Choice

[CocktailBubba]

Ok so I copied this post from a thread that was closed shortly after i posted this which kinda bummed me as i couldn't see how anyone was attacking another in the thread.. well at least towards the end of it anyway.

It seems that this whole choice speil comes into circing quite a bit. i think i could safely say that those who do circ are in the minority in this country and those who vaxx are probably most likely part of the mojarity yet they are both things that could be argued side by side as they can both be as damaging as one another and some parents circ as a preventative measure and some vaxx for exactly the same reason. so why is circing so forwned upon compared?

Please don't post if you are only going to chop parts of my post down to reply to the parts that could support your personal view easier.
I'd like to discuss mt whole post if possible.

If a childs choice to being circ'd is what is being argued then yes this opens the door for many things that babies also do not get a choice in.

Do any of u vax ur babies? Tsk tsk if u do- what if they didn't want to be vaxxed- just like circing them it can not be reversed. What if a child had a severe reaction to being vaxxed and this left them with permanant physical or mental didability?? What if what if what if...

What kind of choice is it of it must be based on someone elses personal opinion and who is mighty enough to say 'my opinion is more valid than yours'

Please lets not get this thread closed.

[WorkingClassMum]

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[Lillynix]

Well, i'm anti-circ (well, anti-RIC anyway) and actually I don't vaccinate my children but for the sake of your question, let's pretend I do vaxx.

To me, RIC is making a permanent modification, to a child's body when said child gets NO input on what is happening, permanently, to his own body and it comes with very little valid medical reasons.

To me, Vaxx is not a permanent modification to a child's body. You are not altering their appearance nor or you taking away something functional. Instead you are vaccinating them to potentially reduce the risks of contracting certain diseases, which does have valid medical reasons.

They are, in my opinion, totally incomparable.

[jade24]

I am anti circ (obviously I support it when there is a medical need) and pro vaxx.

I didn't circumcise my sons because I, personally, saw no need to cut off part of their body that was in perfect working order and I did not want to put them through, what I deemed, was unnecessary pain.

I vaxx my children because I am protecting them against harmful illness which could leave them very ill, disabled or even deceased.

Sorry, but I don't find the two comparable in any way.

[peanutbutter&jelly]

Well, i'm anti-circ (well, anti-RIC anyway) and actually I don't vaccinate my children but for the sake of your question, let's pretend I do vaxx.

To me, RIC is making a permanent modification, to a child's body when said child gets NO input on what is happening, permanently, to his own body and it comes with very little valid medical reasons.

To me, Vaxx is not a permanent modification to a child's body. You are not altering their appearance nor or you taking away something functional. Instead you are vaccinating them to potentially reduce the risks of contracting certain diseases, which does have valid medical reasons.

They are, in my opinion, totally incomparable.

Sorry to do it again DragonFly, you've said a few things lately that are so similar to my views

[Fellow Traveler]

I know we've all discussed this before; are there still those who don't see the significant difference between vaccination and circumcision?

[CocktailBubba]

I know we've all discussed this before; are there still those who don't see the significant difference between vaccination and circumcision?

If you have any differences or comparisents to point out, please do- your remark is not helpful.

[CocktailBubba]

I don't know how to quote more than 1 post at a time so this reply is for both dragonfly and jade.

Dragonfly- Fair enough- u don't vaxx or circ, to me that would make sense that u do both or neither because i put them both into the same basket being preventative measures (which they are).

Jade-while there is no need for you or anyone to justify your reasoning for your choices when it comes to your own children.

I beleive parents who circ do so because they beleive they could be preventing serious illness also, just like those who chose to vaxx for the same reason. Ive read many stories of children being damaged by vaccinations also and it being permanant also.

Im sure if anyone searched the internet they could find a whole heap of information for and against doing absolutely anything.

BUT again- who is mighty enough to say 'my opinion is more valid than yours'

[Father]

BUT again- who is mighty enough to say 'my opinion is more valid than yours'

Absolutely nobody.

Unfortunately, this forum is full of people who think that because they have an opinion...they need to force that opinion onto everyone else.

We are all entitled to an opinion. But at the end of the day - that's all it is. An opinion. And someone else's opinion (especially someone I don't know) means nothing to me. If I make a decision, I will base that decision off MY opinion, not anyone else's. And I will be fully accountable for those decisions that I make.

[CocktailBubba]

Yeah I agree.

To me both are preventative measures that can prevent illness BUT can also cause illness.

To decide whether or not to take that risk is up to the childs parents.

Once a child is circed it can not be reversed just like when a child is vaxxed it can not be reversed regardless of the outcome of our decision to do so.

Oh well I guess that is that, quite a lot of views but it seems that people are only able to argue pro or anti circ- not actually discuss it


Nite.