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Cats&Kid

17-05-2007, 21:13

I've just been making a list for myself with all the usernames, our real names and our bubs name and ive counted 33 so far!
I keep a little print out pinned up in my office so i know who im talking too and what there bubb's name is.(the ones born in feb atleast).
Has anyone herd from Cats&kids? I looked up all her old posts and they have all been locked.....

Great idea with the list mumslilspunk - thanks for remembering me.

Hi all, I am here though MIA again. Can't believe it's almost a month since my last post or logging in so please forgive me for not knowing what every one is up too - I promise to get my act together once Matthew & I have sorted out our feeding/sleeping issues. Was only managing 2 hours sleep for quite a few weeks - thankfully getting 4 hours now but still feel shattered and have succumbed to a cold. Very worried Matthew might catch it - anybody had to cope with this yet who could pass on some tips on what to do for him?

Also, does anyone's bubs have nightmares/bad dreams? Matthew has one a week almost - the ECHC Nurse hadn't heard of anyone elses bub having them. Wondering if he's hearing/watching too much tv...any advice?

Hope everyone is well and the bubs begin sleeping better. :wave:

young_mummie07

17-05-2007, 21:27

Hi all i just found the chat room for feb mums but can't chat is it for members only????:confused:

Sassi

17-05-2007, 21:47

Hi All, you are probably chatting still but I gotta go to bed

Penny - How are you feeling? Hope your neck is better. I have updated the 'gatherings' thread.. I forgot that it even existed (my mind is mush!!) How is being back at work, have you started at your old hospy yet?

Lmenz - Zane is a shocking day sleeper also, he will literally only sleep if we go out somewhere (some car time) and a couple of 15 min catnaps....DH thinks it is fine and I should spend the whole day holding him.

Cats - Glad all went well with the ECHN today!! Here's to getting a bit more sleep hey!!

SHelby - Have fun at your nanna's b'day.

Good Night all, hope you sleep tight and hopefully all night (almost rhymes!!)

S XOXO

juzzy

17-05-2007, 22:04

Thanks or the chat guys, always a pleasure!

Went shopping today and bought some cool clothes for Cassi from Cotton On Kids and Target. Felt great to get out of the house as it doesnt seem to happen very often these days.

I origianlly went out to buy some new jeans for me but needless to day that didnt happen. Did get some nice new shoes (shhh dont tell DP...)

DP told me today that if i come home with new shoes that i will have the throw 3 pairs out for every pair i buy!!! WTH!!

Anyway, bed time for me

Nina79

17-05-2007, 22:28

Nina, how long does Ryan sleep at night?

The last two nights Jack has started waking 40 minutes after he goes down for the night crying out for his dummy....

I'm about to crack...he's getting worse each day!

Oh Lauren, my heart goes out to you. :hugs:

In the past week, Ryan has stretched his night sleeps so now he goes down by 9:30/10pm and doesn't wake again til 7am. He was only going til 5am 10 days ago but has slowly gone longer since then.

There's really no rhyme nor reason to these babies, is there? They just do their own thing. Hang in there...

bAaM

17-05-2007, 22:42

Hi guys
Thanks heaps for the chat tonight i think it was a great idea to have it.

I do feel a connection with all of you. We have gone through so much already and my goal is to now try to meet everyone.
We are going to melb at the end of the year so i would love to me the melb girls.

I also enjoyed our msn chat the other night penny hels mon and juz so if any one else wants to add me let me know.

I went shopping as well today and also got th kids some lovely clothes from Target They have the cutest stuff there.
I have started putting M in cloth nappies at home as posies are getting to expencive when DS was born they where so much cheaper.

I'm off to bed now i will catch up later.
Night Night

Alicia
xxxxx

blubber

17-05-2007, 23:20

i think everyone has gone to bed but night night, i am going to bed to get a B@T. Am i allowed to say that... and please do not judge me!!!

my_lot

18-05-2007, 06:15

get a bat? what on earth is that?

and leashie- good on ya! are you using terry flats? somedays i use the mcn and flats all day and only use a sposie at night... we still have the same box of sposies going from when i opened them about 5 weeks ago...so i can see how much it saves on sposies..

the chat was great fun last night. i fed eli at 12 and thought id get at least 4-5 hours out of him (after i spoon fed him formula after the last b/feed)

but nope here i am awake at 7am- after being woken for the 4th time!

im going to be a zombie by 10am!

the pup slept in his new little bed. it was only $4 from the cheapo shop. what a great buy...he stayed next to my bed there all night and didnt yelp or cry once!

harleyq

18-05-2007, 06:53

Squiggles - i hope you are feeling better now - that sounds absolutely horrible - particularly as you were all alone!! :hugs: mumslilspunks - thats a great idea about the list, care to share???
Lauren - :hugs: what is going on??? Jack used to be so good! Coen is all over the place, he has been really difficult to get down of a night time, and some days goes down really well during the day, but just when l think l have it all figured out - it changes... like last night, he didn't wake until 4.30 - l was so wrapped... but then... he didn't go back to sleep until 7, we tried a few times but the wind just kept getting him up...

online chats - bugger, l missed it again...hey gals can we give a bit more notice on these things... or the regular times like was suggested the other day - l would love to join in -

Anyway off for some shopping today... wish me luck!!!

juzzy

18-05-2007, 07:22

hmm have been up since 7am.... Thought Cassisy would sleep for longer after going to bed late last night but no....

Now that i am up and dressed, shes asleep in my bed! How unfair is that! I should be asleep in my bed!

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mumslilspunks

18-05-2007, 07:28

Morning ladies,
Purplebird- Woohoo love your avatar!!:yelclap:
Blubber- So did you DTD ( do the deed)?:D
Harleyq- I will share the list once i get back from Melb.
Cats&kids- Glad to see you back. My heart goes out to you. Billy was a nightmare but he's just started to sleep better of a night.
Sorry lovelys but not many personals im getting ready to leave for Melb today. We head down to mil's and then dh and i leave sat morning for our weekend away.:smiliedance: I am so looking forward to it. But the packing im not. I have a station wagon and its FULL.
I should have planned it better and stayed down a couple extra days and we could have organisede a meet? Next time..
I hope you all have a lovely weekend and i know ill have quite a few pages to catch up on when i get back.:wave:
Juzzy-What a little angel! Jump back in bed i say!!

Squiggles

18-05-2007, 07:33

Morning,

How fun was chat last night, some pretty funny moments!!! I really enjoyed it - Thanks everyone. It was especially nice to have company while Dh is away... I didn't feel so cut off from the world out here in the middle of no where last night.

I was thinking about going shopping today. Have to get something nice to wear to this function/ dinner in Melb next week. The invitation states that the dress is "after 5" I thought that was pretty funny as after 5 to me is Trackies and Ugg boots :laughing::o I really can't be bothered, I hate formal gear. I have quite a few nice dresses but since having Connor the Ol body just doesn't seem to squeeze into them, Im sure my obsession with chocolate hasn't helped either.

Lauren - hope you have a better day with Jack today. Have been thinking about you this morning - I think Tegan's suggestion of trying to find a sleep therapist could be a good idea. There is one that I know of in SA but not sure about over there. I might ask around and see if anyone knows of anyone for you.

Squiggles

18-05-2007, 07:34

Oh I forgot - you all Ok today Ren? We missed you last night

harleyq

18-05-2007, 07:37

Lauren - Tweedle is a sleep school here in Melbourne - (Melbourne Parenting Centre) - you could give them a call and see what they have to say if you are getting really desperate!

LMenz

18-05-2007, 07:37

Thanks for the chat last night Ladies I'm soo glad I popped on, it was just what I needed. Nothing like a bit of Biatchiness to make me feel better :)

BIG Thanks for all the suggestions with Jack's sleeping...I'm gonna try some new things this week and see how we go. DH is taking a week off soon as I'm just soo tired and running out of patience fast. Plus DH is never home. He's gone in the morning at 7am and the earliest he is home is 6.30...by that time Jack's already asleep. He has asked me to keep him up longer but that would mean my day would be that much longer.

Jack's day sleeps have been like this since he was 8 weeks.....as each week goes by he just gets worse and worse. His nights are still ok (6.30-3.30 then 6.30) but the last few nights he's been unsettled for the first hour. He will often wake at 12.30 just to be re-wrapped

If we could just get past him waking after 40 minutes during I think I could manage a bit better (and he could too) The worst bit is he never cried much as a newborn, he was always so placid. I'm finding it pretty distressing that he's so unhappy.....my mum is coming to help a bit today.

Gosh that turned into a bit of a whinge :o Sorry!

my_lot - Does Eli sleep better after having formula?

Juz - I love cotton on for kids...I've bought Jack quiet a bit of stuff from their lately. They have some great slogan tee's. I got him a onsie the other day with skulls and crossbones all over it...he looks really cute when he wears it!

Purplebird - Love the avatar! Well Done!

Sandy - Have fun shopping! We should go together one day soon. I think it was decided the other day Tuesday and Thursday would be our regular nights for chatting. Someone correct me if I'm wrong

LMenz

18-05-2007, 07:43

Lauren - hope you have a better day with Jack today. Have been thinking about you this morning - I think Tegan's suggestion of trying to find a sleep therapist could be a good idea. There is one that I know of in SA but not sure about over there. I might ask around and see if anyone knows of anyone for you.

Thanks Jen, that would be great! I'm definately going to look into it

Lauren - Tweedle is a sleep school here in Melbourne - (Melbourne Parenting Centre) - you could give them a call and see what they have to say if you are getting really desperate!

The MCHN told me about Tweedle but there is a 10 week wait to get in...I also heard it does controlled crying.....I don't think I could cope with it

EskimoMumma

18-05-2007, 07:45

There are also no cry sleep solutions. ALong with recommending routines and trying to stick to it. Honestly, Hes going to grow out of this.

LMenz

18-05-2007, 07:53

There are also no cry sleep solutions. ALong with recommending routines and trying to stick to it. Honestly, Hes going to grow out of this.

When he cries after I put him down I go in and pat him until he's quiet then leave the room...he just cries again until I go back in.

Yesterday I sat next to his cot for an hour and he still wouldn't sleep just kept turing his head around to check I was still there. When I pick him up he stops crying but cries again when I put him down.

ATM I can't hold him for long...my back is giving me lots of trouble. I can't wear a sling as I end up with monster headaches.

About what age do they grow out of it EM?

EskimoMumma

18-05-2007, 07:58

Hmm..Mary went through a stage like that..I call it the 'omg dont you dare leave the room now that my eyesight is stronger and i dont recognise anyone but you' stage. heh

I think what your doing is fantastic, with the patting. Once he is quiet, stay there next to the cot(bring a chair in) and maybe leave your hand on him so he still feels safe and secure. If he still acts up, pat again. Usually this can take anywhere between 30minutes to over an hour(hence the chair..) and hopefully the next week, or even enxt few nights he wont need the continuelly patting and slowly try patting it before he fall asleep like you are now so he is familiar with this 'routine' and associates it with sleep.

All good routines take atleast a week or more to get into ..(usually teething stuffs it up)

I wish you the best of luck with this I do..It is sooo hard, god knows the amount of nights i spent in my room crying, trying not to go crazy with mary hollering away and i had no clue how to get her to sleep..

I can ask david for his input too as Mary use to only settle for him.

LMenz

18-05-2007, 08:09

Thanks for the suggestions EM.....I guess I'll just have to go with it

Can't send him back!

Anyway enough about that...don't want to bog the thread down

EskimoMumma

18-05-2007, 08:14

hey your not bringing it down., I wish there was an easy solution but someti,es there isnt. Good luck tho!

juzzy

18-05-2007, 08:14

Lauren i really feel for you.

IMO every baby is different and it is really just a case of finding something that works for you. Looks like that hasnt happened as yet but it is good that you are going to persist by going to a sleep school or something similar.

I know that there is a council run sleep and settling course run by the Mornington Peninsula shire down this way, so maybe there is something similar where you are? Or was that the one you were saying has a 10 week wait? Maybe try going to a different area where they are run?

my_lot

18-05-2007, 08:21

lauren- nope he didnt sleep any better after it.

i only mixed 50 ml (karicare soy) and then i spoon fed it to him. he probably got half i didnt look when i chucked it...im thinking next time i will add a little farax.

he seems to like taking the milk from a spoon. he still wont take a teat. he doesnt spit it out from the spoon. which id funny cos my last one was still spitting food at 7-8 months and was fully b/fed no solids til 8 months!

so i think i will thicken it a little..see what happens. i gave him a taste of banana the other day. just on the tip of my finger...and after i got the lemon face he was smiling at me and and he didnt spit it.

***dp vent comin**

he is being a right b@stard. he didnt go to work this morning but drove off so i rang him and asked where he was. he was sitting outside the DRs waiting for it to open to get an apt (why not ring?) i said it would be a help if i could put eli to bed and him be here so i could drive the others to schools- so when would he be back. he said i shouldnt ask that of him while hes sick! after i told him what i thought of that he hung up on me. then came home. he got an apt for later. so i put eli to bed and left for the schools and yelled out as i was going for him to open the back door for the pup to go out. he told me it was my dog and my job.
when i got home i had it out with him. he said he would expect me to look after him and give him a break while he is sick. he said he couldnt believe that i am not more caring this is the first time hes been this sick (it is) and im expecting him to do things for the kids ect when he shoudl do nothing but sleep and rest to get better"..
i told him he left me to do everything while i was sick with MS each and every time and then after i our FOURTH baby left me to do everything for the kids and a newborn 24 hours after giving birth! maybe if hed have helped me when i needed it i wouldnt be so b!tchy about it now. he said "you "JUst" had a baby you were not sick!"

now hes ranting at me that he doesnt want to spend the rest of his life with someone so uncaring...that he wont forget me doing this and next time im unwell it will be remembered. ffs i have his flu right now ive been sick with it since the weekend!

maybe i should ask him to bd so he knows what its like to be nagged for that when you least feel like it!

why are men so rotton when theyre sick.

JoJoMart

18-05-2007, 08:24

LMenz - you are not alone. Liam has been unsettled the last couple of days. Last night we put him down at 7pm (usual time) he was tired but it took an hour to settle him to sleep. During the day he will cat nap in the morning and if I'm lucky sleep from 12noon to 2pm in the afternoon. Yesterday he didn't sleep that long though so I was buggered. The MCHN said to us at mothers group the other day you don't use controlled crying techniques until baby is at least 6 months old, plus I think there's pros and cons to using that technique from what I've read, so I don't blame you for not wanting to do it!

Liam also manages to wriggle around in his cot during the night and the other night I found him upside down with his head towards the bottom of the cot and all his blankies off!

Apparently even bubs who are in a routine can have unsettled times and just when you think they are in a routine it can change! I've noticed this with Liam too.

Purplebird - love the pic of Eloise! Very cute!

Is everyone's bub cooing and babbling away? It's so cute! Liam and I had a 'conversation' this morning.......I would say 'oh oh' and he would coo back to me like he was repeating it!

Roopee

18-05-2007, 08:49

MY-lot-tell him to go to mummies if he wants to be pampered. Funny isn't it? We get sick and they dont even notice-they get sick and its death is imminent.
Hmmm here's an idea! While he is sleeping-shove a football up his butt- tell him to push it out, give it a cuddle, say oh how beautiful,-and then as soon as he has done that-waltz out the door and tell him to have a great day getting the kids organised!:yes:
Seriously- how nice would it be to have their lives!

Lauren- sorry your having trouble with Jacks sleeping. It sounds like he is stirring when he gets into the REM sleep and cant drift back off on his own. I dont have any advice though:rolleyes: coz your doing everything that i would be doing anyway. SORRY!

LMenz

18-05-2007, 09:33

You won't believe it!! I can hardly believe it myself!!

Jack woke after 40 minutes, I played with him for a bit then wrapped him in his pram and stuck him next to the dryer.... HE'S ASLEEP!!

:yelclap: :yelclap: :yelclap: Thank you to whoever recommended it - sorry I can't remember who it was

Butterflymumma

18-05-2007, 11:06

:smiliedance: Yay LMENZ!!! thats fantastic!!!

Thanks for the chat last night girls, it was great!! Made me laugh a lot which is what i needed!!

Kay- sorry to hear your DP is saying those things. Tanya put it perfectly,

"We get sick and they dont even notice-they get sick and its death is imminent"

Men are just sooks, you are in the right!!

Lillyana is going through her clingy stage at the moment, she just wants to be held all the time...just by me! its really cute and all, but gets tiring trying to make her smile and laugh when i run out of ideas!!!

Well lovely ladies im off again,

Will chat with you all next Tuesday in chat lol should be fun!

If anyone has Msn, and you wanna chat, Pm your email and i will add you!

Take Care xx

juzzy

18-05-2007, 11:42

tegan - sorry i missed you on msn, LOL i was out doing some grocery shopping! catch u next time!

JoJoMart

18-05-2007, 12:01

Lauren - Fantastic :smiliedance: so glad that Jack's now asleep........now I just have to get Liam back to sleep..........he just woke up!

Butterflymumma - doesn't it get tiring carrying around bubs all the time! Liam loves being held and will only last a short while in his rocker....so I always need to pick him up. I've heard that boys are generally more clingy than girls though??

Roopee - love ya comment 'shove a football up his butt' That would fix him!

harleyq

18-05-2007, 13:22

My_Lot - your DH does need a dose of reality... Roopee's advice seems bang on the mark in my opinion!!!

Lauren - So glad Jack has settled for you, was going to give you a call and see if you wanted to catch up for a coffee (blow off some steam) etc. feel free to call up if you do...

Went shopping today, Coen got two pieces of clothing, l got a birthday present for my bf's daughter (tomorrow) and l bought a pair of sexy high heels for myself (l couldn't resist, buy two pairs and get the second one half price!!) When l am going to wear them given my recent accessory (I am talking about Coen here)... but they are cute!!! (p.s. Diana Ferrari at DFO at Essendon airport has buy two pairs 2nd pair for 50% -- good deal)!!!

Coen is doing pretty well - he's been having a lot of 10 minute feeds lately - l was getting a bit worried but then he also had two feeds for about 40 minutes (which is usual time) - l think it is just difficult for him right now cos he has a blocked nose! Coen still only sleeps for 40 minutes at a time and is still waking up at about 5am with wind... we've found putting a luke warm heat bag on his belly helps settle him (for any other mums who are also having this problem)... :smiliedance: I just resettled my 40 minute baby for another sleep... so hopefully that will buy me another 40 minutes!!!

Jo - Yeah Coen is cooing (when he feels like it) in response to conversation -- it is absolutely adorable isn't it?

Purplebird

18-05-2007, 13:25

:smiliedance: Yay Lauren! Hope you didn't jinx it..Eloise just woke up and gave me her "how DARE you put me down!" look. Like you, I won't do controlled crying so I'm starting to wonder how we will go next week. I don't want to take the place of some more desperate parents. Think I will call them and see what they say...

My lot - Men are just pathetic, but, really, I'm sure his particular flu is worse than childbirth :rolleyes:

JoJo - hope Liam has settled for you.

