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OK you might need some tea, and custards creams this is very long winded!! Everything here is my opinion only :D
I can't believe it, I have ANOTHER sore throat, for **** sake I have been in the UK 3 months and this will be my 5th cold ughhh I honestly haven't that many colds in 5-7 years living in Australia, I hardly ever got sick. Bloody British and their germs, I have come to realise the Brits are in fact true to their namesakes of not being hygienic people at all, Australia has changed me for the better.
DIFFERENCES
Carpet in the bathrooms was normal to me until I went to Australia where they all have tiles much better idea, I mean honestly carpet and water don't mix and go mouldy after a while and then you get sick and it smells. YUCK tiles please. Man hair on carpet, lordy knows what else lets use our imagination please
Dogs in the House, now I love dogs and when I was a teen I had 4 dogs sometimes more as I trained and showed them, and they all lived in the house and one even slept in my bed, ya you read right in my bed.
Australia dogs live outside or in the laundry at night in their bed, much better dogs eat ****, lick their *** and every other dogs butt and then lick your face, not nice and you get sick as you have dog poo on your skin. They trail mud throughout the house making your carpet dirty.
When and if we ever have a dog it will live outside and have a heated Kennel for the cold winter and live in the laundry section of the house. And have short hair I hate long animal hair everywhere, it gets on your clothes and then you constantly look like you're wearing a mohair outfit.
Being polite, I pride myself on how polite I am, I of course at times give as good as I get when I have to, but most of the time I am nice, I let old people on the bus first, I help them cross the road, I check to see if the person behind me at the supermarket has less so I can offer them to go first. I shouldn't expect other people to be polite or should I?
Here in the UK I struggle to get on the bus with my stroller as people are like semen leaving the tube and flow and rush with no sense of direction except they must get on that bus and get a seat before you. Where have all the polite people gone, Australia perhaps!
Australia any given person will offer you their seat on the bus, they'll even help you on with your stroller or help you with your bags of shopping.
Supermarkets, oh my fave so far.
UK So you've done all you shopping and now you’re at the checkout and the checkout chick is scanning all your things which are now gathering at the other end of the conveyer belt, huh? Why hasn’t she packed them into bags? BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO DO IT, ya to right you have to get it all out of the trolley then pack it all into bags there are good things about this, you don’t over fill your bags and you get to pack what you want in what bags, but you have to work very fast, as most of the checkout people are speedy.
Australia
So you have done your shopping and it’s being scanned, and then it’s packed admittedly over filled into your green bags, which you have started to wonder why you bother to bring as after they have filled them you can hardly lift them, and heaven help you if you say “can you not over fill them” if looks could kill I’d be dead seven times over. I attempted to pack them once my self it took forever and I was in a terrible fluster as I was 34 weeks pregnant and almost unable to walk as it was. Crazy ideas happen when you’re in that state.
Driving UK
Or should I say Drivers, as I haven’t driven since I have been back, but man people drive very fast here, and get annoyed if you’re on a zebra crossing, old man wave you across from behind their windscreens as if to say, “if you don’t move it, I am going to have to drive over you” But if you’re driving and you wait for another car and they flash their lights to tell you to come first and you don’t say thank you, you get the finger and some foul words follow suit.
Australia
I have driven all across Australia and in every state, people do speed but rarely on the freeway as the police are like wolf spiders waiting to pounce and deliver you a ticket, no I have never had one. And it’s not until you get out into bush country that people nod and stick one finger up as you pass them even on the long stretches of the Nullabor, people were being friendly!
Church
I never went to church in Australia, well only to visit and light a candle every now and again, but something always struck me there was the amount of young people attending services and coming out smiling, I remember hating church with a passion as child and never left smiling, it did make me wonder what was happening in there to create these smiles. Here in the UK it appears nothing has changed with church goers unless you have a OAP pass you don’t go to church the priests have walking sticks and more metal in their hips than all the challises combined.
I could write more but then this would be a novel, and Eliza has woken up, I hope you enjoyed my ramble! I am sure there are more thing add your own, lets discuss!!
misskittyfantastico
04-04-2007, 19:17
Righto! UK is off my list....they don't pack your bags at the supermarket:eek:
Love your avatar...very pretty:D
What about food Pixie!? When I've been to the UK, I've really missed good quality meat and decent fruit and veggies, and there don't seem to be many licensed cafes - where you can just order a plate of pasta and a glass of wine for dinner.
But then again, English cheese is divine.
Or that Devon cream, so thick you need to slice it like butter and after one cream tea you don't need lunch OR dinner :D.
But also one thing I noticed while on a brief holiday in London - black grit is everywhere, it's on your face after a day of walking around, even when you blow your nose :o (sorry). It must just be suspended in the air - I guess. It's a bit icky.
Cheers Pixie and good luck on your one woman mission to civilise the old country :D.
Ooh Pixie:shame: :shame: Guess maybe I need to join a UK parenting forum.
Some of the things you hate about the UK are the things I love!
Supermarkets - I hate dorks packing my bags here! For XXX sake you cant even pick up a bottle of wine in a supermarket here you have to go to a separate shop drives me nuts!
Drivers - I think the drivers here are the craziest I have ever seen, no-one ever lets you in, everyone is agressive.
Church - Dont go here, never went there so cant comment!
Being polite -Love it if people are genuinely being polite but if they are telling me to "have a nice day", or asking me "hows it going" because thats what they have been trained to do - grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! When I first came out here when people asked me "How you going?" I used to launch into a big long speech telling them how I was until I realised they couldnt give two hoots and learnt the standard stock response, "good thanks"!
Anyway sorry I cant do you post justice gotta dash!
(can you tell I'm a little homesick???):gloomy:
But also one thing I noticed while on a brief holiday in London - black grit is everywhere, it's on your face after a day of walking around, even when you blow your nose :o (sorry). It must just be suspended in the air - I guess.
Ah yes, particularly when you catch the underground a lot, known in this household as "the black snot of the tube".
Interrupts dinner just to add one word;-
CHOCOLATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK had to respond while Eliza feeds baby born lol
I had the black grime, the water runs black when you shower and wash your hair.
Devon Cream, being from Devon myself I hate the stuff, well I lie I hate the amount they serve you with, of course you don't have to eat it all :D
Bron the fruit here isn't so bad but the selection is so um what shall I say minimal lol Loving the cheese here, trying to lose 10 kilos the chedder is not helping.
MKF Thanks for the compliment, and ya it's so annoying at the checkouts!
Manxie, sorry lol I love how you can grab the wine at the supermarket, me drink noo I breastfeed,:o I always got let in when driving in Aus, have you tried driving with your boobs out, always worked for me lol, sorry just trying to cheer you up
Too funny about "how you going" here I was the same as you when people would say "you right" and I would be like ...well actually, and tell them how my throat hurts etc lol
ah dear OK said child at feet with baby born, off to the playpark for us xx
Interrupts dinner just to add one word;-
CHOCOLATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
too right loving it, i'll have dove for you :p
But what about Tescos, oh my goodness how can you even compare Tescos to the crappy Coles etc over here, I Love going to TEscos when Im back in the UK.....the selection of food, the clothes for kids and adults - and they packed my bags last time i was there - in fact they asked me if i would like them to pack or pack myself
driving here is rubbish - no one knows how to give way or let you in
Manxie, sorry lol I love how you can grab the wine at the supermarket, me drink noo I breastfeed,:o I always got let in when driving in Aus, have you tried driving with your boobs out, always worked for me lol, sorry just trying to cheer you up
PML - I would definately NOT get let in if I had my boobs out :laughing: It would probably be enough to have people :barf: out of their car windows!
Just have to add about Dogs - Yes so much more hygienic I agree but at least the damm things dont bark when they are cosy sleeping next to their owners on the bed or if they do I cant hear them. All I heard this morning was Woof, woof, as the seven dogs that surround our house were trying to get their owners butts outta their cosy warm house to give them some attention.
Grumpy old, smelly ? (apparently!) Englishwoman crawls back into her box, dreaming of Marks & Sparks foodhall :D
millymoo
05-04-2007, 10:03
Oh so many reminders!!!
I am currently remembering the Uk through rose tintd specs I think!
Pixie - can I just ask...are you originally from the Uk and if so how long had you been in Sydney/ Australia.
Church - must add this. My DD1 and DD2 were quickly snapped up by a church when we got here..I will not go into details but it made me very uncomfortable and had many happy happy people!! They have been banned as i saw cult like tendencies and Huge pressure on them to conform to the church and give their pocket money etc.:eek: scarey stuff. They hated me for a while but it felt right to stop them to me!
A very controversial Church I have since found out.
H x
DH and I talked for a little while about moving to London for a year or so. We spent 4 days there and both decided we did not want to live there (sorry UK lovers!)
The things that we found the most annoying was that everywhere was smoking (thankyou Aus for your smoking bans) and the fact that everyone was soooo serious! It was so hard to get anyone to smile...even walked along the streets very serious, never a stranger smiling at another, something I'm used to here and never realised I would miss so much.
One night I was dying for vegetables (being that we were only there for four days before we ventured on we ate out all the time) so went to a nice restaurant that had a vegetarian stir-fry on their menu. No joke, the vegies were your frozen bag of mixed vegetables. So disgusting! This was a nice, classy looking restaurant too! It cost a fortune too, for something I wouldn't even make myself at home.
millymoo
05-04-2007, 11:38
Reminds me of going for a pub lunch once and ordering " chicken with a lovely garlic suace centre coated in breadcrumbs on a bed of fresh vegetables".....out came frozen veg mix with what looked like a frozen birds eye chicken kiev on the top!!
The Aussies do do food well! And I love the coffee shops. lots of choice but tool me a while to get my orders right!
H x
Ashleigh<3
05-04-2007, 11:50
I'm trying to remember what My Mum said when she went back with my Dad.
I think, they ordered a hamburger and it was made of something weird and she was scared to eat it, thent hey went to a different cafe, ordered a hamburger and it was made of the same thing she was disgusted in, I have no idea really.
I have about 100 distant relatives living there, tell them I said Hi! :wave: LMAO!
When my brother was 6 and went to England with my Dad, he asked my Dad, "Dad can I please have some chocolate", My Dad's Aunt grabbed my brother and spanked him then said, "You will not ask for chocolate, how naughty of you".
Then My Brothers cousins were saying, "Ooooh you're in big trouble now, why did you ask?".
AHHAHA. I guess the manners are a lot different too.
Oh M&S foodhall I am loving it and Sainsuburys even though I have to pack my bags lol
Milly - Yep born in Devon left when I just turned 21 to Australia lived there for 9 years now back as hubby is working here, we came to further his career he had reached the top in Sydney he's in IT so we knew here was a better opportunity for us all. I miss Sydney a lot but there are things here that I love like clothes shopping lol
AE1 the smoking bans are here now central London starts in June I think outer suburbs it's already in place.
Ya manners I am huge on them drives DH mad lol
I'll look out for your relos :D
Nat, I love you but you've got some terribly romanticised ideas about Sydney ... :D
1. For what it's worth, none of the 6 houses I lived in in the UK had carpeting in the loos.Nor did the homes of my siblings, my friends or my extended family. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck.
2. Dogs in the house ... it depends on the person. My doggy friendly friends in the UK kept theirs outdoors. My sister in law here in Australia has her dogs indoors and they too sleep on her bed with her. Yes, even the incontinent one. And the one that poos when he's stressed ...
3. Politeness and public transport?! You are kidding, right? 38 weeks pregnant, on a bus on my way to Randwick. Bus full of students going to UNSW. Seat for Beany? :no:
Haven't get any help with my stroller yet. Haven't had anyone offer me their seat. Got glared at because my baby dared to cry while we were on a bus, though.
Must admit, the bag packing at the supermarkets is a blessing here.
The other wonderful thing about Oz is the no smoking rules in enclosed public spaces like shopping centres and cafes. I had forgotten all about it when I went back ... Yuck.
Trains cost a fortune over there. Much cheaper here. Having said that, the trains there are nicer.
Autumn is nicer there ... leaves to crunch through. Its nowhere near the same league here.
Will add more after I put a certain whinging Aussie to bed :p
Another thing in the UK credits column - London, in general. It is an incredible city.
And in the UK debits column. The bleak bleak months between November and March.
Hahaha this brought back lots of memories! Just remember that if you were being paid 5 pounds an hour to work in a supermarket (and 5 pounds is like 5 dollars so dont try and convert it) you wouldnt pack peoples bags either!
I lost all sense of decency when I lived in London. Its everyone for themselves! I pushed, I shoved, I didnt smile, I didnt say sorry when i got in someones way....whats the point? You begin to lose that Australian sense of decency very quickly when you realise that it wont get you anywhere in a city thats dog eat dog. I agree with carpet in the bathroom. WFT?! I hated it.
Youll get used to it Nat. :hugs: Just remember how good it is to have trains coming every 1 to 2 minutes, 5 minutes you are starting to get annoyed and 10 minutes is unheard of. Think about the shopping, that you are in London in the best season, and that no matter how much I hated living there I would give anything to go back!
My Experience of London while we were there for 6mths as I couldn't handle it anymore -
Good Points
- I had a job within 3 days of getting off the plane, although they were a bit gob smacked when I wanted 12pounds an hour but soon realised that I was worth it and was getting requested for contracts and the whole time I had to ask for time off to travel as I had back to back contracts.
- I loved the food in Pret and had the granola every day.
Bad Points
- The meat sucks, and I nearly died at the fat that dissolves when you cook it to fill the frying pan eewww.
- On my way to my first job I left early and I am glad I did because I waited 30mins before a tube came along that was not so packed like sardines but realised I had to get on as this was obviously what it was like. Being in such close proximity to others is not appealing when they reak of bad BO.
- I had to wear a beanie always as my ears felt like I was getting frost bite and it was making me ill. Not a good look in business clothes.
- I got looked at like I was on Drugs when I waited for an elderly couple to get on the bus first and they asked what I was waiting for so I just said I was being polite and letting you on first and after that no comment from either of them but another funny look. After this happened a number of times I stopped doing it but once I nearly slapped a man for going to take a seat I got up from to give to a pregnant lady but he stopped once he saw my face.
- I got more funny looks at the register when I was waiting for my bags to be packed and when I realised that they weren't going to do it I started and the noises made by the others in line and more looks of wondering what I was on.
- Went into M & S and asked where the spices are from a worker, I was told as she kept walking straight past me without even stopping "Not Here!"
Needless to say I won't be going back there but Ireland instead as they are alotmore friendly.
Beany you know I live in la la land lol
OK I am not totally bagging this country out he he, but comparing.
First off smoking, this is now very different they have changed a lot of things even since we arrived 3 months ago no smoking in the bars, etc love it I can now go into a pub and have a beer with Eliza man gotta tell a story :D
Last week met BIL for a drinky poo went to this great old pub use to be a bank glorious building I had the barman tell me to sit down and he brought us our drinks, the female bartenders where all over Eliza it was awesome lol
CUTE barman OMG helooooo, the eye candy here is wonderful I even told DH I rarely look at other men but sheshh it's hard not to in London!!! He just rolled his eyes at me
Trains ya way more expensive but they are so clean and nice and so, so fast.
