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Cats&Kid

01-04-2007, 09:59 PM

Squiggles

01-04-2007, 10:22 PM

:wave: Hiya ladies... Im back! Sorry to be MIA for so long - and thanks for thinking of me, its nice to know I was missed!! :hugs:

Please excuse my not replying to anyone - I have logged on and had over a weeks worth of posts to read and pics to look at and OMG - geez there has been a lot going on!!

I've been attempting to rest - I had a bit of trouble with my tear. Went back to my OB last Monday and it wasn't healing as well as it all could be - so I had a procedure to remove some tissue from down there - OUCH OUCH OUCH. All good now though, well as good as it can be.

Not too much to report from here. Connor still only manages stretches of 4 hours max sleep during the night and during the day is like a baby on speed - he has no concept of rest at all!!

DH has been up to his usual antics of talking rubbish. His latest is that he wants to take a photo of Connor in our veggie patch - our very own cabbage patch kid :rolleyes:

I will try to keep up with everyone this week - ciao for now... off to bed before the little man requests his bottle.

icugal

01-04-2007, 10:52 PM

Ok... a bit of catchup.

Hels - Look forward to meeting up at Albert Park when it's organised. I'll have some access to the internet while we're in the UK (depends on which relative we're staying with at the time), so message me anytime.

Roopee - Thanks for the link... it looks like it a great resource. I'm thinking it will come in handy :)

Nina - I hope Ryans feeding issues resolve for you soon... I'm sorry I don't have any advice for you. Might be time to call the professionals.

re: contraceptive - Ours is simply not having sex. I think DF has lost his libido. Hope this changes soon, because I'm sick to death of finding nudie girl pics on his computer.. yet he can't even give me the time of day. Sorry, now I'm venting... :banghead:

re: christening - My parents are pentecostals (born again christians), so my mother wants to have a 'dedication' ceremony for Kaelan in Wodonga on May 13th (which is apparently mothers day). Whilst I don't actively go to church, I'm happy if she wants to do this. I'm not entirely sure what the dedication involves though... I might have to get some more information.

mumslilspunk - Thanks for your best wishes for our holiday. I'm excited about going but also a little nervous because I'm not a big fan of flying (well, the flying is ok... it's the crashing I don't like). In a way, I'll be glad when it's all over and we're back home sleeping in our own beds again.

Yay for you hitting 1000 posts btw !!

EskimoMumma - Wow... two months old and in 00 already !! What are you feeding that girl of yours?? ;) Kaelan was two months on Friday and 000 still swim on him !!

Cats&kid - Sorry to hear about your feeding issues. I don't have a lot of experience with breastfeeding.... but my only advice to you is to not feel guilty if you were to go to formula, and moreso ignore the media/nurses. You have to do what is right for YOU (whether that be BF or FF)... because if you don't, you will eventually crash and burn, and nobody will benefit from that.

Me - Well, my mother has left again after visiting us yet again for the weekend. She was a little better with Kaelan this time because I set some strict groundrules in relation to feeding/settling him etc., so he is still in his routine !!

Interestingly enough, my real father and step-mother came over to lunch today (I've not had much contact with my father over the years) so it's the first time that my mother and father have been in the same room for many, many years (luckily they get along)... it's probably one of the only time that Kaelan will have his two maternal grandparents with him at the same time.

Upon leaving to go back to Wodonga, my mother took my two dogs with her as she is going to look after them while I'm overseas... my house seems so quiet and empty now without them here. I miss them so much already !!

And finally, Kaelan has been SO good of late. He is pretty much self-settling when I put him in his cot now. I think a great deal of this success is me finally being able to recognise K's tired signs... and putting him to bed at the right moment. After 8 weeks of having the little tyke in our lives, I'm really feeling like I can pick his various cries, know when he needs to play and when he needs to sleep.

For the last two nights, he has slept in seven hour stretches !! I know that all my hard work will be ruined once we go to England.. not looking forward to trying to get him back into a routine again.

icugal

01-04-2007, 10:56 PM

Squiggles - Good to have you back darl !! I sincerely hope that the procedure you had helps you recover quickly from your tear.

Your DH sounds like me... you guys haven't seen the 'easter bunny' photos I took of Kaelan yet... poor little bugger !! ;)

(I'm also the person who would dress up my dogs and take photos :D )

Merlion

02-04-2007, 12:41 AM

Well I'm here. I was bit MIA for awhile in Feb. My big boy is 6 weeks old and he's ever growing. He's outgrown the Newborn Huggies Nappies as he's now 5.2kgs. He still fits into 000 clothes but is slowly getting to big for them. Will catch up tomorrow.

LMenz

02-04-2007, 08:45 AM

Morning Everyone

Hope everyone had a good weekend....... we caught up with my bestie and her hubby which is always fun. Yesterday my PIL's came to see Jack. He was a bit grumpy and cried when my MIL held him and he wouldn't smile at her :laughing: I was secretly cheering on the inside.... She kept trying to put me down about my mothering but I know I'm doing a good job with Jack and that's all that matters

SuperFrog - I love the pic.......We are huge Gunners fans. My DH thought it was so cute....you may have given him an idea

Hels - I wish I could have gone to the Flower and Garden Show. I used to work in horticulture but I would never have been able to walk around that much....my pelvic floor still hurts a bit. Sounds like it would have been a great day

Nina - Jack does the same thing....I think it's lower wind. He screams and then I will hear a huge fart. Jack gulps a lot when feeding and I think it's a huge part of the problem. Maybe have reflux checked out though if it's in the family. I hope it gets better....it can make feeding time quiet distressing

Harleyq - Have you tried Coen on any Infacol or Infant's Friend? Wind wakes Jack up too.....I found the Infant's Friend really helpful.

Penny - That's so fantastic the K is sleeping for so long and settling really well. RE: Dressing your dogs up...have you ever had their picture taken with Santa? I almost did this last year with my doggie Henry. There's a pet shop in Albert park that does it.... I'm pretty sure they have the Easter bunny too. I think it's really cute :)

Cats&Kids - I haven't started my Mother's group yet either....One started when Jack was just born and I thought it was a bit soon. I think a new one will start in a few weeks. :hugs: with the feeding issues. Mastitis sounds terrible... I hope it gets better soon. If you really want to continue B/F maybe see a lactation consultant for some tips. I found this really helped me overcome most of my feeding issues. Jack and I are only now just starting to get the hang of it at nearly 7 weeks. Your doing a great job especially with you DP being sick. Hang in there

Squiggles - Great to have you back.....hope you're feeling better soon

RE: Christenings - Were having a big birth celebration party for Jack in May. DH and I aren't religious at all so Jack won't get christened. DH told his mum yesterday that we wouldn't be having one and she nearly cried, not sure why though as she's not religious either.... she just thinks all babies should be christenend

Better have a shower while Jack's asleep (finally)....be back later :wave:

harleyq

02-04-2007, 08:50 AM

Welcome back Cats&kid, Squiggles & Allycat
Cats&Kid - I haven't had my mothers group meeting yet - nor any sign of it happening -- and Coen is 5 weeks today! On BF'ing - l can kinda understand what your goinget through - and as hard as it is you have to ultimately do what is right for you - there are so many mothers in this group who have been through a similar situation to you - and many of them have decided to go with what was going to make them a happier mummy... as you said you were FF and you've turned out alright - and you have given BF'ing a good go - 6 weeks is a very good start in life...one of the other mums bought some FF and kept it in her pantry when she was going through a hard time (don't know if she used it) but it was there as a backup should it all get too much for her -- it sounded like that helped her heaps... :hugs:

Squiggles - sorry to hear about your tear... is it all going well now?

icugal - Congrats on the 7 hour sleeps - wow l must admit l am a little jealous... Coen has been having a 4-5 hour sleep beginning at 8.30 but then this strange phenomena where he is up every hour with what l think is the inability to do a no. 2... so l was up at 3, 4, 6, 7 and then l put him to bed with me and we got 2 hours sleep together btw 7-9 -- thank God!!!

Enjoy your trip and forget about the flying bit!!! You will arrive safely and have a wonderful time with DH relatives and checking out the UK!!! Once again l am envious (not of that long flight though - but at least you are breaking it up with a stopover)

bAaM

02-04-2007, 09:09 AM

Nina79

02-04-2007, 09:14 AM

Morning,

A super quickie before we head out for the day...

Thanks girls for your support on the 'manic moments'. We had a better day yesterday and tried to stretch out Ryan's feeds to between 2-3 hrs, especially before bed when he's at his most 'snacky' (although his crying was nearly too much to bear at one point last night :crying:).

As a result of the new feeding regime (or the crying?!) he slept 5 hours from 10pm, 3 more, then another 3 til 9am this morning! :yelclap: PLUS, his in-between feeds only lasted 30-40 mins including winding and re-settling.

We are off to New Farm Park with a friend to celebrate a great night's sleep.

I'm sorry to those who had a rotten sleep (could be us again tonight) - I hope you have a smoother day today and it's your turn for 5 hours tonight!

Be back later for more goss...:p
Nina

BTW - Mrs P, are you in for a Brisbane meet?

shelby

02-04-2007, 09:59 AM

Hi all,

Been MIA for March - it's all a bit of a blur. Can't believe it's already April!

Haven't had a chance to catch up completely on the March thread yet, but it sounds as if you had a great get together Melbourne ladies - loved the photos.

Shelba & Scuba: I'd love to catch up, but wednesdays don't suit me - appointments etc. I'm in the centre of the city and don't have a car but I'm happy to try and meet where I can get public transport to.

Question regarding mothers groups: I haven't been able to get to mine yet, but I can only go until Matthew is 8 weeks old is this normal?

Me - sorry for the winge but I've had a bit of a b..... of a month. In short, I've mastitis yet again, my supply has dropped off so I'm mixing with FF and I'm still expressing as I haven't managed to get him on properly yet :banghead: It's just so difficult, I'm still trying as I know I'll become really depressed if I have to stop (don't know if this is a touch of PND or just being over tired). I know it sounds stupid but I'll feel as if I've failed him if I have to stop, I have nothing against FF as I was FF myself and it would make my life so much easier, but DP has made such a deal of BF and all the media/nurses are so pushy. To add to matters we spent last Sunday 4am onwards in emergency with DP with gall stones - not fun especially with a 4 week old in a carrier for over 4 hours. Still have this to resolve in the near future. Everything else is just the usual that everyone has been coping admirably with: fatigue, lack of sleep, unsettled baby and lack of support from DP. Just feel like I'm coming apart at the seams at the moment :gloomy: so sorry for the grumble, but I just needed to tell someone.

I'm really impressed with everyone - you're all coping so well - it's far from easy.

Ladies hope you have a wonderful weekend.
Hugs & kisses to all of you and your beautiful bubs xxx

catsnkids - good to hear from you. Im so sorry you are having such a horrible time and everything you said sounds EXACTLY how I felt about 2-3 weeks ago re: BFing and still do on the odd day sometimes. I too had mastitis and attachment problems and incredibly sore nipples and thrush and I was crying every feed and every day as I so badly wanted to continue BF but didnt know how I was going to cope. I felt like I was completely falling apart and like I had PND. I didnt want to stop BF as I felt like it would make me a failure. I ended up deciding to see a lactation consultant and that if things didnt start to improve I would call it quits, knowing I had done everything possible. I reckon hon that if you have tried for this long, get some help, call the ABA or your family health centre or hire a lactation consultant and at least that way you can try to ease your guilt knowing that you tried everyuthing possible and it just didnt work.

Things are getting better for me slowly with BFing so I hope that gives you some hope that it may improve but please please please dont beat yourself up if it doesnt work.

Nina - my bub is doing exactly the same thing and I ended up shouting at her last night to stop hurting my nipples as they are getting excruciatingly painful with all the pulling and chomping and crying. I thought it might be wind but it doesnt seem to be getting better after a burp and infants frined doesnt make a difference. I put a call into my family health centre as it is happening every feed and is so upsetting and b!oody painful!! Olivia does have thrush and apparently that can sometimes cause that behaviour...... How often does your little man feed? Olivia is feeding every 1-2 hours during the day so I might try to space it out to 3 and see if that makes a difference.

Re: christening - DF and I arent religious so arent going to do a christening but have decided to do a "welcome to the world" bbq in a few months time....we are also tossing up the idea of making it our surprise wedding as well.....if we can get organised! We were going to get married last year but then I fell preggers so decided to out it off til after.

Sorry no other personals bubs is screaming GTG!!!

have a good one everyone

icugal

02-04-2007, 10:01 AM

Hi guys,
Just letting you no that i havent been around for a while cause marissa is in hospital and we are still unsure what is wrong but it is some sort of infection and they are worried about her kidneys.
They have jabed her with that many needles and they are doing a lumber puncture when i get back:crying: . I hope you are all doing well and i miss you guys but as soon as i no something i will let you no.
Take care xx
Alicia

Alicia,

:hugs: to you and Marissa. I hope that they can find out what is wrong and that she gets better soon. Please keep us updated with her progress when you get the chance... you are both in my thoughts :)

cate

02-04-2007, 12:25 PM

Hi there Feb Mummies!

Just thought I would drop over here for a quick invite to all Brisbane mummies - we are trying to organise a get together this Weds We'd love to see any Feb mummies!

Hope you are all going well!

Hels*Bels

02-04-2007, 12:25 PM

Squiggles - Welcome back and I know how you feel after the corrective surgery as I had the same thing done 2 weeks ago, including removal of an abcess down there. I am still sore but getting better gradually. I hope you are feeling better soon aswell.

Cats&Kids - I joined a mother's group when R was 5 weeks old but I only went for one week and then couldn't go again for a while. So I am starting another one after Easter and R will be 11 weeks old. He will most likely be the oldest bub there but that doesn't worry me. The age gaps seem like nothing when they are a bit older anyway.

Well R is asleep in his pusher again :smiliedance: I fed him this morning, then gave him a shower in his bath seat. Then I put him into his pusher and wheeled him around the house with me whilst I sorted out the washing and did other jobs. He was happy to lay there gurgling and watching me. When he got sleepy I walked around the family room with him until he dropped off to sleep. Which then left me free to have my shower and jump on here. I will try to do this every day as a routine now. This arvo we are going for a walk down to the shops. I find that he sleeps better at night if we go out in the fresh air for a while. Last night he had a feed at 10.30pm and I didn't hear from him again until 5.45am.
And the last 3 feeds he has had were 180mls :eek: what a guts!!

Roopee

02-04-2007, 12:54 PM

Alicia!! OmG you must be so so worried! Im crossing everything for you that its nothing serious and that they find out what it is quickly! Please make sure you keep us updated as much as you can. Oh i really feel for you right now.

Squiggles- welcome back. Sounds like you have had a rough trott- i hope it all clears up for you soon!!

CatsnKids- welcome back to you too.

mothers groups- i went to one when DS1 was little as i was in a strange place and didnt know anyone and thought it would be good for us. Well what a horror- i got pretty much ignored and felt pretty cr@p as they were all b/f with considerable ease and when i whipped out a bottle- well the looks i got were pretty terrible. Enough to scare this normally strong and opinionated:rolleyes: woman out the door-never to return. That being said though, i did while i was there for the hour meet my now best friend so it wasnt all bad. I not saying it to scare you off but sometimes they can be not so nice experiences. When you ladies go- go without any expectations so your not too dissapointed if it doesnt work out. Hope that makes sense.

us Cody is now officially sleeping thru. She has her last bottle at 9.30 pm and then wakes at 6am. She's done this for almost a week so im confident enough to say she's sleeping thru. NOW that i've said that- i'll be up all night tonight:rolleyes:
I get to meet My_Lot tomorrow:smiliedance:. I'll try to post some pics after our little meet.

Im also going to be awa for most of the school holidays. We are planning to spend it at the beach (Nelson Bay and the South West Rocks)-both are litle seaside villages). I'Ls have a cabin thing at Nelson Bay which they keep there all year so we dont have to pay for our accomodation there-woohoo- and my MUM has a holiday unit at SWR so we dont have to pay there either. If he had to pay for accom for 6 for 2.5 weeks there no way we would be going.

I hope you all have a great day:wave:

icugal

02-04-2007, 01:49 PM

re: mothers group.

I've been to mine twice now and I love it. The MCHN that runs it is very friendly and is non-judgmental in respects to everything, so we all feel very welcomed and supported in our decisions.

There are six girls in my group and our babies range in age from 1-4 months. Actually one of the girls in my group is almost a celebrity in that when her and her brother were born, they were the first twins born via IVF in Australia. She was recently in the Herald Sun telling the story not only of her own birth, but that of her baby daughter (who is about 2 weeks older than K).

My mothers group only runs for eight weeks and I'm going to miss out on two weeks over the Easter break which I'm a little disappointed about.

Oh well, if all else fails... I have my more favourite mothers group around too... you Bubhub girls !! :D

mumslilspunks

02-04-2007, 02:09 PM

icugal

02-04-2007, 02:40 PM

mumslilspunk - I have an electric bottle warmer which I use for Kaelan's bottles... however, if its taking too long or if K is screaming the house down, then I'll use the microwave to quickly warm it.

If Kaelan has only has a portion of his bottle, I put it back in the bottle warmer to maintain it's current temperature. If he doesn't go back to that bottle within say 20 minutes, then I'll discard it. As a rule, I generally don't reheat bottles twice... however, if the water was already warm when I first made up the bottle (ie the kettle hasn't long been boiled), then I may reheat it again if I have to because technically it wasn't reheated the first time... iykwim?

What I do is probably wrong, wrong, wrong... but I haven't given him food poisoning yet !! ;)

LMenz

02-04-2007, 03:31 PM

Leashie - I hope Marissa is feeling better soon :hugs: I'm thinking of you and your family

Very quiet on here today...... :yes:

Jack's in his cot being very quiet but not sleeping. I'm hoping he will nod off. He's such a little monkey today only catnapping on and off for about 40 minutes at a time.

I can hear some rather loud farts coming from his room :laughing: Gee I must be bored!!!!

MrsP

02-04-2007, 03:32 PM

Would love to Nina!! Having a horribly busy time up to end of school holidays (which is only next week here in Qld), but after that would be great to meet up with you :thumbsup:

cate

02-04-2007, 04:20 PM

OK Brisbane mummies the meet is on - Weds 4th April Hope you can make it!

Hels*Bels

02-04-2007, 04:44 PM

mumslilspunk - When making formula I heat just the water in the microwave and then add the powder, I find it mixes better this way. I never have the problem of the milk going cold because R skulls all his feeds lol. But you're not supposed to re-heat the milk twice in the microwave, but it's ok to reheat in a bottle warmer or jug of hot water. It's also supposed to be consumed within 30 mins of mixing.

I walked down to the shops earlier and as I was going through the checkout in Coles the checkout girl was commenting on what a cute baby he is etc. Just as she was cooing over him he did a huge projectile spew! :eek: It went all over my shopping, his blanket and the pram. I was so embarrassed. The look on R's face was sheer horror and it even came out of his nose, poor thing. I took him to the toilets and cleaned him up before we headed home, then he went to sleep straight after. I think I should cut his feeds back to 150mls now as 180mls must be too much and he skulled the last bottle in about 10 mins flat!!

My DH is home now so I am going to go and make a rich beef casserole for dinner whilst R is asleep, yummy :D

icugal

02-04-2007, 06:31 PM

Hels - Reece IS a gorgeous baby !! And I still think that he has the cutest little cry.

It's funny, I've shown some friends and family the Melbourne meet-up photos... and so many reckon that Reece and Kaelan could be fraternal twins !! They must have some similarities !! :)

I still can't believe how empty my house feels without my two little dogs constantly following me around all day... It's so strange. I keep looking at my closed laundry door, thinking that I must open it so that my dogs can get to their water... and then I remember that they're being completely spoiled at my mothers house, 300kms away. I miss my babies !!

Speaking of babies, a certain someone has decided to wake up yet again... he's having one of his unsettled days today. Better go :)

SuperFrog

02-04-2007, 09:28 PM

Leashie - My thoughts are with you and Marissa. Please keep us up to date.

Well it took a good 8 weeks, with lots of ups and downs, but I think i can safely say that I think I have breastfeeding "in the bag" Yay! :smiliedance: For the last week or so Liam and I just seem to have clicked and it works soooo much easier than it used to. I can now get him attached first time without any pain or discomfort. And I no longer have sore boobs or nipples afterwards either. I was actually so comfortable the other day that I fell asleep while feeding him! Before I knew anything about breastfeeding, this is how I imagined it would be.

It doesn't bother me if people choose to formula feed, because there are MANY reasons to do so, but I just thought I would let people know that breastfeeding can work out well. All of a sudden it just seemed easier and I'm no longer so stressed out. It was me that had the tin of formula in the pantry but I've never had to use it. Will definitely still keep it there though, just in case things go pear-shaped all of a sudden.

I can actually see myself breastfeeding until he is at least 6-months old now. At one point my aim was to make it to the end of February... so this is a big achievement! Not sure how I'll feel about it when he starts teething though.

Expressing milk on the other hand is a different story. I can use a pump for half an hour and only get 30ml out of both sides in total. I've tried electric and manual pumps, and swapping sides after 5 minutes, but it is just soooo slow! Ironically the fastest way for me is hand expressing, which i would have thought was the hardest method. I've organised a night out at the comedy festival in two-week's time, so I'm going to have to stockpile some for Liam's first night of being babysat. (Is babysat even a proper word??) Haven't tried expressing for a few weeks, but maybe now that my milk supply has obviously settled perhaps it will be easier.

My next goal is to feel comfortable feeding him in public. I'm okay at people's houses, or with other mothers, but I'm not sure how I feel about "whipping out the puppies" at the local park for example. I'm sure that no one else cares that much, I just have to get used to the idea that my boobs no longer require such modesty. Weird.

Liam now seems to feed 5 times a day, every 3-4 hours during the day and a long overnight sleep of 7-10 hours (usually). I've stopped checking he is still breathing so many times during the night now and am slowly learning to relax and enjoy the sleep.

Speaking of sleep, I should be in bed. I hope I have managed to inspire people rather than rub it in your faces that we are doing well. I find it useful to hear positive experiences from people when I'm having a hard time as it motivates me to hang in there.

Night all! :sleeping:

Roopee

03-04-2007, 06:01 AM

Just a quick one today ladies,
Alicia- Thats just terible you poor thing. I too have everything crossed for her speedy recovery!!

Those of you who are bottle feeding, this may sound like a stupid question but with re heating the bottles how do you guys do it? I know EBM can only be heated in boiled water but ive been microwaving his ff. And with reheating the formula can you re heat it more than once?
Its just that quite often Billy only gets through half and then when i change him etc etc by the time we come back to feedm the bottles cold. And if he only had a bit out of a bottle before he falls asleep can i re frigerate it again?
Thanks

Re the bottles. I heat the water the in microwave then add the powder. They say that you should re heat after the baby has fed from the bottle as bacteria can grow. I have always just put it in a cup of hot water while the kids are fiddling around in the middle of their feeds so that it doesnt get cold. Oh and they also say that once the baby has finished his feed then not to re fridgerate and refuse- discard it. Oh and doesnt this frustrate you! Feels like you use twice as much formula as you need!!!:banghead: Next tim you see you MCHN ask her about it- she'd have more idea than me. I hope that all made sense.

LMenz

03-04-2007, 06:52 AM

SuperFrog - Congratulations to you :yelclap: It IS a big achievement....breastfeeding is hard so well done on perservering.

I never thought I would make it past the first week let alone to nearly 7. I seem to have stalled in the expressing department too.... I'm wondering if it's cos my boobs are used to the baby stimulating them. In the begining I could easliy get 200ml in a sitting but am now struggling to get 70ml...

I'm yet to feed in public.....I've done it in the back of the car and in front of nearly all my friends and family. Personally it doesn't bother me but I find it's other people's reactions that stop me from doing it. Breastfeeding still seems to be a bit taboo.

Anyhoo...Well Done!!

Butterflymumma

03-04-2007, 07:27 AM

Alicia- My thoughts are with you and your beautiful baby girl Marissa. I hope she gets better straight away and hope you are okay too. It must be so scary to have your baby go through this but just stay positive, you and your little girl will be home before you know it. Many many :hugs: to you hunny, I'll be thinking of you all day.

Sorry no more personals, just wanted to say hello to everyone and i hope you are all well!! I had my first day out on my own with Lillyana yesterday and it was so so tiring!! I cant believe how long everything takes and how much energy it requires to go out for the day!! By the time we got home i had a very unsettled baby and not only that my back was so sore after getting her in and out of the car that it started cramping and i couldnt hold her anymore! :eek: mum and i gave her a bottle, then gave her a deep relaxing bath and put some music on for her at about 6.30 she then slept through till 2.30 am!!! It was wonderful to catch up on a bit of needed sleep!! i wonder if it was just cause we had a big day or if i tried the same thing again would she do the same?? hmm i shall try again tonight!!

I would love to go to the brisbane meet up but just dont think i'll get the energy this time what with having a big weekend and a big day yesterday i think i should give lilly a few days to relax and plus i think she's getting a cold!! :(

Well sorry i didnt get around to personals today, i'm thinking of you all and hope you are all well and happy!

Take Care
Tegan xx

NoMoreScuba

03-04-2007, 07:59 AM

Alicia, I hope everything is going ok - big :hugs: to you.

Superfrog - well done on the b/f, i'm glad you're happier with it now.

Cats&Kid, shelby and sassi - we can meet up on a day other than wed - when is good for you? I don't mind driving somewhere to meet up with you, but would be good to not be in the city as parking is so expensive, and i don't want to take the bus in if i can avoid it. How about meeting in manly - would you be able to get the ferry over? Or we just meet somewhere in the city where there's some street parking? I'm easy.

Charlie has slept through the night 2 nights in a row. It's magic! I have no idea why he's suddenly started doing it, i'm just keeping my fingers crossed that it's a habit he keeps up!

JoJoMart

03-04-2007, 09:28 AM

Alicia - I hope little Marissa will be okay. It must be hard when your baby is unwell like that. :hugs:

superfrog - fantastic that you have persevered with BF and it's working for you. I am still persevering but I am also comping with formula. Liam has been putting on weight again since doing that so I'm happy. He wasn't putting on enough weight with BF alone.

Doesn't it suck when bubs won't settle or go down for a couple of hours and by the time he's asleep his next feed is nearly due! Liam has been doing that lately and it's very tiring.

LMenz - regarding feeding in public......I can't really imagine doing it....though a friend of mine said you can discreetly do it by wearing the right top & she said you get over the embarrassment, but I just feel too uncomfortable so I take a bottle of expressed breast milk or formula. It would be a lot easier just to shove him on the boob though!

My mother's group starts of 9th May which I'm really looking forward to. Mine runs for 6 weeks then after that you just meet at other people's houses.......like we did with the Melbourne meet up!

Well, I really need sleep so I'm off for some :sleeping:

Have a great day everyone

Hels*Bels

03-04-2007, 10:38 AM

Superfrog - Good for you for persevering with the BF and that's great that it is finally all working for you. They do say that it can take a couple of months to become established and many women quit before then (me included!)

Butterflymumma - That's great that you had your first day out with bubs. It does get alot easier as they get older. I used to hate taking R out on my own (he would scream), but now he's alot better and so I really love doing it. I also find he sleeps so much better at night if he has been out during the day, so it's worth the hassle sometimes lol.

Re feeding in public - I even feel awkward sometimes giving him a bottle in a public place. People seem to stare when I'm winding him or if he's a bit sick. I'd much rather feed him in the car or in a parents room at the shopping centre. However, I have seen many ladies BF their babies with a blanket or wrap over the top, it's very discreet.

We had another good night, last feed at 10.30pm and he woke at 6am :smiliedance: DH gets up at this time for work so it meant for 2 nights he hasn't had a broken night. I managed to get another 2 hours sleep after feeding at 6am. I'm thinking about going to the shopping centre today, R needs some new clothes now that the weather has turned colder. I feel really tired and lazy today so I am trying to summon up the enthusiasm to go!

Well R is awake now so I think we will go and have a bath together and get ready to go out :D

EskimoMumma

03-04-2007, 10:58 AM

Leashie- My thoughts are you with you and your family. :hugs: I hope whatever it is that is wrong with marissa will be found and she makes a speedy recovery. I cannot imagine how hard it would be but Ive endoured countless visits to hospital in regards to DS and DD2 being in special care nursery for 6 days. Stay strong and know youve got support from us girls :hugs:

Nina- Thats awesome! Keep up the good work Ryan!

Hels- Wow! that is a hungry bubba you got there! Caitlinn will only have 150mls every other bottle. Shes fussy..(darn!) If i continuely make 150 she always leaves 50-75mls left so i Just compensate with every other feed. Its great finding out their routine isnt it! I am so lucky that Caitlinn's routine is just like Marys.. dinnertime is usually a little rough with dinner to cook and feed mary n caitlinn wanting her bottle as well and then bathtimes are the same too but ive got that insynch! I'm glad your able to get out there and do the walking, I cant just yet until I get my new shoes(my shoes are horrid, they are to old) and a tandem pram.

Tanya- Oh i envy you! I wish we can go away these school hols, but I think we are going later in the year. DP has been begging/nagging for us to go as well. I am not so keen on the idea because i knwo I will just be really jealous and envious of him lol.

Congrats on cody sleeping through! Its so great that everyones bubbas are falling into synch.We're such great ums:D

Penny- Good to hear your having a great time with mums group! they are so fun and its great being able to chat to other women and get all clucky with other bbies and toddlers. Id go but all the groups here are in the kids naptime lol I am not messing that up fo ra bit of company

mumslilspunk- I never keep leftovers and re-refrigate them. ATM i prepare the bottles and just store the water only in the fridge and when needed, i heat in the microwave. If i do need to give her the rest of its and tis cold, i put it in a jug of boiled water. Wont leave any hotspots or anything in the bottle and will distrubute the heat evenly.
It is a little different for me though because Caitlinn is on thickened formula and i cannot keep it stored premade(bummer!) Ive never used an electric warmer though, ive wanted to but never got around to it

Lmenz- Farts are funny! Caitlinn does them too , i can hear her from the other side of the house :eek:

Superfrog- yay!! congrats to you! Im glad its more enjoyable now for you and bubs. Try nto to worry about popping him on the boob while out in public, who cares! Baby needs to eat. I always say "im either feeding him or letting him cry, you pick" they usually turn back around and ignore you the rest of the trip/meal wherever you happen to be.

Butterflymumma- I know what you mean, its exhausting. I've got a 16month old and 2month old to lug around too Its funnn(not lol) Wow! Im glad to know she slept great for you! i hope you slept too in that time. I hope she isnt getting a cold. Stay healthy there lilly!

me- Reading the past few pages I'm getting a little jealous!! Caitlinn keeps chopping and changing ehr nights, starting to anoy me lol. Just when i thinks hes sleeping through after 3nights, she doesnt, she will wake 3hrly, and then the next she sleeps thru till 4.30-5. tonight ive decided im going to bite the bullet and beginn the girls with sharing their rooms. I figured the sooner i get Mary use to it the better. And what better time then now i reckon when caitlinn is preparing to sleep through . Wish me luck!!
Take it easy girls and enjoy your bath hels!

moggs

03-04-2007, 02:05 PM

Hi!

Leashie - I wish Marissa a speedy recovery. It must be really stressful for you right now.

Harleyq - yep whenever your down this way, we could organise a catch up. Molly is on school hols at the moment so i'm not as stressed!

Superfrog- well done with the BF! You should be proud of persisting with it.

mumslilspunk - I make up the bottles with just boiled water and store in fridge when needed. Same deal with the microwave as others have said. If Tayla drinks a little, i'll put it back in the fridge and reheat it later. in the microwave (i'm naughty!). I will only ever reheat twice. Also i don't think it matters if the bottle gets a little cold because I remember someone once told me that room temp is all they need. I don't know how right this is. It is all trial and error I guess.

Icugal- When we went to england last June, Molly's routine was all over the place. Her grandparents kept spoiling her and keeping her up at night. I tried to put down my foot with the rules - she was tantruming alot but at the end I gave up and started again at home. Took me a few days to sort her out lol! I have to do the same when DH has her for a while because same thing happens. He gives in to anything!! She twists him around her little finger..

Tayla - I am a little worried that she sleeps too much!
I usually have to wake her for her bottle, she's stay up for about half an hour afterwards, then get grumpy wanting to go back to sleep. She is now 9 going on 10 weeks! MCHN says she thinks it is because she has a placid nature.

Oh and i've had a few poo blowouts. It seems S26 gold and karicare (normal) give her constipation and wind whereas karicare gold makes her poos runny. Oh and she spits up more. How do you win? I am going to give her S26 today and then back to karicare gold tomorrow. Otherwise i'm worried she'll become too dehydrated with runny poos. Any ideas?

Me- I am desperately trying to loose weight. I have tried diet and exercise. I am getting very impatient thou. I want to be able to wear normal clothes!!

Moggs xx

Hels*Bels

03-04-2007, 06:54 PM

Moggs - Have you tried Nan formula? I use Nan Gold HA with 1 scoop of thickener and I find it agrees with R. His poos are fine and he doesn't sick up as much.

Well we did go to the shopping centre today and I spent far too much money lol. Reece was an angel all day, he loves his new pusher as he can see me all the time (he faces me). He smiles at me constantly, it's so cute! I was able to do everything I wanted such as browsing the stores, stopped for lunch and then later for a coffee. I fed/changed him in the parents rooms where I had a chat to another mum in there who's bub was 3 days younger than R. This was my first trip to the big shopping centre with R by myself and I'll definitely do it again.
I also bought myself some new jeans, tops and boots. I am fed up with still wearing my maternity jeans, so I figured these would do until I fit in my original clothes again (if ever!!)

Sleep vibes to all of you :sleeping: :fingerscrossed:

Roopee

03-04-2007, 09:31 PM

Hi girls!!

Well my meet with My_Lot went well. We got on like a house on fire and didnt stop talking all morning! It was funny, like we already knew each other, which, i guess, we do anyway. She's a lovely lady so if any of you ever get a chance to meet her- do it. Her and i are alot alike- i guess because we both have the 4 kids and our dh's are both workaholics. She was a bit late coz she got lost LOL. My directions were pretty cr@ap and she didnt have a map so it was doomed from the start:laughing:. But after about 30 txt messages each way we managed to get her there.
Our DS's got on really well too which was great as thats always a worry when you put two kids together but they were like best friends from the first minute:yelclap:. Baylee followed them around and played with them really well too.

Little Eli is so so so so so cute! He has these gorgeous little eyes and despite our babies being born on the same day, within half an hour of each other Eli looks about twice the size of Cody. And both babies were on their best behaviour.
I managed to get home just in time to reef the kids out of the car, grab the pram and run down to DS1's school to pick him up. Which means my DD1 didnt get her afternoon sleep so she was pretty feral this afternoon. Arsenic hour at my place was turning into pure hell so i once again packed the kids up and took them out for dinner and ice creams. Worked a treat!!

I had a fantastic day and i'm so glad i got to meet her, she's going to up my way again at Xmas so we will meet again then:smiliedance:.

Eskimomumma- your another one on my "must meet" list. After knowing you from here and the other forum i wanna meet you too so hopefully one day we can do that!
Oh and dont be too jealous of the holiday. I mean yeah, it will be great to get away but you know what its like, really, its the same sh!t different place. Us women never get a rest. We still have to do the house work, do the majority of the childminding, not to mention the packing and unpacking!! All tthe while Dh comes home fully rested an i arrive home more frazzled than before. Oh well- oh to be a man!

superfrog- you should be really really proud of yourself for perservering. Thats a great effort and to now be enjoying it is just great! A HUGE congrats from me!

