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*Sparkles*
14-04-2007, 10:17
Thickener 9.95!!!! jeeze and I had looked around too and couldnt find cheaper :thumbsdown:
Today we are going check out the Kari ar though as we got from a random chemist so hopefully a bit cheaper elsewhere.
yours is like $5 cheaper on all.

I guess it must be cheaper living in Melb after all :laughing:

jacstar31
14-04-2007, 10:31
hi all
I am planning on trying to get enough Huggies bar codes together, i need the nappy ones, if anyone has any spare could you please PM me and I will send address.
thanks
Jacq xx

bossoflatch
14-04-2007, 10:35
hi - finally in for a catch up - great !!!

bubs was on karicard ar - for topups whilst we had reflux issues _ she is now almost fully breast fed -but when she was on the karicare - she really took to that one - we tried the s26 reflux - but her bowels played up and she seemed to be getting cramps ..

she was much more settled on the karicare... now she has the karicare thickener in ebm and i think it is great.. having said that she is on medication for her reflux for silent reflux - she was never a spewy baby...

hels - with regards to the cot thing - i put tayla in the cot during the day - at first she didn't like it to well, she like having me in the room - so i pretended to be doing something in her room - ie - when she started showing she was tired - i got her ready for a nap - swaddled her - put her in the cot and just waiting in her room - she would just look at me and then start closing her eyes - so for the first few days i stayedin the room with her until she was fully asleep - she would wake up every couple of mins or so - so i stayed in their just for security feeling for her and then would leave - and then about a week later (give or take ) i would leave whilst she was just starting to close her eyes and then now i just leave her as soon as she is in the cot - it has worked wonders - she was a terrible napper during the day - but now she prefers to go to sleep in her cot - she is still swaddled and in the bassinett at night - just because i do shift work - and if she is in my room with dh at least i know he should hear her... :p

i dread the day of putting her in her cot for her night sleep - i mean i cant beleive she is 3 months already ...


with regards to the huggies promo - i have 6 nappies barcodes and and all the rest - so if anyone has any spares they don't think they will need ... pick me !!pick me !!! (please ;) ) i have a spare wash cloth barcode ..if someone wants it...i swapped over to green kids mcn and now i don't buy any huggies so i should of kept going until i had 10 :laughing: !!!

better go and feed her -- :hugs:

*Sparkles*
14-04-2007, 10:51
Bossoflatch - Thanks for the tip about using the cot, that's some very valuable advice which I will try it this week :thumbsup: I suppose I should get his cot sheets washed and get it ready then lol.

This huggies playmat must be something special if so many of you want one. I am normally keen for a freebie but I already have a playgym and a sesame street playmat so I will pass.
I can supply 2 barcodes from washcloths and 1 from nappies, any takers?

freddie
14-04-2007, 12:52
sorry folks, I'm not a Huggies user although I bought some 'little swimmers' yesterday so if that's useful am happy to oblige. We haven't heard about swimming class yet but hopefully will be accepted to start at the end of this month. I'll have to get myself some too as mine were somewhat stretched during my pregnancy and are not really socially acceptable any more!

Night times are hard to guess at the moment in Perth with the change in season, sounds like everyone is having the same dilemmas we are. I worry about Hamish being cold but then that I've overdressed him. He's had the electric coil heater on the last few nights, party because he has a cough that is slow to go away and I think the cold mornings were making it worse. They're great for keeping the room warm but not too hot I think. I also put him in a long sleeved t-shirt and jarmy pants with socks inside his grow bag (sleeveless) with a wrap as well! He doesn't seem too hot but it sounds like a lot...

I'm going to ring my friend today who is donating her cot as I think its time for Hamish to make the move. I'm waiting for her 3 year old to be weaned into a bed and am not sure how that's going. Thanks everyone for the tips on moving.

question: how dark does everyone keep bed rooms during the day? I'm worried that the move to the cot will be harder to control the light and make it harder to sleep (more distractions in the room)...maybe it doesn't matter though.

toys: just this week Hamish is showing more of an interest in toys and is grabbing more at the toys hanging from his playgym, he's also showing more interest in the mirror. This morning I put him in the gym and next thing I looked he'd levered himself in a 180 degree arc! Not doing any rolling though.

Have decided to do a major kitchen reno - to make our open living/dining/kitchen more Hamish friendly. Very exciting but it might mean going back to work earlier....is it worth it?

am babysitting my step-grandson :eek: on Monday who is just over 2 (Hamish's nephew!)so don't be suprised if I come back with a change of heart on a second child :laughing: . DH's son's partner is 18 weeks pregnant as well and he had to take them to emergency yesterday as she started having strong contractions! They stopped and drs seem to think she's ok but scary as they didn't really have any explanation.

Oops, kissed the blarney stone this morning.
happy weekend all
kx

Tabby
14-04-2007, 13:51
I guess it must be cheaper living in Melb after all :laughing:

ahhhhh maybe not, we found it for 19.99 :D at super iga, so am happy about that...chemist for emergency's only :thumbsdown:

Tabby
14-04-2007, 13:58
question: how dark does everyone keep bed rooms during the day? I'm worried that the move to the cot will be harder to control the light and make it harder to sleep (more distractions in the room)...maybe it doesn't matter though.

freddie, i keep her room as normal. Prefer her to know day from night and not get confused. Thats just my way though :D

Karrina
14-04-2007, 14:24
Ahhh some time for personals finally

Sugar - have a great time at the wedding, it will be strange but nice for you and DH to have some 'couple time' no kids!:hugs:

Shazza - isn't it great having large family functions especially when you have a new family member to show off to everyone!

Tired Mummy - I had those pelvis problems when I was pregnant, it's very painful and hard to walk too. Hope it's on the mend...I had to see the Chiro

Victoria - I would be grumpy too with all that interrupted sleep!

Freddie - Yes I like to darken the bedroom during the day as much as possible, I use drawing the curtains as part of the map routine

Us - Poor little DD (4) isn't getting the attention she needs (due to Billy's poor settling naps) and is turning into a horror! Her attitude is that of a teenager - very, very cheeky and she has just started telling fibs. I got so angry with her I threatened to send her to the 'naughty girls home' WTH? (Flashback to my own childhood) - were any of you threatened by your parents to be sent away? I felt so bad...and stressed and I felt like I wasn't managing to get anything done in between all the disruptions. :gloomy: I also sent her to her room 2 times today for cheekiness. Not sure what to do, if Billy settled a bit more I would have time to attend to her. Oh well I will figure it out....

There is a thread about stay at home mums - I am due to go back to part time work in June and then onto fulltime work in Dec but after reading the thread I am starting to question whether I really want to do this. How are others feeling about returning to work? I am actually feeling panicked by the whole thing....(never had that when I went back when DD was 6 weeks but DH looked after her fulltime). How long is everyone planning on staying at home? and what are your thoughts about working/childcare. Financially it is going to be a struggle for us if I stay on a part time wage but whether it will be worth it :rolleyes: :confused:

bossoflatch
14-04-2007, 15:05
karrina - i know what you mean about cheeky kids my five year old has been a horror lately - and crying all the time - i had enough this morning so i sat him down and told him i still love him and that he doesn't need to cry to get my attention and he just smiled at me and said ' i love you mum' owww how sweet.. (i too find my self in the past threatening to send him outside to sleep with the animals - i told him if he was going to howl like the animals he deserves to be out there with them ... he loves the outdoors so it was too devestating for him!!;) )

hels, - i hope that it does work for you -- i had such a horrible time with my bubs with the silent reflux that she was terrible with sleeps especially after starting the meds - she had no routine as she just slept when she was either so exhausted or not in pain - so once the medicine kicked in and she started napping during the day - i started this straight away and haven't looked back - i just need to get hubby to do it my way all the time :laughing: ... babies love to feel secure - and this way it teaches them that we are always there for them - and especially with a big move to the cot - and at least you know if you go out they don't depend on you greatly to get to sleep .. i never learnt this until my ds2 - and then it was too late for him ... so i was adamant that i was going to do it with dd and so far :fingerscrossed: we keep up the great routine.. :hugs: for when you do the big move ..

mim1
14-04-2007, 16:16
hi all !

I'm finally back! :) We've been away for 10 days, I've read a few posts, but didn't have time to reply. I haven't read the last 10 pages though, so I will just need to reply to posts from here on in. Hope you are all well and had a great Easter! Josh loved chocolate flavoured breast milk :).

It's been an up and down couple of weeks. Josh has had some really bad days (screamed from 3pm til 1am on Good Friday - not the whole time, about 1/3 of the time) ... and some really good days (slept from 11:30pm til 9:30am Easter Sunday morning). Yesterday wasn't great with dh up with him til 12:30am. He's been unhappy the whole afternoon today too ... he's slept for a total of 45 minutes since we got home over 5 hours ago.

Speaking of which, he's getting more and more upset in the bassinette at the moment so I should go.

Question: is there any treatment for colic that does not make reflux worse? Josh seems to have colic and that's one of the main reasons he's staying awake. Infacol makes his reflux 10 times worse.

really gotta go ...

SammyG
14-04-2007, 16:17
Happy Weekends everybody!

If anyone needs a Huggies Wipes Bar Code PM me and I will send it out this weekend. I had been squirelling away nappies codes since M was born in the hopes that huggies would have another giveaway so only had to go out and buy a lotion today (which I actually needed) Took me a while to print out the form from the website but I persevered and the site sorted itself out. Tip, if you are using codes from cardboard boxes peel the top layer of paper off to make it less bulky for the post.

M did his usual 8hrs last night but still feeding every 3hrs on the dot during the day. Are other BF bubs stretching longer between day feeds or is this common?

Sugar, hope you are enjoying your time away from the kiddies.

Karrina, I'm not contemplating going back to work even part-time till after end of financial year. If DH is doing well at work I will stay home a bit longer. I'm lucky that I can pick up casual work whenever I want it but on the other hand I cannot afford childcare and can only work Thurs nights and weekends when DH is home from work. If Mum retires as planned this year I may be able to do more.

Hels, we are moving into the big cot soon. We have the added bonus though of moving DS1 into a big bed. He still does cartwheels in his sleep so I am a bit worried how this will go!

Freddie, I have always had block-out curtains drawn in bedrooms for sleeps, this also helps with sleep-ins in the morning, DS1 rarely rises before 7:30am.

*Sparkles*
14-04-2007, 17:19
Karrina - I work from home and I was going to put R into daycare 1 day a week for about 5 hours so I could keep everything up to date. But now I don't want to as he is such a little mummy's boy. And I really don't want to be away from him at this stage. So DH and I have an arrangement that I will do most of my work at the weekends when he looks after R. We did this today, I finally finished the books at 3pm (started at 7.30am) but I had 2 month's worth of figures to enter plus the BAS to do (for 2 businesses!) Now I am all up to date :yelclap: and I'm going to do a little bit everyday when R is asleep so it doesn't fall behind again.
We are just about managing on a lowish wage plus we get maximum family assistance and a health care card. I don't think I will go back out into the workforce again until we are finished having kids.

Tabby - Well done for finding the formula at a more reasonable price :D

Early night for the 3 of us tonight and my turn for a little sleep in tomorrow :smiliedance: Then we are spending the day at the Home Ideas Show in the city.

bossoflatch
14-04-2007, 17:30
mim - is josh still on medication for his reflux - i know tayla 's peadiatrician said not to give her any colic remedies for a)they make matter worse (as unforetunealty you have found out :( ) and b) chances are it is not colic but a little acid rise.. - Tayla is on the losec now - which has been great but sometimes she does get quite unsettled whilst going to sleep and we are still able to give her abit of mylanta about 2mls every few days... i know i went to give her infacol and /or infants friend and pead said not to give her too much when on medication - so you can see if the meds helps or not - maybe if josh is on medication he needs it increased (you said sometimes he has great days and others he is unsettled - he may need alittle mylanta or he may just need his meds increased... just a thought)

sammyG my bubs is bf and she sleeps about 8 and half to 10 hours over night - she generally feeds about 3-4 hours during the day - most days if she has feed and slept really well i will give her some boiled water :eek: i know they say not to give boiled water when bf - but most days if she is having a great day and playing and not looking for a feed i will just offer her some water .i find the boiled water holds her over another hour or so - i mean when she sleeps so well at night i don't mind that she is on the boobie when she feels like it as sometimes i have just given in when she is grizzly and given her a feed after only 2 hours ... i guess what i am trying to say is - try some boiled water maybe at 2.5 hours after the feed probably about 30-50 mls for the first couple of times now i routinely give her 60mls during the two day feeds... and she is content during the day doing this...

for example if she feeds at 6am first feed, she will feed about 9.30 then have water about 11 /11.30 and then booby at about 1pm some more water about 3.30 and then feed again about 5/5.30 she wont have any more water as i feed her about 8.30 and she will go down for the night .. (and sometimes ie if i am going to work - i feed her about 10pm topup feed whilst she is sleeping - only two nights a week she has a topup - so i don't have to express at work !!)

Charis
14-04-2007, 19:27
I feel I should know what a Huggies wash cloth is???? hmm?

Nappy barcodes to you Tabby :)

H is b-fed and feds 6-8 times a day, 2.5-3.5 hrly during the day and 5.5-4 hrly at night. He feds for a short time at some feds a (10min)nd really really long sometimes too, like now (50mins).

Freddie hope all is well for yr nephew + partner.

Karrina, I kept working up to the week of birth..though Xmas holiday time for us all and it was a bit quieter. The first few weeks with H, I think I did more work than I do now. Have lost the care/enthusiasm for it. V different to my previous self! Still prob 10hrs a week just keeping the business running, but now only when he's asleep. Whereas I used to answer the phone while feeding and keep up meetings etc. Now I let it ring and I put forwrd my apologies re meetings. I do like it still for a few hours. But v happy being a S(mostly)AHM. Its hard though. :wave:

*Sparkles*
14-04-2007, 19:59
I feel I should know what a Huggies wash cloth is???? hmm?



LOL. They come in a box of about 14 and are impregnated with soap. The idea is to wet them to lather them up and then wash the baby. I use one everytime he has a bath :thumbsup:

Tabby
14-04-2007, 20:29
Nappy barcodes to you Tabby :)

Thanks Charis! :hugs:

Well after saying how Katie has never fallen asleep rocker/play mat etc she did tonight lol
We were eating dinner ( she had had hers ) and she was watching telly with us and knew she was getting tired so popped dummy in to let me finish dinner and she looked over at tv and then that was it lol. So grabbed her up and popped to bed. Hope she does it occasional day nap, would be nice to just leave her there and get used sleeps no wraps maybe.

2s'nuff
14-04-2007, 21:06
Hi-ya Girlies,

Barcodes...like SammyG, I've been storing them since DD1 arrived, so have more than enough. JacStar and Bossoflatch, if you still need some, PM me the required number and your address. Same goes for anyone else.
Tabby...Hate to tell you this, the bedtime/waketime problem doesn't ever seem to stop. No matter what time DD1 goes to bed, she's up by 6am :banghead: .
Karrina...I'm returning to part time work next week (Wed, Thur and Fri). I want to go back to work, get the brain working again and in person talk to someone daily over 3. But not overly keen on going back to the company I work for and the project I'll be on. Sydneysiders might hate me, but I work for the company who are implementing the new smartcard system. TJ had three days at daycare this week gone and seems to have settled ok. I now just have to get organised and in a routine for work mornings.

Another good night from TJ last night. :fingerscrossed: its the same tonight.
TJ is always chewing on her fist, anyone else finding this? She'll even push her dummy out to munch on it.

Long sleeps to the bubs,
Lisa

2s'nuff
14-04-2007, 21:12
Another thought...at least I had it while still online tonight...I have a Grobag Egg room thermometer in TJ's room (used it for DD1). I find it fantastic in winter, as I can, in the midnight/early morning blurriness, tell at a glance what temp her room is.

http://www.grobag.com.au/growbagegg.aspx

Tabby
14-04-2007, 21:25
MouseB: Katie certainly does prefer the fist over the dummy too, today she was enjoying it so much she was making the biggest slurp sounds lol.
She even has fist in mouth during bath last 2 nights.

Aww bugger guess Ill stop postponing her bed time when I can then if its to no benefit.
was worth a try :laughing:

Glad TJ has taken to day care ok and seems your finally getting regular night sleeps :fingerscrossed: for you also that they continue especially with back at work soon youll need em even more.

Karrina
14-04-2007, 21:59
Mousebrown - yes Billy has a fascination with the fingers in the mouth but also wants the dummy in there at the same time (when he is settling for a nap), the drama is he knocks the dummy out and then cries for it. He isn't just happy with the fingers. I think this is why we are having so many dramas with his day naps and the fact that I no longer swaddle his arms (he gets too grouchy).

In returning to work what happens with your eldest DD?

I am lucky that my boss is allowing me to work 1 1/2 days from home and the other 1 day at work when I go back in June which means that I only have to get childcare for one day a week for both of them:thumbsup:

Us - not happy! We went out for my birthday (which is on Monday) at the Lasseters Casino as they were having a 'Seafood Saturday', all you can eat seafood at a cost of $37 per head. We decided to try it out and were very dissapointed :( . All they offered were cold prawns, mussells and oysters and then in hot food chicken, beef curry and roast lamb??? WTF??? I don't eat raw oysters or mussells. What a waste of $90 all up....I would have expected some cooked fish, calamari maybe garlic prawns. Thats the drama of living in central australia!!! Very expensive food and lack of choices. It was such a shame as we very, very rarely can afford to go out for dinner especially for $90 - I wish I had bought myself a nice outfit or had a massage or something. POO POO!:crying: . Billy was looked after by his auntie while DD came along and drove us crazy!

Charis
14-04-2007, 23:49
Hi all :wave:
Hels LOL about the wash cloths THANKS! They sound useful.

Oh yes, also hands are very exciting here..the dummy is certainly in the way.

Poor H was all unsettled. His Dad was here after we took a walk, v nice. I know Steve Biddilup says (stereotypically) we 'calm them down' and the blokes 'stir them up'. Well in my book bedtime isn't when 'stirring up' should happen. But i mostly bite my tongue as at least he's in his life. HMM But seeing as we've just had an argument I can lash out (on here!)

I am about 100% sure that its not even worth questioning.. but H's Dad just walked out in a big huff after asking me what I did with the governments $4000 MATERNITY allowance. I said it was great, I paid off 'bad debts' with it (credit card). What you do when your income is halving or thirding..or perhaps quartering (too scary to work out). He got all high and mighty saying it is meant for H! Bollocks, I said, its in lieu of maternity leave pay. I am sure I am right, and just sat quietly reading the paper while he slammed the door and left. But feeling a bit sad about it all now. Just tell me I'm right :)

Karrina, I hope your lovely DP gives you a massage for your birthday :smiliedance: Pity about Lassiters. I guess they have trouble getting the seafood consistently. HAPPY BIRTHDAY for Monday!!

Happy sleeps all. Thanks for listening, feel better already :yes:

Tabby
15-04-2007, 07:29
Charis: We did the same with the mat payment!
We had purchased everything for Katie before as you do so when it came we paid of cards and bills and brought a couple more things for her.
My opinion, As we had gotten everything beforehand out of weekly pays we were reimbursing our selves with it.
Also it made it so we can purchase things as needed with the pay each week as there was little bills ( till dp lost job it sorta backfired) BUT had we not we would have been in dire straights.
We paid of our ge card and then reloaded it with a aircon ( comfort for Katie ) and new lounge.
I dont feel one bit guilty as we felt we did it right.
Sometime men just dont see the big picture.:banghead: Paying off the bills etc frees up money to buy as needed week by week etc and financial stress is relieved too and as said you would have brought everything before he was even here so its reimbursement, you have everything !
Hope he realizes soon and things get back on track. Maybe if you explain that way , not that you should have to explain imo but well men huh? Sometimes need to draw a picture to get it across lol

Katie slept through as usual but woke a few times, still wrapped and snug but grizzly, easy to fix, eyes still closed asleep so dummy in and back to bed for me so thats ok.
ok sorry in advance for brag time...
Cannot get over how such a happy baby she is!
No matter how tired/early/poo or wet bum she never stops smiling. Everyone else who knows her says so too. She can be dead tired and still break out the happy face to greet them.
Am very very lucky.
Only time she grizzles is when Im a bit slow on the uptake that it is a hungry noise, that starts off softly but gets louder if its not happening lol
Its still not a a scream/cry though. :D



Hope all had a good sleep

Tabby
15-04-2007, 08:16
I tried Katie again to sleep unwrapped in porta cot and SHE IS!!!!!
Shes just nodding off quite happily now, should be asleep by time done here
oh please please be the end of needing to be wrapped lol

any excuse for a pic I know sorry lol but am so happy shes finally done it I wanted to share it!
http://picasaweb.google.com/Kaitlyn2006/KatieAndFamily/photo#5053436292149505858

Yes theres a teddy in there, norti mummy but its attached by the ears over the side so cant fall plus shes right near me, Ide never have them main cot. Its something for her to look at while trying to get to sleep.
20 mins so far and counting! long as its min a hr thats good, she used to wake continually if unwrapped

*Sparkles*
15-04-2007, 08:38
Charis - My argument about the mat benefit is that we had already outlayed that money in setting everything up for R in the first place, so really we were getting re-imbursed (same as Tabby said). Plus I had to spend a further $2000 on surgery to repair "down below". And DH lost about a month's worth of income all up. So in actually fact, we have gone negative and had to re-draw on the homeloan to compensate. Anyway, that is besides the point. I think what you did with the money was very justified :thumbsup:

Us - R was tucked up in bed by 10pm last night and so were we! He woke briefly at 2.30am but went back to sleep with his dummy, then it was 5.30am :smiliedance: He went back to bed at 6.15am and only slept until 7am, so today DH has been up since then.
I got a little sleep in today but when I got up DH was on the blardy laptop again and nothing had got done! R was sitting crying in a pooey nappy too. What is with these blokes? :banghead:

We are off out to the city soon, or as soon as it's taken me an hour to clean the place up :mad:

aries_moon
15-04-2007, 10:47
morning all, long time no post...........Hope everyone's been having a great weekend!!

We made the 2nd attempt last nite to do the switch into the cot from bassinette, was very sad but he's far too big for bassinette now. Took a few attempts to finally settle, but got there in the end. Only hitch was that he woke at 3 for a feed and usually always goes straight back down but this time he cried, think he was a bit scared:(

we've now got the fist sucking going on too, quite cute noise really.....

TABBY, great work on the unwrapped sleeping, must be heaps easier...X never stayed wrapped, so glad we never had to rely on it for sleep.

CHARIS, as far as i'm concerned re: mat. payment...YOU were the one that carried H and gave birth to him, so the $$ is YOURS to do WHATEVER with, don't feel sad about anything, u know H isn't going without in anyway either!!

well not much planned for us here today, is a lovely overcast day, am hoping for rain as it's supposed too....I love the rain :fingerscrossed: X stays asleep for more than 30mins now:rolleyes: take care all.....

Charis
15-04-2007, 11:09
:wave: Thanks Hels+Tabby+Aries!!! Makes a big difference in moments of sadness + doubt.

I do know blokes feel a bit 'out of it all' but telling us what/how to do things is pretty silly. Hels hope yr day got better and and home ideas expo was good too. I do so know that 'on laptop, while R crying with pooey nappy' gist so well. And Hs dad and I don't even spend that much time together.

The bit that gets me often is his Dad doubting what I say about H, ie I say he's about to go to sleep, 'no I don't think he is'.. oh and last night lovely H had done a very loud movement and obviously a nappy change was required..'I ll do it in a moment' he says.. 'if you don't do it soon the whole outfit will need to get changed' I say, of course thats what happened and the wrap all laid out for wrapping. Hmm I guess if they were as 24/7 + did the washing they would do what we do. Sorry venting day!!

:smiliedance: to Cordelia for having your little family back ??