I've had a lovely spend up today at the Big Softies sale - loadsa bargains! And I got my sparkly fairy Happy Heiny in the post today - it has glitter on it, sooo fit for a princess! Also just went nuts on Ebay buying toys. Oh dear, don't think DH will be too happy with me. Ha ha - he can suck it up :laughing:

I think we may be starting to hit the monster 4 month growth spurt a bit early. At least i hope that's what it is and that it will pass soon, otherwise my nipples will drop off. She has just been feeding and feeding day and night. I would just love 4 hours of sleep in a row - i'm sure that's not too much to ask?

harleyq

18-05-2007, 13:47

SLEEP & SETTLING SEMINAR

The Australian Breastfeeding Association
presents

HELPING YOUR BABY TO SLEEP
A seminar for parents and health professionals

Speakers

Pinky McKay
Parenting expert and author of ‘Sleeping Like a Baby’ and ‘100 Ways to Calm
the Crying’

Anni Gethin
Parenting writer and author of ‘Helping Your Baby to Sleep – Why Gentle
Techniques Work Best’

The speakers present important research into babies' emotional and brain
development and offer gentle sleep techniques that take into account a
baby's natural sleep habits. They present practical alternatives to
restrictive techniques such as 'controlled crying' and expose the common
myths that parents are presented with about babies and sleep.
Wednesday 30th May, 12:30pm-3:30pm
Where: Wyndham Leisure and Events Centre, Community Rooms, 80 –82 Derrimut
Road, Hoppers Crossing

Cost: $30 , including refreshments

I am going to attend this!!! Is anybody interested in making an afternoon of it??? Meet fo rthe seminar and then perhaps go for a coffee at Werribee Plaza (good shopping)!!!

PM me if your interested... l will co-ordinate!!!

SuperFrog

18-05-2007, 13:56

Hey, that's not far from me. I probably won't go to the seminar but coffee afterwards sounds great. PM me a plan and I'll be there!

Well I've got about 20 people arriving for a bbq around 6pm, and Liam is having one of his no-sleep days. Just feeding him at the moment. Hopefully he will settle after this so I can get some stuff done. Need to marinade meats, do salads, clean the bathroom and loo, tidy up a bit, sweep, vacuum. :eek: I don't think all of this is going to get done somehow!!

Gotta move my butt.

harleyq

18-05-2007, 14:00

Oh Mon - wow what a lot to take on -- Liam... do you hear me, sleep for mummy... ppppllllleeeaasssseee!!! (sending thorugh the vibes for you)!!
Will keep you informed re. the 30th!

my_lot

18-05-2007, 14:06

hannah- that HH nap sounds so cute. i have the pink,black and white cows for my boy! have a look at his cute lil toosh in it. its in my profile! that naps not going to fit for much longer. thats the prob with HH - they are sized!

Purplebird

18-05-2007, 15:13

My Lot - had a look at your lovely pictures and ur right, that is one extremely cute MCN tooshi you have on your little man! As the weather is bad this arvo i stayed in and continued my shopping spree online - the new rainforest Berry Plush (I see you have the deep blue one) is winging its way to me :)

Sandy - would love to come to the thing on 30th. Dare I risk the journey??! I will have a think and pm you about it.

Mon - hope your preparations are going wel. You sound like you've got heaps to do - enjoy your barbie.

blubber

18-05-2007, 16:10

[quote=my_lot;1471855]get a bat? what on earth is that?

Well i havn't thought of it that way before!!

[quote=mumslilspunks;1472017]Morning ladies,
Blubber- So did you DTD ( do the deed)?:D

..and Ren yes the deed was done!!!

HAd a great time in chat last night, certainly worth staying up for. There was so much going one at times it was mayhem. Good for the mind though, can get a little stale in motherland!!

Men in General.. thankfully my DH is about the only male i know that doesn't sook and make life difficult when he is sick. In no way want to make you all feel worse but i do sympathise greatly. Let alone sick or otherwise we should never be treated or spoken too like that. When i here these things I really fire up, wether it is close to home or not i just want to walk through their door and give 'em a good slap around the ears, oh and elsewhere too.
Women in society cop enough B*****T about expecations it should be a much more even world at home. Everyone, hang in there if your other halves are not sharing the load.

So Friday night in baby world what are we all up too!!

SuperFrog

18-05-2007, 16:26

I'm back again, feeding Liam yet again. He slept for about 20 minutes... and that was it! One of the builder's turned up and was making so much noise that I couldn't stay in that part of the house, so Liam had his mini-sleep on my bed.

BBQ preparations aren't going too well. I still need to make a green salad, cut up some chicken, slice some onions, put the vacuum away, find some more chairs and a table. Ahhhhhh :eek:

But I did manage to vacuum, clean the bathroom enough to get away with it, marinade steak, make a potato salad, tidy the stuff on the dining table and coffee table, and chill some drinks.

Oh well, I'm sure I can recruiit some helpers when people start arriving.

As much as I like breastfeeding, it is times like this that are sooo frustrating. I just have to sit here and keep making my mental to-do list longer!

And Liam isn't feeding too well either. I hope it is just because he is over-tired. Could be an "interesting" night!

Butterflymumma

18-05-2007, 17:41

Hello again,

What am i doing on a friday night in motherland?? Well...a big fat nothing :sleeping: thats okay about tonight, im really tired anyway, but darn it im in need of a night out with the girls, get glammed up and have a dance!! :smiliedance:

trouble is all of my friends are going out tommorrow night, but they've already made plans with other friends and... ahem....im not invited.. :(

Perhaps the new mother will cramp their style?? anyway, i never was into crashing everyone elses plans...looks like its a date with the TV again tommorrow night... Borrr-ing

Sorry Rant over :ecomcity:

Take Care xx

juzzy

18-05-2007, 18:01

LOL tegan i know what that is like. Id love to go out with the girls for one night, even just a few hours...

Alas no... im at home... making dinner... for an ungrateful partner who called to tell me that he will be home late even though i told him earlier in the day i was making a ROAST DINNER and to be home EARLY!!

Spent the whole afternoon preparing and cooking and now its going to go to waste. Last time i ever make a nice meal for him...

Shame you aren't nearby.... id invite you over! LOL

We could be lonely and bored together! At least or bubbas could entertain each other!

my_lot

18-05-2007, 18:03

hannah - yes i have the blue berry plush in a size M and a tiger one too but its a small and just about too small!

im sure i got the lights and rain ones too befor i went on hols. ill have to check my credit card statement.

they were all sold out and had a huge wait. what website are you looking at ((dont post the link youll get infracted!))

i love the berry plush. they would have to be my fave show off nappy. i had him in that and a tee to go out a few times and i love the feel of them while im holding him...

do you have any green kids? did you see their new prints? i will probably get an ergo from their website and i really love their new "turtles" nap.

i just got a hugabub but its very hot for him when i walk along the beach and dp wants to babywear on his back not front. so ill keep it for me for short trips and get a ergo for walking and dp to use.

got to go get my kids ready for bed so they can watch BB friday night games.

dp is still sick. i told him i really really really want to bd and it wont take long and it will make him feel so good and all the other bullshat he gives me after ive said no LOL and he said he cant hes weally weally sick poor baby!

karma is what it is.

juzzy

18-05-2007, 18:07

dp is still sick. i told him i really really really want to bd and it wont take long and it will make him feel so good and all the other bullshat he gives me after ive said no LOL and he said he cant hes weally weally sick poor baby!

karma is what it is.

LOL love it... thats fantastic

harleyq

18-05-2007, 18:19

Your a legend Mon - managing to do all that and look after Liam... Coen is also going through a funny feeding period... l am putting it down to a blocked nose ... but l am not sure...
butterflymama / juzzy - if its any consolation l will be at home watching tv tonight too, DH will be with me ... but its not too exciting!!!

my_lot - l love it!!! Keep 'em coming, l'm taking notes!!!

shelby

18-05-2007, 18:52

Hello again,

What am i doing on a friday night in motherland?? Well...a big fat nothing thats okay about tonight, im really tired anyway, but darn it im in need of a night out with the girls, get glammed up and have a dance!!

trouble is all of my friends are going out tommorrow night, but they've already made plans with other friends and... ahem....im not invited..

Perhaps the new mother will cramp their style?? anyway, i never was into crashing everyone elses plans...looks like its a date with the TV again tommorrow night... Borrr-ing

Sorry Rant over

Take Care xx

I feel for you hon. I have felt like this too at times that my friends are all going out and enjoying their kid-free lives and it is hard when you feel left out. Downright depressing at times! I have been meaning to post - DF has been working days and nights this week and it has given me a little taste of what it would be like to be a single mum and what an amazing job you do, I am absolutely buggered and yet you do this every day of every week! I know its hard but think you cope amazingly well considering your age and can understand how hard it must be when you are now living a much more mature life than your friends. feel free to whinge here anytime.

mylot - I just want to do this :banghead: to your DP. I mean, seriously, "JUST" had a baby? When was the last time YOU got to take a sick day and got paid to put your feet up? I was just fuming when I read your post. I swear, you are such a fantastic mum and partner and your DPdoesnt know how lucky he is!!!!

and juz....sounds like you are bing neglected a bit atm. I would be seriously peeved if I had gone to all that effort also. I really hope he wakes up to himself soon!

Sorry I missed out on chat last night - my PC was playing up. Looking forward to the next one soon.

Lauren - :hugs: to you. you must be so exhausted. It sounds like you are doing all the right things. Has your day been any better today? I remember Olivia going through stages where I thought I was going to return her to the hospital and ask for a refund, she was driving me nuts with not sleeping. She is better now and it will get better for you. Hope you get some help and relief and SLEEP soon. Do you think it might be worth taking him to a GP or paed to rule out anything medically wrong?

CATSNKIDS - iT was only the other day when we met up that I realised when you said you are only getting 2-4 hours sleep you meant total - not 2-4 hour blocks at night, is that right? That is awful, and is seriously not good for Matt or for your mental health. Please please please go see a doc or book into a sleep centre as that is just not right and you both need to get more sleep than that to be able to function!!!

Anyway I am a little tired so will finish off before I start rambling and not making sense!! Thank god my little cherub has been good for me this week, although she did put on anohter stellar performance at mothers group today. Im seriously starting to think mine is the only problem child - all the other bebies were perfectly behaved and everyone goes around the room saying how lucky they are that they have such a good baby who sleeps and feeds perfectly and its all so easy....I just want to smack them! I hope they are all lying....either that or maybe they will swap babies for a while :yes: (just kidding)

Have a great weekend everyone :wave:

juzzy

18-05-2007, 18:57

and juz....sounds like you are bing neglected a bit atm. I would be seriously peeved if I had gone to all that effort also. I really hope he wakes up to himself soon!

Im seriously starting to think mine is the only problem child - all the other bebies were perfectly behaved and everyone goes around the room saying how lucky they are that they have such a good baby who sleeps and feeds perfectly and its all so easy....I just want to smack them! I hope they are all lying....either that or maybe they will swap babies for a while :yes: (just kidding)

thanks, ive already let DP know that i am not impressed. He was just leaving the city when i was serving dinner (We live about an hour from the city) so needless to say his dinner is going to be well and truely cold by then... will i care when he walks in the door and says his dinner is cold? NOPE.

Oh and about ur mothers group... they were probably all lying, especially if they were first time mums. My mothers group was like that, thats why i stopped going. I felt so inferior to them

mummy2oceana

18-05-2007, 19:15

thanks, ive already let DP know that i am not impressed. He was just leaving the city when i was serving dinner (We live about an hour from the city) so needless to say his dinner is going to be well and truely cold by then... will i care when he walks in the door and says his dinner is cold? NOPE.

Oh and about ur mothers group... they were probably all lying, especially if they were first time mums. My mothers group was like that, thats why i stopped going. I felt so inferior to them

I agree... I remember going to mothers group after I had Oceana, and it was this big competition of who could do things first!! It was rediculous and petty, so I left. I really wasn't going to waste my time with liars, I was having a hard time with sleeping issues with Oceana and the lies was the last thing I needed to hear LOL. I havent even attempted to go to one with Sienna LMAO and I wont be either

Do you have any friends with bubbies that you can catch up with? that way your still socialising but not with all the dramas and lies?

my_lot

18-05-2007, 19:26

juzzy- its why i didnt go to mums group with Eli. its bad enough just going to the baby health clinic..

i was there last week with Eli (and no other kids) and one lady with a 20 week old (ffs who says 20 weeks??) so the kid is 5 months old and another older mum whos bub is tiny and during the chat says he was 2 months premmy but is 10 weeks...and my fatty is the same size as the 5 month old. ha ha.

so Eli puked all down his front and this mum (with 5 month old) says "oh ive got wet wipes ill give you one" i said "no thanks its ok the shirts had it now anyway." so i wiped what was on his mouth with the bottom of his shirt and took it off and left him in the singlet- i was about to do a bare weight anyway...she says "oh youve got no change of clothes for him? oh its early days yet-youll learn really quickly to pack heaps of clothes to go anywhere- i have to take it all but kitchen sink cos my son vomits a lot but ive been doing this for 20 weeks now." he he he ***laugh***

i said oh thats good, im so glad youve got it down pat. ive got 4 kids, my eldest is ten and this one here is my fourth child with reflux, maybe one day ill pack his bag right...i got up took his pants off weighed him and dressed him, all while i was standing near the table and she was just looking at me...hhhmm. she will learn not to judge a mum by how many kids are hanging off her at the time...

the other mum and i had a chat about our prems both coming same weeks early and both c-sect after 2 v/births.

i think miss 20 week old was feeling a little left out then...she didnt say another word to me the whole time i was there.

i often get stopped by people at the shops, mainly old ducks, and they say hello looking at the baby and then ds and say things like "oh two boys? youll have to try for a girl next" or "is he the only one" "is this the first dear" and when i answer that he is the fourth i get the look of shock and "oh 4!"...but i find that the mums in that baby clinic with one little bub always look at me when i say 4, like ive just said 40 not 4.

i guess when i was a young mumma with just one i probably though of 4 as crazy! LOL...but as they each came i wanted another...id love one more now come to think of it.

shelby

18-05-2007, 19:41

I agree... I remember going to mothers group after I had Oceana, and it was this big competition of who could do things first!! It was rediculous and petty, so I left. I really wasn't going to waste my time with liars, I was having a hard time with sleeping issues with Oceana and the lies was the last thing I needed to hear LOL. I havent even attempted to go to one with Sienna LMAO and I wont be either

Do you have any friends with bubbies that you can catch up with? that way your still socialising but not with all the dramas and lies?

Thanks for your reassurance juzzy and m2o - I dont understand why we cant just be honest with each other??!!! I would rather be honest about my experience as a mum and say that it sucks sometimes and I dont always have an easy baby and its not always this perfect huggies ad so that others a) are more prepared when they do have kids and b) dont feel bad or ashamed for having a hard time also. I just think its ridiculous that you cant admit that you are struggling.

I have to say I am not loving my mothers group so far, I enjoyed meeting up with the sydney bubhub girls more! I dont have any close friends with bubs, so will persevere for a bit and hope it gets better.

juzzy- its why i didnt go to mums group with Eli. its bad enough just going to the baby health clinic..

so Eli puked all down his front and this mum (with 5 month old) says "oh ive got wet wipes ill give you one" i said "no thanks its ok the shirts had it now anyway." so i wiped what was on his mouth with the bottom of his shirt and took it off and left him in the singlet- i was about to do a bare weight anyway...she says "oh youve got no change of clothes for him? oh its early days yet-youll learn really quickly to pack heaps of clothes to go anywhere- i have to take it all but kitchen sink cos my son vomits a lot but ive been doing this for 20 weeks now." he he he ***laugh***

i said oh thats good, im so glad youve got it down pat. ive got 4 kids, my eldest is ten and this one here is my fourth child with reflux, maybe one day ill pack his bag right...i got up took his pants off weighed him and dressed him, all while i was standing near the table and she was just looking at me...hhhmm. she will learn not to judge a mum by how many kids are hanging off her at the time...

i guess when i was a young mumma with just one i probably though of 4 as crazy! LOL...but as they each came i wanted another...id love one more now come to think of it.

Thats hilarious mylot, you really put her in her place and good for you. I cant believe how patronising she was!! I am so amazed that after having 4 kids + a puppy + another adult child (your DP at the moment) you say you could still have another - thats awesome and you really inspire me. I see how hard my BIL and SIL do it with 3 kids under 4, one who is autistic and it makes me not want to have anymore! So its nice hearing you say that.

Glad Im not the only bored one on a Fri night!!

LMenz

18-05-2007, 19:48

Well Jack only slept for 40 minutes in front of the dryer....BUT at least he slept!! Today was much better! Don't know if that's cos mum was here?? He never seems as bad when theirs someone else around. Anyway he had 4 x 40 minute sleeps today and seemed too cope ok...I think I have to accept he may never sleep for longer than that during the day

I think he has a cold too....He's been coughing a bit. No blocked or runny nose (yet) Sandy - Does Coen have a cold too? Thanks for the offer of coffee I definately would have taken you up on it today if mum wasn't here. Don't worry too much about Coen having 10 minute feeds..they become so much more efficient at draining the breast as they get older.

Mon - I hope your BBQ went well....When Jack's overtired and won't feed well I feed him in the dark....seems to work. He gets too distracted otherwise

Shelby - They are sooo lying at your Mothers Group. Nobody's baby is perfect. I was late to mine on Monday as Jack screamed everytime I put him down to get ready

Tegan - Thanks soo much for your suggestions last night.....I seriously don't know how you do it all on your own. I really admire you :) Lily will be soo proud of you!

Juz - I'll have tea with you next time you cook a roast! I bet it was yummy!

my_lot - LOL to your offer of BD......My DH is the same when he's sick. Men are such sooky la la's!

Well my DH has gone to the gym and is then doing the grocery shopping on his way back...at least that's one thing I don't have to worry about.

I'm about to do some Internet shopping for a new nappy bag...it's the rest of my mothers day prezzie

Have a great weekend lovely ladies and thanks for all your support over the last few days. Seriously don't know what I would do without you all :hugs:

my_lot

18-05-2007, 19:58

sooky la la !!! i thought i was the only one who said this! LOL

we say some other "la la" when Eli has his pink stars nappy on too!

and yes hes a big sook (dp) but he is really, really sick. his temp is through the roof and he got a shot at the DRs today and i dont think hes any better...once again hes downstairs sleeping (has been on and off all day) and he isnt working tomorrow...so he must really be feeling like ****!...

tho i dont know if id rather work or be home with 4 kids when im sick....whats the better evil? lol

young_mummie07

18-05-2007, 20:18

Hi ladies just i didn't realize this section was here :o it would be nice to chat to other mums who had there bubs in the same month as i did, my little man was born on the 11/2/2007. I look forward to chatting to you all sometime :)

LMenz

18-05-2007, 20:20

sooky la la !!! i thought i was the only one who said this! LOL
tho i dont know if id rather work or be home with 4 kids when im sick....whats the better evil? lol

Too funny! I hope he is feeling better soon.....Is it the flu?

my_lot

18-05-2007, 20:34

hi young mummy- welcome.

im kay. click on my name for more and pics. i have 4 kids. 8,10,5 and 3 months.

where are you from.

lauren - yes flu...but hes sick too. cant keep a thing down. glad hes sleeping down stairs too. i dont want it! ffs if i get sick i dont know what will happen.

im already " sucking it up" now! LOL

icugal

18-05-2007, 20:41

Ok... time for a catch up.

Penny - How are you feeling? Hope your neck is better. I have updated the 'gatherings' thread.. I forgot that it even existed (my mind is mush!!) How is being back at work, have you started at your old hospy yet?

