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    Default Help me educate an ignorant GP

    Okay, so I took DD to the GP today for her 4 month vaccinations. Our usual doctor (who is wonderful) wasn't available so we had to see someone else. She started off by telling me how healthy and happy my DD looked, then asked me if I had started her on solids yet.

    I answered that I hadn't yet and was waiting until she was 6 months as is the recommendation of WHO, ABA, AMA etc, etc. She looked at me like I was an idiot and told me that she had read 'a study' stating that solids were to start at 4 months or baby risks malnutrition (I asked for info on this study and she just changed the subject). I stated again that the recommendation was for exclusive breastfeeding until 6 months of age. Her answer was that 'exclusive breastfeeding' simply meant that I didn't need to introduce formula until 6 months but still needed to be giving rice cereal as it contained important things that my breastmilk was lacking such as carbohydrates and folate. WTF???

    Aaargh, so anyway this went back and forth for a while until she finally said I could go against her advice if I wanted to but I wasn't doing the best for my baby. Needless to say, I left shaking mad. I got a complaint form from the receptionist and fully intend to follow this up. If I hadn't known better I would have been terrified and running out to get rice cereal for my poor malnourished baby Is it any wonder that the rate of exclusive breastfeeding until 6 months are so low in this country.

    So, I am researching as much as I can to send off with my complaint and hopefully prevent her from giving such terrible advice in the future. Anyone know of any good studies or info I can add to my list? Thanks

    ETA: especially interested in anything that discusses folate content in breastmilk (and babies requirement for folate) as according to her there is none...
    Last edited by minties; 12-08-2010 at 14:53.
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    I cant help, but good on you for following it up! Solids are started way too early sometimes! A gp should know basic information.
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    What a #)(UI) idiot. I would ring the ABA for advice, maybe they have an info pamphlet. Honestly what a stupid fool. Wtf carbs and folate... IDIOT!!!

    eta can't remember off hand re folate but I know it's one of the nutrients that breastmilk can still supply a huge percentage of daily needs for even at AGE 2 YEARS OLD let alone 6 mths, the silly cow.

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    Just did a quick google search ( i know i had a list of all the ingrediants they've found in Breastmilk so far - but i'm not sure where i misplaced it). -well apparently jabberjaw found it

    anyway.
    this site is all about folate
    and basically says that a lactating woman should be consuming 600(μg/day) of folate, where as an infant 1-3 should be consuming 150(μg/day) [note its a child 1-3, that means that babies get it from breastmilk and we don't need to give them any more than that-at least that's what i'm getting from the site]

    and then a factsheet that i think i'm maybe allowed to link to?
    • Premature babies who were breastfed for the first 4-5 weeks had an average of 8.3 points higher on IQ tests 7.5 years later. (From The Baby Book by William and Martha Sears. See the books page.)
    • There are at least 400 nutrients in breastmilk that are not found in formula.
    • The nutrients in breastmilk are specifically designed for the human infant and therefore are more easily absorbed by the baby's system. For example, between 50-75% of the iron in breastmilk is absorbed whereas only about 4% of the iron in formula is. Since less nutrients are absorbed from formula, the nutrients are passed through your baby's digestive system as waste (explaining why the stools of formula fed babies smell while those of breastfed babies do not) and may over-tax the waste-disposal system of formula-fed babies. The stools of breastfeed babies are non-offensive because there is less waste from breastmilk.
    • Breastmilk composition changes according to the time of day, and changes as your baby grows, giving him exactly what he needs.
    • Each drop of breastmilk contains white blood cells and immunoglobins which help reinforce the baby's immature immune system.
    • Colostrum contains an antibody (IgA) only available to the baby by breastmilk (it is not passed through the placenta) which protects the baby from germs which enter the baby from the throat, lungs, and intestines. These germs are only a problem after delivery and therefore the mother provides this for the infant at its time of need (delivery) through colostrum. These antibodies are most plentiful a few hours after birth so it is important to feed the baby during this time. (From The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding by La Leche League)
    • Mother can make antibodies on demand for germs encountered by baby. If a baby is infected by a germ for which an antibody is not present in the mother, the germ is passed from the baby to the mother by sucking at the breast. The breast in turn produces an antibody for the germ and passes it back to the baby. (From The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding by La Leche League)
    • Body fat of a breastfed infant is different from that of a formula fed infant and specifically designed for the baby. The fat in breastmilk contains high levels of cholesterol which not only help the brain and nervous system develop but may protect the grown adult from having high cholesterol levels.
    • Long term benefits include increased protect
    • Breastfed babies have fewer ear infections, allergies, diarrhea, bacterial meningtis, and lower risk of SIDS. It may also protect against diabetes and childhood lymphoma.
    • Studies have shown breastfed babies have better oral development and fewer dental problems.
    • Breastmilk contains sleep-inducing proteins to relax your baby. Also the act of baby sucking releases hormomes in the mother which relax her.
    • Breastmilk contains a large amount of water so breastfed babies normally do not need any additional juices or water.
    • Women who breastfeed reduce their risk of ovarian cancer, osteoporosis, and early breast cancer.
    and contact the ABA - they may have extra resources to make sure that they inundate the doctor with tons and tons of pamphlets about why she's a quack