Hels- well done on the shopping spree and glad your little man behaved! I trained DS2 early to love shopping and now somedays he actually asks to go so im sure his future wife will thank me for it one day LOL.

Thats enough from me forone night!
See ya's tomorrow!

icugal

03-04-2007, 11:11 PM

Hi all...

I've pretty much missed all the conversations today... so I'll just talk about me, me, me !! ;) :laughing:

Had my mothers group today and because there was no formal topic scheduled, we ended up just sitting around for hours chatting away about anything and everything... at one point, we were having a very in-depth discussion about how I would travel with baby on all my flights over the next couple of weeks.

I also mentioned briefly how I made my own baby hand and feet plaster casts when K was 5 days old (instead of paying hundreds of dollars to have someone else do it) so now our MCHN has decided that we're going to become a craft group so that everyone else could make their own baby casts - god love her !! My MCHN is a sweetie !! So we'll be doing that when I get back from the UK. It's a pity that I'm going to miss the next two weeks of my mothers group.

I've attempted to start packing for Kaelan tonight and I have no idea what I'm doing !! Because K doesn't have an actual booked seat on the plane, he only gets a 10kg checked luggage allowance (therefore, his nappy bag has to count as MY carry on allowance). I didn't think I'd get to 10kgs very easily... oh how I was wrong !! I've already had to take things out and put them into my suitcase. There is just so much stuff to take for a young baby !!! I have no idea how DF and I are going to manage carrying a baby whilst dragging around 3 suitcases, nappy bag and DF's carry-on baggage. Fun times ahead people !!!!!

Hels - Nice to hear that Reece behaved himself while you went shopping. I wish K was like that... he seems to start screaming the very second we step through the door of the shopping center. It's very frustrating.

Roopee - Have you got any photos from your meet-up with My_lot?

Roopee

04-04-2007, 06:25 AM

icugal- the pics are on My_Lots camera so whenever she gets time to put them on the she'll do it. She doesnt have access to a computer at the moment- but im sure she'll be on here once she gets the chance!!:thumbsup:

icugal

04-04-2007, 06:41 AM

Cool, can't wait to see the pics !!

Where is the justice in this world?? K has been asleep from about 1am.. and yet here I am, up since 6:30am and unable to sleep !!

NoMoreScuba

04-04-2007, 07:01 AM

icugal - word of warning on the packing. A friend of mine was packing to take her baby back to the uk. In the flight bag she packed about 3 changes of clothes for him. On the flight he was pretty good until the 2nd leg and then he just spewed everywhere. No problem, she thought, I've got lots of clothes for him. Only then she realised that what she had forgotten was spare clothes for HER ! So unfortunately her baby arrived nice and clean, but she arrived covered in 12 hour old puke, and I mean covered. Her mum picked her up from heathrow and after an hour in the car her mum actually stopped the car to heave on the side of the road because the smell was so bad!

icugal

04-04-2007, 07:30 AM

Thanks Sarah... you've just reminded me to pack the extra top... I'd almost forgotten !! My cousin (who is our travel agent and flies frequently with her young son) said the exact same thing !! And she's learnt from her own experience *LOL*

Just to think, in two days time, I'll be on a plane to Hong Kong :eek:

(Kaelan is STILL asleep btw.. so unfair, I could have slept in !!!)

shelby

04-04-2007, 08:02 AM

Cats&Kid, shelby and sassi - we can meet up on a day other than wed - when is good for you? I don't mind driving somewhere to meet up with you, but would be good to not be in the city as parking is so expensive, and i don't want to take the bus in if i can avoid it. How about meeting in manly - would you be able to get the ferry over? Or we just meet somewhere in the city where there's some street parking? I'm easy.

nomorescuba - manly sounds like a great idea that would be easier for me than the city.....what do you other girls think?

penny - I read a post of yours the other day talking about how Kaelan was 8 weeks old and how you pretty much had a routine and are now settling him really easily - how do you do it??? This is my biggest struggle right now. I try to watch out for tired signs but sometimes it takes be 2-3 hours to get Olivia down for a sleep. Would love some advice :)

roopee - sounds like you and mylot had a great time catching up - not surprising that you got on so well you have so much in common! I dont know how you do it I take my hat off to both of you.

hels - well done on a successful outing!!!

re: feeding in public - I have done it a few times now but never feel 100% comfortable. I opt for the parents room most of the time. We still havent got the attachment thing down pat so I find it hard to do properly when Im more concerned about making sure I dont flash too much of my boob! How are you ladies doing it - pulling top up or down - I have tried both but find either way I am still flashing a bit of skin. I try to use wraps etc to cover up.

I still dont like doing it in front of some family members but find this has more to do with my perception of whether THEY are comfortable with me BFing in front of them. For example, my stepmum always fed my little brother in private so I know shes not overly comfortable with it herself which makes me think she might not be comfortable with me doing it in front of her.

mothers groups - how are you guys finding yours? My official mothers group doesnt start for another 6 weeks, when Olivia will be 3 months old, but yesterday I tagged along to another more informal one. The problem was, they had all been going for a few weeks so knew each other really well so I felt a bit left out. I'll keep going though :)

butterflymumma - i was thinking about you the other day and wondering how you are going with your ex and immunisation struggles? Hope that is getting a bit better and not stressing you out too much.

have a great day everyone:hugs:

Sassi

04-04-2007, 08:06 AM

Good Morning all,

Sorry I've been MIA for so long, I haven't been able to catch up with all the March posts, but have started on April.

Leashie - Sounds terrible, my thoughts are with you and Marissa.

Shelby, Scuba and Cats - Would love to catch up, Manly would be fine for me (I am in Surry Hills) but I will be away until 18th April so if you guys meet before then maybe we can meet again after.

Sounds as though everyone is going so well and battling through the sleep. feeding, winding issues.

Us - Z is now 9 weeks old!! We are going really well, getting at least 1 x 6 - 8 hour sleep per day, just happens that he usually still wakes between 3 and 4 am... I have tried to wake him for an 11pm feed to see if that will help him sleep through, but no luck. Feeding going ok, but still having lots of episodes of unexplained screaming.

I am still having issues with my BP, and have to have a whole range of kidney tests done to make sure they are not getting damaged. I am still hopeful to come off my meds but the doctors are not thinking that it is very likely.. I think 29 is too young to have to take meds for the rest of my life.

I'm going to Hawaii for 2 weeks leaving on Friday. Penny i feel your packing issues although at least being hot I wont need as much.

Q. I have brought a maclaren quest stroller to take but it doesnt lay flat. my little man is big, good head control and 9 weeks old... do you think he will be okay? (manufacturer recommends 3 months)

Hope everyone is well, I better go change my screamer!!

NoMoreScuba

04-04-2007, 08:48 AM

shelby and sassi - great news about manly being ok for a meet up. I'm happy to wait until after the 18th sassi, but also happy to catch up before and after!? cats &kid - how about you?

sassi - sorry to hear you're still having the bp problems - i hope the hawaii trip will be so relaxing that your bp sorts itself out! on the buggy issue - i'd say if you're happy he's got good head control then that's what really matters. Make sure he's strapped in well too :D

mother's group - mine is fun, the people are really nice. we still have 3 official meetings left, but today a few of us are meeting at the beach for a coffee so i'm looking forward to that. i'm really making an effort to go along so that i can get to know them better.

breastfeeding in public - i'm fine when i'm wearing a b/f top, but otherwise it's a bit awkward. I find it really hard to put a wrap over me to cover me up because i just don't have enough hands, and charlie hates being covered. Anyway, i'm not that worried about flashing people - my (.)(.) are charlie's property now and he lets them know it!

Hels*Bels

04-04-2007, 11:56 AM

Roopee - That's great that you met up with My_Lot and got on so well together. It's really nice to meet new friends. I had a great time at the Melb meet recently and can't wait to catch up again. Let us know if you ever come down to Melb. Oh, and EskimoMumma is just lovely too ;)

Penny - Did you have to buy a ticket for Kaelan or does he fly for free? Not much in the way of a baggage allowance, considering that baby's tend to have more stuff than us :laughing: . Have you got one of those basinette cots booked for him on the plane? will be hard to carry him for the whole journey otherwise. :fingerscrossed: he sleeps alot.
I'm getting R's feet and hands done soon but I'm not game enough to do it myself. I think MIL is going to pay anyway.

Sassi - Hawaii sounds awesome, I am so jealous! I hope you have a great time. R is 9 weeks old too and he has never liked laying flat in his pusher and so far has been fine in a more sitting up position. You could always insert a head support if you're worried, Target sells a generic one.

NoMoreScuba - Have fun at your coffee meet at the beach, sounds like fun.

Us - Well I think I'm addicted to shopping centres as I love taking him to them :laughing: . We are off to the local S/C this arvo. I suppose the fact that I need to replace my whole wardrobe (due to the extra weight gain of late) doesn't help matters. Our bank account is looking a bit sad though so I'd better find some different places to go. I feel like I want to go out with R everyday though. I get up each morning and look forward to getting the both of us ready to go out somewhere.
It's strange because I used to be such a house hermit.

Did anyone see 9am on TV this morning? They had a segment on PND and said that in the future there will be automatic routine screening for all new mums. What a great idea. Apparently alot of new mums have it and don't know. I have it and I'm taking anti depressants which have made me feel like a new person. The doctor has told me I need to take them for 6 months though, but I hope to get off them sooner than that.

Time for some lunch now whilst R has a little nap.

mumslilspunks

04-04-2007, 12:41 PM

Afternoon ladies.
Short but sweet today, Have friends comeing up to stay till saturday so i doubt ill be abel to jump on the net!
Just wanted to say Hope you have a great holiday Penny and hope you flight over and back isnt as bad as you think!! You'll have agreat time!! Get plenty of pics to show us when you get back!:wave:
Oh and Sassi I hope you have a great holiday aswell!
Well Happy easter girls and hope you all have a lovely couple of days!!:party:
A bit early i know but this will be my last time on for a couple of days!!
Bye for now

harleyq

04-04-2007, 02:03 PM

I'm having withdrawals -- bubhub withdrawals - so instead of sleeping (which is what l should be doing considering l couldn't sleep between midnight and 4 last night) l am in here...

Leashie - My heart goes out to you and your DP, l hope they sought things out for you soon - big hugs for you both and an especially big one for Marissa.
superfrog - Congratulations on the BF!!! It is fantastic news - do you think having that tin in your cupboard helped give you some confidence??? BF'ing can be an amazing experience when it goes right -- apart from the fact that Coen is a little piggy and wants booby juice all the time - we have been successfully doing it since about week 2 (with no more pain) -- be sure to massage your breasts every time you have a shower checking for lumps -- from the sounds of it mastitis can creep up on you pretty quickly and it sounds awful!!! Like you my goal is 6 months - and possibly 1 year - but that is definitely it!!!

Expressing milk on the other hand is a different story. I can use a pump for half an hour and only get 30ml out of both sides in total. I've tried electric and manual pumps, and swapping sides after 5 minutes, but it is just soooo slow! Ironically the fastest way for me is hand expressing, which i would have thought was the hardest method. I've organised a night out at the comedy festival in two-week's time, so I'm going to have to stockpile some for Liam's first night of being babysat. (Is babysat even a proper word??) Haven't tried expressing for a few weeks, but maybe now that my milk supply has obviously settled perhaps it will be easier.

My next goal is to feel comfortable feeding him in public. I'm okay at people's houses, or with other mothers, but I'm not sure how I feel about "whipping out the puppies" at the local park for example. I'm sure that no one else cares that much, I just have to get used to the idea that my boobs no longer require such modesty. Weird. Do you express in the morning??? I find l have a whole heap more milk in the morning!!! As for b'f in public - l was so nervous about the whole b'f in front of people whilst l was pregnant that l was secretly thinking that l might have to give it up early -- or closet myself away everytime our little one was hungry... I will now do it almost anywhere - l am less worried about getting my girls out and more worried about offending people (not strangers - people we know - like DH work colleagues, his mates - l am totally fine with my mates and my family) - l also don't bf in front of DH family as 1. l don't feel comfortable with them to that extent & 2. its my opportunity to get away from my MIL who won't let me near my son when she is around... is that cheeky???

Me- I am desperately trying to loose weight. I have tried diet and exercise. I am getting very impatient thou. I want to be able to wear normal clothes!! How is everyone going with the weight loss? I am stuck with about 4kg to get rid of... but l think its really closer to about 6kg cos l have lost all my muscle and replaced it all with fat... I don't really want to buy any new clothes until l am in better shape (motivation hopefully) - the issue is l am still unable to do any excercise and even a shortish walk gives me problems with my coccyx - so its not really going to plan just now...
Rooppee & My_lot - sounds like a really successful meet...

Gotta go - Coen's screaming the house down...

icugal

04-04-2007, 02:41 PM

penny - I read a post of yours the other day talking about how Kaelan was 8 weeks old and how you pretty much had a routine and are now settling him really easily - how do you do it??? This is my biggest struggle right now. I try to watch out for tired signs but sometimes it takes be 2-3 hours to get Olivia down for a sleep. Would love some advice

hehe... well, my sucessful routine seems to have it's up days and down days.. today is one of those down days. I've only just got K down in his cot and he's been up since 8:30am !! But he definately is much easier than what he used to be.

My day routine involves giving him a bottle... then we have cuddles and I'll either put him in his horse-shoe shaped pillow next to me on the couch for awhile... or into his Sesame Street tunnel which can keep him amused to quite awhile. I sometimes put him into his rocker if I want to make him tired... because when he watches the mobile above his head swinging back and forth.. it mesmerises him into la-la land.

When he starts yawning, rubbing eyes etc, I wrap him, put him in his cot and put on his lullaby CD which repeats over and over all day long (needless to say, I know that cd VERY well !!). About half of the time, he will settle by himself... but other times he may require the dummy... or if I'm really desperate to get him to sleep, I might top him up with more formula.

Of course, there are still days where none of the above works and he is awake nearly all day and truly miserable.

Sassi - Have fun in Hawaii !! I'm so jealous... you get to sit on a beach while I get to freeze my a$$ off with all of DF's elderly relatives - oh the joy !! It's so reassuring to know that someone else is game enough to take a young baby on a long haul flight too. Our babies are only a day apart in age, so we'll probably go through the same sort of experience travelling with them (though unlike you, I can't take a stroller because K still has fairly poor head control).

We're going to be using a sling/baby carrier thing. I tried it out just now with Kaelan in the carrier and I think it's going to kill me... My back isn't brilliant at the best of times (nursing as an occupation hasn't helped), so I think I'm going to be in a lot of pain by the time this trip is over... not looking forward to it at all.

I also have trouble putting my complete trust in the carrier... I keep imagining that one of the buckles is going to give out and that K will go crashing to the ground. I'm sure it wouldn't, but I find it very hard carrying around the baby but not actually hanging onto him myself. I'm going to have to over come this fear if I want to take my luggage with me - it certainly isn't going to move itself !! :D

Penny - Did you have to buy a ticket for Kaelan or does he fly for free? Not much in the way of a baggage allowance, considering that baby's tend to have more stuff than us . Have you got one of those basinette cots booked for him on the plane? will be hard to carry him for the whole journey otherwise. he sleeps alot.
I'm getting R's feet and hands done soon but I'm not game enough to do it myself. I think MIL is going to pay anyway.

Kaelan doesn't get an allocated seat per se, but our seats somehow allow a bassinette to be used (which is provided by the airline). I've not actually seen this in real life so I'm unsure how it all works. Unfortunately, Kaelan doesn't fly free... his ticket cost 10% of an adult fare, so the cost wasn't too much I guess.

And great if you can get the MIL to pay for the hand and feet casts. Hey, if someone had have paid for mine, I would have got the professionals to do it too !!

I'm completely envious that Reece behaves himself when you go shopping... As I've already mentioned, Kaelan is a shocker !!! OMG... we only have to step into a shopping center and he suddely turns into the spawn of Satan !!! Even if we have only just fed him a full bottle before we left home... we can be garanteed that we will end up spending our time in the parents room soon after arriving because he'll want to be fed again. He just carries on so much - absolutely screams the house down. I didn't think that kids were supposed to embarrass their parents until they hit the terrible two's??

Kaelan is certainly a feisty little red head... I think he's gonna be trouble !!!

Just wanted to say Hope you have a great holiday Penny and hope you flight over and back isnt as bad as you think!! You'll have agreat time!! Get plenty of pics to show us when you get back!

Thanks darl... I hope you enjoy the rest of the week with your friends visiting. It sounds like a lovely way to kick back and relax !!! And I can assure you that there will be lots of photos *LOL*

Oh dear... seems like Kaelan is not going to sleep today... he is awake again :banghead:

Bad, bad baby !!! ;)

LMenz

04-04-2007, 07:15 PM

Good Evening

Well yesterday was THE WORST day I have had since Jack was born. From 6am til 10 pm he slept for a total of 4 hours and only for half an hour at a time :eek: I have no idea why he wouldn't sleep......he wasn't particularly distressed but refused to fall asleep. Needless to say the harder I tried to put him to sleep the more he fought. Anyway today was much better. He slept from 12-3pm straight with a few hour naps here and there. He's sound asleep now too.

This morning he was hard to put down and everytime I went in to settle him he would give me a huge smile....cheeky bu**er!!

Hels - I share your passion of shopping centres.... I always have a better day when I get out and about....makes me feels a bit more normal. Jack seems to like it too.

Sassi - Have a fab time in Hawaii. Hope to see some pics on your return. Maybe a holiday will help with your BP. Safe Travelling!

Hope you all sleep well lovely ladies :)

Hels*Bels

04-04-2007, 07:49 PM

Routine - We feed R at 10-10.30pm at night and he sleeps until around 4-6am, it varies. He then goes back to sleep again for about 3 more hours. After he wakes up I put him in his bouncer in the kitchen he loves the flashing lights and music. I prepare my breakfast and I eat that one handed whilst giving him a bottle. Then we have some playtime after which he is bathed and changed. Sometimes I get in the bath with him or afterwards he lies on my bed whilst I have a quick shower and get dressed etc. He will lie in my bed for ages with some toys, gurgling away so long as I have the TV on (which he is obsessed with). If he grizzles I give him a dummy. After I am dressed, he then goes in his pram and I wheel him around the house with me as I do a few jobs. He also comes out to the washing line with me. At some point he has a mid morning nap which is when I do some bookwork (or hop on here!) He then wakes up around lunchtime and has another bottle, after this we go out for the afternoon and he sleeps again in the car most of the time. If we are at the shops he lays awake in his pusher for a while and grins alot, then he falls asleep for an afternoon nap. When we get home he has a feed around dinner time, followed by a cuddle and then goes back in his pram which I take into the kitchen and he watches me prepare the dinner, then he has another sleep (which he is doing now). He wakes again around 10pm when I change him for bed and so the cycle starts again. He only goes in his basinette in his bedroom for nightime sleeps, if I try to put him in there during the day he will scream. I am happy for him to sleep in the pram as I can move him around with me all day and he sleeps very well in it.
We have had this same routine for about a week now, it's working out very well.

Tomorrow he has his last needle, thankfully that will be it for a while.

Sassi

04-04-2007, 07:51 PM

Twice in 1 day.. oh my god!!

Thanks for all the well wishes, can't wait to jump on the plane.

Hels & Lmenz - Me too, I've gotta get out and hate staying at home all day, plus as soon as I go out DS settles (the little angel likes being out too), of course as soon as I get to the shopping centre and stop to look at anything or try stuff on... he screams the house down. Shame he doesn't like shopping.

Penny - Did you get guarenteed (sp?) a bassinet. I'm flying Qantas and they have requested it in my booking, but advised that it is a case of first in best dressed with allocation of the bassinets, meaning if we don't get there early we could be holding DS the whole way. Needless to say we will be there early!!! Also agree completely with the sling carrier.. have you tried the hug-a-bub, there are no clips or buckles, that is what we are using to carry him through the airport.

I got my stroller today, still totally stressed about the fact that it doesn't flatten out, but I can't do much about it now...

Lmenz - sorry to hear about your bad day yesterday, we have those from time to time (spent no less than 16 hours with my little cherub awake for most of it about 3 weeks ago). Don't you just want them to tell you what is wrong so you can fix it and they can go to sleep. Hope you don't have another day like that for a while!!

Harley - I'm stuck with 5Kg to go, and haven't been able to shift it.. I started fit boxing a couple of weeks ago, but then dropped out, will restart it after my holidays.

Meet up sounds great scuba!! We share a name and age :)

HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE

Roopee

04-04-2007, 08:15 PM

icugal and sassi- have a great time on your holidays!!!!! Im sure the babies will behave really well while on the plane. The basinettes, i think, fold down from the wall. So to get one i think you have to sit facing a wall? Not a nice view for the hours you'll be on the plane for but i hope you both are able to get one!!

have a great Easter everyone!!!!!
We are going away too so after tomorrow i wont be on too much- no internet access:eek:. What to do what to do??

talk soon:hugs:

icugal

04-04-2007, 08:42 PM

Lauren - I seem to be having one of those days today. Kaelan is restless and doesn't want to sleep, only getting about 20-40 minutes at a time (after being awake for several hours in between naps). It's been driving me a little batty today... but I guess I can't really complain because normally he is pretty good. He's asleep again now and thankfully has been in bed continuously for a few hours now (though he keeps waking up, screaming, then going back to sleep again). :fingerscrossed: he will sleep ok tonight.

Hels - Sounds like you've got yourself a great little routine going there. Kaelan seems to hate the stroller/pram at the best of times (and I have two different ones) so he's not content to sit in it like Reece does (good idea btw :thumbsup: ). Kaelan gets bored with everything within about 20 minutes, so that's only as long as the peace lasts *LOL*

And Reece certainly does love the TV... I think he's staring at the TV in just about every photo we took at the meet-up !! Kaelan is starting to become mesmerised by the bright lights of the TV too, however I don't let him watch it often because I'm already paranoid that K will become one of those obese children who only watches TV and plays the Xbox all day.. ridiculous to worry about that now, I know.

Penny - Did you get guarenteed (sp?) a bassinet. I'm flying Qantas and they have requested it in my booking, but advised that it is a case of first in best dressed with allocation of the bassinets, meaning if we don't get there early we could be holding DS the whole way. Needless to say we will be there early!!! Also agree completely with the sling carrier.. have you tried the hug-a-bub, there are no clips or buckles, that is what we are using to carry him through the airport.

My cousin (who is my travel agent) has said that they are bassinett seats and when we rang Cathay Pacific a couple of weeks back to get more information about travelling with baby, they also mentioned on the phone that we had the bassinett seats... so let's hope that it isn't a first in, best dressed scenario.

Our flight leaves at 7:40am on Friday so we have to supposedly be at the airport 2.5 hours beforehand... so, so early !! Being as I'm probably going to have to give Kaelan a feed before we go to the Airport (as I can envision him screaming as we try to go through customs !!), I'm considering not even going to bed tomorrow night.. we'll see what happens. Thankfully we only live 10 minutes from Tullamarine (Melbourne) Airport... so at least we won't have to leave home as early as some others !!

I must bore you all with my Harvey Norman (HN) story...

As you may remember, HN had one of their 15 cent photo promotions a couple of weeks back. Unfortunately, my nearest store is Broadmeadows *shudders* (Yes, I'm a Broadie snob). I know how crazy it gets when they have the 15cent deal on, so I chose to wait until after the promotion finished to get a whole heap of photos printed (some of which we wanted to take to relatives in England).

Anyways, I submitted the files for processing last Tuesday and was told that as a result of their machines completely breaking down during the 15 cent thing, that they were backlogged a whole WEEK and would have to wait until Tuesday this week (yesterday) to pick them up. Fine I said... as long as the photos would be done by Thursday because of going away.

Anyways, on Saturday we were at Broadie and so decided to try our luck and see if the photos were done... of course they weren't but we reminded them about the Thursday deadline (which they wrote down and *highlighted*) and assured me they would be ready by Tuesday at the latest.

Tuesday came and went and no phonecall from HN to say the photos were done... so I went in there today to find that they still weren't printed.. and what's worse, I found out that there was now no trace of my files anyway... turns out that they'd completely lost all my photos off their computer (they were copies thankfully). They told me I could upload all the photos back onto their computers and they'd print them out straight away... but of course, I didn't have my USB drive with me (which is where my copy of the photos are located) and being that it's such a hassle taking a baby out and about all the time, I said I would just get a refund and would come back after getting home from the UK in a couple of weeks to do them again.

Of course, when they went to do the refund there was some problem with the computer and it couldn't be done at that time. Grrrrrr. Out of frustration I said I would come back later in the day with my USB drive and get photos printed on the spot.. they were more than happy to do this because they felt really bad about losing my photo files.

So, I go home, grab my USB stick, and drive all the way back to HN again (probably 15-20kms each way). I get back to the Photo Center to find out that in the 30 minutes that I was gone, a virus was somehow uploaded into their system and the whole system had crashed again !! :banghead:

I have now given them the files back to print but I still do NOT have my photos... and now I won't have them back until after I get back from the UK because I won't have the opportunity to go back to HN tomorrow.

So not impressed...

bAaM

04-04-2007, 09:55 PM

Hi girls Just here quickly to let you no we are home bub had a urine track infection caue the hospital never gave me antibiotics after my waters broke she is still a little sick but getting better . They have to keep an eye on her kidneys to make sure there is no damage.
I haven't had time to read all the posts yet so no personals from me today, but thank you so much for all your kind word. I really do hope none of you have to go through what we have in the last week it is devastating to watch you child got through what my sweet little angel has gone through this week but she is a fighter.
Happy easter everyone and for those of you going away have fun and keep safe you will be missed.
Bye for now.
Alicia xx

Cats&Kid

04-04-2007, 10:28 PM

Hi all,

Leashie: so pleased they've found out what was wrong and you have your little angel back home and on the mend. Horrible thing to go though :hugs: to you both.

Sassie, Scuba & Shelby: Manly sounds great - I'll catch a ferry over with Sassie, unless we decide to meet sooner - just let me know.

Sassie & icugal: Hope your flights are event free and your holidays wonderful with your beautiful bubs.

Everyone: Have a wonderful, safe and above all sleep filled easter! Didn't think I'd ever say it but forget the chocolate and just let me have a few hours sleep :)

shelby

05-04-2007, 09:04 AM

sassi,scuba and cats - looking forward to catching up. I am happy to either meet earlier or wait until sassi is back - what do you want to do? should we make a day?

hels and lmenz - i am loving going to shopping centres - its really sad but I really enjoy just getting out and it is the most exciting part of my day :o i find it a bit frustrating sometimes that I end up carrying Olivia and pushing the pram because she is crying.

Do you guys find you are stopped by random strangers and asked about your baby (how old, name etc) Im finding it a lot, particularly the older ones are so sweet.

Its weird being part of this new parents club - Im finding there seem to be two groups of people. The ones who are really negative (for example my brother in law, who the day after I gave birth while on the phone "congratulating" me - said "dont worry, it only gets worse from here") and seem to want to give you the worst case scenario whilst also managing to get across that no one had it as tough as them. Another example is my stepmum, who said that the next 4 years will be the worst of my life but it gets a bit easier after that and that I will be lucky if me and DF make it through. I find this really discouraging at times and I know that it has more to do with their own situation and how they feel about it but it still bugs me.

The other group (who I love) are the kind, compassionate, empathetic mums (and dads) who tell you it will get better and offer help and support and an ear to whinge to if necessary. The other day I was in a shopping centre with Olivia in my arms crying and another mum walking past stopped me and said "dont worry it does get better, mine is 10 months old and it is so much easier now". Love that.

Have you guys had similar experiences?

harleyq and moggs - i have lost all my pregnancy weight but want to lose another 10kg or so to get into a healthy weight range...I was really keen to get stuck back into exercise and was planning on going to the gym and getting a program set etc then was reading a parenting magasine where a mum said she all but lost her milk supply after exercising too much or too intensely....thats kind of demotivated me a bit as I love pushing myself and want to get back into running. Now im thinking I have to take it a bit easier....

penny - thanks for the tips. Its encouraging to know that it is possible to get them down to sleep and get into some sort of pattern. As we speak (or as I type!) Olivia has been asleep for an hour and a half - so happy! hope you have a good trip and that it isnt too stressful for you.

:wave: to everyone and happy easter.

iamstephyc

05-04-2007, 09:59 AM

Hello Ladies!!
I'm so excited to finally be able to catch up with everyone!! :smiliedance:
Unfortunately We've all had to move in with my folks and there is no internet. I'm at a friends now, using her dial-up but she only has a couple of hours left with here pre-paid connection, so I have only got a minute.
I just wanted to say I hope everyone is doing well and that aside from the 7 of us living in 2 bedrooms at my parents place, we are all doing pretty good.
Hopefully we can get a connectionnat mum and dads soon so I can catch up properly.

So, (hopefully) talk to you all soon!

LMenz

05-04-2007, 11:04 AM

Hi All :wave:

Just got back from Jack's 6 week check up (even though he's 7 weeks - bad mummy!) He's doing fine but the doctor thinks he does have a bit of refulx. I think it's fairly mild and mostly it just interupts his sleeping but we are trying him on some Zantec to see if that helps

It's my 4 year wedding anniversary today - but we both forgot this morning :o oops. Normally I would have shot my DH if he forgot but I did too....How things change when a baby is in the picture.

Penny - All the best for your trip. Stay Safe :)

How's Kaelan today? Sleeping better?

Shelby - I know what you mean about people's comments. I think your right about it being more about them and their situation....my mum is the same.

I love it too when people peek in the pram and tell me how cute Jack is. I was out with a friend the other day and she couldn't believe that so many people comment on him and talk to me....Funny to admit it but it's nice to talk to other adults even if I don't know them

I'm starving!!! Gonna have some lunch :chef:

Hels*Bels

05-04-2007, 12:21 PM

Shelby - I also love to chat to the other mums when at the S/C, especially in the parents room. We get alot of comments too, I think everyone loves looking at a new bub. I've had a few people comment on R's new pram too, it's a new model and many parents-to-be like the idea of it (reverse facing).
Thankfully, I haven't had anyone say anything negative about having kids. I really wouldn't want to hear that anyway :no:

StephyC - So great to see you back online and doing well. I was wondering where you had got to.

Leashie - Glad to hear you and bubs are home again and everything is ok now.

Penny - Here's wishing you a safe trip and I hope you have a wonderful time in the UK visiting the inlaws. I'm sure K will be fine with it all, the bubs are very adaptable and you are a very laid back mum so I'm sure he will go with the flow :D I'll keep you updated on any future meets too incase you can't get online much. Take care of yourself hun and little K :hugs:

Us - Just got back from the doctors and R had his last needle. Once again he was fast asleep until she put the needle in and then he screamed the place down. He's asleep again now and I gave him panadol earlier so hopefully he will be ok. This arvo we are going to the shops again (surprise surprise!) lol. But only because there is a sale on Bonds underwear and I need to buy some new bras and undies for my new "fuller" figure :rolleyes: .

NoMoreScuba

05-04-2007, 01:29 PM

Hi everyone,

shelby, sassi and cats&kid - shall we try and catch up for coffee and a walk in manly sometime while sassi is away,and then again when she's back? How about next thursday (12th)? We could meet at 10.30/11ish and have coffee, then a little walk, and then if the bubs are all happy maybe we can risk some lunch out too?!

iamstephyc - good to know you're ok! hope to hear more from you soon

hels - have fun underwear shopping! i spent a fortune on new bras last week, mine have increased in size yet again to a massive 12DD ! i feel like pamela anderson, they were a 12B before i got pregnant!

Lauren - i hope the reflux medicine is going ok with jack - have you noticed a difference in him yet?

leashie - congratulations on returning home with marissa - i hope she's settling back in ok

me - charlie is still making a habit of sleeping through the night which i'm very grateful for. he's been pretty disturbed today, but he's now down for a sleep, and i'm frustrated because i really want to go to the mall, but i don't want to wake him up. i figure i'll let him sleep for another hour or so and then take him out. i hate waking him up...

icugal

05-04-2007, 04:20 PM

Hello girlies !!

Leashie - Glad to hear Marissa is out of hospital and doing better !!

Shelby - I can't believe how social the parents room of shopping centres are. It doesn't seem to matter who comes in with however many children, you also seem to start up a conversation !!

When Kaelan was first born, we were constantly stopped by people asking about whether he was a boy, how old he was and how big he was at birth. It got to the point where we ended up putting a bunny rug over the front of the pram just so that people couldn't see the baby because we were never getting anything accomplished. I guess because he was small at birth (6lb 5oz).. he was (is) considered cute by everyone !!

Even today, I was having coffee with one of my best friends... and this little girl (probably about two) was yelling out "Look mummy at the small baby !!".... she was completely fascinated by him. This attention then started off a round of questions about K from other customers and the waitresses *LOL* Even at nine weeks, he's still got it !!! :thumbsup:

iamstephyc - Good to hear from you darl.. hope you can join us again on a more regular basis soon !!!!

Lauren - Kaelan has had virtually no sleep today because I've been out since early this morning... as a result, he is VERY unsettled. As I type this, it has finally gone quiet in his room so I'll assume that he has finally gone to sleep. But prior to this, he has just spent the last hour screaming.

Hels - Give Reece a cuddle from me after having to suffer his remaining needle today... poor little poppet !!

Well as for me, I have had a busy day today... Went and had a look at the Pixi photos that we had taken a couple of weeks ago. As you may remember, I mentioned that Kaelan frowned his way through the entire shoot... well, as expected, most of the photos turned out terrible. Thankfully the free photo that I had chosen turned out to be the best one of the whole lot, so I didn't have to pay to get any more printed. Despite the fact that Kaelan looks completely pi$$ed off (he does look kinda cute !!)... I guess I can't complain that it didn't cost me a cent.

Click here to see the free photo --> http://www.penny-clark.com/temp/pixi.jpg

Being as I like to terrorise my poor child with endless photo shoots, a couple of weeks ago I dressed up K in a bunny suit here at home and took photos of him for Easter (these photos will be great for his 21st - hehehe !!). Again he looks very unimpressed, but very cute :D

I've put one of those photos online here --> http://www.penny-clark.com/temp/easter07.jpg

As we're flying out of Australia at 7:40am tomorrow.. let me take this oportunity to wish you all a happy and safe Easter. Hope you get to eat lots of chocolate !! :)

icugal

05-04-2007, 09:13 PM

*fast forward five hours*

OMG.. I have had the worst night EVER. Kaelan has effectively screamed for six hours straight and nothing I did could stop it. I've fed him, burped him, changed him, bathed him, massaged him, swung him, rocked him, walked him around the room etc etc etc.

Thankgod DF came home earlier from work tonight than usual because I was nearly at breaking point. He's taken over K now because I'm now six hours behind in packing for our trip, cleaning and last minute organisation. Don't think I'll be going to bed tonight (considering that we have to be at the airport by 4:40am).

If Kaelan is like this tomorrow.. I'm seriously going to scream.

Oh, and did I mention earlier that this morning I woke up with the start of the flu... and tonight I got AF again... impeccable timing of course. I feel absolutely awful right now. Head is stuffed up, throat is sore, have period pain etc.

What a cr@p start to our holiday tomorrow... :gloomy:

shelby

06-04-2007, 07:01 AM

LMenz

06-04-2007, 08:14 AM

Lauren - i hope the reflux medicine is going ok with jack - have you noticed a difference in him yet?

I only got the script yesterday.......I'll let you know how it goes. Hopefully it will help him.

It's great that Charlie is sleeping through now.... I wish Jack would do the same.

