January 2007 Mums - March chat

[Hels*Bels]

Here's the thread for march ladies :D

Have a great weekend and sending :sleeping: vibes to all!!

[mim1]

just a quick hello! It's been a hectic few days. dh went back to work yesterday, so suddenly nights were on my own as well as the days. That was the theory, then josh cried all afternoon yesterday and was really irritable He wouldn't sleep for more than a few minutes here and there and so neither did I. It was his worst day in a couple of weeks. Then last night he was dreadful, highly irritable and inconsolable lots of the time ... dh was exhausted and went to bed at 9:30pm (early for him), but thankfully got up three hours later when he heard josh screaming. dh let me go and get a little bit of sleep, then I got up at 2am, eventually calming Josh down by about 3am and getting him to feed properly ... and then he fell asleep (he'd pretty much been awake since midday the day before). he didn't wake til 8:30am ... I was up at 7am to express though, but then I could sleep again. Mum came over this morning and let me catch some more sleep. Josh has been much better today though and we both got some sleep this afternoon! And now it's the weekend and dh is free to help! Yeah!

hels ... when i spoke to the paediatrician about reflux he cared about whether josh was irritable after feeds, not about whether he was actually vomiting up the feeds. He said that as long as the vomiting wasn't large volume, projectile and new then it wasn't a problem in its self. For Josh, reflux meant that he would cry or grizzle 15 - 30 minutes after lying down ... or at worst he would scream when he wasn't completely upright (like all day yesterday). I don't recommend using mylanta without discussing it with a doctor. It has got things in it that are harmful to babies long term and my paediatrician said it was definitely a very short term thing.

Well, dh is watching Joshua and it's already been an hour since his feed, so I should make the most of it and get some sleep!

[finalcountdown!]

hi everyone,

bella angel - You said your bubs was born big, what did he weigh? I cant believe a nurse said to limit his food?? Surely that would be wrong for such a young baby? Can they really over eat!!??

Strawberry - good idea about the laybying of clothes for winter, i think i might go and do that next week. Atm Im having trouble getting him more trendy summer stuff, hes in 000 and some 00, but everything out is winter stuff already, so dont know what im going to do!!

Charis - Yes good idea, ive written down the sounds for reference, a couple of them i just havent heard him make though...hes got a real 'aarrhhh; sound cry...when hes in pain . And i agree, dont you just love it when they fall asleep straight after feeding!! :smiliedance:

2cutekidz - Lucky you having a holiday!! Where abouts are you staying in Qld.? Your son will no doubt love DREAMWORLD!! THeres also australia zoo (steve irwin one) up the sunshine coast.

sugar and spice - so are you just using the lactose free for the short term? I just put jett on lactose free after all the problems we ve had with him and the constant screaming. He s been on it about 4 days now and thank god , the screaming is getting less and he is starting to poo!! Today he actually did 2, so i guess this means his bowels are starting to settle and get used to it!! I dont think ive ever been soo excited about a baby pooing! Hope it helps ur bub.

ellembee - thanks for the tip on wind. I find with my little man i have to do this. He is just such a windy baby. He seems to be able to only drink 30ml before he gets a pain and needs to burp, and the burps he does are massive? Ive changed to the avent bottles to but he still seems to suck in just as much air.

Tabby - fingers crossed that your DP does well at his interviews. It must be stressful having all t his happening when youeve just had a new bub !

As for the weightloss, now that i am no longer b/f i ve decided to go on the Tony Ferguson diet to give me a bit of a kick start!! On day 4 atm, havent weighed myself yet, will do so every week, and hope it comes off fast!!
Ive started walking again on the days i manage to get out...just need to get back into the gym now. Cant wait to fit back into my old clothes!

As for the going back to work, im a sahm, havent worked since DD was born 5 years ago. Am planning to start doing some study soon though so when bubs is 5 or 6 i can get back into the workforce!

Cate = with our private health, we d already paid the excess for the year so didnt have to pay that, the only bill we did get was for the paedtrician visits at the hospital.

Cant rember who it was that said the tip about the baby bjorn and then thought it was a silly suggestion, well the last couple of nights, the only way i can settle Jett a little is to hold him infront of me in that position!! So maybe i should invest in one. I think he just likes being up right and the pressure of my hands on his tummy!

Took him to the chiropractor too. It was amazing, he did some kneisieology (sorry spelling!??), i held Jett and he put his fingers on his neck, he then asked me to push back against his arm, i did and could nt push hard at all and he could push my arm away easily.
He then took his hand off Jett and asked me to do it again,and it was much stronger and he couldnt push my arm away !! He said that Jetts nervous system effects my own nervous system. He then got his bottle with the formula in it and put it against Jetts chest and did the same thing.
My reaction was weak, he said that this indicates that this formula was no good for him and that i should put him on goats milk!!

The only problem was that my CHN had told me NOT to change his formula again, just let him get used to this one first. So will give him another week or two, but in the mean time will keep taking him to the chiro as he has improved a fair bit. The chiro said his vertabrae were quite out of alignment.

Everyone is talking about contraception, starting to make me a bit nervous!! I have never used anything..never really had periods due to polycysitc ovary syndrome. My first child was just very lucky to happen, and my bub is IVF. I guess im just presuming 'ill be right', but then i ve heard alot of stories about this kinda thing!! Maybe i should look into it!!

Jett is still doing the 3 hourly feeds through the night..wondering when he is going to stretch them out a little! Not looking forward to needles next week.

Is there any other QLD mums on this thread??

Anyways, should be asleep while hes in bed, dont you love it when you are soo tired and you finally finish everything, lay your head on the pillow, and then you hear their cry !!! Its as if they know sometimes, im sure!!!

[bossoflatch]

wow - it takes so long to catch up on things now -

the last few days have been unbearable for me at the moment - starting wednesday - tayla was not sleeping no more than 20 mins and not feeding well , when she was feeding she was gulping her feed and not taking the ebm either - was starting to panic and than she got a temp - panic mode !!! started the cool baths etc.... bare in mind that she was gulping on the feed and had soooo much wind that she had the worst belly aches and her poos where really frothy (sorry tmi i know)

she settled at 1am i think in the end only to wake at about 7am and then the hole thing started again - it wasn't until about 5pm yesterday afternoon that she started coughing - sneezing and really obvious that she had a cold - HER FIRST COLD !!! well i went straight out to get her some panadol and some infant dimetapp (sp) and gave her some for her snuffy nose - ( now i noticed it !!! i couldn't believe i missed that was why she was gulping !!! ) and she fed beautifully and then slept from about 10 pm - 6 am - thank goodness - and today i have been able to keep up with the panadol for her and she has been catching up on her sleep and feeding like a champ!!!'

i hate giving her the medicines but i figure if you can give them one or two doses to settle them then that is better in the long run??? i don't know anymore !!!

thanks for the insight on the contraception though !!
but - sorry if tmi - but has everyone done the deed since giving birth... i am scared ****less - as you can see i have a 6 and 5 year old - born within 11 months of each other and i was on the mini pill when i fell with the second - so the very thought of doing anything with DH is frightening me - that is my contraception at the moment :laughing:

but honestly - has everyone been there - done that yet??? i really want to enjoy this baby by herself - as i much as i love the boys and wouldn't change the way things happened i don't want to be in that situation again ...

mim1 - so totally agree with you on the mylanta issue - the peadiatrician put tayla on it - first of 1ml after each feed when she was unsettled and now she is only on a dose about once every other day... she was more unsettled than chucky but sometimes you could really smell the acid rising...

good night to all - tayla has been sleeping since about 8.30 so i am going to get an early night and hopefully she sleeps thru - (just realised that i still have to express then !!!)

another point - with mummies with babies that are sleeping thru 8 +hours - how many times do you express during the night - i usually wait four hours after she goes down before i sleep - and i will express before going to bed and that way - four hours later - she wakes and i am full again - it just means that i don't get a full sleep thru like her - what do you all do??? i can't sleep any longer than 5-6 hours as i wake up full and leaking everywhere....

night night
leisa

[Karrina]

Mim, Cordelia and Leisa I really feel for you girls, sleep deprivation is torture! I have been so lucky with DS so far, but my DD nearly drove me mental with her crying during the nights plus I was back at ft work when she was 6 weeks old. I really understand that feeling of 'loosing it' and 'going bananas' when there isn't a lot of sleep. Hoping things settle for you girls and bubs soon...a bit of sleep magic:sleeping: :wizard:

Flicka - up here in the NT all children get the Rota Virus injections as it is rife in Central Australia. My DD got it a couple of years ago and we spent 3 nights in hospital. She lost so much weight in such a short time.

Cate - re working, I go back in July but part time. I am hoping to negotiate working from home on a project of some sort (I work at a Uni) with my boss. Maybe I will get some childcare for Billy as I am not really sure how much I will get done at home pending his sleep/play routine (need a crystal ball really). I then go back fulltime in December, my DD starts school in Jan 07 and Billy will start ft childcare. I would love to stay at home longer but financially can't do it.

Hope you girls all like my new avatar....Telling you now Billy hated every minute of it! (Bunny hat on head)

[Lukeandmattsmum]

Ok i have a lot of catching up to do.

Matthew has been sleeping a bit better. Feeding well, usually 4-5hrl at night and 3-4hrly in the day or when he thinks he is hungry.

[B]Tummy time[B] He has a little bit of time on his tummy and doesn't seem to mind it. But he does love sleeping on his tummy, he generally sleeps on his tummy during the day and back at night.

CATE i will pm you shortley but that date and time sounds good to me.

FINALCOUNTDOWN i am a brissie mum where abouts are you?

LEISA I am the same as you Matt goes down by 8 usually then i wait up to express or else i feel as if i will explode. so i still feel like i am sleep deprived.

The doctor gave me a script for the mini pill but i don't particularly feel like taking it while i am bf. So i might wait till i finish bf. Hubby can take charge of it for once. When we eventually get back to doing that:p .

Leisa i am a bit scared of going there again as i remember the discomfort first time round after DS1. Will get there one day. Poor hubby:o

Anyway must go and express and go to bed. :sleeping:

[Charis]

:wave: Thanks for all the swimming/wet nappy comments. Hunter just loves 'tummy time' in the bath, so looking forward to the pool.

Why on earth didn't I have a real routine till a week ago??? Nights are now gorgeous, well he cries just before it, but then the music goes on and all is calmbath massage feed sleep..if only we had the same things ourselves :laughing:

Leisa I wake thinking "express" about 3am as am leaking..but sometimes I find its suddenly 5am and he's stirring. oops.Its just me though, so no DH to complain about the state of the bed!! I ususally express just a bit before the official first feed.

FinalCountDown it was me about the Baby Bjorn and Chiro also. Great to know about the alignment issues, it really may make a difference :fingerscrossed: BBjorns are great!! He's in it once sometimes twice a day and is asleep within minutes..

Hels I know what you mean about not needing an alarm! And excellent about food being prepared for you our Mothers are great aren't they!!

Cordelia DHs mates, hmm! Make sure he cleans up!!

Tabby isnt it? about CL, I think we're all in agreeance. I went in when pregnant.."can I have an interview/fill out forms etc etc" "will be easier than when I'm here with a bub..""no come back when you've had bub" Now I of course have to supply horrible difficult forms oh and get the business tax done..before they process some of it!! Just what you want to do with 4-7wk bub..yes its taking a while!

Mim1 so good she's breathing/feeding more clearly. Did I read 2 colds by 8weeks or so??

Hunter is cooing these days which is just lovely. And Im a WorkFromHome Mum (at the moment) reasonably flexible, so will be unlikely to be fulltime again for a whle. But haven't had leave either.

Nice sleeps all!! Hi Kariina/Cheeki/Luke+Matts some how we all posted together.xx

[Hels*Bels]

Mim1 - Thanks for the advice about mylanta, I'm going to stop using it until I see my doctor next week. I might go back to using infacol but only when he needs it.
I hope Josh settles for you this weekend :fingerscrossed:

Leisa - Sorry to hear Tayla has a cold, I am dreading that day!
I am not taking any contraception yet, will wait until AF returns. We haven't done the "dead" yet either. It's only been 5 weeks for me and I am still concerned about a possible prolapsed uterus which gets checked out by the OB in 2 week's time. So I think it will be quite a while for us yet (poor DH). Also, I have no libido ATM, my whole life revolves around caring for bubs and trying to get some sleep.

Cheeki - I take my hat off to you and the twins, you do such a great job and I know you have other kids to manage too. The play group sounds like a great idea for the 3 of you. I'm starting one next week too.
To those of you already at play group, do you take your bubs in the pusher or do you carry them in???

Charis and Tabby - I agree that CL sucks. They have no consideration for a new mum at all. When I enquired about parenting payment they sent out a mountain of forms and expected me to go into their office and wait to be seen, no appointment just sit and wait your turn. As if I am going to do that with a new baby :rolleyes:

I had a better night :smiliedance: I went to bed at 9.30pm and DH did the last feed and got Reece ready for bed etc. I woke at 3am for a feed and then 7am. I feel alot more refreshed today. We have also turned off the baby monitor in our room so his chatting doesn't keep me awake anymore. I can hear him thru the wall and we have a unit in his room that sounds an alarm if he stops breathing for 20 secs (it's an angel care one).
We are going to a sleep and settling class this morning, so I'll come back and share any tips if it's any good lol.
Mum is going to look after Reece whilst we are out so the break will be nice for a few hours.

[bossoflatch]

sorry not much of a post today - tayla has slept from 8.30ish to 4.40 this morning just like a tropper !!! so i hope the worst of her cold is over - i think i will keep giving her the dimetapp as her nose is still congested and i want her to keep feeding ....

hels*bels - just a quickie - have you tried bubs on gripe water - tayla hates it plain on her tounge - she will scream and try not to swallow it - but i give her the two mls in about 10mls of water and it helps with the wind and it also has an antacid in it. so i always try this and after discussion with the peadiatrician then i try her on the mylanta... - sometimes though the gripe water is enough. -

oh - been trying the baby talk thing this morning - finally recognising some of the sounds - so trying to teach hubby them :fingerscrossed:
have a great day

leisa

p.s. so glad to hear i am not the only one - not having done the deed ... i thought i might of been a little unreasonable with hubby - dsb !!!! lol

[victoria75]

Hi everyone, Hope all had a good nights sleep!! Can anyone help me with sleeping problems? She is fantastic at night but will not sleep during the day unless she is being carried. Does anyone else have this problem? If not what techniques do you use to put them to sleep after play time? All help greatly appreciated. Have a good weekend.

[jacstar31]

hi all
can't believe that it is March already!!!

I am planning to stay home till August, go back to work then and DH will be staying home with Geoffrey.
I am probably going to negotiate part time work, thinking four days a week with one of those days from home.

Geoffrey has been still sleeping well, all depends on what we have done during the day...if we have had an active day, been out somewhere he sleeps alot better and longer, which makes sense, just like us I guess!

I haven't really expressed at all, Geoffrey is feeding about 3-4 hrs during day and cluster feeds at night and then sleeps for 8-10hrs at night, so it seems to be working well.

I feel soooo guilty we were out y'day and Geoffrey got a little sunburnt on arms and cheeks, I am such a bad mum!!! btw I also got mega burnt, very bad mummy!!

[Charis]

A good morning to all:wave:
shorty: Victoria75 day sleeps: babybjorn and walking, the CAR..luckily I have to go out each day mostly, besides that pacing. I now don't mind too much if he doesn't sleep (hey right!) but tends to get all quiet after 20mins of trying usually after 2nd feed of day and then stays quiet, but no yawns and then realises he's hungry! He sleeps 5.5 + 3 at night (now) and 0-20min-2hrs every 3/4hrs during the day.

