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    Hello all

    My partner and i have been TTC for over 5 years now. My partner has azoospermia and we are currently awaiting Dr Golovsky to tee up a date with my specialist to start IVF and sperm retrieval.

    We were under a different specialist and had a break for awhile after Hubbie had a PESA which found no sperm in the testies. Besides lowish FSH levels for Hubbie (5.7) Dr Golvosky is ready to go ahead with surgery as he feels that is the best option.

    I have been pregnant before and have an 8 year old daughter. This child is obviously not my hubbies! Not looking forwarded to starting IVF as the thought of all these injections, blood test and all the other things is very scary to thing about

    I am with IVF Australia at St George private hospital and have seen Prof Chapman and Dr Alex. Feeling positive even though Hubbie is not! would love to know anyone else that has used Dr Golovsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missjadels View Post
    Hello all

    My partner and i have been TTC for over 5 years now. My partner has azoospermia and we are currently awaiting Dr Golovsky to tee up a date with my specialist to start IVF and sperm retrieval.

    We were under a different specialist and had a break for awhile after Hubbie had a PESA which found no sperm in the testies. Besides lowish FSH levels for Hubbie (5.7) Dr Golvosky is ready to go ahead with surgery as he feels that is the best option.

    I have been pregnant before and have an 8 year old daughter. This child is obviously not my hubbies! Not looking forwarded to starting IVF as the thought of all these injections, blood test and all the other things is very scary to thing about

    I am with IVF Australia at St George private hospital and have seen Prof Chapman and Dr Alex. Feeling positive even though Hubbie is not! would love to know anyone else that has used Dr Golovsky
    Haven't used that doc, but I hope he can help you!

    Starting IVF is definitely a scary prospect. Just remember that the needles get less scary as you go on, and it really helped me to visualize a baby in my arms to get through each injection.

    I think it's important to keep in mind your relationship with your DH and make it a priority while you're going through a cycle. It's very easy to get too focused on what you are trying to achieve and lose sight of the person you're going through this with.

    I was surprised that I felt some resentment towards my DH about everything I had to go through to have a chance at getting pregnant when I'm not the one with fertility issues. That didn't last long though when I realized how bad he was feeling about not being able to give me a baby. Definitely make an effort to keep the lines of communication open between you, and take advantage of the counselling services offered by your clinic if you need to talk about things.


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    Bbhope.... I actually didn't find out about Dr S until after I'd already started the ball rolling with Dr M. I've been with IVFA for about 14 months, and even though I'd brought up NKC and immune issues a number of times with Prof I at IVFA he was always against it, and never mentioned Dr S, so I presumed that IVFA couldn't help me, hence why I had to look elsewhere. Only in my last cycle did he change his tune and admit that immune issues should be tackled.

    Miss Jadels.. welcome, unfortunately!! As the others already know my DH has non-obstructive azoospermia, and had the mTESE operation with Dr G. Dr G is absolutely awesome, and was as devastated as us when he only found one sperm. The main thing that Dr G uses for probability of success is Inhibin level - can I ask what your DH's is? There's a couple of separate threads where us with azoospermia are on - probably would be worth reading back on some of them.

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    @bertie: I will have a follow up with my FS on Friday. I have a lot of questions to ask. I really still can't get around my head why a good embryo just quit. I recalled the nurse who did my ultrasound scan before the EPU saying that my lining looked good. Even the FS commented it before putting the embryo back. I hope she is willing to let me test a bunch of stuff including NK cells with Dr. S. I hope she understands that we only have one last embryo to spare for this. I am trying to write down a list of basic blood tests to request. Do you happen to have a lis to share?

    @ Arlais: you just spoke my mind. It did slip through my mind about caring for hubby feeling numerous times (before the IVF). I thought my marriage might not survive after his surgery -- he is against donor. It has since brought us even closer together. We have been through a lot together and we share the up and down, no one else can replace that. He is absolutely sad about not being able to give me a child. In any case, I have not come to peace about the donor either (i was all OK with it but now reality finally sets in which makes it hard to accept). The wound is still fresh and we need time to heal......
    @Missjadels : sorry to join the unfortunate club. As Bertie said, there is a separated azoospermia thread. You can get a lot of info there. As you can read my signature, we went on the journey to sydney recently, did the mTESE with Dr. G and together with the IVF cycle. The mTESE was a success in the end despite Dr. G only found 1 abnormal sperm. Unfortunately, I had an early pregnancy miscarriage not so long ago. We are pretty much back to square one. In any case, if you don't mind me asking. What is the cause of your DH azoo? Genetic or unknown? Dr. G likes inhibin B level for the prediction.

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    Bbhope... good luck with getting your FS to do extra BTs on you. The only one I could get mine to agree doing was the ANA (anti nuclear antibodies). Other BTs that Dr M wrote for me (and probably Dr S), but neither my FS nor my GP would do were: Anti-DNA (autoimmune serology), IgG, IgA and IgM (serum immunoglobulins), Lupus (anticoalgulant screen), TAA (thyroid auto-antibodies), and cell surface markers - lymphocyte subsets.

