Abuse against men...

[Benji]

Just had another read of the whole thing. Still don't see "feminists" condoning violence against men.

[MummaBear03]

Just had another read of the whole thing. Still don't see "feminists" condoning violence against men.

Not condoning it, so much as saying it's not worth putting effort into fixing the problem because the problem is not a big enough one and the issue of abuse against women is a far greater issue.

I also notice "excuses" for women hitting men, but no "excuses" for men hitting women, except defending oneself.

[Pippi Longstocking]

I don't know any feminists at all that condone violence against men.

[MummaBear03]

I don't know any feminists at all that condone violence against men.

Not condone. Ignore.

[~Candy~]

I also notice "excuses" for women hitting men, but no "excuses" for men hitting women, except defending oneself.

I noticed this too and I was like ...whaaaat??? talk about dbl standards

(edit: I don't mean the feminists as having dbl standards, just that thread in general).

[Benji]

Not condoning it, so much as saying it's not worth putting effort into fixing the problem because the problem is not a big enough one and the issue of abuse against women is a far greater issue.

I also notice "excuses" for women hitting men, but no "excuses" for men hitting women, except defending oneself.

I didn't see anybody announce themselves in that thread as being feminist.

Bubhub member "girly" has been known for her anti-feminist statements, does that mean that all women who are not feminists hit their partners? Of course not. I'm not judging girly with what I'm saying, just making a point that what one person says and does should not shun an entire group.

[Pippi Longstocking]

Not condone. Ignore.

It's not that it's being ignored. It's just that there is a huge issue in our society of male-perpetrated violence against women - far, far greater than the other way 'round. For this reason, many feminists focus on female victims of DV - because they have the greatest need. That doesn't in any way excuse female perpetrated violence, it doesn't ignore it, it just puts the focus where it needs to be. Focusing on female-perpetrated violence is often a smokescreen to take the focus of this huge issue we have.
Male perpetrated violence against female victims is the key issue. That concerns me more, because women are being harmed far more often, and far more severely, than men.

[Mrs Nietzsche]

Men are more likely than women to be killed by men, or bashed by men - stranger violence is more usually man on man.

Men are by no means more likely to be raped, or a victim of longstanding abuse.

I find it very interesting how women seek to place themselves as 'equal opportunity victims'.

I think it is another example of women being uncomfortable with a feminist message and wanting to conciliate with the dominant power (

[Pippi Longstocking]

I noticed this too and I was like ...whaaaat??? talk about dbl standards

What that post was talking about was the context in which violence occurs. Men are already in a more powerful position simply due to their gender. Statistically, men have greater access to financial, personal and political power. Men are also statistically physically stronger than women. Men generally tend to use violence as a form of control and power-over. Women tend to use violence as an expression of extreme emotion.
Neither is ok, but understanding the context is enlightening.

[Pippi Longstocking]

I think it is another example of women being uncomfortable with a feminist message and wanting to conciliate with the dominant power (

Yep, exactly what I was thinking. It shows how deeply entrenched this stuff is, when women collude with the oppressors rather than fight for equality, safety, and equal access to power.