Jacstar sorry about the sunburn..I think Hunter got sunburnt on his head about 4wks..I was so convinced it was cradle cap I almost convinced others :laughing:

Happy class Hels :)

[Tabby]

victoria: Have you tried swaddling her? Katie will not sleep unless I do. If that doesnt work and I still have trouble getting her to nap I pop her in the motor rocker chair and she naps for about a hr which is better than nothing. Technique here involves, feed, nappy change, then play, as soon as I see shes getting tired we have a cuddle and when her eyes are starting to close its off to bed, swaddled in her blanket, musical mobile on and into bed, sometimes I have to keep going back for the dummy and sometimes not at all. thats really about it, oh and sometimes if it takes a bit to get her off ill pick her up and cuddle her till she nods off ( no longer ) and back to bed. Hope that helps and you find a solution soon

leisa: glad it wasnt too bad a cold and the worst seems over

Hels: glad your feeling better today. yes cl sucks, we have to go in again tues and for ANOTHER sit and wait interview, you may well see me on the news lol I plan on NOT moving until a payment is set, enough is enough its been 3 weeks and my kids will be suffering soon.
Katie did her 8hrs again YAY, and the 4 am feed she was so sleepy through it all I dont think she will need that one soon as well.
Have also picked up on one of her im ready for sleep signs, she gets her hands into fists and cuddles them to her chest, would figure why she still finds comfort in swaddling.
am off out for coffee later today with best friend so am really looking forward to it, its been tooooo long and I need the break from home

Shes bringing back up HEAPS of the 8am feed! shes also in a cuddle mood this morning.
uhoh gotta run shes quite grizzly. sorry for no more personals will try later

xx
Vicki

[Tabby]

oh am wondering now why some were 3 needles and others like Kaites were 2 ?? :confused:

[victoria75]

Thanks for the suggestions. Vicki - I do swaddle her but she just goes to nod of in my arms so I put her down within 10 mins she is screaming. I have tried to just pat her bottom till she settles but nothing works.
It is getting very hard to get anything done.:banghead: :banghead:

[Flicka]

Hi ladies.

Had a great night last night. Kelsey went to bed at 6pm which allowed me to have some time with DS and read him stories in bed before he went to sleep at 7.30pm. AND then Kelsey slept until 3am!!! That's the longest she has ever slept in one go. But, as usual instead of getting a great sleep, I kept waking to check her and wonder when she was getting up. Also my leaking (.)(.)'s kept me awake. Leisa you were asking about expressing overnight. I don't bother - mine just drip when they are full and I put a cloth nappy under myself to save the sheets. In fact I have never expressed before - even with my DS who I b/f until he was almost 2.

Doing the deed - Funny that this topic came up. Waited about 8 weeks after having DS (much to DH's disgust) but was still a bit sore from episiotomy and no interest at all. However this time I tore instead of being cut and to be honest everything healed up a whole lot better. Plus I guess I knew what I was in for this time around and it wasn't such a shocking, life changing event. Anyway, my hubby and I 'did the deed' about 3 weeks after Kelsey was born but let me tell you I am making him work for it (back rubs, foot massages, sleep ins, cups of tea and cooking dinner.) DH was so sweet the other night. He opened a bottle of wine and put together a nice cheese platter and we sat by the pool and chatted after the kids had gone to bed. He even lit candles and put them around the pool to be romantic. He's a keeper that one!!!:thumbsup:

Anyway, hope you all have a lovely weekend. I live in north qld and am keeping an eye on the cyclone at the moment. Take care. Flicka xx

[Hels*Bels]

Victoria - I just went to a sleep and settling class this morning. They basically said all of the things that Tabby already posted. One of the things that I didn't know was that we should put them into bed before they are fast asleep, eg when they are still dropping off. Also, give your bub a few minutes of crying time first before going back in to start soothing/use a dummy etc. Keep trying this in and out for a while then if it's not working, finally get bubs up and try rocking/swaddling/cuddling again. I was pretty much doing all of this already but there was a lady in the group who's bub will only sleep in her arms. The teacher suggested she put bubs inside a cot insert so he feels more secure in the big cot. Not sure if you are using a cot or basinette? but this could be something to try??
Otherwise, does your local council offer any classes for new mums? I would really recommend the one I went to this morning.

[Flicka]

Victoria - I really feel for you as it can be a bit hard to get anything done (like have a shower). Are you b/feeding? If you are maybe lay down on the bed to feed her and if/when she nods off you can just roll away and leave her there to nap. I do it all the time and even if Kelsey doesn't fall asleep at least I have had a lay down and relax for a little while...???

[freddie]

Victoria - we had someone in to help with the same problem. Its sort of worked and we put Hamish to bed in his bassinette on the pram so its easy to rock. We have a routine to follow, swaddle him, and accompany the rocking with loud shushing. Its taken a while but he's nearly putting himself to sleep now (like 3 weeks). I'd also recommend a class or getting someone in to advise.
Tabby - my understanding is that Aboriginal/ TS Islander kids have an extra needle but I can't remember what for. We had two - one in each thigh.

Well we also had a record sleep last night from 7.45pm to 4.15am! I didn't even wake until 3.30 with sore and leaky (.) (.) which is unheard of for me, but then I've never had a 9+ hour stretch between feeds before. I had to go and check Hamish was still breathing then napped a bit more before he woke up. Its funny cos I've been feeling really extra tired the last few days and thought to myself last night that I could really do with someone to give me a break for a few hours to have a sleep! Thank you Hamish!!!

We went to buy some warmer clothes for Hamish this morning as the weather has been so up and down and we've only really got summer gear. Usually I find it hard to get things I like but I could have bought so much in Myer it was hard to restrain myself! Its so hard to know how long he'll be in 000 then 00 in relation to the seasons. Knowing me I'll go to get stuff when I need it in winter and there'll be nothing left.

:smiliedance: long weekend here in WA. Have a happy one local ladies and happy normal one to everyone else.
kx

[Cordelia]

Victoria I'm having the same problemn. She's gone from being a really really really sleepy baby to not sleeping at all.. and I don't know how to get her to sleep because I've never had this problem before. However!! She's currently in the deepest sleep in the Baby Bjorn - it doesn't seem to matter how much I throw her round or noise I make... so I think I'm onto something (Although i woudl really love to have a nap at the same time).

I did read that babies take 20 minutes to get into their deep sleep so I nursed her for 25 minutes last night and she stayed asleep when I put her down and I KNOW that that's really bad - but these experts shoudl try and have literally NO SLEEP for nights on end.

Caitlin only had 2 needles as well!! I wonder what the 3rd is for.. maybe one of our needles incorporated the 3rd??

I'm wondering what would happen if I tried to get Caitlin to go from the baby bjorn to the bassinet... last time i tried to get out we got so tangled up together... worth a shot!! She's soooo asleep.

[Hels*Bels]

Just letting you know that as breast feeding didn't work out for me I am now selling my 2 Avent breast pumps (both electric and manual). They are practically new.
For more details, please click the link below;
http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?p=1176564#post1176564

[SammyG]

Hels, Bugger, just bought mine a week or so ago! I have just started reading a book and the 1st character is Hell Bells.

Gotta go, Michael's up again! He's had hardly a wink since his 5pm feed so hopefully we can both crash soon!

[Lukeandmattsmum]

Well i don't think i will talk anymore about how Matthew has been sleeping, every time i do it all goes out the window. He had an absolute shocker last night all he wanted was to be cuddled and it was so hot that we were bothsweating. :fingerscrossed: we have a better one tonight. It can get so frustrating when you know that they have eaten and are clean and will fall asleep in your arms and as soon as you put them down whammo those little eyes pop open. But then in the morning they look at you with those beautiful eyes and smile and you forget about the last eight or nine hours.

Matthew went for his first swim today i think he really enjoyed it as it has been so hot and i think it has felt it badly. Also he has been feeding more as he has probably felt dehydrated.

Anyway hope everyone has a good night sleep. I pray i do.:fingerscrossed:

[Tabby]

lukeandmattsmum: Hope you got a better sleep.

freddie: yay for the long sleep! hope they keep happening for yous.

Had a really odd day with Katie yesterday, from the 4am feed onwards she brang up soooo much milk. every feed was the same,and her naps were affected as she would wake to bring up milk, so as a bit cranky all day. I was sure I was in for a bad night but if anything she was even better. She bumped it up by another hr! 8-5 now. and shes back in bed for more. she didnt bring up as much this morning so hope whatever it was is gone. well am heading back for more sleep too.
Hope everyone has a great weekend.

[victoria75]

Nicole: What ever works I say. I am going to try putting her down then after the 20 mns. I figure holding her for 20 mins is better then 2 hours. O'll let you know how i go. Good Luck to you.

[victoria75]

Thanks everyone for the advice. I am just struggling to get it all together at the moment. Will let you all know how the techniques go.

Hels - she is in a bassinet so I dont think I can add an insert into that. She does love the closeness though. Sometimes a pillowunder her face woks but then i just sit and watch her incase she moves and then gets suffocated sonot the best solution.

[SammyG]

Yeh! :smiliedance: Michael fed at 8:30pm and didn't wake properly for a feed till 4am, then up again at 8am. Usually an 8am feed clashes with DS1 waking but today is Sunday so DH was here to help.

Hope the rest of the dayis as good!

[Charis]

Victoria - the rolled up wrap behind her, if shes on her side is another one..I think you're meant to put one on the other side too, in case they roll over. but these ones always hit the little wakey-up arms here! Our Child Hlth Nurse showed up this one.

I swear by my little air-blowing-heater..when the startle effect comes when just put down it all settles into warm bliss for Hunter with a minute of heater held by me over bassinette. Yes this could have dire consequences when hes older and will require a harem to fan him with palm fronds, but works suprisingly well now! Unsure about what to do when its hot..like will be here today.

beautiful waking up smiles +coos this morning, wow, so hard to remember that they didn't once used to smile.. Dunno if it was cos it was me, it was morning or because I was topless!:laughing:

Happy days. Nice regular night and waking at the normal time as all week. 7wks+a routine:yelclap:

[Tabby]

:laughing::laughing::laughing:. Thanks Charis for the morning laugh, with both the harem for H and the topless comment too.

Katies still asleep, so its the first time in ages Ive had a chance for coffee first.

Hope everyone slept well
xxx
V

[T Bear]

Hi everyone,

I thought I'd just pop in to let you all know I'm still here. I haven't managed to log in for a few weeks. It's amazing how much time 1 tiny person takes up! I can't believe he's nearly a month old already!

Oh-oh, Wilfred's awake...

ok, re-settled (sort of) but seems to have ended up in mummies arms, eyes keep opening as soon as the dummy comes out or the rocking stops - little rat-bag.

It's been good reading through the posts and realising that we are all having similar issues with settling etc. Our biggest struggle here seems to be with wind and poo (or lack of it). He only poos about every 36 hours and spends a lot of time working up to it and getting quite distressed with wind and pains in his tummy.

Other than that he's feeding well and gaining HEAPS of weight (330g in 5 days). My (*)(*) are still very sore and still quite damaged - healing is just so slow because the damage gets re-aggrivated every time he feeds. I've been mostly expressing from the right side (by far the worst damaged) for a few days in an attempt to give it enough time to heal - it seems to be slowly improving but still soooo painful!

Hmmm... it has just taken over an hour to type this 1 handed between rocking and jiggling to keep my naughty munchkin asleep.

I will really try to keep in touch much more!

[Karrina]

It has been stinking hot here in Central Australia, make matters worse the humidity is once again on the increase and therefore the air-con (evaporative) doesn't work.

Well last night we were all sweaty and sticking to the leather lounge so I decided to have a shower, Billy came in too. He loved it, especially the closeness to mum. It also helped settle him down (plus I felt so much better)!

Well Billy is off on his first plane flight on Thursday, we are off to Adelaide. Not looking forward to the amount of luggage I will need to take, car seat, pram and bags for clothes and nappies :eek: Make matters worse we also need to catch a cab to my girlfriends. Anyhow in case I don't get back on for a while...good vibes to you all!:smiliedance:

[Jenko]

Golly Gosh, this thread moves soo fast.

We are doing pretty well. I think i have a blocked milk duct which is very painful, i can't pick Koby up and put him over my shoulder as its too painful. I've tried massaging, hot face wash, expressing and panadol and i think i may have massaged it a bit too hard as it's very tender. Feels bruised almost.

I have found my saviour. My fisher price swing. Koby was a bit small at first but now he is bigger he fits in it better and loves being rocked in it. He can sleep for hours in it.

Speaking of being big, i'm keen to get him weighed again, i reckon he must be at least 5kgs and he's not even 5 weeks (will be on tues) He's a very tall baby and now starting to really fill out. I must say he does feed often enough so not surprising really. How much are other bubs weighing now?

Sorry no personals, had visitors the last few days so no time to read posts, will try and go back now and catch up.

[Tabby]

I think ive worked out why Katie was bringing up so much milk after feeds, she went up to 180mils the day before, ive cut back to 120mils again, she hasn't looked for more as yet, I had googled and found that if they have too much they can spit it back up..will just do 120 as needed and another 60 if she screams for more for now. It must have been just that one or two feeds that she wanted more and the feeds after it was too much just yet.
Hels wasnt it you having the same problem?
will let you know how today goes, so far so good shes not brung up any

xx
V

[bossoflatch]

just a thought - what are babies up to at 6 weeks when they are waking - i don't know if mine is suffering bad reflux or it is normal - don't get me wrong - sometimes she is happy to play under the play gym by herself and let mummie clean - but other times she won't let you put her down - that is what makes me think that it is the reflux as soon as i have her in my arms she is settled ( well a little wingy !!! ) but if i go to put her back down she screams -- she is too young to have anxiety yet isn't she ?? but i do use the mylanta and she is still upset - so i don't know if that was the problem or if the mylanta just didn't settle her...

[Hels*Bels]

Tabby - Thanks for posting that about giving the extra amount of formula. Funnily enough I had just increased Reece's bottles from 120mls to 150mls and he has been very sickie today aswell. My mum reckons it could also be because we visited friends out in the country and we were in the car for an hour each way and there's alot of bumpy roads along the way.
The formula I am using goes up in 30ml lots and this is too much in one go. So tonight I mixed up 2 big bottles and then divided it into 140mls lots, therefore saving a couple of scoops and increasing the amount more slowly. So I'll see if this is any better.

Leisa - When you said bubs has reflux, do you mean actually being sick or are you referring to colic? I was a bit confused by what you said. My bub wants alot more attention now and lots of mummy cuddles. So I swaddle him and hold him close at these times. Other times he is happy to play by himself, so I think the behaviour you described is normal.

Jennasmum - Ouchie about the blocked milk duct, I hope it clears soon.
Reece is also 5 weeks old and weighs just over 4 kgs now, but he was only a small baby at birth.
We have the fisher price swing too but I think he needs to be a bit bigger to enjoy it properly.

Victoria - Try putting a rolled up towel/cloth nappy on either side of bubs in the basinette, starting under the armpits. This offers both a feeling of security and stops bubs from rolling over.

Reece seems to be settling down, despite the spewing today. He is going longer between feeds and has cut one out of the day. I wish he would cut out the 3am one though :rolleyes: He still has a couple of times a day where he screams for no apparent reason but I am getting better at over coming this and settling him quicker. However, he is quite fiesty at times and is going to be a very head strong child. My current avatar pic shows his personality at times lol. If he doesn't want something he will slap my hand away.
We are not having much luck with the Baby Bjorn yet, but maybe we need to wait until he is a bit bigger before using it.

[SammyG]

jennasmum, Michael weighed 4.5kg on the dot of 4weeks. So far he is putting on a solid 200g or more each week. I'm trying not to get too obsessed with it now, will skip the clinic this week. As long as he is filling his nappies (they still don't feel heavy compared to Ben's which has me confused) and sleeps well I guess he is doing alright.

As to doing the deed, I had a look with the mirror at down there and was horrified :eek: I will have my 6 week check next week and get Dr to tell me if it's normal. Surprisingly it feels much better than last time though. Absolutely no sex drive though, I fantasize about blissful uninterupted SLEEP :sleeping: Poor DH! Told Dh today we have to think about contraception, he laughed and said "why bother?" So it will be nice clean condoms for us until I finish BF, then I will think about the pill again.

I can't offer anything for you poor mums suffering with little ones screaming or throwing up. I will never complain about taking almost 1.5hrs to feed & settle Michael during the night after hearing what some of you are going through! :hugs: to you all!

[finalcountdown!]

hey everyone,

Karinna - just wondering where bouts in the NT you live?

lukeandmattsmum - Im in central qld, small mining town.

cheeki28 - I think you are doing an amazing job, i could not begin to imagine having to settle two bubs, i struggle with one!

jennasmum - ouch..hope your feeling bit better! About the fisher price swing, I have one of these that i used also with my DD...just a warning, i found it my godsend with DD but...after a while she became sooo accustomed and used to it, thats the ONLY way she would sleep!! When i went away on a holiday i had to dismantle it and pack it in my suitcase with me!! So far my DS is 8 weeks but I havent put him in it as of yet....trying to hold off a bit till im pulling my hair out anyway !! haha...but sometimes you just have to go with whatever keeps you sane at the time !!

