Wonky Willy (Hypospadia) Question

[lukaelmo]

I have only just read this thread now, as when little dude was born I didn't think twice about circumcision, I knew that I wouldn't have it done.

Funnily enough, little dude was born with undescended testes and hypospadia, and specialists at the hospital are monitoring his wee bits to see what happens. If the testes do not descend it is recommended that the dude have an operation to bring them down.

Our specialist has also recommended that regardless of whether the dude needs surgery to bring down his testes or not, because of the look of his penis he should have an operation to fix the hypospadia. The operation would be like a fancy circumcision. This would only be for cosmetic reasons.

When I asked why, the doctor said that little dude's willy looks different and kind of bent out of shape. Not having seen other little boys' willys, I have got no idea if his looks any different.

I guess that my dilemma is, if he is having his testes brought down, should we just go ahead with the other cosmetic procedure at the same time? The next dilemma would be if his testes do descend, do we do the cosmetic procedure anyway?

Please understand, the cosmetic procedure would be for the dude only, not for his father nor I. I would not like him to be worried about his willy as he gets older because it looks funny or different.

Wow, well done if you stayed the distance for this one!

[lukaelmo]

I just read through my post and hope you understand why I put it in the circumcision thread.

The cosmetic procedure would basically be a fancy circumcision performed under anaesthetic.

[xkwzit]

Hi Luka
I understand why you're here, but I think if we want to chat a lot, we might move this to its own thread.

I don't have any personal experience, but had a close friend whose son had a hypospadia. She wasn't concerned about it either (so what if he looks a bit different?), but her doc also suggested it could cause fertility problems later in life. I don't know how real a concern that is (and its second hand :rolleyes: ), but I guess it makes sense if it impacts on getting his boys to the right spot:confused: .

While she had the main op done, they did not do anything to his foreskin.

Anyone let me know if you'd rather move this conversation elsewhere.

Cheers

[Mother Duck]

Anyone let me know if you'd rather move this conversation elsewhere.

Cheers

I think it is appropriate to discuss on this thread - but happy to follow if moved elsewhere

Luka - I am not sure about the medical details of what you describe ... but ...

If it is any help to you I had a boyfriend who's 'willy was wonky' - for want of a better term! It was never an issue for me and didn't seem to bother him. Sorry if too much info, I divulge for your benefit!

What is the possibility of your DS having the procedure done later if he wishes to? - or is it only 'correctable' while he is a bub?

[lukaelmo]

If it is any help to you I had a boyfriend who's 'willy was wonky' - for want of a better term! It was never an issue for me and didn't seem to bother him. Sorry if too much info, I divulge for your benefit!

Hey Jessie, this is the type of comment that is really helpful, and not TMI at all. After all, the only reason I would get it done is so that it wouldn't be an issue for him to have a wonky willy later.

The specialist's reasoning in getting the correction done now was so that little dude wouldn't have issues with it when he started comparing willys with other boys - I guess that starts pretty early on. I feel that it would probably be my decision until he is around 14 or so, after that he is probably old enough to have it done himself.

Is it going to upset a little boy that his willy is different to the other boys? Until it comes to that how can I know the answer?

Anyway, everyone keeps calling me Luka - I am Alison, little dude is Luka!

[lukaelmo]

Hi Luka
I understand why you're here, but I think if we want to chat a lot, we might move this to its own thread.


Sure, move away, I just liked some of the people's information on this thread.

[xkwzit]

Hi Alison

I was just being lazy and shortening your username, I don't do that in real life, but here I have to type it! BTW do you mind if I call you Al? (you can tell me "no", I won't mind).

And "wonky willy" - PMSL have pics of J Depp in my mind :D

I have been thinking about whether we have this convo here or not and my thought was that you might get more input if we move it and call it Hypospadia (I know that some ppl may steer clear of this particular thread because they have no interest in circumcision or urinary tract infections etc.)

I'll see if I can find out how to do it and then check back, its totally up to you my dear :) .

Cheers

[lukaelmo]

Hi Alison

I was just being lazy and shortening your username, I don't do that in real life, but here I have to type it! BTW do you mind if I call you Al? (you can tell me "no", I won't mind).

You are perfectly welcome to call me what you like :D I put my name back on my signature so that people don't think that I am a boy. Not that there's anything wrong with boys :p

Anyway, you are probably right about the thread, please feel free to move it.

[cosmic]

Maybe if you are going to start a new thread and want input from people you'd be better off to call it 'Wonky Willies'. :D I'm sure that would get more attention than Hypospadia. Most people probably wouldn't even know what that is!

[xkwzit]

Good advice Cosmic, and its done :D

[aardvark]

I'm anti-circumcision, but I think in this case, I'd be inclined to have the procedure done.

One slang term for Hypospadia is "whistlecock", because the urethra opens onto the ventral aspect of the penis, giving it the appearance of a whistle (think of the mouthpiece of a recorder or tin whistle). You'd hate to find your son ended up with that as a nick-name.

