pul or similar in wet zone?

[Tubbychook]

hi i was wondering when using pul or a similar product i got the one from spotlight i think its rip stop or something like that and you are using it in the wet zone does this mean that you put it just in the area that the sewn in soaker pad is or is it best to make it the same size as outer and inner layers. If you use the inner hidden layer of the pul do you still use 2 layers of fleece on the outside. Just wondering which would be the best way to go.

thanks

[shanz]

I will be keeping an eye on this. I am keen to know also.
I can give my opinion but haven't tried it yet. I was going to do PUL/Ripstop the full size of the nappy And just 1 layer of fleece over it. I only use 2 layers of fleece if I am not using waterproof materials as well.
But I don't really know whats best.

[Zada]

id say the same shanz. 2 layers of fleece if no waterproof stuff is used. 1 layer waterproof hidden with a layer of fleece over it. I wouldnt just put pul/ripstop in the wetzone as it might wick

[shanz]

I might just go and sew one up like that tonight and see how it goes.
ZADA- I bought a really nice cotton print that I want to use as the outer. I'm out of PUL at the moment. will it work with cotton, followed by 2 layers of fleece, then fleece inner??For a pocket??
Thanks heaps.
:fingerscrossed:

[Zada]

u can try, might be bulky? Try 1 layer fleece with some sewn in the wetzone then ure cotton outer KWIM?

[shanz]

yep that sounds better. I will give it a go that way. Thanks Zada.
Sorry to hi jack your thread tubbychook.

[Shanaynay]

So if doing a pocket, is 2 layers of fleece really enought to keep the outside dry?
Fleece has me confused... I don't understand how wee goes thru it (as in thru the inner), but doesn't go thru the outer :confused:

[shanz]

Yeah i know i thought it was weird at first but I made Blake an AIO that has 2 layers of fleece for the outer, 2 layers of bamboo and two of microfibre sewn in to the wet zone and then 1 layer of the same fleece for the inner and after 4 hours. including a 45 minute car trip the nappy still felt dry inside and out.:thumbsup:
And that is just the anti pill polar fleece from spotlight.

[shanz]

I think it works something like this. It is water repellant, therefore the liquid will run through to the absorbancy as an inner and as the outer it forces the moisture back?? I could be completely wrong:laughing: :confused:

[wattle]

I went to a nappy making workshop recently and the person there told me that the micro fleece is best for the inside, but to use the polar fleece on the outside (2 layers) for maximum absorption and minimum leakage.

Also I've found the premium fleece from Lincraft works better than the spotlight polar fleece. It's a bit thicker.

[Zada]

Synthetic fleece is hydrophobic (water hating) so it never "wants" to be near water. If you leave the corner of a terry, flannelette or hemp nappy soaking in the trough, and leave the rest of the nappy dry, hanging over the edge of the trough, and then come back a few hours later, you will probably find that the whole nappy is wet! This is because the water has been wicked up the fabric, like a lamp wick drawing up fuel. Polyester fleece doesn't do this.

Many people talk about synthetic fleece "wicking the urine away from the baby's bottom" but in fact it is forced through the synthetic fleece when the baby wees right up against it, and it is the absorbent material in the core of the nappy (cotton, hemp etc) that does the wicking, keeping the moisture away from the baby's skin. It just so happens that if the inner core of a nappy that is surrounded by synthetic fleece, is absolutely saturated, the water has to go somewhere, and because fleece has tunnels through it (hence the breathablility) some water is able to be forced through the hydrophobic synthetic fleece and into the cotton clothes that baby is wearing. This is why their clothes can feel dampish if they have been sitting in a carseat as well, because some of the water has been forced out where the belt or bottom of the car seat is pressing onto the nappy firmly for a long time (compression wicking).

Fleece covered nappies work really well - so long as you either change often enough or put more stuffing inside your pocket, and so long as you have the correct grade of fleece. A fleece cover, or fleece pocket nappy can easily last all night with your baby's clothes staying dry, so long as you boost well and have enough material in the nappy to absorb anything your baby can produce in the ten or so hours that they are in the nappy overnight. Many people personally prefer synthetic fleece (or wool!) covers or pocket nappies over waterproof fabrics (especially at night time), because if the nappy does occasionally get sopping wet, at least the baby's skin stays dry as opposed to being steamy and saturated behind a waterproof barrier.

there ya go:D

[bekkyboo]

Wow, Dani that was awesome.

Tubbychook - I found ripstop to be useless, but with a fleece outer it may work. You would only need one tho. With fleece only i would use 2 - but i do have one where i only used 1 layer, and it works fine as well. If you go to spotlight for a wetzone layer, look for a fabric called 'water resistant cotton" its a polyester cotton blend that i have found to be AWESOME, you get almost the same time span as PUL (when used with a fleece outer) but it breathes alot better and you dont get the steam effect over night or long use :)

[Tubbychook]

Thanks ladies well i made up a nappy last night using ripstop in wet zone only and 2 layers of fleece on outside it seems to have worked for me so far but that might be because the nappy has a thick sewn in soaker and an extra thick booster. I am stuck atm as i am waiting for my meter of hep i won off ebay to arrive it should be posted tomorrow and hopefully i will get it on wednesday i am also getting a 45cmx50cm cut of the maldon mills fleece from the same seller so hopefully these will come together so i can get sewing

[theycallmemum]

I might just go and sew one up like that tonight and see how it goes.
ZADA- I bought a really nice cotton print that I want to use as the outer. I'm out of PUL at the moment. will it work with cotton, followed by 2 layers of fleece, then fleece inner??For a pocket??
Thanks heaps.
:fingerscrossed:

I'm very new to this but I don't think that would work because I am finding my 2 layer fleece nappies can't have pants over the top because the pants get wet after about an hour. They work beautifully on their own but not with clothes over the top so I would think the cotton on the outer would soak up the wee through the fleece?

[Shanaynay]

Zada - you have no idea how long I've been puzzled about fleece for!
I so understand it now!! Thankyou :smiliedance: Excellent :D

[waawa]

phineas, our explanation of fleece, how it works, the different weights might be of use to you?

http://www.ozclothnappies.org/info#polar

Lara