Penny - I know you won't be reading this but I hope Kaelan settled for you and you managed to get some sleep yourself

HAPPY EASTER TO ALL!!

Squiggles

06-04-2007, 10:10 AM

Hi Ladies,

Leashie - You poor thing. Im glad Marissa is home now. Our best friends son had a urinary tract infection when he was a few months old and they absolutley freaked out as he was so ill and had to be taken of to hospital in an ambulance... now though he is 18 months old and is much better - he has had to have a few checks on his kidneys - he had an MRI last I heard and all was Ok. So hope all stays ok for you and that you can have a bit of a break over easter.

Shelby - I am constantly getting stopped by people commenting on Connor. Because he has so much hair I generally get "oh look at all that hair" and the other one (which I hate) "oh he's going to need a haircut soon" The old ladies are the funniest - they all seem to love him. I did have one which really p!ssed me off though... I did the shopping and Connor was an angel until I got to the checkout when he started to scream and I thought to myself don't stress, people will understand and if they dont well then too bad... I walked out of the shop and Connor stopped - I felt like I had accomplished something and then this old biddy comes up and says "oh its embarassing when they scream isn't it" I could have socked her one in the mouth!!! Most people are lovely though and its really nice to get positive attention.

Lauren - hope the medication is helping Jack's reflux.

weight - well Im still holding onto 10kgs of pregnancy weight (I put on a whopping 27kgs) Im weighing in at 62kgs :banghead: but Im sure thats only because I haven't been allowed to exercise for 8 weeks, but Ive been given the all clear now so no more sitting around stuffing my face with Magnum ice creams!! Its on the treadmill for me (well when I can find the energy anyway) Im lucky I guess Im still pretty small (Im only a short a$$), DH says I am still gorgeous which is the main thing, doesn't help with the clothing situation though!

Us - well we had a shocking day yesterday. Took Connor to see his pediatrician in the morning, didnt go so great turns out he has ecezma and dermatitis all over him - have been given 3 different creams plus and oil for his bath. We were then sent down to the hospital to have his head x-rayed as he was concerned that Connor favours his left side and has a flat spot on his head - he was worried that the plates in his head are not fusing/joining together in proper alignment. Connor screamed and screamed through the xray - they had to contort his head and neck and he hated it. Then we went off to the immunization clinic for the 3 needle jab - more screaming. When I got home it took DH and I literally 5 hours to clam him down. He was so worked up, I couldn't put him down or move out of his line of sight, he wouldn't take his bottle he was just so traumatised by the whole day - broke my heart.

We are off to mum and Dads beach house tomorrow for the night which will be Connors first night away from home! We were going to go up for the whole weekend but now with having to cart all of this baby stuff around we cant fit the dogs in the car as well and I didnt want to put them in the kennel for the weekend as they will be going in there in a few weeks when we go off to Hamilton Island - and the horrible IL's wont look after them so we can only leave them for the night. Will be good to get away though.

Hope everyone has a great weekend and hope the easter bunny stops by with some yummy choccys!!

sorry for the long post too - its been a while for me..

LMenz

06-04-2007, 10:31 AM

Squiggles - Poor Connor! I hope the x-ray comes back all clear...enjoy your day at the beach. Old biddy!! :laughing:

I imagine it's going to be pretty quiet here without Penny and Kaelan.....Jack's nearly asleep. He's making funny whining noises which means he's getting too tired to protest.

I'm waiting for my DH to get back from the gym so he can take over. I've told him he's looking after Jack today....I'll just feed him and that's it - wonder how long that will last???

Anyone heard from Juzzy???....she's been absent from here for a while now. Juzzy where are you hiding???

Hels*Bels

06-04-2007, 06:57 PM

:yes: it is quiet in here, no posts since 11.30am!

Poor Penny, what a rotten way to start her holiday, hopefully the flight goes smoothly.

Well today Reece has been a little $hit lol. He has winged all day, wouldn't feed properly and wouldn't sleep. It could be because of the needle he had yesterday and I know that panadol always upsets his tum.
I have given him some mylanta and he is sleeping in his pram at the moment, finally.
I hope I have my contented baby back soon :fingerscrossed:
Tomorrow we are going out, hopefully R will be more settled or it won't be much fun.

Hope everyone is having a good weekend.

harleyq

06-04-2007, 08:10 PM

Leashie - I am so glad that ordeal is over for you and that Marrissa is on her way to recovery!!!

Lauren - Poor jack (reflux) oh and happy anniversary for the other day... l hope you ended up celebrating it in some fashion in the end???- -like you l have been a bit slack, Coen had his 4 wk appointment yesterday (at 5 1/2 weeks) - the little chubba has put on 1 kg in 3 wks... the nurse was quick to assure me that that isn't too bad -- frankly l don't care if he has a little extra layers on him at the moment, as far as l am concerned that gives him a little added protection down the track, she also mentioned that it tends to plateau around 3 months for breastfed babies and it was a good indication that bf was going really well for us :smiliedance:

Penny - sorry its a bit late, but l hope your flight went okay and that you have a marvellous trip - it sounds like you need it - what a horrible lead up to the trip - but hopefully that means the worst is behind you... oh and those photos of Kaelan are gorgeous!!!

Squiggles - Coen also gets the comments on all his hair & about the haircut as well... its amazing how pregnancy and a newborn will make anybody talk to you...
Good luck with the weightloss, whilst l only have 3 kgs to lose, l am quite small so it looks like more and -- l am still unable to do any real excercise... l tried the other day - and well l am still paying for it - gonna ask the doc how much longer l have to stay of it (coccyx)... cos it is frustrating!!!!
Oh Squiggles that sounds like a nightmare dr. appt. Poor Connor!!!! Have you got the results of the xray yet???

Lauren - l also told DH that it is his day to look after Coen -- and he kinda did a little - but he got let off cos Coen has been fantastic today - in fact he has been really good the last few days (sorry to those who are going through a rough time) - but l think :fingerscrossed: l have finally worked it out, l was waiting too long to put him down, thus he was overtired and really difficult to settle, so now the earlier l get him down the more he sleeps for the rest of the day - l almost feel guilty cos l have so much more time on my hands... it also means he is not feeding so often and my (.)(.) are about to explode - had better head off and express so l can ease some of the discomfort... l hope l get to login again before easter but in case l don;t have a wonderful Easter period!!! Big hugs to you all.!!!

One last thing - Melbourne gals - we discussed trying to get together every two weeks or so -- so how about we organise the next date??? As mentioned earlier l am happy to have it at my place (15 min. north of the city - on the way to the Airport) or we can do the City thing -l think we were talking Crown casino for easy parking access etc??? What do you think???

Hels*Bels

06-04-2007, 08:20 PM

Sandy - Great that you have Coen in a routine, I hope it continues :fingerscrossed: Don't feel guilty, you have been patient and worked hard to get to this stage, so enjoy!

I agree that it's time for another Melb meet. Penny wanted to come on the Crown one so maybe we should wait until she comes back and in the meantime we could do another house meet? I'm happy to come to your house and it will give those on the Northside a chance to come along too. Do you want to suggest a date then? Any day except for wednesdays is good for me as that's when I will start Mother's group.

Can those who are interested please speak up so we can agree on the date and Sandy will PM you her address details? :D

EskimoMumma

06-04-2007, 08:22 PM

Yup I'm all for another meet. Weds/Fridays dont work for me. Anytime suited, but if its northside can we make it 12ish? That way (:fingerscrossed: ) Mary will sleep on the way.

Hels*Bels

06-04-2007, 08:25 PM

Yup I'm all for another meet. Weds/Fridays dont work for me. Anytime suited, but if its northside can we make it 12ish? That way (:fingerscrossed: ) Mary will sleep on the way.

Lets do lunch then! We had enough food last time didn't we? :laughing:

EskimoMumma

06-04-2007, 08:56 PM

I just had a brainstorm...one of these meets we should all bring our partners so that way we arent giving the dads too much "guy" time:p

harleyq

06-04-2007, 09:04 PM

I would love to have it at my place - but l am also very conscious that penny (who also lives in the North) would probalby like to attend a meet so close to home, so it would be good for her if we hold off my house till she gets back... So if its okay with you guys l will put my hand up for say a months time -
Say Tuesday 24th of April or Thursday 26th...

How about we do this next meet in the Western/eastern suburbs - anybody want to put their hand up?

Oh & by the way l think Lunch is a fab idea - that way we should all be able to avoid peak hour traffic - and l don't think we'll have too much trouble with the catering if last time was anything to go by (juzzy is probably still coping with our left overs???)

Hels*Bels

06-04-2007, 09:14 PM

I don't mind having it at my house this time, but I am in the south east (near Hampton Park).
Let's see what the others think?

Another suggestion is to meet at Chadstone shopping centre for lunch? Then those who want to can shop afterwards :D

I gotta get off this 'puter and go to bed. I'm too busy arranging my social life and my little man needs feeding :shame: :laughing:

harleyq

06-04-2007, 09:25 PM

Oooh Chadstone sounds good to me...

juzzy

06-04-2007, 10:06 PM

hey guys

i am still around! just havent really had the time to post. Cassidy hasnt been sleeping thru the day at all for the last week so i am having real issues with getting things done during the day. toys r us are having a sale at the moment so i might go buy her a swing thing tomorrow to keep her entertained.

i hope everyone is well, soooo many pages of posts to catch up on that ill b here for weeks trying to do personals!!

As for me, im getting the flu! It has been lingering for a week or so and is slowly getting worse. I think it is effecting my milk supply as Cassidy doesnt seem satisfied by breast milk alone anymore :thumbsdown:

been feeling really good about things but the idea of losing my milk supply (as much as breast feeding annoys me) is kinda getting me down. doesnt make sense to me at all. its kinda like i failed at giving birth to her (ended up in emergency csect) and now i dont want to fail at bfing as well even tho i have gone thru so much to get to this point (having mastitis and whatever). Oh i dunno.... my confused little mind has been working overtime so i dunno whats going on really.

as for weight loss. i have been trying to motivate myself to go walking everyday for the last week but it isnt happennig. Instead i have been enjoying chocolate alot more than i should be. Hmmm decided today that after gorging myself on possibly one too many mini easter eggs that i am banning myself from chocolate for the rest of the weekend. Same thing goes for coke too. Need to lose some weight so i can think about conceiving baby number 2 (DP and i have agreed that we would like to have our babies close in age). I also need to lose weight as want to look nice for my sisters wedding on Hamilton Island in November. Hmm need to get my bum into gear and hit the pavement i think...

Have a good night everyone, hope you all enjoy the weekend. Need to go settle Cassidy then im off to bed

harleyq

07-04-2007, 09:18 AM

I think l cursed myself - why do l do it??? everytime l tell somebody about something good that Coen is or isn't doing - it comes back to bite me on the a**e! Well yes he slept lots throughout the day - but guess what, l was up every 2 hours feeding for 20 minutes and resettling - l look like **** this morning - not to mention DH and l were snapping at each other during the night (but all is forgiven this morning)...Juzzy l really feel for you - l know what it is like to have no time during the day - Coen wasn't sleeping during the day for longer then 20-40 minutes for the first 4 -5 weeks, (l think it was predominantly my fault though - failing to read the early signs of tiredness) - l hope Cassidy gets herself out of that habit -- is there any chance that you could be missing the tired signs like l was???
Both DH and l are also feeling under the weather, not the flu, just sore throat and generally run down - Coen is a bit sniffly too (but no fever - Oh!! l hope l haven't cursed myself :fingerscrossed: ) We've been drinking a lemon drink (which seems to be helping) --- if your interested - Cut a lemon in half add water (just enough to cover the lemon) boil for about 20 minutes - add some honey for flavour and drink as tea!!!
What a bugger on your breast milk - it wouldn't be helped by the fact that you are probably exhausted (my milk supply drops when l am really tired) - any chance for some shut eye???
and no matter what happens you are NOT a failure - bf is hard work (as is the labour) and you are a wonderful mother (and person) big hugs to you :hugs: ... try not to be too hard on yourself - the weight loss thing is really depressing (l might be a small girl but l am still kgs overweight and can't fit into any of my prepregnancy clothes or my pregnancy clothes -- so essentially surviving on a few tops - l hate going to the wardrobe each morning) but you can only tackle one thing at a time - get yourself right then worry about the walking... your probably resorting to the chockies for a quick energy boost and endorphin rush (l know thats what l have been doing) :eek: WIsh l could come over there and give you a big hug personally - please ask your DP to do it for me!!! :hugs:

juzzy

07-04-2007, 03:39 PM

thanks sandy, feeling a bit better today.... well kinda...

as always DP ran off to help his family do something today (seems to happen everyday recently) so i am left here looking after Cassidy. It seems that he isnt able to do anything with me and her anymore so i am feeling pretty unloved. Every time i try and mention it to him he brushes me off as being silly. Am i being silly? Id just like us to spend one day together as a family.

Not only that but i am here babysitting DPs 3 year old nephew. DP was supposed to come home earlier this afternoon and help me but as of yet, hes not home. So i have been watching kids movies all afternoon and finally got him to go have a nap. Cassidy is also asleep so i should be using this time to clean the house a bit but i dont think i can be bothered. Seems as though i am the only one doing anything in relation to keeping the house clean. I am so not impressed.

JoJoMart

07-04-2007, 05:19 PM

Hi everyone,

I've been off line for a while because of hubby being home on holidays and we have been busy........plus Liam has been very unsettled the last 2 days which hasn't helped.

Juzzy - I totally understand what you are saying. I have had a low milk supply from day one and I am having to top Liam up with formula for most feeds......I got VERY excited last night when I expressed a whole 100mls which I've never done and usually only express 40-50ml in one sitting. I haven't been able to do it again today though :thumbsdown: . I also understand your feelings of having 'failed' with the birth as I also had an em caesar and also feel liked I've failed at the breast feeding too but try not to let it get you down. I think you are doing such a fab job! The fact you hosted all of us Melb ladies without a glitch and being a young mummy I think you are doing really really well :hugs:

Hels - I'm still up for lunch at Chaddy or if the others want to meet for lunch somewhere we could pick another shopping centre......maybe not Knife (High)point (just kidding) as it's had some legionnaires outbreak or something I think?? I might not get a chance to check the computer again until Monday as busy tomorrow with Easter family things but let's decide soon. I can also volunteer to have a meet at my place but I'm south so don't know if that suits everyone as we had it in the southern suburbs last time.

Well, Liam has been a bugger today and totally unsettled not sleeping at all.....finally he's asleep in his pram after such a **** day. I think it's partly the visiting yesterday to the inlaws etc and being passed around with everyone wanting to hold him and poor Liam not getting his usual naps :eek:

Have a VERY HAPPY EASTER everyone. Enjoy your CHOCOLATE you deserve it!!

harleyq

07-04-2007, 05:19 PM

It sure is quiet in here this weekend - l guess everyone has better things to do (bar me...)
Juzzy - I am glad you are feeling a bit better - I soooooooooo hear you -- l can't tell you how many times l have to ask DH to spend time with me... or to talk to me.. he runs onto his computer, drives without talking etc. this is all fairly normal for him - but at this point l am home alone all day with Coen and it would be nice to have some adult interaction... he is pretty good with spending time with Coen but l have to remind him to spend time with me... I feel like l am constantly nagging/begging for some attention and some love - is this how you feel?

I just finished preparing dinner for tomorrow and making some dishes for our BBQ on Monday, in between sshing Coen and cleaning up - and you know how yesterday l said it wasn't the flu... well its definitely now a full blown cold (me and my big mouth again)!!!! I don't know if its just that l am run down and that is getting me down or what - but l feel very similar to you!

I don't know how you are managing to look after someone elses child as well as your own, not feeling well and DH not on the scene!!! Take it easy Juzzy!!! Look after yourself - don't forget you have two bodies to take care of at the moment.

LMenz

07-04-2007, 07:50 PM

I have been trying to get on here all afternoon.....

My little monkey is still not sleeping more than 45 minutes between feeds. We started him on the Zantac yesterday but so far haven't noticed much difference. The good news is he slept for 9 hours straight last night and then 2.5 more after a feed. Not sure if it's because he was so tired from lack of sleep during the day or he will just do it from now on. Anyway I'm not complaining....only problem was I woke up at 1.30am cos my boobs hurt. Hopefully that will settle down as he sleeps a bit longer

Juzzy - Glad your still around...sounds like your doing it tough at the moment :hugs: I totally agree with everything Sandy and Joanne have said. You are NOT a failure. You doing a great job as Cassidy's mum...you are her whole world at the moment and she will still love you no matter how you feed her. My supply really drops down when I get a bit tired and stressed....try and rest if you can - the housework can wait!! Make sure you drink lots of water too. I'm sure it will come back once your feeling better.

Harleyq - I'm so glad Coen is sleeping better...don't worry if things go pear shaped every once in a while...Jack is still having some very unsettled days. I think it takes time for them to learn how to sleep properly. I have PMed you too :)

Ist Time Mum - YAY!! to you on expressing 100ml. Sounds like your supply could be slowly on the increase

RE: DH spending time with me.....add me to the list too. I just don't think men are equipped to deal with a baby 24/7.

My DH was meant to look after Jack today but I ended up intervening as Jack was getting more distressed and DH was getting more impatient. He loves him to death but just can't cope when he cries. I do think it's a bit harder for him as I'm with Jack all day so I know what (most) of his cries mean.

Well I'm off......Sleep well everyone :)

LMenz

07-04-2007, 07:53 PM

Forgot to say....the chadstone meet sounds good to me :thumbsup:

Shajbm

07-04-2007, 10:23 PM

Just a quick one today ladies,
Alicia- Thats just terible you poor thing. I too have everything crossed for her speedy recovery!!

Those of you who are bottle feeding, this may sound like a stupid question but with re heating the bottles how do you guys do it? I know EBM can only be heated in boiled water but ive been microwaving his ff. And with reheating the formula can you re heat it more than once?
Its just that quite often Billy only gets through half and then when i change him etc etc by the time we come back to feedm the bottles cold. And if he only had a bit out of a bottle before he falls asleep can i re frigerate it again?
Thanks

You can reheat formula in the microwave if you've gone and changed nappy and it's cold. But this can only be done within the hour that you started feeding. Ie if you start feeding at 3pm then you can reheat and use that bottle till 4pm. You can't refrigerate unused milk.

Shajbm

07-04-2007, 10:42 PM

Hi Ladies,

I'm sorry, I too have been MIA.

Sounds like you all had a great time catching up the other time. I'd love to meet you all one day, but afternoons don't work as I have to pick up Jake at 3.30 from kinder. From my experience with having children, mid morning is usually best to catch up. This way you have feed them and got yourselves organised and out of the house without too much stress and then you meet quietly stress free.

Also to those who are having sleep issues, I'm sorry to hear this and it is one of the most challenging part about parenting. Sleep promotes sleep, so it's important to try and get your babies into sleeping during the day (but no more than 4 hourly), this way encouraging them to sleep longer at night. They need to eat enough during the day in order to do this. Also most babies don't start sleeping through the night till they are about 4 months or 16 weeks of age so do be patient.

I was also reading about the BFing issues. I had an emergency c-section with Jake and couldn't BF him and I had a really hard time dealing with that. The one thing I've learnt is that you need to do what is right for you and not anyone else. Don't let anyone bully you into doing things that you have had enough of. Besides BFing might be best but the reality is that formula feed babies do just as well. Jake wasn't BF and touch wood he is rarely sick and is as active as they come.

You are all doing a fabulous job and parenting is hard. I do promise to check in more regularly and keep up to date.

my_lot

08-04-2007, 07:53 AM

Happy Easter Everyone

icugal

08-04-2007, 09:06 AM

Hello Girlies !!!

A very, very quick message to say hello !! We're currently sitting at Hong Kong Airport waiting for our flight to the UK. God bless free wireless internet !!

Have been in Hong Kong for just over a day and needless to say, I wasn't impressed with it at all upon our arrival (that's a long story). It has grown on me a little over time which is probably a good thing because we'll be coming back here for three days on our way back to Australia in two weeks.

Kaelan has been absolutely BRILLIANT. This baby carrier has turned out to be the best investment I've ever made. As soon as he's in it, he sleeps !! Better than any drug I could have given him.

Anyways, better go... I have to scoff down some breakfast before we jump on our plane.

Miss you guys heaps.

(PS I've been fighting the flu since I've been gone... DF reckons it's because I'm having severe Bubhub withdrawal :D )

LMenz

08-04-2007, 09:26 AM

Penny I knew you couldn't stay away for long........Enjoy the rest of your trip :D Kaelan is such a good boy!

my_lot - How was the holiday?

my_lot

08-04-2007, 09:29 AM

well im back from our holiday.

it was just fantastic to be away from the rush of everyday life. the hire car reaked of smoke and it was only a day old! it made my mother sop sick with asthma she ended up on steriods. thanks to virgin blue our baby seat got soaked at the airport and we then had a wet little baby on the way home! the seat needed to be washed from the smell of the smoke anyway.

but apart from that we had a great time away. we went to the beach and for a bushwalk...we had a BIG day out at TARONGA (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/bestviewintown.jpg) ZOO (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/monkey.jpg) in (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/bear.jpg)sydney (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/bridgelunarpark.jpg) we found this strange lady (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/ladyinthecity.jpg) near the ferry gates...she stood so still and moved really slowly. it really freaked dps but dds were mesmerized.

we went to the (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_4037.jpg) Royal (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_4027.jpg) Easter (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_4048.jpg)Show (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_4148.jpg) and that was a great day. the animals were just great. the (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_4060.jpg) rides (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_4067.jpg)were a lot of fun. 40 tickets for $35 got us all a ride and some side show games. we left with a purple" my little pony" pony. i went down the giant slide with the kids and my poor ds was on my lap as we went flying ahead of the others i was laughing so much the guys working there had to help me up! the littlest member of our crowd,Eli, (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_4018.jpg) was good all day and he got a big Elmo doll for his showbag...and OMg wasnt the showbag hall packed with people! i had to take the kids in one at a time for fear of them getting lost. it was shoulder to shoulder and 20 minute wait to get a bag!

Roopee would have filled you in on our meet (i will go back and read all the posts later)

so here are the pics-

Eli and Cody (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/elicody8wks.jpg) and look at the size of my big boy next to Cody!

and this is all the kids together (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/thekids.jpg) . my ds4 holding Eli, the very cute little one in the middle is tanyas dd2 and her ds4 holding Cody.

it was great fun to meet, have the kids together and the two little people who made it happen.
it took me over 2 hours to get there and an hour to get back! yes i got lost! but it was sooo worth it. tanya and i got along really well and i cant wait for our next meet up.

well got to go~ the kids and dp are back from their walk

hope everyone has a great weekend!

my_lot

08-04-2007, 09:41 AM

oooh in my rush to get this posted while i was on my own here i forgot to add~

my mother won 1st prize and 3rd prize in craft that she entered in the royal easter show! i was just thrilled to bits to see something she had made for Eli WIN...woohooo for my clever mumma!

juzzy

08-04-2007, 02:04 PM

hey guys

thanks for all the support, i know you guys are right but it is a matter of getting myself to believe it really!!

i guess the weekend has got better to an extent. After looking after DPs nephew yesterday i managed to get Cassidy to go to sleep at just a little bit after midnight. She woke up at 5am for a feed and then stayed in our bed until about 930 this morning. That is the second night in a row she has woken up early in the morning after weeks of sleeping through. I dont know if i am doing anything different in her routine or if she has just decided it would be a good idea to wake up at that time!

my_lot those pics are great! Sounds like yourself and tanya had a great time!

Penny hope you are having fun on your holiday!! Looks like the bubhub withdrawals got too much for you!

about the DPs - since DP spends so much time away from home, whether it be working or at his parents place he doesnt know how to recognise what her cries mean and she also cries when he holds her alot of the time as well, like she cries as though she wants to come to me. This really frustrates DP so instead of trying to spend more time with her when she cries or whatever he automatically tries to hand her back to me without trying to calm her down... this frustrates me as he should be trying to spend time with her and things like that, but he just doesnt have the patience that i have i guess.

so yeah sandy i contsantly feel as though i have to nag or beg DP to spend time with me. I told him last night that this is how i feel and he said i was overreacting! Needless to say i wasnt happy after that.

My cold is getting worse as well... my head is throbbing and no matter how much panadol i take or how much water i drink it wont go away!

Grrrrr.... anyway, ive got to head off... im at DPs parents place and im being a bit of a snob.... hehe

HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE!:wave:

mumslilspunks

08-04-2007, 04:02 PM

Afternoon ladies
Juzzy- :hugs: Men GGRRR they just have no idea. My dh is the same. Just holds B for a little while but as soon as he needs a feed or starts to cry he passes him back :banghead:
Harleyq- Sorry to hear about your cold!! Last thing you need. Have you tried a lemon and honey drink? I normally have one before bed.
Lmenz- Sorry to ask a dumb question but what is Zantac?
shajake- Thaks for that!
icugal- Cant belive your away on holidays and still manage to post!!LOL We've gotten to you havent we..... HA HA Hope your having a fantastic time and glad to hear the lil man is behaving himself:D
My_lot- Love the pictures!! Theres none of you though?? Glad to hear you had a great holiday!!
Me- Well i had a fizzer this morning (lost the plot). Ive had visitors here for the past 4 days and with 4 kids under 2 and billy not sleeping of a night i totally lost it this morning! Billy was unsettled from about 5 am and just wouldnt stop crying. So that everyone elese didnt wake i thought id take him for a drive. Got home and soon as i got him out of the car he started agian. By this stage our visitors had left. (without saying goodbye WTH) DH was in bed after a big night on the **** and ds1 was watching a dvd so i walked into our bedroom and said to dh " if you dont take him im affraid i might hurt him coz ive had a gut full" He had a go at me coz he was trying to sleep!!
Hes done nothing but drink since our visitors got here and has done NOTHING to help with ds1 or ds2!!
I totally had it. Got in the car and just took off. I was crying so much i had to pull over and thats where i fell asleep for nearly an hour :eek:
I came home and ds1 was fast asleep and dh and ds2 were having a cuddel on the couch so i just went straight to bed.
I still havent spoken to dh. God men they are just so thick!!
Oh and yet again nothing for easter!
Sorry for the vent !!

Squiggles

08-04-2007, 05:14 PM

Announcement - I am oficially a fat chocolate guzzling pig with no will power :yes:... mum bought DH and I some lindt chocolates and Easter eggs for easter this morning and I have already eaten mine - pig pig pig! I just couldn't stop gorging myself, even though Dh told me to take it easy as he reminded me that he is the one who has to listen to all of my complaining about how guilty I feel afterwards. So sorry ladies but Im whinging to you. I just can't help myself. I really need to take this weightloss thing seriously or I will turn into a short little round ball of chocolate filled fat!! :shame::laughing:

Attention from DH - to all of you who are not having much time with your DH or DP, Im sorry! DH and I go through phases where all he ants to do is play on his computer and drink beer or watch rugby on TV or hang out with his mates all of this when he is not working (which is not much time at all - he is a major workaholic) but then other times he can get overly annoying trying to be a sweetie and following me around and making suggestions of things we could do. Its hard having a new baby and Im sure we are all adjusting, life is certainly different now! I hope its just a relationship phase??!!

mumslilspunk - I hope you have manages to have some rest now. The lack of sleep definately hurts doesn't it and sometimes it would be nice if the men could work this out without having to be told!

my_lot - your holiday sounds wonderful, glad you had such a great time!

Harleyq - Hope you are able to get some rest and get rid of that cold. Eating kiwi fruit always helps me, it has lots and lots of Vitamin C and always manages to make me feel better. Might help?

I hope I dont jinx anything but we have been really lucky with Connor this weekend he has manged to sleep for 2 x 6 hour blocks at night!!! Its been great.

To those who have unsettled little ones I really feel for you and hope they start to help their mummies out a bit more!

Hels*Bels

08-04-2007, 07:45 PM

*Warning* - long post alert!!

Juzzy - Hope you're feeling a bit happier today hun :hugs: You're doing great as a new mum and from what I saw at the meet, Cassidy is a real credit to you both. Try not to feel like a failure about the caesar either. The main thing is that you created and grew a beautiful bub for 9 months and have a whole lifetime to enjoy her. The delivery is really only a small part in the whole scale of things and it was just a way of introducing her to the real world. Personally, from my own experience a VB was alot more traumatic all round for both me and bub so you didn't miss out on anything! It's definitely a caesar for me next time around and I'm not going to feel any less of a mum for having one either.

Penny - I had to laugh when I saw your post from Hong Kong airport! I knew you would be missing the hub and I was thinking of you today and wondering if you were in Old Blighty yet. Keep an eye on that cold/flu as it will be freezing in UK. Hope you are feeling better soon and had a good trip.

My_Lot - Glad you had a nice trip and I love the photos from the meet.

Mumslilspunk - Sorry to hear about your day and your DH but good for you for standing up for yourself. They really are trying sometimes, sounds like everyone is in the same boat.

Us - I had one of my migraines today, it was a bad one so I couldn't get out of bed until 5pm and I was :barf: 3 times, felt a bit like morning sickness again! So we didn't get to the Home Show today after all but will probably go next weekend instead. DH coped quite well with R today by himself, he even took him for a walk this arvo to settle him. DH complained about how he was still in his bed clothes at 3pm and got nothing done, I said "welcome to my world" lol. I was annoyed because when I got up the whole place was a mess and I had to spend an hour clearing up!

Reece has found his hands, they are always in his mouth now, sometimes he shoves the whole fist in lol. I am always trying to keep them clean now so he doesn't get thrush again.

We bought R some little Easter eggs, too bad he is too small to have them so being the good mummy that I am, I will have to help him out ;)

Re the next Melb meet - I hope you all don't mind but I am going to take the initiative and get things organised again for the next meet. (I'll take it upon myself to be the Meet Co-ordinator lol) Otherwise we will be throwing ideas around for weeks :laughing:
I went to Chaddy yesterday and it was awful, so busy and noisy and it really put me off having the meet there, would be no good for any unsettled bubs. Also, it doesn't suit EskimoMumma as Mary is very unsettled when at the S/C. So let's have lunch at someone's house again? As a suggestion, it's probably best if we stick to having house meets in our own areas as it's pretty much impossible to suit everyone. And then maybe once a month we could meet in the city to accomodate everyone? That being the case, for the next meet Joanne's place would be good as she is in Bentleigh. How about this Thursday the 12th April at 12pm and everyone brings a plate of food for lunch? Joanne, could you let me know if this suits you and PM me your address? thanks.

Let's do a City meet sometime during the week commencing 23rd April. Suggestions please on which day, where to meet and whether to have lunch somewhere so we can book it first? Anyone know of a suitable place? or we could meet at Crown and work it out from there? Please post your suggestions and preferences here or PM me.

LMenz

08-04-2007, 08:28 PM

*ok pity post alert*

As I type my DH is at the Red Hot Chili Peppers concert....I'm green with envy!!! They are my favorite band and I'm so jealous to be missing out.

We got the tickets last year and I decided not to go as Jack would be here and I wasn't sure how I'd be feeling after labour and all that.....Well I wish I went!! :banghead: I guess if I was there though I'd be missing Jack and wondering if he was ok without me (the little monkey has slept the whole time!)

I just called my DH so I could listen a bit but it's made me even more jealous.........

Anyway, Jack's been asleep since 5pm and doesn't look to be waking anytime soon. Not sure if I should wake him or let him go. He's not even in his PJ's - don't even want to think about his nappy! He'll probably sleep until 2am and them want to play

RE: Husbands - I think it is a relationship phase....It's a massive change having a baby in the house. I think things will settle down as we get more used to having another person around all the time. My DH said to me the other day that Jack gets all my attention now and what about him.....Great I now have two babies to look after :laughing: Men hey??

I do feel for my DH a bit though as he feels a major responsibility now to look after his family financially plus be a good father to Jack and pay me attention......I know he feels left out too as I'm breastfeeding, so Jack and I have a bond already.

I'll be back...listening to concert again

LMenz

08-04-2007, 08:59 PM

Lmenz- Sorry to ask a dumb question but what is Zantac?

Not a dumb question at all...Zantac is a medication for reflux. Jack's doc thinks he may have a mild case as his not settling well during the day and spews a lot (still spewing when he's due for his next feed). ATM he's only sleeping for 45 minutes between feeds but is obviously very tired.

I hope it is refulx so we can treat it but I hope it isn't too as he's so young to already be on medication...poor little mite!

Hels*Bels

08-04-2007, 09:11 PM

LMenz - Did you see my post about the meets and are you able to make them?

SuperFrog

08-04-2007, 10:42 PM

Just a quick one as I should be in bed by now. I probably sound like a broken record as I think I say that every time...

Melbourne city meet sounds great! My mothers' group starts up soon on thursdays (finally), so any other day would be better for me.

Pyjamas: I've never really thought about Liam having day-time and night-time clothes. I usually change his nappy before his last feed, then pop him straight in bed afterwards. Usually change his clothes if they are dirty, when he has a bath, or if people start comenting that he was wearing the same thing yesterday!

Barf smiley: Whenever I see the pukey smiley it makes me feel pukey too. I always try to scroll down the page so it isn't on the screen. I think I'm a nutcase.

Liam: Has also discovered his hands and also tries to shove his whole fist in his mouth... he's pretty close to achieving this too! His eyes are back to being all gummy again, and now he rubs his eyes all the time and spreading the goop, which isn't helping. Liam has also discovered his voice this week and has started making noises like a conversation. If only I could understand what he was saying...

Does anyone elses baby sneeze heaps? I'm hoping Liam isn't allergic to our cat and the sneezes are nothing to worry about. He always does a big loud sigh after sneezing though, which cracks me up every time! Too cute :yes:

Okay, I'm really going now. Night all!

LMenz

09-04-2007, 07:31 AM

LMenz - Did you see my post about the meets and are you able to make them?

Yep....I'm pretty sure I can make it. Jack has a check up one day this week and once I can find his blue book I'll double check which day it is and let you know for sure.

SuperFrog - About PJ's...Jack normally sleeps in a onesie at night. He spews a lot!!! so we have wardrobe changes almost every feed. When I remember I chuck a bib on him but he normally spews on the bit it doesn't cover. Jack sneezes heaps too...always has. I think it's just his nose getting used to everything in the air

Well my DH is in trouble again.....I asked him to not be home late last night and he rocks through the door at 2.30am :mad: I'm really fed up with his lack of help and not putting himself out to help me or spend time with Jack....it's not a happy household this morning. I'm waiting for Jack to go down again so I can yell at him

Ok vent over....sorry girls! You all must think my DH is such a sh*t!!! (sometimes he is!!)

Better go were off to my mum's today for a BBQ and I have to make a salad

Enjoy the last day of Easter!! :D

EskimoMumma

09-04-2007, 07:38 AM

Good luck with everything Lmenz :thumbsup:

NOt alot from me. but mumslilspunk, what you did was absolutely perfect. Its the ONLY thing that gets through guys heads. Dont worry, wait for him to apologize first :yes:

shelby

09-04-2007, 08:14 AM

Lmenz - huge hug to you hon. I was reading your earlier post about missing out on the chili peppers and I remembered back to all the times when I was pregnant when DF would go out and have drinks and I couldnt and how awful that made me feel......and then coming home at 230. I really would have cracked it too. I hope he is grovelling big time.

Question for you - I was reading your post in the reflux forum - has zantac helped at all? I think Olivia might have reflux also and am going to get her checked out this week. Her main symptom at the moment is fussing and screaming at the breast - she gets absolutely hysterical like she is in pain. Same as Jack though she only catnaps during the day..

superfrog - I have started putting Olivia in an all in one because now that its getting colder I am finding that when I get up in the morning she has unwrapped herself and her hands and feet are really cold.... quite often Im lazy though and dont take her out of her pjs until she has a shower that night. Olivia has also started making HEAPS of noises its so cute - I had a 10minute conversation with her this morning where I would say something and she would coo back at me....so gorgeous.