My neck and shoulder is STILL sore... it's driving me nuts (it will be a week tomorrow since this started). I'm managing to control the pain (which is lessening day by day at least) with just anti-inflammatories. I'm trying to give the valium a wide-berth because it makes me too stoned :)

I worked a shift at my old hospital a couple of weeks back and I'm going to be working again tomorrow night (assuming that my neck isn't too painful). I'm now on the roster for a shift every week.

Sorry lovelys but not many personals im getting ready to leave for Melb today. We head down to mil's and then dh and i leave sat morning for our weekend away

Hope you have a nice trip away and that your DH is nice to you !!

Lauren - I hope you had a better day today. K has been a bit unsettled today... very clingy, doesn't want to be put down. It has just taken me two hours to get Kaelan to sleep for the night. Maybe our bubs are just going through a phase.

my_lot - No offence, but your DP sounds like a right tool !! I don't think I'd be with him if he treated me like that. My DF can be a complete pain in the butt too... but I am very lucky in that he mostly helps me out with Kaelan. He is also one of the very rare males that does not whinge and whine when sick... he actually puts me to shame !! (poor bugger has had to put up with me complaining about my painful neck all week). There is obviously some good things about your DP, otherwise you wouldn't be with him.. maybe you'll have to try to remember these good things so that you don't end up strangling him... either that, or leave him :)

dp is still sick. i told him i really really really want to bd and it wont take long and it will make him feel so good and all the other bullshat he gives me after ive said no LOL and he said he cant hes weally weally sick poor baby!

karma is what it is.

That is just too funny !! :laughing:

Mon - You're a bloody legend orgainsing everything for your BBQ whilst attending to Liam as well. I know that I couldn't do it. Hope you have a good night.

Juzzy - I don't know what to say to you to make you feel better... I'm sure your DP doesn't do this deliberately to pi$$ you off... but he definately needs to adopt a 'family first' policy. I wouldn't tolerate my DF doing that to me on a consistent basis... I would give him the choice of work or me !! (I'm starting to sound like a bit of a tyrant huh?? Guess I probably do wear the pants in the family !!).

Thank god my little cherub has been good for me this week, although she did put on anohter stellar performance at mothers group today. Im seriously starting to think mine is the only problem child - all the other bebies were perfectly behaved and everyone goes around the room saying how lucky they are that they have such a good baby who sleeps and feeds perfectly and its all so easy....I just want to smack them!

The more I read about other Bubhubbers experiences, the more I realise how lucky I've been in this whole parenting thing so far (maybe that's not what you want to hear right now... *LOL*). My mothers group members have been great.. I really like the other girls. None of our babies are ever perfectly behaved and that is completely cool... because fact of life peoples - babies cry !! We also share our up and downs (much like we do in this thread) and all work together to try to solve our problems... no-one tries to compete or out-do anyone else...it's really good.

As for me - I've had a fairly bleh day today. Kaelan has been very unsettled as I said. He wanted to be held constantly and screams if I try to put him down. Out of desperation, I grabbed his highchair (still new in the box) out of the garage and set it up. The back rest can recline for young babies, plus it has a five point harness, so he could sit in it safely. He managed to sit in it for at least 30 minutes next to me at the kitchen table (I was trying to do some crafts) without crying. One good thing is that it is on wheels, so I can put him in the chair and wheel him around room to room with me. Normally if he were getting unsettled and I needed to get stuff done, I would either put him in the harness and carry him around with me... or I'd put him in the pram and go for a walk. Because of my sore neck/shoulders.. plus the fact that it has been raining on and off most of the day, I couldn't do either. Let's hope that the high chair thing will work... because I'm really disliking that he is so clingy at the moment... I need some space (I know how horrible that sounds.. I'm just in a feral mood tonight).

To top of my fabulous day, I got a traffic infringement notice in the mail. Apparently I went through a red light in the city on the day that us Melbourne mums met up at Albert Park. I know I would never do anything like that deliberately (particularly with Kaelan in the car), so buggered if I can think when it happened... so pi$$ed off right now. I've never had a traffic fine before (other than a parking fine)... and being as my maternity leave pay has finished, the last thing I need is a $215 fine.

Anyways, that's enough from me... have a good night girls.

LMenz

18-05-2007, 21:10

im already " sucking it up" now! LOL

:laughing: Kay, your a good woman!!

Penny - Have you seen someone about your neck.. physio, chiro?

I hope K settles down too. It's quiet draining being attached to them 24/7 isn't it??

:wave: Young_mummie07 WELCOME!!

I have got to get to bed..after last nights chat I'm already stuffed...I'm tempted to wake Jack and feed him now to see if he will go through......hmmm what to do?? I'll be cursing if he woke as per usual at 3am

shelby

18-05-2007, 21:14

I know what you mean Lauren - I am about to go to bed also and am debating over whether to wake Olivia for a feed - I think I will try it and see if it makes any difference.

Good luck, and hope you get some sleep tonight!!

LMenz

18-05-2007, 21:26

Shelby...I'm gonna leave him for tonight, I'm too tired to bother but let me know how you go...I've been thinking about doing a dream feed for a while.

I am definately going to bed now...goodnight all :)

juzzy

18-05-2007, 21:29

To top of my fabulous day, I got a traffic infringement notice in the mail. Apparently I went through a red light in the city on the day that us Melbourne mums met up at Albert Park. I know I would never do anything like that deliberately (particularly with Kaelan in the car), so buggered if I can think when it happened... so pi$$ed off right now. I've never had a traffic fine before (other than a parking fine)... and being as my maternity leave pay has finished, the last thing I need is a $215 fine.

Was it on St kilda Road or king st? Because there are two faulty cameras in the city (DP has be caught by both of them on a green light)

If not and you are sure that u didnt go thru a red light, id ask for the picture from the camera and try and contest the fine.

my_lot

18-05-2007, 21:44

good night.
i really should go to bed too. my little bugger will be up every 3 hours - we were trying to skip one fed by dp getting up to him and trying to get him back to sleep....but while dp is sick i have to get up to him so it will be "yummo" the minute i walk into his room!

2 steps forward. 10 back

SuperFrog

18-05-2007, 21:59

Hey Lauren, thought you were going to bed? It is niw 11.15pm and the little circle next to your name is green!

BBQ went well once I got Liam to settle. But I'm stuffed now. Just giving L his last feed at the moment then I'm off to bed.

Night all!

Roopee

18-05-2007, 22:17

Hi Young mummy!!
Welcome to our group-hope ya like it here! Im Tanya an i have 4 kids- aged 6, 4, 2, and 14 weeks.

kay- its amazing isnt how many people assume that you only have 1 or 2 kids. I always get those comments and it drives me nuts! Then when i say 4 they look at me like IM crazy and just spewed on their shoes or something.
I like the "dontcha know what causes it love?" comment.
Yes mate i do! Lots and lots of sex but hubby and i just cant help ourselves. hehehehe.
PLEASE!

no more personals tonight- tootired.
Talk later girls have a great weekend.

blubber

18-05-2007, 22:24

Am too debating about getting Elly up for a feed. Her last was at 6.00pmish and went to be at around 7.30ish.
Am feeling really lucky as i seem to have none of the day time sleeping and settling problems that so many of you are having. I remember with Mia (DD2) she was like this but got into a pattern far easier than Elly. Elly sleeps so well most of the time but is not establshing a pattern at all. OUr days are so different. I think i keep repeating myself on the factor but from memory Mia jst worked herself out. We followed the never wake a sleeping baby theory with Mia but have tried different stuff with Elly. I think i will just revert to the same.
Why can't some of us get the baby sleeping through from 6 weeks etc. Does this really happen.

Butterflymumma: i think i have the right one. Big support to you doing the sinngle thing. I had to do it last wek for 4 days and OMG. Although in saying that when you have no other option you know no other way. You just have to do it. After going through newborn second time around if i knew what i knew now i would be very proud of doing it on my own. (does that make sense)
I tried to prepare myself for the onslaught of two and in actuall fact #1 is so easy to accommadate that i believe the more you have the easier it will be. Problem is i am so bad at being pregnant 9 months is a bloody long time to deal with the s**t that comes with it.

juzzy

18-05-2007, 23:30

ok guys, i am thinking that i would like to start studying again... from home that is. DP said that if i do an accounting course i can do work for his business (they are slack and dont have anyone to do their books properly)

Think id be able to fit it in? Would i be taking on too much? Or am i just really tired and rambling like a mad woman?

icugal

18-05-2007, 23:38

How long is the course?? With one young baby I think it would be possible definately... If you want to TTC at the end of the year... it might be a lot harder to do it with two kids under two.

I'd recommend trying to do it now while you can...

Good luck :)

juzzy

18-05-2007, 23:54

thanks Penny, im looking at anywhere from 12 - 18 months to complete a course at TAFE level.

I already have 2 courses under my belt so dont see why i cant do another!

Besides i feel like i am rotting my brain being home all the time and not working or studying so i think its a great idea and there are some really great courses out there!

SuperFrog

19-05-2007, 07:35

Morning all! Hope everyone had a decent night's sleep.

Does anyone know if you can go straight from breastfeeding to using a cup, and skip using bottles? Liam doesn't take a bottle very well so this would be ideal, but I also don't want to still be feeding him when he is in kindergarten! Also, at what point can you stop giving breastmilk/formula all together?

I haven't decided how long I'll BF for yet. Will wait and see what happens when he starts teeting and when we start solids. If no one knows then I will ask in one of the feeding threads. Thought I'd ask my trusty Feb gals first!

my_lot

19-05-2007, 08:07

i think its 12 months to stop formula and go to full cream cows milk.

i used soy milk or lactose free milk depending on the child and the allergy level but they stayed on formula til 18 months.

you can teach a baby to drink from a straw at about 6 months old.

you can use a cup from a few weeks.

eli drinks very well from a cup now...even a mag mag sipper spout with a cross cut end works well.

harleyq

19-05-2007, 08:25

Some big news - l hope it lasts - Coen has slept through until 4.30 two nights in a row... it has been fantastic... mind you after 4.30 we are usually up and down with wind problems, but l went to bed at 9 last night so got 7 hours in a row!!!! I feel fantastic!!! I hope everyone else had a good night also!

Mothers groups � I promised myself that l wouldn�t gloss over being a mum to anyone � the last think l would want is for people to make me feel inferior � so l am really honest about my experiences at mothers group � and l have found the others are the same � but some mums � probably perfectionists in their previous lives (at work) just can�t let go of that image and feel they have to be a perfectionist mother� they are in for heartache in the long run � to anyone who has these �perfect mamas� in their mothers group � that�s a real shame � but you have us to chat to if you do decide to give the mothers groups a miss� Big hugs!!! And just a little secret � you�re a wonderful mumma � we all are!!
My_lot � I loved your 20 week mamma story � keep �em coming l find myself laughing at your posts all the time!! Hope DP�s disease doesn�t spread to the rest of the family (crossing my fingers for you)
Juzzy � Doing a course sounds like a wonderful idea Juzzy, but do you have someone that can help you out a bit � otherwise it might get a bit much for you right now???
Mon � apparently the general recommendation for formula fed babies is 12 months, but baby love also says this �Many babies bypass formula by breastfeeding and, in the second six months, combine breastfeeds with milk from a cup. Most bottle fed babies who eat well and drink only two to three bottles of milk should be able to drink whole milk from their bottles fro nine months without any detrimental effects�� Robin (the author) suggests that the difference between the 9 months and 12 months for formula fed babies is the formula companies trying to elongate mothers reliance of formula�

my_lot

19-05-2007, 12:54

harleyq- i have many many friends who have used formula til 12 months but given cups of cows milk from 9 months..

i have friends who "wishy washy" down cows milk at 10-11 months to "get them used to it" ..i just dont get that! whats the point really. by then you have tried yoghurt and maybe some cheese and could give them sips of cows milk in a cup- so youll know if the baby is allergic... i just dont think thats right. its their milk and they are under 1 its still very important.

anyways they are my thougts on it.

i should have no problems with eli. even though im using soy formula he has had normal formula and not reacted... so i will be giving him all the other dairy foods to try...maybe a bit later than normal but i dont think im going to have another "all soy" kid with this one.

LMenz

19-05-2007, 15:36

LMenz

19-05-2007, 15:39

oops forgot to say....

Sandy - That's fantastic news for you. Well Done to Coen!!

Hels - WHERE ARE YOU???? I'm about to send out a missing persons report :laughing:

harleyq

19-05-2007, 17:54

It sure is quiet here today... just when l need some advice too... well l will put this out there just in case... my dilemma... Coen went down at 5, DH wrapped him cos he was having trouble settling him... the key here is we don't normally wrap him fully except for his big night sleep... well he is still asleep and it is 7.10pm, do we wake him... and risk having an extremely angry baby for now - but a good night sleep, or do we let him sleep with the knowledge that tonight is going to be completely unpredictable???

Any advice would be most helpful

my_lot

19-05-2007, 17:59

i cant give you any advice- i wish i was the one asking for thins kind of advice! LOL

i wake 3 hourly every night.

harleyq

19-05-2007, 18:04

So am l -- usually - except the last two nights, not sure what is going on...

Squiggles

19-05-2007, 18:04

Sandy, I would leave him. All of my experiences of waking Connor have been bad. I have found that anything after around 4:30ish if he stays asleep then I leave him as long as possible. He went through a phase of being fed at 3pm sleeping from 4:30 then waking at around 8:30 for a feed then sleeping right through the night... If I woke him and interrupted him I found him much harder to get back to sleep. Now he sleeps 4:30 - 5:30 then bath and feed at 6pm and then sleeps through til 6am.

Squiggles

19-05-2007, 18:06

I just read my post and its just ramble... I hope it makes sense?? And of any use?

LMenz

19-05-2007, 18:11

I agree, leave him. Jack has done this before and he usually woke himself around 11.30ish for a feed...:)

LMenz

19-05-2007, 18:19

i wake 3 hourly every night.

When are you starting solids?? :laughing:

Squiggles

19-05-2007, 18:22

my_lot

19-05-2007, 18:27

oh i see. i get what you asking now. i re-read...im really sick got the flu bad.

i wake eli to feed before i go to bed so between 10-11pm and it makes no difference. i mean no difference to the hours he sleeps...he will still wake when hes due, just starting from that feed.

so if i wake him i know i can go to bed and get 3ish hours sleep before he wakes again rather than me go to bed and be woken 30 minutes or an hour after falling asleep (i really, really hate that)

i still have no advice for you.

im really thinking about giving him a spoon of farax at night to see if that will make him sleep longer...but i know what the ABA told me is right- if he doesnt get the 6-8 feeds in the day he will look for them at night...and if he does get them in the day and im sure of it then he is waking out of habit and need to be put back to sleep without the feed.

still no help to you hey.

doesnt help that i havent kept track of whos breast whos bottle here. that would make a dif too.

Squiggles

19-05-2007, 18:30

Oh yeah - Connor is fed formula so that might make a difference

harleyq

19-05-2007, 18:34

Thanks Squiggles / Lauren / My_lot -- you have all been really helpful... sleep he will... l might try a dreamfeed around 1030/11ish if l haven't heard from him before that...

As for solids, l am going to try to wait until 6 months like the recommendations suggest, but l say try, nothing is set in concrete... if he seems disturbed by this than it might be earlier...

How was Jack today Lauren???

my_lot

19-05-2007, 18:35

lauren- it will be soon i tell ya!

im sure i should give him farax in the day not night to be able to see any reaction...but i have given him some banana and hes ok, also given him licks of some fruit (no berry- its HIGH allergy) hes tasted watermelon and rockmelon and hes very interested.

the only reason we did farax at 14 weeks with dd1was because of her reflux...but back then 10 years ago it was normal to start solids at 4 months.

my last would love to lick fruits. he loved frozen fruits like banana and orange when he was teething but he would not eat off a spoon- he just spat it out...i had no hope at 4 months cos he was still doing that at 7 months!

so yep i think eli is gonna get a bit of farax soon.

harleyq

19-05-2007, 18:42

Coen is breastfed.... I have just added that to my signature...

LMenz

19-05-2007, 18:46

Hey Lauren, Connor started giggling the other day too - How cute is it!!! DH hasn't heard him do it yet, trying to get him to do it again... he first laughed when I took him outside with our dogs who were going mental and running around in circles - which I find really irritating and I was just about to yell at them to stop it when Connor just started staring at them and cracking up! Loved it!

And yeah where is Hels???? Hope everything is OK - she left live chat the other night cos Reece was having a screamer, hope nothing is wrong. HOpe she is off shopping for some bargains or eating some choccy :):laughing:

It is gorgeous...Jack first did it when I lifted him up in the air. Then last night after his bath I was drying his head quiet firmly (he still has a bit of cradle cap) He just started this fit of giggles then I started laughing and then he started giggling more........It was just what I needed after the horrid week we had had.

im really thinking about giving him a spoon of farax at night to see if that will make him sleep longer...but i know what the ABA told me is right- if he doesnt get the 6-8 feeds in the day he will look for them at night...and if he does get them in the day and im sure of it then he is waking out of habit and need to be put back to sleep without the feed.

That's very interesting.....I remember reading your DP was trying to re-settle him at night.

I'd be interested to see if the farex works. My mum has been on my back for weeks about giving Jack some..she thinks he should be sleeping 12 hours straight at night cos that's what my brother did. I don't think Jack wakes out of hunger either.....he weights 6.5 kgs for god sakes....

Kay I hope your feeling better really soon :)

LMenz

19-05-2007, 18:53

How was Jack today Lauren???

Much better thanks....He slept for 2 hours straight - while I was out shopping :banghead: DH now thinks Jack just loves him sooo much as he's really good when he's around...cheeky little bub!

I think his recent behaviour has been a combo of 12 week growth spurt, being sick and becoming more alert.

I feel much more on top of things after today...DH looked after him most of the day..I just fed him :D

harleyq

19-05-2007, 19:08

Thats fantastic news Lauren!!!

Coen has been giggling for about two weeks now, it started one day when l was laughing at him and then he laughed back, which then ended up with me laughing more and vise versa, until he got the hiccups... unfortunatley many of Coen's laughing episodes end in hiccups, cos we can't help but laugh back which sets him off... but it is soooooo much fun!!!

I am going to Cirque du soleil tomorrow, so l will be gone for about 4 hours in total, DH is going to have to look after Coen by himself, l think he is a bit nervous as the most he has ever had him by himself up until now is 40 minutes... :gloomy:

Just been looking through some of our photos of Coen -- He is soooooooo gorgeous and l love him so much, l just want to go and wake him, l am not used to be without him for this long.... (cos he usually doesn't go to bed until 8/ 9pm)... so been having lots of let downs... l even went to check on him hoping he would wake up... l didn't get to say good night cos DH put him down...

I must sounds like a raving loon ;)

LMenz

19-05-2007, 19:15

I must sounds like a raving loon ;)

:laughing: Na not at all...it's very sweet!