T bear - I sympathise with the wind and poo problems, my little man has been going through the same thing!! He has finally started to sort himself out though, I really believe the chiropractor helped. He is now having regular bowel movements but still has a hard time the poor little thing with his wind.

To anyone out there thinking of investing in a sling...they are well worth it!! I bought the Baba sling. It was great whilst i was still breastfeeding as you could do so very discretly, and bubs just love being in them nuzzled up to your body. Charis - After your advice on the baby bjorn i was thinking of buying one, but went and looked at the instructions that came with my sling and found how to put him in a position similar to the bbjorn but with his legs bunched up. It works a treat, he can look around, be close to me, im hands free, and ive found this position really helps with his wind!!
Then, when i had to iron my daughters uniform tonight i was worried about the danger of having him in front of me, but it was as simply as sliding the sling around and he sat comfortably on my back, and i could then iron easily!!!!!!

I must admit as far as doing "the deed" this time round I felt great and was fine when bubs was 12 days old !! :smiliedance: I was surprised as with my DD it was at least 9 weeks!! And i had stitches both times...:cool:

Just out of interest is anyone else still doing the dream feeds with their bubs?

Jett has not had his inconsolbale screaming since the visit to the chiropractor a few days ago !! :fingerscrossed: Still feeding every three hours though!!

Had my first girls night out last night, I felt really anxious and lost once i got to the pub!! We all had a couple of drinks which was nice. DH stayed home with bub. I got home at 1am and he was up feeding bubs, i couldnt help myself, I d missed DS soo much I send DH off to bed and finished the feed. Then got up with bub again at 4am and 6am. Needless to say, today im sooo :sleeping: Hope this little man sleeps for a while tonight!!

[Flicka]

Hi everyone. Well, we had a bit of an unsettled day today. Kelsey took ages to go down for her naps (and to bed tonight) that in the end I just put her in the bassinette and have been listening to her wriggle around from the computer. Also heard some loud farts so maybe that was the problem!!!! Hope she is asleep. I am finding the evenings the hardest when Dh is at work. Have to feed the animals (horses, dogs, cat) and look after the kids. DS is whiny and clingy in the evening and Kelsey doesn't want to be put down either. Oh well, hope I am burning lots of fat running around after the kids!!
Question: Those mums with other kids (toddlers) are you finding it hard to get your older child to leave the baby alone? My DS loves Kelsey and wants to kiss and cuddle her ALL of the time but he doesn't know how to be gentle. It makes it hard because I can't leave her on the floor on a rug while I get things done because DS wants to be all over her. What are you all doing to keep your hands free and keep the older toddler/child away?

Also, Charis, was it you that was talking about going for a run? I have always been a keen walker but would love to start running. Only problem is with these b/feeding (.)(.)'s I am worried I might knock myself out:laughing: . Are you wearing a sports bra? I was thinking I might just wear a nursing bra with a crop top and a snug singlet over the top to stop all of that bouncing!! Also, laughed at what you said about naked boobs. When DS was a baby and I would take him in the shower, he was always trying to latch on for a drink just because they were there!!! Typical! He's a boob man like his father!
Cheers
Flicka xx

[Flicka]

OMG finalcountdown!! 12 days must be some kind of record. Hope you are like me and trading favours with your DH :laughing: .

Also, in answer to your question I am still dreamfeeding when I need to if my breasts are full. However, I have to say I used the dream feed for my son when he was about 6 months old to help him try and sleep thru the night. Also, I would only do it if bubs went down early (like 7-8pm) them I would dreamfeed before I went to sleep.

[Lukeandmattsmum]

Hi ladies

Well i hope i don't jinx myself again by saying we had a fairly good night lastnight.

In regards to settling Matt to sleep i used to be able to just put him down and he would settle himself, but since he went to hospital he now gets cuddled off to sleep. Actually thats when his whole routine went out of wack:thumbsdown: . Tonight is the first time where i just nursed him for a few minutes and put him down as he drifted off to sleep and he settled himself in his bassinet.:yelclap: hopefully we can continue this and eventually just be able to put him down and he settle himself.

FLICKA i have a two year old son and he just loves his little brother, sometimes too much though. I find if i want to do something i usually put a dvd on for DS1 (hi5, thomas, wiggles, etc) and then put Matt somehere close to me so i can get the job done. Usually i can get about half an hour. In saying this it doesnt always work out, Matt will start crying then Luke tries to fix him. Ahh it can be difficult,

Anyway this was meant to be a quick one tonight.

Lots of sleeping dust to everyone

[bossoflatch]

Tabby - Thanks for posting that about giving the extra amount of formula. Funnily enough I had just increased Reece's bottles from 120mls to 150mls and he has been very sickie today aswell. My mum reckons it could also be because we visited friends out in the country and we were in the car for an hour each way and there's alot of bumpy roads along the way.
The formula I am using goes up in 30ml lots and this is too much in one go. So tonight I mixed up 2 big bottles and then divided it into 140mls lots, therefore saving a couple of scoops and increasing the amount more slowly. So I'll see if this is any better.

Leisa - When you said bubs has reflux, do you mean actually being sick or are you referring to colic? I was a bit confused by what you said. My bub wants alot more attention now and lots of mummy cuddles. So I swaddle him and hold him close at these times. Other times he is happy to play by himself, so I think the behaviour you described is normal.

Jennasmum - Ouchie about the blocked milk duct, I hope it clears soon.
Reece is also 5 weeks old and weighs just over 4 kgs now, but he was only a small baby at birth.
We have the fisher price swing too but I think he needs to be a bit bigger to enjoy it properly.

Victoria - Try putting a rolled up towel/cloth nappy on either side of bubs in the basinette, starting under the armpits. This offers both a feeling of security and stops bubs from rolling over.

Reece seems to be settling down, despite the spewing today. He is going longer between feeds and has cut one out of the day. I wish he would cut out the 3am one though :rolleyes: He still has a couple of times a day where he screams for no apparent reason but I am getting better at over coming this and settling him quicker. However, he is quite fiesty at times and is going to be a very head strong child. My current avatar pic shows his personality at times lol. If he doesn't want something he will slap my hand away.
We are not having much luck with the Baby Bjorn yet, but maybe we need to wait until he is a bit bigger before using it.
Leisa - When you said bubs has reflux, do you mean actually being sick or are you referring to colic? I was a bit confused by what you said. My bub wants alot more attention now and lots of mummy cuddles. So I swaddle him and hold him close at these times. Other times he is happy to play by himself, so I think the behaviour you described is normal

hels*bels- sorry i should explain - bubs was diagnosed with silent reflux- i didn't even know about it at first until he told us - at first she wasn't chucky as such - but she would have curdled milk come back up and smell really acidic after feeds....

I guess what i was trying to say was that because she isn't the classical chucky baby associated with reflux - we don't know whether that is the problem with her all the time or whether it is something else - it is really hard to explain myself ...

the reflux association have a great site that i was reading last night on silent reflux and all the thing that they mention tayla does but i hadn't infact associated them with reflux, now i have a better understanding of the condition and i am trying to keep on top of it - i quess what i was trying to ask is - is everyones baby quite sooky???? i don't really mean colicy (the once a day inconsolable crying perdiods ) more like the don't want to be put down/ seems to cry just for the sake of crying .... (i know that they are babies and love mummy time so not intended to sound mean to my baby!!!)
i know of some babies that hardly cry and was just wondering if i need to get tayla reviewed for her reflux medication or if it was normal to be quite unsettled. for example - on the site it said that silent reflux babies tend to sleep really well once they go down for the night - she sleeps 8 hours once down - but it does take her about 1- 2 hours to settle as i feed her - bath her and she is still seems in pain and screws her face up - i end up having to swaddle her on my chest upright until she gets to sleep .... it all goes with what the site was saying - i just wonder whether there is another way of getting her to sleep ??? as it is quite tiresome everysleep doing the same thing ...

[Jenko]

Well i think i may have cleared my blocked milk duct. With lots of massaging, hot face wash and expressing, thank goodness as it was awful!

finalcountdown - thanks for the tip re the swing. I have thought about that, and still try and let him sleep in his bassinette too. It's just soo easy to pop him in the swing, if he wakes he looks around and just dozes off again. I can see myself packing it up in the suitcase too! :eek:

As for the doing the deed....not on your life! Any spare moment i get is for sleeping. Still getting up 1 to 3 times a night with DS. I don't feel completely healed down there either, it still feels quite tender. I remember with DD it took a few months for me to feel back to normal in that department.

Flicka - I must say my 2 yr old DD is very good with Koby. I can leave him on the floor with her and she just kisses and cuddles and talks to him. Sometimes she grabs him a little tight and her long hair tickles and annoys him but she has been good. She just happens to turn up the volume when i'm putting him to sleep, the more i tell her to be quiet, the louder she gets :rolleyes:

leisa - Koby seems to have his unsettled time at about 6pm every night. Just wants to be held and/or fed. He doesn't cry that much. He has his moments but can be quite easily settled. My DD on the other hand was a very unsettled baby. She used to cry heaps!! I think they are just all so different.

BenandMichaelsmum - I'm not too concerned about Koby's weight either just like to know how big he is. DD was the opposite and put weight on really slowly.
I'm the same with Koby 1 1\2 to 2 hours is the longest i have been up with him in the night to feed and settle. Sometimes we can do it in 30-40mins. :fingerscrossed: it stays that way.

Hels - I've used the baby bjorn and my hug-a-bub a few times but it's quite hot up here atm and his face is just so squashed up against my chest i find it uncomfortable. DD was born in the middle of winter and i used the baby bjorn heaps it was nice and warm and snuggly. Maybe when the weather cools down a bit it will be better.

[Tabby]

Hels: Im not having any luck solving why Katie has decided bring up so much after feeds. The reducing back to 120 hasnt helped. Still the same... even keeping her upright for 30 mins after feeds ( as suggested in a google search ) doesn't help
How did you go? Hope you had better luck than me.

edited to say this morning shes wanting the 180 again so have been giving her it. Im not concerned as shes happy and content and goes down easy still. Just a puzzle as to why all of a sudden this change and the amount shes bringing up is most unusual for her

[bossoflatch]

good morning ladies - just took bubs to the doctors and he seems to think the reason she doesn't settle after feeds is her reflux so he put her on some different meds - but i have been trying to hunt it down as not all the chemists stock it - what is your bubs on if they have reflux - at the moment he has prescribed rani syrup but i can't seem to find a chemist that has it . For those with reflux babies what has your doctor presribed??/

sorry - no time as usual for personals will catch up later ...
leisa

[jacstar31]

well I think I spoke to soon about Geoffrey sleeping through the night!! the last 3 nights he has woken up about 2-2.30am and then fed and slept thru till 7 or 8am, so I guess I can't complain, I think he is going through another growth spurt as he is nearly 12 weeks old now!

[tired*mummy]

Hi everyone,
Well i have a new neice, born yesterday morning. Weighing 9lb 10oz and they have called her Faith Amy. She is a very chubby bubby and already fitting into 000 which are also a bit tight.

Sierra has been great, she has been really settled the last few days/nights. Full of smiles too.
DD2 has a bad cold and looks like she will probably end up in hospital again... (i think i mentioned very early on last year that she has Chronic Lung Disease because she was so premmie) So she really isnt well and has been struggling with her breathing for a couple of days but the dr gave me ventalin for her which isnt helping, never does. And shes on antibiotics but they dont seem to be helping either. So looks like another hospital stay as she is just getting worse. She's also very tired because of working hard with her breathing so is sleeping most of the time.
DH is talking to his boss today to see if he can take this week off so he can help out at home and with staying at the hospital if she ends up staying there. He just wants his boss to be prepared for it.
Sierra also has a bit of a cold, runny nose and gets annoyed when it gets blocked, especially when feeding. So i've used some baby balsam just under her nose, just a tiny bit and its helped with clearing her nose for a while just so she can feed and fall asleep. It has lavendar and rosemary in it too so it settles them abit.

Sorry for no personals - there was too much for me to catch up on and i've forgotten what what was and who said what. Still have pregnancy brain most days :laughing:
:wave:

[finalcountdown!]

Flicka - Yes i have been getting plenty of massages !!! Dunno about the record, i had a friend who only waited 5 days!! I must admit it wasnt the most enjoyable, i was a bit on edge and nervous that it may hurt!! But luckily it didnt.
THe reason i ask about the dream feeding is i wonder if this is bad as far as contributing to wind probs? as when ive done it i do as the book says and dont even pick him up to burp him.

leisa - my bubs has silent reflux, and doctor has put him on zantac, 1.5ml twice a day, it seems to have done the trick. I think you just need to try a few different things and see what works for your bub. As what works for one doesnt seem to work for another! Good luck

As for those with toddlers, my DD is 5 and can still be a bit too full on and in bubs face!! Its hard, but i try and include her in things and give her, "her" cuddle time. But i think the only answer no matter what the age is...patience!! LOL...

Jett is 8 weeks now and is still feeding ever 3 hours....he is such a little piggy!! Is anyone elses bubs feeding this often??

[freddie]

hi everyone
interesting to hear about bubs with reflux. Our CHN thought Hamish might have minor reflux which would explain why he always prefers to be upright rather than laying back in my arms. I just thought he wanted to look around at everything...which is does as well. Last night we had a family do and he wouldn't go to bed - stayed up staring around at everyone having a great time. It was great for me as he had a six hour sleep from 10pm and I managed to go to bed at the same time for a change.
finalcountdown Hamish often feeds 2, 2.5 or 3 hourly still except when he manages to sleep longer than 2 hours at a stretch. He's the same age. CHN said it was fine - he's been growing heaps and the weather is hot. He only takes 5 - 10 mins on each side though the little guzzler!
Not looking forward to another Perth heatwave this week...sigh....
kx
ps talking about swimming with bubs, is anyone worried about the effect of the chlorine? I'd love to take Hamish to the pool but they use heaps of chlorine and I was told the baby pool is even worse.

[2s'nuff]

Hi-ya

It's taken a while to catch up on everything. We've had a few hectic days here. TJ hasn't been sleeping well during the day. She feeds then will only settle for and hour or so, then wants more food. Seems like I've been on the go non-stop for the past few days. Luckily she has had a few better night sleeps 6-7 hours which at least means I can physically catch up overnight.

:hugs: to all those mummies having reflux problems. We used Losec for DD1 when she was young (if that helps anyone?).

Tabby...sometimes a warm bottle can make bub :barf: more than with a cooler bottle. I just take the cold edge off TJ's bottles. Also makes it easier when we go out as I don't have to warm up her bottles.
Finalcountdown....TJ has been having more regular feeds (2.5-3 hours) during the day too. Can't seem to work out why. Some feeds she'll have the full 160ml, then the next only 70ml.

As for big sister/brother helpers, I don't think there's any magic trick to keep them away. DD1 often overcrowds TJ, no matter what I say.

And to those mummies who haven't done the deed yet, don't worry. With DD1 it took me months to actually feel up to doing it. Lack of sleep, a refluxy bub and the thought of falling pg again were enough to keep my legs crossed. This time with a more settled bub has been easier, and DH has a smile on his face again. Not that it was overly enjoyable:rolleyes: , but at least it's done. (sounds like I'm doing the washing:laughing: ).

Hope everyone has a good day, had better go and make some lunch.

Lisa

[Tabby]

Am beginning to think mild reflux is now what Katie has. After much searching and posts elsewhere for advice, it seems the reason. also can come at any time in the first few months.
she has a couple of symptoms,
spilling of milk but no distress
catnaps during the day ( these coincided with the spilling over beginning ) but some continue to sleep well at nights which she does. As long as sleeping well nights and gaining weight it seems the only problem is the extra washing lol.
It had me stumped as I didn't realize could get it "later".
This last feed I kept her upright longer and the spill has been less, tho she woke after 10 min nap to give a very icky sounding burp so tried her with infants friend to see if that helps her nap better.
may call the clinic nurse tomorow and see

[Tabby]

thanx for the advice mouse, will do that :D

Katie also feeds more often lately, every 3 hrly daytime now. the odd 4 but usually 3. Long as she keeps the night as it is im happy same as you :D

[Flicka]

Thanks for sharing about your toddlers ladies. DS is driving me nuts today wanting to hold kelsey and cuddle her. He just finds it hard to be gentle because he is so excited and I think little kids lack the fine motor skills to touch gently!!! I have had a bit of a low day today. Kelsey hasn't slept since 9.30am and DS has been a complete pain and won't do anything I say. Then everytime I have sat down to feed he says he needs to go to the toilet. All I have done is grumble at him. I was glad to send him off for a nap so that I can concentrate on getting grizzly Kelsey to sleep. Having a case of the "mother guilts" though. DS came out of his room before and said "cuddle please mum" and I just grumbled at him to go for his nap. Poor thing!!!

