Bertini Mio, Childcare Infinity

[Bec]

Hi,

I am interested to know if anyone has the Bertini Mio ( or Trio) or Childcare Infinity Pram. They look like the Bugaboo with the large pump up wheels at the rear of the pram and the smaller wheels at the front. They come with the bassinet for when bubs is small and then a chair for when they are older.
Esprit also make a similiar model but I am not sure of the style name.
If you have one or know someone that has one, I'd like to know what you think of it.

Thanks

[JasmineLouise]

Hello :)
as the name suggests, i work in retail.. so i hope i can help out.
The Esprit model you talk of is the Childcare Infinity brand but is simply a different colour with the esprit logo on it. As for the price i'm not sure if there is a difference because of this, but you may be able to get further information from the 'childcare products' website. Basically the differences between the bugaboo and the infinity is that the bugaboo's handle is reversable and the infinity's seat is reversable, the advantage of this being that the infinity will always have the swivel wheels facing forwards which makes for easy manoverability. Also, when purchasing the infinity you will get the fleecy insert free which would normally be an additional fee with the bugaboo. I haven't really had a detailed look at the bertini model but if you put them together the similarities are almost exact. the only noticeable difference is that the mio has more storage space below, the front wheels are closer together, and the folding mechanism appears to be different. With the infinity, you basically get the fleecy insert free (not with mio), but you do have to purchse the bassinet seperately...
Hope iv'e helped a bit.. goodluck with the research:p

[Bec]

Thanks Truthfulsalesassistant.
It is always hard to get comments on these prams as not a lot of people have them.
The only thing I don't like about the mio or trio is that the rear wheels are quite wide (68cm) but I think that is very similiar to many of the 3 wheelers on the market. Do you know much about the wear and tear of the Miio or Trio?
I have been thinking this morning and I am thinking that I might go for the Bertini Trio ( comes with the bassinet which I can use on the pram and also separately when we visit people). Then when the baby is older I might get a small light weight 4 wheeler which I can use when I go shopping and keep the Trio 3 wheeler for walking and outdoor use.

[JasmineLouise]

Bec..
I know that if you are looking at a pram that holds either a toddler seat or a bassinnet, the back wheels will be generally wider for stability reasons. I honestly couldn't tell you about the general wear and tear of these items as i have personally owned one (hopefully someone else can help you with this:D ), but a pram will usually come with a 12 month warranty depending on the brand. In regards to the bassinet all three models have a carry handle on the hood which sounds like what you might be after.
You can download the images of the products on their respective websites... and i can honestly say i wouldn't be surprised if all three prams were manufacturer by the same company as the products are so alike it's uncanny (e.g: wheels, materials, trim and handle)
Three wheelers seem to be a more popular choice, i would just advise you go to the retailer and have a 'test run' to ensure it fits through doorways and register bays. But as you mentioned, a lightweight stroller will probably come in handy as bub gets older.
Happy too help.. let me know how you go...and best of luck:)

[mum2peanut]

Hi Bec,
Don't know if you're interested but I was out pram shopping today and I was looking at the Childcare Infinity Pram (the Espirit version of it) and when I was talking to the sales assistant about it, she mentioned that in the next few weeks Valco is bringing out one along the same lines. So unless you're in a rush, maybe wait and check this one out. I liked that you could reverse this one (CIP), that was the reason I was looking at the Valco Rebel, which many sales assistants have told me is too heavy for me! Which is one of the reasons she told me to wait. She said they should be in store by the end of the month. She couldn't remember all the the details about it, she said she thought it was light and compact, she'd just seen it at an expo or something.

[Scout]

Thanks for starting this thread Bec (and for those who have replied) - these are the exact two prams that I am looking at. I have small hatchback and both of these prams appear to fit in my boot.

[Bec]

Thanks for that info mum2peanut. Can you tell me where you were told this info?? Babies Galore??? I wasn't planning on getting the pram until the end of this month so I might wait and see if it comes out in time and have a look at it. Thanks a lot for letting me know.

[brooke]

hey bec,
i have the childcare infinity pram in pink for my bubs and i can not speak highly enough of it! I LOVE IT! and recommend it to everyone... bubs loves it and its so light and easy to push it turns really easy and is small enough to fit down isles in the shops! its so easy for me to use and folds down really easy!

