'Tizzie Hall' save our sleep_ have you had success following this???

[nic151]

My 9 month old DD is a dredfull sleeper and after trying everything else i have started to use this book.
i have just spent a week with her in bed with me so i could get some sleep before i start another theory of getting her to sleep in her cot.
i was wondering if others have or are using this method and how they went.
i've started following the day routine for 9 month olds and am trying the cot thing tonight so :fingerscrossed: .
i'm hoping for miracles!:wizard:

[Lirael]

hmm, I have not heard great things....
I am currently having problems with my 2.5 year old actually, so I sympathise with you :yes:

[Milliner]

Nope. I don't like her methods. They would never work for us.

[melfunction]

Personally I'm not a fan of Tizzie Hall's methods.
I don't see them as humane.

[Lirael]

http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=52258&highlight=tizzie

there you go, just one thread i found by searching the forums. :)

[nic151]

ummm thanks for search link (i didnt think of doing that), but after reading everyting i'm not as pumped up to start it tonight now.
might just try the old ways if they dont work i think i will beg CYH to send me to torrens house (SA Sleep help place).
why dont bubs just sleep, itd make life so much easier!
thanks for the thoughts

[SammieJ]

Hey, if you want to know why your baby doesn't sleep, check out a new book called "Helping your baby to sleep" by Anni Gethin and Beth Macgregor. It explains what's going on with your baby, why they wake up, etc. I was very surprised to find that by 12 months, only about 50% of babies are sleeping through, and up to 30% wake until 4 years.
Your not so alone as you think!
Good luck, I have not read TIzzie Hall, I was put off by one line I read while browsing in a book shop about babies who are comforted with breast feeds end up obese adults because they solve all of lifes problems with food. I do know people who think she is wonderful, but they seem to be cruisy babies who hit a bit of a rough patch, whereas my DS has never slept well.
Good luck

[Pippi Longstocking]

Tizzie Hall would be a great dog trainer but I wouldn't refer to her when trying to solve sleep issues with my humane baby:no:

[elissas]

Tizzie Hall would be a great dog trainer but I wouldn't refer to her when trying to solve sleep issues with my humane baby:no:

:laughing: :laughing: Love it! I must admit, we're not big fans of baby boot camp either.

We have a friend who is a slave to routine and won't go out after 4pm now!! That's not living IMO.

[august79]

i have read 'save our sleep', and i personally think it was a great book. i didn't follow every thing, but i found it very helpful. i also loved Ezzo's book BabyWise.

each to their own. it worked for me.

[hayles86]

Hi, Im having the same problems with my almost 9month old. I have used the tizzie hall routine for DD since she was 5months old. But i didnt do everything she said. I kinda changed it on days that DD was cranky and needed to go to sleep a little earlier. I used it as a template. It has helped us so much. But now im not sure what to do now. I have lost my book and dont know the new routine :(. So let us know how you go with it all?

[BubbaNoogie]

I was very surprised to find that by 12 months, only about 50% of babies are sleeping through, and up to 30% wake until 4 years.

My bubs is definatly in that 50%. She is 13mths and has only slept through the night twice. A good night she wakes 2 times and the very bad, like last night, she wakes up 8 times. I would love to find a solution, but alas I will probably just wait til she grows out of it.:fingerscrossed: (I am anti CC etc)

Good luck to the OP.

[sueliz]

I personally have not read any of Tizzie Hall's books or idea so I cannot comment there - but I can say that The Baby Whisperer worked really well for us and I know quite a few people who it has worked for. Some started using Baby Whisperer routines from the beginning, some from whe their bubs was about 10mths and nearly everyone I have spoken with that used her have found it made a great differece for them.
I don't follow the routines and ideas strictly myself, but the basic principle of them.

[littlefish]

I have used Tizzie Hall's routines with my DD from about 3 weeks old. I found them really helpful and my DD has slept from 7pm to 7am since about 7/8 weeks.

However, I have been pretty flexibile with them and only really used them as a general guide. I also didn't follow all her advice about sleep. I give DD a dummy to sleep, play soft music, and pat her to sleep if she grizzles. These are all no no's according to Tizzie and will mean your baby won't be able to fall asleep or resettled on their own during the night. However my DD often falls straight asleep on her own without any grizzling and she very rarely wakes at night unless teething.

All in all I'd say give Tizzie a go, and modify it to suit yourself. Good luck!!

[Little_Toad]

I read Save our Sleep before the toadlet was born and I followed the bits about putting your baby to bed awake and not using music rocking or cuddling etc.

He sleeps perfectly, goes to bed awake and puts himself to sleep.
I didh't follow the routines because he was too hungry going from 4 hours between each feed. I think that depends on your baby though.

We know exactly when he is emotional crying or just protest crying.

He's 8 weeks old and this week has had 7.5 hours sleep at night twice.

[nic151]

thanks for the opinions and ideas.

im using her day routine as a example and am co-sleeping to get my sanity and strength back,
hopefully she will get better with some time (i know im wishing for a lot)
thanks

[AM]

Tizzie gets the thumbs down from me, but the book I loved when I was having sleep problems was Dr Sears "Nighttime Parenting" He explains about how babies sleep, how their patterns need to mature, he is not into routine, rather understanding the baby.

[michellea75]

i also loved Ezzo's book BabyWise.