Finaltcountdown - About the dreamfeed - I have never bothered burping either of my two kids after one. In fact I never burp if they fall asleep on the breast. However, neither of mine have the silent reflux you have been talking about. Also Kelsey is feeding about every 1.5-2 hrs when awake but she might then have a 3-4 hour nap. I do the feed-play-feed-sleep routine and offer the breast again before I put her down for a sleep.
Tiredmummy - So sorry to hear that your DD is sick. It must be so hard on you and I can relate to those sleepless nights spent in hospital with a sick child. Hope DH can get some time off to help if needed.:hugs:

Take care ladies. I'm off to have a snooze now that Kelsey has finally fallen asleep.

[mim1]

leisa ... rani is the same as zantac. My paediatrician mentioned that most babies are put on the syrup, so it must be available - the chemist should be able to order it in if they don't have it in stock. Josh is on zantac, but my paed gets me to put an effervescent tablet in water, then use some every 8hours and mix it with breast milk in a bottle. It's quite tedious, but it works. Well, it did work and then he's been getting a lot worse in recent days. I saw the paediatrician today and Josh is now weighing 5.440kg (!!), so instead of 6ml 3 times a day, he's now going to get 8ml 3 times a day.

So, since dh went back to work last Thursday Joshua's reflux has been playing up. He's been irritable a lot, but having some long stretches of sleep at times, so that's good. Having said that I was up from 4am til 8am this morning with a grizzly baby ... good thing I went to bed at 9pm (was up for an hour at 11pm feed and 1/2 hour at 2:30am feed).

Josh has just fallen asleep! Yeah! He did sleep from 8 - 10:15am this morning, but since then has had the grizzles again unless completely upright. So, I got the baby bjorn out and used it for the first time - he fell asleep! He slept for 1/2 hour then woke up for a feed. He's since had the feed, including the increase dose of zantac and he's just drifting off again now - over an hour later. He's quite heavy in it, but at least I can do stuff with both of my hands including eating!

I don't know who asked about expressing overnight, but basically I only express if i'm in pain. Sometimes that's 3 hours after a feed if it's been a small feed, and then the other night I went for 6 hours without expressing. I did wake up after 4 hours and thought about expressing, but I was only uncomfortable rather than in pain ... so I let myself go back to sleep and I was surprised that I lasted another 2 hours til he woke up. I don't worry about leaking, just pain. Remember that expressing will just prolong the problem as milk is produced in response to sucking (inc expressing) ... so if you express every night between feeds then your milk supply will always be too much overnight. So, if you need to express only express a little bit til you feel more comfortable.

Should go and do some stuff while Josh is asleep - albeit in the baby bjorn on my chest.

[Ellembee]

Victoria: thought i would type out the Tresllian settling techniques for you:

"Try to remain consistent.
If not calming after 10 - 15 minutes of settling pick baby up to calm - reposition and repeat settling.

When you observe babies tired signs, prepare baby for bed eg:

* check nappy
* wrap
* position baby in bed facing away from you
* leave baby in bed to see if she will settle on her own
*most babies take a little while to settle
*if your baby is still crying after about 3-5 minutes the following options may help

OPTION A
* comfort baby by giving a gentle pat/rock/stroke
* offer dummy (if used) at any time during the settling [Nb lots of other books say giving dummies to get off to sleep are a no no as it creates sleep problems down the track]
* attempt to calm your baby then leave the room for another 3 -5 minutes
* you may need to repeat the above a few times before your baby settles

OPTION B
* Place one hand (with fingers spread) on your baby's shoulder
place your other hand on your baby's bottom
*comfort by gentle pressure/pat/rock/stroke
*gentle storking of the head can be beneficial
*continue this comfort and reassurance until your baby calms (not until your baby is asleep)
*talking quietly without eye contact can be ver reassuring for both you and your baby
offer dummy (if used) at any time during the settling [Nb lots of other books say giving dummies to get off to sleep are a no no as it creates sleep problems down the track]
* attempt to calm your baby then leave the room for another 3 -5 minutes
* you may need to repeat the above a few times before your baby settles.

When using option A or B - if after 20-30 mins your baby is not settling - offer a cuddle/drink/top-up breast feed and repeat settling process."

What seems to work for my little one is if I rock her bassinet while going "shhhhh shhhhh". If the cries escalate, I put my hand on her or pat her tummy. If the cries escalate to hysterics, I pick her up. Whenever she is quiet, I stop all that and only start again when the grizzles start again - or sometimes I leave the room for 5 minutes (unpack the dishwasher or something to take my mind off the cries). At night - if I am still settling after an hour, I give her a top up feed. During the day - I get the hell out of the house - put her in the pram/car etc.

Doesn't always work, but more often than not it does. Good luck!

[Hels*Bels]

Tabby - I am giving Reece 140mls and he seems happy with this. The sicks have been alot less today too. I gave him some more mylanta yesterday and that seems to be the best thing so far. The doctor said it is ok to give him 1ml when needed. However, I have also been referred to Marina Infant mixture which is a herbal medicine for wind, reflux and colic so it pretty much covers all bases lol. I bought some today (from the chemist) so will let you know how it goes.
Here is their webpage if anyone is interested;
https://secure.iig.com.au/morzone/products.asp

Tired_mummy - Sorry to hear about your DD being sick.

Mouse - Thanks for the comments about the warm milk, I was wondering about that. LOL @ your comments about "the deed", kind of sums it up really :laughing:

Well it's been quite a day here. Last night I lost the plot at 3am, bubs was screaming, I was in tears and woke DH to say I couldn't cope and wasn't doing this anymore :crying:
To cut a long story short I have seen my doctor today and she has prescribed me some mild anti-depressants for PND. I have also had a big crying session with my parents and let it all out. This has helped heaps and some changes have been made for the better to help me thru it.
DH is also going to cut back his hours at work for a while and start later in the morning so he can help with the 3am feed.
It is so awful to cry all the time and not know why and to feel so much hate and resentment, it's so not like me at all :(
However, today has been alot better and I have started to enjoy my little boy a bit more.
I can't wait to get back to my old self again.
I hope you don't mind me mentioning all this but I am a very honest person so I don't want to pretend everything is all hunky dory when it's not.
Right now I feel a bit like someone at an AA meeting who has just stood up and said "my name is Helen and I am an alcoholic", although in this case it is depression and definitely not alcohol, but you know what I mean :)

[Ellembee]

hels: good on you for recognising you have pnd, admitting it and doing somethingt about it. hope things look up soon. xx

[Tabby]

Hels: :hugs: to you! You've done the hardest part, recognizing you needed help and getting it, now it just gets better.
Heres to lots more enjoyment for you with Reece from now on.

I fed Katie pretty much upright at the last feed and there was a big improvement, still spilling but no where near as much, also kept her upright for about a half hr after. Am not going to worry about medication or anything other than those above unless she stops gaining weight or starts getting distressed. Just have to accept all the extra washing lol
but yes please do let me know how goes with that med as its herbal and might give it a go if works for you.
oh heres some info I found earlier, katies always gets the hiccups constantly, lots of times it wakes her and it can also be a sign of reflux

[mamabearof3]

Finalcountdown try some stuff on ebay. Just do a 00 search and see what is there. If I didn’t have my nephew to pass clothes on to then I’d be selling my stuff on ebay.
Also I’d recommend a hug a bub over the baby bjorn. I had a baby bjorn last time and the hug a bub is so much more comfortable. It carries the weight over the whole shoulder instead of just on the straps and has a good lower back support just from the way it is tied. The other one I have is the ergo and although pricier it is more adaptable because you can wear baby on your back when they have good head control.

Leisa hope tayla is feeling better soon

Cate I have two party plan businesses so I’ve started back with them in a small capacity already. I can easily take Ariane to work with me this way

Kylie hats off to you twins would surely do my head in.

Not doing the deed here yet either

Victoria what we do for day sleeps is make sure Ariane is not overtired, so she is only ever up for about an hour maybe an extra 15 minutes, but as soon as her movements get a little jerky and before she starts to cry is the small window. I wrap her quite tightly with her arms down now but in the early days her arms were wrapped next to her mouth. I then rock in the rocking chair for a minute or two or sway dance for a couple of minutes and then lay her down and pat her. Most of the time Ariane sleeps in a baby hammock during the day so I simply bounce that a little until she falls asleep. If we are not at home then I just sway and then place her in the pram and push back and forth until she falls asleep and sometimes have to pat her too. I’d highly recommend a baby hammock if it gets difficult for you.

I haven’t begun expressing yet at all except for clearing mastitis

Cordelia I think holding a baby for that long is good to break the overtired cycle

Hels glad you are going to get some help for the PND now too

[Karrina]

Finalcountdown - I live in Alice Springs NT. My baby is 8 weeks old and feeds every 2 - 3 hours during the day, usually can go 4 hours during the night, so he is a little piggy

Hels - so sorry you are feeling down, it is such a life changing experience and everyone handles things differently. Just as well your parents are with you and able to offer support, also that you feel safe to talk to them about things. Fantastic that DH is offering to help, parenting just isn't as easy as everyone makes out. I remember when DD was born, I never had that instant 'overwhelming' love feeling for her, it took me a few months to 'fall in love with her' and I too resented her when I had no sleep and working fulltime. I spoke to a lot of people saying 'what a load of #$@# having that instant bond', I felt that I had been cheated as all I ever heard was how wonderful it is to have a baby....I wondered why there was such a 'myth' . It does take some people time to truelly bond with a baby that completely turns your whole life around! I am pleased to say that this time with DS it was different, I did feel that instant bond and love but I think it was because I knew what I was in for and felt comfortable with parenting. I have spoken to a lot of other 'first time' mums who struggle with their feelings of resentment and guilt, but it seems very common and very normal to feel like this, it's just 'taboo' Anyhow enough rambling :hugs: :kiss: to you darl and in a few weeks I am sure the brighter side of life will reveal itself again.:yes:

I am pleased that I am not pregnant as the hormones messed with my head. At the time I didn't realise it but I really feel like my old self again.

No deed doing here either!!!:laughing:

[aries_moon]

Hi all, hope everyone had a great long weekend! Ours was good, attempted to take xavier to a wedding reception- BIG mistake!!! He was sleeping peacefully until it went dead quiet for the speeches, then WAAAHHHHHHHHH!! So embarrasing but LOL now, still getting my confidence up taking him out etc.

Just wanted to give a big:hugs: to you HELS. That's so good that you're getting the help you need and have expressed your feelings. I find myself feeling the same at times like I said before......this mummy business sure can get overwhelming!!!

Can't give much input to the reflux issues that so many seem to have.....but am now wondering if X may have a slight bit of it?? He does "spill" a bit after some feeds, and gets hiccups about once a day, hmmm, who knows..........

Also does anyone know if its ok for breastfed bub to go 8 hrs between feeds???? he did last nite and i was shocked but I guess he would've woke me if he was starving??hmmm will check with chn...........ok x screaming now .........see u perth girls friday hopefully
take care

[Charis]

oops the feeds are now not long enough to read and post!! :yes:

Sorry to hear abour yr DD Tired Mummy! Is it something that will go with her lungs getting older/stronger?

Hels BIG hugs hon :hugs: Good on you for 'standing up' aka AA. I was thinking about you today before logging on..thinking that you don't seem the same happy Hels who was posting when pregnant. Hope that isn't presumptious. The help, anti-Ds, time and when Reece smiles at you will all 'put Hels together again'. :) Great you asked for help hon. We re here, too, always.

Oh and we're abt 3hrs days and 4-6 at night.

nite nite xx

[sugar n spice]

Hels :hugs: to you but knowing you need help is the first big step. i have suffered pnd with all of mine.

Well i was matron of honour at my sisters wedding on saturday. It was beautiful and all of my three boys were so well behaved.

Ashton hasn't been having his normal big feeds but that said he doesnt seem to need them and the dr isn't concerened. The lactose free formula is helping and his stools are firming up. He just had a good feed at 9 so that should get him through till 7am.

well i better go :wave:

[SammyG]

Ellembee, thanks for taking the time to post those tips. I thought I was doing the right thing with settling but a little confirmation from someone else doesn't hurt. It's amazing how much you forget from the 1st time round!

Advice for others: Even though every bub is different try to keep a rough record of routines and things that helped you through (even amounts of stuff) You think this stuff is etched into your brain because you live & breathe it 24/7 but you discard all old info as a new routine establishes every month or so! I don't know what I'd do without all you ladies!

Hels, :hugs: Good on you for being up front & knowing yourself so well. I believe half the problem with PND is people not talking about it enough. Quite a few of my friends have been through it and I'm sure I wouldn't cope so well without the support of friends and family.

[victoria75]

Thanks so much for taking the time to do that Ellembee. I am seeing a ped today so I let you know how it all goes.

Hels - Take care of yoourself and :hugs: .

[Hels*Bels]

Thanks for all the hugs and kind words girls, it means alot to me.
I am feeling heaps better today, alot more in control and more relaxed. I know the tablets take a while to work but alot of it is mind over matter anyway.
We handled Reece's screaming fit really well last night. After we exhausted all usual avenues (swaddling, swaying, cuddling etc). I calmly wrapped him tight and put him into his basinette with his lullabys playing. Me, mum and DH took in turns to go in and soothe him every few minutes until he eventually settled for an hour. We were then able to sit at the kitchen table and enjoy a family meal together. I could eat the whole meal with no anxiety, it was great :thumbsup:
Today I have felt alot calmer too and earlier when I was changing Reece we sat on the floor and he was looking at a toy crocodile that we had bought from Aussie Zoo last year. So I told him the whole story about Steve Irwin and his zoo and how we had been there and bought his toys etc. He layed there good as gold and listened to me. It was a special moment between us and how things should be I think.
Sorry for the rambling :laughing:

Tabby - I don't think the Marina Drops are any different to Infacol so I will stick to the Mylanta when he needs it. My pantry looks like a shelf in the chemist, it is so full of medicines for wind lol.

Mouse - I have used the cooler milk for the last few feeds and have found a difference, he also seems to finish his bottles off too :thumbsup:

Charis - Don't worry, the old Hels will be back soon then you will regret making that comment :laughing:
(just kidding)

Sugar - Glad to hear the wedding went well.

Opps his majesty is awake now so I'd better go.

[Flicka]

Firstly, :hugs: to Hels. I agree with the other mums who have talked about feelings of resentment etc. Having a baby is such a life changing experience and nothing can prepare you for it. I guess you just have to take one day at a time and try and find some good in every day and in Reece and especially yourself. From what I have read on here you are doing a great job with him and are a great mum. Also, some time out occasionally is important for your sanity!!! Also agree that not everyone falls head over heels in love with their baby staright away. It is like any relationship that grows and strengthens over time as you get to know the new person in your life. Hope everything I have said is ok Hels but just want you to know you are not alone.

Aries moon - I think it is ok to leave bubs sleep for a long stretch overnight as long as you are comfortable and your instincts are right - I think bub will wake if hungry.

BenAndMichaelsMum - What fantastic advice you have given about writing things down. My Dh and I are often asking each other about things we did with our first baby that worked but most of the time we can't remember.

Us - Had a terrible evening last night with lots of crying (from me occasionally but mostly from Kelsey). She had such bad wind/tummy pain and wouldn't go to sleep. She wanted to feed but this just made it worse. In the end I microwaved a nappy and wrapped it around her middle just like a smart mummy on here suggested (can't remember who but thank you). In the end she finally fell asleep at 10pm and didn't get up until nearly 5.30am - HOORAY!! It was so good to get some rest after a terrible day - very good for my state of mind!! Her tummy pain must have been awful and I could feel her stomach/back gurgling while I was holding her. Has anyone else noticed this?

Anyway enough of my rambling. Take care all.
Flicka xx

[cate]

Things are happening so quickly at the moment...the thread is moving like wild fire.

Well we just returned from first vac - yes it was 3!!!! Poor little thing, she cried and cried and then cuddled and was fine once she was in the car. Came home had a feed (from the boob!!! which is unusual for her during the day) and then some panadol and off to sleep!