My bub also sneezes heaps - dont think its anything to worry about. She does a whole body thing - her arms come up over her head its so cute!!

Hels - I so feel for you with the migraine - I get spewy migraines too and its just awful. Glad your other half looked after Reece - good for them to know how hard it is.

squiggles - I have so gotten into easter eggs this weekend in a bad way - I need to lose weight and take it seriously but chocolate is just so good!!

mumnslilspunk - How are things with your DH now? I hope he understands how hard it is for you and appreciates what a fantastic job you are doing. Do you feel any better after a bit of sleep and getting away for a bit?

Juzzy - your doing an amazing job. I have said to my DF a few times that I want to go on a date and spend some real time together and sometimes I just want to say to him "can you pay attention to me instead of the baby??""!! and then I feel like I am being selfish. Its so hard adjusting to a new addition and keeping your relationship going with sleep deprivation, etc...

penny - your a crackup. SO glad Kaelan is being good on your trip so far and hope you feel better - dose up on the vitamin c and look after yourself. And while you are there you have to check out babygap - they have the cutest baby clothes!!

Me - Well I have had a really sh!t week. Olivia has been feeding badly and crying lots and I have been feeling really down. I know this sounds pathetic but I have been really insecure that she likes my partner more than me - she smiles for him all the time and hardly at all for me, and she will cry in my arms then as soon as I hand her to him she will stop. On Friday she was getting hysterical in my arms and I tried for about half an hour to calm her down - ended up handing her to DF and she stopped instantly. I didnt say a word to DF, picked up my keys, walked out the door, and went for a drive for about 2 hours. Part of me really didnt want to come back, isnt that awful? I feel like other than feeding her I am not really needed or useful. I know it doesnt really sound rational and thats why I think I might be a bit depressed. I have been feeling this way for a while but didnt want to put it out there for fear of how it sounds, and also dont really want to face it. I also feel so guilty because I think feeling down prevents me from enjoying Olivia a lot of the time and I think I should be getting a lot more joy from her....I am due to see my doc this week for a 6 week checkup so might talk to him about it then.

Thanks for reading and happy easter....:)

JoJoMart

09-04-2007, 10:15 AM

Hi everyone, I hope you all had a nice Easter and ate lots of chocolate.......I know I did and I got on the scale this morning and need to lose 5 kilos so I'm going to cut back on the chocolate if I can :no:

Hels - I would have loved to host the meet this week but my hubby has organised the house to be rewired which means an electrician coming over 3 days and in and out of each room........how this will work having a bub to deal with & BF I have no idea! I may even have to leave the house. So I can't have it here this week unless you want to postpone until next week say Monday or Tuesday (or any day for that matter)? I'm really sorry about that. Can eveyone wait until then, or alternatively we could meet somewhere else?

LMenz - I feel for you (a) missing out on the Red Hot Chilli Peppers concert and (b) having a hubby who went out drinking & can home really late. I really think that partners give themselves more freedom and think they 'deserve' it because they are tied down with a baby but it's not THEM really tied down to the baby anyway! Did you sort it out with him?? Blood men! Yes it's a relationship thing and mine is currently on holidays but busy working painting the fence so I'm still the no. 1 child carer for Liam!

Mumslilspunk - :hugs: you must be exhausted and I don't blame you at all for leaving the house and getting upset.....it's totally understandable. It must be such hard work with 4 little ones AND bloody visitors. I'm over visitors too not because I don't like them but it's so tiring and I only have one bub to deal with.

Me - I'm still struggling with the BF thing and comp with formula but it's getting better.

MIL - I'm so uncomfortable with mine.....my inlaws are way too keen which annoys me as they are already making comments......like the other day my FIL asked if I had Liam on the bottle yet because he reckons he's too skinny and I've been BF him and FF him but it's none of their business as they aren't the parents. What a pain inlaws are don't you think! My MIL also wants to hold and comfort Liam a lot and I think she thinks she's the bees knees who can settle all babies.......:mad:

Hels*Bels

09-04-2007, 10:18 AM

Shelby - Don't feel bad about Olivia settling for your DF as apparently this is quite normal. I attended a sleep and settling class when R was younger and they said that this can sometimes happen. The reason is because you are recognised as "the feeder" which can unsettle bubs if they can smell the milk. So when bubs goes to your DF it's a different smell. If it worries you, try singing to her and talking to her all the time (this is what I do) and she will soon start to respond. Oh, and don't worry about how silly you may sound!! I don't think anyone could beat my own version of "There's a hole in my bucket" ;) :laughing:

Re PJ's - Reece has daytime outfits which depend on the weather. Being in Melbourne it varies alot, but is usually an all-in-one. He has some nice 2 piece outfits for going out in. At night he has always slept in a bonds wondersuit. I like them because they are towelling so he doesn't sweat and they have turn over mits which keeps his hands away from his face and mouth. I also still swaddle him in a cotton wrap and have a blanket over the top.

Well, I'd better get off here and go do some cleaning, the house is filthy!!

Hels*Bels

09-04-2007, 10:23 AM

Hels - I would have loved to host the meet this week but my hubby has organised the house to be rewired which means an electrician coming over 3 days and in and out of each room........how this will work having a bub to deal with & BF I have no idea! I may even have to leave the house. So I can't have it here this week unless you want to postpone until next week say Monday or Tuesday (or any day for that matter)? I'm really sorry about that. Can eveyone wait until then, or alternatively we could meet somewhere else?

That's cool Joanne, we can have it at your place next time maybe? I'll have it this time, I am in Lynbrook (near Hampton Park). If everyone who's coming could let me know please so I can PM my address :D
What a pain having the sparkie at your place this week!! I would be getting out of the house too especially if the power could be off for a while.

NoMoreScuba

09-04-2007, 02:50 PM

Does anyone elses baby sneeze heaps? I'm hoping Liam isn't allergic to our cat and the sneezes are nothing to worry about. He always does a big loud sigh after sneezing though, which cracks me up every time! Too cute :yes:

This is my favourite thing that charlie does! I love it, it's so cute :laughing:

my_lot

09-04-2007, 04:42 PM

jeez im in nigel land again. isnt it quiet in here.

dp has just taken the kids for a bike ride so i thought id hop in while dinners on.

i just saw a pic os my two boys , boys- they are soo cute!

ive spent the avo (well on and off) finishing dds room. we started with the purple and pink theme a while ago but it kinda just stopped rolling when i had the baby :rolleyes:

so ive finished hanging the butterflies from the ceiling and hung the organza curtains using different shades of purple on one window and soft pinks and puple with the matching curtains (from the quilts) on the other window and flowers and those curly stick thingys are climbing the foot end of the bed now. its very girly and pretty...and nice to walk past after the greens and blues, buzz and woody (toy story) and rockets in the boys room!

i pick up my other baby from the cat motel tomorrow. theyve been shut over easter so i couldnt get her right after we got back- and ive missed hr so much. poor bugger getting pushed aside for a baby and then shifted of to a new home for 10 days!

SuperFrog

09-04-2007, 05:51 PM

SuperFrog - About PJ's...Jack normally sleeps in a onesie at night. He spews a lot!!! so we have wardrobe changes almost every feed. When I remember I chuck a bib on him but he normally spews on the bit it doesn't cover.

I've got a stack of colourful cloth nappies that i use for burping after feeds. Catches much more than a bib! Liam isn't an overly spewy baby though so it usually works for us.

I think I got used to trying to keep Liam's clothes clean because of his broken collar bone when he was first born. I tried not to move his arm around too much, and changing his clothes was the hardest.

I've just been given one of those sleeping bag suits for winter for Liam. I had one that was way too big for him. Poor kid could only sleep with his arms out to the side as it was too big and fluffy for him! Hopefully this one is the right size for now. It even has a hole for a seat belt so he doesn't have to take it off for the car ride. Great idea for cold winter nights.

Roopee

09-04-2007, 10:31 PM

Hi guys, im back from the holiday from hell with the inlaws, in a caravan, in the p!ssing down rain. Sounds like a whole lot of fun now doesnt it.
Had a run in with the MIL about my boy Riley. Re my post in the family and friends section. Geez, she's a real piece of work!

I havent had time yet to read thru all the posts but i see my_lot has kindly posted the pics from our meet! Thanks My_lot!! I cant wait to do it again! I hope we get more time next time. I didnt want to leave, was having too much fun chatting.

Cody had her first cold!! Poor little girl is all stuffed up in the nose- and she's only 9 weeks old! This is where the guilt for not breastfeeding kicks in. Makes me feel like a bad mum.

I hope you all have a good night ladies!

my_lot

10-04-2007, 05:49 AM

Cody had her first cold!! Poor little girl is all stuffed up in the nose- and she's only 9 weeks old! This is where the guilt for not breastfeeding kicks in. Makes me feel like a bad mum.

tanya:wave:

not breastfeeding DOES NOT make you a bad mum!!

and breastfed babies DO get sick too!

im sick of people in my family saying that b/feeding is keeping Eli "nice and plump (wtf hes a baby!) and keeping him from being as sick as the others were". i would love to see the proof in this!

yes i had three sickly kids before Eli but the 2 fully b/fed were sicker with colds, bronchiolitis, pneumonia, croup ect than the one before them that gobbled formula more than b/milk!..now i know that could have been due to them being prem too...but looking back to having dd2 at the same time as my cousin had her 2nd and 3rd im not so sure~ my cousin had twins born just as many weeks early as dd2 just a few months before her. they were each 2lb less in weight and had more problems with breathing and stayed in SCN longer than mine. from day one mine was fully b/fed they were fully f/fed.. at 3 months old she had what i though was a simple cold- she had RSV bronchiolitis and was in hospital for 10 days! by 12 months she had had it 2 more times was using a nebuliser and was on a puffer for asthma. by 2 she had been in and out of hospital for croup so many times i lost count but these little boys had not been back to hospital since their birth... and they never had more than a runny nose!

so i dont think my kids were/are healthier because they are b/fed!

i think its the luck of the draw!

i have 2 kids sitting in 2 different classrooms each with 25 odd other kids and their germs. i have 1 little boy who is in comtact with 60 odd kids a day at pre-school. my dp works with up to 50 different people a week. i go to public places like shopping centres- confined spaces like lifts and planes- its only a matter of time before Eli gets sick. b/feeding might help him but only keeping all the germs out is going to stop him from catching a cold this winter.

your a good mumma! dont be so hard on yourself with the b/f b/f thing its really not going to make a lot of dif later on. i know i cant stand at my sons pre-school and sort the bottle fed kids from the breastfed kids :confused: :D

icugal

10-04-2007, 05:56 AM

Hello again...

Made it safely to London on Easter Sunday (12:30am Monday, Melbourne time) then had to endure another 2 hour drive to Bath which was fun considering that my flu has gone into overdrive. I've lost my voice completely (you still can't shut me up though *LOL*) so communicating with DF's 94 year old grandmother today was an experience !! :) I've gone through a box of tissues in 24 hours and my nose is so sore. Hope I get better soon (Lemsip has become my new best friend).

Happy to report that my MIL is very nice (this is the first time we've met) and of course, everybody loves Kaelan !!

Today we went into town and did some touristy things (ie visited the Roman Baths in er.. well... Bath !!). I think tomorrow they're going to take me to Stonehenge which I'm looking forward to. We'll also be staying in Bristol for a couple of days so will get to look around there before the week is out.

Kaelan continues to be the wonderbaby... sleeping mostly and being very well behaved. I never could have imagined him being this good. I'm definately starting to think that this was the best age to bring him overseas.

I'm still missing chatting with you guys and will endeavour to catch up on everything when I get back. I'm sad that I could miss another meet-up, but I guess that's just the way it has to be.

I hope you all had a nice Easter (I completely forgot about Easter when I posted from Hong Kong) and that you've got lots of chocolate !!! I've been given heaps here, but as I can't taste anything at the moment because of my flu, there's no point eating any of it atm

Well, I guess I'd better go... I told the in-laws I was coming upstairs to check my email, but we all know that means checking on Bubhub right? :D

Catch you all later :)

LMenz

10-04-2007, 07:30 AM

Penny - Your a total crack up :laughing: Glad your having fun...we miss you too!

Things are sort of sorted out with DH.......Will be interesting to see how he goes this week with helping out. Thanks for your support guys - it's so good to vent on here!

Yesterday was lovely.....family and friends pawed over Jack. He was so exhausted by the time we got home. He has slept for another 9 hours straight :yelclap: This is the 4th night in a row so fingers crossed it's a pattern. I'm really feeling better with few more hours of sleep under my belt

Shelby - RE Zantac: No improvement as yet....still sleeping terribly during the day. Jack sceams at the breast sometimes too but over the last few days I've noticed it's when he's really tired.....I think he's too tired to suck! He tends to feed very well and more calmly when he's had a big sleep

I find I can't consol him either at times and agree with what Hels said.... he associated me with food. Don't feel bad for the way your feeling....I've felt the same it times! It's hard work adjusting to a new baby especially when your breastfeeding too. Hang in there, your doing such a great job especially with everythign you have overcome with the breastfeeding :hugs: Have a chat with your doctor about possible reflux...Jack hasn't officially been diagnosed - were just trying the Zantac to see if it helps. Hopefully your doctor will do the same. If it's not reflux it can at least be ruled out. Is Olivia sleeping well at night?

Joanne - You're doing a great job with Liam.....ignore your FIL's comments about his weight. Liam is just perfect! Don't feel guilty about giving him formula...Both my DH and I were formula fed and you woudln't be able to tell

Roopee - :hugs: to you. My in-laws are crazy too! Hope Cody is feeling better soon.

my_lot - Glad to have you back too. Your dds room sounds so pretty.

Hels*Bels

10-04-2007, 09:36 AM

RE MELB MEET

Really sorry ladies but I have to cancel the meet for this thursday 12th April. I have something already arranged that I totally forgot about :banghead:
Can we please change it to next week which is Thursday 19th April?

LMenz

10-04-2007, 12:57 PM

JoJoMart

10-04-2007, 01:59 PM

LMenz (Lauren) - I have been finding it hard to get on lately as we have electricians here today. The office is the only room I can safely BF (before topping up with formula.....a lengthy process) so luckily the computer is in that room!

Q. is Zantac like Mylanta? Liam sometimes acts like he has reflux or at least colic. We've been using Infants Friend from the chemist for colic and it helps a bit.

Penny - wow you are amazing finding the time to get online. It will be good to hear about your trip when you get back.......look after yourself so that you recover soon & have a good time. Glad to here the MIL is nice, what a bonus :yes:

I agree wih my_lot regarding BF. Liam is partially BF and its been a trial...he often falls asleep at the boob too which drags out feed times even longer. Those who are BF how long does a feed usually take?

Better go.......what a fantastic spring day in Melbourne today :)

Hels*Bels

10-04-2007, 02:10 PM

Roopee - Sounds like the holiday from hell :eek: Bet you're glad to be back home now.

Penny - Glad to hear you are safely in the UK now, hard to believe you are now some 10,000 miles away! Hope you had fun at the Roman Baths and Stonehenge, there's so much history to see in that area. I hope your voice returns soon too.
Please remind me again of what date you come back so we can organise the city meet around that.

Joanne - Poor thing having to BF in the office! It's awful having tradies in the house, you never know where to put yourself and feel like they are intruders. Must be worse with a baby too. I'm glad we had some painters here before I had bubs.

I am sooo tired today, I think I over did things yesterday as I did heaps of cleaning and then some work in the yard. Plus I couldn't sleep last night and my mind was going ten to the dozen :banghead:
I was supposed to go to the supermarket this arvo (with Reece) and it would be my first big weekly shop by myself. But now I can't be bothered so will go tomorrow instead. I should really get off here and go for a lie down whilst my little man is sleeping :rolleyes:

LMenz

10-04-2007, 02:23 PM

Q. is Zantac like Mylanta? Liam sometimes acts like he has reflux or at least colic. We've been using Infants Friend from the chemist for colic and it helps a bit.

Those who are BF how long does a feed usually take?

Yep...I think it's very similar. I've been using Infant's Friend too as Jack gulps so much when he feeds he often gets wind.

Jack's feed's now take a max of 20 minutes, although it's often 10 just depending on how hungry he is. He's still mostly having one side per feed...although in the evening I will offer him the other just to top him up for bed.

When he was only a few weeks old feeds were taking over an hour...but now he's bigger and more efficient at draining the breast he's really quick. I'm glad too cos it makes feeding him more enjoyable.

Hels - I hope you can get that nap :)

SuperFrog

10-04-2007, 04:15 PM

I've finally got some time to do personals!

Roopee - I had a read in the other thread about your MIL. I would have had a go at her too! Some people are so out of touch with reality. I've got no time for people like that.

Icugal - Glad to hear that the travelling is going well. Can't believe that you are still managing to keep in touch! Hope you are feeling much better soon.

Hels*Bels - Are you referring to the big melbourne city meet or the little suburbs meet?

1st T.M.I. Melb - Your username is quite long! Do you have a short-hand version that you prefer? I've also had tradies at my house. Basically I just ignore them and feed wherever I want. It's my house after all, and so far I haven't had any leering at me. Breastfeeding boobs just aren't as sexy as regular boobs. Regarding feeding, Liam usually takes around 10 minutes each side, with a quick burping in between. Lately he has been taking a little longer as I think he is having a growth spurt, so my milk supply is changing a bit to keep up.

Me - I finally managed to get some nice photos of Liam smiling today... and hence have changed my avatar pic. Here's a bigger version of the pic.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/superfrog1976/Liam10_04_07A.jpg

I've also worked out a good system to do personals... I'm typing it up in a small word window with bubhub open in the background. Easy to scroll around and type what I want, then paste it as a new post and hey presto!

My MIL is bugging me at the moment. She is so nice and generous and helpful. TOO nice and generous and helpful. Her latest helping is to take all of my dirty washing when I wasn't looking and launder it at her place. I'm not happy about this. Invasion of personal space. Big time. Also, she keeps buying so many clothes for Liam, which I do appreciate, but so far I haven't bought him a single item. And she remembers what she bought and always asks if he has worn them. For once I'd like to dress him in something that I have chosen. I'm not sure how to approach her about these issues as she is so helpful and will get offended really easily. Has happened before early on. Any suggestions on handling this are welcome.

icugal

10-04-2007, 06:34 PM

I promise I'll stop being selfish and will promise to do personals at another time, but first another quickie (I am "checking my email" again of course :) ).

Hels - I'm coming back 23rd April

It's weird seeing the times of the posts because I'm now 9 hours behind you all. Your day is ending and ours is just beginning... this whole overseas thing just does my head in :)

We went shopping for more baby formula yesterday and over here they have pre-made UHT-type formula packs... kind of like buying a fruit juice Prima IYKWIM. I haven't seen these in Melbourne, so we bought a couple as we figured that they'd be good for travelling.

I'd better get off the computer otherwise my MIL might start thinking bad of me :)

I'll be back ;)

Hels*Bels

10-04-2007, 07:54 PM

Superfrog - I was referring to the meet at my place which was originally for this thursday but now is on the 19th. We haven't set a date yet for the City meet, I'm still waiting for more suggestions on places to go. But that one will be after the 23rd April so Penny can attend. Sorry for all the confusion!
I don't have any advice about your MIL as I would be rapped if mine did all my washing and bought all of R's clothes! But I know where you're coming from. I would put Liam in them once and then sell them on eBay :devil6:
Love the photo of Liam's smile too.

Penny - That formula sounds good, hopefully the change won't upset K's tummy :fingerscrossed:

Gotta go and do the mummy thing as DH is feeling crook tonight and R is unsettled. I can hear him screaming in the background :rolleyes:

harleyq

10-04-2007, 09:34 PM

Mimslilpunk - thanks for thinking of me and my cold!!! Oh and good on you for putting yourself first for once - l am in awe that you thought to spare everyone else and took Billy for a drive...

Squiggles - thanks for the thought & for the Kiwi tip, l am feeling heaps better now, but l think l will start on the kiwis tomorrow for good measure!!!

Let's do a City meet sometime during the week commencing 23rd April. Suggestions please on which day, where to meet and whether to have lunch somewhere so we can book it first? Anyone know of a suitable place? or we could meet at Crown and work it out from there? Please post your suggestions and preferences here or PM me. Sounds good to me - I have immunisations on the Monday but any other time should be good...

Liam has also discovered his voice this week and has started making noises like a conversation. ...
Does anyone elses baby sneeze heaps?
Isn' the cooing just the cutest thing??? and yes Coen also sneezes heaps...

I have said to my DF a few times that I want to go on a date and spend some real time together and sometimes I just want to say to him "can you pay attention to me instead of the baby??""!! and then I feel like I am being selfish. Its so hard adjusting to a new addition and keeping your relationship going with sleep deprivation, etc...

Me - Well I have had a really sh!t week. Olivia has been feeding badly and crying lots and I have been feeling really down. I know this sounds pathetic but I have been really insecure that she likes my partner more than me - I feel the same about the date & attn, l have been dropping all these hints that l want dh to book our romntic dinner (we got it as a pressie) anyway he has done nothing... so today l let him have it directly...
How is everthing going now with Olivia??? I agree w Hels re. the milk thing... l still sometimes get a little peeved when it happens...

MIL - I'm so uncomfortable with mine.....my inlaws are way too keen which annoys me as they are already making comments......like the other day my FIL asked if I had Liam on the bottle yet because he reckons he's too skinny and I've been BF him and FF him but it's none of their business as they aren't the parents. What a pain inlaws are don't you think! My MIL also wants to hold and comfort Liam a lot and I think she thinks she's the bees knees who can settle all babies.......:mad: this made me smile, l could have been me writing it (exceot FIL stuff - he's not a prob) - my mil won't let me near my own baby when she's around... she even goes as far as to say. "no your not hungry", cos she knows it is the one thing that she cannot possibly do - it ANNOYS me!! So you have all my sympathy - but no solutions unfortunately -- but if you find any please do share!!!

LMENZ - glad to hear you and DH are friends again :-) and congratulations on the sleeping 9 hours - l'm a little jealous - not of the sore boobs though, Coen slept 6 hours in a row the other day and ouch... and l was so paranoid about mastitis that l just couldn't relax the whole day!!!

Those who are BF how long does a feed usually take?
Its wierd, just when l think it is predictable it changes... it was only 10-15 min. - one side only per feed... but l have just finished a 25 min. stint on the right, ten minute break followed by a 10 min. stint on the left - so who knows??? he gets as much as he wants..

penny - l am in awe - l haven't had a moment to spare, how are you managing to checkin whilst overseas??? Glad to hear all is going well with Kaelan... sorry to hear about the cold, there seems to be a few of us struck down - hope your getting better...

me - easter was good, we had a BBQ with our friends (about 20 people) - it was great, everyone was so understanding, they all brought a plate and helped with cleaning up -- l really enjoyed it -- l didn't place too much pressure on myself to make things perfect for once - and it was a smart move...

Oh guess what??? My cousin (very close), had her baby this afternoon (by C-section) - it was a little girl Olivia Jane, when she rang me l hear little Olivia's faint little cry in the background - they were just about to negotiate there first feed - oh wow did it take me back!!! This is her first too so she has a big few weeks ahead of her - I am soooooo happy for her & l am an AUNTIE!!! well kinda - l am going to see her tomorrow!!! I am so excited - l am sure l have forgotten how little they are when they are newborn already (and Coen is only 6 weeks!!!) - But Coen is a little chubba chump - can you believe he has put on 1.7 kg since coming home?
Okay had better head off, after lecturing my DH about spending time with me - l have just ignored him for the last 90 minutes... Can't wait to hook up with the Melb. group some time soon...Lets do it at my place after the City hookup!!!
Have a great night gals - I have missed you (wow l think we will need to have a new disorder recognised -- Bubhub withdrawals!!! - characterised by pining, jittery behaviour and sneaking off to the computer...)

shelby

11-04-2007, 08:07 AM

I feel the same about the date & attn, l have been dropping all these hints that l want dh to book our romntic dinner (we got it as a pressie) anyway he has done nothing... so today l let him have it directly...
How is everthing going now with Olivia??? I agree w Hels re. the milk thing... l still sometimes get a little peeved when it happens...

Oh guess what??? My cousin (very close), had her baby this afternoon (by C-section) - it was a little girl Olivia Jane, when she rang me l hear little Olivia's faint little cry in the background - they were just about to negotiate there first feed - oh wow did it take me back!!! This is her first too so she has a big few weeks ahead of her - I am soooooo happy for her & l am an AUNTIE!!! well kinda - l am going to see her tomorrow!!! I am so excited - l am sure l have forgotten how little they are when they are newborn already (and Coen is only 6 weeks!!!) - But Coen is a little chubba chump - can you believe he has put on 1.7 kg since coming home?
Okay had better head off, after lecturing my DH about spending time with me - l have just ignored him for the last 90 minutes... Can't wait to hook up with the Melb. group some time soon...Lets do it at my place after the City hookup!!!
Have a great night gals - I have missed you (wow l think we will need to have a new disorder recognised -- Bubhub withdrawals!!! - characterised by pining, jittery behaviour and sneaking off to the computer...)

things have been a bit better after 5 days of non stop screaming and hell - the poor thing she seemed like she was in so much pain and for once even my DF couldnt comfort her, which totally threw him. We ended up taking her to the docs and then a paedetrician yesterday ($250 later, ouch) and he diagnosed her with colic. We are both really relieved that its nothing more serious and felt a bit silly but better to be safe than sorry.

Congrats to your cousin!! You'll have to tell her she chose a great name - we also called ours Olivia Jane....!!

re Breastfeeding time - she usually takes about 10 mins for the night feeds and 15-20 for the day feeds and this is one side only- I usually offer her the breast 3-4 times with burping breaks.

Thanks for your reassurance LMenz and Hels..... Im feeling a bit better now after a rough weekend.

LMenz - The doc I saw yesterday ruled out reflux which is good... I have to say yesterday and today she has been much better and feeding really well - so whatever it is seems to have disappeared on its own:fingerscrossed:

have a great day eveyone

harleyq

11-04-2007, 09:04 AM

Thats terrific news Shelby!!!
Going to see Little Olivia at 2pm - l am sooooo excited!

Butterflymumma

11-04-2007, 09:36 AM

Hey Ladies!!

WARNING LONG POST- as i've been gone and have alot to catch up on Sorry!!

I've been MIA for a little while so firstly i hope everyone had a fantastic easter and enjoyed their yummy choccies!

Okay im going to do personals so sorry if its old news for some of you!

shelby- thanks for asking about my ex and vacc issues, Lil still isnt due until after this saturday but im going to go ahead with it despite his protests. My mothers instict says do it, so im going to listen to that because its usually right! Re: strangers talking to you about your bubs, i get this too and its so nice, it really makes you feel proud when someone stops to ohh and ahh over your precious bundle of joy! Re: your Dp getting attention from bubs and her crying with you, this happened to me with my mum for some time, i thought i was doing something wrong, but i agree with Hels, its because we are the ones that feed them etc and i assumed that she could 'smell' the breastmilk on me, hang in there now my lil one stops crying when in my arms and cry's in everyone elses when she's unsettled! you are such a wonderful woman and mum, your little one will appreciate everything you do, soon enough you'll see those stars in bubs eyes when looking at you!!

Sassi- I hope your BP gets better soon and Im not sure if you've gone yet but have fun in Hawaii- so exciting!!

Icugal- WOW stonehenge??? I'm so so excited for you!! that sounds so spectacular, can you take some pics and post them?? I hope you and your family enjoy the rest of your holiday!!

Leashie- I'm so happy to hear little Marissa is home and safe and sound. You sound like you've been through a lot but to be so strong, i look up to you!! Many hugs to you!!

Lmenz- I hope Jacks reflux is improving. Re: Chilli peppers concert, i read your post and knew exactly how you felt!! I wanted to go to a festival with JBT, Xavier rudd etc but it was out in the hot sun all day and i was 32 weeks pregnant and didnt want to risk heat stroke etc so it was a very miserable week for me!! I hope just for you that the chilli peppers come back to aus for another tour and u can go!

Squiggles- Sounds like you had a big day at the hospital with your bubs!!! sorry to hear about the ezema and dermatitis!! i hope it clears up soon!!

Juzzy- I'm glad to hear you are feeling better after that post where you felt a bit down, just rememeber you are not a failure in anyway, to carry a beautiful baby to birth is amazing in its own, then to have a ceasar and emergency one at that- wow that takes so much strength hun, you are amazing and you will continue to be a fantastic mum through cassidy's whole life!!

My_lot- Glad to hear you had fun on your holiday!! Those pics were great!!! thanks for sharing!! Also congrats to your mum for winning for her craft work!!

mumslilspunk- I hope things have improved for you sinse that day when your dp didnt want to help because he was sleeping!! Sometimes it helps to just get out and get away for a bit, glad to hear you got a bit of sleep in that time!! And i hope your Dp realised how amazing you are to do what you do!

Hels Bels- thats terrible that you've been sick with a migrane!! i hope that doesnt happen to you again! it sounded really bad!! Hugs!

nearly there...

Superfrog- I know what you mean about using cloth nappies as spew cloths, they work a treat dont they!? I was intending on doing the whole cloth thing but just find its so time consuming and affects the enviroment just as much if not worse atm cause of the drought so im pleased to have a use for them!!

Roopee- I hope Cody feels better soon with her cold and btw you are DEFINITLEY NOT a bad mum for Formula feeding and should never feel guilty!!! My bubs just had a cold and is mostly b/f so it cant be that, its just the weather and even the best of us get sick at this time!! I take my hat off to you Tan, You are just so amazing to have gone through what you went through with your first, never look back, your bubs are getting exactly what they need and the cherry on the cake is a happy mum!!

ziggy29- How are you?? how is Lily?? I hope your both well!! Missing you and your posts :)

Weight- im slowly, slowly losing a kilo here and there, still got about 4 kg's to lose, and get rid of my tum tum, but for now im pretty happy with how things are!

Okay phew...glad i got through that!!! Just a quick update on how we're doing over here. Well Lillyana is doing great, gowing and growing and smiling at me so much!! i dont want to jinx myself but she's been going to bed around 6.30ish and sleeping usually to between 1.30 and 3am!! its great to get a few hours in between of good sleep and i feel like a new woman each day with more energy to do things!! I think its due to a formula top up just before a relaxing bath, change of nappy and into warm clothes and a bit of relaxing music and rocking and boom she's out of it! She's also found her thumb :eek: something i was trying to avoid, but find she just spits the dummy now LOL mind the pun and shoves her thumb in her mouth instead! ahh what can you do? feels like im fighting a losing battle with that one! Im feeling really happy and at peace at the moment, finially realised i dont actually have to sit and take my ex's c*** and so am now just enjoying spending everyday with my gorgeous daughter!!

Okay well Take care all,

luv BM xx

Roopee

11-04-2007, 10:44 AM

Hello ladies! Sorry its been a couple of day but been reading here and there just not posting too much- i just get to write a reply and then one of the kids needs something (gotta love these school holidays) so it gets thrown out the window and forgotten. Sorry again.

I know im not a bad mum for not b/f but sometimes i cant help but wonder if i had of done it would she have still got sick? The answer is probably yes but i cant help but wonder.
I do know that by bottlefeeding her i hve done thee best for both of us- im not much use if im in the local mental asylum.

icugal- good to hear Kaelan is behaving and charming all the il's! Sounds like your having great time over there!

shelby- glad things are looking up for you. I hope Olivia is feeling better. I hear colic is quite painfull for little ones so you did the right thing taking her to the paed.

butterflymumma- Im glad your listening to your instincts about the vax. When its all said and done- you are lilly's primary caregiver so you have to do whats best for the two of you. Tell him if he wants to make potentially life changing decisions on someones behalf to get a dog but to leave you to it. If he hasnt shown an interest in you or Lilly in ages- well he left his rights (morally) at the door when he walked out!:hugs: to you!

my_lot congrats to your mum on her win!
How was the flight home? Hope the kids behaved for you!
Riley is still talking about your DS4-asking when he will get to play again! Oh and i have to say i am loving your pics in your sig- i think i laughed for a good 10 minutes- thanks for that-i needed it!

leashie- how is Marissa now? I hope she's feeling better now. You must be relieved to have her home again.

us-Cody is slowly getting better- she slept from 9.30pm to 8am two nights ago! God it felt good!
We're off for another week of (hopefully) sun at the beach from Saturday. NO in laws this time but we will see my mum while were up there. My nanna too will get to meet Cody. I remeber when i was little i used to love snuggling on nans lap with my head on her massive boobs and her big nanna arms around me. My kids have all been the same with her so i hope Cody is too!
Riley asked me this mornig if Nanny-Ed will be there and when i said yes he came out with this pearler " will she be bringing her boobs mum?" Errrr, yes, they will also be coming:laughing:

Anyway- enough from me!
talk soon xxoo

Nina79

11-04-2007, 10:44 AM

Morning! I too have been having bubhub withdrawals but I'd like to add poor hygiene to the list as I should be using this time to shower and make myself less scary!

[quote=harleyq;1322553]Coen slept 6 hours in a row the other day and ... it was only 10-15 min. - one side only per feed... but l have just finished a 25 min. stint on the right, ten minute break followed by a 10 min. stint on the left - so who knows???

But Coen is a little chubba chump - can you believe he has put on 1.7 kg since coming home? quote]

Harleyq - our boys are in-sync, which is understandable because they were born on the same day. Last night ryan slept from 10 til 3:45am, fed well for 15 mins and went down to sleep til 7:30am. Bliss! He had such a grizzly day yesterday that I really needed a break... He has also put on about 1.7kg in six weeks and now weighs 5.3kgs (birth weight was 3.56kg). Chubby bubbies! I too am proud of myself and sticking at feeding when I hear that he is thriving.

I haven't got much advice for you re. the MIL. Mine is similar - she will say "Won't mummy feed you??" when Ryan is crying in her arms but then isn't very forthcoming at handing him over - even when I've got my boob out (am left hanging in the breeze *LOL*).

Penny you crack me up sneaking onto bubhub while on holiday!! :laughing:

BTW, Should we confirm a Brisbane picnic meet for next week if that's still convenient? How about the 18th at Southbank? I think some of the groovy gals from the Jan thread would also be keen. Ziggy, Mrs P, Leashie, Butterflymumma you in? Anyone else? We could make it the week after if the 18th is too soon.

I would love to type more but he is now crying :thumbsdown: - will be back later...

Have a great day xo

my_lot

11-04-2007, 11:13 AM

are any of the brissy mummas going to the baby show?

i will be~ can we do a meet up around the days that its on so i can join you?

Nina79

11-04-2007, 11:17 AM

Sounds good!! Would love to meet you and Eli!! :) When is it on?

my_lot

11-04-2007, 11:47 AM

i think it was july, last year~ i oh was so so so sick. the kids had a great time tho, dp was bored sh!tless and i spent most of the time pukin my guts up!

see why im so looking forward to it this time!:laughing:

now ive probably jinxed myself for another pukin' good time! i was just telling dp this morning that i feel pregnant!

LMenz

11-04-2007, 11:55 AM

Lmenz- I hope Jacks reflux is improving. Re: Chilli peppers concert, i read your post and knew exactly how you felt!! I wanted to go to a festival with JBT, Xavier rudd etc but it was out in the hot sun all day and i was 32 weeks pregnant and didnt want to risk heat stroke etc so it was a very miserable week for me!! I hope just for you that the chilli peppers come back to aus for another tour and u can go!