From what I remember having been told about it, it can make urination a potentially messy business for a bloke, and school boys can be awfully cruel when things are not quite right, especially in that department.

I do certainly remember that a boy with Hypospadia should not be routinely circumcised, as the foreskin is required for the reparative procedure.

[lukaelmo]

Hey M&M thanks, you were right, not too graphic pictures!

Little dude's hypospadia is not severe. His little opening is off centre, but it is still kind of where it should be. It is a little like God was playing darts with a few drinks under his belt and missed the bullseye.

That being said, it bends when he gets his little tiny erections

Thank you too Aardvark. I guess that what you said about the teasing is my biggest concern. Guys are hung up on the willys anyway, I tend to think that if we fix it up before he knows about it then at least we are avoiding any extra problems.

[lukaelmo]

What is happening in 8 days M&M?

[Sarie]

Charming and helpful comment as always Dilly.

[JohnC]

Little dude's hypospadia is not severe. His little opening is off centre, but it is still kind of where it should be. It is a little like God was playing darts with a few drinks under his belt and missed the bullseye.

That being said, it bends when he gets his little tiny erections

Thank you too Aardvark. I guess that what you said about the teasing is my biggest concern. Guys are hung up on the willys anyway, I tend to think that if we fix it up before he knows about it then at least we are avoiding any extra problems.

Hi Ali,

As you are no doubt aware there is heaps of good quality info on the net about hypospadias, and unlike circ it is not all confused by rhetoric and high emotion. But the condition is sufficiently common (about 1 in 300) for people to be informed.

Anyway, I was just going to say - and very much JMO - if the urethral opening is still within the glans then no infant surgical correction is probably required - the "little dude" (luv that!) will be able to pee normally ie standing up. And cosmesis is clearly not an issue.

The bend - chordee - is of course impossible for me to assess. But unless it is obviously far outside the norm (and remember at least half of all penises have "bends" of one sort or another) - leave the decision to him, later. Part of the reason for that is currently corrective surgery almost inevitably has the consequence of reducing overall penile length - and he may want to make the decision about the trade-off himself. And surgical techniques are improving all the time, so it may be a different story later.

Anyway, if you haven't already, have a good look at the various hypospadias support groups online (run by parents) in addition to the official info, and best of luck :)

John

[Nathans mun]

Hi
How old is you son? Have you seen the surgeon?
Can he wee strongly?

Heres some extra info that might be helpful in your decision:

I have a son with the same condition and have no hesitation in getting it repaired, the peadiatric surgeon I have gave me lots of information on the subject. We are pencilled in for surgery in March around 6-7 months of age.
Luckly these days it is only day surgery so they go in first thing & home that night.

Hypospadia can also affect the kidneys and urinary tract. I am aware someone who has excessive gout problems due to his hypospadia not allowing the kidneys to flush waste & toxins from his body due to poor flow. It can also be genetic.

The bend in his penis might not seem much now but it may become painful later in life (for both him & his sexual partners).

You can also try the Royal childrens hospital site below for more info.
http://www.rch.org.au/kidsinfo/factsheets.cfm?doc_id=9060
I'm not sure if any of this helps you but it is common;)

Karen

[Colie]

Hi Alison,

I have just joined bubhub and was reading your thread from earlier this year. My step-son has just had his hypospadia corrected. He is 9 yrs old and his mum was worried because he was getting recurrent infections from wee getting stuck between the head of the penis and the foreskin. His willy looked like the foreskin curled over the head of the penis and the opening was just on the underside of the head. He complained that when he wee'd it squirted to the left and he had to stand off-centre to the loo. Anyway, the specialist did say that if not corrected it could cause problems with fertility later in life, or issues with pain during sex, and probably continued UTI's and thrush. He had a GA for the op, which only took about one hour, and felt discomfort for about four days after the op, and had the catheter in for a week. Since the op he has had two new infections, but on a recent follow-up consult with the specialist the doc suggested that the urethra may be restricted by scar tissue and so it's uncomfortable to wee and so he may not be emptying his bladder completely which is causing the UTI's. The specialist told him to push his foreskin back when he wees so that no urine is caught between the penis and the foreskin (apparently all uncircumsized men should do this when weeing!). This will also help avoid adhesions following the operation and assist in proper healing. I think having the op. will be worth it in the long term, but there is short term pain and discomfort. I am anti-circumcision, but I'm pro for repairing hypospadia because of the problems my step-son has had over the years with infections and don't believe it's a cosmetic procedure at all. Hope this has helped you out. Good luck if you decide to go ahead with the op.

Colie

[Colie]

Alison - I just noticed that you live in Brisbane. My step-son had his op at the Mater Children's Hospital in South Brisbane. His specialist is Dr Borzi - very nice man. - Colie

[meiko]

Hi Ali,

From what you have written I am going through the same thing with DS aged 3 months and will have no probs getting him fixed. As hard as it will be to put him through surgery now it would be much harder for me to deal with later.

I am in Brisbane too, DS is under the Childrens Hospital. Yell out if you want to chat.

I am sure will do what is right for DS.