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JoJoMart

12-06-2007, 11:03

Hi everyone :wave:

I hope you are all having a better day today......sounds like there's been lots of sleep problems, settling issues etc.

Hels - unfortunately the cold has taken over :no: I have my last mother's group meet tomorrow which I will have to miss as I'm sick & don't want to give it to anyone or their bubs. Disappointing.

Lauren - Liam has been unsettled lately and I've noticed during the day when I put him down he will sleep maybe half an hour then wake and I put his dummy back in then he will sleep longer......but he always wakes and needs resettling. This doesn't happen at night as much, but he's been waking at 3am or 5am for an extra feed.......Has Jack improved?? What else have you tried?

Sandy - How's things with you?

Ziggy - I say do whatever works. I know controlled crying is frowned upon by some.....and I was told not to use the technique until they are at least 6 months old, but letting them cry a bit (not going in and out) might be okay?? Sometimes Liam has a little cry and we go back in and resettle and this usually works so I haven't tried letting him cry yet but I have done it during the day (not on purpose) when I've been on the phone or something and it's taken a while longer to get in to him and he's cried a bit then calmed down. It's so hard to know what's best for both bub & the parents!

I'm not doing too well I'm afraid.......got a cold and I think Liam is getting it as he's been coughing and sneezing a lot. Tried the FESS drops and aspirator and he fought my DH and I like crazy like we were trying to torture him! Poor thing.

mumslilspunks

12-06-2007, 14:36

Afternoon Ladies,:wave:
Joanne- Hope you feel better soon, Has Liam got a cold too?
Hels- The photos that you had done was it but a group called kids shots? Woohoo for Reece, clever boy.
Lauren- Billy also wakes around 4am. Normally its just for a bottle but some nights he can wake 3 or 4 times just for his dummy.
Sharon-Do you get along wth the mums in your mothersgroup? I dont think anyone here is going to think of you as a bad mother. If it works for you (and obviously it does) go for it.:thumbsup: Crickey i put the vaccum in Billys room when he wont settle.
Monica- Are you feeling any better?
Tanya- Hows the clean up going? Was there much damage?
Squiggles- Huge :hugs:
Took Billy to the MHN today and his 6.9kg and everything seems to be going on track.
Ill try and jump on live chat tonight
Hope everyone is having a great day.

*Sparkles*

12-06-2007, 14:40

Jo - I just PM'd you before I read your post. I hope you feel better soon :hugs:

Lauren - It's interesting that some of the girls have brought up controlled crying. I was chatting to one of my SIL's at the weekend and she said that one of her kids would not sleep at all (day or night). In the end she resorted to controlled crying and that's the only thing that worked. I have no idea what it's all about, but I know there is a big section on controlled crying in this forum that might help you?

Mon - What's all this about spotting and melted M&m's? is there something you want to share with us? ;)

Us - We are having a quite day at home, I am listing a few things on eBay this arvo and R has been asleep for 2.5 hours. He woke at 8.30am too which is his latest time yet. His routine seems to be changing a bit I have noticed.
Talk of the :devil6: he is waking up now for a feed.

I'll try to make it to live chat later aswell.

my_lot

12-06-2007, 14:41

Eli has found his feet!

its so funny to watch him..he tries to get them into his mouth!

any other bubs doing this?

my_lot

12-06-2007, 14:52

controlled crying is what first time mummas have a hard time thinking about and 4th time mothers dont think twice about :laughing: :laughing:

SuperFrog

12-06-2007, 19:07

I went to the doc today, for me this time, and I'm really sick. I have caught Liam's bronchiolitis combined with asthma, a throat infection, blocked sinuses and both ears are infected.

No wonder I feel like sh!t.

And because I am breast feeding, plus allergic to codeine, the limited medication I can take ended up being really expensive. Boo. :thumbsdown:

mumslilspunks

12-06-2007, 19:44

My boys sleep suits, not the best photo but,
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j262/mumslilspunk/Billy2mnths026.jpg

icugal

12-06-2007, 22:12

Hi ladies:wave:
Just thought id share this with you all,
http://www.onetruemedia.com/shared?p=2e4d09ca19138a3e716ec8&skin_id=0&utm_source=otm&utm_medium=
Hope it works.
Be bck in a sec for personals.

Beautiful Ren !!! What gorgeous boys you have !!

I'm sorry it's taken me so long to comment... I saw you post the link the other day, but didn't have time then to watch it then... so I've just hunted it down now to view it.

I actually started making one of these video/slideshows myself in my final weeks of pregnancy... but I never got around to actually finishing it. I guess now that Kaelan is born, maybe I should finish it.

Hmm...

Roopee

12-06-2007, 22:18

controlled crying is what first time mummas have a hard time thinking about and 4th time mothers dont think twice about :laughing: :laughing:

:laughing::yes:
Oh so true lol. I used to cry with Ds1 when he was crying but by the time i got to DD1 i was able to tune out to the point that i didnt even hear it. LOL

Shajbm

13-06-2007, 02:20

Hi ladies,

I'm sorry I've not been around of late. My DH has been away on business so I've been going solo for most of the weekend. I'm still trying to catch up on everything.

All the kids have been sick on and off the last couple of weeks and I'm sick now for the last couple of days. Looks like we're in for a long winter.

On a happier note though, I've organised a babysitter for tomorrow night. We have a thing on at Jake's kinder and then I thought that DH and I can go grab a bite to eat. I so need some time away from the kids. I miss them like crazy when I'm away from them but I am so over it right now.

I hope everyone has a great Wednesday and I'll check in during the day if I can.

mumslilspunks

13-06-2007, 06:45

Quick one this morning,
Thanks Penny, i didnt think i would be abel to do one but it was so easy.
Kay and Tanya, i only have 2 kids and i hear you on the crying. lol I used to run to Jack when he was born but with Billy sometimes i just cant get to him right away, so he screams. :D
Heres one of the other sleep suits i use for Billy;
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j262/mumslilspunk/Grobag004.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j262/mumslilspunk/Grobag001.jpg
Got a pretty busy morning so catch you all this afternoon.
Hope you all have a great day.

ziggy29

13-06-2007, 10:05

hi.
cats and kid - are you still managing to keep up with the thread.

how is mon feeling today?

lmenz - how was your night/day today?

i have nothing to say except i hope everyone who is unwell gets better really soon. get well vibes to all. :wizard:

my_lot

13-06-2007, 10:38

ren i was looking at your photobucket pics...are the two dogs yours?

like the sleeping bag with the hole for the carseat/pram strap what a good idea!

mumslilspunks

13-06-2007, 12:34

ren i was looking at your photobucket pics...are the two dogs yours?

like the sleeping bag with the hole for the carseat/pram strap what a good idea!

The light brown one (ridgeback X) is mine the other is DH's.

my_lot

13-06-2007, 13:17

eli has the other front tooth breaking through now!

mumslilspunks

13-06-2007, 14:34

eli has the other front tooth breaking through now!

:yelclap: :yelclap: for Eli. How has he been with them?

JoJoMart

13-06-2007, 14:43

Roopee & My_lot - Hmmm that's interesting that you eventually can tune out to the crying. Please give tips on how to do this. Liam has been a horror the last couple of days (though he may have my cold) I'm at my wits end and I can't ignore the crying :thumbsdown:

Mon - you poor thing. You sound so sick it must be horrible :no: . I've got a cold and finding it hard enough to look after myself and Liam but you sound worse than that.......I hope you've got some help?

Shajake - have fun tomorrow night! Sounds like you need a night out without the kiddies. I like the sound of that idea myself at the moment :yes:

Today I feel like a total failure. The last few days I can't seem to make Liam happy. I have a bad cold and Liam's a bit sniffly and coughing a bit but doesn't seem to bad (no temp or anything). He is asleep at the moment so on the plus side he seems to need more sleep but when he's awake no matter what I do - put him on his play mat, put him in his swing or rocker sing to him etc he starts crying and has even been pulling the skin on my neck, arching his back and going crazy. He doesn't seem happy at all.......the only time he was when I took him for a short walk in his pram. I'm just not well enough to be outside in the yuk Melbourne weather today but he seemed happy then. Sometimes I wonder if he hates me :gloomy:

I'll stop my sooking for now.......how is everyone else going today?

mumslilspunks

13-06-2007, 14:48

Joanne, He defianetly doesnt hate you and dont ever think that you are a failure. Im sure he's just been extra clingy and with you being sick doesnt help.
As im typing this Billy is in his cot screaming and has been for the last 10mins. No matter what i do he still screams so now he can get it out of his system..
:hugs: Hugs for you. They are so trying some days.
Sorry if anybody takes offence by me that im letting him scream but trust me i have tried EVERYTHING.:detective:

juzzy

13-06-2007, 15:08

Jo - i doubt very much that Liam hates you, i agree with what Ren said, he may just be extra clingy cause he is a bit sick. Or it may be that because you are sick you have a lower tolerance to him at the moment. Dont feel bad you are doing a great job and things will be better once you are better.

Ren - i dont think there is anything wrong with letting them have a bit of a cry. I let Cassidy do it, but when she gets hysterical i stop it.

Cassi had immunisations this morning. She did well. Cried when they gave them to her and then once we left the room she was all smiles. Took her for a walk in the pram after it and she seems ok.

Went to the CHN this afternoon, she thinks i am boderline PND and wants me to keep an eye on it and go to the GP if i get worse.

Also asked her about feeding Cassidy to sleep, she said if it works for me then thats ok but said that i may be making her associate sleep with food and thinks i should feed her, let her play for 10 mins and then wrap her for sleep (so basically properly follow the feed play sleep routine).

Well i tried it for her afternoon nap. i fed her, let her play in the bouncer and then wrapped her and put her in the cot. This was at 3 oclock. Its now 4.15 and i have been in to her room every 10 minutes since i put her down. Shes crying and really upset.

I dont know if this is because i changed her routine or if it has something to do with the immunisations she had this morning. I feel really bad about changing things on her. Im a bad mummy.

Got her weighed, she now weighs 6.9 kgs (15lb 5oz), is 61cms in length and has a head circumference of 42 cms.

JoJoMart

13-06-2007, 15:11

Thanks Ren. I can totally understand you letting Billy scream because I've contemplated this myself some days & everyone has their limit :banghead:

God it's hard being a mum sometimes...

SuperFrog

13-06-2007, 15:17

I'm starting to feel a bit better today, but that could be all the drugs kicking in. No one to help me today, but Liam must sense that I'm not well because he has been pretty good. DH said he woke up with a sore throat this morning. Really hope he doesn't get it bad.

I can't remember who mentioned trying to use the nose saline, but we have the same problem here. Liam screams when I try to touch his nose, like it is some kind of torture. Pretty ironic that the "nose-picker" doesn't like his nose being touched! :laughing:

Still no confirmation from Sandy about the M&M story?

JoJoMart

13-06-2007, 15:18

Thanks Juz........I don't have much tolerance at the moment that's for sure. Take care re: PND.....I hope you don't suffer this but if you do you'll need lots of support :hugs:

JoJoMart

13-06-2007, 15:25

Last post from me........

Mon - it was me who mentioned trying to give my Liam Fess drops in the nose & same thing, he acted like I was torturing him! Hope ur better soon

ziggy29

13-06-2007, 15:52

JO and jUzzy-

newsflash - there is no such thing as a bad mother. not on this fab feb list anyway. if you feed your baby, change your baby, wash their clothes, keep them in a safe environment and love them (which we all do btw) then you are a good mother.

no one ever said that you have to have a happy baby to be a good mother.

sometimes we do things for our kids which might cause them some momentary pain but we do it because we think that it will be better in the long run. eg they have needles to stop getting sick later, we let them cry because otherwise their mother will go insane or we are trying to let them sleep, we put the toys out of their reach to encourage them to roll over (what im doing now).

juz - how did the nurse decide you have boarderline PND? did you do a questionaire? it is just that the nurse thought i was fine but when i went to the GP i had quite a bad case.

wrt to the feeding to sleep thing - remember you are the mum and you should do what you feel is best for your daugher. if you are going to make majot changes to her routine maybe do it when you have a support person around to help and explain to cassidy what u r going to do beforehand.

juzzy

13-06-2007, 16:06

juz - how did the nurse decide you have boarderline PND? did you do a questionaire? it is just that the nurse thought i was fine but when i went to the GP i had quite a bad case.

I did one of those questionnaire thingos. I scored an 8 which is apparently borderline.

*Sparkles*

13-06-2007, 17:00

Just a quick post from me as I can hear R stirring (he's asleep in the swing).

We had an awful afternoon :thumbsdown: . Went to my Mother's Group meet at one of the girl's houses near me. R was a bit unsettled when we got there and then he got worse so after a while so I drove home to get his pram (I didn't take it as didn't think I would need it). But he wouldn't settle in the pram either and after 30 mins or so he was hysterical. I ended up appologising to everyone and came home early. I know he's only a baby but he spoilt what should have been a nice afternoon. It was hard to keep my cool with him and as soon as we got home he went to sleep in his swing and has been there for about 2 hours! typical hey?
I am going to let him sleep for as long as he wants to, then I will feed him and we are going to the photographer's studio tonight so I hope he behaves :fingerscrossed:

On a positive note I have been in discussions with a supplier as I want to start something new with my internet business. They replied to me today and are willing to take me on so I can start selling their products on eBay and other auction sites. I am really excited and will fill you in with more details when I have more info.

Have a good night everyone.

harleyq

13-06-2007, 17:15

Yep Mon - it was me, and it was an orange M&M when l thought maybe l was getting my show :banghead:, l was really excited, then just ended up feeling like an idiot - but it was funny... I hope you're feeling better - it sounds horrible!!

Jo - it sounds like your doing it really tough, what is it with these bubs at the moment, Coen has been totally weird these last two weeks too, I hope all gets better for you and Liam soon.

Lauren - Not sure if you want to give this a go, but when Coen was waking up at 5 am and failing to go back to sleep we began using a heatbag on his tummy, we then graduated to using it when ever he was niggling at night but couldn't possibly be hungry - and it seemed to work, we then went on to using it to get him to sleep when we were struggling - it worked in all cases and now (touch wood) we don't use it at all - but will reinstitute if we need to - it wasn't a hassle at all... it was a small heatbag (one you would usually use for a headache) - and we would warm it up for 30 seconds...
That gave me a good idea... we have been trying to get Coen to sleep since about 12.30 (it took us until just now - about 6pm to get him down) and l used the heat pack and whallah... asleep ... why on earth didn't l think of it earlier (thanks Lauren)...
There is a long story to why Coen didn't sleep, but basically l have had mum here since yesterday arvo so l could spend time with DH helping him study for his exam (he is really nervous - and if he passes we get the money back for the course, if he doesn't we're out $2k - so l want him to pass) - anyway l think Coen is fretting cos he hasn't spent much time with me - l have just been feeding him really and mum has been doing everything else...
Oh sh!t he is up again - and after only 15 minutes - our boy is sooooooooo overtired now it is not funny... Dh has gone to him... I guess l should go... will share more later...

LMenz

13-06-2007, 18:08

lmenz - how was your night/day today?

We had a much better night, thanks for asking. He woke at 1am where I re-wrapped him and he went straight back to sleep...he then didn't wake until 4.45!!

I really think his inconsistancy could be due to his teeth moving or making their way through. He's biting down really hard on things too. His cheeks are rosy red, snuffy nose, lots and lots of dribble. I'll be keeping a close eye on his mouth

she thinks i am boderline PND and wants me to keep an eye on it and go to the GP if i get worse.

:hugs: Juz I'm glad your on top of it. Your doing a great job with Cassi and are definately NOT a bad mum. I agree with Ziggy - get David to help out if you want to change her way of falling asleep. Bear in mind it will take a few days too. Maybe try when your feeling a bit better.

Jo - :hugs: To you too. I've often thought Jack hates me. Deep down I know he doesn't but it's hard not to think it sometimes...Your Liam's whole world, he would be totally lost without you. Hope your feeling better soon darl.

Mon - :hugs: You poor thing - You sound so sick! Hope your feeling better today!

US - Well I spent my afternoon at the Women's Hospital. TMI coming..... I had a bleed this morning and passed some cysty tissue stuff (GROSS!!) OB thinks it's scar tissue from Jack's birth but won't know the results from pathology until Monday. I also have to have an ultrasound just to check if I have any retained placenta.

While the OB had his hand up my clacker, Jack decided to scream hysterically....the poor midwife was trying to rock his pram but he just kept screaming louder and louder. AH the joys of having children!! :laughing:

mumslilspunks

13-06-2007, 19:41

Luaren, i hope all goes well with your results.
Trust kids to scream at the worst times.
I had a doctors appointment and had ( sorry id f TMI) my first smear since ds1 was born and Billy was all giggles and as soon as doc got started he screamed for the whole time.
So heres me, in the doctors office with no undies on trying to settle a very upset baby.:eek: :D
Felt sorry for the doc seeing a fat wobbly butt rocking a screaming baby.LOL

*Sparkles*

13-06-2007, 21:16

Lauren - I hope everything turns out ok for you, must have been a bit of a scare :hugs:

I'm feeling extremely drained, R has screamed again constantly for the last 2 hours. We went to the photographer's studio and he cried a bit on the way there then fell asleep. He was pretty good whilst we were in there but then he got hysterical on the way home. I have just given him some panadol before his bottle, not sure if he could be teething or what :confused: He has spewed a bit today aswell.

We are very pleased with all the photos, so hard to chose which ones we wanted but we have chosen a nice collection to be framed etc. We should get them in 2 weeks time along with a DVD slideshow with music. Now I just have to find out a way to pay for it all :rolleyes:

I hope R sleeps ok tonight, I could do with a good night's sleep after the day I have had! :fingerscrossed:

icugal

13-06-2007, 21:19

Today I feel like a total failure. The last few days I can't seem to make Liam happy. I have a bad cold and Liam's a bit sniffly and coughing a bit but doesn't seem to bad (no temp or anything). He is asleep at the moment so on the plus side he seems to need more sleep but when he's awake no matter what I do - put him on his play mat, put him in his swing or rocker sing to him etc he starts crying and has even been pulling the skin on my neck, arching his back and going crazy. He doesn't seem happy at all.......the only time he was when I took him for a short walk in his pram. I'm just not well enough to be outside in the yuk Melbourne weather today but he seemed happy then. Sometimes I wonder if he hates me :gloomy:

Jo... :hugs: Liam doesn't hate you.. he doesn't even know what hate is... but I'm sure he knows what love is... especially when he sees your face smiling down at him.

K has been quite unsettled the last few days too. I don't know if it is teething, hunger or the change of weather... it can get quite frustrating at times, but I'm sure it will pass.... well, that's what I keep telling myself *LOL*

Sorry if anybody takes offence by me that im letting him scream but trust me i have tried EVERYTHING.:detective:

As if !! I let K scream too... particularly if I'm in the middle of a meal or something. As far as I'm concerned, if they're going to scream regardless, then you might as well let them scream in their cot where they are perfectly safe (or on the floor on a rug). There are times where K gets himself so worked up, that I nearly drop him because he flings himself around. The cot or floor are definately good options !!

I'm starting to feel a bit better today, but that could be all the drugs kicking in. No one to help me today, but Liam must sense that I'm not well because he has been pretty good. DH said he woke up with a sore throat this morning. Really hope he doesn't get it bad.

Mon, I've thinking of you the last couple of days.. hoping that you and Liam are both on the mend. Sounds like a god-awful flu you've had. I got hit really bad with the flu last year, but thankfully that was pre-baby and pre-pregnancy. Oh, and I did get a really bad cold in England... but you sound like you've had it much, much worse... especially with Liam being sick too. Sending healthy vibes to you.

US - Well I spent my afternoon at the Women's Hospital. TMI coming..... I had a bleed this morning and passed some cysty tissue stuff (GROSS!!) OB thinks it's scar tissue from Jack's birth but won't know the results from pathology until Monday. I also have to have an ultrasound just to check if I have any retained placenta.

While the OB had his hand up my clacker, Jack decided to scream hysterically....the poor midwife was trying to rock his pram but he just kept screaming louder and louder. AH the joys of having children!! :laughing:

You poor bugger.. hope everything is ok !!

I know how you feel though. I had a big bleed when Kaelan was six weeks old... and just like you, ended up at the hospital. I had to have an internal ultrasound and of course, K picked that exact moment to start screaming hysterically (the little hat he was wearing went over his eyes... and he goes ballistic if his eyes get covered). The sonographer had to stop the internal scan half way through to comfort my hysterical baby (because obviously I couldn't reach him.. and I had the u/s probe up you-know-where). I was so embarrassed... and yet it was just a little bit funny as well.. it was like a scene out of a comedy movie. These babies certainly know how to time these things.

You've only just got your period back haven't you?? Maybe you're inadvertantly having a bit of a 'clean out' so to speak... that's pretty much what the doctors put it down to with my bleed (I had gushing blood and large clots.. sorry if TMI). I also had it with my second period too... but to a lesser extent.

Us - (like this entire post hasn't ended up being about me anyway !! *LOL*)

We've had a quiet day today. I spent most of it trying to entertain young Kaelan and keep him happy (he seems to become unhappy very quickly atm). I'm thinking his gums are giving him some grief at the moment because you can virtually hear him sigh with relief when I stick my finger in his mouth and give his gums a bit of a massage. He even loved the Bonjela which is a new thing !!

I might be imagining it, but the hard area that has been present on his bottom gum (bottom, left front position) seems to feel slightly more textured at the moment, as though the top of the tooth is just sitting under there ready to break through. His cheeks have been particularly reddened the past week and he is chomping on EVERYTHING and is drooling even more of late (if that's possible). I guess we'll see over the next few days whether a tooth cuts through or not !!

Question for everyone - I know I'm being exceptionally premature with this... but what do you think you'll be buying for your childs christmas/first birthday. I only ask this because KMart/Target/Big W will all have their big toy sales coming up very soon with the christmas lay-by facilities. And being as I'm truly financially deficient these days.. I'm going to have to take advantage of these sales.

K's birthday is only a month after christmas... so it might be worth me buying for both occasions at once. Only problem is that I have no idea what to buy a baby for it's first christmas/first birthday.

Help me !!!

juzzy

13-06-2007, 22:03

must be the time for unhappy babies.

Cassidy was crying for most of tonight. Ive never seen her so unhappy. Made me want to cry. I gave her panadol and a nice warm bath and she still wasnt happy (this was after being a human dummy for a few hours). She has finally gone to sleep :fingerscrossed: she stays there until the morning.

Cassi has been really hot tonight which hasnt helped. Could this be related to the immunisations?

Ive pretty much felt badly for my bubba all day today. After getting immunised and then being terrorised by the CHN (she was so buggered after that she fell asleep on my shoulder walking out of the centre).

Lauren - geez that sounds a bit nasty. Hope u are better soon and there is nothing wrong! Babies really do pick the worst time to crack the sh!ts

Penny - i was just wondering the same thing about christmas. What the hell do you buy a baby for their first christmas?! Geez and i thought i was hard to buy for! Ok so i have been totally no help what so ever. Maybe tanya, ren and kay can help us out on this one!

shelby

14-06-2007, 08:49

hi all :wave:

well i have had a rough few weeks and have been lurking over the last week or so wondering where to jump in! have about a million pages to catch up on so will do some reading but just wanted to say a quick hi first!

so whats been happening?

its been a b it hard since my friend passed away. very sad at such a young age. being a parent now I feel a whole new level of empathy for his parents, who i am quite close to (they are like olivia's adopted grandparents) i mean i worry about something happening to olivia almost every day and i cant imagine how awful it would be to lose your son at 22...

DF and I also decided that we would finally set a wedding date and start to organise our wedding (3 days before my friend passed). We're going to get married on August 24th this year in Port Douglas and have invited about 30 close friends and family. Its been rather stressful trying to organise everything over the internet but its nice to have something to look forward to!! I'v e started panicking about what I will look like in pics so have started a 10 week personal training at the gym to try to lose some of the last of my pregnancy podge.

And I am going to tory to go back to work part time, or find another part time job. DFs business is slowing down for winter and rather than him getting a second job I am going to look into going back....which I am dreading as I dont know how I could leave my little cherub, and I also have to decide what to do about breastfeeding. I know if I really wanted to I could express while at work and keep it going but I think it would be really stressful at the same time. I am also really tired atm as Olivia has started waking up every 3 hours at night for a feed and I am struggling to get back to sleep between so at least DF could give her a bottle and I could get more sleep!

I think what I will end up doing is giving her a morning and night feed and FFing in between.

A friend of a friend gave me a fantastic tip to try to settle Olivbia for her daytime sleeps as it was just getting ridiculous. She was screaming for up to an hour before we put her down and I just wasnt coping. She went to a sleep school as she had the same problem with her daughter and they taught her a less severe form of controlled crying, which is basically put them in their cot and sit next to the cot, with your face turned away and your hand on the chest. Dont say "shh" or verbally comfort her but just sit there with your hand on their chest until they stop crying then leave the room. Well, its worked brilliantly, to the extent that I can now put her down and walk away almost immediately and she puts herself to sleep. Its like I have a new baby and its made things a lot less stressful.

Anyway cant wait to catch up on everyones news, will post personals later

my_lot

14-06-2007, 09:40

morning everyone!