[mum2peanut]

Hi Bec,
The Sales Assistant at Baby Zone told me. On the Valco website in the intro it talks a little about the new models coming out . It doesn't show them but tells a little bit about what they are. I'm waiting. I figure I'm in no rush. I guess the only thing will be the cost I'd imagine they'd be expensive because they're new. Who knows??:D

[brandi]

I've also been looking at the bertini mio/trio, and now have started looking at the esprit/childcare infinity models. My only problem is that I have only seen/played with the mio but am thinking to get the trio because the front wheel seems stronger and more shock absorbing for when I have to go onto gravel etc. I know the mio and trio are exactly the same except for the wheels, but is there any advantage of 4 wheels over 3 wheels? And do the infinity models come with a 3 wheel option?

[Bec]

With the Bertini Mio/Trio, I am not sure if there is an advantage of four wheels over 3. I think it is better to have the larger wheels which are on the 3 wheeler rather than two small and two large on the four wheeler. However the 3 wheeler does fold up a little bulkier than the four wheeler. And if length is a concern, the 4 wheeler isn;t as long as the 3 wheeler....... it's a hard decision...
I don't think the infinity models come in a three wheeler.

[brandi]

I think we have pretty much decided on the bertini trio. I walk everyday and will start jogging again, so the trio is probably the best option for me. Its got everything I need and is so light and easy. It'll have to last me for several years and hopefully another baby, so the price doesn't worry me too much. I'll have a smaller more portable stroller for quick trips to the shop when baby is able to sit up comfortably. And anyway, I don't want to look at another pram! You can't go into too much detail because it just drives you insane!

[Graziella Giordano]

:mad: Whatever you do, DON"T BUY the BERTINI MIO. I have a 6 month old baby and only use it 1-2x per week. My baby is only 6 months old and it fell apart last week as I was taking it out of my boot!!! I am not happy about this as when I took it back to "Baby's Galore" they told me that it had to be sent back to Melbourne for repairs and gave me a dirty used pram to loan. Baby's can pick up germs and although it is ok for their immunity how about how easy it is to get glandular fever??? I look after my things and found that the frame scratched quite easily and that the carraige frayed. Also it is quite unsteady. I read in another forum that it fell apart at the lights with the baby still in it from one unsatisfied customer. As for the service at baby's galore - I have heard countless stories about how rude their staff is. As a first time mother I am quite annoyed with this pram as I was hoping it would last for my next child. This pram is not cheap either and for the service I got as well as the manufacture of this product it is not worth the greif. Good luck and I hope I haven't got to you too late with this!!!

PS: It is quite wide as well and I have difficulty in certain shops with getting through the aisles. It also takes up a fair amount of space in my boot and I own a large sedan!!!!

[Bec]

Thanks Graziella. Good to hear others opinions. We have had the Mio on Layby since a while ago but I have been doubting it for a few weeks so we were planning on going to pick it up or change it on Sunday. I'll show my husband your comments.

[Scout]

Hi Bec

I looked carefully at both the Infinity, Mio & Trio but unfortunately I didn't like the Bertini models and struggled to get the Infinity in my car. Have you looked at Quinny's? I thought they were just great - well made, fantastic looking and so easy to get up and down.

Alas, today we purchased a Bugaboo - it fit in the boot the best and the bassinette/seat are one and the same thus it was going to save me a lot of storage space in our apartment. The bassinette on the Bug is also big enough that we will be able to hold off on buying a cot for a while.

I hope you find peace of mind with a pram soon.

Scout

[Burna25]

Hi there I"m probably too late and you've all bought your prams but an interesting thing about the three wheelers most the mums in my mothers group have these, as they're all the trend, but many of them have now said if they had their time over they wouldn't purchase one as they are not stable! Case in point my daughter was tipped out of one by her brother who was trying to give her a kiss at the time, while one of the other mum's nearly lost her bub while going over uneven terrain. just something for you to consider along with everthing else good luck. Personally if I could justify buying a new pram I like the look of the infinity. Cheers

[scorpio]

My dd and i have been looking at the Bertini mio, the Childcare Infinity and Esprit, and the bugaboo cameleon.

The Bertini Mio is being discontinued as there have been many problems with it. The Childcare Infinity seems to be a much better choice however the seat is quite shallow and Im not sure just how well it would handle uneven surfaces with the 2 smaller wheels.

We looked at the above 2 prams and then the bugaboo. The difference in the quality of workmanship is apparent immediately,its a much better made pram BUT, it is much more expensive so I would expect better quality!! But in the end, would the bugaboo handle uneven surfaces any better, I dont think so. I fail to see how any pram with 2 large wheels and 2 smaller wheels would handle uneven surfaces as well as a 4 larger wheels pram, like a Bertini or Emmaljunga 4 wheeler.

Choosing a pram is such a headache!!!