Hi - at last someone that has read Babywise!! What did you think of the book? I am trying to follow this with my 13 wk old DS. I had tried it from Day 1 but had to put it on hold as he had Urinary Tract Infection and reflux and needed a lot of comforting and help to sleep. I am now trying to re-start with Babywise and wanted to know if it has worked for others.

[pickles]

Would not consider using it why ?

* She has never had children of her own.
* not every baby fits ' in the box'
* the book is not very breastfeeding friendly at all ( particularly in the early weeks )

Good luck

Pickles
DD 02/03
Ds 03/05

[wannabemum]

i am reading her book now and I find it very good. It was recommended to me by a mum who used from when her son was a newborn (he is now about 7 months) and she has found it fantastic. As others have said each to their own though, what may work on some, may not work for others....

[xkwzit]

Hi All
Just putting my mod hat on for a minute...

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the Ezzo's book is prob not aligned with our no-cry sleep solutions forum and so perhaps discussion of that book might be better served by discussion in the Pro-CC section? Let me know if I've got it all wrong and they do fit in this area.

Cheers

[pookiesossige]

Tizzie gets the thumbs down from me, but the book I loved when I was having sleep problems was Dr Sears "Nighttime Parenting" He explains about how babies sleep, how their patterns need to mature, he is not into routine, rather understanding the baby.

Yep, I too found the Dr Sears book awesome.
I also love Pinky McKay's 'Parenting by Heart' and The No-Cry Sleep Solution by Elizabeth Pantley. They are both excellent and really helped me feel at peace with how Ariene was sleeping and why. Elizabeth Pantley's book really gave me some great ideas to try to help her sleep longer, yet also corrected my expectations and Pinky McKay really sorted out my perspective on things... Both books made me feel like a great mother with a normal baby!

As to the OP, I'm really sorry, I haven't actually tried TH's routines so I guess I shouldn't have posted. But so many people don't know about the above resources which are just so wonderful for those it suits. I did see TH's routines and articles published in a magazine I was a subscriber to for a couple of years, and even when experiencing some sleep problems with Ronan, I never had the urge to try them. Something about what she was saying just didn't feel right.

[LittleMissyMoo]

Love it, love it, love it. My DD has followed her routine from 5 months and we haven't looked back. I do agree that it may not be for everyone though but good on you for giving it a go! :fingerscrossed: for a good night's sleep.

[cornflakegirl]

I thought this was a no cry sleep solutions thread??? Tizzie may claim that her methods aren't controlled crying but leaving your baby to cry no matter what "type" of cry they are doing is still controlled crying. Your baby is calling for you and you are choosing not to respond as he is "only" protesting - therefore CC. This thread would be better placed in the pro CC section.

[chook77]

I have read Babywise, over and over again and love it! It was hard to implement in the early days, but i can assure you that if you let your baby cry to sleep, he/she is learning how to fall asleep by themselves. This is a vital skill that your baby needs to learn. You are not harming your baby by letting them cry and I think the earlier you do it the better.Do you remember crying when you were a baby? You don't neglect the baby and you remain flexible. I have a 21month old who has no sleeping problems, never has, and a 5month old who sleeps through and has three 1-2hr naps a day. I am telling you if you do it properly it works!!! People comment on how happy the children are, it's because they are getting enough sleep and because their parents love them, they are not neglected, because they fall asleep on their own.

[MamaSage]

In regards to Babywise ans Ezzo, there is plenty of information on the web that you can find and then make your decision. His routines have pretty much been written off by most now for being too hard to implement (because they are so unrealistic) and responsible for ruining many a breastfeeding relationship. Tizzie Hall's routines have also been reputed to be damaging to the establishment of breastfeeding and generally atressful to implement. I think if it is stressing you out and is 'hard work' then chance are it will be upsetting to your little baby.

I second looking into Elizabeth Pantley's No Cry Sleep Solution and the Sears' books, much more baby and mama friendly! And realistic - which is always a bonus, no psycho routines to follow.

[chook77]

I think you shouldn't comment on a theory if you have only "heard" about it, or read about it on the net. Before you disregard it, you should read it and try the method. People are misled into thinking it is some freaking idea, probably because the guy is Christian. There is nothing wrong with routine, kids thrive on it. And as for breastfeeding problems, I had none, I actually had too much milk. The book, if you read it, helps a lot with milk production and explains how to keep it up.

[TinyStar]

Hi everyone, just a reminder that this thread has been moved to the pro controlled crying section of the forum, which is set aside for support and positive comments for those using or wishing to explore controlled crying.

The OP asked if anyone had tried Tizzie Halls methods, and if they had success.

Please post if you have any feedback for the OP on their original question.

Thanks.

[Alana13]

I got the book about 2 weeks ago, I like her theory of using a routine but in my experience I found the routines to strict and just didnt suit the needs for my baby the "up times" didnt work for DS as he ended up getting over tired - so putting him to sleep sooner didnt match the times she specifies - her ideas are good in theory but didnt work for me in practise.

I think it depends on the baby!

Good luck!

[Mischief]

I have used Tizzie since Oliver was about 4 months old, by 5 months he was sleeping 7-6! YAY!

Its very hard to get ONTO it because it is strict, but once you are there its a breeze!

[EnglishClaire]

Hi Tizzie is anti controlled crying. She explains in her book and on her site how controlled crying causes emotional damage to both Parents and baby.

Plus just for what it is worth I have breast fed from pretty much day one on her routines and my milk is perfect and baby is on the 90% for weight.

So my household love Tizzie and all her advice. So to the first poster yes I would use her advice.