January mums - May Chat

[Lukeandmattsmum]

I thought i would start up the new thread for May. This year is going so fast. Too fast. Matthew will be six months before i know it.

[aries_moon]

wow! a may thread already. It was sometime in the first week of may last year that X was conceived! Crazy! Was just thinking as a few of you have mentioned you would like to see a pic of the mums as well, as we only had a pic of bubs from the meet. Why doesn't everyone post a pic of themselves with their bub? Then we can all put a face to everyone's name. I will start, may not be the best pic of moi as i don't have lots of me and bub, anyway..........

only about a week old here, aww memories
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t226/kathryn_peter/P2240186.jpg

and about a week ago, my big cheeky boy!
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t226/kathryn_peter/P4250084.jpg

[Acacia]

Its so crazy to think that it is May already! I can hardly believe how fast it has all gone by!

Well im sitting here with a pump on my breast....moooooo! Tom is seeing his dad and i am behind with the milk supply. It seems to be dropping off a bit, but that might have to do with my diet change though.

I cant remember who was talkjing about milestones for their bub and being concerned but i totally empathise. When i read about bubs on here doing things that tom isnt doing yet i panic. I was telling my housemates about it and they told me to tell everyone that Tom is reading Steven Hawkins and also solving complex mathimatical equasions!:laughing:

Seriously though every one develops so differently. Tom isnt rolling or holding himself up but he is grabbing things and chuckles and demands attention. Its funny to see his manipulative cry now....i can see that he will be a bit of a handful later on! I had a look in my book about rolling and stuff and it is a pretty wide time frame that they can do it in so you really shouldnt worry.

I hope everyone is good. Im really sorry to hear that your little one is sick Tabby. I hope she feels better soon.

[jacstar31]

cheeki - I have the same re; hair loss. v. annoying cleaning out the shower of it every day..lol!!

geoffrey has been quite unsettled last few days, i think he is getting teeth, he is 5 months old now, gee it has gone fast!

[Tabby]

Morning all!
Thanks to everyone who wished Katie better, shes almost there! Probably about 80% her normal self yay.

My hair is everywhere as I said before forgot to say though that its all over the carpet and what a pain to get up lol, DP allways picking it off the back of my shirts, hope it stops soon its been a month now! Either that ot get preg now so can have those lovely hormones that make it all thick and lustrous again lol

Aries: Great idea but will have to take a new pic, the ones I have of those first few weeks I look as cr@p as I felt as had that dreadful infection.

Cheeki: Hope thier sleeps improve for you soon, must be so hard with two never mind here with one, Since Katie was sick I felt like I was back at week 1 again! :fingerscrossed: you find a solution soon.

Have decided to fix our 4 am waking with popping her in to bed with us, I just cant keep getting up and down 20 times 4-630am. She went till 830 in our bed so might keep doing it till sort out whatever is or she just stops waking 4am.

Got to run, will come back later after shopping.
xxx

[sugar n spice]

Ariesmoon - that is a lovely picture of you and xavier. i think i will have to have a pic of just ash and i as i dont think i have any will have a look though.

hair loss - im loosing heaps. its horrible when im washing my hair i get clumps of it in my hands. luckily i could never go bald i have that much thick hair

[Cordelia]

Yep - Dh is always picking up hair from everywhere - it seems I leave a trail of it behind.

Going crazy with Caitlin's sleep atm and have made a decision to get rid of the dummy - but now she's so overtired that I've given her back her dummy but she's still whingey and has been laying there grizzling for 45 minutes now. SO FRUSTRATING. I knwo if she doesn't sleep this morning I'll regret it when I have to go out later on.

aries - that smile of Xavier's in the photo is gorgeous!!

Ok the grizzling has turned to some form of screaming so I'd better go soothe.. that's what the stupid DUMMY IS SUPPOSED TO DO

[SammyG]

I'm leaving hair everywhere too! Thank goodness for dustbusters! Here's a couple of photos of me & M, he was 5 weeks (haven't taken anymore mum/bub shots since) Photos are from our professional shoot, I just love them!
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/scrappysamg/Bub%20Hub/D27bw.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/scrappysamg/Bub%20Hub/B34bw.jpg

[SammyG]

Thanks Kylie, I watch Today so not sure who you mean.

[sugar n spice]

sam i love that picture

[Ellembee]

you're right cheeki, sammy looks like natalie barr. both you and aries and each of your bubs are gorgeous.

getting v nervous and a bit of separation anxiety abt going out w/o both dh and little dd tonight. i need to get this first time over and done with. am starting to feel sick to the stomach. pathetic huh! imagine what i will be like when i go back to work!

E xx

[Tabby]

lol aww Ellembee! :hugs: Youll be fine hun, where are you off to? Sorry if allready said...

OH MY..guess what??
Tummy time for Katie and she was raising her bum AND pushing off!! Oh please please dont be a early crawler lol
The teeth are bothering her, she woke after 15 mins sleep all grumpy so gave her some gel and sound asleep again and nothing since. Figured as much as she has rosy cheeks as well today.

[Strawberry_Shortcake]

Good Afternoon Ladies,

Aries – Good idea about mum/bub pics. I just gotta find one. Btw nice pic of you and Xavier.

Tabby – If Talon wakes up in the wee hours of the morning ( which is once in a blue moon) I usually put him in my bed, saves me getting up all the time especially when the mornings are starting to get abit cool.

geoffrey has been quite unsettled last few days, i think he is getting teeth, he is 5 months old now, gee it has gone fast!

I think Talon isn't to far from teething either. Oh well time will tell i guess.

i just had to say you look like that newsreader off sunrise cant think of her name yet ??


Yep you sure do look like the sunrise news reader Natalie Barr.

Us- Not much is happening here at the moment. I'm very happy with Talon. He's sleeping well and he eats farex with pureed pear and banana for breakfast and i've just made some pureed potato and pumpkin. Just tried him with it and he loves it :smiliedance:So he'll be starting to have that for dinner and then have a bottle just before bed. Better start cooking some dinner since hubby wants me to make my famous lasagne. I told him i will if he looks after Talon while i make it :D .

cheers
kel

[Hels*Bels]

Wow, we are in May already.
There is also a Due in Jan 2008 thread started! I have popped my head in to send congrats to the girls. Hard to believe that was us not so long ago!!

Me and R watch sunrise every morning and we also think Sam looks a bit like Natalie Barr lol.

Ok, photos of us. Well I was waiting until I had my figure back, then planning to get some professional shots. But in reality this will probably be when R starts school :laughing:
So I've dug out a few which I don't really like but's it's the best I could do!

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Reece/HelenKnees1.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Reece/Helen.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Reece/GregHelen1.jpg

[mim1]

So many cute photos!

Josh has been sleeping more and more at night and feeding more often during the day. Yes, I get the overnight off, but I'm not sleeping well (sore back) and during the day I'm getting hardly anything done cause Josh needs me so often. It's challenging. I have stopped checking into bubhub so often, cause I was using up heaps of my precious spare time without even noticing.

wild at heart ... I think you asked about feet through cot edges. Well, you can get a product called airwrap, which is a mesh that can go around the cot walls, but the baby can breathe through. It's ok for little bubs and safe with regards to SIDS (I think). You can get it at BigW and baby stores.

hair loss ... I was dreading this cause I'd heard about it. I hoped I wouldn't get it, but sure enough, in the last 2 weeks it's started! Josh is losing his hair too! :(

mobiles in cots ... I started a poll and thread on this in the general parenting section and the overall consensus was that one was ok, but the less stimulating the better. I put a noah's ark soft toy mobile in josh's cot. It has a pull down cord that makes it play music and flash lights, but I just don't pull the cord anymore. I often find Josh looking at it when he goes in the cot.

I can't believe it's been 12 months since we all got pregnant ... it's still a couple of weeks til the 1st anniversary of when I found out I was pregnant ...

[Cat13]

Mim, I'm trying not to check in on bubhub so often as well. An hour on bubhub flies by but so much else I could achieve in the same time. But it is such a fun way to procrastinate about the more mundane things one should be doing! :o

And I do love checking in on what everyone else & their bubs are up to! :yes:

[Jenko]

I love all the pics. I hardly have any of Koby and I. I'm usually the one taking the photos. I will get one and post it.

Koby has been great. Dribbling great guns, feeding a bit less but still snacks when ever he wants. Some days I have a bit of a routine and others we're all over the shop :laughing:

The one routine at night is he has a long 40+ minute feed. I love all the cuddles and he just loves hanging out on the boob. It seems to relax him and although we have only had a few sleep throughs, he is in bed between 7-7.30pm every night so I'm happy with that. Night feed only takes 15-20mins. I just wish I could fall back asleep as fast as K does. Sometimes I'm still lying there wide awake 2 hours later. :mad:

He is starting to get much more interested in the world around him and isn't as happy to just hang out in his rocker or play mat anymore. He wants to be carried around the house with me or just sit with me on the lounge. This is when it starts getting harder to do things like have a shower, clean the house and get dinner.

*Must get a little more organised and use his sleep time to get chores done.* :rolleyes:

I also haven't been checking in as much, find it hard to keep up, this thread moves so fast!

We are getting ready to move in a few weeks. We are in a 2 bedroom unit here with 28 stairs to climb, it gets harder every time I come back from the shops with a few shopping bags. Ki is getting bigger and Jenna wants to hold my hand....so we are moving into a 3 bedroom house YAY! :smiliedance: I can't wait!!

[sugar n spice]

all these pictures are great. Hels love the family pic

[Charis]

Golly and Monday was only yesterday :wave: Aries Moon thank you so for hosting the meet yesterday, it was v lovely to see one and all and all the bubbies growing so. They will all be playing together like MouseBrowns gorgeous DD and yr nephew Aries!

I could could suggest I'll host the next one, first will make sure the aircon units donated and installed today by my lovely contractor are really reverse cycle..so not as to freeze anyone elses bubs.:cool: But lots of space and a cat to chase.

GREAT to hear Katie is on the mend. Huge relief to you Tabby and all of us!

Posting the other barcode..it did get to the meet, but also came home again! doh.Should have stuck it to Freddies lovely sheet set.

Hair - ditto to all!! Clumps of it almost.

GORGEOUS shots Aries, Sammy G, Hels!!!! Oh darn it is such a precious time and the Mother-Baby shots are pretty scarce here too, like Jenko, hardly anyone takes them of me! I take them of H all the time. Will get some tomorrow!!

Would love some shots with his Daddy to, but he's being more silly than silly recently.

Must say only way I can and still do keep the office running is my Mum. Had a 3hr meeting + 40min drive there and back, this arvo and all three of us went. H and his Nana went walking looking at cows! (Its a big farmhouse/homestead renovation) But such a huge chunk of time and such a huge chunk of H's life..I'm seriously considering resigning from it, esp when monthly meetings (for the next yr!) were touted today.

If anyones still reading, got home well into darkness, H still asleep. Rushed around heating food/heating space/feeding cat/filling bath..(you all know the gist, all in about a minute) when a fuse went and half the powerpoints shorted.. hmm, completely threw my normal night routine, then H woke up screamingly hungry!! His Dad txted to say 'I can come over' about 15mins before he was about to go to bed. (and he always goes to bed now at the same time!) I said 'not great time now' to which he replied with a 'fine, do it all yourself' message. I know he feels not included, but I think coming over just at sleeping time is inconsiderate for H and I!????Especially when he's been riding his bike for the last hour. YIKES what a night. Luckily H knew no different to normal and was all tucked up warm, cosy. Where I'm heading now. Sorry for the leennngth!!
:wave:

Ellembee how was your night? We're all thinking of you!! :-)

[Ellembee]

hi all, well i survived my night out and so did G and DH. G was asleep the whole time! tabby - it was just a dinner with some work people and clients to celebrate the end of a project. i had my phone next to me all night and dh only texted to update me on dancing with the stars progress - lol.

hair loss - touch wood doesn't happen to me as i have fine hair as it is!

re wasting precious time on bh - i only log on when i am feeding or at night after G is in bed and too pooped to do any chores.

speaking of chores - when this feed finishes, will start the mountain of ironing. need to also plan a menu for dinner party fri night (dh's boss & wife). any ideas for an easy starter i can preprepare during the day? am thinking of baked salmon for main.

have a good day all.

[freddie]

here's a pic of me and my little man at Easter. Sorry, was going to write a post but he's just woken up! more later :wave:

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l77/kjrip/Denmark.jpg

[Acacia]

Tom just propped himself up on his elbows!!:wizard:

Sorry but it is so exciting for me! I have been waiting for ages for a sign that he was going to do it! I dont give him a lot of tummy time because he just hates it and face plants, but this morning i thought i would give it a go and he was propped up! Hooray!

Oh all the pictures are just gorgeous! I have one of me and Tom on here somewhere but its going to take me a while to figure out how to get it all organised!

Hey Tabby, I sleep with Tom all the time and it is so much easier. I tried him in his cot for about 2 weeks when he was first born, but one night i found a huntsmen in it and i just freaked out and decided that he was staying with me! Although i guess i dont have the worry that other people do. I only have to fit me and Tom in the bed and i'm not getting it on with anyone so all i have to worry about is when Tom tries to gnaw at my boobs and i push myself over until I almost fall out of bed!

At the moment im finding expressing quite draining...its crazy i didnt realise how tired it would make me....im trying to get ahead for when Tom stays at his dads, but its really wearing me out.

Is anyone else still suffering from baby brain? I had a bath with my glasses on the other night then tried to wash my face with them on too! I have locked my self out about 10 times in the last 2 weeks...its becoming a bit of a joke with my housemates! Its so irritating!

Hope your all good. I will try and remeber personals in my next post...toms just woken up!

[LadyLou]

I was just looking for photos of me and bub - boy are they rare! Going to try and take one today (myself - thats a bit sad I know but DH is at work and DS at preschool).

Hair loss - by all rights I should be bald..... and yet it just keeps falling out, where does it all come from?? I remember some of DS's first words being "mummy's hair", he would say this as pulling a long blond strand out of his toys/toes/fingers/teeth.... My advice, get a Dyson with a turbo head - it's great for collecting hair (from the floor that is)!

Feeding/sleeping - well for a change I've been watching the clock - only cause I am now being woken in the wee hours of the morning for a feed - it's generally a "what time is this?" look. It seems we are feeding every four hours like a newborn and no longer sleeping through.... :no: I am putting it down to learning how to hold things with her hands. I am in denial about it being hunger (although.....). My mum keeps saying "give her some farex, she's hungry - that'll fix her!". I really wanted to just BF for the full 6 months and worry about real food later.... So question: Has anyone else who is fully BF started their bub on solids before the 6 month mark? How did it go? I really wanted to hold off, it's only another 8 weeks. Guess I'll have tp put up with the night feeds.

First mother's day coming up for the new time mums - how exciting! DH missed the importance of my first mothers day - I got nothing! This year he's outdone himself and bought me a beautiful gold bangle (I've wanted one forever), he was early too, he was so excited and proud about it that I got it early - I haven't taken it off since!

gotta go - full nappy to deal with - ahhhhh

[Hels*Bels]

We need more photos girls! great to see those who have posted so far.

Hair loss - :no: not happening here, if anything my hair (and skin) is more oily since having bubs. But that's just hormones and it will settle down when I have been on the pill for a while.

We have our 2nd Mother's group meet today. R is due for a feed about now (he is asleep so I am stretching him out). The group ends at 4pm which will be his next feed so I am going to try giving him 220mls now in the hope that we can get home first and feed at 4.30pm. It's always trial and error in this house every day :laughing:

He is sleeping well through the night too. I think he will end up being like his parents and love his bed :thumbsup:

[sugar n spice]

yeah i dont have many pic of me and just bub so i might get dh to take one this wkend for me.

ashton has been having custard and loves it. funny he sticks his tounge out when i go to put it in his mouth. he doesnt like farex. im just buying the odd can as i dont have much time to make his own food.

[cate]

Hi all welcome to May!!!

Hair loss is crazy here...I am sick of it being everywhere so I'm off to have the big chop next week!!! Can't wait!! I booked in to a really fancy hairdresser with the massage seats, hand massage, treatments etc.. etc..etc..etc... woohoo!!!!!

I just sold my two breast pumps on ebay and got $150 total....got to be happy with that!

Nothing much else here except trying to keep Audrey on her left side to fix the crooked head!!

[Flicka]

Yes to the hair loss here. I feel like I am constantly pulling it out of Kelsey's little fists. And poor DS keeps coming over to tell me he has one in his mouth or on his face - yuck. If only it fell out on my legs or my underarms - wouldn't have to shave/wax.........

I seriously think Kelsey is teething. She was a bit grizzly yesterday and today and has been gnawing on everything. She even chews on my hands, shoulder and clothes if she can. Gave her a teething ring but she hasn't quite mastered holding on to it yet.

Solids - I agree with waiting until 6 months however started solids with DS when he was about 5 and a half months and found it good (just rice cereal in the morning). Although the experts say wait until 6 months, I think you still have to be guided by baby. I mean, I would hate to be feeling hungry and I imagine they do too. Kelsey is watching us eat and drink all of the time so I guess it won't be long for her. I just hate all the fuss with moving onto solids. It is a whole other part of your day spent making food and carefully cleaning/boiling/sterilising everything. Boobs are so easy and convenient. Also, to let some of you first time mums know - I was a bit of an emotional mess when DS started solids because I felt like a big part of b/feeding was over and I suppose thought 'mummy' wasn't as important or needed. Rest assured that boobs will still be the main thing on you bubs mind for ages to come even tho you start solids. But don't feel bad for shedding a tear - I know I will!!

[tired*mummy]

Hi everyone,
Havent been on for a while and have heaps to catch up on. Been really busy today cleaning and organisind things... i have a rent inspection tomorrow. They could have given me more notice but they seem to think 2 days is enough. Oh well spose it will make me clean everything even when i'm too tired to be bothered. lol.

Sierra has been really good. Still sleeping well at night. Anywhere from 6-11 hrs straight. She is due for her second lot of needles next week but my dr is going away on friday for 6 weeks so i'm taking her on friday... only 3 days early. She is growing really fast too i've noticed. Still in size 000 but seems to fit all Size000 now not like a few weeks ago when she didnt fit all of them. Shes talking heaps too which is really cute. I had forgotten how cute it was. She likes making funny noises at DD1 and squeals and laughs when DD1 plays with her. Very cute.

DD1 & 2 have been driving me up the wall recently. Totally ingoring everything i say and dont even seem like they hear me. They dont do as they are told and just do whatever they like even when i say no they cant do somehting or ask them to do something. I've tried everything to get them to listen but nothing seems to be working. Tried taking things away from them, tried the naughty corner, tried talking to them about things but nope nothing working so far. I'm about to tear my hair out. Also i've been toilet training DD2. Shes fine with wees but refuses to do poos in the toilet so i'm forever cleaning her up. Its horrible. Cant stand it. I know a lot of kids have this problem and they just grow out of it but i dont know how much more of it i can take. Its so gross. Any tips from anyone on how to get her to do poos on the toilet? I'll try anything.
About hair loss... yep happening here too. Heaps and heaps of it. Seem to get a handful of it when i wash my hair or do anything with it.
Solids... Havent really thought about when to start Sierra. Might just wait until i think shes ready. Usually you get the signs like they pay more attention to your food and try to grab it etc, so might just wait until then.

Well enough:ecomcity: form me... have to do more cleaning. Take care all
:wave:

[Cat13]

Flicka, must admit that had been one of my reasons for not being in any rush to start solids. From conception until now it has been my body 100% sustaining him which feels sorta nice and am a bit sad to think only a couple of short months until I'll be whizzing up food for him in the kitchen.

Yes to hair loss here too. But not sure if it's actually any more than pre-pregnancy or I just notice it more now after having the 9 months of hardly any hair loss. Despite DH's comments, no chance I'll be going bald as I have an abundant supply!

A little while ago some of you mentioned that you were doing Zoints profiles and I had NO idea what you were all on about :confused: but have done my homework and done some work on my own profile now. I've even created a photo album page so you can see what my little family looks like (if u rinterested that is!).

The little man calls........

[jacstar31]

2cutekidz - I can sooooo relate to what you are saying about feeding/sleeping....I could have written what you said word for word!!! anyway, yesterday we really gave Geoffrey his first good taste of cereal, he liked it, has been quite interested in what we are eating and thought it was a good time to start, he is 5 mths old now. I am still b'f and was hoping to do it till 6 mths, I will be going back to work full time when he is 8 mths old so will have to be weaned by then. and G is still waking up for night feeds driving me crazy!! also food y'day made absolutely no diff to him sleeping thru, not that he had heaps....

Flicka - thanks for saying that about b'f. it has articulated something for me that I couldn't quite put into words!!

[LadyLou]

Heres our pics - one I did it today and the other is with both DS and DD when on holiday - I cut out DH as he wouldn't approve of his face being on the internet ha ha. Bit blurry!

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t144/LiEmPiccies/DSC036001.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t144/LiEmPiccies/DSC03977.jpg

[Hels*Bels]

I'm feeling kinda strange right now. I am very clucky and a friend of mine is due to have her bub in 1 month and I can't wait to go and see her afterwards and hold a newborn again.
I have also been feeling quite queezy, tired and dry retching a bit. I am craving cheese and savoury alot and just now I found myself looking at the belly pics in the due in May thread (all due to pop soon).

Well... if I was having sex I would be very worried :laughing:

Must be hormones? I have no idea why I am feeling like I am pregnant again and so clucky lol.

BTW, it's 2 days until the 12 month anniversary of R being conceived.

[Charis]

Flicka thanks for writing that about our connection to them, via feeding. It is amazing that we are helping grow them. A few months to cherish though.

GOLLY Cat13 I'm 'back' with you with the screaming to sleep, if its still happening?? Do dummies get too small? H has rejected his all day. First time ever. Aries got a gist of it through physio class this morning. H screamed the place down, poor bubby.. Will attempt to show him his thumb. Hes now asleep off the breast again, like 2 months ago.hmm

OH and a should have known better story..the silly lack of power in the kitchen had me eating a can, a big can of creamed corn..and a bread roll 4 tea.. normally have proper food, but oven/microwave kettle all off...ANYWAY of course we all would expect a big can of creamed corn to have an effect on a b-fed bubby. OH YES. An explosion of all time breaking on through to both sides of his baby bjorn!!! oh and just after being admired in hardware shop :laughing: 'oh what a beautiful baby...' oh yes, beautiful baby covered in the end head to toe almost in..well..creamed corn. Sorry if its on the menu for anyone tonight!!:)

2cutekidz= cutemummy!! v sweet photos. Same hat as Tabbys Katie?? Gorgeous shot of Freddie + Hamish too, tis a beautiful shot of Hamish really feeling/sensing the wonderful Karri trees around !!

Hels!! You might be!!???

Just had terrible call, wife of chap I used to share the office with had their bub today. No news, but only 23weeks. Oh my goodness. So extremely sad, and a reminder of how blessed we all are and how precious life is. I am hoping praying that the wonders of medical science are bolstering their bubs life and tiny organs, as will be all who know them, or read this.. Just a reminder to hug our little precious ones so so close. xxx

[wild at heart]

What the?
I just think back to two months ago when we were wondering whether things would get easier. They did and then Alexander has decided that he doesn't like to sleep and really likes to scream and feed lots during the night! CHN said that it's his way of getting more to eat but when he is barely making 2.5 hours between feeds how much food does he really need. It's the "not again feeling" every time he wakes during the night. And if I hear DH say.. "he's hungry" again, I think I might scream.

The paradox of it all is that when he not being put to sleep or in his cot he is a very happy charming baby who loves to charm the pants of anyone in any shop of office..

Despite it all I love him so and wish he would stay my little babe for a bit longer..

[Cordelia]

wild at heart - sounds exactly like Caitlin.. just when things were getting cruisy... she's had like 9 feeds today.. and cried during every one and she hasn't slept for the last couple of nights - it's driving me mad. Please return to Planet normal!

Hels - i'm convinced i've been pregnant as well - I've been smelling absolutely everything and feeling nauseous. And even though AF returned 4 weeks after birth I havent seen it in 7 weeks - I've even done 2 pregnancy tests this week! - Fortunately both negative but there was a part of me that thought it might be nice to have 2 children so close in age.... *sigh*

We had a CHN class yesterday on solids - the nurse had no idea what she was talking about. Apparently milk arrowroot biscuits are as good as rusks (what the..) Hopefully Caitlin will last a while longer with just BF as I will feel really sad when she grows up into a big girl eating off a spoon!

[Tabby]

Sadly I lost my Nanna on Monday , We wernt very close but am amazed how much has affected me..

Charis: Am having the same problem with Katie re: dummy, am testing your theory and have just given her a bigger one, she continually spits the other out like it slips out at times, will let you know how it goes, not sure though as this one is the rounder type, other was the nuk flatish ones. Have just popped in her mouth while stirring and shes taken it where as before she didnt like it..
:fingerscrossed: For your friends little one and hope all is well xxxx

Cordelia, wild at heart, Same problem here, Katie has been waking during the night for some time now, started with 4am wakes but then got worse. Last night was from 230am onwards..330am we ended up in the lounge room together and popped her pram each time I settled her. Think I got spoiled when sleeping through at 6-7 weeks!