I've had some trouble settling Audrey during the day lately - our saviour has been the Fisher Price vibrating bouncer. I think its because it's snuggles up around her instead of just lying flat somewhere. Best present anyone bought us!

We are just about to move Audrey into the cot in her room out of the snuggle bed in our room at night. She is such a good night sleeper - wakes once between 1 - 3 feeds half asleep and goes straight back down so I'm really worried that moving her might break that routine. We have started putting her back to sleep in the snuggle bed in the cot after her early morning feed so she gets used to being in the other room.

Big hugs to all with bubbas who are being difficult. Audrey had her first real inconsolable crying attack the other afternoon and just would not stop for anything!!!!!! I felt so helpless that I don't know how people can manage with crying babies! Hels extra hugs for you!

Now what else have people asked about...

Private Health - we are top cover and have been a total of $300 out of pocket for the delivery, anaeth, hospit etc... but I worked out that for all more prenatal ob visits i was only $430 out of pocket as we hit the medicare safety net really early and started getting the 80% extra back!

Colic/Reflux/Wind etc... It's all so confusing - our paed says colic is that inconsolable crying in the afternoons generally seems to be associated with "wind pain". Audrey gets really bad farts!!!!!! I can hardly believe the noise she makes - its like an adult man!!!! but she doesn't get any pain with it so "touch wood" we are lucky at this stage!

Any other BRISBANE mums who would like to meet up; pm me for details.

[cate]

oh yeah and as for doing the deed!!!!!! No action yet at 8 weeks - just a little scared!!

[Tabby]

YAY finally centrelink are going to pay me!!!
3 weeks later mind you, the guy I sat with was quite annoyed at how our case was left and apologized many times. DP is still waiting on his being finalized but feel so much better knowing at least mines coming asap.
am SOOOO much happier today, payments and Katies reflux problem solved!

Cate: I too was worried that putting katie in cot in her own room was asking for the routine to break, but she has stuck to the same exactly. She really loves the cot as she can actually see things. good luck with the change and hope it goes as well for yous.

I was out shopping and had seen some of you mention AR type formulas, so I got a s26 AR as she was already on s26 gold and lo and behold ( pleaseeee dont jinx me by saying it ) she didnt bring up a drop!!!!! Am so hoping I have solved her reflux, the spilling was getting worse by the day im sure. Shes down now and usually I have to wipe her up once or twice but nothing!
Had just opened a s26 gold this morning but is so worth the wasted $20 if it works.

For those allready using AR does the change make for constipation seeing as its thicker and all?

must go, have been out all day and nothing done here, so need to while shes asleep.:fingerscrossed: her day sleeps are longer again now she doesnt wake up to spurt milk too.
will let yous know how it goes in the long run

xx
Vicki

[Hels*Bels]

Tabby - Glad to hear the AR seems to be working so far. What teats are you using with it? do you have to buy bigger one's as the formula is thicker?

[Tabby]

Am using my original avent ones, I just got a needle and sterilized it then put a few more holes in till the flow looked better. On the tin it says to use fast flow teat.
She didnt complain so must have got it right :D .
Shes still sound asleep, thats so unusual for her day naps.

[mim1]

tabby - glad to hear things are going better today! My niece went on thickened formula and it was an instant massive improvement in her reflux - much to the relief of my SIL who had run out of clean clothes cause bubs was constantly vomiting ...

hels - :hugs: :hugs: Have you taken Reece to the doctor about the reflux? When I have a run of bad days with Josh's reflux my mood drops considerably. But the good news is that when he's better I feel good - mostly cause I get more sleep! I hope you and Reece both feel better soon!

I moved Josh out of our room on Sunday. It works well. i got a block of 4 1/2 hours sleep last night which was great! I have the baby monitor on low sensitivity so it only transmits when he cries, rather than when he grizzles. It's much better that way, cause grizzles don't always lead to cries. His reflux is better on an increased dose of zantac, but it's still far from cured. It's hard to see bub in such distress. He woke himself up screaming before - just as I was about to start typing this (an hour ago).

[Tabby]

Forgot to say I also had an abundance of bottles and teats from the earlier weeks that were wayyy too fast for her but they are working perfect for the AR.

Mim: Totally understand the SIL with the washing!
I have a huge load of bibs but go through them all in a day, plus using nappys for wiping and on the bed/playgym/everywhere under her.
glad to hear the move for Josh went well.
I can see how hard it would be with the poor bubs like Josh with bad reflux Was bad enough watching Katie throw it all back without the distress. Hope things improve soon. :hugs:

Kaite has just had another bottle and so little back up. shes also sound asleep again! Its brought her day naps back. :smiliedance:
She used to wake to spill.

[Cordelia]

Aahhh what a lovely day! We slept til 8:30, went for coffee with mother's group, went shopping, came home, put her down for a nap while I did all the housework and had time to read my magazine!! This is more like it!! I shall hang on to this day for future bad ones!

I'm starting to put Caitlin in her own room in the cot for daytime sleeps to get her used to it... I've also moved her bassinette out into the front lounge out of our room - and I am sleepng so much better. I used to jump at every little movement and now I just wake when she actually needs me.

I hope things pick up for you Hels. Good to see you and your "support team" are onto it.

Better go get dinner happening.

[2s'nuff]

Hi-ya, just a quick post as it's dinner time and TJ's asleep.

Hels...:hugs: :hugs: hope youa start to see the brighter side of life again soon.
Tabby...now that you mentioned hiccups, DD1 had them a lot with her reflux. Tj has then at least once a day though too:rolleyes: .
Sugar...hope the new formula continues to work well, you must have a lot of half empty tins at home.
Cate...3 needles? TJ had her injections today and only had two. There was the option of the gastro needle, but at $140 for each jab (2 needed) I've stilll got to decide if I want to do it.

TJ has her needles today and aside from a little grissle, she seems ok (so far). Hot here in Perth today, had the aircon on all day and will do the same tomorrow.

Keep well and have good sleeps,
Lisa

[victoria75]

Well we went to see the specialist today and he has said that she has " Failure to Thrive" syndrome. You can imagine how that has made me feel. Off for blood tests tomorrow and I have to basically force feed her now. Not a happy place at the moment.

Hope everyone else had a better day then me.

As for doing the deed - NOT ON YOUR LIFE. He can wait till I feel sane again. I am lucky though it hasnt even been discussed so at this point he is still being patient. He keeps saying he still doesnt know how I manage to give Birth.

[Strawberry_Shortcake]

Good Evening Ladies,

Gee this thread moves quickly.

Tabby – I’m using Karicare AR and yes I find that Talon got constipation when changing formula. I give him 1ml of prune juice in his formula once a day. He’s regular now.

Hels – :hugs: :hugs: to you Hels I hope you feel better soon. We are all thinking of you. I’m using ar formula and I use the pigeon peristaltic teats. Talon has no problems swallowing.

Sugar - Glad to hear the wedding went well and your 3 boy were well behaved.

Cate – I have pm’d you regarding brissy meet up.

Mousebrown - :hugs: to you and TJ on her needles.

Wow its amazing how some bubs are having just 2 needles and some having 3. Talon had 3 also. I’ve started putting Talon in his cot in his room during the day and when he goes off to sleep at night. When he wakes up for his 3 or 4am feed I usually put him in my bed so I don’t have to get up to early lol. Talon almost weighs 6kg and has grown 11cm in length since birth.

Anyway Im going to bed since Talon is in bed…

Hope all you ladies and bubs have sweet dreams

Take care
Kel

[Lukeandmattsmum]

Hi everyone well we have had some pretty good days and nights lately but i won't get my hopes up that it will stay this way.

HELS :hugs: to you and bubba and am glad to hear that you are starting to feel a bit better.

I don't know if Matt has colic or not or if he just gets bad wind every now and then. It always seems to be late in the evening when it happens but not every day. I am using infants friend at most feeds and this seems to help with his wind and to settle him.

VICTORIA75 sorry to hear about bubs i hope she gets better soon.

CATE I will see you on the 16th at 10am,

Matt is still in his bassinett but i really need to put him in his cot as he is getting to long. Might do that tomorrow. He has had a couple of sleeps in it and has been ok so:fingerscrossed: he remains that way. Maybe he might sleep more:cool:

Anyway he is finished his feed now i better go put him to bed.

[bossoflatch]

hels - :hugs: glad you are feeling a little better .

to all of those whos bubs are on formula - tayla uses the karicare ha ar - and she is a little better on it - she wasn't gaining weight so she is now breastfeed and then given 30mls of the formula to help with the weight - because she is mainly breast feed and the 30ml top up - she does one poo a day and more often than not - she does it after her midday feed - the only issue i have is it spills out of the nappy - not because it is runny but because there is so much .... tmi i know...

i can't remember what i have read - but is there a brisbane meet up ??? i am on the northside where abouts is everyone else?

ohhh !!! i start back at work on Friday night - sooo looking forward to it , tayla sleeps her 8 hours now - when she finally gets to sleep - still trying to settle her now but she should sleep till about 6.30 -7 am :fingerscrossed: i am finally going to get some adult conversatoin again ... yipeeee

good night to all those awake

leisa :wave:

[Lukeandmattsmum]

Leisa i have pm you

[3Divas&me]

Hey there, no personals it has taken for ever to catch up OMG!!:eek:

Have had a busy last 5 days, therefore been absent from the group and at times this group seems to fly along.

Bridget is still much the same. Having nights where she will sleep through then having nights that are rather unsettled. At times like this all Bridget wants is booby!

I am half way through my maternity leave, back to work 3 days a week in 7 weeks time!

Had a bit of me time on Friday arvo. I met some of the girls from work down at the pub for a few brewskies! It was so nice to get out of the house and to dust off my handbag and take it out somewhere (its been me and baby bag for the last 7 weeks!). Mum had the girls for the arvo which she really enjoyed as well.

I better go to get ready to begin my day i guess, especially whilst ones bub is sleeping so soundly!:sleeping:

[cate]

There is a whole lot of different stuff going on about immunisations.....some people have had 2 and some have had 3....yesterday Audrey had 3; Quadrecel, Comvex and Previnor........

which covers Diphtheria, Tetanux, Whooping Cough, Hep B, Haem influenzae type b, polio, pheumococcal.

This is what the current national immunisation program says for 2 months....why are some people only getting 2??? Did they maybe have the polio in the old drops style??? Interesting??? I would love for her to only have had two....maybe it's different in different states??

Anyone an expert??

Anyway, she was really good afterwards...fed like crazy all afternoon and woke up unusually early for her nighttime feed but then slept through from 12:40 to 7....can't complain.

[Cordelia]

States vary with immunisations I think.. I was a bit worried about what Caitlin missed out on only having 2 needles so I've looked it up to compare to yours Cate

The needles were Prevenar and Infanrex Hexa in Western Australia

These covered Deptheria, Tetanus, Whopping Cough, Hep B, Haem influenzae type b, polio, pneumococcal.

So these are exactly the same aren't they?? It must be the different states and how they administer them.

Had a pretty good night last night..

DH was quite upset last night. He can't settle her and she always cries in his arms. I think now the initial fascintation has worn off he's not feeling a connection there. It must be hard not being here all day and then nto being able to make her stop crying when he gets home. Especially when she shuts up as soon as I hold her everytime. :/ I think I have to stop being bossy towards the way he handles her and give him some space and time with her. He doesn't usually get upset so he really must be!!

[Tabby]

Morning,
I think after a day and a night on the AR formula I can safely say its working a treat! She hardly brings up any now. Now to just see if she gets constipated with the change, :fingerscrossed: she doesnt. but if it does ill do what you do Strawberry_Shortcake, thanks for the advice, will go buy it this arvo ready.
oh and her arvo naps were back how they were, longer than 15 mins! Suppose thats as shes not waking to spit milk or uncomfortable with the reflux.

Mousebrown: The norm for Katies hiccups was several times a day, sometimes after every feed, some even waking her from sleep, most annoying then. NO hiccups since AR ( touches wood )

victoria75: Sorry to hear the news, ive never heard of that before, is the cure to just force feed or is there other things also? and will it pass? Hope it gets better soon :hugs: .

cordelia: That reminded me of the huge mistake I made when we first got home, giving DP katie when she was distressed waiting for a bottle etc and I really shouldnt have, I should have let him get used to holding/settling her by giving him to her only when she was happy to start with. So after seeing him get all uptight and upset I stopped for a while and only handed her over when she was happy and then slowly handed her over when she was a "little" grizzly till now where he can take her any way she comes lol.
He was so proud the other day when she fell asleep in his arm for the first time. I even added the pics to my album as her sleeping pose in his arms was ever so cute.

uhoh massive post,sorry
I need to get out more I think lol
Anyhow, hope you all had a good night.
xx
V

[MyAlCoLo]

Wow, it's been a while since I've been on....so I had over 30 pages to catch up on!! :eek: LOL. Sorry, just did a very quick skim over them, so no personals. Thought I'd just pop in to say hello and give a little update.

Madison is just over 7 weeks now. She is such a little angel. She has slept through from 4 days old. Started with 8-10hour nights, now is more like 10-12hours :D Gotta be happy with that!! I'm sooooo lucky, have been with all of my kids. :) Very rarely cries at all. She's extremely placid.

Hope you are all well. Hopefully I'll come in more often and not have so many pages to go through next time, LOL. Take care.

[tired*mummy]

Hi everyone,
MyAlCoLo - Lucky you with Madi sleeping thru, i would be happy wth that lol.
Tabby - Hope the AR formula keeps working well for you.

Just a quick post before i head out. DD2 ended up going in to hospital on sunday night and was transfer to the Royal Childrens last night. She was doing ok and then completely crashed and is now in instensive care and will stay in there until she picks up. She's on quite a lot of oxygen so it's gonna take her a while to get better and get weaned off it. DH has stayed with her for the last few nights but so he is really tired and now i have a bad flu and DD1 has conjunctivitus (sp?), really hoping Sierra doest get that. Sierra has a bit of a cold but shes not too bad and not grumpy with it.
Dont know how long DD2 will be in hospital for, probably a week or more. Have my brothers wedding on Friday so :fingerscrossed: i can get to that and DH can stay at the hospital.

[2s'nuff]

:hugs: Tired mummy. Hope your DD2 recovers quickly.

While I remember, keep forgetting while on line. Our Ped suggested a mix of fresh OJ and water for bubs constipation.
1 teasp fresh squeezed OJ
4 teasp water

Cordelia...I think my DH is also feeling a bit frustrated and lost when it comes to TJ. Being away for two weeks means our routine and what may/may not work to settle her seems to change each time he's home. I just leave him to it when he's feeding and only interfere if he's really struggling.

TJ had an ok night last night after her needles. Gave her some panadol at about 8pm and that seemed to stop the pain cries.

Have a great day, and if in Perth, stay cool.

[Jenko]

Oh Georgia :hugs: to you and your family. I hope your DD makes a speedy recovery, poor little love. What a testing time for you all.

[jacstar31]

after a few nights of waking up more often...last night was great. geoffrey slept from 10-4.40am and then fed and slept till 9.30am. I am feeling soooo much better today after a good sleep! amazing how it makes you feel hey!

can anyone advise me on giving formula whilst still breastfeeding? what is the best formula? I am only wanting to initially just give him one feed at night.

[Tabby]

tiredmummy :hugs: to DD and all the family, hope she improves and recovers quickly.

Mousebrown: Thanks for that, I like the idea of oj in water. Shes due for poos this arvo ( as usual ) so :fingerscrossed: wont need any help that department tho.

:hugs: to those who had their needles recently, sorry if missed hugs for those.
and glad the panadol worked mousebrown. Hope shes not feeling any affects today xxx

Katie is still asleep! thats over 2 hrs, shes back to her old self again with proper naps daytime.
oh and DP is spending the day at a job to see if hes suited! fingers crossed for us.

looks like my eldest whos 25 has diabetes, hes up getting a glucose test now, am sure will come back yes as his readings are through the roof and hes feeling very unwell with symptoms of db :(

Vicki

[~J'dore~]

Cooper had his jabs yesterday:gloomy: He's a bit grizzly, but not to bad. I felt so mean letting them do it but I know it's for the best:yes:

Cooper has been feeding a lot more at night lately, back to a 1 - 2am feed and then again at 4 - 5am. He was doing just the 4 am feed. Hopefully he'll improve again soon:fingerscrossed:

[Flicka]

Hello lovely ladies.

