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    Default JonBenet Ramsay's mum dies

    I read today that the mother of that poor little girl, JonBenet Ramsay, has died of cancer aged 49.
    I've read alot of books regarding her little girl's murder (both the family's version, private investigator's versions and the incompetent Boulder Police version), and I've always thought that the family didn't have anything to do with JonBenet's death.
    Patsy's finally been reunited with her little JonBenet again...may she rest in peace.
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    That's really sad. I thought it was quite horrible the way JonBenet's parents were treated. I also believe she has been reunited with her daughter.

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    Oh dear that is so sad. And its nearly been 11 yearse. I remember all the news stories about her (was living in the states at the time) Poor girl, atleast her mother can be at rest with her. I wonder when the father will go
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    oh wow
    i didn't know that

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    Yes i read about that this morning as well. I never thought it was her and she recieved the worst. Im glad she gets to be with her daughter once again
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    I'm sorry she has died, but I do believe that they had something to do with, or knew more than they were telling about their daughters death. The fact they lawyered up so fast and would not allow the police to talk to them, AND he was a prominent attorney in boulder smacks of protection. Any other family would have had to answer the difficult questions such as:

    how come the note was written on notepaper from the house?
    How come there is no sign of a break in, the alleged point of entry was proven to have been damaged from the inside not the out?
    How come they refused point blank to speak to the police and DA's office?etc etc

    Had they cooperated, many people may have given them the benefit of the doubt.
    Innocent people don't run away from questioning. Maybe it was their son...who knows?

    Sadly, she will take the truth with her and we may never know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamaduke
    Patsy's finally been reunited with her little JonBenet again...may she rest in peace.

    I agree. I wasn't aware that she was suffering from cancer. A very sad sad story it was. I wonder if we will ever know what truly happened to little JonBenet?

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    The fact they lawyered up so fast and would not allow the police to talk to them, AND he was a prominent attorney in boulder smacks of protection. Any other family would have had to answer the difficult questions such as:

    how come the note was written on notepaper from the house?
    How come there is no sign of a break in, the alleged point of entry was proven to have been damaged from the inside not the out?
    How come they refused point blank to speak to the police and DA's office?
    John Ramsay was not a prominent attorney in Boulder...he started his own computer company in the basement of his home, which was then bought out by a larger company and he stayed on and worked for them as a Director.
    John & Patsy Ramsay were very keen to help the Police in the beginning. It was only after the Police had taken the road of 'letting them stew' for a while, in order to see if one of them would 'crack under the pressure', that the Ramsays then sought legal advice. The Boulder Police didn't follow up on more than 95% of the more than 3,000 phone tips that came in (according to Lou Smit, who was working on the case) because they were hell bent on the 'parents did it' theory.
    The detective who was hired by the District Attorney, Lou Smit, has gone on record as saying that there was a scuff mark next to the open basement window which he believes had been made by someone entering the house. It's also interesting to note that the veteran detective (Smit) was originally hired by the District Attorney, but later started working (for free) for the Ramsays because of his belief that they had nothing to do with the murder of their daughter.
    His insight/opinion into the evidence is very interesting...

    Nearly all of the medical experts who have seen the autopsy report agree that this was not an accidental death. JonBenet Ramsey was deliberately and cruelly murdered.

    JonBenet was strangled, not once, says Smit, but twice, with an intricately-made device known as a garrote, which had to have been made by the killer during the murder. Why? Because the garrote had hair intertwined with it – JonBenet’s hair.

    “It’s a device, says Smit, that was not left there for show. Whoever killed JonBenet used the garrote to strangle her.

    Smit believes that JonBenet was fighting for her life. There were marks that look a lot like scratches on her neck. “JonBenet was trying to take that off of her neck,” says Smit. “She did have her own DNA under her fingernails. She was struggling with that garrote. Whoever was there with her knew that she was struggling. This is a very vicious strangulation.”

    At some point, the child was then hit over the head with such force it crushed her skull. But her nightmare wasn’t over. Shortly before she died, investigators believe she was sexually assaulted with a piece of the paintbrush that was used to make the garrote.

    Smit is unaware of a single case in which a parent used a garrote like this to kill a child.

    “This is one of the best clues left behind by the killer. This shows what’s going on in his mind. This is a sexual device. It’s a strangulation device. He’s a sexual sadist. I’m looking for a pedophile that’s a sexual sadist. That’s what Lou Smit’s looking for,” he says.

    Then there is the partial footprint, left by someone wearing Hi-Tec shoes, on the floor of the room where JonBenet’s body was found.

    “This is a very fresh print,” says Smit. “It shows somebody was in that room with JonBenet. The logo on the bottom of the shoe, it says Hi-Tec. And it’s quite distinctive.”
    All of the shoes in that house were checked by the Boulder Police Department. None of those shoes match any of the prints there.”
    But why would an intruder who intended to kill JonBenet leave the bizarre two and a half page ransom note, written with paper and a pen belonging to Patsy? Boulder Police have always believed that Patsy used it to make the killing look like a kidnapping.

    If someone was targeting JonBenet, wouldn’t he bring the paper and the pencil to write the ransom note?

    “Well if you want to look at it from a sophisticated criminal's mind, they probably wouldn’t bring it in. Why would you bring in something that could be traced back to your house?” asks Smit.

    The evidence, says Smit, imply does not support the popular theory that the Ramseys struck their daughter and then tried to cover it up.

    More than any other evidence, detective Lou Smit believes that small marks left on JonBenet’s face and back, prove that an intruder killed JonBenet.

    “The killer had a stun gun. I am sure the killer had a stun gun,” he says.

    He thinks the marks were made by a stun gun, an electrical weapon, which was used to incapacitate the little girl in order to move her to the basement. Smit believes only an intruder would need to use one.

    “There is no reason at all for the parents to have a stun gun to help stage the murder of their daughter,” he says. “There’s nothing to indicate the Ramseys ever owned a stun gun.”
    Smit has also found an interesting suspect, a convicted paedophile who once tried to strangle his mother with a telephone cord, was in the area at the time of the murder (could have been less than 10 houses away), had been convicted of assaulting another 7 year old girl & confided in his friend a day after the murder that he'd 'done something terrible'.
    Despite his friend calling Police and telling them of what he knew (including taped conversations of his friend talking about raping a little girl and simulating rape) this person was not investigated until 4 years after JonBenet's murder when he was caught with drugs...and a stun gun.

    Sorry I've prattled on a bit, but the more I read about this tragedy, the more I'm convinced that the Boulder Police Department were incompetent in the investigation of who really killed JonBenet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamaduke
    Patsy's finally been reunited with her little JonBenet again...may she rest in peace.
    i think that says it all perfectly to all of the family and friends of patsy during yet another difficult time in there lifes
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    They were incompetent - but the parents did not behave well either. the whole thing was badly handled. Had the parents been up front from the beginning.which i am sorry but they were not, they did not speak to the police for months, and that breeds suspicion.

    Re him having a comp firm...yes he did (forgot that), but his links with DA's office were strong and he used all his contacts to divert attention. The parents conduct contibuted to the police's incompetence because they were acting so suspiciously in the first place, the police changed their focus.

    I know we shall have to agree to disagree - I'm not saying they are guilty, what i am saying is that they cannot be ruled out. No one can say definitively what happened.
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