Nicole ughh the meat is shocking, I love the sausages though and hmm I am buying NZ lamb lol more ca ching but much nicer!
Pret must of made a small fortune outta me since I arrived I have eaten their sambo's every other day it seems!
Carls OMG the shopping is just, well it's like the best sex you ever had window shopping is like foreplay I get so excited about shopping I am truly addicted to it anyway being here makes it worse, I am off to buy boots, shoes, skirts, tops and make up tomorrow as is DP we decking our selves out big time how can you not the variety is huge as you know, I nipped into Topshop it's not so abd the quality is like sportsgirl, when you were here was there a shop called TK Maxx? This shop is fantastic all designers, from Juicy/lonsdale/puma to Valentino they don't have all sizes but great prices, and they have home wares too.
Shoot gotta go Eliza is trying to destroy the TV remotes and they are not ours!!
xxx
mysonroger
05-04-2007, 19:41
Ooh
Supermarkets - I hate dorks packing my bags here! For XXX sake you cant even pick up a bottle of wine in a supermarket here you have to go to a separate shop drives me nuts!
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ahem ahem.....but in australia, we don't have to go to a supermarket to buy our booze, infact, we don't even have to get out of the car. we just drive in, tell the attendent what we want, they go get it and bring you your change.....we have it sussed. yet , you guys/ poms are the ones with the bad weather.....ha ha....go figure!!! too busy whinging to come up with the good ideas :laughing:
oh yeah, maybe the supermarket employees don't pack your bags properly because they don't like you because you treat them like dorks.......just a thought.
PunkyDiva
05-04-2007, 19:51
TK Max...I so loved that shop.
We were way up north in Scotland where the sun only shines from July till September but people are certainly a lot nicer then any we experienced in England.
London, well i was there for the culture and shopping. Have lived in Sydney too and would say they are pretty much on a par just London's more compact.
Funny how many Ukers travel back and forth cause they can't decide between the two.
We used to eat out at an Aussie restaurant owned and run by a Melbournite. Always going when he had Bundy Rum and Gingerbeer from home. Kangaroo Steak with a Haggis Topping, don't knock it till ya try, so succulent.
Tescos were fab despit having to pack my own shopping, though they did pack and push trolley out to a car a few times for me whilst pregnant but that's cause it was a wee village, they would order in Aussie food for me and keep it as a line if it sold well. Guess who's Scottish freinds are all addicted to Tim Tams now, couldn't get them to like the Vegemite though. London is good because there are Aussie suppliers there.
PunkyDiva
05-04-2007, 20:11
Sorry got a bit carried away in previous post actually wanted to say in ref to your colds BIG:hugs:
Our GP told us to expect colds for the first year or so as new bugs etc. We had constant flu's not just colds for two years, turned out we had monoxide poisoning from unvented AGA stove and major gas leak (it had been reg tested and passed as per laws:eek: ), so get a alarm or these little sticker indicators. I hate gas now and am a little paranoid because we nearly lost our wee one, I used to park her pram near the stove as the 100+ year old farmhouse we lived in was so cold. Luckily I am a mother that reg wakes babies checking breathing and caught her as she started turning blue, then big rush by ambo through the snow (huge drama) to hospital and lotsa horrid tubes shoved into her. Not a fond memory.
Maybe you could find a good naturapath/chinese herbalist to visit as well. Never leave house without scarf wrapped firmly around throat, feet warm and toasty in thick socks and waterproof boots and live in ya thermals (that was me anyway).
In regards to the dogs, no one we knew in UK kept them outside and most lived in two up two downs, wall to wall carpet with 3/4 dogs living with them, so I am with those who say GROSS. Dogs scratch polished timber so a big no no inside:o
UK has the better Indian take away places.
Australia has better Indonesian ...
This is going to sound silly but Nat will understand (having seen the sheer enormity of my bum) but one of the things I miss about the UK is the range of diet soft drink. Things are improving a little here now but when I first got here the diet range consisted of Diet Coke and Diet Sunkist. Over there, almost everything had a diet counterpart.
And hows this for ridiculous: I preferred the butter over there. It was imported from New Zealand :laughing:
Londonmum
05-04-2007, 22:05
Just caught this thread and it's been interesting reading :D
Only arrived in Auz Nov 06 so fairly new here though I have visited a few times, hence wehy we have taken the big leap and emigrated to Auz ;)
So my points of view.......
Smoking, as already mentioned is now being banned and there will be a total ban of smoking in public places by end this year.....according the the media I read/watched prior to leaving.
For those who live in London or SE, Try Bluewaters it has been smoke free zone since made/built about 5 years ago and it is a shopping haven. Never been to a mall like it before or since.
Talking of shopping, how expensive is it here.......cripes clothes, toys, books everything is so much more expensive here then the UK.....thank god fo internet shopping ;-)
Food, There is actually a better range of food in the UK, though the quality is better here esp the meat. You'd never get a butcher who sold 30 different fresh chicken products, no for that you'd have to go to the processed food section in UK. Fresh fruit and veg is improving in the supermarkets in UK and as for packing bags.......I lived in SE London and Sainsbury started bag packing about 6-8 months prior to my leaving the country and I heard other supermarkets were doing it to but in UK they help you pack they don't alwasy do it all for you and 'you can ask for a packer' if you feel you'd like the help.
Resturants - this is as variable as the weather, some are good and some are bad and the majority are adverage......those in the UK will get to know the good ones after a while but if you live in Kent then try the small local Kent pubs, they generally do a nice roast and quite cheaply too :thumbsup:
Manners - Yes people in Auz are friendlier, if any stranger started talking to me in London I'd wonder what the freak was taking....LOL
I think manners are so bad in UK cause if anyone does speak up about someone elses lack of manners then they get a face full of abuse......it's too like the gangster USA image/attitude that has funneled it's way to the UK. It's gotten to the point that if you are polite to someone then they wonder what it is your after.
When we arrived here a mum fried I met on Bubhub helped us go shopping, told us how to get good deals and even made sure the sales people new we were friends of hers (she knows everyone...just about...where I live) and then we popped over to one of our neighbours to ask a few questions and they have been soooo helpfull, even to the point of leaning us stuff like gardening tools so we didn't have to go out and buy them straight away.
Chocolate..........can't say I've seen any problems here in Auz, theres Cadburys so what more could I ask for and the scales do not lie.....LOL
Public transport....not tired it here but for me the trains were almost always late........except for those rare times that they left 1 min before they were supposed to which is when your running up the platform to get on only to have the doors slam closed in your face......I'm sure the drivers do this deliberatly.
Underground is great, yes it's always packed, yes it's dusty, yes there are grey deaf mice who live about the rail lines catching food thrown away by careless/thoughtless public but you never have to wait long for another train.
Saying that, though I didn't use public transport much when I was pregnant, I was only once offered a seat. It was by a young asian man who then deliberatly blocked the path to the seat for anyone but me (a businessman was trying to sneak round to get the seat, if he'd managed it then DH would have ripped him a new hole :laughing: )
Utilities - we might have complained about the cost when in the UK but it's just as expensive here and don't even get me started on what is laughingly known as Broadband here.....roll on the lines being put in through to Guam, we'll be on the US system and then prices will come down and the speed will go up.
Colds - one word 'Pollution' London particually is bad for it, Asthma is on the increase and I went from having barely 1 day a year off sick (when I lived in Kent) to having at least 1 day a month minimum when I was in London. But since I have been here....nothing yet though I think I might have picked something up......but then again it could be simple fatique (kids who'd have them ;-)...LOL )
Toilets - I agree, carpets do not belong in there, but think of the country your talking about. Do you want to go to the loo and have your feet turn into popsicles ? It's bad enough your your bum goes numb.....i know what your going to say......heating, and I'd agree except you try sleeping with heating on all the time and see how many colds, dry throats and blocked sinuses you get then :-( But then I guess you could invest in a toilet seat warmer LOL
Dogs....My mum allows her dog (was dogs) in their house and in their room, I can't say I like seeing dogs outdoors in the cold and wet but then neither would I allow them in my room.
Sidney compared to London......same horse just different jockey........in otherwords they are very much alike only Sidney is just a little cleaner.
All in all there are pluses and minuses to the UK v Auz debate but right now, other then missing family and friends, I don't miss anything else about the UK.
Gosh, sorry about the rambling....I have gone on a bit huh ;-p
Oh where in Kent where you? I am in Hayes but not for too long.
Oh and Bluewater LOVE IT been there twice now ughh fantasticle
love you post, in fact loving everyones contribution here!
Have you been to Lakeside Thurrock, Pix?
Used to go there back when I was in 6th form college (*sigh* what a long time ago that was!). It was great ... and HUGE! Been a decade though, might have changed a bit.
Umm. why do you ask such hard questions Beany, I have no idea lol it's in a big quarry. Off the Motorway, no idea my sister has taken us :D
Err duh sorry, no I haven't been to Lakeside yet, was sure that said Bluewater...loosing my marbles been working out trying to lose 10 kilos HA sorry for the vibrations, wonder what they're meauring on the R scale lol
Oh I know Bluewater - went there in 1999. Very soon after it opened. Could still smell the paint. Bought a gorgeous cardigan for my best friend's new baby daughter from Gap :D Ah the memories!
Well to make up for my purely negative post before I will say that I did love the public transport. Much easier than Aus public transport (which I don't use).
I understand the whole seat thing though. I was 20 weeks pg with DD when we were in London but only got offered a seat once. I just figured people didn't care...elderly were standing too.
Shopping....we found shopping to be so expensive but maybe it's cause we were converting dollars and not earning money while we were there? We bought hardly anything cause we couldn't justify the money (had this problem in everywhere we went in Europe, not just in London).
Londonmum
06-04-2007, 09:59
Pixie - I used to live in Grove Park, between Lewisham and Bromley. So where are you planing to move to? I can recommend Bromley and I know a few reall nice mums there who'll help you get settled in :-)
Beany - I went to Lakeside a couple times in it's hay day, few years down the line and it's just a complete waste, very disapoointed. Most of the shops were vacant and borded up. I think Bluewaters just blew them out of the water so people stopped going there.
ACE1 - Trouble with London (this is my DH's theroy) is that no one 'looks' at each other so half the time they are oblivious to pregnant women ect.
As for expense, your right. If you had been earning pounds then it would have been cheaper......depending on where you were shopping of course ;) but earning Auz Dollers here....stuff is expensive, well to me it is but then perhaps I don't know the good places to shop myself :laughing:
I thought the same thing about shopping - converting it to pounds and pennies, I thought it was MORE expensive here. Especially the clothing. After a few years, you just stop converting anything and live a far more peaceful life :laughing:
I'm sorry to hear about Lakeside. It's sad to hear that it's gone downhill like that ... spent many a day there while I was supposed to be revising for my A Levels :o
Bag packing aside, I prefered the UK supermarkets. Wider aisles, brighter, more selection and just *nicer*.
The chips are better over there, too. And oh I miss Percy Ingles! Real cream buns! It's nigh on impossible to get proper cream anything here unless you make it yourself. Talking of making yourself :wave: off to make hot cross buns!
Pixie - I used to live in Grove Park, between Lewisham and Bromley. So where are you planing to move to? I can recommend Bromley and I know a few reall nice mums there who'll help you get settled in :-)
Beany - I went to Lakeside a couple times in it's hay day, few years down the line and it's just a complete waste, very disapoointed. Most of the shops were vacant and borded up. I think Bluewaters just blew them out of the water so people stopped going there.
ACE1 - Trouble with London (this is my DH's theroy) is that no one 'looks' at each other so half the time they are oblivious to pregnant women ect.
As for expense, your right. If you had been earning pounds then it would have been cheaper......depending on where you were shopping of course ;) but earning Auz Dollers here....stuff is expensive, well to me it is but then perhaps I don't know the good places to shop myself :laughing:
Maybe that's what it was...no one looked! That didn't bother me too much though, I can't say I get special treatment for being pg here. I'm 19 weeks pg now and most people don't even realise I'm pregnant until I tell them!
Don't get me wrong, I have a friend who has been living in the outskirts of London for over a year now and she loves it! It's not for me, but then Aus isn't for everyone either, we had english neighbours for a couple of years when I was a kid and she hated Aus....it was way too sunny for her (her words) and she went back early she hated the place so much!
The money thing is relative if your spending dollars then yeah you are truly getting screwed although the food in the supermarkets is cheaper Aus trust me we did an excel spreadsheet lol
LM We're most likely to move to Kensington/Chelsea/Pimlico we're just have Pimlico to suss out, I enjoy the city life, far to quiet out here + we like to walk everywhere and avoid public transport where possible!
I agree with you beany love the huge wide Aisles and the fact you can scan all the stuff yourself at Sainsburys and hand that over much quicker love it!
I think a lot of rudeness stems from if you're polite to everyone you'll never get on the bus, or pull out onto the freeway lol
In Sydney people will literally look at you and aim for you despite the path being empty and you have to move that use to drive me nuckin futs!!
millymoo
06-04-2007, 15:08
:wave: I want to go home now!!
It is raining and dark here and set all weekend!
Our gardening plans have gone tits up...this was a big moment for us as we are not big on gardening yet!
No where is open for wine/beer and we haven`t got any..so i decided to have a bath and full body scrub to relax and warm up!! But....my bloody body scrub has gone mouldy:eek:. How does that happen!!
I want to be in Sainsburys in the wine dept and then pre packed food, preferably the thai take away section!!Maybe it does shut too today and I am having a memory loss but everything is shut here!
Going to have an early night and hope tomorrow is a better day.
H x
Oh I feel bad now making everyone homesick!
Everything is open here today the only day the shops are totally shut is this Sunday. Eliza's 1st Birthday!!
Must of had a weather swap Milly
and how the heck does body scrub go mouldy!!
It's early here and Eliza is so clingy going to be a looong day.
millymoo
06-04-2007, 15:45
:mad: I knew I was right!!! The shops don`t shut at home ! In fact Easter is abit of a wash out.Good excuse for choccies and a few days off. Here it is very serious! Bit like Xmas day.
I am wondering as this is my 3rd Easter how I have not noticed before!
DH is climbing the walls at the thought of no beer on a holiday. He isn`t a big boozer but when it becomes impossible to get any then... well ...the poor sod!
I am blaming the heat on the mouldy body scrub.
:eek: it stank !
I hope Eliza has a great birthday! Lovely to have it on Easter...lots of good English chocolate too.
H xx
PunkyDiva
06-04-2007, 19:09
My birfdays Sunday too!! but a wee bit older then Eliza. Aries, you are sooo in trouble when she's older.