Cirque du solei sounds like fun...Enjoy!

my_lot

19-05-2007, 19:25

sandy- i still go in if dp has put the kids to bed and theyve all kissed me goodnight before they go!

he gives ds a "head ride" every night. they pretend to be an animal and duck under the fans and doorframes and then he dumps him on the bed in fits of laughter- it too noisy for my liking right on bed time but its their thing theyve always done so i just stay out the way and go in later to tuck him in.

and before i go to bed for the night i still kiss each one on their head while they are asleep..

and thanks lauren- i feel like ****. my friend came and got one of my girls today to go to her place to play with her 5 kids...kept her kids entertained and my house was so much quieter without my fog horn here. when she drove dd home she came back with a bag of school jumpers her kids had outgrown and home made dinner for us all...what a great friend! i had a sleep this after noon while dp was with the kids.

hes still sick but looking a lot better today. hes gone to bed now though and left me to put everyone else to bed yet again. he even had the hide to tell me i should thank him for having the kids so i could have a sleep...hhhmm dont remember being thanked for keeping house, working the books, and looking after 4 kids all while getting sicker and sicker for the last three days. ill be glad when hes better, then we can go back to our nomal cr@p.

harleyq

19-05-2007, 19:31

What a great friend My_lot, bet you'd do the same for her in a heartbeat!!! Sounds like both you and DP need some good ole rest!!!
I hope Eli has a good sleep and surprises you with at least a 5-6 hour stint!!! :fingerscrossed:

my_lot

19-05-2007, 19:35

i have some pics of my pup, marjani, in his new bed.

it is so small its a wonder he can get into it! but we still have elis change table next to the bed so there isnt much room there anyway!

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/marjanibed.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_4900.jpg

and dd watching tv with him.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_4872.jpg

i wish i had a superman cape small enough for him lol.
might have to make one.

or maybe ill do a pic like this Bob the builder one in my av ( thats my older boy when he was a bub) but with eli and the pup...

Roopee

19-05-2007, 20:21

OMG your a chatty bunch aren't you!

Harley- i'm going against the grain here but i would have woken him. I used to do it all the time so they knew it wasn't "night" time yet. Sounds a bit queer but its always worked for me. Mine were ff though.

solids- i started all mine at 4 mths and will do the same with Cody. I find it gets easier if they are on solids. They sleep better (not that i need that sorry) and just .....i dunno...seem happier?

Lmenz good to hear Jack is better today!!!

Kay- gee you dont catch a break do you! Poor bugger-i hope you feel better soon. Oh and on the not geting thanked thing. Weeeeeellllll it is our job you know!:rolleyes: God they are thick arent they.

shelby

19-05-2007, 20:30

Pretty quiet here today.......

DH took Jack for a walk this morning so I got to sleep in until 9.30! Lovely to just lay in bed in the peace and quiet.

Jack also slept for two hours straight today. I was having some time out and DH sent me a text to say Jack was still alseep.Why does he only do it when DH is home?? It's like he knows when I'm out of the house. Be interesting to see if he does it tomorrow too.

Not much else happening here....The last two days I've started Jack on 4 hourly feeds. He seems to be managing well hunger wise.....I think I'm going to try a dream feed also - possibly of formula. Not sure yet....just wondering if he would sleep longer??

AND Jack has started giggling :D My gosh it's the cutest thing ever!

Hey Lauren - Olivia does that all the time with Dan - this morning she slept for 2.5 hours, which is the first time she has gone longer than 40 mins since she was a few weeks old. |Doesnt it drive u nuts?

I tried a dream feed last night - I fed her at 1030, she got up at 4pm but only for a small feed and then was up at 7am. Not sure if it made a big difference, the night before she got up at 1am so it probably gave us a few extra hours. I am going to try it again and see how I go. Let me know if you give it a go!

mylot - your puppy is just gorgeous. |Brings back memories for me of our first family dog cos she looks identical - a silky terrier and she was just gorgeous.Glad to hear your frined gave you a bit of a break what a gem. Now if only your DP could get better and help a bit more too.

Sandy - I dont think your crazy at all - \O|livia has been in bed for 2 hours and I miss her already! I have had a couple of letdowns too - I find if I think of her I get one. Weird how that works. I think I will give her a dream feed when I go to bed, partly just because it will be nice to give her a cuddle!

DF took Olivia to a family function today foir a few hours with a bottle of EBM so I got a bit of a break which was nice. I missed her though - was so happy to see her when she got home.

Have a great weekend evryone :wave:

my_lot

19-05-2007, 20:51

hi shelby

hi tanya

gosh i need to go to bed. told dd she could watch "smart house" a disney movie...so then the others wanted to watch too. 5 minutes into it they both fell asleep!

so i just woke dp up to get ds to bed.
ha ha.
but he knows ds will just put it on for me. i get that damn job off brushing his teeth while hes still asleep but awake enough to thrash his hands about.

i have to take him to the loo and hes asleep enough for me to carry him there but suddenly hes "im a BOY mum" and doesnt want to sit LOL (i toilet trained him to sit and it worked great til 3 year on and a kid at pre-school teased him!) so i have to stand him so i dont get that job of cleaning the floor too!...

then suddenly hes wide awake and wanting dad...go figure. they must have this special code- these men in my life. you know mum does the work dad does the fun and games.

so now smart house is over i can go to bed too! dd loves to stay up but is scared of the dark and being alone in the house!

bAaM

19-05-2007, 21:21

Hi guys no personals tonight need to get some sleep.

Just thought i would let you no i have updated my sign and put a link to some photos in it if you want a look.

will catch up tomorrow night am going to monster in-laws tomorrow for her b-day.

have a god day guys.
Alicia
xxxxx

blubber

19-05-2007, 22:22

After having a read through it seems we all have some form of sleep issues and wether to wake a sleeping baby or not. With DD1 we never did but with Elly, who loves her sleep during the day we have. Not sure if it is detrimental or not. Have been out tonight..and that is amazing in itself but she had a feed when we got home, about 9.30...yes it was a big night out..haha and now have no clue what she will do. We have been experimenting with a roll over feed, it worked so well with MIa (DD1) but she is still waking around 4.00ish, not hungry but unsettled. It's all so unpredictable.To make matters worse i was told today of a 3 week old baby who has a feed at 10.00pm and sleeps until 7.00am. Not fair!!

Elly is really trying to chat away and nothing beats going into her room to get her out of bed and being greeted with a masive smile. I love that.

Those of us who have more than one child, how are the older ones reacting to a bub in the house. Mia has really taken to Elly in the last few days. Not that she was put out before but i sense she is feeling a greater connection with her now that she is vocal and smiling. She is so gentle and caring for her it makes your heart melt.

The other thing i wanted to say is it is great to hear about you girls missing your bubs when they are sleeping for longer. I remember when Mia (DD1) was this age and you just felt so strange if they were not around. What we do is such a special thing that with all the whinging, confusion and often frustration about what they should and should not be doing all we want is them.

SuperFrog

19-05-2007, 23:09

Gee, you guys were chatty tonight! I would have joined in but alas I was not home. DH got a new guitar for his birthday, and some of his friends came over today to "jam". Liam and I decided to vacate as I'm sure it would have been too noisy. There is a limit to the number of times you can hear the riff to Day Tripper before it does your head in. :laughing:

Thanks for all the advice on moving to solids and cups. Sounds like every kid is different. Liam hasn't shown any interest in food so I haven't tried anything. He's too busy shoving his fists in his mouth at the moment! Interestingly, I had a call from the Breastfeeding Day-Stay Clinic that I attended when Liam was about 2-weeks-old. They were following up on the progress of people that attended. She sounded really surprised when I said Liam was fully BF. I guess a lot of people must give up after going there. I don't think they helped me much physically, but they did offer support and motivation, which is what I needed at the time.

Sleep/feed routine - Liam (who is exclusively BF) has always been a good sleeper, so I'm not sure if my input is worth much. At the moment he feeds every 3-4 hours during the day, sometimes with 40 min naps in between. He does all his sleeping in big chunks. Typically I'll feed him at 8am, 11am, 3pm, 6.30pm and he'll go to bed around 7.30pm and sleep until I wake him around midnight for a final feed. Then he will sleep through until 8am. So at the moment he is getting 5 feeds a day.

Next weekend I am going to try a new thing and not wake him for the last feed. At the moment it doesn't seem to matter what time I wake him up as he will always sleep until 8am. The longest he has slept before is 9.30pm till 8am. He is 4 months now. Given his good track record, do you reckon he would sleep from 7pm until 8am? I'd also be dropping a feed doing this, unless he picked up another one during the day. Do you reckon it would stuff up my milk supply?

It is a bit daunting trying something new when the old routine works. Am I crazy for even contemplating this??? I really don't know what a baby's sleep routine normally deveops into once they get older.

I know other people have greater sleep issues than this, but I really wanted to ask about this. I'm not trying to make anyone feel bad.

Cow's milk question - Liam gets a rash on his forehead if I drink full-cream milk (I have a weakness for chocolate Big-M). MCHN said that it is a reaction to the protein in the cow's milk that passes through my breast milk, and it's not related to lactose. Does this mean that he might have a reaction to cow's milk when he drinks it himself later on?

My_lot - Hope you feel heaps better soon. I hate being sick, and can't even contemplate having to look after a brood of kids while being sick. I think you're the one that needs a Superman cape!

My parents are coming over tomorrow. They have been in Papua New Guinea for three weeks so it will be interesting to see what changes they notice in Liam. Sometimes you don't notice how much they are changing and growing when you see them all the time. Doesn't the saying go "can't see the forest for the trees"? Something like that.

Goodnight lovely ladies!

blubber

19-05-2007, 23:22

Liam just looks fantastic.
I think you have answered your own question about trying something different. From experience and the way you describe his day it all seems pretty good. As in you said it doesn't seem to amtter when you wake hin he always sleeps until 8. With DD1 we did the rollover feed and the night we dropped it she still slept and continued to do so. On the other with Elly she is still all over the place, roll over feed or not

harleyq

20-05-2007, 07:36

Well, thanks for the advice ladies, Coen stirred at 10 so l gave him a dreamfeed then (it was only 12 minutes)... so in the end he slept from 5-10, 10.15-3.14; 4.15-7.15 it was great... (and my_lot l got to kiss him good night at the 10pm feed - so l got my fix!!) Should l push my luck and try for this again???
I think the difference was that DH wrapped him at 5pm, we only usually wrap his for his big sleep, so he must have assumed it was his big sleep -- well it worked out well in the end... l had to express at 4 and this morning at 7 cos my boobies just aren't used to going that long - its never happened before... works out well really cos am going to Cirque du soleil (with a girlfriend -- my 30th birthday present) today so there will be booby juice on tap!!!

my_lot - cute pictures... l so want a dog!!! DH still wont let me, l will have to tell him how you are doing so well with 4 kids and a dog and see what he has to say... are there cats in the mix there too?

mon - Liam is such a good sleeper - that is fantastic!! Just a quick question, why do you want to change the routine??? (thats inquisitiveness, not judgement BTW) I think they are supposed to be getting 6-8 feeds a day... I have checked one of my books (miss nerd here) and here is what it has to say "A four hour gap between breastfeeds is at the extreme low end of the breastfeeding count, particularly for the first few months (???how long is a few months). Six four-hourly feeds in 24 hours will not usually provide enough breast stimulation and drainage and is often a recipe for poor supply an unsatisfied baby and early weaning" (Breastfeeding naturally by the ABA)
... Coen usually feeds 3 hourly during the day, cluster feeds before his big sleeps and then wakes once or twice during the night... sorry not sure if that is helpful at all...
Enjoy seeing your parents Mon, l know you've missed them (especially your mum)

Hope everyone has a good day, it looks like it will be a nice one (in Melbourne at least)

harleyq

20-05-2007, 08:28

Good morning again, sorry for the double post, but l just don't know myself now that l have a baby who sleep for more than 40 minutes at a time... (sorry - l don't mean to rub it in)... but this really is a first for us... its only taken 12 weeks!!!

Please check out these New photos of Coen (http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s49/harleyq_album/3rd%20month/)
l think they're gorgeous, but perhaps l'm biased

SuperFrog

20-05-2007, 09:16

Beautiful pics Sandy!

Was contemplating the routine change as I usually have to wake him for his last feed. It seems cruel to always wake him from such a deep sleep.

Gotta grab some brekky. Have a lovely day!

Butterflymumma

20-05-2007, 10:42

Alas no... im at home... making dinner... for an ungrateful partner who called to tell me that he will be home late even though i told him earlier in the day i was making a ROAST DINNER and to be home EARLY!!

Oh Juz, sorry to hear your DP did this!!! I hope you enjoyed your dinner anyway! I hope he realised how much of an effort you went to when he got home!! I think the study idea is fantastic, I am going back to do a bachelor of EDU or Animal science next year (hopefully external). If your doing it at home, then i cant see it being too hard for you!! Goodluck!!

Lauren - No problem for the advice, i dont know if any of it helped but i am glad to hear you and Jack are having a better time of it now!!

Penny- Sorry to hear about the traffic fine, I agree with Juz, look into it more if you think you didnt do it. Goodluck with it anyway! How is your neck and shoulders? I hope you are feeling much better soon!!

Shelby- I'm sorry to hear some mum's in your mothers group are having trouble admitting or discussing their problems. I've always been a really open, wear my heart on my sleeve, kind of girl so i cant see the logic in pretending things are going ok when they may not be. Good on you for having the strength to be honest to them and yourself that things in motherhood are all not Peachy. And by the way LOOOVVE your avatar, what a CUTIE!

Thanks to Lauren, Shelby and Blubber for your nice comments about my single motherhood. It really gives me a pep up when i hear how people really appreciate the difficulties that comes with this kind of situation. I am luckier than some, I cry when i read about how some mummies spend xmas all alone with their child, and they wrap up the presents and hold the camera while trying to open the present for their baby. :crying: It breaks my heart to hear this. I am lucky to have an amazing support network of family and friends and a fantastic mum who goes out of her way to help me. The hardest part out of all of this is just going through the parenting issues without someone beside me feeling exactly the same way about their child. Ex gets to go out and do what he wants, then come in and try to tell me how to raise Lillyana while im home awake at 4.30 doing all the hard work!!

But to be honest apart from that, it is not really that difficult with Lillyana, we have our really feral days, but i think i was given an easy baby to deal with...thank god.

I hope all the sleeping issues sort themselves out with everyone. Ive come to let anything go with the days with lilly and not focus too much on what times she feeding or sleeping etc, but at night we have a good routine. usually Bath at 6, feed at 6.30-7 and then to bed. she sleeps through till 4-5 am most mornings.

Kay- gorgeous puppy! And :hugs: to you for having the flu and managing all on your own while your DF is sick :thumbsdown:

Well ladies, im off, sorry there havent been many personals, hey to all those ive missed!

Take care xx

shelby

20-05-2007, 14:49

just a quick one as I am absolutely buggered. Well last night I thought Id try the dream feed again - woke her for a feed at 1030, then she was up at 11:15 and proceeded to wake up every 2 hours after that for a feed until 730 this morning. I am absolutely wrecked!! Not sure if it is a growth spurt or if I disturbed her with the dream feed, but Im really hoping she doesnt do it again!

Will post personals later :wave:

MiasMum1

20-05-2007, 15:41

Hi all,
I'm a newbie at bub hub and just wondered if i could join your May thread?
I have a gorgeous little 12 week girl, Mia Charlotte, our first bub.
My hubby works away in the mines most of the time and as she's sleeping longer and longer i now need something to fill in my time. And i thought talking to other proud mums would be the prefect way. Hope you's don't mind, love to chat with you all.
Cheers.

LMenz

20-05-2007, 16:03

Hi Ladies :wave:

We've had a quiet day so far.....drove out to The Baby Gallery today..got Jack a bigger bath (he's outgrown his baby one) and I picked up a new nappy bag which was the rest of my mothers day prezzie. Jack slept both ways and when we got home he went down again but woke after 40 minutes. DH was able to re-settle him by rocking his cot so might give that a try next week

I think I will try a dream feed...I'm sick of getting up at 3am. I hope it works :fingerscrossed:

Shelby - I think it could be a growth spurt...Jack started waking at all hours during his. I almost gave up breastfeeding it was soo tiring (and my nipples hurt again) Hang in there it should pass within a week

Sandy - Lovely pics :) I'm glad not waking him worked out. I'd give it another try. Babies only need a few days to work out a new routine. How did your DH go today?

Welcome miasmum1 :wave:

Have to give Jack his bath...be back soon

harleyq

20-05-2007, 16:30

Cirque Du Soleil was terrific, only one let down the whole time we were out... l must have been distracted... DH coped okay - he said that he really struggled with the bottle as Coen has forgotten how to suck from it - but they got there in the end... My inlaws came over as well (oh so sorry l missed them)!
Good luck with the dreamfeed Lauren and enjoy mothers group tomorrw!!!
Miasmum1 - welcome
Shelby - :hugs: :fingerscrossed: that it all works out for you tonight , a nice long 8 hour sleep is exactly what the Dr. ordered (so l have taken the liberty and ordered one for you)!!!
Mon - Does Liam actually wake up when you get him up for his last feed... l don't know if it is just Coen, but the one time l actually got Coen up he stayed asleep and l just shoved the nipple in his mouth... last night l waited until he started stirring just a little and then took that opportunity to feed him, but he was still asleep (essentially)

Hope everyone has a good night tonight!!! Hels / Penny - we miss you!!!

SuperFrog

20-05-2007, 16:59

Welcome Mia'sMum!

Liam has slept more during the day today than he has over the past week combined! Not sure why. He had a big play just before my Mum and Dad left so at least they got to see him while he was awake.

Sandy - Usually Liam is mostly awake for this last feed as I prefer to change his nappy first, which usually wakes him up. He's 95% asleep when we've finished feeding though, so I can just pop him in his cot and he goes straight to sleep. The more I talk about this the more I think that I should keep doing what I'm doing. But having said that, Liam has slept so much today that I've only fed him 3 times so far.

What's the difference between a dream feed and a roll-over feed? Or are they the same thing?

Oh, I hear the munchkin waking up now. He's probably hungry!

LMenz

20-05-2007, 18:06

I'm back...

Mon - I'd try leaving Liam sleep and see if he goes all the way through. Jack used to do 11 hours straight for a while there. My boobs adjusted over a few days. If your worried about getting enough feeds into him maybe call the ABA and ask their opinion. My MCHN did say they could drop a feed at 3 months (5 instead of 6)

Well not much else happening here. Jack's asleep for the night. DH is at the gym. I think I'll be having an early night :sleeping:

mummy2oceana

20-05-2007, 21:50

Evening everyone!!

I think I might have to come in here every few hours to stop falling so far behind LOL

Solids - I started Oceana at 4 months, and I have a feeling with Sienna it will be the same... she already eyeing off the food LOL

Growth Spurts - I think Sienna is going thru one atm.. She was sleeping 7 - 7 but is now waking at 3ish, so I feed her then and she'll sleep past 7, which I know it sounds sttupid lol. but its frustrating me as we have this great routine going, and I also rely on ehr to get me up :P So I started giving her her dreamfeed again and it all seems back to normal. Cutting it out tonight to see how she goes without it. IF I was smart I would go to bed now, in case shes up but noooo.

lmenz - Sienna has dropped a feed like you said. She was having 5 (as reccomended on the formula tin) but since cutting out the dreamfeed she is on 4 and its not bothering her, so we are both happy campers.

Laughing - I am so jealous of all these laughing babies lol.. Sienna has always been pretty unimpressed with most things, I thought I heard a giggle from her the other night but I am not to sure as Oceana was yelling in the bacground.. :(.