Tabby, gorgeous gorgeous about the smiles all day long. Giggles too? We just have silent chuckling here, v cute, but waiting for an out loud one.

Great great about the unwrapped sleep. They are certainly becoming more safe/comfortable with the world and the big things like sleep/eat/digest :)

Aries, WOW :hugs: for Xavier and you and his big bed! Yes the time is certainly nigh. Am sure X will feel much more safe and at home in it tonight. Nice cuddly weather to be with his 'folks' today.

Mousebrown yes, gotta get one of those grobag egg thermometers!! Good reminder.

Post hog is back, sorry.

Happy Sundays all !!

Strawberry_Shortcake
15-04-2007, 12:59
Hi Ladies,

Charis - I'm totally with aries moon regarding maternity payment. You use it the way you want darl. Mind you i haven't touched the baby bonus yet, saving it for a raining day:D .

Mousebrown - The Grobag egg room themometer is a great idea. Must invest in one of them. Talon is also enjoying his fingers in mouth aswell lol.

Tabby - Don't worry about the teddy bear its not as close as winnie lol. Talon has his winnie right near his face. T loves his winnie the pooh, he sleeps with it all the time.

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s305/kelleigh75/DCP_3069.jpg

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s305/kelleigh75/DCP_3068.jpg

Us - Not much is happening here. T sleeps perfectly now. He slept from 8 to 8 last night :smiliedance:. I have started giving Talon farex and he loves it. Has anyone else started their bubs on farex? If so how much do you usually give them? Just finished doing Talon's invitations for his naming ceremony, which is next month. Now just have to decide on the cake.

I hope you all enjoy the rest of the weekend

Cheers
Kel

SammyG
15-04-2007, 13:11
Strawberry, race out and buy an identical winnie if they are available and start rotating them. Then if one needs a wash or god forbid goes missing you won't have dramas! He looks so cute and V attached already!

Charis, I think all men are the same regarding the urgency of tasks. My DH still thinks of his own tummy before either of the boys much to my disgust. They just don't get it! Regarding the payment, how dare he even question you if he isn't there with you FT. BTW ours went to bills too, of course I would have loved to have kept it though!

Tabby, Katie is a V clever girl in her port-a-cot unwrapped. M has discovered the fist but still needs wrapping but he is still one of the youngest Jan bubs and is a bit behind most. I benefit from everyone else's experiences and am really appreciative.

Tabby
15-04-2007, 13:37
Strawberry: awww thats so cute, specially the first one!
I started Katie on farex 2 weeks ago to help her reflux, started slowly though, 1/2 tsp first day 1 the next and so on till now where she has mix of farex or custards ( 1/2 tin/jar ), and absolutely loves them! Only at dinner time so far.
and wow thats some nice sleep there!

Charis: Vent away hun! very therapeutic :thumbsup:
Have had a few very loud chuckles this last week. just adorable! makes me laugh so much when she does.

Aries: oh yes the bassinet to cot move, very very hard on mum. :hugs: I felt like she had progressed from my little newborn to baby, but its worth it. Theres much to see in the cot and she wakes ever so happy and content to just look around and talk for ages.

Sammy: Yep I was sure the wrapping would never end! It came after she fell asleep for the first time last night on the playmat too, so out of the blue!. Am sure when hes ready will do same but were heading to cooler weather now so no hassles to wrap, will stay nice n toasty warm for the winter lol.

Hels: hope your having fun in the city. Had only just said to DP other day we should head into ours soon, its been years for me!!!

Us: Well after much "hmm is she teething is she not?" I think I have my answer. She was quite grizzly earlier and not sure why so she had some juice/water that made ok for a bit then started up again and seemed hungry so got the formula and she fiddled and fiddled all the time, spitting teat out and crying then trying again, so unlike her!, So got the bonjela and walah!!! She sucked away quite happily instantly and then went to sleep. I figured as much as she had masses of drools today too.

Oh her sleeps are not as long unwrapped but am hoping that will get better too
so far the two naps allready were 40mins and 1hr and now shes down again unwrapped so far 20mins so looking good, hopefully tonight when into her cot will work unwrapped, least its cool so can use the grobag to help.

2s'nuff
15-04-2007, 13:44
Lovely rainly day here in Perth.

Karrina...DD1 has been in daycare 3 days a week since late Jan. Last week she started 4 days again. Will probably take her back to three days once I get setteled back at work. DD1s been in daycare since 5 months of age, so it's just a normal part of her life now. She can wait until she's a 'Schoolie' - currently in kindy group.
happybirthday for tomorrow. So far this year birthdays have been a bit dud (mine was). I vote we have another birthday without altering our age.
Charis...I'd tell ExDP to sod off about the Maternity payment. Ours just went into our bank account, you could say we used it to repaint the roof ($3600 a few weeks ago). Realistically it could have been used 5 times over by now. DH/DP definately don't get the bedtime routine thing. DH is always stirring DD1 up just before bed, then wonders why she doesn't want to go down quietly.
Tabby...Katie looks so cute.
Strawberry...Gotta love Pooh. Definately do as SammyG has suggested and buy at least one other Pooh rug and start circulating. If you don't, there will be hell to pay at some stage later when you leave him behind or lose him. I give TJ some farex (1 teaspoon dry mix) every so often when she doesn't want her bottle at night.

A cr@p night her last night. Was just getting to sleep when DD1 woke at 11.15. She then woke another 4 times until I gave her some Nurofen at 3.45am. TJ woke at 1.30 and 4am for feeds. I think I got barely half an hours sleep at any one time:sleeping: . Luckily it was DH's morning to get up, so I was able to catch up a little bit.

LOL, DH has a messy poo this morning to change, it had gone everywhere :laughing: . I had one of these last week, so no sympathy from me. DD1 told me about it after I got up, she described it as a squidgy poo, that made daddy cough.

Have a great Sunday!
Lisa

freddie
15-04-2007, 18:01
:hugs: Charis, you shouldn't have to be questioned about the mat. payment - as others said, its yours to do with as you fit and you are an eminently sensible person who DP should know will always make decisions in the best interest of your Hunter! ours just went into the bank account too. I figure whatever we do with it will benefit Hamish, he's part of the household here. Actually I think its probably going on the electrical upgrade we have to have.
Those photos of Katie and Talon are very adorable.
yes here as well on DH not always getting it - but he does try and he does listen so I try hard to bite my tongue and let him learn from experience. He had Hamish watching the derby last night before bed time then seemed suprised he was too wired to go to bed at the usual time (not used to the telly or to being taught how to cheer for the team!)...no real consequences except going to be later doesn't translate into sleeping later here either.
DH copped a major poo explosion today as well :laughing: but survived to tell the tale (and had a bit of help cleaning up).
Hamish has been chewing his fists like crazy, I have to keep a bib on him or his shirts get soaked with all the dribble! his new trick is to stare at his fist like he's just found out its attached to him. its very cute.
hope you all had a good weekend
kx

Karrina
15-04-2007, 19:03
Charis - my maternity payment went straight onto the credit cards too! (slowly creeping up again) and is certainly weight off your shoulders for a while. Anyway what would have HE done with it! I think men are a lot more selfish than women (I know that is a generalisation) but I bet if they got it they would buy a motorbike, golf clubs or something dumb like that!

Vikki - oh she is so cute...

Us - :idea: what do people think about Jolly Jumpers, I have been checking them out on E-Bay and kids can start in them at 3 months old. We never had one for DD but I rekon if I was a kid again I would LOOOOOOOVVVE it!:laughing:

bossoflatch
15-04-2007, 19:57
karrina - my bubs has already started in the jolly jumper - she loves it - her neck muscles are great - she even started rolling several weeks ago - i am contemplating buying the jolly jumper play mat that goes on the floor under their feet - coz she just loves going in the thing... that and watching her baby enstein dvd's:p

i really don't need to spend time with her - there are so many new inventions since i had the boys ;) yeah right --- i keep falling in love with her more everyday ... i have started reading to her and she coos back now - owww how sweet ...

Lukeandmattsmum
15-04-2007, 20:25
good evening ladies

There is always so much to catch up on everytime i log on here.

Does everyone get harassed at the shops by strangers wanting to talk and touch your baby. I am so sick of it i am starting to be quite rude to some people. Take last night for example, DF and i went out to dinner with my parents and brother and his wife and took DS2. We were all sitting at the table having entree and chatting away and Matt was a bit upset and i was just patting him over my shoulder when this women comes up to him and starts doing the ' oh darling what's the matter:ecomcity: :ecomcity: '. Then keeps talking to him and starts asking me questions while i am eating. She probably stuck around for a good couple of minutes. Then when Matt really started to cry she turns to me and says 'he must be tired'. How the hell would she know. I thought she was quite rude for coming up to a private party were people are eating and talking and just start talking and touching a child that she does not even know. What are your thoughts on this?

MAT PAYMENT - Ours went on the credit card also.

SLEEPING IN COT - I must of been lucky with both my two. I just moved them gradually to their cot and had no dramas. I would just put them in there during the day for a few days and then one night i just decided to put them in and that is the way it stayed. both my boys were not ones for being wrapped either.

That may be long enough for tonight. Sorry most of it was about me. I will try to keep up more often.

P.S are there anymore Brissie mums that want to catch up this Wed. PM me for the details.

Cordelia
15-04-2007, 20:37
Hi everyone :)

yay! yes Charis.. no more IL's... I spent the ENTIRE WEEKEND on the couch watching cold feet - I feel like my eyes have turned square...

Baby bonus - more commonly referred to as the MATERNITY payment... was put straight on the mortgage...

Jolly jumper - I've just had Caitlin in her's for the 2nd time.. she seems to love it... I'll stick the video up on the net lately... but QUESTION:

I read that you shouldnt' be encouraging babies to stand at this age at is just "false" walking/sitting... therefore doesn't that mean that the jolly jumper is bad?

neh.. anyway, she loves it.

Caitlin is having her first night in the cot tonight - mind you we're just sticking her bassinet in the cot for now.. I dont' know how we'll go without her routine swaddling and then strapping her down to the small mattress with her blankets so that she doesn't kick her legs up in the air.

Anyways, should go give the baby what she wants.. (milk, what else...!)

Have a nice week everyone :)

freddie
15-04-2007, 21:04
sorry if this puts a damper on things but we were told by the physio who came to the parenting class that jolly jumpers and those walker things on wheels are not good for bubs as they put weight on when they're not really ready (ie can't stand themselves I suppose). I was a bit worried as Hamish just LOVES 'standing' all the time. My DH asked his physio and she said absolutely not to let him until he'd learned to roll/crawl/pull himself up (DH was a bit miffed as she said it like he was an idiot who should know better) but I've asked others, including my physio/ pilates teacher and the CHN, who say its ok in moderation if you take some of the weight off them and if they seem ready for it. So, I'd be careful with the jj's and maybe limit the amount of time if you use it? sorry if I'm being a killjoy but thought I should pass this on. Let me know if you hear otherwise!
kx
ps DH thinks my avatar looks like a mug shot! I'll have to take a side view as well then...

Karrina
15-04-2007, 21:20
LukeandMattsMum - Yes sometimes I get the whole stranger attracted to the baby, but I really think it is just that some people are 'in awe' of babies and find them fascinating....who wouldn't . It is when strangers start to 'follow' your 2 year old daughter around the shops, smiling and gazing when you really start to worry! Which happened to my daughter, by a very strange man IYKWIM :shame: he even touched her arm???

Cordelia and Freddie - thanks for the advice on Jolly Jumpers, I think I would still like to get one in moderation for Billy. The 'Elite Jolly Jumper' as it comes with a musical mat they can jump on. Anyone know of any specials?

I think Billy is getting bored with the whole lying on back or tummy (BTW he is getting very good with his neck control and arm control)

DD is back to pre-school tomorrow:yelclap: I spent a good part of the day cleaning out her room. (I was actually looking for where a bad smell was coming from - and cleaned her entire room, sorted toys, winter clothes, vacummed without finding it). I actually think it may be a dead mouse in the roof? as we put baits up there - we also caught 3 mice in traps a couple of weeks ago, but none since. So I hope we have stopped our mice problems. Still gross though not being able to find the smell.

BTW - we are clean people! I think my description of my home is that we are grotty.

Billy had 3 little naps today, one from 9:30 - 10:15, another at about 12 - 1 and then another from 4 -5pm, nowhere near as long as they should be. He did go down for the night at 7pm:thumbsup: and I doubt he will be up again apart from his usual 3-4 hourly feeds.:D

Tabby
15-04-2007, 22:13
Mouse: hope you get a better night tonight.
lol @ dd1's description and daddys coughing.

Jolly jumpers? the ones used on door frames right?
I have none in here!!! All open area! Unless I stuck her up the hallway on bedroom doors :thumbsdown:
I want one damn it!!!!
We will be getting the other though when shes ready, the one on wheels, didnt do my boys any harm used at a early age, so ill continue same, and we have lino all round so she will be able scoot round no problems lol

Lukeandmattsmum: We get approached many many times while out shopping, usually by quite a lot of old ladies and gentlemen as well, not bothered by it at all, am quite flattered that shes so cute they just cant help but come and complement her and talk to her BUT if it was at a private dinner table and we were eating thats a different matter. Dont think that would go down very well at all.

freddie : LOL at mugshot comment.

cordelia: glad you had a nice weekend relaxing, ahh cold feet very very funny show!
good luck with the big move to cot tonight.

Well first night in the cot unwrapped!
Shes in her grobag with singlet and nappy and :fingerscrossed: she will go sleep same as day naps unwrapped.

Karrina happybirthday for tomorrow!!!! :party:

victoria75
16-04-2007, 07:02
Jolly Jumpers: My understanding was they are ok in moderation. You just need to make sure that when they are in it there feet are just touching the ground enoughto give a push so they bounce. Ie: they shouldnt be able to put the feet flat on the ground. Both my boys used it and thats what I did. Will be doing the same again.

Tabby: Now I feel bad b/c we always used to hang the boys in theres in a doorway!!!!

Hope everyone had a good night.

I have a sad day today, my nan passed away last week and we have to empty her place. Not going to be easy for any of us. She was a bit eccentric so heaven knows what we will find.:thumbsdown:

SammyG
16-04-2007, 07:30
Victoria, sorry to hear about your nan, mine passed away last month and it still doesn't seem real. I couldn't get to the funeral in Brisbane as M was only 5 weeks old and DH had to work which was a bit hard. I am treauring all the old photos Mum managed to bring back and have started scrapbooking them.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/scrappysamg/Bub%20Hub/Ivy.jpg

:hugs: To you and your family.

mim1
16-04-2007, 07:46
jolly jumpers ... my understanding is that the talk about not letting them stand is rubbish (that's the opinion of robin barker in baby love anyway). If a baby wants to stand holding our hands why is it such a problem? They obviously have the strength. I think jolly jumpers are ok as long as the baby's feet can touch the ground and they aren't in it for hours on end. You can get a frame for them to hang off, so you don't need to use a door frame. I'll probably get the frame cause I don't trust the door frames in our house.

Bassinette to cot ... Josh was going to move into his cot after we got back from our 2 weeks away, but he was so distressed and unsettled that I thought it would be better for him to stay in the bassinette in the lounge room near us. I'll think about it next week if he's more settled. He still fits in the bassinette, but it won't be long til he doesn't.

bossoflatch ... thanks for your comments about colic and reflux. He has got a few doses of mylanta along the way in the last 2 weeks, but with minimal benefit. I think I'll just have to put it down to overtiredness cause I was taking him out so much and waking him up in the process.

he's waking up so I should go ... it has been 5 1/2 hours since his feed and he'll be VERY hungry any second. Josh is stuck at home for the next week, given the last couple of weeks and how upset it has made him I've decided that he isn't going out, just staying home and sleeping. Good thing dh is off work today and mum will be here on Friday, so I will be able to get out a bit.

really better go ...

*Sparkles*
16-04-2007, 08:05
We were given a jolly jumper as a baby gift, it's a pooh bear one and still in the box. I have been thinking about when to bring it out, a bit early yet for us but I think R will love it eventually.
Tabby - You can buy one that is free standing on a frame.

Victoria - Sorry to hear about your nan :hugs:

I have been awake since 5.30am as R stirred but went back to sleep until 7am, but I didn't!! What a missed opportunity. Then he wouldn't go back to sleep again so I got up. Now R is asleep and I am wide awake... so not fair! I have got an appt with my OB at 12pm today so I can't go back to bed now. Things have healed up well "down there" but there are still some stitches that he will need to take out, as they are irritating me now.

We had a good time at the Home Show yesterday and I saw one of those small round robotic vacuums that moves around the floor all day picking up bits. It was on special at $300 so I just had to buy one. Haven't tried it yet as it's still charging. But I plan to start it when I go out every arvo and come home to a fully vacuumed house :yelclap:
Now all I need is one that does the washing and mows the lawns :rolleyes: :laughing:

Tabby
16-04-2007, 08:09
Tabby: Now I feel bad b/c we always used to hang the boys in theres in a doorway!!!!


sorry didnt mean to do that! :hugs:
I cant even see those doors from the main rooms though and theres nothing there that even she could look at,cept the toilet maybe lol
thats just me, I didnt mean it was a bad thing if did, I certainly didnt mean to offend!

Sorry to hear of your loss. xxxx

Tabby
16-04-2007, 08:16
awww Sammy that is just lovely that scapbook photo!

Mim1: Thats my thoughts too, the standing thing..

I used stand both the boys on my lap and will do the same with Katie, didnt do them any harm.
Wonder what the exact problems that its suppose to cause anyhow?

Hels,mim: thanks re advice jumper on frame. will be looking into that next pay for sure.
oooooo pooh bear one huh :thumbsup:

Hels; lol let us know how the vac goes.
Glad you had a nice day out.

Well Katie went ALL night unwrapped!!!!!
Cant believe she just out of the blue stopped wanting it..she woke once or twice mumbling away but thats not unusual even when wrapped, dummy in and back to sleep, 630am today


oh and again Happy Birthday Karrina!!!

SammyG
16-04-2007, 08:32
Thanks Tabby, and good on Katie for sleeping unwrapped.

Happy Birthday Karrina! :party:

I too will be letting M bare weight on his legs when he is interested (has started already for short periods during playtime) I think he enjoys the different perspective, same as he likes being over anyones shoulder!

Has anyone else done the rotavirus vaccine at home? That's our job for today :fingerscrossed: he keeps it in as I can't afford multiple goes at it!

mim1
16-04-2007, 09:08
how do you give the rotavirus vaccine? I asked josh's paed about it last visit and he wasn't even sure if it was available yet (he said that gp's usually find out long before he does).

SammyG
16-04-2007, 09:21
It's available by prescription and it is 2 oral doses about 10-14days apart. Around $120 for each dose. My GP recommends it for most bubs, especially if siblings or bubs are in any type of care. Apparently not all chemists stock it so sometimes you have to order it in.

victoria75
16-04-2007, 09:32
Thanks for the:hugs: 's. I really needed that.

Sammy G - that is such a gorgeous layout. you should be really proud of it. Treasure all your memories. I know I will. Good luck with the rotavirus today.:fingerscrossed: for you.

Tabby: No need to apologise. I just hadnt thought about how boring it would have been for them. I'll make up for it this time with the little miss.

We are not quite ready for it yet. We havent really worked on the neck deveopment. But hey she has had a lot of sickness in her little life. She will get there when she is ready. Its mainly my fault b/c she always :barf: when she is on her tummy and I get stressed b/c its hard enough to get her to put on weight without spewing it up. We will get there.

Finally happybirthday Karrina. Enjoy your special day.

freddie
16-04-2007, 09:37
:party: happy birthday Karrina - hope its a good one.

Sammy, sorry to hear about your nan and the picture is just lovely.

Mim 1 I agree it feels right to let them stand if they want to so i've been in two minds, its just that the first physio was so adamant its been making me feel bad. But then Hamish is so happy and excited when he gets to stand on my lap! His favourite game is to straddle dad's leg and push himself up and down off the seat in a sort of rocking movement like he's riding a horse. Its really funny. He's also doing two-fist stares now, holds both arms out straight above his head with his fists closed like he's superman!! :laughing:

We get stopped quite a lot too which doesn't really bother me as people are always so lovely but once a young mum came up and told me Hamish had cold feet - what the?? And once we went out for brekky and the woman at the table next to us talked about babies through our whole breakfast. We had to leave as we hadn't spoken a word to each other!

Am a bit tired this morning as Hamish thought it was play time at 4.00 this morning (very unusual for him) then when I eventually got him to sleep I couldn't get back to sleep properly myself as DH was snoring (again) *sigh*. And I have to do my first ever BAS which I was going to start this morning but am doing this instead!

happy week all

kx

Tabby
16-04-2007, 09:53
Victoria, Im sure its not boring though as they would be busy bouncing away. I have just then jokingly said to teen son we will use his doorway as his can be seen from here ( end corridor ) HA didnt got to well :laughing:
I was also reluctant to put Katie tummy time much due to the reflux, always made her spew more. I made up for it by reclining back on lounge with her on my chest, I think it helped...
Of course youll get there and then you wont be able to stop her am sure! Hows the weight gain, better?

freddie: Ah we had a few of those 4am play times a few weeks back, not fun when your all bleary eyed and need a coffee lol

I have the worst sense humor ever im sure!
Teen ds2 has just broke his comp chair with a HUGE thud! I thought he had brought the table down comp and all. Luckily his bed was behind him and his head went on the mattress. Kept telling him to stop leaning back or it would happen...How do I know? because I did it a few yrs ago but my head hit the wall..
We had a good laugh about it though as he was laying still like it when I ran up there and just goes " HEY well at least my head hit the bed!"

Shazza
16-04-2007, 10:37
Hi everyone :wave:

Ok some personals first:

Hels - Hope all the changes are going well with R and you'll have to let us all know how well the robot vacuum went (god I'd love one of those!)

Tired*mummy - ouch about your pubic bone - hope you are feeling better soon and S is going ok after her needles!

Freddie - I try to keep Coop's room dark but bit hard in arvo with the sun pouring in. I just turn him against the wall so he can't look at the window and it seems to work.

SammyG - Good luck with the medicines today!

Victoria - sorry to hear about your Nan. And cleaning out her house will be full of happy and sad memories too :thumbsdown:

Karrina - happybirthday Hope your DD will be better for you today! Sorry to hear you didn't have a good b'day dinner - you'll have to do it all again!

mim1 - re the colic. at one stage I was putting a heat bag on Coops lower tummy to help relax muscles/ease pain a bit so he could sleep. I don't know if it is recommended by health care professionals but it seemed to help us.

Charis - don't feel bad about the mat payment. We used ours for the mortgage and general living expenses so DH could have time off work to be home/hosp with us.

Bossoflatch - can I ask what sort of books do you read? Kids books or adults books? I heard somewhere it doesn't matter what you read so long as they can hear your voice.

Us:

Fist sucking - yep Coops has got it down pat now. And he puts in his thumb and 2 fingers and then slowly pulls the 2 fingers out so he can suck his thumb :shame: I normally know when he's awake now cause I can hear the sucking going on.

Jolly Jumper - I have a jj for Coops but haven't used it yet cause I'm not sure his neck muscles are strong enough (my fault for not enough t/time). He does do his stand up thing when I'm holding him though and seems to love it. I figure it's their way of building up leg muscles to start crawling and they won't do it if they are tired so why not!

Trip to Family Gathering in Casino - Well it was a big trip for poor Coops and he doesn't like the car much (strange I know) so he was quite cranky by the time we got there! He did really well with all the oldies though nursing him etc. I basically didn't see him all day except to feed him and put him down for a nap!

On Sat night he did the biggest pooiest nappy every. At 4.00am he woke up unsettled so I was giving him cuddles when he started to let rip (woke DH up). Then I felt wetness on my leg so I was at DH then to "turn on the bloody lights" Got up and ran over to changemat with him dripping all over me, the carpet and bedspread! Got him on the changemat and he had filled his nappy front to back and he needed a change of clothes cause he had got himself as well! And he just layed there laughing at me while I changed him - cheeky bugger. I hope DH gets it next time!