The talk about buns earlier made me laugh. We had been traipsing around Bath all day with the plan for coffee and "buns" for afternoon tea. Little did we know this bakery, that was the first to make buns, was just plain old lunch buns not the sticky ickies we were imagining:laughing:
Beany we stopped converting pretty damn quick when we arrived back in Aus again, was so depressing after pounds and pence. Sliced peaches in a tin for less then 20 pence, over 2 bucks here. Cereal here before we left was $4 max, now $7 or more, food prices really went up.
Strange in UK how necessities in life were expensive but cars,white goods, clothes, travel and those other desirable things were so cheap. Of course we were earning pounds but when we first arrived our hard earned savings converted to pounds was sad 35pencefor every dollar.
Tesco chinese in a bag was always a winner in our house. Open and reheat then serve, yummy.
Glad to be back in Aus but wouldn't trade those years on the other side of the world for anything, some priceless memories that just aren't possible in our baby of a country.
Millymoo, you can make bodyscrub with rolled oats, salt and whatever else you might like to put in. oils, herbs, yoghurt, fruit etc
Londonmum
06-04-2007, 20:24
Pixie - Wow, your DH must be making some money if your looking at real estate in those areas, well good luck to you :yes: Do you work ? If you'd like to meet up with mums around your area, then drop me a pm with your email.....if you trust me ;) I'll send you some info which I know I would not be allowed to put on forum.
You should hit the supermarkets and Wollies (woolworths) on Monday for the cheap easter eggs.
Millymoo - :hugs: I'm afriad the supermarkets particually will be open, BH/Sunday trading hours Friday and Monday and closed Sunday. Saying that Coles up here in the Hills is open over the BH weekend (except Sunday) but I haven't noticed if I can get alcohol in there.
Now if you want beer.......ask around some neighbours for a meal, they'll ask what they can bring and you can say 'just some beer', can't fail :thumbsup:
Punkydiva - Great tip on the body scrub. Can use grated walnut shells instead of rolled oats too.....if anyone can be bothered to grate walnut shells....LOL.
In advance...case I forget on Sunday.....
HAPPY BIRTHDAY to
Eliza & Punkydiva
What I used to covert currency the most with was clothes. The clothes here just seems so much more expensive than that which I had been used to in the UK. Granted, I was living a poor student life there and was doing most of my clothes shopping in places like Mark One and C&A (I think those places have ceased to exist) but the equivalent here was just more expensive.
Oh and the clothes were much skimpier! :eek: :o
Oh the arts were/are better in London. We were there for 4 weeks a few years ago and went to the theatre every week. Granted, they were silly comedies but being able to go to them was great! There aren't many plays and shows on here.
And gotta love the free museums and galleries!
And bagels! They just don't have real bagels in Australia!
millymoo
07-04-2007, 06:57
Millymoo, you can make bodyscrub with rolled oats, salt and whatever else you might like to put in. oils, herbs, yoghurt, fruit etc
Oohh Punkydiva...that sounds pretty good. You sound abit of an expert on that one! I had a look on the label and it had rice grains in so perhaps they went mouldy! Have a very happybirthday!!
Millymoo - :hugs: I'm afriad the supermarkets particually will be open, BH/Sunday trading hours Friday and Monday and closed Sunday. Saying that Coles up here in the Hills is open over the BH weekend (except Sunday) but I haven't noticed if I can get alcohol in there.
Now if you want beer.......ask around some neighbours for a meal, they'll ask what they can bring and you can say 'just some beer', can't fail
Hmmm...we thought of everthing!!(DH mentioned staying in a hotel and raiding the mini bar!) Not at that stage with the neightbours yet!! Another problem here...we never see any! The houses are all so individual and set back from the street.Few waves and that`s it. Mum and Dad also noticed this and they were here 3 mths. We are a little bit country here tho!
[quote=Beany;1309318]
Oh and the clothes were much skimpier!
Hmmm yes they are! I have a huge range of going out gear in my wardrobe that just wouln`t look right here....or was I just a bit of a slapper in my hey day in Leeds!!:eek:. Saturdays were all about finding a new outfit for that night..oh the memories.
Pixie...you are probably in bed as I type so :wave: for when you wake.
H x
Londonmum
07-04-2007, 10:58
Beany - Mark One is still about ;) I think the reason certain stuff is more expensive here (Auz) is because a lot of it will be shipped from Europe and so they will have to factor in cost of transportation and then there is the inport tax :rolleyes: In the UK there is no tax on books, toys and childrens clothes.
Millymoo - I know it can be hard but we went to one of our neighbours and said :wave: and ask them a few questions about what we were supposed to do like when to put the rubbish out and since then they have become very good friends......it's a risk but maybe invite your neighbours round for a BBQ and kind of a get to know each other thing. I know it's very unlike a brit to do that :p but it'll be worth it.
Gosh are you all still hankering for some booze? :laughing:
The shops should be open today - our local shopping centre is. Will be closed tomorrow so stock up!
Millymoo: I meant the clothes *here* are skimpier :p Too bleeding cold to be skimpy over there! It was a bit of a shock when I went out at the end of June here looking for something to go out to dinner in.
Something that stopped me dead in my tracks was when I was flicking through the Yellow Pages looking for job agencies when I first arrived. Flick flick flick :eek: Things that I'd only seen displayed as cards in a West End phone booth right there in the Yellow Pages!
And the sex shops that were just placed willy-nilly (no pun intended) on the street. Clothes shop, jewellery shop, strange Japanese shop that sells freaky stuffed toys, sex shop, shoe shop ... Big old culture shock right there!
PunkyDiva
07-04-2007, 11:44
We orig came from conservative old Brissie so seeing Anne Summers shops right there in the middle of the shopping strip, in Scotland was a big shock.
Someone always having a AS party on a Fri night. I was a BodyShop At Home Consultant and raided their consultants for party games as got the ladies in the mood to but to buy up big and some interesting uses for BodyShop products.:o
I love to make my own bodyscrubs etc (FunkyChicken used to sell at markets so she's prob a good one to ask for ideas), they are simple but mainly for a one of as don't keep well. Just putting some oats in a flannel and tying closed into a ball with rubber band, let water run over it while running bath then use to scrub body, but it is the salt/nut kernal etc that actually remove dead skin cells and I would use that directly on my body, if for face needs to be really fine or can damage skin. Plain old olive oil is a wonderful moisturiser.
So cold here in Melb last night and was thinking of late autums/early winter in Scotland when the crisp, clean winds would blow making your skin feel so tingly and alive of course after that you just got frostbite if exposed. We were on the edge of the Grampians so different climate to a lot of UK I beleive but oh sooo beautiful. Loch Ness in Autumn just took your breath away and invigorating walks along the beach on the west coast at easter, cliffs rising beside you, HUGE seagulls reeling in the sky above. Never really got over the size of seagulls, black backed ones that would peck out sheeps eyes so they fell of the cliffs and could be consumed. Their cries would echo through the cobble stoned streets like something outta a Steven Steilberg movie.
Oh I have tears in my eyes just remembering so I'm off to join the millions shopping for food just in case we run out:laughing: cause it is a long weekend and nothing will be open;)
*note to self* When in Scotland, wear sunglasses at all times ...
:eek:
er ...
:cool:
:wave: Girls oh I feel all warm and fuzzy coming and reading this thread! LOVE IT
Helen, can't really complain about DH's job and where we might end up living we're very blessed. I don't work haven't done since I was 11 weeks pregnant, He didn't want me working, he told me to stay home and gestate and I did lol
Booze ah yes had a few last night then remembered I am in the TWW so duh no beer for me! I hope you get some it's always nice to have a few when you have time off work!
ya Ann Summers WTH that's like right in the shopping mall HELOOOOO
Punky have a lovely birthday hope it's fun!
I love Scotland Loch Ness is so beautiful as is Loch Lomand it gets bad press but I really liked it there.
Glorious here today, bought some noice PJ's in M&S yesterday lurvely and soft feel like a nanna lol, and then Millets here is having a refurbish so had a huge sale got some nice cargo pants were 40 pounds got them for 11.20
going to Covent Garden again today and Neals Yard they have some nice baby bum cream/balm
xx Happy Easter!
I led a very sheltered existence. Until I was like 19, I thought Ann Summers was just a posh lingerie store. Never went in there (too much of a poor, scrounging student) so didn't think anything of it until my friend got a voucher for her birthday and everyone laughed. I looked confused. She had to take me aside and tell me what it was all about :o
It's okay, she's used to it. At the age of 11, she told me what "virgin" meant.
2pinkmonkeys
07-04-2007, 20:44
I have spent alot of time in both countries!!
I have dual citizenship.
I think is England is a fabulous, beautiful, country. And as a single, (well childless) thats where I would want to live. You can earn good money, travel is fantastic, with europe on your doorstep. Great shopping, clubs, restaurants, local friendly pubs.. I could go on..... (by the way I didn't live in London)
However having kids in England is different!! And I have now chosen now to live in Australia. The cold, the dark, the costs, make it quite gloomy....
I think Australia is definately the better place to bring up kids, with the fresh air, beaches, more relaxed lifestyle.
I miss England, especially TESCO, M & S and my all time favourite NEXT!!! I am getting MIL to post it to me, I go through the online catalogue and Pay her through Paypal.. Why is there nothing here that compare to that shop, especially the kids clothes, mind you and ladies and homeware..ohh I love that shop, and ist so reasonable.
Anyway each to their own. They both have good and bad points...
I miss NEXT!!!
Jo x
Londonmum
07-04-2007, 22:19
Pixie - Glad to hear your feeling allWarm and fuzzy ;)
Ok now your making me a little home sick :D I could kill do to some shopping in M&S, Millets or Covent Garden. Even Bromley with all it's lovely stores including Next and ' Disney Store' I have not yet seen a Disney Store here (Adelaide) anywhere. I take it you have been to Candam Market? Now that is a must.
SophieandMaisie - I know what you mean about Next, I have a friend in the UK who is a really big Next shopper, she goes to the sales and picks up clothes for my DD. Shortly after x-mas we got 2 small boxes full of clothes, it was great and they are lovely clothes. When DD was born she went and brought enough clothes for DD that I really didn't have to buy anymore for her (I did but I didn't have to :laughing: ). In fact knowing that I was going to have another child (not preggers yet) I went and spent a load of money of Next maternity wear, I want to look good when i'm fat :p
I think the UK is a great place to live if you have the money, otherwise it's just a nice place to visit.
There used to be a Disney Store in Sydney (in the food court in Pitt Street - you remember that place Nat? :D) but they closed up and went away about 6 years ago. One of the girls there told me that all the stores in Australia were closing up for some reason.
Now, there's only Warner Bros stores scattered here and there.
2pinkmonkeys
07-04-2007, 23:35
Actually I so agree with that LondonMum.
If you have Money, England is Great. Fabulous In fact...
You certainly wouldn't want to be poor in England.
How true growing up/ teen years we were very poor we ate every other day and then it was a tin of beans between myself and my mother, I worked 60 hours a week and earned 400 pounds a month sounds like slave labour lol
It's very weird coming back living here and in a different situation I feel like I haven't lived here before in many ways, I am learning it all again.
The weather here is weird we have both got sunburnt the last two days I swear today was in the 20's yesterday was 18+ very nice and welcome.
PD hope you had a nice Birthday we had a nice First BD party very small would of been great had we of been there so I was quite meaning very sad about that situation.
Well I am off to bed my sore throat is hurting like cr@p!
xx
millymoo
10-04-2007, 05:39
Pixie I am glad Eliza had a nice 1st birthday.
:thumbsdown: sorry about your throat!
I agree with the UK and the money thing, although couldn`t really see how expensive it was until we came here and how material and designer things are so important over in the UK. When I arrived I would dinx about in my latest Jasper Conran( I wasn`t at the Gucci level!) bits and nobody had ever heard of them!
Beany...yes I did think you meant skimpier over there! I was obviously a true slapper....Sat nights were it for me and my girlies and only the wimps took a coat , even if it was snowing!!:eek:
PD .. Happy bday ...hope you had a good time.
Milly awake so BBL
H x
I agree with the UK and the money thing, although couldn`t really see how expensive it was until we came here and how material and designer things are so important over in the UK. When I arrived I would dinx about in my latest Jasper Conran( I wasn`t at the Gucci level!) bits and nobody had ever heard of them!
How strange! I found the complete opposite - went to uni in London wearing sports tops (Reebok, Adidas and so forth) and cheapo jeans and fitted in perfectly. Over here, every other student is sporting pair of Gucci sunnies, Sass and Bide jeans, Juicy Couture track pants ... I've found it far FAR more designer gear orientated here. Perhaps it's just a Sydney thing, though.
Hey Easter made me think of a new one! In the UK, we have Cadbury's Cream Eggs available all years round ("How do YOU eat yours?") whereas they are only out here for Easter. Same with Cadbury's mini eggs - the one with the demented parrot ...
Oh, and I wasn't afraid of spiders in the UK. I used to pick them up on a piece of paper and take them out to the garden. Here, I scream and shriek and carry on like a right little girl. Eventually, I end up drowning the poor bugger in Mortein and leaving that area of the room until my husband comes home to dispose of the soggy corpse.
millymoo
10-04-2007, 17:32
Hi
Yes I think Sydney is very diffrent from country oz!!
Spiders:eek:...I am still waiting for a huntsman to crawl across my windscreen when driving!! Common apparently!!:eek::eek:
H x
I use to be terrified of spider then did a 6 month de-sensitising course and am fine can pick them up and everything. I don't like them but at least I don't have panic attacks any more I stopped going to the park as I was sure I would be attacked by human eating spiders :D
millymoo
11-04-2007, 19:34
I know...the first we had and last so far was so big it was much bigger than my hand:eek::eek:
I emailed pics home and people were just firing back..."what the "*£! is that!!"
Anyway no more on that as my skin is beginning to crawl!
Course sounded good...will remember that if fear increases.
How was the bday?
No flying roaches back home, either ...
Well, except for when the pollies are on British Airways :laughing:
ETA: Which reminds me! No decent political satire here! There was The Glass House which was akin to Have I Got News For You (goodness me I miss that show!) and CNNNN but nothing else, really. No Spitting Image (granted, that one's old) or that Rory Bremner show. Even the stand up comics like Ben Elton gave scathing political commentary ... nothing of the like here. Except that Rove will once in a while put on a Howard accent.
PunkyDiva
11-04-2007, 20:00
At least the papers here aren't filled with the Royal families every move.
Was a show on late at night in UK, similiar to Rove or maybe a cross with Letterman,but hosted by a wee, blond homosexual(is that still pol correct??) man, that would have me snortling quietly away (much to the prude in me's disgust)(**** grammar I know but ya get that). Damn can't think of his name.
And yes, the tabloids over there are atrocious. Which is why it's hilarious when a philandering Australian cricket player goes over there to hide from the press ...
Dear dear Warney ... what were you thinking?!
PunkyDiva
11-04-2007, 21:01
Graham Norton?