Thanks! I hope they come back soon too.....better not be when I have my next baby!

I'm so glad your feeling better about things. I really admire you doing it all on your own...Well Done! :D

Harleyq - Congrats to your cousin. Hope the visit goes well. It will be great for Coen to have another playmate so close in age.

Shelby - That's great things have sorted out with Olivia. I've heard colic can be painful....

Roopee - I love your story about your nan and her boobs. My nan was exactly the same...it's lovely to have those memories.

Me: Saw the MCHN today and Jack has gained almost a kilo in 4 weeks!! He's also grown 3 cm's. She told me I should be waking him during the night for a feed..what do you guys think? I figure if he's hungry he'll wake up. Plus to be a bit selfish I'm loving the extra sleep :devil6:

Better go Jack is finally asleep and I'm a starving marvin.....catch ya later!

LMenz

11-04-2007, 11:57 AM

i was just telling dp this morning that i feel pregnant!

:eek: :eek: :eek:

my_lot

11-04-2007, 11:57 AM

Brisbane

VENUE The Brisbane Convention & Exhibition Centre, South Bank
About the Brisbane Convention and Exhibition Centre

DATES Friday 6 - Sunday 8 July 2007^
TIMES Friday 10am - 4pm (last admission 3pm)
Saturday and Sunday 10am - 5pm (last admission 4pm)

ADMISSION Adults: $14 Pensioners: $10* Children under 14: FREE

and they have the dorothy the dinosaur show this year.

ill bring ds too then he will enjoy that

Nina79

11-04-2007, 12:43 PM

:eek: :eek: :eek:

She took the words out of my mouth!! Wow!

I can't really remember what it felt like to be pregnant now - other than knowing that I was uncomfortable in the last 5-6 weeks... I look at pregnant women at the shops and think "how bizarre" - six weeks ago that was me! :confused:

my_lot

11-04-2007, 01:21 PM

i know it must sound so odd that i made dp get the snip snip and now im saying that little line like its nothing!

i knew i didnt want another in a few years time and i didnt want to stress about contraception or it happening just as i go off to work outside the family business (my wish) we decided to get the snip and then leave contraception to breastfeeding and mother nature...if it happens its meant to be if not then thats ok and we are happy with what we have.

the first signs for me (before im due) have always been feeling sick, being very tired and sore boobs.

im breastfeeding so i wouldnt feel sore boobs now that i have the human vacuum attaching every three hours!! and im always tired and the black rings are now my trademark look.:laughing:

i was on holiday when i started to feel sick. i thought it was just the stink of our smelly hire car but its still hitting me now we are home....and its this that made me comment to dp on it.

i stopped the post birth bleeding after 10 days... but a few weeks ago i went 8 hours without feeding and then bled for 4 days... 8 hours no breastfeeding is enough to kick off the cycle.

so ill wait another week or two i think and then get a blood test.....

JoJoMart

11-04-2007, 01:55 PM

Superfrog - my username is long.....I will try and change it I think as I've had a few comments about it. Re: your MIL.....no real advice I'm afraid. They are way too keen don't you think! Maybe you could nicely say something along the lines of "you've been so helpful washing etc but please don't feel you have to do this". It's harder being upfront with the MIL than your own mother!

Harleyq - your MIL sounds a bit like mine.......don't you wish you could say "back off he's my child not yours!" Arggggghhhhh.

LMenz - that's interesting your MCHN said you should wake Jack at night for a feed. I was told to wake Liam during the day for a feed if he had gone 4 hours but at night can let him have one longer stretch eg 5-6 hours between a feed (but only once).

Roopee - there's always that question hanging over bottle fed mum's head about their baby's health and resistence to colds etc but I don't think you should worry. Like a lot of people say you can't tell which kids have been BF or FF when they grow up.......saying that I still think BF is ideal that's why I'm trying to do both BF & FF because I can't exclusively BF Liam.

Hels - I hope you aren't so tired today.

Me - Liam has been SO unsettled today it isn't funny. He's been going through a growth spurt or something and WILL NOT SLEEP and is hungry more often. It's totally worn me out I hope he sleeps a lot tonight.

Have a great avo/evening :)

JoJoMart

11-04-2007, 02:09 PM

Squiggles - how did you change your username?? I can't seem to work this out :detective:

Nina79

11-04-2007, 02:39 PM

Squiggles - how did you change your username?? I can't seem to work this out :detective:

Hi - I did this too by emailing the administrator (I think I went thru "how to") and they manually changed it... :D I wanted just "Nina" but it was already taken so I had to make it Nina79...

LMenz

11-04-2007, 03:06 PM

my_lot - You must be super fertile......How would you feel about another baby so soon?

Jack's still asleep....looks like last week may have been a phase of not sleeping. I hope this long nap during the day continues...it's nice to have a few hours to myself. I even nodded off on the couch :D

For those of you having trouble with keeping your bubs wrapped at night I bought this great wrap the other day...it's just like a mini straight jacket. It has velcro bits to keep those hands in place. I got it at urban baby. I've found Jack wakes less when he can't get his arms out and whack himself in the face

Have a great night lovely ladies x

Hels*Bels

11-04-2007, 04:09 PM

HarleyQ - Congrats to your cousin on the birth of her baby girl. Now Coen will have another play mate.

Shelby - What did the Paed recommended for Olivia's colic? Glad you have got to the bottom of it, I hope she settles down soon for you.
My bub is the opposite to yours and he is a real mummie's boy. Sometimes this can be just as hard as I try to pass him to DH to give me a break and he cries until I take him back. I also feel sorry for my DH when R does this.

Butterflymumma - Nice to hear from you and good to hear things are going well with Lillyana. I'm not sure what's worse... the dummy or the thumb! I suppose they are gonna suck on something anyways :rolleyes: Good for you for going ahead with the needles. Let me tell you, it's harder on the mum to watch it happen but deep down you know it has to be done. I gave R some panadol after a feed before he went for his needles and there were no problems or side effects here :thumbsup:

Roopee - LOL at Nanny-Ed and her boobs! Hope you have a nice time at the beach, you lucky things!

LMenz - Great weight gain for Jack, he is doing really well. No way would I be waking bubs in the night for a feed! :laughing: buggar that idea, sleep is waaaaay more important in this household and like you said, they would wake if hungry!! Anyway, it's not like Jack is underfed or under achieving at all.

My_Lot - The suspense is gonna kill me, how long until you test? I couldn't imagine having another bub until next year at the earliest. The thought of it scares the $hit out of me!

Us - We had an unsettled night, Reece normally goes straight to sleep but he was crying a bit so I gave him his dummy (which he doesn't normally have at night). Then he woke at 1.30am so I gave him the dummy again. He finally woke at 4.30am for his feed. Then only slept for another 3 hours. Also, he didn't do an no #2 at all yesterday so he could have had some tummy pain if he was trying to go. Hopefully he will be better tonight :fingerscrossed:

We went to the supermarket this arvo, it's the first time I have done a full weekly shop by myself since he was born. I put him in one of those trolleys with a baby seat. He has enough head control to sit in one now. I wrap him in a blanket which keeps him comfy, away from any germs and also gives him a bit more support. He was really good and slept for most of the time.

ziggy29

11-04-2007, 05:25 PM

Oh my god my internet was down and then i have been away for easter so i had about 100 posts to catch up on. Sorry i missed the bris meet nina - i was getting ready to go away so wouldnt have been able to come even if i had known about it.

About the meet up - i am free on the 18th but not the 19th for the picinic.

Lmenz - lily is on another medicine (losec). it took 7 days to have any effect but now it has really helped. the reflux gets worst when she gets over excited or too stimukated.

Shelby - olivia really loves you. there is no one in the world as special as your mother. even people with abusive, heroin addicted mothers still love them!! (that was meant to be reassuring). it sounds like you are sleep deprived and stressed and olivia may be picking up on that. i know that lily crys when ever i yell or stress out.

some of the replies are from ages ago - will post more personals when i have caught up with the other posts.

would love to know if anyone else is trying to establish a daily routine and if you are having any success.

harleyq

11-04-2007, 07:23 PM

Butterflymumma � l agree with Roopee on the dog comment �Tell him if he wants to make potentially life changing decisions on someone�s behalf to get a dog but to leave you to it. If he hasn�t shown an interest in you or Lilly in ages- well he left his rights (morally) at the door when he walked out� do you think you�ll use it???? Might be a bit cheeky

Lauren � Why on earth would you wake Jack during the night when he is positively thriving on what you are doing now??? Did the MCHN give a good reason???

myLot � are we crossing our fingers that you are or aren�t pregnant??? J
Joanne- Liam�s story sounds a bit like Coen�s and given they were born about the same time that probably is to be expected, do you think it�s the 6 week growth spurt we�ve heard some of the other mummies talk about? In any case l hope it got better for you after your post

Thanks all for the congrats on Olivia Ashlee (Coen�s new cousin) l went to see her today and she is just gorgeous, but soooooooooo tiny (just slightly smaller than Coen was when he was born at 41 weeks and she was born at 38 weeks) but compared to Coen now she looks so tiny � l can�t believe Coen was that tiny� how quickly we forget, and it was only 6 weeks ago!!!! Has any body else experienced this???

Coen is doing so much better now that l am reading his tired signs earlier � and guess what? L now have some time to myself � well to do the cleaning and cooking anyway � he is still feeding 2 hourly, so l can�t get too enthusiastic about doing too much � but l am just sooo happy to have some time, any time to do something for myself (like get in here)!!!

tazzystone

11-04-2007, 07:48 PM

Hey harleyq, my little girl Jacey Lee was also born on the 26th and she was 3.78kg!! he he just thought I would mention it. She was due in march but arrived a week early. I have stayed with my March mummies group but thought I would pop on in here occasionally. Hope you guys dont mind. :-)

Squiggles

11-04-2007, 08:43 PM

Squiggles - how did you change your username?? I can't seem to work this out :detective:

Just click on the Contact Us button at the bottom of the page and you can send a msg to Admin - there is s drop down menu and you just need to check that the new username you have chosen hasn't already been taken.

Ladies, I am copping out on most of the personals - I just can't keep up. I feel bad because I had my whinge a while back about thinking no one wanted to respond to me after I changed my username but now I realise its just too hard to follow. I do have to say thought that some of you do an absolutley stirling job of it! Im just in la la land by the end of the day when I get a chance to get on here and I cant seem to get my brain to follow along with you all!

Penny - Do yourself a favour and if you get a chance in Bath - behind the Roman Bath's in the square, off to the side of the cathedral is an awsome fudge shop - pig out on the stuff, its one of my most fav fudge shops! yum yum yum

my_lot

11-04-2007, 09:16 PM

sh!t i just lost my whole post.

bugger that im going to bed!

SuperFrog

11-04-2007, 09:36 PM

**Long post alert**

I'm just hanging out at the moment, waiting for Liam to wake up for his last feed. Eventually i will wake him if need be, but thought I'd bide my time with some personals. Much more enjoyable than doing all those dishes in my sink!

harley q - What do you call your cousin's baby in relation to you? Second cousin? My cousin had 3 kids and decided to try for one more... and had triplets! So at the time she had 6 kids under 6. :eek: They live in Sydney so I don't see them too often, but I've heard that it is one chaotic household. I call them my second cousins but I've always wondered if that is correct.
Feeding every two hours seems very often. Are you coping with this okay? Have you tried stretching Coen out for a little more than this? Sometimes I think that Liam is hungry but often he will settle with a dummy and sleep for an hour or two. Not all babies take a dummy though. I was originally against using one but I'm converted now! I'm sure you know your baby best though... as long as you aren't tiring yourself out.

shelby - I don't know much about colic, but it must be good to have it diagnosed. There is nothing worse than not knowing what the problem is.

butterflymumma - At least Lillyana is co-ordinated enough to find her thumb. Liam has managed to find his hand, but not his thumb yet, so he tries to shove his whole fist in his mouth!

roopee - So, does Nanny-Ed have exceptionally large boobs, or just large to a four-year-old?? How funny!

nina - my MIL leaves me "hanging in the breeze" sometimes too. Very frustrating... and cold! She just doesn't want to put him down and is convinced that she can sing to him, rock him and pat him to soothe him at any time. Jeez... the kid is starving... hand him over!

my_lot - I nearly fell over when i read that you thought you might be pregnant again. Should we be cheering you on for a big YES or NO?? Things aren't feeling 100% for me "downstairs" yet, so there is no action happening on that front! DH has been very understanding. Poor guy.

lmenz - Sounds like odd advice to wake Jack for a feed during the night. I used to wake Liam for regular feeds for the first week or two because of my gestational diabetes and his jaundice. Now I try not to let him go more than 4 or 5 hours during the day and however long at night. Lately he usually falls asleep early in the evening so I wake him for a late feed around 11pm. But that's because I know he will then sleep through until about 8am giving me a decent sleep! How selfish of me.

1st time M in M - My MCHN told me to expect a big growth spurt at 3 months, give or take a few weeks. Maybe you have hit this with Liam early?

hels*bels - in regards to the lack of a #2... for the past two weeks Liam will only have poos every 2 or 3 days. And boy oh boy do you want to be home to catch it when it comes! I ended up covered in it the other day as it overflowed the nappy, soaked through his clothes, a towel, then through my clothes to my bra. Eeewwww! Liam is BF and I've been told that a baby can't get constipated being 100% BF and that I shouldn't worry about the gap between. It's been 3 days since our last one so I'm just waiting now. Will wear something old tomorrow! Delightful conversation hey?

ziggy - Liam has started to fall into a routine now, but this has been a natural progression really. He's always been a fairly regular feeder though so I don't think it is really a forced routine, if you know what I mean. I think you need to find a routine that works in with your timetable. I prefer to stay up late and get up late, so a late last feed works really well for me.

tazzystone - welcome aboard! My bub was born in January but I decided to stick with my original Feb bunch. Maybe I should pop into the Jan mums and say hi as well.

Okay, enough from me for one day. Have a good night everyone!

LMenz

12-04-2007, 07:10 AM

RE: MCHN - She told me that 8-9 hours was too long for a baby of Jack's age to go without a feed....well better not tell her he slept for 10 hours straight last night..HeHeHe!! When she said it I just nooded my head and smiled. NO WAY will I be waking him up! If he's hungry he will let me know. It's not the regular nurse..she's on holidays. Be glad when she gets back.

Hels - Well Done on getting the shopping done by yourself. I've yet to do this with Jack (too scared :D ) Maybe it could be my goal for next week.....and thanks for the PM

tazzystone - Welcome :wave:

Squiggles - Don't worry about the lack of personals....it's still good to hear how you and Connor are doing

Harleyq- It's great you have a bit more time to yourself.....It can be so hard to recognise the tired signs in little bubs...I still miss them sometimes with Jack. I've PMed you too :)

SuperFrog - OMG the poo!!! I know exactly what you mean! Jack hadn't been for 4 days so yesterday I had 3 BIG sticky nappies full!! YUCK!!

Ziggy - I was wondering how you have been....Glad to hear Lily is doing well on the Losec. Jack has a semi routine. I'm being guided by him most days and it seems to have a pattern to it. Mostly it's still based on the sleep/play/feed routine but it does get mixed up a bit. He sleeps generally from 7pm-4.30am feeds and is back down for a nap. He will just cat nap from then until 12ish (I go out in the morning if I have to) then he has a big sleep for 2-3 hours. After that it's just a short nap again before a bath and a feed and then bed....Seems to be working atm. I'm loving how long he sleeps at night but am prepared for it to change as I've read that can often happen. It suits me now to be guided by Jack although I do manipulated his feeds occasionally if I have something to do.

The little man is soundly sleeping....better have a shower

Roopee

12-04-2007, 07:40 AM

tazzystone- a big welcome to you! Of course its fine if you want to hang out at our place!! The more the merrier!

my-lot- OMG OMG!!!!! Well i know you would dearly love another one(there one thing we DO NOT have in common lol) so im going to wish you luck that its a BFP for you!! You go girl! BUT dont expect me to keep up so this one of yours has a playmate in NSW:laughing:.

superfrog haha, nanny-Ed has massive massive bazookas! To a four year old looking up at her i'm not sure if he would even be able to see her face:laughing: Probably attributed to the fact that she is very overweight but we love her like that.

Lmenz- errrrr, no way in hell would i be waking my child to feed him either! Geez, how old was this !d!ot? Sounds like she comes direct from the stoneage. Its not like he isnt thriving without the night feed- dont worry about her. Sometimes i used to find that MCHN's are alot like midwives- their adice differs greatly. Take the advice you like, use it and throw the rest out the window!

harleyq- congrats on the baby. i know what you mean regarding the kids sizes. Its amazing how fast they grow isnt it. Sort of sad too. The saying "they wont be babies forever" is most definately a true one.

us- well DH has his "snip" next Thursday!!! He is NOT looking forward to it at all but i for some sick reason, everytime he mentions it, i cant help but laugh- poor man. I cant help it, he is very very nervous and thinks he will be laid up for days on end. God help me when he has it done and milks me for all the sympathy he can get.

I would also like to know, if anyone feels like sharing some wisdom- how do you quote a PART of a post? Just a small bit? I dont know how to do it and its driving me NUTS!

The kids are all good- Cody sleeping like an angel and she's much more aware of her surroundings now. She lays on the floor, babbling and cooing, and laughing at her toys and siblings. How cute!

SuperFrog

12-04-2007, 07:58 AM

I would also like to know, if anyone feels like sharing some wisdom- how do you quote a PART of a post? Just a small bit? I dont know how to do it and its driving me NUTS!

I'm not sure if this is the right way, but I press the quote button, and then delete any text I don't need from within the quote tags. Works like a charm!

NoMoreScuba

12-04-2007, 08:17 AM

Penny - Do yourself a favour and if you get a chance in Bath - behind the Roman Bath's in the square, off to the side of the cathedral is an awsome fudge shop - pig out on the stuff, its one of my most fav fudge shops! yum yum yum

I agree! I was there when i was back in the uk last year and i LOVE fudge. Definitely worth a visit.

So much to catch up on in here. It sounds like we're all doing great! Isn't it amazing how quickly the time is going? I can't believe Charlie will be 8 weeks tomorrow - so grown up!

I need to book him in for his jabs next week i guess.

Charlie has been sleeping through from 10.30 until 6.30, but last night he surpassed himself and slept from his 7pm feed until 6am!!! I am in shock. LMenz, that's rubbish about waking jack up to feed him - if he's hungry he'll definitely wake up himself and let you know about it.

LMenz

12-04-2007, 08:28 AM

NoMoreScuba - 11 hours!! WOO HOO!! I can't believe either how time has flown....Jack is 8 weeks old today.

Only feels like yesterday we were all whinging about being fat and overdue :laughing:

LMenz

12-04-2007, 08:30 AM

I'm not sure if this is the right way, but I press the quote button, and then delete any text I don't need from within the quote tags. Works like a charm!

:thumbsup: And if you want to do multiple quotes press the button next to the quote one and it will light up red....

Hels*Bels

12-04-2007, 09:22 AM

We had an awesome night :smiliedance: R went 10pm - 6am and then 7am - 10am. I feel like a new woman! He is now lying on my bed gurgling away whilst watching 9am on TV lol.

When I got up to feed him at 6am I put him in his feeding cushion on the bed (next to DH) with a blanket as it was quite cold. I came back with his bottle 5 mins later and both baby and DH were sound asleep together, typical! :rolleyes: So I went back to the kitchen to have my bowl of Albran, (I am doing the 2 week challenge ;))

Have a great day everyone, back later with some personals :)

juzzy

12-04-2007, 10:05 AM

Hey guys!!

just a quick hello from me, just got back from a walk and Cassidy is asleep in the pram so need to be quick as need to shower as well!

I have decided that it is time for me to lose some weight, like serious weight! So i am going walking everyday for the moment (planning to join curves or something like that eventually) and had a makeover of our fridge and pantry yesterday. It has been fun so far so hopefully it keeps going!

DP gave me the motivation.... he said that if i lose weight we can start trying for #2.... so now i am determined.... im a woman on a mission over here! I want to have our babies close together in age so im set for aleast starting to try towards the end of the year. Wish me luck!

Anyone heard from my_lot? i'm dying to know if she's pregnant! The suspense is killing me!

Anyway must be off for the moment, might be back later! Hope everyone is having a good day!

Nina79

12-04-2007, 02:26 PM

Well it looks like the Brissie picnic meet is going ahead next Wed 18th from 11am. Please PM me for more details. (oops sorry, moderator) Consesus is to BYO or own lunch (keepin' it simple!).
:yelclap:

We'll def take some pics to share (to keep up with the glam Melb ladies!!)

So who's in?? :yes: So far ive got Cate, LukeandMattsMum (both very cool mummies from Jan thread), Ziggy29 and me. Would love it if others can join us also.. Mrs P? Butterflymumma? Anyone else? Feel free to bring a friend - the more the merrier!!

My_lot Your idea to combine a trip to the baby show with a meet in July is great - maybe our next outing can be tentatively sheduled for that day so we can meet you? :thumbsup:

Mariposa

12-04-2007, 04:01 PM

hi ladies, just a reminder that with all final details of a meet should be sent through pm's.

even non bubhub members can read through these threads.

cheers Maria

icugal

12-04-2007, 04:09 PM

Penny - Do yourself a favour and if you get a chance in Bath - behind the Roman Bath's in the square, off to the side of the cathedral is an awsome fudge shop - pig out on the stuff, its one of my most fav fudge shops! yum yum yum

We went into Bath on Monday but because of the Easter Long Weekend there were tourists everywhere !! I did happen to stumble upon the fudge shop you are talking about, but it was so crowded inside (and I had a baby attached to me) that I ended up walking out without buying anything... but my mouth sure did water while I was in there !! :D

So how are we all today?? I am feeling so good right now... It's currently just after 8am and Kaelan slept for *9 hours* last night... what a little treasure he is !! My flu has improved a bit. I finally have about 75% of my voice back (much to DF's disgust *LOL*) though I'm still way too reliant on tissues for my liking.

We are currently staying with DF's father in Wrington (?sp) which is just outside Bristol. Yesterday we did a quick visit into the center of Bristol and had a look at the S.S Great Britain which was apparently some hugely famous ship I know nothing about !! *LOL*

Today I think we're going to take a quick drive over the border to Wales... purely so that I can say I have been there. Then I think we're going to go shopping... which I'm totally hanging out for because we haven't really done any since leaving Melbourne. I forgot to bring an adaptor so that I can get photos off my xD card in my camera... so I'm hoping to buy one so that I can put some photos online. In the meantime, I guess I could put photos up from our other camera (digital SLR), so if I get a chance to do that I will.

I just have to say that we visited Stongehenge the other day and it was so cool !! I know that they are just rocks stuck in the ground in pretty patterns.... but they are pretty cool rocks !!

As Kaelan is too young to remember his trip overseas, we've started taking photos of him in front of various landmarks... we're calling it "Kaelan's Sleeping World Tour" :D We will put up a webpage soon of all the famous places that Kaelan has slept through *LOL*

Anyways, that's about it from me... DF's father has a much better internet set-up than at his mothers place, so if we can log onto the wireless network here with my laptop, I expect to be online a little more (at the moment I'm on FIL's desktop). It will also make it much easier for me to put some photos online.

Again, I'm sorry for not doing personals... once again it's all about me !!! I promise that once I can sit down and spend some quality time in front of the computer, I will try to respond to more of you.

:hugs: to you all and your gorgeous bubba's :)

Butterflymumma

12-04-2007, 04:26 PM

hello lovely ladies!

Nina- Thanks for letting us know about the brisbane meet up i am really hoping to be there but am still getting used to going out on my own with Lilly and sometimes it just gets to hard to get everything done etc, so if i dont turn up you know its because ive had a bad morning! But im going to try my hardest!! Im travelling from Caboolture area so i might be late so nina i will pm you if its ok for your number so i can call if im late. Also can i please have some suggestions from any of the bris gals as to what i should bring food wise?

Juzzy- Goodluck to you with your goals, Its great you are looking to conceive again at the end of the year how exciting that will be!!! You'll do great! :thumbsup:
Hels and No more scuba- :smiliedance: woohoo to having your bubs sleep so well!!! It is so lovely when they do that every now again its like they think 'i'll give mum a treat tonight and hold off for that feed!'

At the moment Lillyana goes to bed around 6-6.30 and usually sleeps till around 2ish on average, one night i thought id be smart and tried to do a dream feed at about 9ish to see if she would go longer and maybe sleep through till 6ish or something, but it backfired and she woke up every three hours!! this was a while back, do you think i should try again or just let her sleep through? my only reason for doing this is to maybe try and get her in a pattern that she sleeps through the night when i sleep because 6.30 is too early for me to go to bed...

just one more q's where is the thread that was posted of the melb meetup photos and other meet ups? have there been more sinse then that i might have missed? i cant find the place anymore!

Hope all are well, big hello to all those i didnt do a personal for!!!

Take care
xx

Nina79

12-04-2007, 04:42 PM

The pics are at (thanks again for posting them, penny):

http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=79909

I've PM'd you re the meet butterflymumma. I think we'll just bring our own food or buy it there now - keeps it simple.

harleyq

12-04-2007, 06:45 PM

Welcome tazzystone, great to hear about another baby born on the same date as Coen - and it does sound like they are developing together!!!
superfrog - officially l call Olivia (my cousins baby) 2nd cousin, but she is an only child and has always been like a sister to us so we'll just refer to her as cousin ... Oh my god, l can't believe after 3 kids your cousin trying for one more had triplets -- I guess there wasn't much she could do about it once they were conceived - but l don't think l could have handled it!!!
About Coen's feeding every two hours, it gets worse at night it about every 45 minutes, l didn't mind it cos it meant that he would sleep a whole 5 hours in a row at night... but the last two nights he has kept up the pattern of frequent feeds but woke every two hours for a feed -- I don't mind feeding him often during the days, but l don't know how long l can handle feeding him 2 hourly at night...
I have tried elongating his feeds but he screams like there is no tomorrow... it doesn't particularly phase me, but if anybody has any tips l would happily try them... oh and l have used the dummy on occassion, but it doesn't buy me that much time, it usually only works when he is screaming for food at the 90 minute mark and we can hold him off with the dummy until 2 hours... but then he has to have it!!!
I read about liam & Jack pooing every few days, Coen is still having at least 4 poos a day... l wonder what the difference is... they are all completely b'f aren't they??? Maybe my breastmilk doesn't taste as nice so he is trying to get it out as soon as possible??? :)
lmenz - happybirthday to Jack!!!
Juzzy - COngratulations on biting the bullet, it sounds like you have a goal and are really committed to it!!! Good on you! l need to find some motivation as well! One of the tricks l have found works for me (at least it did in the past) is cutting out Carbs (mainly pasta, rice, bread & potatoe) after 5pm... having it earlier in the day is fine... and drinking loads of water!!! I should be following my own advice on this...

thelma

12-04-2007, 06:59 PM

Hi Girls,
It has been about a month since i last posted, but i have been keeping up with the posts every week or so.
The photos of everyones bubs are fantastic. I hope you all ha a great time meeting up in person!
Elizabeth is 7 weeks old tomorrow and it has been alot harder than I thought it would be. She has quite bad colic or just plain wind alot and cries about 10 hours a day. But in the last week or so it is like somebody flicked a switch and she is much more responsive and alert. I even get lots of giggles from her when she is on the change table.
BF has been a breeze for me and I have lost all of the weight I put on whilst pregnant and then some. So that helps when i am having a bad day with bubs.
Karitane is coming next week and I have booked in for the residential stay for the end of May. It is only at Fairfiled so only a few suburbs away.
DH is away this week on his first business trip since Elizabeth was born. This is something that we will have to get used to though. So I am doing it solo untill tomorrow. Luckilly she loves a bath and it calms her down and helps her sleep and also gives me some of my sanity back.
Also reading the posts from everyone and listening to all of the difficulties that everyone has also helps me to cope during the day. Knowing that all the hard times are normal.
I will try and be more of a regular poster and get a bit more involved as Elizabeth calms down more and I get a bit more time to myself.
I hope you all had a great Easter.
xox Thelma

my_lot

12-04-2007, 08:46 PM

:wave: hi everyone :wave:

wow these are my first school holidays with a baby in a looong time! and i cant say its all fun and games!

on pregancy~ i will be thrilled with a pos result.

i know it must seem so odd that I sent dp off for the snip snip :o and now im saying this...i knew i didnt want another big gap and i wasnt sure how id cope having another so soon...and i really am happy with what i have and so blessed to have that fabulous VBAC...so it more or less came down to -i didnt want to stress about contraception any more- i react to hormone treatment and have to use latex free condoms and im just over it -so he had the snip...we decided to leave the rest to nature, breastfeeding and the snip kicking in, and be happy with the outcome either way..

a few weeks ago i went 8 hours without b/feeding and well thats enough to kick off the cycle...

so if its not meant to be then thats fine. i like the idea of having just eli at home next year when ds goes to school...and eventually working outside our family business...

ive had girly time with dds tonight. i took them out for dinner and a movie...and i let them pick the movie without my input. so i had to sit through a whole hour and a half of that boggly eyes id!ot - MR BEAN much to their delight..they know just how much i dont like him!:p but it was fun going out with no baby, pusher and ds taggin behind. it was geat to go to the ladies and not the parent room too. yep i feel really normal now...i only have try not to say TA for everything i buy.

i had my boy weighed the other day- 5.6kg. he is just a tank to hold!

my other son was 8lb at 3 months old! is this normal for them to just stack on the weight so quickly?

got to go feed my babe- funny how hes slept the whole time ive been out and now hes crying.

EskimoMumma

12-04-2007, 09:13 PM

my lot- dd1 is 13kilos. I cant wait till she is walking, I know she will always be solid and tall so im happy. I love chumba wumbas,less stress when they get sick as DS and DD1 are lanky and tall. Go figure.

Well guys I have been MIA, sorry about that, just been a little down lately but feel heaps better now. You know the jist, hormones still working themselves out, lack of sleep, keeping the house clean..

Today has just been an awesome day. Day started off well and come 11 DS was out playing with all the neighbourhood kids and I dont know how or when it happened but all 10 of them were in my house. and believe it or not, I LOVED IT! Made me want to have as many as I can :laughing:

So from 12 to 5pm my house and backyard was a nonstop playland. I felt like i was running a creche. I even did lunch, oh dear lol. BUt alex had an absolute ball, he really loved it and i hope every day is just as good for him, he deserves nothing less.Caitlinn handelled herself really well with it all! I think she quite enjoyed it. Mary did, she had so much attention and the kids didnt mind her chewing on the train set landscape peices hehehe.

Caitlinn has stopped sleeping through, so far shes into a week of it. I think thats why i was feeling down, and really unsupported and unloved by DP. On one hand its great being able to do it all on my own with him on graveyard and stuff, but on the other, i cant sleep in the bedroom anymore, its not the same without him(damn bedhog and farting, youdt hink i would enjoy the bed to myself lol). A few other issues that i cant discuss did it for me as well but I am much better now and will be sorting them out shortly. hmm what else..well maybe im cheering up because tomorrow is payday :D

I hope evryone is coping well, sure sounds like it! Isnt it amazing watching our bubbas grow! My neighbour across the road has an 7month old bubba, so gorgeous and I just cant wait for caitlinn to get to that stage.

Oh I also mowed the lawn, weeded the garden, cleaned up the mess and attacked the cobwebs that were around the house. It was great! Getting all sweaty and dirty, surprisingly it was all pretty easy as well.oh thats right, its because DP minded the girls the whole afternoon so i can play with alex and the kids and gardening :o

SuperFrog

12-04-2007, 09:22 PM

I read about liam & Jack pooing every few days, Coen is still having at least 4 poos a day... l wonder what the difference is... they are all completely b'f aren't they??? Maybe my breastmilk doesn't taste as nice so he is trying to get it out as soon as possible???

Yes, Liam is completely bf. This "poo pattern" only started at about 9-weeks old, so it could still happen with Coen. Haven't had the big explosion I expected today... looks like it will be old daggy clothes again for me tomorrow!

Liam did a gigantic spew after one of his feeds today. Even came out of his nose... he looked so surprised by it! Poor thing. Maybe breastmilk just doesn't taste nice, so babies try to get it out of them as quickly as possible, any way they can! I've tasted my milk, out of curiosity, and I'd much prefer a chocolate Big-M. :laughing:

Unfortunately I haven't got any advice on the frequent feeding. Does he calm down in the bath? Often I can gain 30 minutes or so with a strategically timed bath. Other times i think Liam is crying with hunger but can pick him up and go for a walk and a sing, and he falls asleep. He's a really good sleeper though, so this may not be helpful for you. Hopefully someone else will have some advice for you.

Liam is 11-weeks old today. I can't believe he is this old already, but I also can't imagine my life without him. What did I used to do with my time??

juzzy

12-04-2007, 09:22 PM

evening ladies

my_lot when are you going to do a test?

i already want to have another one but as i posted earlier id like to (DP would too) if i lost some weight first just so there isnt so much stress on my body and so the doctors dont nag me about my weight.... For the moment tho DP and i are using condoms as i get really hormonal and irrational when i use the pill... so if i get a BFP earlier well i guess it was meant to be! Hope you get the result you are looking for!

Oh and sounds like you had a really good night, despite watching Mr bean!

thelma - welcome back! Glad to hear that things are going well with Elizabeth!

sandy - thanks for the support... ive blown it already tho... lol... temptation for some cookies got the better of me... It the whole feeling the need to eat after bfing that is starting to kill me. Oh well tomorrow is another day and i am still determined enough to pull on my trainers and go for a walk tomorrow... Besides i am enjoying getting out of the house which is proving to be another motivation... there is only a limited amount of time i can spend looking at the same walls before i can feel insanity starting to creep up.

penny - glad to hear that you are enjoyin your holiday and am looking forward to seeing some pics!

heather - hope you are feeling better soon and that you sort out ur issues! Issues suck!

As for me... Cassidy had her immunisations yesterday... i dont think i have ever heard her scream so loud! She was not happy at all but did sleep well for the rest of the day after that. The poor girl had no idea what was coming her way, she was even giving beautiful gummy smiles to the nurses before they gave her the injections.

The last 2 days i have found that the only place (besides her cot, which she doesnt like to sleep in during the day) that she will sleep in is her pram. Is it bad for me to let her sleep in there? It does make it easier for me as i can wheel her around the house while i am doing things (not that my house is that big to start with) but should she be sleeping in there? She had her first nap of the day in there today for about 4.5 hours. And is asleep there now, im about to move her to her cot tho.

Tomorrow we have another visit to the CHN. Am interested to know what she weighs.

Finally had my 6 week check done (even tho Cassidy is 2 months old on Monday, LOL) did the pap smear and everything. Getting the results for that next week :fingerscrossed: i get the all clear, last time i had one it came back with abnormal results and i had to have surgery. Other than that spoke to the Doc about my breast feeding issues. She said that it is common after having mastitis to struggle to get milk supply to come back up. But said that i am still doing well. Cassidy is mainly breast fed but is having 2 bottles a day of formula. All her other feeds (4-5 feeds, are bf) i did feel guilt about giving her formula but after speaking to the Doc i think i have resolved my issues with bfing :yelclap:

Anyway, bubba is asleep so i am going to try and get a few hours in... She has gone to sleep early so no doubt i will be up again in a few hours...

Night!

Nina79

13-04-2007, 08:03 AM

Morning girls :wave:

A quick question from me before I dive into the shower...