Victoria - :hugs: for you and bubby. Hope the blood tests weren't too upsetting for you both.
Tired mummy - You poor things. Hope your DD is on the improve. Sounds like with all that is going on in your life you must be living up to your name "tired mummy".:hugs: for you.
Tabby - Also:hugs: for you about your son. Will he need to go on insulin or can he control it with his diet?
cordelia - I find I have to bite my tongue with DH sometimes (but probably not enough) when it comes to the kids. It is hard because I know the kids best and I guess he feels a bit left out sometimes.

Had a difficult evening last night while DH was at work. Kelsey was crying from wind pain and I was trying to put DS to bed. Ended up with 2 crying kids!!! I am finding it hard juggling a baby and doing things with DS plus having to cook dinner and get DS off to bed when DH is at work. Kelsey is fast asleep at the moment. She is having her needles next week and is having the extra rotavirus one as it is rampant around here. DS is at day care today which gave me a chance to get the groceries done. Must fly and do housework while I have the chance.

[freddie]

:hugs: to tired*mummy, you are so strong to be coping so well at such a tough time, hope the :angel: are watching over you and your family.

:fingerscrossed: to Tabby for your DH and his job.

Jacstar we have been using AR26 Gold formula as a top up at night or sometimes in the afternoon if I think my milk supply isn't enough for Hamish. I haven't needed to lately as he has been feeding every 2.5 hours which is boosting supply I think. I haven't had any problems and he usually only has 60ml at a time, sometimes less and occasionally another 30 - 60 if he's really starving.

Cordelia I can really relate to your feelings about your DH. I have to try and be more understanding as well as mine really loves looking after Hamish but sometimes I feel that he is getting in my way. I have to remember that I have him all day and DH really looks forward to coming home and being with him. Even if he isn't doing things my way I know the only way for him to get to know Hamsh's ways is for him to spend lots of time with him. Mousebrown it must be hard for you with your husband working away.

Well we're off down south early tomorrow morning so wish us luck for the long drive! I really don't know how it will go but I had to blast DH who kept repeating how terrible it was going to be! I am having to make a concerted effort to train him in positive thinking.

:wave: kx

ps hope you're feeling better too Hels. I know the times I've nearly lost it are when I'm at my most tired and Hamish shows no signs of wanting sleep. If we could all get a good night's rest it would be so much easier wouldn't it? Our CHN talks a lot about societies where the whole family/ social network help look after the baby compared to ours where most of us really are on our own the majority of the time. Well I'm off to visit my mum for 3 days so hopefully she can help with the sleep bit anyway!

[icugal]

Hi January mums :wave: ... just thought I'd pop in and say g'day. I'm Penny, one of the February girls (well, was meant to be) however I actually ended up delivering my son two weeks early, so technically I'm a January mum. I figured that I may as well play with you guys as well.

I feel like I already know most of you as I followed your "Due in January" forum. I look forward to getting to you know all better :)

[Tabby]

Katie seems very sleepy today, has been since AR formula change, thought it was just cos we were out most the day yesterday but shes the same again today, very cuddly too, just wants to lay on my chest tummy down and cuddle and nod off. shes sleeping heaps more and cant remember if thats how it should be at 9 weeks now shes helped the reflux is it just that shes more comfortable?
for those of you with that age bubs how many hrs day sleep is there for you?

Flicka: Hope things are a bit easier for you soon. I have much admiration for those of you with more than one! Ive had a 10 yr gap then a 15 yr gap so never experienced it but totally can understand, hard enough juggling one little one with housework, family etc.

~J'dore~ : Hugs for Cooper today! Hope he settles well.
Maybe hes having a growth spurt for those extra feeds?.

icugal: welcome to jan mums. Congrats on your son Kaelan. Look forward to getting to know you

[mamabearof3]

Ariane has been growing out of her wraps and suddenly I remembered this morning what we used with my boys when they got to that stage so thought I'd suggest it to you guys too. We used cot sheets as people suggested but since I didn't have enough to contend with a spewy baby I ended up using a couple of sarongs. I also found they are lighter than wraps and sheets as well as more decorative. I used the regular size sarongs as well as the shorter one's just wrapped around the arms.
So I've pulled them out again now and have Ariane wrapped in style now

[Hels*Bels]

Mim1 - Now that my head is out of the clouds and I can see things more clearly, I really don't think Reece has got reflux. He just sicks up now and then like all babies. But I have my 6 week check next week with the Dr so will find out for sure then. Dr also said a small amount of mylanta is ok, I only use it when he has bad wind or tummy pain. It's the only thing that works.

Victoria - I have never heard of "failure to thrive" syndrome before, I hope she grows out of it soon :fingerscrossed:

Cordelia - I can relate to the DH and settling thing. But at this stage I think the bubs just want their mums when they are upset (I know mine does). I try to get DH to have some "daddy time" as much as possible, but it's really up to how bubs is feeling!!

MyAlCoLo - Nice to hear from you again and how did you end up with the perfect bub??? Enjoy it, sounds like you are all doing well.

Tired*Mummy - I hope things get better in your household soon :hugs:

Jacstar31 - I was doing formula top-ups with breast milk for a while, we use nan gold ha as it is meant to be the closest to BM, but I don't think it really matters which one you use. We also used to mix it in the same bottle with the breast milk, this helped him to get used to it before having just formula.

Freddie - Enjoy your trip away, the break should do you good. (Great avatar pic of Hamish too)

Penny - :wave: Nice to see you in the January group!!

Me - I started a mother's group today and really enjoyed getting out and meeting the other mums. Reece is the youngest bub there (almost 6 weeks) and the oldest is 10 weeks. PND came up during the conversations and 2 other mums have it too, so it was nice to chat to them about it, I don't feel so alone now. I am really looking forward to going again next week, Reece was very well behaved too. This was my first trip out by myself and it has helped my confidence heaps :thumbsup:

We still have the same night time routine, he goes 5 hours and then 4 hours, so that's not too bad. He is going about 3.5 - 4 hours in the day so has now cut out a feed. Quantity is 150mls per bottle now.
I will have to buy him some new clothes soon, he is growing out of them so quickly.

[icugal]

Hels... a question about the Mylanta. How do you give it? Are you using a syringe or cup?? Or are you mixing it in with the formula. Also, is it regular Mylanta or is there a special kiddies version that I don't know about?

Sorry to bombard you with questions...

Great to hear you did well with the mothers group. I've got one to go to in a couple of weeks... hopefully my trip out is as successful as yours :)

[Hels*Bels]

Penny - I am using mylanta liquid, it's just the ordinary stuff that I had left over from my pregnancy. I give him 1ml in a dropper straight in his mouth, but a syringe would be fine too. I put his dummy in afterwards as it helps him swallow it and gets rid of the taste. I give it to him usually after a feed if he is squirming alot and being a bit sickie. It works within a few minutes to settle him. I only have to use it about every second day, he seems to go alright in between.

[sugar n spice]

welcome penny
well i put my neck out today so been to physio and no lifting. yeah right thats a bit hard when you have a pram and bub:rolleyes:

[Hels*Bels]

Sugar - Ouchies, I hope you feel better soon, try to take it easy if you can (easier said than done, I know!)

Well, what a $hitty end to a nice day... DH had a car accident on the way home from work. It was his fault, he rear ended a stationary car at a crossing. The police were called as a person on the crossing was hit by the car that DH hit, but he walked away unhurt as it was all very slow and he was only nudged(phew). Looks like DH could be charged with careless driving though. He lost his licence for 3 months last year for exceeding 12 points, so I don't think they will be very lenient this time. He is not a bad driver, but because he is on the road all day his chances of having an accident or speeding ticket are higher than everyone else. I feel really guilty because he is getting little sleep right now due to the nightly feeds. I mostly do them but he wakes up or helps me. I have suggested he takes some more time off whilst his van is being repaired, somehow we can get through without the income. I am more worried about the charges he might face and his licence. Oh well, thankfully I am on these anti-depressants so it's helping me cope!!

[icugal]

Thanks for the welcome guys :)

Hels, maybe your DH can use sleep deprivation from having a newborn as a contributing factor to the accident?

[finalcountdown!]

Hi all!!

Sorry no personals, havent had time to read the thread properly!!! Just seem to run out of time in the day!!

Jett had his needles today, was really good, didnt cry much, but has been a bit unhappy today. He has had a couple doses of panadol, but has been off his bottles all arvo. He s just gone to sleep but i think i m in for a big night!!

He is still waking up 4 times during the night for feeds!! He is such a hungry little fella....thinking maybe i need to give him some farex or something??? Yesterday he had 9 , 120ml bottles !!??

I fear that this boy will NEVER sleep through! :banghead:

We are still on a good run with no screaming though, its been all good since the visit with the chiro...he has another appt again friday...wonder if he can make him sleep!! LOL

Actually managed to get out and mow the lawn today while he was asleep!!!
Anyway just thought id touch base .......
Hope you are all doing well...
PS - 2.5 kilo down this week! Hooray.... 12 to go~!:smiliedance:

[Flicka]

Hels - Sorry to hear about your DH. If the legislation in your state is anything like Qld - the maximun you can get for driving without due care and attention (same as careless driving) is 6 months disqualification and a fine I think but to be honest, I have rarely seen it - especially not to someone who has a job where they are required to drive and also have a family to support. Most people just get a fine but it depends on alot of factors.
Sugar - You poor thing! I hope DH is helping out and the kids are behaving themselves.

I had a bit of a better evening on my own (without DH). DS went to bed quite well with only a little bit of a grizzle. Have just gotten Kelsey to sleep as she had terrible wind pain again tonight. It is strange because it just seems to have started the last week but it isn't every night. She does the loudest and most violent farts though (hee hee sorry TMI).
Well, I had better get used to handling the kids on my own as DH is going away for 5 nights at the end of the month. I bet I will be slightly crazy when he gets back....
Question: Is anyones baby self settling yet? I am trying to get kelsey to go to sleep on her own but it takes me a few goes (and about 40 mins) to get her to go down. I rock/cuddle until she is sleepy and then put her down and hope she nods off. I swaddle at night but put her down on her tummy during the day. What do you all do?
Well, I'm off to bed. Sweet dreams to all the bubs.....long sleeps to mums!

[Flicka]

Finalcountdown - Well done on the 2.5 loss. What are you doing? I need to lose about 8kg......

[bossoflatch]

hels - i am so sorry to hear about your dh :fingerscrossed: nothing too serious comes of it !!!

well we had an interesting day today - a real learning curve for me - tayla started her zantac last night - and today she has been having her mylanta regularly - i have seen a huge improvement in her today she slept really well today and hardly cried - i heaps of smiles out of her and we acutally played while she cooed heaps -- i had soo much fun with her. i think it is a lot to do with the positive thinking thing ..

flicka - i have been trying the self settling technique with her - i do what you are doing swaddle/ cradle her until her eyes start going heavy and then put her in her bed . sometimes she goes to sleep- other times i go and give her a pat on the belly or a slight rock on the bassinet - i guess it is what ever works for each bubs at the moment.


good night sleep to all :fingerscrossed:

leisa

[victoria75]

Hels - So sorry to hear about the accident hopefully nothing to nasty will come of it. I would certainly be letting them know that he has a newborn.

Flicka - you are doing better then me I cant even get her to settle at all by herself in her bed. :fingerscrossed: I will get to it soon. I think I need to get over her medical stuff first.

Leisa - I hope you continue to see improvement.

We had all the blood tests done yesterday and urine tests. It was pretty horrible to watch and I made DH hold her b/c I just couldnt. They took 2 vials from such a tiny bub. Everyone keep your:fingerscrossed: for us and hopefully we find a reason for her lack of weight gain.

Take care

[Ellembee]

Hi all

Hels: Re the reflux thing - I think you are right about some babies just being a bit sickie. My little one is really sickie, but occasionally has episodes of reflux. I can tell it is reflux as the vomit is a real vomity acid smell and she is really upset and not at all settled and content after or during the feed. I haven't yet done anything about it - just a lot of cuddles and a top up feed about an hour later (which I am sure gets rid of the yucky taste). We are seeing her ped the week after next, so I will ask her if she thinks I should be doing anything else.

I don't plan on medicating for just the spewiness without the distress (just resigned myself to lots of washing!)

Have a great day all.

E xx

[finalcountdown!]

Flicka - Am doing the tony ferguson diet. Its the shake one.I find it sooo easy!! My friend who has a 12 week old bubby has lost 11 kilos in 8 weeks, its quite easy to stick too!!

Who was it saying about the rota virus immunisation? I asked at the GP here and apparently it is btwn $220 - $350 is that what every one else has been quoted?????

Well bub has clinic today, it will be interesting to see what he weighs as he has done nothing but feed constantly lately!!! Still not sleeping though!! :thumbsdown:

Victoria - hope things start to improve for bub

Well im off to the hairdressers, taking bub with me so i hope he behaves!!!!!

[Hels*Bels]

Finalcountdown - Have you tried giving Jett 150mls each feed instead of 120mls? this might make him stretch out longer in between. Reece is having 150mls now, which makes 170mls when the formula is mixed in, he pretty much finishes it all and feeds around every 4 hours.

Flicka - Sometimes I put Reece in the basinette and he settles straight away. Other times he has a little cry first and I go back into him. The hardest time is when he has his evening screaming fit and it takes ages to settle him, but we keep persevering and he goes off eventually.

Us - DH went to work this morning, I managed to get him covered to drive our personal car for business use for today and tomorrow. I am hoping he will take next week off, monday is a p/hol here anyway.
He has to come home and ring the insurance company and panel shops etc, then I expect he will go to bed poor thing is so tired. I'm tired too of course but I seem to have more energy on these tablets so it seems.

Well last night Reece had his usual crying fit in the evening. We put him to bed and took turns in settling him, he finally fell asleep after about half an hour (around 8.30pm). He was due for a feed about 10pm but was asleep so I went to bed and left him to wake up when ready. He didn't wake until 1.30am!! so he had gone 7 hours since his last feed and 5 hours of sleep :smiliedance:

[Acacia]

Hi everyone,
I havent had much of a chance to get on here, so i hope everyone is doing well.

Tom has really bad gas. Its been keeping us both awake for a long time. I tried Infacol but it made him worse. Im now on herbal colic drops and they seem to be going well. I feel so sorry for him as he is in so much pain. Im at my mums and she is helping out heaps so i can get a bit of rest. He was fine until a weeks ago. He was gassy but not to this extent.

I think maybe i have too much milk. The milk comes out so fast through the nipple shield so i think he is eating too much and getting air. Im going to try expressing and see how that goes.

Sorry for no personals. I hope your all going really well.

[Charis]

Hi!
Welcome Penny and Dooce!! Most of us were here when we were pregnant..but we're wonderfully welcoming specially to beautiful newborns and their Mums!:wave:

Hels, ok ok, you sound like the 'old' Hels now :) Am truly glad things are getting better, well except for car crash! V glad everyone is ok though!!

Awesome R self settles during the day!! We're just the other way. What is yr nightime routine? H would cry and cry at night till I read on here 'of course' a bath, massage before his last feed. Hes so dosey at night now, tends to fall asleep while feeding, or just after. Days are another matter, swaddling/pacing, baby bjorn, car.. +all the suggestions made to Victoria.

Its a weird thing to write but I don't think H enjoys cuddles. ?? I keep reading about poor post needle bubs and cuddles. I guess sometimes he only wants to be held but seems like it is a good way to see the world, while being close. Maybe its just cos he's long/skinny that it doesn't seem like a cuddle??

What kind of 'lack of weight gain' are we talking for being classed 'failure to thrive?' Victoria?? I reckon Hunter could be a contender too.That term certainly needs a euphemism. So many baby things sound much better than they are, "Settling" for instance. Nice, calm word.. :fingerscrossed: that all is well!!

Looking forward to meeting Perth girls+bubs tomorrow :smiliedance:

[tired*mummy]

Hi everyone
Thanks for all the :hugs: and kind words.
DD2 isnt any better today, she has been moved out of instensive care but almost went back there overnight. They are thinking she also has a viral pneumonia as her chest xrays are quite bad and worse than the ones she has last time she was in hospital with pneumonia. Other than that DD1 still has her conjunctivitis but its better than yesterday, and i'm feeling a bit better after lots of cold and flu tablets lol. So hopefully DD1, Sierra and I should be able to make it to my brothers wedding tomorrow.
Sierra is really good besides being a little stuffy, she slept 6 hrs last night which was great as got to sleep 4 and 1/2 hours of that. Then she fed and slept for another 4 hrs so i got about 3 hrs out of that which was good cause i felt exhausted.
DH will be at the hopsital all day today so i'm just going to take it easy and do a little housework, only the things that have to be doen like washing and putting the dishwasher on and then organising what i will wear to the wedding tomorrow. I've had so much going on that thinking of something to wear has been the last thing on my mind. Hopefully i can find something in my wardrobe that fits :laughing:
Well anyway better get to it... hope everyone is well and all babies are behaving themselves.
Take care
:wave:

[Strawberry_Shortcake]

Hi All,

Icugal- Welcome to January thread.

hels - I'm so sorry to hear about your dh. Glad he's ok, hopefully nothing too serious comes of it.