CHRISTMAS!!!! well i was just thinking about this too!

id like a show of hands on doing a "fab feb mumma secret santa"!

for our bubs....well ive already started xmas shopping..just picking things up on the sales for my kids and checking out prices to find the best deal on an ipod and digital camera we will be getting for dds.

i have three birthdays within a month of christmas this year! ive done the 1 year old (or nearly 1) christmas twice before.

here are some winners!

ball with "bumps" about $4 in kmart

cardboard books- the touch and feel ones with fluff, rubber ect- about $10 in target

the ones that play music are good but one year olds still chew and rip books so they wont be much fun with music and no pictures- keep these on the bookshelf!

bath toys (yest i saw some cute tug along boats in taget on sale $8?)

we got a pirate playset at xmas time for $12? and it suctions onto side of tub and came with island, boat, slide and fat little pirates!

foam numbers/ letters for the bath

kitchen, picnic set and/ or plastic fruit and veg- we got a box from target for $10- think 18months! its all about imaginary play!

fisher price little people playset! these will grow with your bub til they are 4-5+

fisherprice doll house toys- gawd these are the cutest mummy and daddy dolls! they are chunky for little hands but move and you can get a baby set with a push chair or a family car with a baby and carseat!

we have the older style (cos we got it about 8 years ago!) and ds loved them from walking age and still plays with it now.

sand clam- about $30 for both sides. you can use it dry like a ball pit or with sand or some water...we still have ours from dd1 first xmas!

3 ring blow up pool.

ride on car- about $20 from toysrus or department store...i see dora, bob, thomas- these are a great buy they will ride it til their knees are under their chins!

plastic chunky cars- from special education shops or toy shops. not exxy just hard to find. great for sand pit play

cubby house. (or cardboard box!) they are so much fun for a crawler/ walker/ toddler big kid and mum and dad!

hhhmm maybe i should stop now give someone else a turn!

i know to look at they dont seem like baby toys but i just dont see the point in getting things they will outgrow before the next birthday/xmas ((and our feb bubbas will have to wait a whole 11 months for the next gift giving))

i will probably get eli some more books for his leapPad (and thats a great toy! he loves that! its made tummy time a whole lot easier!)

i will get him some more bath toys and a ride on car.

we always get the kids certain things each year so we will do the same for ELI.

books -so ill go for the hard books for eli.

a CD they like- so we will get eli a CD of songs with his name sung all the way through

a matchbox car- picked just for him!

and character clothes of their choice for xmas day lunch.

and a character toothbrush in their stocking!

juzzy

14-06-2007, 10:00

Kay they are great ideas!! Thanks for the inspiration!

i was thinking about getting one of those leappad things for cassidy for chissie as well as somethings that she can grow up with as well. Oh and the standard clothes and stuff LOL

SuperFrog

14-06-2007, 10:43

What a list!

I'm up for a Fab Feb Secret Santa, as long as we set a spending limit. Sounds exciting.

Who was it that wanted knitted bum covers for their MCNs? Was it you Kay? I have found a way to convert adult jumpers into bum covers with very minimal sewing.

SuperFrog

14-06-2007, 10:49

It's great that you've set your wedding date Shelby. Something to look forward to! We expect lots of pics, okay?!

juzzy

14-06-2007, 11:27

hmmm pretty quiet in here today...

umm can someone tell me how their babies were after their 4 month needles?

Cassidy totally hasnt been herself since she had them yesterday morning. Im starting to worry.

When shes awake shes screaming and crying. Shes been sleeping more as well and is really hot. Its like she is really miserable. Makes me want to :crying:

She is asleep on the couch at the moment, has only been wake for about 2 hours in total today.

This is her, asleep on the couch

sleeping (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p46/juzz01/P1000562.jpg) soundly (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p46/juzz01/P1000563.jpg)

well she slept for 30 mins or so...

now shes awake and grumpy again

awake (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p46/juzz01/P1000564.jpg)

ziggy29

14-06-2007, 12:04

Lily just had her needles this morning so i dont know how she is going to react yet.

If cassidy is hot - have you given her some panadol? also it could be the injections or she could be sick and it just be coincidence. if you are concerned i would definately be getting her checked out again.

Lily weighed 6.5kg and was 61.5cm long. I though she was getting heavy.
I am having a clumsy day and keep banging myself on doorways, car etc. im covered with bumps and bruises. lol

juzzy

14-06-2007, 12:27

i have already given her panadol and she isnt as hot now, just crying and really unhappy by the sound of her. I have no idea what to do to make her feel better

:no: :gloomy: :crying:

Roopee

14-06-2007, 12:45

Hmmm this might be long...there's heaps to catch up on you ladies :ecomcity: too much lol.

juzzy- what temp is she at? If it goes to 39 or more ring the dr's straight away. Its probably a reaction to the needles...was she sick before she had them? Whingy, clingly etc? Keep her as cool as you can. Just dress her in a singlet or t-shirt if shes hot.

xmas- im up for the secret santa idea. Will we do it just for the mummies? The kids get so much anyway.
for the kids...everything Kay said is great.
Try some bubble blowing stuff. Its always a hit and pretty cheap too. You can even get the automatic blower ones so it blows the bubbles for them, these are great or parties etc.

Bath tablets..it changes the colour of their water..woolworths have them.

Cant think of anything to add..kay did it toowell lol.

kay- pm me your address so i can send tis sleeping bag to you mate. Also Toys R Us are having a big baby sale atm..they have Jolly Jumpers on a frame (no tigger mat unfortunately) for $39.99.

shelby- big :hugs: good to see you back.

us- well ive been doing the rounds today, getting price for the insurance agency on cost of replacing all our stuff that was ruined. We haven't had any hassles so far and it seems it will all go thru fine. I have taken pics of everything, however, i dropped my camera onto the concrete (tripped over the damn dog) while i was doing it. It still works thankgod, it cost me $3000 two years ago and would simply die if i wrecked it. Hmm might have to add it to the things lost in flood lol.

Hope everyones having a good day..if your not here's some :hugs:

my_lot

14-06-2007, 13:11

hi again

yes mon it twas me! you csmarty pants. how can you do that?

on secret santa...tan- i was thinking for the bubs..its easier -dont you think?

everyone whos interested please give ideas...

i was thinking something hand made- with a budget of about $10 and see what we can come up with. ??????

(oh i saw the best sig...:"i like to give hand made gifts- which one of my kids would you like?")

juzzy

14-06-2007, 13:42

juzzy- what temp is she at? If it goes to 39 or more ring the dr's straight away. Its probably a reaction to the needles...was she sick before she had them? Whingy, clingly etc? Keep her as cool as you can. Just dress her in a singlet or t-shirt if shes hot.

thanks for the advice, shes cooled down now. Taken her temp its at 36.6 now. As for a reaction to the needles. She was sick when i was sick say a week or so ago now. Hasnt been whingy or clingy (except for now that is). I still have her in her pjs (the ones that were in the pics i posted b4). If she does get hot again i will take her out of her pjs and leave her in a singlet and nappy. Its time for her normal afternoon nap soon so i will keep an eye on her.

As for the xmas stuff i think secret santa would be fantastic! No idea what id buy on a budget of $10 tho!

my_lot

14-06-2007, 14:18

$10 !! thats heaps!

i was going to say $5! :laughing:

itll be fun to see what everyone can do on the budget...there are some super creative feb mummas here i know it!