I am really really excited though as I have been wanting to get Sienna a swing for a while. But couldn't justify some of the prices, especially with her growing as fast as she is. So i finally found one on ebay, for a very good fisher price one for only 50 dollars!! Im so excited :D:D LOL

Other than that, I need to know any remedies to get a voice back LOL... My voice went on Friday and its still not back :S I mean I can talk but the loudest I can get is normal talking, so telling Oceana off is getting nowhere as she thinks its funny that I have a weird voice :S

And another question. Sienna has gotten over a cold but seems to have a night cough, it isnt bad but I was wondering if the only thing I can give her is panadol? LOL i'm useless when it comes to sicknessess

Ok good night everyone :D

bAaM

20-05-2007, 22:13

Hi fab feb mums and bubbys,

Sandy They are great photos what a cutie.
Mon Not sure about the from boob to cup thing as i couldn't b/f either of mine my boobies where on level 10 restrictions cause of them being in a drought. ( i was dead empty)
but i would say so cause f/f bubs go from bottle to cup. I no what you mean about fists in the mouth M is even trying to eat me.

Blubber Andrew is great with marissa he was a bit ify to start with real mummas boy but the last few weeks he is just a so good with her and so proud to show her off cause she is HIS baby sister. It makes me so happy to watch them cause she is always full of smiles when she see's her big brother.
By the way how did you go with the formula i only the other day realised that it HR-AR bub is on don't no what the difference is but it works for us.

Tegan You can come over and and be bored with mara and I (u will meet her wednesday) there is nothing better when you have nothing to do to go do nothing with other ppl doing nothing (if you got that LOL) And about your friends not inviting you WELL we will go out one night and when they asked why u didn't invite them tell them cause it was for a kid free mums night.
Miasmum1 Welcome to the best thread out hope u enjoy.
Peta Just ask the chemest about what to give her cause i don't think there is much till there 6 months.
Hels is still MIA i hope her and reece are ok.
US Well DS was on steroids for his athsma cause he got the flu and now i have it and feel like **** i have lost my voice and my head hurts but i have taken a night time flu tablet so i'm a little out to it Atm and now M has had the runs all day her poor bum is red raw.

Hope every one has a good night sleep tonight.

Alicia

bAaM

20-05-2007, 22:21

by the way Kay i am just using the old style square terry towling atm and sposies at night and when we go out. I will be getting some mcn when we can afford it. I have been leaving her nudey when she is awake to help air out her poor red bottem. What are the best covers for TT cause i heard the plastic pilches are no good but thats all i have, what else can be used?
I'm off to be now
night night

my_lot

21-05-2007, 06:53

leashi- i use my berry plush as a cover or wool pants (the blue ones in my profile pics) or i have some like undies that are good for day sleeps when he gets hot. if you have a nan/granma that could knit you some like undies (the same as the pilchers) that would be great! you can buy a sample pack of all the smelly stuff to wash them in or buy the basic of it your self quite cheaply at the chemist and if you have a few you wont need to wash them often so theres not much to it at all.

if she has a rash be sure not to over soak and rinse them very very well...sunshine and use good liners to keep the wet off her skin. have a look at greenkids inserts. i pulled one apart (its like two long bits stitched at one end- youy use them as a double and then they are easy to dry) and i use them as a single "insert" in the terry naps. not too thick but he doesnt wet through straight away and so can stay in it a bit longer if im doing something (this could work well for day sleeps)

MiasMum1

21-05-2007, 07:12

:) Thank you for the "welcomes" ladies, i'm still trying to get my head around it all. eeeek!!
So many topics and so much to read and chat about!!
I have been reading back through this thread, are alot of you having sleeping troubles with your bubs'?
And I have to ask as i'm not up with the lingo, whats a "dream feed" ???
I'll have to get up with all this hey!
Cheers.

my_lot

21-05-2007, 07:27

hi mias mum and welcome!

"dreamfeed" is waking the bub late at night and giving them a feed...in the hope they will sleep longer.

my dp calls it "forcefeed" cos ill tickle, unwrap, sing, anything...

and it makes no blo0dy dif at all! my little bugger will just wake 3 hours after that!

MiasMum1

21-05-2007, 07:34

:thumbsup: Thanks for the "dream feed" definition my_lot! We're bottlefeeders...so my little munchkin is a pretty good sleeper, i can't complain really. I feel so sorry for all the mum's getting no sleep, i was the same until Mia was 6-7 weeks old, i was having to feed her every half an hour, in the end i just couldn't do it anymore, i was a walking zombie and thought being like this i'm eventually going to do more harm than good, to either myself or bubs. That's why we switched to formula, i know some parents are really against formula feeding, but it was a lifesaver for us, so i hope nobody holds it against me...pleeease..! :D

my_lot

21-05-2007, 08:03

mias mum- sooo many mums have troubles feeding the first bub. it should be more "out there" that its not easy, its blo0dy hard work!

there should be more support for bottle feeding mums.

this one is my 4th and i have enough milk, not overflow like ive had before, but i know hes feeding well. i would love to bottle feed. theres no way i would have said that with my first! mums are made to feel so guilty and for what? it all goes in one end and come out the other!

my boy will NOT take a bottle. i have tried everything. i have asked the ABA (even tho they are for b/feeders i thought training him to a bottle could be the same as weaning so it was worth asking them) and ive asked the baby health clinic.

so here i am with a kid who CAN feed and i dont want to. funny when just 10 years ago every breast feed ended in tears and me feeling like id failed as a mum cos i couldnt fully breast feed!

LMenz

21-05-2007, 08:27

I am NEVER going to work my child out......He's slept for 2.5 hours this morning. He even self settled himself after the 40 minute mark. I was just about to get out of bed when it went quiet again

The bit that p*sses me the most is he knows how to self settle but only does it at night (and this morning)

I think he will be a very unpredictable person

mummy2oceana - Jack has a cough too and I was wondering if I should be giving him anything for it? not sure. I might check with the chemist......his sounds quiet chesty

I'm not going to my Mothers Group today cos of Jack's cold...I really don't want to miss out but it's probably not the best idea to take him.

MiasMum1

21-05-2007, 08:28

my_lot - I'm just really lucky that i have an excellent health nurse who is very supportive. And i say at least i tried to breastfeed, i did it for 6-7 long pain staking weeks, both my nipples were cracked, and i mean huge cracks, and bleeding, and feeding every half hour to an hour was torture! not to mention only getting about 2-3 hrs sleep in 24hrs, so after 6 weeks of this i started giving her just a night bottle and she took to it so well, slept for longer and was a much happier bub, in the end she wouldn't take the nipple at all, so thats when we put her on the bottle full time and we've never looked back! My health nurse said that any other mum in my situation would probably have given up well before then, but i'm a toughie :D hehe!
Well i am the opposite, i would have loved to have been able to keep breastfeeding her, so maybe next time it will be more successful for me...
I agree, there should be alot more help available, starting from the hospital, especially for first time mums, like me!
I was a bit disapointed in our hospital, they weren't very helpful. I'm a first time mum, they knew that, so i'd never really had much to do with babies before, (only cuddles & bottle feeding my god son) and my DH had no experience AT ALL, so when we asked them to show us how to do a cloth nappy, you should have seen the look they gave us, we felt like total dumb arses! Then i had 5 different nurses come in throughout my hosp stay and tell me 5 different ways of how i SHOULD breastfeed, please!! they succeeded in confusing me...haha!
Anyway enough of my :ecomcity: :ecomcity: :ecomcity:
Cheers!

SuperFrog

21-05-2007, 09:16

I was a bit disapointed in our hospital, they weren't very helpful. I'm a first time mum, they knew that, so i'd never really had much to do with babies before, (only cuddles & bottle feeding my god son) and my DH had no experience AT ALL, so when we asked them to show us how to do a cloth nappy, you should have seen the look they gave us, we felt like total dumb arses! Then i had 5 different nurses come in throughout my hosp stay and tell me 5 different ways of how i SHOULD breastfeed, please!! they succeeded in confusing me...haha!

Geez... I wouldn't have coped in your hospital. I'm a first-time Mum, and I had absolutely no experience with babies. I mean, I'd never even held one before Liam was born! Neither had DH. I wasn't even sure that I liked babies! We had to learn everything. I wasn't even sure how a disposable nappy was supposed to work! I asked so many dumb questions and they were really supportive. One of the nurses even gave me a hug when I had my day 3 baby blues meltdown.

I have zero motivation today. It is 10.30am and I am still in my pyjamas. Dishes from last night are piled in the sink. Bed needs to be made. Washing is over-running my laundry. Builders could arrive any minute. What a slacker!

Was chatting with one of my friends yesterday and we figured out that Liam will be in year 12 in 2024. :eek: He'll have robots to do his homework!

harleyq

21-05-2007, 09:19

Mia's mum - don't feel like you have to apologise for not breastfeeding - if you can do it and want to do it, fair enough - but when there are issues you just have to go with the flow - mums mental health is soooooo much more important then whether it is breast milk or not...

Lauren - yeah for Jack's sleep... we had a good night last night too, Coen went down at 7, he had a dreamfeed at 10 (Mia in my case this means getting my little boy into a quiet dimly lit room and shoving the nipple in, he sleeps through it and just instinctively sucks) then he slept through till 3 and then 7... which once again is great going for us (probably sounds like a nightmare to those mums who have babies who sleep right through,... but trust me, its very good)

I hope all of you sufferring with sick bubs (and mums) get well soon... Coen still has a bit of a runny nose, but it doesn't seem to be effecting him too much...

Melbourne gals - are we still doing a meet at my place some time this week?

LMenz

21-05-2007, 09:19

It is 10.30am and I am still in my pyjamas.

Me too :laughing:

JoJoMart

21-05-2007, 09:20

Hi everyone. I've just been reading some of the comments on dream feeds & waking bubs for a feed etc. Hope I'm not too late to keep the topic going. We usually wake Liam at 10:30pm for his last feed for the night and he then sleeps through until 7am usually. He doesn't get upset from being woken up and takes his feed okay, but is usually pretty sleepy. He is then pretty easy to settle back to sleep. Occasionally he has lots of jerky movements after we've fed him because I think he's so tired.......so from that perspective I feel a bit mean waking him, but most of the time he seems okay.

Harleyq - I loved those photos of Coen! Very cute I agree.......I know what you mean about loving him to bits.....I keep staring at Liam in amazement every day he's just so cute!

LMenz - have you introduced the late night feed of formula yet or decided not to? Are you thinking of this so that Jack will sleep longer during the night?

MiasMum1 - welcome! Sounds like you've been doing a fantastic job so far........yes breast feeding is hard work so don't feel bad about giving up. Like you I wanted to exclusively BF but it didn't work out but I'm going to try with the next bub!

Hels - where is she??? I'm going to send her a PM. She's pretty popular I've noticed :yes:

Me - Liam is smiling away and giggling too which is georgeous. He's also started to babble a bit and make other sounds it's so lovely! Oh oh....he's just started stiring so I better go to him :o

shelby

21-05-2007, 10:04

I am also still in pjs.....am going to get going to target soon as they have a sale on babies clothes....

I think Olivia is having a growth spurt - thanks everyone for your responses. Last night she was up every 4 hours which is unlike her, she normally goes 7-8 hrs at night. Its right on time for the 3 month growth spurt but it has made me want to give up BFing a little - Im so buggered!

Will post more later just a quick :wave: for now

*Sparkles*

21-05-2007, 10:48

Hi girls :wave:
Thanks to those who have been asking after me, it's nice to be missed :p

I've had a busy weekend and I've been taking a little break from the net as it was taking over my life a bit :rolleyes: Plus the laptop crashed last week when I was in live chat and the whole network broke down so DH has spent all weekend fixing it. I think it has something to do with MSN :eek:

I bought a jolly jumper on a frame from eBay last week and we picked it up last night. It took 1 1/2 hours in the car to get there & back and R slept the whole time. I can't wait to start using it but I think he needs a bit more head control first. Anyone else got one yet?

I have also bought some space bags and put all of R's small clothes away and I will sell some of them along with a few other bits and pieces. I need to get a bit of money back to cover what I have been spending lately lol.

Sorry no personals yet, I've got a few pages of posts to catch up on so I'll be back later.

BTW Melb girls, the meet is still on for this thursday at Sandy's place at 11am. (Assuming that's still ok with you Sandy?)

MiasMum1

21-05-2007, 10:59

Thank you so much for all your replies and support ladies!

SuperFrog - I have babysat kids since i was the age of 14, so i've always been around babies and kids, and always wanted my own no matter what, but never really had hands on experience, so i guess babysitting had given me a heads up on a lot of things.
I have been pretty strong, well i kinda have to be with DH away working all the time i can't really afford to breakdown, i never got the baby blues and haven't cried yet to this day, (touch wood) so i think i have coped really well with it all too.
:laughing: i was in my pj's til nearly lunch time yest while doing all my housework, so this morning i was up, mia up, mia fed, both showered and dressed by 9, so thats really good for me!

harleyq - thank you!! that means alot to me, some mums give you the cold shoulder when they find out you switched to formula at 6-7 weeks, and most of the time i can't be bothered with them trying to tell them why, if they're not willing to listen and understand then i'm not explaining myself, i probably shouldn't have to anyway! And that was my arguement i can't afford to stress out and fall to pieces over it, i need to stay mentally healthy for bubs sake too.

JoJoMart - YAY! a fellow bottle feeder! Same, i would really love to be able to breastfeed next time round, i'm not going to let this bad experience deter me away from trying again!

Well i can hear miss Mia, better go.
Later!

LMenz

21-05-2007, 11:17

LMenz - have you introduced the late night feed of formula yet or decided not to? Are you thinking of this so that Jack will sleep longer during the night?

Na...I think I wrote that out of desperation. I still may do it....It would be intersting to see if he would sleep longer. Jack's weight gains have been so big I don't think he's hungry but I find it's very easy to doubt yourself when breastfeeding...I always worry if he's getting enough food.

BTW Melb girls, the meet is still on for this thursday at Sandy's place at 11am. (Assuming that's still ok with you Sandy?)

I am! Looking forward to see you all. Hels great to have you back :)

LMenz

21-05-2007, 11:19

I bought a jolly jumper on a frame. Anyone else got one yet?

Yep...I haven't used it yet either. The info on the box says from 3 months but I don't think Jack's head control is quiet ready yet.

MiasMum1

21-05-2007, 11:27

I bought a jolly jumper on a frame from eBay last week and we picked it up last night.

Yep...I haven't used it yet either. The info on the box says from 3 months but I don't think Jack's head control is quiet ready yet.

We also got one as a present before Mia was even born, it's one that hangs from the door frame though, has a tigger pouch and sings and plays music, but it says 4 months, Mia is pretty strong in her neck and head, been holding her head well since 2 weeks old, and is very strong in the legs! I'm just wondering whether to try her in it yet or not...?!

my_lot

21-05-2007, 11:46

i had a jolly jumper for dd1 it was on a frame- tho could be used on the door too (we used to take it to grandmas) we used it at about 5-6 months, when she could sit alone. i think they are a lot of fun... we used to put ours in a tray of water and she loved to splah on the way down, i can still hear that giggle in my head now!

and they are better than a walker thats for sure. after our neighbour told us a horror story of her little one going down their garage stairs and hitting head first into cement at the bottom, im glad we dont own one of them! they had a wooden door gate there and this little one pushed it with the frame of the walker and went down. so sad.

were going to have a big night tonight. dds doing their confirmation. weve had 4 weeks of classes and an all day prep at the church and tonight the bishop will arrive and 110 kids are having it done at the same time!

its very exciting for me!

ds1 was baptised and confirmed "in case of death" in hospital so i wont get this chance again til Eli has his in about 8 years time!

so the dresses are ready and all the baptism "jewels" (as tehy call them) are polished.

ds says he doesnt want to go "church is borning" i think dp would agree! but i dont care theyre going and thats that! im very excited!

Roopee

21-05-2007, 12:54

miasmummy- a big welcome to you. Im also a bottle feeder. I've just had my 4th baby in 6 years so i've never really got out of that "baby" stage! Its hard going but great in many other ways too.

jollyjumpers yep, we have one and we love it here. Cody is not quite ready for it yet though-maybe another month and she'll be in there. We did the tray of water thing too- wow the kids love that!

still in pj's- i wish! LOL.

my-lot Hope the kids have a great confirmation today!!

us- well Dh has worked all weekend and so have i. Funny really....how when he goes to work he just has to get himself up and off he goes....yet....when i go i have to get up at 6.30am so im showered dressed etc in time.Then have to get kids dressed, fed, teeth cleaned, hairdone, throw on a load of washing or 3, sweep the floors, unpack and reload dishwasher, load the kids in the car, get them to whoever is minding them nd get to work. Come home and do the whole thing again in reverse. He gets to come home and chill on the lounge.,while im cooking dinner, feeding bubby, tidying up etc etc etc..why is that i wonder? Too many years living with his mother i think:rolleyes:. Oh and then when i do finally get to bed, he rolls over and puts the hard word on me???? Errrrr yes, darling nothing would please me more" Oh puhlease!!!!!!!!! Get a doll or something-my chores are finished for the day!:o

Sorry....just had to have that little rant!

LMenz

21-05-2007, 13:08

Get a doll or something-my chores are finished for the day!

:laughing: :laughing: PMSL

blubber

21-05-2007, 13:11

First things first. Elly had a feed at 6.45pm last night went to bed at 8.15 and she got up at 7.45am this morning. OMG...you just can't pick it. DH is away for the next couple of days for work so hope it continues

Welcome MiasMum:
Another bottle feeder here. I struggled and struggled with DD1 (Mia) being breastfeed and we swapped to Bottle. I was willing to try with DD2 (Elly) but faced the same problems, no milk, and all the common problems. I always described it as every time they would latch on as getting the worst chinese burn you could imagine. DD1 is a happy, healthy and intelligent 3 year old so no regrets.
In regard to the hospitals reaction at a private one in Adelaide they were so negative about just giving Mia a top up feed on the fourth day. So much so that when i lost it the midwife turned to DH and said "what is wrong with her" . We moved and had Elly in Broken Hill. They were fantastic and all about keeoing me sane and enjoying the moment.

Jolly Jumpers: had one for Mia and she hated it. But she loved her walker... no cement garages in sight though.

Leashie: Elly is going well on the AR formula. SHe has had a cold and the transiton took a couple of days but all seems to be working out.

DreamFeeds: It is such a double edge sword. Do or don't you, when do you stop etc. Our problem is Elly STILL!! is not in any significant, or make that loosely based late arvo/evening routine. Sometimes she is in bed over tea time others she is up. Other words she is either having a feed around 6.30-7 or it is 8-8.30. Not sure how to get her around this? She has never had a problem sleeping during the day.

I wish i was in Melbourne, hope you have a great day when you catch up.

SuperFrog

21-05-2007, 13:12

Get a doll or something-my chores are finished for the day!:o

Bwah ha ha ha ha ha! :laughing:

mumslilspunks

21-05-2007, 14:42

I'm back......:wave:
WOW you ladies have been busy. i had nearly 10 pages to catch up on! :laughing:
Wont be doing any personals till later but just thought id jump on and say gday.
Had a lovely weekend my bum is so sore( TMI) and i told DH iff he wants be to get back on the harley he has to get me a new seat.:yes:
We only got rained on in Apolo Bay (sp) and it was great to have a break from the kids. Wouldnt you know it Billy slept from 830pm sat night till 7am sun morning :banghead: MIL and FIL must have worn him out.
Back soon better unpack and start some dinner.

SuperFrog

21-05-2007, 15:33

Poo defies the law of gravity... I just found it spread all up his back right up to his neck. How does that work? :confused: :laughing:

blubber

21-05-2007, 15:46

Superfrog: amazing how it goes the other way. Elly had it under her arm pits once!!!