Victoria - hope things start to improve for bub. To be honest I haven’t heard of "failure to thrive" syndrome before.

Tired mummy- Hope your DD2 recovers quickly.

Us- Had a s&%t of a night. The whole family has come down with the flu. Talon was restless all last night. Couldn’t be bothered getting in and out of bed to be with him so I put him in our bed. I rang the chemist last night to see if there was anything I could give him but was told, Not for his age. So I’m heading to the dr this afternoon to see if they will give me anything for Talon.

Take care
Kel

[Tabby]

Strawberry: aww no, what a bummer to all get the flu! Hope dr's helps and you all recover fast!

Sugar: hope your feeling better today and the physio helped.

finalcountdown: well done on the weight loss!
glad the chiro seems to be doing wonders too.

Flika: Ive had Katie self settle since before she was even moved to the cot, doing pretty much what you said. Soon as I see yawning and her hands fist to her chest I know shes ready for bed, so into the room to swaddle her then pop her in with mobile on and a dummy. Every now and then I might have to go in and pick her up for a quick re-wrap and cuddle if shes getting upset but as soon as her eyes are closing its back to bed. Luckily thats not very often. Making sure that while Im doing that I dont talk or stimulate her. The night routine is as soon as I see first yawn or im hungry I first bath her then/feed/cuddle/bed and as above, she seems to know now that this routine means night sleep and bed time. Took a week of sticking to that to get it working so well. Sleeping 7 or 8 hrs nights. then right back for another 4 after feed.

leisa: Sounds like the zantac has worked a treat.

victoria75: Will be thinking of your little one and wishing her all the best to finding out soon and solving it! :hugs:

Hels: nice sleep for Reece! fingers crossed for more of them for yous.

Charis: Am also looking forward to tomorrow! Just cannot say yay or nay till the morning as DP is waiting on reply for that job he went to for the day and another job interview at 11.30 today. The only reason I would say no to coming is if he has a job and that means no car for me. But money is more important at the moment so if that happens I will just have to wait till next meetup :( when I can organise to drop him off and get the car.

Tiredmummy: More :hugs: to DD2! Hope the wedding goes well and you have some great "me" time , sounds like you deserve it hun!

Us: Ended up putting Katie back on the regular s26 last night, as I said yesterday she was sooo sleepy and lethargic and as that was the only change we had made.... Anyhow shes back to her usual happy, wide awake, beautiful self this morning! I know I shouldnt be changing willy nilly formulas but I would rather have her throwing milk up all over me and have my usual alert baby back :D
Shes gaining weight fine so ill just keep feeding her upright, keep her upright 30 mins after feeds and the elevated topend of cot and no car trips right after feeds.
oh and get centrelink, DP has been regected! They say he could have avoided job loss so cannot get for 8 weeks! So now we survive on only "part" parenting and family allow for another 5 weeks. Am very down again today over money worries.

xx
Vicki

[2s'nuff]

Welcome to the Jan group icugal

Flicka...TJ has self settled from day 1. I give her a quick cuddle when she's tired and then put her down. Haven't swaddled since about 3 weeks. I think it's more to do with the 'no time factor' than anything else.
Finalcountdown...We had our needles early in the week and got told $140 for each jab (two needed) for the rota virus. Stll thinking about it, but will probably do it next week.
Have you tried bigger feeds for bub? Sometimes it takes us a bit longer to feed, but I try and get the full 170ml into TJ each feed.

An ok night here. TJ settled about 10 then woke at 4. The only bummer was my bathroom hot water system decided to break. Got someone coming to fix it soon.

Looking forward to seeing the Perth mummies tomorrow.

Lisa

[Cordelia]

yay! one sleep til "Perth meet". It'll be great to see all our bubs together.

What a week you're both having tired mummy and Hels. :( I hope things get better SOON.

Tabby thanks for typing out what you do to settle Katie - I'm going to try it myself. I was SOOOOO frustrated last night. SHe didn't settel at first (but was almost asleep) so DH told me to go to bed and he'll take care of it and of course 45 minutes later she's screaming and so restless so I have to get back up. So it took til 12:30 to get her to sleep and then she woke up an hour later for her feed and then the whole rigmarole of getting her to sleep. I ended up with about 2.5 hours sleep thanks to an INEPT DH who I wouldn't say to his face as I'm trying to encourage fatherly love but THE PRICE I HAVE PAID ARRRRGHGHH

That was an awfully long paragraph.

Strawberry - I hope Talon gets better soon :/

Have a nice afternoon everyone!!

[Flicka]

Thanks for all of your thoughts on settling. I have been doing alot of the same things and try and put Kelsey down when she is just dropping off. She usually wakes again and sometimes it takes me a few goes to have her off to dreamland. When she wakes during the night for a feed, I just do nappy change if needed, re-swaddle and boob feed and put her straight back to bed and she has to sort herself out. kelsey is still in a bassinette but it is looking small and she is getting so big that I think I will have to move her into her cot in her own room. Bit of a shame as lazy mummy doesn't want to walk far to get her during the night!!!
Victoria - :fingerscrossed: here for you.
Finalcountdown - Have heard great things about tony ferguson however can't do it myself while b/feeding :thumbsdown: .
Also, kelsey is having the rotavirus needle next week. Think the chemist said it is about $130 per needle.
hels - Glad you are feeling like your old self again and Reece is being a good boy for you.
Charis - Agree with what you said about cuddles. Babies LOVE being held but I don't think there is such a thing as proper cuddle until they start sqeezing back. They are just a bit stiff and have no control over their arms and legs to have a proper snuggle. That's why I think b/f is nice (for me) and I love it when kelsey has a little break on the boob and looks up at me with her adoring eyes and gives me a cheeky grin!! I feel like it is her way of saying 'I love you'. Wait until Hunter is about 10-12 months and then he will give lovely cuddles.
Tired mummy - more :hugs: for you! Take care of yourself!!
Have a great day everyone.

[icugal]

Cordelia... I've had the same settling problems with my DS.. it's so frustrating isn't it? I might try the techniques that Tabby suggested.

And you should come into the Feb thread today.. we're all having a big b!tch about our DH/DF/DP's !! :D There must be an 'inept' gene on the Y chromosone me thinks.. :laughing:

[Tabby]

Your welcome Cordelia and good luck and hope it works. Forgot to say I make sure shes not at the point of being overtired when you begin settling, hence looking for the what I call ready for bed signs, with Katie thats holding her hands in a fist to her chest and she turns towards my chest to snuggle in and of course yawning. oh and lights off in the room, only a night light or dull lamp. The day sleeps differ from the nights by only the bath pre-cededing it really. It may not work at first, took us a week of perseverance and you might find other little things that work better for yous, really trial and error.

[Flicka]

Ooooooohhhh...I've got a ***** about my DH. Every time the baby is crying, he says she is hungry (even if I just fed her). It is his answer to a crying baby and he just gives her back to me.
He jigs Kelsey up and down when he is trying to settle her however this just makes things worse.
He doesn't listen to my advice when disciplining our DS (who is 2). He lectures DS which even makes me want to cry or fall asleep. Of course DS just tunes out.... Sometimes I feel like we aren't on the same page with respect to parenting.

I feel so much better now ladies. Thanks for listening. :) :)

[Ellembee]

i started the feed, play bath feed bed routine last week too - and it has been sooo fantastic! night time - i use my mobile phone as a torch - and don't talk to her. that works too.

now - how to get her to sleep more than an hour a time during the day is my next mission!

[Cordelia]

oh my gosh flicka I know what you mean. If I hear "i think she's hungry" again from ANYONE I will STRIKE.. with my bare fists... it's just their lame excuse for not being able to keep her quiet.

Ok Tabby, I tried it and all is good.. she went asleep but now she's struggling in her wrap and kicking around but is still in a really light sleep (I think) She did this for 3 hours this morning... grunting and pushing and kicking. Do I pick her up, do I leave her, do i pat her? Because I have a sneaking suspicion she'll keep doing it no matter what I do...

[Tabby]

Cordelia: Do you usually wrap her? if not it may take some getting used to for her being so constricted.
If her eyes are still shut and still wrapped and in a light sleep I would let her be tho. remember will take a week or so of settling routine to happen quicker and for her to figure out thats whats happening.
I actually use two thin wraps and fold opposites otherwise she wriggles out and does that light wiggly sleep or even wakes up so I do them quite snuggly ( but not too tight obviously ). If you feel she needs more sleep and shes wriggled out you re-wrap, settle with dummy or pat her and walk away when quiet again. Quite often Katie wriggles out of the wraps when shes ready to get up and just lays there talking but soon lets me know out loud when shes ready to get up.
with this heat and needing 2 wraps I dont want her to overheat so a singlet and nappy is all and a fan blowing lightly around the room allows me to do this. (and have very thin wraps.)
I tend to be a little more lax with the day sleeps if shes not settling and is tired as, ex: shes slept pram/lounge on tummy/ swing. Thats only about 3 times a week tho.
But the night ones I dont give-in no matter how long it takes. Saying that tho the longest would probably be 30 mins from settling to sleep. The average is 10-15 mins. Katies 4 am feed is kept very quiet and semi dark also so as not to stimulate her with sights and sounds so she will go right back to sleep after. its works every time for me.
Some say they are too young to accept routine but I beg to differ, Katie knows exactly whats happening, like as soon as her bib is put on she gets frantic knowing the bottles coming and as soon as shes put in the cot she looks at the mobile waiting for it to turn and smiles as soon as its on and does this thing with her head like shes trying to snuggle up. Its the perfect age now to get them to self settle ( just my personal opinion )
All it takes is learning what she likes and making a routine that suits her and sticking to it. oh and patience too lol
Im also not saying it will work for everyone, I have been extremely lucky with a easy baby this time round and some like ds2 NOTHING seems to work no matter how hard I tried

oh and looking good so far for tomorrows meet! fingers crossed I dont get lost. Have printed a map but is quite a bit away from here. If im late you know I took one of my fathers famous shortcuts that took twice as long lol j/k
no job and no interviews. have told DP that try re-arrange any interviews if come now so I can go, am sooo looking forward to it and its a much needed break for me. So will be able to go more in depth with you tomorrow if you like? :D Less confusing than it sounds here too
oh and you can tell me how you got her to accept the HAT! I tried again today it was hilarious, she screamed at me while on and soon as taken off she smiled, cheeky monkey!
xx
Vicki

[Flicka]

Totally agree with what you have said regarding settling Tabby. I wrap kelsey but only at night time as she sleeps on her tum during the day. I usually wrap her with one arm out as she likes to chew on her fist (no dummy). I also do the low lights (night light) during night feeds and just pop her back into bed. There is no talking and no eye contact - mummy needs her beauty sleep!!!:laughing:

Cordelia - I also agree that you should leave bubs if she is wriggling but has her eyes closed. I use some of the tips from the 'baby whisperer'. She was saying that it takes a baby 20 mins to get into a deep sleep so maybe your little girl is just squirming until in a deep sleep?? Also, baby whisp says that if baby is crying you should do the shush-pat. Pat firmly on the back (I'm sure you do already) and do long loud shush shush shush past her ear. Apparently babies can't concentrate on three things at once (crying, patting, shush noise) so they will stop crying. Worked for me tonight with kelsey. I'm sure you know most of this but i thought the bit about not being able to concentrate on 3 things at once was interesting.

Oh and if someone tells you again that your girl is hungry after she has just spent 40 mins on the boob, you have my complete support if you choose to remove their toenails with a pair of pliers!!!
Enough :ecomcity: from me - you mums need your rest...

[Lukeandmattsmum]

Hi ladies all has been well here.Matt slept from 8pm last night till 330am this morning, hopefully he can do it again tonight. He is in his cot now as he wouldn't settle in his bassinett.

We have needles tomorrow.:fingerscrossed: all goes well and he gets over them ok.

Just a quick one tonight as i am going to try and get some much needed sleep.:sleeping: :sleeping:

[finalcountdown!]

Just a quickie from me too as im exhausted..but wanted to reply before the thread gets too far ahead of me!

Thanks for the ideas on bigger feeds, but i make his feeds up as 180ml, but the little bugger will not take anymore than 120, he refuses!! sometimes its only 60 or 80 during the night!! He is getting very big....hes definetly a little porker!!

So ladies..if you have any other suggesstions in getting him to sleep through, im all ears!!! I have tried the wrap thing but he HATES it, he will wriggle and scream until he gets his hands out then he will calm down!?
Have tried the dream feed but he will still only go 3 hours from the dream feed!!!!

By the way, after 6 hours at the hairdressers today......it still looks terrible!!!! Thank goodness bub was an angel though!!!

[Tabby]

:hugs: to Matt for his needles tomorrow.

Flicka: Katie has just started chewing her hands/fingers as of yesterday, she seemed quite content today in the pram sucking away on them while watching telly. considering up until now she grimaced when she did it they seemed awfully tasty today lol

finalcountdown! Glad bubs was an angel today for you but bugger about the hairdo, the last 3-4 times Ive been Ive walked out unhappy, so hard to get a decent hairdresser that send you away happy. Sorry cant help you with any advice re settling any other way, im sure someone has some tips tho.
Hope you get a better night tonight.

Better go get to bed or too pooped for perth meet!
Sleep vibes to all the mums and bubs xxx

[bossoflatch]

morning ladies - a bit quiet in here this morning :eek:
hopefully that means babies have been sleeping well ...

i hope all bubs that have had needles recently are okay. :hugs: to all that are feeling effects!

we changed taylas last feed last night usually she would take a feed at 8ish and be awake until 10.30- 12 am - well last night we feed her a ebm with the new karicare thickener, bathed her , gave her the mylanta and she went down at about 8.30 pm. she woke up about 4.30 looking for a feed went straight back to sleep and woke up again at 8-00 am for another feed dropped the boys off - she stayed awake until we got home about 9.30ish and gave her some mylanta as she was really unsettled.. and she is off asleep again ...

since discussing her reflux on line - and getting advice - she has been such a happy baby - sleeping better and lasting longer between feeds. :smiliedance:

I know that some of you mums have been saying that bubs has been on the boob sometimes every hour or so -- what i have found out with the silent reflux baby is that they find the boob comforting after about an hour after the feed because that is when the first feed is being digested and that is when the stomach acid is rising - so they become really cranky and want a boobie feed for comfort to help settle as apparently they learn that the breast milk has antacid factors in it ... so for those like mine that was feeding every hour (and i thought it was because i didn't have enough milk - where in fact she was just wanting extra milk to help her!!!) maybe discuss with your doctor about some mylanta???

abit of a ramble :ecomcity:

i have a question for those breast feeding and expressing still - how much ebm are you giving bubs for each feed???
have a great day all
leisa
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[SammyG]

Hi,
Hope all the Perth Mums are having a lovely catch-up in person. It would be great if any Syd Mums want to give it a try.
I'm on the Northern Beaches but am happy to travel within reason 1hr15 is about my limit so I could get out west now we have the M7 or south around the Shire or anywhere in between!

Leisa, I offer one breast and 70-90mls of EBM each night feed around 8pm. I then express and save for the following night. I'm doing this so Michael is used to the bottle for when I am out, so far he has always held out till I get home but at least DH gets a chance to feed him while I express.

I'm also finding it easy to express more right before I go to bed when I have filled up again and then I am not uncomfortable for the night feed.

Woo Hoo! Last night Michael fed at 7:45pm and then not again till 4:15am.

Michael has mastered exploding poos, managed to get DH thru a nappy, outfit & wrap. He must have really wanted a bath.

[Jenko]

He doesn't listen to my advice when disciplining our DS (who is 2). He lectures DS which even makes me want to cry or fall asleep. Of course DS just tunes out.... Sometimes I feel like we aren't on the same page with respect to parenting.

