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MilkOnTap
08-03-2007, 23:17
I had a chat with my MIL tonight and apparantly there is a long history of testicular cancer in my husbands family (nice to know these things isn't it :rolleyes: )

Anyway - we have decided against circumcision up til now - but now I know these facts about the family history its got me wondering... Obviously the penis and testicles are two separate organs - but would circumcision have any direct or indirect effect on the possibility of testicular cancer becoming an issue?

I cant see how it would - just thought I would put the question ou there... :o

Mamaduke
08-03-2007, 23:20
I highly doubt there would be a link between the two but let me put it this way;
if you had a family history of breast cancer you'd make sure that any daughter would know how to do self examinations properly and routinely and not straight away have a mastectomy.

MilkOnTap
08-03-2007, 23:23
Yeah - this is pretty much along the lines of what I was thinking mamaduke...

It was only by chance that I found out tonight that there is a history of testicular cancer in the family(hubby doesn't even know!); I wonder what else there is that anyone has accidentally forgotten to tell us??

It was interesting afterwards - I then went on to ask the MIL about other penile infections in the family!!! Not the kind of conversation you generally promote with the MIL... It had to be done though!

reAllytee
08-03-2007, 23:25
The two wouldnt be linked, totally different areas.

Its more so of a concern that you keep an eye on things in regards to his testes & that he know as he gets older that he keeps an eye on things.
Hilarious really when we all know they cant keep their hands off them ;)

MilkOnTap
08-03-2007, 23:28
Hilarious really when we all know they cant keep their hands off them

LOL - So true...

Thing is - when they're teenagers I cant imagine them being quite so open to telling people that they have a lump thats apparantly been there for years... Thats what has happened to hubby's 18yo cousin :( He is on a waiting list to be operated on - but the earliest he could get in is late Aug/early Sept. So the g'parents are going to pay for him to go to a private hospital so he can get it done in a few weeks...

And yes - its cancerous :(

circangel
08-03-2007, 23:28
Hello Pinklady

Personally I would doubt it and just like breast cancer it is detectable by feeling the testicles for lumps. If you have any doubts though I would recommend you seek professional medical advice.

Mamaduke
08-03-2007, 23:29
It was only by chance that I found out tonight that there is a history of testicular cancer in the family(hubby doesn't even know!); I wonder what else there is that anyone has accidentally forgotten to tell us??

That's another reason why I've always thought that men should come with 'pedigree papers'...
listing their breed & parentage (and the parent's temperament!!!!!) and if they're prone to any illnesses.
We got one with our dog...why not our men?! ;)

On a serious note though...make sure hubby knows about this and learns how to do a self examination...
which I've kindly added a link to
here!! (http://tcrc.acor.org/tcexam.html)

MilkOnTap
08-03-2007, 23:33
That's another reason why I've always thought that men should come with 'pedigree papers'... listing their breed & parentage (and the parent's temperament!!!!!) and if they're prone to any illnesses. We got one with our dog...why not our men?! ;)

Brilliant idea!!!

Behavioural problems in the associated parentage and blood line are a MUST!!! :laughing:

Mamaduke
08-03-2007, 23:34
Behavioural problems in the associated parentage and blood line are a MUST!!! :laughing:

Ha! Preachin' to the choir here sista!!! :yes: :yes: :yes:

reAllytee
08-03-2007, 23:39
LOL - So true...

Thing is - when they're teenagers I cant imagine them being quite so open to telling people that they have a lump thats apparantly been there for years... Thats what has happened to hubby's 18yo cousin :( He is on a waiting list to be operated on - but the earliest he could get in is late Aug/early Sept. So the g'parents are going to pay for him to go to a private hospital so he can get it done in a few weeks...

And yes - its cancerous :(

This happened with a cousin of mine too luckily it wasnt cancerous but boy did he cop a lecture !

Hopefully things wont go too bad for him & luckily he is getting his surgery done sooner. Lots of positive vibes sent their way !



MD - Bl00dy good idea !!!!
I was horrifed about what DP's parents did to him & his brothers in regards to abuse but the fact they have genetic issues etc that were never resolved or treated makes me furious.
My mum was horrifed seeing DP's brother & is now more understanding as to why im so fussy about Harry & all his check ups !!!!

MotherNurture
09-03-2007, 01:44
This sort of reminds me of one of my friends who was considering circumcision because she heard it decreased the risk of *prostate* (yes, prostate) cancer. Of course, the prostate and foreskin are separate areas; I'd never heard prostate cancer and the foreskin being associated, so I asked around and there were no studies linking the two.

I did a brief googling and really didn't find much of anything, but it seems that circumcision status is still rumored to be associated generally with risk "penile cancers". This information from the American Cancer Society and Canadian Paediatric Society should be reassuring:


Circumcision slightly lowers the risk of developing cancer of the penis in later life. However, this form of cancer is very rare. One of every one million men who are circumcised will develop cancer of the penis each year. By comparison, 3 of every one million men who are not circumcised will develop penile cancer each year.

http://www.caringforkids.cps.ca/babies/Circumcision.htm


In the past, circumcision has been suggested as a way to prevent penile cancer. This suggestion was based on studies that reported much lower penile cancer rates among circumcised men than among uncircumcised men. However, most researchers now believe those studies were flawed because they failed to consider other factors that are now known to affect penile cancer risk.

...The current consensus of most experts is that circumcision should not be recommended as a prevention strategy for penile cancer.

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/content/CRI_2_4_2X_Can_penile_cancer_be_prevented_35.asp

That is 0.0003% of intact men, versus 0.0001% of circumcised men.

Regarding the comparison to breast cancer, this is interesting:

Over 200,000 cases of breast cancer are expected to be diagnosed in 2005, and 1% of cases of breast cancer occur in men. This means that a man has a much higher chance of acquiring breast cancer than penile cancer.

http://imaginis.com/breasthealth/statistics.asp

http://www.seattlecca.org/patientsandfamilies/adultCare/clinicalProgs/breastCancer/breastCancerMen/

Worldwide stats for comparison: http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/p/penis_cancer/stats-country.htm

Jen

Icky78
10-03-2007, 16:18
That's another reason why I've always thought that men should come with 'pedigree papers'...
listing their breed & parentage (and the parent's temperament!!!!!) and if they're prone to any illnesses.
We got one with our dog...why not our men?! ;)




:laughing: u crack me up Mamaduke. Will suggest this to DH's mates and GFs tonight.