Will catch up more tomorrow, am way tired and a early one for me
sleep well all!

[Strawberry_Shortcake]

Hi Ladies

Cheeki – I make my own food and freeze it. If I do run out I usually have a couple of tins in the cupboard.. You said Zaine doesn’t like just farex. Have you tried adding some pureed apple or pear? Talon hated farex on its own aswell.

Hels – I’ve been pretty clucky aswell. When I was pregnant with Talon I was convinced he would be the only child I would have. Now that’s not the case lol. I want to be pregnant again. I’ve got a very supported hubby and he’s ready to go again when I’m ready. I would love to have my kids very close aswell.

Cordelia – I’ve heard arrowroots are just as good as rusk. My mum gave us arrowroots when we were young.

Tabby – I’m so sorry to hear about your nanna. My thoughts are with you :hugs: :hugs: .

Us – Talon had his needles yesterday. He slept almost all day and night. He wasn’t cranky which is good, just wanted cuddles and kisses. He did wake up with abit of a temperature, so I will keep an eye on that today.

I hope you lovely ladies have a great Thursday

Cheers
Kel

[Cat13]

Charis (and a few other mums it seems!), sorry to hear the screaming to sleep is back. Not having that problem with C anymore but only because he is walked or rocked to sleep in the pram for his 2 or 3 day sleeps and fed to sleep for his night sleep. Have had the odd unsettled night where he seems especially troubled by wind but can't work out the cause.

He has discovered his thumb and can sometimes self-settle back to sleep if he hasn't fully awaken. Hmmm, he's supposed to be asleep but I'm sure I can hear some thumb slurping going on right now!.......yep cheeky boy is laying quietly sucking his fingers. Not letting him know I know he's awake just in case he drifts off again....

I'm very concerned about when he outgrows the pram bassinet but happy it is working for us for now. It is taking him less and less time for him to fall asleep in the pram and my plan is to start to stop pushing the pram as soon as he starts drifting off and then a bit down the track as soon as he is calm and yawny but still awake until he gets to the stage where he can fall asleep in the pram without me pushing it. And then in my little fantasy land it will hopefully be a smooth transition from pram to cot! And once he can fall asleep in the cot I may be able to stop feeding to sleep. Oh I love my little fantasy land where my little plan will work perfectly!

Hope everyone has a great day.

PS - no self settling but that's ok he did sleep for over an hour and he's not screaming, just waiting patiently for me to get him up. He really is a good boy :angel: .

[Tabby]

Strawberry: :hugs: for Talon, hope hes feeling fine from jabs.

I think Katie is finally over hers, its a week tomorrow since! Sure hope that isn't the way every time. She slept better last night, just stirred a few times but awake as usual 4am so into bed with us till 730.

Charis: Have been giving Katie a bigger dummy as said since last night, shes not popping it out as much! So looks like you were right in your thinking, well right for us, thanks for that out loud thought!

There were some other things I was going to respond to here last night but have forgotten...
maybe after my coffee lol.

Hope everyone had a relatively good night.

[freddie]

morning all.
sorry to hear about your nan Tabby, hopefully she went peacefully. Also sorry to hear about your ex colleagues bub Charis - it really make us appreciate what we have.
Cat I did exactly the same thing with pushing the bassinette on the pram but then I found the transition to cot was no problem and I wish I'd done it earlier as Hamish goes to sleep much more easily in the cot - more space for him to stretch out I think. Now I put him down and tuck him in with the curtains open/ lights on, give him a kiss and then make the room dark and he usually settles himself! I made sure I got a cot with wheels though so it can be rocked a bit if necessary.
We've also hit the four month re-awakening. sigh.... Hamish is waking up twice a night again - usually around 12 and 3.30 and then up at 6.30 It seems this is perfectly normal so I'll just have to live with it I guess. Those 8 hour sleeps were wonderful while they lasted....:sleeping: . BTW thanks for lending me Baby Love Charis, its great, it seems like lots of very practical advice based on real experience rather than the medical opinion of the day.
Well today is the day we're babysitting Hamish's two year old nephew :eek: . Its only for a couple of hours so am looking forward to it actually.
Have a great day everyone.
kx

[Tabby]

Oh ok bigger dummy isnt wanted this mornings nap, shes gagging on it , what the... was fine with it last night lol
Thanks freddie, Yes she went peacefully, also had a long life of 96 yrs!

[sugar n spice]

hels - im clucky as well and i have three kids. im dying to have a little girl. i must be nuts wanting to try again when three boys are exhausting but atm dh doesnt want anymore so wont be trying for at least a few yrs.

ashton sleeps well, he's asleep right now so im just putting in time, well should be cleaning and then when he wakes i will feed him and head to the shops. Need to clean up as my nan and grandad are coming down on sunday for a wk so i will have visitors. Might go straighten my hair its sticking up all over the place:banghead:

[victoria75]

Tabby: So sorry to hear about your Nan. I am glad she went peacefully and WOW she certainly had a long time here.

Charis: Keep us up to date with your collegues bub. :fingerscrossed: for them.

:hugs: for Talon. hope he is still doing well after needles.

Us: we are still up at night once or twice. She is still not rolling or anything.

I trued to put a photo of us on here but I have no idea how to do it so you will all just have to keep using your imaginations. Its been great to put faces to some names. I wish we could all just do a big catch up one day in the middle of Aus somewhere. Ahh the little misss is calling, more later.

[Pices_79]

Tabby - so sorry to hear about your nanna :hugs:

Sooooo many gorgeous bubs photos - how lucky are we!! Just sooo beautiful!!!

LOVE hearing about your bubs progess and how the mums are going.....

S is going along nicely. This week she has been in bed at around 7pm and sleeping through until 7-8am...must be the cooler weather!!!!!! She is now 62cm and 5.61kg. I cannot believe she will be 4 months next week. We are off to get her jabs next Friday:gloomy: Yuck!!!! We are also still in 000s. I dont think we will be moving into 00s for a while - maybe July???

Must go - she has just woken up :(

[LadyLou]

jacstar31 - thanks for that, glad you mentioned that the food didn't work with sleeping through, I must admit I was slighty tempted to do the same (regardless of what I told my mother) to see if it'd work. It looks like it's a 4 month thing and all (most) of the bubbas are night waking for feeds again, mabye that why they used to start solids at 4 months in "the olden days"??

tabby - sorry to hear about your nanna :hugs:

Hels - it's funny you talking about being pg, I was just thinking to myself this morning that this time last year we were all so fixated with TTC, I then realised that if I wanted to conceive todays the day No way!!! - might make DH sleep in another room tonight just to make sure nothing happens :laughing:. Mother's Day last year was the day I found out I was pg, seems my cycle is exactly back where it was last year.

Charis - :fingerscrossed: for your friends bubba, not sure about E's hat? Tabby ours was from Pumpkin Patch....

Victoria75 - try creating an account on www.photobucket.com (http://www.photobucket.com) then upload you pictures to that and place the link on your post (copy and paste the url), it's free. Photobucket seems to be the easiest one I've used so far.

Cat13 - your fantasy land sounds great, can I come too? :wizard:

Strawberry - hope T's needles went well, guess I have to think about E having her next lot. If she had her 8wk ones at 9wks then does she need to wait till 17wks for the next round - do you need 8wks between the two lots??

Flicka - I too was so in awe that this little person exists due to me and me alone, we grew them now we sustain them. I don't want to give up BF or share it with real food just yet either!

Us - Well took DS swimming today. V V tired! Bub up twice through the night (seems the usual now), but I woke at 5.30am when DH went to work then kept having nightmares from then on till about 6.30am when bub woke again for a feed! They were weird nightmares about a trained bear riding a unicycle trying tot get in the house to kill us, very noisey, I was worried about the kids.... strange!! So now I am tired and v grumpy with DS - he's not being naughty just wanting my attention and I'm not in the mood for 100 questions. And it seems bubs is awake again too........... grrr! Give me sleep!! It seems I don't cope well without sleep. Dh is at work again tommorrow then I am working sat/sun, with a friend coming sat night to help me with my job apps - will there ever be time for sleep???

Enough blab..

Happy Thursday all!

[2s'nuff]

Just a quick one as I'm at work.

Lots of hair falling out at the moment. Luckily I've only got short hair.

Tired...Have you tried rewards for doing poo on the toilet? Does s/he (sorry can't remember) recognise when a poo is coming? Maybe even start rewards if you get forwarning of a poo, then move on to only when it happens onthe toilet etc.
Charis...LOL at the creamed corn. Although I didn't have any public moments with TJ exploding, I know what it was like before we went on the LF formula.
Cordellia...Milk arrowroots (sp?) are the same as rusks and a lot cheeper. Something to take into consideration when bub decides to throw them around throughout the day.

TJ seems to be over the short wake periods again, last night she slept for 8.5 hours and was 7 hours the night before:smiliedance: . :hugs: to those who have just entered the "wake zone" again.

No photos yet, I'm always the one with the camera, will try and rememebr to get DH to take one.

have a great day!

Lisa

[Tabby]

Thanks for the :hugs:. Mum n Dad have just called in, on the way to the funeral, I cant go as no-one to watch over Katie as all will be there. :( and DP cant take time off yet, we need the $ so bad! Now hes back work everyone we owe wants their money NOW!
Probably could have asked Mil but she doesn't know Katie's routine at all, so don't really feel comfortable leaving her so long with her just yet. Actually she doesnt know K enough fullstop!, One visit for a few hrs every 2 weeks wont get her to either
Am sure Nanna would understand.

Pisces, Katies still 000's as well, have had some 00 on her but too big still and usually have to roll up legs and arms lol
We seriously need more clothes for her, just taking a while get all the bills out of the way first. We are applying for a credit card tonight to help us get through, a clothes shop for her is first on agenda should we get it.

:hugs: for all those approaching needles again.

Preg symptoms, goodness yes, as we had a bd before depo I was so sure I was preg! Still get things that tell me might be, very weird.

Clucky? Well we all know allready that i was clucky again at about 2 n half months lol. To be honest I cant wait! I absolutely LOVE being pregnant, cept the last few weeks that most do anyhow. :fingerscrossed: no GD or SPD this time round too, make it easier for me with Katie.

[Tabby]

lol 2cute, what a weird dream! katies hat was with a matching outfit, think bigW or kmart. Tag says "hundreds and thousands".

[Ellembee]

Tabby sorry to hear abt your nanna.

can i join the unsettled jan bubs club? G was an absolute nightmare last night. and has been today. some kind og growth spurt, mental devlopment??? up every 2 hrs.

am exhausted.

[Flicka]

:hugs: for those of you with unsettled bubs.

And big :hugs: for Tabby after losing Nanna. So hard but didn't she live a long life?

Things good here. Kids are behaving and DH is home for a few days off which is nice - I get to share the disciplining with him (and the toilet training of DS). he even looked after kelsey this afternoon while I had a nap.

Hope you exhausted mums get a good nights sleep tonight - I'll be thinking of you when Kelsey gets up for a feed tonight knowing that somewhere out there some of you are awake feeding too!!

[Tabby]

Thanks Ellembee, Flicka
yep Flicka am sure if most of us get to that we'd be happy?

Got to be growth spurts, so many of us experiencing the same and all close to same age.
We here might be on our way to better again though, she slept fairly well last night - the 4 am as usual, but only 2 trips to settle with dummy on stirring which is ok. Katies also sleeping the biggest sleeps today, and usually they coincide with better nights so :fingerscrossed:
This last sleep shes been asleep since 11 am feed! she woke for another feed at 2 but promptly went right back to sleep..what the? lol

[Tabby]

shes still asleep!!!
Thats all up about 5 hrs! only broken by 15 mins to have her bottle earlier.

[Hels*Bels]

Sorry to those who's bubs are now unsettled at night. It sounds like a growth spurt? I hope R doesn't start doing that, he has only just begun to sleep through.

Tabby - Sorry to hear about your nanna, I'm sure she would understand your circumstances re the funeral. :hugs:
Have a look at eBay for some clothes? Can get some great cheap bargains. I hate spending alot on R's clothes when he might only wear them a couple of times.

Charis - LOL at the cream corn story. Any news on your friend's bub? 23 weeks is just that touch too early so I hope the complications (if any) are minimal.
I know that the Avent dummies have a 0-3 mths one and then a 3-6 mths, so maybe it is time to change yours?

R now weighs approx 6.5kgs and has started wearing some 00 clothes. My 'lil man is growing up :crying:

DH nudged me at 5.30am as R was stirring and needed his dummy. Why the hell didn't he leave me to sleep and get up himself? Blardy men :banghead:

Went on a BH meet today in the city, it was good fun despite the weather being unsettled. There should be some photos popping up on here soon. Took a long time to get home though, was stuck in peak hour traffic for an hour and a half :thumbsdown:

I'm going to the shops tomorrow arvo as a couple of the girls (today) have a play thing that attaches to the pram, carseat or bouncer. Target sells them so I'll have a look.

Early night for me tonight I hope.

[jacstar31]

i decided today to just feed G whenever he wanted rather than watching the clock so much which I have been doing, also perhaps why he is not sleeping thru the night, as previous to this 'waking up again times' at night, I was cluster feeding in afternoon/evening....so will see how he goes with sleep tonight!!

hels - I agree about men sometimes!! sorry about the meet today - i wasn't able to come (actually forgot about it and didn't reply to you- sorry!) hope that you had fun!!

[Lukeandmattsmum]

Well what a day. I really should be in bed but i need my bub hub fix:p DS1 came and joined me in bed around 6am this morning and fell back asleep till about 7am (doesn't usually happen). He then sat up and vomitted all over my bed, himself and me. Ok i am awake now. So we get up bath and dress, thank god Matt has decided to stay asleep this morning, even though he was up early in the night. DF has had a sore throat all week so i thought this might be what DS1 had so i overed him yoghurt, one spoonful nup screamed and didn't want it. So we put Thomas the Tank on and he sat on his couch to watch. I went and stripped the bed and started to clean up when he starts to cry again I go and check on him and he has vomitted everywhere again. Another change of clothes and he is back watching Thomas. To cut a long story short he was sick a few more times then just miraculously (sp?) recoverd and ate a vegemite sandwich for lunch and some jatz biccies.

Then Matt decided to be unsettled before i go to work. Screaming like he had a big pain. Ended up just putting in his cot and he fell asleep. Then woke not long after I left.

Hopefully tomorrow is a better day. I hate seeing my kids in pain and unwell.

Anyway sorry about the long post all about me. Haven't had much time to catch up with all the other posts.

[sugar n spice]

lukeandmattsmum - sorry to hear you had such a hard day but im glad hes feeling better. get some rest:hugs:. all good here so not much to say, just popped in for an update:wave:

[bossoflatch]

i have been offline for a few weeks - i have been able to catch up at mums but haven't really posted in here for a while...

finally got a diagnosis on bubs with her reflux..it appears that she has a cow milk protein allergy..so everytime i was eating diary she would be screaming for days... i ate yoghurt one night and she was up vomiting all night ( she has never been a chucky baby - she has been a screaming baby with the acid rise - so for her to vomit all night was something really wrong)... she was on meds for it three times a day and now i have been off dairy for about 3 weeks and she has been a new baby..she didn't even need any medication the last few days..:smiliedance:

i feel like i have a new baby..she is coming off the breast smiling and talking to me...where as before she would just scream the house down..we couldn't get her to sleep during the day and at night she was so exhausted she would just flake...now she sleeps really well... sometimes she wakes for a feed about midnight but those days i don't think my water intake was enough:o

tabby - i have a spare 00 sleeping bag (brand new target baby club i think- if you would like it - i have too many ) if you want it pm me your address and i will send it over :yes:

we won't be starting solids until about 6 months - but we have to be introduce things abit differently with her intolerances/ allergies.... so there will be no custards or yoghurts for my bubs for a veeeery long time... we don't know yet whether she will be on soy... as i am still breastfeeding and i am staying clear of anything with the cow milk protien as i am soooo over having a screaming baby..i think i was starting to take it personally....:laughing: i was starting to think that i was a bad mummy i know it sounds stupid but when you constantly have a baby screaming at you - you start to wonder what you are doing wrong...

now i have fallen in love with my little girl again - all the smiles... and the little giggles she has just learnt to do ...and she opens her mouth for a kiss when you hold her in front of our face... eewww so cute...

has anyone had reactions to the rotavirus immunisations??? her peadiatrician recommended it - but just curious to know whether any bubs reacted - supposedly they don't have any reactions.???

nite all!!!

[Tabby]

bossoflatch: Glad you found out whats wrong, wonderful that you have your lovely smiling baby back!
lol @ the kisses, Katie has started that too, mmm dribble kisses YUM!

have pmed you :thumbsup:

Hels: you have me addicted to my zoints profile lol
Spent most the time K asleep trying to work it out :laughing:

[Strawberry_Shortcake]

Hi Ladies,

No personals this time round. Just quickly reading everything so i'm up to date.

Talon back to his normal self today. He just had abit of a temp yesterday. When i was at the drs, she weighed him. T's 7.6kgs, 69 cm long and head circ 44cm. I'm pretty pleased with that. T is in 00 and 0 now.

Any of the brissy ladies know where the next meet up in for us Jan mums. If so could you please pm me with the details.

[Tabby]

Cheeki: Hope you got a better sleep. I dont handle little sleep very well either, I can be a real b!tch when I lack it lol Poor dp.

Strawberry: Good to hear Talon wasnt affected too much needles.

We were up at 4am! She woke as usual 4am on the dot but this time wouldnt settle even when took to my bed, so gave in and gave her a bottle and we nodded off together at 5am - 730am.

[Hels*Bels]

Cheeki - Hope you get some more sleep soon. There is nothing worse than feeling so tired all the time.

Tabby - Great profile page :thumbsup:

Well my little man had a bit of an unsettled night. Woke a few times and eventually had a feed at 5.30am, it hasn't been that eary for ages. Thankfully he went back to sleep after. It was his first night in a sleeping bag rather than being wrapped. Once he is used to it we will make the transition to the cot. For some reason I am not looking forward to that.

We are going shopping later today, I can feel a spending spree coming on lol.

There are some photos of the meet yesterday, here is the link if anyone want to have a look.
(The photos are on page 2)

http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=79909

[tired*mummy]

Hi everyone

Just a quick as i have my SIL's coming over with their babies.

Mouse... I have tried rewards with DD2. She doesnt seem to respond to anything. When i ask her about what i said about needing to do a poo she says 'i have to tell mummy or daddy to take me to the toilet'. So she knows but i dont think it clicks. I dont think she knows what it feels like to need to go just yet so think thats making it harder. Its frustrating tho as DD1 just did it and i didnt have any trouble toilet training her and she was alot younger. Oh well... keep trying i spose. I am going to start them a rewards chart today for other behaviour and bedtime so will see how that goes. DD1 responds really well to reward charts.

Sierra is having her needles tonight :thumbsdown: Not looking forward to that. I think the only positive thing about it is that last time she slept for 12hrs afterwards. So hopefully she does that tonight so i can catch up on some sleep. She has been sleeping really well though so shouldnt complain. Could be worse. She is still talking heaps. Shes also starting grabbing at her feet and trying to eat them :laughing: its very cute. She hasnt been weighed in a while but i have her next CHN appoint on the 22nd for her 4month review so i'll find out then. She has put on quite a bit i think... starting to get the rolls on her thighs lol.

Well hope everyone has a great weekend. Will catch up again soon.
:wave:

[Tabby]

Hels: I had a peek and posted, what beautiful bubbas! Wish I had a video camera to add a video profile, kept trying to change background to my choice pic but ended up blank so gave up lol.
Afraid im the the computer :geek: in this house.
Have fun shopping!

:hugs: for Sierra today!!

This morning Katies on her back and twisting right over so not long now till she masters the back to tummy too,rather than flukes it. wonder if she will roll right back again seeing shes not keen tummy lol
She thought she was smarty pants cos could see lots more with the twist, than up at the roof or to the side.

[Flicka]

Hi ladies

LukeandMattsMum - Hope your big boy is feeling better. Yes, there is nothing worse than when the kids are sick as you feel so helpless. Poor you having to look after sick big boy and bubby too!
Bossoflatch - We had the rotavirus and will have the 2nd dose next time. No reactions here but apparently you should look out for stomach upsets. Doctor said you will know it if bub had a bad reaction.
Mouse - toilet training is the pits :thumbsdown: .
With my DS we try and leave him in undies as much as possible but are still using nappies for sleeps and going out. He has lots of mistakes and sometimes screams when we insist he sits on the loo but we are just persisting. We have a heap of matchbox cars as rewards for good days without many mistakes. He tells me when he wants to wee/poo but doesn't always do it on the loo. I agree that sometimes the conncetion isn't there about realising they need to go. It all takes time but is hard when you have other kids to look after. We say to DS that he can do something (like watch TV or go outside) but only after he does a wee. he usually has a whinge but eventually does a wee so that he can do what he wants. Even if he asks for a juice or milk or for his lego I say he can have it after a wee. Works some of the time anyway.

Well, Kelsey had her ECG this morning but the technician didn't tell us anything at all. Oh well, will have to wait until cardiologist appointment next friday. Have a big knot in my stomach and an ache in my heart until I find out how she is :( .

[Flicka]

Ok, so I am totally hopeless with the computer. Have been playing around with my profile but can't figure out how to network with you ladies. Only manages to have Cordelia and Hels 'cos they networked with me.....and Tabby from her page. What am i doing wrong???? Do I have to go to your profiles to network?

[Strawberry_Shortcake]

Hey Flicka,
I'm the same. Thought i would do some work on my homepage while Talon is asleep but i just don't know how to network with the ladies either :confused: .

[Tabby]

Hey Flicka,
I'm the same. Thought i would do some work on my homepage while Talon is asleep but i just don't know how to network with the ladies either :confused: .

Just click on our names and go to our zoints page, then up the top left it has the option to add us to your network :thumbsup:
accepted yours flicka and added you to mine strawberry :)

[Tabby]

Well, Kelsey had her ECG this morning but the technician didn't tell us anything at all. Oh well, will have to wait until cardiologist appointment next friday. Have a big knot in my stomach and an ache in my heart until I find out how she is :( .

Massive :hugs::hugs: and :fingerscrossed: for a good result!

[Hels*Bels]

To Network - Click on the username of the person to network with, select view zoints profile. At the lefthand side near the top is a network request. Select that and they will get a PM request, then all they have to do is agree!

Tabby - To add background to your page, under profile, select "editor mode (advanced)".
Then under style editor select "edit current style" Click on "page" and then in the next column click "edit image". An upload screen will open. Click browse to select the location of the file, it has to be a jpg, bmp or gif. Make sure the repeat option is selcted to yes. Select middle and centre in the alignment options.
Then submit and close window when it's done.
Then click save changes on the editor screen.
Hope this works :D

[Tabby]

Cheers for that, I was missing the centre and middle alignment!

[Tabby]

Evening all,

Very quiet here at the moment.
As I have been suspecting that Katie was teething I quite often rub and feel her gums, thought I felt something so we got a little torch and had a peek, think theres a tooth coming through! Going to have another look in the sunlight tomorrow to double check.
Oh and another milestone, Shes holding her own bottle, shes been trying to for a couple of weeks now but tonight she actually held it for ages with no help.
I just had the biggest laugh over this thread http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=88866
Hope everyone has a great weekend and some good sleeps. xxx

[Tabby]

All sleeping in I hope!

ITS A TOOTHY PEG!! its cutting a bit at the back but its there, explains last weeks temp and diarrhea, must have been that more than jabs
Katie didn't wake till 630 :smiliedance:
She did stir at 4 am as usual but went back to sleep till 530ish when I heard her chatting away, I nodded off till 630 when it changed from chatting to " ok get me up now!" lol
She has a new sound, most confusing, its like a whinge but shes not complaining just making sounds with her tounge poking out :laughing:

Cheeki, on the prev page Hels explains how to add background :thumbsup:. Your not alone I needed help there too.

Hope everyone has a lovely weekend.
Quiet one here again..No $ to do much again just yet..cant wait till we are back on our feet again and can do things!!

[sugar n spice]

tabby - we are tight for money aswell atm. cant wait till things are a little better financially but the main things are there is always food on the table and the morgage gets paid.

[Cordelia]

Hi everyone,

Well, last night Caitlin FINALLY slept through again.. AMAZING!!

My DH and Mum both heard the same interview by the baby whisperer that says quite often babies wake up coz they're cold so last night I had singlet, all in one, sleeping bag, sheet and 2 blankets and it worked a treat! I wish I had known it was that easy and I wouldnt have been having sleepless nights for the last 3 weeks!!

I AM FEELING GREAT THIS MORNING!!!