oh and it gives me 6 months to think something up!

~~~Eli has cut through that second tooth! im going to have a go at taking a pic when he wakes up.

he is biting me now and ive growled at him a few times! hes always been a grump waiting for the let down but now he gets a grip and pulls his head back! if he draws blood his breastfeeding days will be over! i will have to take him to hospi to be tube fed tho cos he STILL wont take a bottle!

harleyq

14-06-2007, 14:42

We had a much better night, thanks for asking.

US - Well I spent my afternoon at the Women's Hospital. TMI coming..... I had a bleed this morning and passed some cysty tissue stuff (GROSS!!) OB thinks it's scar tissue from Jack's birth but won't know the results from pathology until Monday. I also have to have an ultrasound just to check if I have any retained placenta.

While the OB had his hand up my clacker, Jack decided to scream hysterically....the poor midwife was trying to rock his pram but he just kept screaming louder and louder. AH the joys of having children!! :laughing:

Glad its getting Jack is getting more manageable... l hope all turns out well with the tests... oh and the same thing happened to me, l went to the Doc to get a referral to the specialist for my PCOS, and l had to get checked cos l was worried l had a prolapse.... turns out l do... - a bit dissappointed - not sure what to do right now, but turns out cos of the fractured coccyx my bits weren't engaging and... well l just hope l can fix it w/o surgery, Hels l know you had surgery, Penny what are you doing? Anyway Coen was fantastic whilst we waited for 20 minutes to see the dr. and just as l get on the table for the dreaded inspection - he starts screaming -- timing - they really can pick it can't they!!!

m
id like a show of hands on doing a "fab feb mumma secret santa"!
Great idea!!! I am gonna need the 6 months to think of something!!! Oh and thanks for the ideas of xmas pressies... l took notes!!!

DH is at his exam right now - about 10 min. to go - l hope he does okay!!! :fingerscrossed:

Coen finally got to sleep at around 7.30 last night... so he was up from 10.30-7.30pm...

I was thinking about everyone last night in bed... and just wanted to say one thing -
people seem to have gotten into the habit of apologising for every little thing - no personals, sharing there baby methods, i.e. controlled crying, when they are having a good day with their babies (knowing that others might not), when they have been MIA etc. - for what its worth - its a very nice thought - but l'd like to think we can all share our feelings, thoughts, have a whinge, celebrate when things are going right etc. without having to apologise - so can l propose that we all try to stop apologising - we're here to share after all aren't we? (Now one last apology - l hope l don't offend anyone with this idea)!!! :)

OKay - have missed you all and hope to get on to chat tonight - but might have to spend time with DH (oh its such a chore :D)

blubber

14-06-2007, 15:45

Well it seems things have increased in pace here over the last day or so.

Healing vibes to all that are sick or dealing with post pregnancy and birth problems. I feel for you as it was always a fear of mine and thankfully i never had any problems. Excluding after labour pains...OMG..Kay and Tanya you may understand what i mean...and Elly was only my second.
We have all had this flu/cold for two weeks and i am so over it now. How on earth do you recover when it is 11degrees and the house is so fricking cold!! achoo..tissue anyone?

Kids Presents: From experience there can be such pressure or expectation to have the perfect present. As we know they all prefer the paper anyway but we do like to get something special for them.
I tried to aim for lasting things, a memento for 1st Xmas/birthday. MIa we gave her a silver mug engraved for her 1st Birthday and will do the same for Elly. Mind you they still get heaps of stuff from everyone else. We tried to implement a less is best mentality through our families but they don't listen. Sometimes it's embarrasing the amount of stuff they get/have.
FOr me it has always been about books and Mia loves to draw. Perhaps Elly has missed out in the early days as she has all of Mia's stuff.

For boys or girls things that move, make music and sounds and building things are lasting.

Secret Santa: Although I am miles from anyone I would love to be involved.

Solids: How many of us are just starting or have have been doing the solids thing? Can you share what time of day you sit there and get rice cereal that tastes like carboard plastered allover you and bubs?
I know from Mia that once you start there is no turing back but it is also a good time filler as they begin to stay up longer:

Rountines: i know it's been discussed long and hard but is anyone still trying to interpret what their bub really wants to do from one day to the next. Elly just can't seem to get it right.

Also i just can't get her past that 5.00am when she really isn't hungry but wakes all the time.

Cheers all, hope to make it to chat tonight, although DH has been away and back today so maybe some catching up to do!!!!Valentine

mumslilspunks

14-06-2007, 15:47

Afternoon all :wave:
Juzzy just love those photos of Cassidy, the last one is like 'oh no not more photos LOL A quick question how do you change the wording for the link? Like instead of having photobucket blabla and have 'sleeping etc? (hope you know what im talking about.:detective:
Kay- Love the chrissy idea but what if you absoultely S#@t at crafts? :D
Sandy_ completely agree with not having to apologise.:thumbsup:
Hope to make it to chat tonight ladies,
gotta fly got to make dinner before the boys wake.

JoJoMart

14-06-2007, 15:53

I love the Fab Feb Secret Santa idea :yelclap:

Lauren - you poor thing, I hope it isn't a retained placenta. Does it normally take this long to have bleeding for this?

Sandy - I agree! We all don't need to apologise for having good things happen (or bad)........like you say it's just sharing and it's great that we can all do that and shouldn't feel bad about what we say :)

Hels - I know what you mean I hate it when Liam is unsettled.......on your positive note, your new business venture sounds interesting. Are you still thinking of your original idea of painting those baby room signs?

Me - Liam has hardly slept today.......It's driven me crazy as I'm still sick with a cold. He's on my lap as I type (any spelling errors are his!!) after a meazly half hour sleep.......the GP said he could possibly be teething......his got rosy red cheeks, lots of slobber and been very unsettled of late. He said he thought he felt a tooth so wait and see over the next 2 weeks. Wow my litle boy is growing up already!!

Gotta go, he's cracking it again....and again and again :banghead: :banghead:

juzzy

14-06-2007, 16:00

Ren i know what ur talking about... there is a button u can press when ur typing a reply...

it says "insert link" and is the pic of the globe and a chain link... pressing that brings up a pop up box that says "please enter URL...", paste ur URL and press ok....
Then in the reply window it will show ur link twice.... delete the second one and put whatever u want it to say eg "sleeping bubba" or whatever.... Try it and see if it works...

(Have to say a big sorry, im shocking at explaining things and only just figured it out myself LOL)

I like that photo too BTW... lol i have no doubt that she is sick of me taking photos of her, im forever shoving a camera in her face lol

juzzy

14-06-2007, 17:30

Me again...

geez anyone woud think i dont have a life or something... :D Cassidy is asleep still so i have to fill my time somehow!!

Found this photo of her.... somehow i dont think she likes tummy time (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p46/juzz01/P1000557.jpg)

LMenz

14-06-2007, 17:47

Lauren - you poor thing, I hope it isn't a retained placenta. Does it normally take this long to have bleeding for this?

No, the OB said it was very unusual for it to happen so far down the track......I don't think it is retained placenta but am having the ultrasound just in case. I'm still bleeding a bit today. I may not have had a period after all...could have been the scar tissue bleeding all along

Sandy - :hugs: Gee were all having some trouble in that area......bloody childbirth!! Hope you can get it sorted out without surgery. Good Luck to your DH. Hope he passes his exam :fingerscrossed:

Shelby - Congrats on setting a wedding date. Looking forward to hearing about all your plans. Glad Olivia has settled for you. I was wondering the other day what had happened to all the Sydney girls??

my_lot - I'm in on the secret santa. Sounds great! Thansk for the list of pressies too. I think Jack will be getting a clam and a ride on bike.

Blubber - Jack has a very loose routine...roughly feeds around the same time but as I'm B/F I can manipulate his feeds a bit. He wakes at all hours of the night and day.. I think some babies routine is having no routine, if that makes sense

ME - Bad day...Jack screamed for an hour. Only thing that helped him was chewing on his teething rusk. I also got some bad news about my grandpa...he's got cancer :crying: :crying: I'm feeling a bit down in the dumps. I'll give live chat a miss tonight girls....hopefully will catch you next week.

mumslilspunks

14-06-2007, 19:23

Jey, dont know what happend in live chat but we have a room now. LOL

*Sparkles*

14-06-2007, 19:54

blubber

14-06-2007, 22:40

SuperFrog

15-06-2007, 02:39

Just letting you know I'll be taking a break for a week or so, R has started to become very unsettled (as I previously posted) so I am not feeling in a very good place right now.

Anyway, Melb girls, I'll be in touch via PM's about the meet and will see you next week at Joanne's.

Hels - I hope you don't feel like you need to hide because you aren't feeling "up". It's been said before, and I'll say it again, feel free to talk about the good and the bad stuff. Or just to vent. No judgements here. :hugs:

Hope to see you at the meet next week. I'm feeling heaps better and should make it this time.

Blubber - you certainly are not insignificant. Before you joined, I think, we had this discussion and realised that everyone feels a bit like this. Sometimes people don't reply to what other people say because they can't relate, or they just want to talk about themselves (me me me!). Please don't feel like it is a personal insult.

All about me me me - DH is sick. I've just been up coughing myself and getting the "flu pack" for him (tissues, throat lozenges, water, panadol, etc.). Liam started to make little noises but seems to have settled again. Not sure if he always makes these noises as they are not loud enough to set off the baby monitor, or if he was just disturbed by me being up. Oh well.

I went to bed around 10pm, which is very early for me. Woke up at what I thought was 6am only to find it was merely 12.30am. Could have sworn I slept for longer! Hope I can get back to sleep again.

JoJoMart

15-06-2007, 08:16

Good morning :wave:

Juz - I love that grumpy photo of Cassidy doing tummy time. Liam's not a huge fan either but getting better.

Lauren - :hugs: sorry to hear about your grandpa being diagnosed with cancer. Will he have treatment that can hopefully help?

Blubber - you're definitely welcome and not at all insignificant........I can only talk for myself but sometimes I can hardly respond at all let alone take note of each persons post but I read them all when I can and try and respond. Please keep posting in this thread.

Hels - I totally understand you wanting to take a break because you're not feeling good........I know exactly how this feels so you're not alone feeling like this that's for sure. Having an unsettled baby is a pain in the **** :banghead: and sometimes everything seems all too hard. Keep posting if/when you feel up to it & it will be great to catch up next week.

Me & Liam......well I've successfully resettled him to sleep after a short nap this morning so I hope to get some zzzzz myself once I've finished typing this.

SuperFrog

15-06-2007, 08:59

Morning lovely ladies!

Few questions to start the day...

Question 1.
At what age do babies roll from their back to their tummy? Liam started rolling from tummy to back a few days ago (yes, he hates tummy time that much!), and I think he isn't far off rolling the other way. He arches his back and pushed off with his feet, but can't quite make the final part of the flip. Ends up contorting himself into a big half-circle. Do babies use rolling to get around? And is it a speedy travel method that I'll have to keep a close eye on?

Question 2.
For those of you with older kids, and breastfed them, I am interested in the path ahead. As Liam is getting stronger, so is his sucking. And is starting to hurt. Like giant plungers... giving giant hickeys. Was just wondering if it is a phase, something I'll get used to, or if I just have to grin and bear it. If it gets worse I can see that it might be the end of our breastfeeding days.

Question 3.
Are hoodies safe? We've been given a few hood tops and I'm always worried that the bottom part of the hood, near his neck, could possibly cover his face. I've also been given a sleeping bag with a hood but haven't used it at night for this reason. Also seems like having the hood off and under his head/neck wouldn't be comfortable for him.

That's it for the inquisition for the moment. Any feedback would be appreciated.

DH is sick but had to go to work today. He has taken my car as it is warmer than his ute, so I am stranded at home for the day. It's freezing out there so I don't mind too much. He's hoping to finish at lunchtime and come home early.

Gotta run before Liam contorts himself around the leg of the coffee table.

LMenz

15-06-2007, 09:12

Lauren - :hugs: sorry to hear about your grandpa being diagnosed with cancer. Will he have treatment that can hopefully help?

Thanks Jo....I don't think they will bother with treatment. He's 86 so I think he's too old for surgery.

When my mum rang and told me I just wanted to cry but felt weird about doing it in front of Jack.....I didn't want to upset him. Is that strange? Has anyone else cried in front of their bubs? What was their reaction?

Last night was the first time in 2 weeks that Jack hasn't woken between 12-1am....I hope it wasn't a fluke. The only things we did differently yesterday was he had an extra nap (only 30 minutes) and he went to sleep without his dummy. Will try the same today.

Anyway were off to the Guns 'n' Roses concert tonight :smiliedance: My first night out since Jack was born. I wonder how I'll cope???? LOL Hopefully he behaves for my mum. I've managed to express 120ml (much to my disgust) just in case he wakes up and is hard to settle.

Speaking of concerts....Are there any Cure fans amoungst us???? I heard yesterday they are coming back to Australia to tour. I'm a bit excited!

Hope everyone has a great day :D

LMenz

15-06-2007, 09:15

As Liam is getting stronger, so is his sucking. And is starting to hurt. Like giant plungers... giving giant hickeys.

:laughing: :laughing: I'm in the same boat, Mon!

Jack also bites me and pinches my boob :eek: I've been threatening him all week with the bottle.....

LMenz

15-06-2007, 09:55

Triple post here BUT.....

JACK IS OFFICIALLY
4 MONTHS OLD
:yelclap: TODAY :yelclap:

my_lot

15-06-2007, 10:40

mon- no i wouldnt use a hoodie for sleeping- maybe in the push chair if its cold out but nope not in bed and not at night.

and i have a vac here too! and he gets so cranky waiting for the let down and then wont wait for a second. hes done with both sides in about 10 minutes! and he bites me when hes done! i cant wean him- he will end up on a drip..so hed better not get worse!

the biting was what made me stop feeding another one of my kids..when you see the blood in their mouth its something youll never forget!

lauren have fun at the concert..we are going to see "sound of music" HA HA i know! but dp thought it would be nice for the girls to see.

jojo mart how long is the biggest sleep liam does in the day?

blubber- blubber who?? :laughing: im kidding! i love reading your posts about your girls!

blubber

15-06-2007, 11:39

Thanks Jo....I don't think they will bother with treatment. He's 86 so I think he's too old for surgery.

When my mum rang and told me I just wanted to cry but felt weird about doing it in front of Jack.....I didn't want to upset him. Is that strange? Has anyone else cried in front of their bubs? What was their reaction?

Last night was the first time in 2 weeks that Jack hasn't woken between 12-1am....I hope it wasn't a fluke. The only things we did differently yesterday was he had an extra nap (only 30 minutes) and he went to sleep without his dummy. Will try the same today.

Anyway were off to the Guns 'n' Roses concert tonight :smiliedance: My first night out since Jack was born. I wonder how I'll cope???? LOL Hopefully he behaves for my mum. I've managed to express 120ml (much to my disgust) just in case he wakes up and is hard to settle.

Speaking of concerts....Are there any Cure fans amoungst us???? I heard yesterday they are coming back to Australia to tour. I'm a bit excited!

Hope everyone has a great day :D

Felt exactly the same when i had that news of my Grandma 10 years ago. I think it instantly throws life up in your face.

I have been caught a few times with tears in my eyes with Mia. It really was something that i tried to hide particulaly when they understand your upset. Although in saying that it shows them that we too get sad and it is ok to express your emotions. If the woman in my family are anything to go by the girls have no luck. We all cry at anything.

So jealous about Guns N' Roses. Appetite for Destruction is still one of my favourite albums. The bonus is a night out, enjoy. DH and i had a chance for one of them tonight but our only babysitter opportunity has decided to leave town for the weekend. Oh well might get a chance when Xmas arrives!!

Am also a huge Cure fan, wonder if they will come to Broken Hill?

Morning lovely ladies!

Few questions to start the day...

Question 1.
At what age do babies roll from their back to their tummy? Liam started rolling from tummy to back a few days ago (yes, he hates tummy time that much!), and I think he isn't far off rolling the other way. He arches his back and pushed off with his feet, but can't quite make the final part of the flip. Ends up contorting himself into a big half-circle. Do babies use rolling to get around? And is it a speedy travel method that I'll have to keep a close eye on?

Question 2.
For those of you with older kids, and breastfed them, I am interested in the path ahead. As Liam is getting stronger, so is his sucking. And is starting to hurt. Like giant plungers... giving giant hickeys. Was just wondering if it is a phase, something I'll get used to, or if I just have to grin and bear it. If it gets worse I can see that it might be the end of our breastfeeding days.

Question 3.
Are hoodies safe? We've been given a few hood tops and I'm always worried that the bottom part of the hood, near his neck, could possibly cover his face. I've also been given a sleeping bag with a hood but haven't used it at night for this reason. Also seems like having the hood off and under his head/neck wouldn't be comfortable for him.

That's it for the inquisition for the moment. Any feedback would be appreciated.

DH is sick but had to go to work today. He has taken my car as it is warmer than his ute, so I am stranded at home for the day. It's freezing out there so I don't mind too much. He's hoping to finish at lunchtime and come home early.

Gotta run before Liam contorts himself around the leg of the coffee table.

Q1) It so varies, Mia never rolled yet i have seen other bubs go from one end of a room to the other. Funny when they can't go the other way and end up under the curtain!!

Q2) Not BF here but Elly is so frustrated trying to hold her bottle when feeding. Can take forever some dasy to have one.

Q3) always worry about things on their head. You just have to be cautious.

JoJoMart

15-06-2007, 11:53

My_lot - a couple of weeks ago Liam would sleep for 45 minutes in the morning around 9am to 9:45am then have a longer sleep of 2 hours around 12-2pm. He then might have another short nap in the late avo before his bath and feed around 6pm. Lately he's been cat napping.....today had a 45 min sleep in the morning and went down at 12 and woke again at 12:30 but I've resettled him hopefully for a longer sleep now. Yesterday he had just two sleeps half hour each. Not good for me with a bad cold :no:

Lauren - have fun at the Guns n Roses concert tonight. I remember those days of listening to them blaring on my car stereo (this is back in Perth)........my DH also loves them.
:party: Happy 4 month birthday Jack

Mon - Liam has rolled once or twice but that's it. He hates tummy time but will do it for a while before getting frustrated and crying. I agree with Blubber about the hoodies.....probably best to only wear a hoodie when you can keep an eye on Liam and not to bed.

I'm off to crash on the couch :sleeping:

harleyq

15-06-2007, 14:40

Question 2.
For those of you with older kids, and breastfed them, I am interested in the path ahead. As Liam is getting stronger, so is his sucking. And is starting to hurt. Like giant plungers... giving giant hickeys. Was just wondering if it is a phase, something I'll get used to, or if I just have to grin and bear it. If it gets worse I can see that it might be the end of our breastfeeding days.

Question 3.
Are hoodies safe?
You crack me up Mon -- l like the plunger analogy - yeah my boobs are starting to feel like they have been sucked dry a bit by the end of the feed too...
I'd say no to the hoodie at night... but during the day hooded tops are okay l would have thought...

happybirthday Jack!!! And have a wonderful time at the concert tonight!!!

Yuck - coen has just done a massive fart and stunk out the whole room - me thinks there has been follow through - better go before we need to evacuate!!!

harleyq

15-06-2007, 16:22

SuperFrog

15-06-2007, 16:56

Well since nobody else is doing any talking - l thought l might... there was follow through before and it reeked!!!

Coen and l have had a good day - although at the moment l find myself doing everything to avoid being at home alone with him for hours on end - is anybody else doing this???

I am looking forward to a relaxing weekend... I got my appt. with a pelvic floor physio (for next Tuesday) so hopefully l am going to get this prolapsed uterus under control :fingerscrossed: for me please... what else, l saw Olivia today (my cousins baby - 9 weeks this) geez shes grown - but she still looks so tiny in comparison to Coen...
I think l am waffling a bit so perhaps l should go - l'm tired and want some company... insert stomping feet here :D
Have a great night tonight - l think l am going to cuddle up with my DH with a nice bottle of wine (yummmmm) it certainly seems to be getting cold again here tonight... Mon l hope that insulation is coming soon

I hear you Sandy. I'm finding it hard entertaining Liam during the day. I've got a bouncer/rocker thing that I put him in when I'm trying to do housework and he isn't asleep, but he seems to cry a lot in it... until I pay him some attention of course! I think it will be easier when he can sit up. He's not content just to lie back anymore (and probably won't be until he is a teenager!).

Fingers crossed for your doc appointment. Us Fab Feb Gals are in the wars hey?

Wish I had some company too. DH came home from work early as he is sick, so he is currently asleep. Liam is having another micro-nap and will be wanting a snack soon. It will be feed number 4 for the day. Too early for him to go down to sleep for the night, but feed number 5 won't be until 9.30ish now. Just can't seem to work these times well.

I really should be vacuuming or doing something productive, but I don't want to wake my sick boys. Will just ramble on here instead.

For some reason the F key on my laptop isn't working well. I have to press it harder than the others. So I'm always going back to fix the spelling of words. Otherwise all o my sentences would be unny, aulty, lawed, rightening and a iasco!

ziggy29

15-06-2007, 17:38

OMG. i do not want to relive the 15th again. i am so tired.

Everything was going well last night after chat (or so i thought). as you know lily had her injections yesterday. well about 2 am she woke up whinging (usually sleeps through) and she was so hot. i took her temp and it was 39.1 deg. tried panadol and stripped her down and wiped with a damp cloth but her temp wouldnt come down . we called the 13 HEALTH line and they wanted us to take her to A&E just to be sure as her temp was quite high. so up we go to hospital - everything checked out - just a reaction to the needles!! they brought her temp down with nurofen - i will have to remember to get some. got home fed her and all in bed by 430am.

now this would have been no issue apart from the fact that today was my first day back at work!!! i m so tired now. i only worked 4 hours but through in traffic and it was 6 hours away from lily. she is all out of wack - my milk is all over the shop and i feel wrecked.

i was really looking foward to work and i feel like everytime i look foward to something it ends up all screwed up.

i really admire women who work and continue to breast feed (and express at work etc). me and dh are going to sit down and review the finances because although i always planned to go back to regaular PT work soon i think i want to have the rest of the year off.

ziggy29

15-06-2007, 17:46

Juzzy - how is cassidy today?

Lmenz - good work on the sleeping jack . have fun tonight. happy birthday jack, apparently babies smile the most at 4 months than at any other age before 18 months so enjoy it

blubber - hello. why dont you come to live chat one time. about 830 tues and thurs nights. it is a great way to catch up with lots of the others and no feel left out.

sandy - good luck with the physio. i ll be keeping my legs crossed for you. lol

shelby - glad olivia is sleeping so much better. good job mum :thumbsup:

re:development - lil will roll to her side only. she goos and smiles but i am still waiting for a giggle. is anyone else still waiting for a giggle?

harleyq

15-06-2007, 19:07

Thanks for the good wishes gals...
Sharon - What an awful scare you had... did they say why panadol didn't work and neurofen did? Thanks for sharing the story - poor Lily!!! Was she okay today??? Errrggh what a day to go back to work - l hope you can do the sums so you are able to stay at home longer...

juzzy

15-06-2007, 19:48

Juzzy - how is cassidy today?

re:development - lil will roll to her side only. she goos and smiles but i am still waiting for a giggle. is anyone else still waiting for a giggle?

Cassidy is fine today, almost back to her normal self. Hasnt slept much though, normally sleeps 10 or so hours at night but only slept for 6 and it was a fight to keep her in bed for that long. Was up at 6, we put her in our bed and she didnt sleep until 9 and that was only for 30 mins. She slept from 3pm until 530 and was then up again. Im buggered so me and cassi are curling up in bed to watch the footy soon (go Hawks! :D ).

As for development, cassidy doesnt roll at all yet (has done it once, but think that was an accident). Cassidy smile, coos and laughs. She has recently developed a really high pitched squeal that can be quite ear piercing.

As for entertainment, i dont really know how to entertain cassidy these days, she doesnt like the swing i bought her but she does like her bouncer a fair bit. I also have a playmat with a overhead playgym thing that she loves. Thats where she spends most of her time

anyway im off, have a good night guys

blubber

15-06-2007, 19:49

my_lot

15-06-2007, 20:04

sh!t ziggy. thats not good. made my hair stick up reading that..(and scares the c@ap out of me more)) my dds reaction to her vax started as a high temp and she had a fit in my arms...

i had a look at the nurofen the other day in the chemist-my friend said its great for teething- buts its for 6 months +. not 2 months + like panadol infant drops.

so thats the infant bottle...no wonder it worked! LOL im kidding they would have given it to her on her weight.

i didnt get it because its ibuprofen and ive had one child have a reaction to an anti-inflammatory drug so ill keep away from that for a while with eli just to be safe...we are managing his teething with his teethers you put in the fridge, rusk sticks, bonjela and this great little thing you put ice chips into (or anything else -like friuits and veg) and close the lid and they can suck on the mesh part and its safe.

did she react to the 2 month shots at all?

juzzy

15-06-2007, 21:28

Am glad that Lily is kinda ok too now Zig, must have scared the hell out of you.

Cassidy had a fever as well but we didnt take her to A&E (probably should have tho in hindsight), panadol seemed to do the trick for us though.

Its a very scary thing to go through however. I was beside myself for a bit there. Feel helpless half the time not knowing what to do to make them happy.

JoJoMart

16-06-2007, 12:57

Sandy - good luck at the physio......I hope your prolapsed uterus will be on the mend soon. I know what you mean about being home all day with bubs and trying to entertain them. It's hard work! All of last week Liam would grissle no matter what I did. He wouldn't sit or lay down anywhere for long and was only happy with me walking around holding him and even that didn't work all the time :no:

Mon - my Liam is the same......doesn't like being in his rocker/swing or on the play mat for too long and will start crying and I also can't wait for him to be able to sit up. It's tiring trying to entertain them sometimes isn't it.

Ziggy & Juz - that is very scary. I've heard that babies can have a reaction at the 4 month injections......is it quite common?

Liam has been much better today.......slept through last night and woke up smiling and laughing (well shreaking!) this morning and is currently asleep but due for a feed soon. He's been in a better mood thank god. It was doing my head in!

Lauren - How was the Guns n Roses concert?

Purplebird

16-06-2007, 13:04

Hi All,

I've had a week off bubhub as I was feeling a bit lazy really and I had a fairly busy week (well, as busy as a baby lets you be, lol). I have missed heaps so I will not even try and catch up with personals (and I won't apologise for that Sandy, lol!!). Big :hugs: to everyone who needs them whether it's because you are ill or bubs have been unwell or unsettled or you have sick family members.

On rolling - Mon - Eloise has not rolled at all yet so I'm n ot sure on that one. I'm convinced she is a bit lazy, lol! I also find it hard to entertain her during the day. When I put her on the floor under her little gym thing I can almost see roll her eyes as if to say 'not this again'. I just invested in a different gym so hopefully I can rotate them and she won't get bored and will play on her own for a while. She likes to sit in her rocker chair especially if she can see me so I tend to plonk her on the kitchen floor in the rocker whilst I'm pottering.

Ziggy - Glad to hear Lily is better now and poor you with the work thing too. Have you decided what to do? I am due to go back in Jan but I'm working on DH to let me stay off longer and then only go back for 2 days. I can't imagine working more than that now. Mind you, at the moment I couldn't even work an hour a week, lol. I can barely function on the sleep I get!

Well, we seem to be going OK and have managed to get the night wakings down to just 2 (at 11.30 for a feed, then at 4.00) which is a vast improvement. I just wish they were at different times so I could have a nice block of unbroken sleep.

Eloise seems to be teething now, she is extra dribbly and chewing on her hands even more-it seemed to start the day of the Melb meet. I thought she was a bit whingy that day so I thought I'd check and there was a hard bit on her gum.

Anyhoo, off to Southland now for a spot of KMart shopping, so hope you are all having a good, quiet, sleep-filled weekend with nice calm bubs! :D

Purplebird

16-06-2007, 13:06

:party: Oooh, that was my 100th post :)

LMenz

16-06-2007, 15:27

Hi Lovely Ladies :wave:

The concert was pretty good.......I'm totally exhausted. The Gunners didn't come on until 11pm and played until after 1am. They were still great even though they are like grandpa's now :laughing: My favorite song was Sweet Child O' Mine....and Paradise City which was the encore song. I felt naughty leaving Jack at home but he went really well with mum. He woke at 1am screaming so she gave him a bottle of EBM instead of trying to settle him. She never even wrapped him properly and he went back to sleep. Why is he so well behaved when I'm not around :confused: He then slept through until 6am...was great not having to do a night feed but my boobs are mightly sore today.