Quick Question: after her efforts last night, feed at 6.45, bed at 8.15 sleep until 7.45 this morning today is different again.
Feed at 8.00 small snooze then out until 1ish this arvo, home to bed at 2.00 and she is still there. Only had two bottles all day!! Do I get her up or let her go. Trying to predict tonight i guess! After such a good night you really want to copy what you did yesterday but she is nowhere near where she was feeding yesterday.
mmm frustrated at the inconsistancy

harleyq

21-05-2007, 15:55

Can't wait for Thursday!!! Yep still fine with me!

The jolly jumpers sound good... l might have to get us one of those in the near future!!!

Roopee - You crack me up!!! Honestly l am in awe of you and My_lot - l am exhausted with one!!!

We asked the mCHN today at mums group about the dreamfeeds (i.e. to wake or not to wake)... she suggested not to... who knows??? it looks like Coen is asleep now (in his baby carrier) - l wonder if he is going to do another big sleep like the other day or a nap??? It makes it all the more difficult when they are unpredictable (hats off to all of you who have routines)

MY_lot - enjoy the confirmations!!!

LMenz

21-05-2007, 16:16

Well Jack is still asleep.......He's only been up for about 3 hours today. Weird??? I think it's because he's sick though.....I feel a bit lost actually. I'm so used to having him up all the time (even thought I whinge about it)

He would normally be having his bath now but I'm going to let him sleep I think.

Sandy - Everyone seesm to have a different opinion about the dreamfeed...I still haven't tried. Once Jack's feeling better I will.

Ren - Your mini break sounded like fun!

Blubber - I sympathise with the inconsistancy...Jack is all over the place with sleeps and feeding. It's hard work having a bub who doesn't like routine.

my_lot - Hope the confirmation goes well...looking forward to seeing the photo's

Penny - I see your light is on....are you home??

ziggy29

21-05-2007, 17:27

Hi ladies! I'm back - did you miss me??

I have so missed all of you :hugs: and have checked in from time to time on how all you and your little ones are doing.

My head is in a much better place now. The PND is still lurking but we have more good days than bad now. I go out of the house most days to see other mums or my family.

Lily is so cute - i just want to eat her up! no giggles yet but lots of talking and squealing. and she just loves sucking her middle 2 fingers (saves me having to give her the dummy :smiliedance: )

Congratulations eskimo mumma and welcome to all newbies (lots of new people to meet is great).

Im sharon and lily is my first baby - we live in brisbane. lily is a napper in the day and has reflux and in the past i have been quite strict with her routine. i am chilling out a bit more now and hopefully we will find some middle ground.

Lily was 2.7kgs born and is now 6.1kgs so i am happy. She is BF but we do a formula dream feed (i am so over expressing).... and she slept through last night!!! wonder if she will ever do that again??

look foward to catching up on all your news.

juzzy

21-05-2007, 18:03

ziggy welcome back! We missed you, big :hugs: sounds like lily is doing great! Hope you are well!

dreamfeeds we dont really do it. Cassidy is generally awake from about 7pm til about 930-10 when she goes to bed to sleep until about 7am (except the last few mornings when she has been up at about 4am for another feed... growth spurt or something?)

Jolly jumpers i have heard that they are really great. I might check out ebay and see what i can find.

As for me, we had an ok weekend. Went to see my sister in Geelong on Saturday morning which was good considering we dont see each other very much. Saturday afternoon we had lunch with DPs sister. Yesterday DP and i went out to a movie and left Cassidy with DPs sister again. She did well, almost like she didnt miss me at all!

I am thinking about buying some flanelette sheets for the cot as Cassi's room gets really cold at night and ealry morning, i am thinking that this could also be another reason why she is waking up at odd hours even though i have been putting a sheet over her as well as the blanket that she is wrapped in. Has anyone used flanelette sheets? would it be too warm for her, considering shes still wrapped?

Anyway, im a bit lost at the moment, Cassidy has been asleep since about 4pm and im hoping she wakes up soon so it doesnt mess with our routine too much. Im also suffering with a bit of a headcold so am feeling a bit down in the dumps as well.

Hope everyone is well.

LMenz

21-05-2007, 18:09

Hi Ziggy :wave: So glad your back! How long have you been doing the formula dreamfeed? I've been thinking of doing the same myself. How much do you give her?

Juz - I have flanelette sheets on Jack cot. His room gets pretty cold. I always feel him before I go to bed and he doesn't seem hot. Hope your cold gets better soon :D

juzzy

21-05-2007, 18:14

thanks lauren hehe im a bit of ebay addict at the moment, so think i might buy some off there.

Hope your sleep issues are sorting out as well :hugs:

*Sparkles*

21-05-2007, 18:35

It was a cold one in Melb last night and today, so I rugged up R last night and he didn't wake up once. DH said he looked like he was about to go skiing :laughing: Here is a photo;
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Reece/Snuggly1.jpg

Friends of ours had a little baby girl today, 6lbs 9oz they haven't decided on a name yet. It was a caesarean as the baby was breech. We will most likely go and see them tomorrow evening, I can't wait to see a newborn again.

I have started to crochet again. It was something I used to do as a child and it's been many years since I did any, but amazingly it all came back to me. I am making a blanket for R and will then get more adventurous. I am hoping to make some items to sell on eBay.

Better go, dinner is almost ready :D

harleyq

21-05-2007, 18:51

ZIggy - I am glad to hear that you are feeling better these days�
Juzzy � look after yourself, hope you feel better soon
Temperature - l ended up getting one of those groeggs for Coen�s room (which happens to be our room also at the moment) � a long story but l had money l had to spend at one of the baby stores and it is all that appealed to me at the time� it has worked out well though, they say the optimum temperature for a baby�s room is between 16-20 degrees� so my rule is, 20+ just the muslin wrap, once it drops below 20 he gets a blanket on him as well� when we wake up during the night he doesn�t seem cold despite it occasionally dropping to around 16 (and once under 16 cos the egg went blue)� but as the nights get colder and/or we stop wrapping Coen we will have to re-evaluate our options.
When are people going to stop wrapping? � I found this advice on the net� �It is usually recommended to start loosening the wrap with a view to not using it at all once your baby starts rolling over.�

Does it ever get easier to settle a baby to sleep, DH spend 30 minutes with Coen tonight, then l went in and spent another 15 minutes...he finally went down only to wake 15 minutes later (he quickly settled again)... l just find myself wondering if its ever going to get any easier???

Sorry - l am exhausted - l know Coen has been sleeping better than he ever has before, but other than the past two nights, l have had real trouble falling back to sleep after he wakes up, sometime lying awake for half the night... l think it is just catching up on me... an early night for me!!

Good on you Hels for taking up the crocheting again!!

Juzzy - have you decided on whether to do that course?

juzzy

21-05-2007, 19:09

sandy we are still wrapping Cassidy as she wont sleep any other way or wakes herself too easily. She is no where near rolling over yet, so i dont think it will be an issue for us for a little bit longer.

I am going to try a warmer blanket on her cot and see how that goes. I got up to her at 4am this morning and her room was SOOOOO cold, no wonder she woke up. We have one of those oil filled heaters, i was thinking about giving that a go as a last resort as i can control the temperature on that.

As for the course, we are still thinking about it. TBH i havent had a chance to give it much thought since i mentioned it. I can barely function atm. But i am hoping to do it as, like i said, i feel like i am rotting my brain by not working or studying!

LMenz

21-05-2007, 19:20

Does it ever get easier to settle a baby to sleep, DH spend 30 minutes with Coen tonight, then l went in and spent another 15 minutes...he finally went down only to wake 15 minutes later (he quickly settled again)... l just find myself wondering if its ever going to get any easier???

I find Jack settles really well at night now we have been really consistant with his bed routine - 5.30 he is bathed, 6.00 feed, 6.30 bed, wrapped and book. 8 times out of 10 he will go to sleep without crying provided he's not overtired. I think he finally (:fingerscrossed: ) associates this routine with sleep time

His day settling is a WHOLE other matter!!! I hope it gets easier too. It's quiet exhausting helping him fall asleep every single time he has a nap. One thing I have been doing lately is putting him in his cot a bit earlier and having quiet playtime in there before he needs to sleep. I'll let you know if it makes any difference long term

Also don't forget babies tired signs change around 3 months. Jack now yawns and rubs his eyes before the jerky movements and clenched fists start. As soon as I see that first yawn he's in his cot so fast I'm suprised his little head doesn't spin :laughing:

I also can't get back to sleep at night after his feed :banghead: I thought it would get better over time but it's getting worse - this is part of my reason for trying a dreamfeed.

Well better get off this computer...I think I'm addicted!

blubber

21-05-2007, 19:35

Just typed up a reply and lost the lot...mmm not happy. Brain is dead and may remember tomorrow. ALthoug DH is way and i bet i come back tonight at some stage!

bAaM

21-05-2007, 19:41

Hi guys
:smiliedance: Ziggy your back we have missed you heaps. I'm glad your feeling better.
I have started a mums group on the north side if you are interested in coming i no its a long way out but i would love to meet you. The next one is this wednsday and Tegan (butterflymumma) is coming as well so would love for u to come.

No personals from me tonight i'm still sick and my eyes feel like they are about to pop out, i've got larengites (sp) as well so my voice is gone. M has been so good to me as well while i've been sick and for once DP is helping me with the house work as i have just a little bit of obsessive compulsive disorder lol and scream and yell about a drop of water on the ground but its a bit hard to yell ATM so i just give the look.

Have a good one guys.
Alicia
xxxxx

ziggy29

21-05-2007, 20:41

lily has between 150ml and 190ml of formula at the dream feed. the beauty of it whatever she doesnt have goes down the sink (not emotional like ebm). it really dosent make her poos smell as bad as a thought it would!!

i seem to rug lily up much more than some of you. but i find if she has extra layers she will sleep through that cold 4-5am time - we do singlet and bonds suit; a grow bag and 3-4 cotton blankets (the ones with the holes in them) nursey temp hasnt dropped below 20 deg yet.
i think that although it is important to be vigalent about overheating i think i was letting lily freeze - she just loves being toasty.
the growbags are great - they cant kick them off or put them over their heads!

leashie i am busy this wed but can maybe come another time. when you say you are a northside group how far north do you mean?

hels - what a cutie. we have the same play mat!

Squiggles

21-05-2007, 20:42

Geez - I dont log on for 48 hours and I cant keep up...

Hels - Glad you are back, we were lost without "our leader" :laughing:

Ziggy - Welcome back too!! So glad you decided to join us again. Good to hear from you!!

Juzzy - Connor sleeps in a grobag (www.grobag.com.au), you can get them on ebay. It keeps him perfect temp and he doesn't wake at all. Dont have to worry about him slipping under the covers or kicking them off etc. They are pretty $$$ but well worth it. Connor loves his, he snuggles up in it (so cute)

Us - Well yesterday was a strange day it was our very first wedding anniversary!!! DH and I went out for a really really nice lunch, only prob was that I had a massive massive tantrum in the morning as I can't fit into any of my nice clothes and the restaurant we went to wasn't a jeans type of place. I ended up Squeezing (and I mean squeezing) into one of my suits. So today am feeling like a big fatty and need to get a whole new wardrobe or get on the treadmill and work my *** off!!

I think Connor has a cold too - he has been coughing and having screaming fits during the day and I can't seem to find any other explanation for them - its horrible he's normally such an ultra placid baby. Went out with my mum today and he had a massive screamer in Myer. Mum was really upset as she couldn't clam him and I was off looking at clothes and could hear him in another department - had to go and try and calm him - couldn't. Ended up leaving and calling DH, as I was getting a bit panicked as he was turning bright red and wouldn't stop screaming and crying, I was going to take him to the doctors but he pretty much passed out in the car so I took him home. Hes a sleep now. See how he is tomorrow.

Penny - Where are you??? Hope your neck is feeling better

Ren - Apollo bay is really nice, glad you had a nice break (apart from the rain)

off to bed now, sorry for those I didn't reply too.

mummy2oceana

21-05-2007, 20:43

Just a quick one

Harleyq - It will get better.. I perservered with Sienna from as early as I could with a routine. She has a bath at 6:30, Bottle at 7, and after a good burp I wrap her and put her down. She does cry now and again.. alot less then she used too, so I know its working for us.

Do you have a set routine? All i can suggest is to just keep going and be as consitent as you can :) It will definately get better

as for wrapping I dont know LOL... I am planning to take one arm out at a time and do it gradually LOL, at she loves being wrapped i'm happy when she is

bAaM

21-05-2007, 20:46

Hey Ziggy do u no where pine rivers is Kallangur northlakes petrie ect....
Thats where we are and we normally do it weekly

icugal

21-05-2007, 20:48

Good evening girlies...

Excuse my absence over the last couple of days... I have no fabulous excuse for not posting... I was just too lazy to do so :) I moved my laptop out of the loungeroom and away from the TV to try to reduce the amount of time I spend online... so now that my lappy is in our study, I'm less likely to sit here for any length of time because I start to feel like a caged animal after awhile... besides, Kaelan has been so clingy of late, I really couldn't be fagged having baby in one hand whilst trying to type out a long one-handed reply with the other.

AND Jack has started giggling My gosh it's the cutest thing ever!

OMG.. Kaelan has started giggling too.. it is seriously the cutest thing I have ever seen !!! I must make an effort to capture it on video.

Just thought i would let you no i have updated my sign and put a link to some photos in it if you want a look

I had a look through your photos and they are great... lovely little family you have there !!

Please check out these New photos of Coen
l think they're gorgeous, but perhaps l'm biased

Beautiful photos of a beautiful baby... I still love his hair !!!

As for the meet up at your house this week, I should be able to make it.. My neck is still sore which makes it hard to turn my head properly (changing lanes on a freeway has become like a game of russian roulette *LOL* ), but I should be able to drive there no worries. Looking forward to seeing everyone again.

We're bottlefeeders...so my little munchkin is a pretty good sleeper, i can't complain really. I feel so sorry for all the mum's getting no sleep, i was the same until Mia was 6-7 weeks old, i was having to feed her every half an hour, in the end i just couldn't do it anymore, i was a walking zombie and thought being like this i'm eventually going to do more harm than good, to either myself or bubs. That's why we switched to formula, i know some parents are really against formula feeding, but it was a lifesaver for us, so i hope nobody holds it against me...pleeease..!

Firstly, welcome to our humble little group !!! I'm Penny, mum to 3.5 month old Kaelan.. who is also formula fed and has been exclusively since he was 5 weeks old. A lot of mums formula feed here, so you don't have to worry about being judged for it.

Then i had 5 different nurses come in throughout my hosp stay and tell me 5 different ways of how i SHOULD breastfeed, please!! they succeeded in confusing me...haha!

I'll never forget visiting Kaelan in the Special Care Nursery after having my Caesar.. and this b*tch of a midwife there ripped shreds through me because I wasn't breastfeeding 'properly' (according to her standards)... The thing that upset me the most (and she REALLY upset me... damn hormones) was that I was only doing what I had been taught by the previous midwife who had assisted me on the ward. I felt like I was stuck between a rock and a hard place... I just couldn't win. As much as I love midwives... they seriously do need to get their education practices and techniques for breastfeeding standardised before unleashing all their frustrations on a very tired, very sore, emotionally drained first-time new mum.

Sorry, that became a bit of a vent :D

I bought a jolly jumper on a frame from eBay last week and we picked it up last night. It took 1 1/2 hours in the car to get there & back and R slept the whole time. I can't wait to start using it but I think he needs a bit more head control first. Anyone else got one yet?

We were given a free-standing Jolly Jumper (like yours) as a gift from DF's work when Kaelan was born. I'm thinking that K will probably be able to try it in another month or so, but I think I might still wait a little bit.

Geez, with starting solids and using things like Jolly Jumpers.. the next few months are going to be so much fun !!

Poo defies the law of gravity... I just found it spread all up his back right up to his neck. How does that work?

It's scary how far poo can spread... and as a nurse, can I just say that this phenomenon is not just limited to young babies. Ever changed an adult nappy??? Not nice :barf: (god I miss that smiley *LOL*)

Penny - I see your light is on....are you home??

Hehehe.. sprung !! But just not motivated enough to reply until now :)

Hi ladies! I'm back - did you miss me??

Of course we missed you !! Welcome back darl. Glad to hear you're feeling better !!

I am thinking about buying some flanelette sheets for the cot as Cassi's room gets really cold at night and ealry morning, i am thinking that this could also be another reason why she is waking up at odd hours even though i have been putting a sheet over her as well as the blanket that she is wrapped in. Has anyone used flanelette sheets? would it be too warm for her, considering shes still wrapped?

I have flannalette sheets on Kaelan's cot right now and I LOVE them !! Infact I even bought some more today (Target have 25% off nursery manchester atm... so go buy them now !!). He doesn't seem to get too hot.

As for me... I worked again on Saturday night. It hasn't quite sunk in yet that my cruisey life at home without work is officially over now. At least it is only one day a week though, so not too taxing !! *LOL*

As Hels mentioned, it's suddenly got cold in Melbourne and yesterday we had to rug Kaelan up to go shopping. He looked SO cute with his little hat and blanket on, so I took a photo of him in his pram with my mobile phone (didn't have a camera with me)

Click for extreme cuteness (http://www.penny-clark.com/temp/warm_K.jpg)

Kaelan also rolled over from his tummy to his back the other night... though I suspect that it was purely by accident. I put him down on his tummy (he is suddenly holding his head up properly, also a new development).. and I jokingly said to him as I walked off "Now when I get back, I expect you to have learnt how to roll over". I turned around about 30 seconds later and he was on his back.. but crying. I think he got a little frustrated being on his tummy so he got himself so worked up, that he must have accidently flipped himself over and in the process, gave him himself a fright !! *LOL*

Good god, this post has taken forever to type out !!!

harleyq

22-05-2007, 07:18

Penny - welcome back!! glad to hear your neck is a bit better, l have your sleeping bag so l hope you can make it this Thursday (but only if it is safe). What a gorgeous photo of Kaelan... Coen doesn't seem to like hats... which is a pitty cos babies look so cute with them, l will continue to persist... (thanks for the tips on the target sale... keep these tips coming everyone - oh that reminds me, does anybody have huggies on sale atm??? -- l refuse to buy them full price and l am starting to run low - probalby a weeks supply left)

Routine - we have a loose routine, he has a feed, we wrap him and put him in his cot reading him a few stories.... every second day he has a bath before this process... l think you are all right we need to make it more consistent and perhaps attach a permanent time to it... atm its just when he starts looking tired... which is usually 7-8.30...
thanks for sharing...

Squiggles - happy anniversary, the 1st one is extra special.... I know what you mean about the clothes....

LMenz

22-05-2007, 07:38

oh that reminds me, does anybody have huggies on sale atm??? --

Yep Coles do...the big box is only $31.95 for 90 nappies

Also...thought I would share this with you guys. My MCHN said giving a bath at night can add up to an hour extra sleep time. Jack now has a bath everynight :yes:

NoMoreScuba

22-05-2007, 07:51

Hi everyone,

Apologies for not posting for ages, I just can't keep up with everything! But I do try and read as often as I can...

Baths - I also heard that giving them a bath can make them sleep longer, hence charlie gets bathed every night now. But for some reason he's started screaming in it, which is weird as he used to love his bathtime!

Dreamfeed - my MCN also said she wouldn't bother with this, and if the baby was asleep then just leave them be. I did try it a few times, but I hate waking him up, so I gave up. Charlie is now sleeping from between 6 and 6.30pm until about 4 when he wakes up for a feed, and then until 7ish. I don't mind the 4am feed too much so I think we'll just stick with that for now.