Anyways must go and have a shower while he is still asleep!

Cheers, shaz:-)

2s'nuff
16-04-2007, 10:52
Hi-ya,

Jolly Jumper... DD1 loved it. Haven't got it out for TJ yet, but will do so soon (now that I've been reminded about it). We also had a big ladybug play thing for DD1. She would sit in it and play with the bits and pieces attached. Though she was so little that I had to have a couple of phone books under her so she could touch the ground:laughing: .

TJ is not well. She's had diahorrea (sp?) for the past 24 hours. Aside from that she seems fine - laughing, taking, sleeping etc. She's asleep at the moment, but when she wakes I'll have a good look at her and maybe take her to the docs. Just what I need on the week I return to work...might even have to call in sick my first day:eek: :laughing: .

Had better go, DD1 calls....

Lukeandmattsmum
16-04-2007, 12:50
happybirthday Karrina :party:

When i had my big vent the other night about people approaching bubs i was still quite peeved about the women at dinner. When people talk to me at the shops about bubs it doesn't bother me to much, because like any mum we all like to hear how cute our kids are. I was just really p%$#ed off at this women who seemed to want to talk forever while we were eating. I just thought it was very rude. OK i really need to get over it now.

In regards to bubs standing my auntie drives me insane by always saying he will be bandy legged if he stands all the time when he is little. :laughing: . I think if they are strong enough to push up and stand a little bit of time like this is not going to hurt.

The little girl i used to look after never wanted to put any weight on her legs and even now at 17months of age she is only just trying to cruise around furniture. She just doesn't want to stand at all.

Tabby
16-04-2007, 13:11
In regards to bubs standing my auntie drives me insane by always saying he will be bandy legged if he stands all the time when he is little. :laughing: . I think if they are strong enough to push up and stand a little bit of time like this is not going to hurt.


I get the bandy leg comments of mil regarding cloth nappies, drives me insane, she used sposies through all her 3 and ive used both all 3. but to each her own, I prefer my way not hers. She was quite surprised to hear I was even thinking cloth before dd's arrival and keeps offering to buy sposies. She makes such a big deal of her HUGE bum and bandy legs when shes in them while they visit. :banghead:



MouseB: oh dear sure hope TJ is better today.
:hugs: to TJ

cheeki: Sorry to hear the night away didnt go too good. mil keeps asking us there ( country ) and I only have one and keep putting her off.
The drive alone would be a bummer should she decide dont want to be in the car never mind should she want her own bed.
mil is having a hard time accepting why we havnt been there as yet hohum...

freddie
16-04-2007, 13:18
hey Tabby I don't get the bandy legged comments? I look at Hamish's hips and am in awe of how flexible they are! The cloth nappies just keep them more in that open-hipped posture don't they? It must be a very western thing...I've been going to yoga for years and working on those hips to do poses that are natural in places where squatting is the norm!!!

*Sparkles*
16-04-2007, 13:26
happybirthday Karrina!

Tabby - LOL at your DS, glad he was alright although spewing about the chair I expect?

Lukeandmattsmum - I would be annoyed about the nosey woman too. A few words is ok, but 2 mins is outstaying your welcome!

Mouse - Hope TJ is better soon, lots of nappy changing in your house today I expect.

PMSL @ the bandy legs comments girls! Sheesh, some people have no idea, do they? I'm pretty sure Reece had bandy legs at birth even before the first nappy ever went on him lol.

Reece has also been doing the straight legs thing for a while. Sometimes he won't sit down on my lap or go in his pusher as he makes himself all long lol. I can't stop him standing on me if he wants to! I'm sure these things are all fine if done in moderation. Honestly, there are so many do's and don'ts around these days from the so called "experts" :mad: I get fed up with MHN, MIL or anyone else for that matter telling me what I should or shouldn't be doing with R. I'm sure us mums know what we are doing. (ooops, sorry a little vent there lol)

I just got back from seeing the OB, he removed my last few stitches and has given me the all clear, so I don't have to go back again YAY!
He also said we can BD again in 2-4 weeks :eek:

I'm feeling a bit :devil6: ATM, I think it's PMS as AF is due again any day. I hope no one upsets me today or there will be all hell to pay!!

Finally, my doctor didn't mention the rotavirus vaccine, what is it for?

Jenko
16-04-2007, 13:39
Hmm, my gp didn't mention the rotavirus either. I asked the nurse when he wasn't in the room and she mumbled something about it being only for kids that got sick. I didn't know enough to question her, but I knew that I'd seen some bubs getting it on here and that you still had to pay for it. I might ask him next time.

Baby Bonus - went on credit cards here too.

We went to my parents for Easter. I was a bit worried about Koby sleeping somewhere different, so we took his bassinette. Worked a treat, except for one night when he woke at 11, 2 and 4am. Went back down easy enough though.

It's a 5.5 hour drive. Usually takes us between 6 and 7 hrs due to numerous stops. On the way back we dropped in on friends for an hour. Had a few stops for feeds and nappy changes and got caught in awful traffic around Byron Bay/Brunswick Heads.

At one stage we had to pull over to the side of the road and let DD do a wee between the open doors over the bushes, we weren't going anywhere.

We left mum&dad's at 8am and got home at 5pm. Long long day. Kids were both really good, thank goodness. I gave K a dummy in the car, it seemed to settle him which was good.

DD has just woken up with her cranky pants on :rolleyes: she seems to like wearing them a bit lately.

Cordelia
16-04-2007, 13:41
Hi everyone,

Well, Caitlin now weighs 4.6kgs.. which is .5 in 3 weeks... at least she's consistent!! I notice some of the bigger babies are really slowing down in mother's group....

rotavirus - immunises them against a form of gastro which can be fatal in babies... you have to get 2 doses before they turn 6 months and they cost you - $140 each i think. We asked our doctor about it and she said not to bother because it's quite rare and it's expensive and they pick up lots of things from childcare and they're not immunised against. Personal choice I guess. We chose not to in the end.

I can't believe that Caitlin is due for her 4 month needles in a week.... WHAT THE.

I'd better get back to doctor fill wth my lean cuisine meal (which btw are $7 for 2 from woollies this week ;) !)

Tabby
16-04-2007, 13:49
Tabby - LOL at your DS, glad he was alright although spewing about the chair I expect?


He stole mine!!!! heh but I offered it as I get off regularly, he spends more time there ( home schooled and a comp nerd ) lol

I totally agree Hels re the "advice" out there now, Enough to make my head spin!
I follow my instincts, so far its got me through 2 teenage sons and now so far dd juuuuust fine :D Its truly amazing what comes naturally in a mother. Im not saying none of the advice is warranted, just my way of thinking seems to work for us:thumbsup:
I read/hear the advice but still go with what I feel is right not others.
Does that even make sense???

katie isnt sleeping well today after such a great night no wrap. Shes in the swing now finally asleep, wasnt grumpy just restless for some reason. oh dont they change in a second lol

Tabby
16-04-2007, 13:56
oh missed your posts

:wave: Cordelia and jenko

Glad the trip went well.

cordelia: yes we are joining you re needle again in a week. :hugs:
Where did that four weeks go???? :eek:

sugar n spice
16-04-2007, 15:02
had our break from the kids with mum looking after them. We went to perth for the wedding and it was really nice. Lots of food and alcohol. caught up with my relatives on yesterday and then came home. So it was a quick trip up to perth saturday morning and back sunday night. 4hr drive and not fun last night when we could hardly see the rd it was bucketing down that much.

Ashton had his needles today and is fast asleep in his cot.

hels - thats great you have your stitches out

Tabby
16-04-2007, 15:59
Sugar: Glad you had a lovely time.
:hugs: for needle day! Hope hes doing ok.

*Sparkles*
16-04-2007, 16:25
:hugs: to those having their needles soon, are they the 4 month one's already? :eek:

I have just been laughing my head off watching the robot vacuum do it's thing. It just did the kitchen floor and it's pretty good. When it finishes it finds the docking station and puts itself to bed to re-charge :laughing: I found this hilarious to watch. Isn't it funny how laughing is so contagious as Reece joined in laughing with me (or maybe at me?? lol). Those sorts of moments are really bonding with a new baby, aren't they? :kiss:

dragonflyblu
16-04-2007, 16:34
charisit is a maternity payment, paid to YOU, the mother not to the baby. It is to use as you see fit in order to assist you in looking after bubs. I hate it how people think they have the right to interpret what they think the payment is for and then cast judgement. You are right and dont let anyone tell you otherwise.

tabby very cute pic! never wrappen clea so luckily I have had this problem. she sleeps anywhere. in fact she is asleep on the floor in the lougeroom right now. If only she would sleep longer than 3 hours! We use cloth too. When I was a baby I had to wear 2 cloth terrys! Had bad hips and this was the treatment. I am not bandy legged.

lukeandmattsmum I get it all the time and while it is nice to have people tell me that Clea is cute, they want to hold her! A complete stranger. I let one shop assistant and then thought "oh S*%t she could have a virus..." so now I just say no.

victoria sorry to hear about your nan. hope the cleaning is not too stressful for you.

So excited, Clea is dying to crawl. After hating tummy time and refusing to put her head up, now she realises she can move herself forward and loves it! her little bum was up today and her legs were moving right, now all she needs to do is work out her arms, she still manages to slowly move a whole body length before collapsing on her facing laughing!

Had a scare today. Clea woke up screaming and her little leg was hanging outside the cot. She tries to use the cot like a ladder and push herself up (dont know where she is going???) she was fine, I was shaken.


Bottles Tried giving Clea an expressed BM bottle so I could have a longer sleep. But she hated it.She gagged and carried on. Wouldnt suck, just licked it. I really didnt want to give her a bottle because I didnt want to start the whole hassle of bottles and also BF babies suck differently to bottlefed babies so it can cause confusion. MIL coming up tommorrow so she can try. Going to go buy a whole range of teats and see how we go. I saw that they can use sippy cup things from 4 months so that might be better, will get one of those as well. I really just need to sleep a whole night. sorry that was a bit of a winge :eek: I just really need sleep, didnt realise it was getting to me so much.

fist sucking Clea sucks her thumb, it is so amazing y cute. Sometimes she sucks 2 thumbs. She even tries to sneak thumb in her mouth during feeds. "mmmm booby and thumb, life is good.... "

Tabby
16-04-2007, 16:45
LOL Hels, small things....:laughing: jk! :hugs:
lol @ Reece laughing too, how cute!
Love your new avatar

dragonflyblu: I cant believe strangers actually ask to hold her?!!!! I think I would be stunned if asked.
Im not too keen on them trying to grab her hand etc while talking, never know where its been!

Well its taken quite a bit to get her down this arvo.
arms going everywhere but I persisted as she has proven she can do it ( all day yesterday and last night ). Finally shes asleep!

The last two days shes not taken her eyes off me and today was even more so, Even when pick her up she looks right into my eyes and doesnt stop and when she was in the pram while cleaning etc and she was just staring at my face and I would look up and she'd smile right at me.
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. wonder what goes through their mind? it looked like she was really thinking while doing it.

victoria75
16-04-2007, 18:09
Dragonflyblu: I was told to use the pigeon peristaltic nipples, they are the closest thing to the boob. We were able to swap btwn breast and bottle no probs. Just thought I'd let you know.

Tabby: Thanks for asking about the little miss. SHe isnow about 4.8kg at 3 months. So we are getting there. She is now only taking about 45 mins to feed so slowly but surely she is devloping the sucking reflex. One day she will be like all the others and done in 10mins. :fingerscrossed: its sooner rather then later.

Well after today I am so emotionally drained no more personals sorry. Hope everyone has a good night.

Thanks Hels for the visual of the vac. Nice to finish the day off with a laugh and how cute Reece laughing with you.

Flicka
16-04-2007, 19:00
Hi there ladies.
Haven't been around much the last few days and there is so much to catch up on.
Jolly jumper - I have been thinking about getting one but I don't think kelsey is ready for one. I understand some people have concerns about baby's hips/back etc in them but I just think everything in moderation is ok.
Letting baby stand - Also a bit of a hot topic but again I think it is ok for short periods. DH and I were looking at videos of DS (2 years) on the weekend and he was much more advanced than Kelsey. I was pulling him up from laying down to standing only by his hands at about 3-4 months old as he was a very strong baby. Doesn't seem to have done him any harm.

Kelsey has been pretty good. She is quite a contented baby and is happy to just lay on her back having a kick. She still isn't fond of tummy time so we are still working on it but I compensate by sleeping her on her tum - figure she wriggles around having "tum time" when she wakes up.
Took Kelsey to the clinic to be weighed and she is 6.9kg at 13.5 weeks and is 62cm long. The nurse said she was 'placid' but I hate that word - makes her sound stupid rather than just happy and contented.
Had a huge argument with DH on the w/end. Mostly about the inlaws but other stuff too. Sometimes I feel like things get on top of me after a while and it only takes a couple of small things to push me over the edge and I find myself picking a fight with DH. To cut it short - I feel like he holds his parents up on a pedestal like they are perfect and it really bugs me. He panders to them so much....sorry for the whinge.

DS has been driving me around the bend. Today it seems like he did the opposite of everything I said....very frustrating but I suppose it is just him testing out his boundaries and independence. Ah the joys of motherhood. When I put DS to bed I told him tomorrow was another day and we would be starting afresh!!!

Trying not to get left behind with the super speed posting! Sorry for the "me" post. Take care.
Flicka xx

Karrina
16-04-2007, 19:52
Thanks for the birthday wishes!!!

But I have been arguing with DH all day :no: :thumbsdown: :gloomy: so it hasn't been a good day.

Thanks again, sort of cheered me up a bit!;)

No time to write anymore, Billy has been 'at it' (trying to sleep for the past hour and half, driving me mental)

tired*mummy
16-04-2007, 19:57
HI Everyone,

Re: The maternity payment... we spent it on stuff that we needed. I bought alot for Sierra, like all her linen and manchester for her cot. Clothes, bottles, nappies etc. Then DH spent $1000 at the dentist and the rest just went on other little things that we needed and we spent $700 on new brakes and stuff for the car. So i think we didnt waste it because it went on stuff that we would have had to do with our normal money anyway.
Re: Chewing Fists... Sierra has started this too. Only in the last 2-3 weeks tho.
Re: Jolly Jumpers... Never had one with DD1 & 2 so dont really know what they are like. Sierra isnt really wanting to stand or anything at the moment so i spose we will decide when she starts taking more interest.
Hels - Thats so cute about Reece laughing with you... Sierra did her first really laugh today. It was very cute, i was playing with her and kissed her in the neck and she laughed...very cute.
Tabby - So cute about Katie keeping her eyes on you and then smiling when you looked at her. Sierra was doing that today with me. MIL was holding her but she was watching and smiling at me the whole time :laughing:
Sierra was a bit sick after her needles. She :barf: a few times and had a bit of a temp. Was a little grumpy on Saturday but has been ok since then. She is getting quite good with her sleeping too. She doesnt want to be rocked to sleep anymore so when she starts to get tired and starts to crack it i wrap her and put her in her bassinet and she goes to sleep by herself. Shes done that for about 2 weeks now so thats really good, DD1 never did that... she always wanted me to rock her to sleep. And after her feeds in the middle of the night or early morning i put her straight back in her bed and she goes back to sleep even if shes wide awake... so quite happy about that.
Sorry for the long post... hope all get a good sleep
:wave:

Charis
16-04-2007, 21:37
Gosh what support! THANK YOU all!!:wave:

Hugs to Karrina and Flicka for arguments. Especially to birthday Karrina!! This kinda time is probably the hardest in a relationship?

V sorry to hear about the losses of Nans for Sammy G and Victoria. A lovely blessing that they and the littleones were around at the same time, although of course far too briefly.

-Dragonflyblu, amazing and wonderful to read your post!! Clea CRAWLING and 3hr sleeps, woohoo. WOW. Maybe she knows you're trying to pack!
-It is hard to do what you're 'supposed to' rather than relax as soon as they're asleep isn't it! Like Freddie and the BAS, I know that so well.
-MouseBrown, hope TJ is going okay and all is set for you for work tomorrow. What a hard first day if she's still waivering on sickness!
-Hels hugs for the AF approach and wonderful about the LOL of R. Still just silent giggles from H. Maybe I need a robotic cleaner too:) Sounds great, grinning just thinking about the 3 of you!Oh yes and so relate to the straight-leg-ness.
-Cordelia, great great you had a lovely couchy weekend. I hope a long long time till the next visitation.

Seeing as you all were such a wonderful support about Mat.Payment will ask another question, this one not so fraught.. I've just turned down the third recent dinner invite I know we do whats best for us and our bubs..I said he shares FatCats bedtime..and am loath to muck that up.. I guess Cheeki28 your amazing and difficult night may be the result..(so hard reading that, you amazing woman!! The 8hr sleeps sounded great after. Hope you had some too.) I guess I'm asking is anyone else taking their bubs out at night, and am I being reasonable not wanting to? Two invites were from non-kid friends and the other much much older kids, maybe people forget.

H has a strange feeding pattern now, three LONG feeds (60mins+)and two short ones(10mins) essentially breakfast/lunch/dinner, morning and arvo tea..and a midnight snack.

Better :wave: and say happy sleeps all. Wonderful women!!

mim1
16-04-2007, 21:46
quick post before bed ...

rotavirus vaccine - M&CHN said it's on the vaccination schedule from july (so free I think), but I'm not sure for what age - does anyone know? I think the vaccinations are different for different states too, so I mean victoria.

speaking of jolly jumpers and standing (ok, so it's only sorta related) ... has anyone else got a bumbo seat? It's a foam seat that the baby can sit in and look around at the world. I bought one for josh a couple of weeks ago but he didn't have the head control i thought he did, but now he does. he looks so cute sitting up in it :)

tummy time ... josh has always loved his tummy and for reflux the babies are often happier on their tummies. BUT, he pretty much always vomits at some point. Usually he lies on his tummy (his little head gets held up so high now) and is happy, then he starts chattering away loudly and seemingly happily ... but that's actually his way of saying "I've vomited everywhere, come and pick me up ... oh and I'm rubbing my hands, face and hair in it, so hurry up!". It's so funny!

My M&CHN today told me to let him sleep in my arms if that is what it takes and to stop worrying about it. She said that this selfsettling stuff is a new idea and plenty of babies in the past were cuddled or fed to sleep and they turned out fine. It's been so much harder to settle josh in recent weeks with all the chaos in our lives, so he's needing pretty frequent cuddles to sleep which was worrying me. I'm trying to deal with it ... it's certainly better than letting him scream.

Really should go to bed ... he's sound asleep.

freddie
16-04-2007, 22:24
hi again,

I had to share this. DH was holding Hamish tonight when he got back from work. I was talking to DH about our day and Hamish was just staring and staring and me and then started laughing every time I spoke. It was SO funny, I haven't laughed so much for ages! He's chuckled before but this was really loud, and the poor little thing still has a croaky voice from his cold, and a real laugh. Talk about heart melting!!

Charis, I have to admit we've only had two dinner invites anyway! The first we went to - it was DH's brother's 50th and Hamish ended up staying up until we went home at 10 o'clock. The second I asked if we could do lunch instead which they were happy with. I would do what you feel is right. If I really wanted to go I think I could get Hamish to sleep in his bassinette-on-pram but not sure about how he'd deal with being woken to go home (assuming he'd wake up). There's plenty of time for dinner parties I say! Oh, my other trick has been to have it at home and family/ friends bring the dinner with them! Bit cheeky tho. Anyway, Its not something I'd do regularly.

night all.
kx

sugar n spice
16-04-2007, 22:57
ashton has been putting himself to sleep for ages now, must be for at least a month now that he has been doing that and the fist thing thats been going on for a few wks also. loves sucking his thumb, after a feed the fist will go in and people say oh he's hungry but i know he's not, its just he loves his little hands. Ashton cracks me up. When i change his clothes he cracks up when i go to take his arms out of the sleeves he starts cackling away. Its so cute

mim1
17-04-2007, 08:17
Baby giggles are indeed very cute! One guaranteed way to get josh to giggle is to brush his hair. It makes him giggle and smile even if he's really tired.

Don't you love it when they wake you up and you think it's time for a feed, but then they go back to sleep? Josh tends to do this in the mornings and I do really love it cause it means I get to eat breakfast and do a few things before he gets up. He fed at 9pm last night, 3:30am this morning (so much for sleeping through he's been feeding at this time for a few days) and then woke me up with his noises (not real crying) at 9am. To my surprise he was making lots of noise, but was still wrapped up with his blanket over him (he's usually unwrapped with legs in the air if he's that awake. I put his dummy in and went to get his medicine ready, but within 1 - 2 minutes he was sound asleep. Yeah!

maternity payment ... it definitely reimbursed us for expenses we already had. We have a fair bit of savings to make up for my not working this year, but thanks to the maternity payment we are yet to touch our savings (not bad given that I've been off work for 5 months). So, technically the money was spent on lots of things, but it meant that we could pay off the credit card and keep our savings in our savings accounts.

Tabby
17-04-2007, 09:02
Morning all

Katie has rolled tummy to back 3 times since yesterday, she even showed DP this morning before he went to work! Her face each time has been like " ummmm what just happened??" hahhaha

victoria75: Thats the same weight Katie was at 11 weeks, So thats pretty good yes, considering?
Hope your feeling better today and rested

Karrina: Sorry to hear was a cr@ppy day for you.
Hope todays better :hugs:

Tiredmummy: ah nice that Sierra is easy to get to sleep. We have a bit more battle since no wrap but still nothing that is too much hassle, in and out a few times to re-settle but am sure will get better once shes used to it more.
hmm eyes on me seems to have come along with being clingy! . Anyone else got that yet? She likes me to continually watch her or she grizzles, soon as I say yes im here and smile shes all happy again..or I just have a little miss attention seeker lol

Charis: So far weve had no invites.....pfft
but if was I would decline and ask for lunch instead, yep much better idea. I dont want to mess with her routine for even one night. Plus shed get so over tired as whoever would probably want to pass her round all night.
Nope not yet, no nights out for us..As said above theres plenty time later for that for us.

mim: tummy time, reflux makes Katie yuck up, now on AR so only time does is tummy time, so dont like doing it much now, same here after a few mins " Hurry up and turn me over NOW my face/hair is covered in spew mum". :laughing: yep quite funny.

freddie: awwww that is SO lovely!

sugar: lol at his laughing while undressing, maybe he has tickly underarms :p

Katie went through again unwrapped so thats good. She woke twice briefly early am which she did wrapped anyhow.

I was thinking this morning how we attach endearing nicknames.
We call katie Pumpkin. Every morning its " good morning pumpkin!" My grandfather and my father called me that and I only just realized I was doing the same..
Dear granddad is not with us to see her, sadly he died day of ds1's birth so has never seen any of my children, he was the loveliest kindest man.
I feel hes a part of it all though with the "pumpkin" name :thumbsup:
Anyone else call theirs a special nickname?

Flicka
17-04-2007, 12:07
Hi ladies.
Ohhhh yes!!! The giggles have started here with Kelsey too!!!! More of a chuckle really but very very cute. I rang DH at work and got her to laugh for him over the phone - poor thing misses out on lots of 'firsts' while at work!

Nicknames - Funny you mentioned that Tabby. When i was born my dad called me "Baby" as a nickname and even to this day he still calls me baby. Ever since Kelsey was born, DH and I have called her Squeak because she was always making squeaking noises. I think the name will stick as my mum and dad also use it. We call DS Monkey - not really a nickname you would want as an adult though!!

Mim - was it you asking about rotavirus? Just thought I would mention that they have to have both doses before they are 6 months old so you have to decide fairly quickly whether or not to get it.