:yelclap: That was the fella
I haven't been watching much TV since we got here, except trash I love it :D
Rory Bremmner OMG he is so funny you know who I really like
Jon Stewart an American guy, he makes me laugh a LOT
LM the BD was good very nice to celebrate your childs first year, kinda lame as had it been in Australia would of been huge and loads of people ah well!
Ashleigh<3
11-04-2007, 23:37
I've just come up with an answer to your, "England makes me sick".
I know why!
(Not the weather), but because Pirates came from England and they brought scurvy to their land, then they invaded America and made all of the American Inidans sick. Then they invaded Australia and made the aboriginies sick.
I could be wrong. (My ingnorance is noted!).:p
PunkyDiva
11-04-2007, 23:47
:laughing: Sorry Ash, you're not ignorant but it was funny 'ole post.
Scurvy comes from lack of vit C and can't be passed on. So basically a severe nutritional imbalance.
The sailors were at sea sometimes years with only salted meat and rotten potatoes, onions, rice etc as fresh fruit and veg had to be consumed very quickly or would rot.
They did pass venereal diseases and expose natives to germs and pestilence otherwise unknown before they came.The English (note English not people from UK, go the Scottish revolution and uprising from English suppression)could very well go down in history as a nation of people with dirty habits:p (some we met still only bathed once a week).
Ashleigh<3
11-04-2007, 23:52
:laughing: Sorry Ash, you're not ignorant but it was funny 'ole post.
Scurvy comes from lack of vit C and can't be passed on. So basically a severe nutritional imbalance.
The sailors were at sea sometimes years with only salted meat and rotten potatoes, onions, rice etc as fresh fruit and veg had to be consumed very quickly or would rot.
They did pass venereal diseases and expose natives to germs and pestilence otherwise unknown before they came.The English (note English not people from UK, go the Scottish revolution and uprising from English suppression)could very well go down in history as a nation of people with dirty habits:p (some we met still only bathed once a week).
Lmao! Thank you for that PD.:D
When I was younger I used to enjoy stirring up my parents!
"Dad did you know your people didn't like Mum's people".
Yes, I've always been very misinformed!:laughing:
PunkyDiva
11-04-2007, 23:57
It's ok Ash my DH is so very smart and worldly that I often make a complete arsse of myself, but in typical Arien style refuse to back down (internet is so cool for finding stuff to back your arguement even when you know you're wrong).
Ashleigh<3
12-04-2007, 00:02
It's ok Ash my DH is so very smart and worldly that I often make a complete arsse of myself, but in typical Arien style refuse to back down (internet is so cool for finding stuff to back your arguement even when you know you're wrong).
I know how you feel, mine is always correcting me, I don't think I'm so stupid until I'm upagainst him.
It makes an attractive quality though, I'd rather him then a dingbat.
:laughing: Maybe he's thinking the same.
Londonmum
12-04-2007, 07:01
LM the BD was good very nice to celebrate your childs first year, kinda lame as had it been in Australia would of been huge and loads of people ah well!
It was the same for us but in reverse....ie had we been in UK then we'd have had a much bigger party then we had here. Still she had at least a half dozen friends so it wasn't to bad.
Next year we hope to be in UK on a little holiday and will have a get together there with family......note to self make sure to take 2 large case but have only 1 filled for trip to UK as will need other for trip back :rolleyes: :laughing:
It's ok Ash my DH is so very smart and worldly that I often make a complete arsse of myself, but in typical Arien style refuse to back down (internet is so cool for finding stuff to back your arguement even when you know you're wrong).
I know how you feel, mine is always correcting me, I don't think I'm so stupid until I'm upagainst him.
It makes an attractive quality though, I'd rather him then a dingbat.
:laughing: Maybe he's thinking the same.
I'm the same here, I think I'm positivly stupid compared to DH. But like you PD, I'll go to the internet if I want to find something out or prove a point.......but I don't have to do that often as it's usually DH who goes onto comp to try and prove me wrong :laughing:
OK girls heres one Australia doesn't win and that is public parks.
I know they have some amazing ones but yesterday my sister and I went to Greenwich park OMG hello stunning park and massive I absolutely loved it, didn't take my camera on purpose as I knew it would be nice and I would go back lol, for those who don't know me very well I am insane and have bizzare logic :D
It is just so huge and it was full of people 20C yesterday people sunbaking, young girls and they boyfriends under blossom trees, my heart skipped a beat when I saw that and though that might be Eliza one day perish the thought, she will be here until she has finished UNI and then she will get married lol
It has deer although we lost our selves a bit when the signs ran out later on back at home discovered they are in the flower garden.
Didn't see the time line thingo tho so will definitely have to go back!
And they have a huge *** playground for kids will be awesome when Eliza is a few months older as all she wanted to do was eat grass and chase dogs yesterday she has a major obsession with dogs presently and shouts at anything remotely dog like DOG DOG GOG GOG and races over yesterday she was headed towards a American pit bull which was fine except the woman owning it was a complete and utter wack job so we steered clear!
Enjoy your weekend everyone!
Oh Greenwich Park! Now that brings back memories .. we used to go hunting for conkers there. And run down the hills (scary!). And go on the paddle boats ... *sigh*
Go there in autumn, Nat. It'll be the most beautiful sight you've ever sign. And take a camera!
Have you been to Victoria Park yet? Awesome slides! :D
Londonmum
15-04-2007, 10:49
I have to say the parks in Adelaide are great, but your right the ones around the UK are better. I think it's that with land at a premium, we do the most we can with it. Even the park in Bromley (which took me about 5 years before I knew it was there :o It was well tucked away....behind the library, but is huge) is really nice and DD and I spent a fair bit of time there last summer with the mums I made friends with.
Pixie, enjoy Greenwich and not just the park. There are heaps of shops and antique markets you have to have a mooch around and check out the old book shops.....lots of hidden gems in them :thumbsup:
Today we trudged around Pimlico and Marleybone and have pretty much decided that we are going to look in that area for a place. We both really like it and the fact Regents park is right there which is a huge bonus. Pmlico was a real let down so we're not going to bother with it.
Eliza was sheer hell yesterday throwing tantrums like she is 2 is was horrid, my DP said he isn't going out with her again as he can't handle it. WE finally worked out she was to hot as it was around 25C yesteday and she wasn't to overdressed but enough for her to create a scene, oh that and me not allowing her to push the button on the bus to stop it created a back flinging, kicking screaming child she just turned 1 Have decided to teach her "hot" and "thirsty" in sign language this week she knows a few others I think those might help the tantrum situation lol
millymoo
15-04-2007, 15:32
Gosh they are nice areas. I lived in Maida Vale when I was 19 as an au pair and went to Regents park a few times. V V Nice too.
You sound like you are enjoying English summer/spring. To me you can`t beat it especially after the cold winter. 28c here in The Hunter! Not much difference.
Hope Eliza is ok now and will PM later
H x
PunkyDiva
16-04-2007, 10:05
Ohhh the UK winter/spring changeover, just wonderous. Temps dipping here in Vic but days when sun shines are lovely and leaves have turned and are falling so reminds me of UK. We even had a thick sea fog roll in the other night. Memories, although my Scottish freinds are still shivering in their boots after a vile winter.
Just had recall of a funny incident when we first arrived in Scottland and I asked which aisle the chips where in only to be directed to the freezer section or take-away shop done the way. Crisps, silly woman:laughing:
Or the day I promised a freinds child a lolly down the shops later and his look of dissappontment when he realised I meant sweeties and not an iceblock.:laughing:
Oh and never say togs or they will really think you bizarre. ROFL now.
millymoo
16-04-2007, 10:23
How funny? How old were you when you went to live there?
It happened to us the other way round really. Different words all the time and meanings.
In the end at work I got to notice when I had said something weird as people would just nod or smile but have a blank look across their faces and I would be like...what have I said now!
"Poorly" was one I used a lot if DD1 and DD2 were sick . They found that hilarious!!
or .. "Hi are you alright" left people looking shocked and asking "why do i look ill"!!!
Imagine if they heard them in the East End!
Hope you well punkydiva
H x
Millymoo: Don't forget the "thong".
For the first month or so I was here, people kept talking about their thongs and how cool and comfortable they were ... I was astounded that people would talk about undergarments like that in polite company! My sister in law was commenting once on a new pair of sparkly pink ones that she got ... She offered to show me and I very firmly refused.
How was I to know they didn't mean G-strings? :o
LOL
I bought some flip flops yesterday and at dinner announced I had bought a pair of thongs BIL said
"the ones for your feet or the ones for your @rse
It was so funny :D
PunkyDiva
16-04-2007, 15:11
Millymoo, we just left Scotland 18 months ago living there for nigh on 4 long, cold but mostly wonderful years.
Scotland is very different culturally, dialect(sp) etc then England.
Oh, they do like to talk about their Anne Summers Thongs don't they. I was lookin at their feet wondering how a closed in boot could be called a thong.
what are anne summer thongs?
I miss vegemite like mad, marmite is just blegh there's an Aussie shop in Covent Garden might go later this week get ripped off and have some toast :D
millymoo
16-04-2007, 15:41
Hi Punkydiva...yes thongs, my kids laughted so much at that word when they got here. Also spunky.....well that don`t mean fit in the UK!
I just did one today in the babyshop...dungarees,are apparently overalls!!
Pixie - Ann Summers is a naughty undies shop/ home party company and thongs are their knickers that go up ya bum!
I still say flip flops as I feel a traitor if I don`t and I still say sweets!!
H x
I am so tired that it went right over my head now you have said that I completely get what PD said lol
not helping being awake since 3.30am lol
I said spunk here the other week Helen I said ohh ya he's a spunk eh and my BIL went :laughing: and said you're back here now RE-MEM-BER lol
I keep saying pants as well as in trousers and say in public like "these pants are to hot" people look at me and I am like what are you looking at sheshh :D
I always get called the Aussie one and my DP the English one as he has a very neutral accent he's Turkish born there emigrated to Aus with his family when he was 2YO so he lived there 38 years but I think as he speaks two languages his aussie accent gets cancelled out weird he sounds dead posh lol
PunkyDiva
16-04-2007, 15:51
Pixie, not sure if you have a big Tesco near you but I asked if they could get Vegemite in and they did for a little while (guess noone else bought it). We were lucky to have an importer near my DH work but yes was still overpriced but on our necessity list so kids didn't forget who they really were:laughing:
Get someone here to post you vegemite transferred to a clean syrup tin, travels better.
We came up with this because my grandfather was stationed in Scotland during the war whilst nanna was down in Ipswich and he would crack fresh farm eggs(scarcity in england because of rationing) into a tin and post down to her and the kiddies.
Cordial being called squash was another one and yuck wasn't it vile. First purchase from servo at 2am on arrival from airport was a bottle of sarsparilla cordial, amoungst other long lost treats.
Oh I just read about pants and laughed so much I choked. DD freinds thought I was most peculiar. I loved to have a plate of fresh veges and dip waiting for their movie nites as the looks on their faces was priceless. Of course I'd go get the crisps and iron bru after that and eat the dip meself. Oh the poor wee bairns!!
millymoo
16-04-2007, 15:59
I am so tired that it went right over my head now you have said that I completely get what PD said lol
not helping being awake since 3.30am lol
I said spunk here the other week Helen I said ohh ya he's a spunk eh and my BIL went :laughing: and said you're back here now RE-MEM-BER lol
I keep saying pants as well as in trousers and say in public like "these pants are to hot" people look at me and I am like what are you looking at sheshh :D
I always get called the Aussie one and my DP the English one as he has a very neutral accent he's Turkish born there emigrated to Aus with his family when he was 2YO so he lived there 38 years but I think as he speaks two languages his aussie accent gets cancelled out weird he sounds dead posh lol
Yes you sound very aussiefied to me!! My DD`s are too. As we were living in Leeds since they were young they had really strong yorkshire accents. No one could understand them. The teachers had to ask them to slow down!Now they are so Australian!
DH is half english/half Indian and whenever we were in Turkey he would get stopped, asked directions in Turkish etc. In fact he looks more Turkish than a Turk!
Has Eliza got very olive skin? Milly has.
H x
millymoo
16-04-2007, 16:01
PD did you mean Squash was vile as I really miss Robinsons squash!
I have Coltees here but it is yukky!
I hate squash/cordial unless it's ribena lol
No she is lily white so fair and so blonde. Myself and DP were blonde as children and have got darker hair over the years
but last year she got a bit of sun and went very dark so I think she has the olive touch :D oh and I didn't sit her in the sun on purpose we were under shade and got burnt!
I am so proud of this picture I have to share, you can see how white she is lol this is our Family snap from her 1st BD :D
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a285/Bosister/Birthday/Family.jpg
millymoo
16-04-2007, 16:23
What a lovely looking family you are!!
PunkyDiva
16-04-2007, 16:29
You all look happy and healthy no deathly palour and Eliza just looks like a real cutie with that cheekie smile. Glad to see people still use the hair bands with bows, thought maybe they'd gone out of fashion on babies . My first DD had heaps of them as she was a baldie and people would say what a nice boy even when dressed all in pink.
Nat, give me your home addy via email and I'll send you some vegemite :)
Alternatively, ther Tescos in Bromley-By-Bow (right opposite the tube station) stocks it. Or at least it did in 2003/4.
Do they still have the Australia shop in covent garden? Handy for vegemite and other treats from here.
millymoo
16-04-2007, 20:18
I am a convert but as given up bread to lose some belly , not alot to put it on!!
Milly liked a bit on her tongue too. A true Aussie chick in the making!
Yeah, I hated Marmite but will eat a tiny bit of vegemite on toast on occasion. Marmite sort of tastes burnt.
Do they still have the Australia shop in covent garden? Handy for vegemite and other treats from here.
I lived at that shop on my way to getting pasties. Although they thought I was strange buying up 2 of every type FROZEN so I could take them home and have them whenever I wanted.
Londonmum
16-04-2007, 20:59
Wow it's been busy here :yes: i popped in at lunchtime and there were only a couple posts and I come back now and it's exploded.
I PMSL at some of the comments, I remember my DH telling me about the 'thongs' thing, he's from NZ and calls them jandles and I call them flip flops but when he told me aussies call them thongs....all I could think was, why would anyone wear their undies on their feet :laughing:
Not a vegemite or marmite fan.....Oh but have you tried NZ house? I can't recall exactly where it is but I know it's behind the NZ consulate (Central London) and next to Theatre showing Phantom of the Opera. Anyway, yes it's not cheap but if you need your fix ;)
Do also check out some of the bigger supermarkets (Sainsbury, Safeways, Tesco) too as they are getting more requests for certain things and they may already have some in.
As you are bringing up different names for stuff I thought I would share something that I said that didn't get a great reaction at the time.
