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    Please consult a pharmacist or GP to help you with your decision...yes there are medical options to help sedate you bub, but they are not to be taken lightly and can have some severe side effects.

    The trip you are embarking on does sound quite daunting with two youngsters so I don't blame you for wanting to look into all the options available- but just make sure you are very well informed before making any decisions.
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    i think that you should try to get a night flight so the kids are tired to begin with. as far as i know international flights have DVD players for each passenger. i flew singapore airlines recently with my 3yold and he had his own DVD (which we brought with us) but discovered he had one anyway with special kids movies and games. because it was 'exciting' going on a flight he was fine. we flew daytime on the way and he was very well behaved the hardest was the 3hr stop-over as he just wanted to run off. the night flight on the way back was great, he slept the whole way 8-9hrs and was very good when it took abt 1.5hrs through customs. there is no easy 'fix'. i don't know anything about the drug you are mentioning, i guess do some research as look in the travel section on bub hub for other peoples flight experiences with young children before you make a decision. I should also mention I flew with my son when he was about 15months and he fell asleep on take-off and was quite good but it was a shorter flight 3.5hrs. There are heaps of people flying with kids all the time. Mostly they are pretty good.

    i would definately recommend 'reins' at the airport if you have your hands full as this will keep your toddler safe and from getting lost as you don't want to leave your bag un-attended for one second.
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    Phernergan slows respiratory rates in children and can quite literally stop them from breathing, i wouldn't give it to my kids...although once i had to give it to my son as he had severe vomiting and maxolon syrup had been recalled so his only option was phernergan, under strict medical instructions......it never made him sleep, he literally climb the walls was awake all night for about 18 hours straight and couldn't sit still....

    If you are considering trying to medicate your child PLEASE PLEASE seek you doctors advice.

    If you think your child wont handle a long flight, then why are you going????
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    my mother told me that she gave it that phenergan (sp?) to me once as a little kid and I LITERALLY started climbing the walls! she said it was like watching the energiser bunny bouncing around until something o'clock in the morning
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    a really big feed seems to work for some mums. They are so full they just have to sleep. Good luck!

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    now my idealistic side would agree with all those that said tut tut dont do it..but the reality in me says..

    take them on the flight unmedicated but have the phenergan handy..
    I am the old lady that lives in the shoe that has so many children and is lost what to do ... some days

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    Vallergan and Phenergan are both similar but have different effects. Try them FIRST before you get on the plane.

    We flew to the States just before DS1 turned 2 and I doped him up for the second leg, NZ to San Fran. He was fine the first one, it was day time, but by nightfall, he was over it and needed help.. Plus there was a guy a row ahead who made some smarmy comment about screaming kids (was really tempted NOT to give DS anything just to P*** him off ) but had to for my own sanity.

    As it was, DS had practically no jet lag, and we were stuffed!

    Would do it again in a heartbeat. But again, trial run before you get on the plane (for PP reasons)
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    I've used all sorts of sedatives on children in hospital, in doses far above those used in the community, sometimes for days and weeks in intensive care, [we'd use huge doses of vallergan and triclofos], and I have never had to resuscitate a child because they stopped breathing due to over-sedation with oral sedatives. It is a theoretical risk, and something to be aware of, but I wouldn't let it put you off using a mild sedative to reduce distress on a long flight. I too come from Europe and understand that the 'don't go' advise isn't wildly helpful when you want to take your baby home! Have a chat to your docotor, double check the doses with a pharmacist and do a trial run a couple of weeks before you go. Have a good trip!
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    Could you first have a try of something natural ( like before you leave) like Bach Rescue Sleep Drops?


    Bach Rescue Sleep Drops 10ml - Natural Sleep Aid

    Rescue Sleep calms your restless mind providing natural relief of occasional sleeplessness caused by stress and repetitive thoughts. Non-habit forming
    Non sedatives
    No hangover
    Fast acting spray
    Insomnia Caused by Stress
    Restless Leg Syndrome (RLS)


    Active Ingredients:
    5x (HPUS) dilution
    Star of Bethlehem – Orithogalum umbellatum
    Rock Rose – Helianthemum
    Cherry Plum – Prunus cerasifera
    Impatiens – Impatiens gladulifera
    Clematis - Clematis vitalba
    White Chestnut – Aesculus Hippocastanum 27% Grape Based Alcohol as a preservative
    Dosage:
    4 Drops in water and sip at intervals, or 4 drops on the tongue.
    Purpose:
    The Bach Flower Essences are 100% safe and natural and work in conjunction with herbs, homeopathy and medications. They are safe for everyone, including children, pregnant women, pets, elderly and even plants.
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    We took DS and DD on a flight. DS would have been about 2 1/2 and DD about 9 months old.

    They were fine.

    I also flew with DS when he was 4 months old, he had a boob at the beginning of the flight and slept the whole way, same for the return trip.

    Perhaps look into some natural alternatives and give them a try out (all before the trip to find something that will work okay) well before turning to medicines. There are many children that have an opposite to the desired effect and you really don't want a long flight to be the time when you try a new medicine for the first time.


 

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