Nappies - I moved onto aldi nappies, which I find to be excellent - I haven't had a leaker at all! Maybe Charlie's bum is just the right shape for them or something?!!

Cot bedding - I'm struggling to keep charlie warm at the moment. I use a couple of those brushed cotton blankets doubled up, plus a sheet on him (he's not wrapped any more) and I think he's warm enough at the moment, but his little hands are always freezing! The temp is about 20C right now. I'm thinking of buying a really nice wool blanket as that will be warmer. I want to get him grobags, but I think we'll wait until he's a bit bigger and get the next size otherwise there's going to be lots of wasted money on the smaller ones.

Hi to the newbies - I'm sarah and my baby charlie is 3 and a bit months old. He's not giggling yet, so I'm constantly making a fool of myself trying to make him laugh! He just gives me withering looks and occasionally makes snorting noises, but i get lots of smiles!

Better go as I can hear him waking up. He still isn't into his daysleeps and will generally only go for 45 mins or so...

my_lot

22-05-2007, 08:19

. I'm thinking of buying a really nice wool blanket as that will be warmer. I want to get him grobags, but I think we'll wait until he's a bit bigger and get the next size otherwise there's going to be lots of wasted money on the smaller ones.
..

i use the sleeping bags from big W they are about $12 i think. i get size 1 because i need them longer to put his monitor in the bottom of it. its not too big around the chest or arms.

hi ziggy- welcome back. glad you are getting out and about and feeling better.

i know the cotton blankets s your talking about... and i tend to use that doubled over where as another blanket i dont. i think they are better for cooler months than bang smack in winter.

Eli is really a hot bub, has been since birth.

my last two needed to be warm in the early weeks they couldnt hold their temp either being prems and i used a lot more bedding with them and they were just nice and toasty.

eli sleeps in a singlet, cotton suit or bonds suit (depending on how cold the house is when i dress him for bed ) wrapped with a sheet and one of those cotton blankets til his last feed ((well the last before midnight!) then i put him back down in the sleeping bag, wrap with the sheet and use one knitted blanket on top.

the sheet i use is a flat cot sheet.

he is sleeping ON a polar fleece blanket, not a sheet.

i still wrap and will for a long time yet. all my kids were wrapped til 5-6 months and my last a lot longer than that.

juzzy

22-05-2007, 08:42

last night Cassidy slept from 1030 til 715 this morning. I put her to bed in a singlet and a wondersuit. I wrapped her in her blanket had a polar fleece blanket over her as well as a lighter blanket both tucked into the cot. She was nice and toasty when i went to bed and that seems to have done the trick for the moment (hopefully until i can get something warmer for her at least)

Thanks for the advice with the grobags they are a little exxy for my liking but i guess u could just get something similar thats cheaper. I think i will get one when i dont need to wrap her anymore.

Sandy sorry, cant help you with the Huggies sale, perhaps try toysrus cause they usually have them at a good price. Or, try babylove, they are great nappies havent had a leak since ive started using them.

Penny glad that your neck is better!

Hels welcome back, glad to hear everything is ok

As for me, well i am still sick. So i am struggling along. Got my pj's on and am wrapped up in a blanket with the heater roaring. Am thinking about going for a walk later as i could use the fresh air. Cassi is asleep in the bouncer, hopefully she stays there for a bit dont have the energy to do much at the moment

HarrisonsMum

22-05-2007, 09:15

Hello all,
Gee you go away for four days and its like reading a novel to catch up!:laughing:

Well dh and i had a good night at the crusty demons show and i survived well without harrison. He had a great time at grandmas. When we picked him up he didn't even want to come home he was having so much fun.:D He kept smiling at grandma and grandad and really couldn't give a hoot that we were back. I guess thats good but made me feel a bit sad.:(

JUZZY: i wrap harrison at night (polyester) and he sleeps on flanelette with a blanket(cotton).Cassidy has lots of hair and is georgeous. Harrison has a bald patch at the back and has lost quite a bit of hair.

MON: my dr said that once babies are over 5kg that you can cut out the night feeds and that they will wake sometimes out of habit rather than hunger.

Heloo to all the newbies

Harrison had a cold a while ago and now has a bit of a cough. My CHN said to put some euky bearrub on his singlet to help with the stuffy nose. I am now doing this every night and it seems to be keeping the stuffy nose at bay. He also then smells delicious.

HELS: i to have got back into craft. I'm knitting a blanket (can't crotchet) will have to try and learn I've also been doing cross stitch.Makes me feel like my brain can still do non baby things.

MY_LOT: how was the confirmation?

NO MORE SCUBA: when harrison screams in the bath i put the warm washer over his belly and it calms him right down.

I think i've raved enough.:ecomcity:

EskimoMumma

22-05-2007, 09:24

:detective: Did your DR have any studies to back this claim up??

juzzy

22-05-2007, 09:26

JUZZY: i wrap harrison at night (polyester) and he sleeps on flanelette with a blanket(cotton).Cassidy has lots of hair and is georgeous. Harrison has a bald patch at the back and has lost quite a bit of hair.

Tt hanks Bernie, She does have a lot of hair but still has a massive bald patch at the back of her head... It did start to grow back for awhile there but she has managed to rub all the hair off again!

my_lot

22-05-2007, 09:34

hi harrisons mum i forgot to post about the confirmation after ready about the grow suits and bedding!

it was great! the girls looked really nice. we were told not to go to trouble with their outfits that it wasnt done like the 'olden days' where they looked like little brides! well we saw one little girl in that and she looked so sweet. a few boys all dressed up but a lot wore what id dress mine in to see a movie. so i guess each parents idea of it was different! they were given a nice cross each from the church and they got some very nice gits from their sponsor and his wife and their family.. we gave them a silver jewellery box each... they were so excited to be confirmed by the bishop and not 'just' Father..

ds behaved the whole night ( heres hoping he will do the same in a few weeks time for the baptism) they all had their pic taken with the bishop. i have no pics of the confirmation itself as we were told not to take any ( bishop doesnt like the flash!!) but someone did take pics of each child and we will get them at a later date. so it was a great night, shame my family couldnt be here, i would have loved their Godparents to have been, but they are all coming in 2 weeks time for Eli's baptism so im happy about that.

also gives me something to look forward to. i feel very alone with this bub and no family and few friends to share the ride with...i cant wait to have everyone here and together.

ill put a pic of the girls with the bishop in my profile.

JoJoMart

22-05-2007, 09:49

Juzzy - I hope you are feeling better soon. I feel like I've been fighting a cold for weeks now & still haven't come down with it thank god.

NoMoreScuba - I do the dreamfeed with Liam......we wake him around 10pm or later for the feed. He usually takes 150-200ml but I have to admit I hate waking him! If I let him sleep it would be interesting to see how long he would sleep for without a feed? Probably wake around 2am I reckon.

Nappies - I've just started trying the Safeway 'Select' brand of nappies (crawler). I find they still leak if the nappy gets really full but probably no worse than Huggies. I still prefer Huggies but might stick with the Safeway ones as they are cheaper. I also want to try Aldi.

Blankies & wrapping - we no longer wrap Liam. He seems to sleep fine with a singlet & wondersuit/bodysuit, cotton or flannelette sheets and a cotton cellular blanket or something warmer if it's really cold. We have central heating so I have to be careful not to put too many layers on top. The nurse recommended a sleeping bag the other day.

Has anyone's child health nurse said to keep the hands and feet uncovered (no scratch mittens or socks?). Mine said for their mental development they needs these free for hand to feet coordination and to be able to put their hands in their mouths etc. I don't usually use scratch mittens but do use socks during the day his feet get cold.

HarrisonsMum

22-05-2007, 10:13

eskimomumma: i don't know sometimes i tink its just his opinion when he tells me things. Harrison just gave up the night feed on his own and slept through.

I ve put some new photos in my zoints feel free to look.

*Sparkles*

22-05-2007, 13:43

Hi to the Newbies :wave: I'm Helen and I have a 4 month old boy, he is one of the oldest in this group. Well actually, he was always due in January but I gate crashed this thread ages ago as I thought he might be overdue and become a Feb baby. I liked the girls here so much that I decided to stay :D .

Penny - Nice to see you back and I love the photo of Kaelan all rugged-up. You and I both seem to think along the same wave length eg having a bit of a break from the internet ;) I just wish I could break my chocolate addiction so easily :laughing:

Jo - I was only told not to use mittens but I do at night sometimes as I figure it can't really affect his mental development when he is asleep with his hands beside his head lol. Not sure about the "no socks" though, I wouldn't let him go bare footed during the day, it's too cold. But I can't see how wearing socks or not is going to affect his future IQ, geez sometimes these nurses are so over the top!

Routine - Reece stays awake for approx 2 hours in the day between feeds. Any longer than this and he becomes feral. The evenings are still a bit hit and miss but he settles well in his cot at bedtime. Some nights I have to go in and re-settle him a few times and other nights I don't hear from him. Am I one of the only ones who baths him during the day?
We don't wrap anymore either, I use sleeping bags with a blanket over the top.

Solids - Well, I'm going to take the plunge very soon and start R on some farex (rice cereal) for brekky and then at night. I feel that he is almost ready for something more substantial. Most of the girls in the January thread have started on solids too, but it really depends on the baby (and I'm certainly not doing it just to follow suit). Reece has always been a guts and at 4 months he's about 7kgs already.

I'll try to make it into live chat tonight but it won't be until late as we are going to see our friend's new bub first, oh they have decided on a name now - Ebony

*Sparkles*

22-05-2007, 13:48

Sorry to be a post hog but I have some exciting news...
I just got off the phone from Melb IVF and they have said we can use the same sperm donor for the next bub:smiliedance: All I have to do is make an appointment with them when we are ready to start TTC'ing.
This means that R's brother or sister will be 100% biologically the same.

I have also taken out private health insurance for us all. In 12 mths time this will cover me for some IVF proceedures, my OB and a caesarean in a private hospital. I feel really comfortable now that everything is taken care of :D

Ok, I'm definitely going now, just wanted to share this news as it's put a smile on my face for the rest of the day.

LMenz

22-05-2007, 13:55

That's great news Hels...I'm soo happy for you :D

HarrisonsMum

22-05-2007, 14:40

Congrats Hels thats great! I bet that smile will be on your dial for awhile.
Hey that rhymes:laughing:

juzzy

22-05-2007, 15:16

Thats fantastic news Hels! Hopefully see you in chat tonight, have fun seeing ur friends bubba!

hearing everyone talking about solids, what signs should i be looking for that it is time to start solids? My mum said to me the other day that i should be starting her now (shes just 3 months old), personally i think its too early. I thought the standard was to wait until they are 6 months? Or am i mistaken?

took a trip to target today and bought Cassidy some flannelette sheets for the cot, just waiting until she is awake from her nap before i put them on. Hopefully they keep her warmer tonight.

my_lot

22-05-2007, 15:19

thats great hells!

but do you have to wait for the 12 months?

(or do you want to anyway?)

harleyq

22-05-2007, 15:35

Lauren - thanks for the bath tip, me thinks Coen is getting a bath every night too in that case!
dreamfeed - well l put coen to bed early yesterday (7) and didn't dreamfeed, he was up at 1 and then the usual 4 & 7... so l guess each baby is different... l think we're going to continue w the dreamfeed if he sleeps b4 7.30...
hels - Congratulations, that is fantastic news!!!
Solids - juzzy the recommemdation is 6 months, but as with all things each baby develops differently...
hope to make it in to chat tonight... what time will it begin? oh and can someone please pm me the password?

juzzy

22-05-2007, 15:51

Sandy ive pm'ed you the password. I think we agreed that chat would start at 7? or was it 730? LOL i cant remember! Sorry im not much help!

i think i might be there a bit later, i might try bathing Cassidy tonight and see if we can get an extra hour of sleep out of her. We were putting her in the shower with myself or DP in the mornings but mite bath her tonight to see if it makes a difference. Thanks for the tip lauren

harleyq

22-05-2007, 16:10

I'll be doing the same Juzzy (thanks for the pswd)... Lauren, see what you started!!! :D

LMenz

22-05-2007, 16:17

I'll be doing the same Juzzy (thanks for the pswd)... Lauren, see what you started!!! :D

:laughing: I hope it works for you guys..

We've had another not much sleep day...Jack's had 15 minutes (in my arms) since 2pm. I've fed him both boobs and some expressed milk I had in the freezer, wrapped him and put the radio onto white noise. He's squealled a few times - God I hope he goes to sleep!!!!

I sooo need a drink!

SuperFrog

22-05-2007, 16:18

I'm having a crappy day. Quite literally actually as I have been covered with poo... twice. I wanted to use up the rest of the nappies before moving up a size, but I don't think it is working out so well.

Plus, the plumber had to disconnect our gas to work on something, and discovered a gas leak coming from our stove top. Apparently it has been there for a while :eek: . Legally he couldn't reconnect it, and it is going to cost around $200 to get it fixed. We might as well get a new one, so I'm on the hunt tomorrow. And of course it isn't a standard size. Now I can't cook any dinner, so it will be takeaway for us tonight.

If I can't find a new one soon I guess I will have to think of some creative cooking methods. The oven still works I think, so at least I can do a roast, heat pre-made lasagne, umm... help me out here!

Hels - Congrats on the good news! I didn't know you had Reece via IVF. Either I missed that discussion as I joined up too late, or I have fish memory and forgot after 5 seconds!

Am planning to be around for the chat tonight (don't have to worry about getting dinner ready!) so i guess that will cover other personals.

Are we going to call it "Private Room" again or has someone got a better idea? Don't really want to go offending anyone again, but also don't want a bunch of weirdos there (or are we the weirdos??!). Look forward to chatting to you all soon!

LMenz

22-05-2007, 16:31

He's finally asleep!!! :smiliedance: :smiliedance: It's a bit early for his bed time, no bath, no pj's.......I wonder what time he will wake up??

If it's 40 minutes....Sandy will hear me screaming from her house :laughing:

I'll try and make it to the chat too....I'm not sure of the time either??? Can someone else remember?

juzzy

22-05-2007, 16:35

How about we make it 730? LOL seeing as no one else is here to argue! :laughing:

yeah and i think naming it "private room" is better... no one can get too narky then

lauren Hopefully he stays asleep for a few hours for you.

Mon ive had a crappy day too LOL Cassidy managed to wee on me too today...

LMenz

22-05-2007, 17:03

He woke up after 40 f**king minutes :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

SuperFrog

22-05-2007, 17:31

He woke up after 40 f**king minutes :banghead:

:hugs:

Does he wake up crying, or does he just wake up ready to play?

Look on the bright side though... at least he is sleeping for 40 minutes and is mostly sleeping through the night.

Liam usually only sleeps in 40 minute naps during the day until the early evening. Then he has a 4 hour sleep before his big night sleep. Frustrating trying to get stuff done during the day but I'm learning to work with/around him.

I always bath Liam in the evening as DH and I usually do it together. Every now and then I'll bath him during the day (with the help of MIL at her house) if we are there and he is unsettled, or due to a poo or vomit catastrophe!

Anyone got any good casserole recipes? I don't usually cook them, but I figure I don't need a stove top for them! (won't be served with any rice though :no: )

LMenz

22-05-2007, 18:16

Na he wakes up crying....I would be happy if he wanted to play. I wouldn't even mind if he didn't sleep, as long as he was happy but he's not :crying:

I'm going to take him to see a paediatrican to rule out anything medical.

Sorry to go on again but it's a good place to vent!

SuperFrog

22-05-2007, 18:27

I'm having probs with the live chat crashing. About to give L a bath so hopefully it is better later on.

Squiggles

22-05-2007, 18:36

Hi All,

I might not make it live chat tonight as DH is home sick and Connor is also unwell - screaming fits and crying and generally unsettled (thats Connor not DH :laughing:) and of course the Bill is on - you all know my addiction. So I will see how I go later prob try and jump on after the Bill.

mumslilspunks

22-05-2007, 18:43

Can i please have the pass word too or is it the same as always?

NoMoreScuba

22-05-2007, 20:08

What's the password??!

Anyway, i'm going off to bed in a bit, hope you're having a good chat, i'll join you some other time...

mumslilspunks

22-05-2007, 20:14

Well as you lovely ladies no coz of live chat my DH has left me. Im sorry i signed out so early but my brain is having a bit of a fizz.
I feel like every time i get on here im having a life crisis!? My posts lately have been all about me.:banghead:
Im so sorry that i havent done personals but i have read everyones post and i am thinking about each and everyone of you!!
Im just unsure of what to do next, do i move back to melb with my parents (which would probably drive me insane) or do i stay here and wait for him to come back?
Anyhoo im off hope everyone will have a great nite sleep (me included).
Thanks again to you all i truely wouldnt know what to do if i didnt have you guys. You all have been such a 'family' to me. I really appreciate your advice and your big hugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

harleyq

22-05-2007, 20:49

Ren :hugs: it is so hard to know what to do right now, so perhaps just sitting tight for right now is the best thing... do you have people to support you close by?

Don't feel like you need to apologise for focusing on yourself for awhile - we all do it from time to time and you are having a really tough time of things right now - just share/don't share whatever you feel like! If you were in Melbourne l'd be around in a hearts beat to share a cuppa, look after the kids whatever it took to just give you some relief!!!

juzzy

22-05-2007, 21:18

Ren totally no need to apologise, we understand.

I hope everything works out for you and ur DH comes to his senses.

big :hugs: to you :hugs: you are an incredibly strong woman and will work through this.

As Sandy said, id stay put for the meantime until you are sure what is going on. Dont make rash decisions just yet. No matter what you choose im sure you will do what you think is right.

harleyq

22-05-2007, 21:20

Thanks for the chat ladies, that was fun, l laughed heaps and am still smiling!!!
Oh and Kay - l saw your message and l was signing out "quick lets change the password" - you are in big trouble now!!!

my_lot

22-05-2007, 21:40

and then i said...lets lock her out of feb thread....

ha ha ha ha

LMenz

22-05-2007, 21:41

:hugs: :hugs: Hugs Ren were always here for you!

*Sparkles*

22-05-2007, 21:44

thats great hels!

but do you have to wait for the 12 months?

(or do you want to anyway?)

We will start to TTC towards the end of this year, it will be more than 12 mths from now before the next bub is born. Ideally we would like an age gap of 18mths - 2 yrs.

Thats fantastic news Hels! Hopefully see you in chat tonight, have fun seeing ur friends bubba!

hearing everyone talking about solids, what signs should i be looking for that it is time to start solids? My mum said to me the other day that i should be starting her now (shes just 3 months old), personally i think its too early. I thought the standard was to wait until they are 6 months? Or am i mistaken?

They do say to try and wait for 6 mths but every bub is different. The signs I am seeing in R is that he guzzles down his milk (200-225 mls) and seems to want to feed more often and is quite unsettled. I will start the rice cereal as a trial to see if it satisfies him more and settles him. If not, then I will wait longer. I would say that if Cassi seems content with the milk then don't push the solids yet, hope this helps.

Well as you lovely ladies no coz of live chat my DH has left me. Im sorry i signed out so early but my brain is having a bit of a fizz.
I feel like every time i get on here im having a life crisis!? My posts lately have been all about me.:banghead:
Im so sorry that i havent done personals but i have read everyones post and i am thinking about each and everyone of you!!
Im just unsure of what to do next, do i move back to melb with my parents (which would probably drive me insane) or do i stay here and wait for him to come back?
Anyhoo im off hope everyone will have a great nite sleep (me included).
Thanks again to you all i truely wouldnt know what to do if i didnt have you guys. You all have been such a 'family' to me. I really appreciate your advice and your big hugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I must have missed what happened, but just wanted to give you these :hugs: and you know that you would be welcomed to Melb with open arms!

