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    Sweet, I'd be complaining anyway. That is absolutely terrible.

    I love my counsellor and have been to see her a number of times. While your experience hasn't been great, I would encourage you to see someone else at some stage if you need. I thought I was doing ok, but I actually freaked out after becoming pg - suddenly it was all very real and there was no going back, the early sessions were a bit theoretical, but now I have to live with this decision forever. I am very happy with the decision and DH and I are going really well with our choice, however i know it will have its ups and downs and knowing we have really thought through all the issues does put my mind at rest.

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    Sweet, that is awful about the counselling session, how can they call themselves a counsellor when they treat you like that! Such as shame as like DJ Nette said we were lucky and got someone who was really helpful and I found them a lot more useful than I thought I would.

    MGC - how are you doing?

    AFM - now almost a week into the Lucrin injections and you're right Sweet, they are much worse in your head than in reality! DH had to help me on the first night as although I got the needle in no problem, my hand was shaking so he pushed the plunger down. Team effort! But they have got easier and easier now. Feeling a bit like I have a head cold which I think is one of the side effects, just a bit fuzzy headed and getting headaches which is unlike me. And I think I've had a couple of hot flushes! Could just be me and not the Lucrin I guess.

    Have a quick question for you ladies - what has been your approach regarding alcohol and caffeine? We've been told to limit it to moderate (max 2 alcoholic drinks and 1-2 coffees per day) and I am following this during downreg and planning to cut out altogether when I start stimms and for as far as we get into the cycle. Is that what you've done? DH is also limiting the booze and the coffee and has done since the start of the year - he's had a few times where he's had more than 2 drinks, but normally over a long period of time and hasn't got drunk or anything. Interested to hear what you think, every little helps and all that!

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    Ginios.... I can't really advise too much on alcohol and caffeine, as I gave up all alcohol 8 years ago when I was diagnosed with oesteoporosis (alcohol and fizzy drinks react with bone formation) and I have never drunk coffee since I hate the smell :-)) Once on the 2WW I also cut out chocolate (as I'm addicted to chocolate!!) as it's recommended to have no more than 2 squares of chocolate per day during pregnancy (due to the caffeine content).

    AFM.... just waiting for another BT on Thursday and hopefully start Syranel then.

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    AFM our dr has recommended we do an antagonist cycle next time with the donor sperm. Waiting till my next period in April for us to start. Hopefully we will get some good quality eggs from this next cycle and maybe some embies to freeze 😀

    How is everyone else going?

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    Twosouls.... how is the antagonist cycle different to your previous? I have done two "flare" protocols (injections start on day 2) and this will be my second "down regulation" / "agonist" protocol (Synarel from day 21 the month before). Yes, it would be wonderful to have one to transfer and some to freeze - that's our hope this time too :-))

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    This next cycle I won't take the synerol again and start injections on day 2 of my period. Last time i took the nasal spray for a few weeks then did injections. It was a long down cycle. He said this next one is called antagonist cycle. Sounds like your first one. He said it is a lot quicker only takes 4 weeks to the blood test to check for a BFP.

    He said something I think about using pregnol shots after transfer to hold off my period. Have you heard of that? I'm going to check with the nurses when I go down for my first blood test

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    Hi Ladies,

    Well the waiting is final over. I picked up the meds today and will probably start jabbing the 150 puregon on day 2 on Monday for an antagonist cycle same as last time. I’m really excited to get started again. Nurse was super helpful, and I spoke to her about the counsellor she was angry on my behalf, had the bill wiped and wrote down the details to raise with the Prof. I really like that nurse. I feels she’s been my advocate the whole way through, preparing us for the next steps and putting us at ease. I must remember to write a nice letter to her when we are all done.

    I’ve just had the day off work after a stressful month of time away from home and crazy hours. I had a massage and facial today as a special treat so I’m feeling pretty good right now.

    Ginios During this last wait I’ve gone back to my 2 cups of coffee a day. I’ve also had a few big nights on the alcohol (a big night is probably 5). Now that I’m back in TTC mode I’ll limit it to 1 to 2 alcoholic drinks 1 or 2 times a week and 1 to 2 cups of coffee a day. Not straight by the WHO guidelines, my thoughts were that complete abstinence affects my head space which is more counterproductive.