Well, kelsey and I are having a quiet day at home. DH is at work and DS is at day care. Kelsey has been asleep for the last 2 hours so I am hoping she will wake soon. I have just been kicking back and reading a book. I also made muffins for DS and DH (but then ate 2!!!).
Take care
Flicka xx

Tabby
17-04-2007, 12:25
lol monkey..Used to call teen son Rat ( rhymed with matt ) Havnt for some yrs now though. Now hes just $%&%#@@ hahaha nah j/k! Hes a great boy!

Just been for a absolutely lovely walk to the shops, Katie was awake the whole way just looking..looking. Lovely chat to lady in chemist, she was quite heavily preg so of course she went all goo gah over Katie.

2 muffins Flicka, I ruined my walk with a chockie!!! :banghead:

oh well was great weather for a walk, may even do again later today.

Flicka
17-04-2007, 12:28
In my defence they were 97% fat free muffins - whatever that means these days!!!

I am just loving being a mum second time around.....our bubs are at such a cute age aren't they.

Speaking of which - her majesty calls.

Tabby
17-04-2007, 12:33
I used to be into baking those, dont taste any different..so yummy...maybe thats what I need do for my chock fixes..start baking things like that again and make sure have for morning tea so dont get so hungry and break down.

Oh yes beautiful age!!! I marvel every day and how she changes and the things she learns..I get so little done, if shes awake im there playing/talking if shes sleep im on comp lol.
Fair though I did a HEAP housework yesterday so I think a day off is in order.

mega good naps today :smiliedance:
2 hrs am one and now is 1 hr and still going

Tabby
17-04-2007, 13:32
I forgot to add, Hels you might be of interest if use avent bottles/teats, I had to get new teats so decided on the variable flow one ( 3 different flows in one teat ) depending which way you turn it.
I was having problems when she had water/juice it was too fast, this way same teat using water or thickened formula. #1 for water #2 start of ar formula #3 as it thickens on cooling if shes taking a while to feed. It worked a treat.

Flicka
17-04-2007, 15:17
Yes Tabby - babies are total time wasters. Oh well, we have forever to do the housework. The little ones are only small for a short time.

I love it when Kelsey wakes from a nap and I open her door and say hello. She stops crying straight away and has a big smile for me. Makes me feel all gooey inside with so much love for this little girl. DS and I sometimes race to see who can get to her first when she wakes up as he wants to get that first smile!!!

I am probably just a bit hormonal and soppy but I really think I am falling in love with my kids more every day. I mean DS can be very frustrating at times but he is at an age where he is ALWAYS telling me he loves me (except for last night when he told me I was a "bad mummy" lol). And with Kelsey, I just feel like we have finally reached a good pattern with sleeps etc so that I can really enjoy her. She has been so cute lately when feeding as she holds onto my shirt and gazes up at me, only stopping to give me a cheeky grin with booby still in her mouth.
Oh gosh, I would love another one and DH is already telling people he wants another.....
Well, off to start getting dinner ready......

2s'nuff
17-04-2007, 15:23
Charis...I think the earlier you start to take bub out occassionally at night the better. Although routine is important, it is also important that they learn to cope when their routine is broken. One night out every so often is not going to ruin his normal nightly routine, but it will give you some time out and something other than baby talk.
Tabby...rolling both ways, very clever! TJ hasn't even looked like rolling over yet.

No laughs here yet, but lots of talking. Any opportunity and she's :ecomcity: .

Only had a realy bad 24 hours. Since then she went 12 hours then 15 inbetween yucky nappies.

Went out this morning to a NOR meet. Met some lovely bubhub mums.

got to go, grizzle time.

Flicka
17-04-2007, 15:28
I'm with you Mouse - Kelsey shows no interest in rolling as yet.

Tabby
17-04-2007, 15:29
Flicka: ohhhhhhhhhhh another ttc buddy?? jk! The lady at the chemist couldnt believe I was trying for another. I explained to her that when they are this good I woulda had 20 kids lol
oh my goodness yes that smile while gazing into your eyes while feeding, makes me think wow you really do love me if your stopping whats so important to you to smile at me awww.

Mouse: No more back to front since though so must have been a fluke. She still tries hard though.
Glad TJ is on the mend. First day back work tomorrow for you isnt it?

2s'nuff
17-04-2007, 15:39
Forgot to add, I call TJ "Gussie" or "Gus". Always called DD1 Goosie, and I'm sure there's a Gus the Goose in a kids book/movie. Either way, it's stuck.

Yep, first day back. Might be a bit frazzled by the end of the week.

aries_moon
17-04-2007, 15:56
just a quick post here..........

please tell me I'm not the only one that has burst into tears in the gp's office after bubs jabs?!?!? Well that's just what i've done...thought I would keep it together jsut fine, but nope think i cried more than he did, he looked so betrayed. I felt like the biggest loser (no pun intended) walking out of there, so just need some reassurance that this is a common occurance!!

CHARIS- I avoid as much as possible going out in evenings only because i'm constantly focused on keeping x settled which means i don't enjoy myself as much as possible. Every now and then seems ok, but H seems alot more settled than X so u may as well give it a go, can always go home if it gets too much......see u tomorrow at kemh??

MOUSEBROWN- have a great first day at work tomorrow!!

must go, heaps to do while x still sleeping,
take care all

victoria75
17-04-2007, 16:14
Aries : You are not the only one. I cried for both my sons and so I got Dh to take the little miss. I was outside in the waiting room and I cried. So needless to say you are perfetly normal. Either that or we both are strange. :hugs: for you and little one. He is probably wondering what all the fuss is now.

Tabby: Yeah for rolling. Thats excellent and I love having my kids close together so good luck with TTC. I gather the older ones were a bit harder on you then Katie.

Charis: We just invite everyone to our house. If people say no, b/c they have kids thats fine. We completely understand. Thats why we just have everyone here. Thats the ebst of both worlds. Our kids stay in routine and we get to keep a social life. Hope it all works out for you. I am a big one for routine. You could run time by my kids. Infact if dinner isnt ready for them at 5, by 5.15 they are going to the fridge etc. It doesnt work for everyone but it works for me.

Speaking of dinner, they are very quiet better go check on them. There could be food evrywhere.

Tabby
17-04-2007, 16:32
Aries: :hugs: Your not alone hun! I had to try soooo hard to keep mine in, my eyes watered but it was bloomn hard ! and I always feel like Ive let her down in some way even though we know its for the best?? I recon this lot next week I will break down as you have, her emotions are much stronger now and I know I will get the look of WHY??? At least they forget fast xxx

With the older ones Victoria I was a solo mum both times! Very hard at times but both turned out just lovely and wouldnt change it for the world. This time around its been very very different, to have dp to share it all with (perg and baby ) is just wonderful! Bah to ds's dads, dont know what they missed I say!

MouseB: All the best for a smooth start to the morning so your off to work nice and relaxed.
Hope the day goes well.

victoria75
17-04-2007, 16:46
Tabby: So glad that you have a supportive Dp. It does make such a difference. Good on him and you. Your Ds's are so lucky to have a mum like you. Many people wouldnt have coped. You must really be enjoying the fact that Dp wants to experience all this with you. Plus you probably have time to take it all in this time.

*Sparkles*
17-04-2007, 17:03
I forgot to add, Hels you might be of interest if use avent bottles/teats, I had to get new teats so decided on the variable flow one ( 3 different flows in one teat ) depending which way you turn it.
I was having problems when she had water/juice it was too fast, this way same teat using water or thickened formula. #1 for water #2 start of ar formula #3 as it thickens on cooling if shes taking a while to feed. It worked a treat.

Thanks, I have got some Avent teats for water but we use the pigeon peristalitic teats for the formula. I have already put needles through them all lol.
I am still getting through the nan so haven't bought any Karicare yet.

R woke at 7am which is his latest time yet :yelclap: and he has been sleeping alot today. I have been busy "eBaying" and doing quite well with it (selling, not buying for once). All extra cash really helps at the moment.

I start a new mothers group tomorrow which I am really looking forward to. (I started one 6 weeks ago but could only go for 1 week due to my post natal complications). Last time R was the youngest at 5 wks, this time he will probably be the oldest at 11 wks. He loves going out now so it should be alot easier for us this time compared to before.

Gotta go now, will catch up again soon.

*Sparkles*
17-04-2007, 17:07
Oh, and he's affectionately known as our little "munchkin" :p :kiss:

SammyG
17-04-2007, 17:51
Hi all!

Charis, I don't take M out at night because I don't take DS1 out at night much either, his nighttime routine is way too important to stuff with. If it was just M we would do it occasionally if it was something we definitely wanted to do. We haven't been out at night together since M was born although we do go out separately. M has his last feed at around 7-8pm and that is a bottle of EBM so I can go easily now. He crashes after the bottle and gets up 8hrs later for a quick 20min feed. It is good for them to learn to sleep anywhere though. Once Ben fell asleep at MG on a rug with all the other 4month olds playing around him. No-one could quite believe what they were seeing as he didn't whinge or anything, just rolled onto his side and off he went. That easy sleeping continued till he was well over 1yr old.

Haven't managed to give M the rotavirus vaccine yet as had to order it in at chemist but instructions say 1st dose between 10-14wks, 2nd dose has to be at least 4wks later and completed before 24wks. It cost $250 for the 2 doses and is not covered at all yet.

Tabby, what a clever girl you have!

Hels, hope you score a good Mothers Group tomorrow and remember if you don't 'click' with them you still have us.

Karrina
17-04-2007, 22:07
Well just thought I would share that it looks like DH and I are seperating...

Hard times ahead :gloomy:

We have been together for 6 years but have been having a lot of problems over the past few years.

I feel really bad for Imani and Billy and I hope we can split without too many bad feelings.

Not sure when I will get on again to BH, I may be driving tomorrow to stay with a girlfriend in SA (about 7 hours drive away) I just don't think we should stay in the same house.

I really don't know what is going to happen with our finances and mortage :thumbsdown:

Oh well, thats us :crying:

Cordelia
17-04-2007, 23:27
Oh Karrina :/ that's terrible - I'm so sorry :(

I hope everything happens as smoothly as possible for the sake of everyone and it all works out for the best in the long run...

Keep in touch and let us know how things are going.

Charis
17-04-2007, 23:57
Oh Karrina!! :hugs: What a hard time for you.

The friend in SA sounds like a great place to head to. Safe trip for the precious cargo of you three.

I know advice is the last thing you'd want now. But do do do try to remember that if anytime was stressful, this is it, you've got two such precious children, with beautiful little Billy having 'good' and 'bad' days, DP probably feeling v v out of it and you've also got the stress of mixed feelings about work. I mean even the most stable amazing capable people would struggle.

Of course if you think the last straw is the last straw I do believe the happier their main carer is the happier and more balanced the kids are.

Gosh all of this going on and I am worrying about turning down invites!! Sorry for 'sweating the small stuff'.

A 7hr drive would normally be a HUGE event on here. So please do be careful, take lots of breaks!! xxxxxx:wave: Well see you back on here soon enough we hope!! Hugs to you and Billy and DD.

Kylie - happybirthday to your Noah!!! WOOHOO precious and more precious with every day. yes it made sense. So did the bit about the kitten, I always thought they were more exhausting than babies..but perhaps that not quite right..but you can't swaddle them or feed them to sleep..or bath them to make them sleepy :laughing:

Tabby
18-04-2007, 08:54
oh Karrina! Am so sorry to hear the news, Know that we are all here for you and if you go SA we will be waiting to hear from you and hope all is well Hugs to you and the kids!!!!
My thoughts will be with you xxxx

bossoflatch
18-04-2007, 09:04
good morning to all - i haven't been on over the last few days - as i don't have internet -

:hugs: :hugs: to you karrina - i can only imagine how hard of a time you are having - DH and i have been talking of seperating of late too .... not sure how things will go over the next few weeks... good luck though

shazza - i have been reading Tayla - little nursery ryhme books - anything out of the boys bookshelf really - and lately i bought her a little fabric book - one which crackles and makes all these noises and she already has her favourite page , as soon as i turn to that particular page she start gooing and gaahing... i love it - absolutley makes my day..

better go -

aries_moon
18-04-2007, 09:10
:hugs: to Karrina!! so sorry this is what you're going through now.....know that we're thinking of you and plz get in touch whenever possible if you can. All the best to you and your cherubs!

mim1
18-04-2007, 09:20
:hugs: :hugs: karrina ... all the best! Sorry to hear your news.

Josh went 9 hours between feeds again last night! Yeah! He'd cut back to 6 - 7 hours (which was still good, but 9 hours is better!). But, he fed at 5am, so I was going back to bed just before 6am and by that stage I was awake and it took me over an hour to switch off ... but I got lots of things planned in my head :).

:geek: - just saw this and had to add it to my post ... it's weird!

Does anyone else get hot when they are full of milk? I find that as my breasts get fuller and fuller I get hotter and find it harder to sleep as a result. It goes away as soon as Josh has fed and I often feel cold then ...

Pices_79
18-04-2007, 09:26
Karrina - so sorry to hear your news!!! Big hugs to you!!!

Hi everyone

I dont know if you remember me - but I was posting last year in the January pregnancy section! I had a little girl called Sophie on the 12th January. Everything is going really well so far although the first few weeks were fairly tough as you would all know LOL!!!

I LOVE hearing all about your little darlings!!!

x
Jo

Karrina
18-04-2007, 09:54
Awwwwwwwwww thanks everyone, brought tears to my eyes....:crying:

I am still here in Alice and trying to make some plans, first ones have been financial - started to claim parenting payment via Centrelink. Cancelling Foxtel/Austar, suspended health insurance, went to see Women's Legal Centre, lowered direct debits for power and water and finally cancelled my car repayments for a few weeks (luckily I had an advance).

DH is at work so I am still contemplating whether to go to SA and we have a dog... DH is being very unreasonable and a bit scarey and I don't feel I can talk to him. He is very, very angry that 'you are taking my world away from me' as I mentioned that maybe if we sold the house I would think of moving to SA. They are so much the bigger plans which no one can predict but he is so angry that I want out that he can't talk to me. :no:

He said some very nasty things last night as I realises that I am not threatening seperation but that I actually want one.

Anyhow, I have some plans in place some money now available and if I need 'out' I can go, still don't know about the dog. I may try to talk to DH when he gets back from work to see how we can plan this...but not sure if he will be prepared to listen.

victoria75
18-04-2007, 10:23
Karrina - Good Luck to you, glad to hear some plans have been put in place. Hope that what evr happens, YOU are happy. Remember that you have a right to be Happy just as much as anyone. Big :hugs: for you and the kids.

Bossoflatch - Hope that things work out for you also. :hugs:

On a personal note - Can anyone give me some tips on sleeping for the little miss. The problem is she has a feed at 4pm then goes down at 5, she thinks this is her big sleep and goes for 6 hrs then. That means every three hours after that. I have tried stretching her out till after 6 but she just ends up beside ehrself. Any advice welcome. I could do with the sleep later obviously. :banghead:

Tabby
18-04-2007, 10:44
Victoria: Have you tried giving her a bath as soon as see shes getting sleepy ( obviously not too tired though ) ? It worked for us when daylight saving changed and K wanted sleep at 6 instead of 7/730.
I would bath her as soon as saw her rub eyes and It gives her a recharge of energy, she then goes on the play mat to let loose for about another 1/2 hr or more lol.

Karrina/bossoflatch :hugs: :hugs: for each of you.

Flicka
18-04-2007, 11:21
:hugs: Karrina - thinking of you and the kids at this difficult time.
Victoria - I agree with Tabby. Kelsey likes to power nap in the evenings at about 5.30pm and I have found a bath lengthens her awake time until about 6.30pm.

Going out - DH and I try and be flexible about going out at night with the kids. I mean, routines are great but kids also have to learn that sometimes they change. I also like the kids to learn that it is ok to fall asleep on someones couch at a BBQ. I like them to be able to adapt........in saying that though if we were to meet friends out for dinner or go out ourselves we would probably go quite early so we could get home and put the kids to bed at a reasonable hour.

Kelsey just had a bit of a screaming session and wouldn't feed. Sneaky mummy waited until she was nearly asleep and then gave her a sleepy feed and she has gone off to bed now. When she cries now she looks right into my eyes as if to say "do something mum - I'm sad".

I agree with Charis - that having a baby is a huge strain on even a fantastic relationship. I'm sure there are times everyone thinks about walking away from it all but I just try and imagine my life without DH and I can't see myself happy without him. there are just so many pressures with kids - emotional, financial etc and then i think we tend to allow our marriages/relationships go to the bottom of the pile in terms of priority. DH and I talked about this last week and we decided that for the kids to be happy we needed to put our relationship back up high on the list of priorities. Easy to say but hard to do......

Cat13
18-04-2007, 11:52
Karrina, lots of :hugs: your way. Some tough decisions you've been making at a very stressful time. Hope u get all the support u need.

Question - does leaving Cameron alone asleep in the car make me a bad mum? The car is in the locked garage, door from garage to house is open so I can listen for him and garage window is open for ventilation so I don't think it is really that bad. He fell asleep just as we arrived to mum & bub yoga (still haven't made it to a single class) and with all our daytime sleeping issues I couldn't bear the thought of waking him & getting through the class with a cranky bub. So turned back home & he is now snoring in his carseat, often wakes if I try & move him and really want him to have a good sleep. DH is going to say I should have gone to the class anyway and can't let C change my plans :ecomcity: :ecomcity: ........but he doesn't spend hours & hours everyday trying to get him to fall asleep.

Why is sleep SOOOO hard? Walk in the pram works for a morning sleep but takes at least 30mins of walking - is that what I have to do for every nap?? Will end up a very skinny mummy with that much exercise!

Flicka, you said 'when she cries now she looks right into my eyes as if to say "do something mum - I'm sad".' This is exactly what Cam seems to be saying to me when he is tired and wants to sleep only I can't seem to help him :( and it breaks my heart.

His nap in the car is over an hour now so at least that's something. Better go check on him!

Tabby
18-04-2007, 13:11
Cat I dont think that makes you a bad mum no way!
With ds2 he was the worst sleep ever!! and I used to grab whatever chances we could too. As long as they are safe and like you said hes in the locked garage etc and you can hear him.

:fingerscrossed: He settles into a better sleep routine for you soon.

SammyG
18-04-2007, 13:26
Karrina :hugs: more big hugs I am still reeling at your news as you always seem so together and this a major change you have obviously been seriously contemplating for a while. Remember we are all here and that your wellbeing with Imani & Billy are the most important things going on right now.

Cat13, a girlfriend of mine could only ever get DD1 to sleep after a quick walk in the pram and she routinely left her afterwards in the garage as she wouldn't transfer. Do whatever works for you!

Flicka
18-04-2007, 13:40
Karrina - i just re-read my post and now I feel awful. I don't want you to think I was being critical of you - I guess I was just saying how I feel about my relationship with my DH. I totally think you need to do what is right for you and your kids - sorry if it seemed otherwise.

Cat - don't worry I often leave my kids asleep in the car if I go to mum and dads (when they are home from Japan). In fact I have left them asleep at home too and I only have a carport but I sit outside with them. I say you just do what you have to do to get through each day with your sanity. And if that means not going somewhere (mum & bub yoga) then that is ok. Only you know what is best for Cam. Take heart - the sleeping thing will get easier. By the time he is 6 months you will be an old hand at this and have him totally worked out!!!

Anyway, just wanted to clarify......hope all is ok Karrina. Thinking of you today xxxooo.

jacstar31
18-04-2007, 13:54
Karrina & bossoflatch - my heart goes out to you :hugs:

tired*mummy
18-04-2007, 14:38
Hi everyone

Karrina - :hugs: I hope everything works out for you.
Bossoflatch - :hugs: too.
Victoria - Sierra does the same with her sleeping, she feeds at around 4-4.30pm and then falls asleep by 5-6.30 and then sleeps for 8hrs. Then has another 4 hrs sleep and then is up for a couple hours. I tried giving her a bath but she fell asleep as soon as i got her out and dressed lol. I've tried letting her sleep for a couple of hours and then waking her up but then she just wakes at the same time she normal would which is around 2-3am. So i thought i would just leave it for the moment... as her going to sleep around the time is good in a way cos i can get dinner ready and the DD1 & 2 fed, bathed and ready for bed and i dont have to worry about feeding Sierra or leaving her to play by herself while i do everything.I would prefer her to sleep all night and wake at 5-6 instead 2-3am but at the moment its working quite well and i'm getting some sleep so thats the main thing lol.

Karrina
18-04-2007, 14:52
Flicka -no offense taken what so ever! The difference between me and you is that you said you can't imagine being happy without DH - whereas all I can see is happiness without my DH and unhappiness if we stay together. That being said we do have a lot of good days but he is what I would call emotionally abusive and after all these years I am beginning to realise that all the things he 'blames' me for are not my fault but that he has a problem. We have had relationship counselling in the past and more recently he has been going to counselling on his own but there will always remain his underlying anger and resentment for which I seem to cop - even though it has nothing to do with me. Anyhow..I don't really want to go into it anymore than that but just to say there is no domestic violence (physical) but lots of elements of verbal/emotional abuse and that I don't want my children witnessing this and growing up to learn that it is 'fine' to treat women the way he does (when he gets nasty). I am not painting a great picture of him but he does have wonderful traits about him it's just that they don't count when he behaves badly. IYKWIM

Feeling ok at the moment it wil be when he steps through the door that the anxiety will rise - I am hoping that he has settled a bit and is willing to 'talk' about this seperation rather than threaten me or verbally abuse me...or the usual 'guilt trip' me for being in this predictament.

Want to use this one in context...and a bit of light humour

Would you consider yourself a computer :geek: (geek) ???

I wonder how often we will be able to use that one in context?

Tabby
18-04-2007, 15:06
LOL! ok DP is a computer :geek: , even works in the IT industry. My sons are also both computer :geek:'s
Oldest works in IT and youngest is well just a plain ole computer :geek:
Me? I consider myself just a computer junkie
LOL When I first saw it I thought it was a owl???

:laughing:

mim1
18-04-2007, 15:17
Yeah, I thought :geek: was an owl, til I clicked on it and it came up as ''geek" :)

sleeping in the car ... the issue is that cars heat up, but if your car is in a place that it doesn't get hot then it's ok. Personally my car gets really hot in the carport so I wouldn't do it, but it gets a fair bit of sun despite the carport roof. If you want to double check you can always put a thermometer in there and if the temperature goes above 25 degrees bubs is better off inside.

victoria ... josh starts his big sleeps whenever he wants and there's nothing I can do about it I'm afraid :(. Last week he started his big sleeps at midnight, 6pm, 4:15pm (what the??? - the next feed was at 12:45am), 7pm, 9pm, 10pm ... this week it's somewhere between 7 and 10. I think I just have to get used to it, doesn't mean I'm happy about it either, I just have to learn to go to bed early.

Nina79
18-04-2007, 15:52
Hi girls,

Some pics of our Brisbane picnic today.

http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=79909


Hope others can join us next time! :D

Cordelia
18-04-2007, 16:55
Oh my gosh! I'd never even considered leaving Caitlin in the car to sleep - but now that the idea is in my head.... :P How much easier would that be!! Except for the fact we odn't have a door on our carport so i'd probably risk a baby snatching incident.

About going out - we go out 2-3 nights a week and don't have an issue with it. So long as she gets her feeds when she needs them and we try and get her to sleep but if not - oh well... she has to get used to being flexible.

I'm really excited because I've enrolled Caitlin and DH to do gymbaroo this term! I'm so happy that he's doing something with her by himself - I just hope that there's other dad's there because otherwise he'll be really self conscious. I'm going to do a photography course at TAFE one night a week and start playing piano at church again so I'm starting to get back to things.