Superfrog - I had insemination with donor sperm to conceive R (my DH is infertile). It's done through Melb IVF but we didn't actually have the IVF procedure last time, although they have said that may be the path for us for the next one (but I hope not).

Sorry I didn't make it into chat tonight, it was too late by the time we got home. It was nice seeing our friends new bub, she looked so tiny. I didn't get a nurse of her as there were alot of family there so we will catch up with them again when they are home. Reece was a bit unsetled being a in a room full of strangers. When we got home I fed him and put him to bed but he cried for quite a while before he went to sleep.
When he does this I have to keep leaving the room for a few minutes and then go back in to settle him. If I stay there then he never stops. It said to do this in my baby bible and it has always worked for us. Thought I would mention this as I know a few of you have settling issues. Tonight was a tough one for us but we got there eventually.

juzzy

22-05-2007, 21:59

They do say to try and wait for 6 mths but every bub is different. The signs I am seeing in R is that he guzzles down his milk (200-225 mls) and seems to want to feed more often and is quite unsettled. I will start the rice cereal as a trial to see if it satisfies him more and settles him. If not, then I will wait longer. I would say that if Cassi seems content with the milk then don't push the solids yet, hope this helps.

Thanks for the advice Hels much appreciated. She does seem quite satisfied with just milk at the moment so it could be quite a while away for me

my_lot

23-05-2007, 06:47

Eli slept well. i woke him at 12 and fed him and he woke at 6:30am to the kids. he has no rash. so its all good.

i will give him farax every afternoon now and still the odd lick of fruits. (he really likes watermelon on his lips!)

juzzy- youll see when shes ready. they have to be able to swallow and some babies dont get that til 6 months or more some are able to at 3-4 months.

ive been putting different things on his lips for him to lick and he is very interested and i was ok to start farax this young because of his reflux and waking at night.

i have to go. my neighbours have just made a complaint to strata about the dog. i am MAD as hell they ar taking it further for us to get rid of him

harleyq

23-05-2007, 08:11

my_lot - did they talk to you about it first? my neighbours did that to me in my old place... l was going to fight them on it. take them to court and everything if it came down to it... but my dog was depressed (she missed my mums dog and having people around her all the time - we'd just moved out and nobody was home during the day) so she went to live w my mum again and l cried for months! Non-animal people suck! FFS its a puppy let it settle in!!!

Purplebird

23-05-2007, 08:11

Hey Ladies,

Occasional poster here :) Feeling very sick with flu, courtesy of my DH. I made him bring the laptop to me in bed! I've missed so many posts- I can never keep up.

:hugs: Ren - I'm so sorry to hear about your DH. I really hope you are coping OK and have some time to think about what you want to do. Hope you have some support around you :hugs:

That's all I feel up to typing at the mo. Sorry, but definitely won't be up to tomorrow, although that was doubtful anyway given our 'car issues'.

Went to 'sleep school' on Monday...it was very helpful. I'll tell you about it when I feel better...:D

LMenz

23-05-2007, 08:16

Eli slept well. i woke him at 12 and fed him and he woke at 6:30am to the kids. he has no rash. so its all good.

:yelclap: Fantastic news Kay! I hope it all works out with your pup

Went to 'sleep school' on Monday...it was very helpful. I'll tell you about it when I feel better...:D

Can't wait to hear about it...Get Well Soon :D

harleyq

23-05-2007, 09:21

Take care of yourself Hannah!!!

Oh l forgot to share my exciting news this morning... Coen slept from 9 till 5.30!!! Yeah!!! He did take 2 hours to get down last night - but when l looked at the clock this morning and it was 5.30 l was very happy and had forgotten all about last night! (maybe the bath did work - who knows). He wasn't really that hungry either... so will see if we can stretch him out a bit longer tonight!!!

Kay - what a good sleep - 6 1/2 hours you wouldn't know yourself!

juzzy

23-05-2007, 09:41

i think the bath was a great idea, cassidy slept from 1015 last night until 8am this morning!! She has been waking up almost every night for the last week at 4am but didnt do it last night! Maybe the bath really did work!

LMenz

23-05-2007, 09:57

my_lot

23-05-2007, 10:20

no the neighbours didnt talk about it first, just went to strata and then put the papers in our mail box.

weve had lots of preoblems with them. and just this year they put in a new water gage for theirs place because we own 60/40 and they think a new baby was going to swing that out- he doesnt want to pay 40% if its not. so now we have to get the mains read and deduct what his gage says and he wants us to sign to agree to this!

he put in a new fence without strata knowing, didnt ask, just did it himself and we didnt say a word (he paid for it tho) he said before hand what it would be like...only thing is thats what it looks like on HIS side! he did all this while i was 4 months pregnant and throwing my guts up, up to 20 times a day and i couldnt get any sleep. he was out there at 6am some mornings and he worked ALL day.

everytime we have people over he goes out the front and tells them not to park out the front of his house. he abused my father for parking there the first time he ever came to see our house.

hes told dp to 'teach' me to back out of our driveway cos i keep going over his corner of lawn! then he put a woooden stake there so if i did go over it.....

hes just a friken idiot. nothing better to do but prune his lawn. he spends all day in his garden and whinges about our not 'being kept'. he told dp in front of the kids he was putting poison on his doorstep so bad luck if the cat eats it.he needs to get a life, he need get a ro0t, smoke some weed whatever but hes picked this fight with the wrong person. i will see this to the end.

dp is at our lawyers now.

Roopee

23-05-2007, 10:24

Ren OMG im so sorry hun! I wasnt in chat last night but i would like to give you some huge:hugs:.
Do whatever your comfortable with in regards to living arrangements. I hope you coping ok mate.
I dont think your being selfish at all and you have every right to be! Remember we're here if you want tochat.

my-lot- oh dear! Do your neighbours have nothing better to do? Seriously....he's a puppy! Let him get used to his new house and he'll be fine! Tell your neighbours to sod off! Make sure that when you see them doing aanything even remotely wrong to pick up the phone! What idiots!
Oh and how good was Eli? Thats fantastic news!

Hels- Thats great that you can use the same donor. What great news for you guys!

Have a great day!

my_lot

23-05-2007, 10:27

cant roopee we own the place but its under strata and they are saying the bylaws state we have to ask them in writting if we want to keep an animal and we didnt. but that was their agreement with the owners before us. so we are taking it to the lawyers to sort out

my_lot

23-05-2007, 10:31

what happened to you last nigt tan. i got your txt at 11:45pm but i see you sent it about 10pm- i have no recption near my comp.

im not sure how long you give one sppon of farax and then move to two spoons or is it one spoon twice a day?

i cant remember and i cant ask the babyclinic as she said "your a LONG way off solids dear its 6 months now" when i asked her about that helping with his reflux.

you and heather are the ones with the next one up still little so what did you geys do?

does anyone else know or been told?

my_lot

23-05-2007, 10:33

i didnt mean it like that LOL

what did you GUYS do?

EskimoMumma

23-05-2007, 10:36

:laughing: thats ok.

DO you mean a toddler and with giving solids? Mary wasnt interested until just before 6months of age but solids was fairly new to me. This time will be the same it hink but i now have a better idea of introducing etc.

Id like to know how you go about with the mag mag things. I bought one yesterday for Caitlinn, doesnt seem really interested in it. I dont know if I should keep it for water or try her feeds in it instead.:confused:

EskimoMumma

23-05-2007, 10:37

re your neighbours: that is just so wrong IMO. :shame: on him. And best of luck for you with your lawyer, I'm sure you guys will kick his **** :yes:

my_lot

23-05-2007, 11:04

i have 2 mag mags.

one is full system the other is just the straw one. (i wanted two straws)

i use the cross cut spout with formula.

i will try the straw when hes about 5-6 months.

yes that guys a b@stard- whats he gonna do next stop us from having kids?

Roopee

23-05-2007, 11:59

my-lot- Ok firstly your neighbour SUCKS!

Solids- well i tried all the kids at 4 mths (cept Cooper-he was 3 mths) on Farex and they have all spat it at me so i moved to pureed pumpkin straight away.
1 spoon first day and then after that i let them have as much as they wanted-while their mouths opened in went the spoon :laughing:. No reactions or adverse affects-no child imploded like the clinic nurses ten to think they will.
Hope that helps Kay.

what happened to me last night?- I have ad a sucky few days is what happened.
Dh been working even longer hours (is that possible?) and then socialising after work leaving me at home to do it all etc etc etc. Oh and forgets that i work too but he doesnt really see it if tht makes sense.
Testerday i had a bad ankle- i have a recurring prob with my achillies tendon and looks like i will have to have a groin to toe cast on . Im delaying surgery-what am i sposed to do with the kids while im out?-and anyway-the delay is bitiing me on the ***. Its heaps better today but still painful so i will see how it is tomorrow and maybe see the Dr if it still hurts.
I was going to come in but i was tired and cranky and that wouldnt have been fun for anyone.

ziggy29

23-05-2007, 12:43

thanks for the chat last night. i laughed lots which i really needed. when is the next one?

big hugs to ren :hugs: :hugs: (super ziggy hug)

lily is in bed at the moment. she has been doing something strange lately - every 10 mins or so she crys out for about 20 seconds. by the time i get to her she is soundly asleep again. does anyone elses bubs do this?

NoMoreScuba

23-05-2007, 12:57

lily is in bed at the moment. she has been doing something strange lately - every 10 mins or so she crys out for about 20 seconds. by the time i get to her she is soundly asleep again. does anyone elses bubs do this?

Hey ziggy, yes charlie has done that. It usually ends after a little while with a very awake and angry baby, so i hope Lily is different and stays asleep for you!

:hugs: Mumslilpunk - feel free to talk about it on here if you like - whatever makes you feel better...

my_lot - what an annoying neighbour - SO rude to do that and not discuss it with you first.

hels - great news for you about using the same sperm donor!

Having a rubbish day here, charlie is so grumpy. Have just put him back to sleep, but there was so much screaming. Annoyingly DF has gone to work with the car and I left the buggy in there so I can't even go out, unless I use the hugabub, but my back is sore today so i don't want to do that unless i can help it.

Does anyone else find that just when they think everything is great and their baby is a saint then they have a really sh&**y day and they enter the pit of despair?

The good news is we've just put an offer on a house...now the waiting game to see if they accept it!

my_lot

23-05-2007, 13:30

tan, is it once a day or twice a day?

and do they still have the 6-8 feeds (i hope not)

in the baby health clinic it says on a poster on teh wall "baby will have one unsettled day a week" mines more than that!

how often does charlie get the grumps?

NoMoreScuba

23-05-2007, 14:31

in the baby health clinic it says on a poster on teh wall "baby will have one unsettled day a week" mines more than that!

how often does charlie get the grumps?

Ummm, I reckon he's grumpy at least 2 days a week, if not 3. I'm sure it's related to him refusing to sleep longer than 40 minutes at a time during the day. I've tried explaining it to him but he's having none of it :D

Still, I'm not complaining while he's sleeping well at night. If he starts screwing around with that then I'll be having some serious words.

Better go, he's grumping again.

harleyq

23-05-2007, 15:13

How many times do you reakon I could bath Jack in one day? :laughing: We've just had another hour of screaming everytime I tried to put him down - even to change his nappy!

I'm off to the doctor's at 5......I have no idea what is wrong with him I think at least 6 times a day would do the trick :wizard:Good luck with the doctors!

Kay - your neighbour sounds like hell -- actually he sounds a lot like my old neighbour (the one who complained about my dog) and also threw his hose over the fence and soaked us on new years eve (at 1 am mind you - and we didn't even have the music up loud, he said our laughter was annoying him)... l got my satisfaction though as l threatened to take him to the cops for abuse, he wrote me a note apologising (which was so unlike him, but l later found out why) - about a month later l read in the paper that he was going to jail for trafficking drugs (a 70 year old man mind you) - l laughed so hard when l read that... it absolutely made my day... 2 years later he was out and he wasn't such a cocky b**tard!! I sooooooooo hope something similar happens to your miserable neighbour!!! He hasn't got a life so he is content to try and ruin yours!!! oooooh they make me angry!!!:mad: Want me to come round and fix him up for ya??? I'd seriously consider complaining about his fence... he might have to pull it down because he didn't get approval in writing from the body corp!! From memory strata can ask you to remove it, but l don't think they can forcably take the dog from you... but you would need to confirm that!!!

ziggy - Coen does that cry once in awhile, not every 10 min. but just once (and only every 10 sleeps or so)... l have no idea what it is - bad dream? Like a puppy wimpering/barking in their sleep??? Coen stays sleeping just like lily

Sarah - good luck with the offer on the house... and YES, just when l think l have the angel baby, out come devil child... I was scared that was what was going to happen this afternoon, cos we were in and out of the car and he didn't cry once (very unusual)... so l thought for sure when l tried to put him to sleep at home he would be the little devil... but touch wood, he went down quite easily... Oh l hope l am not going to pay for that comment tonight!!! :fingerscrossed:

I don't think Coen has grumpy days so much (although there has been a few), but more a grumpy patch each day... i hope nobody takes offence to this, but l was starting to think that l had the only baby that was still having troubles (in the car, 40 minute sleeps -- although as long as he sleeps l am not to worried, waking up during the night etc.) ... please nobody get upset, but it is nice to hear there are other mums doing it tough as well... l was starting to question what l was doing wrong... but perhaps its just different babies doing different things at different times... l should be less judgmental on myself!!!

LMenz

23-05-2007, 16:33

Well Jack is perfectly "normal" - except for a bit of a cold...

Doctor said he's getting all the sleep he needs at night but doesn't understand that he get's overtired during the day.

So it seems I have a sticky beak baby who doesn't want to miss out on anything.

He had two sleeps in front of the dryer today as it was the only way he would settle. God help me when the electricity bill comes. If anyone need clothes dried, come to my place :laughing:

NoMoreScuba - Charlie and Jack sound very similar....exhausting isn't it? How many 40 minute naps will Charlie have?

Zig - Jack cries like that too sometimes - I often wonder if he's having a nightmare?? Not sure what babies dream about though, needles I guess!

Kay - Your neighbour sounds like a d**k!!!! Good on you for fighting him.

Sandy - You shouldn't be so tough on yourself. No one has the perfect child 100% of the time and according to my MCHN if they do only 5% of that is attributed to parenting...most of it has to do with temprament - I was sooo relieved to hear that!

MELB MEET - Is it still on? I need to know whether to make the quiche tonight.....:D

LMenz

23-05-2007, 16:35

OHH I also have MSN now :yelclap: How do I add contacts?

*Sparkles*

23-05-2007, 16:49

Melb Girls - the meet is still on for tomorrow at Sandy's place from 11am. Please PM either me or Sandy if you need the address again :D

I just got home from Mother's group, it was alot better this week so I'm glad I went. This was our last meet but next week we are going to meet at one of the other girl's house so I will go along as I'd like to try to get to know them all better.

Reece also had his 4 mth appt today, he weighs just under 7kg and is 61cm, he's doing really well.

Hannah - Sorry to hear you are sick, hope you are feeling better soon :hugs:

My_Lot - I hope you get the puppy issue sorted soon, how awful to have neighbours like that.

Penny - Are you still reading the thread? I hope you can make it tomorrow?

I like the sound of the evening bath idea, so today I just gave R a wash and will bath him later, (I won't have time tomorrow morning anyway). So we'll see if it helps him to settle tonight.

juzzy

23-05-2007, 18:17

hey guys

if anyone is using babylove nappies they are on sale at safeway.... $15 for 44 nappies

ill b back later, need to make dinner

JoJoMart

23-05-2007, 18:20

Ren - So sorry to hear that your DH has left.......have you heard from him yet? Did you guys have a big fight? Please look after yourself it must be very tough & stressful. :hugs:

Purplebird - I hope you feel better soon. It's coming into winter which means colds & flu unfortunately! Get lots of sleep if you can.

Hels & Sandy - I am planning on coming tomorrow and will make myself as today was ****! Liam cried throughout mother's group so I was quite stressed out by the end of it....Liam took ages to settle when I got home and was overtired.

Someone asked (NoMoreScuba?) if the rest of us feel like whenever we have a good day and everything seems to be going well then the next day ends up being ****? Well I feel like this often! I don't feel like I've got this motherhood thing under control yet.

*Sparkles*

23-05-2007, 18:30

:hugs:
Ren - So sorry to hear that your DH has left.......have you heard from him yet? Did you guys have a big fight? Please look after yourself it must be very tough & stressful.

Purplebird - I hope you feel better soon. It's coming into winter which means colds & flu unfortunately! Get lots of sleep if you can.

Hels & Sandy - I am planning on coming tomorrow and will make myself as today was ****! Liam cried throughout mother's group so I was quite stressed out by the end of it....Liam took ages to settle when I got home and was overtired.

Someone asked (NoMoreScuba?) if the rest of us feel like whenever we have a good day and everything seems to be going well then the next day ends up being ****? Well I feel like this often! I don't feel like I've got this motherhood thing under control yet.

Jo - Don't be so hard on yourself, I think you are a great mum and we all have bad days and doubt ourselves :hugs:
If it's any consolation, R screamed at my Mother's grop today too. He was so loud at one point that the other girls couldn't even hear the group leader! I had him in the pram and he was very tired but wouldn't sleep. She suggested I put a blanket over the pram so he coudn't see out to make it dark inside. Well, within 5 mins he was asleep and he slept for the remainder of the session. I have always seen mums do this at the shops and I thought it was just to keep nosey people out lol. At least I have learnt something new to try!!

Tomorrow I am bringing R's swing as he sleeps really well in it, I hope he behaves :fingerscrossed:

He's very clingy at the moment, I'm going to leave him with DH in a minute so I can relax in the bath, hopefully he won't cry.

my_lot

23-05-2007, 18:39

has anyone heard from ren?

well i gave eli some more farax tonight. its a bit tricky to work out if i give it before or after his b/feed...i really am in new ground with this and how silly is that, hes the 4th!

dp is going to a funeral tomorrow. his mates step daughter killed herself last week. 19 years old. so sad and the mother lost a child to the same ending just a few years before. dps friend has one child to her, poor boy is just in early teens.....the friend came over to tell dp and left in tears so i had to tell him. so he is going and im in two minds about it. i really really dont want to but i want to support dp and show my respect to the family.

this after noon we had to rush the pup to the vet. the ironing board fell on him. i had it long ways across the door incase the kids left the other end of the hallway open it would stop him going into the carpet area. well he got up the hallway and then followed me as i walked over it and he jumped up and it came down on him...and he yelped and cried...i gave him a cuddle but when i moved him he started again and i put him down and he wouldnt walk. so i called him just as he was shutting and he waited for me. he gave marjani a shot (anti inflam) and said to bring him back in the morning if hes still not walking on it. he thinks its not broken tho so thats good. now i have to work out another way to block that door. maybe buy one of those door gates with mesh rather than bars. we were going to get one of those metal ones for dds room when eli starts crawling so i think we may buy it sooner.

im going to bed early tonight. dp is really upset about this kid. he spent a few months late last year working with her when she was involved in our business and hes known her since she was wee little...and hes just shattered for his mate.

so the mood in our house is pretty cr@ppy.

goodnight all