This may sound very weird but I missed him like crazy last night. I checked my phone constantly just to see if mum had called...I had crazy thoughts about something happening to him and I wouldn't be there to comfort him - I think I need to get out on my own more!!!!

Development - Jack can roll from his tummy to back but doesn't do it all the time. He is no where near ready too roll from back to front but is lifting his legs up a lot when he's on the floor. When he does tummy time he's started moving forward a bit using his legs

He talks, giggles and shrieks very loudly too. He gets so worked up with talking some days he won't settle down for his nap

Jack's favorite entertainment at the moment is ME! When he's in his bouncer if I take my eyes off him for a second he screams until I look at him again.......I'm finding it very tiresome!! I also think he has me wrapped around his little finger. What a sucker I am! I did read that at 6 months babies become more interested in objects than people.......

Sandy - I'm finding it hard to stay home too. My days always seems easier if we are out and about. Good Luck with the physio too.

Ziggy - How scary for you! Glad Lily is better now. Jack's needles are next week...I hope he will be ok

Better go....DH is out walking Jack and I'm meant to be doing some jobs (yeah right!) :D

Where's Penny these days??? Are you reading but not replying??

icugal

16-06-2007, 16:25

Where's Penny these days??? Are you reading but not replying??

Sprung !! :D

(Will reply more later..)

LMenz

16-06-2007, 17:54

Sprung !! :D

(Will reply more later..)

gosh I sound like the bubhub police :p

LMenz

16-06-2007, 19:09

Hello..just me yet again!

Safeway have Huggies on sale this week - big box for $31.95

Poor Jack has a blocked nose so we tried to use the fess thingy on him......he hated it!!! screamed blue murder. Managed to get one big booger out.....just thought I'd share that delightful news :laughing:
I'm so tired it's not funny....off to bed I go :sleeping:

*Sparkles*

16-06-2007, 19:09

Hi girls :wave:
I couldn't stay away for too long, well in a nutshell I missed you all :kiss:
I am feeling alot better now but I'm still having a little break from posting alot as I never seem to get anything else done. I'm a self confessed internet/bubhub addict! But I'll keep reading and post updates now and then.

Sandy - I must have missed your post but am I right in thinking you have a prolapsed uterus? :hugs: to you hun I hope things are back to normal soon. I'll chat to you about it on thursday as I'm interested in the types of treatments etc. I'm still pretty convinced that everything of mine is not back to where it should be.

Us - R is still sleeping well and today he woke at 9am. He's been extra hungry over the last few days and he is now almost 5 months old so we started some rice cereal this morning. As you can see from the photo (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Reece/FirstSolids1.jpg) he is not that impressed yet lol. Even so, he still managed to eat it all (one teaspoon full). So we will do the same tomorrow and then I will add some apple puree to make it more appetizing.

I also finally got his new bookshelves delivered, so I had alot of fun putting out all his little toys and things, here's a photo (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Reece/Bookcase1.jpg).

We are off to Target and the shops tomorrow to check out all the sales. I want to get a lightweight stroller for when we go to Noosa in Sept and for use in summer and when he's bigger.

Better go as I am meant to be doing DH's bookwork :shame:
Hope all mums and bubs are doing well.

my_lot

16-06-2007, 20:09

hi everyone.

i saw on the news tonight there are more storms on the coast. hows your place tanya?

hells- the bookshelf is great. we have those little wooden letters too! and the food pic! ha ha. hes not looking really sure of that! Eli just took a lick and opened for more!

after about 20 pics i managed to get one where you can see a tooth! ((though he does have both out of the gum the left one is out more))

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/eliteeth.jpg

SuperFrog

16-06-2007, 21:15

Liam is like the Energiser Bunny tonight. He just keeps going and going and going! DH is trying to tire him out at the moment, but he is getting more tired than Liam is!

I think we'll be starting solids soon. L makes munching movements with his mouth whenever we are eating. I gave him a tiny bit of spag bol sauce on my finger yesterday and he loved it! Was hesitant to give him any more though as it was full of garlic, basil, pepper... probably not on the "first foods" list!

Hopefully solids will mean that he'll ease up on my nipples. They are so sore at the moment. We used to feed for about 10 minutes on each side, but the last two days it has been 10 minutes all up. Does that mean he is sucking twice as hard???

I'm feeling a lot better today, finally. DH doesn't seem to have got it badly either, so hopefully our house will be 100% well again soon.

SuperFrog

16-06-2007, 21:19

Good to see you are still here Hels. :hugs:

Look forward to seeing you and the other Melbourne girls on Thursday. Will make sure my camera is fully charged up this time and will take some pics for everyone else.

Roopee

16-06-2007, 21:45

I havent got time to read back thru the posts that i've missed so there will be no personals from me tonight. Oh and i wont apologise either lol.

I was really sick yesterday...so much so that Dh had to stay home from work and get the kids to school and preschool. I just couldnt do it. He had to look after Bay and Cody too..i slept for about 2 hrs in the afternoon and woke up much better. I was having fevers, chills, body aches, sore throat etc etc so wasnt nice. I rarely get sick and here i am sick twice in a month! Not happy Jan! Went to work today though as im fine now!:smiliedance:

We have had non stp rain for the last 24 hrs but nothing like last weekend Thanks god! That being said though, there are alot of nervous people getting about in Newcastle atm. This place looks like a warzone..peoples wordly possesions all over the footpaths, abandoned cars everywhere still, debris everywhere, branches and trees down all over the place. It looks terrible.
The Central Coast copped it last night again though Kay..how are your parents?? Oh btw...Eli's tooth looks so cute! Gotta love them pics!

Had a bit of a blow up with the MIL last week! She came around on Wednesday to pick up Riley and Baylee for a couple of hours and was straight into me about the backyard. Told me it was such a mess and how can i let the kids play out in that. Usually i just roll my eyes at her and snidley do the "whatever" thing but i just couldn't do it this time. I let fly..telling her of course the yard is a mess, we had 1.5 meters of water flow thru it and that while we had tried numerous times to clean up a bit, well its a bit difficult with 4 kids wanting you while your doing it. I was so angry...the yard just has the stuff from the shed in it, drying out etc and really...the only one who should really be concerned is the dog! She's the one who lives out there lol. Anyway..didnt go over too well...DH got a phone call to be told that they think i have PND as i "flew off the handle". I dont have PND by the way..i just dont take too kindly to being told that i need to clean up FFS.

Anyway..i hope everyone is good big hugs to you all.:hugs:

JoJoMart

17-06-2007, 08:55

Hannah - sounds like Eloise is getting a tooth! Liam has a little one poking through at the top! I was told the bottom ones usually appear first but his is definitely at the top.

Hels - I love your new bookcase........Reece sure has lovely stuff. Doesn't look like he enjoyed the Farex but I'm sure he will get used to it, esp if you add the apple puree. Good luck!

Lauren - it's pretty normal to miss bubs when you are away from them. I need more time away from Liam to recharge my batteries and I'm planning on going to see a movie one weekend with my mum.......I will probably miss Liam like crazy too. Why were the Guns on so late?? Who was the support act that came on first?

Roopee - Hope you start to feel better soon. We have friends in Newcastle too......they're place is okay apparently. Hmmmm your MIL sounds critical.........don't blame you for having a go at her and typical that she suggests you have PND instead of admitting to herself she was to blame!

Mon - glad you & DH are feeling better.....Liam sounds a lot better too.

My_lot - love the photo of Eli's tooth!

Me.......I'm getting over my cold now which is good........Liam is better too.......not as clingy/grissly but he still gets bored easily and needs constant changes of things to do when he's having play time. He has started making grumpy sounds when he gets ****ed off........I'm hoping he won't be a demanding/grumpy child who throws tantrums :eek:.......I'm sure he's just being a normal baby

LMenz

17-06-2007, 09:10

Why were the Guns on so late?? Who was the support act that came on first?

Rose Tattoo came on at 8pm, then Skid Row at 9.30 and then finally the Gunners. I heard they didn't come on until 11.45 in Adelaide so I guess we were lucky

Much too late for me though....I was almost asleep standing up :)

my_lot

17-06-2007, 10:13

so you can see the tooth ok in that pic? thats good...i had about 20 that looked like it in the viewer but on the comp they were kinda shiney spit lips and not a tooth!

im going to take a few of him trying to eat his feet...it still amazes me that hes doing this, i just dont remember the other kids doing that at this age.

tan- my family still have no lights and we have friends that are still in motels. your MIL sounds like shes got something up her ..... what is it with this MIL/ DIL relationship thing? wonder what ill be like to my sons partners... :devil6:

mon- mines the human vac! theres no easing up on nipples here - even with 2 meals of food a day -and its not just the hard sucking- (im ralaxed when hes sucking its when he stops that the trouble starts) he is biting down hard.

last night i told him in my loud mean mummy voice to stop it about 4 times before i put him on the floor. dp said "dont yell at him! -thats not going to help DO something to stop him" - hhhm brightspark i dont know what will stop him from biting me-maybe we should attach his fangs to your body parts and see what ideas you come up with?

i was so hoping he wouldnt cut teeth this early..

Purplebird

17-06-2007, 10:56

mon- mines the human vac! theres no easing up on nipples here - even with 2 meals of food a day -and its not just the hard sucking- (im ralaxed when hes sucking its when he stops that the trouble starts) he is biting down hard.

last night i told him in my loud mean mummy voice to stop it about 4 times before i put him on the floor. dp said "dont yell at him! -thats not going to help DO something to stop him" - hhhm brightspark i dont know what will stop him from biting me-maybe we should attach his fangs to your body parts and see what ideas you come up with?

i was so hoping he wouldnt cut teeth this early..

I'm also getting the biting down now. Think I might try your tip of putting Eloise on the floor. Shouting didn't work - she just smiled at me, lol! Do try attaching Elli to dp by his teeth and take a picture :laughing:

I'm so with you on the DIL/MIL relationship too - they are soo annoying these MILs. I'm not looking forward to seeing mine - thank goodness she's on the other side of the world. Tanya yours sounds like a right pain in the @rse!

Glad to hear you're feeling better Mon. I hope Liam's batteries wore out and he gave you a good night's sleep in the end.

Lauren - lol at the booger thing! Sounds like Jack is still giving you a hard time in the sleep department? I'm enjoying the fact it's the weekend as DH is in charge of all of Eloise's day time naps so I get a break from the frustration of trying to get her to sleep, yay!

Roopee

17-06-2007, 20:33

Wow!!! Its quiet in here today!!!!

So how was everyones weekend? We didnt do too much- i worked yesterday- and today we went to the pub and won three meat trays:yelclap: so there the weeks meat taken care of!

Purplebird- hope you got away from doing the day time nap thing today..

Mon- glad your feeling better..

Hels- glad you couldnt stay away!

My_Lot-please please do it! Attatch Eli and see how fast he finds a solution! Be a record i bet!

Us- Cody has to see an eye specialist. Her blocked tear duct has gotten worse and massage and drops have not worked..considering its been going on for so long now..we are seeing a specialist..who may un block it by putting her under a general and inserting some kind of needle. I also have to see a paediatrician in regards to her head. Thats in a couple of weeks. So the poor bubba is in the wars atm.:gloomy:
My DS1 has to go back and have grommetts put back in his ears and a tonsilectomy..we find out when in 4 weeks but the other two are healthy! God its so much to worry about.
Sometimes you wonder hwat you ever did wrong but i guess some people have it alot worse so i shouldnt complain i guess.

Anyway..hope everyone had a good weekend:hugs:

SuperFrog

17-06-2007, 21:41

Us- Cody has to see an eye specialist. Her blocked tear duct has gotten worse and massage and drops have not worked..considering its been going on for so long now..we are seeing a specialist..who may un block it by putting her under a general and inserting some kind of needle. I also have to see a paediatrician in regards to her head. Thats in a couple of weeks. So the poor bubba is in the wars atm.:gloomy:

I think we may be in the same situation here. One of Liam's eyes is so goopy, especially in the morning. The doctor wouldn't prescribe any medication for it until he is 8 months old, and mentioned the possibility of draining it under a general when he is older (I'm in denial about this though...). What drops are you using? Am going back to the paediatrician as a check-up on Liam's collar bone in a few weeks, so I'll be talking to him about it then.

Last night around 3am my spidey-sense started tingling so I got up to check Liam. When I walked into his room I started to panic as I realised how hot it was. I had turned the central heating on in part of the house but mucked up the auto turn off feature. Because our new bedroom doesn't have insulation yet it is much colder in there and the heating is pointless so I don't turn it on in there... so I can't tell how hot the rest of the house is. Anyway, the baby monitor indicated that the temp was 28 degrees in his room! He was fast asleep and not too hot. I hesitate to think what would have happened if I hadn't got up to check him. Lesson learned. Big time.

Lately a heap of weird mushrooms have grown in our front garden. Some look normal enough (although I would NEVER eat them), but others are yellow with funky spots... icky! I've just spent about 20 minutes pulling them all out (wearing gloves) as the garbage is collected tomorrow morning. I'm so scared that a neighbourhood kid is going to eat one. I filled a plastic shopping bag full to the brim, and I'm sure there are probably more that I missed. If someone did eat one and something happened, would I be held legally responsible??

I'm heading into my work tomorrow for an all-staff briefing. The company got bought out by a rival company, so we'll all find out what is happening. I'm hoping they are going to honour my maternity leave contract. I got 6 weeks full pay, and was entitled to another 6 weeks full pay if I return to work. They changed it just before I went on leave as they were trying to encourage people to return to their job.

Has anyone got one of those walker play things for their bub? Liam is frustrated that he can't sit up so we went looking for something today. We tried some out in the shop and he LOVED it! A bit pricey for the few months that he'll get use out of it, but it might be worth it. Not sure if he would get more use out of one that has a base that rocks, which encourages balance development, or one on wheels so he can walk around with it once his feet can touch the ground.

I could keep yabbering, but I suppose I should let other people get a few words in. :ecomcity:

LMenz

18-06-2007, 09:43

Morning Ladies :wave:

Hope everyone had a good weekend. Good news here my results are back and it's just scar tissue - nothing bad. Gave me a bit of a fright though.

I'm off to have lunch with my Mothers Group today....

How bad was the shooting in Melbourne CBD this morning. So scary!

blubber

18-06-2007, 10:00

Morning all, bloody freezing here still..

Elly has mucky eyes as well and i had read about the surgery thing they can have at around 12months. I have been wiping away the goo with a warm cotton ball. Doctor didn't prescribe anything but it must be so annoying.

Mon: Mia DD1 had a walker and she used it so much, far more than a few months. We had a great area for her to cruise around in. Some people think it hinders their walking ability but i think that it is a load sh*t. She walked at 14months had great balance and hardly ever fell over.

Catch up day today after being away over the weekend. DH won't be home until late so just me and the girls.

"mum are you ready to play yet, have you finished on the computer"..

"...yes Mia i'm coming"

Have a good one.

*Sparkles*

18-06-2007, 10:06

Mon - I am in 2 minds about a walker as I have heard to stay away from them as they can actually hinder bub's development. So I don't know what to think :confused: Anyone else have any info on them?

We went shopping yesterday and bought R a lightweight stroller. We got one on special for $129 from Baby Bunting in the sales. It is a Steelcraft (same as our Strider pram). I really like that brand and think they are good value for money. This stroller weighs only 7 kgs and folds down easily. We will use it when we go to Noosa, during the summer and when we have our Melb meets as I need something smaller.

I'm going back to the shops today as we ran out of time yesterday and I want to go to Target. Reece is still asleep, he took 2 hours to settle last night so he didn't finally go off to sleep until 1am :eek:

Blubber - We posted at the same time, so thanks for your comments on the walker.

SuperFrog

18-06-2007, 10:06

Glad to hear everything is okay Lauren. Enjoy your mother's group!

I was supposed to head into the city this morning but because of the shooting, and the bad weather, I have decided to give it a miss. Scary stuff.

Breastfeeding is awful at the moment. I feel like I have regressed back to the first few days where it was really painful. Pulled out the Lansinoh again, and because of the cold weather it is rock solid! Completely different to when I was last using it in summer.

SuperFrog

18-06-2007, 10:13

Gee... everyone posted at once!

Not sure about the walker still. I really need something that L can sit up in and entertain himself. He's not content to just lay down and play, and his rocker seat isn't going to entertain him for much longer as he is frustrated that he can't sit up. Anything else besides a walker that might work?

Roopee

18-06-2007, 12:23

superfrog- the eye drops are called chloromycetin.They cleared one eye in no time but the left eye just wont clear. I really feel for her, it cant be comfortable with a constantly teary eye and green muck in it that i wipe out at least 6 times a day.
Lmenz- thats great news!! Bet your relieved!

re-walkers. I had one too and while it was great to entertain the kids for a few minutes at a time you really need to be carefull. If you have any stairs anywhere dont buy one. As for hindering walking..well all mine have walked at 10-12 mths, all were walking by their first b'day so i dont think it hinders that. Its more the danger aspects of it. Once your baby is mobile, lots of things are now within their reach, hot drinks, oven etc etc.

You can get ones now that the wheels retract when it goes over rough or uneven surface so it wont roll, some have it so they dont go backwards so makes it harder to move and some have some corrugated rubber on the bottom which acts as stopper. Hope that all made sense.

There is another option though....and these are great....its like a walker but it has no wheels so the kids cant go anywhere. Its a big round plastic thing that the kids sits in and theres toys all around it. Its on a base and can turn 360 degrees and rock slighlty but not actually move anywhere. Im not sure who makes it...maybe Fisher Price??? There are quite a few different ones out now.
These are a great alternative if your not sure on a walker.
Hope that helped.

EskimoMumma

18-06-2007, 12:27

re-walkers. You can get ones now that the wheels retract when it goes over rough or uneven surface so it wont roll, some have it so they dont go backwards so makes it harder to move and some have some corrugated rubber on the bottom which acts as stopper. Hope that all made sense.

There is another option though....and these are great....its like a walker but it has no wheels so the kids cant go anywhere. Its a big round plastic thing that the kids sits in and theres toys all around it. Its on a base and can turn 360 degrees and rock slighlty but not actually move anywhere. Im not sure who makes it...maybe Fisher Price??? There are quite a few different ones out now.
These are a great alternative if your not sure on a walker.
Hope that helped.

Exersaucers. I'd recommend those for sure! My friend had one for her DD2, she went around in circles in it for awhile before she was walking.

Roopee

18-06-2007, 12:50

Awwww thats them Heather! Thanks heaps for that!
How you going girl anyway??? Hows the not smoking doing?:hugs:

EskimoMumma

18-06-2007, 12:53

No problem.

Thanks for caring :hugs: ;)

The girls are going well. Caitlinn has two teeth coming through, and rolling alot. Mary is doing fantastically, slowly starting to walk, yay! Me, well i could be better.

Miscarrying is such a long process and really sucks big time. :thumbsdown:

But on a good note my Dad is here and its fantastic having him around again. Wish it could have been sooner then 13 years, but I try not to think about that. I hope cody can start improving, i know she will be fine, shes in great hands with you.

SuperFrog

18-06-2007, 12:59

Help! I don't know how to entertain Liam anymore. He cries if he can't see me, and wants me to pick him up all the time. The days seem so long at the moment, and he is only sleeping in 20 bursts between feeds. Ideas???

Roopee

18-06-2007, 13:04

Roopee

18-06-2007, 13:05

Have some of these heather..you sound so low hun:hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs:. If theres aything i cn do let me know mate!

icugal

18-06-2007, 13:09

Re: Walkers.

When my MCHN did my home visit when Kaelan was 4 days old, she gave me a brochure that she went through about child safety. The brochure was produced by "Kidsafe - Child Accident Prevention Foundation of Australia. In this brochure it says that the use of walkers is not recommended because of the high rate of injuries that they cause every year. As if to make her point stronger, my MCHN got her pen and repeatedly drew a big cross through the picture of the walker. I remember she looked at me in the eyes, and said to me "Please promise me that you will NEVER use a walker".

Being a nurse who's had some exposure to kids wards over the years... and have seen such accidents from these devices.. I can assure you now that my son will never go in a walker. I had already decided that before discussing it with my MCHN.

So to those of you considering using them... please think long and hard about them because they are VERY DANGEROUS !!

icugal

18-06-2007, 13:27

I've just Googled baby walkers... here are some links for your consideration.

Dangers of Baby Walkers (http://vtvt.essortment.com/babywalkersdan_rvun.htm)

Safety:Baby Walkers (http://www.cyh.com/HealthTopics/HealthTopicDetails.aspx?p=114&np=305&id=2419)

CHOICE - Ten things not to buy your child (http://www.choice.com.au/viewArticle.aspx?id=105335&catId=100512&tid=100008&p=1&title=Ten+things+not+to+buy+your+kids#walkers)

Child Injury Data - NSW Health (http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/public-health/health-promotion/injury-prevention/at-risk-groups/babysummary.pdf)

SuperFrog

18-06-2007, 13:29

What about the exersaucers that Roopee and EskimoMumma mentioned? Safe?

Lukeandmattsmum

18-06-2007, 13:55

Hi Mon

Matt has been like this for a couple of weeks now. It is driving me insane. He is usually at his worst at at dinner time. Last night i pulled out my walker and cleaned it up to see how he would go. He loved it.
I know there have been lots of negatives on walkers but i think if you are carefull and use it supervised then there shouldn't be a problem. Matthew is very determined to be upright and as i don't have a jolly jumper this was the next best thing. I have polished floors and no stairs so there is no danger there, but if i had internal stairs i would think again. Now i just have to convince my 2 yr old that it is not for him :laughing: I generally only use it for short periods where i need to wash up or fold washing etc. And i can supervise him and he is happy sitting watching me.

Here is a pic of him enjoying himself. The walker is pretty old, but i just laybyed one for him today in target it was $45 half price. And it plays music and flashes lights.

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u260/k_cliff1/DSC00078.jpg

blubber

18-06-2007, 14:29

Walkers: it certainly has generated some discussion. So hard when we all get different opinions and had various experiences. I was always cautious when Mia was in her ans will dothe same with Elly. Like most things do what makes you feeel comfortable.

Ok...Elly sounds like she has lost her voice. So beyond throwing a strepsil in her thoat anyone know what can be done?

Also over the pat four or so days she has been drinking more (Karicare AR), would this casue consitpation?? I seriously thought se was going to burst pushing it out.

mumslilspunks

18-06-2007, 14:38

Yep...get a jolly jumper! Kids love em and they can see you all the time!:hugs:
Billy has been in his for about a week now and it really is a god sent!! He also is hard to entertain and he hates tummy time and doesnt really like lying down. He is such a sticky beak and has to know whats going on!!

Hi Mon

Matt has been like this for a couple of weeks now. It is driving me insane. He is usually at his worst at at dinner time. Last night i pulled out my walker and cleaned it up to see how he would go. He loved it.
IHere is a pic of him enjoying himself. The walker is pretty old, but i just laybyed one for him today in target it was $45 half price. And it plays music and flashes lights.

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What a gorgeous photo. As said before Billy is also in his already. Just like my 2 year old, he saw it and wanted to get in it aswell.

Thanks for the information Penny its good to hear it from every angle that way people who want to know about them is getting the proper advice and make there own minds wether ot not they want to use them for their own child.

Billy has been a nightmare the last 2 nights. Started waking every 3hrs again :banghead: Instead of just being for the dummy its for a bottle.

HUGE :hugs: :hugs: Heather!!
Kay- love the photo of Eli and he's teethy pegs.
Bugger both boys have woken be back.....

mumslilspunks

18-06-2007, 14:59

Sorry for the double post but here's Billy in his jolly jumper:
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j262/mumslilspunk/Jacksfirsthunt035.jpg
Sorry juzzy couldnt find the thing that you mentioned to change the name of the link. lol:detective:

ziggy29

18-06-2007, 16:52

I am a bit late but just wanted to add my 2 cents about baby walkers.

From a developmental point of view they do not acceleate development or walking ability. this is because babies sit in them and use there heels to pull themselves foward (a bit like if we were pulling ourselves around on a rolling office chair). also there have been some cases of jolly jumpers being linked to abnormal walking patterns due to tight calf muscles and kids walking on their tippy toes because of this.

But i think these developmental problems are the extremes - usually when well meaning parents leave their kids in these devices because they think it is good for them. A variety of postures and safe, supervised activities can only be beneficial to development.

Personally we dont have the space for a walker or jolly jumper. i am going to buy a swing for the patio soon and i am quite keen on those spinning activity stations. it seems like these will grow with the bubs and also be suitable when they are learning to stand bythemselves.

as far as any other ways to keep them entertained - i have a little pram inside the house that i take lily with me to do whereever i am and she can play in that and watch me. also if i get sick of carrying i put her face foward in the baby bjorn and she is quite happy chewing on it as we go about out day. trying solids is also a fun way to fill in 20 minutes (not so fun is the cleaning up).

LMenz

18-06-2007, 17:53

Also over the pat four or so days she has been drinking more (Karicare AR), would this casue consitpation?? I seriously thought se was going to burst pushing it out.

Blubber, someone in my Mothers Group said today that that formula can cause constipation so maybe? It's hard not to laugh when they grunt away :laughing:

Jack's very hard to entertain these days also. I've been roatating his toys a bit.....not sure if it helps.

Might try the Jolly Jumper soon too. We changed his pram over on the weekend so he is sitting up more. He seems a lot happier. Today at Mother's Group he sat in it happily for a hour and just looked around. I might give Ziggy's idea a go and wheel him around the house in it :thumbsup:

He's finally gone down for the night.......he was very overtired. Last night he slept 6.30-3.00am so his nights are slowly improving again

I'm seriously considering giving him farex this week. DH want's me to hold off as we have asthma in the family but Jack's showing all the signs of wanting food - he watches me eat, opens his mouth when food is near and leans forward into it. Not sure how much longer I can hold off for???? The allergy thing is really bothering me though......don't know what to do :confused:

icugal

18-06-2007, 18:23

Lauren - I read just a few days ago that starting solids before 6 months and the connection to increased risk of allergies has recently been disproved... much like the autism/vaccination theories. I read it in either one of the Parenting magazines I buy or in my 'baby bible'... I can't remember which.

Unfortunately I can't provide any concrete references to support this claim... so you can all feel free to go to town on what I've written.

(For the record, I'm choosing to err on the side of caution and am holding off with solids for as long as I can - Kaelan only has the occasional bit of Farex if he is particularly unsettled).

LMenz

18-06-2007, 19:02

Lauren - I read just a few days ago that starting solids before 6 months and the connection to increased risk of allergies has recently been disproved...

Thanks for that Penny. I might do some research :detective:

my_lot

18-06-2007, 19:43

Lauren - I read just a few days ago that starting solids before 6 months and the connection to increased risk of allergies has recently been disproved...
.

i read the same thing....and ive just gone to find it to share on here.

thats life magazine issue 24 - page 39-

"to feed or not to feed?"

most mums have heard that feeding solids to infants before 6 months of age can increase the risk of allergies, asthma and eczema. But what do you do if your baby is obviously ready for solids? Take heart. A five year UK study recently found asthma and eczma are notassociated with eating solids at an early age. So let your baby guide you! If theyre interested in food able to push it to the back of their throat and can sit up supported, then it should be fine.

hhhmm that just makes me wonder how many people were stupid enough to feed a 4 or 5 month old baby anything that is a high allergy food?

walkers- we wont be having one. we have gated off the tiled area because its the kitchen, laundry, bathroom hall also we have internal stairs there- even with a metal door gate im just not taking the risk with a walker and its not going to move far on carpet!

jolly jumper- nope not getting one of those either. no door frames to hook it to thats close to the living area and i dont really want the frame in the lounge or family room....also...im not in any hurry to make him move!

i keep telling dp not to make him stand up on his lap holding his hands- he is 4 months old! my brother would have had a cow seeing dp do that- they still scooped their son up, supporting his head, out of the cot when he was 12 months old! and i know we never did that with the first baby- how is it you get to the 4th (well his 5th) and then think its ok? nooo. i dont want him walking at 8 or 9 months! not going to be doing anything to make those legs strong- he can do it all when hes good and ready!