Yeah, we're broke as well - stupid education department stuffed up and had me still working which means I think I've got 2 pays that I don't deserve. So not only are we back to one wage but we have to pay back thousands... I thought they were being extra generous giving me holiday pay!! I have our weekly shopping down to about $60 a week (not including nappies) so I'm very proud of that! Except last week when DH came along and spent $135!! I made sure I did the shopping when he was at work this week!!!

[aries_moon]

hi all, sorry it takes me ages to get around to post, but xavier is keeping me very busy lately.......

first of all :hugs: to TABBY on the loss of your nanna......but how exciting about katie's 1st tooth, must have been why she was feeling so crappy.

CORDELIA awesome about the sleeping through, so desperate for x to do the same so will try doing the extra layers tonite too, as when I go to him in the middle of the nite, he has kicked off his covers, so not sure if he wakes before or during that. Haven't used sleeping bag yet, so will do tonite. Also when does caitilin have her last feed?? X is having his around 6 pm and goes down around 6:30-7, though lately he's been screaming at bedtime, which a few of you have been going through as well. So wondering if he needs to go to bed later??? very clueless sorry, but his last nap is usually 2 or 3 pm and only for an hour, so by 6 he is very cranky......sorry blah blah I REALLY need an instruction manual for my baby, PLEASE!! lol


oh my there he is screaming again, lucky dp is off having a leisurely swim!! grrr!! hope to catch up later tonite, bye for now.........

[victoria75]

Tabby: I cant believe we are on to teeth already. Yeah for Katie. That does explain a lot about earlier in the week.

I am going to try the extra blankets also. I'll report back to see how it goes.

Have a good night everyone.

Plus I managed to get a photo of the little miss on my avatar. :smiliedance: Now you can see at least what one of us looks like.

[Flicka]

Wow, quiet around here this w/end......

Tabby - yay on katie finally cutting a tooth. I'm sure everything will settle now that one has come thru - now she has a tooth to bite with. From memory with DS the 1st tooth was the one that upset him the most. The rest were a breeze.
Cordelia - Glad you have sorted Caitlin out and yes I also heard that alot of wakeups are due to the cold. I live in the tropics but Kelsey still has on long sleeves/pants and a sheet and blanket overnight.
Aries - Yes I think alot of us have been thru some screaming periods lately. I think we all sort of concluded it might be developmental. I actually noticed Kelsey's tired signs have changed lately too. Now she rubs her ears and the back of her head when she is tired. And of course the obvious thumb sucking. Hope X has a good night tonight.

Thanks for all of the thoughts about Kelsey. The appointment can't come soon enough for me.

enjoy the rest of your weekend ladies....oh, and 1st mothers day coming up next w/end for alot of you - how exciting. Start dropping hints for a gift now!!!! I would love a good book, a box of nice chocolates and to have a long bath while enjoying them!!!

[Flicka]

Victoria - such a cute pic!!!! :)

[Tabby]

Sugar, Same here food,rent paid first. ANyone else can wait in line lol
Just would be nice to go out, havnt for months!

Thanks Aries. :hugs:

Cordelia: YAY for the night through! Hope you get many many more now.

victoria: Shes a cutie!!!

Flicka: Sure hope your right regards easy going from now on, shes a bit grizzly again tonight and was all sweaty and clammy, so gave some panadol and now shes talking in bed at the moment..Am considering slowly losing the dummy, she wakes for it a few times but then promptly spits it out. Shes never has it any other time but sleep so shes not too dependant it yet so should be easy...will try n see how goes lol.

Hope everyone has a good night
xx

[Charis]

WOW A TOOTHY PEG!! Congrats Katie and Tabby :)

Victoria, she is one gorgeous bubba!!! Great to see her.

The current articles, to the left <<<< have 'toothy matters' as one, might look it up after this.

Aries, hardly one to give advice after H's physio screaming fit. He seems to be getting either much more a) sensitive to reading my face if I'm frowning or looking uncertain about him going to sleep (!!) (ok ok its a long shot!) or b) wanted a bigger dummy, which he now has. But...and if this helps with X then awesome, only our system here..
Feeds 6ish - Bath 7ish +Massage followed by short feed again and is asleep by 8ish. The only other reason for screaming before going to sleep, besides being overstimulated (ie his Daddy!) is wind..so I do make sure he's burped too..and if he starts bringing legs up to tummy, then assist with the leg jiggles for wind. But you probably do all that.. Hmm it is also known as the fractious hour by many and yes, co-incides with just when DPs come home and parents want to cook dinner too. Hels+Reeces arsenic hour..how is that going?? Going going gone? Hmm, sorry Aries, not much help but maybe is there something in that??

H now sleeps with his arms stretched right out like an airplane. Arh the luxury of the cot.3rd night.

Cordelia WOW for your sleep through. Good on Caitlin :)

Flicka, glad you said K's tired signs have changed. I haven't seen a yawn for weeks now. Pretty much put him to sleep 1.5hrs after waking up (all day) and around the time he's getting a bit grumpy.

Does anyone else get a lot of MMMmmmMMMsMMMMMMsMMMMs? Sometimes it means he;s uncomfy and he wants to chuck, or had enough time on his tummy, of is loosing patience getting dressed.. I can't remember the baby whisperer cries, this wasn't one!??

Oh and do any 'slump' in their car seats? Sometimes I'm driving along (trying to co-incide with his sleeps) and turn around to see his head near his knees. I know it sounds like the straps aren't tight enough, but when they do up they are..like a naughty horse that 'puffs out!'Maybe he moves and shifts! I don't want him getting whiplash, how I drive. oops not at all funny I know.

Thanks also for the thoughts about the little struggling bubby to colleagues/friends. Baby Lucas is 25wks and is less than a 1kg but is 'breathing' now without a ventilator! It will be a long long time before he's home, but hopefully hopefully hopefully he will keep going.

Night all. Cherish our little sleeping darlings all!

[Tabby]

Charis: We dont have issues re how her head sits when asleep car, was thinking is the seat as laid back as can be? Maybe too upright? Straps in lowered position? As in not the top slots for older? Otherwise sorry not much help....

No mmmm's here but lots of this one new sound, sounds like a whine/grump and is continuous, noise with her tounge poking out lol. Not grumps though as is happy, just found she out she can do it :laughing:

Glad to hear the little bub Lucas is doing good, fingers crossed and in thoughts that stays that way xxx

late one tonight..
night all

[Tabby]

Was saying a few days ago how looked like katie was going be a early crawler, each day since shes improved, this morning she commando crawled from one side of rug to the other! Mind you she was face planted while doing it though :laughing:
Wish had a video cam to share...

Another sleep through till 6.15, only woke 530ish, dummy in and right back to sleep. Looks like our 4am wake has finally gone! YAY

[Strawberry_Shortcake]

Tabby – A toothy beg for Kaitlyn already Congratulations.

Cordelia – Congrats on Caitlin sleeping through. Lets hope it continues.

Victoria – Your bub is a cutie.

Charis – So glad to hear that baby Lucas is doing so well.

Not much happening here. Hubby is working today. Went and seen some of the rellies yesterday and they couldn’t believe Talon’s just over 4 months already. He was very spoilt and an :angel: yesterday. Everyone adored him. I just finished cleaning the house and hanging out washing, just have the mopping to do and I’m finished for the day:smiliedance: .

Happy Sunday to all
Kel

[Hels*Bels]

Charis - We still have arsenic hour on and off. Yesterday we were at a friend's place around 5.30pm and it was the first time he did it in public. I think they were a bit surprised as normally he is a very happy and placid baby.

I fed him in the car on the way home last night, when home he slept in his swing until bedtime and then slept through until 7am. I have started wrapping again so will wait until he is in the cot before trying sleeping bags again.

We are having an "at home" day today, catching up on housework and I have the bookwork to do later.

BTW, Reece lifted his head right up today during tummy time :thumbsup:

Hope everyone is having a great sunday :D

[Cordelia]

Thank goodness wehad another good night last night :) she went til 7:30 and then we all slept til 10!! That almost sounds like pre-baby days!

Aries - Caitlin has a nap from around 6 til 8 and then she wakes up for bath/feed/story/feed then bed. Maybe you could try a dream feed with Xavier when you go to bed? That might help him last all night. How'd the sleeping bag go? I'm having to wrap Caitlin in her sleeping bag because she still startles and wakes herself up.. she looks alittle ridiculous!

We have lots of mmm's and rrr's and not many goo's and ga's.. I think her speech development has gone backwards!! Also still waiting for her to start reaching for toys and things. She looks at them in amazement and wonderment but hasn't realized that hand can touch.

We had our winter wood stock pile delivered yesterday that poor DH is stacking by himself... better go cheerlead him or something.

[jacstar31]

I am soooooooo exhausted!!
geoffrey has woken every 3 hours last night and every 2 hrs the night before.....I feel like I have a newborn again!
not sure what the problem is? teeth? too cold? too hot? have dealt with cold/hot and still not convinced its teeth, maybe just another growth spurt??
whatever it is, can't wait to get my baby back sleeping thru the night!!

[Acacia]

Hey Jackstar, i totally empathise, Tom is doing the same thing. He is eating like crazy too...i feel like i cant get enough food into him! I found a bit of white poking through his gum today. He is constantly chewing on his hand on that side, but its hard to believe he is teething so early.

I send all my love to little Lucus...i hope he holds on. I cant even imagine what that must feel like for his parents. I do feel blessed everyday when i look at Tom.

I hope everyone else is doing well. Lets hope all our bubs learn to sleep through soon!:fingerscrossed:

[Ellembee]

Jacstar - i really think it must be a growth or developmental spurt they go through at this age as a lot of the Jan babies seem to have gone through this. G's lasted a few days. Its horrendous being that tired again isn't it?

[LadyLou]

its really slowing down in here.....

Charis - E has had her head at her feet in her carseat from the day we bought her home, I have no idea why she does this, she pulls herself forward and just stays that way. I've often tried to manouvre (sp) her sleeping head back to the "normal" position, only for her to lean forward again and carry on sleeping??? Was starting to think she had tight muscles somewhere??? I don't know? When I drive it's kinda funny though to look back and see this little head sitting straight up, bobbing around, a bit like a little old woman :laughing:

Sorry - too tired for more - just spent two days at "work" so wanting my bed!

Take care :wave:

[Tabby]

Morning all,

Cheeki: I tried watching your vids, they sit on the loading screen for some reason .
Waited a bit but nothing..
Such a sad thing your sil. That really touched my heart, :hugs: Blessed to have spent some time with her before.

jackstar: Hope you get some good sleeps back again real soon hun, weve only just got past ours last 2 nights been through again after over a week of constant waking. I actually felt worse lack sleep than did newborn! Wonder why that is..grab those mummy naps when can.

2cutekidz: Hope you got a good night after your w.e work and feeling rested.

To all those having bad nights again :hugs:
Having just been through it fully understand but there is a end soon am sure. Hang in there!

Off to Aries_moon's for coffee and pick up wtp set later this morning (:thumbsup: freddie! ), am totally looking forward to it, having missed perth meet and not been out much at all, cept food shopping once!
:wave: seeya about 11ish Aries.

Better go get some things done while Katie naps in pram.

[SammyG]

Hi everyone,
I haven't been on for a while so apologies if I don't get everyone's personals.

Tabby, can't believe Katie has a tooth and already doing commando. M screams at tummy time still!

Charis, hope little Lucas is doing well!

Cheeki, Yes I appreciate M more everytime I hear a story like your SIL's.

Hels, glad R doesn't have arsenis hour so often anymore!

Jacstar, hope your nights improve soon!

Here, well it looks like the 4am feed is finally on it's way out. Getting 10-6 more often with a 10-8 on fri night. M not interested in tummy time but is pulling himself to sit upright if you have him inclined slightly. We are at that awkward between sizes stage, too long for 000's with feet, just a little too short for 00 and way too narrow for those baggy clothes. He is feeling heavier though, will try to weigh him this week.

[sugar n spice]

morning all. well ash woke a couple of times during the night but i just popped the dummy back in and he had a feed at 7.30 am so i think thats good.

ash looks like hes ready to take off. you can see he wants to crawl to his brothers. amazing how quickly they grow. i bet he will be crawling soon.

loves his fist puts the whole fist in, he loves it more than his dummy. loves his custard.

cheeki - so sad about your sil

well im having a boring day at home and waiting for pay day on wednesday as we are so broke. i have been doing alot of home baking

[Hels*Bels]

Charis - All the best to Lucas and family, I hope he pulls through :fingerscrossed: . It must be so hard for the parents to see their little bub like that. It's amazing what modern day technology can do though.

Us - We had a good night again (thanks to wrapping), 10pm to 8am and then 9am to 11am. I think I have over-slept today haha. We have had a new mattress delivered today for our bed so I am hoping it is more comfy than the last one. We had a latex one, it is only 3 years old but we don't like it and would never have another one. We have gone back to a spring one with cushion top, it's a Sealy so it should be good. (Thank you to the 48 months interest free ;) )

I am going to ring Melb IVF today to see what the go is for trying for another bub. I feel like I want to start earlier but I'll see what they say. We are going to keep it a secret from DH's family and friends this time but I will tell my parents and sister as I need to confide in someone and they are in UK anyway. I think it will be easier for us if R was still small when I go to all the appointments and procedures. Can you imagine trying to have an internal ultrasound done with a toddler running riot? :laughing:
BTW, one of the Feb mummas is PG again!! doesn't take long does it?

Tabby - Have you started TTC'ing now? and anyone else?

We are off to the shops this arvo, I will walk down to Coles and that way I am restricted on how much I can buy lol. I prefer to do my shopping in drips and drabs now rather than a huge shop at once.

[sugar n spice]

hels that is great you are wanting another one. wow a feb mum pregnant again already:eek:. it doens 't take much does it:p

[SammyG]

Go Hels, and Speedy Conceptions to everyone else TTC!

I too like to do little shops (hard when you are feeding 3, nappies on two with a compulsive eater DH who luckily does a physical job otherwise he would be huge)

Money here very tight! Every week it's a big payment for all of May & I just got the invoice for my lovely professional pics taken back in March :eek: Add the christening in June and it's even worse! Plus I only have one pair of jeans and they have holes in the b*m and are falling down (ok, so I'm proud of the falling down part LOL)

[Ellembee]

[B]Tabby [B] I agree that the tiredness is worse this time around than when newborn. Maybe we don't have the right hormones swishing around at this stage?

Re TTC - I would love to, but for one, I don't have AF yet, and 2, we would need to buy a bigger house - which we can't afford to do right now. Apparently the cluckiness when the first bub is about 3 months is very natural.

[tired*mummy]

Hi Everyone

Cheeki - :hugs: for your SIL. Its such a horrible and sad experience. I hope she is coping as best as she can.
Charis - Hope your friends bubba is doing well. That also is a stressful & not very nice experience.

Well not much happening here really. Sierra is still sleeping quite well. She had her needles on Friday night and had a bit of a grizzly day on Saturday but is now back to her happy self. DH took DD1 & 2 to the footy on saturday :laughing: He had a hell of a time controlling them lol. About time he finally realised what i have to go thru everytime i go out with them and also take care of a baby.
Started DD1 & 2 on reward charts today... hopefully that might help sort out a few problems we have been having with them.

Sleep vibes to all who need them.
:wave:

[Tabby]

Hels, Sure have! Af is returning already, depo ran out last week and have been spotting last 2-3 days. Getting rather excited now that its all clear. Shouldt be long for O to return and a proper af for clomid
YAY a TTC buddy who I already know!

Home from coffee with Aries_moon and x with his beautiful big blue eyes!, thankyou for the chat and was great to see you both again

Freddie! How can I thank you enough! Its beautiful and brand new! Also had sheet set, which I also needed, HUGE thankyou.
Will take a pic later, plan on bumper just sitting in it for now and remove on sleep times but my does it look beautiful!

K calling, way over tired as she couldnt take her eyes off X heh

[Hels*Bels]

Thanks for the well wishes re TTC'ing, although it will still take a while for us. Last time we were a year just getting through the appointments, tests and red tape.
This time around will involve more appointments and cycle monitoring so I expect it will still be towards the end of the year before any insemination happens. Just wanted to get the ball rolling now as it takes so long.
Tabby, I expect you will be PG way before me!

Has anyone had a look at the new auction site on here called Monkeys Undies? I have registered and started listing some items today. My username on there (if anyone wants a squizz) is hels_bels. Same name but with an underscore.

We spent the last hour putting the new mattress on the bed and making it, can't wait to try it out!

Happy :sleeping: vibes to all.

[Tabby]

Hels: hope your new mattress gives you a great sleep and very comfy, we have one like that now, best thing we ever purchased.

http://picasaweb.google.com/Kaitlyn2006/KatieAndFamily/photo#5061696625450588690
The cot set from freddie xxx Cant get over how lovely it looks SO HAPPY!

oh Katie has diarrhea again late this afternoon, what a mess that nappy was :(

[Cordelia]

Arrgghhh we're going through the whole teething thing for the 3rd time now - only worse! She whinged allll day.. I'm so tired!! She passed out at 6 for her long sleep (which is usually 8 hours) and I don't have the heart to wake her for her for a feed so I'm guessing she'll wake at 2am! GREAT!

We had our 4 month CHN appointment today - it was late for the adjusted age. She's doing well. She's 4.82kgs. I complained about the CHN from last week making me feel terrible and shes going to "have a word" (yeah right!) I felt a bit like a "dobbers kiss robbers" sort of person but I thought that they should know!

Stupid DH got the flu so I haven't let him come near me or Caitlin today.. and am tempted to sleep in the spare room tonight. I can't BELIVE IT! He supposedly had the flu shot a few weeks ago as well. I really couldn't handle that!

Hope bubs are all going well! It's been very quiet in here the last couple of days!

[sugar n spice]

hi
cheeki - hope the seperate cots goes smoothly.:hugs:

well i think i have a cold coming on, my nose wont stop running and im sneezing all day. i cant get a cold or the flu as i have my stats test at tafe this wkend so i need to be well. ds (my oldest) looks like he is getting a cold aswell so :fingerscrossed:ash doesnt get it.

well off to bed soon

[Tabby]

Cordelia: mum was telling me yesterday that apparently the flu needle takes 6 weeks to fully work, gp told her if you get the flu before that then were going to get it anyway. Hope DH gets better fast and no-one else gets it :hugs:

cheeki: hope the cot move for Zaide went well and he slept well xx
thanks for the tip washing bumper. :thumbsup:

sugar;hope your feeling better?
dp and ds2 have had hayfever for 4 days now, why do males always sniff!
must be the time for all the colds/flus to show up. i went to bed early last night with a sore throat and temp, seems ok this morning so hope thats it.

back later

[Charis]

Hi all:wave:
Oh Cheeki28 hope the waking up in the seperate cots went ok. I feel for you (all do!). H for the last few days has started feeling v unsecure in his big cot, during the day, back to screaming to sleep and then me relenting and holding him or feeding him. Oh so heartrending. Just now I tried it with the canopy thing from his old bassinet over his head..like its been for 4months, so the cot kinda looks like an igloo living in it. (oops should take it out when asleep, now!) but worked!!!!!!!! YAH I was getting to dread sleep time again.

Oh meant to write, if Z still hates it, could the cots be directly side by side, so they still feel v close. ? Move them 5cm a day ??

Sorry to hear about the sick ones! Wonderful Mums, Bubs + DPs. :fingerscrossed: get well soon.

Sammy G, I think M and H have the same lean long stats. But our waist lines are far different!! Jeans falling down you lucky thing. V Paris Hilton too.

Sugar all the best studying!

Hels was going to click on the ad to left yesterday. Will check it out. Love ebay, hate real life shopping. But bought 2xpants and vest for H and the only thing that hasn't arrived it seems, or been nicked :) Funny thing to nick 00 boy clothes!! Oh he has no pants that fit, only wondersuits, s'ok still think they look in cute in them.

Tabby the cot looks GORGEOUS! oops barcodes. Sending NOW!!

Will post an 'igloo' shot soon!!
xx

[SammyG]

Charis, I neglected to mention they are my fat jeans that I wore 1st half of pregnancy and they are probably stretched! Just wishful thinking on my part that figure is on it's way back.

M rolled from back to front for 1st time this morning (I'm surprised as he hates tummy time) I am also wrapping so loosely that he has arms out today. Have tried to stop wrapping before but he wouldn't settle, today he seems ready and is on his 2nd nap of the day with free arms. Can't wait to get out his cute little sleeping bags!

[Flicka]

Hi ladies...
Cheeki - :hugs: for the big cot move. I was going to say the same as Charis - can you put the cots side by side? Not very practical I know but maybe L and Z will feel more secure if they can see each other. And yes, can't understand men and their thinking sometimes. i mean, it's not like they will sleep together forever so you will need 2 cots eventually. But lets face it, they have been so close for so long right from conception so it is bound to be difficult.
Sugar - Hope you are feeling better. Not like you can rest with your little brood to look after.
Hels - OOOOOOOHHHHH. Best wishes for starting TTC. I know lots of appointments and probably some invasive difficult stuff but as you say better to do it while Reece is young. At least you know what you have to do/go thru this time around.
Tabby - hope Katie is ok and no more dirty nappies. Maybe more signs of teething?

Things good here. kelsey slept from 6.30pm to 5am this morning. She is such a sweetie and greets me with big smiles every day. I love that little chubba bubba so much (and my 2 year old). So funny last night - DS was having a bit of a tantrum about having to have a bath. he was whining and lay down on the floor which made Kelsey crack up in a fit of giggles. She totally diffused the situation and made DS and I laugh. Can't wait until DS and Kelsey can play together.

[Hels*Bels]

That's some good advice for Cheeki about putting the cots together :thumbsup:

Tabby - Love the cot set, did Freddie make that or what was her connection?

Charis - That's interesting what you said about the hood/igloo. It's made me think that maybe I should put the hood down on R's basinette before we move him out of it. I have already started to push it back a bit so I will do it gradually over a few nights.

Sugar - How do you feel today? I have also woken with a cold :thumbsdown: I'm going to have a couple of quiet days at home to recover as I want to go into the city on friday.

No more news from me really, I didn't sleep well as the new mattress is firmer than our old one, but I will get used to it. DH on the other hand said he had a great night's sleep, at least one of us did lol.

[sugar n spice]

hi everyone,
well ethan didnt go to school today as he has his cold and im still snuffly but dont feel too bad.

Ashton just gobbled down some custard. he is getting the hang of eating atm. had a feed at 10pm last night finished the bottle and wanted more so had to make another one lol that said he slept till 7.30 am

[Lukeandmattsmum]

Well we have just come back from the doctors for Matts 4mth needles:crying: And have also discovered that Matthew has thrush, and might have reflux. I have been wondering lately if he has reflux or just gets bad wind. So i described what happens with doc and he said it sounds like it could be reflux. But then when i mentioned that he has milk still on his gums he said he has thrush and that this might be making him upset. So i got a script for Zantac but have to wait a week or so to see how he goes after he gets over the thrush.

Adding to all this, when i get home DS1 now has a temp. Not sure if he getting sick or just cutting his two year old molars. AHHH kids.

:hugs: to CHEEKI with the cot separation.

Matthew is making it to about 4am to 5am in the mornings now so pretty happy with that. I just need to learn to go to bed earlier.:banghead:

Matt also decided that he would try and roll over in the bath the other night:eek: talk about giving me a heart attack. He thought it was funny though.

I think he will be crawling in no time, i cant keep him on his play mat, he either pushes himself off or twist himself upside down. Can't i keep him little for a bit longer.

Better go check on the boys. Catch up some more later.

Brissie girls don't forget meet next Wed 16th

[2s'nuff]

Hi-ya girlies,

I've been AWOL for a few days. DH flew out again this morning, so we'll have two weeks of routine again now.

TJ had her needles yesterday. No dramas with her, just a quick tear. DD1 on the other hand was twirling around and tripped over her feet, falling and banging her head on a meatal doorstop (in the nurses room). Very scary as she siezed for a moment (arched her back and went stiff) then came out of it. Lots of blood and screaming, DD1 from the pain and shock, TJ from being held by someone she didn't know. Doc checked DD1s head and said it was superficial. She appears to have got over it, the wound is still seeping slightly but not causing any pain. I think those at the docs were happy to see the back of us.

Tabby...:smiliedance: Katie has a tooth
Victoria...love the avatar pic
Jacstar...hope you've had a better nights sleep recently.

Hope everyone else is doing ok, better go TJ awake again:banghead: . She's learnt a bad sleeping habbit at daycare and doesn't sleep more than one cycle at a time.

Lisa

[victoria75]

Hi everyone,

Tabby: Love the cot set, just looks gorgoeus. hope Katie is over the runny nappy.

Mousebrown: Hope DD1 is still doing Ok. It must have been pretty scary for you. Poor Tj, she really must have been miffed getting jabbed and then having to go to someone else. :hugs: 's for both you and DD1 and TJ.