I was working in accounts for a company called investors in people and the budget was stumping me and the office staff were all just chatting away and I didn't realise I had said aloud "Bugger me" Well the office went dead silent until I looked up and saw everyone staring and when I asked what was wrong the boss came over and said "Do you know what you just said?" I said yes why? Well what does it mean in Aus, So I told him and he said well here it means you want to be jabbed up the bum!!!!(his words, not mine) well I just ****ed myself laughing while he was getting redder and redder by the minute......then everyone cracked up because he was so embarrassed at having to explain it to me.
Oh there's a point - Australia House (in The Strand) reputedly has a store next to it.
That's what "bugger" means everywhere ... the actual meaning just got lost over here. Just like "sod".
Oh there's a point - Australia House (in The Strand) reputedly has a store next to it.
I know they have a pub there but I didn't see a shop, but then again it was 2 years ago.
millymoo
17-04-2007, 06:35
I have decided thong must mean between something...here it is your toes, in the UK it`s your bum cheeks!!:D
Do they still have the Australia shop in covent garden? Handy for vegemite and other treats from here.
Yep i love this store i order online and can get stuff like burger rings, twisties, redskins, bbq shapes, milo, cottees cordial and tim tams - all the really nutritious things!
Has anyone else noticed that KFC tastes like **** in the UK? I im dying for nice seasoned chips and gravy that doesnt taste like water!
Covent garden here I come lol
Moops I agree I had KFC here the other week a very last resort I add and it was as expected foul.
I only ever liked the chicken nuggets anyway!
Talking of Ann Summers they have a shop in Bromely and my DP said one day what's in that shop? So I said come on then lets look, knowing full well what's in there :D we walked in and he said "ohhhh, lets go now" he still had one foot outside the door! No thongs for me :p
Jandles ah yes I have heard that too from my Kiwi friends.
AND they dont sell chicken nuggets! What is up with that!! Lately i have been really craving food from home like good KFC, red rooster etc, i generally find the food here really poor.
Here is the Australia shop website its easier to order online if your not in London.
http://www.australiashop.co.uk/
Bewitched
17-04-2007, 20:58
- black grit is everywhere, it's on your face after a day of walking around, even when you blow your nose :o (sorry). It must just be suspended in the air - I guess. It's a bit icky.
Ewww, black grit everywhere?:barf: Hmmm, i will remember not to pack expensive clothes for that trip..
Londonmum
17-04-2007, 21:38
I have decided thong must mean between something...here it is your toes, in the UK it`s your bum cheeks!!
:laughing: Sounds about right to me, good translation
Covent garden here I come lol
Moops I agree I had KFC here the other week a very last resort I add and it was as expected foul.
I only ever liked the chicken nuggets anyway!
Talking of Ann Summers they have a shop in Bromely and my DP said one day what's in that shop? So I said come on then lets look, knowing full well what's in there :D we walked in and he said "ohhhh, lets go now" he still had one foot outside the door! No thongs for me :p
Jandles ah yes I have heard that too from my Kiwi friends.
I found the best chips/fries you can get are from Burger King (UK equiv to Hungrey Jacks) and the best chicken nuggets are McDonalds esp with their sweet curry sauce....yum
Did he really walk back out without brousing first? Wow now theres a thing, you'd think any guy would be in there like a shot:laughing:
If you want some nice thongs, try La Senza in the Glades (Bromley).
Talking of Bromley, I used to go there all the time (I lived in Grove Park near by). Do you live near there or did you just go there for shopping ? (I'm sure you said where you live already but I'm suffering from a mushy brain at the mo.
Bewitched it isn't that bad probably not a good idea to wear white!
LM I am in Hayes so I hop a bus into the Glades.
Look, it can't be that bad. I watched Neighbours recently and Izzy was wearing a lovely, bright white coat that remained clean all day. Even though she gave birth to her daughter in it. On the Thames.
Londonmum
18-04-2007, 12:15
LM I am in Hayes so I hop a bus into the Glades.
If your interested in meeting some really nice mums in Bromley for coffee/chat/whatever then let me. I know a few really nice ladies and still keep in touch with them now :thumbsup:
millymoo
18-04-2007, 16:14
Yep i love this store i order online and can get stuff like burger rings, twisties, redskins, bbq shapes, milo, cottees cordial and tim tams - all the really nutritious things!
Has anyone else noticed that KFC tastes like **** in the UK? I im dying for nice seasoned chips and gravy that doesnt taste like water!
They do do a really nice ice cream though called an Avalanche...bit like a big mcflurry and I can`t get that here!
Ewww, black grit everywhere?:barf: Hmmm, i will remember not to pack expensive clothes for that trip..
Where is this black grit...I have never heard of it. ?? Enlighten me!
H x
Yep i love this store i order online and can get stuff like burger rings, twisties, redskins, bbq shapes, milo, cottees cordial and tim tams - all the really nutritious things!
Has anyone else noticed that KFC tastes like **** in the UK? I im dying for nice seasoned chips and gravy that doesnt taste like water!
Moops your kidding me right? Get yourself off to a good chippie and get a chip bab and gravy.....yummmmm. At our local chinese in the uK your chips automatically came with gravy, peas and onion:chef:
Mouth drools......
millymoo
18-04-2007, 19:11
The poor UK is getting a right hammering at the mo!
I think at the end of the day our taste buds must get used to things.
I wonder ...every Brit I have met here hates the chocolate in Oz, especially Cadbury`s. Do the Aussies hate our Cadbury`s I wonder...Moops?
Moops your kidding me right? Get yourself off to a good chippie and get a chip bab and gravy.....yummmmm. At our local chinese in the uK your chips automatically came with gravy, peas and onion:chef:
Mouth drools......
Ehhh..still doesnt compare with the secret seasoning of KFC!
Also another thing that gets me is when you order a hamburger etc from a local chippie all you get is the meat and some sauce on a roll! No salad or anything!! They really give u the bare minimum here!
The poor UK is getting a right hammering at the mo!
I think at the end of the day our taste buds must get used to things.
I wonder ...every Brit I have met here hates the chocolate in Oz, especially Cadbury`s. Do the Aussies hate our Cadbury`s I wonder...Moops?
Yeah its funny you should say that, my DP is English and he doesnt like it at all!
millymoo
18-04-2007, 19:34
But Moops do you find the English Cadbury`s tastes weird?
hehehe I just bought two bars of the Cadburys Bubbly Dairy Milk today :D
Yum yum!
And yes, my strange husband actually prefers to Aussie version.
Oh and on a different note, the UK has Mothercare!
I miss Mothercare :(
millymoo
18-04-2007, 19:51
Me too Beany!! And Boots!
the chocolate debate will go on forever. I buy Lindt. Can`t go wrong there.
Love the new avatar but won`t forget the last!
Oh I have just come back from Mothercare, it some ways it's a real let down, in others it's fantastic. I went to M&S and looked at the kiddie winks clothes they are very noice, I get every thing for Eliza in Primark love that shop. I want some soft shoes for her. She started Walking yesterday will wait a while until she is really walking full time.
Looks like we might be moving out of my sisters as soon as 4 weeks wow
millymoo
18-04-2007, 20:45
How great to be in your own place!
What suburb are you going to be in?
hx
Well I am going to look firstly for a place in Marleybone, then Kensington/Chelsea.
Rather hoping everything including our car arrived yesterday still waiting for confirmation.
Going back to the topic of food
I love the fish N Chips here :D and much prefer the chocolate.
PunkyDiva
18-04-2007, 22:58
Pixie, your comment about your stuff arriving reminded me of our terrible experience. we had decided we would send everything by air as told it would take a week max after we requested it sent. Well 10 weeks later it turned up, had ben sitting in the open at Singapore airport most of this time being loaded and unloaded apparently because it was too weighty. To top it off plastic protective coverings had come off so we lost a lot of books and bedding to damp and mould, was sooo unimpressed.
We used to drive 45 mins to just outside St Andrews for the best fish'n'chippies in the world we reckon.
I loved the fact that anywhere I went in UK I could guarantee a sweetie shop with handmade chocolate and fudge.
Not impressed with a donor kebab from a Turkish take away that was some lamb slices, raw onion and untoasted. Filled it with salad and sauce at home then toasted in the frypan. Have now found a brilliant place in Frankston to buy them but never had another in Uk after that experience. Similiar to the "hamburgers"(we found that weird too, not even any butter on the roll) I guess.
Jeez PD that's terrible no troubles with ours yet :fingerscrossed:
Funny eh, I much prefer Kebabs here lol
oh and I forgot to say to H & PD thanks for the compliments on the picture!
The best donor kebabs are in the east end. They slice up the lovely slivers of lamb and then fry them in chilli oil, stuff them into warmed naan bread ...
Ooooh I'm drooling at the memory!
You should do something about that drooling love, I know you say it's the kebabs, but I know you in RL :p
Oi, "kebabs" could be a euphemism ... :p
But no, it's just the slack-jawed yokel coming out in me.
Excited about your stuff arriving, huh? Got a new car battery ready? :D
ha ha
new battery car isn't even 1 year old yet!!
Yeah, erm ... I wasn't talking about for your car.
It's for that other thing.
The giant one ...
ohhhhhhh that my ginourmous dildo giggles ohh I remember that day so well :D
Ashleigh<3
19-04-2007, 00:39
I just remembered where my Dad is from, Derby or Darby? Either way, you pronounce it different to the spelling.
:o
Derby said like derbee
in my accent anyway :D
millymoo
19-04-2007, 06:54
Going back to Donner Kebabs...never knew anyone eat one sober.....I think that is the trick to enjoying it!
hi
Just reading through the posts having a good laugh.
I remember when I first moved to the UK and told my hubby I wanted some thongs for the summer, he was so excited until he realised I meant flip flops.
Now that we are back in OZ he refuses to call flip flops thongs, says it is too embarassing.
Also remember everyone looking at me strangely when I asked where I could buy singlets, finally realised you had to ask for vests.
Most importantly both DH and I have to agree that chocolate in the UK does really taste better than here in OZ.
Fiona
Going back to Donner Kebabs...never knew anyone eat one sober.....I think that is the trick to enjoying it!
Wouldnt touch one sober:laughing: you know you've had a good night when you wake up next to a lettuce leaf and slice of tomato:laughing:
Right we've done the chocolate and chips what about crisps? Walkers cheese and onion, M&S prawn cocktail yummmmmm.
Golden Wonder cheese and onion ... Though I don't think Golden wonder exists anymore. Or perhaps I just wasn't looking.
And McCoys Chilli! Those were good!
But the old favourite: pickled onion Monster Munch!
Ashleigh<3
19-04-2007, 09:39
And McCoys Chilli! Those were good!
Those are the crisps right? They are so yummy.
My Grandma (from England too), eats to much of these, doesn't help that she's a diabetic the poor thing. I guess she wants to pass away happy, with a box of chocolates in her arms too!
Bless her cotton sox.
Golden Wonder cheese and onion ... Though I don't think Golden wonder exists anymore. Or perhaps I just wasn't looking.
And McCoys Chilli! Those were good!
But the old favourite: pickled onion Monster Munch!
Monster Munch:D In a way they were so disgusting but also nice! A bit like pork scratchings:eek:
Mccoys were good and Smiths s&v squares...OMG I've really got my "fat head" on today!
PunkyDiva
19-04-2007, 11:43
Beany, Golden wonder was still there when we left:thumbsup:
I remember turning up my nose at the weird flavours of crisps but when kids finally got me to try some you'd be happy to know I became a fan. I had forgotten about all those different crisps.
There was a supermarket that just sold frozen foods, meat, veges, junk etc and really cheap, I miss it.
millymoo
19-04-2007, 13:04
Walkers cheese and onion are the absolute best!!I had a boyfriend who used to buy a packet of nuts too in pub and mix them up on the ripped open crisp packet!!
My kids miss skips.
McCoys were just lush.Mouth watering now!!
Stop:eek:
h x
Londonmum
19-04-2007, 13:42
Wow I missed a lot not being online yesterday :yes:
The poor UK is getting a right hammering at the mo!
I think at the end of the day our taste buds must get used to things.
I wonder ...every Brit I have met here hates the chocolate in Oz, especially Cadbury`s. Do the Aussies hate our Cadbury`s I wonder...Moops?
I have to say the chocolate does taste different between the 2 countries but Cadburys is Cadbursy as far as I'm concerned it's all good :laughing:
Ehhh..still doesnt compare with the secret seasoning of KFC!
Also another thing that gets me is when you order a hamburger etc from a local chippie all you get is the meat and some sauce on a roll! No salad or anything!! They really give u the bare minimum here!
Ah well, don't go to the chippies for a burger....go to a kabab shop, they do burgers and always offer salad with your burger.
Oh I have just come back from Mothercare, it some ways it's a real let down, in others it's fantastic. I went to M&S and looked at the kiddie winks clothes they are very noice, I get every thing for Eliza in Primark love that shop. I want some soft shoes for her. She started Walking yesterday will wait a while until she is really walking full time.
Looks like we might be moving out of my sisters as soon as 4 weeks wow
:smiliedance: Yay, moving into your own place soon!! I bet your excited about that.
Mother care is great but hay you can order online and they will dispatch to Auz :thumbsup: Though be aware that postal prices are according to size and weight so might be expensive if you get a lot or something big. I loved Primark myself, so cheap and yet lovely kids clothes.
Crisps - I can't remember the brand name but it's the ones where you have a seperate salt pack and you can add your own salt to the crisps......Loved that as a kid, not so much of a crisp eater now though but Walkers ready salted are yummy.
Londonmum
19-04-2007, 15:28
Frazzles....Oh yeh, Yum.....one down side for me with them is that I end up having bacon flavour repeating on me for hours afterwards. :barf: I like them first time round but not for the next couple hours after. :laughing:
:laughing: ah dear. Kebabs every Friday night at my sisters we have them, sadly I am sober as I am in the TWW dying for a drink lol
Nat: what's a TWW?
And I have always had a donor kebab sober. I've never been anything but sober :angel:
two week wait....ohhhhhh yes I might be knocked up again :D
Surely alcohol aides in the getting knocked up stakes? :D
millymoo
19-04-2007, 16:43
Oooh exciting!! Good luck Pixie!
:fingerscrossed:.
Those areas are rather posh my dear in London!
Will you still speak with us!!
H x
I know they are posh eh, I am so not going to fit in lol ah well we'll see.
Yes thanks for the :fingerscrossed:
Bewitched
19-04-2007, 17:03
Look, it can't be that bad. I watched Neighbours recently and Izzy was wearing a lovely, bright white coat that remained clean all day. Even though she gave birth to her daughter in it. On the Thames.
LMAO! :laughing:
Londonmum
19-04-2007, 19:58
Pixie - :fingerscrossed: Hope it comes back a :bfp:
We are trying at the mo to have number 2 but nothing yet and I don't think the alcohol thing would work for me....DH is a real stickler for doing things right and that includes no alcohol whilst trying to conceive :no: :laughing:
Hey London Mum!
Where abouts are u in London? I live in SW London. Enjoying the weather!!
Londonmum
19-04-2007, 20:25
Hey London Mum!