i am alo having trouble keeping him happy. i am making him an activity mat at the moment and when im done i will re-cover the old tent frame (dont waste money on one of these- the plastic rips!- the new pop up styles are much better!) and use the fisher price crawl through tent thingy (the one he hates being under!) as a doorway to the tent...fun crawling activity....

anyone else got a toothy bub or just me?

anyone read anything on caring for first teeth? i cant remember what i did for them this young..i know when ds got his we waited til the tooth was all the way through (so about 2-3 weeks after it cut) and we used a little silicone brush that went on my finger **wonders if you can still buy them*** but he was 9 months by then so a bit easier that 4-5 months.

icugal

18-06-2007, 20:10

i read the same thing....and ive just gone to find it to share on here.

thats life magazine issue 24 - page 39-

"to feed or not to feed?"

most mums have heard that feeding solids to infants before 6 months of age can increase the risk of allergies, asthma and eczema. But what do you do if your baby is obviously ready for solids? Take heart. A five year UK study recently found asthma and eczma are notassociated with eating solids at an early age. So let your baby guide you! If theyre interested in food able to push it to the back of their throat and can sit up supported, then it should be fine.

I know I didn't read it in "That's Life" magazine (I don't buy it)... but good to see that I didn't imagine reading it somewhere recently. It's obviously been published across a few different magazines... although I'm not sure I'd consider "That's Life" a bonefide source of child rearing advice :D

LMenz

18-06-2007, 20:13

"to feed or not to feed?"

most mums have heard that feeding solids to infants before 6 months of age can increase the risk of allergies, asthma and eczema. But what do you do if your baby is obviously ready for solids? Take heart. A five year UK study recently found asthma and eczma are notassociated with eating solids at an early age. So let your baby guide you! If theyre interested in food able to push it to the back of their throat and can sit up supported, then it should be fine.

Thanks Kay :thumbsup:

No teeth here BUT I don't think they are very far away........Jack was Mr Cranky pants again today. The only thing that would stop him grizzling was me rubbing his gums

harleyq

18-06-2007, 20:14

Lauren - Congratulations about for the test results! glad you enjoyed G&R, how was Skid Row - l didn't even know they were still together - l used to love them... did they play 18 & life???
On Jack & solids, is Jack still poking out his tongue???? Our MCHN said that when this stops and they are doing all the other things you mentioned then they are ready to try solids... she also said that they say 6 months as a guide for solids these days because in times gone by when it used to be 4 months people would, regardless of whether their baby was ready, at 4 months feed their babies solids... now although the guidelines say 6 months, they do say anytime between 4 & 6 months (dependent on the child) is the right time... l am not sure what that means from an allergy/asthma perspective though... - Like Penny though, for the record l am holding off for as long as possible...

Kay - biting down is my nightmare - l don't think l should admit this cos it will probably come back to bit me on the a$$, but Coen did it for awhile and has seemed to stop -- l hope he doesn't take it up again :fingerscrossed: - sick Eli onto DP... he deserves it with those comments!

On teethcare - wipe with a soft cloth is what l was told...

Tanya - :hugs: to the kids.... poor things! And good on you for putting your MIL back in her box - who in their right mind would say something like that - bet she didn't offer to roll up her sleeves and pitch in!

Mon - glad to hear your all doing better, how did the briefing at work go?

Is anybody elses baby trying to sit up when they are in the swing or bouncer??? Coen has just started doing it this last week...

Congratulations to Caitlinn on her two new teeth! :hugs: to you Heather, it must be incredible spending time with your dad after so long!

Kylie - Matthew certainly does look happy in his walker (and incidentally doesn't seem to realise its old fashioned...)

Us - I feel like l am in the wars a bit at the moment - my body feels like it is falling apart - but I am going to Physio tomorrow (pelvic floor specialist, and normal physio) so hopefully we will get things sorted out soon...

Like many of you l am really struggling to entertain Coen - l won't be going down the path of a walker, but have already purchased a jolly jumper type thing and might break that out very very soon... I really just can't be carrying Coen around all day, my neck, shoulders and back just can't take it!

Cracked it with DH yesterday, his parents hadn't seen Coen all week (their fault not our) so l suggested he take Coen to see them - he wanted me to go to, but l didn't want to - l just wanted to stay home, l wanted to make a rissotto and just have some quiet time to myself - and l really really didn't think l could cope with her disparraging remarks after the week l had had - anyway DH accused me of making everything difficult - so we had a stand off - l said l would come and he said he didn't want me to... l ended up going - and it was okay - but l really just would have preferred some me time - why don't they get that??? I don't ask him to spend time with my mum when she comes over - yet when we go to his parents he goes off into the garage or to the computer and leaves me alone with HER!!! -- sorry another whinge - l've had a headache for the last week so l am not the most pleasant person to be around just now -- hope you are all having a good week! Please :fingerscrossed: for me at the PV Physio tomorrow - l am sooooo hoping she will have a secret fix all solution!

Hope all bubs are sleeping soundly

harleyq

18-06-2007, 20:16

I know I didn't read it in "That's Life" magazine (I don't buy it)... but good to see that I didn't imagine reading it somewhere recently. It's obviously been published across a few different magazines... although I'm not sure I'd consider "That's Life" a bonefide source of child rearing advice :D

Somebody posted a link to it in here (there father had sent it to them) it was basically an article reporting that the link to holding off on solids and reduction of risk for allergies was false... but that study has since been questioned as it was only on children who were predisposed to allergies (family history etc.)... but it sounds like there has been other studies in the UK....

mumslilspunks

18-06-2007, 20:17

Hi Kay i was told my the MHCN to use a wet flannel and just rub it over the tooth. I also used those finger brushes you can get from the chemist with ds1 but he was alot older.
Tanya- you know how you replyed (sp) to my other thread about me not taliking to brother and his fu$#ed up wife, well they just told my parents that they are due in Feb..:banghead: I just know she planned it this way. If it wasnt going to be Feb i bet you it would have been April.. (ds1 Bday):mad:

mumslilspunks

18-06-2007, 20:20

WOW a heap of us posted around the same time.(well a few minutes apart) LOL

LMenz

18-06-2007, 20:24

Lauren - Congratulations about for the test results! glad you enjoyed G&R, how was Skid Row - l didn't even know they were still together - l used to love them... did they play 18 & life???
On Jack & solids, is Jack still poking out his tongue????

Thanks Sandy......Skid Row were pretty good. They are sooo old though. Sebastion Bach wore skin tight leather pants and his shirt was undone to his belly button :laughing: He still has really long hair too. Not sure if they played that song...I can't remeber the names of them (baby brain! lol) They have a new album out apparently.

I haven't noticed if he's poking his tongue out still....he tried to lick my sandwich yesterday. I put an empty spoon in his mouth and he opened up wide and tried to eat it :p

Roopee

18-06-2007, 20:27

my_lot- in regards to looking after the teeth-you can either just get a soft baby toothbrush (in coles or woolies) Colgate...i think...sell them in stages? So you can buy them and change as bubba does if that makes sense? ALSO if you look in the section for looking after your teeth in the shop near all the denture stuff they have some brushes that are a two pack One is a proper toothbrush and the other is a rubbery thingy with ummmm pimples? on it. You could just rub that over them.
Cooper got his first tooth early and i pretty much just left it alone though..gave it the odd brush with water every now nd them. He used to just clamp down on the toothbrush anyway...and if my suspicions on Eli are correct then i expect he will do the same LOL...like to make life hard.:rolleyes:

I have read the same study in the same magazine..how funny is that...we are more alike than we think lol. I also remeber reading it somewhere else too..cant rememer where.
I have not waited till the 6 mth mark for any of mine..they have all wanted their solids early and who am i to argue with a hungry baby.

Oh and in my post earlier re the walkers..i hope it didnt sound like i was saying they promote early walking..i was trying to say that it doesnt necessarily delay their development..i wasnt saying it would accelerate it. I hope that made sense lol.
Talk later xxoo

LMenz

18-06-2007, 20:29

oops forgot to say...Sandy hope all goes well tomorrow :)

icugal

18-06-2007, 20:30

re: Thrust reflex.

Kaelan is very day to day with this. On some days he'll eat off the spoon and swallow well... and then other days, he'll push everything out with his tongue... so I'm thinking that it might be still a bit early with him yet (not that I give him Farex everyday... only every few days). I'm more than happy to wait for him to be a little bit older anyway...

Speaking of which.. Kaelan will be 20 weeks old tomorrow. Where has the time gone?

Roopee

18-06-2007, 20:32

icugal

18-06-2007, 20:34

Sandy - I also hope all goes well tomorrow and that you can find a non-surgical solution for the problem. I for one, will be very interested in what exercises you are shown because I'm going through the same thing (unfortunately, I can't afford physio at the moment... however I will be seeing the Gynae Outpatients at the Mercy at the end of July).

icugal

18-06-2007, 20:42

And BTW... How bloody cold was it in Melbourne today??? OMG !! DF and I had to go to the supermarket earlier this evening and we practically had to rug up K like a little Eskimo before stepping out of our lovely warm, temperature controlled house.

I almost expected snow to fall... it felt THAT cold !!

LMenz

18-06-2007, 20:50

It's freezing Penny!!! Our heating bill will be huge this year I think...

I'm off to bed. My little terror could be up in two hours:banghead:

Nite All

my_lot

18-06-2007, 21:15

tan- i knew what you meant. its all good.

i was just saying to dp-- remember when i was 8-9 months pregnant and i really didnt want it to hurry up cos i knew how hard it was going to be when he was here? well its the same kinda thing with the walking!

my little puppy runs into the kids rooms at every chance he can get. im forever telling them to shut their doors (we have two new metal swing open door gates ready to go in their door frames!) the puppy gets anything on the floor and runs up the hallway with it. he deposits everything from pegs, sticks, dead lizards, toilet rolls, toilet paper, tissues, panadol dropper (dont know how he got that one!) ninja turtles just to name a few! he runs that little blue bed of his up and down the hallway its just a blast to watch him but not so funny in the middle of the night when i do the half drunk walk down the hall to fetch eli and i trip over...

everyday i have to pick up his stash of goodies and put them back in whatever room or out the back door...and everyday i think OMG in such a short time we will have a walker and he is going to turn my house upside down!

so yep the longer eli is on the ground, on his back/ belly the BETTER :laughing:

EskimoMumma

18-06-2007, 21:22

Have some of these heather..you sound so low hun:hugs::hugs::hugs:If theres aything i cn do let me know mate!

Im not low. I just dont care for pettyness :hugs:

*Sparkles*

18-06-2007, 21:43

Wow this thread has been busy today!
We have a jolly jumper and I have tried to put R in it twice and both times he has cried, so hopefully he will come around or that will be something else for me to sell on eBay :rolleyes:
I won't be buying a walker, R likes to sit up in his bumbo seat and he'll watch TV or play in it for quite a while. So long as he can see me pottering around he is fine. He also lies in his portacot playing with his toys and I have put his music and lights play gym in there too.

Had a good arvo at the shops today, R was well behaved which always makes a difference. Yes Penny it was so cold outside! I want to take R for a walk in his new stroller tomorrow, think I will have to rug up well and use the plastic covers, and that's just for me :laughing:

ziggy29

19-06-2007, 07:33

here is a link about recent solids research. i have posted this before but repost due to current conversation. had a longer post written but of course it has dissapeared into the ether.

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2007/s1912392.htm

JoJoMart

19-06-2007, 09:05

ziggy - thanks for that article..........there always seems to be contradictory advice........I was told by the MCHN to wait until at least 5 1/2 months before introducing solids so aiming for that depending how Liam goes.

Mon - I won't be buying a walker.........but Liam is so hard to keep entertained at the moment it's such hard work, so, sorry, i don't have any ideas for you & Liam! I know what you mean about the temp....sometimes Liam's room gets hotter than other rooms in the house & I'm constantly worried about him overheating.

My_lot - your puppy sounds very cute though naughty!

Sandy - my DH is the same....expects me to hang around with MIL and I don't expect the same of him......typical!

:eek: Liam's just thrown up on himself and me with bits over the keyboard.....

my_lot

19-06-2007, 10:45

did everyone here see that "burp and fart" thread that was in main chat?

i didnt see to many feb mummas in there :laughing:

i found that really interesting....so many women can burp and fart in front of their partners!

i remember when i was a wee little kid and shopping with my mother and she let one off and i yelled "what was that! did you FART MUM??"" and she said no she had just walked on a frog!! that was the last time i heard her til we took her out for dinner and she had a few drinks (shes a once a year drinker!) and she laughed so much she let one off!

oh and i still crack up about it now!

so.... now that we have all given birth.....

do you feel more comfy with your dps or are you just the same?

LMenz

19-06-2007, 11:26

Jack had his 4 month jabs this morning. He didn't cry as much as last time which was good. The nurse took one look at me and asked if he was sleeping through the night. When I said no she said he should be due to his weight and development etc

She suggested trying to re-settle him when I normally feed him at 4ish. I agree with her as he doesn't feed for long and usually falls asleep but I'm just so tired it's easier to feed him and get another 3 hours sleep out of him than be up for the next 3 hours trying to settle him. I'm glad she said something as my DH was there and it was probably good for him to hear it from someone else.....he's just putting his head in the sand about the whole thing and I'm just getting more exhausted :(

Anyway he's been asleep now for an hour - the needles must have knocked him out

RE: SOLIDS - I asked Jack's doctor this morning about it and he said as we have asthma in the family we should try and hold off as close to 6 months as possible to minimise Jack's chances of developing a reaction. He said normally if a child of 4 months was showing signs he would say to feed them but if there's a history of allergies to wait. So at the moment we will wait and see how he goes.

Kay - I burp in front of DH but won't fart unless one slips out :laughing: Will have to check out the thread

*Sparkles*

19-06-2007, 12:57

Kay - I didn't see the burp and fart thread either but I might have a look for it as it sounds funny.
I do whatever infront of DH, if he doesn't like it then he knows where the door is (gosh, I'm harsh lol)
Interesting subject for a tuesday arvo lol

Lauren - I know you have tried lots of things with Jack, but have you played lullabies to him at night? Reece always has his lullabies playing at bedtime and sometimes I put them back on during the night if he won't settle. I can burn a disc for you if you don't have any and want to give it a try?

Us - I've got a guy here ATM fitting a skylight in the kitchen. It's a shame he came today as I received a lunch invite from one of the girls in my Mother's group that I had to turn down.
I also got a phone call today from the Neurologist's office and they have moved my appt forward to this friday at 5pm which is good as DH can come home early and watch R.
Not sure what can be done for my migraines, he'll probably send me off for another head CT scan :rolleyes:

Oh, and Twinkle Toes rang to say that R's hands and feet are ready to pick up. (I just read that back and it sounds a bit funny lol).

Well, I'd better get off here as I am obviously bored and starting to :ecomcity: I never know what to do with myself when there are traddies in the house.

juzzy

19-06-2007, 13:02

lauren - glad that the nurse said something, hopefully ur DH will help out more or something! Dont know how you are coping still, you are a very strong woman!

Kay - yeah i fart and burp in front of DP we have nothing to hide from one another now. I never used to do it at all but now i figure that he as seen me go through childbirth he can see me in all my glory!

about walkers i wont be buying one as have heard some horror stories about them. Besides im not ready to have her on the move just yet LOL

As for solids we are holding off still, she really isnt showing many signs of wanting solids just yet so hopefully we can wait until 6 months to start.
She was 4 months last saturday :fingerscrossed: we can hold off solids for another 2 months!

Have started going walking again in the mornings, feel better for it and have some more energy as well. Have to rug Cassidy up really well for it though, she seriously looks like she is going out in the snow or something! I have started putting on our little oil heater in her bedroom in the early evening as her room is so damn cold, seems to be helping her sleep. Cant complain much about sleep though, she went from 1030 last night until 10am this morning! Shame im having trouble sleeping.....

Anyway, im off to watch All Saints on ch 7. LOL:laughing: :laughing:

ziggy29

19-06-2007, 13:11

just a quickie - i wont be able to make live chat tonight as i am going over to the MIL for dinner. although she is usually great her real daughter is in town with her baby and me and lily feel like we have been relegated to second hand sandwich status. hmmm. that reminds me i need some lunch.

hopefully i will catch up on thurs night.

just a reminder that there is a brisbane meet up on the northside on thursday morning this week for anyone who is interested you are more than welcome to attend. just pm me.

mumslilspunks

19-06-2007, 13:31

Lauren- How many times does Jack wake during the night and how many bottles does he have? Sorry for all the questions but this sounds like what Billy is doing. Do you wrap Jack? Im about ready to put Billy in a room at the other end of the house.
With ds1 we let him cry a couple of nights and it worked but with Billy we cant coz he will wake DS1 up.:banghead: :confused:

LMenz

19-06-2007, 16:12

Ren - It varies......last night he woke at 11.30, I re-wrapped him and he went back to sleep in about 10 minutes. He then woke at 3.30 where I fed him but he was falling asleep before he'd finished one side. I sat him up to burp him and his eyes were rolling back in his head. He then slept until 7am

Most nights it's around 12-1am then anywhere from 2-4am then 6-7am. I'm totally fed up with it :banghead: I don't believe in controlled crying before 6 months but I don't know what else to do???

The nurse suggested sleep school but I have tried every settling technique I could read about. She thinks he's now waking out of habit....who knows??

The interesting thing is when Mum looked after him he woke at 1am, she gave him 100ml of EBM, he then went back to sleep and stayed asleep until 6am :confused: :confused:

Thanks for the offer Hels but I have tried music. His aquarium works quiet well. Most things stop working after a certain time frame

Won't be in live chat ladies.....I'll be trying to get some sleep I think

*Sparkles*

19-06-2007, 16:36

Lauren - I think it's pretty normal for babies to wake at least once or twice during the night, but maybe not every night in a row. So as far as that goes, what Jack is doing is probably the same as everyone else's bub. It's the re-settling part that is the issue here. Question is, is he waking because he is genuinely hungry or for some other reason? I suppose when you get to the bottom of that then you would have your answer and can look for the solution. Maybe try the controlled crying for a couple of nights and see how it goes? I know they say not until 6 mths but as we know all babies are so different and alot of those time frames are just a guide. Same goes for starting solids etc. I wish I could help you further but it's a tough one and I don't know what else to suggest. Perhaps the sleep school could still help, are you on the waiting list still?

I hope you get some better sleep tonight hun :hugs:

Not sure if I will be in chat either, I have 9 mums and bubs coming here tomorrow (from Mother's Group) so I need to dust and vacuum tonight :thumbsdown: At least it gives me an excuse to clean up the house :laughing:

LMenz

19-06-2007, 17:25

Hels - He's woken 2-3 times nearly every night for the last 5 weeks. Since he was 2 weeks old he's only ever woken once, around 4am for a feed.

It all started when he got that cold. For a few nights he went back sleeping from 6.30-4.30 but then it stopped again. I really don't think he's hungry and he's not too difficult to settle it's just I physically can't keep this up long term. I'm exhausted!! and I'm pretty much doing it all on my own all day every day

Thanks for your suggestions I really do appreciate them :) At the moment I'm finding this is a good place to vent my frustration.

I still haven't put my name down for sleep school. I was reading the other day about an in home service called night nannies.....I will look into it

*Sparkles*

19-06-2007, 18:16

I was reading the other day about an in home service called night nannies.....I will look into it

This sounds interesting :thumbsup: I assume it's like having a baby sitter there overnight who gets up to bubs if needs be?

If it's any consolation, I have to get up to R some nights about 3 times. The other night he wouldn't settle until 1am. And now he has a habit of stirring at 5.30-6am which is enough to wake me, but he goes back to sleep and I lay awake until he wakes up properly :banghead: . So I understand your frustration to some degree. And yet other nights I don't hear a peep from him until morning, they are just so unpredictable!

harleyq

19-06-2007, 19:23

Thanks Sandy......Skid Row were pretty good. They are sooo old though. Sebastion Bach wore skin tight leather pants and his shirt was undone to his belly button He still has really long hair too. Not sure if they played that song...I can't remeber the names of them (baby brain! lol) They have a new album out apparently.

I haven't noticed if he's poking his tongue out still....he tried to lick my sandwich yesterday. I put an empty spoon in his mouth and he opened up wide and tried to eat it

I thought you were still talking about Sebastian bach when you were talking of poking his tongue out, but l figured it out when you said he tried to lick my sandwhich PMSL!!!:D

Kay - I burp and fart in front of DH, l can't recall when l felt comfortable enough to do it, but l am pretty sure it was before we moved in together (or 18 months into our relationship) - its a human function and completely normal!!! Mind you l don't like it too much when he lets off a stinky one :rolleyes:

Yeah Hels, thats great news about them moving your neorologist appt. up!!!

Lauren - I have a theory on the EBM - my theory is that it is easier for them to drink the EBM down so they get more into them, that is they get more into them before they fall asleep and thus stay asleep for longer - l was going to try giving Coen part of his last feed by EBM, that is starting off with say 80 mls and then topping up what ever with the breast and see if it helps, but since l made that decision there has been everything in my way, starting with my breastpump having problems to not having the time to express, but l will give it a go... Cos Coen is back to waking up twice during the night as well - a similar pattern to Jack really - 1-2; 4-5, 7-8. I was a bit cut cos l got use to only one wake up a night not that l had that for long...

Coen doesn't seem to want to settle tonight... we have been trying to get him down for about an hour, the last few nights we have had trouble with wind again - not sure what is going on - even the infants friend and heat bag aren't working too great... l think its got something to do with his 5 minute gulping sessions that he has started doing... he's screaming again better go and assist DH - we have been taking it in turns - maybe it needs a team effort

Hope to see you in chat tonight...

mumslilspunks

19-06-2007, 19:24

Ren - It varies......last night he woke at 11.30, I re-wrapped him and he went back to sleep in about 10 minutes. He then woke at 3.30 where I fed him but he was falling asleep before he'd finished one side. I sat him up to burp him and his eyes were rolling back in his head. He then slept until 7am

I do really know how you feel!! Billy normally used to sleep from around 8 till 4am feed then back to sleep until around 7. Now hes awake from anywhere between 11,12 then again 3,4 then again 5,6am. Its a nightmare. He never used to like being wrapped but tonight is the first night that ive put him down wrapped so hopefully he'll sleep.
Its so hard coz if its not DS2 (billy) its DS1 waking. I would LOVE just one nights full sleep from both boys :fingerscrossed: :detective: :yes:

harleyq

19-06-2007, 19:46

Thanks everyone for :fingerscrossed:. I went to the PF Physio today - looks like l have both a bladder and uterus prolapse - l didn't ask so many questions whilst l was there - l so shouldn't do these appointments on my own... but l have no idea if its common to have both prolapse or not... in any case l have to wait till my Dr. appt. next week to find out if its 1st or 2nd degree...
But we were able to get started on some exercises and she has told me what to do and what not to do - which is what l was particularly after...

If anybody is interested l'm happy to go into specifics otherwise l don't want to bore you... suffice to say, no cleaning for me and l will be taking it very easy until l get the all clear...

SuperFrog

19-06-2007, 22:49

Tanya - hope you don't get hit by the storm/s again. Sending you positive weather vibes! :wizard:

LMenz

20-06-2007, 08:34

I didn't think it was possible to be any more tired than I am.......

Last night Jack woke at 12,2,4,6,7.30 and 9 :sleeping: :sleeping: DH helped out from 2 onwards which was good.

I finally fed him at 4.30 just to shut him up.He's an absolute maniac :devil6:

my_lot

20-06-2007, 09:36

lauren- you poor bugger. we were going through the same thing with eli a few weeks back...we had been since he was born.

i got to breaking point when he was about 14 weeks. i rang the aba for help. i was ready to stop b/feeding just to get some sleep. they told us how to drop a night feed. we did this for a week...til dp got sick (he was the one getting up to him so eli couldnt smell me)

we have the same problem as ren with the crying in the night. eli sleeps in with dd the other two kids are right next door- so we cant have eli crying at all hours in his cot. so it was a tricky situation.

then i gave him farax....

now he will sleep 6-8 hours. sometimes he will wake at 2am but its not everynight like it was and its not 2 am then 4 am then 6am! also i can track it back to him not getting enough b/feeds in the day.

he still 3 hourly feeds in the day...but its a small price to pay for a nights sleep!

he still wakes most nights at 4am, i breastfeed him in our bed and re-wrap and put him down on "his side" (we have a bedrail on it) then go to the bathroom take the dog out ect so he will self settle -i dont want to undo my hard work! then he will sleep there til he wakes up again at 6-7.

now i know what its like to sleep 7 hours! and i even wake up to a baby laughing and happy...

have you talked to someone from aba? i wasnt easy about ringing for help because i wanted to stop b/feeding! but she was just great. we talked for an hour. (she also has a baby that refused a teat) i told her i wanted to start farax and we talked about what it would do to my milk supply and when it should be given so i still got in all the feeds he needed. maybe they could give you some ideas.

hope you get some sleep today...

JoJoMart

20-06-2007, 10:40

Lauren - you poor thing that's terrible that Jack woke up every two hours. You must be absolutely stuffed. I'm tired after Liam waking at 3:30 then at 5am and then again at 6:30 so I sort of know what you mean. Lately he's been a right bugger and not slept much during the day........don't you feel like screaming sometimes :eek:

Sandy - :hugs: I hope you can get your health back on track soon. It's hard enough dealing with a baby let alone trying to heal from childbirth a few months down the track.

Me - well Liam is the biggest grissle bum and it's been driving me nuts. I can't get anything done.......still in my PJ's as I type this! He's on his playmat and tired so I will be putting him down soon and hopefully this time he will sleep for @*$# sake!!

:confused: Anyone who is bottlefeeding their bub.......Liam cries after EVERY feed nowadays. I've been to the paediatrician a few times now......he's got reflux (mainly silent) and he's being treated for that and we are trying the thickened formula but he still cries after every feed. Burping helps and we try and break up his feed but he screams for the bottle! The only time he seems to feed well is the late night feed or when we are out and there's other distractions around. Does anyone else have this problem with FF their bub? He downs 200mls in 10 mins and we've tried different size teats etc

juzzy

20-06-2007, 12:35

those going to the melb meet anyone want to meet up before hand? im wouldnt mind going to checkout the stocktake sales at myer, kmart, target etc etc at certain shopping centre thats nearby.... LOL :laughing: :p pm me (if noone does i going anyway haha)

LMenz

20-06-2007, 12:53

This sounds interesting. I assume it's like having a baby sitter there overnight who gets up to bubs if needs be?

They do that as well but they also help you with settling techniques etc

Ren, how did Billy go last night? I feel like such a wimp when you have two kiddies to deal with

[quote=harleyq;1604712]looks like l have both a bladder and uterus prolapse

:eek: :hugs: Oh dear Sandy......what an absolute bugger! I really hope the solution is non- surgical for you

Kay - Thanks you so much for your reply :) I will give the aba a call I think.....Jack will take the bottle, just not from me or DH if I'm around. Mum said he had no trouble with it when she looked after him. I think he finds the boob very comforting....I guess most males do :rolleyes:

I think farax could help but the mother guilt would eat me alive if he ended up with asthma because I introduced solids too early.

No sleep for me today as Jack only does 40 minute bursts....I just can't wind down enough in that time frame. I let him cry for 20 minutes today to see if he would re-settle but he just screamed louder and louder.

my_lot

20-06-2007, 14:11

Kay -
I think farax could help but the mother guilt would eat me alive if he ended up with asthma because I introduced solids too early.

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:laughing:
my mothers guilt would have eaten my alive if id put his dear little head through a wall.

my two kids that started solids at 8 months and 6 months both had asthma, both on puffers in spacers by 18 months....so im not going to feel rotton if eli ends up with it, but i understand what your saying. have you tried a top up before bed? i cant believe im saying it- i hated it when people told me to top up with formula! i was trying to get b/feeding right and that wasnt going to help it at all! ...but we are 4 months on now... maybe with your lack of sleep its worth a try?

ziggy29

20-06-2007, 15:12