Call me stupid Nina but I can't view those photos for some reason.. I hope you had a good time! It must be due for another perth gathering soon shouldn't it??*hint hint*

Bye everyone :)

SammyG
18-04-2007, 17:00
Cordelia, I still do gymbaroo with DS1 and DH comes along whenever he can, am thinking of starting M soon! I too cannot view those images, different program to what I'm used to???

Charis
18-04-2007, 17:08
Just want to be further empowering to Karrina! Keep doing what you know is right (whatever that is, staying/going). I know that 'you're taking my world away' sentiment also. My ex-DP uses it as his reason not to check we're okay/help..with the 'it was your choice not to live with me'. Both statements are incorrect, as they are a big part of why 'their world is being taken away'! Yes by your description could almost be the same bloke! Thinking of you now!! The best for B and I is the best alternative, as you understand. It will be hard for yr DP to understand this may mean not living with him.Happy Mum=happy stable bubs too!!

H sleeps in the garage often. I do worry about latent carbon monoxide fumes..but being a Mummy its normal to worry.Have only done one successful sleeping transfer from the car seat in 3 months!

Cordelia!! Great about the gymbaroo and getting out, piano/tafe. V v good for us all, time out. :yelclap:

Feeling for you Cat13! Oh the turn-around from yoga, completely understand! Theres a time for fitting your routine and theres a time for sleep!! H and Cameron sound similar in personality in regard to sleep. Dummy has made all the difference, he no longer screams for 20mins each sleep, hardly grissly. It might save yr mind and soothe him! I know I sound like a dummy missiomary. Sorry! But I was dreading the end of playtimes and wouldn't want you going through the same!!

Pices 79, :wave: again!! Our bubs share the same b'day. And your daughter and I have the same name :smiliedance:

sugar n spice
18-04-2007, 17:12
i must have missed a page but dont have time to read back. I think someone has said they let their baby sleep in the car? May i ask why as sorry im not judging but there is no way i would do that. I would only let them sleep while travelling

Strawberry_Shortcake
18-04-2007, 19:33
Hi Ladies,

Firstly I must thank everyone that told me to get another pooh bear and start rotating them. I brought another one yesterday while kmart was having a sale.

Karrina – My thoughts are with you and your children in this difficult time. :hugs:

Bossoflatch – :hugs: to you.

Tabby – I call Talon. My little man, bubba or spunky monkey. he loves me saying spunky monkey to him as he giggles each time i say it lol.

Victoria – I usually let T have a nap around 4.30pm then wake him up about 7pm for some playtime. Dh or I have a bath with him around 7.30 and then he has his bottle around 8ish and in bed straight after that. T sleeps till 8am.

Us – Not much is happening here. We have finally got T into a routine at night, :smiliedance: which is fantastic. Sent Talon’s christening invitations out yesterday and also found the perfect cake topper for his cake. Went to pumpkin patch today to get him an outfit for my sister’s 21st on Saturday night and boy I could’ve spent up big in that shop lol. Better go and stack the dishwasher and do some little things around the house, got another busy day tomorrow.

Take care everyone
Kel

SammyG
18-04-2007, 19:51
Strawberry, that's great you got another Pooh on special! I bought the papers to make M's Christening invitations today (hoping to have them in the post by the end of the weekend) and have found a picture I like for the cake too! I have bought books and taught myself cake decorating since DS1 arrived and now I have to make sure M's cake is as good as B's was, as well as a bit different. Didn't know what I was getting myself into when I started this!!! Here's a pic of B's cake.
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/scrappysamg/Bub%20Hub/ChristeningCake.jpg

Tabby
18-04-2007, 20:03
Sammy: Thats a beautiful cake! Youve obviously found a talent there :thumbsup:

Sugar: Its page 37 and posted by cat13 and she explains why :)

Tabby
18-04-2007, 20:41
Cheeki: Meant to reply your post earlier but got distracted.
Thanks for the comments regarding Katie. :thumbsup:

I had to LOL at you cat dilemma though, has this hilarious visual in my head of your waking with the net over you lol sorry.

And Ide forgotten!! FLOSSY! thats what Dad used to call me as well, usually when I was sad or hurt.

So have to share this one here, it was in the bath tonight
http://picasaweb.google.com/Kaitlyn2006/KatieAndFamily/photo#5054733750230019986

LadyLou
18-04-2007, 21:14
Hi

With DS at preschool and DH at work and all my housework done - this is what I got up to today!

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t144/LiEmPiccies/Picture047.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t144/LiEmPiccies/Picture042.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t144/LiEmPiccies/Picture052.jpg

This is my christenning dress - its over 26years old and still in great condition. My kids aren't christened but I wanted to dress her up in the gown while she could still fit!

Karrina :hugs: sorry to hear things aren't going well at the moment, what ever decision you make will be the right one for you and your kids. Also I grew up with a father that fits your description of your DH, I always wished my mum would have left him sooner then she did so my brother and I didn't have to suffer so much.

Nicknames: DS I call "Liamey Lion / Lion / Lioney" (he has a short name and the only thing I could do was to lengthen it - ha ha!), I also call him "baby cakes" and "bubble butt" - all names that I will have to stoip using soon as it'll start to embarass him.... :shame:

DD gets "bubs" or "little lady" - haven't really found one that fits her yet..... I did want to call her "Millie" or "Emmy Lou" will wait and see. It's funny how we go to all the trouble of naming them then go and call them somethign different :confused:

Sleeping in the car: yep did it plenty of times with DS (I too would sit in the car with him and read etc) was so happy when we built a house with a connected garage - but now it's overflowing with DH's toys car won't fit........

Can't remember all the other posts - sorry!

Oh yeah - going out. We try to limit it, when we do go I take bub's basinette (she still fits into it and it's on the pram), I bath her before we go (or at their place if possible...) and put her into her basinette - she thinks she's in bed and sleeps. If she wakes on way home getting in/out of car I simply feed her again and put her in her bed when we get home, no problems! The reason for limiting it is that I'm too tired for the late late nights! lol!!

SammyG
18-04-2007, 21:41
2cute, that dress is gorgeous and your little one looks an absolute angel in it! M will be dressed in a satin jumpsuit and matching chef's hat that DS1 wore for his christening, not quite the same dressing up little boys!
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/scrappysamg/Bub%20Hub/BenChristening.jpg

LadyLou
18-04-2007, 22:00
SammyG - he looks so cute in that outfit - little boys can look so dashing all dressed up - i just love it!

*Sparkles*
19-04-2007, 08:39
I haven't posted for a couple of days (that's gotta be a first lol) and I was shocked and saddened to read Karrina's post. My heart really goes out to you. I have been through a divorce in the past so I know first hand what a stressful and upsetting time this is for you.
I really hope things work out for you one way or the other. Just follow your heart and do what you think is best for you and the kiddies. Big :hugs: to you darl.

Hi :wave: to Pices and welcome back.

Victoria - After the 4pm feed, don't put her to bed. Keep her out with you watching TV, in the rocker/playgym, and bathtime etc. Just let her catnap in between. Then feed again about 8pm and make it her bedtime after that. This is what we do with Reece, infact he stays up until 10pm and then sleeps from 11pm to 7am, same as us.

I have never left R asleep in the car. Usually if he's asleep when I get home, I transfer him to the pram and he keeps sleeping. But that's just me.

I started the Mother's Group yesterday and it went ok. It was at a different centre this time and there were more mums close to my age and all the babies are close in age too. Next one is in 2 weeks due to Anzac Day.
Funny thing was, at the last group I attended everyone was very casual, eg trackies and runners. I normally make an effort when I go out but yesterday I dressed really casually in trackies etc. I ended up feeling like a real dag as everyone else was wearing nice jeans, designer boots and fitted tops etc.
Their babies all had on nice little suits and I just put Reece in a boring plain romper :laughing:
I hate it when I get it wrong. I don't know what's worse, feeling like a dag or being somewhere and feeling too over dressed :confused:

Strawberry_Shortcake
19-04-2007, 08:47
2cutekidz – Emily looks so gorgeous in the dress.

SammyG – The cake is beautiful. You sure have a talent in that area also the pic of you ds is adorable in the christening gown.

For the people who are getting their bubbas christened, baptized or named what date have you picked? Talon’s naming ceremony is 12 May.

mim1
19-04-2007, 12:14
I was thinking about having Josh's dedication in June, but my niece is going to have hers then, so the next possible date for us is probably in August sometime. I have no idea what he is going to wear. I have a few really lovely Humprey's Corner outfits, but I'm not sure if/when he'll fit into them. I'm also worried that he'll vomit on it or something before he even goes out in public ... maybe I'll have to buy 2 of whatever I put him in ... is that silly?

mim1
19-04-2007, 12:15
hels ... don't worry about mother's group - they probably looked at you and thought "why didn't I wear my comfy clothes?" and you'll find that more of them are in comfy clothes next time.

Lochlansmummy
19-04-2007, 12:35
hi jan mums
thanks mim1 for directing me here as a jan mum i am just wanted to say hi and hope for more interactions with you all... Where are you girls from?? a bit all over i suppose

Flicka
19-04-2007, 12:56
Karrina - Hope you and the kids are coping ok and your DH was able to talk to you (and listen too I hope).
Sammy - You have such a talent with the cake making. My efforts so far have been a weird looking mud cake for DS's christening, a lady bird and a dogs face. They certainly didn't work out as nicely as yours and to be honest I was a bit embarassed by how they turned out!!! BUT I am determined to keep trying and I figure I will get better at it. Were you also the one that made the fantastic Noah's ark cake? I remember a pic of one from when I was lurking around here when preg...
Lochlansmummy - Welcome and glad Mim told you where to find us. I live in Townsville in Nth Qld.

Woke up with a very stiff neck this morning - ow. DS started swimming lessons in the big kids group today so I don't have to swim with him anymore like in the baby classes. I am totally biased but he was a real star - swimming across the pool and duck diving for rings. I was so proud of him. I will have to sign Kelsey up for lessons now but I think I will start when she is about 6 months as that is what we did with DS. Is anyone else planning to do swimming classes? Cat - if you are keen there are some good places around here. I go to the pool on The Strand and have been very happy with them.

As for Christening dates - we have our tentatively planned for the end of June (23rd I think). My folks will be here for a visit so it should be nice. I would love to be able to make a great cake like Sammy. Any tips Sammy? Should I do a practice one soon or just wing it for the big day?

Love the pics of the kids in the christening outfits. I have just chosen a pink dress and tights for kelsey and mum is knitting her a cardigan. Is anyone else here into crafts? I love knitting and crochet. Have just got a sewing machine and am going to get some lessons.

Take care
Flicka xx

ps sorry for llllooooonnnggg post!

SammyG
19-04-2007, 14:13
Thankyou all for the lovely compliments regarding the cakes.
Strawberry, M's Baptism is booked for June 24th. DS1 was 7months at his, M will be 6months and able to fit into the same outfit!
Flicka, yes Noah's Ark was B's 2nd Birthday cake with 2 of every animal. The trick I have found is making or finding the decorative bits in advance, that's the most time consuming part and as it is all sugar it keeps easily in an air tight container for weeks. A bit of ribbon around a cake works wonders and the stars are only rolled out packaged Orchard Fondant (Woolies, Coles have it) cut out with a cookie cutter and stuck on with a bit of sugar water. I made the centre piece from scratch with diff coloured royal icing layered and then painted details in, that bit can be as simple or as complicated as you want or not even there. A girlfriend of mine had a pink cake with white flowers dotted all over and just her name in the middle.

Welcome Lochlansmummy, hope you have fun here with us all!

Hels, glad you found a nice MG, the clothing thing will sort itself out.

Karrina
19-04-2007, 14:16
Thanks everyone...

DH and I had a good talk last night and he appears to be understanding (although he is also holding his feelings back). He knows that I am serious about the separation and we started to have some conversations about the house, property and time with the kids.

I really hope we can have an amicable relationship but things can turn pear shaped with him pretty quickly.

Went into Centrelink today and will be entitled to the Parenting Payment (Single) JUST as I am on a salary from work 1/2 pay maternity leave. I will get $20 per fortnight!!! but I will get a pension card :p which will help me to get reduced power and rates bills. Completed all the paperwork and even though DH (x DH) are under the same roof I am still entitled to it (he will move out soon enough)

The family tax benefit thing is another issue....and I have to pursue him for child maintenance through the 'Child Support Agency' which he won't be happy about as he wanted to do a private arrangement.

It was really weird saying goodnight to him as his x...'well then goodnight' and we didn't kiss or hug. Oh well I guess things are always going to be different from now on in.

I am really questioning returning to fulltime work in Dec now especially that I will be a single mum:confused: I will also have to pay for childcare ft for Billy alone and I don't think it will be worth it as I will loose the parenting payment pension, most of the FTB and more importantly time with my kids. (I earn over $70 000 per year when I am working fulltime), so when I go back in June part time I might see if it works and maybe that is the way to go especially now that I am single and won't be able to rely on a DH anymore so I think I will be stressed out:eek: . But then again if I take on his side of the mortage I may have to! I really don't know how it is going to pan out and finances are so messy with debts up to our ears.

I have told Imani that we might go on a 'holiday' to SA in a few days and then when we get back x DH and I will talk to her about 'daddy' living elsewhere :crying:

Cat13
19-04-2007, 14:43
Thanks to those who let me know I'm not the only one who's let bub sleep in the car. Like I said, it is a closed, ventilated garage attached to the house (and I left the car doors open) so no safety issue but I still felt slack! Not planning on it being a daily event but will use for sleep emergencies!

Karrina, glad that DH seems to be being reasonable and really hope it can all be worked out amicably. I say see how PT work goes first and leave the FT decision until later on. If the finances can manage it, PT might help you not to feel toooooo stretched. I know not everyone has the choice but I can't imagine havng enough leftover after putting in a full working week. I've got a friend with 13 month old who works a full day Mon/Wed/Fri and has done since 6months and seems to work for her.

Charis, have been paying attention to your dummy advise but C is not a fan. Just spits it straight back out. But on a good note he is having (touch wood) an excellent sleeping day. Decided that tired signs immediately after waking and feed meant more sleep needed so no playtime and straight back to bed - and what do you know, first time took 45mins, second time 30mins and his current sleep (coming up on 1hr15mins!!) only took 15. Didn't even put on hysterics, just some grizzling and a few shouts before dropping off. I felt bad taking playtime away but obviously we've been overstimulting. Naughty mummy & daddy. :shame:

Flicka, thanks for tip about swimming spots. I'd like to start swimming lessons around the 6month mark. Should get some lessons for myself too, can swim to save myself (ie doggy paddle LOL) but it's not pretty!

Tabby
19-04-2007, 15:32
Big Welcome Lochlansmummy, look forward to chatting..which I personally do a lot of here :laughing:

Karrina: Im led to believe that if you go part time you may also get some benefits at least to help.
pension card/child care rebate?/maybe a small parenting payment :fingerscrossed: It works for you
When you go to cl next ask for ANYTHING that can help you out, there is a lot you can be entitled to but dont get told..unless you ask
Also re: maintinence, you can have a private agreement as long as both parties agree its just that it must be recorded there as usual incase he fails to follow through then they can jump in quicker to make sure he does...Yes maintinence has been a part of my life for a bit lol. Ex wanted private but he failed a LOT so last 3 yrs hes been "forced" to pay...rather sad..

Glad ex-dp is so far amicable and hope it stays that way xxxx

gotta run Katies wanting company xx

aries_moon
19-04-2007, 16:08
Karrina, glad you were able to have a civilized talk with your ex. Will be thinking of you for when you have to tell dd about daddy living elsewhere, must be so tough :hugs:

Cat13- we're in the same boat re: dummy issue, X flat out refuses, have even tried various brands same goes for bottle......it's my nipple or nothing unfortunately!! A dummy would work wonders for us at certain times, but I guess on the upside to that it's one less thing to wean from.

Well we've been having a good day so far. My bday today, the big 22 lol :rolleyes: Also last day of mothers group so we had a little party, how fitting! Bit sad, but think we will carry it on ourselves. Hopefully X is a good boy and goes to sleep no fuss tonite so mummy and daddy get quality time, and enjoy some red vino :fingerscrossed:

Also yes I think it is time for another Perth meet up. I'm game to have it at mine, so we should discuss a day that can suit everyone. Anyhoo, i'm off to do some birthday shopping!:smiliedance:

take care all

Strawberry_Shortcake
19-04-2007, 16:57
happybirthday Aries_moon.Have a great nite.

:wave: Lochlansmummy and welcome, looking forward to chatting to you.

Karrina - Sweetie so glad you and ex could have a civilized talk.

Tabby
19-04-2007, 18:10
happybirthday Aries_Moon
Hope you have a lovely night.

Strawberry_Shortcake
19-04-2007, 20:09
I let Talon put himself to sleep tonight in his cot. He was talking to pooh for abit, i checked on him 5 mins after and he's sound asleep. I thought i would show you this pic. Do you honestly think he loves his pooh bear??? I thought it was adorable. I love my little man sooo much.

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s305/kelleigh75/talonsleeping16wks.jpg

Sorry girls i had to show you this pic

mim1
19-04-2007, 20:32
strawberry ... whats to apologise for? that's an adorable photo and a very cute little boy you have there!

2s'nuff
19-04-2007, 21:06
Hi-ya girlies,

Just a quick post as the past couple of days have gone by in a blur.

:hugs: Karrina for all that you are going through. As for returning to work, the past couple of days have been extreemly busy for me. Working with two kids is totally different than only having one. I'd start part time and see if you can manage financially on that.

Welcome LochlansMum
happybirthday Aries. Hope you had a great day!

The past couple of days has been a bit of a blur. Starting to get into a bit of a routine in the morning and in the afternoon it just seems to be tears and crying. One cries while I deal with the others needs, then we swap. TJ has been going down for her big sleep between 6-7pm. Have been trying to keep her awake until at least 7, some night it works, some it doesn't. Last night she slept for 9 hours:smiliedance: , going down at 7 and sleeping until 4am.

Info needed: TJ still having runny poo's (since Sunday, now down to every 15 hours or more). Will this sort itself out and return to normal soon or should I take her to the docs? If I do, what will the doc do about it? Anyone have any advice? Don't want to bother with the docs if they can't/won't do anything about it.

Had better go, things to get ready for work/daycare tomorrow.

2s'nuff
19-04-2007, 21:09
Forgot to add: I'm up for another Perth meet. Only Mondays and Tuesdays suit me now, but if they are not good for anyone else, I'll have to pass:thumbsdown: .

Karrina
19-04-2007, 21:10
Talon is sooooooooooooooo cute! :thumbsup: Billy has started talking to toys and holding them too!

happybirthday Aries Moon, another Arien like me! Hope your birthday is much better than mine was (day of separation)

:yes: All is good here at the moment, I think me and the kids will be off to SA on Sunday (as long as my FTB forms arrive in the post tomorrow) and we will stay there for a few weeks maybe? Not really sure...

Anyhow thanks again for all your support, it is nice to be able to vent things - even if it is into 'cyber space' for all of us BubHub :geek: 's

Forgot to mention...before I feed Billy I ask him 'do you want boobies' he gets so excited, laughs with glee and kicks his legs around as well as snuffs. It is sooooo funny! Does anyone else get this, aren't they very clever

Karrina
19-04-2007, 21:14
Oh I wanted to ask....

I have heard that people go through major life changes every 7 years...

Well in 2000 I made a major lifestyle change and moved out of the city life to remote living and have been since.

Now it is 2007 and it seems I am having another major lifestyle change - separation

Has anyone else followed this pattern of 7 year cycles? I can't remember if it has to do with starsigns or what?

sugar n spice
19-04-2007, 21:24
sammyg - that cake is gorgeous and your little man looks gorgeous in his outfit. We chirsten our boys on there first birthdays as then its one party for two events. we did that with our first and well just continued it so i suppose its a bit of a tradition now.

lachlansmum - welcome to the hub and to the janurary mums.

karrina - glad everything seems to be going civilasied but still its sad your seperating so lots of :hugs: coming your way.

ashton has been so grumpy the last few afternoons maybe its still from the needles or maybe he is teething as he is dribbling heaps.

*Sparkles*
19-04-2007, 21:34
Karrina - I got married 1st time in 1993 and divorced in 2000 (7 years later). Now I have had a baby in 2007. You do the maths lol, quite freaky hey?

Just a quick post from me as I am so tired that I feel dizzy. I hosted a BH meet today at my house with the February ladies. We all had a good time, it's a pity there aren't any Melb ladies in this group that want to join in. Almost everyone in here is from WA lol.

R was good all day but then he screamed for about an hour this evening. We couldn't do anything to settle him. In the end he got himself so hot and worked up that I had to put a cold face washer on his forehead and face. This seemed to calm him down and before long he was back to his old self again. Seems like we haven't totally outgrown arsenic hour yet.

Well I'm off to bed. Have a good sleep everyone.

mim1
19-04-2007, 22:04
hels ... i'm in melbourne, so i'm happy to meet up sometime. didn't realise it was today ... couldn't have come anyway though had stuff on today :(.

I've got blocked milk ducts :(. Not mastitis yet, just pain when I have a let down ... it's been happening for 24 hours so far. Have expressed a couple of times extra to try and help it, but I suppose I'll find out tomorrow if I've fixed the problem. The doctor said to make sure Josh starts on that side each time til it has resolved, especially when he is really hungry. One way or another tomorrow will reveal what the outcome will be.

Tabby
19-04-2007, 22:33
awww Strawberry thats ever so cute!
You inspired me to give Katie a cuddly toy after your showing me Talon with his last week. She now does the same, talks and cuddles him to sleep. thanks!

Mouse: Has anything changed feed wise since the start of it? Other than that no idea..sorry. Probably worth a trip if your worried dehydrating ?


Karrina: How cute with the boobie excitement hahhaha

Hels: hope you get a good sleep xxx

Mim: Hope you improve by morning..ouchies

Us: Late night shopping and now I remember why I avoided it all these yrs lol.
Katie was wonderful as allways but all the ppl rush rush rush...ended up with a trolley up my butt in the checkout queue :( Wasnt impressed

good sleeps to all
xxxx

Oh Perth meet, any day is good for me.

Charis
20-04-2007, 00:20
Hi Tabby, just PMed you too, I was just then butchering the latest Huggies packet and they are in an envelope to you +Katie tomorrow. Sorry for the naughty time lag. :wave:

Karrina, glad things are getting more sorted, hope your forms come in the mail. I know what you mean about the 'snuffs'. Hunter is called snuffy wuffy sometimes, which is a terrible name for such a strong male baby :laughing:

Hels, it is sometimes linked to the Saturn Return, which I've never really looked into, but indicates some change of life every 7 years with pivotal ages being 28 and 35.. I guess you're a bit ahead of time! I also was with my previous partner for 7yrs. Sorry to hear about the screaming hour again. Yes, I did a little entertaining, well cooked a roast (how easy are they!) for my preg friend and although we were both quiet and calm his normal 8pm sleep got to 10.30..hmm.

Mim1 hope the ducts are going okay as it gets further into the day. Are you also the one who wrote you wake feeling hot? For a while I was waking feeling like I had a cold every morning..but think it was just hours of not 'nursing'. S'ok now, H wakes at 6..and the other morning 4.30!!

Cheeki28 hope the pain lessens for you. It is so overcoming, back pain!!

MouseBrown great to hear work is happening, bet you;re looking forward to tomorrow being Friday. Next week will be easier I guess + hope. H always has runny poos, they do, don't they? The explosive v v runny ones, happen with food difference, usually extreme vegetable juices from Mum or her prune cake. Does TJ have any other symptoms?

Oh a final car sleeping note.. I also only do it now in the garage that opens onto house, car doors open, checking the temp of car and garage. He tends to wake up a little while after the car stops anyhow. For the first few weeks he slept in the car all over the place: building sites, hardware shops, grocery shops.. too many to count. Too hard to work and not do that. Actually he slept in the shade outside a job this morning. Always in earshot and usually visual. Each to her own.:wave: says naughty mummy!