Where abouts are u in London? I live in SW London. Enjoying the weather!!
Not in London anymore :D Emigrated to Adelaide Nov last year. But I did live in Grove park (between Bromley and Lewisham).
ahhhhh now I know where Grove Park is I seen the stop on the train to the city :D
OK the truth I got a feint :bfp: yesterday but tested again today nothing I am 2 days late, I am not hopeful this is my first cycle and by gawd it's hard to get it on lol
LM how old is your first?
Londonmum
20-04-2007, 10:55
Pixie - I know the feeling, we are trying for number 2 and I'm just too damn tired half the time to get the energy up for it :laughing:
Still if you got a feint show yesterday then that looks to be promising, give it another couple days and try again or pop to the GP and get them to do it ;)
My little one is only 14 months old how about yours ?
I got another :bfn: this morning, I am not to fussed first cycle etc.
Eliza is just 12 mths LM going to PM you now!
Londonmum
20-04-2007, 13:55
Pixie - Bummer on the preg test, still I'm sure your hubby is enjoying all the practice :p :laughing:
It's only been 3 months for me (got a :bfn: at weekend myself) but i'm not worried either as I know some mums who took 8 months + to concieve.
Will look out for PM.....got a quiet day here at work and trying to find stuff to do to keep awake :D
PunkyDiva
21-04-2007, 10:55
Wow, all these ladies TTCing, must be something in the air.
My fingers and toes(def not my legs though:o ) are crossed for you all. Never realised fully how complicated and frustrating, not to mention time consuming, this business was when you are trying on purpose.
My baby sis had a show and labour pains this morning so my wee neice may be on her way as I type.:fingerscrossed: Although we're not halfway round the world anymore it still feels like it but I'll keep calling and go up for a weekend mid to late May.
Have a great day ladies:thumbsup:
Londonmum
21-04-2007, 15:19
How exciting! your going to be an aunty :smiliedance:
Is this your first niece/nephew? or do you have others ?
I have one niece and I haven't seen her since my DD was 4 months ol (shes 14 months old now) and I only saw her then cause DH and I made the effort to go to my sisters so we could get pics of DD with her cousin. My sister only live the other side of London to me and could'nt be bothered to call me or visit when we had DD (shes a very selfish and self absorbed person unfortunatly) even though I had made a huge effort to see her and her daughter when she gave birth.
So good for you, I'm sure your sister will really appriciate your visiting her when her bub is born.
millymoo
21-04-2007, 16:00
Any news PD?
How exciting. Any baby news is great...I have felt like that since having Amelia!:)
H x
PunkyDiva
21-04-2007, 16:14
No news yet but her mobile is still turned of which is unheard of so :fingerscrossed: all is going well. She's trying for a VBAC and cause she's early and we only just made contact with a doula not sure if she wouldhave been able to get there.
Thought of ringing hospy to see if she's in there as don't know any of her freinds no's but might be OTT. just impatience once again and I hate not knowing.:p
Thus far I have four nephews 6,4,2 & 1 and one neice 4. I have stepsisters with another three boys and one girl but we have no contact so don't really go there. But only one nephew and this new neice will be blood relatives to me so just makes it that itsy bit more exciting without being mean or anything as I love them all IYKWIM.
Hope she rings soon as starting to get a bit worried that's over 10 hours she would have been labouring now.
Londonmum
21-04-2007, 20:48
PD - Hows it going? Any news? Do your parents have any of her friends no's or has her partner got his phone on?
10 hours labour is tough, hope she wont have to bare it much longer then that. I was in hosp for 3 days with contractions but fortunately it was only the last 2 hours that were bad :laughing:
I know what you mean about the nieces and nephews, I have 3 nephews and 3 nieces on my husbands side who we love to bits (not including his step brother and sister.....don't even know if they have any children) but I only have one blood niece of my own and not seeing or getting to speak to her will be tough, but we will make sure she knows we are always here for her.
PunkyDiva
22-04-2007, 01:22
Londonmum - thanks and Parents?? what parents, I disowned ours years ago with very good reason that I would never delve too deeply into as have dealt with and put to rest. :crying: but releived. Sis won't contact them till after she's home with bubs.
3 days with contractions you are a super woman!! More then 10 hours and I start to whine a bit.
Yes I now have her DH mobile no as I called the hospy and was put through to her(was amazed she could still talk fine after all this time, what a strong, determined young woman she is), still waitin but I managed to get her not one but two doulas on standby to suport and help her to her VBAC:yelclap:
PD that's great I hope she has gotten her VBAC, I will be going for one with my next baby.
I disowned my mother too, I feel so guilty but had to lead a normal life of happiness.
oh I love this thread just started it as a rantey/ compare thing and now have made new friends love it :D
Any news yet? How exciting! My sister's first birth took a few days (!) and her second a few hours.
Mine took a few weeks! :laughing: I was in pre-labour and dilating, losing my plug, regenerating, dilating, losing my plug for literally weeks. I was 5cms dilated when I went to the hospital and I didn't even realise I was in labour.
Oh boy did I realise when the contractions began in force though :eek:
:fingercrossed: for your sister's VBAC!
Nat: what's the deal with the TWW if you've got a negative? This all sounds terribly scientific and confusing to me! :fingerscrossed: for you, too. For everything.
millymoo
22-04-2007, 10:00
Me too! It is great when a thread turns into friendly chatting.
I started on in the Hunter section just introing myself and about 5 of us regularly chat now and I met 2 of them last week! We`ll have to call this one a long distance relationship though....especially you Pixie.
PD any news...must be by now!! VBAC. I hope it goes well for her
LM you were superwoman! My memories are still pretty fresh in my mind:eek:
Waiting to hear bubba news...
H x
millymoo
22-04-2007, 10:01
Ooops you popped in while I was typing away.
:wave:Beany !
Hiya Helen :wave: How's the little one's feeding going?
(better go feed mine now that I remembered! Oops! :laughing: )
PunkyDiva
22-04-2007, 10:58
:smiliedance: ISOBEL PAIGE has arrived just after 8am 7lb 6oz and 50.2??cm long, full head of hair and fed for ages. 28 hours of labour in total but her doula Kylie was amazing apparently. All started happening at about 2am this morning, she was exhausted so suction was used to bring Isobel into the world (sis only used some gas and wonderful encouragement and backrubs from Kylie:thumbsup: ). Sis says Dh is goping for the snip and she doesn't know how I can have done that 5 times and being going back again, but we all say that I think:D . She had a small episiotomy and is sooo sore but staying in hospy for 24hrs then home to rest and settle and enjoy Isobel properly. Big Brother Josh(4) was yelling & screaming and jumping around when they phoned to tell him.
I can't wait to find some spare cash and go up for the weekend as we were o/s when Josh was born and only met him last year, then had him and sis down for a week this year (cried when we had to say goodbye), so want to make sure I get to know my beautiful new neice as a newborn this time around and give my sis the support and love they we thought was lost between us. Ohhh I'm so excited.
Any news Pixie on your TWW, Everything except my legs LOL crossed for you sweet and I know that perfect house is waiting for you to find. Prob a very strange thing but I miss houses and architecture and associated history from UK. Ok I'll stop blah, blah, blah and post so you can all read now. I love the people on this thread too:hugs: xxx
millymoo
22-04-2007, 11:41
:yelclap:PD great news and congratulations on being an Auntie again! She did very well by the sounds of it.Back Rubs and gas is all I had. The MW kept telling DH to rub my back with the oil and it droves me nuts...like a burning sensation. Nearly punched his lights out!
Beany we are back on solids...well cereal for a week once a day and it is going well. She is showing more interest in food but still loves the boobs best!Love yr avatar..Milly has a suit similar fron Next and we call her the convict too when she has it on. Very cute!Do you still meet other BUBHUB mums in Sydney. There are a few meets up here now and again and have been to two so far.
H x
Ooooh Punky how lovely! Lovely news and a lovely name! I think she's a bit of a superhero, your sister, for going VBAC with nothing more than some gas and a back rub. Good stuff! Now lets see if your brother in law goes for the snip using the mind over matter approach :laughing:
Helen: thank you on the avatar compliment :D I have had a few requests to change it back to the turtle-face one but I think I'll stick with my convict. I'm glad the solids are going well. It took me a fair while to get myself used to the idea of giving him solids - I was so reluctant. And then he refused them after all that. The things these babies put us through, eh?
I also had no idea where to start. In the UK, my sister and sisters-in-law used Milupa. The Farex equivalent here is flavourless ... literally.
Oh and no Farleys Rusks :( I remember taking a few nibbles of those myself when I was feeding my nephews. They just smelled so good!
PS: yeah, I try to get along to some of the meet ups. Gets a bit difficult as I don't drive but luckily most of the locations are within reasonable walking distance to public transport.
I've been to a few - went to one in Homebush on Friday and am still knackered now! Asher was/is teething and so very very clingy. He wouldn't go into the stroller for very long at all so I was hauling his 9.5kg bum around in a carrier all day.
Beany I was still in the TWW as didn't change my sig lol done it now! :D
Congrats PD for becoming an Aunty again!! She did really well how wonderful!
Ah meet-ups how I miss those! Here I have found just like when I was growing up, it's so hard to get into a group if they are already friends on Friday I stayed and chatted with the other mums and we were talking about sleep or lack of it for the kids and I spoke and they looked at me as if to say "who asked you?" and turned and carried on chatting so I just got up and left. I am not very good in social situations anyway to nervous.
Hey ho xx
Londonmum
22-04-2007, 14:37
PD - Congrats to your lil sis :smiliedance: Wow 28 hrs labour. Good that you managed to get 2 doulas on standby for her and that she got the birth she wanted.
Understand re the parents thing, I've had other friends who have done as much and sometimes that is what it takes to be happy, so don't feel bad about it (nor you Pixie).
I'm no superwoman, the contractions I had were barely noticeable. The reason I knew I was having them was cause you could see my belly contract, but otherwise I felt nothing till they put a Cyntosin pump up on me and then it was 2 hrs of hell and no pain killers. Tried the gas but that made me gag which in turn made the pain worse so I was better off without it :rolleyes:
Tried the low suger rusks on my DD, she hated them. Her first taste of food was wheatabix and she really wanted to eat it but I made it too thick, but because she was so keen to eat it we then got proper puree food and she guzzled it down. Now though she is proving a very difficult 14 month old and getting food into her is a test of patience and wills :D
I have to agree it's nice chatting to all you lovely ladies :thumbsup:
Londonmum
22-04-2007, 14:41
Pixie - I completely understand what your saying about trying to chat to other mums, it's happened to me as well and that then makes it harder for you to put yourself out there again. But don't give up, keep trying and as I said in my last PM I can give you a link that will help you to meet other mums in the UK/in your area. :yes:
I must be very blessed Eliza has eaten well from day one she will eat anything,there is nothing she doesn't like Fruit being her fave thing if she sees a banana she will throw a tantrum if you don't give it to her. Of course despite it being a banana I let her ride her tantrum out but ignoring her and when she is quiet and playing I offer it lol Her tantrums have got so much less though not even a minute long any more and she is signing so that helps as well!!
People are often amazed at what she eats we decided the other night to let her try chili and see what she would do....she had a teeny tiny bit made my tongue burn, her well she just ate it and pointed at the rest for more....no we didn't give her any!
millymoo
22-04-2007, 16:24
Farleys Rusks...yes how can they not have them here Beany! It is sooooo unfair and I know little Milly would love them. I did love the other av but nice to see growth spurts!
I have decided LM that we are all superwomen for giving birth! As I said the memory is still fresh for me.:eek:. the pain!
Pixie I think groups in the UK can be pretty clicky. I am just struggling to find them here. The one in the church is too religious and small and the ones thru the hub are just getting going. Wherever I llived in the UK the church hall or village hall always had gps and about 20-40 mums would go along. Do you think you will go back? If I went and found it clicky then I would just busy myself with bub (dd1) and eventually got chatting.Not always with anyone I had anything in common with but it was a start.
Londonmum
22-04-2007, 21:16
People are often amazed at what she eats we decided the other night to let her try chili and see what she would do....she had a teeny tiny bit made my tongue burn, her well she just ate it and pointed at the rest for more....no we didn't give her any!
Eliza you go girl :laughing: Good for her, hopefully you'll never have trouble feeding her.
I have decided LM that we are all superwomen for giving birth! As I said the memory is still fresh for me.:eek:. the pain!
Your right there, we have to be esp those who go on to have 2, 3, 4, 5 kids :eek:
Pixie I think groups in the UK can be pretty clicky. I am just struggling to find them here. The one in the church is too religious and small and the ones thru the hub are just getting going. Wherever I llived in the UK the church hall or village hall always had gps and about 20-40 mums would go along. Do you think you will go back? If I went and found it clicky then I would just busy myself with bub (dd1) and eventually got chatting.Not always with anyone I had anything in common with but it was a start.
Clicky groups are not just restricted to the UK, I found it clicky here too but fortunatly for me I had found this forum a few months before coming over and started chatting to some of the ladies in Adelaide and they arranged a meet up with me. It was good but in some ways I still feel like an outsider (I meet up with them on a fairly regular basis) which is not how I felt when I made mum friends in the UK, but I guess it's swings and roundabouts....just have to stick to it :D
OK we need to send care packages lol rusks to you guys and vegemite to me lol
Cliquey groups ah yes as a young twenty something in Sydney it was hard for me all the girls I worked with had their school friends/Uni friends it was so hard for me, but working in a hospital there was always heaps of foreign people so I made friends with them, loads of friends now from all over the place!
Had a glorious day in Covent Garden ya I know I go there a lot lol met my brother who just got married, and chilled out the London Marathon was on so all the roads were closed so we walked a little bit was lovely.
LM I know the website you're talking about ages ago before you moved to Aus and you had just joined this website you gave it to me :D
OK bath time here
Oh and my brother who is an expert on Breastfeeding told me today is it bad to feed them past 6 months that's what the medical people here in the UK recommend I bet him a hundred quid he was wrong and not to argue with me the breastfeeding Nazi :D KNOB
Pixie you should have gotten your vegemite from the Australian shop whilst you were in Covent garden today! My Dp was supposed to be in the marathon today but he got a bad chest infection a couple of months ago while affected his training - he's gutted!
millymoo
23-04-2007, 08:39
Don`t you hate breast feeding opinions!!
The WHO states 2 yrs!!
I get really ****ed off with the looks and fidgetyness of people when I do it! I am beginning to enjoy making them uncomfortable now.
I too constantly feel an outsider here and am not sure it will ever change.
DH and I luckily enjoy eachothers company enough to cope with alot of time together,
Peolpe seem to do lots family gatherings here.
h x
Hi everyone, busy in here:wave:
Just to join in the making friends debate!
I think having read through the posts that maybe its just harder to make friends when you are older. I have got some really close friends in the UK which I made in my 20's. You have so many opportunites then to socialise, live together etc and you get to know each other really well.