hello everyone.

isnt this age hard!! (isnt every age hard :laughing: )

i am feeling a bit down this week - it is so cold and all i want to do is sleep and snuggle under the blankets but someone else has a different idea (guess who - starts with l ends with ily). and she is getting so heavy to carry around.

also im a bit bored of it all this week. it is fairly monotonous work.

sounds like a lot of us are finding it tough this week.
lauren - big hugs :hugs: . hopefully he will grow out of it and if not 6 months isnt too far away.

my lot - lily has started clamping down on the nipple at the end of the feed. ouchie. i can feel any teeth but definately hard lumps under the gum.

sandy - i would love to hear more about the exercises and stuff. we all need reminders to do them.

ren, jo - those nights sound exhausting. keep up the good work and may tonight be the night you get 8 hours sleep in a row!!!

LMenz

20-06-2007, 15:27

:laughing:
have you tried a top up before bed? i cant believe im saying it- i hated it when people told me to top up with formula! i was trying to get b/feeding right and that wasnt going to help it at all! ...but we are 4 months on now... maybe with your lack of sleep its worth a try?

The little bugg*r won't take the bottle from me!!! Not sure if it's the formula he doesn't like or the bottle??? He just want's the boob

If DH is home in time I will get him to give it a go - with me out of the room!

I bought some farex while out shopping today........

ziggy29

20-06-2007, 15:59

hey lauren just had a thought - how about putting some thickener in the bottle too? it might take longer to digest??

SuperFrog

20-06-2007, 16:25

Lauren - I know you've probably mentioned it already, but how often does Jack feed during the day?

If I'm home, Liam tends to feed every three hours, but if we are out and about he usually goes for 4-5 hours between feeds, and sometimes has one less feed for the day. Not sure how that helps but it is something that obviously makes a difference.

Also, is Jack's room a comfortable temp? We are having trouble keeping Liam's room at a consistent, comfortable temp during the night and he will wake up if it is too cold. I'm paranoid about overheating his room after the incident the other night.

I'm having a day of baking disasters here. Happened last time I was making a few things for a meet too... maybe I'm just not supposed to bake for bubhubbers! Was going to do a roast for dinner but I ran out of pumpkin, my potatoes have gone green, and I forgot to put the meat in the oven early enough. I think I might call it quits in the kitchen for the moment and get some take-away :o . I'm still planning to make the lactation boosting cookies later tonight... hope they work out!

Does anyone with older kids have a cat? (I'm presuming Cats&Kids does! :laughing: ) Astro, our cat, is quite big and can be feisty if you mess with him. Now that Liam is getting older and more grabby, I am worried that he will end up sliced and diced after a run in with Astro. I keep a very close eye on them when they are together, but it is going to be harder when Liam becomes more mobile. I guess the situation would be the same with any pet. Well, maybe not a turtle... I'm pretty sure a kid could outrun a turtle, and the turtle could hide in it's shell at the first sign of trouble. :D

LMenz

20-06-2007, 17:25

Lauren - I know you've probably mentioned it already, but how often does Jack feed during the day?
Also, is Jack's room a comfortable temp?

ATM he's feeding 3 hourly so still getting 6 feeds per day. We bought a column heater last week just to rule out the cold. We have it set at about 18 degrees

I just tried to give him the formula....he screwed his face up like I was trying to feed him poison :eek: He was happy to suck the bottle but once he got a taste of the formula he just cracked it. He worked himself up so much he wouldn't even take the boob so I've put him to bed with his last feed at 4.30. Guess I'll have to wake him around 9??

Maybe I'll have to try a different formula. He's driving me to the brink :banghead:

SuperFrog

20-06-2007, 17:59

ATM he's feeding 3 hourly so still getting 6 feeds per day. We bought a column heater last week just to rule out the cold. We have it set at about 18 degrees

I just tried to give him the formula....he screwed his face up like I was trying to feed him poison :eek: He was happy to suck the bottle but once he got a taste of the formula he just cracked it. He worked himself up so much he wouldn't even take the boob so I've put him to bed with his last feed at 4.30. Guess I'll have to wake him around 9??

Maybe I'll have to try a different formula. He's driving me to the brink :banghead:

I could be talking rubbish here, but how about stretching out his day feeds more. That way he'll be feeding less often but will learn to drink more at a time. Then his tummy will be fuller from his last feed, and hopefully he'll sleep longer?

That being said, we are on 3-hourly feeds as well (when at home, as previously mentioned), but I only fit in 5 feeds.... roughly 8.30am, midday, 3pm, 6pm, 9pm. I'd love to get him to bed earlier, but I also don't want a 6am feed. Can't win hey?

my_lot

20-06-2007, 18:28

lauren - hows it going? did you try the farax? have you given him a lick or taste of any other food? is he showing any of the signs for being ready? oh well youll soon know by the spit thing!

i had the same problem with formula with eli- he seems to like the soy formula though and will drink that from a cup (the lid of a bottle) i also use soy to mix the formula...wish he would take a bottle - it would make like so much easier.

mon- we have a cat. we got boss when ds1 was a year old. she just gets out of the kids way if she doesnt like what they are doing.

ds used to bug the cr@p out of her...he chased her under the kitchen table once and she turned around and got hold of his head with her front feet and bunny hopped him in the face with the back feet. i nearly wet myself laughing...no way i could save him it was just the funniest thing and the look on his face when she was done....OMG still makes me laugh now!

guess it depends on your cat. she will either let him or get pithed off with it and get away...

mine, as dopey as she is, has given ds a few good bites but i look at it like this- if hes old enough to hurt her after being told not to then too bad- he has to learn the hard way..it made him respect her. he still chases her around but only if shes in a playing mood. when shes asleep he will kiss her and pat her with love. i often find then on the futon in the playroom curled up under a blankie at 6am.

im not worried about eli with the cat. i know she will just get out of his way- she doesnt think much of him now. the few times ive put him near her she isnt keen! she sits by him for a few minutes then takes off.

how was the live chat- what did i miss? i was trying to sew some more on the playmat im making but i gave up when i had to bath this child, sign homework for another then put them all to bed- one at a time....stupid me for trying to sew in rush hour BUT dp did say hed sort the kids so i could have some me time...anyway i gave up after all the stop start and just went to bed with a book.

Purplebird

20-06-2007, 18:59

I'm still planning to make the lactation boosting cookies later tonight... hope they work out!

I made those Mon - they were yummo and I ate the whole lot myself like the greedy piggy I am. I'm not sure they boosted my milk supply but who cares?!

Lauren - I sooo hear you. As you know Eloise is a shocking sleeper and I have reached the end of my tether now. I have had 2-3 night wake ups every night :banghead: I feel like I've hit a wall and everything feels completely surreal - not functioning very well now. There is no way that i could manage to resettle her during the night because I'm too tired - she has to have boobie for the sake of my sanity! I'm holding out for solids and hoping they'll help. Sorry, I know none of that helps you but I just wanted to let you know you're not alone.

Sandy - you poor thing, I hope those exercises start to do the trick soon.

Hope to see you Melb girls tomorrow - very tired though :sleeping: so won't be functioning well!

LMenz

20-06-2007, 19:23

I could be talking rubbish here, but how about stretching out his day feeds more. That way he'll be feeding less often but will learn to drink more at a time. Then his tummy will be fuller from his last feed, and hopefully he'll sleep longer?

I tried that Mon...it worked for a few days and then he started waking at night. I read somewhere that if they don't get enough feeds during the day they will look for it at night

lauren - hows it going? did you try the farax? have you given him a lick or taste of any other food? is he showing any of the signs for being ready?

We will start the farax on the weekend while DH is here. He's showing all the signs of being ready for food...mouth opening when a spoon is offered, staring at me while I eat and drink, leaning forward. I've given him tastes of a few things and he seems to like them...he licked my sandwich the other day.

There is no way that i could manage to resettle her during the night because I'm too tired - she has to have boobie for the sake of my sanity! Hope to see you Melb girls tomorrow - very tired though :sleeping: so won't be functioning well!

Hannah...I agree, I've just been feeding him to shut him up lately :shame: I'm exhausted too so we can comiserate together....although I haven't been doing it for as long as you. How have you coped for this long??

I just went onto his room to put some clothes away and he woke up....maybe he has baby insommnia?? Is that possible?? :laughing:

DH has gone to pick some friends up from the airport so once the washing is done I'm off to bed

See all you Melb Girls tomorrow :)

my_lot

20-06-2007, 19:33

i also use soy to mix the formula...wish he would take a bottle - it would make like so much easier.

.

i meant i mix the farax with the soy formula

LMenz

20-06-2007, 19:38

Kay - Do you mix with formula so it's heavier? Why not with breastmilk? Jack had a few top up bottles of formula when he was a newborn....we used Heinz so I might buy some of that and see if he will take it....god he's a little sh*t sometimes :laughing:

Just wanted to say also WHERE ARE ALL THE SYDNEY GIRLS??

And Jen if your reading this I hope all is well with your FIL

harleyq

20-06-2007, 19:39

Lauren - your really doing it tough - l hope he settles down for you very very soon... Coen also won't touch the bottle from me, and we tried again tonight with DH, but l was in the room and he wouldn't take it... we might have to do it with me completley out of the picture - and definitely won't be trying at night time again until he gets the hang of it again - cos it took ages to get him to sleep by the time we tried the bottle for awhile and then gave up and put him on the breast - and then he sucked so hard l thought my nipple was going to come off as well!!! In the end after half an hour l put a stop to it (it was supposed to be a top up feed - not a marathon).

Coen is back to waking twice a night and that is hard enough - my thoughts are with everyone waking up more than that... l don't think l could handle going back there again!!!

Good luck tonight everyone

blubber

20-06-2007, 20:37

Sandy: MY dear you are experiencing a few troubles hope everything that you are trying generates a positve result.

I didn't think it was possible to be any more tired than I am.......

Last night Jack woke at 12,2,4,6,7.30 and 9 :sleeping: :sleeping: DH helped out from 2 onwards which was good.

I finally fed him at 4.30 just to shut him up.He's an absolute maniac :devil6:

In General Lauren, and i must admit i have skimmed a little on the posts but have you tried a drema/roll over feed. Just a thought as i don't think anyone had mentioned it. Worked fatastically for DD1 an so far so good with Elly.

Me - well Liam is the biggest grissle bum and it's been driving me nuts. I can't get anything done.......still in my PJ's as I type this! He's on his playmat and tired so I will be putting him down soon and hopefully this time he will sleep for @*$# sake!!

Was In PJ's until 1.00pm today but that is another story..

:confused: Anyone who is bottlefeeding their bub.......Liam cries after EVERY feed nowadays. I've been to the paediatrician a few times now......he's got reflux (mainly silent) and he's being treated for that and we are trying the thickened formula but he still cries after every feed. Burping helps and we try and break up his feed but he screams for the bottle! The only time he seems to feed well is the late night feed or when we are out and there's other distractions around. Does anyone else have this problem with FF their bub? He downs 200mls in 10 mins and we've tried different size teats etc

All i can think of is his guzzling is giving him one big fat pain in the gut?? Maybe just clutching at straws. Sorry really stuck with any advice here.

Elly has always been FF but we are yet to get her to drink more than 180mls. Karicare AR with a Avent #3 teat. Thought i may try a # 4?

Us: Well i have been missing in action for a few days. We have been preparing for a mediation conference in relation to an unfair dismissal redundancy thing. A nightmare when we are in one state and it happened in another state. Most of the fight now is purley financial and not the way we were treated as employees. Thanx to Little Johnny Howard and his IR laws!
Just a vent but something that probably explains the stress we are feeling.

Elly is still (and i hope i dont dig here) sleeping so well during the day that we are trialing keeping her up between a feed and just letting her snooze in the swing for 1/2 hour or so. Problem being she doesn't feed enought during the day. Problem also is that by that next feed she has it and needs to sleep not long after..ie: no feed/play/sleep routine.

We have a restless period most nights betwen 4 and 6 for part of it and it is not hunger just not sleeping. NOt even screaming, just waking up. SO like many am wondering do i let her scream for a bit. DOn't feel so bad about this 2nd time around!!

*Sparkles*

20-06-2007, 21:15

Lauren - I hope you find some answers soon hun, I think we have nearly exhausted all avenues on what to do, but great to see everyone offering advice and suggestions. Lets hope the solids help :fingerscrossed:

Juz - I would have come shopping with you tomorrow (you know I never like to miss a shopping opportunity :p ) But there's no way I could get there early enough as I have to make a pasta dish in the morning and get R ready and myself etc. But maybe we could have a rain-check and go another time? Good luck with the bargain hunting. Oh, and if you remember, could you please bring the Prison Break DVD? thanks :)

Jo - 10 mins for 200mls sounds quite fast. Reece is a guts but he takes about 15 mins. I find that if he drinks too fast then he gets sickie or cries too. What teats are you using? I recommend the pigeon in a M or Y size. The L is too fast, I bought 2 but have stopped using them for now.

Kay - The playmat sounds interesting. I am trying to find a really big one but haven't been able to find one yet. I was thinking about making one too, or buying a quilt and sewing some play things onto it.

Sandy - Where did you get your nice big playmat from?

Us - The Mother's Group meet went well today, I had it at my house. Reece slept from 1.15pm to 4pm and then had a feed. So he only got to play with the other babies for about an hour before they all went home lol. I put him in his new stroller for his sleep as I want him to get used to it, so far so good.

Anyway, better head off to bed or I will be non functioning tomorrow too lol.

blubber

20-06-2007, 21:25

Juz - I would have come shopping with you tomorrow (you know I never like to miss a shopping opportunity :p ) But there's no way I could get there early enough as I have to make a pasta dish in the morning and get R ready and myself etc. But maybe we could have a rain-check and go another time? Good luck with the bargain hunting. Oh, and if you remember, could you please bring the Prison Break DVD? thanks :)

Is that of the first series of Prison Break or the second?I so wished i ahd seen the first series as i am so into the first.

juzzy

20-06-2007, 21:39

alright ill be a loner on early morning shopping then haha

Hels - i wont forget this time, its already in the nappy bag.

Blubber - its the second season, i have the first season somewhere as well. I also have Greys Anatomy. Im a bit of a tv buff

As for me, nothing going on. Cassi has gone to bed so im heading that way too.

See the melb ladies tomorrow. Have a good night everyone

SuperFrog

20-06-2007, 22:02

Kay - Tell us more about this mystery play mat! How big is it? Post a progress pic. I wanna see it!

Liam's feeds are all out of whack today. Last one is usually around 8.30pm, and tonight it was at 11pm! Have no idea what time he'll sleep until in the morning. If I'm late to the meet you'll know we're having a sleep in! :D

Going to bed now... will see the Melbourne girls tomorrow and hope to talk to everyone in live chat tomorrow night.

ziggy29

21-06-2007, 07:21

HELLO - CAN ANYBOBDY SEE ME??? (she screams into the abyss of the internet).

dont the bubs look cute all rugged up. lily will not get put down at all - maybe it is quite cold on the ground.

SuperFrog

21-06-2007, 07:48

Hello Ziggy - I Can See You!

SuperFrog

21-06-2007, 07:51

I wrote that in caps as I wanted to shout it across the abyss, but it changed it automatically. Weird! And I had a smiley in there too but it wouldn't work. Yesterday the kitchen hated me, today it is the computer.

my_lot

21-06-2007, 08:15

my playmat- ah i should wait til its done before i take a pic!

its still raw at the edges- i get the kids to cut the cotton but we just havent had time...everytime i sit down i end up doing more on dds sewing than mine! (her machine is set up next to mine)

its a cat on each square. each cat has different "play things". so one tail is a rattle that stays on with velcro (easier to wash the mat) and it has a pocket of beads sewn into the belly for touchy feely. the ears crinkle.

another cat is quite plain but has a baby cat the same as the mumma to sit in a pocket on her belly.

another cat has a mirror on the face with a magnet sewn in the back and a bug that sits in her belly (pocket) that will snap onto the magnet face. it has a tail that velcros together...and crinkle ears..

they are the cats ive done so far...any ideas for the others would be great!

- each cat is made of squares cat material and then on a larger plain colour square. the corners will be largers cat squares of cats with instruments and i will make a crinkle square on its own to velcro down- for games of "match the cat" for later on.

sounds good? im not sure it will look as good as it sounds! :laughing: its about the second thing ive made in about 20 years!...both my girls sew and own machines (thanks to my mother) but i never sew to make anything-just help them in the school hols when they get their machines out ...so the first thing i made was the other day when i made a cushion from the some of the cats for an elderly lady we know- when she told me how much she loved that material- it gave me the insperation....

this is the cushion-
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/000_0444.jpg

my_lot

21-06-2007, 08:19

hi ziggy ****shouting right back at you**********

*Sparkles*

21-06-2007, 09:06

Kay - That looks great! It has given me the inspiration to make something. I just wish I had more time :( I also want to crochet more baby blankets but I haven't had the chance to pick up the crochet hook again for ages.

Well, I'd best get off here and go and get ready for the meet today. The pasta is made and thankfully it went ok without any hitches! I am not the best :chef: but I like to have a go now and then lol.

Have a great day everyone, I am looking forward to catching up with the lovely Melb girls again :)

SuperFrog

21-06-2007, 16:08

...so the first thing i made was the other day when i made a cushion from the some of the cats for an elderly lady we know

At first I thought you said that the cushions were made FROM cats... and then I reread it as the cushions were made FOR the cats. It wasn't until I looked at the pic that it finally clicked! :laughing:

Love the cushion! Any chance of a sneek peek at the playmat? How big is it???

Great to see the Melb gang today. Will post some pics later, if they are decent. I seemed to have a blurry problem today... not sure if it was the camera or the photographer. :)

LMenz

21-06-2007, 17:34

HELLO - CAN ANYBOBDY SEE ME??? (she screams into the abyss of the internet).

:wave: :wave: Hello!!!

*Sparkles*

21-06-2007, 17:39

Great catch-up today ladies and thanks to Jo for hosting :thumbsup: Had a good run home, only took 45 mins. R had a little sleep in the car, then played at home for a while and now he's just fallen asleep in the pram. I'll wake him in an hour or so for a feed and then a bath. Not sure if I will make live chat tonight as DH has to go out later to drop off some stock. So it will depend on whether R is settled or not.

I don't feel like any dinner, I ate way too much food at lunchtime!

Kay - I'd love a sneaky peek at the playmat too!

LMenz

21-06-2007, 17:41

Well Jack slept better last night only woke at 1am then slept until 7.15 :yelclap: YAY! I feel almost human again...I'm praying it's not a fluke

Thanks to everyone for all their suggestions....it's wonderful to have so much support when I've been feeling so crappy about it.

Melb Meet was great but the time just flys by..... I stopped in at DH's work on the way home for a nappy change. He will be late home again so was good for him and Jack to have half an hour together.

Thanks Jo for hosting....the mini quiches were yummo. Hels your pasta salad was delish too.

I'm about to have a beer and am waiting for my pizza to be delivered.

Not sure if I'll make it to chat......hope to :) I'll post some photo's too when I can

mumslilspunks

21-06-2007, 18:00

Evening ladies :wave:
What a day, my DS1 decided he didnt want to have a nap today and now he's down at the hospital (emergency) with DH coz he fell of the tabel in the games room and smashed his head on the concrete.
He bit his tonuge but feel asleep pretty much straight away which really concernd me. He has a huge egg on his head and has a gash also.
Ive herd its not good for kids to fall asleep when they have hit their heads so thats why i decided he should go to hospital.:gloomy:
Billy slept a total of 6 hrs last night and im about ready to fall into a heap.
Im heading down to Melb tomorrow coz i feel ive lost it and i need help so going to stay with mum and dad for a couple of days so i can get some sleep.
Im hopeing to make it to chat coz i do really want to catch up with everyone.
To bad i wasnt more organised and planned a meet while im going to down in melb.:thumbsdown:
I would really love to meet some of you at one stage.
OH no Billy's crying again.......
Anyone want a lil boy for a couple of days? LOL :D

LMenz

21-06-2007, 18:58

Ren - I hope Jack is ok...scary!

Where is everyone??? I'll be chatting to myself by the looks of things :ecomcity:

Purplebird

21-06-2007, 20:38

:hugs: Ren, I hope your little man is OK. Sounds like you need a break - I hope you enjoy it.

:wave: Ziggy

Thanks Jo for hosting today and thanks to all the Melb girls for a great afternoon. I second Lauren - the quiches and pasta were yummy and I had a few too many of your cookies Mon :D Its Ok though, I've just been to aqua aerobics so I made up for it!

Won't make it into chat as I'm relaxing after the workout and I'm off to bed soon. Night all.

icugal

21-06-2007, 21:21

I've posted my photos from the meet-up in our Feb photo thread...

http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=79909&page=3

Gotta go... Kaelan is screaming yet AGAIN. No rest for the weary...

juzzy

21-06-2007, 21:39

penny those pics are so great!! Did u get the ones of K that i emailed to you?

Big thanks to Jo for hosting the meet today, was great fun!

Took me 40 mins or so to get home. So i was happy with that

Thanks for the chat tonight too guys!

Oh well, im off, Cassidy had a late nap (6-9pm) so i am about to bath her and then hopefully she will go to bed.

I am going to go buy new jeans tomorrow, which i am badly in need of. Scary prospect though, i hate clothes shopping (for myself that is!!)

Night guys!

*Sparkles*

21-06-2007, 21:54

We were talking today about a possible Karicare formula product recall. I've got this info off their website incase it affects any of us;

Due to a bureaucratic dispute with the government, our product may be temporarily unavailable.

Nutricia extends a sincere apology to its loyal Karicare Gold Plus infant formula consumers. A bureaucratic dispute with the government means Karicare Gold Plus Infant & Follow-On formulas will soon be temporarily unavailable.

The dispute is not about safety. In fact, NSW Health has said it has no safety concerns about Karicare Gold Plus. Instead, the dispute is about the legal definition of the ingredients in prebiotics which are used in Karicare and many other common food & beverage products. Nutricia�s prebiotics have been safely consumed by an estimated 10 million babies around the world. Nutricia also wants to make the benefits of these prebiotics available to Australian babies and believes that the legal definitions in the current Australian Food Standards permit us to do so.

You can help us get your product back on the shelves by having your voice heard. Register your protest against the government dispute to ensure that these products will be made available again. Click on the top link �Register your protest with the government� and follow the prompts.

Nutricia is doing all it can to quickly resolve the dispute with the government and return Karicare Gold Plus to grocery & pharmacy shelves around Australia.

Thank you for your loyalty. Thank you for your faith in Karicare Gold Plus.

This dispute does not affect any of our other Karicare Product range, including Karicare Gold Plus Toddler.

Roopee

21-06-2007, 22:11

I hope everyone who has tired grumpy babies is able to get some sleep soon! I havent really got anything to suggest that hasn't already been suggested. The idea of solids though is a good one. I would definatley be looking into it or trying it for a day or two if you ok with the idea of it. Since Cody started on solids i get a solid 4 hr sleep thru the day...in the afternoon and 13 hrs straight a night so well worth considering.:hugs:

The pics of the meet today are great!! Looks like everyone had fun!

Ren- i hope your little man is ok! Its always so terrifying when its their head isnt it! I remember having my DS2 up at the hospital 3 times!!!!!!In one day when he was about 2. All head injuries..one he bumped (or slammed would be a better word) Into th corner edge of the table and split his forhead open...two was head first off the trampoline...three was dh was carrying a large steel pipe and DS walked behind it...slammed into it and cut the skin just under his eye..requiring it to be glued back together!! He has been many times after that and the nurses in triage actually know him by name lol.

kay- cant wait to see this mat...the cushion looks great!

I just have a pic to show you of my little miss in her jolly jumper....do ya think she likes it??
http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w80/roo_pee/?action=view&current=DSCN2368.jpg

and getting some bouncing help from big sister!!
http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w80/roo_pee/?action=view&current=DSCN2372.jpg

JoJoMart

22-06-2007, 08:18

Good morning girls :wave:

Hels - thanks for the post about Karicare Gold. I don't use the Gold product so it doesn't affect me which is good.

Thanks to all the MELBOURNE girls for coming along yesterday. DH helped clean up when he got home and Liam slept well last night so that's good.

I'll post some photos in a mini........

Ren - I hope your little man didn't get concussion? It's a scary thought that a baby could hit his head isn't it? Good idea to stay with your pares for a a few days and pity you couldn't have made the Melb meet, but maybe next time? It would be great to meet you one day.

Roopee - love your photos.

Well I'm off to Liam's 4 month check today at the maternal health centre and he gets his 4 months shots tomorrow........then we have a party in the afternoon a friend eloped to Las Vegas........yes they had an Elvis wedding! Not my thing but will be funny to hear all about it.

Have a good day everyone :)

LMenz

22-06-2007, 08:30

I've added a pic from yesterday.....

http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?p=1615555&posted=1#post1615555

icugal

22-06-2007, 11:54

Thanks to all the MELBOURNE girls for coming along yesterday. DH helped clean up when he got home and Liam slept well last night so that's good.

Oh no... did we leave a huge mess at your house?? I'm so sorry if we all bolted out the door so quickly without helping you clean up... I think most of us were blindsighted by the possibility of being stuck in peak hour traffic.

I'll make a deal with you. When the meet is at my house (whenever that will be)... you can come and completely trash my place ok?? That will lessen my guilt !! :)

Thanks again for hosting yesterday Jo.. your quiches were so yummy !!

LMenz

22-06-2007, 14:49

my_lot

22-06-2007, 15:02

lauren- everytime i see pics of jack he has the funkiest clothes! where do you get his slogan tops?

ive used those teething rusks too. have to keep putting them back in his hands... i like the thing i got from target that holds cold foods in a mesh that he can suck and chew on. its easy to wash and i can put some banana in and pop it in the freezer for a bit til its cold but not rock hard.

tanya- love the pic of bay helping cody to jump! cody looks like shes having a ball...oh and how rosey is her face! is she cutting teeth?

ren- how is jacks head?

icugal

22-06-2007, 15:12

i like the thing i got from target that holds cold foods in a mesh that he can suck and chew on. its easy to wash and i can put some banana in and pop it in the freezer for a bit til its cold but not rock hard.

I've seen one of these a couple of times and had considered buying it... but I was a bit concerned about how well they would wash up.

Maybe I might buy one if you think that they are good.

LMenz

22-06-2007, 15:19

lauren- everytime i see pics of jack he has the funkiest clothes! where do you get his slogan tops?

Kay....mostly Cotton On for Kids. Do they have one in Brissie?

I've bought stacks of stuff from there. Most tees are $10 - $20. I buy a bit from Rock Your Baby too but they are expensive.

The jumpsuit he had on at yesterday's meet was on sale (at Cotton On) for only $8.50. I LOVE a bargain! :D

juzzy

22-06-2007, 15:27

lauren i love a bargain as well!i love cotton on kids too it has to be my favorite kids shop by far! Their clothes are well made and good quality, which i have found can be hard to come by! Speaking of bargains, yeah i got my jeans, one of the pairs i bought was marked down to $20 from $80 and i had no idea until i went to pay, needless to say i then went back and bought another pair! :laughing:

Buying new jeans did highlight the fact that i really need to lose weight as well. Kind of depressing but a reality that i am going to have to deal with sooner rather than later me thinks!

While i was out bought some toys for Cassidy. She was really quiet while i was walking around in kmart and then started laughing hysterically when i showed her this yellow carebear (anyone remember them?!? lol). Needless to say i bought it. Shes 4 months old and already got me wrapped around her finger... :laughing:

Spoke to my sister late last night, my mum has been having bad stomach pains for awhile now and my sister has finally pushed her to do something about it. My sister (and the doctor) think it may be serious so they are going to do an ultrasound and see whats going on.

Other than that no news.

LMenz

22-06-2007, 15:27

i like the thing i got from target that holds cold foods in a mesh that he can suck and chew on. its easy to wash and i can put some banana in and pop it in the freezer for a bit til its cold but not rock hard.

I've seen those too (at BIG W) At first I wondered what the hell they were :laughing: Might grab one also....

my_lot

22-06-2007, 15:35

does cotton on have a webshop i wonder..

yes rock your baby is Expensive. i got the boob shirt from that website ended up being about $30 for the shirt and postage..

my friend got a top for her baby from bigw "funky little dude" on it and it was $5!!

im off to hunt the web....my dp hates slogan shirts :laughing:

blubber

22-06-2007, 17:38

Gee quiet here today...

I've had an uneventful day. Jack woke every 2 hours last night from 2am....but I think he has another cold :thumbsdown: So much for breastfed babies never getting sick

We have some friends coming over tonight for beer and pizza. They have two kids so should be fun.