Talon and the sleeping pooh are so so gorgeous!!!

H has started reaching out to touch things, like tree bark, flowers, leaves..+of course rattles etc. Not his Mummy yet (eyes/ears/nose etc)nor his feet.

Night all!!!:wave: And to your sleeping little ones.

mim1
20-04-2007, 04:14
thanks everyone ... I'm feeling better this morning (Josh just had a big feed).

For those of you giving a cuddle toy to your babies I heard a great suggestion - get 2 of them, so that you can have one in the wash and one with your baby (oh yeah and make sure they are washable). Josh got given a pooh with a little blankie attached I think I'll give it to him now that I know your babies like them already. I just have to find a 2nd backup version.

Really should try and get back to sleep.

Strawberry_Shortcake
20-04-2007, 05:19
Min1 – Glad to hear your feeling good this morning

I was suggested from the lovely ladies here to get an identical pooh and start rotating them:thumbsup:





Josh got given a pooh with a little blankie attached I think I'll give it to him now that I know your babies like them already. I just have to find a 2nd backup version.

Really should try and get back to sleep.

Thats what Talon carries around. You can get them from kmart.

Tabby
20-04-2007, 08:25
Morning all!

uhoh Not sure if can find a identical teddy. Was a gift and I havnt seen the one who gave it since so no idea where she got it..Actually shes not the only one who I havnt seen since a one off visit early days..hmm
Might have to trade it for something else before she gets too attatched. Pooh sounds lovely, her room and clothes are after all pooh orientated.

Mim: Glad your feeling better!

Charis: No probs, Have pmed you xx
Ahh the joys of bf bubbas, runny poos. I have the opposite with Katie eating, have to make sure she has water regularly or gets constipated.
Yep Katie really is noticable on reaching out now, trys to touch my face , not long and I think she will, Already making sure my hairs tied back lol

Cheeki: Feel for you with the back pain hun.
I have a cage and plate in mine ( fusion ) but still suffer lower back pain. Have panadiene forte? and heat pack maybe?. Hope its easing for you.

Kaite loves watching morning tv...mickey mouse club lol and this morning she was on my knee facing forward and she tilted her head back looked up and smiled ..so cute

be back later. play time :smiliedance:

*Sparkles*
20-04-2007, 09:02
Sorry no personals today, I am feeling too lazy lol.

Re cuddly toys, I am quite wary of letting R sleep with one as I thought we weren't supposed to have things like that close to them incase they suffocated?

We ended up with a good night, 10.30pm to 7.30am :yelclap: Although he woke at 6am and I got up to put his dummy in. But I couldn't get back to sleep after. I am hanging for the day that I actually get 8+ hours sleep in one hit :rolleyes:

Going out to the shops this arvo, I have to go to medicare again. Then shopping again tomorrow with DH as we want to get R a bookcase for his room. The one's in the baby shops are so expensive so will try normal furniture shops.

Have a good weekend everyone, what are we all going to be doing?

victoria75
20-04-2007, 09:04
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, To those fabulous people who gave me ideas to help the little miss sleep at night longer. I have had 2 nights from 7 -3.30. I feel sane again. :smiliedance: :smiliedance: Ended up still having her feed at 4.30pm then stretched her out. Gave a bath etc. I really cant thank you enough. I dont know what I did b4 bubhub.

Hope everyone has a great day. Its DH birthday so I am off to bake a cake.

Happy Birthday for yesterday Aries Moon. Hope you enjoyed the shopping spree.

Tabby
20-04-2007, 09:11
ah Victoria, wonderful news! :smiliedance: Yep that bath usually gives Katie another hr of energy, spends it kicking on the play mat.
Speaking of which, she doesn't like staying in the rocker very long the last 3-4 days, starts getting cranky and trying to kick, so onto the play mat and shes happy as!
Anyone else got that? Oh and getting very attention seeking, If I leave the room she whinges till I return then shes all happy again lol

Hels: Yes your correct they do say you shouldnt, Me personally I remove teddy once shes asleep though.
Have fun shopping, hope you find the perfect book case.

Mouse: Hope your evening routine gets better for you real soon. xx

When I was shopping last night I used one of those baby trolleys...the bloomn straps were so tangled so couldnt use them. Had to have a hand on her at all times..Think ill stick to the pram.

Tabby
20-04-2007, 09:22
Have posted here and need advice. :thumbsup:
http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=85289

dragonflyblu
20-04-2007, 09:30
mmy browser keeps quiting so I am just going to do a quick post and then go back and read the thread.

We are well, clea is having a grumpy day, wanting to sleep and being grizzly in between sleeps. No real crying just some grizzles. But my MIL is here so she is rocking her.

My AF returned yesterday. I was amazed since we exclusively BF about every 3-4 hours all day and all night. a few days ago i thought, oh no i am putting on weight again! A year without AF and its like i have forgotten the signs... Has anyone else who exclusively BF had AF's return so early? Have posted in the BF section as well as I cant seem to find any info on it.

Now to read the thread.:wave:

tired*mummy
20-04-2007, 09:40
Morning everyone,

Well we had a good night... Sierra slept from 7pm til 6:35am :smiliedance: Was very happy with that. I still didnt get to bed until 11.30pm but at least i didnt have to get up a few hours later.

Victoria - Glad the sleep is working for you too.
Hels - I'm in Melbourne too... and would have loved to come to the meet up but most days DH has the car for work, our other car is completely stuffed and its gonna cost around $4000 to fix (may as well buy a new one lol). So hopefully when thats fixed i can come to one.
Tabby - Sierra has started to get cranky in her rocker too. Just noticed it the last few days. she will stay in there for a little while but then cracks it. She loves her playmat though and i have another in her room waiting to be opened. So when she gets bored with one she has a new one :laughing:

DH has his first consult tomorrow morning for the snip lol.. dont think he's looking forawrd to it. We have organised MIL to have the girls so i can go with him... only so he doesnt chicken out. Then we might do a bit of shopping while we have no kids.
Hope everyone has a great weekend.
Take care :wave:

Acacia
20-04-2007, 09:46
Min1 – Glad to hear your feeling good this morning

I was suggested from the lovely ladies here to get an identical pooh and start rotating them:thumbsup:

I Wonder what it is about pooh bear. Tom has a pooh bear and he likes it the most. it was the only teddy he would smile at.

Karrina, i hope things work out for the best. It takes a lot of strength to walk away from a bad relationship but you will be glad you did and so will your kids. :hugs:. If you ever want to talk feel free to pm me. Toms dad and i decided to definately call it quits after trying to work things out but the fighting was too much to handle and no good for tom.

I considered the maternity payment to be Toms money so it is just in an account for him. I get the single parent pension and it is plenty for us to live off, but we dont have a lot of expenditure because i breast feed and use cloth nappies so i havent felt like i needed to use the money, although when Tom starts school i will lose the pension so i will probably need the money for school things then. I think that the mnoey is there for the benefit of the baby and i think that paying off bills benefits bubs by making sure he has everything he needs and not going without because there are bills that need paying.

My friend went into labor this morning. Im so excited for her. She is going to be the best mum. I cant wait till her little one arrives....im itching to know if its a boy or a girl!

Tom is still having poo problems. i got him to go after a week by giving him water and extra milk. Im trying that again. It seems so cruel that his digestive system isnt working terribly well. It seems such a fundamental thing!

Cordelia
20-04-2007, 10:34
So many messages again!!

AF - I'm exlusively breastfeeding (every 3 hours except at night) and I got my AF after 4.5 weeks!! Crazy.. mind you it's quite light and has been quite irregular....

Maternity Payment - we would have liked to haev put it in an account for Caitlin but figured that it was better off in our mortgage because once we get that paid off we can give her oh, so much more!

I jsut got my last paycheck!! Devastating!! That is a LOT of money lost. But I thought about it and really I've been getting paid since the 8th december with 8 weeks holiday and 10 weeks school time so you hvae to be happy about that! Never mind how we'll survive without it...

Perth meet - I'm not free Tuesdays but Mondays are cool with me! Otherwise Fridays... ps. happy birthday aries :) :)

I was trying to think of what I was doing 7 years ago and I remembered that it was the first time I moved out of home which was quite huge for me but then that's what a lot of 19 year olds are doing so it probably isn't that special!! There is of course the 7 year itch for marriages right?

I saw some friends pre-mum days this week being the school holidays and most of my friends being teachers. I just dont feel like I have much in common with them anymore. AND! They mentioned several times they've been out and I wasn't even asked!! I mean, I know they were probably being thoughtful but I'm feeling a bit hurt - I would at least like the opportunity of saying NO! But now, I'm feeling like I can leave Caitlin with DH a little more maybe I might say YES! grrrr

Well, Caitlin should be waking up in approximately 16 minutes (yes, she does it to the dot!) so I'd better go grab some breakfast.

Tabby
20-04-2007, 12:03
When does baby brain go!!???
First I put the bib in the bin and then went to add the sposie to the wash...And just now I though hmm wheres the pram its not in usual place..ohhhh Katie is in it alseep and wheeled into my room so can clean without disturbance lol
The bin incidence is not a first too, While bathing a few weeks back DP says "Did you just throw a bib in bin??" ( again instead of nappy ) I didnt even realise that till he said it lol, makes me wonder now how many have gone in and out to big bin :laughing:

Cordelia: Yep same here, had only mentioned a bit back how no-one asks us out anymore! Like you say we might say yes how do they know? and yes it does hurt here too. Maybe next time they mention outings let them know you might be up for the next one as like you say its probably just them being thoughtful but once they realize your up for it...xxx

Am feeling rather pfft about mil at the mo. When Katie was due for arrival she continually rang me to ask how I was and have a chat, since her arrival and the novelty has worn off she never rings to talk to me, yet she rings here and dp answers and I dont even get a "tell Vicki I said hi" ... Promises of baby shopping outings have never eventuated. When DP was off work she called here every friday, now hes back she doesnt! BLAH pffft again another with their loss, missing out on Katies daily learning and excitement!!!

Cordelia
20-04-2007, 12:07
oh tabby i nearly feel off my chair when i read that as "i threw the bub un the bin" :laughing:

Tabby
20-04-2007, 12:20
:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing: lol Thanks for the huge laugh Im having reading that!

sugar n spice
20-04-2007, 12:26
yeah there is the 7yr itch for marriages isnt there.

today i was in the bathroom took my glasses off and my lense fell out the frame came apart. they were able to screw them back together but made me realise i need another pair as if this pair did break id need a back up pair as it can take a week to get glasses and i cant even take half a day without them. im virtually blind in one eye:banghead:

ashton is still irritable a little but also a bundle of laughs. i thought he was going to roll yesterday he was so close. well i better go i have a friend coming over with fish n chips soon. nice having adult company

SammyG
20-04-2007, 12:29
Ben got my MIL a beauty the other day. We left him with her for an hour to shop just with Michael, when we got back she raved how B had told her she was 'beautiful'. When she repeatedly tried to get him to say it again in front of us he kept replying 'NO! Mama is beautiful' So not only was the phrase itself a winner, the timing was a bonus!

Tabby, Baby Brain in full swing over here and I just spent a couple of hours with a MG friend 37wks PG. I don't think a single part of our conversations ever got finished as our crazy thoughts drifted all over the place. Then I sorted myself to put the boys in the car and tried putting them in each others car seats! Not an easy task slinging a 2 & 1/2yr old into a baby capsule!

Tabby
20-04-2007, 12:39
LOL at the capsule, that reminded me of last night! When ds1 and I went to go shopping I walked out the door and right to the drivers side..yes Katie was going to drive! She was in my arms still..

SammyG
20-04-2007, 12:53
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: At least of all of us that still have Baby Brain seem to understand each other!

I know a few of you are TTC or thinking about it, gosh I am clucky, still waiting till M is 1yr old though, will take DH that long to get used to the idea! It's just that M is such a good bub & B such a good little boy I will just have to have another!

*Sparkles*
20-04-2007, 13:00
Tabby - I just gave R some of the AR formula as I have run out of thickener. It seems about the same and he is fine, no spews yet either :fingerscrossed: Seeing as he slept for 9 hours last night I have cut back his feeds to 150ml every 3.5 hours. Otherwise he won't fit them all in lol.

That's a shame about your MIL :thumbsdown: I never go anywhere with mine, these days she only sees R when we take him over. I hardly hear from anyone anymore (eg friends or DH's family). So I have started making new friends. It's like a whole new life for me now, but for the better I think.

Babies are so funny aren't they? I have Reece beside me in his pram. He is now awake and somehow pulled his cover up to his head and in his mouth. I just looked at him and he gave me a huge grin as if to say "look at me mum, I am so clever!"

*Sparkles*
20-04-2007, 13:04
Reece is now on my lap and he decided to add something;

ghujlkjc cjhi8.juhtjul;po765rree,l; ,m

:laughing:

Tabby
20-04-2007, 13:14
Sammy: Yep same reason here for ttc, Katie is just so easy! DP is even now really looking forward to another, he was ok before but now quite excited..hmm OR is that the prospect of regular sex again :laughing:

Hels: Tell Reece I said hhjkgi gune jwjhr mjk xxxx
:laughing:

Katie now has about 180mls, was 150 but wanted more so now I make up 200's and she sometimes has the lot. Every 3 hrs daytime! Shes quite the little piggy now, even after her farex or custard dinner she knocks off at least 150+

SammyG
20-04-2007, 13:15
:laughing: I'm sure Michael would know exactly what he means, Hels how did you do your avatar like that?

*Sparkles*
20-04-2007, 13:31
SammyG - Reece did it, he is such a computer geek, check it out;
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Reece/ComputerGeek.jpg

Just kidding, there are some instructions on how to do it if you do search under avatars. You have to d/load a microsoft gif program. If you can't find the thread let me know and I'll have a look.

SammyG
20-04-2007, 13:49
Thanks Hels, Reece is one cute geek!!!

sugar n spice
20-04-2007, 15:05
hels thats a cute computer geek you have there :p

Karrina
20-04-2007, 15:10
Hels - that is one of the funniest things i have seen in a while! :yes: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

aries_moon
20-04-2007, 17:59
just a quicky here.........

since mondays are so far looking like best day for a meet, how does next monday, the 30th (i think) work for everyone?? PM me if ok, and we'll take it from there!!

happy friday everyone!!

oh and yes my bday evening was great, thanks everyone for the well wishes!! xavier went to bed like a good boy and mummy and daddy got some thai takeaway and red wine! yum!

Flicka
20-04-2007, 18:59
Not sure about talking but Kelsey is def being more vocal. She is making sounds like yayayaya. She is also chuckling alot - more of a chuckle that a real laugh at the moment but she's working on it. I'm sure alot of you are the same but my DH and I spend so much time saying "Honey come and look at this it made kelsey laugh". And then we proceed to do some ridiculous and embarassing stunt to make her laugh. Most of the time kelsey just looks at us both as if to say "I'm sorry, I don't perform on cue..."

Kelsey only had a really short sleep this arvo and then wanted to be held until bedtime. Poor DS had to have scrambled eggs for dinner as I didn't have the time or the free hands to cook. I think she had a bit of a tummy ache as I went thru 3 disp and 2 cloth nappies in about an hour (the cloth nappies caught the spillage). She had such terrible gas....poor girl. She isn't sick or anything - just had really explosive poo's without much substance. (sorry TMI).

Question - Those of you b/feeding - Kelsey is going thru a really fussy time at the moment regarding feeding. I feel like I am offering her the breast too often as she seems to be turning it away some of the time when she would have a feed before. I think she is stretching her feeds out a bit now and that is the reason - are any of yours doing this?

Thanks

Flicka xx

SammyG
20-04-2007, 19:18
Flicka, I have just been throwing my arms up in the air most days as at the moment BF is different every feed. Yesterday he fed well at 5am, fussed at 8am, screamed at 10am (pity we were in the car 20mins from destination) fed well at 10:30am & 1pm, fussed at 4pm till we had an exploding poo (made it thru to my jeans) fed ok at 7:30pm Off to bed till 5am to start whole process again. I am learning not to doubt myself and just let him dictate, nappies are mostly full, it's just annoying not having him predictable. But Hey, he is otherwise a happy little tike so really can't complain!

LadyLou
20-04-2007, 19:22
Dragonflyblue - I noticed you asked the question about AF returning and only got one response....... I also noticed you placed the question to the BF online expert but it looks like they don't have one atm :thumbsdown:

I too have got AF back, just had it at 12wks and seems as though I got it as early as 8wks!!:eek:

I am exclusively BF and we feed through the night and don't have a dummy etc - I didn't get AF with DS until he was 7/8 months (he was on solids and comp bottles at daycare by that time) so it was a real shock for me! The even scarier thought is that I am now fertile again.....:shame:

Anyway with regards to milk supply so far it's not made any difference, I still seem to become engorged if she hasn't feed at her usual times, and she's still having full wet nappies and sleeping well. The only difference that I noticed was that she had been sleeping through the night up until two/three days before AF arrived, then woke for a 2am feed everynight until 2 days after AF stopped. I initially put it down to either growth spurt or being cold at night but am starting to think it may have had something to do with my milk/hormones..... :confused: Now that AF has gone she's back to normal with sleeping through to 6am.

I don't have any expert advice to back it all up but I don't think our milk will dry up due to AF's arrival, we just may notice some disturbances with bubs sleep/mood when our hormones peak???

Sorry I can't be any help! I'll be watching the online expert thread keenly to see if you get a response. May be an idea to post it in the general BF thread too - someone there maybe more helpful then here??

LadyLou
20-04-2007, 19:45
Flicka/SammyG - E is now feeding a lot faster - doesn't spend as long at the breast feeding (but sometimes just hangs on for the suck - "mmmm...boobbyy...mmmm"). I have no idea what times she feeds through the day, I only know what time we sleep through till - the later the better :laughing: . Mostly though I don't care about the time (I'm on mat leave - I'm in no rush :yelclap: ), if she wakes 1 hour after being put to bed then we just go with the flow and refeed and settle when she's tired, mostly she sleeps, wakes for around 1 to 2 hours then heads back to bed. I can tell if she's due to wake but the pain in my (.)(.)'s. The best advice I ever read in here was to "don't watch the clock watch your baby" - it's made for a much calmer life here.

Hmmm - just re-reading your question - not sure if I even came close to an answer....:confused: oh well :D

Shazza
20-04-2007, 20:09
Hi everyone

Well I haven't been on in a while - DH has been away all week with work so I've had Coops all to myself! I can honestly say now that I am in absolute awe of single mums - 1 week was long enough for me!

Hels - woohoo for being all better down there! And lol at your computer geek boy - I had a good chuckle! I've notice Coops is grabbing at stuff too - mostly his clothes at the moment but trying for other stuff too.

dragonflyblu - so how's the crawling coming along? You realise you will be constantly on the move once she is!

sugar - I've noticed coops is exactly the same with the fist in mouth straight after a feed. Thats how I know hes finished finished!

karrina - :hugs: for your separation dramas. Good on you for doing what is best for you and the kids!

pisces_79 - welcome back!

bossoflatch - :hugs: for you too about your relationship dramas. Hope everything sorts itself out.

lochlansmummy - hi and welcome to you and L

Aries - happybirthday for yesterday

Tabby - I'm going to use baby brain for as long as possible, then toddler brain and so on!

Sammy - what M is doing with the feeding sounds very familiar. I just thought Coops was being fussy!

Well I"ve got another big weekend coming up - a Hens Night. Which means this will be the longest I've been away from Coops :crying: Don't know how I will go and I hope he will be ok with taking a bottle otherwise the poor little bugger will be starving by the time I get back.

Not much else has been happening in our world. Been trying to organise Coops baptism but no one seems to want us when we want to get him done. Which is in a week while my bro is over from Perth. Bugger.

Anyways must try and get some sleep - big day tomorrow! Hope everyone has a good weekend!

Cheer, Shaz:-)

Cordelia
20-04-2007, 20:19
Re BF: Caitlin is sometimes so fussy lately.. And also she'll take a few sucks and then pull off and look around. I think she's starting to think she can boss me round and do things at her own leisure... I've found standing and swaying a little helps her feed better - but man, my arms kill after about 10 minutes!! And also around AF time she gets very fussy - apparently the milk tastes different (btw dragonfly AF didn't affect my supply either - just seemed to make her more fussy for a few feeds)

cheeki thats cool about the talking! Ive found Caitlin echoing some humming that I've been doing - and no I'm not imagining it (altho DH thinks I've gone mad) and I swear that I've said hello to her twice and she's repeated it. But apart from that ... no talking ;P

Karrina
20-04-2007, 20:40
Acacia - how are you finding things since separating from DP, was he living with you? Do you find it hard to manage?

Cheeki28 - I think the 'dada' is a developmental stage and that babies can say dada much easier than mama when they are so young, remember hearing that somewhere :confused:

AriesMoon - mmmm Thai and wine sound great, sounds like you had a good time

Flicka - hope your little bub is on the mend, Billy has days like that sometimes. I think the digestive system is still learning. Regarding feeding Billy seems to have dropped the wake up feed - around 8am, has a little drink but isn't interested. I think that they also become really good 'drainers' at this age and manage to get alot of milk in a shorter time hence the feeds start stretching out

DragonFlyBlu - I have had spotting twice now while on the mini pill, and exclusively BF. Not sure if it is AF or what but have stopped taking the mini pill now, after all I won't be BD anymore...:laughing:

No plans for this weekend, was going to SA but surprise surprise :party: Centrelink has held me up due to a 'systems error' and I don't want to go anywhere until my parenting payment and FTB is sorted. X DH is being really good and it is so strange being in the same house and acting like 'friends', the strangest was saying 'well goodnight then' and no bedtime kiss after doing this for the last 6 years. I don't feel sad just relieved at the moment and happy that I have set myself free from this situation. I can actually stay in SA right up until June if I need (that's when I am due to start work) but really not sure I can handle being away from my home for that long. I hope that x DH manages to find something really quickly. He is a Park Ranger and is going to ask them if he can be stationed on a park with housing.

After sorting through the Centrelink dramas the next is child support OMG, and then the finances and property and parenting plans. There is so much to organise:thumbsdown:

Karrina
20-04-2007, 20:44
DragonFlyBlu - forgot to mention that Billy's gooey eyes have cleared up. I took him to the doctors last week and they gave him clorsig drops, even though they thought it was a blocked tear duct (no pink eye) but it mustn't of been as they are finally lovely and clear.:yes:

Jenko
20-04-2007, 20:45
Koby is also fussing at the breast. It just started yesterday. It's like he has a little drink then just wants to look up at me smiling with milk dribbling down his cheeks. I can't help but just give him big goofy grins back. I think he may be stretching his feeds out a little more too.

Dribbling! I can't believe how much he dribbles, much more than DD ever did. He ends up saturated and because he is chubby all the saliva ends up in his neck rolls, poor bubba. I'm constantly changing clothes, bibs and wiping his soggy neck.

He has the deepest creases in his hands that get filled with cotton fluff from the muslins and then he sticks his hands in his mouth all the time so it ends up all soggy and gross.

Koby slept through till 5am again (second time) last night. Then went back downt till 7am. That's his biggest sleep in yet. My poor boobs were killing me, I couldn't even sleep on one side.

Koby has had a few 'gunky' eyes. I was trying to squirt breast milk into his eye, but it was going all over his face...and me...and the lounge LOL. I read a tip on here, squirt some onto a teaspoon and drop it in. Worked a treat. Karrina, glad to hear Billy's eye is all cleared up.