Cheeki - I know this isnt what you want to hear but I think that is just the most gorgeous thing I have heard in ages. So cute that he misses his sister so much. But I do hope it continues to sort itself out for you. Good Luck.

Hels- Good Luck with TTC . Just be careful after No2. We thought we were safe and look out here is No 3. Its weird how we needed so much help to get DS1 and DS2 and then with nothing at all we get the little miss. Hopefully it all runs smoothly and the first cycle is the magic one.:wizard:

Back later fighting out back. DS1 and 2.

[Tabby]

Hels: freddie was given it by someone who allready had one and so did she..I think..Its new and was still in its packaging. :D I cant stop going in there to look, its just gorgeous! Should have seen katie checking it out, even the sheets last night with wtp all over them had her occupied and fell asleep no problems lol.
How did your call go ivf?

Charis: :laughing: cant wait to see his igloo.
whatever works hey hun.

cheeki: Hope things go well in the cots tonight for you xx

Lukeandmattsmum: :hugs: for the needles Matt and TJ and any other bubs Ive missed that were due xx
yep getting the stage where cant take eyes off for a second.
But yes Katie is trying to turn in the bath seat and her kicks and arms going makes look like shes going fly out anyhow lol

Mouse: lol goodness dd1 made the gp visit quite a day didnt she. Hope shes feeling ok, and of course TJ too!

victoria: thanks, Katies still suffering teeth unfortunately! That nappy was the start again, she did sleep through till 530 though, just been grizzly a bit today and shes pushing her gums together biting down on it, looks like a angry face when she does that lol.
I should try get a pic of it next.
Hows the miss? gaining some weight I hope, tell her its the only time in her life she will be encouraged to be a chubba so make the most of it! :laughing:

Still got my sore throat, like a bloomn razor blade in there, sore throats always hit me hard, tonsillitis late teens to 28yrs old, and for some reason affects me harder sore throats.

I didnt get af properly yet, just spotted and that seems to be it so will probably have to wait a few cycles to establish..ya never know though! So dp will get lucky anyhow lol

[Hels*Bels]

Mouse - Sorry to hear about what went down at the doctors, at least both girls are ok though :hugs:

Victoria - Great avatar photo (and on your profile). Thanks for the comment on my profile too.
We will only try for 1 more bub then that will be it for us. My DH is infertile so there's no chance of a 3rd bub happening by accident.

Tabby - I left a message for Melb IVF but I haven't heard back yet. I'll try again on thursday if I don't hear from them. Thanks for asking.

I opened a bank account for Reece yesterday. It is in my name and in trust until he turns 18. I researched a few and found ANZ to be the best. I want to add a bit to it each month if I can.
Has anyone else opened one for their bub?

Had a quiet day today just nursing my cold. R has had a whingy day. Hopefully DH will watch him for a while tonight, I'd like to take a long soak in the bath if I can :rolleyes:

[Cat13]

Just a quick post while I take a 5min break from my parents who are up from Melbourne to spend some time with their grandson. I love them and the extra hands to keep C busy are great but..........sometimes a little space is nice!

And C has been loving the extra attention during the day but the last 2 nights have been horrid. Last night he had feeds at 11, 2.30 and 4.30 then up at 6 & I was up at least 4 other times just to resettle with rocking. A little wind maybe but didn't seem that bad so not sure what the prob is. My parents think we are lying about C often sleeping through from 7pm through to 6am! Coping with sleep deprivation ok so far but if tonite is another bad one I'm not so sure. Maybe the extra stimulation of guests has unsettled him a bit so :fingerscrossed: for a better sleep tonite.

Better go sit with the parents again.....take care all and I'll catch up on all the goings on once my parents return to Melbourne next week.

[Flicka]

Hey Cat - hope things get better in the sleep department and yes, I think sometimes guests can throw out bubs routine (even if it is nanna and poppy). I think when there are extra people they get used to being held more and sometimes become restless and overstimulated. But still, must be nice for you to have some family visit!!

Hels - Yep, ANZ progress savers are the best accounts. Opened one for DS 2 years ago and deposit the required amount every month to get the bonus interest. Need to get one set up for Kelsey. Do they still get a piggy bank? DS got a really cute one!!

Question:
What will your bubs call their grandparents? My mum is Nanny and my Dad was Poppy but when DS began talking he called him "Pa" and it has stuck. My kids have Nanny and Pa and Nanna and Poppy. What about yours?

:fingerscrossed: for good sleeps everyone....

[Hels*Bels]

Hels - Yep, ANZ progress savers are the best accounts. Opened one for DS 2 years ago and deposit the required amount every month to get the bonus interest. Need to get one set up for Kelsey. Do they still get a piggy bank? DS got a really cute one!!

Question:
What will your bubs call their grandparents? My mum is Nanny and my Dad was Poppy but when DS began talking he called him "Pa" and it has stuck. My kids have Nanny and Pa and Nanna and Poppy. What about yours?

:fingerscrossed: for good sleeps everyone....

:yes: he got a cute piggy bank.

Both grandmothers are known as Granny and his 1 grandfather is Grandpa. It's always been that way in our family.

[Lukeandmattsmum]

[QUOTE=Flicka;1434772]
Question:
What will your bubs call their grandparents? My mum is Nanny and my Dad was Poppy but when DS began talking he called him "Pa" and it has stuck. My kids have Nanny and Pa and Nanna and Poppy. What about yours?

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Same here Flicka. My mum and Dad are Nanna or Nanny and was Pop or Poppy but Luke learnt to say Pa so it just stuck. Pauls Mum is Grandma

Well I come home from work this arvo and Matt has been fine after his needles but Luke keeps getting temps. Poor little man:thumbsdown:

[arachel2]

Our little Girl Ella was born late Jan almost 7 weeks Prem. My name is Rachel I am 35 and my husband Matt is 36. We live in the northern suburbs of brisbane. Always looking to try to make mates around our area. my email adress is arachel2@hotmail.com. email me anytime for a chat .

take care
Rachel.

[dragonflyblu]

Hi All, I have been offline for awhile moving. I have now left brisbane - oh beter update my profile! I am now on the central coast of NSW in the house we own with my brothers family. Clea has started to be really active, she rolls onto her belly in her sleep, her head comes up almost automatically and she wakes up and cries. I went through 2 nights of this and last night she stayed on her back and side. She sleeps on her side all the time and fights me when I try to roll her on her back.
DH is in vietnam and then he is back at work in Brisbane for a few weeks and then he is off to Europe to start the new job. So until I go to Europe I am a single mum for a few months. It is really HARD, oh my godnes how do you single mums do this all the time. Today I actually got annoyed at Clea crying on and off, I just wated to make some food and she would not stay put. I decided it was too ard and took her out and bought thai.

Clea misses her dad and she is grizzly from the move and being in a new place. Her little checks are red and she is chewing her hands and sucking her bottom lip and saying "mmm...mmm...mmm...mmmm" over and over until I pick her up. She looks very serious and I thought maybe she had teeth coming through, but she only does it around me around everyone else she is smiling and laughing. Anyone know what mmm...mmm..mmm means i baby speak?

I havent had a chance to catch up o the posts yet. Hope all is well with everyone.

[freddie]

hi everyone, just a quick post as I'm exhausted from 10 day back on regular night wakings. Mostly only twice a night but four times last night :eek: . Hamish had his 4 month needles today so I'm not holding out much hope for a great night tonight either. Does anyone know how long this pattern of waking up again lasts? I have two baby books that make no reference to it and one that does briefly and doesn't really have any suggestions. The Dr today thought it might be hunger which may be the case in which case maybe he'll keep waking at least twice a night until I start him on solids??? I really wanted to wait the 6 months though, especially as we have allergy history in both families.
sorry no personals tonight, all the posts I've just read have blurred into one!
kxx

[dragonflyblu]

Okay have read the thread. So relieved to hear most are having lots of wakes and crying to sleep as well. and that others have mm mmm mmmsounds.

rusks - you can buy some withut sugar, they are sweetened with mollasses (lots of iron) and no wheat. I think they are rice based. Must contact the women who told me about them to get the name.

clothes - clea is a little chubba, she is in 00 for most things but I put her in 0 tops mostly so they are longer and just roll the sleeve (which she then unrolls and chews)

Hair - Argh, I have heaps luckily because I could make a wig out of what I am loosing. Ifthis continues mayybe I should collect it and make a wig for when I am bald.

Oh I just realised that Clea might be fussy because I have my AF again. I am sure I just had it 2 weeks ago. I also have a coldsore and my skin has broken out. I really thought BF would keep all of that at bay, bummer:thumbsdown:

BFing - I never watch the clock, I have no idea how many feeds I do a night anymore. I just know I wake up with saggy boobies.

toilet training- I have tried ECing with Clea fr her #2's and before I moved we were getting good at it. The idea is that as soon as you see the "look" you take nappy off and hold them over a potty or toilet and you say the cue word, we use "poooooo" and she laughs but it works! I just let her do it on some flat terry's for now until she can hold be body stronger the I will try the potty. he idea is that by the time she can crawl she associtaes potty not nappy with toilet needs.:fingerscrossed:

[SammyG]

Granparents: Steve's parents were born in Croatia and are known as Baba & Dida, my Mum is meant to be Grandma but Ben has christened her Meema, my Dad is Grandad.

Dragonflyblu, :hugs: till you and DH are re-united & WOW about the potty training!

Welcome arachel2, how big is your little Ella now? What is her adjusted developmental age?

Hels, we opened a St George Power Saver for Ben in our names but we are making it a joint account for all our kids as it's too hard to split up everything here. I figure we will try to only use it for stuff for the kids and split it equally when they are all grown up. When we are flush I try to save all my coins by only breaking notes and that can really add up when you empty your purse every day into the moneybox.

I am up after a very rare 3am feed, Michael had a silly snack at 6pm and I was feeling too crappy with a head cold to wake him at 10pm for a good feed. I have lots to do today, playdate at park for Ben followed by coffee date with a girlfriend over from the UK for a brief stay.

[Strawberry_Shortcake]

Hello Ladies

Tabby – The cot set is just gorgeous.

arachel2 – :wave: and welcome. Looking forward to chatting to you.

Hels – I’ve opened an account up for Talon with ADCU (Defence Credit Union). He has the maternity payment in there and we put in $20 a week since he’s been born. T can’t touch it till he reaches 25. When it reaches $5000 we are going to put that into a term deposit so it can earn more interest.

Flicka – T will be calling my parents Grandma and Poppy. All my nieces and nephew call them that.

Not much happening here. Monday was a public holiday and so is tomorrow (Ipswich show). T has he’s naming ceremony on Saturday can’t wait for that. I’ve ordered a white chocolate mud cake from the cheesecake shop for it and I’m going to decorate it myself. T is still sleeping 10 to 12 hours a night which is fantastic:smiliedance: . He's at a great age and loving every moment with him:kiss:

Take care
Kel

[Tabby]

530 get up here lol
Just another hr would be nice,cant complain though as she sleeps through from about 730, only stirs now at 4am but re-settles her self.

grandparents..bit of a struggle here with names. both want to be called nanna and grandad, yet mil keeps calling my mum grandma and it doesn't go down too well with my mum. my mum has been nanna to all the kids! I just keep calling her nanna to mil as well.
Not like we cant teach Katie who's who later by saying nanna pat or nanna pam??
hopefully she accepts they both are nanna eventually.

freddie: Hope Hamish settles back to normal routine soon. xx Ours lasted just over a week and shes now going better than before as I don't have to get up to resettle at 4am.
Personally I think its just a stage, look at all these jan bubs doing the same thing at same time? Hang in there a bit longer and see before starting solids and :fingerscrossed: back to normal soon.

dragonflyblu: Feel for you, I was a single mum for many many years, I didnt realise how hard it really was being alone till dp came into our lives and with dd the HUGE difference it makes. Must be so hard having partner away like that.
Hope Clea settles into the new home soon.

arachel2: welcome! Look forward to getting to know you and your little one.

Lukeandmattsmum: Hope Luke's feeling better this morning.

cat13: Oh for sure the extra stimulation of visitors can affect their routine/sleep patterns, every time we have the il's here which means Katie is passed around heaps and usually passes normal nap time its a struggle after they leave to settle her, they stay for most the day as live a bit away. Now as soon as I see her signs I take her and pop her to bed, its not worth the stress after regardless of how mil sees it ( never happy as I think her pov is "but we came all this way!" by the little comments/look I get), im the one who has to deal with it after.
An example would be when taking her to nap " awww but we have to go soon" soon always ends up another hr or more lol
Are things quiet well before bed time? Either that or could just be this same thing most of us had/have with waking..

AM wondering if have offended her of late, been over 2 weeks since seen them and not even a call, am sure dp would have got one on his mobile by now...I do know shes not happy as we havn't been to theirs yet, its over a hr away country rd and Katie just doesnt like the car for longer than 20 mins so I keep putting it off.
Am I wrong in expecting them come here instead all the time? She constantly asks us go there and I tell her the same thing every time.

Beautiful day here Perth today!
Will take a walk later to the shops.
hope everyone slept well! xx

[SammyG]

Tabby, pretty much I don't care who is over, when M shows his tired signals I put him to bed. He is a baby and that's what they do! PPl still don't get it even with DS1. We don't do many late nights out with him. Friends never get it pre-children and keep asking and wonder why we keep refusing. Now that they have a little 8month old we suddenly have to work around her routine (somehow ours still doesn't count)
Regarding the outlaws, mine don't like our unit or driving the 5minutes to visit so we go to theirs and put up with the fumes from the petrol station across the road and the boredom of being cooped up in their unit without Ben' toys. We don't stay long.

Sorry for the rant!

[Tabby]

Yep, I learnt the hard way not to oblige them by keeping her up. I just wont do it now, if anyone wants to see more of her they can have a coffee and wait for her to wake. :D
I think she made me feel guilty there for a bit, but I soon woke up lol. Now no matter who it is K goes down when needs to.:thumbsup:

Lots of thinking this morning re: mil. Just asked dp and nope he hasnt heard from her for ages either, so not like her to call her boy at least every 2nd day ( never talks to me ). Am ****ed off to be honest, I said to her 2 weeks ago how now I had car she should come for the day and wed go out...nothing..ah well I tried. I explained to her how I hardley ever go out and would love to spend the day with her
I could ring her but I feel why should I. She NEVER calls me, didnt even give me her new mobile # and when rings here she never asks how I am.

Ok my rant over.....ah much better lol

[aries_moon]

ok let's see if I can stay on track here.........

grandparent's names: well df's parents are nana and grandad. My parents are in canada so they don't really get referred to yet, but they will be grandma and opa (my dad is dutch and that's what his other grankids call him)

bank accounts: we have one for X, and all I know is that it's some type of bankwest kids one as that's the bank df works for. He also has more $$ in it than I do my account, lol. We also invested in a managed fund with half the baby bonus which is actually going very well, have made about $200 in only 6 weeks!! Of course it can go up and down though. The reason we used the baby bonus for this is so we can put towards buying a house in Canada!! can't wait!!

night wakings!! very erratic here lately, of course i've come down with a cold yesterday so X woke up at 10:30, then 2 then 6!! Strange! Of course I attempted the dreamfeed at 8:30 but couldn't wake him up. I know you're meant to do it between 10-11 but I go to bed at like 8 or 9 these days, plus am sick. My baby whisperer book says erratic waking is due to hunger FREDDIE. I personally can't wait to start x on solids because he is always hungry!! I would top him up with formula even now, but won't take bottle:banghead: When he's 4 months I will try him on rice cereal and :fingerscrossed: might assist sleeping through............


oh yes, MIL'S and overstimulation....they've had kids so why don't they get it!!! Yep I put X down no matter who's around, BUT half the time he knows something's going on he will not go down. This kid protests sleep something fierce!!

Does anyone's bubs consistently nap 1.5-2 hours? X usually sleeps no longer than 1 hour and can't resettle again, this is my project the next few days, as well as teaching him to feed properly. According to baby whisperer book, X is a "snacker" as he pretty well feeds for like 5 mins. every hour. My dumb mistake as we've done this since birth, didn't know I would create problems. I know once he feeds properly, he should sleep properly. Anyone had a similar issue and overcome it??

CHARIS due to me feeling crapola, won't be coming to physio today, and I know it's your last one, so have a good one.!!

[Ellembee]

Hi everyone

Aries moon - re the snacking, G started doing that too, though not hourly, more like 2 hourly. I found (and still do sometimes) that the only way to "stretch her" a bit longer, is distraction, like popping her in the stroller and taking her for a walk outside. Why don't you set a goal of 1.5 hours between feeds for a few days, then try and stretch it out over the next few weeks to longer, until you get him to go 3 - 4 hours between feeds. Warning though, it is quite time consuming and you might need to put up with a bit of crying, so I suggest you don't even think about doing it until you are feeling better. Having said all that, even though G's time between feeds now is generally between 3 and 3.5 hours, she still rarely sleeps more than an hour at a time during the day.

Freddie and Dragonflyblu- You both seem to be going through what a lot of us on here have been through lately re night waking and general grizzliness. It is weird that it is not mentioned in any of the books, but it seems that heaps of us have gone through it. I personally think it is a developmental spurt rather than a growth spurt. For me, it conincided with G being able to turn the pages of her fabric books, hold onto and snuggle with toys etc. So if you don't want to start solids just yet Freddie, I wouldn't - I would just wait it out.

Hugs to you Dragonfly - I agree, after having G, I really take my hat off to all the single mums out there. It would be so hard. For me, its not even the physical help with the baby I need, it is the moral support and the adult conversation and close friendship at the end of each day I really cherish.

I wonder how Karrina is getting on?


E xx

[freddie]

wow, I'm so lucky with my friends and family as they are all so understanding about Hamish and sleep. My Dad visited once and Hamish was asleep the whole time so they didn't see him at all. That was in the days of 2 hour sleeps (albeit only once a week). Everyone knows that if the curtains are shut (H's room is by the front door) when they arrive then he's asleep. Amazing how many people 'forget' and talk loudly right outside his room though.

Aries we never sleep longer than an hour during the day and I've given up trying so if you're successful I'd love to know the secret! Hamish feeds every three hours or so at the moment so I don't think its related to the snacking necessarily.

Thanks for the encouragement re night sleeps Tabby, everyone I've spoken to says it doesn't last more than a week or two...:fingerscrossed: ...last night was ok - bed at 7.30pm then up at 12.30 and 4.30 and then slept until 8am this morning which is probably because of the needles yesterday. I've been limiting the night feeds to 10 mins each side cos he'd suck for 20+ minutes if he had his way but should get all the food he needs in the first 10 I think. H seems a bit tired and cranky this morning but no temperature like last time.

Its interesting to me that the waking again at night seems to coincide with the hair loss (yes I have it too)...must be a hormonal thing? Did anyone else find they coincided? Also interesting that there isn't much literature about it. The Dr yesterday suggested solids but I think that is a simplistic solution as he is getting enough milk I'm sure. I'm always suspicious of advice from young childless men, medical professionals or not! (not that I have had advice from any other ycm...)

I think I'm blathering this morning. ;) got work stuff to do...sigh...I thought I'd finished work?

kx

[sugar n spice]

arachel2 - welcome to the jan mums and congrats

on bank accounts i havent started one but im going into bankwest today so im signing up for one each and linking theirs to my net banking so i can just deposit a few dollars here and there. Only problem is i cant find sheldons birth certificate. can find all the others.

dragonflyblu - wow tt already.
ethan my 51/2 yrold looks like FINALLY is tt :yelclap:no day time accidents in 2 wks.

[tired*mummy]

HI everyone

MIL's - God they can be annoying! My MIL usually is ok but the other day she came home from taking DD1 to her swimming lesson and she wanted to see Sierra. Sierra was quite happy & content on her playgym as she had just woken up & been fed. MIL walks in & the first thing she does was pick Sierra up. Sierra screamed & didnt stop. She never does that. So MIL said oh she must be hungry. Nope i said shes just been fed, but thought i would try to settle Sierra by heating a bit more milk. Nope she didnt want it.. but MIL said it was cos it was too hot but it wasnt. I think i should know how warm Sierra likes her bottle. Then she said oh shes got pains in her tummy. Nope i said.. you would know if she had pains or wind cos she would be crying differently & she would be tense & screwing her legs up. Oh shes wet and need a nappy she said. I said 'you can try but i've just changed her in the last 10 minutes'. She tried that & Sierra still screamed. Then MIL said oh maybe she just wants you... DER! lol. So i tried to calm her down but she was too worked up & she kept crying. So MIL said well ifs shes gonna still cry for you then she can cry while i'm holding her not you! :eek: So she tried and tried to settle her.. i was fuming by this time. Then MIL says she wants her bottle now but its too cold. Really fuming now! Sierra has never ever screamed like that or for that long, not even when she had her needles. So about 45 minutes of MIL trying to make excuses as to what was wrong, & refusing to believe that it was her, Sierra was so tired that she just fell asleep. I was really angry & told DH about it. Told him i didnt want MIL to watch her EVER! :laughing: It mad me very angry & very upset.Shes also the type of lady that makes you feel incompetant (sp?) as a mum. Really annoys me.

[2s'nuff]

Hi-ya girlies,

Welcome Arachel2
:hugs: to those of you with colds/flu ata the moment. I had a tummy bug last Wednesday (why does all the action always start at 1am?).
:hugs: to those of you with MIL problems. My MIL flies back in in two weeks for a week. She's always a big help and only around for a short time and we get along well together. Looking forward to having a few meals cooked for me again.
Bank Acc...DD1 already had one that we automatically deposit $50 into each month, so I've just started adding Tj's money into this and keeping track of who's $ is who's. This way TJ's money starts to earn bonus interest straight away.
Grandparents...Stick to your guns Tabby about your mum beng referred to as Nanna. One of my SIL decided to go against the already determined names (IMO first grandkids get the choice), so at Christmas time MIL was Nanna to Brother 1's kids and DD1 and Grandma to Brother 2's kids. Likewise FIL is known as Pop/Grandfather.:banghead: sure this SIL does this just to draw attention to herself.
My girls have a Nanna & Pop Brown(MIL FIL)/Butler/Gray, Nanna Ovens, Nanna Iris (6 Great grandparents) and Mama and Gramps (my Mum and Dad). Yep, we've got lots. Nanna Iris is 94 in a couple of weeks:eek: .

Another crazy night at our house last night. I managed to get 3.5 hours sleep (9.30-1), then after that I was either up feeding TJ or getting up to DD1. Think I managed another hour or so of 5-15 minute naps. I'm a wee bit tired today.

Have a good day!
Lisa

[Tabby]

Mouse: Your mil sounds lovely! Mine is a great cook and had many promises of help pre preg but havnt seen any as yet and yes I am sticking to my guns regards nanna :thumbsup:, Talked to DP and told him he has to stand by me and help "remind" her when needed that they are both nanna's. Would be bloody stupid to have Katie call her grandma and the boys call her Nanna anyway. How confusing for the kids to have different?
They ask enough questions as to why why why as it is later without adding to it :laughing:

[Tabby]

Cheeki: missed your post..Hope your nights improve soon hun. :hugs:
Tiredness would play a HUGE factor in your not wanting to dtd and your being cranky etc, so hopefully some good sleeps for you both and can work on your relationship. (((hugs)))

heh dont worry mil doesnt get too far with me regards telling me how to look after K, this coming from a woman who dropped her first 2 as newborns and recently told me how she gave ds2 chocmilk from 8 weeks! yer right Im going to listen to your advice lol

[SammyG]

Cheeki, we have DTD twice since M came along. Poor DH wants lots of affection and I don't want a bar of him. I keep promising myself I will try harder but like you I'm TIRED! They just don't get it! I am sick of willies, big & small LOL.

My head cold is miraculously gone so it must have been sinus giving me the achy face and teeth, I don't care as long as it's gone!

V exciting, my girlfriend visiting from the UK told me she is off the pill FINALLY. We all thought she'd never get clucky.

[Hels*Bels]

Reece is very unsettled at the moment. He woke every couple of hours last night until 3am, then slept until 7am. I am feeling very stressed and tired at the moment. Today he has been crying alot and I don't know what to do with him half of the time.
I had to put him to bed earlier until DH got home because I was so over it and of course he screamed the place down. DH is now looking after him for a while to give me a break. I hope this phase passes soon, I want my happy placid baby back!

Also, I have put his basinette inside the cot to start getting him used to the new surroundings. He probably won't like it but I figured things can't get much worse than they already are :thumbsdown:

Sorry for the me post, just needed a bit of a vent.

[Flicka]

Hi,

Ellembee - what great advice regarding stretching feeds out!!!:thumbsup:
arachel2 - welcome
cheeki - big :hugs: to you sweetie. I agree it is hard and men just don't get it do they? I tried to explain to my DH that after having the kids touching me all day sometimes the last thing I want is for him to hug/kiss me as I just need some space. But sometimes I think it is important to make the effort. You know, 'take one for the boys' kind of thing. even if I don't feel like cuddles or kisses I try to make it up to him by telling him he is a great dad and a big help. You know men and their ego - just needs a boost every now and then!!
OMG Sammy - you are such a funny chick!!! I nearly fell off my chair laughing about willies!!
Hels - Hope Reece has settled and you got a break. Need to take a long hot shower to drown out the noise of crying while DH looks after him. That's what I do for a break anyway.