Has anyone found that frozen breastmilk smells/tastes stronger than fresh? I only ask because last night I defrosted one of my glad snap lock bags but was too afraid to use the milk as it smelt very sour. I threw it away and defrosted another but it smells exactly the same! The smell is like fresh milk but much much stronger (I wouldn't drink it - I agree with Superfrog, give me a chocolate BigM anyday :D).

I'm pretty meticulous about freezing them fresh and all my bottles are rinsed and sterilized so I'm hoping this is normal??? Can anyone help me with this? I'm feeling a bit desperate as I've got bl88dy LITRES of the stuff frozen into baggies ready for when I go back to work. :( I don't want to have to throw it away if it's off but it's better than making Ryan sick.

Thank you - I really value you ladies and your wisdom!!

my_lot - here's hoping it's the result you want when you do take the test! (I love the latest new picture of eli too)

ziggy We missed you! Hope you had a good holiday - look forward to hearing about it on Wed.

Leashie - I've PM'd you to see if you and Marissa are up to coming.. otherwise maybe next time we can make it near you?

Juzzy - I'm letting Ryan sleep wherever he can during the day and putting him into his cot at night. This means during the afternoon (his only sleep) he is often in the car capsule, our bed or, like yesterday, his rocker. He doesn't settle to sleep in his cot during the day but goes like a lamb at 10pm and stays there through one or two feeds til 7am - go figure!! I'm not sure but I actually think it's helping him to differentiate day/night... I'd do whatever works for you (i.e. lets her sleep for the longest).

EskimoMumma - sounds like a great day yest with all those kids :hugs: for the other days you weren't feeling great.

Harleyq - Ryan was going 2.5-3 hrs between feeds last week (we were stretching him out) but this week has gone back to eating every 1.5 - 2 hrs. I think it's a growth spurt and possibly also because he's now sleeping for longer periods at night (dropped a feed). So for the time being, I'm going with it and then I'll slowly try to stretch him out again. Ziggy shared the secret of stretching them out to 3 hrs with me to get a more efficient feed and it is hard when they're screaming at you but does seem to work after a while. Hope you can get a break from the 45 minute stuff - makes leaving the house very hard, hey?

Speaking of which, he's about to yell for a feed any minute (can hear him working up to it) so I'd better go and at least get changed out of my PJs!

Have a great day girls - hard to believe it's Friday after a short but busy week! Wish me luck - I'm off to the dentist...eek.

Nina xo

ziggy29

13-04-2007, 08:50 AM

Oh my god huge post alert.

harleyq - i am in the process of stretching lily from 3 to 4 hrly feeds. i think you need to pick a time and not feed coen before that time no matter what. we did 3hrly as that was what we had to do for her reflux. at first he will be hungry but it wont harm him and within 24hrs you will both be heaps happier. if you leave him a bit longer between feeds then you will make more fattier hindmilk which will fill him up for longer. to extend lily i try putting her in the sling and walk around the block, singing, pram walks, and if desperate 30ml of cooled boiled water in a bottle (but only if it is like 1 hour till her next feed). i am not sure if the water is a good or bad idea??

thelma - wow it sounds like you have been coping really well with really stressful situation. congrats on losing all the weight and being a star breatfeeder

my lot - lily weighted in at 5kg at 10weeks yesterday. her weight gain has certainly slowed down but she looks healthy so i am not
going to worry yet (ok i am slightly worried)

eskimomumma - hope you have a another great day today. and if not at least you know that it is possible.

superfrog - lily has only stopping pooing contantly the last week too. now we are getting 2-3 a day.

juzzy - keep up the motivation. just dont buy anymore bad stuff and then you cant be tempted. good time for all the family to get healthy together (my dh put on a few kgs the last few months so we can try to be healthy together). my favorite healthy breatfeeding snack - yogurt, dried apricots, milo with skim milk, apple/pear, raw almonds, le snacks (one a day only).
on the exercise front i am out walking with lily a lot (often trying to shut her up for a minute) i have alse started to use the cross trainer 2 times week and do some step ups etc in the back yard. i am also trying a few pilates exercises a few times a week. i am starting to get some weight loss now (in combo with diet and bf) which helps the motivation.

nina - i defrosted one of my frozen milks and gave it to lily without smelling it. i am using the sterilised milk storage bags i bought from the pharmacy - i am not sure if that would make any difference. i'm sorry i cant be of much help.

me- so it is probably pretty obvious that i am feeling pretty upbeat at the moment. me and lily are having more good days than bad and more good nights than bad (no way she is close to sleeping through yet though).

she is getting more interactive and cute which is fun.

we had a few days away at the coast with my parents which was great to be looked after for a change. even went out with dh for the night and got drunk!!

lily has moved out of the bassinette and into the cot which she loves!!

i have lost 1.5 kgs over the last 4 weeks (horray) and feel 100% over the caesar and pregnancy. still have about 5 kgs to go but went shopping anyway and got jeans and tight tops and had fun (my husband says no guy is ever going to look past the bf boobies to comment on a flabby belly - lol).

I am almost ashamed to admit it but i am trying to put lily on a quite structured routine and i am having some slow success on some days. we start the day between 7-730 (she is usually awake waiting for me)and have first feed then. then feed 11am, around 230pm, 530 and top up just before bedtime at 7 -730pm. then dh does a dreamfeed at 1030 and then usually one night feed before we start again.
she sleeps about 2.5 and 1.5 in her cot, 1hr in pram walking and naps on me or in the sling another 1 or 2. at night sleeps about 5 hour stretches.

the problems with the routine are she can get a bit peeved if only has a short sleep and then cant eat for 2 hours (this is when she goes in the sling and i sing bananas in pjs 1000 times). i cant seem to keep her awake for more than 1hr 20 mins before she is exhausted. (by routine "book" suggests closer to 2 hrs awake - impossible).

the best thing is she is going to sleep really easily now. crying for a few minutes then just lies in her cot and drops her self off. i win this sleep battle 70% of the time and the rest of the time its patting, singing, pleading etc.

i said i am ashamed of trying the routine as i no a lot of people believe in just letting their babies set the pace. but she is eating and sleeping better and i feel slightly in control and that is very important for someone with a type a personality like myself. :yes:

Btw anyone else still getting engorged breasts from time to time - i had 2 days of it last week and it was so painful.

Hels*Bels

13-04-2007, 11:12 AM

HarleyQ - Re feeding times, the main thing is to try and determine if he is actually hungry or just unsettled. If he is unsettled, I find that distraction works well. Such as a bath (as previously mentioned), time on a play gym or rocker. Otherwise they get into the habit of "snacking". My MHN said to me that to break the habit you need to do the distraction method for a day or two and strictly feed only every 3-4 hours. It could be 2 days of hell and screaming but eventually Coen will learn the pattern and break the snacking cycle. He should also feed for longer too and thus filling himself up which helps break it aswell. I hope this helps.
I just read Ziggy's post and what she said is spot on too.

Juzzy - I know how hard it is to resist the naughty foods. I have been stuffing my face with Easter eggs everyday, I have no idea why I bought a heap more at half price the other day :banghead:
Good for you for walking everyday. I agree, it's great to get out of the house and I find that bubs settles better at night if he's had some fresh air.
Reece sleeps in his pram during the day too. I do the same as you and wheel him around the house with me or out to the washing line etc. He drops off to sleep when he wants to. I see no problem with it as he is laying down and comfy. I reckon go with whatever works for you. No point trying to force a cranky baby in his/her cot if they don't want to be there!
I hope you can make it to the meet next thurs at my house? It will be nice to catch up again and this time you can sit back and relax :p

EskimoMumma - Nice to see you back and I was just wondering where you had got to. I hope you can deal with your issues soon aswell, those damn hormones suck don't they? lol.
Hopefully you can make it to the meet next thurs aswell? then we can help to cheer you up :)

Nina - I would speak to a lactation consultant or ring the ABA about the frozen breastmilk, they are the experts so should be able to tell you.

Ziggy - Well done on the weightloss and for sticking to a routine. We have a routine here too which makes life easier.

Us - Reece went 10pm to 5.30am but then only slept for another hour! But he went back to sleep in his pram later. We went shopping again yesterday and I bought some more clothes for me and R in the sales. I got 6 items for $44 so I was pretty pleased with that!
Will take him for a walk this arvo down to the lake, it's a nice sunny day again in Melb.

harleyq

13-04-2007, 12:24 PM

Thelma - Oh Thelma that must have been so hard on you and your dp, l am so glad for you that the �switch� has been turned on/off and you are able to enjoy Elizabeth a lot more� You will find yourself a new person when you do start getting time to yourself � l know l only started getting some me time about a week ago � and it has made such a difference to both Coen and l � we are a lot more pleasant to be around�

My_lot - then hope for a positive result we do!!! What is it about Mr. Bean??? DH�s young cousins (3 of them ranging in age from 10 to 5) were hanging to see it too � he is annoying !!! As for Eli and his weight gain � they say you cannot overfeed a breastfed baby, and Coen weighed 5.14kg at 5 � weeks � he had put on double the average amount of weight but the nurse was happy with his progress (and frankly so am l!!!) it means they are thriving� she also said that it will all even out at about 3 months or so� Your mention of Eli being like a tank reminds me of how l felt when l picked up Olivia (1 day old) earlier in the week � she is 3.6 kg and l felt like l was holding a featherweight � then l glanced at my darling little boy who looked like a giant � and wondered when all that growing took place (Coen was born at 3.68kg as well)!!! I will never fail to be amazed at these little people � l mean the fact that Coen grew 1.5 cm in 3 weeks � who does that???

Eskimomumma � I am with you on the chumba wumbas � l also thought at least my little one has some room to move if we have difficulty feeding for a couple of days� I am glad your feeling better � it�s a bit like a rollercoaster isn�t it??? And the less sleep you get the worse it is� Its also pretty amazing the effect getting a few things done has on your whole psyche (at least that is what l find), whether its getting out of the house, or cleaning your house/gardening etc. it kinda puts some normalacy back into the world and l don�t know but you feel like you are contributing to the world again � does that resonate with anyone else?

Superfrog - Yeah your right Coen is a bit younger than both Jack & Liam so it could still happen � and come to think of it he is going a little less regularly than he was (prev. about 8 times a day)� these days he rarely goes at night � and l get a massive deposit in the morning � it leaked through his nappy this morning � oh � maybe l shouldn�t give those daggy clothes away� save them for the poo days do you think??? � Oh l forgot Liam and l share a birthday� he will love that birthday as he gets older (always followed by a public holiday)!!! 11 weeks � it goes quickly doesn�t it?

Juzzy � Don�t worry l get ravenously hungry after breastfeeding and l go looking for whatever is quickest to shovel into my mouth � so my plan (will start today) is to make sure its healthy foods that are within easy reach � l think l might go and put the panetone (Italian Easter cake � and oh so yummy) up on a shelf that l can�t reach without a ladder) � when l was at work l would pack heaps of fruit to eat etc� now that l am at home l am not eating much of it� not sure why � biscuits, hedgehog, chocolate, Turkish delight, panetone all much easier to pop in the mouth � LAZY LAZY ME!!! And the thing is � l don�t feel good having a bigger ar*e than normal, not being able to fit into some of my clothes right or having a flabby tummy so l really should just knuckle down�

Nina � how long have you had the breast milk stored for? Does your freezer have a separate door? Do you know what temperature it is??? I have only defrosted one of my little baggies, and l can�t say l noticed it having a strong odour� but DH deals mostly with the expressed stuff � l just asked him and he said he can�t remember � Sorry� but if your following the sterilizing procedures and your storing it correctly (why l asked the initial questions) l wouldn�t think there would be a problem�

I have a little request � any chance everyone can put the dates of their babies birth�s in their signature � its great when reading the posts to work out how old the children are in relation to Coen and see what l have coming up etc.

Okay so l am trying to heed everyones advice and stretch out Coen�s feeds to every three hours � we made it with the last one � but l spend 1 full hour listening to and singing kiddy songs whilst dancing with Coen in my arms � l hope it gets easier� his feed seemed to be for the same amount of time as it would have with a 2 hour gap � so now l have to keep myself occupied until 2.55 he is asleep for now � l wanted to go for a walk but l don�t know how he is going to go on this 2nd 3 hour stint so l will just stick around home for now l think � how long did it take those of you who are b�fing who stretched out your feeds???

Ziggy � So glad that you are feeling so great Ziggy!!! it looks like we will be going through this together � you 3-4 hours, me 2-3�. It will give me a whole heap more freedom which would be nice�Thanks for the advice� I only ever feed Coen on one breast at each feed (unless we are going for longer than 35 min. �which has only happened twice) so l think he gets the hindmilk (4 hours btwn feeding on that particular breast) � but hopefully he will just make his feeds a bit longer, or suck a bit harder --- its probably just a habit that we�ve gotten ourselves into� I am hanging on to the 24 hours you mentioned � 24 hours of pain for a world of gain� J Oh and congratulations on your weight loss / health plan � I am getting really frustrated with myself � l want to lose the additional weight l am carrying (2 kg) � but each time l go for a walk l pay for it the next few days with a really sore coccyx � then l get sad L and am tempted to just snack all day (although l am able to stop that impulse � mostly � carrying water with me all the time helps..) If l knew for sure that l wasn�t doing any further damage / slowing down the recovery l would do the exercise anyway � l am going to ask my OB at our appt. on Monday!

Oh Ziggy � quick question � can l ask why you are stretching the feeds out to 4 hourly??? Was it recommended to you or do you just feel that you and Lily are ready for the next step? Just interested � l guess if l know 4 hourly is my end game l can work towards that � ever so slowly� anybody else who is b�f l would be interested to hear how often you are feeding as well�

Oh and on the engorged breasts � yeah l am getting them occasionally � l ended up expressing the other day cos l was worried about mastitis� Coen also slept most of the night last night with a wake up at 3.30 and another at 7.00 so my (.)(.) were very full this morning (particularly because the two nights proceeding he was waking up 2 hourly � which was way too frequent!!)

juzzy

13-04-2007, 12:33 PM

Afternoon everyone

Where is everyone this afternoon? LOL everyone is out having a life except for me!!

Just got back from the CHN. Cassidy has put on 660 grams in 2 weeks :eek: so since birth she has put on a almost 2 kilos! And she has grown 8.5 cms since birth (from 49cms to 57.5) I cant believe how much bigger she is!

Also starting my mothers group on Monday. Should be interesting to say the least. I dont know if i am going to fit in... and am concerned that i am going to be the youngest person there as well! Somerville isnt very big so who knows how many people will be there...

as for routines - Cassidy has slowly developed her own which i have been happy to let her do. The only thing i really pushed was trying to get her into bed before midnight which wasnt too hard just slowly bought her last feed earlier over the space of a week or so. I dont see a problem with trying to make a baby have a routine.

Hels - yeah i will try to get to the meet on Thursday, i may need to go to the doctor on thursday as well depending on the results of my pap smear. Also where did you go to get Reece those clothes for $44? I need to get Cassidy some new suits and have been looking for some bargains....

ziggy - i have found that Cassidy will cry before going to sleep as well. Even if i do pick up on the tired signs and try to settle her immediately she will still cry a bit before dropping off to sleep. Also with the engorged boobs, I get it every morning as Cassidy rarely BFs during the night, some mornings it can be quite painful and as soon as she starts to cry i start dripping like a tap....

anyway im off... Cassidy is still napping (on the couch this time, not the pram, pram is still in the car) so i need to do some housework... I am so amazed at how quickly i can do things now... LOL....

harleyq

13-04-2007, 12:42 PM

Its been 2 hours almost to the minute... and my bub is crying... will power Sandy... will power~!!!

ziggy29

13-04-2007, 12:42 PM

harleyq - i am trying the 4 hourly feeds because on the 3 hourly feeds lily was taking an hour for a feed (5 mins then 20 mins later 5 mins etc). she was pulling off and hitting me and screaming a lot of the time. it was driving me insane. then two of my close friends seperarely told me that they have their babies in a 4 hourly routine (all breast fed and one girl has twins) and they said their babies went from devils to angels. so i thought i would give it a go too. i have a book by tizzie hall called save our sleep which has given me some ideas and i am going to see her talk next week as well so i will let you know if she seemed good or just a crack pot!

good luck with stretching the feeds - you can do it. can anyone help you out with this over the weekend?? i know it will really help in the long run. and dont worry if you have to give in occassionally. as long as you win most of the time he will get the idea.

as far as the fractured coxxyx goes maybe you should try some swimming or deep water aerobics (gently). or go see a physio and get a pilates program. unfortuately the pain can be terrible so i really feel for you. but you need to get as strong as possible in the pelvic floor and deep tummy and butt muscles to take the pressure off the affected area. i would think that you might need to get a bit stronger first before you push the walking or impact exercise.

hels - good work on the shopping. did you get some items for yourself too?

Squiggles

13-04-2007, 01:23 PM

Hi All,

Just trying to type quickly before the little man decides to wake up.

Routines - Yup we have one here too and it works so well... well for me and Connor anyway - DH is yet to follow suit and can throw us out of whack pretty easily. We have first feed of the morning normally about 7:30ish then we have a cuddle and then Connor goes on his playmat for about 15 mins while I have a quick shower and try and scoff some cereal down. He then goes into his bouncer chair in the lounge room on his own with his lullaby CD on and settles himself for a sleep. Feed again around 10:30 then he gets carted around from room to room in his chair again with me while I try and get housework done - or I use this time of the day to go out where ever we need to or give him a bath etc. Middle of the day can be unpredictable but by 4:30 again he has a feed then we go for a walk in the pram with the dogs (in the paddocks... its like pram 4wding! glad no one can see us, must look a sight!) for around half an hour. Then back into the lounge room in his chair with the lullaby CD on again. 7pm his last feed and then he goes in his bassinet and normally goes through til around 3 or 4am!!!

Juzzy - Im on a diet too. Trying not to stuff my face with chocolate or chips or pieces of cake. Did the shopping this week and only bought fruit and veg. NO snacks!! Im not BF but still expressing a few times a day and find I get hungry after that. I normally have a magnum ice cream every night (bad huh) with DH when we sit down and watch TV after dinner -to stop myself wanting one I have gone and used really strong mouthwash (savacol) which leaves a really gross mouthwashy taste in my mouth for a few hours and therefore the choc tastes really bad. Good luck, hopefully we can motivate eachother.

.... Im now typing with Connor next to me in his chair screaming because he woke up and I brought him in with me and Brodie (or German Shep) decided to give him a massive "Hello, wanna play" lick on the face.:banghead:

my_lot - I can't wait to know if you are preggers again!!!! Not on the agenda in this house for a while as sex still hasn't happened since I was given the all clear from my Ob a couple of weeks ago. Im having a hard time getting over the psychological barriers that come with severe tearing... Im frightened to have sex again. Poor DH is going out of his mind. My Ob suggested a night on the booze should sort me out! :laughing:

Ziggy _ I think Connor needs to move into his cot, he is almost too big for the bassinet now. Did you phase it in gradually with a few naps in the day or just plonk Lily in there and not keep using the bassinet?

Pooing babies - I cant believe some of you have bubbas that poo more than once a day. Connor struggles to do one every few days. Although he is now having coloxyl drops to help him (his were really really hard) and he is getting more regular now. Interestingly the coloxyl drops are choc and caramel flavoured - you add them to the formula... so like choccy Big M's!!!:laughing:

Well Little fatty is in a size 00 jumpsuit today and he is only 5.3kgs. Its a little big for him still but he has grown out of a lot of his 000 stuff. Its weird he has some Pumpkin patch stuff and some Esprit stuff which says for 0 - 3 months and he has outgrown them and yet he has a few pairs of 0000 pants from good old K -mart which fit perfectly. Weird sizing.

Like Ziggy and Lily, Im finding that Connor is much more interactive now. Im getting a lot of smiles and he tries to have little conversations with me. Its gorgeous. DH has been singing that song that goes "In the jungle the mighty jungle the lion sleeps tonight... a wim a way a wim a way" and Connor goes mental he smiles from ear to ear and the arms start moving. Does anyone know what song it is and who its by I was thinking I might buy the CD for him to listen to. Im over listening to this Disney cr*p!!!

Roopee

13-04-2007, 01:47 PM

Ok so we're off on another little holiday in the morning for some more surfing, swimming and 4wdriving (the car better not get scratched lol).

While im away i hope you all have a great week with lots of sleep and calm days!

I'll have no internet while were away so i'll see you lovely ladies on Friday!!

Eskimomumma- Chin up hun! I hope your feeling great by the time i get back- you never know, i might just set up msn when i get home so we can have the chat you wanted to have the other night:hugs:.
my_lot- if you test while im away PLEASE txt me!!:hugs:

Hels*Bels

13-04-2007, 02:07 PM

Juzzy and Ziggy - I got most of my bargains from Kmart and Best and Less. Kmart has currently got 25% off all clothes including babies. I bought 4 cheap tops for myself as I needed a size bigger (until I lose some more weight). And I bought 3 all-in-one suits in size 000 for R for wearing around the house. I don't spend alot on his clothes either as he seems to grow out of them in a couple of weeks :rolleyes: Just about everything I bought was $9.95 before the 25% discount. Now I feel like a real cheapskate :laughing:

HarleyQ - I had another thought after reading your last post, why don't you try feeding on both boobs each time? It might be another way to help stretch out the feeds, worth a try perhaps? Also, a tip they gave me in hospital was to do a nappy change half way through each side. Helps to wake bubs up and it used to work for me when I was BF'ing (which feels like ages ago now!)

Squiggles - Does your basinette come off the stand? If so, they recommend putting the basinette inside the cot for a few nights to help get bubs used to the new surroundings. If this isn't an option for you, maybe try a couple of daytime sleeps in the cot first? I am thinking about trying the same thing too shortly.
I remember that song, it's called "The lion sleeps tonight" and was a hit back in the 80's I think (showing my age here lol). If I remember the name of the band I'll let you know. You could try googling the song title?

Roopee - Have a great trip away!

Penny - Where are you now and what exciting things have you been doing over there?

How does everyone do breakfast? Do you feed bubs first and then have something for yourself? I can't do that or I get too starving. So bubs sits in the pram in the kitchen watching me prepare his milk and 2 bits of toast for myself, which I eat one-handed whilst giving him his bottle. Amazing how we learn to juggle things, isn't it? :laughing:

SuperFrog

13-04-2007, 03:04 PM

Hels - Why does the ticker thing in your signature say 14 days until 1st birthday? I know they are growing up quickly but I'm sure it's not that quick!

Feeding at the moment so typing is frustratingly slow. Will have to come back again and post later, but know that I am lurking!

icugal

13-04-2007, 03:56 PM

Hi girlies !!

Missing you all heaps... wish you could all be with me over here... or at the very least, be in the same time zone *LOL*

Well, we're still in Bristol with FIL, however we will be going back to MIL's house in Bath today... which means no more convenient internet access for me (will still try to long on though). I'm not really looking forward to going back to Bath... only because MIL and her husband smoke constantly inside the house and I feel like I'm suffocating (and I'm an ex-smoker). I can't imagine how awful it is for Kaelan !! Since I've been in Bristol in a non-smoking house, my flu/cold has cleared up considerably (though not totally gone) and my 10 week old son no longer reeks of cigarette smoke. We only have to put up with it for a couple more days I guess...

We went out for lunch yesterday at a Garden Center in Worcester and OH MY GOD... BEST FOOD EVER !!! I told the girls working behind the counter that I was going to smuggle them back to Australia with me :D

(You should see my two boys at the moment.. I'm currently in bed with the laptop and DF and Kaelan are both asleep next to me... so, so cute !!)

Anyways, I've put a few photos online... and will endeavour to put more up sometime soon.

Kaelan visiting Hong Kong (http://www.penny-clark.com/temp/hongkong1.jpg)
Bath (http://www.penny-clark.com/temp/bath1.jpg)
The Roman Baths (http://www.penny-clark.com/temp/bath2.jpg)
Stonehenge (http://www.penny-clark.com/temp/stonehenge1.jpg)
The suspension bridge in Bristol (http://www.penny-clark.com/temp/bristol1.jpg)

Talk soon.

harleyq

13-04-2007, 04:08 PM

Ziggy � thanks for the advice � you will all be very proud of me l have now had 2 x 3 hours feed cycles� both times at the two hour mark he started screaming- l put on some kiddy music and danced with him for 45 minutes which seemed to quieten him down � but geez am l exhausted (and a little sore)� l had to have a little nap with him this arvo� but we�re getting there� l just hope the next one is a little easier� he had a good half hour feed this last time�

Squiggles - I have been putting Coen in his cot during the day for a good few weeks now �l had to do it because l haven�t been wrapping him during the day (too warm) and he kept waking himself up by hitting his fists on the sides of the bassinet � he had no problems with the transition � whilst l haven�t tried it at night yet � l wouldn�t imagine we�ll have too much problems � perhaps you could try Connor in the cot for a few day time sleeps first??? And you might want to make sure he goes to bed awake the first few times at least so he doesn�t get frightened waking up in a strange place.

Isn�t it annoying how all the clothes are different sizes � l am referring here particularly to the babies clothes.. but its just the same for everyone really � don�t you find it embarrassing when you walk into a store saying you�re a � size 8 � they look you up and down as if to say who are you kidding, and you get their size 8 and can�t even get one leg into it� then you walk into the next store stating you�re a size 10 and in their clothes you�re a size 8 or 6!!! It pi**es me off, frankly l don�t care what size l am l would just like to know what size it is and let it be uniform across all brands/shops etc. (sorry for the whinge)!!!
That song by the way is called �The lion sleeps tonight� and its Written by George David Weiss, Hugo Peretti, and Luigi Creatore, Performed by Lebo M.; see http://www.lionking.org/lyrics/ROTPL/LionSleeps.html (http://www.lionking.org/lyrics/ROTPL/LionSleeps.html) for lyrics... I have been singing Coen that song from three men and a baby �goodnight sweet heart well its time to go� goodnight sweet heart well its time to go� l hate to leave you baby, l don�t mean maybe, because l love you so�.� And Coen has the same reaction and 9/10 will go to sleep right away� but that big smile that he gives me just melts my heart and l want to pick him and cuddle him so tight� but l resist � cos sleep is so much more crucial to my mental health!!!

Hels � like you l don�t spend much on Coen�s clothes � for exactly the same reason, they grow out of them soooooooooo quickly� don�t feel guilty� also like you l bought some cheap tops for myself (Target)� l just need clothes that facilitate b�fing.. most of my old tops would emphasise just how big my (.)(.) have gotten, and l would rather downplay them� l can�t wait till l am done having kids, l am already on the list for a boob reduction!!!
Oh and thanks for the tips� l do do a nappy change partway through our feeds� l have to, Coen relaxes so much during a feed he usually does massive farts and well we all know what can go along with those� it does wake him up � l am having less of an issue with him falling asleep on the boob (this used to be a real problem for me) these days� l think now is the perfect time to be trying to stretch out his feeds in all honesty cos l think his tummy has stretched a bit� beforehand l don�t think the little tyke could handle more than a 20 minute feed� the once or twice he had it he threw it back up� as of this weeks he has had a couple of marathon stints, 35 min and 45 min. and that�s pure sucking (not total feeding time)� I have enough milk in one boob not to need to switch to the other (l never run out)� l wonder if that is the case is there any reason to switch half way to the other boob??? I like to try and empty one as much as possible� On breakfast� if l feed in bed then that�s okay but if l have to get up then like you l need food right away� so l have been having a hot cross bun every morning while he feeds and then having a proper b�fst later if need be� now that hot cross buns are gone l will have to have toast l think� poor Coen is used to having my crumbs in his hair� but l can�t help it � its that or risk feinting!!!

I am going to see little Olivia again tonight � she is now 3 days old� my poor cousin has one bleeding nipple already so is expressing (the other one wasn�t producing any colostrum so she wasn�t feeding on it)�her milk came in today � it brings back so many memories� they only got 1 hour sleep the night before last and a couple last night � l am so glad that l am able to decipher Coen�s cries a bit better now � those first few nights in hospital when he was crying and we didn�t know why or how to help him were just horrid� we still have times when we don�t know how to settle him � but now we�re more confident that we can work through it� I have to share this story with you all� this same cousin and l went for a drive together about two weeks ago (she would have been 8+ months pregnant)� It was an hour drive and Coen cried for 3 minutes (l timed it, cos l let him cry for awhile and then will pull over if it goes on too long�) anyway my cousin went on and on about how Coen hates the car and cried all the way!!! 3 minutes of an hour drive� l got a bit ****ed off, cos l thought he was bl**dy good, especially since he then slept through our 2 hour lunch etc., anyway l secretly thought to myself � you have a lot to learn � l didn�t wish a difficult baby on her (at all) but l thought every baby has unsettled periods� if your not prepared for that you are going to find things very difficult� I am guessing she won�t think Coen�s 3 monutes cry so bad any more -- is it nasty of me to feel a teensy bit satisfied???

Oops there goes Coen, catch up later� have a good night all

harleyq

13-04-2007, 04:10 PM

Gotta be quick... poor Kaelan on the smoke, so glad your having a great time!!! Keep healthy!!!

Hi girlies !!

Missing you all heaps... wish you could all be with me over here... or at the very least, be in the same time zone *LOL*

Well, we're still in Bristol with FIL, however we will be going back to MIL's house in Bath today... which means no more convenient internet access for me (will still try to long on though). I'm not really looking forward to going back to Bath... only because MIL and her husband smoke constantly inside the house and I feel like I'm suffocating (and I'm an ex-smoker). I can't imagine how awful it is for Kaelan !! Since I've been in Bristol in a non-smoking house, my flu/cold has cleared up considerably (though not totally gone) and my 10 week old son no longer reeks of cigarette smoke. We only have to put up with it for a couple more days I guess...

We went out for lunch yesterday at a Garden Center in Worcester and OH MY GOD... BEST FOOD EVER !!! I told the girls working behind the counter that I was going to smuggle them back to Australia with me :D

(You should see my two boys at the moment.. I'm currently in bed with the laptop and DF and Kaelan are both asleep next to me... so, so cute !!)

Anyways, I've put a few photos online... and will endeavour to put more up sometime soon.

Kaelan visiting Hong Kong (http://www.penny-clark.com/temp/hongkong1.jpg)
Bath (http://www.penny-clark.com/temp/bath1.jpg)
The Roman Baths (http://www.penny-clark.com/temp/bath2.jpg)
Stonehenge (http://www.penny-clark.com/temp/stonehenge1.jpg)
The suspension bridge in Bristol (http://www.penny-clark.com/temp/bristol1.jpg)

Talk soon.

Hels*Bels

13-04-2007, 06:38 PM

Penny - I think you are very tolerant putting up with the smoking. If it was me I would have to say something. There's bubs health to think of aswell as an increase in the risk of SIDS. Sorry, I don't mean to worry you. I used to get cranky when people smoked around me when I was PG! I think it is a definite no no :no:
The photos are great and bring back memories!

HarleyQ - Well done on managing to space out the feeds today :yelclap: There is a reason that they suggest feeding on both sides but I've forgotten what it is lol. I do know that when I switched to doing it that way it helped settle bubs for longer. But it was short lived as I ended up having to give R formula top-ups before putting him on formula full-time.
I don't think you are being nasty towards your cousin and her new bub. Some people have no idea until they have one of their own, I expect we were all guilty of that too. I have friends who are expecting #1 in about 8 weeks and I think they are gonna be in for a big surprise!
It used to annoy me that when R was about 4 weeks old he gave the odd smile and they insisted it was only wind, as if they would know! :banghead:

Superfrog - I have no idea what is up with my ticker! I can't see it on this laptop as it comes up with an x so I'll check it out when I'm back on the desktop PC again, thanks.

icugal

13-04-2007, 07:12 PM

We're just leaving for Bath now..

Hels - Believe me, I'm stressing over the smoke and SIDS connection. I really wish I could say something, but these two have been chain-smoking inside for years. I don't feel as though it is my place to say something to them, purely because they've paid for our ticket over there. MIL already mentions about her other DIL complaining about smoking, so I'm not going to start on her about it.

I don't like it... but that's how it is unfortunately. We're only over here another few days, so it is only temporary.

LMenz

13-04-2007, 07:54 PM

OMG....I'm gone for a day and there is so much to catch up on!

Been out at highpoint most of the day with my mum....Target is having a sale so picked up a few tops for myself and of course a few tops for Jack

my_lot - I've got my fingers crossed for a positive...how exciting! Jack also weighs 5.6kg's.... I think it's great that Eli is putting on so much weight. I feel really proud that Jack is doing so well with me breastfeeding - It's a real achievment!

Harleyq - Well Done on stretching out Coen's feeds...It is tough but will definetly be worth it in the end. One thing I do in the evening is to feed him in 2-2.5 hours or if it's been 3 I will offer him both sides. It seems to tank him up for a longer sleep at night.

Hels - Best and Less have the best kids clothes...I love their stuff!! :thumbsup: I'm a frequent shopper there.

Squiggles - I'm with you on the "no sex thing". I haven't had my 6 week check up yet so I'm currently using that as my excuse (poor poor DH :laughing: )...plus I'm terrified of getting pregnant again. Even though I'm going on the mini pill I really worry now that it could fail...No more bubbies for me for a while

Eskimomumma - Hang in there :hugs: Hormones suck..mine are still very up and down. Well done on having all those kids at your place...Your a super mum!!

Penny - Sounds like your having loads of fun! Shame about the smoke but I agree it would be hard to say something...my mum smokes (outside) and I hate her even holding Jack after a ciggarette. I loved the pic of Kaelan in Hong Kong

Juzzy - Don't be too hard on yourself about losing weight..it's only been 2 months! I don't expect to be fully back to normal for at least 6 months. Your doing a great job!

I'm beat...gonna head to bed. Hope everyone else is well - sorry if I missed anyone, will catch up tomorrow.

Sweet dreams to all :)

Hels*Bels

13-04-2007, 08:13 PM

Penny - :yes: I see where you are coming from, it would be awkward to say something in light of their generosity. It's a shame though that some people are not more educated on the harm it can do. I was in the same position myself being in a room full of smokers when I was PG and not one person gave two hoots! I didn't say anything either at the time.
So where are you off to next after you leave MIL's? and is it really cold over there? Have you tried the pommie chocolate yet? it is to die for :D can you bring me back a bar of cadburys dairy milk please???? :p

thelma

14-04-2007, 09:03 AM

Morning girls,
There certainly is alot happening in here lately..
Routines - Elizabeth is slowly getting into a routine. Three hour feeds are becoming quite regular now but she will not sleep in her cot during the day. If I put her in there i only get about 25 minutes out of her but if she is in her rocker in the lounge room with all the noise I can get about an hour or so.

She has only gained about a kilo and a bit since leaving hospital and she is 7 weeks and 4.8kgs. She seems to have grown alot but does not have any rolls on her legs or arms so she may have just gotten longer rather than wider.

I have her on the bf pillow in front of the PC and she is quote content to feed while I catch up in here.

I bought a sling last week and it arrived yesterday. I got it from Nurturesling.com.au
Only $35 icnl postage. Bubs loves it and sleeps the whole time she is in there.

icugal - Kaelan is georgeous..what a view from up there.

LMenz , Squiggles - I have my check up next week..I am running a bit late..but I am still bleeding slightly so I have been putting DH off as well. I am a bit worried about it still hapenning at 7 1/2 weeks as I thought it was supposed to stop at about 6.

HarleyQ - I agree with Hels...try changing the nappy half way through..works for me too. However if E wakes up about 4am it may as well be the middle of the day as she wont go back to sleep until about 6am.
On the pooey nappy front E does about 3 a day but the have been quite watery of late and we had to hose her down in the bath tub the other day as it was all up her back and in her hair.:barf: ..daddy discovered that one thank god!!!