I've just been to the supermarket and bought some of those teething rusks. Will give Jack one when he wakes. Might keep him quiet for a minute....he's been pretty good today. He sat in his swing and played with his book for 20 minutes.

IS Jack having solids yet. I thought about the rusks for Elly, mainly for something for her to do. Trued solids but she really couldn't give two sh*ts about it.

Never one to judge as a bottle fed bub usually cops the flack but it does give you confidence when people say about BF bubs getting sick. Overall we do the best for ourselves and our children.

mmm beer and pizza, that's our house tonight!!

[quote=juzzy;1617645]lauren i love a bargain as well!i love cotton on kids too it has to be my favorite kids shop by far! Their clothes are well made and good quality, which i have found can be hard to come by!

Spoke to my sister late last night, my mum has been having bad stomach pains for awhile now and my sister has finally pushed her to do something about it. My sister (and the doctor) think it may be serious so they are going to do an ultrasound and see whats going on.

Other than that no news.

Why is it the that the few things i have got for Mia (DD1) are so out of shape, stretched and loosing colour. Glad someone has had some success.
Kay: I don't like slogan T-Shirts either...not that there is anything wrong with those who do!!

Ren: I so feel for you. DD1 did this at about 12 months, head first into a concrete floor. I will admit we were at the pub where we lived, (town was the pub/PO/shop). If i knew how to put a photo here i would show you. Such a scary thing. Hope he recovers and you feel ok.

Karicare: Elly id on Karicare AR so i have confidence she is not affected but it makes me wonder about the other products they have?

Jo: Funny how people we are friends with have some ideas that we would never adhere to. Hope you ahve a great night.

Well i left chat last night with much reluctance but so glad i did. Elly slept from 8.15 last night until 6.30 this morning. I went to bed and almost felt strange today with so much sleep.
Ok we had to get up a few times to stick that god dam dummy back in but what a winner.

ATM she is sleeping until 6.30ishpm, having a feed then going to bed around 8.00ish. It just feels strange that she is getting up then. MIa was always down by 7.00ish but having a rollover. I'm wondering am i generating a 8.30pm bed time for good?
She goes down awake these days but it is the dummy that is the only reason we go back. Am thinking of weaning her off that so she will re-settle. BUt ah.. such a can of worms

*Sparkles*

22-06-2007, 18:41

I had a neurologist appt tonight for my migraines. They had a cancellation at 5pm so DH came home early to look after R. He went down for a sleep at 4pm and slept the whole time I was out, typical hey? :rolleyes:
Anyway, the Dr said he sees quite a few women with "hormone related" headaches like mine and he has prescribed some pills so we will see how they go :fingerscrossed: I am not holding my breath though.

Juz - Great that you got some jeans today at a bargain price. Did you go to Chaddy?

I have never been to Cotton on Kids as they don't have one at Fountain Gate (where I mostly shop). It sounds good though, is there one at Southland?

We are going to pick-up R's hands and feet cast tomorrow arvo and will then head to the shops to check out the sales. I want to have a look at the exersaucer thing and see if R likes it before buying one. I was bidding on one on eBay and I didn't win it (even with a snipe) as it went for a high price, so I will see what they are worth new.

SuperFrog

22-06-2007, 19:01

I need to vent.

I've had a bad day. Am trying to cook a roast dinner, and Liam was screaming, so I had to feed him earlier than usual. Then, DH is stuck at work, so I have a roast with no one to eat it with. Plus I cut my finger. And my MIL and her sister (Auntie IL?) have driven me bonkers all day. Don't get me started on their dogs.

If DH says to me when he walks in the door that the house is a mess I might just lose it. I've already had a cry today. :gloomy: Very unlike me... damn hormones I'm sure.

Liam has cried so much yesterday afternoon and this afternoon. Haven't noticed any more ear tugging though. I don't think my milk satisfies him any more. Will be trying some solids tomorrow... hopefully that makes him happy. Breastfeeding is still hurting heaps lately. Wonder if he'll ease up on the suction once he has some real food?

On a plus note, I bought an exersaucer for Liam today. Saw one earlier in the week for $125 but went to a different suburb store to get it today and it was $190! Asked at the counter and they said it went "off sale" on Wednesday, so they called the original store and they took it off sale yesterday. I said the only reason I didn't get it when I saw it was because it wouldn't fit in my car (although really I was still undecided), and the lady was really nice and gave it to me at the sale price.

Still pretty expensive so I hope he gets a lot of use out of it. Will set it up tonight when DH gets home (after we have eaten), and will take some pics tomorrow.

Also put L in the jolly jumper at the store and he seemed to like it. Let's have the next Melb meet at someone's house who owns a jolly jumper! :laughing:

Saw a cool high chair today that converts into a kid's table and chair set for later on. I think the only drawback is that it only has two heights... normal high chair height and low kiddy chair height. I guess that's enough really. Tray comes off to get him in, seat can recline, seat belt can be mostly detached for later on. Hmm... can you tell I am still undecided?? Better hurry before they take it off sale!

DH just called and he is on his way home. Hooray!

P.S. Just went back and added some things to this post, and DH has just arrived home! That went quick. :)

juzzy

22-06-2007, 19:54

Hels - no didnt go to chaddy, just went to Frankston. As for cotton on kids, they dont have one at Southland, but they do have one at Chadstone :laughing:. Hormone related headaches hey? You
seem to have a lot of headaches so hopefully whatever the Dr has prescribed for you helps. As for the exersaucer i saw them at toys r us today, they seem pretty good! Bit disappointed at Frankstons TRU though, they didnt seem to have as much baby stuff as the last time i was there.

Mon - last time i cooked a roast dinner DP was home really late after i asked him to be early. No apologies or anything! So i can understand about you being annoyed. Hmmmm, guess thats why i have refused to cook a roast ever since!

Anyway, DPs working all this weekend so im trying to convince him that it is totally necessary for him to leave me his bank card..... shopping here i come!

harleyq

22-06-2007, 20:23

Ren - oh ren l hope your little one is okay - and welcome to Melbourne!!! If your bored we might be able to get an impromptu get together happening (depending on where you are) PM one of us!
Lauren - oh sorry to hear that jack woke frequently again last night... I bought some of those teething rusks also today...
Juzzy - well done on your shopping expedition - don't you just love it when you get those surprises at the register!!!
Mon - super :hugs: for you!!! Hope your day got better. What were you MIL, Auntie & her dogs doing that was so frustrating??? What brand was the highchair and were was it? It sounds good...

Mum came and helped me out today which was lucky cos l was up with Coen 3 times last night... and felt a bit sore down there today... l got an hours sleep this arvo and got to put up my feet up during the day a bit which was like heaven!!! Sometimes you've just gotta love your mum!!!
Hope everyone has a good night tonight, special thoughts to Lauren and that Jack sleeps well for you...

SuperFrog

22-06-2007, 22:10

Mon - super :hugs: for you!!! Hope your day got better. What were you MIL, Auntie & her dogs doing that was so frustrating??? What brand was the highchair and were was it? It sounds good...

My evening has been great actually. When DH got home he got the roast and vegies out of the oven and served up dinner. Was cooked a little more than we prefer but was still very delicious. Then we assembled the exersaucer and had fun playing with Liam. He seemed to have a great time! Have taken some pics but our main computer is having overnight surgery so I can't get the photos uploaded until tomorrow. We then gave Liam a bath, which he had a great time in, and we took some more photos. Then I fed Liam while DH tidied up the kitchen, and Liam fell straight asleep.

Oh, and the insulation was finally put in the roof of our extension today so it is much warmer finally. Yay!

Auntie-in-law (AIL) just talks CONSTANTLY. It doesn't matter if no one is listening, she just keeps on going. And she often mumbles, or talks a bit quietly, so you can't even understand her sometimes even if you tried. Plus, she starts a conversation like you have been talking about it before... but really she's just been thinking about it and thinks that you have too. Very strange. I get exhausted trying to keep up with her, without even saying anything. And when you do have something to say she'll often talk over the top of you because she isn't listening. :banghead:

MIL does waaaaay too much for her kids, us included. She is just trying to be helpful but it really gets to me sometimes. For example, my SIL and her boyfriend live about 10 minutes from her and every week she will bring their rubbish bins inside after the garbos have been so that people think someone is home. She goes out of her way to do this, so much so that she made me drive to do it today. My other SIL still lives at home (she's 20), and has a boyfriend that likes to eat a variety of foods, not just the meat and 3 veg style meals that MIL cooks. SIL and boyfriend will often cook for themselves, but MIL is in major panic mode trying to buy ingredients so they can cook things they like. Geez... let them buy their own stuff! And, said boyfriend lives over the other side of the city so SIL uses citylink to get there and back... which the ILs pay for. She racks up quite a bit on the account too from what I gather. Crazy!

And the dogs. I'm not a dog person, but as long as they don't jump all over me, sniff my crotch or hump my leg then I can deal with them. Across the road from my MIL lives a family friend about my age who lived with her grandfather and cared for him. He passed away a few months ago and this friend felt very lonely living in the house without him so she decided to get a beagle puppy. For the first few days my MIL, being ever so helpful, brought the puppy over to her house so it wouldn't be alone while the friend was at work. Fine... but she has been doing this every day now for about two months! It's like she has a puppy-minding service happening, and this poor puppy now doesn't know how to be alone. Essentially it has two owners... one for the day and one for the night. No wonder it is being difficult to train.

MIL is soooo nice but is also really stubborn once she has decided something, and can get offended very easily. I'm trying to be really strong and stand up to her when it comes to Liam, but do it in a non-offensive way. I think I have succeeded in getting her to stop rocking him to sleep. Now I'm training her not to pick him up every time he cries. I don't want a puppy situation on my hands! I'm also trying to get her to give just one or two toys to Liam at a time. She has a tendency to give him absolutely everything... I think I posted a picture of him in a cot surrounded by toys! The MIL battle will be an ongoing issue, but I can think of far worse things to be dealing with.

The high chair brand is Activa, although I have read a few negative reviews about the straps being placed badly making it awkward for the baby to sit in. Will have to investigate further. I saw it at Baby Co on special, but it was still fairly expensive. Might keep a look out for a second-hand high chair of some description.

Okay, I think that's enough about me for the night. I'm in a much better mood now, and am heading off to bed for a good night's sleep.

LMenz

23-06-2007, 09:09

Also put L in the jolly jumper at the store and he seemed to like it. Let's have the next Melb meet at someone's house who owns a jolly jumper!

Next meet is at my place and I have one Mon! Were going to try Jack in it over the weekend

I bought some of those teething rusks also today...
special thoughts to Lauren and that Jack sleeps well for you...

Thanks Sandy :) He only woke at 1.30 and then 6 so not too bad

I gave Jack one of those rusks yesterday and he demolished it within 5 minutes. I had to take it off him as big chunks of it were coming away. He totally cracked it with me! I had to feed him early to keep him quiet.......

So because of the little episode with the rusk we tried solids this morning AND he loved it!! I mixed it with some breastmilk and after the first taste there was no stopping him :laughing:

Here are some pics

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u299/lmenz/IMG_1860.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u299/lmenz/IMG_1875.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u299/lmenz/IMG_1883.jpg

So my next question is for Kay or Tanya......do I just give it to him in the mornings? Should I keep giving it to him until he refuses anymore? When do you introduce it twice a day? When do you try pumpkin etc or should he just have farax until he's 6 months?

Hope everyone has a great day :)

my_lot

23-06-2007, 10:47

hi everyone

lauren- im here to answer your questions :smiles:

but im sure tanya will be of more help to you on this- its been 10 years since ive had a 4 month old eat- so its all new all over again! also ive had all three kids before him react to certain food so im still a little worried with eli even though hes shown no signs of it i dont want him red raw with a rash or lumpy with hives!

it sure is fun watching his little hands flap around when the bib goes on and he can see the bowl!

ive always used the farax range. they come in boxes for older bubs too and all mine liked that for b/fast with some fruit and then they went onto weetbix with fruit...so farax well over 1 yr old.

do I just give it to him in the mornings?

its just good to start the farax in the morning to be able to watch for a reaction.. and im sure this is the only reason we are told to start in the morning- i cant ever remember being told it was for any other reason...
so as soon as i knew it was ok with eli i gave the farax at night- for the sleep thing.

Should I keep giving it to him until he refuses anymore?

i give him the farax about 5-6pm. we started off with one spoon then two ect now its been a few weeks and i mix 50ml of formula and about 3 spoons of farax and most of the time he will eat all that.. if hes not interested you will soon see it and then id say hes had enough.

When do you introduce it twice a day?

i think i gave him a bit in the day about a week after we started...

now he has food in the day- a custard tin (like apple or fruit custard) sometimes mixed with farax or sometimes i buy the jars pre-mixed sometimes i mix a fruit gel with farax

and just farax at night. its about 6 hours between solids.

we have had some days where he will wake for b/feed at 4 am then 6 am then dp will take him out the bedroom and has give him some farax (about 2 teaspoons) and hes happy with that...

im not sure about an age for the pumpkin ect...i think its up to you.. i think its 6 months that they start to need the extra iron so ill worry about introducing dif food sometime after that. weve tried a puree veg tin. its bright orange and very sloppy and i remember from ds1 that it doesnt wash out of the clothes and bibs well! weve tried puree veg from our dinner but hes not keen- he likes the custards- they go down well and hes not reacting so we will stick to that for now.

if i give him something new (like the custards- i was worried about them) i give him one spoon and then freex the rest and give him the food i know he hasnt reacted to. so in some way i can still keep track of what he can eat.

also i noticed the spoon you were using.. have a look at "the first year" range. 12 small tip spoons for about $4. (woolies/coles bigW) i think they are the best baby spoons ive ever used...ill have to take a pic to show you. my friend has the bigger ones for her toddler but these are very small.

anyway- i will wait for tanyas input on this....id love to hear about codys food..bet its not all wet cardboard for her :laughing: - im sure eli would be a green eyed monster watching cody eat!

harleyq

23-06-2007, 11:27

Oh Mon, you can do too much for your kids and your MIL sounds like a prime suspect - to be honest my mum and MIL are probably in this camp as well - we don't take advantage of it - and sometimes it can even be a bit annoying (that sounds really selfish), like when they came over and though our welcome mat outside wasn't good enough, l came home the next day and there was a new one outside my door - the old one having dissappeared - pity if l was attached to the old mat (l wasn't incidentally - but still it is our house).
I'm glad your evening was better...

I gave Jack one of those rusks yesterday and he demolished it within 5 minutes....
So because of the little episode with the rusk we tried solids this morning AND he loved it!! I mixed it with some breastmilk and after the first taste there was no stopping him :laughing:

Yeah for Jack having a good sleep!!! We were up at exactly the same times by the way - I'll have to think of you and Jack next time we are up in the middle of hte night and see if you get our vibes!! Darrin got up with Coen at 8 and l got to sleep in till almost 10 -what a dream that was!!!

Sounds (and looks) like Jack was well and truly ready for solids... I am going to hold off with Coen for now - he doesn't seem to be bothered too much!

Oh and as Kay says, the rule is about trying any new foods in the morning just in case they have a reaction... they say do this for about 3 days and then you should no that it is right...

My next door neighbours visitors beeped just outside our place again and have woken Coen up!! I am so angry!

SuperFrog

23-06-2007, 11:39

We tried some farex this morning and Liam was not at all impressed. He kept reaching for the spoon and opening his mouth, but he didn't like it at all. I mixed it with water, so I might try mixing it with breast milk tomorrow and see if that improves the taste... if possible. Also tried a bit of banana but he was a bit worked up by that stage so I didn't push it and he didn't take it at all.

He has tasted a bit of potato and pumpkin before and seemed to really enjoy it. If he doesn't take to the rice cereal can I skip it and move straight to veggies?

Exersaucer pics from last night here (http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/superfrog1976/Liam/22%20June%202007/IMGP1750.jpg) and here (http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/superfrog1976/Liam/22%20June%202007/IMGP1751.jpg).

Bathtime fun pics here (http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/superfrog1976/Liam/22%20June%202007/IMGP1769.jpg) and here (http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/superfrog1976/Liam/22%20June%202007/IMGP1795.jpg).

Hope the links work... I haven't linked URLs to just words before.

harleyq

23-06-2007, 15:15

Liam certianly does look like he is enjoying the exersaucer (sp?)

I have abandoned my baby... well not really - l am very keen to get Coen drinking from a bottle again - and he won't take it from me - so DH has kicked me out of the room (after l accused him of not helping with this) so he can give it a try --I just don't want to be tied to him, l have two dr. appt's next week and l want to be able to leave him with mum, last week l had to take him with me - mum minded him but he had to come with me just in case he needed a feed - its a pain in the a*se, and not good for him particularly with it being so cold in Melbourne right now...
Off to my cousins for dinner tonight :fingerscrossed: that Coen behaves himself!

*Sparkles*

23-06-2007, 17:46

The exersaucer looks great Mon. We are going to a couple of baby shops tomorrow to look for one in the sales. But I want to try R in it first as he hates the Jolly Jumper so far.

We picked up the hands and feet cast today from Twinkle Toes and I'm very pleased with it. I'll take a photo in daylight. Also went shopping afterwards and I bought some AirFlow padding for R's cot which I have just spent half an hour attaching to it. Wanted it to cut out the light more than anything else.

R got a bit unsettled at the shops today as he hasn't slept much, so we came home early and will head out again tomorrow.

Lauren - I was really pleased to read your post about Jack starting (and liking) solids. I hope this helps settle him at night. Perhaps that's what he needed then?
Also, great to read your post Kay on how much solids etc, a bit of education for all of us!

Better go and make some dinner, we are having a nice hot chicken curry tonight yum. R just woke up too and seems to have his happy head on again.

Roopee

23-06-2007, 21:07

:wave: Everyone!

Ok so this post is going to be especially for lauren and anyone else who wants to know about the solids thing.
do i just give it to him in the mornings?
If that is satisfying him atm then yes. If not...you could try some in the late afternoon..early evening as well.
I have always started mine in the evenings...more thye night sleep than anything and i havent ever heard that you should give them in the mornings first...although that is a good theory. I would stick with it in the mornings for now.
should i keep giving it too him till he refuses anymore?
in short...yep. He will just eat till he's finished. When he's full..just throw whatevers left away.
when do you introduce it twice a day?
I always just gave one meal a day for the first week and then move to two.
when do you give him pumpkin etc.
Ok well...im probably going to see alot of faces like this:eek: but here goes.
They have all had the custards and fruits and the vegies after a few days of starting the solids. I would say anytime you want to but the health professionals will say otherwise lol.
Baylee started on farex...hated it and went to pumpkin that first nite so there's no hard and fast rules in it. Just if you think he is ready to start something new then go for it. My kids have all been exposed to a huge vriety very early...one of Baylee's first foods was gravy and Cody's actual first taste was ice cream with passionfruit. She loved it and that mouth looked like a sideshow clown following the spoon around:D.
Here's what Cody eats now
Farex, weetbix, custards, fruit gels, fruits, mashed potato when were having it, pureed vegies off our plate, rusks, yoghurt, ice cream, mashed banana, tinned heinz meat and vegies (the baby food variety), cup a soup lol.
So nope...there's no "wet cardboard" here:laughing:..she eats it all and loves it too.

Now all that being said...i know that as a first time mum, we're nervous and doubtfull etc etc so i get that what i do with Cody is what ALOT of people WOULD NEVER do but when it comes to your fourth, your more relaxed about things and none of my kids have ever had a reaction so im not hesitant. If they had had reactions then i wouldnt be so relaxed bout it im sure.
Its a case of if its smooth then anything goes here really.
Hope that helps you out

icugal

23-06-2007, 22:58

Thanks for the advice Roopee and my_lot... it's always valuable to get real life experiences.

The solids thing seems confusing. I remember when I did my seminar on starting solids a couple of months back. I thought I had it all figured out... but now I've forgotten everything they told us, so I guess I'll have to try to find all the information that they gave us.

I haven't given Kaelan anymore Farex lately, but tonight he was chomping on my fingers with so much enthusiasm that we pulled out a Farleys Rusk... which we brought back from the UK with us (MIL was insistent we buy a packet because that's what DF had as a child). Anyways he seemed to enjoy it.

Mon - Love the pics !!

Sandy - Good luck getting Coen to drink from the bottle.

Us - Currently I'm at work. This is the first time since I've had Kaelan that I've worked consecutive nights (I worked lastnight too).. and as a result, I think I only saw K for about 2 hours today... I'm kinda missing him right now !!

My dogs are causing me a bit of trouble at the moment. Lastnight when I left the house to come to work, the dogs pooed all over Kaelans playmat... and then today, unbeknownst to me, they had peed on the foam alphabet mat I have the loungeroom floor. I only found this out because the pee must have seeped underneath the foam onto the ceramic tiles which then made the whole thing slippery like butter. I went to walk over the mat and it slipped out from under me and I landed heavily on the my right side onto the extremely hard floor. Needless to say, I have a very sore right shoulder, hip and knee... plus I whacked my head and seem to have bruised my ribs. I'm actually in a bit of pain atm... but elected to come to work tonight anyway. Thankfully I've been given two relatively easy patients... hence the reason why I'm on Bubhub :)

When I fell, I landed right near Kaelan (who was happily bouncing around in the Jolly Jumper).. and the impact scared the hell out of him and he started screaming. DF who was in the other room heard the bang, then heard the baby scream... so I think he thought that Kaelan had injured himself. I just thank the Lord above that I wasn't carrying Kaelan when I slipped... I dread to think what injuries he might have sustained.

So anyways, DF and I spent the evening pulling the alphabet mat apart and washing and drying every letter. Now I just have to figure out how to keep the dogs away... because they seem to be acting out at the moment :thumbsdown:

SuperFrog

24-06-2007, 09:01

A couple of days ago I was saying that I wanted to bring Liam's last feed forward in the evening as 10pm was too late. Well I think L must have overheard me. I fed him at 7pm last night and decided to wrap him and put him in bed at 7.30pm, hoping that he would sleep through. Normally he would wake for his last feed later in the evening.

Well, he slept through until almost 10am. That's over 14 hours! My boobs are so full this morning. I wonder if his long sleep has anything to do with all those lactation boosting cookies I've been stuffing my face with??!

Got a chance to do some sewing last night for the first time in ages. Took up the hem on my pants (not so exciting), and finally made the blanket for my MIL that she asked for ages ago. She does so much for us, so it's good that I can do something for her.

Great to hear some real advice on solids. Will be trying again with the rice cereal again after lunch. If he still isn't impressed then we might leave it for a bit longer.

Heading off to Ikea soon to look at a few things. Hope it isn't too busy.

Penny - Bad dogs! Do you think they are jealous of Kaelan? Our cat has been particularly annoying lately. I'm sure it is his way of saying "Don't forget about me!".

LMenz

24-06-2007, 09:20

She loved it and that mouth looked like a sideshow clown following the spoon around:D

LOL....Thank you Tanya and Kay for the info - It was most helpful

Heading off to Ikea soon to look at a few things. Hope it isn't too busy

Mon, we are too. I want to look at the high chair...might see you there

US - Well last night Jack didn't wake for a feed until 5.30am :smiliedance: He briefly woke at 11.30 but that was due to a coughing fit....DH fixed him up and then I didn't hear a peep out of him. I still woke every 3 or so hours though and at 4.30am I had to express one boob which I thought was about to explode. I'm not sure whether he slept from the farax or the fact that he's a bit sick. Tonight will be a good indication.....OMG how good would it be if it was the farax???

Even though I didn't get much sleep I'm so happy that he slept....I hope I'm not jinxing myself :fingerscrossed:

Sandy - How did Coen go with the bottle? Good Luck with your appointments this week too

my_lot

24-06-2007, 11:01

see, i knew cody wouldnt be eating wet cardboard!! :laughing:

penny- we have door gates blocking the pup from elis floor play area. can you do that?

mon- what a great sleep! 14 hours!! i remember when id say to dp that id had that much sleep- and i was talking about over 3 nights! we get a 6 hour block out of him now and think thats fantastic!

***wondering how jens going***

were off to the beach. eli goes in the ergo on dps back and i have the dog on the lead.. we will probably explore the lighthouse and look for dolphins..

harleyq

24-06-2007, 16:18

Penny - oh - that is my nightmare, falling with Coen - hope your not covered in bruises tomorrow!!!

Coen refused the bottle from me, but took it from Darrin - so l will try him again tomorrow...

Congratulations to Liam and Jack for good sleeps!!! Thats wonderful news!

I went so see one of my girlfriends today and had heaps of fun! We had lunch played with the kids (6, 3 and Coen) went for a walk... Then l dragged DH shopping to Northland - it is sooooooo not fun taking him shopping - he makes me list what l want to look at before we get there and won't let me go anywhere else once we're there!!!

Kay, Tanya -- thanks for the solids & Chrissie pressos info!

Kay - do you have the little touch Leappad? Would you recommend it??? where do you get the stories from and roughly how much are they? Thank you so much for the Christmas present ideas (and Penny for bringing it up)... it started me thinking that l don't want a whole house full of presents for Coen come Christmas - so l was thinking of maybe getting one of those leappad thingies and suggesting to anyone who wants to buy him something that they might like to get him one of the stories???

Purplebird

24-06-2007, 17:00

Kay and Tanya - it's great to get all that information about the solids, thanks - much better than reading a text book. Eloise is so not interested in food at all at the moment though. I can't wait til we hit 6 months though, I'm pinning all my hopes on solids helping her to sleep through.

Lauren - Go Jack! I hope that's him sleeping through now. He was obviously ready for solids wasn't he? what food are you going to try next? Let us know how he goes.

Mon - what a great sleep from Liam! that's amazing - must be some good mummy milk you've got there! Wonder if it was the cookies?! I love those pictures of Liam too. Your MIL sounds like a rather overbearing type of person, much like mine who I'm off to see soon.

Penny - You poor thing, I hope you are in less pain now after your slip. Thank goodness you didn't have Kaelen in your arms. Our cats are also being very anti-social since Eloise came along, they are deffo attention seeking.

Hels - We went to the Baby Gallery yesterday and spent a huge amount of money. I love it there - it's my new best shop! Eloise now has a new cot and car seat. I hope those new tablets you have help to relieve your migraines. Can't wait to see a picture of Reece's hands and feet (!) - I'm so disappointed with ours for the money we spent. The picture she took and used was not good and when I questioned her she told me she'd already deleted all the others she took on the day!

Juzzy sounds like you had a great shopping spree. I think there is now a Cotton On Kids at S'land, if not there's one at DFO down the road where they have all the discounts :thumbsup:

Sandy - how's Coen going with the bottle? I'm also about to embark on the same mission! In many ways I really regret being such a lazy cow and not trying expressing and bottle feeding more regularly from an earlier age. Oh well, we will get there in the end. I'm taking all my expressing and sterilising stuff to the UK with me, LOL. Will keep trying every few days now. I've got the Pigeon teats to try, is that what you're using too?

We got one of those exersaucers too - got it on good ol' ebay. Eloise loves it! I'm cosidering a jolly jumper next me thinks - poor love will have thigh and calf muscles of steel after all that walking and bouncing!

Incidently has anyone travelled across time zones with a bub this age? Just how awful was the adjustment on the return home? I'm wondering how long the hell will last when we get back (you know, day is night and night is day stuff). Penny, I know you took Kaelen and you said it took about 3 weeks. I'm getting a bit scared now - on the other hand maybe a drastic change is just what we need, LOL.

Well, I think I might have to face up to the fact that I've got PND :gloomy: I've been feeling fine, but the past few weeks it's crept up on me. It's so hard to tell if I'm sleep deprived or if it's more and some days I feel fine. However, I've really noticed lately that I'm not myself in social situations - I just feel so flat and I can barely raise a smile. People must think I'm such a miserable cow. I'm going to the doc's this week because I don't want to slide down any further and there is no way I want to let it affect my caring for Eloise. Just admitting it and stopping trying to put a brave face on things is a big relief.

