What do you define as CC?

**Kazamataz** · 10-07-2008 22:25

I have heard many objections to CC and I was wondering what do you actually define as CC?

The reason I ask is because I think there is a HUGE difference between CC and Crying it out.

My understanding of the two is:

Crying it out, when you just leave your baby to cry for however long it take for them to fall asleep.

Controlled Crying: Is when you allow your child to cry for a max of 10 mins.
Then you go back settle them, check them over for reasons that could be causing them to cry (wet nappy, hurt, ect)
Once settled you leave them again for an other 10 mins max and go through the whole process again.

I've heard a lot of people now refer to controlled crying as controlled settling as so many people have objecting to the words CC.

I don't agree with crying it out and I don't see how people could associate the two are there is nothing controlled about crying it out.

So I was wondering when you define CC what is your understanding of it?

**Mrs Potts** · 11-07-2008 08:49

I agree totally with your post. My thoughts precisely!

**Mummaholic** · 11-07-2008 09:03

Originally Posted by Mrs Potts

I agree totally with your post. My thoughts precisely!

**Leisa21** · 11-07-2008 09:13

For me I was totally against CC until my son never slept unless he was on the breast got like a 100 teeth and severed me all night lol. He had a breast sleep association so he wouldnt sleep without it. I started rocking him to sleep and then after he lost the boob sleep association I started CC. For me I didnt put a time frame on it. I said as long as I can handle it because when I get to a point that its enough I know its because DS is upset. I cant handle him crying I get high BP and it hurts me. The most I have ever left him to cry it out is 10 minutes and that felt cruel. Basically if it was more than a couple of mins I'd go in and settle him. Now almost every sleep he talks to sleep or sometimes has a winge for a min not a cry but a winge. I'd let him winge for a while just not cry.

So long story short

I think controlled crying is defined by the parent. We know when our babies are no longer putting themselves to sleep but are just upset. If my son needs me I'll be there. If its sleep he needs then a winge to get it is fine. Yes I agree with the policy all babies cry for a reason. However sometimes that reason is sleep and I know that cry as apossed to the Mummy I need a cuddle I want you cry

Hope my mindless tired ramble helps

**Hollywood** · 11-07-2008 09:18

I understand CC to be when you let them cry and start at a 1 min interval, then increase the time until you reach a maximum of 10 minutes and repeat it until the child gives up and goes to sleep.

If they vomit you quickly clean it up (same for a pooey nappy), and keep going until they go to sleep.

We don't use it.

**forbetoel** · 11-07-2008 09:20

I actually think it is defined by the parent. Some parents CC without even knowing there is a label for it.

I have always self settled. It is not CC as described technically. But for me that is what it is.

I help my baby learn to fall asleep on their own. I think that it is sometimes a learned skill. There are many benifits for the child who had good sleep patterns.

I know my kids have done well at school in part due to going to bed easily at 7.30pm and not waking until 7am the next morning.

A lot of babies who sleep poorly, still carry those same traits into early childhood and beyond.

I gently nudge them in the right directions, and I have very happy kids who are not sleep deprived. Babies and kids show the same signs and symptoms from poor sleep as we adults do.

I think it is a gift to help a child to sleep well.

**forbetoel** · 11-07-2008 09:21

Originally Posted by LibbyG

If they vomit you quickly clean it up (same for a pooey nappy), and keep going until they go to sleep.

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No...never heard of vomit being part of the plan.

If a child is so upset that they vomit...that would not be CC.

ETA..If that is your definintion of CC, then no wonder you don't use it.

**Leisa21** · 11-07-2008 09:30

Originally Posted by 4B2L

I actually think it is defined by the parent.

Exactly what I said

and I agree I never heard anyone mention vommit or poo. That has nothing to do with it. Besides if DS vommits in bed I'd have to change sheets and sometimes blankets so it wouldnt be a quick tansition anyway

**Mrs Potts** · 11-07-2008 10:06

Originally Posted by 4B2L

No...never heard of vomit being part of the plan.

If a child is so upset that they vomit...that would not be CC.

ETA..If that is your definintion of CC, then no wonder you don't use it.

**Verdi** · 11-07-2008 10:19

Libby G mmm that is not CC.

My babies never ever cried it out. CC for me was adjusting their sleeping patterns by putting them to bed, if they grizzled ( not cry) i would come in and pat them or give dummy, and would continue to do it till they got into a good sleeping pattern.

i have never used a crying it out method and my babies were never crying to the point of vomit or pooing.
The most i would get was a grizzle or alittle over tired cry but nothing hysterical, i think the Anti CC campaign has given some misleading info

I actually don't like the term CC i think it is a little misleading.

Maybe all the CC (hate that term) mummies should write their experience and method of CC so those anti CC can see what is real CC for each individual rather than baseing judgements on propaganda.