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[crazymuma]

God I just did a big thread and the computer ate it.

Round 2.

Almost 10 at night and my daughter is awake.

2 years old and was sleeping fine in a bed - now all of a sudden she is up after and hour or two of sleep. Been doing this for nearly 2 weeks and I am so ****ing tired.

She won't lay down, she won't stay in the bed - she is driving me ****ING crazy.

Seriously I need some ideas on how to get this kids back into a sleep routine before I snap.

Sorry for the swearing

[blissfullybonkers]

i don't have much advice except for maybe a night light, or cutting out her day sleep if she still has one?? or co-sleeping? My DD was an awesome sleeper from about 8 months til almost 3yrs(besides the early mornings from about 2yrs)...and now she has dropped her day sleep & every night without fail she ends up in my bed..she wakes up crying & saying she is scared & I can't be bothered in the middle of the night to fight it, in my bed she will sleep right through so for now thats where she is staying...

[Mum2Mimi]

Must be an age thing as Mia will be 2yrs in June and lately she has started waking just as im ready to go to sleep, if i put her to bed at 7pm she will wake at 10-11ish for some strange reason and will not go back down and thinks everything you try is one big funny game

she was a fantastic sleeper liek your dughter until recentley, she would sleep form about age 8weeks 7pm-7am now its 7pm-10/11pm wakes goes back down anywhere from and hr or two hours or i have to drag her into bed with me soemtimes as im just so drained! and if i do manage to get her back to sleep in her bed at say 12pm an hr after she wakes she will come wandering in my room just on dusk its still drak but sons just starting to pop up so around 4-5ish? and climbs into bed with me until 7am

sorry no advice,i have a night light ect,on or off no difference

can you lay down with her in her little bed and go back to basics and pat her to sleep?

[Sheer Bliss]

Maybe 2yo molars??

Has she had anything different in her diet lately? colours and preservatives have a negative effect on DS1's behaviour - certain ones make him rough/hitting others, some make him a crazy hyper being that has zero chance of sleeping. It was around 20 months that I noticed the food thing with DS, we would be up until nearly midnight most nights trying to get him to sleep, and no amount of bribery and corruption would co-erce him to sleep, neither would sleeping in our bed or one of us laying down with him.

Has your routine changed? Maybe go back to basics with a lwarm avender bath, warm milk, cuddles, story and bed?

HTH

[crazymuma]

First off we already co sleep. If she wakes through the night she usually just rolls over and cuddles and straight back to sleep.

The problem is bedtime is around 7 - she is usually up again by 8.

Cutting the daysleep won't work - She would happily sleep for a couple of hours but I wake her after an hour. The days when she hasn't slept she is either asleep on the floor by around 5 then up about 6 or she gets that overtired she will scream for a few hours then have a really restless night.

I guess I will have to try laying down with her - I really just don't have the energy these days to be dealing with the kids until 8 or 9 at night.

Will give it a go and see what happens.

She is finally asleep now so I can finally have some time to myself for the first time today

[crazymuma]

Maybe 2yo molars??

Has she had anything different in her diet lately? colours and preservatives have a negative effect on DS1's behaviour - certain ones make him rough/hitting others, some make him a crazy hyper being that has zero chance of sleeping. It was around 20 months that I noticed the food thing with DS, we would be up until nearly midnight most nights trying to get him to sleep, and no amount of bribery and corruption would co-erce him to sleep, neither would sleeping in our bed or one of us laying down with him.

Has your routine changed? Maybe go back to basics with a lwarm avender bath, warm milk, cuddles, story and bed?

HTH

Thanks for all your suggestions but I have already been through all of this.

She isn't in pain - its just a big joke to her.

Her diet isn't a concern as she lives on fresh fruit and vegies with a little treat occasionally. I don't buy packaged food (oh I lie I do for my fussy son but she doesn't eat any of it )

Lavender bath is a good idea - what do I put oil in it??

[*Cj*]

My DS (22 months) had started waking early morning for the last 2 weeks. I worked out that he is getting cold now that it is cooling off a little at night.

[Mum2Mimi]

yea i need the time to wind down to and it sucks when you dont get it

My DD is same,needs sleep stil if she doesnt have it she either will fall alseep right before tea around 5ish or will be sooky bum and drive me mad LOL

Molars is a good point

[blissfullybonkers]

so I can finally have some time to myself for the first time today

i know that feeling..

[Sheer Bliss]

Thanks for all your suggestions but I have already been through all of this.

She isn't in pain - its just a big joke to her.

Her diet isn't a concern as she lives on fresh fruit and vegies with a little treat occasionally. I don't buy packaged food (oh I lie I do for my fussy son but she doesn't eat any of it )

Lavender bath is a good idea - what do I put oil in it??

A few drops of lavendar oil in with the hot water at the start to help it disperse. It can burn if it hits the skin directly, so make sure it disperses first, or add a little plain massage or olive oil with it.

With diet.... (not saying that is what it is, but lots of people don't know this) if she is having loads of fruit - it could be the sugar. Grapes in particular have loads of salycitites (not good at spelling here it's late - lol) same with broccoli. Just more food for thought if you get to the clutching at straws point.

When DS is trying it on at bedtime - he tips his head to the side, half closes one eye and just says 'what mummy?' whenever I ask him anything - it would be so cute if it wasn't so annoying!! I have been telling him it's rude to say what, so now he is saying pardon mummy, in the same silly voice and the same silly look on his face - butter wouldn't melt!! LOL