MIL's - Hmmmmnnn. Tough subject. Love mine lots but still have some 'issues'. When she visits she never helps out with cooking or cleaning or even bathing the kids. She came to visit when kelsey was 2 weeks old but didn't lift a finger to help - not even to empty the dishwasher or hang out a load of nappies!!! I mean, even my dad did the vacuuming for me when he came to visit after kelsey was born!!
PLUS MIL never rang when we found out about Kelsey having a hole in her heart (FIL told her). When DH finally said he was hurt she never rang she just brushed him off and told him it was nothing to worry about. NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT?????
Those of you with MIL issues (good or otherwise)....do you find that your DH's pander a bit to their mums? My DH is such a sook when it comes to his mum and won't stand up for himself.

I guess we have all had a MIL rant today.......

Flicka xxx

[dragonflyblu]

DH is back for a few nights before he goes back to work on Sunday.Clea really missed him, well i should say they missed each other. After a week of not being able to settle her for day sleeps DH picks her up this afternoon and says to her "oh look how tired you are" sits down, with her on his lap leaning against his chest and she happily goes to sleep! Then because he is jetlaged he went to bed early and once again I couldnt settle clea until 9.30. I een tried rocking her over the bed so she could see her dad, worked for awhile. Then she discovered a new sound and thought she was very clever and doing the sound, looking at me with a cheeky smile. How can they be so difficult one moment and so incredibly cute the next?

I am exhausted off to bed for me.

[Cordelia]

Lovely day for us today! I did all the work and went for our walk by 11am and then I didn't know what to do with myself. We actually got bored. Amazing...!

Re: Grandparents names - we have 2 Nannas... which i thought there would be an issue about but DH just said "oh well, 2 nanna's" so there's a Nanna and Pop and a Nanna and Pa. I think we'll end up calling them fat and skinny Nanna's behind their backs!!

MIL - you guys all know my woes about this. I can't stand talking on the phone to mum so I email her and don't hear for about a week from her when she calls and says "oh sorry I just got your email this morning" but then throughout the conversation makes it glaringly obvious she read it days ago... I know that's petty but WHY LIE...

She's also badgering about us opening a bank account so they can stick money into it for her. I'll have to research that up this week or so. The bankwest one looks pretty good... but we dont want to put money in it every month!! I know that sounds bad, but we'd prefer to put the money in our mortgage so we can provide more for her as she gets older.

I've been sleeping in the spare room bed for the last couple of nights to avoid DH's flu and I'm really liking it. I'd like to make it a permanent fixture! I brought it up with DH over dinner but he was far from impressed so I guess I'll have to drag my pillow and teddy back to our bed tonight. Darn! Last night I slept with Caitlin and we had a the best sleep...8:30pm til 9:30am.. neither of us woke once.. that's the biggest sleep I've had in 12 months!

have a good night everyone :)

[sugar n spice]

hels - i hope reece settles down for you soon.:hugs:

well ethan has croupe and sheldon has an ear infection, im sick so hopefully ash wont catch it:fingerscrossed:. he has done more rolling today and has been a happy little chap

[cate]

Gosh it's been ages!!! I didn't even read the whole thread it's been so long since I was on. It's prob only been a week but it just feels like forever.

Audrey had her needles yesterday and has been fine. She's become really chatty!!! I had my delux day at the hairdresser and she just sat there gabbering away to anyone that would listen!!! That and drool....there must be teeth coming because it's stepped up another notch....it's just everywhere!!!

I've been trying to get into some more serious exercise lately....and have put on weight!!!! I can't believe it......I've worked so hard that last few weeks .... must be muscle!

Hope everyone is well and all babies are being beautiful!

Brisbane mummies meeting next Weds!

[SammyG]

Just got back from clinic. M is growing so slowly! Still up there for length (90th) but putting on the minimum 100g per week so still on 50th for weight. He's finally cracked 6kg. Nurse was actually pretty good, said he looks good and as long as he's happy and sleeping well then everything is fine. I'm probably just over-reacting because I have a headache.

Mentioned to nurse that poos went from pumpkin soup colour to army green after Rotavirus vaccine and she said she's had similar feedback from other mum's & thanks for sharing so they can build-up their anecdotal (sp) results for other mums.

I'm off for a nana nap, much needed with this headache!

[Ellembee]

hi all

well G just screamed and screamed her head off for about 40 mins last night. a really hysterical scream. i have no idea what was wrong. it was horrendous - i called dh at work and he hopped in a cab home to give me some moral support.

cordelia - dh and i also came to the conclusion that for us, the best thing to do is put every spare cent on the mortgage. everyone's financial situation and financial priorities are different though.

mil - i love my mil, but she really does have some old fashioned ideas on babies. eg all babies should have an hour or two a day of good screaming as its good exercise. wtf? she has also decided one of her other grandchildren drinks too much milk and so when she looks after her, she gives her bottles of juice instead. Again, wtf??? - there is so much bad press these days about giving kids juice - where has she been!!! anyway, all things making me nervous about letting her look after G. it was DH's b'day the other day and she left me a message saying she was going to get him 2 gold class tickets to the movies and that she would look after G while we go. DH absolutely hates going to the movies - it was all about her getting G to herslef for a few hours. I called her back and told her DH definately does not want movie tickets. anyway, rant rant. how much easier would it be to marry an orphan!

hels - hope R is ok.

[Flicka]

Ellembee - My mum actually said something to me just after Kelsey was born about crying being good exercise for the lungs and I just told her she was living in the dark ages......

Both of the kids were little sweethearts today which made me feel like a total supermum :smiliedance: . Gotta be happy about having those days as they are few and far between. Tomorrow I will probably be tearing my hair out!!!

So quiet around here. Hope that means everyone was out having lunch or something lovely like that today.

Sammy - Hope your headache is gone and you got a rest this arvo.

Begrudgingly bought MIL a coffee mug with the kids photo on it for mothers day. She should have received it in the mail by now but as usual - no phone call to say thank you GGGRRR!

[Ellembee]

Hi Flicka - thats funny that your mum said the same thing about the screaming. My mil was a bit taken aback and embarressed when i told her that her notion of letting them scream for a few hours a day was a very outdated approach to parenting. I felt a bit guilty about being so harsh. She does mean well. Glad you had a lovely day. I did as well - we had a lovely girly shopping day. I bought myself a rather expensive dress that can double as a mothers day and 2nd wedding anniversary present. DH is being so lovely to me of late - i thought I may as well take advantage of it while I can lol!!!

[Hels*Bels]

We had a better day today and R went to bed with no dramas tonight so :fingerscrossed: for a good night.

I bought myself a new purse today, it has heaps of space for cards. That will be my Mother's Day pressie :D

We will spend sunday lunch with DH's family. I wonder if they will start on me about solids now that R is nearly 4 months old. Where has the time gone :eek:

Not much more to report here, this thread seems very quiet now, where has everyone gone?

Oh, BTW Tabby I found a chemist that sells the karicare AR for $16.95 and that's their normal price :p

[2s'nuff]

Hi-ya,

Not much happening here. After a really crappy night Tuesday, we had a much better night last night. TJ was asleep by 6.15 tonight though, which will probably mean a couple of night feeds tonight:sleeping: .

Hope everyone gets a good nights sleep,

Lisa

[Charis]

Where do the disappeared posts go!??

Just a hello all and great new avatars, well this page! Yes I know Hunter is now 17wks almost twice the age of this one!

Hugs to Aries for cold, to Freddie for extreme night wake phase, to Sugar for you and 2xsick boys, to Cordelias DH..and SammyG for headache, all so much harder than they were when we were not Mums!

I did have to giggle about the willies in your life Sam

Oh and was it Flicka (?) who wrote after Dragonflyblu about single/dual parenting? Some v true words, I think writing about the moral support/adult conversation etc that your DP is great for. I think that's why its so clear to me here..sometimes having H's Dad around those two things are often in the complete reverse :( Pity. Actually we hadn't seen him since Saturday and after hrs of arguing by txt he came over to spend time with me, after H asleep. First time properly making time for 'us' in 4months! I thought it was nice, sweet, first 'us' conversation and about our seperate weeks.. then H woke for his 'roll-over'. He went home. Left us in dark/quiet all good. Today I sent a 'thanks for last night, was really wonderful talking kind of message' Late today he sends a grumpy message about being 'shunned' and 'how he's never felt like we're a family'..(well we're not, and haven't seen him for 4days!)gosh, so wearing. They came during the whole night routine and feeding. Luckily I read them v late and didn't feel like I had to be engaged in a reply. Yup. It is so much harder with him than without him. Thats just one pretty normal day.

Sorry :ecomcity:

But besides was a great day here. An hour of H sleeping while I drove checking progress of jobs under construction. Remembered there is a cafe around the corner open in the day, so walked there with H looking at trees/parrots/flowers a POLICE HORSE, v unusual and a bit scary for Hunter..Nana here to play with him (while I worked) and made me lunch :smiliedance: A longish arvo sleep for him (after a struggle to sleep) and a nice sunset riverside walk where he fell asleep in the running pram, woohoo!

But most importantly worked out I keep missing his tired signs at home during the day and he gets really over-tired really fast. The igloo in the cot is only part of the solution. Poor bubby. Will see how it goes tomorrow. Better get some sleep, was waiting for him to wake for his new 'roll-over' feed. Not a "new" I am all that happy about.

But they are so gorgeously lovely wonderful aren't they (when their little horns have receeded!) x

Bris_Mummys birthday Friday!!!!!happybirthday you super Chick!!!!! x

[aries_moon]

morning to all...........

we're going alright here, still have the 1am wake for a feed. Stupid me tried to settle him back down without a feed when he woke, then as I woke up a bit remembered that oh ya he is actually hungry as he does not wake for the dream feed!! am getting sooooo frustrated, just wish we could get this eating/ sleeping business sorted. Makes me wish I could just throw in the towel and formula feed him. but alas still won't take a bottle, and I reckon i'm still too cheap to start buying formula :p

Glad to hear you've had a better night HELS and MOUSEBROWN.........

Ya this thread does seem quiet, what ever happened to BUBSONE and TBEAR?? we were all overdue together, then they like vanished after bubs born???COME BACK PEOPLE!!!

:hugs: To the single mummies and mummies that are on their own most the time........ strong women, you do a great job!! i would be at a total loss........so hats off to ya! CHARIS you definitely don't want anyone to make things harder, good on ya for knowing you are better off without him. sorry you have to put up with that childish cr*p though :hugs: oh and btw, feelin better thanx (no phone credit oops) sorry to have missed your last class, catch up soon?

gonna just take it easy today as X got v unsettled yesterday from being out and about. lucky daddy gets to have a nice work dinner and ****up tonite, so all on me own tonite, think i'll make a date with a big fat pizza and eat it all lol! anyhoo, might be back later, happy fridays to all!

[bossoflatch]

haven;t been on here for the last few days... bubs has been really unsettled and waking during the night every 2-3 hours for a feed... :eek: i know they say they have a growth spurt but i just got back from the clinic nurse and she has lost 300 grams instead of gaining 300 grams....

i have posted under the general health section if you wanna read - a bit of a bore but i really don't know what to be doing anymore.....

oh, is there brisbane mums that have bubs on soy.... ??

[Tabby]

boss: Is it the same scales usually weighed on? Because going by your post other it sounds like shes feeding fine and getting topups..so how the weight loss? rather puzzling..
Is she on anything for the reflux now?

[Tabby]

Morning all,

Charis: Oh yes, makes things much harder if miss the sleepy signs here too. Missed it this morning as was happily buzzing rnd feeding the birds/dogs and she was quite happy watching in the pram, but went past the "OI Im ready for bed" lol So had a bit of a struggle to get to go down for nap just then.
BUT her teeth are certainly giving her a hard time still. out goes the dummy and in goes the fingers so she can bite down on them.:eek:
Bonjela works most the time luckily.

aries: Hope you have a nice relaxing day, the both of you! The pizza tonight sounds like a great plan :thumbsup:
mmm pizza... now youve done it! :laughing:

Mouse/hels: Hope yous got a good sleep?

Ellembee: Sounds lovely. mothers day and anniversary pressie! whens anniversary?

Not holding my breath for much if anything re: dp, finances are still too tight and - a few days pay this week due to things at work happening and sent home.
ah well am sure my boys will make sure its a good one for me
BUT will be a great day none the less, a first for dd AND my brother who I havnt seen for 3 yrs is coming!!! Things were made up at nans funeral between him and mum/dad so I invited him here and he said yes. Cant wait to see him again!
( somehow I got chucked out of his life as well when they had their fight...)
So it will be his first meeting with Katie...

Hope those with unsettled bubs are getting better xxx :hugs:

[bossoflatch]

tabby - they are the same scales each time i get her weighed except on the drs - is are about 300 grams under the clinic scales- so i always make suer that i get her weighed every f/n on the clinic scales and now she weight 5.1 on their and on monday last week she weigh 5.1 on the drs scales and as i said there is about 300 grams difference - so now on his scales she would weigh in at about 4.8 kilos:eek:

she is having about 400 mls comping in total after feeds and about 7-8 b/f a day.... i really don't know what to do - her pead is not in the office until about 1 today - and i am just so concerned going into the weekend and her loosing more wieght - she feeds really well on the breast.. i think - she gets a good let down and always comes off happy...:confused:

[Tabby]

AM wondering, whoever's scales were out that 300 could have been fixed? Seems odd its the 300 shes lost is same as the 300 difference? Does that make sense at all!
Sure sounds like shes getting enough, as you said shes coming off happy, am sure shed let you know otherwise same as Katie does bottle if try take away before shes had enough lol
Sorry am probably no help whatsoever! Going to the paed today? surely if you explain reasons theyll see you today?
Hope you get things sorted xxxx

[Ellembee]

Hi Tabby - our anniversary is in a few weeks. DH has been super nice as he has been v v stressed about a work matter - which means he has been lying awake all night for the last couple of nights and wanting to talk through it with me. Unfortunately these nights coincided with G's first big massive sleeps - from 8pm - 4am (I usually get up at 1 and 4). So, would have been the first time in 4 months I would have had a decent sleep and he feels v guilty/grateful about that. oh well! as I said to him - I am used to lack of sleep now!!! anyway, enough about me - very exciting about your brother coming for a visit after all this time and meeting Katie!!!!!

[Tabby]

Maybe G knows yous needed some "us" time.:thumbsup:
Hope dh's works stress eases real soon for him.

Yes agree with the lack of sleep, its the first thing ppl say to me when told am ttc no4 already and my reply, well what difference will 2 make? May as well get those sleepless times out of the way sooner rather than have another later and have go through all over again. Ide rather keep going now and look forward to them later on.

Dp is on way home early again, love this job, paid for the day but sent home as didnt want to go to lunch and a movie with others to celebrate end of training.
better go...

[Flicka]

Wow Bossoflatch - I am totally stumped. That losing weight thing is really odd isn't it? I mean if she is eating, wetting nappies, active and generally happy then you'd think she wouldn't lose weight. I agree with ringing paed - let us know how you go. As Tabby said - any chance the scales have been fixed or changed? Wish I had some better advice for you - but we're here to listen....last minute thought - when DS was 5 months he went a couple of weeks without putting any weight on and that is when I started solids.
Charis - MEN!!!! Doesn't he know not to cause probs when you are b/feeding with his text messages. We have rules in our house - no "discussions" while I am feeding. You are doing such a great job with Hunter - don't let ex-DP make you feel bad. You are a total modern supermum - career, baby, social life, fitness.

Sorry, after that can't remember what anyone else said.....old age kicking in here!

We had kelsey's appointment with the cardiologist today. We had to wait so long (about 2 hours) and have another echo done on her heart. Short version is that she is FINE. She still has a hole but there seems to be tissue building up around the edges so the hope is it will close over by itself in the next few years. Just have to periodically have it checked by the paed. I was so happy when we walked out I burst into tears...silly really but such a relief.

[Cat13]

Well I was going to try and stay of BH while my parents were visiting but dad's having a grandpa nap and mum is checking on my washing. Mum is obsessed with washing. Me, it goes in the machine. Machine does it's thing and then I take it out and hang it on the line. Sometime later in the day when I asssume it should all be dry, I go out and bring it in. But not my mum. She checks the wash a few times while it's going to see how soapy the water is and check for any airpockets in the clothes. Then once it is hung she goes outside constantly to reposition stuff so it dries 'evenly' and to see if any items are dry so they can be brought inside early :confused: . And then she wonders why she has no spare time. She overcomplicates every task in this way & I could go on and on about her quirks but you'd probably think I was making them up.

Thanks to Tabby & Flicka & others for sympathy over our unsettled nights with C. Day sleeps have been a bit of a struggle too but not going to worry too much about it until after my parents have left. DH has also been away for 2 nights which probably hasn't helped.

Flicka, my parents have finally decided what they want to be called although not yet set in stone. No precedent as C is 1st grandchild. Mum will be Nanna & Dad will be Grandpa Wolf (he is lucky enough to have the unusual name of Wolfgang as his first name - was always a hit at my Bday parties when we'd play 'what's the time Mr Wolf! :D )

No more rolling for C since his first 2 attempts but he is now rolling from his back to his side. He actually ends up twisted half on his front (legs) half on his side (head & arms) which looks terribly awkward & uncomfortable but he seems to like it.

Charis, absolutely no chance of getting C down at first tired signs with his grandparents here. By the way, mind if I try and shake some sense into H's dad for you?!

Bossoflatch, I agree with Tabby that it sounds fishy about the 300g weightloss being same as the scale difference. You know your bub - had you suspected any weightloss before you saw the scale reading?

Ellembee, hope G has some more big sleeps for you. At least your DH appreciates your support, makes the world of difference. Hope his work worries are over soon.

Wishes for speedy recoveries for all those under the weather. I'm finally feeling almost 100% and everythig seems soooo much easier.

My posts always end up sooooooooooooo long :o . I'm surprised anyone ever makes their way through them. And I'm sure I still haven't replied to everything I planned to. Should try to post more often & shorter instead of saving it all up!

[Cat13]

Flicka, so glad to hear Kelsey's results were good. What a relief for you!

[2s'nuff]

:smiliedance: Great news Flicka about K's heart.
:hugs: bossoflatch, hope answers start to come soon. Do you feel bub has lost weight (in clothes fit etc)?
Aries...stick with the (*)(*)'s if you can. Money starts flying out the window the moment you start formula.
Charis...tell X that you don't monitor your phone continually, you've got much better things to do with your time.

Mothers Day....I'm not expecting anything. DD1 made a card at daycare and that will be about the extent of it. DH is away, might get a phone call if he remembers. Hope all you first timers have a great day and get spoilt by your partners.

Got a reasonable nights sleep last night. TJ woke at 12, then 5.30 for feeds. She had a full bottle (160ml) at each. Can't wait until she gets the hang of solids as she's obviously hungry when she wakes, so theres no hope of resettling her. I was that tired that it seemed no time passed between the wake up calls.

Spoke to my sister yesterday. She's booked in for a CS on Jun 7 (in Tassie). I know how she feels now (she hasn't seen TJ yet), I'm excited about bub's arrival, but sad that we won't get to have a cuddle.

Happy Fridays to everyone,
Lisa

[2s'nuff]

Cat...LOL at your mums washing antics. My mum is a washing worrier too. She can't stand that it takes two hours for my front loader to complete a wash. I just put it on first thing in the morning (often got a load going before 7) and remember it sometime later in the day. And if things aren't quite dry, thats what the dryers for:D .

[aries_moon]

just wanted to say FLICKA, am so relieved for you that things look good for kelsey's heart!! :smiliedance: all the best

oh and CAT, huge lol about your mum and the washing!! Mine's so the same, everything has a certain way to be done etc; ha ha :laughing:

[cate]

Oh boy.....I am admire anyone who has a "screamer" and has put up with it. Audrey has been a right pain in the behind the last two days....just grizzly and whingy whenever I go 2 feet away.....argh! It's driving me insane! At least she is still sleeping through....if I lost that now I don't know what I would do!

I ran into a friend/work aquaintence (sp) the other day who dropped off the face of the earth after she had her baby....we just bumped into each other at Big W!! Really nice so we sat and had coffee and caught up....she told me the whole saga of why she has just disappeared. Her DH left her when the baby was 3 weeks old!!! I just could not believe this horrific story and went home feeling so down, confused and happy all at once. I have such respect for those of you doing it on your own...I don't know how I would have managed "those times" without someone. It made me appreciate just how much my DH did do and is doing now (even though I complain about him not doing enough). I was also really impressed with the way the department of health coordinated her care once this all happened. They had social workers visiting her every couple of days and a midwife on the phone every day, along with all the support to get her sorted financially.

Sorry about the big blurb but it really brought home to me how hard some people are doing it....and how lucky I am.

Now I've got that off my chest I'll go and see if I can find that bonjela I bought because surely all this crankiness is to do with teeth!!!

[Ellembee]

yaaaay flicka about Kelsey. That is such good news !!!! I too burst into tears when am relieved about something.

Cat - that really is funny about your mum and the washing. what a waste of time!!! I didn't even know you could get air pockets in washing machines, let alone see them or know that they would affect the wash??? I wonder now that we are mums we are going to turn mad like that? i must admit, sometimes i do or say things that remind me of mum - and think "oh no - its true - you do turn into your mother!!!!

Had a snooze with G on the couch this arvo - whenever I do this, she sleeps much longer but wakes up so cranky. Maybe she has a sore neck from being snuggled up in the crook of my arm. Who knows???? They are funny things really aren't they.

Boss - hope you get the weight issue sorted. does seem a mystery.

Charis - H's dad does seem like a bit of a child. But really, I think all men are to some extent.

I got stood up by a friend today who was meant to be coming over for morning tea. Am a bit miffed as my MIL wanted to come over this morning to do some gardening for me and spend time with G and I told her she couldn't as I had plans. I am so annoyed - as it was nice that MIL decided to make the effort to come over here.

[bossoflatch]

flicka - great news!!!:thumbsup:

thanks guys - i did feel as though bubs wasn't putting weight on - but i didn't even think about her loosing weight ... i think the scales are right ... but i think what has happened is not so much now - but a little over a week ago she wasn't feeding right and i thought something was wrong - she went thru only 3 clothes nappies during the day and they weren't really wet they were just moist... iykwim!!! i just kept putting her on the breast but she wasn't staying on long....

so what i think has happened is that she may of lost weight over that weekend and now she is slowly catching up..any how the pead rang and we are going in on monday for a review.. there goes more $$$ - i shouldn't complain -she is my bubs and i wouldn't not pay but going private is starting to cost a small fortune...

i have started giving her more of her special formula now... (she is on the prescription formula for cows milk allergy... ) so today i boobie feed her until she stops ... and then about 20mins later i am giving her about 90 mls of formula as a top up.... i also notice that she is really acidic again..so i have started her on the reflux medication ... :fingerscrossed: that should help settle her.... i just wonder whether i was starving her ... i mean i read the other story in the current affair section about the parents starving their baby boy on a vegan diet..and him screaming ... i hate to think that my bubs was screaming coz she was hungry ..the funny thing is though - i really don't think that was it ...she always comes of the boob happy and talking... i am sure she wouldn't be like that if she was'nt getting enough... would she??? although all day today i have been giving her big top ups and she has gone to sleep without screaming...

how long are bubs that are breastfeeding on for anyway???

[Tabby]

Flicka! WONDERFUL NEWS :smiliedance:
Heres hoping it closes over all by itself in time.

Cat: Yep probably best to not stress too much over routine till visitors gone yes. Hope things settle right back how they were pretty quickly.
Katie hasnt rolled much either since the first few times..She also gets that twisted thing happening though lol.

Charis: received your barcode. BIG thanks again! xx

Cate: how sad your friend, what an ******* leavn her when bubs only 3 weeks of age!
Obviously better off without him then if the type to do that? Hope shes doing well.

[sugar n spice]

hey all well im still really sick and now dh is aswell. really need to be well for tomorrow as i have my stats test as previously mentioned.

:hugs: to the mums with unsettled bubs ash was a little unsettled last night but not too bad.

got invited to my cousins wedding today but its next wk. what such short notice.

well hope you all have a good wkend.

[victoria75]

Flicka: So happy to hear that it looks like everything is going to be fantastic. I completely understand why you would burst into tears - such a relief. What more could you ask for as a Mothers Day present.:smiliedance:

Bossoflatch - Just a question TMI sorry - but is she still using her bowels regularly? I'll explain once I have the answer. If all is still the same no point me going into it all.

Cate: Hugs to your friend. Its amazing what you hear happens when people have babies. They really do completely make or break a relationship in my opinion.

