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    Quote Originally Posted by Thistime View Post
    Max Factor, Aveeno, Revlon, Covergirl, Maybelline - they all test on animals.
    You might want to extend on that list.

    Many health and beauty companies test on animals so that they can sell their products in China.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebirdgirl View Post
    Microsoft. Stuck using their email but hate their operating system and what Bill Gates does with his money.
    I thought they do a lot of charities...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HLE View Post
    I thought they do a lot of charities...

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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...Gods-work.html

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    QUOTE=redlipsandpearls;7836638]What about Bill Gates' spending do you hate?[/QUOTE]

    Well firstly I just hate their product because I've had nothing but trouble with it. What I read what in the media so who knows if it's factual, I just added it to my list of why I don't like Microsoft. It's to do with vaccination which might be too controversial. Im a conscientious objector and I'm not here to debate beliefs.
    what I read was he rather vaccinate starving children than feed them. I've read that vaccinating malnourished kids is of no benefit.
    Again, all read online and not in depth research so I'm happy to stand corrected if not true.
    Wont change the fact I think his products are garbage and not user friendly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redlipsandpearls View Post
    That's why I admire him so much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebirdgirl View Post

    Well firstly I just hate their product because I've had nothing but trouble with it. What I read what in the media so who knows if it's factual, I just added it to my list of why I don't like Microsoft. It's to do with vaccination which might be too controversial. Im a conscientious objector and I'm not here to debate beliefs.
    what I read was he rather vaccinate starving children than feed them. I've read that vaccinating malnourished kids is of no benefit.
    Again, all read online and not in depth research so I'm happy to stand corrected if not true.
    Wont change the fact I think his products are garbage and not user friendly.
    He actually helps countries create sustainable crops for food supply.

    This is an interesting article that gives a good summary to refute some of the most common claims:

    http://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/12/16/...illion-people/

    Another thing, a common objection to vaccines is on the basis that our children are healthy so these diseases aren't life threatening or that these diseases are on a natural decline when, in fact, it's the opposite in many third world countries. Vaccines are much more necessary in those places due to many malnourished and poverty stricken children being more susceptible to contracting a vpd because of their less than optimum health and unsanitary water & living conditions as well as the the lack of adequate healthcare to combat these vpds.

    I'm not intending to spark a debate, just pointing out some things, so I hope you don't take it the wrong way

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    Yep, I was just going to add that he's put a lot of money towards nutrition programs and agricultural development in third world countries, with a focus on health and nutrition for women during pregnancy and young children.

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    Ok that's good.
    I still won't buy Microsoft ever again. And we've made a choice on vaccines. Thanks for not calling a lynch mob, as so often happens on here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebirdgirl View Post
    Ok that's good.
    I still won't buy Microsoft ever again. And we've made a choice on vaccines. Thanks for not calling a lynch mob, as so often happens on here!
    No lynch mob here
    Surely though, you could understand that many of the reasons for not vaccinating here are simply not valid in third world countries?
    For example:
    •They have limited, if any, access to clean water, medical treatment, a nutrient rich wholesome diet
    •Their homes and surroundings are nowhere near as sanitary as ours
    •Their vpd to vaccine injury/reaction ratio would be much higher than ours

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    I boycott pets paradise and any pet stores that sell live animals other than fish.

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