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    Ree - I might do the list up and take it, and decide when we get there whether or not to give it to them.

    Do you take the puregon out of the fridge a little while before you inject? I took mine out at least 15 mins beforehand. A couple of times I forgot, so I got hubby to hold the pen in his hand for a couple of mins to take the chill out while I washed my hands/did the sterilisation swab thingy. Where do you keep your needles? I never put mine in the fridge because I think if they were cold they would sting a bit too! I remember once it was really painful and I had to walk into the laundry (so hubby couldn't see- he gets upset when it hurts me!) and bend down and and push really hard on the spot to stop it stinging, and I don't know if it was because I forgot to take the pen out early enough, or I hit a nerve maybe?!?

    Either way, it was only once it felt like that, and I injected for about 20 days!

    Hope everyone is going well!!!

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    I agree with the whole age & how many to transfer thing. It shouldn't matter how old we are as long as you are fully aware of ALL the things that could go wrong. The way I see it is if they think it's so bad then why do they let over 30's transfer 2 at a time the preg risks for older ppl is higher just coz of age, so having twins would be even more risky. The choice shouldn't be made by the clinic unless there's a medical reason to not have twins. the choice should be ours no matter what your age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopefully View Post

    I agree with the whole age & how many to transfer thing. It shouldn't matter how old we are as long as you are fully aware of ALL the things that could go wrong. The way I see it is if they think it's so bad then why do they let over 30's transfer 2 at a time the preg risks for older ppl is higher just coz of age, so having twins would be even more risky. The choice shouldn't be made by the clinic unless there's a medical reason to not have twins. the choice should be ours no matter what your age.
    There is actually no difference in age and risk of having twins. I have had this discussion with Dr Gayer. There are definitely risks in carrying twins, but no worse if you're older.

    I would suggest those who don't like what the clinic suggests to ring the FS.

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    I think what hopefully might of meant is that a woman whom is older, *generallly* may have a high risk pregnancy, add a multiple pregnancy to that and the risk is increased further.

    Most of the people with this issue have already spoken to their FS about it and are using BH as a place to discuss it further and maybe vent and get support from others -which is what BH is all about.

    Well I have spoken to my FS and use bubhub for those reasons anyway.

    Hope everyone is doing well!

    I am sniffing and jabbing at the moment with not a single side affect (touch wood). Hopefully EPU next monday

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    Default From Brisbane considering WFC

    Hello all,
    I'm in Brisbane and currently seeing an FS at the Wesley Monash IVF. DH and I are both overseas visitors so not covered by Medicare. Of the IVF costs, our private health insurance will only cover hospital accommodation costs. Therefore IVF is going to be very costly for us as we will be out of pocket by $11000 (or more) (at the Wesley). We are considering the WFC for costs. I’d appreciate information from the others who’ve travelled interstate to get to WFC on how many days we’ll be required to stay in Sydney and are there any reasonable accommodation near the hospital. I’d also be grateful if you could share how much you paid in total (including airfare, accommodation, food, IVF costs etc.)

    Petalsinthewind thanks again for responding to my PM.

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRJB View Post
    I think what hopefully might of meant is that a woman whom is older, *generallly* may have a high risk pregnancy, add a multiple pregnancy to that and the risk is increased further.

    Most of the people with this issue have already spoken to their FS about it and are using BH as a place to discuss it further and maybe vent and get support from others -which is what BH is all about.

    Well I have spoken to my FS and use bubhub for those reasons anyway.

    Hope everyone is doing well!

    I am sniffing and jabbing at the moment with not a single side affect (touch wood). Hopefully EPU next monday
    Sorry, to clarify, I wasn't suggesting for a moment peeps don't use BH for sharing / support -- I use BH and other forums and have found the support / cyberfriendship etc to be so invaluable, and massively informative. The fact that there's a WFC thread here is wonderful.

    What I meant was, sometimes if the clinic is insistent on something and you feel you have nowhere else to go to push your case, try to talk to your FS - easier said than done I know with some of them so busy- and then go back to the clinic. I have found this process one of learning on the run; the nurses and staff are wonderful, but you don't necessarily get 'extra' or advice info unless you ask - on lots of different things from protocol through to next steps. One example I would give of that is -- if you have a stim cycle and are a low responder (ie chance of having no frozen embies), make your next appt with the FS now ! You can always cancel but because they are so hard to get into, if you have an appt in advance you have that peace of mind of being able to get straight back into it without waiting to see the doc again.

    On the issue of putting 2 eggs back, I am lucky in one sense in that they would not hesitate for an 'oldie' like me but I was nervous about it. Had a long chat with Dr G about it because I was concerned about the perceived risk of being over 40 and having twins and she showed me research that proved that older women carrying twins is no more risky than carrying one. So yes, while there's risks for older women, it doesn't increase with twins. The same woman would have the same risks carrying twins at 30 as at 40.

    In addition, overall they want to avoid the risks associated with multiple births, and the chances of older women having multiple births either naturally or through IVF is much lower.

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    Just a quick update. I had to call the clinic today for some stuff relating to my FET, and I checked a THIRD time that I am able to transfer two, and the lovely nurse was saying that they never 'recommend' putting 2 back, and they'd strongly advise us of the risks, but ultimately the decision is ours.

    Interestingly, she did say that clinics all over Australia are ceasing recommending 2 embryo transfers, as there is not enough research to say that it is safe (I was in a change room at the time, so my concentration levels were low - she did elaborate, but I can't remember the finer detail).

    As it stands, if we are blessed enough with 2 viable embies, they will both be going back. After all this though, I am convinced that our emby/s will choose us when they are ready. We may not have any survive the thaw, so with that in mind, we would be absolutely over the moon with one viable emby, and one successful pregnancy.

    So onwards to the FET for us! First bloods on Friday morning!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRJB View Post
    I think what hopefully might of meant is that a woman whom is older, *generallly* may have a high risk pregnancy, add a multiple pregnancy to that and the risk is increased further.

    Most of the people with this issue have already spoken to their FS about it and are using BH as a place to discuss it further and maybe vent and get support from others -which is what BH is all about.

    Well I have spoken to my FS and use bubhub for those reasons anyway.

    Hope everyone is doing well!

    I am sniffing and jabbing at the moment with not a single side affect (touch wood). Hopefully EPU next monday
    yes that's what I was trying to say. sorry if i offended anyone i wasn't being nasty & i hope all of us get our miracle babies

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    Well bloods started today no sign of ovulation so back again on thursday to check again. I got to speak to the scientist about our options with the FET she is so great I advise to chat with her if anyone needs more info or help with a choice.
    Kate S- I see we're at the same stage & I jst wanted to wish you luck

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    Hi Ladies,

    Does anyone know what the normal range for E2 is supposed to be for IVF?

    I had my BT yesterday and my E2 is 5000, which is apparently high. We're heading down for an U/S in the morning to see what's going on in there. I'm very worried they're going to cancel the cycle.

    Kate - very glad you got an answer from the nurse. Stand firm and be strong!


 

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