Back later.

[aries_moon]

good luck for your test tomorrow sugar! :fingerscrossed: :D

[Hels*Bels]

Had a better night, R only woke once but I was awake from 4am to 6am and then R woke for his feed as I was about to go back to sleep, so I feel quite tired today.

I went to the ABA Mother's Play day in the city today, it was a bit disappointing but I met up with some BH mums which was nice (as always). It's hard to do alot though as there's always a bub that needs to be fed or changed lol.

Tomorrow is my bookwork day and housework. The weather is meant to be nice so I might try to fit in some gardening too.

Sorry no personals today. If I don't get back on before sunday, have a great Mother's Day everyone :)

[Flicka]

Thanks for all of the well wishes about Kelsey. It is so nice to know you all care so much.

Cat - LOL about your mum and the washing. So funny sounds like my MIL a bit. Not my mum though - when we were kids she would look at the dirty dishes and the washing/ironing and say to us "kids, will I do the housework or should we go to the beach?" and of course we went to the beach. Don't know when she found the time to do the housework - must have done it when we were in bed!!

Bossoflatch - Sounds to me like you are doing everything right. Kelsey normally only feeds for about 5-7 mins each side each feed. Sometimes she is even quicker. I agree that if she was hungry she would be letting you know.

Kids have gone to bed and DH is at work. Really should do some housework:thumbsdown: .

Kelsey still isn't rolling but she does get herself onto her side and is dragging herself around her cot.

Happy Mothers Day for Sunday. Hope you all get spoilt rotten (especially you first timers). I got a card and a little present that DS made at daycare.

[Cat13]

Glad I'm not the only one who finds my mum's washing antics a bit bizarre. When I visit her she'll call me into the laundry to look at the water draining out of the machine and ask how it compares to when I do a wash. Needless to say I have no idea!

I'll admit I'm in some ways like my mum but only the good bits! She is literally the only person I lose my patience with. Ok and maybe my sister who is like my mum in alot of the not so good ways......

Flicka, was just looking at your avatar and I think Kels & Cameron have the same play gym. C nearly trashed his tonight. He gets frustrated that he can't get the toys off into his mouth and kicks the hell out of it. :devil6:

Not holding out for a Mother's Day present here but have been hinting for chocolates. I'm very easy to please!

[bossoflatch]

victoria75 - she only moves her bowes once every say 36 hours .... she doesn't go everyday but she goes maybe 2 times over three days... so not quite every second day...

she was the normal mustard breast feed dirty nappy - now she is on the special formula she is really pasty and very dark green... tmi sorry!!!

flicka - thanks for the bump!!! so your bubs only feeds for about the same time as my bubs - sometimes she is done in about 3-5 mins a side - but generally she takes about 15mins for both sides - so maybe 5-8 mins each side and tonight i feed her and she was done in 10 mins... i still had milk i could hand express (sorry ladies agai tmi!!) but she didn't want anymore... so i waited and bathed her and then tried her on a 120 ml bottle she was really struggling when she got to 60mls..... she is now in bed asleep.... i really don't think she is hungry .... she is just too happy after the feed... it is inbetween the feeds that she is really unsettled... so i decided to start her on losec again today... concidering i haven't seen the pead .. he did say to start it again if needed but i really don't know what i should be doing .. idont want her to be loosing any more weight... she is back down to about 5 kilos and she is almost 4 months old :eek:
that makes her on the 10 percentile and when she was born she was 75 percentile...

thanks everyone for your concern though:thumbsup:

[Tabby]

Morning!

cheeki: :hugs: for the twins jabs, hope they're ok today.
Im the same Mothers day, long as I get a kiss and hug from the boys and maybe brekkie if im lucky Im happy. Would be nice for DP to get me something though just to show he appreciates all I do as a Mum for his dd. Just a chocky would be nice. After all hes still got the no flowers at birth to make up for :laughing:.

bossoflatch: :fingerscrossed: Mondays app sees things sorted out. let us know how it goes. :D

loving the new avatars, Aries that look on X's face is hilarious, got to love the expressions they have now, I uploaded one on the pics section, Katies angry face lol.

Well the sore throat I had a few days ago has turned into a full blown bloody head cold!!! and last night Katie got it! She was trying to snuffle and sniff her way rnd the dummy but in the end she just spat it and was fine and finally went to sleep. This morning shes still happy but has the temp and watery eyes..poor bubba
I havnt had a cold/flu in about 5 years! The down fall of DP working in a huge call centre, all the germs to float rnd and bring home..

Well not much happening here today, cleanup for tomorrow is about all, that way if all done today I can sit back and relax tomorrow.
Getting rather excited to see my brother again!!!
Hes never met DP or Katie so should be a great day for all I hope, hes always loved little girls ( 6 girls of his own and 1 boy ) and I know Katie is going to charm him as she does everyone.

Oh and Katies eyes! I still cant work out what color they are, some days they're hazel and others they're blue!..what the..??
Anyone else get that?

My life has changed SO much since DP came into it, and all for the better! Im so lucky to have him.
Ive never been more happy than I am right now and its all thanks to him.

[jacstar31]

good morning all!!
been a while since I posted on here....sorry about that!
Tabby - hope that you and Katie feel better really quickly :hugs:
Cheeki - hope the twins are ok after needles and hope that you had a great sleep with your mum there to help
Cat - :fingerscrossed: for your chocs!
Flicka - fantastic news - what a relief!
Sugar - :fingerscrossed: for your test and hope that you & your fam all get better quick

well Geoffrey still is waking at night, but getting much better, last night fed him at 11pm b4 i went to bed and then he woke up at 4.45am, so pretty good really, quick feed and back to bed till 8.15am.
I am really enjoying him and looking forward to each day with him.

sending :sleeping:to all who need it xx

[tired*mummy]

Hi Everyone

Happy mothers day for everyone tomorrow.

DD1 & 2 gave me their presents today as DH is working today & tomorrow. They got me a portable DVD player. Will be good for the car when the kids are driving me insane and also will be good when DH is watching footy on one TV and DD's are watching movies on the other tv/dvd player. Least i can take it too bed with me & be comfortable. So was very happy with that. Also got me some new cd's/dvds as i love my music & movies.

Sierra has been pretty good. Starting to wake up again in the middle of the night. Growth spurt maybe... not too sure. Shes trying really hard to roll from her back to her tummy now. Almost there, dont think it will be long.

Well hope eveyone has a great weekend. Sorry no personals... have too much to do today so could only post a quickie lol
:wave:

[victoria75]

Tabby: I thinks its wonderful that you are in such a good place at the moment. Hope all goes well with your big catch up tomorrow.

Cheeki: LOL at the tummy time. Hope a good nights sleep is coming for you as well.

Us: DH has just got home from work and already I am ready to kill him. He just doesnt seem to get that having 3 children for 6 days straight with no help makes me a litle grumpy. Our middle one hasnt even laid eyes on him for 3 days until now. Every morning he gets up and says DADA - I have to deal with the tears when he realises he isnt here. Sorry. I just needed to vent a little. Plus I asked him if he had a Mothers Day card for me (thats all I want) and he says Ohhh!!! Is it Ok if I get the kids to make one. That would be fine but its 6.00 and they have to bath and then still be in bed at 7.00. God knows how he is going to manage that one.!!! MEN. And dont get me started on my MIL who is ruining MY mothers Day. Gee I am miss negative tonight. :gloomy: Rant over. Sorry

Anyway to everyone else - especially the first time mummies.

HAPPY MOTHERS DAY. I hope its exactly what you want.

Take care all.

[Flicka]

Hi :wave:

Cat - Some play gym hey? I got it for DS before he was born but he hated being on his back. Kels loves though and she also get frustrated about trying to get the toys off and in her mouth. Hope you get some choccie tomorrow!

Bossoflatch - I am by no means an expert but i think it is normal to still have plenty of milk even after a big feed. Even though I feel 'empty' after a feed, I am still able to hand express. I think as bubs drinks you just continually replenish so you will never be totally dry. Sounds like you are doing everything you can and she certainly sounds content. I don't think she would sleep if she was hungry.

Tabby - Not sure about the eye colour. I'm not that great at genes but think you have to look at yours and your parents eye colour to find the dominant colour (even tho brown is more dominant) IYKWIM. For example I have blue but DH has brown. Out of our parents 3 have blue and only 1 has brown. So blue is dominant for us and both of the kids have blue eyes. I am probably not scientifically correct in what I have said but it might help you work out what colour they will end up.
Hope you have a lovely mothers day and get those flowers you deserve!

Victoria - Grrrrr don't get me started on blardy men! Love mine to death but have the right to complain. He comes home on days off and goes "i'm so tired". I tried to explain that his days off are actually not days off to relax - going to work is his break from the kids and when he comes home I need one!!

Well, DH took DS to the football tonight and my plan is a long hot bath with a good book!!!

Happy Mothers Day!!! Special :hugs: to you single mums as you do an even tougher job than me!!!

[Flicka]

Hey Bossoflatch - a couple of good responses on your losing weight thread. Just had a look in my breastfeeding book about weight loss and slow weight gain. It says that you should look at bubs development overall:

"Increases in length, head and chest circumference are also signs of growth. Good skin tone also indicates baby is getting enough to eat".

I know you have probably been over this a hundred times but I had another thought. have you tried 'switch nursing'? I do it when Kelsey is unsettled at the breast. Once bub's sucking starts to slow down on one breast, give them the other side, wait for her to slow down again and then switch breasts again. You can do this a few times during one feed and I do it fairly often.

Once again, i am probably covering old ground here and you have probably mentioned it before but is she sleeping all night? If so, could you set you alarm and get her up for a feed during the night? Even if you did this for a few tired weeks, it might just boost her weight gain.

Sorry if I am being intrusive but I have just been thinking about you lots and brainstorming for sloutions.

[Cordelia]

Happy Mother's Day for tomorrow everyone!!

I hope we can all get good night's sleep and brekky in bed in the morning! I'm going to work at expressing some bottles so I can stay in bed! DH and my sister have been organising a big family picnic at Lake Leschanaultia tomorrow so I hope the rain stays away and DH brought something HUGE wrapped in a blanket from the shops before so I'm very curious!

Caitlin has been fabulous since Thursday! DREAM baby... I hope that all the fussing and rough patches pass for everyone else as well! Maybe it's just the 4 month thing....

Oh I just remembered that Caitlin is 20 weeks today! All the mum's at mum's group seem to count months in 4 week lots so I'm saying "5 MONTHS!" today. She's such a big girl now.

Eye colour - caitlin changes between blue (DH's) and hazel (mine). I'm not an expert at genetics but you have 2 genes for eye colour and you give one to your child. So Flicka you must have 2 blue genes and your DH must have a brown and a blue. So if he gives a blue (being the least dominant) then the kid has blue but if he gives the brown then the kid will have brown. I think. Confusing.

needles - good luck for those of you who have them coming up! Caitlin had no reaction to these ones so hopefully yuo're all the same.

Better get dinner dished up - french beef stew YUM.. I can't believe I had the time to make it! Things are looking up!

[Cat13]

Hi Flicka (& any other Townsville mummies who may read this thread but not post).

Just a link to an invite I posted in the Nth Qld parents thread to see if anyone would be interested in attending a Townsville Bubhub Biggest Morning Tea.

http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=91010

Way out of my comfort zone putting the suggestion out there but thought it could be fun to get involved in this Cancer Council fundraiser and if I limited invites to people I actually know up here it would be a very small affair!

PS - have never put a link in a post before so apologies if it doesn't work!

HAPPY MOTHERS DAY TO EVERONE FOR TOMORROW!!

[sugar n spice]

happy mothers day to all for tomorrow.

I had my stats test today and it was easier then the mock test we have been doing at home. :fingerscrossed: I get a good enough result.

im slowly getting over my cold but dh is so sick now and he isnt the best of patients:rolleyes:

[finalcountdown!]

Hey all...
I was MIA for a while...just got too busy and couldnt seem to keep up with the thread!!
But am back!!
Jett is 17 weeks now, and going great!! Is such a happy, placid, content little fella, always smiling, very rarely cries!! (opposite to DD1!!)
He is a BIG boy, chubby bubba, weighs around the 9kilo mark, probably closer to 10, due to have him weighed next week!!

Had a few dramas with the b/f and getting him onto formula when he was a few weeks old, but once over that we havent looked back!! He was sleeping through for a while there but is waking around 2am for a feed atm. Has it and goes straight back to sleep till around 6am

He goes to sleep totally on his own, no rocking, patting etc...FANTASTIC!!!
Started him on rice cereal with pears last week, he loves it. Tried him on pumpkin tonite...not tooooo keen !!!

He loves his Jolly jumper and will spend up to an hour giggling and bouncing around in there!!

wow, good luck for those of you ttc!! I thought about having number 3 but am worried that i wont get a bubba as easy as Jett!! We werent using any protection for first few weeks (Jett was IVF), but then a friend of mine who tried for 3 years and fell with clomid fell pregnant natrually when her DS was only 18 weeks!! The reality of that scared me ...so now we are using protection!! haha!!

Anyway, just wanted to touch base, i had a quick browse over thread, a few familiar names still here!!!
will endevour to up date avatar now!!
By the way....is anyone else using avent bottles, and if so what teat number??

[2s'nuff]

Happy Mothers Day :party: for tomorrow

Aries...love the new avatar pic
Sugar...hope you start to feel better soon and that all went well with your test
Tabby...DD1's eye colour still changes. They alternate between blue, green and grey. Hope you start to feel better soon
Victoria...:hugs: Men just don't get it. I'm 110% sure DH didn't leave anything for DD1 to give to me (she's not let anything slip, which would be very hard for a 3yo). Yet if I were to forget about Faters Day he'd sulk for weeks.

Two tried girlies here tonight, three if you include me. Both girls in bed and asleep by 7. I don't know if I'll be far behind them tonight as I had a crappy night last night and was up at 5.45 this morning.

Went to an Enjo party this afternoon and did my usual thing and ordered more than I should have:shame: . Will have to hide the credit card bill, and the cloths from DH for a while. Will bring a new one out every so often.

Have a great day tomorrow,
Lisa

[2s'nuff]

Finalcountdown...we use Avent bottles. Would be on size three. I've just put some extra holes in the size 2 teats (no more monsters for me). If you find Jett is taking lots longer to feed and/or getting frustrated while feeding, change teats for a few feeds. It will soon be obvious if it's too much for him.

[finalcountdown!]

Hi mouse brown
thanks for that. Yeh Jett is still on 2 but i think he could do with next size up. I have only got those variable teats which have a one two and three. But i find that all three of these (regardless of which way you hold it) pour out sooo fast and he tends to choke a bit!!
Maybe i will just do as you have and put a couple of extra holes in the number 2!

[Tabby]

Just a quick one, have been suffering all day this head cold! The throat is killing me and dizzy spells as well from it, mil called in and got me some cold/flu tablets which have helped and some nurofen for babies for Katie. Poor thing, she keeps grabbing the side of her head, am sure a headache or ear ache from it but still she manages to laugh and goo gah through it all bless her. Thanks everyone for the get well wishes xxx

I agree the vari-flow teats and on the one line are way too fast here as well, Even with AR thickened formula!
We are still on no1 avent, I just put the pointed end of a really thin knife in the hole (barely in at all really ) to make it just right for Katie and AR. Cost WAY too much to not get the most use out of anyway.

Happy Mothers Day for tomorrow EVERYONE!
Hope you all have a lovely day, I know I will xxxx

Good sleep vibes to all

[Tabby]

Tabby - hope all goes well with your brother i can just feel the vibes that u are very excited about this meet up again and DP n brother get along and i bet ur brother will adore Katie such as much as we do on here ...


Thanks Cheeki xxx! Am very excited yes!

Good morning all and Happy Mothers Day!!!!! hope your getting sleep-ins! None here for me...ah well.
My boy stayed over at the eldest's house last night and will be back later this morning. So nothing exciting here as yet, will be good later though.
My cold is a bit better thank goodness and Katie is no worse.

[Hels*Bels]

I hope everyone is having a nice Mother's Day so far and have been pampered eg brekky in bed and a sleep in?!

Didn't happen here, but it was my choice to have a sleep in yesterday instead. But I did get 2 lovely cards from DH and DS :p

Well, we finally did it! Check out the photo;

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Reece/Cot.jpg

He was a bit unsettled until 1.30am, then he finally slept until 8am :smiliedance: I put him in a sleeping bag too. First time in ages that I was up before him, already making brekky and getting his milk ready.

Anyhoo, better go as we are going out for lunch. R is already fed, bathed, dressed and taking a nap... what an organised mummy I am!! :laughing:

Have a great day everyone :D

[bossoflatch]

flicka- thanks heaps for all your suggestions. you are not being instrusive ,, just very thoughtful..i will go and check out the other thread of mine:thumbsup:

she hasn't been sleeping thru the night anymore (well she did the night before last from 8pm to 5.30am but last night she woke for a feed,,, and when she does wake i feed her about 3 times during the night...

i did shift last night and she woke 3 times for hubby... she had heaps of breast feeds and the top up formula which the dr suggested until we see the pead on monday..

thanks for the suggestions on swapping sides continuiuosly.(sp?) i do swap her about 3 -4 times during the feed but she just gets really fussy or tired ....

thanks everyone for all your help and HAPPY MOTHERS DAY to all you beautiful mummies...

take care

leisa

[wild at heart]

Hi everyone.. happy Mother's day!

Pretty quiet day but alexander (with help from dh!) bought me a deluxe manicure pedicure and facial. I had one done when I was 37 weeks pregnant and it was great!

I too went to an Enjo party y'day and bought two cloths and actually booked a demo- she'll have a hard task trying to clean my bathroom screen!

Alexander is still not sleeping through night. He goes to bed at around 6ish and wakes up around 1ish then again at around 4 or 5 then again at around 8ish. I wish he would just do what he was doing for a while which was wake up around 3am then sleep until 7:30am!

Cordelia- you seem to have Caitlin sorted- any suggestions on what you did to help he get to sleep through night..?How did you go with getting rid of the dummy. Midwife said that need to get rid of dummy at 4months due to it becoming a sleep association..?! We still have ours but I would much prefer him to sleep without it..

I heard people say before that waking up during night may be due to hunger? How often are bf mother's feeding their babies?

Alexander will be 17wks tomorrow and is still feeidng three hourly all through the day. He often starts getting whingey about 20 mons before feed. I think I have enough milk and have been taking fenugreek which has boosted my milk supply even more, so don't know how he could be soo hungry...?

[Ellembee]

Hi everyone. Happy Mothers Day.

I have had a lovely day - breaky in bed then lunch out. In addition to the dress I bought the other day, I was surprised with a beautiful hair clip, foot scrub and some lovely stationery.

Tabby - I hope you and Katie are feeling better and that you had a great day with your brother and family.

Wild at Heart - G seems to feed exactly the same as your little one. She is almost 16 weeks. It doesn't bother me as she goes back to sleep straight away. I have tried and tried to stretch her out longer - but have given up, and only stretch for half an hour at the most (like your little one - she seems to want to feed at the 2.5 hour mark and I can usually manage to distract for half an hour). Whats the point in having a crying hungry baby? I have accepted that this will be the way she will be until I wean her and start her on solids at 6 months. I wouldn't compare yourself to others, and I really don't think there are an "tricks" for the sleep through. Every baby is different.

[Tabby]

Hi all,

Thanks Ellembee,
Katies gotten worse, for only the 3rd time since born she cried the full on heart breaking cry ( other 2 times was jabs ), I felt so bad but nothing helped! She was ever so tired but obviously the sore throat/headache of this cold had hit her harder and even the nurofen wouldnt calm her, eventually she went to sleep in my arms. 2 hrs ago and still asleep now in my bed. Her temps up too. Not going be a good night.
Not good when still suffering myself thats for sure.
Today was great though, was good to see my brother again and more plans for future catch ups!

wild at heart. Katie is ff but still on 3 hrly during the day, has been for ages. Am sure there were others too so not unusual 3 hrly day feeds bf or ff this age.

Hels: YAY for the cot move!

Oh and guess what?? DP got me a lovely card from Katie! Its just beautiful.
Have my gift from ds1 arriving Tuesday ( avon purchase ).

Hope everyone had a lovely day!

[Cordelia]

Hope everyone had a lovely day :) Mine was - altho DH didn't get up at 6am for me - I knew he'd pike!

Re: Sleeping thru the night. Firstly I feed her at 5, 7 and then top up at 8 leading up to sleep at 8:30-9pm. But what was the real "aha" solution was that we figured out she was cold and she's been sleeping through.. last night i didn't put her sleeping bag on and voila - she awoke. She really does need to be ridiculously warm - she wears (sorry if i wrote thsi before) singlet, all in one, sleeping bag, wrap, flannel sheets, woolen blanket doubled over, polo fleece blanket. Seems to work for us.

Dummy: We tried doing it cold turkey but itw as painful.. so she only ever has it when she goes to sleep and i take it out once she's asleep.. i guess the next step is to not use it in the day and then for the big night sleep. I find it really hard to put her to sleep without it - it's crying for an hour, i give up and stick it in and then she's asleep within 2 minutes. When I'm able to stop wrapping her (that's another habit I can't break) maybe she'l be able to suck her thumb (probably another habit i don't want to START!)

I never thought of all this when I was pregnant! :P

[Lukeandmattsmum]

HAPPY MOTHERS DAY EVERYONE


Well i haven't been in for a while and there is so much to catch up on.


I got flowers and breakfast in bed which was lovely and some DVD's which i already new about because i picked them. Then we spent some time with DF's mum for lunch and my mum's for dinner.

Still no sleeping through going on here. Actually we were making it to 4:30am or 5:00am then he got his needles and is now up 2 times during the night. If i get him back to sleep by 5am i sometimes lucky to sleep till 7am if DS1 stays asleep too. Which isn't often:banghead: .

I think i mentioned on my last post that Matthew had thrush and Doc thought maybe reflux but advised to wait till thrush was cleared to see if there was any change in his behaviour because this might of just been the problem. Well i definately think it is reflux. We left the boys with my parents on Friday night to go to a b'day party and we had barely been there an hour when mum rang saying she couldn't settle him and i could hear him screaming in the background and it nearly broke my heart.. So they brought him out to me and by the time they got there he had gone to sleep in the car. But he seems to be getting like this more often now and he is definately in pain. He really arches his back and the only way to settle is to have him up right over your shoulder and standing. Sometimes this doesn't even help. What do you mums who have reflux babies think? I have a script for Zantac do you think i should just start it? It breaks my heart to see him in all this pain.

Too make things worse i think he may be getting sick. Today he has got a croaky voice. DF had sore throat last week and i think DS1 might have it also. I am worried about Matt because he got an infection in his lymph gland when he was 3weeks old and i definately don't want to go through that again.

Sorry about the long post, got a bit carried away. :o

Will try to catch up on personals later

[Charis]

Still HAPPY MOTHERS DAY!!:smiliedance:
Gosh so many things about the world keep making sense..ie: remote controls/drive thrus/automatic roller doors..and I thought it was all just the sedentary society, but no its all for us Parents! Well now Mothers Day presents make sense, all those slippers/foot bathing massage things, even breakfast in bed. I guess none of those had seemed like such luxuries before!!!! :D

Hunter, little gorgeous fellow did in fact SLEEP THROUGH! (first time since week 2)Ok so there I was next to his cot at 6 with rock hard (.)(.)s..and still he slept till 6,30. YAH I so doubt it will happen again soon, but GREAT timing.
AND his Dad is being kind and nice! GOSH what a surprise! He looked after H while I did the Mothers Day Classic run race. One in each state. 3.5km (Yes so short!) but an okay time 17min +no prolapses to inhibit my stride! :laughing:

Cordelia awesome about the french beef stew! I am also dreading sleep without dummy. I will try to fatten up his thumb. Hmm he does fall asleep in the Baby Bjorn and also the car...so it is possible without a dummy. Gosh, but the thought of trying is to awful to contemplate!
Victoria 75 hope you've had a bit of a break and whatever the MIL issues were are becoming better.
FLICKA! GREAT GREAT GREAT about the Kelseys heart. What a wonderful relief. Thanks for the kind words too. Not all that superMum you know, well am if it means bolstered by my Mum!!
Tabby hope the catch up with your brother went well. Great how such big things can change. Wonderful that he and his girls can be part of Katies life!! As for eye color the same here. H has slate blue eyes now, sometimes look v brown (like mine) too.
Hels! yAH that is such an adorable photo. WOW. Reece is exceptionally good looking! Now how on earth do you get his sheets tucked that tight. My only cot complaint!
LukeandMattsMum, oh yes that heartbreaking cry! It is so awful isn't it. Also because it is saying 'DO SOMETHING to help me!!' H had it this arvo with vomit out his nose!

Well happy sleeps to all! I really need to do some work, but 10pm on Mothers Day I think the bed and I take precedence :yelclap: NIGHT ALL

[bAaM]

Just thought i would post this not to scare any one but be more wary of it.