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    Twosouls... yes, my FS did also mention having a couple of other injections after EPU, I think he said just 2-3 and those, together with the LH in Menopur will keep AF away. He said that during the 2WW I can't then think that I'm pregnant as AF won't turn up before the BT, and also can't do a HPT as there will be stuff from the injections in my urine, but that's OK - might make the 2WW easier not thinking to test or not to test.

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    Hi all.


    I am new to this so forgive me if I don't know all the lingo just really wanted to vent somewhere so sorry for the life story also.


    So our journey began in Jan 09, still remember the dr appointment, he looked at my husband & said 'the problem lies with you!', little were we aware the roller coaster we were about to embark.


    We were then referred to Dr David Knight @ Next Generation. After running tests again on both of us, I seemed fine although my husband still had zero sperm. He completed a TESA in one area of one of the testes & results came back as Sertoli Cell Only Syndrome. Basically he told us there is no hope & our only option was adoption or donor. We went home gutted! On the test Dr Knight completed my husbands testosterone was low but all other hormones LH & FSH were in norm ranges. I never thought to question the testosterone, especially as we were so upset, we were just in a daze throughout the appointment.


    After a few days my husband demanded a 2nd opinion & I found out about Dr Golovsky who specialises in Male Infertility. We went for an appointment & there & then he gave us a 50% chance. But his concerns were with the testosterone level & my husbands weight. Basically he didnt want to see us till my husband lost some weight & had testosterone levels back up to normal. Dr Golovsky referred us to Dr Smith at Westmead (Fertility & Endrocronology) . My husband completed an MRI which showed a pea sized growth on his piturity gland (which we learnt could be the reason for my husbands weight also). A Chromosone test was also completed which came back all normal. Dr Smith started my husband on Pregnyl for 6 months to see if any sperm would return to the ejaculate, then after no success he started my husband on purgeon as well. The idea was that if sperm didn't return to the ejaculate then the injections would enhance whatever sperm (if any) Were hiding in the testes. Both Golovsky & Smith mentioned that SCOS can vary throughout the testes & basically one needle in one section of one testicle cannot truly determine SCOS. We were also advised that the injections my husband were on can take up to 2-3 years.


    fast forward 3 years, still no sperm in ejaculate In completing my final blood tests before we commence ICSI it was now determined I have low AMH! My husband has lost some weight & has been doing some weight training to help his testosterone levels. Basically I am not sure if it is that or the injections but his testosterone is back up to normal ranges.


    My husband has a micro booked for 16th May with IVFA. I am about to start my drugs in the next week or so, having low AMH nows gives me another thing to worry about, but I have started acupuncture so fingers crossed that helps. So my egg collection will be the same day as hubbies micro in the chance they find sperm but I will be a patient with Westmead Fertility.


    i am not holding too much hope on finding anything with micro, it seems Golovsky gives everyone a 50% chance so I am not holding hope on that. But if we find it is a bonus.


    in regards to donor, we have a couple of donors lined up. thankfully my husband has 2 brothers who have offered to donate! But Smith has advised not to worry about donor yet until we complete the micro.


    The roller coaster keeps going.....

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    Hi Smik

    Welcome to the group sorry you have to be in this situation as well. You will find alot of support on here from the girls.

    You are in good hands with Dr Golovsky. My DH had a micro done in Feb with him and he was excellent. He only gave us a 20% chance of finding anything and unfortunalty he didn't So we are moving on with donor sperm and start our next cycle in May.

    Can I ask how old you are? Im 30 and also have a low AMH for my age,mine is sitting at 8. On our first cycle which we had to coincide with the micro I had 8 eggs collected which 6 were viable that they froze. I was quite happy with that number considering the AMH level. Hopefully I get some good quality ones for the next round

    If you have a donor lined up just in case thats excellent. We had thought of using my DH's brother but after thinking about it and him not openely offering we decided to go with annon donor. I thought if his not going to offer than he must not want to do it so we didn't want to bother asking.

    One thing I have learned is if you do need a donor and want to use a known donor and go through a clinic it is a bit of a process. At IVFA you all need counselling and then the sperm is quarantined for 6 months then some more counselling before you can use it.

    This is a roller coaster but I know we will all get our babies in the end


 

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