Sorry no other personals, by the time I read everything, my mind is blank again. Did someone say something about 'baby brain'. :o

sugar n spice
20-04-2007, 20:51
ashton man does he dribble. he is always dribbling. my shirt was satcherated the other day from where he was dribbling on my shoulder when i was holding him. he like tugging at his blankets aswell now and pulls at his toys on his play gym:)

SammyG
20-04-2007, 20:57
Jenko, I give M a bottle of EBM when he wants his last feed at around 7pm but don't express for another couple of hours. This way I have expressed more after I am completely drained and can stay comfortable even though M has been sleeping through till around 5am. If by some chance he does want a feed just after I have expressed I give him the EBM (I have extra frozen)

I know Michael is getting enough during his fussy periods but does he have to do it just as I let-down? The other day he looked like someone had sprayed his whole face with milk droplets!!!:laughing: He was still busy chatting away, not bothered by it at all!

BTW I exclusively BF (M is 11wks now) and no sign of AF yet.

Karrina, glad X DH is behaving himself.

freddie
20-04-2007, 21:00
hey all,
ditto about baby brain - big time here. We've had a few nights now of being up twice in a night and seem to have lost the 6 - 8 hour sleeps :no:. where are you??? come back we miss you!!!
Its taken me all day to catch up on posts after a few days not getting to the computer so apologies for no personals. I had every intention but it got a bit overwhelming. I will say a big :hugs:to Karrina and blossoflatch though for your relationship issues. Karrina you sound so strong, I really admire you and hope it all works out ok.
happybirthday aries moon and yes I'd be up for Monday 30th. Mondays are good for me.
Found out today we missed out on getting into the swim classes I put our name down for but can do another one which starts soon so will give that a go. I can't wait.
I was thinking about the 7 year thing. I met my DH 7 years ago and now have Hamish. I guess they are two fairly momentous things! 1993...I was finishing my degree I think.
Well we're doing well. Hamish usually power feeds for 5 - 10 mins per side but has been a bit sleepy and dragging them out the last few days. Then he doesn't sleep as the nap/feed revives him. Even when I feed him straight after a sleep! Oh well, we're going with the flow and I try to get in two good morning sleeps (1 hour each) then nap wherever we are in the arvo and bed by 7.30. He hasn't slept past 7.30am (usually before 7am) since I can remember. oh, a sleep in would be blissful!
well I've really got to go and cook tea and settle down for Friday crime night on telly! have a great weekend everyone.
kx

2s'nuff
20-04-2007, 21:45
Yah its Friday night:smiliedance: . I've survived my first week back at work, and what a week it was. Initially I was thinking I'd been thrown in the deep end, have since decided I was thrown overboard while in the middle of the Indian Ocean.

TJ's poo's: aside from attending daycare, nothing had changed lately, same formula etc. She's drinking enough so I'm not worried about dehydration. Will monitor her nappies over the weekend and see how she goes. Think I might try her on some yogurt to see if that helps.

Aries...Monday the 30th is good for me. When you've heard from the rest of the Perthies, PM me the details. It's my turn to bring something to eat.

Sorry no personals, my brain is fried. Typed this sentence twice, started as "brian fired" :laughing:

Enjoy your friday night, I'm off to enjoy a bath. Both kids are in bed and there's not much happening on tele.

Charis
20-04-2007, 23:46
hey MousebrownJust the mental adjustment of work in itself is taxing! Next week will be easier for all. A truly restful weekend I hope for you.

Were we all being euphemistic in talking about 'fussing' when feeding? Or is Hunter the only one who pulls off, arches and then screams!? Yes he's got much much more efficient and fussy for the last 2 weeks or so too. He does sometimes look at the flying washingmachines on here when he's pulling off..not there now, but were. (really! I'm not completely mad!) I 've started blocking his view of the computer :laughing:In case of nerd-dom. But gorgeous shot of your little boy Reece Hels! So beautiful.

Great Cheeki28 about the talking!!!

Not really seeing it all through rose colored glasses, but there is SO much more time when ex-DP isn't here. When we were getting on he'd come over and bath H and sometimes have dinner here. Well no-one but me to feed and heaps of time to read/bh/work/shop! Its not all bad.

I didn't mean to start any sadness about invites out. The other two were from H's Aunties (so don't count, as family!) Well I did go to dinner with my dear friends tonight. Yes I took all the advice of all,THANKYOU ALL! So went out, but prepared for any eventuality. Helped chop veges with H in baby bjorn, then a nice sunset walk..then fed in a quiet dark bedroom (am tired of multitasking feeds) bathed him, which he thought was a bit weird..big bath! And put him to sleep all through main course being served and eaten in the distance. He was almost asleep so many times..so then we got up and sat at the big peoples table while I ate..and he was admired again! Then off to sleep again. About three times during dessert. MMm warm pumkin pie, cloves/cinnamon..icecream..but I digress. Great to be with my friends all together and get some adult conversation in and some yummy food. But I said, just after dessert, the next time he wakes we're gone. Sure enough, awake and with a MUMMY DO SOMETHING FACE and screams to match, poor bub, so when we got home fell instantly asleep. Oh well worth the try and might be easier next time.

Sorry blah blah!! No DP to talk to!

-Oh and B-feeding here too, no AF. Gosh what a surprise it will be!
Freddie, oh :confused: about the added feed. The cold temperature? This H was in hat and mittens + wooly jumper last night. But this place is COLD. Buying more heaters tomorrow. If your classes take ages to start we could meet up at Mercy hospital for a bub swim. $18 a session, HBF refunded, 15mins bubs 'swim' and then 45 mins of aqua aerobics.I'll be back one day soon.
-Jenko your description of the wet hands was a vivid one :D Love yr colorful avatar!!
-BenGs/Sammy yup getting the jeans too, that is surely a 4 1/2 on the explosive 5 star scale. Am leaving a 1/2 just in case!
-Aries!! Great you had a lovely night, just you two!! HAPPY DAY AFTER YR BIRTHDAY today..and Mothers Day coming up soon too :) Oh and Monday is good for me too, well playgroup day, but will work around it!

happy long sleeps to all.

bossoflatch
21-04-2007, 03:31
i was off line for a couple of days and boys did i miss you guys... just got home from work so taking the time to catch up while everyone is sleeping ....

karrina - i hope things are okay for you at the moment, :hugs: to you though.... you sound much stronger than me...

i think you mentioned about bubs and the ' do you want boobie?" lol - i ask bubs the same - ' do you want some boobies and she just smiles at me and starts eyeing of mine ...lol....

i had so many replies but can't remember what i wanted to write - so much happens in here now....

with the breastfeeding thing... she has been getting a cold so she is miserable and is hardly feeding - she is getting frustrated with the slow letdown (not really slow -i mean about 30 secs till letdown how fast does she want it :confused: ) but i think she is getting over it - she is feeding longer now...

well i have had a few issues with dh at the moment as i said earlier - and ex of his has come back on the scene - i won't go into too much detail but - i started doubting dh and his honesty - so i have made him work for my trust again - and a big issues with him - the lack of respect he shows the kids .... we have been so stressed over the last 2 years ... over simple things mind you .... and then i see his ex is in town... and has been here for some time .. WTF??? any ways other things came out, which i didn't like, and now i realised that even though i love him to death - i really don't trust him and i don't think of him as my best friend anymore - i feel as though when you are married your partner is your best friend - someone you tell everything and anything to - but he just doesn't have the time - so i was questioning his loyalty ... and then the ex girlfriend issue came up....

i asked him to move out last week - he was going to go to his brothers but when the time came to tell the older kids - ( i told him that i wouldn't tell them and that it has to come from both of us.... but we were fighting in front of them ... :eek: i know bad bad!! and then ds2 starting getting really upset and then dh just changed almost instantaneously (sp) - it was like a lightbulb had gone off and he realised that he has no respect for any of us anymore... so we have had huge chats since then - with out the kids of course ... and no sleep .... but i think we might get thru it --- - i am not strong enough to find out the truth and i think i am almost prepared to get on with my life with him for the sake of the kids... they idolise him and he does love them and the other night he realised what i have been saying about positive parenting... and not always treating them like an inconvenience...

it is almost five in the morning so - i guess this may not even make sense and in the morning i will edit it all.. :banghead:

tired*mummy
21-04-2007, 06:32
Morning everyone

Bossoflatch - I really hope things work out for you. DH and i have gone thru very similar problems when DD1 was born and then when DD2 was born. It took us quite a while to work things out and even still some days we argue about the past. Its hard too cos i dont trust DH very much either and i dont know if its jsut because i'm insecure about us because we have had probs in the past or if its because i shouldnt trust him (if that makes sense lol.... its too early). But we seem to work thru things and i know that he loves the girls heaps and the thought of loosing them is heart breaking to him. I just hope he always remembers what he's got and what he could loose. Anyway... we arent having many prob at the moment so thats good.

I was also thinking about the 7year thing too. In 2000, DH and i got married and in 1993 it was when i was 11(lol) almost 12 and my mum and dad broke up and my dad moved out. So they were very big life changes for me. So wonder what will happen this year....:confused: Maybe i dont want to know lol. I've had a life change of having 3 kids instead of 2 but dont think thats as big as marriage or parents separating. Got me scared now lol.
Hope everyone has a great day, DH has his vasectomy consult appointment in a couple of hours :laughing: :laughing:

:wave:

mim1
21-04-2007, 07:07
Georgia ... reading that you were 11 years old in 93 makes me feel old ... I was in Year 11. :(

bossoflatch ... dh and I went through a rough patch at the 2 year mark and we got some really good counselling. It made a huge difference and I highly recommend it. We weren't ever close to separating or anything, just not best friends anymore and always arguing and frustrated with each other. The improvements didn't happen instantly but within a few weeks things started getting better, months later they were heaps better and now 3 years later (wow, it seems like it's been longer than that) things are really great cause of the changes we implemented.

We go out quite a bit cause we have a dinner with my family once a week (Monday night) at my parents house. Does that count? I don't find it disrupts Josh at all and as everyone is happy to entertain him I get a bit of a rest. We've also gone out to dinner at a restaurant with Josh when he was about 7 weeks old. He slept the whole time, but woke up as we left and then screamed for hours at home :(. When Josh was about 5 - 6 weeks old we went out to an engagement party for a friend who had been our best man at our wedding. It was a 30 minute+ drive to get there and the timing of his feeds was really hard cause he fed so frequently. So, of course, as we arrived Josh wanted a feed ... but our friends mum (who I don't know very well at all) let me feed him in her bedroom and then we went and joined the party ... but we only stayed for an hour or so, we were both too tired to stay longer.

feeds ... in a book I read (can't remember which one) it said that babies typically have a period of about 2 weeks at 4 months of age when they are not so interested in breast milk. It's got something to do with development and apparently they can get quite fussy and feed poorly for a while, but then they return to normal with a venegence and all is well again. I've noticed with Josh that he is a lot more distractable - yesterday I had to put my hand up to cover his face so he'd concentrate on drinking cause everytime I took it away he'd pull off and look into the distance (at what I have no idea!).

jenko ... josh's finger creases are always filled with fluff too! Then he puts them in his mouth and wow at some times his hands reek! About a month ago I couldn't work out why he smelt so bad til I got a whiff of his hands! Sometimes it's so bad that within 2 hours of a bath they smell again! Oi! Mind you, it's actually a lot better recently.

:hugs: to karrina ... I hope your housing and finances can be sorted out really quickly.

happybirthday to ariesmoon!

*Sparkles*
21-04-2007, 08:07
FLASHING AVATARS

Here is the "how to" thread for anyone that wants one;
http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=36617

No time to post today as we have a busy day ahead. Feeling quite refreshed as R went from 10.30pm - 8am :smiliedance:

Have a great weekend everyone

Jenko
21-04-2007, 08:16
Mim - I notice Koby's hands smell when I'm feeding him, it's awful isn't it. I wipe them with a wet cloth and dry them at nappy change but it doesn't take long for them to fill with fluff again. Koby's is still bad, I find myself picking fluff out of his fingers at every feed, much to his annoyance....he squrims and makes fists as if to say can you just let me eat!

7 year itch...hmm 1993 I did my HSC. 2000 DH and I moved in together. Now, well we're going pretty good. We seem to mostly argue on how to disipline DD, she is playing up a lot atm. Doing our heads in!

Big hugs to Karrina and Bossoflatch :hugs: I hope everything works out for the best.

*Sparkles*
21-04-2007, 08:18
I just skimmed through the posts and saw that some of you are talking about the return of AF. I got mine again today, it is the 21/4/07. Last year (when I fell PG) the date of my LMP was 21/4/06. So if I fell PG again this month the gestation dates and due dates would be identical, exactly 1 year apart.
However, seeing as we have a 1 in 40 million chance of getting PG naturally (due to DH's infertility) and the fact that I am back on the pill as of today for my hormones. I'd say that it's not going to happen. But I thought I'd mention it as it's pretty coincidental that the dates are the same.

aries_moon
21-04-2007, 08:38
happy sat. morning ladies!!

PERTHIES- looks like mon. 30th works with everyone, so we'll leave it at that, expect a PM from me with details soon.
no time for real post at the moment, enjoy the weekend all! take care :)

Tabby
21-04-2007, 08:40
Morning all!

lol Hels, cute pic! YAY for that awesome sleep

Jenko: katie is only a littly but we still get the yuck in the neck rolls because she still occasionally sicks a lot reflux and lots of dribble here too and the hand crease ewww lol Forgot about that a few times when hands were still clenched all time. I make a conscious effort now to wipe her palms over more often.
lol @ your situation re: milk in the eyes. Glad you found a easier way :laughing:

Freddie: Hopefully hes just having a growth spurt and sleeping less wont last long. I do notice Katie goes about 3-4 nights like that and then back to normal again for few more weeks.
For us it usually coincides with crappy day naps and feeds more often daytime. Thankfully doesnt last long.

aww Mouse: Hope you enjoyed that hot bath and got a nice long uninterrupted sleep!

Cheeki: thats wonderful with the dada ! Cant wait to hear it here too
I agree why dada first! But truth is its easier to get round the tounge "apparently" and is why first.

Charis! What are you doing to me * squints to read *, morning forum trolling and I need glasses as is..sooooo tiny lol
Yes was worth the try dinner, sorry didnt go as good as hoped but yep next time!!

:hugs: Bossoflatch, been a hard few days for you! Hope things keep improving xxx

Talking about picking at things, Katies getting quite gruff with me now when I try lol
Its like " Will you QUIT that and just leave me alone mum! " but but theres something in your ear just let me get that one more thing! she actually growls at me lol

7 years?? Mine is all over the place...pretty much sums up my life though heh

aries_moon
21-04-2007, 08:42
CHARIS-empty your pm's so i can sent you our address!! thanx

sugar n spice
21-04-2007, 08:46
bossoflatch - i hope things get better for you:hugs:

i have only had one AF but thats because im on depo so dont get it when on depo and in three months time im getting the iud so hopefully no AF for 5 yrs.

im feeling so tired lately, strange as ash is perfect im just so exhausted though

bossoflatch
21-04-2007, 10:41
thanks everyone - and i know what you are all saying about the 7 year itch... we have been married 7 years last month - so i guess i should work thru it until the itch stops itching... :laughing:

funny how things work like that though... i better go and try to get some more sleep ...
leisa

SammyG
21-04-2007, 12:07
Hi all, just another thought on these fussy BF bubs. Noticed he feeds well when I am quiet (TV on doesn't bother him) but if I am talking the fussiness gets worse. Today when I stopped participating in the conversation at the outlaws he went back to a better sucking motion.

Flicka
21-04-2007, 12:40
That is a good point Sammy about being quiet when feeding. I am usually grumbling at DS or talking to DH or thinking about other things. Today I have just tried to SIT and take a deep breath and RELAX and concentrate on Kelsey and actually look at her instead of TV or DH or DS. Seems to have worked a treat so far......I guess it is just her way of telling me to slow down and pay attention to her when she needs me.

But also good point Cordelia about developmental stages. I think breast milk also becomes fully mature (whatever that means) around 4 months so maybe there is a bit of a change in taste etc....

Thanks everyone - I feel so much better that a few of us are going thru the 'fussy feeds'. I was actually starting to feel a bit stressed by it all. Should take my own advice Sammy - and trust myself and my milk!!!

jacstar31
21-04-2007, 13:43
i know what you mean about b/f. Geoffrey has been awfully fussy lately and had a bad night last night. he woke at 12.15am, 4.00am and 6.15am...doesn't help that I am getting a cold myself and feeling grumbly!!
i was really hoping he would sleep thru the night after massive cluster feeding in aft/evening y'day. oh well - the joys of children hey!

kylie - I know what you mean about bringing up things a week later....I too have done that, w/out realising that I have obviously been harboring in my mind!

Flicka
21-04-2007, 18:56
Yes, can relate sometimes Cheeki. I often find myself saying things to DH just to pick a fight with him - very naughty of me but I can't seem to stop myself once I start.

About the fussy feeders - Took Sammy's great advice and kelsey has been alot better. Tonight she had a bath and even drank from both sides before heading off to bed. She NEVER has both sides so it is a big improvement.

Off to do some reading and knitting. Lots of housework to do but I think it can wait until tomorrow.

SammyG
21-04-2007, 19:07
Flicka, I can't take all the credit, a friend mentioned the other day how she had to keep up her side of a conversation with nods only while BF DS1, I'm just glad I remembered the tip with my horrid baby brain!

I too am guilty of picking fights with DH, admittedly usually at end of day to either get out of cooking or BD, very naughty of me I know :shame: Why is it that men want to BD even when they are dog tired?

Cat13
21-04-2007, 20:13
One day of not turning on the computer and so many posts to catch up on!

Feeding - well, C has always had his fussy moments. Some feeds are great, some are screaming matches! He's okay with me talking but I have to make sure he cannot see TV as that distracts him. He's obsessed with TV but is now banned - apparently not recommended until they are two unless it's interactive. His latest thing is to stop about half way through a feed for a chat and a giggle. So cute but how to explain to him that he can't smile at mum and eat at the same time!? Sammy, I have a strong letdown several times a feed and C comes off nearly everytime so we both get sprayed with milk if I'm too slow with the cloth. Sometimes he'll laugh it off, sometimes scream depending on his mood. Theoretically I have no issue BF in public but the strong letdown and C coming off the nipple so frequently (as well as me being totally unco at it) I avoid it if at all possible.

AF - BF exclusively and no sign of AF yet. Hope it stays that way a little while. For the next 6 months anyway. After that will be thinking about TTC #2.

Talking/Touching - C is also starting to reach out for things, he gets so excited if I lean close enough for him to touch my face. He puts a little hand softly on my cheek or grabs my nose and giggles. He found my mouth too and found it very amusing when I nibbled his little fingers. Very vocal as well, loves chatting to the toys on his play gym while trying to pull them into his mouth. Doesn't sleep with any toys but I've started giving him a flannel nappy (our feeding cloth) as his blankie.

Can't remember if there was anything else I was going to respond to but post is already long enough so best I finish it up and join DH on the couch. I am very very lucky and my wonderful DH is my best friend so better give him some attention and keep it that way! :hugs: to those not feeling the same way about their DH's aat the moment and I hope things improve.

Karrina
21-04-2007, 20:52
Must be something in the stars with problems and DH. Hope things work out better for you all than it has with mine!:hugs:

I am going to focus on being the best mummy I can be! And I will not be looking at another man for a few years me thinks:no:

Billy is the only man for me - I love him to bits. He went down again at 7pm tonight and that's it until 8am tomorrow (apart from feeds). Billy loves our dog, he thinks she is so funny and can't stop laughing at her especially when she is barking :laughing:

Well good night ladies

dragonflyblu
21-04-2007, 21:26
karrina glad to hear things are starting to work out for you, but this is such a hard time my heart goes out to you. I am pretty sure you dont have to go through the child support agency, you can do a private arrangement but if he doesnt pay then you dont have any support to help you get payments. So centrelink will advise you to go through child support agency as a failsafe.

and on the other topic, thanks for the advice about the eye. Clea's hasnt cleared up. I am going to ask about clorsig.

Sleeping in car - I dont have a car anymore, but maybe if bubs is falling asleep in car and you dont want to move him you could hire a capsule. Then he could fall asleep anywhere and you can take him with you. Some mums at mothers group have these and their babies seem to do most day sleeps in them.

flicka Clea doesnt take the breast every time I offer it, even if I know she is hungry. I just wait awhile and offer again.

2cutekidz thanks for the response, I really felt a bit abnormal as all the expert advice said AF returns after 6 months. I posted it in the bf as well to ask for more experiences.

crawling, clea wriggles everywhere on her belly if we let her. She still puts her bum up but hasnt worked out the front of her body yet. Lots of face first into the mat!


Bossoflatch:hugs:

Lukeandmattsmum
21-04-2007, 21:27
I have found Matthew has been funny feeding lately. Unless he is absolutely starving he is pulling on and off. Sometimes it is for a chat other times he is screaming. Thank god the feed in the middle of the night is preatty calm.
After SammyG mentioned giving bubs all the attention i remembered DS1 was exactly the same around this time. I used to try and read with him and he would pinch me and muck up to much and i would end up reading the same line twice over:banghead:

Matthew is really getting interested in his toys of late. He reaches out and grabs at them and wacks them. He doesn't sleep with a toy as he is all around his cot but he does like grabbing at his wrap that i usually have in his capsule and pram. He pulls them up and sucks on them.

I am exclusively BF and have been on the minipill for almost a month and have had my AF :thumbsdown: . I used to be regular but now it is all over the place.

Karrina and Bossoflatch:hugs: to you guys. I too have had some issues with DF lately. It is probably just as much my fault being so tired and stuff but he doesn't seem to get it.

Anyway enough yabbering from me. I have a date with the expressing machine.LOL

Cordelia
21-04-2007, 22:02
The FUNNIEST thing!

I was searching thru my wardrobe loking for some black pants that I havent worn since befroe I was pregnant. (I've been searching for them for weeks but really want to wear them tomorrow). Anyway, found them and I came bouncing out of the walk in robe and said YAY! with a huge smiel on my face and Caitlin who was laying in the bed copied me with this massive smile and went "YAY!" with her fist in the air!!

she's soooo clever :)

Flicka
22-04-2007, 08:27
Karrina - funny you mentioned Billy laughing at your dog barking - Kelsey is the same - it has her in absolute fits.
sammy - yeah, what is it about men and wanting sex even when tired......most of the time it is the last thing on my mind. And to be honest, by the time I hop into bed I am exhausted and couldn't be bothered. Can't even put a DVD on for DS and sneak off with DH during the day - he follows us everywhere!! Saw a thing on Tv that if you are finding it hard to find time for sex because of the kids, you and DH should make an agreement to do it and stick to it. Not terribly romantic but I do find even if I don't feel like it originally, it was worth the effort in the end IYKWIM (sorry TMI).

Thanks again everyone for sharing your fussy b/f stories. It is funny how sometimes you can get bogged down concentrating on one tiny thing (the fussy feeding) and then you find out it is totally normal. You'd think i would have remembered from DS as it was only 2 years ago.......I have forgotten so much about babies since then.

Tabby
22-04-2007, 09:52
Men can be so :banghead: at times!
DP isnt getting any lately and am going to have to spell it out for him as to how to get more!
For starters he needs to remember am also still his gf and not just K's mum so he needs to put a effort in there. ( why do we have to keep reminding them is beyond me! )Also to come to bed early with me instead of trying to wake me when he does!

LOL Cordelia , how cute !

nothing really exciting happening here. Both DP and DS2 are sleeping in.. Wish I could get a sleep in, havnt had one since about 6 week before K arrived.:( and they wonder why im so tired???

oh that was rather rantish sorry lol

Acacia
22-04-2007, 10:30
Hi Karrina. If you want to apply for single parent payments and ftb then you have to get into contact with child support and register. You can tell them that you plan to arrange your own payment plan so they will record that and just send you and your ex partner an estimate of what he should be paying you and a reminder every year. Its basically just a way to safe guard you both. It only takes a phone call.

Im so glad to hear that your going well with the seperation. Its very hard sometimes on your own but i have just noticed a plus to co parenting....i can have a break and leave tom with his dad! I got to have my first afternoon nap the other day! I havent ventures out yet but im thinking maybe i will go out next weekend!