I havent made any what I would call close friends here in Oz, I meet up regularly with lots of people but am only just starting to make one or two good friends four years down the track. We have our children in common and they have been there during the stress of my mum being diagnosed. Until you have a bit of "history" together its hard to get close.
I did think that maybe it was easier in the UK as people dont tend to have their family nearby and are more open to socialising.
All I can say Pixie is keep trying which I am sure you will. You have to get out there a bit. Maybe do a non baby activity, sport or something at the weekend and try and meet people that way.
Got to love breastfeeding "experts!", I'm with you Millymoo I used to enjoy freaking people out:D
Moops my closest friend in the UK was running the marathon, havent heard yet how she got on, I think she's awesome, two children, working and running marathons:eek: Completely puts me to shame.
LM - I think you've done a fantastic job of making friends here:D
Just looked up my friends marathon time she did it in 3.54 wow!
PunkyDiva
23-04-2007, 09:15
I'm trying hard too with the friend making thing and wish it was as easy as on here.:crying:
We've been at school a whole term now and although I say hello to everyone each morning and afternoon and even invited the mum of my DD's bestie new friend over for coffee, I must be too scary/snobby/grubby??? looking cause no-one has even tried to talk to me. I really feel like an outside even at a BH meet I didn't really feel like I fitted, although they were all really sweet and freindly. There's one today(a nappy sharing and feeling) but DD at preschool and a long drive plus I feel like I'm not worthy of thier friendship, silly I know and guess an insecurity I need to work on.
Oh I lie there's a single Dad with 3 kids and he has a strailor(trailer for kids converts to 3 wheel stroller) on his bike like me so we were talking at the Ride To School Day but that's it. Not even any of the mums in our street have approached me, one I'm :fingerscrossed: she doesn't but the others have kids at same schools. It is sooo hard and I miss my lifelong buddies up north. Have two mums back where we were living and we have coffee occassionally but would be nice to have friends that just drop in or come for a BBQ or a play at the beach again.
I was lucky in Scotland and made a wonderful bunch of friends, cause it was a small rural village, who got me through my culture and climate shock then the suprise pregnancy and will forever be in debt to the love and kindness and support they shared with me.
Oh I'm a sad, old basket case LOL
millymoo
23-04-2007, 09:40
Oh PD...am comin back on later for a natter but Milly giving me no time and seems to have an eye infection. Keep smiling x
I feel much the same. I find it incredibly difficult to make friends, always have done. I'm really shy in real life and often feel like a prime pillock when I say anything at all. My sense of humour is frequently misunderstood - especially in Australia. So yeah, I'm a bit of a Beany no mates at the moment!
I made a few friends in uni but, like Nat, I found that most of the Australians were friends already from school so most of my friends were international students. Who, of course, went home after graduation.
I make a real effort at the bubhub meets. At least there I have a great place to divert my attentions should I run out of conversation.
PunkyDiva
23-04-2007, 10:13
I make a real effort at the bubhub meets. At least there I have a great place to divert my attentions should I run out of conversation.
Maybe that's why I couldn't face today on my own with no diversion.
Beany, I see you(in my head) as this real centre of attention person because you are so educated and knowledgable. Strange isn't it how you can be so wrong about someone.
Although I can have a lot to say:o , in real life I'm more of a listener not really shy, but only forthcoming if I feel it is helpful or contributing although can natter about nothing and everything on the phone to people for hours too.
Maybe it's just another step for me that is really hard to take after still fresh and recent horrid experiences with my mother, taking of the blinkers after all those years,the realisation of what was happening to my kids and family, the guilt, the depression and now I am in fear or maybe have trouble trusting new people not hurt me like that again. I was never like this before. Maybe???
Something to smile about was reading an article on Scotland and they were talking about the "coos". Now it took me hours as a dim witted Aussie barmaid to realise a regular was telling me about his "cows". LOL Lucky the Scots have a wicked sense of humour or I'm sure one would have brained me with a haggis in those early years of having conversation reapeated again and again before it finally dawned what was being said, sometimes not and I would just nod, giggle and pour another dram.
millymoo
23-04-2007, 10:50
Beany and PD..it is really frustrating here to fit in I find. I am pretty outgoing really but have got frustrated here and miss my galpals at home.I worked at a gym when I first came here and met well over 1000 women and felt very different in general. I have stayed in touch with 3 of them two are from the uk and in mid 40`s but there is a connection. One is Aussie and got a one yr old but I see her very little.When we had our first year anniversary here we threw a party and invited about 40 people we felt had been welcoming etc...kind of like our way of saying thankx and hoping we could get together with a few sometime. We probably had 2 invites back out of that and I see little of any of them. perhaps we were too eager. it cost a fortune too. We laid on food and drinks and they all seemed to think we were mad as not BYO.
I can`t put my finger on things here but the whole culture and way of life is different.
Dad gave me some good advise recently that friendships can take years to form and that I shouldn`t try so hard to make friends as alot form naturally without you realising.
BH is great for me here.
H x
Hah! Centre of attention! Nonono, I'm more of a satellite personality. I feel really at home with the August mums group (from here) but they are rather used to me by now having heard my ramblings and nonsense all the way from pregnancy to now. At the bigger meets, I struggle to find something to say. The interests of the majority are so greatly different to mine. There are a few that I really like, though.
I have issues too. Much as I may like people, I am so reluctant to call them "friends". Not because I'm afraid that they will hurt me or anything but more because they might not consider me their friend and I would appear pushy and over-stepping boundaries. It's the reason I don't ask people if they want to come out to play (so to speak) ... they might feel obliged to say yes when they would truthfully rather chew their dog's toenails.
Isn't it funny how Scottish accents are so notorious for being misunderstood? My mother-in-law, born and raised in London, claims to understand it. The thing is, when it's anything other than the watered down accent, she really struggles. I can get it most of the time ... the joys of working in London! There are few accents we don't come across there.
Millymoo - Dad gave me some good advise recently that friendships can take years to form and that I shouldn`t try so hard to make friends as alot form naturally without you realising.
I think thats exactly right and what I was trying to say in a clumsy way! I tend to rush in like an over excited poodle and scare people off. I am just starting to realise that friendships will come but it will take time for them to evolve.
Dare I say it that I have also got fussier in my old age:D I cant be bothered to make friends just for the sake of it, IYKWIM if I dont click with someone then I cant really be bothered to persue a friendship!
PD & Beany - you are both doing better than me, I havent been to a bubhub meet yet! I have already decided from following the Adelaide thread that I probably wouldnt have anything in common with most of the mums! Most of them are about 10 years younger than me:eek:
<<..Gee, sits back, reads what she has posted above and kerchunk!! No wonder I dont have any friends, lol!!>>> :rolleyes:
millymoo
23-04-2007, 11:04
Yes in my 20`s I was really upset if people didn`t seem to like me...now I am like Oh well suit yerself mate...your loss!! I too can be abit feet first and it drives DH nuts X
Yes in my 20`s I was really upset if people didn`t seem to like me...now I am like Oh well suit yerself mate...your loss!! I too can be abit feet first and it drives DH nuts X
Ha, Ha, GRUMPY OLD WOMAN UNITE- (just noticed we are the same age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Manxie: most of the people that I really like on this board are a good few years older than me. I tend to have little in common with other 27 year olds. So it still might be worth a shot going along!
PunkyDiva
23-04-2007, 11:16
Oh are we all beginning to sound like whingy middle aged Poms:eek: can you catch it whilst over there do ya think??:laughing:
How about some loud , she'll be right mates!! to cheer us sad sacks up.
Londonmum
23-04-2007, 11:57
LM I know the website you're talking about ages ago before you moved to Aus and you had just joined this website you gave it to me
:o Oooooppppps there goes another brain cell :laughing:
As to the friendship thing, I find there are levels to friendship. I have lots of casual friends, but very few real close friends. But as some of you said it does take time to develop strong friendships, time and effort.
So Manxie does that mean I'm worth bothering with? cause we've met a couple times already :D
Anyway, got to get the beast up, she's got another snotty nose....oh the joy. Will be back when she's next down for her nap so I can post a bigger/better post :wave:
millymoo
23-04-2007, 13:06
Sorry PD :)...is that better!
LM agree entirely on the levels of friendships
H x
Yes I agree I am starting to like making people feel horrid when I breastfeed :devil6:
I first met Beany when Eliza was 3 months I think she was teeny tiny with a lil baby bump and very quiet and we sat and ate chocolate in a Lindt Cafe in Sydney and we got on really well, well I think we did she could be faking it mind you :p
I tend to cling to people if they were from overseas when I lived in Sydney as they understood what it was like, and had the same troubles I had making friends, my best friend is Canadian we worked together she planned to go back to canada and after a year I asked her when she was going and she said she couldn't leave as she would miss me as she had no friends like me awwww, then one day we had a fight and I told her I was sick of her whinging about her boyfriend and how **** her relationship was and if she wasn't happy then to leave, and if she missed her family so much then to bloody book a flight home. We parted ways and then in the evening I rang her to say sorry and I really did love her lol and she said "I have booked my flight I leave in a month" I was so upset, it's been two years now and we still speak every few days to each other she's coming over sometime later this year to see us, she was about the only close friend I made.
Now from Bubhub I have made some amazing friends who I write to and talk to all the time Beany being one of them. I miss the meet ups a lot as I made some great friends, and we'd all come together!
I am like MM I tend to think OK you don't like fine lol I am not phased by it I may talk about it, but I don't lose sleep over it, and yeah in my teens early 20's I would be still thinking about it a week later lol Manxie I agree I am so fussy about friends it's almost like an exclusive club to be a friend with me, ask Beany she had to do a questionare LOL
I will go back to story time **** em, I know I am a nice person to bad they get to miss out on my great-ness LMAO
Londonmum
23-04-2007, 15:48
Pixie - Thats what friends are all about, the have the honesty to be blunt/truthfull even if they know it will hurt their friend to know......sometimes truth hurts. But I'd prefer someone be blunt and honest and tell it to me straight to my face then make comments behind my back and I'm afraid to say I know people like that and though I've been out with them they will never truely be friends.
I'm like you Pixie if someone can't take the time to get to know me then perhaps they arn't worth the knowing either.
Also you have to be able to trust your friends, trust them with possibly intimate details and be reassured they wont go blabbing them to someone else.....not that I have anything worth blabbing about :laughing:
Age can make a difference.....generally speaking the older the person the more mature in thought/action. Saying that when I was in the UK I met a 19 yr old mum who had her head screwed on tight and mentally was as mature as us old biddys she was hanging with :p I keep in touch with her quite a bit now via MSN and we send each other pics to see how each others DD's are growing and I fully aim to meet up with her next time I'm in the UK.
Over the years I have become quite selective about who I become good friends with, I had loads of girls I thought were my friends just turn tail on me in the past so now like Manxie I take my time. It doesn't mean I'm not that persons 'casual' friend, just that it'll take longer and more time before I'll be 'open' with that person (you know with personal stuff) and become a 'good/close' friend.
It's a shame we all live so far apart, I think we could all get along quite well :D If anyone does come Adelaide way then let me know as I'll be happy to meet up with you.
Wow I sure can waffle huh :ecomcity:
millymoo
23-04-2007, 16:04
So can I:ecomcity: and I warn you am even worse in person!!
This has been a really good chat today and made me feel comforted that whoever we are and where ever we are it isn`t easy!
PunkyDiva
23-04-2007, 16:37
You've all made me smile and realise it's not just me that feels this way about friendships. But anyways off to bed, DD can finish dinner and supervise homework till DH gets home cause as they say I'm knackered physically and mentally today (just one of those days where the world seems to have gone mad YKWIM).
She's saying I was a wee little thing because I couldn't climb onto those high stools properly. I'm a titch. And, in my defence for the ungainly stool antics, I was 7 months pregnant at the time ... tiny baby bump indeed!
No, there was no faking going on. There was a bit of faking at some other times with other people but you and Claire were lubbly-jubbly! And I miss you terribly! I kept wanting to grab you out for lunch or coffee but was afraid of your response, believe it or not ...
I'm a bit of both ways with the people not liking me thing. If they don't like me for me, fair enough - I'm not changing for them. But if I don't know what it is that they dislike, what they objected to, it eats me up inside. Especially so because people often utterly misinterpret things.
PunkyDiva
23-04-2007, 17:14
Now I understand your sense of humour and know you better I really like you Beany.Your DH well we won't go there shall we:o
Sorry for you know what:hugs:
millymoo
23-04-2007, 17:29
Beany just a couple of more years and you will hit the big 30 and I assure you nothing will eat you up like that any more! Well that`s my theory.
I think you sound lovely.
H x
it twas tiny you never saw me lol I was massive (said in Ali G voice)
PD: it's all good :) Honest!
Helen: Aww, shucks *kicks a pebble* :o
It's true, at 7 months up the duff, I just looked like I was really really fat. At 8 months, I was as big as a house. I'll find a pic at some stage. Really. I looked like I needed a crane to get me out of bed ... and felt like it too!
One month before I popped. (http://picasaweb.google.com.au/sabina.rahman/PreggyPreggy/photo?authkey=WHgCfIi0b5E#5056564764139667218)
You didn't have the flab on top, Nat :p I win! Yay!
I so did!!
Here's me sorry a bunch of pics lol
http://www.babiesonline.com/imagegallery/gallery.asp?be=a/autumnsurprise
millymoo
23-04-2007, 19:26
Sorry girls I beat you...check out my profile there is a pic of me about to be induced!
Beany you look tres pretty!!
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So Manxie does that mean I'm worth bothering with? cause we've met a couple times already :D
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Absolutely:D I feel like I've been a bit **** and not made any effort but I guess if the truth be known I've been struggling a bit and just getting through day to day stuff is a bit of a battle:rolleyes:
Ooh love those baby bellies you girls looked absolutely gorgeous. I loved every minute of being pregnant. If I was brave enough and I'm not I would win pants down (ooh what a horrible thought!)
O.k a hypothetical question for you guys - would you go for baby no 2 and (this is your only chance to have no 2) even if it meant not being able to see your family for probably 5 years by which time it may be too late, IYKWIM?? :detective:
Londonmum
23-04-2007, 19:46
Beany - you don't look fat but you do look VERY preggers :laughing:
I kept getting told I had a tidy bump but it sure as hell didn't feel that way to me :p
Oh and no one is short......they are vertically challenged :D
What a neat little tummy you had, Nat!
Mine looked like I swallowed a basketball washed down with a mattress.
Helen: nope - that's just your dress making you look like that. By the way, you look completely different to what I expected ... what with the tales of Northern slapperishness :laughing: You look lovely. Especially for someone about to go into labour!
I didn't actually take a photo in the final month, stupid me. My brain was devoted to the God of Labour, praying for him to bestow his gift. And to the God of Pain Relief, praying for the anesthetist to be not too far ...