Well DH has kindly made me a cup of tea...have a great day.

JoJoMart

14-04-2007, 09:49 AM

Squiggles and Nina79 - thanks I will attempt to change my username!

Wow there's been so many posts since I last posted! I can't keep up:no:

Juzzy - Good luck with the weight loss......I too want to lose some weight and have been VERY bad eating loads of chocolate, cake etc. A friend popped over yesterday and brought home made chocolate cookies which is not good (well not good for the hips anyway)! It sounds like you are similar to me with the BF. I give Liam formula and breast and he gets topped up a lot of his feeds. I fed him at 4am this morning which was totally breast and his 7am feed was breast and formula as my supply wasn't enough. It's a hard slog doing like this but I'm aiming to BF (at least partially) until at least 3 months and review it again then.

LMenz - as everyone's pretty much said it's a good idea not to wake Jack when he has a long stretch! Liam has had some long stretches but no more than 6 hours and I felt a bit guilty staying in bed but it's worth it for your sanity I reckon! Plus he would wake for a feed if he was hungry. I was told a similar thing by my nurse.

Hels - sounds like your trip to the supermarket went well and Reece was very well behaved!

Penny - great photos! I'm glad you are having a good time......pity about the smoking though. We had electricians the last 4 days rewiring our house and they left the front door open and smoked so all the smoke drifted inside. I wasn't happy but didn't say anything at the time because I was so busy with Liam. It's not good though as their lungs are so small & like Hels mentioned there's the SIDS connection and also other things like asthma but I guess that's more likely if it's constant and you won't be there forever. Have fun.

Harleyq - I don't blame you for wanting to stretch out your feeds as 2 hourly is hard work.....I know we have to do this in the first early weeks but you should be able to leave a longer gap between feeds now I think. Liam usually feeds 3/4 hourly except the other day where he was hungry 2/3 hourly. Must be the growth spurt!

Me - Liam was very unsettled the first 2 days the sparky's were at our place because of the constant banging and other noise. Poor thing. He improved though after that. Liam now weighs 4.8kg and is getting a bit of chub in his arms & legs which is cute! Some of you mentioned your bubs not sleeping well during the day in the cot? Well Liam is similar, he sleeps fine at night in his cot but during the day he doesn't seem to want to settle in the cot at all so he's now asleep in his rocker. The pram or rocker work better during the day. I wonder why this is??? It's not the light or anything because the office where we are now is very bright and he's fast asleep!

It's so true about putting them down when you see the tired signs. We missed them last night and he was a bit difficult to settle and very upset but went down quicker than he has other nights when he's been so overtired. It's quite distressing when they cry out of tiredness but can't get to sleep.

Sex - thank god I'm not the only one who hasn't DTD yet. I've been waiting for my 6 week check which got cancelled but I have it on Monday. I haven't had much of a sex drive anyway! I just don't feel that sexy at the moment but I can't keep this up forever can I :shame:

Have a great day ladies.

harleyq

14-04-2007, 09:59 AM

Lauren - Which best & less do you go to? I like their clothes as well �they are so cheap� and the muslin wraps l got from there are just fantastic� but l didn�t think there was one close to us???

Well we lived through feeds at 3 hour intervals yesterday... the third one was a lot easier, no dancing necessary, he just wanted to be close to me for the last 30 minutes or so... but it all started again this morning... DH said its time for his feed (after just on 2 hours) and l said no we have to hold him off to 3 hours... he's like but he's been waiting for 30 minutes already.... but we made it 2.45 minutes... l gave in a bit because he went so long during the night... only two wake up, 3.15 & 6.30 -- very nice... this is the 4th time he's done that (not in a row though), l hope it continues...

Oh went to see Olivia again yesterday -- here are some pics so you can see what l mean about Coen looking gigantic in comparison...

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s49/harleyq_album/2nd%20month/IMGA0040.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s49/harleyq_album/2nd%20month/IMGA0034.jpg

Hels*Bels

14-04-2007, 10:43 AM

1st time mum - What are you changing your user name to?
I think the bubs prefer the pram or rocker for daytime sleeps as they want to be around us? Personally, I don't mind as I like him to know the difference between night and day, so he only goes in his basinette at night.
Are you happy with the work that the sparkys did? hopefully it's all finished now.
I haven't DTD either, I still have stitches down there. It will be at least another month before I am game enough to do it. Too tired all the time to worry about that anyway! I think I left my libido in the delivery room :laughing:

HarleyQ - :smiliedance: sounds like the new routine is starting to work, it should get even better yet. YAY!
Love those photos too, Olivia is so cute and yes very small looking compared to Coen.

Us - I spent ages last night doing a flashing avatar so R didn't go to bed until 12 pm, naughty mum and dad :shame: He still woke at 6.30am though. I took the opportunity to get up early and do some bookwork. We are going to bring his bedtime forward to around 8.30-9pm starting from tonight and see if that helps him sleep longer.

*DH winge*
I let DH have a sleep-in until 10am today, R had woken up earlier so I had already fed him, played with him and bathed him etc. All DH had to do was feed him and then I put him in the pram for his morning nap. I asked DH to hang out some washing and do a few other things so I could get the books done. But instead DH sat on the laptop playing games and now R is awake again and nothing has been done, god men are so annoying! :banghead: So I have left him with a crying baby and shut the office door. I told him that if I don't get the books and the BAS done then the ATO will be on my back, I am already 2 months behind with it all!

So, I'd better get off here and finish my bookwork I suppose.

LMenz

14-04-2007, 12:44 PM

Harleyq - I go to the best and less at Highpoint.....Otherwise I think there could be one at Airport West (not 100% sure) Those pictures are just the cutest! Olivia is so tiny!

Hels - I hear you...the other day my DH was meant to be settling Jack and when I went into his room he was sending a text message :( Men have no idea!! Can't live without them though??!!

Thelma - Are those slings easy to carry? I have a Baby Bjorn and it hurts my shoulders after a while......maybe because Jack's so heavy??

How long does everyone's bubba's sleep for between feeds? Lately Jack will only have 1 - 1.5 hours.....not sure if it's enough but he's waking up happy and smiling so I guess it must be. Twice a week he's been having a 3 hour sleep but mostly it's just these little naps

Hels*Bels

14-04-2007, 01:16 PM

How long does everyone's bubba's sleep for between feeds? Lately Jack will only have 1 - 1.5 hours.....not sure if it's enough but he's waking up happy and smiling so I guess it must be. Twice a week he's been having a 3 hour sleep but mostly it's just these little naps

Ummm.... I definitely think that little Jack uses up his quota at night! ;) :laughing:

icugal

14-04-2007, 05:36 PM

Harleyq - OMG... Coen DOES look big compared to Olivia !! At the Melb meet-up, Coen was the little tiny one so he has obviously grown heaps in the last couple of weeks (yay for breastmilk !!)... or alternatively, Olivia is very small. Both are gorgeous though !!

Hels - If you want me to bring you back a block of chocolate, I could probably do that. I have had some chocolate (being Easter and all), and I have noticed a difference... apparently Aus chocolate has a preservative put in it to stop it melting quickly... or so they tell me.

I know I'm a bit behind the times, but good luck with the weightloss Juzzy. I'll be right there with you when I get back from England. I had a bit of a wake-up call coming over here. On the flight from Hong Kong to England, I could barely fit in the seats and it was such an uncomfortable journey. I know I'm overweight, but I'm not THAT big !! But it was enough to set the alarm bells ringing (for the record, I didn't really have a problem with the seat sizes on the first flight from Melbourne).

Well, I think we've finally covered all the relatives here in England. We don't have much planned over the weekend so might just go shopping.

On Monday, we are going to go to London with FIL and spend a full day there on Tuesday sight-seeing (Buckingham Palace, Parliarment, Big Ben, London Eye etc). On Wednesday we leave the UK and go back to Hong Kong for another 3 nights (not looking forward to this) before returning to Australia early on Monday the 23rd.

I really am loving England and wish I could spend a bit more time here. My only concern about this place is that the roads are WAY too narrow, and people drive WAY too fast !! :D It is very green though which certainly makes for a welcome change.

I'm about to post some photos to Kaelans web-site which includes some pics of my little dude on his first overseas trip (click on April Photos). The link is in my sig.

harleyq

14-04-2007, 07:58 PM

Penny - I don't know how you do it, but well done for keeping up with Bubhub, l can barely do it and l am just dealing with everyday life!!! The photos of Kaelan are gorgeous - l particularly like the sleeping through stone henge!!!

Us - Stretching out feed times -- yes he winges a bit in that last hour, but he's been feeding for about 40 minutes (pure sucking) which takes about 50 minutes all up... so l get a whole 2 hours to myself (its pretty good), but l did run into a dilemma tonight, after he finished he spewed the majority of it all back up again... l was covered, he was covered, as was the couch, the fit ball, pillows, the buffet and the floor... l ran for the shower (with Coen) whilst DH mopped up -- l got really concerned cos l thought l was going to have to replace all that milk - and frankly - l don't know if my (.)(.) could do it again... but l am relieved to find that you don't need to -- needless to say when he wanted a feed two hours later l thought l would give in just this one to replace the litres he spilled... so l was in for another marathon 40 minute feed... but he's contentedly sleeping right now...

I've cracked it with DH - so l am in hiding! Hope everyone is having a good night!!!

Hels*Bels

14-04-2007, 08:15 PM

my_lot

14-04-2007, 11:34 PM

hi everyone :wave:

just a quick hello from me. we have family visiting for a few days and also my computer has BUGS. i have to call someone in to fix it..the pop ups are driving me mad! and its sooo slow now.

penny- i love kaelans sleeping world tour shot.

haleyq- when eli spews it all up i always think of my poor (.)(.) getting a double hit when he wants to be fed sooner...i even tried to replace it with a bottle of ebm...but my darling son will not suck from a bottle (im just about given up on the dummy thing) 40 min feeding?? the longest i sit would have to be 10-15 minutes! you poor bugger, you must feel like your always feeding...my other son was just the same, eli just goes in for the kill :rolleyes:

talking about my little piggy...ive got to go feed him!

i found the bolts for the cot and he did his first night in it last night..i think i got the first solid block of 3 hours since he was born. he used to wake me with his grunting and stretching but not now..i shove the intercom right under dps pillow so when he cried he was first to hear it!:laughing:

icugal

15-04-2007, 02:41 AM

Penny - Great photos of your trip, lovely to see Kaelan is sleeping so well :laughing: And what a good website you have there too, I had a little sticky beak.
Yeah, some choccie would be good but only if you can get it through customs without any dramas. I think it would be ok if it remains sealed. Maybe we could all share some at the next meet after you come back?
I can't believe your trip is almost drawing to a close already. It will be great up in London doing all that sight seeing, although you will be shocked by the extravagant prices.
How has the weather been?

I've just come back from down the Street (literally... the town was named 'Street' *LOL*) and there was a Cadbury outlet there. Thought I was about to get a great bargain in that they had 3 chocolate bars for �1... then I noticed that they had just gone out of date. Thought I'd better not be a cheapskate, and so put them back !! :D

Kaelan has been the one mainly benefitting from our shopping trips (I hate clothes shopping for myself). Have been enjoying shopping in retail stores different to our own including Marks and Spencers, Baby Gap and Next. Kaelan now has a myriad of new clothes (bought by both us and his grandparents) so he should be well dressed until he is at least one. Clothes are fricken expensive here though.. bet I'd save a whole heap of money if I just came back and shopped at K-Mart or Target :)

re: the weather. Would you believe that it is rather warm over here?? Temps have been between 18-25 degrees since we arrived.. I'm so annoyed because I could have left most of my suitcase at home (I'd packed a lot of heavy, thick jumpers etc). I've not got many t-shirts with me, so I'm basically wearing the same thing everyday. Bring on the cold weather I say !!

icugal

15-04-2007, 02:45 AM

BTW, I have to mention... ever since we've been on holiday, Kaelan is sleeping through the night. He's basically sleeping 8-9 hours every night - it is total bliss !! :fingerscrossed: he will continue on like this at home.

Also, K is really, really starting to vocalise when he is happy/content. He just gabbles on in his own little language, usually with a big smile on his face... it is SO gorgeous !! (I recorded him doing it with my digi cam today.. I'll try to put it up on Youtube at some stage). Is anyone elses bubs doing this yet??

This whole parenting thing gets better and better every day :)

Hels*Bels

15-04-2007, 08:29 AM

My_Lot - Great about E sleeping well in the cot. I am a bit nervous about starting to use ours but maybe I should take the plunge soon.

Penny - LOL at "Street", great name for a town!

:yes: they definitely have great clothes shops and better quality too. I have got quite a few outfits from M & S that will fit R soon and also from Next, that's the benefits of having family in the UK send him clothes over. Trouble is, no one over here would know where they are from, where as in the UK you would proudly display the baby around in his Next attire!
That's great that K is sleeping through, Reece is too. Both our boys are developing at the same rate now. Lots of smiles and chattering and the attention span is getting longer too, yes it is great.
I wouldn't have cared about the out of date choccie, it would still be better than here :p

Us - I got a little sleep in today but when I got up DH was on the blardy laptop again and nothing had got done! R was sitting crying in a pooey nappy too. What is with these blokes? :banghead:

We are off out to the city soon, or more like after it's taken me an hour to clean the place up :mad:

LMenz

15-04-2007, 08:29 AM

Ummm.... I definitely think that little Jack uses up his quota at night! ;) :laughing:

:laughing: :laughing: Yes it would seem that way!! He still gets pretty cranky at times....I think it's because he's tired. Not sure though?

harleyq

15-04-2007, 09:30 AM

Penny - Enjoy that shopping - Baby Gap has some wonderful clothes and great quality too... a couple of years ago l bought my friends some clothes from there, then she lent me a pile of her clothes and they were in there... and they are still in excellent condition!!!
Yeah the clothes here (at Target & Kmart) are cheaper, but even the clothes fromthe likes of pumpkin patch are not as good a quality as some of the stuff from over there - its nice to have a few really nice pieces (let the family spoil him rotten!!!)

Coen is also gurgling and cooing heaps now - it is sooooo adorable - so far he has only really done it for us (DH and l) so we have this whole secret development that noone else has shared in yet... but l love it... its hard when its the middle of the night and l am doing a feed l just want to feed him with my eyes closed, and then he coos at me and l can't help but stare at him in wonder!!!

My_lot - I definitely have a little piggy on my hands, cos when l say he has been feeding between 35-40 minutes since l switched to the 3 hourly feeds, l mean real sucking, none of this suck sleep stuff... he sucking like l am going to pull that nipple out of his mouth at any moment -- when l was doing 2 hourly feeds it would be 10-15 minutes of real sucking maybe over a 20 or at max 25 minutes on the boob... so l guess that this 3 hourly thing is probably working out well for us - l am definitely loving the freedom!!! I went to the shops yesterday by myself and only took my purse, keys and mobile -- l felt naked... but it was FANTASTIC!!! I only did the supermaket shopping but it was sooooo incredibly easy... and l timed my arrival so that l would be here just in time for his feed... DH was busily trying to keep Coen occupied... l must admit though whilst l was in the line at Safeway l felt my letdown and just wanted to hug my chest - it was a bit painful - l have never had painful let downs before (its not bad pain, just more of a slight stinging really)... does anybody else get that??? Lauren - l bet if Coen has of been on the boob when these let downs happened he would have been choking and spluttering like Jack does sometimes... but fortunately it happens just before he is due to feed...

Okay that's it from me -- Olivia goes home today - in fact she will be home already... l don't want to call and be a pain - but l so want to call to see how they are doing!!!

Have a great day ladies, its a gorgeous day in Melbourne again today (what on earth is happening to our weather????)

:hugs: to you Hels - hope DH has pulled his finger out!!!

I threw a tanty at DH last night and squirted him with my waterbottle - and then admitted l had been fantasising about throwing tomatoes at his head (lol) - he thought it was funny - but secretly l think he was a little scared!!! :laughing:

Ciao

shelby

15-04-2007, 10:26 AM

re sex - I had my 6 week checkup last week (with a pap smear and internal - fun) and have been given the all clear but am WAY apprehensive about DTD yet - might have something to do with my 2nd degree tear. Poor DF. Have just started the minipill also but am scared of falling pregnant again - seeing as I did with Olivia while I was on the pill/ Hopefully the pill cobined with breastfeeding will work!

Weight gain - Ive been reading you guys talk about how much weight your bubs are putting on and it makes me a little worried - Olivia has been slowly putting on weight at a rate of about 100grams a week - she was 4.2kg when born and is now about 5 kg. She is breastfed on demand - does anyone elses bub not put on weight at a great rate?

Her colic is driving me nuts at the moment - it is really interfering with her feeding and my nipples are suffering bigtime. We are starting to dread going out or to peoples houses as we dont know if she is going to scream or not. I hate that she is obviously in pain but it is so frustrating as there is very little that seems to sooth her.

Well done harley in stretching the feeds out!!! Are you finding that that Coen is more settled? I have started to feel my letdown over the last couple weeks - sometimes between feeds as well. Its a strange sensation - it stings/burns and is often quite painful!! Poor Olivia chokes on it sometimes and then will pull off and get sprayed in the face - I even got DF the other day when he was sitting next to me :laughing: I was reading your post the other day about your cousin and coen crying in the car - totally understand how you feel and dont think you are being mean at all. I bet she has a lot more understanding for you now!! She is lucky to have you to come to for advice/support etc as you have had a bub so recently. Loved the pics of Coen and Olivia, so cute! Coen has so much hair, its goregeous!!! My Olivia was born with heaps but seems to be losing some.

Penny - Reading your posts brings back all these memories for me....(I lived in England for a few years) While you are there see if you can go to Thorntons - they do the best choccies. I used to love their truffles. yum!!!

I so need to get my **** into gear re: weight loss. I did go to the gym last week for the first time which I really enjoyed but need to stop eating so much ****. I keep buying easter eggs that are on sale and then of course I eat them - but they are making me feel disgusting.

Question for those who BF - do you find eating/drinking certain things upsets your bub? I have to admit to being fairly carefree about what I eat and drink, (coffee, the odd alcoholic beverage, spicy foods, garli etc) and havent really been paying attention to whether it upsets Olivia, but am wondering if I can help her colic a bit by being a bit more careful.

ziggy - I was thinking about you the other day and wondering how lilys reflux is going - is the losec helping? How are you coping?

scuba/cats/sassi/sydney girls - are we still going to meet up sometime? I think last time we talked about meeting up on the thursday just gone....

hope everyone is having a great weekend

SuperFrog

15-04-2007, 10:47 AM

My_Lot - Great about E sleeping well in the cot. I am a bit nervous about starting to use ours but maybe I should take the plunge soon.

Liam has slept in his cot right from the start without a problem. He used to look so tiny in it!
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/superfrog1976/Liam/mybigcot400x300.jpg

Squiggles

15-04-2007, 11:32 AM

Hi All,

Hels - I reckon we are going to try Connor in his cot tonight. I have been putting the bassinette next to his cot at night and also trying him with the light off for something different and he has slept through the entire night two nights in a row!!! lastnight from 9pm til 7am!!!!:smiliedance: Im just wondering about linen for the cot though... in his bassinette we just use one of his cotton wraps as a blanket and tuck it in really well, but it will be too small for the cot, not wide enough. What does everyone else use to cover their bubs? Should I head out and buy a cot blanket? We have a big quilt but I think its too heavy to use until he is a bit bigger. We have a Boori Sleigh cot and its so huge and Connor looks so tiny.
Oh and Best and Less is fab!! We dont have one anywhere near us but my mum and Dad do and I pop in there when I visit them - we bought DH a wallabies rugby jumper for $10 and its great!

Penny - The choc in UK is also different because of the different milk used - different feed for the moo moos makes different tasting dairy stuff. I have to say the food in the UK for me has always been :barf:No offence to any Brits out (Im married to one) there but I have to say, English Choccy and English sausages - eeeewwww. In AS a contradiction though, the best meal I have ever had in my life was in the UK, for our engagement present we were taken to lunch at Jamie Oliver's restaurant Fifteen by Dh's awesome cousins, we had to wait 6 weeks to get a table (names on a witing list) and we could only get in for a lunch sitting but my god the food was amazing!!! Oh and the fudge in Bath mmm. On the smoking, I get so p!ssed about people smoking anywhere near me and Connor so I really feel for you (ex smoker here too) the other thing that peevs me is how they smoke everywhere in the UK - even in the shopping centres!! Your photos bring back some fond memories for me too. DH took me to Stonehenge on our first trip together and we laughed at everyone walking around like Zombies with those hand held tour guide things!

Harleyq - clothes sizes, yeah how bad do you feel when you think you are a size 8 and half the time I end up in like a 10 or a 12... my wardrobe looks like its for a few different people if you look at all the size tags.
Well done on stretching the feeds out too, Im sure it will get easier now for you. And the photos - Coen and Olivia look so cute together!! Coen is such a cutie with all his hair! Just like my little fluff ball.

Hi Thelma... welcome back!

Ist time mum in melb - I hate hearing Connor crying knowing all that it is is that he is over tired. He gets so worked up and he is so hard to settle. The arms and legs get kicked around and he screams and cries, just horrible.

Lauren - Connor normally only sleeps 30 - 40 mins at a time between feeds during the day. Little bugger is normally wide awake and intent on watching what is going on.

Shelby - Connor puts on about 250gms each week but he is partly on 25% EBM and 75% Formula and Im sure the formula is making him a little fatty. With the foods that can upset bubs I was told that things like peas and cabbage can give them really bad wind.

Us - A few things going on... firstly and most excitedly... We have found a house that we are going to put an offer in on!! So no more country girl here. After nearly 4 years here we are missing being in the city and need to be closer to my mum and Dad to help babysit and closer to our friends. Its 10 mins from the city centre and on a fairly big block which will be suitable for our dogs, who Im sure will go mad after having huge acreage to run around on. House is TINY only 2 brs (we have 4 brs here) but we can't afford anything bigger closer to the city. It needs work too, so more Bl00dy renovating for us :banghead: Only prob is the agent has 6 other interested parties so its going to be a bidding war and I am already really emotional about it. I am sad to sell our place and unsure about the change and unsure about the house but I know we have to move (DH is miserable out here too) so this is the best we can get in our price range, it will just be really upsetting to miss out on it. Can I ask you all keep your fingers crossed for us?

Another change - I have gone from very blonde to dark brown hair and its taken me a few days to get used to seeing myself in the mirror and poor Connor was so confused. I felt so bad when I got home from the hairdressers I had to keep saying to him "its ok its still mummy" Im sure he knew it was me but he was giving me some strange looks.

Bought a baby bjorn yesterday too and so far so good. Much better luck than with the hug a bub, which I am selling on ebay.

Hope you have all had a great weekend!!

Squiggles

15-04-2007, 11:56 AM

Me again... we have been practicing getting Connor to hold things. I thought I would post a pic, Connor trying to brush his own hair!
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q44/bigdogbrodie/Connor128.jpg

And the latest cute pic of him (I just can't help myself, I love to brag about this little guy!)
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q44/bigdogbrodie/Connor127-1.jpg

MrsP

15-04-2007, 12:58 PM

Hi guys :wave:

Haven't been posting much, sorry. Unfortunately have been suffering really badly with PND (on meds now) & a baby that screams 24/7 - but been reading the posts to make sure everyone else is doing ok :)

As mentioned, we've been having a really bad time with bubs - was originally advised it was colic, then lactose intolerance, then milk supply, then reflux...(blah, blah, the list just goes on!!!) and eventually saw the Paed on Thurs and things have been HEAPS better - feels like I've got someone else's baby!

RE COLIC
For all of you with little cherubs suffering from colic, please do yourself a favour and go to the pharmacy NOW & buy the over the counter medicine called DONNALIX. This product has saved my sanity, my marriage & Evie is much more settled & happy. The Paed advised that I give her a dose 4 times a day just prior to a feed, and if required then use Gripe Water in between.

Will be back soon to join in on the fun....glad everyone is well.

JoJoMart

15-04-2007, 01:10 PM

Hels - I'm going to change my username to LJsMum but the administrator hasn't done it yet. I know what you mean about DH not doing stuff when they are supposed to. Mine has gotten away with not doing much on the 2 weeks he had off work because he's been painting the fence. He gets stressed out if he spends too much time trying to settle Liam anyway....we have been playing the blame game lately accusing each other of doing wrong things with Liam it can't be helping the marriage! He's also been making what I think are STUPID comments that I'm spoiling Liam with too much cuddling and attention. I don't think you can spoil young bubs at this stage what do others think????

Squiggles - doing you breast feed at all or just express your breast milk? I have finally worked out that I can only really feed Liam a max of one or two breast feeds a day. The 4am feed is usually enough for him and sometimes the 7am feed is too but the feeds for the rest of the day have to be topped up with formula or just formula by the evening. I try and express my brest milk when I use formula though so I'm still stimulating my boobs but my supply is obviously not enough. It's been hard to come to terms with this but I'm slowly admitting that I can't exclusively BF Liam even though I want to :crying:

Mrs P - I hope you are feeling better about Evie now and the PND is under control. It must have been hard for a while. Can you tell me what symptoms Evie had? Liam has been very unsettled after a feed lately....for instance he will sometimes vomit some up then cry in pain, arch his back up and be crying for ages in obvious pain. I can't work out if it's colic or reflux. The lactation consultant suggested 'silent reflux' or something.

LMenz - Liam has been cat napping a lot lately but isn't happy by the end of the day when he is overtired.

Better go gals!

mumslilspunks

15-04-2007, 01:19 PM

Hey ladies,
long time no post and its taken me the past hour just trying to catch up!:eek:
Sorry but no personals today except Squiggles- Connor is just gorgeous and what a lovely crop of hair he has!
Sex- We had it 2weeeks after Billy was born :eek: If dh doesnt get it atleast once or twice a week he becomes a bit of a gurmp! Sorry tmi

Ive been flat out, went to melbourne for 4 days and again it was a nightmare. Trying to catch up with friends and rellies really wears you out. Ds2 turns 2 in 2 weeks and we have just put him in a big bed :yelclap: Seems to be going well *touching wood*
Re sleep for billy he still has a bottle around 10;30/11 and then another around 4ish. I cant wait till he sleeps through all night!
Re sleeping suits my boys just sllep in sllep suits. Ill post a pickiy!
Well lovely ladies hope you all enjoy whats left of the weekend.
Heres a couple of pictures.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j262/mumslilspunk/Billy2mnths026.jpg Sleep suits
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j262/mumslilspunk/Billy2mnths009.jpg Billy
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j262/mumslilspunk/Billy2mnths002-1.jpgDh and ds1

thelma

15-04-2007, 03:07 PM

Hi there,
Shelby - I have been watching the foods I have been eating and if i even have a small glass of wine, she is terrible and fidgety the next day all day long!!. I am in Sydney too, please let me know if you guys will be organising a meeting as i would love to come.
Squiggles - When I put E into the cot i use a sheet and one of those waffle blankets doubled over. i also have an oil heater in her room that I keep on low if it is cool. I usually turn this on at the midnight feed as it gets cooler in the early morning.
Lmenz - I have only used the sling a couple of times and it is good for about 45 minutes. Then it starts to get a bit sore. but you could swap shoulders I guess. i only got it so i could go to the shops and not have to worry about the pram and all the hassle. it is quicker just to throw her in the sling. The only drawback is it does not fit DH as it is sold in sizes. I got a medium and Dh would need a large.

Us - Well its been hellish today as I did have a small glass of wine last night and we are paying for it today. She has only slept twice since 6.30am and it has only been for 20minutes at a time.
I dont know how long I can keep going on with this BF thing...it is very draining and I am not sure wether she is getting enough milk sometimes. so when she cries after just 1.5hrs after a feed I dont know wether to feed her again or try and stretch it out to 3 hourly. She drains the breast quite well but does that mean she is getting enough. Then if i try and put her on the other side she will not take it ???
Anyway...it is very hot here today...I'm off to watch the footy as Dh cuddles bubs..

Squiggles

15-04-2007, 05:19 PM

Squiggles - doing you breast feed at all or just express your breast milk? I have finally worked out that I can only really feed Liam a max of one or two breast feeds a day. The 4am feed is usually enough for him and sometimes the 7am feed is too but the feeds for the rest of the day have to be topped up with formula or just formula by the evening. I try and express my brest milk when I use formula though so I'm still stimulating my boobs but my supply is obviously not enough. It's been hard to come to terms with this but I'm slowly admitting that I can't exclusively BF Liam even though I want to :crying:

I feel the same, I desparately wanted to BF Connor and 10 weeks on I am only just accepting that I can't. He has been on formula top ups since he was 4 days old. I can only BF him once a day and only when he is pretty relaxed - if he is really hungry he gets frustrated and fights on the breast. Some days I don't have any luck at all. I express 4 times a day and only get between 20 - 40 mls each time which I save up and feed to him as one full bottle and the rest of the time he has formula. Im happy he is getting some breastmilk but it is a pain expressing all the time and not getting much. We can only do the best we can and you sound as though you want nothing but the best for Liam as I do for Connor but our bodies wont allow us to BF so formula top ups are the best we can do - we should be happy with that. I say that but it is hard. I do feel guilty but I know I shouldn't.
No offence to anyone who formula feeds exclusively... I just read what I typed and someone may take offence - none intended.

icugal

15-04-2007, 05:59 PM

Superfrog - Liam does look tiny in that cot... so cute !!

Squiggles - Good luck with the house. It's a pity that you have to downsize, but being closer to everyone will certainly be more helpful. Connor is just GORGEOUS !!! I love his hair... unfortunately, Kaelan looks like a semi-skinned rabbit at the moment... half of his hair has fallen out in big patches. Not a great look !! :)

MrsP - :hugs: to you. Hope you feel better soon.

mumslilspunk - twice in a week?? Your DH should consider himself lucky. DF and I have only done it twice since K was born... and he is nearly 11 weeks old. I must admit, I kinda freak out when DTD because I'm scared about falling pregnant again so soon (only because having a relatively fresh caesar scar). Funnily though, DF's family are already talking about us having another baby... "when you have your little girl..." they say :)

Today is our last full day in Midsomer Norton (just outside Bath). I think DF wants to go to the local Tesco's today because it is bigger than the local Sainsbury's (both supermarkets). Other than that, I think we'll be going for a drive around the local area and then to visit Kaelan's 94 year old great-grandmother in Long Ashton for the last time. Tomorrow, we'll be heading off to London... so I'm looking forward to that !!

I don't know how we're going to get everything home again. We've bought (and have been given) so much stuff. I'm thinking that we'd already be over our weight limit for the plane... and we haven't even hit all the markets in Hong Kong on the way home yet !!

LMenz

15-04-2007, 07:09 PM

Hi All,

Where did the weekend go??? DH's parent's visited today so poor Jack was soo overtired it's not funny.....They don't understand that he needs to sleep. When I was coming back from putting him down I overheard MIL telling DH that Jack didn't need to go to sleep.....she underminds me at every opportunity!! She even told DH to go outside while she was holding Jack so Jack would look at her and not DH :eek: Total control freaks!!

Squiggles - Connor is sooo cute! I love the pic of him brushing his hair...gorgeous! Congrats on the new house too! I'll definatley keep my fingers crossed for you

Shelby - Jack suffers from bottom wind terribly so I've cut out heaps of food to see if it helps. I noticed the other day I ate some smoked almonds and he was screaming when he was farting....No more brocolli, beans, cabbage, onion etc. I've also stopped having fizzy drinks. I plan on introducing one food a week and will see what affects him more.

Thelma - RE breastfeeding; If she won't take the other breast then I'd say she's had enough....What about her nappies? If she's having 6 wet ones in 24 hours it should be enough. How do you feel about a dummy? Jack will only take his when he's tired. Other times when I offer it to him he locks his mouth shut. It works so well for us and hasn't interfered with breastfeeding at all.

RE Letdown: Mine is quite prickly too. I get it a lot between feeds.....I think my flow is starting to regulate as Jack doesn't seem to gulp as much. My boobs are also much softer these days and I no longer leak. I'm so glad they have finally started to settle down.....only took eight weeks!! :rolleyes: Also the other day I threw out the tin of formula I had in the pantry as my back up plan...YAY! I feel a real sense of achievement that I've been able to get past (most) of our feeding issues

MrsP - :hugs: to you. I'm glad your feeling better....sounds like you've been having a tough time

mumslilspunk - DTD... 2 weeks after Billy's birth. Wow!! I think I've forgotten how to do it it's been soo long :laughing:

Catch you all tomorrow

ziggy29

15-04-2007, 08:01 PM

harelyq - good work on stretching the feed times. he sounds like he is really having a good feed each time now. i have also stretched lily out to 4 hourly and she is eating much better and sucking for like 30 minutes. also she is much happier and less crying.

now i just need to work on her need to be carried around the whole time she is awake. anyone got an suggestions?

I too have painful letdowns and always have - funny when it happens when i hear someone elses baby cry at the shopping centre.

Shelby - thanks for asking after me and lily regarding reflux. we are both doing a lot better. it took the losec 2 weeks to really work but now it is really helping. lilys weight loss has slowed down now to about 130g a week. she has doubled in size from about 2.5 at her lowest to 5kg now (at 10 weeks old). maybe olivia didnt need to put on weight so quickly becuase she was larger in the beginning.

Squiggles - good luck on the house. i just love my baby bjorn.
- and ist time mum - i nearly cried when i read your posts. you both are to be commended on your courage and determination to give your bubs breast milk.

Mrs P - sounds like you have had a tough time. here is a big hug.:hugs:

Thelma - when she cries 1.5 hrs after a feed could it be that she is overtired? Lily cries at about this time and is she is desperate for a sleep.

lmenz - congrats on making the BF work for your little piggy. i never thought i'd say it but i am glad my boobs have gone saggy - it makes the bf so much easier.

Me - well we had one of those magical nights other people talk about with lily sleeping from 730 till 430 and then from 5 till 730. Me and DH got nearly 10 hours sleep!!!!! even if it never happens again it was a great recharge.

Good nights sleep vibes to you all.

Shajbm

16-04-2007, 01:32 AM

Hi Ladies,

Just finished feeding so I thought I'd pop in and say hi. I'm sorry I wont be able to make it to the next meet.

I'm happy to have 1 at my place next month if that suits people.

Let me know your thoughts.

Everyone seems to be doing so well and that's great to see.

Speak to you all again tommorrow.

NoMoreScuba

16-04-2007, 06:23 AM

Bought a baby bjorn yesterday too and so far so good. Much better luck than with the hug a bub, which I am selling on ebay.

Me too! After my great start with the hugabub i've decided I hate it. charlie likes it, but i can't stand it. Bought a baby bjorn on ebay and it's great! I love it.

Like a few of you, we have moved Charlie into his cot now. And have had a few very unsettled days (not sure if that's related to being in the cot). He's still sleeping brilliantly at night (last night 6.30 - 5.30 this morning!), but he's VERY hungry during the day so I tend to feed him every 2 hours in the afternoon/evening. It's a small price to pay for some good sleep though!

I have also been feeling let downs more recently (not painful though). And now I worry when I don't feel them - does the milk still come out ok when you don't have a let down?

shelby, i'm still up for a meeting. Maybe we should wait until sassi is back from holidays now? Has anyone heard from cats&kid recently?

My MIL is over from the uk and has been staying with us for 2 weeks. She's driving me a bit bonkers. It's very hard to relax. She's here for another 3 weeks at least (maybe longer) and I'm just keeping my fingers crossed she goes and stays with DF's brother for a while...