A friend of mine took her son to get his 6 month needles at her doctor and there is a nurse there that does that.
The doctor took her in and told the nurse what was needed to de done.
The lady came and gave the needle and his leg puffed right up. My friend asked if it was normal and the nurse went away and came back and told her she had given him a dose of the adult flu shot by accident.:eek:
They went straight into the doctor and he said that bub would be ok but his leg might be swollen for a while.
The nurse was in tears and explained that it was very busy for her at that point in time as there had just been a shift change and the last nurse had drawn up both of the needles and then rushed out and must have put them in the wrong container.
Bubby was fin and my friend was very upset but didn't do anything about it as the nurse was so upset and sorry she was going to leave the job.

Just thought i would let u guys no to get them to double cheak all the time cause it could of ended tradgic if it had of been something else.

[dragonflyblu]

i have just had a really busy week and looking forward to a quiet day with clea. we had her naming day on saturday. it was reallylovely. Our first party since having bubs and it was HARD WORK! WE had a BBQ, salads cheese dip etc. made everything ourself because we wanted it to be a nice menu. We also made tiramisu and a nice chocolate cake with cream and strawberries.

My brothers girlfriend is a celebrant so she conducted the ceremony. and we had the gaurdians and 2 grandmothers light one candle toghether as a fire blessing. I was really happy that all three of my brothers were there and their families (2 brothers had to fly down to be there) and other family members drove about an hour to attend.

But... for the first time in my life I didnt have enough time. I suppose this is being a mum. So i asked a few people to do some things, and for some reason they never got done! my brother said he would get bread rolls and went up the road and came back with a case of beer and no bread! so I had made a huge bowl of hummous and no bread to have with it, and we had a sausages and no bread. And one friend was going to make a cous cous salad but got distracted and the food came out and he said "oh thats right the salad", so I dont know if we had enough food! and Clea wouldn't go to anyone else so I couldnt do anything and then 4 people dropped in (my SIL nephew who we dont know) they didnt know we had a function on, and then they stayed for food. So we catered for about 35 thinking we had about 30 coming and there were about 40 because a few extra people who said they werent coming decided they could come and turned up. Lovely to see so many people but I hate to think people were hungry. There was a bit of BBQ chicken left.... and a few bits of cake so maybe it was okay. The bread was a big omission, I kept saying I would drive up to get it and my brother said dont worry i will get it and then he decided we probably didnt need it....

Okay thats my long anxious rant, I suppose it doesnt matter now anyway. On the upside it was a great day and it started at about 1.30 and people stayed to midnight (again I should have served up more food for the late night drinkers but I was busy being mum and trying to catch up with family....) Annoyingly I had bought all the food but it wasnt served. I think I am sounding like my mum, I suppose if late night drinkers were hungry they would have rummaged around for food or ordered pizza.:ecomcity:

I know this has been a long post so no personals. Clea was a nightmare last night, she cried and cried and finally cried herself to sleep at about 10.30 but then she slept to 4am so that was a good sleep for me. DH spent all day yesterday organising our flat because we havent had time since we movedme down here. So today I can relax and look on bubhub and pay all those overdue bills :eek:

[Lukeandmattsmum]

Ok i am back on today to try and do some personals, sorry in advance if i leave anyone out it is not intentional just baby brain.

CAT - lol about your mum and the washing, it was like i was reading about my own mum.

BOSSOFLATCH - i think it was you asking about soy formula awhile ago. My DS1 was on soy because he had milk protein allergy. We used Karicare and he was fine.

SUGAR - Men just have to have a sniffle and they are dying. DF has a sore throat at the moment and anyone would think his legs are broken too. Lol

FINALCOUNTDOWN - Welcome back

TABBY - :hugs: to you and Katie hope you are feeling better soon

HELS - Reece looks so cute tucked up in his cot, hope he settles in really well.

CORDELIA - Good luck with getting rid of the dummy. I am still trying with DS1 and he is 2 now:eek: He does only have it to go to sleep with and then we take it out, so hopefully it will be gone soon.

CHARIS - i take my hat of to you doing a run and breastfeeding as well. I play netball, but i don't exactly run to much unless i wan't to give myself a black eye. That and being unfit.:rolleyes:

DRAGONFLYBLU - I always worry that i don't cater for enough food when we have parties but i always seem to have left overs. I would always rather over cater then to have people leave feeling hungry. I'm sure everyone thought it was a lovely day.

ok that was a mammoth effort i better go and do some housework now.

Oh i took the boys to the docs this morning to get their throats checked because they have both been a bit croaky on the weekend. Turns out Luke has tonsilitis but Matt is ok. Probably why Luke has been out of sorts the last week. Better go and get his medi. Catch up soon

[aries_moon]

hi all!

great to hear everyone has had a nice mother's day! It still didn't seem real to me that I was the mother, but anyway one day i'm sure. DF, or should I say Xavier, gave me a heart locket (sp?) with a pic of me and x inside, very cute! Had a picnic lunch with the MIL and sil and family was good, but the highlight of the whole day was walking all by MYSELF with the ipod plugged in up to Gloria jeans to get us cake and coffee. Seriously, I can't remember the last time i've been out in public alone and it was soooooo good!!! lol

WILD AT HEART- we are having the same sleeping issues. I am going insane as this has been going on 2 weeks now. Usually in bed by 6-7, but waking then at 12, 3 ,5!!! I'm so bloody tired. Have tried everything, he's nice and warm so that's not the problem. Managed to do the dreamfeed the other night, well he woke at 10:30 so it just happened to be right time, that didn't work. I managed to keep him up to almost 8 last nite, with lots of cluster feeding beforehand, but nope he's set in this routine. Have also ruled out a growth spurt as this has been going on too long. Let me know plz asap if he goes back to his old ways!!! Oh how I so miss getting up just once:banghead: someone please help me!!

CHARIS, nice work on the run!! I actually managed to get out and have a run last nite too, but was maybe more like 1km, if that! :laughing:

TABBY, glad you're meet with brother went well, so sorry katie not feeling well again.........

sorry can't keep up with the personals ATM, need a rest now while x has a VERY short sleep. Have a great day all!

[jacstar31]

aries - i hear you on the sleeps!! we are the same here, have ruled out growth spurts (gone on way to long!) like ellembee said; there are no tricks - each gorgeous baby is different and unique!!!
we are having a feed around 12midnight and then around 5am, can't seem to break out of that!!

I had a great mothers day, breaky in bed, great sleep in and lovely pressies of a new gorgeous pillow, ugg boots, and tracksuit - all great things to curl up for winter in front of fire!

[sugar n spice]

mattandlukes mum - i hope luke feels better soon
well im better and i did my stats test on the wkend:fingerscrossed: for a good result. i found it easier than the mock tests we did in class and at home.

ash has also been waking during the night so im feeling a bit like a zombie sorry no personals too many to keep track of

[2s'nuff]

Good to hear so many mums had a great day yesterady. Mine day was fairly uneventful. Had both girls in bed by 7 the night before. TJ slept til 3. She didn't settle again until 4.30. Then DD1 came into my bed at 5.20. :sleeping: No pressies or cards (aside from the daycare things). DD1 turned to me at about 9am and said "Happy Mothers Day Mummy", then continued doing what she was doing. They must have drummed it into them at daycare last week. DH called at 5.30 pm. Said he's looking into something for me.....whatever it is, it won't happen so I'm not holding my breath.

Another ok night from TJ last night. 8-12.30, 1-6.00 (with a couple of replugs).

Better go, thinking about going to AQWA (Aquarium) when TJ wakes up, so had better get organised.

Lisa

[2s'nuff]

Will revisit that last thought. DD1 has fallen asleep on the lounge. Will try and get to AQWA after both girls wake up:p .

[Hels*Bels]

I'm going to attempt some personals. After a mammoth screaming session in both his portacot and normal cot, I finally fed R as a last resort. Now he has fallen straight asleep in his bouncer beside me. He needs to be changed and washed and have clean clothes. But I am not going to disturb him until he wakes up :shame: .

Tabby - :hugs: Sorry to hear Katie has been sick, is she any better today? How are you feeling too? Next time I feel a cold coming I am going to try that new product called "Frist Defence", I have seen it on TV.

Cordelia - I was wondering why you are trying to get rid of the dummy? Are you worried that if you don't do it now she will have it forever?

Kylie - I know another mum who's bub has silent reflux, she has started the zantac and it has made a difference. Maybe give it a try to see if it works? It might be something that you only need to use for a short time anyway.

Charis - Congrats on doing the run, makes me feel so unhealthy and lazy lol. Re the cot blanket, I just tuck it in under the mattress quite tightly. He is also laying inside an anti-roll thing so that stops him moving around alot. He has always used that but I forget what it's called.

Leashie - That's scarry about the needles, I will be paying special attention when R has his next lot, they are coming up soon.

Dragonflyblu - I enjoyed reading about Clea's naming day, it sounded like a great success and I'm sure there was plenty of food. I bet you felt really great afterwards due to organising it all and having things run so smoothly, well done hun.

Sugar - Congrats on the stats test, hope you get a good result. I have always admired your get-up-and-go.

Cheeki - Sorry to hear the kids are unwell, hope they recover soon. Sounds like you had a lovely day yesterday.

I wonder why so many bubs are being unsettled? The nights have improved for us but we are getting some very unsettled times during the day now. It's making me more reluctant to take him out alot which is a shame. Hopefully he will grow out of it soon so we can start doing more things again.
My afternoons wandering around at the shopping centre are on hold at the moment :(

We went to a different baby shop yesterday after lunch. They have relocated and it's now twice the size. It's one of the best shops I have been too. I could have spent a fortune in there, thankfully we ran out of time! However, we did buy a portacot for daytime sleeps (also doubles up as a playpen) and a new baby bath which sits inside our bath but is alot bigger than his other one, which he is out-growing now. Plus I am always getting drenched now as he kicks around so much lol.
Not sure if I mentioned before that we have ordered a bookcase unit for R's room? It has a storeage draw at the bottom and it's being custom made. I can't wait for it to turn up, I have lots of nice things to put in it now (including his trophies :p ).
Sorry for the huge post, but it's nice to be able to catch up properly for once.

[bossoflatch]

wow - just got back from the pead this morning, to all those that have been following the weight loss sage with bubs...

she has only put on a marginal weight (100 grams ) since two weeks ago when we had a revied for her reflux... so she did loose weight by the looks of it - but we have been fattening her up with the special formula all weekend so i hoped she had put on weight... but she still hasn't put on enough... so now i am to breast feed her and still give her 120 mls of 1 and a quater strength of formula:eek: .... so assuming she is still getting milk off me... ( i am sure she is - ) she is going to get chubby real soon. apparently bubs has had a growth spurt - she is 75 percentile on the height and head circm. but only 20 percentile on the weight - so i really have to get some extra weight on her...

also her reflux has taken control again - so she has double her meds again... so the poor thing not only has the cows milk protein allergy - but she is still suffering from reflux quite bad..:crying: :crying:

just wanted to let you all know and to say thanks for listening to me over the last few days...

[SammyG]

Bossoflatch, I am following your story closely. Clinic nurse got me a bit panicky last week as M only puts on minimum each week 100-125g per week. He is 90th percentile for length and just under 50th for head & weight. Like you, I'm sure he gets plenty of milk from me even though he's quite fast 5-10mins 1st side, 4-8mins 2nd side. He rarely grizzles and sleeps well, has good colour and nappies are wet and lots of poos. Can they have a problem taking nutrients from the milk? That's my latest fear. Sounds like you have all under control though! :wave:

[Cat13]

Bit sad, just sent mum & dad off to the airport with DH to return to Melbourne. I do feel bad raising C so far away from them and dad especially feels he's missing out. Don't know how I'm going to keep C amused tomorrow without Dad pulling funny faces all day. Plus it's immunisation day tomorrow :gloomy: . C had just got used to having them around and being more settled at night again too.

Still not sure if it was their visit or hunger that was causing the night waking but I do know he seemd to have chubbed up heaps just over the last week. Guess I'll find out tomorrow when the nurse weighs him!

Had a good mother's day. Got a card & pressie from C with DH's help. Got my choccies and also some parenting magazines. DH knows me well. Very sad but bubs are all I'm interested in reading about at the moment! Went for a drive in the hills for a picnic lunch and C was wonderful. Only really sooked when we were 20mins from returning home but fair enough, he'd been in the car seat for 2 hours & it should have been bath & feed time. Another good day today. DH took leave from work and we took the ferry to Magnetic Island & some other sightseeing & C was wonderful again. Even had a 3hr afternoon nap (including a transition form car to pram) while we were driving and having a late lunch down at a beer garden by the beach. I used to dread taking C out Hels but now I find he's usually pretty good. I usually leave home right after a feed and try and get back in time for his nap. Days like today when we are driving are great because when he's tired he drops off to sleep in the car after a little grizzle.

Bossoflatch, good luck with the new feeding regime. Sammy, sounds like your bub is health & happy - might just be naturally lean!

[Cordelia]

Everytime I have garlic bread I always say "never again" as Caitlin has such a harsh reaction and yet yesterday .. I had garlic bread and man... today... 3 poonamis and crying alllll day. *thumps head*

bossoflatch - it's good that you have a plan of action. I'm sure things will look up your bub.

mousebrown: how was aqwa?? I just counted and I haven't been there in 10 years since me and DH started "going out"!!

Hels: just really never wanted to use a dummy and feeling pressure from my family I guess. Didn't use it until recently and feeling a bit like a failure for "giving in" from my folks.

aries - Good luck with your sleeping still! Maybe he's an early solids starter?

cheeki: I've just figured out that the number after your "dd's" and "ds's" refers to the age and not the number!! I think ds2 1/2 was the real clue :) You must be so busy with your family and yet you always seem so cool, calm and collected. Good on you!

[finalcountdown!]

Hi all

Well my little man is waking too at the moment. Usually goes down around 7pm, try to hold him off as long as i can!! He takes 240ml formula, but usually wakes again around 2ish then at 5.30...and its not usually worth me trying to get him back to sleep as by the time he does its time for me to get DD off to school!!

He s having rice cereal mixed with pureed pears once a day, and absolutly loves it...to those of you holding out in the hope that it will make bubs sleep...goodluck...unfortunatly it didnt make any difference to my little fella!!

We are off to have 4 month needles on wednesday (YUCK!) why is it that hubby is ALWAYS at work on these days!!

I recently had a girls trip down to brissy, went to see Pink in concert and went to draculas rest on the gold coast. Had a wonderful time. Was sick in the stomach before i left about leaving bub.....was away for 4 nights :eek: But that will be it for me for the year so i made the most of it!! The kids stayed with the MIL and were absolutly doted on!! It was great just to be "ME" again..if you know what i mean. Even if i did feel like i was missing my right arm!! LOL!!

Next weekend hubby and i are having a night off together and leaving the kids with MIL for one night and going and staying at a resort @ the beach....pretty sad when you have a romantic night away and all you look forward to is the sleep in !! :sleeping:

Our little man was conceived through IVF, and we have 3 embryos still in the freezer. You have to pay every 6 months to keep them frozen, hubby has decided that we should have them destroyed as we have 2 beautiful healthy children, and we should consider ourselves lucky for that. He bought up the financial side of having a 3rd child and the fact that it would set us back again in terms of our lifestyle ...another few years... although i agree with most of his points i just cant bear to do it....all the what ifs...and i feel like im destroying my babies!!!! Even if they are just embryos!!!! What are your thoughts?????

[SammyG]

Such a Tough one Finalcountdown! You are both still relatively young to shut that door! I too want a 3rd and DH isn't into it yet, I will work on him though!

[Charis]

HI!
Just to say Aries! I've been reading Helping Your Baby to SLeep - why gentle techniques work best (for the last 4hrs! hm don't ask, H sleep-feeding twice after waking at 6pm with an extreme cry!) Lent to me by other playgroup Mum, or I'd lend it on. Is pretty much all anti-controlled crying, but more pertinent to NOW is that it says 'don't worry you haven't done anything 'wrong' in relation to feeding to sleep/co-sleeping/rocking/dummies/etcetc, and as they grow-up the ways to put them to sleep change.' Also that (as you know) when they go through big developmental changes ie: new skill they do the 2-3hrly at nights. 4 of our Parents Group - now playgroup of 12 are dealing with 2-3hrly nights at the moment. All mostly 4-6months though. Oh great!!!

Essentially the best bit in it is saying that 'their crying is never meaningless' (maybe it was the first fews weeks!??) but isn't now and we need empathy for what they're on about. Only other suggestions would be X goes for big outside time before dark, and to make sure you get the tired signs (which keep changing here) and tiring himself out a few times during the day, followed by calm soothing quiet time. Absolutely no expert, you know that! he he..but just having had week of BIG COT screaming now all soothed and OVER (for the moment) I am now sage-like :laughing: GREAT about yr time out. Oh great shop near you The Good Shop :)

Hope that had some relevance to all.

Cat13 v sad about yr folks going, but awesome about the CAR-PRAM transfer. All the best with the shots. Yes us too! oops, must remember to book!
Sugar, great to hear you're well and the Stats test was better than you expected. You must study at this time of night too?
FinalCountdown, HUGELY hard. Can only suggest if and when you both make the decison not to keep them 'on ice' you celebrate their potential. Recognise their tiniest beginning.
Cordelia, am just up to sleep associations in this book..(Almost as good as Baby Love) am beginning to believe unconsoled screaming is much worse for them than having a dummy. ??
Father of H has all the negative affects of being left crying, I think!! So beware :)
Hels, how're you going with the PND? The new cabinet for R sounds very cool!!

Yikes, got about an hr work done all day and need to write some letters. H had a mostly v nice day really watches the other playgroup kids. At the reaching out for the world and stuffing it in his mouth stage, leaves/grass/toy ears. mmm.
Nitexx

[Tabby]

Morning,

Try to catch up while Katie sleeps and have a nice peaceful coffee!
Were both still unwell with this cold! Taking forever to get rid of, has gone to my chest..great, take even longer now. The night before last we spent on the couch and all day as she was so unwell didnt want be out of my arms poor thing, last night was a bit better, cot all night but lots of moans/groans and wakeups. She seems a bit better than yesterday so :fingerscrossed: on the road to recovery.
SOoo hard when theres not much can do to help cept nurofen and a nice bath and LOTS of cuddles.

Mum suggested I get the flu needle that way might help so Katie wont get things off me, can at least keep dp away if he brings them home. down fall of his job ( call centre ) lots of bugs floating rnd!

Hels: Hows the cot move going?
Whats the defense thing? Sounds interesting.

finalcountdown: Agree with Sammy. still young to shut that door? You never know! Is it very expensive that 6 month fee to keep them there just in case?

cat: :hugs: for needles today, and anyone else have missed??!

boss: hope things start improving now meds up and advice paed. Keep us up to date wont you xx

cheeki: Hows the boys? hope they are feeling better, poor things!

Mouse: Hope you had a great time AQWA

Argh that will have to do for now, my heads killing me! Might go rest with Katie I think.

Sorry if missed anything/anyone!!! :hugs: to all and hope everyones well.
ps: Forgot to say DP got me card from him and Katie for mothers day! I was quite taken aback as didnt expect anything, was a really beautiful card too!

[Flicka]

Hi there.

Bossflatch - Glad to hear thing weren't as bad as you thought from the paed (at least she has gained a little again). Keep us updated and keep your confidence in your milk - it is one of the best things for her at the moment (combined with the bottles too). At least, even if you are feeling low about her weight issues, you can sit down with her and give her a boob feed and some bonding time.

Finalcountdown - wow tough decision ahead. If they were eggs maybe I would think of donating but the fact they are emby's is a different ball game. Hmmmm - yes agree with Charis if the decision is made you def need to mark it - maybe plant a tree or something? That is what we did for my 4 miscarriages.

We are great here. Plans in full swing for Kelsey's christening at the end of June. Am knitting her a little cardigan/shrug to go over her dress.
MIL questioned us over our choice of godparents - we chose 3 women and no men. My parents are coming from Japan and MIL only has to come from brissie but she wants the date changed to suit her and is complaining about the cost to fly up!!! I mean HELLO - my folks are paying to come all the way from Japan and she is whinging about a cheapie jet star flight!!! GRRRRR...Vent over.

Catch up soon.

[sugar n spice]

hi all. well ash only woke once last night at 3 so i gave him the dummy and he went back to sleep till 7.30 :yelclap:.

its so cold and wet here but the rain is good for our growing lawn.

finalcountdown - hard descion only you know what to do. i want to have a 4th child but dh says not atm as we would be really tight for money. i mean having a 3rd didnt think it would change things but we are definetly tighter for money. so he think its better to have 3 and enjoy things than to have 4 and be struggling.

[bossoflatch]

just when i thought that things were looking up for us - i mean she slept from 10pm thru to 5.30 this morning - :smiliedance:

BUT now she wont take the breast.... she woke up this morning and had breast - at 5.30 and than at 9 she wouldn't take thebreast - screamed and screamed when getting on the breast - had the bottle .... and then i tried to feed her at 12 whilst she wouldn't be hungry , just to encourage her whilst she was sleepy ... and she wouldn't take the breast again... i am so sad...:crying:

it is as if she doesn't like the taste..wtf???? she take the breast and then she pushes it out when she starts getting a little and then she just refuses to take to the breast.... i really don't want her to stop bf..but with her history the doc said i have to feed her even if she refused the breast...so i HAVE to give her bottle and i really don't want to ..:gloomy:

sorry i have been really self centred lately in my posts - i just really want this to be over and for her to have a really good booby feed again...

[SammyG]

I'm really feeling for you Bossoflatch. I didn't get a choice about BF DS1 and I was devastated. If you do have to stop before you really want to remember to congratulate yourself for doing it for this long! Also remember the positives of bottle feeding. Both M & I are absolutely hopeless feeding in public and a bottle would be so much easier. And as hard as it is to hand over, imagine the freedom of letting someone else do the feeding every once and a while! Most of all remember You will always be the centre of your precious girl's world cos your'e her mum! :hugs:

[victoria75]

Bossoflatch - :hugs: 's to you. I know exactly how you feel. I didnt want to stop feeding either. For me though there was no other option. I just wanted to let you know what I was told by my MCN when feeding DS1 - he went througha stage of exactly what you have just described and she said - " they do this when you are ovulating" apparently the milk can taste quite sour. They can smell it a mile off. It only last 24hours and then settles again. I thought she was stupid. Needless to say my period came not long after. Just a thought. Hope it maybe makes you feel a bit better. Keep doing what you are doing. Try to remember no matter what happens you have done a fantastic job to feed for this long. Hey its months longer then me. I'm thinking of you. Take care.

Oh and yey for the long sleep.:yelclap:

[Ellembee]

Hi everyone

Boss - hope things get better for you. As Sammy said, you need to congratulate yourself that you fed her for as long as you did.

Finalcountdown - Yes it is a MASSIVE decision. I agree with whoever said, only you can make the decision.

:hugs: to all those who are not well, or whose bubs are unwell.

Us - We have had a lovely morning - we went to Mums and Bubs yoga and G loved it but was just soooo tired afterwards. G unfortunately seems to have picked up a feed - the 9.30/10.00 one (she normally went from about 6.30pm - 1.30am). Anyway, hopefully she will drop it again soon. Because I was in the habit of going to bed early - it now feels like I am up 3 times a night! I need to make the appointment for the 4 month needles, but just really don't want to. Might put my head in the sand for another couple of days.

Hope everyone is having a nice day.

E xx

[Cat13]

Thank goodness. Needles out of the way now and no more for 2 months. Wish it was longer even though C was a real trooper. Cried for the first needle only because he didn't like me holding him tightly and sobbed after the 3rd needle but all better soon with a few cuddles and all smiles again on the way home. Only side effect last time was sleepiness so hoping the same happens again! The doctor did pick up a slight heart murmer when he checked him over but for now just something else to keep an eye on that he will hopefully outgrow. My little man is not so little anymore and now weighs 6.2kg.


Charis - I read that book about gentle sleep techniques several weeks ago and have been much happier ever since and so much less stressed about C's sleeping. If anyone says anything to me about feeding, rocking or 'pramming' him to sleep they will get that book thrown at them! Also read Pinky McKay's book.

Tabby - hope you and Katie are both feeling better soon.

Bossoflatch - :hugs: you are not being at all self-centred! You are bub-centred which is totally to be expected! Just a few thoughts even though I'm sure you've tried EVERYTHING by now! If she seems happy with the bottle, would she take expressed breastmilk from the bottle? If so it would at least rule out taste as an issue. Also, have you tried holding her in different positions at the breast? Sometimes when C is being fussy I have success supporting him on my lap with a pillow so he's on his back (head elevated) with just his head turned to my breast. Maybe a bit closer to matching the bottle feeding position she's happy with? He's also fussy if the flow is either too slow or fast but unfortunately I am not a tap that can be adjusted!

cheeki - hope there has been no more :barf: for you to clean up. I'm so dreading having to deal with that one day but I guess we just do what we have to do....

sammy - we are hopeless at feeding in public too! Also, this morning I finally caught a bit of that Mums & Bubs Huggies show you mentioned a while back. Will have to try and catch it again soon to see if it is worth making an effort to watch!

ellembee - I'm impressed. Despite my best intentions never actually made it to a mums & bubs yoga class!