Londonmum
23-04-2007, 19:53
Absolutely:D I feel like I've been a bit **** and not made any effort but I guess if the truth be known I've been struggling a bit and just getting through day to day stuff is a bit of a battle:rolleyes:
O.k a hypothetical question for you guys - would you go for baby no 2 and (this is your only chance to have no 2) even if it meant not being able to see your family for probably 5 years by which time it may be too late, IYKWIM?? :detective:
Na hun, your alright. I know what it's like to be busy, we all do and I'm cool with that. Besides I've been a mad woman over the last 2 weeks with a poorly bub and working whilst DH was away in Canberra so it's unlikley you'd have had any sence out of me :laughing:
As for having baby no:2, if this is your one and only chance for bub 2 then go for it even if that means you wont get to see family members for 5 yrs or longer. Your hubby and child/children are your family now, everything/one else is a bonus and they will understand even if they don't say as much to start with.
Londonmum: my preggy look kicked in in July when I was 8 months gone. Thoughout June I just looked fat - I really did. I remember going to my supervisor at uni and asking for an extension due to pregnancy related woes ... his mouth dropped open and he said he didn't even know I was pregnant!
My boy was sort of wrapped around me until the last month or so when he had a growth spurt and started to grow out front.
Um yes I would have baby #2 as long as it was a promise I wouldn't see at least my mother for 5 years :D
GTG some kid called Eliza wants me
Londonmum
23-04-2007, 20:03
All those pics are great, I have some of me with my lump but most of them are not for public viewing ;) :p
Beany - OMG !! He didn't realise you were pregnant, now that must have bitten big time.
If I really really wanted number 2 and wasn't doing it just because it was "now or never", then yes. 5 years with a little baby will pass in a flash. Well, 8 months certainly did!
But I know I missed my mum and sister (funnily enough ... ) and my best friend horribly while I was pregnant and in the first few months of motherhood ... What a hard decision!
I'm not planning on number 2 for 5 years.
Um yes I would have baby #2 as long as it was a promise I wouldn't see at least my mother for 5 years :D
GTG some kid called Eliza wants me
PMSL!!! Unfortunately I'm a real mummy's girl and the thought of not seeing her or my dad again really blows my mind:eek: Oops have I blown my hypothetical cover! LOL!
Gotta go, looking after the neighbours dog and time to take him out on his dark, spooky walk!
LM- Hope DD is feeling better, it sucks when they are sick, I remember when it seemed like I was down the drs every week with something or other, luckily she seems to have got a bit of immunity these days.
Night night, hope the bed bugs dont bite, if they do, get a shoe and crack their little heads in two! - direct quote from my mum, what was she thinking!!!!!!!
Beany - OMG !! He didn't realise you were pregnant, now that must have bitten big time.
Yeah, that was a bit embarrassing. And pout-worthy!
Could have been worse though - imagine if he hadn't believed me after I told him :eek: :o
Night night, hope the bed bugs dont bite, if they do, get a shoe and crack their little heads in two!
:laughing: Love it!
PunkyDiva
24-04-2007, 07:56
I would love to share some piccies of moi and my clan but nervous about whole open to anyone thing. By the way you are all so beautiful and glamorous looking even whilst pregnant. They were some huuugggee bumps ladies.
Do you know if I can do a profile with photos that can only be accessed by friends on here or maybe MySpace(my DD set me up a page and keeps pestering me to put stuff in it)??
Do you crop your photos??
I can sorta do basic stuff .
Hope all having a great day, I've awoken refreshed and determined today will be an active and positive one to wash away remnants of yesterday.:thumbsup:
:laughing: I didn't end up getting to bed early as DS13 reminded me he needed a Indonesian House for today so we put our heads together and pretty proud of what we made, lotsa mess in my study/art room but just close the door as that's why it's a seperate room:thumbsup: DS12 & DD7 also got crafty making an ANZAC display so was a pretty chill evening all round.
DH took care of all the mundane stuff so I could just go to my bed when we'd finished, bless him, he is just worth gold my man!! balding spot, big belly and all.Valentine
millymoo
24-04-2007, 09:09
Hi PD ...not sure about that one with the pics. Everyone been chatting last night!!
I try not to come on too late as DH gets his head up his **** at my new found obsession.
Difficult decision Manxie. Not sure whether to go for no 2 myself or no 4 really in my case.
Beany i must be hiding the slapper with my mummy phase!!:laughing:
Hello LM and Pixie!:wave:
Punky: just put up the link here and take it down tomorrow :thumbsup:
millymoo
24-04-2007, 13:42
go pd!!:smiliedance:
What's going on in here then?? Im a pom....Can I join in???:D
I pwomise i'll be noice.:D
PD, c'mon, Iv always wanted to know what you look like!!:yes:
millymoo
24-04-2007, 14:15
Yes yes...more the merrier where have you been !
Well you know what I look lioke :D
Hi Natasha:wave: where abouts in the UK are you from?
Millymoo - wow four, I'm having enough trouble convincing DH to go for no 2:rolleyes:
PD- I like to remain anon - never know whose poking around these things, just my luck the inlaws will find me:eek:
Londonmum
24-04-2007, 20:16
Hi there Nash :wave: Or do you prefer Natasha?
As MM said the more the merrier.
Are you still in the UK or over the sunny side of the world? :D
How has everyone else been today? I went and met up with another new mum today who I got chatting to through this forum, she seemed very nice so likely we'll meet up again.
Talking of meet ups, really should get my A into G and drop you an email Manxie.
Gee I'm exhausted.
Its days like these, after nights like those, that I wish my mum was nearby. Dump the kid and run for the hills! Alas, there's only my mother-in-law :eek:
Londonmum
24-04-2007, 21:44
Gee I'm exhausted.
Its days like these, after nights like those, that I wish my mum was nearby. Dump the kid and run for the hills! Alas, there's only my mother-in-law :eek:
:laughing: I don't even have the MIL, she's in NZ. But as for your day :hugs:
Thank you :)
Ah my mother-in-law ain't too bad. For a complete nutter ... :laughing:
What's with these kids, honestly? I mean surely they are meant to be all good, and well behaved and allow us to sleep and things ... otherwise wouldn't the cave women have just thought "bugger this for a game of soldiers" and tossed them to the nearest saber-toothed tiger?
millymoo
25-04-2007, 08:09
Luckily i don`t have one anywhere near or likely to visit but then the downside is no one to leave her with!!
My ex MIL was enough to put me off for life:eek:
H x
Londonmum
25-04-2007, 10:16
What's with these kids, honestly? I mean surely they are meant to be all good, and well behaved and allow us to sleep and things ... otherwise wouldn't the cave women have just thought "bugger this for a game of soldiers" and tossed them to the nearest saber-toothed tiger?
:laughing: Now thats funny and i've wondered as much myself.
But last night it wasn't my DD who kept me up but one of our neighbours who decided to do some kind of digging (using mechanical equipment) till past 3am and then DH snoring :banghead: So I didn't get any sleep till just before 5am and that was with ear plugs in.
As for MIL's, mines great, a very scary woman of less then 5 ft and looks like a basketball red hair an'all :p But no seriously she is lovely to chat to but she doesn't do the whole grandkids thing, 'Children should be seen and not heard, preferably not seen and not heard' :laughing: So I couldn't leave her with DD even if I wanted to.
:eek: Look at Ashers hair!!!
ok time for me to update my avatar too lol
millymoo
26-04-2007, 08:04
LM amd Pixie, love the new avatars!
Thay are growing so fast as is Milly.....want time to stop!
Had a good day yesterday at friends DD first Bday. Few wines and too many beers for DH. We left early as the party was going on for yhe night and I could see DH getting to his falling asleep stage....doesn`t take much at all and then I can`t move him ! Luckily we got home and he was out cold by 7pm!
Hope you all had a godd one
H x
Is it strange that I'm a little resentful about not being able to go to a bubhub meet ... at Hooters? :laughing:
I've never been to anything like that before but, like I said to the girls that invited me, my hooters (honkers? :D ) will be needed elsewhere. Still breastfeeding, can't leave the baby at home, can't take him with me or he'll look at the waitresses and assume its a buffet. They'll be taking orders and look up to find an 8-month-old attached and suckling.
In other news, the teething is doing my nut. He was awake until past 2am last night. Went to sleep and woke every two hours after that until 8:30am when he decided this sleeping business was for wimps. He stood up in his cot, got so excited to see us that he jumped around a bit ... and bashed his lip.
Great start to the day! :no: Silly boy!
millymoo
26-04-2007, 09:39
:wave:
Another lovely new avatar Beany!! He is very cute!!Sorry to hear you had a **** night ...had many myself and no teeth yet:eek:
What is this of a meet at Hooters..are you joking?
Those places are opening all over the place!
My hooters too have only one purpose at the moment!:laughing:
H x
Londonmum
26-04-2007, 10:22
I think all the avatars look great :thumbsup:
Is it strange that I'm a little resentful about not being able to go to a bubhub meet ... at Hooters?
I've never been to anything like that before but, like I said to the girls that invited me, my hooters (honkers? ) will be needed elsewhere. Still breastfeeding, can't leave the baby at home, can't take him with me or he'll look at the waitresses and assume its a buffet. They'll be taking orders and look up to find an 8-month-old attached and suckling.
In other news, the teething is doing my nut. He was awake until past 2am last night. Went to sleep and woke every two hours after that until 8:30am when he decided this sleeping business was for wimps. He stood up in his cot, got so excited to see us that he jumped around a bit ... and bashed his lip.
Great start to the day! Silly boy!
No it's not strange that you feel that way, you know your going to miss out on something good and I'd feel the same way.
As for your breast feeding comment :laughing: what a laugh.
But serious can you not express? will he take the bottle if you expressed milk ?
As for the teething bubs :hugs: Do you have any gel or granuals to help with the teething?
millymoo
26-04-2007, 11:15
Can`t be left out on all the new avatars!
Is it strange that I'm a little resentful about not being able to go to a bubhub meet ... at Hooters?
I've never been to anything like that before but, like I said to the girls that invited me, my hooters (honkers? will be needed elsewhere. Still breastfeeding, can't leave the baby at home, can't take him with me or he'll look at the waitresses and assume its a buffet. They'll be taking orders and look up to find an 8-month-old attached and suckling.
PMSL!!:laughing: My hooters have headed way way south, dont think I want to be going somewhere to look at waitresses perky hooters:rolleyes: Excuse my ignorance but do they have male waiters at this places, with anything interesting to look at:detective:
O.k. back to respectful babytalk, teething what a nightmare, I am dreading DD getting her 2 year old molars. What is it with these babys my dd decided it was time to start her day at 4.15am the other morning:eek: There was no way she was going back to sleep, grrrrr.
Its pouring with rain here, gotta love it, I can hear our rainwater tank filling.
Hehe! Not joking - there's a meet planned in a fortnight in Parramatta. And Manxie, that's so cute: men at Hooters! :laughing: Perhaps they should open a place like that up and call it "Trunks".
Aren't new avatars fun!
LM: I could express but as it will be at the end of the day and nearing bedtime for the boy, he'll probably just scream the house down if I wasn't there. I'm still a little bit wary of leaving him ... That umbilical cord is going strong :D
Teething ... :banghead: I have Bonjela which seems to help during the day but nothing stops the night waking. Except the hooters!
millymoo
26-04-2007, 12:45
A picture for Pixie ....bet its warmer over there!You aint missing much sun!!
Had to wrap milly in Dads jumper at Anzac Day party!
Beany..ditto..am yet to leave milly! No way will she take a bottle:banghead:. Given up expressing and trying now.
millymoo
26-04-2007, 12:46
Duh forgot piccie
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s2/helenchand_photos/anzacday010.jpg
Awwwwww! Milly looks adorable!
It was pretty cold yesterday, wasn't it?! I actually put a jumper (yes, JUMPER! Not SWEATER! :p ) on Asher. I thought we were a few months off that yet.
millymoo
26-04-2007, 13:01
Do they say sweater here??
Rug up is a new saying...quite a good one really!!
I like getting cosy. By the end of winter I am desperate for sun , but after summer i am in need of cooler weather if that makes sense.
Still can`t get over the hooters thing. Is it anight out for couples?
Apparently it's a great family restaurant. The girls just wear tight, lowish cut tops and shorts. They don't dance or anything like that. One of the Sydney girls actually asked her husband t go there for their 3rd anniversary :laughing:
Apparently the chicken wings are to die for ... ironic really. I would have thought it would be notable for it's breast fillets.
Londonmum
26-04-2007, 13:19
PMSL!! My hooters have headed way way south, dont think I want to be going somewhere to look at waitresses perky hooters.
O.k. back to respectful babytalk, teething what a nightmare, I am dreading DD getting her 2 year old molars. What is it with these babys my dd decided it was time to start her day at 4.15am the other morning. There was no way she was going back to sleep, grrrrr.
Its pouring with rain here, gotta love it, I can hear our rainwater tank filling.
Hay at least you have some to go down south, I'm still looking for mine :laughing:
DD is teething her molers already, got at least 2 pre molers out that I can see but I'm sure theres more going on in there that she wont let us see, cause when DH brushed her teeth at the back yesterday there was a little bleeding so maybe a breakthrough there too.
LM: I could express but as it will be at the end of the day and nearing bedtime for the boy, he'll probably just scream the house down if I wasn't there. I'm still a little bit wary of leaving him ... That umbilical cord is going strong
Teething ... I have Bonjela which seems to help during the day but nothing stops the night waking. Except the hooters!
I first left DD at 4 weeks old with one of our very good friends (who is an ex ITU nurse) so I felt quite confident leaving DD in her care for a couoke hours but the urge was still there to call and check everything was ok :D
Teething, yeh it's never ending huh.....can I suggest a Mallet ? :p
No but seriously, how about some herbal granuals? I know a lot of mums who swear by them. Or I get a teething gels from the local Womans and childrens hosp here, that seems to work really well.
A picture for Pixie ....bet its warmer over there!You aint missing much sun!!
Had to wrap milly in Dads jumper at Anzac Day party!
How cute is that pic :D
Londonmum
26-04-2007, 13:20
Apparently the chicken wings are to die for ... ironic really. I would have thought it would be notable for it's breast fillets.
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Gawd I couldn't go to hooters I'd get to jealous lol
Also the tack appeal is far to high for me!
H that picture is so, cute her eyes are so beautiful!
Jumper/sweater? HUH I have always, always called it a jumper, in Canada a jumper is like a pinafore/dress that little girls wear.
Well I am off to look at an apartment today in Regents park. Just to get an idea the woman is selling it so no way would I move in, then the new owners want to live in it, meaning we'd have to move again!
It's raining here they said rain all week it hasn't but today as I'm going out it is :rolleyes:
Last night I think if you had given me adoption papers I would signed them, I got so sick of not going to the toilet on my own, having her hang off me, her not napping and breastfeeding being sheer pain, and over tired. DP was so helpful and said "maybe you need to see a DR" to which I responded with "no I need a fcuking day off and more support your w@nker"
ahh that feels better :D
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