JoJoMart

16-04-2007, 06:55 AM

LMenz - your inlaws soung like a real pain.....I can relate to this! The undermining thing is bad and I hate that too. Sometimes I get condescending comments from my MIL as if I don't know anything. Mine's pretty judgemental and she's just not the emotional supportive type.

Squiggles - yes I agree with you about the whole BF thing. The lactation consultant told me babies will get frustrated on the breast if the milk supply is low.....I notice by the afternoon I don't have much milk. What's really frustrating is when I do BF Liam he throws some of it up and he has all the symptoms of reflux with screaming in pain, arching his back etc. Mainly happens after a BF - I can't win!

Ziggy29 - Liam also slept 9 hours last night but he's only 7 weeks old so I feel guilty that he missed a feed :(

NoMoreScuba - good luck with the MIL!

Icugal - I'm jealous! Would love to go to England one day.

Me - off to my 6 week check today then hope to see the GP about Liam's possible reflux.

my_lot

16-04-2007, 07:05 AM

hi everyone :wave:

we went to movieworld yesterday with the family visiting, dsd and my lot so it was quite a tribe. lol.

we went there when i was 8 months preg and i walked til my feet felt like dropping off and waited for everyone to ride the whole day. then we went last month (yes we have year passes!) with family and they were too old or too young to go on these rides (yes im a chicken and wont go on my own!) so yesterday was the one i was looking forward to.. i was going to impress these teenagers with my lack of fear and brave face and teasing about them being chickens i was going to fly with superman on that great big rollercoaster and the lethel weapon and i felt sick in the car going there and then it didnt leave me the whole day :o and these blOody kids spent the day laughing about me not wanting to go on them and calling me a chicken :laughing:

anyway i still had fun and dsd spent a whole day with eli for the first time since he was born.

shelby- on the foods and b/f- i dont have dairy products if i can help it.. the most would be a bit of milk in coffee. (i am still using preg & b/f tablets) my other children were all lactose intolerant.. i had only soy while b/f them but this time i havent done that...and he also took 70ml of cows milk formula and had no rash ect..i did notice the other day i had a rash on my belly and he aslo had a rash on his face..heat rash maybe im not sure- but it did make me wonder if it was something id eaten..but other than that i really dont give it much thought.

mumslilspunkS- we aslo dtd about then- ...i was a little sore and sorry...(but it was no where near as bad as the first time after the c-sect)

and on dps. im not sure if its a "need" to them, like a kids in a candy shop needing a lolly cos its all in front of them or if they think its showing love. i think my dp goes between the two. when he told me, right after eli was born, that he wanted to make love i said "your joking" (among other things!) but to me all i could think of was id just pushed this great big baby out of there! but to him, and he explained after i spat those last few words at him)..id just given him another beautiful baby, another son and he was so in love with us both and in amazement of my body for giving birth -again and after the c-sect- and he just wanted to be with me and be close ...so i sum it up as his way of showing love... some men are thick in this department...and while that was cute it isnt when he counts days that ive deprived him! (kid in the candy shop syndrome)

ive got to go all the family are up and ready for breakfast.

mumslilspunks

16-04-2007, 07:24 AM

some men are thick in this department...and while that was cute it isnt when he counts days that ive deprived him! (kid in the candy shop syndrome)

.

This sounds like mt dh. He thinks sex can cure any sickness. If im not feeling well its because we 'havent had a sex up', if i have an ache or pain apparenlty sex will sure this aswell:confused: :laughing: They have a funny way of looking at things.

Nina79

16-04-2007, 07:45 AM

Morning ladies! Itching to post more but have to be quick as i'm off to THE GYM... :eek:

Ryan woke every two hours through the night, something he hasn't done since week 1 so I feel (and look) like sh!t. I'm hoping this is just a temporary set back as he has been sleeping for five hours, up for a 20 min feed then back down for another four hours, which has been fantastic.

I really don't want to go to the gym now but I'm inspired by some of you ladies who are working so hard to get in shape. I have still got about 5kgs to get to my pre-pregnancy weight and need to lose another 1-2kgs to fit properly into my wedding dress in Sept. So.. I"m going to drag our sorry butts there and hope that Ryan behaves for the child care people... :o

I'll be back soon to let you know how it goes... :fingerscrossed:

Hels*Bels

16-04-2007, 08:18 AM

Liam has slept in his cot right from the start without a problem. He used to look so tiny in it!
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/superfrog1976/Liam/mybigcot400x300.jpg

Awww... that is so gorgeous! :)

Squiggles - Good luck making the transition to the cot and :fingerscrossed: that you get the house you are after.
And what a beautiful little boy you have there too.

Us - I have been awake since 5.30am as R stirred but went back to sleep until 7am, but I didn't!! What a missed opportunity. Then he wouldn't go back to sleep again so I got up. Now R is asleep and I am wide awake... so not fair! I have got an appt with my OB at 12pm today so I can't go back to bed now. Things have healed up well "down there" but there are still some stitches that he will need to take out, as they are irritating me now.

We had a good time at the Home Show yesterday and I saw one of those small round robotic vacuums that moves around the floor all day picking up bits. It was on special at $300 so I just had to buy one. Haven't tried it yet as it's still charging. But I plan to start it up when I go out every arvo and come home to a fully vacuumed house :yelclap:
Now all I need is one that does the washing and mows the lawns :laughing:

I've still got 2 pages of posts to read and reply to, but I have to get us ready to go out now, so I'll be back later.

mummybunny

16-04-2007, 10:20 AM

Hello :wave: ladies, i know its been a while but Riley has been such an angle we just barely ever stay at home now...
Riley is sleeping anywhere from 8 to 11 hours a night and is just an angel to take out he will sit in his pram and just look around or sleep the whole time..
How is everyong?? are all our little bubs growing nice and big so quick or what?? Riley is 6 kg with a nappie on prob more now that was 2 weeks ago, we are due for anothe weigh in and measure up, the funny thing is he isnt fat at all he is so tall he is going to be a very tall boy, if i knew how id post some pics...

Anyways how was everyones easter??

its getting so cold down this way...

well i best be off and get some stuff done while my little angle is sleeping..

P.s sorry for no personals didnt read other post very well still half asleep... will be back laters though...

:wave: Bye Xox Kim

ziggy29

16-04-2007, 11:41 AM

Nina79

16-04-2007, 11:46 AM

It really feels like everyone elses baby was perfect and lily and I have it all wrong. (eg.apparently it is normal for a baby lilys age to sleep 8-10 straight at night -everynight)!!!

That's awful. :hugs: But what I'm beginning to appreciate is that there is no "normal"...

Wait til Wednesday and our meet up, I'm sure it will make you feel better cos I'm sure the rest of us wouldn't pass the CHN's muster either! :laughing:

MrsP

16-04-2007, 12:02 PM

I went to a mothers group by the child health nurse when I first had DS 6 years ago. The exact same thing happened to me, so I got the courage to go a second time, only to leave feeling horrible yet again - so I didn't bother after that :thumbsdown:

Sorry you had to experience that Ziggy - I myself do not like the way child health nurses make you feel - motherhood, especially with a newborn, is hard enough, let alone having another person or group of people tell you that you have it wrong.....

Nina - when's this meet? This Wed you say? Can you please pass on the details, would love to come if I can get myself organised :yes:

LMenz

16-04-2007, 12:15 PM

Just went to my first mothers group - it was facilitated by a CHN.

I went feeling quite upbeat and in control of my life and left feeling terrible. It really feels like everyone elses baby was perfect and lily and I have it all wrong. (eg.apparently it is normal for a baby lilys age to sleep 8-10 straight at night -everynight)!!!

This makes me feel mad because i really was starting to feel on top of things.

Ziggy don't feel terrible...all those mums are probably stuggling at times too but don't want to admit it. My friend who has two kids said that would happen when I start my mother's group. She said they will all act like mothering comes so naturally to them and there baby is perfect and never cries :ecomcity: Truth is they are just as clueless as the next person

Jack woke last night for his 1am feed...something he hasn't done for over a week so things can change. Your a great mum!! Lily is very lucky to have you!

Hels - That vacuume sounds great! Hope you were able to have a nap

Nina - How did you go at the gym?

Ist Time mum - Don't worry about Liam sleeping that long....he'll wake up of he's hungry. I'm doing the same with Jack.....

mummybunny

16-04-2007, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by ziggy29 http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?p=1344644#post1344644)
It really feels like everyone elses baby was perfect and lily and I have it all wrong. (eg.apparently it is normal for a baby lilys age to sleep 8-10 straight at night -everynight)!!!

i can tell you now that just because Riley is sleeping 8-10 hours a night does not mean that he is perfect, we still have our troble times, and when we do they are not just little ones they are big ones...

good luck with bub and hope you feel better your bub will sleep through 10 hours when she is ready, it took Riley a while!!!

Merlion

16-04-2007, 01:01 PM

Bought a baby bjorn yesterday too and so far so good. Much better luck than with the hug a bub, which I am selling on ebay.

Hey Squiggles, have you put HAB on ebay if you haven't I wouldn't mind buying it off you as I love mine and would love a spare one.

Daniel is going well. Fully breast fed and growing in leaps and bounds. He still sleeps in his bassinett and joins me in bed when DH leaves for work.

Hels*Bels

16-04-2007, 01:05 PM

LMenz

16-04-2007, 02:04 PM

Melb Ladies;

We have our next meet this Thursday. Is there anyone who wants to come along, that still needs the address details? please let me know asap.
Juzzy and EskimoMumma, are you both coming?

I just got back from seeing the OB, R was a little angel whilst out (as always :p ). The OB removed my last few stitches and has given me the all clear, so I don't have to go back again :smiliedance:
He also said we can BD again in 2-4 weeks :eek:
DH and I havedecided we are going to start TTC'ing around October time.
Anyone else thought about TTC'ing yet?

Anyway, I'm off to get a late lunch, my tummy is grumbling lol.

Hels....I'm coming with Sandy again. I can't remember if I let you know already. What should I bring in regards to food?

Glad all went well with the OB

TTC - No Way!!! Your a brave woman to go back for seconds so soon after having Reece. I need at least a two years break in between going through pregnancy and labour again :)

thelma

16-04-2007, 03:04 PM

Hi everyone,
bubs is asleep on my lap so I will be quick..
Ziggy - re:crying after 1.5hrs...she ill not take the other breast at the initial feed and if i do offer her she refuses...so I have no idea. She wont sleep during the day. But I have Karitane coming out on Wednesday so she may be able to give me some pointers.
Lmenz - E will take the dummy no poblem and the bottle too if I express. She just wont SLEEP...uurrrgghhh :banghead:

Bye for now

Hels*Bels

16-04-2007, 04:34 PM

Hels....I'm coming with Sandy again. I can't remember if I let you know already. What should I bring in regards to food?

Glad all went well with the OB

TTC - No Way!!! Your a brave woman to go back for seconds so soon after having Reece. I need at least a two years break in between going through pregnancy and labour again :)

:yes: Sandy told me the two of you are coming together again. Would you like to bring some sandwiches this time? although we won't need as many as what Heather did last time lol. I think there will be 5 or 6 of us this time. I am doing dips and nibblies, Joanne is bringing fruit. So Sandy if you are reading this, how about bringing a cake or something like that?

Re TTC'ing, ah well the clock is ticking for us, even the OB reminded me of that today lol. So we will get our family finished asap then we can spent time enjoying our 2 kiddies :D
I'm not looking forward to going through it all again either, but it's a caesar next time around for me and I will do things alot differently this time around (with the hospital and baby).

It occured to me that 1st time around we are at the mercy of the hospital and staff and go along with whatever they say and do.
Second time around it's definitely more about what the mother wants. Anyone else agree?

icugal

16-04-2007, 05:04 PM

So not fair... I want to come to the Melbourne meet !! (Can you take some photos please?)

*sulks*

Anyways...

Re: TTC - It will be the end of the year for us. I'll be 34 in September and want to have my babies finished by the time I'm 35. I wish I hadn't started having kids so late... I'd have a dozen if it were up to me... but I have the worry of things going wrong after 35 (ie increased DS risk), so that will be my cut-off.

Hels - I have a robotic vacuum... though I keep forgetting to use it. It's so cute !! Oh, and I picked up some chocolate too.

Nina - You go girl !! Hope your gym session went well.

I'm sorry, I don't have time to reply to everyone... MIL is cooking up a big english breakfast, so I have to go.

We are going to London today and then Hong Kong, so the rest of our stay will be in hotels so it is unlikely that I will have much (if any) internet access. I may try to check up on you girls from Hong Kong Airport next Sunday (free wireless internet).. otherwise, I may not be back on until next Monday. OMG, that is like a whole week away !!!

*breathe Penny, breathe*

However will I cope without my Bubhub fix?? I need a patch or something !! :D

Anyways, better go... I miss you girls already !!

juzzy

16-04-2007, 05:42 PM

hey guys

Hels - yeah i am planning on coming! Means i get out of the house and can forget about the housework! What should i bring?

Good to hear that things went well at the OB and that Reece was an angel for you

about TTCing, DP and i have been talking and want to have our kids close together, so at this stage i am hoping to start trying at the end of the year. I do want to lose weight and things like that first so i can actually enjoy my kiddies.

Speaking about losing weight, a friend of mine and about 20 friends of hers are doing a "Biggest Loser" competition... i joined up as the first prize is $1000... id like to think i will win, but i doubt it!! Its all in good fun though and a good way to keep my motivation going for the next 12 weeks.

Went to my mothers group today, Ziggy i feel kinda the same as you after leaving my group. I was the youngest person there and felt totally out of my depth. I will give it one more shot next monday in case i was imagining things...

Anyway time to go start dinner.... just got back from a nice walk and am starving!

Ohhh, just one more thing, here is a pic of Cassidy before we went on our walk..... nice and cosy in the pram!!

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mumslilspunks

16-04-2007, 08:13 PM

Re: TTC - It will be the end of the year for us. I'll be 34 in September and want to have my babies finished by the time I'm 35. I wish I hadn't started having kids so late... I'd have a dozen if it were up to me... but I have the worry of things going wrong after 35 (ie increased DS risk), so that will be my cut-off.

!

Im the same! i have another 4 years (turn 31 this may) and we would like to try again for a girl this time!:fingerscrossed:
DH said that he doesnt want anymore after he turns 40 ( hes 37 now). So we better get busy!!

I got the biggest suprise tonight ladies, I got a BIG bunch of flowers and some lingere!! Weve been married 3 years and together 5yrs and his never brought me lingere before! I was so wrapped!
I had a shower and put it on and his gone to put ds1 down coz he's sleeping in a big bed now and my dh has been there for the past hour :confused: I think hes falllen asleep.
What a waist, OH well another night maybe...:laughing:
Hope all bubs have a good night and all you mums have a decent nights sleep.

SuperFrog

16-04-2007, 09:07 PM

Quick question...

I usually bf and don't express because it takes forever to get even 20 ml. Anyway, I went to see a comedy festival show last night so I expressed every night for the last week and just managed to get enough for one feed. My MIL looked after Liam and apparently he guzzled it really quickly, going red in the face because he wasn't taking any breaths. She kept having to take the bottle away so he would take a breather. She said she'd never seen a baby drink like that (because her kids were perfect of course...)

So, is feeding from a bottle a completely different technique that a baby learns, or is it the same as the sucking reflex? Should I try and feed him from a bottle every now and then to avoid problems later on?

Any thoughts appreciated.

mumslilspunks

16-04-2007, 09:39 PM

Did he sleep longer? He may have been hungry?
I feed Billy bottle and boobie and he always takes the bottle better. But maybe your MIL was stretching the truth??:confused:
I dont think its any diffrent just a more controllled flow, as in the nipple has about 10 holes where the teet has two or three depending on what kind of teet you had him on.

Hels*Bels

16-04-2007, 09:55 PM

:thumbsup: YAY for getting the chocolate Penny! Enjoy London and HK, and one week will fly by! We will miss you at the meet, but we'll have another one soon and the big city meet is coming up soon aswell so lots to look forward to when you get back :D

Juzzy - That's great that you are coming to the meet. We can chat about your mother's group as it might help things. I start mine this wednesday, and I have the other problem that I will most likely be the oldest person there. But that sort of thing doesn't bother me and I will most likely have an advantage as R is 11 weeks now and in a routine :p It's my second group as I could only go once to the last group once due to my post-natal complications, so I had to pull out.
Great photos of Cassidy, she looks so snug. It was quite cold in Melb today.

Superfrog - Not sure if this will help but R skulls 180mls in about 10 mins flat and he screams if I take the bottle out to wind him lol.
It could be that the teat you have is too fast for Liam, what brand are you using?

Better go, DH is having trouble feeding R as he keeps falling asleep. Poor little thing has been awake for hours.
Night all.

Cats&Kid

16-04-2007, 11:43 PM

Hi all,

Please excuse lengthy post.

Forgive me as been MIA again and haven't had a chance to catch up on any of the news - will have to go back when I get some time.... seriously lacking any at the moment. Do hope everyone is doing ok - I'll do personals as soon as I catch up.

I'm still having feeding issues taking all my time (expressing, BF & formula) - worried I'm about to get my 3rd bout of mastitis, just when I thought things were looking up - I've finally managed to get Matthew attached :smiliedance:. But I got a worring review of his weight from the ECHC nurse a fortnight ago as he's gone from 90 percentile to 70 percentile at 3 weeks and only 50 percentile at 6 weeks so I've an extra long appointment this Thursday to check feeding and where to go from here. He was going 5 to 7 hours between feeds and slept one night for 9 hours straight so was 10+ hours between feeds so I'm not to let him go over 6 hours now, but he's now lost all routine as before I had a rough idea when he'd need feeding now I have no idea as he sometimes wants feeding half an hour to 2 hours after the last feed and he's still drinking 170-200+ per feed - so confused. Anyone out there having similar problems?

Scuba & Shelby: Sorry, I haven't had a chance to write for the last 2 weeks. I would still love to catch up - Sassi comes back (I think) this weekend so maybe next Thursday at Manly if this suits everyone?

Hugs & kisses to Mums & bubs :wave:

NoMoreScuba

17-04-2007, 07:33 AM

So, is feeding from a bottle a completely different technique that a baby learns, or is it the same as the sucking reflex? Should I try and feed him from a bottle every now and then to avoid problems later on?

Any thoughts appreciated.

Hey superfrog - a friend of mine suggested i did this with charlie as her son refused to take a bottle, which was really inconvenient when she wanted to leave him for an occasional evening etc. I've been giving charlie a bottle most evenings. He takes it when he's hungry, but seems to get very frustrated with it.

Cats&Kid - next thursday in manly would be good.

juzzy - good luck with the weight loss! I really need to get my butt into gear and stop eating chocolate. I am so fed up of not fitting into my clothes it's unreal...

mother's groups - i'm really enjoying mine, they seem a really nice group of girls. they're all around my age though, which is good.

I signed charlie up for gymbaroo starting next week! I'm so excited about it. I hope he doesn't scream his way through it!

I'm a bit worried about my milk supply at the moment, by the evening I don't seem to have enough to keep him happy. I try and give him a bottle of EBM anyway most evenings, but i'm finding it harder and harder during the day to get a full bottle. There's just no time! Also, i'm having major stresses - my MIL has been here (from the uk) for over 2 weeks now and she's driving me potty. She's got another 3 weeks of her holiday left, and yesterday announced she might be extending her visit by ANOTHER 3 weeks. I nearly cried. I am pretty much fighting her to let me even change charlie's nappy during the day, it's making me really sad :crying: . I'm hoping she's going to go and stay at DF's brother's place for a while. I need space.

my_lot

17-04-2007, 07:36 AM

super frog- im thinking it was the teat too.

im not sure about a different suck but bubs have to work harder to get milk from the breast. so if you use a teat with a breast fed bub they could suck as hard as breastfeeding and then get the skull thing happening...i used to think dd1 liked the bottle more for this reason...it came out easier than b/feeding.

i use (well not use, just try to) a teat that resembles the nipple... so ive used avent but i do like the pigion better as the teat is so so soft...but like i said i try to use it... my darling boy still licks the drips!...

LMenz

17-04-2007, 09:55 AM

SuperFrog - As my_lot said bubs has to work much harder when breastfeeding whereas with a bottle the milk sort of pours down their throat IYKWIM....Jack had a bottle of EBM the other day and when I gave it to him he gave me the funniest look as if to say where's my boob? :laughing:

NoMoreScuba - I'd say your low supply is due to the stress from your MIL...I find mine is shocking when I'm tired and worried about something. Maybe try expressing 1/2 an hour after a feed to boost it a bit. Can you take Charlie for a walk on your own to get away from her?

mumslilspunk - That's great what you hubby did.....You deserve it!!

Hels - About the meet on Thursday...would it be ok if I brought a quiche and salad instead of sandwiches? I have to leave here about 10ish to get to Sandy's so we can leave by 11......don't think sandwiches would cope well in the car for that long. Hope that's ok?

ME: Jack had his injections today....he screamed, I nearly cried :crying: DH came for a bit of support which was good. He also had the Rotateq immunisation too. Pretty pricey but worth it if he ever caught the virus. He's asleep now so fingers crossed he copes ok

Better go and do a few jobs...I'll be back! :)

JoJoMart

17-04-2007, 10:01 AM

Hi Ladies,

NoMoreScuba - you poor thing having to suffer your MIL like that. I hope she doesn't stay the whole time with you....why do MIL's think they can take over all the time????

Cats&kid - sounds like you are having similar feeding issues to me. I have no idea some days what's going on. I'm persevering with breast feeding, expressing 1-2 times per day and formula tops ups or just formula some feeds. The GP told me yesterday I was affecting my milk supply by introducing formula but i had to early on because Liam wasn't putting on weight. So I know what you mean. Liam is in the 50th percentile. He also has slept longer (9 hours overnight) and sometimes 5 hours during the day but the MCHN told me not to let him sleep longer than 4 hours between feeds during the day.

Wow I can't believe how many of you are TTC sometime in the near future! Not for me just yet. I've got the mini pill and starting it A.S.A.P. but a bit worried about having to take it at the exact time every day.

Hels - My OB said I would probably have to have a caesarean next time.......I can't say I'm too disappointed with that after that horrendous 24 hour labour that didn't progress.

I still don't have Liam in a proper routine yet......I am letting him set his own routine a bit but it's out of wack most of the time. I hope this settles down soon.

shelby

17-04-2007, 10:39 AM

havent been on for a few days so some of my replies are a bit outdated but here goes anyway!

Thelma,cats and scuba - next thursday is good for me. Are you up for that thelma? whereabouts in sydney are you? I noticed our beautiful daughters share a birthday...

scuba - you are a patient woman - it must be so frustrating having your MIL there.

Nina - how did you go at the gym? I am really keen to go during the day but have this mental block about leaving Olivia in the creche - Im really anxious that she will just cry the whole time.

ziggy - I felt a bit the same when I went to my mothers group - all the other bubs seemed perfect, mine was the only one who cried and who wasnt feeding properly and they all seemed so stressed. big hug to you hon Im sure they cant be that perfect (Im hoping) Glad to hear her reflux is getting better and hope you are coping ok.

Mrs P - I went and got Donnalix and have been using it for a day now.....cant see a huge improvement yet but :fingerscrossed: thanks so much for the tip and hope you are doing ok and your daughter is getting a bit better with colic.

Squiggles and 1sttime mum and cats... - I know how you feel, I really struggled with BF and supply. Olivia got used to feeding from a bottle and would scream hysterically when I tried to BF as she would get so frustrated. I used to have 20mls EBM in a bottle and would feed her that first so she wasnt so frantic and when she would get frustrated would give her a bit more of the bottle to settle her and then put her back on the breast. She is now BF exclusively and Im really glad we persevered. In terms of building up your supply there are a few things you can do - try to put bubs on the breast as often as you can as this stimulates supply more than a breast pump, try to offer both breasts when you do feed, and try to have as much skin to skin contact as possible - shower or bath together, or hold them across your chest just so they get used to being in that position and are relaxed. Try to minimise stress and have an afternoon nap or at least a lie down every day - even just for 20 minutes.

One thing a midwife said to me when I was worried about my supply was that once it starts to decrease its not gone forever - you can build it back up. Im not sure if any of this is too late for you but hope it helps a bit. At the end of the day if you do decide to FF you know you have given it a mammoth effort and should be really proud.

cats - sounds like matthew is having a fair bit, is he still continuing to put on weight? Are the weight charts your nurse is using the WHO ones for breastfed babies? Apparently many of the family health centres charts are for FF babies who obviously put on more weight most of the time. Obviously if there is an issue you dont want to ignnore it but maybe she is scaring you unneccessarily?? Quite often Olivia feeds every 2 hours or more often and then will go days where she goes every 3-4. I would prefer to get into a routine but am trying to just go by what she needs, in case she is having a growth spurt. Looking forward to catching up anyway.

Well I am going to lie down as I have a shocking headache and am hoping my gorgeous girl will keep sleeping!!

question - I got the most beautiful pic yesterday if Olivia smiling and would love to put it in my avatar - can someone tell me how to do it??

MrsP

17-04-2007, 10:52 AM

Mrs P - I went and got Donnalix and have been using it for a day now.....cant see a huge improvement yet but :fingerscrossed: thanks so much for the tip and hope you are doing ok and your daughter is getting a bit better with colic.

Shelby,
Hopefully you will see an improvement shortly. I was also advised to still use Gripe Water with the feeds in between, so maybe give this a go???
Evie is doing well now (touch wood) - I still have a long way to go before I really feel like being part of the group again, but I'll get there :fingerscrossed:

Nina79

17-04-2007, 12:50 PM

Hi girls,

I hope you're having a good day. Warning - long post alert!!

Superfrog - Ryan has been having a bottle of EBM every 1-2 days since he was a week old and has no confusion now. I agree with what others have said about needing to work harder at the breast and the fast flow of the teats - sometimes early in the feed he gets the bottle milk all over his face because it comes too quickly but then he seems to realise and adjust. Because of this, we generally give Ryan his bottle right before bed, so he gets a bit more into him before falling asleep (he can fall asleep on the boob before he's finished).

Cats&Kid - congratulations on getting the attachment and persevering so far with BF! Re. expressing I find it easiest to express in the morning and to start with the electric pump on one breast while Ryan is still suckling on the other - the let down allows me to collect more. Even tho I have a good supply, I find that I don't have a very good letdown if don't I get a nap/lie down in the afternoon. Perhaps, as Shelby said, this might help both you and Nomorescuba?

Us - I enjoyed the gym yesterday even tho I was tired after a bad night. They have restricted me to cardio (min weights) for another few weeks until the relaxin hormone is nearly gone. Shelby, I was worried about putting Ryan in the creche but he loved it! I went during his 'awake' period mid-morning and so he got lots of attention/stimulation from the carers and other kids. The gym creche only costs $4 for 2 hrs which is a bargain! I'm going to try and go twice a week from now on...

After his apparent growth spurt over the weekend, I have been stretching Ryan's feeds to 3 hourly again during the past 2 days. The last 15 mins are still a struggle but he's nearly there! He feeds so much better and for longer and is much more settled. Plus, I'm getting more time between feeds to get things done. This morning he woke with an hour to go til the next feed and smiled and gooed until the alloted time!! I feel good about this as usually he wants feeding upon waking, regardless of how long it's been.

Because of this new routine, after his mid morning feed today, we went out and did the grocery shopping, got fruit and veg and even filled the car with fuel. I've got the supermarket routine down pat now. Ryan stays in his capsule as we drive up and down the aisles and is an angel (i think the rythmic motion of the trolley soothes him).

So I'm feeling pretty good about the new 3 hr routine, plus DF and I have turned a corner on a contentious issue... I had a major go at him on Sat about his messed up priorities, after he announced yet another sailing commitment which would see him go away for a few days. I find it especially frustrating that he is willing to take time off for this but not for other holidays or family commitments (he even worked in the immediate weeks after Ryan was born). He knows I'm not going to be happy to sit by myself with ryan at home or where-ever the regatta is while he sails off into the sunset each day and so puts off telling me about upcoming events - making it 10 times worse when he does so at the last minute! On Sat, I expressed this frustration and my immense sadness at spending time together as a family always coming last.

DF was quite defensive at the time, but since then has organised to take the whole of next week off work!! Even tho he still has to go to Gladstone for a sailing commitment, we are now all going together and will make a road trip of it. I am very excited that he has made the effort to spend time with us. We are going to stay in beachside cabins at 1770, stop at Hervey Bay and explore other towns between Brisbane and Gladstone. I'd love to hear about any great places to stay or visit if anyone else has done a similar journey recently...We hit the road on Saturday for a week (no bubhub gossip - OMG!!). I've bought yummy food and drinks for us to take and will download some new music too.

I'm so glad that I raised this concern with him and that he has responded positively (even if it was in his own time). I was really starting to worry about communication problems and the state of our relationship - NOT a good state of mind when we are due to marry soon! :fingerscrossed: That others having problems will work through them soon too...

Gotta go - hungry now and have to make something non-fattening for lunch (better than peanut butter toast anyway).

Have a great day - can't wait to see Brissie mums at our picnic meet tomorrow!

Nina xo

ziggy29

17-04-2007, 02:20 PM

Looking foward to seeing you tomorrow nina.

I hope that msP and butterflymumma will be able to make it too.:party:

Hels*Bels

17-04-2007, 04:55 PM

Hels - About the meet on Thursday...would it be ok if I brought a quiche and salad instead of sandwiches? I have to leave here about 10ish to get to Sandy's so we can leave by 11......don't think sandwiches would cope well in the car for that long. Hope that's ok?

ME: Jack had his injections today....he screamed, I nearly cried :crying: DH came for a bit of support which was good. He also had the Rotateq immunisation too. Pretty pricey but worth it if he ever caught the virus. He's asleep now so fingers crossed he copes ok

:yes: Quiche and salad sounds great.

I hope Jack is ok now after his needles, it's really hard on us too isn't it?

LMenz

17-04-2007, 05:48 PM

:yes: Quiche and salad sounds great.

I hope Jack is ok now after his needles, it's really hard on us too isn't it?

Thanks Hels...he's good. Asleep for the night now. He had a mild temp and was a bit grizzy this afternoon but that's it.

I just can't stand hearing him scream like that in pain...poor little mite

Sleep Well everyone....... :wave:

mummybunny

17-04-2007, 06:11 PM

SuperFrogQuick question...

I usually bf and don't express because it takes forever to get even 20 ml. Anyway, I went to see a comedy festival show last night so I expressed every night for the last week and just managed to get enough for one feed. My MIL looked after Liam and apparently he guzzled it really quickly, going red in the face because he wasn't taking any breaths. She kept having to take the bottle away so he would take a breather. She said she'd never seen a baby drink like that (because her kids were perfect of course...)

So, is feeding from a bottle a completely different technique that a baby learns, or is it the same as the sucking reflex? Should I try and feed him from a bottle every now and then to avoid problems later on?

Any thoughts appreciated

i actually had the exact problem and it actually turned out i wasnt getting enuf milk in for Riley's needs, Riley would sleep for 3 hours at the most if i was lucky, he is now on formula and will sleep a min of 8 hours a night and 3 hour naps in the day, maybe seeing a doc or latation person will help??

wish i could come to your meet up guys make sure you let us know how it goes??

quick q- Riley keeps pulling his dummie out of his mouth when he is sleeping, not intentionally of course but can get annoying when he does every 10 mins and crys for it, as he is right now...then when he gets it back is asleep again how can i stop him from doing this??
ps he doesnt like to be wrapped up....

hope all is well??

harleyq

17-04-2007, 07:24 PM

Shelby � I wouldn�t worry about Olivia�s weight gain if l was you � if there was a problem the doc or MCHN would have said something � anyway � 5kg is a good weight for around 6 weeks� Coen is a porker... nah in all honesty he has been putting on quite a bit of weight, but he started with a lower base than you and Olivia� the idea l believe is as long as they are gaining weight from week to week than they are considered healthy�
On weight loss � me too!!! On the eating though � l think bf�ing makes you hungry � it certainly does me � the issue is that l developed a sweet tooth during my pregnancy that hasn�t gone away, so l am turning to the wrong foods � sounds like you too have a bit of a sweet tooth � if we could just keep away from them!!!

Squiggles � Good luck with the house, l hate house hunting, but finding the right one is just wonderful isn�t it? My fingers are crossed for you� hey is there any chance you could get somebody else to do the negotiations� like your mum or something� you stay in there but pretend that your half hearted and get somebody else who is not emotional about the place to bid� That is what we ended up doing for our place (we hired someone in fact) � and thank God� we got our place before auction just before it featured on the front page of the district real estate mag. We would have ended up paying a whole heap more for it after that article l think� And real estate agents will bleed you dry if they know you really want it!!! BTW � those pics are gorgeous!!! And he does have so much hair (just like Coen!!! J) He is adorable!!! I hope you can make it to Melbourne some time so we can meet him in the flesh!!!

Mrs P - so glad that things are looking up for you and Evie� it sounds like you had a really tough time � you sound like a very strong woman!!!

LjsMum � All the books say you can�t spoil a baby this young!!! You�ve done so well to try and get your milk supply up � big congrats to you!!!

Thelma � I have been trying to stretch my feeds out to 3 hourly � that last hour l am having to cuddle him the whole time to get him through� l hope it gets easier� it also means Coen is feeding for at least 30 minutes and sometimes 45 minutes� usually a really strong suck� l never had to offer him the 2nd breast before stretching out his feeds because he would only feed for about 20 min. and would get more than enough from the one side� but now l change him or burp him before offering him the 2nd breast� l usually try and fit it in with a natural break in his rythym (around the 20-25 minute mark)� I will feed Coen when ever he wants in the evenings cos l find that if he feeds more often he sleeps longer (this can be as frequently as every 45 minutes� but since stretching his feeds is more like 1.5-2 hourly). If you squeeze your breast after E finishes feeding does milk come out very easily???

Lauren - Oh � your MIL sounds a bit like mine � although l think mine is getting better, l hope yours does too!!! I think mine got the message cos l couldn�t hide how much she was annoying me� I am positively dreading taking Coen for his needles, have asked DH to come with me�

Ziggy � sorry to hear about your experience at mothers group.. if it makes you feel any better Coen isn�t sleeping anywhere near 8-10 hours straight� try 5 + 3 +2/3�

Hels - Sure, l will do something sweet!

Nomorescuba � big hugs to you re. MIL issues � its horrible feeling like you have to beg for your own child.

Nina � congrats on the 3 hourly routine you have and your commitment to the gym and weight loss�

Us - Coen is slowly being stretched to the 3 hourly feeds, l say slowly cos the last hour isnt as painful as it was on Friday but he still needs to be cuddled for whatever part of that last hour he is awake for...
I went for my check up with OB and he has given me the all clear to get pregnant again right away -- thanks but no thanks - as much as l love Coen and l really enjoyed all but the last few weeks of pregnancy... l am not ready to put my body or my two boys (DH & Bubs) through that... my moods are bad enough as it is at the moment -- not sure why, anybody else finding that? I don;t know if its just me or both DH and l are short tempered but we seem to be snapping at each other a lot lately...

Oh quick question - does anybody have a problem with screaming child in the car?? I suspect Coen might have wind and the shape of the capsule is keeping it trapped so l am going to switch him to the car seat after our Melbourne meet... but l just wanted to check if anybody else is experiencing it - sometimes he will be okay but other times its awful - and l just dread going into the car cos l cant tell which it will be...

mummybunny - unfortunatley l don't think there is anything to keep those pesky dummies in there mouths, we don't give Coen the dummy for that exact reason at night, but we do during the day... sometimes he will keep it in, other times l am running back and forward putting it back in for him...