LMenz

24-06-2007, 18:24

Then l dragged DH shopping to Northland - it is sooooooo not fun taking him shopping - he makes me list what l want to look at before we get there and won't let me go anywhere else once we're there!!!

:laughing: Oh dear....sounds a bit like my DH. Did you get any bargains?

Well, I think I might have to face up to the fact that I've got PND. Just admitting it and stopping trying to put a brave face on things is a big relief.

:hugs: You did seem a bit down on Thursday........Could it just be sleep deprivation? I know I've felt so tired I could almost fall over and you've been doing it for so much longer. I hope your trip will give you a break of some sorts and then once your back you can tackle the sleeping head on.

US - We had such a lovely day....went to Ikea and bought the highchair for Jack. It's definately "no frills" but for $50 it will do the job fine. Picked up a few other bits and pieces including a hippo rattle which was a big hit...I took some pics so will post them later

Jack has developed a very bad cough today and is wheezing a bit when he breathes...I'm going to book him into his doctor tomorrow to be safe. Poor little mite has had the worst luck with sickness.

SuperFrog

24-06-2007, 18:32

Lauren - Didn't see you at Ikea today, but I'm not surprised... there were so many people there! Even though I had a pram I was still cursing other people with prams. Some people have no consideration for others. If I need to stop I will try and park the pram off to the side, not just stop in the middle of the walkway so no one else can get through. We were looking at some flooring options, and even though it was a bit cheaper there the quality was very disappointing. Bought a nice toothbrush holder/soap dispenser set for our bathroom though, so i didn't walk away with nothing.

The pic of Jack and his first solids made me laugh. We have exactly the same outfit, bib and spoons. Maybe that's why they make such a cute couple... they are so similar! Oh, and I just realised that I have a photo of Liam almost exactly the same as your avatar pic... same clothes and everything! I took it a while ago but only just noticed the similarity. Jack looks happier in your photo though.

Liam wants to be Jack (http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/superfrog1976/Liamontummy.jpg)

Hope Jack is feeling better soon.

Kay - How was the beach? Cold?? Did you see any dolphins?

Sandy - Did you end up buying anything exciting while you were out shopping? The LeapPad sounds like a good idea, and he'll get a lot of use out of it too.

Hannah - Sorry to hear you are feeling down. At least you are being honest with yourself and are willing to get some help. Big hugs! :hugs:

Well I'm about to bath and feed Liam. Hope he has another long sleep tonight... I could do with another sleep in!

my_lot

24-06-2007, 18:34

sandy- yes we have the little touch. we also have the leap pad and a leapster hand held...i love them! oh and the kids do too! we got the leap pad about 4 years ago and all three kids use it.

i just got some books for the little leap the other day from kmart for $3!! i was thinking they must be going out now to be that cheap. i got the unit for $40 (they are $80-$90)

the books are around $20- big W has a good range. i see they now have pooh and dora.

the unit comes with 2 double sided cards that are shapes, colours, songs ect i find this is better for the age he is now than the books. it came with one book. the book is not as strong as i thought it was going to be (for a baby toy that it is) thats about the only downside...

the unit does not close up like the leap pad. it has a cushion on the bottom for them to sit it on their laps...and the unit comes in pink and blue.

my ds is 5 and really, really loves this. he can follow along with it well and becasue hes used the leap pad so much he has it all worked out (you have to touch the stop, go and turn off for changing pages and starting a new activity ..

i plan to send eli to school the year he turns 6 so ill be in the same situation im in now with ds. hes craving books he can read that are not too hard and this leap is better for that than the older one we have. so im thinking we will get a lot of use out of it with eli- right up to age 5 or 6...(mind you my 8 year old has read the books too!)

if you do end up getting one -thats a good idea for christmas- asking for books for it. my kids get gift cards from their relos so i get them to get a game for gameboy, leapster, leap pad, vtech ect and then take a pic of them with it and send it in a hand made thankyou card...people like it that they have something lasting and not a crapy toy.

LMenz

24-06-2007, 19:20

The pic of Jack and his first solids made me laugh. We have exactly the same outfit, bib and spoons. Maybe that's why they make such a cute couple... they are so similar! Oh, and I just realised that I have a photo of Liam almost exactly the same as your avatar pic... same clothes and everything! I took it a while ago but only just noticed the similarity. Jack looks happier in your photo though.

:laughing: That's so cute! They are similar aren't they?

Here are the pics I took today....who would have thought a $5 rattle from Ikea would be such a big hit

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u299/lmenz/IMG_1908.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u299/lmenz/IMG_1899.jpg

Well I'm off to watch Grey's Anatomy... hope everyone has sweet dreams :)

*Sparkles*

24-06-2007, 20:57

Just a quickie from me as I'm about to head off to bed. We tried to get to The Baby Gallery today but they closed at 4.30pm which is when we turned up, never mind. Had at look at the exersaucer and tried R in it and he seemed to like it so I am now shopping around for one.

Sandy - I know of a website that sells the leap pad thing for around $49, not sure how that compares to eBay or retail?

Here's a photo of Reece's hands and feet casts;

Hands and Feet (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Reece/HandsandFeet.jpg)

Roopee

25-06-2007, 07:22

ziggy29

25-06-2007, 07:45

Roopee - he timed that well with school holidays didnt he?:detective:

Purplebird - big hugs to you. :hugs: admitting to yourself that you are not yourself is a huge step. WHen i finally admitted it i realised i hadnt felt happy inside for ages. good luck and let us know regularly how you are feeling.

Penny - OMG you poor thing. get lots of rest from anything strenous and ice, ice, ice. i have a huge fear of falling as i am so clumsy. i dont have dogs but are you concerned that they could show their jealousy towards K in other ways?

Lauren - good work with the solids. i have made up cubes of steamed and mashed fruit and veg for lily. freeze in ice cube trays and i can just use a liitle at a time. as a first time mum i am really strict (also a bit wary of anything new after our reaction to the needles). D1 - D4 rice cereal in the morning/lunch; then added apple for 3 times then carrot then pear (every 3 times). once you have introduced one then you can do combinations. lilys favorite is farex and pear. we arent doing it every day yet just because it takes a while. but i try every 1-2 days and am ready to ramp up to twice a day when lily wants.

Me - had a fantastic weekend. Dh looked after lil on saturday except for feeds. i was around but it was his job to entertain, change and carry her around. i did some exercise, gardening, shops, sleep and star trek - bliss.
bestie and her dh came for dinner and we played settlers of katan.
on sunday - set ip mil new computer and then went to daisy hill to see the koalas and saw them and kangaroos too.
i feel refreshed and happy. horray!!

my_lot

25-06-2007, 07:53

tan- i dont have any ideas. maybe lock them in the basement and slide em a bit of bread and water every now and then? we went and got some match sticks yesterday and we played a box game where they put down one stick each (has to be touching the one already down) and try to make a box but not let the next person get one. when they make a box they put their colour button in it. we play 5x5 and who ever has the most buttons at the end wins. cheap easy game. your boys should enjoy that. you probably wont like my ideas for bays age. i used to do really really messy things like make gak and sit them in the empty bath tub with it! ice-cream box with food colouring and a little dish washing liquid, water and a straw!

really im thinking oh cr@p three days would do my head in! my dp wants to go to canada and he wont go for less than 3 weeks!! ive told him he has to wait til eli is over 1.

SuperFrog

25-06-2007, 07:57

Ziggy - I LOVE Settlers of Catan!

Liam only had 4 feeds again yesterday and slept from 8pm until 8am. I think we have a new pattern here. Is 4 breast feeds in 24 hours enough?

LMenz

25-06-2007, 10:25

Poor little Jack has Bronchiolitis :crying: I got up to him at 3.15am and after his feed he was wheezing so badly I got DH up and rang Nurse On Call....she told us to take him straight to the hospital as he was using his stomach muscles to help him breath. So off we went to the Children's Hospital at 4am. I was so scared I was in tears when we got there.

He's ok... just a mild case - I would hate to see a serious case. He's still feeding really well so hopefully it will pass quite quickly. He's just gone back to sleep now. I really hope he will sleep the day away so he feels better. The doc thinks today will be his worst day.

Sandy - I have PMed you :)

SuperFrog

25-06-2007, 10:51

Oh Lauren, how scary for you and Jack. Liam had this a few weeks ago so I know how you feel. I just hope you and your DH don't catch it too.

Liam lost his appetite for a few days, and the doc said to watch out for signs of dehydration.

Be sure to keep him out of the cold... the cold air makes the wheezing and coughing a lot worse. But also be careful of having the heating on too high as well.

I used the baby fess saline and aspirator to clear his nose. He hated it and screamed like I was torturing him, but it did help him to breath easier, especially when feeding.

Enough advice from me. Big hugs. :hugs:

LMenz

25-06-2007, 11:03

Thanks Mon...and thanks for telling me about it yesterday too. It made me much more aware. I will try the saline although I haven't used it yet as I don't want to distress him anymore but I guess it's helping him in the long run. How long did Liam's cough last for? Jack's cough is just horrific

No Mother's Group for me today and I think I'll be having a quiet week at home......

I better have a shower while he's still sleeping

SuperFrog

25-06-2007, 11:50

Lauren... I'm home for a while this afternoon if you want to chat via msn.

Liam's cough lasted a little over two weeks, although days 3-5 were the worst. He only had a mild case but the doctor said the cough and wheeze could still last a few months... we were really lucky.

It is highly contagious in the early stages, so make sure you wash your hands even more than usual... you really don't want to get it yourself, trust me.

Roopee

25-06-2007, 12:45

blubber

25-06-2007, 13:28

Ok so DH has just left for a 3 day work course( a whole 40 mins away:rolleyes:...me thinks the company has too much money) and wont be home unitl wednesday night!!

Anyone got any tips on how i am going to survive being at home with 4 kids alone for 3 days???? I do believe that i will be certifiably insane cone Wednesday night!:detective:

Anyone.........anyone.......anyone??????????

Although i only have two not four, DH goes away regularly. I hate it and so does he. Besides the obvious walk to the park to get out of the house it's general kids stuff to occupy the time.

YOu might actually find the older ones are helpfull with bub which will give you the time to get the day to day sh*t done. That's where i struggle, seem to chase my tail all day. In a positive once all in bed at night it is most rewarding to sit there and be alone for a bit.

Liam only had 4 feeds again yesterday and slept from 8pm until 8am. I think we have a new pattern here. Is 4 breast feeds in 24 hours enough?

Exactly what Elly is doing. Have started solids the past few days so will be a test i guess. Problem is she hasn't slept well for about 5 nights. I hate waking her during the day but STILL each day is so different from the previous one. SHe has never had a problem sleeping during the day and has had some great nights but they are inconsistent. Makes working out what is going on so dam difficult.

Will this darling bub ever work out something that will slightly resemble a routine.
She is happy, laughing, not sick???

We went from a rollover feed when she was feeding 6 10 2 then she changed everything and was having a feed at 3.30pmish but needing to go back to bed at 5.30ish and then get up around 7.00pm. SO last feed not long after that. SOme nights she slept from 8.30ish until 6.30ish others we have had to feed her...arrrgghhhhhh
Just a vent of frustration but if abyine can she some light i would be forever greatful.

Lauren: hope Jack recovers and you too for that matter. I, thankfully have not had to do what you experienced but just hearing about it or seeing it my heart goes out to you.

Purplebird: Hang in there. First step is being brave ans strong enough to search for some answers and you are there.

Hels: the feet/hands thingy looks great. I was going to do one for Elly but mpther guilt get the better of me becasue we didn't do one for Mia.

Well we are going away for about 5 days. The planning is horendous. I'm usually pretty relaxed but with big DD so fussy with her food and bub DD just starting i think i will just pack the pantry cupboard. Bottles and spoons and bowls and milk cups and water bottles and snacks and nappies and clothes and bibs..lala you get my drift. We have actually done this many times with DD1 but now two...arrggh.
Any tips to minimise the load?

Cheers

juzzy

25-06-2007, 15:37

Ok just need to vent a little.

I was supposed to have an appointment this morning at 10am to see the Doctor. Got there just before my appointment and took a seat. Waited an hour. Then had the receptionist say "Oh sorry, the doctor has been held up can we fit you in at 1pm?" I was annoyed as i had to cancel my plans i had this afternoon (sorry Hels, Joanne and Hannah) but needed to see the Doc so i agreed. Went home, fed Cassidy then headed back at 12.45. Sit there until 2pm. Cassidy's crying cause shes sick of being in the pram, im getting angry cause i still hadnt been seen and id spent the whole day at the medical centre. Receptionist comes up to me again cause she can tell im annoyed. She says, "shouldnt be too long now".... another 45 mins ticks past. Feed cassi in that time as shes hysterical. Receptionist comes up again "Oh we have to reschedule. The Doctor cant fit you in". Well i went off. Walk out of there with an appointment for 12.30 tomorrow and have been promised that as soon as i walk in there i will be seen. We will wait and see about that one.

Anyway. Im going to see them about PND. I have been battling on for so long now that its just too much. I dont enjoy life anymore and i am just so angry at the world that im finding it hard to function. Dont get me wrong i love Cassidy and everything, i just dont know how to keep going anymore. It is really getting on top of me to a point that i dont feel "right" anymore. I used to be so positive, now i am just so angry and hateful. My moods go up and down and the tiniest thing can set me off. So i guess its about time i see someone about it.

DP is in denial though, he doesnt think i need to see someone about it. But i have to. I cant go on like this. I dont want to do something i will regret if it got worse. Id never hurt Cassidy though. I just dont want to be angry and upset anymore.

Roopee

25-06-2007, 16:24

:hugs:juzzy! What an ordeal at the Dr's for you! I hope your seen on time tomorrow!

Thanks everyone for your tips....it was more a vent really. He doesnt want to go and i dont want him to go but i get cranky when he has these great opportunities and he just doesnt appreciate them. I would give my left leg for 2 nights away and he's moaning about going:rolleyes:.

Plus i had a argument with the MIL last night...she hates me i swear..oh but in the nicest possible way of course:rolleyes:. And now she expects me to make her a b'day cake! Oh i'll make it alright...straight off to the supermarket for a feddo frog ice cream one! She is lactose intolerant and so is the SIL:D.

Anyway..im off to get the kids some dinner and them bath and bed them by 8pm tonight so i can have a bath and chill with the remote in my hands and a wine in the other!

Roopee

25-06-2007, 16:30

blubber- i'll be back later with some tips for you!:yes: Travelled to Fiji with two kids so i have some good ones!:wave:

*Sparkles*

25-06-2007, 17:49

Juz - Sorry to hear about your day :hugs: I got your message this morning but I didn't have time to reply, I ended up being 30 mins late as it was! I hope things are more positive for you tomorrow at the Dr's.

Hannah - Babylove nappies are on special in Coles for $25. I didn't buy any today as I was pretty laidened up by that stage lol.
I didn't leave Southland until 6pm. I thought R had lost his dummy again so I bought a cheapo one from KMart. As soon as I put it in he fell asleep, he was so tired. He then slept the whole way home too. I went home a different way and got home in 40 mins which was good for peak hour traffic.

Thanks for a nice day Jo and Hannah, as usual there wasn't enough time to see it all but I will definitely go back there again.

Better go and feed R and then us, will try to make it into chat later if I can.

LMenz

25-06-2007, 18:54

Thanks for your well wishes ladies......

Terrible day here, Jack slept on and off. His coughing is sooo bad he almost chokes on it. It took an hour to get him down tonight...poor mite, I just feel so useless :( Not sure how he will sleep or me for that matter...I'm checking on him constantly just to make sure he's still breathing. I might even set the porta cot up in our room later

Juz - Hope you can see your doc tomorrow. Well done on seeking some help.

Purplebird

25-06-2007, 19:02

First of all a big Thank you to everyone for your messages, they all help a lot :) I now have anti-d's and I can't wait til they kick in. When the GP asked if a good sleep would make me feel better and I could honestly answer 'no', I knew I was doing the right thing by seeking help. I can't believe how low I've got and how long Ive let this go on. the GP wants me (all 3 of us) to go to residential parenting (sleep) place when we get back from the UK to break all our 'bad' habits at once. I'm in 2 minds about it, but I'm going to think about it when I'm away.

Lauren :hugs: for you and Jack - poor lil man. I hope he recovers very soon, it must be so awful.

Anyway. Im going to see them about PND. I have been battling on for so long now that its just too much. I dont enjoy life anymore and i am just so angry at the world that im finding it hard to function. Dont get me wrong i love Cassidy and everything, i just dont know how to keep going anymore. It is really getting on top of me to a point that i dont feel "right" anymore. I used to be so positive, now i am just so angry and hateful. My moods go up and down and the tiniest thing can set me off. So i guess its about time i see someone about it.

DP is in denial though, he doesnt think i need to see someone about it. But i have to. I cant go on like this. I dont want to do something i will regret if it got worse. Id never hurt Cassidy though. I just dont want to be angry and upset anymore.

:hugs: Juzzy - You really are doing the right thing by seeking help - even if DP doesn't think you need it. You know yourself better than anyone. Sorry to hear your GP is rubbish - I hope things start to get sorted out tomorrow. I know what you're going through as I have been to the doc's this morning too. Sorry, I PMed you before I read your post about your appauling day : (

Blubber - I can sympathise a bit on the packing - we're just getting ready to go off tothe UK on Thursday for 2 weeks. Even though Ive only got one little person I can't believe how much extra stuff she needs- it's amazing. I hope you have a good break - where are you going?

Thanks very much Hels and Jo for a very pleasant arvo - and special thanks to Hels for the dummy - masses of pommie chocolate coming your way!!

I really appreciate being included in the Melb meets and getting to know all you lovely ladies even though I'm a latecomer to the group. Thanks again :D

Roopee

25-06-2007, 19:44

purplebird- you sounds so much more positive! Happy! I hope your on the road to recovery and can start to enjoy your little family now:hugs:

lauren- hope Jack gets better really soon. I know when Riley had it we were told to elevate his mattress a little so he's more upright. I helps with the cr@p not running down the backs of their throats. Worth a try!

blubber- some tips for you!
*Roll dont fold your clothes.
*If your taking food- take it out of the boxes. Boxes are a waste of space and take up too much room.
*If you can buy food where your going..do that. It saves carting it there and home again.
*If you can wash you'l really only need to take three sets of clothes each. One to wear, one to wash and one to spare.
*I use those green bags from the supermarket (for car trips) and if it doesnt fit in it it doesnt go. Each person has their own bag for their clothes. It is easier to pack a few smaller bags than one or two big ones. You can place them on top of other things and shove them inot the sides of the car etc..they even fit on the floor in front of the seats.
Hope that helps!

Ok so i havent seen Ren, Heather, butterflymumma, squiggles, MrsP and i cant think who else atm around for awhile. Could you all just pop in and let us know your ok if your reading?
Also has anyone heard from leashie? How is she going?

harleyq

25-06-2007, 20:18

how's Coen going with the bottle? I'm also about to embark on the same mission! In many ways I really regret being such a lazy cow and not trying expressing and bottle feeding more regularly from an earlier age. Oh well, we will get there in the end. I'm taking all my expressing and sterilising stuff to the UK with me, LOL. Will keep trying every few days now. I've got the Pigeon teats to try, is that what you're using too?
We are just using the regular Avent teats, l was going to buy the new Tommee Tippee bottles that someone in my mothers group recommended - but DH got Coen to drink pretty easily out of the Avent bottles (and we have 4 of those) so l figured l'd keep my money and see how we get on with those... will express a bit today if l can so DH can try again tonight... (he flatly refuses to take it from me)!!!
Hannah - sorry to hear that you're feeling flat - but its good that you are going to go get it checked out - you have been doing it pretty tough on the sleep side - maybe the total refresh with the trip will help things out... happy :sleeping:

Kay - thanks for the info on the Leap Pad!

Lauren - shopping with DH sucks - no didn't get any bargains cos l didn't get to look at anything! :hugs: to Jack, hope he feels better soon! I didn't realise how serious broncholitis was - that sounds horrific - you poor thing - if you need anything please let me know - anything really!!! I will give you a call later in the week just to see how things are going...

Hels - Can you PM me the address of the website with the Leappads? Toys R Us have them on sale at the moment for $40, but they only have about 5 left and they are all at the Frankston store - and l just don't know that l will be able to get down there in the next few days... they won't transfer between stores!!! Oh and by the way l asked my inlaws where the mat came from - BabyCo...

Marianne - that list sounds exhausting - l think DH and l had better plan our holiday quickly before Coen starts on solids and we need all that ****!!! Good luck & enjoy your break!

Juzzy - :hugs: Just what you needed!!! Good luck for tomorrow and good on you for taking the first step!!!
Sharon - l also just wanted to comment on how upbeat you sound these days - all seems to be going well for you - which is really great!!!

juzzy

25-06-2007, 20:38

thanks for your support guys, feeling better now. Told DP what happened. He bought home fish and chips and beer to make me feel better. He can be lovely sometimes.

Sandy - i live round the corner from Frankston and will be going to TRU tomorrow if u want me to get you one?

LMenz

26-06-2007, 08:35

I really appreciate being included in the Melb meets and getting to know all you lovely ladies even though I'm a latecomer to the group. Thanks again

Your not really a latecomer....we all shared our pregnancies together. Great to have you and Eloise around....:)

lauren- hope Jack gets better really soon. I know when Riley had it we were told to elevate his mattress a little so he's more upright. I helps with the cr@p not running down the backs of their throats. Worth a try!

Thanks Tan....his cot is already raised because of his spewing issues. It's just awful isn't it? I feel so sorry for him. I know how cr@p I feel when I'm sick so I can only imagine how Jack feels

We are just using the regular Avent teats, l was going to buy the new Tommee Tippee bottles that someone in my mothers group recommended Lauren - shopping with DH sucks - no didn't get any bargains cos l didn't get to look at anything! to Jack, hope he feels better soon! I didn't realise how serious broncholitis was - that sounds horrific - you poor thing - if you need anything please let me know - anything really!!! I will give you a call later in the week just to see how things are going...

Thank you Sandy :) I have some pidgeon teats if you wanted to try one? They are meant to be the closest thing to a nipple...very soft apparently. Once were not infectious anymore I'll bring one around for you.

US - Jack seems a bit better this morning...more smiles and his cough isn't as chesty. Still wheezing though :( He was only up twice during the night but woke at 6am and wouldn't settle so he came back to bed with me and slept for another 2 hours...and so did I!! I think I may need it too as I'm feeling a bit stuffy this morning.....the last thing I need is to get sick as well

Have a great day everyone :)

ziggy29

26-06-2007, 08:43

I can update you on a few bubhubbers lost in space.

Saw Nina, Leashie and butterfly mamma the other day at a brisbane meet up. All are doing well but are extremely busy. There bubs are growing and just beautiful.

I wont tell you their news until i check that it is ok as i wouldnt want to ruin the fun for them if they are still reading along.

I NEED NEW CLOTHES. I have come to terms with the fact that until i stop breastfeeding my body is not going to return to me (if it ever does). i am so sick of wearing pants that fall down and show off bum crack and little tshirts which are strectched upwards over bib boobies exposing flabby stretch maked tummy. yuck. so it is a shopping trip for me today! yeah!

Sandy - you are right i am heaps more upbeat these days. i think the PND is starting to pass. i decided not to take anti-d as i am still BF. i have been having councilling which is definatlely helping get my head sorted out. Hope you go ok at the Dr juzzy and good on you purple bird.

Merlion

26-06-2007, 10:34

I'm here. Daniel just turned 4 months. He's fully breastfed and hasn't had any solids and I don't expect to give him any till at least 6 months except when my stupid uncle who should have known better put a bit of his capucino ice-cream in Dan's mouth to taste GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :eek: :banghead: .

I'm really sick I have viral pneumonia but thankfully am slowly recovering. I landed up in hospital on Sunday as I couldn't breathe so hubbie called the ambulance and they rushed me up to the hospital while DH followed in the car. Got there and waited around for nearly 6 hours and was given some anti-biotics and was told to get some bed rest. Have done and feel so much better today.

Daniel has flatly refused to take a bottle of EBM from me, DH, my mum or anyone else. It scares me especially like Sunday when he was hungry and it hurt for me to sit up for long stages and DH had to hold Daniel to me so he could have a feed. I guess its my fault as I refused to try him on a bottle. I have about 10 bottles of EBM in the freezer so if they don't get used up soon DD will get it

blubber

26-06-2007, 11:31

Tanya: Thanx for the tips, it does reconfirm that i wasn't going completly loopy thinking of the things we need. I too use the green bags and probably limit myself it just seems there is so much stuff. I like to lead a simplistic life but it doesn't always work out that way.

We went away for the weekend a fortnight ago and survived so i am confident we will this time. Just a little daunting when you stay with other people who do not have kids. Although they are my cousins so they should understand.

Sandy: i hope i didn't scare you about the packing thing. I may have exagerated a bit...well maybe not but you just have to be a little organised.

Hannah: nowhere exciting, just Adelaide..( i can here the Adelaide jokes coming thick and fast now from everyone!!!)), about a 6 hour drive from Broken Hill. Both girls are good travellers, Mia just talks the whole way and Elly crusiers between a feed a look around and some sleep.

Juzzy: better luck today and i would be demanding a bulk billing with a "voucher" for a years supply of visits. Just not good enough but good on DH for soothing you through.

US:aarrgghhhh what a night, we had four feeds and two lots of solids yesterday, a great bath and down about 7.45pm. We decided against the rollover to see if the solids made a difference. Had to feed Elly at 11.20 and so out of character she took two hours to go back to sleep. She was then up at 6.00am.

Well busy morning, Mia to Child Care, had to go down the street and buy a heater, back home, feed and food for Elly, SIL rang to have our weekly b*tch about the family and i now need to have a shower so i can go have my haircut.
Elly asleep now but will have to drag her out with me. Hope she behaves or i'll get the hairdresser to get the clippers out on her non existant hair..(hope that doesn't sound tortouring)

harleyq

26-06-2007, 11:45

Hey gals, I hope everyone is having a good day so far! Mum is over and cleaning my house (she has restricted me to off my feet) - which is very nice, l will be heading off to my gyno appt. in about 10 minutes...:fingerscrossed:
Merlion - you poor thing!!! I feel so sorry for mums with small bubs who are sick - its bl00dy hard work!!!
Sharon - shopping!!!! Yeah!!!@ Don't take your DH with you if he is anything like mine - they are just so impatient!!
Lauren - SO SO glad that Jack seems a bit better today - that is great news, and great news that you were both able to get some more sleep this morning
Hannah - there are a few people who joined the group a bit later - but who cares - all our bubs are the same age and its been great to meet you!!! Have a wonderful trip - are you feeling organised???

Roopee

26-06-2007, 11:51

LMenz

26-06-2007, 12:06

Hmmm Juz...that sounds suss to me! So spill.......which one of them is pregnant?! Or girls if your reading...get in here and tell us!:yes::laughing:

LOL Tan.....I was thinking the exact same thing!

*Sparkles*

26-06-2007, 13:48

Just catching up on a few personals as I haven't had time to read the thread properly until now.

Penny - Hope you are ok after your fall? Have you decided what to do with the dogs to stop it happening again? Sounds like they were marking their territory (if dogs do that, I know that cats do :p )

Lauren - Scarry, scarry, scarry :hugs: I hope Jack is a bit better today? You seem to be having a run of bad luck, let's hope things improve now :fingerscrossed:

Sandy - Hope the gyno appt goes well and how nice to have someone to do the housework! Send her over here afterwards ;)

Hannah and Blubber - Here's wishing you both safe and happy trips to UK and Adelaide.

Juz - Let us know how you get on today at the Dr's?

Us - Reece was very unsettled last night, he seemed to wake every 4 hours so I was in and out of bed alot. This morning he brought back up nearly a full bottle. It was like a scene from the Exorcist! I'm not sure who was more shocked, me or him. I had to clean it out of his nose, ears, face and the bed. Anyway, needless to say I think he is a bit unwell so I gave him some panadol and he's had lots of sleep since and another bottle that he kept down so far.

I have just had a lot of fun buying some new clothes for R from Oztion, in size 00 for now and summer things in size 0. I got alot of designer gear like Osh Kosh, Pumpkin Patch and some great Ka- Boosh bathers for when we go to Qld in Sept. The whole lot came to approx $30.

I think I had better get off the 'puter now before I buy anything else. I am already bidding on an exersaucer on eBay!