[dragonflyblu]

bossoflatch hope it all works out soon. she would like the taste dont worry about that. she may have nipple confusion. contact an ABA advisor over the phone, they are very good at bottle/breast problems. there are also other ways to get food into bubs which encourage booby, maybe look into the tube feed? dont worry there will be a solution.

clea is all snotty today, may have a little head cold. she is asleep on me in her mobywrap i wanted to keep her upright for a bit cause she kept coughing i think because the fluid runs down her throat. besides sleeping on my heart beat is supposed to be good for her immune system.

well going to type up my brothers cv tonight if clea goes to bed early. he works in scurity at a hospital and his roster is awful. he has 4 nights straight 2 in emergency dept. and next month he has 4 nights then 1 off then 3 nights. he is exhausted and it is a stressful job so i am going to try to find him a job closer to home.

[victoria75]

Dragonflyblu: I was just putting forward another suggestion that I had been told. Not saying that was the problem. Sometimes it helps just hearing other ideas. That is what happened to me and it seemed to be right. Just trying to help. I got the impression you werent that impressed.

Tabby: Hope you and Katie are feeling better today. Did you manage to get some rest today?

Ellembee: Glad to hear you had just a fantastic day. I am off to excercise class tonight> i domine when hubby is home. I hadnt thought of doing one with little miss. I shall look into it and see if there are any classes near me.

Hels: Hope the transition went well for you during the day. Let me know.

Better go - its dinner time here. More later.

[aries_moon]

hello all:wave:

hmmmm, I am curious about this gentle sleep technique book although I just bought the baby whisperer one last week and it was really no help at all!

Today has been the best day ever and will tell ya why, even though some may look down on me about this, I don't care!!! After much deliberation I decided to try x on rice cereal this morning. Yes he is only 3 and a bit months BUT he is a very big, robust boy and I've had a feeling i haven't been satisfying him with my milk alone as he feeds constantly during day (and now at nite). He took to it like a pro, was leaning in for the spoon and everything. Gave him half tsp after a morning feed, slept for 2 hrs, then another 1/2 tsp this arvo and has been sleeping 1.5 hrs, still going now. I'm hoping this makes him sleep better at nite, but not fussed now as he's finally had some good day sleeps which he NEVER has. Anyway, just thought i'd share.

:hugs: BOSSOFLATCH, some bf'ing is still better than none, you've done well try not to be too upset.

Hope you and bubs are all having a great day!

[sugar n spice]

aries moon - that is great he took to the rice cereal. ash hates it but he loves custard

[victoria75]

Aries Moon - Thats great. Hope it continues tonight. :yelclap: :yelclap: Good Boy X.

[Ellembee]

yaaaay - Aries moon!! Thats great. Don't worry about what other people think - you need to follow your instincts.

[dragonflyblu]

victoria75 oh no! there has been a confusion i was responding to bossoflatch not you, i started responding hours ago when bossoflatch was the last post and took ages to finish it. you are right they can get fussy when we are ovulating. sorry about that.:D

[Charis]

Aries and Xavier that is wonderful good on you! Phew a 2hr sleep, great for you. The book I mentioned pretty much says 'if what you're doing works, keep doing it' maybe gradually change if you want to. None of the guilt about regiment and feeding/rocking to sleep you find elsewhere. Encouraging and empowering.

Yee gad! I had my dear friend and her 9month old boy here this morning (before 'work'!) and WOW crawling. The destructive capacity of a beautiful boy on his knees and hands. Certainly some major baby proofing to be done here.

Poor H woke himself with an escaped wee, he was all warm cosy and halfway through a sleep before, it was awful. Consoling them builds trust and bonding, the only positive I can see in him screaming to vomit status when I was changing his clothes as fast as I could. In future will just take off the wet ones and put him on the breast. oops better go..a half an hr of work presents itself!! :smiliedance:

Anyone else reckon kissing originated (early cave man time) with 'finding the nipple' esp when they do it on your face, v similar.

Oh two night feeds last night..well not strictly, but I still call 5.30 night, H doesn't so we watched the sun come up outside.

nite nite all. Freddie how're you going?? Hope as well as can be expected. The 2-3 wks of 2-3hr nights seems to have a time limit, but am certainly not looking forward to it myself.

Isn't that weird about ovulating and feeding, perhaps it is a natural way of reducing the chance of pregnancy further by making sure you'll be tired/grumpy/strung out if bubs dob't feed well around that time. Not poking fun at all, BossofLatch, and it may not be ovulation at all, it certainly sounds a very very hard time for you. :hugs: Sorry that you're having this happen now. Congrats on feeding for so long. :yelclap:
xx

[finalcountdown!]

Hey all
Thanks for your insights and replies on the embryo storage. I know you are right. that it is my decision but in saying that sometimes there are other issues and points that people bring up that i may not have thought of.

and to who said about planting the tree (sorry forgot to right it down!!) i think thats a great idea, hubby probably wouldnt see the fuss but when i look at my son now and he WAS one of those embryos i feel like that by destroying them i am killing my babies!!
And yes i agree with the donating of eggs..would be no problem for me, but the embryos are OUR child, and i feel like i would always be wondering andlooking in crowds for them.

Bossoflatch - Just a quick comment, I stopped bf at 2 months as bub just wasnt that interested anymore, was constantly feeding and was suffering really bad colic (maybe due to nipple sheilds). I went through soo many emotions...guilt, anger, embarrassment, dissapointment, it was almost as if i was grieving for the whole breastfeeding process!!!
BUt since putting him on the bottle, seeing him full and content, you quickly forget all that...and i never looked back. So, do what ever you need to do......try not to stress yourself out!

Well better go and get organised...Jett has his 4 months needles tomorrow (couple weeks overdue!!), then he is going to his first ever playgroup session!!!

Hopefullly tonite we will have a better night, he cat napped around 5.30pm this arvo and didnt go down til 8pm (usually down at 6.30ish) So hoping this will help him sleep longer!!
Plus he spent at least an hour in his jolly jumper tonight bouncing around...HE LOVES IT! so hopefull he s well worn out !!!!!
May the sleep fairy be with your bubbas!! :sleeping:

[Tabby]

Aries: :fingerscrossed: the solids will help him sleep through, agree with you starting solids, as you say hes a big boy and when solids should be started should be a individual thing, not what "the books" tell us all. after all the day sleep has improved so thats a start.

Boss: Agree with finalcountdown, I also went through the guilt process giving up bf but as she says you soon forget when you see how content and full they are and the stress removed from you..Hope you can continue though as thats what you want and soon find a solution to whats wrong, if not remember we are here for you :hugs:.

victoria: Thanks for asking.Nope not a good day as thought it might be, she seemed better early on but as the day went on she got worse, really think her teeth are bothering her again as well. soaking her outfit and biting on my finger made her stop crying for a bit, that combined with the cold makes a sad Katie. oh and diarrhea again.

Shes finally asleep in bed now after very little sleep today, 20 mins catnaps 3 times was all.
DP came home and gave me some time out which I needed badly, Katie was in my arms pretty much all of the day.
She hasnt lost her appetite though, first time for lamb/potato/pumpikin and she loved it! Lazy way though, in a jar lol. I just didnt have the energy prepare.

finalcountdown: Hugs for Jett and his needles tomorrow

Thanks everyone for wishing her better xxx
Hopefully tomorrow is a better day.

[Lukeandmattsmum]

:hugs: Bossoflatch, i know how it feels when bubs refuses the breast Matt did this after he was sick. I just perseverd with it and he eventually got the idea.

Are you taking any vitamins or anything to help boost your supply? My chn recommended raspberry leaf, you can get it in tablets or tea. It boosts your supply, maybe this will help. I took them after Matt didn't put on any weight one week and then the next he put on 300g. Just a thought anyway, can't hurt to try.

Another suggestion is that you can get this special device from medela which you attach around your neck and it is a small tube that you run down your breast and while bubs is bf you can also supplement with formula, so then they are getting satisfied and also helping your milk supply. I hope that all makes sense.

Good luck with everything. We are all here ready to lend an ear and give advice.

Not sure if you can make it or not but some of us Brissie mums are meeting in southbank tomorrow if you are interested. PM me for the rest of the details if you like.

[2s'nuff]

Hi-ya Girlies

Cheeki...Hope your kids are feeling better. There's nothing worse than having to clean up :barf: , just gettign it cleaned up, for it to happen all over agin.
Bossoflatch...:hugs: Hope everything settles again for you soon.
Cordelia...If the dummy is giving you some sanity, hang on to it. Forget what others say about it.
Finalcountdown...tuff choice. If you're not ready to make the decision yet, maybe hang on for another 6 months.
Tabby...healthy vibes coming your way. Are you using the Fess boogie sucker to clear Katies nose? It was the best thing I found to help TJ breathe when she had a cold recently. Do you ahve a humidifier? This might also help with the night time breathing.
Aries...have some confidence in yourself and do what feels right. Forget what others and the "Books" say.
:hugs: to all the bubbies (and mummies) having their needles.

AQWA was great. DD1 raced around looking at everything. Almost bowled a few people over in her eagerness. Three trips around the underwater area later... TJ also thought it was great. She spent most of the time avidly watching upwards. Don't know if she could see the fish or whether it was the light reflecting on the water that she loved...

Long sleeps to everyone,
Lisa

[Charis]

Sorry for being a post hog. I know there are some v special partners out there..do they also put Bub first to the extent we Mums do?

Just a thought, after H's Dad who kindly turned up to cook dinner (first time in 4months!) but midway through unpacking (as I was feeding) argued and walked out after I said I didn't think 2 nighttimes out in one week for H was a good idea. YIKES am glad I am resilient, but had a few tears dripping down while kept feeding H to sleep :smiliedance: and reading the great book and almost completely ok now. His Dad needs to be needed/made the priority/consulted due to his own insecurities, I need to just get on with raising beautiful H, as that is what we have to do!

Oh yes and as for dinner, worse than not coming at all..as preparing it for myself now, usually have it all pre-prepared. Anyhow sorry for the whinge.

I know he has MAJOR ISSUES< i will just try and remember this always, rather than just seeing the few good qualities too often. Childhood neglect has a lot to answer for!!!!!!!

I cannot understand putting my needs (ie party of friends but not all that close friends or such) in front of Hunters for sleep and stability. Just a question, the genders may be different at this one??

Am ok. Thanks for the semi-vent.I will attempt to listen to my own advice and not let myself be hurt or keep burdening you guys with the same story. THANKS

Hugs for the sore needle legsCameron, the snuffly nosesKatie and all the beautiful bubbies and their Mums. Gorgeous about TJ and the view upwards MB, H really started looking at the sky today.
xx

[Tabby]

Mouse: She doesnt have a snuffy nose as such.
Mainly headache/fever/sneezes/light headed feeling ( if same as me ). Am going to invest in a humidifier asap though, have heard great things and am sure this cold is no1 of many.
Sounds like had a lovely day out. lol @ dd1 and her eagerness.

Charis: I like to think DP puts Katie first and I do think he does, example would be how we havn't gone to his parents yet since born as its quite a drive and he fully agrees shes not ready for it yet regardless of how much mil harps on us to go there.
Hope H's Dad wakes up very soon! Life changes and we have to adapt so and he needs to as well.
:hugs::hugs: for you and vent all you like anytime!

[Ellembee]

Charis - my DH is lovely and really really tries hard - but because he is not with G all day, I am not quite sure he really gets that it is much better for G to stay home more often than not. He is learning though - and I am positive that is because he is getting to know her a bit more. I am constantly reminding him that because I spend 24/7 with her, I know her best and therefore know what is good for her. I personally think that unless the dads are stay at home, or have had kids before - it takes them all time. Not making excuses for H's dad - because his reactions do seem a bit childish, but just letting you know, that I think that to some extent, most dad's are bit like H's dad (ie - they don't have a clue!!!).

[aries_moon]

:hugs: CHARIS, you are not burdening us, it is good to get it out!! I think being the mum, we know our bubs best and know when it's important to just stay home no matter what the situation. Even my DF sometimes forgets that it just does not work to go out at nite and will still suggest we go to xyz!! I really feel for you that he has hurt you again though, but you are such a good mummy to Hunter to just push through all his cr*p and get on with your own life. Maybe say to the ex to just not come round at all until further notice?? might wake up to himself abit then, but may also add fuel to the fire....hmmm wish I had better advice for you, but please just vent away whenever you need to!!

On a positive note, the farex seems to have made a difference to our nights, as he woke at his old time of 3:30 for a feed!!! So that's a 6:30-3:30, instead of 12, then 3!!! Woohooo I feel like I am finally starting to get things together here. Thanks to all of you that offered encouragement!! I find am naturally on the defensive these days in regards to being a "young mum" (even though I hate that term) and I'm not feeling the heat at all from you ladies on here, but have been doing a lot of unnecessary explaining to some very prying questions from a few mum's group ladies!! anyway, mini vent over, I should send them all over to bubhub here so they can learn we're all equal as mums no matter what our circumstances!!

TABBY, I sure hope katie is on the mend by now :fingerscrossed:

Am really feeling for you all doing the needles now, but then will be envious once you've got it out of the way and i'll have a few more weeks to dread it...oh dear!!

LUKEANDMATTSMUM, I also didn't know rasp. leaf tea is meant to boost supply!!! I have a bit left over from pg so will take it and see if it helps!!

x up now, have a lovely day ladies.........is anyone else freezing right now or is it just us in perth??? BBRRRRRRR (says the canadian!:rolleyes: )

[bossoflatch]

:hugs: :hugs: now i know why i get on here.. you ladies are all so lovely..

well she slept really well last night ...she went down at 10.30 unti about 5 again this morning... and she has had two feeds this morning...... just wanted to say , thanks to everyone for keeping my spirits up...

i think i have either been ovulating or something else.. as i was up sick last night real nausious (sp??) and sickin th the gut all night and even a bit this morning.. but stil she has feed as i said twice - so at this stage i am happy with that... and i know i have fed for a good time - i just love the fact that she is bf and i know when the time does come i will cope and so will she... as i don't yet have af back - maybe i will be getting her in the next few weeks... thanks again to you all ....

[SammyG]

Charis, I'm with Ellembee, some just don't have a clue! I love my DH dearly and he is becoming a better dad every day (doesn't have a great example to follow) but he still infuriates me on a regular basis. He's too tired-WTF, kids don't wait! Stuff needs to get done STRAIGHT AWAY. He does understand the staying home at night thing though, probably because he has seen the repurcussions more than once!

Well M decided to have his last feed at 7pm last night so we had a rare 4am feed, quite a rude shock really. At least he then slept till 8am but I was already up with DS1 by then.

You know how the kids are constantly on our minds, unless the dad is a primary carer I don't think they ever fully understand it or if they do it just makes them jealous! That's been my experience anyway.

[Tabby]

:yelclap: bossoflatch! Hope it continues now, rather puzzling but :fingerscrossed: whatever is/was is gone!

YAY for the longer sleep Xavier!

Katie seems much better today ( thanks everyone ) after a crappy night though. Up at 130am 4 times to re-settle so headed to the couch again where she laid in my arms for a hr before going back to sleep! Rather restless sleep after that but least was something.
Then again I said yesterday she seemed better morning....update later on that lol

Gotta run, brother coming over to visit ( and drop of a glass dining suite for us ) :thumbsup:

xxx

[SammyG]

Tabby, so glad K is on the mend, hope the nights improve quickly! Lucky you getting a new dining suite!

Bossoflatch, woohoo, great news BF back on track!

Aries, you sound like you are a great mum, I always forget all our ages, the kids are the equaliser. I have friends older than me that seem a lot less mature than you! Glad farex is working!

[dragonflyblu]

we had a snotty nose night last ight with lots of feeds. poor clea awful to have a stuffy nose so young. I was aiming for a sleepy day with lots of booby but she just cried for 30 minutes before falling off to sleep...

Tabby sounds like we are going through the same thing. I was reading up o baby colds and aparently #2's can be mucasy as well so maybe Katie's runny poo is part of the cld, Clea has it as well.

Anyway she is finally aslep so now I can have breakfast.

[Tabby]

Oh your probably right, it was rather umm icky! lol

Hope Clea gets better soon :hugs:..Yes so hard to see them like it and so little can do. We were lucky in some aspect as didnt get the yucky nose, so feeds wern't affected.

So far so good. for the first time in about 3 days shes gone to nap pram again instead of in my arms YAY!

[Cordelia]

Cold nights aren't they! I finally relented and got Caitlin a gro-bag type thing yesterday but I have to fasten the sleeves so she doesn't slip down and suffocate - the silly lady wanted me to get the 0-6 month one and there is no way i'm paying that much money for somethign that won't last very long. So much to their dismay I got the 6-18 month old one. Blah blah blah sorry :P

Aries - yay!! I reckon the sleeps will just get longer and longer now :) and you ARE doing a great job as a mum as most young mums do anyway! It's instinct. And really, it's only of late that women are having babies later anyway so you are of normal "child bearing age". I'm the youngest in my group as well and I respect why the other women have waited - that's great - but I feel like they're always trying to defend themselves and make me feel like an idiot for not doing more with my life b4 i had a baby. another blah blah blah paragraph sorry

Re: Dads - Fortunately DH sees me as the mum but too much - like asks me about every little thing and it's driving me mad. "should i change the nappy" "should i put her socks on" "what time do you want to put her to bed" GRRRRRrRrRrrr. But you're right - mum's are the ones that spend the most time with bubs and Hunter's dad should respect what you have to say on matters because YOU'RE the one who puts up with the consequences.

rasberry leaf tea - yeah i think i'll give that a go too.. i only had 1 drink of it (the night b4 my water's broke). It won't magically make another baby appear will it? I guess I"ll take that chance ;P

Caitlin has really found her voice since last Friday and it is sooo cute. I rang DH a few weeks ago so he could listen to her laugh and he snapped "i've heard her laugh i have to go" so I went FINE DONT WORRY. But last night she was giggling as I sang some silly nursery rhymes and he couldn't believe her long chuckles. SERVES HIM RIGHT. He's been missing out on her chuckles for weeks *evil snarly laugh*

[Flicka]

Hey girls

Just wanted to drop in and say hello.
:hugs: to you mums and bubs who have a cold at the moment. Hugs also for those of you going thru the second round of needles. Kelsey is due for hers so will have to get it done next week when DH can be there to hold her.

Bossoflatch - glad things seem to be going ok. Totally understand your feelings towards b/feeding but even if you can keep up a couple of feeds per day at least that is some nice mummy/baby bonding time you can share. Don't get me wrong - there is plenty of bonding time for bottle fed bubs too so if you have to go that way you know you are just doing your best for her. We're all here to listen 'cos I can only imagine how worried you have been the last week. :hugs: for you - you're doing a great job.

Aries - So glad to hear X settled after a bit of rice cereal. I agree - he is a big boy so maybe he really needed it. As everyone else has said - you know what is best.

Can't remember much else....
Oh yes,
Charis - Blardy MEN!!! Maybe your DP isn't putting H first because he isn't there all of the time to fully immerse himself in the whole new baby experience. Not that I am making excuses for him.....my DH has been fully immersed for the last 2.5 years and STILL doesn't get it sometimes. I think sometimes (but not always) we mums are the primary care givers and tend to be a bit more in tune with baby than our men. When the kids are sick I literally feel sick - like I wish I could be sick in their place. I worry all night about them yet there is DH sleeping soundly like it doesn't bother him.....I think they are a bit blind to alot of stuff - maybe lacking on the emotional sensitivity side of things. Plus men can let their ego (and their willies) run the show sometimes. Hope you are ok. My heart went out to you shedding a tear while b/feeding H. SHould be a lovely time for you and H during booby feeds and yet you are being made to feel sad. Chin up sister .

This post hog had better fly. The ironing is not doing itself in my lounge......

[SammyG]

Flicka, I agree with you completely about the 'blardy men' When you say it it seems a little less harsh!

[Tabby]

Spoke too soon again. Must be her teeth giving her grief now, just had her grizzle for an hr+ so tired but soon as laid down she wouldnt sleep :( Finally asleep in my arms and transfered to the cot ok.

Hels: havnt heard from you for a couple of days..
Hope you and R are ok?

[2s'nuff]

:hugs: to the sick bubs at the moment.

Men just don't get it. DH still puts his wants before the girls needs (and he's had a long time to practice). If I ask him to do something, it's always after he has a smoke, or gets another beer.:banghead: I find I'm always giving him prewarning about something he's going to need to do for the girls.

TJ going ok. Still no rolling over or giggles (well none I ahve heard, the daycare girls tell me they've had a few laughs).

As for the cold weather, our heating goes most mornings at the moment, and even had the gas heater on until the girls went to bed last night. Have to buy another oil heater for DD1's room.

Have a great day!
Lisa

[Cat13]

I feel for poor little Katie (and you too Tabby). Am not looking forward to Cameron's first cold. Was bad enough yesterday arvo when he was out of sorts after waking from his nap. A bit warm after his needles and the leg that got 2 needles came up in a big red lump and was bothering him so he got some baby panadol for the first time. First time anything except milk into his mouth and he was a bit stunned. Shoved a dummy in straight after to force him to suck it down. Put him to bed early at 6.30pm for a good sleep through to 3am when he woke up giggling. Lucky a bit of booby convinced him it was still sleep time!

On the topic of men...in the early days DH was so hands on with C that I actually felt that he knew best & kept asking him what he thought I should do. Has evened out quite nicely now though and I think we make a great team but I do find that a bit of positive reinforcement helps "thanks for watching C for the morning, it made it so much easier to do our weekly shop" "you do such a good job of giving C his bath". It goes both ways though and he is always telling me what a great job I am doing, especially when it feels like I'm not. I know it sounds corny but communication is the key. If we are not sure what approach to take with something he's happy for me make the final decision since I'm the one at home with C all day but we always discuss it (or at least I try and explain it to him during a ad break!). That said Mousebrown, I do find I try and give DH a bit of prewarning as well where possible or else he will be on the lounge with beer in hand at 6pm instead of running C's bath!

[Flicka]

Hey Tabby - I think Hels might have posted in the Feb mums thread sometime today as I think she is friendly with some of the feb mums in Melbourne.

Cat - Very good point regarding communication. I agree you have to praise the man in your life (a bit like one of the kids) just so he remembers he is needed. I do the same with my DH. As for getting him to help out - he is more than happy to do stuff with the kids or some housework but he is just so SLOW......he cooked dinner on mothers day and it was packet mix just add chicken one. Well, dinner was almost ready (finally) and I said "Have you forgotten to cook the rice?" Whoops!!!

Just my 2 cents....

[Hels*Bels]

Hi everyone

Just had 4 pages of posts to catch up on! I am still around, thanks for asking after me Tabby :) .

The transition to the cot has been a success so far :smiliedance: . R goes to bed about 10pm and wakes around 8am and I only have to re-settle him on average once during the night now. He is also taking his daytime sleeps in the portacot and sometimes he is happy just to play in it by himself. We still seem to have a screaming session at some point during the day, so it's making it hard to go out still. I hope he will grow out of it soon too :fingerscrossed: .

I notice that a few of you have started some solids or are just starting them. R will be 4 mths old on friday, he weighs about 7kgs now and he's wanting to be fed about every 3 hours in the day and is taking a minimum of 200mls. I think he could be ready for some rice cereal in the morning. What do the rest of you think about this? Also, would I give it to him instead of a bottle or aswell as? Sorry I am a bit niave to all this, it's a whole new chapter I will have to learn about lol.

Tabby - I hope both you and K are feeling a bit better now? First Defence is a nasal spray which is supposed to kill the bacteria in the back of the throat and stops it developing into anything worse. It's available in chemists and you use it at the first sign of a cold coming. Anyone tried it yet?

Finalcountdown - I hope you don't mind me giving my opinion re your embryo situation? this is a subject very close to my heart.
I am in favour of the embryo donation, as you probably know R is the result of a sperm donor so I see this from the recipients point of view. Without the help of a donor we would be childless so it's such a special thing for anyone to be able to help others in this way. I look at R every day and think of how lucky we are to have had him.
I know that there are many other childless couples out there who would give a child of yours such a loving home and he/she would bring so much joy and love into their lives.
If you are unsure then please go into the egg/embryo donation section in this forum and have a read of some of the stories and profiles of the couples who are looking for donors.
I know it's not an easy decision and you can only follow your heart and do what feels right :hugs:

Charis - I am managing the PND quite well, thanks for asking. I still have good days and bad days but over all things are good.

Hope all mums and bubs are well, sorry to anyone I have missed.