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    what a load of garbage!
    I have never heard that b4, in fact i have heard the opposite non-stop.
    Some doc's are incredible, hence why I only go if absolutely neccessary.

    Good luck with you complaint xxx
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    Jeepers that's scary. How many people out there are misinformed because of GP's? Eek!

    I agree to contact the ABA.

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    BREASTMILK

    Water
    Carbohydrates (energy source)
    Lactose
    Oligosaccharides (see below)
    Carboxylic acid
    Alpha hydroxy acid
    Lactic acid
    Proteins (building muscles and bones)
    Whey protein
    Alpha-lactalbumin
    HAMLET (Human Alpha-lactalbumin Made Lethal to Tumour cells)
    Lactoferrin
    Many antimicrobial factors (see below)
    Casein
    Serum albumin
    Non-protein nitrogens
    Creatine
    Creatinine
    Urea
    Uric acid
    Peptides (see below)
    Amino Acids (the building blocks of proteins)
    Alanine
    Arginine
    Aspartate
    Clycine
    Cystine
    Glutamate
    Histidine
    Isoleucine
    Leucine
    Lycine
    Methionine
    Phenylalanine
    Proline
    Serine
    Taurine
    Theronine
    Tryptophan
    Tyrosine
    Valine
    Carnitine (amino acid compound necessary to make use of fatty acids as an energy source)
    Nucleotides (chemical compounds that are the structural units of RNA and DNA)
    5’-Adenosine monophosphate (5”-AMP)
    3’:5’-Cyclic adenosine monophosphate (3’:5’-cyclic AMP)
    5’-Cytidine monophosphate (5’-CMP)
    Cytidine diphosphate choline (CDP choline)
    Guanosine diphosphate (UDP)
    Guanosine diphosphate - mannose
    3’- Uridine monophosphate (3’-UMP)
    5’-Uridine monophosphate (5’-UMP)
    Uridine diphosphate (UDP)
    Uridine diphosphate hexose (UDPH)
    Uridine diphosphate-N-acetyl-hexosamine (UDPAH)
    Uridine diphosphoglucuronic acid (UDPGA)
    Several more novel nucleotides of the UDP type
    Fats
    Triglycerides
    Long-chain polyunsaturated fatty acids
    Docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) (important for brain development)
    Arachidonic acid (AHA) (important for brain development)
    Linoleic acid
    Alpha-linolenic acid (ALA)
    Eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA)
    Conjugated linoleic acid (Rumenic acid)
    Free Fatty Acids
    Monounsaturated fatty acids
    Oleic acid
    Palmitoleic acid
    Heptadecenoic acid
    Saturated fatty acids
    Stearic
    Palmitic acid
    Lauric acid
    Myristic acid
    Phospholipids
    Phosphatidylcholine
    Phosphatidylethanolamine
    Phosphatidylinositol
    Lysophosphatidylcholine
    Lysophosphatidylethanolamine
    Plasmalogens
    Sphingolipids
    Sphingomyelin
    Gangliosides
    GM1
    GM2
    GM3
    Glucosylceramide
    Glycosphingolipids
    Galactosylceramide
    Lactosylceramide
    Globotriaosylceramide (GB3)
    Globoside (GB4)
    Sterols
    Squalene
    Lanosterol
    Dimethylsterol
    Methosterol
    Lathosterol
    Desmosterol
    Triacylglycerol
    Cholesterol
    7-dehydrocholesterol
    Stigma-and campesterol
    7-ketocholesterol
    Sitosterol
    β-lathosterol
    Vitamin D metabolites
    Steroid hormones
    Vitamins
    Vitamin A
    Beta carotene
    Vitamin B6
    Vitamin B8 (Inositol)
    Vitamin B12
    Vitamin C
    Vitamin D
    Vitamin E
    a-Tocopherol
    Vitamin K
    Thiamine
    Riboflavin
    Niacin
    Folic acid
    Pantothenic acid
    Biotin
    Minerals
    Calcium
    Sodium
    Potassium
    Iron
    Zinc
    Chloride
    Phosphorus
    Magnesium
    Copper
    Manganese
    Iodine
    Selenium
    Choline
    Sulpher
    Chromium
    Cobalt
    Fluorine
    Nickel
    Metal
    Molybdenum (essential element in many enzymes)
    Growth Factors (aid in the maturation of the intestinal lining)
    Cytokines
    interleukin-1β (IL-1β)
    IL-2
    IL-4
    IL-6
    IL-8
    IL-10
    Granulocyte-colony stimulating factor (G-CSF)
    Macrophage-colony stimulating factor (M-CSF)
    Platelet derived growth factors (PDGF)
    Vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF)
    Hepatocyte growth factor -α (HGF-α)
    HGF-β
    Tumor necrosis factor-α
    Interferon-γ
    Epithelial growth factor (EGF)
    Transforming growth factor-α (TGF-α)
    TGF β1
    TGF-β2
    Insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I) (also known as somatomedin C)
    Insulin-like growth factor- II
    Nerve growth factor (NGF)
    Erythropoietin
    Peptides (combinations of amino acids)
    HMGF I (Human growth factor)
    HMGF II
    HMGF III
    Cholecystokinin (CCK)
    β-endorphins
    Parathyroid hormone (PTH)
    Parathyroid hormone-related peptide (PTHrP)
    β-defensin-1
    Calcitonin
    Gastrin
    Motilin
    Bombesin (gastric releasing peptide, also known as neuromedin B)
    Neurotensin
    Somatostatin
    Hormones (chemical messengers that carry signals from one cell, or group of cells, to another via the blood)
    Cortisol
    Triiodothyronine (T3)
    Thyroxine (T4)
    Thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH) (also known as thyrotropin)
    Thyroid releasing hormone (TRH)
    Prolactin
    Oxytocin
    Insulin
    Corticosterone
    Thrombopoietin
    Gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH)
    GRH
    Leptin (aids in regulation of food intake)
    Ghrelin (aids in regulation of food intake)
    Adiponectin
    Feedback inhibitor of lactation (FIL)
    Eicosanoids
    Prostaglandins (enzymatically derived from fatty acids)
    PG-E1
    PG-E2
    PG-F2
    Leukotrienes
    Thromboxanes
    Prostacyclins
    Enzymes (catalysts that support chemical reactions in the body)
    Amylase
    Arysulfatase
    Catalase
    Histaminase
    Lipase
    Lysozyme
    PAF-acetylhydrolase
    Phosphatase
    Xanthine oxidase
    Antiproteases (thought to bind themselves to macromolecules such as enzymes and as a result prevent allergic and anaphylactic reactions)
    a-1-antitrypsin
    a-1-antichymotrypsin
    Antimicrobial factors (are used by the immune system to identify and neutralize foreign objects, such as bacteria and viruses.
    Leukocytes (white blood cells)
    Phagocytes
    Basophils
    Neutrophils
    Eoisinophils
    Macrophages
    Lymphocytes
    B lymphocytes (also known as B cells)
    T lymphocytes (also known as C cells)
    sIgA (Secretory immunoglobulin A) (the most important antiinfective factor)
    IgA2
    IgG
    IgD
    IgM
    IgE
    Complement C1
    Complement C2
    Complement C3
    Complement C4
    Complement C5
    Complement C6
    Complement C7
    Complement C8
    Complement C9
    Glycoproteins
    Mucins (attaches to bacteria and viruses to prevent them from clinging to mucousal tissues)
    Lactadherin
    Alpha-lactoglobulin
    Alpha-2 macroglobulin
    Lewis antigens
    Ribonuclease
    Haemagglutinin inhibitors
    Bifidus Factor (increases growth of Lactobacillus bifidus - which is a good bacteria)
    Lactoferrin (binds to iron which prevents harmful bacteria from using the iron to grow)
    Lactoperoxidase
    B12 binding protein (deprives microorganisms of vitamin B12)
    Fibronectin (makes phagocytes more aggressive, minimizes inflammation, and repairs damage caused by inflammation)
    Oligosaccharides (more than 200 different kinds!)
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    Thanks everyone for your support!

    JabberJaw - what a beautiful list - It made me smile to read through it. Breastmilk is awesome
    Can you point me in the direction of where the info came from?

    ETA - you beat me to it haha
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    Got it here
    DD1 14, DD2 8, DS 7, DS2 (Our Angel), DD3 3

    Breast feeding, co sleeping, babywearing,BLW, TT, vaxxer

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    Well done for putting in a complaint. I dread to think how many breastfeeding relationships have ended due to such poor information from health professionals. It seems the well informed ones are few and far between these days. I will interested in the response you get.


 

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