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    Bertie: i am surprised that your GP doesnt even let u do it. It is going to be a long hard road for people who live on this side of the country. I was reading a thread. It seems like no FS here in Perth believes in auto immu problem. I hope the info is outdated because it sounded like Dr S doesn't do phone consult and all tests have to be done in sydney. Dr M seems to be able to do phone consult and then order basic tests to perform in the perth lab. If extensive testing is needed, then here it goes to syd again. I am hoping nothing wrong with me of course and it is just one off bad luck. I dont have a preference of who to see but just think having another ivfa doctor might convince my FS to go with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbhope View Post
    Bertie: i am surprised that your GP doesnt even let u do it. It is going to be a long hard road for people who live on this side of the country. I was reading a thread. It seems like no FS here in Perth believes in auto immu problem. I hope the info is outdated because it sounded like Dr S doesn't do phone consult and all tests have to be done in sydney. Dr M seems to be able to do phone consult and then order basic tests to perform in the perth lab. If extensive testing is needed, then here it goes to syd again. I am hoping nothing wrong with me of course and it is just one off bad luck. I dont have a preference of who to see but just think having another ivfa doctor might convince my FS to go with it.
    bb my FS at Pivet tested for antinuclear antibodies as part of a standard lot of tests during my assessment cycle. I didn't say anything or have any factors which might have led her to do this, but I'm so glad she did! As soon as I started the stim cycle she prescribed prednisone, aspirin after transfer, then clexane on bfp.

    I actually had no idea about this whole world of immune issues until I started researching the drugs I'd been prescribed. It was then my Ob who requested further tests to find out why I had high ANA, and so discovered I have PGM (she's also a FS).

    I don't know if my FS would have tried anything different if this cycle hadn't been successful, but there is obviously some awareness of immune issues impacting pregnancy in the Perth IVF community. I think I just got incredibly lucky to be treated by someone effectively from the outset.


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    Bbhope... actually I am finding that my GP is very conservative / old fashioned and has a few times recently been very hesitant with things I've said. I've been with her for about 15 years, but am seriously starting to consider maybe finding someone a little more progressive.

    I had the "talk" with my sister about her donating her egg and it went quite well - mind you we both ended up crying on our ends of the phone!!! She's still very happy to donate her eggs, and the boyfriend said he'll support whatever she decides (glad he went with that!!) DH is still a little reserved and likes the SA option, but I think we will at least get the ball rolling with FS and counselling appointments. It's hard to predict on any given day what's going to happen or not happen - need to take each day as it comes.

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    Arlais: you r very lucky. The FS at pivet was only interested in DH issue and dismissed any test on me. I pushed her to let me do the AMH. As u already knew, in the end, we left with nothing. She wanted us to go on the limbo land for 2 yrs until we have a donor backup to do the Tese. Yet, gave us zero chance for it. Glad that we didnt go with it. she retired this year. I think the thread that i read might be a bit outdated. I hope that the climate has changed now. Back in 2012 (the thread), Iolanda (as many of you might have heard her name in perth) advocated the issue but nobody seems to be interested in this immu issue. Who did u see at pivet?

    Bertie: i had tested the water of many GPs and found one who is "easy going". No fuss even when i asked for referral on tests for DH.

    I left work a bit early and in tears again. I just feel like this is all so hard. DH might be right that we need to set a cut off point and move on in our life at some points. I dont know if i can be childless. This is mental torture and it was like that last year and the year has just started.

    Well, FX that my FS is willing to work with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbhope View Post
    Arlais: you r very lucky. The FS at pivet was only interested in DH issue and dismissed any test on me. I pushed her to let me do the AMH. As u already knew, in the end, we left with nothing. She wanted us to go on the limbo land for 2 yrs until we have a donor backup to do the Tese. Yet, gave us zero chance for it. Glad that we didnt go with it. she retired this year. I think the thread that i read might be a bit outdated. I hope that the climate has changed now. Back in 2012 (the thread), Iolanda (as many of you might have heard her name in perth) advocated the issue but nobody seems to be interested in this immu issue. Who did u see at pivet?

    Bertie: i had tested the water of many GPs and found one who is "easy going". No fuss even when i asked for referral on tests for DH.

    I left work a bit early and in tears again. I just feel like this is all so hard. DH might be right that we need to set a cut off point and move on in our life at some points. I dont know if i can be childless. This is mental torture and it was like that last year and the year has just started.

    Well, FX that my FS is willing to work with me.
    From what I've heard there are some pretty shocking FS's at Pivet We saw Dr Borude. Sometimes I didn't feel like I got much out of our consultations along the way, we only saw her 3 times - once at the very start, then at the end of the assessment cycle and after we got our bfp. Different docs did the EPU & transfer. So patient contact didn't seem like a high priority, but she obviously knew what she was doing in ordering tests and effective treatment.

    I really hope things work out for you, I'm sorry that you're having to deal with such mental and physical pressures. All I can say is please be kind to yourself x


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