My friend had her baby 2 days ago and he is georgous. I was shocked by how much tom has grown. Her son was born bigger than tom, and to look at him he seems so tiny. I forgot that tom was ever that small! I felt like tom was this giant next to her bub! My friend did so well. a totally natural labour.

Well Tom is having trouble pooing again. Its a constant battle. He hates water so its a real struggle to get him to take any, but it helps him so much. I hoping we get a poo today!

Tom doesnt do a laugh yet. He has a very cute gurgle. He isnt holding himself up on his chest yet and he isnt rolling all the way over yet either, but i think his big cloth nappies have something to do with that! He is grabbing things and shoving everything in sight into his mouth!

*Sparkles*
22-04-2007, 10:43
**MELBOURNE CITY MEET**

The next Melb meet is on THURSDAY 3rd MAY at 12.30pm, it is a lunch meet near the city.

The meet is open to the January and February 2007 mums and I have PM'd the details to as many people as I could think of. If I have missed anyone it was not intentional :(.
If anyone else from this thread would like to join us, please PM me for the details :D

*Sparkles*
22-04-2007, 18:40
It's pretty quiet in here today, I expect everyone is having a good Sunday then?

We went shopping yesty and bought a few clothes for R. It's such a shame that they grow out of things so fast. Also got a 3-in-1 bouncer that I had seen on TV. It can be a carrier, bouncer and feeding chair.
I gave R a bottle at 8.30pm last night and then the 3 of us went to bed early. He woke at 6.30am for another feed. Then we put him in between us in our bed in his new bouncer and he slept until 9.30am, so we all got a good nights sleep and a sleep-in :smiliedance:

DH looked after R so I could do some bookwork today. I've also bought some softwear for designing your own greeting cards. I'm going to have a go at doing one for Mother's day and MIL's birthday, should be fun.

It's good for those who are BF'ing that things are working out now. It really does seem to take a while to get established.
I am very happy with R's feeding as he is now on the Karicare AR. Very few sicks and feeding without any fussing :thumbsup:

Reece likes watching TV. He will lay on his playmat for ages if the TV is on. He particualrly likes the bright colours eg cartoons. Is it ok for him to watch it? I'm not going to let him turn into a child who watches TV all day. But if it keeps him settled and entertained at this age, is that ok?

Charis
22-04-2007, 18:47
10hrs between feeds for little H last night!! Woohoo. Rock hard boobs of course. Not sure if it'll be a repeat tonight. oops he's gettng v fussy on feeding at the mo. It might be a v short post. He's making up for the 10hr - 3hr - 3hr - 4hr (but he fed for anhour) to now go inside two hours.. oh well, good he's just lovely.

Hope all weekends for all bubs and their yummy Mummys went well.

Hunter did his first real roll, after some yesterday and the day before. This one was all by himself, on his playmat and he looked v surprised. Wasn't sure if to laugh or cry..I was so happy delighted and smiley he responded with happiness, phew! Love the YAH! Cordelia! He didn't do that, though.

He just had first sleep in his cot! :eek: Oh stay stay stay a little bubby..I still have to buy a heater or three before I move him..so still some time.. I did the 'pat pat' rather than rocking, all good.

Bossoflatch, great great about the lightbulb going off. I also wonder about the future with H idolising his Dad, but don't want him to know or pick up his ways of treating people. :( I guess thats what Mummies are for.

Tired Mummy, was it, who was11 in 1993..??I was at uni!! OLd!!! :D

Oops thunder..washing on line, bub on boob..

Mim1 + Jenko, arh yes the toe cheese..H had ithat smell in his hip flexor folds, not hands or neck (yet). Its gone away. I read somewhere it can be thrush..but chose not to belief it!! Hope it clears up, bubs smell so lovely cuddly mostly!!

xx off to collect just damp washing.

Karrina
22-04-2007, 19:09
Acacia - thanks for the tips, I have to go into Centrelink again tomorrow. How long have you been separated from DP?

Hels - yes the TV thing is a bit of a guilt trip, but Billy loves it in front of the TV too. Imani watches Nickolodeon Jnr (all kids shows on Foxtel) and Billy often lies with her on his playmat. It's probably not advisable! but in reality we (parents) can't be entertaining them the whole time they are awake so thats what we do

Mim1 & Jenko - yes Billy was 'smelly' and I thought he had an ear infection. So I took him to the doctors who said there were no signs of infection. I continued to smell this vial smell and finally realised it was coming from the fold in his neck, it was really red too! So I got over it by making sure that I wash with water and soap in the crease (it is often gunky) when he has his bath, I then make sure that I get the towel in there and get it really dry and then the magic cure....:wizard: CURASH powder. Every morning after his bath I put the curash powder in the neck fold (get my hand in there and make sure it is spread around) and wow...no more smells. If/when I forget it comes back by the end of the day. So that's my tip of the week! :p

X DH is trying to 'suck up' I think, being really nice and telling me how much he is going to miss me I replied with 'All over red rover' and he said I was being 'silly' WTF? I am very serious so I hope he doesn't think this is going to blow over because it isn't. I asked him if he told his sister (who he has been visiting) that we have separated? He said NO. I also worked out some financial stuff today and what maintenance I want him to pay, I told him 'its on the table' and wanted to have a discussion about it, but he ignored it. I think he is in denial:( maybe he thinks with me and the kids going to SA that I will change my mind when we come back but I really don't want him to hold his breath because it isn't going to happen

Tabby
22-04-2007, 21:15
Hels: Katies always liked the telly but lately she hasn't as much interest except the morning cartoons lol. I don't know if its bad or not but it gives me time to do things that have to be done in the morning...then so be it. As long as there is some control later on am sure its ok. I feel that as long as Im not parking her in front of it all day long then thats ok.

Charis: Wonderful on the 10 hrs! woohoo H and awesome news the first sleep cot.
LOL yes katie's expression was the same when rolling, she wasnt sure what happened so looked like a cry coming. So did the same as you and got all excited and it turned to smiles from her too.
Had to do same the bath 2 nights ago when water splashed on her face, she started crying so changed the subject to laughter and all was ok!

Karrina: Yep curash to the rescue! when Katie's reflux was at its worst before AR formula she had that red there as always spewy and dribble. No matter how much dried bib it still got red by end day, and same as you, bath and curash fixed it.
Now little reflux I have no problems whew.
Still get muck in some strange places though :laughing:
Constantly picking at her to get fluff and whatever out of crevasses so she has resorted to growling at me to get off ! lol

Nothing much new here, rather quiet w.end

great sleeps to all
xxx

3Divas&me
23-04-2007, 10:46
Oh how slack am I!! It has been a while, time just gets away from you when you are busy. I didn't realise how busy I was but I have not had a chance to get on here for ages!:banghead:
I have been preparing to go back to school, yes spending my maternity leave writing programs and stuff. i go back next week. I am excited and some what scared. It is only 3 days a week so it will be ok.

Bridget is going great guns. I am still BF and loving it. she is still sleeping through the night- and i am loving that too. Her gums have been playing up a bit recently, making her a little grumpy at times, but a bit of that Bonjela and all calms down quite quickly.

I must say I am definately enjoying my mothering second time around, thats not to say I didn't enjoy it first time, but it all seems so much easier- it is fantastic.

Babies grow so quickly though. I went through Bridget's wardrobe yesterday- we said good bye to the 000 and welcomed in the 00. It is so sad looking at all the tiny outfits she once fit into or that once swum on her. She is 14 weeks tomorrow:eek: - where does the time go? I wish 14 weeks of pregnacy flew that fast!!

No personals today- still trying to catch up- but I must say the curash under the neck is something i do and it works a treat!:thumbsup:

sugar n spice
23-04-2007, 10:54
i think i might give the curash a go under the neck as it can smell abit there.

Ash is next to me on his play mat tugging at his toys and laughing. aww so cute. He loves sticking his tounge out atm, its like he has just discovered that he has something in his mouth, a tounge lol.

well i better go give the little man a feed, and yay he is drinking a full bottle now. Im off to go get my depo injection done in an hr so better get ready.

cate
23-04-2007, 12:20
Such a long time since I've been on and read through our massive thread!!!!!

Things with us are going well; Audrey is rolling from belly to back....her way of getting out of tummy time i think! She's a lot more interested in toys and her hands in general. Still sleeping through and still doing half bf and half bottles so things are pretty good. I've found the last few weeks that we are really in a good routine, I don't know whether she is happier or whether I'm getting better at predicting her.

Aud had her first swimming lesson last Saturday! It was so cute her and DH in the pool. She really is a little frog and absolutely loves the water. Dreading the day that DH can't go and I have to bare my post preg body to the world!!!!

Curash under the neck is great! I use it too.

2s'nuff
23-04-2007, 12:59
Seems like we have a bunch of TV addicts already:eek: :laughing: . TJ loves the Bananas and the Wiggles. If DD1 is watching either during at feed time, and TJ catches a glimpse of it I might as well give up on the feed.

Took TJ to the docs this morning as her tummy is still not right. Doc suggested she may have a bit of lactose intollerance. Seems a tummy bug can strip their intestines of whatever it is, making the intollerant for a while. She said if TJ's still not right by next week to put her on lactose free formula for a while.

Have just managed to change a yucky nappy, with TJ gripped under one arm while I took of her bonds suit. Have worked out when I lay her down, the poo squishes out the back of the nappy, making even more of a mess:laughing: .

Have a great day, can't wait to catch up with the Perthies again next week.

tired*mummy
23-04-2007, 13:58
Hi everyone,
Heaps to catch up on after the weekend.
Sierra is still sleeping quite well. Saturday night was DH turn to get up for the night/early morning feeds and Sierra slept from 6pm til 6am... that was great but i was secretly hoping she would make him get up a few times :laughing: Last night wasnt too bad either... she wwent down at 5:15pm, woke at 9pm for some reason and wanted a feed and have a play for 45mins then went back to sleep and woke at 5am and then woke again at 8.45am. So wasnt too bad but wish it was DH that had to get up at 5am lol.

Today she rolled from her tummy to her back for teh first time :smiliedance: So that was great and she has been no stopping chattin away. Its very cute.

Hope everyone has a great day... sorry no personals, havent had time to read all the posts just yet.
:wave:

aries_moon
23-04-2007, 14:14
in case I missed it in anyone else's PM's, the time for the meet next mon. is from 10AM onwards.......Sorry bout that:o If anyone still needs my address, please PM me.

Have a great day

Karrina
23-04-2007, 15:16
Hi Ladies,

In case I don't manage to get on here later....GOODBYE:wave:

I am off to SA tomorrow, my Centrelink stuff has come through. I hope to be back in a few weeks and that DH has moved out :D

Goodluck and speak soon

Charis
23-04-2007, 15:55
:wave: All the best Karrina!! We'll be thinking of you. Hope your precious two have a lovely holiday away. All best to x-DP too. Hard time for all. Gosh all the best packing too!! :yelclap: Be great out there tomorrow, Wide Open Road!! xx

aries_moon
23-04-2007, 16:44
good luck Karrina! you will all be in my thoughts, please take care:hugs:

Flicka
23-04-2007, 17:25
Yes, big :hugs: Karrina. Drive safe and take care. Will be thinking of you...

I understand what you have all been saying about smelly little fists and neck folds. Curash is good, I also use the johnsons nappy lotion (in the pink bottle). It says nappy lotion on it but it is also and all over moisturiser and smells divine. Alot of people comment on how Kelsey smells so nice but it is just the cream. Plus, i have switched to 2 baths a day a few weeks back and that has made a huge difference. I find the evening bath prepares her for dinner and bedtime and has cut out the awful evening screams (or maybe that is just her age).

Anyway, Kelsey and i were having a 'girls evening' as Dh has taken DS to the football. However, kelsey is already asleep so I have the evening to myself........whoohoo.

take care
flicka xxx

*Sparkles*
23-04-2007, 17:44
YAY to all babies who are rolling! Gosh, it will be soon be babies crawling :eek:

Karrina - Have a safe trip to Adelaide, I hope you get chance to hop online when you are away. The break from your DH and normal life should do you some good. I hope things run smoothly upon your return too. Take care :hugs:

Mouse - Sounds like the lactose Intolerance formula might be the way to go with TJ.

Tired*Mummy and Victoria75 - I have PM'd you both about the next Melb meet.

Flicka - I use the pink lotion too. R always gets a massage with it after a bath, he loves having his feet done lol.

Not much happening here, we went for a long walk and then to Coles this arvo. I took 2 unopened tins of Nan formula back to the chemist and they very kindly exchanged it for the Karicare AR. So I'm pleased we didn't get stuck with it.

I'm meeting a couple of friends & bubs for lunch tomorrow. Then Wednesday is Anzac Day and we are going to visit some friends who live in the country.

I've decided this SAHM thing isn't so bad afterall :laughing:

jacstar31
23-04-2007, 18:44
that sounds like a great idea with curash - have just started using that on his bottom. so will try on his neck and creases as well!!

karrina - hope all goes well with the drive!!

TV - yeah Geoffrey loves it too....trying to make sure its not too much of a habit..lol!!

Tabby
23-04-2007, 20:20
Just a quick post as have Education dept checkup tomorrow ( home schooled teen ) So have to make sure alls ready for inspection.

Karrina: Take care love :hugs:. Hope to see you back here soon.

AriesMoon: See you there Monday! Am looking forward to it.

Hels: Have fun the meet tomorrow. Glad you got to get a refund the formula.

Charis: Got the letter today. Again Thanks! Is that a roll of ribbon in there????
Will send off for our huggies mat this week YAY.

We have needles this week AGAIN already. :eek: where did the time go?
Am dreading these ones more than the first. Am sure my heart will break this time as her sad face is a heartbreaker as it is!
Probably go tomorrow or Wed.

mim1
23-04-2007, 21:38
Josh moved into his room on Saturday night (was in the lounge room) and it hasn't actually been a smooth transition. I left him in the bassinette to hopefully make it easier, but no, he wakes after each sleep cycle (45 minutes - almost to the dot) during the day and needs resettling in my arms. It's been a long couple of days. He did sleep at night though, only crying out twice and resettling quickly and needing one feed at 5am. How soon did everyone elses bubs adjust to similar changes? I wish I'd put him straight into his cot cause he'll do this all over again won't he? I don't have the energy to deal with this again!

flicka ... 2 baths a day? Heck, where do you find the time? Josh gets 2 baths a week! The CHN told us that babies only need 1 - 2 baths a week and more often can cause dry skin, so I actually followed that advice.

tabby ... I'm dreading josh's next round of needles ... we've got heaps of things coming up in may and I've already decided it will be 4 months and 1 week when he gets his next round ... there's too much going on earlier. I was so traumatised by his last vaccinations and the aftermath. All the best for this week!

karrina ... farewell! Hope we see you again soon! Will be praying for a safe trip for you and your little ones and that things all work out ... :hugs:

Tabby
23-04-2007, 21:59
Cheeki: Ive been giving katie rice cereal for 2 weeks. We started early though for her reflux, shes now cereal for brekkie and custards etc for dinner. Shes taken very well to it with no problems.
She knows now when its coming ( me with bowl and spoon in hand ) and gets all excited lol.

Mim: I bath katie daily but only because I love that fresh shampoo and baby smell lol. Also its part of her bedtime routine and knows it so well now that bath means bottle and bed not long after, so come after the bath she plays for a little then yells for the bottle and bed, even if its only been 2 hrs since last then out like a light.
You might find the to cot transition a bit easier, theres lots to see and hopefully hes occupied by it to self settle. :fingerscrossed: for you.

freddie
23-04-2007, 22:06
hi all
:hugs: Karrina if you get this.
I've had a !@# day starting with the point where I was literally about to push the button to produce a BAS statement on the computer program when the handle broke off my cup of tea and spilled it all over the lap top!! I have to dry it out for a few days then see what the damage is. Hamish woke just as I was finishing mopping up.
We had our first swimming lesson today which was great fun - Hamish took it in his stride but it tuckered him out. Not that that translated into sleep this arvo though.
I've been trawling the quokka (WA paper for selling stuff) to get a cot as the one we were going to inherit won't be available for a few weeks more and we don't want to wait any longer. I feel that the older Hamish gets the harder it will be to make the transition and he is changing all the time. Its so amazing.
Well I'm exhausted so should head off to bed. night everyone.
kx
ps sorry for the self-centred post, my brain is fried tonight

Cordelia
23-04-2007, 23:21
Well I've just put Caitlin in the cot without the bassinette for the first time!! She was verrryyy restless and it took 90 minutes for her to go to sleep. i just hope she lasts the night. I was a little teary to see her go to her big "bed"!!

We won't be starting solids til she's 6 months. We're going to Melbourne in June for a holiday (yay!) and then we'll start when we get back - seems easy that way! Breastfed babies can last a bit longer without solids I think...?

She was FOUR MONTHS today!! Unbelievable... I guess I'd better take her for her needles... might go tomorrwo afternoon :(

Anyway, better get to bed in case I have a lousy night's sleep

PS I slept in until 9:20 this morning!!!

PPS - aries: thanks for the PM... cya then :)

Lukeandmattsmum
24-04-2007, 06:54
Mim if Josh is used to sleeping in the lounge room, maybe he is used to the noise and now his bedroom is too quiet. Try and put a radio/cd player in his room and play it quietly and see how he goes. Just a thought anyway.

Matt is due for his needles next week.:crying:

Matt slept from 9:30pm till 5:30am last night:smiliedance: now lets hope it stays like this.

Matt is getting pretty good at rolling also. He goes from his tummy to his back.He has been doing it for a week or so now.

*Sparkles*
24-04-2007, 07:38
:smiliedance: 10pm to 8am for us last night! I thought he was never going to wake up! He is now laying on my bed doing a no #2 so I think I'll wait until he's finished :rolleyes:
We will start putting his basinette in the cot from this weekend, I think he is ready now. We have moved his basinette around in his bedroom before so he is used to the change in scenery lol.

Bathing - I generally bath him every second day and do a strip wash on the alternate day. But when he was more sickie I would bath him everyday as the back of his hair would get matted and yucky. I also like his hands submerged in water as they get so smelly from being in his mouth all day lol. I'm always wiping them with a wet face washer too.

Not looking forward to the next round of needles either, it was very hard last time. We still have another month to go. Not looking at solids just yet either. R drinks 200mls of formula before bed now, and 150-180mls during the day.
All is good :D

Gotta go as I'm meeting friends for lunch. Hooroo :wave:

mim1
24-04-2007, 09:10
Had a hilarious morning this morning. Josh called out to me via the monitor at 7:20am and I was in the room probably 1 minute after the first noise came through. I looked down at him and realised he didn't have his jumpsuit on his shoulders ... then I realised he didn't have it on his left arm either! So, I pulled back the wrap and his other arm was also free of clothes ... I eventually found the long sleeve, long arm jumpsuit below the top of his nappy! Yep, somehow he'd wriggled it off his shoulders, over both of his arms and down to his legs. It was so funny! Even Josh thought so ... although the delay for my laughter, a few photos (I couldn't resist) and getting him dressed in a SINGLET and a new jumpsuit meant that he was sobbing with hysteria by the time he actually got milk.

He's done really well in the last 12 hours. He fed at 8:45pm at my parents house, then we came home, got him changed and he was asleep within 20 minutes and NO screaming just a few grizzles. He slept from 10pm til 2:20am (eik, it's been a while since I've fed at that time and I forgot that I struggle to wake up). He settled quickly and we were both in bed by 3am, then he woke at 7:20am. He's been asleep since 8:30am and I've heard a noise (grunt) at the transition through sleep cycles, but no screaming this morning and we're coming up to 2 hours of sleep. Yeah! :smiliedance: He has his heart sound CD playing in his room at all times, which seems to help ... although I'm getting pretty sick of it!

I'm quite torn about starting solids. I know cause of Josh's reflux starting at 4 months is a good idea, but my dh & I have bad allergies and they (whoever they are) say to delay starting to 6 months if there is a strong family history of allergies. I'm going to ask his paed when we see him next week.

SammyG
24-04-2007, 09:27
Hilarious, Josh getting out of his jumpsuit!

We had a good night, thank goodness as I was cactus! I was asleep on the lounge at 8pm. DH gave M a bottle of EBM at 9pm and I had to wake up to express GGRRRR. Then not up till 4am for a quick feed and back to bed till 7:30am. Then we had an exploding poo to start off the day!

It's a miserable day here in Sydney, had to postpone a playdate at the park till next week. I have loads of washing to do, at least the dryer will keep the unit toasty all day!

M has a bath whenever the timing with feeds works out! DH's job every 2-3 days. M isn't a chucky bub so doesn't get smelly thank goodness, he does have a lot of hair though so it looks a bit greasy by Day 3.

Hels, lucky you with such a great night!

Cordelia, I'm doing the same as you, going away 1st weekend in June so not even contemplating solids till the end of that month.

Freddie, hope the laptop makes a good recovery and thanks for the reminder about the BAS, must do DH's, have already done DB's and only have to do a NIL Activity for myself via a phone call.

Cheeki, the twins are gorgeous, love the pics posted in the other thread.

Ahhh well, better get back to boring old HW, have neglected the place lately and having visitors this arvo so the place needs a spruce up!

jacstar31
24-04-2007, 09:57
Sammy & hels - golad you both had good nights!!

I have had a bit of a revelation and have realised that Geoffrey needs to go longer in between feeds during day....I am going to stretch him out to every 4 hours now, as I think I have been demand feeding and then he is only having little 'snacks' and not enough full feeds and I feel like I am feeding him all the time!!
I have been guilty of when he is grizzly...just stick boobie in his mouth!!

SammyG
24-04-2007, 10:06
Jacstar, I have been feeding every 3hrs during the day and sometimes he now stretches to 3.5 or 4. I don't like him going longer as he is not a chubba bubba and I still want him to get 5-6 feeds in a day. He goes 6-8hrs every night now so I don't mind feeding in the day. I agree about the annoying snacking, it's terribly frustrating getting the boobies out for him to just play and make a mess!

sugar n spice
24-04-2007, 10:45
Mim1 - that is so cute.

Hels - i too usually only bathe him every second day and give a wipe down in between

Ashton rolled over for the first time yesterday. It was so funny he rolled onto his side and then sort of rocked there for awhile and then rolled onto his back. he was like aww what happened and then he had this huge grin like Yay.

Pices_79
24-04-2007, 12:08
Hi everyone

I cant beleive your bubs are rolling already - what clever little cookies :):) DD keeps rolling onto her side but not all the way over - I dont think she understands what she is doing

We give DD a bath every night...DH gets into the big bath with her - she just loves being nude....she gets so excited!!! It is sooo funny to watch. Her left leg pushes up and her right leg tries to move her body around...classic!

Are your bubs in 00s??? DD is in 000s - I dont think she will be in 00s until probably June???? She is 3 and a half months??? She is quite long (around 63cm) but still under 6kg....She is chubbing (is that a word LOL) up a bit now though....

Wishing you all the best for your big move Karrina!!!!

LOVE hearing all about the Jan (and late Dec) bubs prgress!!!

SammyG
24-04-2007, 12:16
Pices, M sounds similar build to your DD. He will be in OO soon, just for the length! He's not rolling yet either!

sugar n spice
24-04-2007, 12:30
ashton is in 00 but i think in a month or so he will be in 0 clothes. im already starting to stock up on 0 clothes

Pices_79
24-04-2007, 12:42
Has anyone started their bubs on Farex or Solids yet???

sugar n spice
24-04-2007, 12:48
i tried ash on farex but he was so grumpy all day that im holding off

Tabby
24-04-2007, 13:24
Katies in 000's and a couple of 00"s, but usually they are a bit on the big side.

SammyG
24-04-2007, 13:48
I can't wait to pick up my laybys of M's 00's, it was hard leaving them in the shops in the 1st place, I only put them on layby because I didn't have room to store them.