I feel so much better now ladies. Thanks for listening. :) :)

Oh this sounds like my DH to a tee. He tries to lecture our DD and explain to her why she shouldn't do things. I try and tell him to keep it short and sweet, she's 2! But then he just thinks i'm telling him what to do. I know exactly what you mean about not being on the same page. Very frustrating. :banghead:

[Jenko]

Leisa, I offer one breast and 70-90mls of EBM each night feed around 8pm. I then express and save for the following night. I'm doing this so Michael is used to the bottle for when I am out, so far he has always held out till I get home but at least DH gets a chance to feed him while I express.

I'm also finding it easy to express more right before I go to bed when I have filled up again and then I am not uncomfortable for the night feed.

That sounds like a good idea, i might try that one. I also want Koby to get used to having a bottle so i can leave him with DH once in a while. I gave him a bottle of EBM the other night and he wouldn't take it, although he had had a huge feed. This was after i heated it up from the fridge, so had to chuck it out...i was not happy, what a waste!

[SammyG]

Jennasmum, yes doesn't it just break your heart to pour it down the drain?

DH's must all be on the same page with the little ones. I talk DH through what I am doing to discipline DS (2.5yrs) as I'm doing it so hopefully he catches on, especially as I too like it short & sweet and that actually works most of the time. Anything that shows DH he can put in less effort seems to work. Remember they are our "Big"kids and need to see what's in it for them b4 they will do it!

[Flicka]

Thanks Jennasmum and BenAndMichaelsMum. I feel a bit better knowing we all have the same 'issues' with our DH's. I think Dh expects DS to be like a small adult and I have to keep reminding him "he's just a child". When DS is having a 'bad day', DH takes it a bit personally like it has something to do with him and I have to remind him DS has moods and feelings just like anyone else. DS is a really good boy about 98% of the time but it seems like DH only sees the 2% of being naughty or having a little tantrum. (Sigh).
Thanks for listening.
Kelsey has been good today. Took DS to swimming lessons and was going to give Kelsey a quick boob feed in the car b4 we left but she was a bit sleepy so I decided to wait until we got to the shops - BIG MISTAKE. She got herself so worked up that by the time we got there and got a seat at the coffee shop for me to feed her, she was wailing LOUDLY. EVERYONE was staring at me. Normally I don't care but I was trying to give a boob feed. I felt like saying "do I stare at you while you are eating?".

Kelsey went down for her arvo nap really well today. Am still using baby whisperer techniques and put her to bed so she self settles. 5-7mins of shhhh and patting on the back and she zoned out and fell asleep like a champ. I am so proud of her!! Feel like I am finally getting the hang of being mummy for 2 and juggling my pair of rascals. Well, I feel like that today - ask me again in a few days and it might be different. I also think the fact I have been doing a bit of exercise has contributed to my positive mood as I am really trying to shed these pregnancy kilos. Well, DS has been watching ABC kids for way too long. I'm off to play cars with him. Take care.

[Charis]

:wave: Hi all
Lovely to meet MouseBrown, Tabby, Cordelia + Aries Moon today and the beautiful Tierney, Katie, Caitlin + Xavier too. Thanks MB and for organising it..Kathryn suggested the next one?? Freddie+Bubsone, even Sugar(? too far?) could come too?

Nicole, it took me a while to realise you're the wonderful birthday list maker!! V impressed :yelclap:

I dunno, I reckon after meeting so many happy and v sweet littleuns this morning, I think Hunter may have a colic/reflux wind problem.. mainly as he cries to go to sleep a lot. He's b-fed, but does cry a hell of a lot. Perfect night sleeper though.Up till now have only met groups of mostly much older bubs.. But same ages today, well he does cry ALOT.

Leisa sometimes H gets a top up EBM of about 60ml. No idea how much he actually drinks. CHN suggested EBM in small volumes, so then just heat/warm as required.

8wks today golly. Does anyone else relate to wanting them to stay really young, at the same time wondering at every new thing they can do?? H can almost BabyBjorn with the top down, head support, yah! No giggles yet..

:hugs: to Matt and Luke+MattsMummy for needles today.

Flicka, bizarre about them not being able to concentrate on three things at once. Hope Kelsey settling better. I sometimes think imagine if someone was rocking and shshshsing to me, when I was tired, I probably hit them.. :laughing: And my rendition of silent night had to have me outside MouseBrowns place...gorgeous red frangipani tree btw Lisa!!
Happy weekends xxSoph

[victoria75]

Hi All,

Charis - She was classed as failure to thrive because it took her over 4 weeks to get back to her birth weight and at 6 weeks has still only put on a total of less then 500g. So thats why she has " failure to thrive" They say she only eats enough to get rid of the hunger not enough to put on weight. I was told she eats to live, not lives to eat. Its not really a pleasant thing to say to someone.

We have her blood tests results back and they are normal so waiting on the urine tests.:fingerscrossed:

Will reply more soon. Missy has just woken up.

I hope all you girls who got together today had a great time. Look forward to reading about it.

[aries_moon]

:wave: hi!

Just wanted to say thanks again to MOUSEBROWN for organizing our little get together.....was great to meet you TABBY, CORDELIA, CHARIS and MOUSE of course, all lovely ladies and gorgeous bubs as expected- and yep, would love to host the next meet up at mine, let me know when is a good day for all.......

CHARIS I wouldn't worry too much about H having a wind problem, he might have just been having "one of those days", they're still so new to the world.....but of course u know him best, maybe see if doctor can suss out if its reflux???

Managed to successfully get X's passport photos done this arvo, was quite an effort getting him to look still long enough, had a good lol at the photographer though

someones hungry now, have a great weekend to all:D

[Cordelia]

Thanks for the lovely morning Perth girls :) And especially to mousebrown for organising it!! Good to see all your babies too!! We make pretty good lookers on this thread, you know ;) ... the babies I mean - well, not that the mums weren't good lookers - oh you know what I mean.

Caitlin just passed out from exhaustion... been trying to get her to self settle all afternoon - it got to 5:00 and I thought stuff it and rocked her to sleep again - only took 5 minutes. She was clearly craving it!! NEH!

I'm a bit worried about going out to a friends' tomorrow night - she's having a games night and everyone tends to make a lot of noise and it usually goes to 3-4 in the morning and I haven't done it with a baby yet. We usually try and leave everywhere we go by around 8pm and her games night doesn't start til then! So this will be a real test of our parenting skills!! Hopefully we'll be able to get her to sleep in one of the bedrooms. Things we worry about now!!

DH has some yummy chicken enchiladas ready .. mmm!!

[Hels*Bels]

That's great that some of you Perthies got to meet up, I wish I could have come along, but was a wee bit too far me thinks lol. But let me know if any of you ever come to Melbourne ;)
BTW, the Melb February ladies are having a meet sometime in april, I'm sure they wouldn't mind if some of the January girls came along. Let me know if anyone is interested.

We had a nice day, DH didn't work today so we went shopping with my parents and bubs. Reece was really well behaved and mum gave him his bottle in the shopping centre whilst DH and I did some retail therapy in Target :p
He started his usual screaming session tonight so I popped him into bed, poor thing was so tired he just fell asleep with little fuss. I am going to start cluster feeding at night to try to get him to sleep longer and to control the screaming sessions. It says in my baby book that some babies have a scream for an hour as part of their brain development, usually around 5-6pm. We just let him get on with it now, but make sure he is comfortable and reassured often, there's not much more we can do. He snaps out of it as quickly as it starts... very strange!!

He has also slept a 6 hour stretch for 2 nights in a row now :smiliedance: . Last night me and DH spent a total of 13 hours in bed and did 3 feeds in there, my mum thinks we have the life of Riley :laughing:

[finalcountdown!]

Hi everyone..

WELLLL FINNALLY HE DID IT!!!! :smiliedance: :smiliedance:
Im soo excited!! He went down at 8.30 and woke up once at 2.30am and went straight back down after a feed till 6.30 am !!! I was soo shocked!!!!!!!! He s just been such a happy little thing last 3 days two.... this is great!! Tabby - thanks for those vibes mate, i think they worked !! haha

Not really much else to report..... he took his first bottle of 180mls tonite too....usually only takes around 120.

Thats great that you all got to meet up, wish i could put faces to names too ...would make it much easier to keep up with who is who as this thread moves soo fast!

Cordelia - How was your night out!??

Im off to a hens night tomorrow night, would ve loved to have a few drinks, but DH is on nightshift so i have my younger sister babysitting, shes 23 and a single hairdresser. I know she ll be fine, but you know how it is, NO ONE can look after bubs as good as we can!! So im the designated driver!!!!

Charis - I know what you mean about staying young!! Im enjoying it all sooo much this time round. I hate to admit it but im soo clucky already and would lovvee to have another!! But, i know in reality that id be exhausted and in return wouldnt enjoy them as much...!!!

I hope i havent jinxed myself by gloating over the sleep !! haha....i know its not all night. but it sure suits me fine!! (before this he was waking 4 times a night !!)

[Lukeandmattsmum]

Well Matt had his injections today and so far he has been ok. Hopefully he sleeps ok tonight.

Matthew has had some ebm in a bottle and it ranges from 90ml to about 170ml. It all depends on when his last feed was. Tonight he had 100ml and was still hungry so had a bit more boobie.

Getting him to sleep has been alot better we have a bit of a cuddle then i put him down with his mobile or aquarium music thingo on and he puts himself off to sleep.:yelclap:

It was nice to see the perth mummies were able to catch up. Not sure who is from brissie here or in the Feb thread, but Cate and i are meeting up at the coffee club at Garden City Mt Gravatt on the 16th March at 10am if anyone is interested.

Just wondering does anyone use cloth nappies on here and what ones do you use?

Off to bed now.:sleeping:

[Strawberry_Shortcake]

Hi Ladies,

Sorry no personals today.

What a day I had yesterday. Talon has had a cold for the last couple of days. His nose was blocked, he usually drinks 200ml of formula every 3 hrs, yesterday flat out drinking 100mls every 5 hrs, a high tempeture and he was constantly crying... So that after noon I thought I would give him a bath before his next feed, hoping that would settle him. While bathing him I noticed he was flat out breathing, still crying and coughing really bad. So that’s when I decided to rush him to emergency department at the local hospital.

After sitting in emergency waiting room for almost 3 hours before we actually was seen to, a Dr finally checked him over and wanted to get a blood sample done before subscribing medication to him and also to see what was wrong with him. It took the Dr 3 attempts to get blood from him. Poor little man he’s bruised in 3 places today :crying: . After 8 hours at the hospital we finally got the blood results back and everything was clear. After getting told that the dr also said he has a bad case of sinus. I’ve never heard of babies getting sinus. Have any of yous??? Oh and the dr had the nerve to tell me, that there wasn’t anything he could give him to clear it up. He’s words were “let nature take its course”. :mad: So you could imagine how p%#$ed off I was when I was told that.

Talon is feeling a lot better tonight. I’ve got a lend of a vaporizer, hoping that might clear up his blocked nose. :fingerscrossed: it does, don’t like seeing him like this it make me :crying: .

Anyway ladies that was my day in full yesterday (not a happy one). Talon is finished feeding now so we are heading to bed. Try and catch up on some sleep.

So sorry for blabbing on..

Take care
Kel

[Flicka]

Wow ladies - I had no idea how many Perth girls there were on here. Good on you all for catching up. Was it weird meeting and realising who was who and what all of your real names are and what you looked like? Being online is like having a secret identity but now you have all blown your cover :laughing: :laughing: .

Know what you mean Charis about how annoying the shh/pat would be for us. However it is working a treat and only took about 20 mins to put Kelsey to bed tonight. Apparently self settling puts babies on the right path to being able to control their emotions as an adult. If they can self settle, then the theory is they can deal with their emotions better later on in life.

REFLUX -
Found some tips from the baby whisperer book for those poor mums coping with reflux.
I'm sure you probably know most of them.

A baby with reflux will have trouble getting through feeds and will splutter and choke. Sometimes they projectile vomit. Other times you see a watery cottage cheese vomit up to an hour after feeding because the stomach is in spasm. Baby also might have explosive poos. Baby might gulp air but with reflux babies it is often accompanied by a squeaky noise. Things to do:
- Elevate the cot mattress (I used a couple of phone books under the cot legs)
- Don't pat baby when burping. Patting may make baby vomit. Instead, rub in a circular motion on the left side of her back. If you pat, it irritates the oesophagus which is already inflamed.
- Don't start solids before 6 months.

Hope some of this helps.

I am looking forward to the w/end. Planning on taking the kids for a picnic somewhere.

[Flicka]

Strawberry - I'm glad bubba is ok. I think it is a total disgrace that you would have to wait at the hospital for so long with a baby. Surely a baby would be a priority. Hope Talon is feeling even better in the morning and that you have a good nights sleep.

I can relate to how you felt. When DS was 1 he got severe gastro. Took him to docs one evening and was prescribed antibiotics for an ear infection and told to go home and give nurofen. he got worse overnight and by morning he couldn't even lift his head up. Rushed to emerg dept of local public as there is no emerg at the private hosp here. Got a bed for him but waited and waited for a couple of hours while DS sufferred. I kept saying to the docs "DO SOMETHING". They were saying something about sending him for x-rays and putting in an IV but not until after change over of shift (what the??!!). I got DH to ring our paed who had us admitted at the private hosp straight away. DS had a stomach tube placed in straight away for fluids. Our paed couldn't understand why we had been given the run around when DS was so sick. It just makes my blood boil when i hear of people being treated like that!! Sorry for the rant.....

[Tabby]

Hi all,
Had a great time perth meet up today! Thanks MouseBrown :hugs:
Was great to meet some of those whom we've shared so much, from pregnancy till now. Look forward to the next one!

Charis: I agree and maybe worth checking with your GP about colic/reflux ? Did the infacol help at all?
oh and totally relate to the wanting to stay young forever! but also wanting to see them grow and see their eyes light up at everything new that they experience. Love that part.

Cordelia: :fingerscrossed: She settles nicely for you tomorrow at the games night. She may surprise you and not be fazed by any of it. Have fun!

Finalcountdown: YAY so happy for you. More vibes for many more the same and even better ones to follow :D

Lukeandmattsmum: I use cloth when at home, just your normal toweling ones or flannel here.

aww Strawberry, so so sorry to hear hes not well, poor thing, hope the vaporizer works a treat and hes feeling much much better tomorrow. :hugs: to Talon, especially after having to wait so long to get seen! thats just deplorable.

Well am pooped, been at the perth meet then got home and had visitors then had to go out again being a taxi, both of us are pooped I think as Katie flaked it at 830 mid bottle, she didnt even finish it lol.

sleep vibes to all
zzzzzzz's

xx
Vicki

[SammyG]

Good morning! It has taken 1.5hrs to feel human this morning - didn't have a nap yesterday, did groceries and washing till after 9pm last night which got me pooped. Normally don't do washing at night but DH only has 2 work shirts so have to wait for him to get home to put load on.

Strawberrie, have you tried saline drops in Talon's nose as well? Michael is always snuffly and gets adult size boogers and the drops help loads to get them out. Big :hugs: to Talon after his ordeal at that yucky hospital! Sinus is terrible for me as a n adult, can't imagine what it's like for a bub.

Cordelia, if you can get your little one to sleep at your games night imagine the freedom you guys will have. We are an exceptionally noisy family and Ben was able to sleep anywhere till he was over 1.5yrs when he wanted to be part of the action as well. I have had noisy cocktail parties etc in our tiny unit and people were amazed Ben slept right thru it all! :fingerscrossed: Michael is the same!

[2s'nuff]

A huge thanks to the Perth mummies who came yesterday. I hope you all enjoyed it as much as me.

Yah to those mummies who are starting to get a bit more sleep. Thurs night TJ slept for 8 hours, last night she made it through 7.5 hours - the best part was that DD1 also slept through:smiliedance: . :fingerscrossed: this is a pattern that's going to continue.

Luke&Matts mum...hope bub continued the good form after his needles.
Charis...How did Hunter go once he got in the car yesterday? I think he was perhaps taking in some of your nervous/excited vibes yesterday and didn't know how to handle them. Hope he has a more settled day today.
Aries...well done on the photo.
Strawberry...have you tried Fess up bubs nose? I squirt and use the sucker thing at least once a day. Most days get huge boogies out of TJ's nose. My Pead warned that if you don't keep bubs nose clear, they will learn to breath through their mouth.

DH got through the cyclone unharmed, though by the time it passed by I don't think they (he and his friends) would have really cared (just a couple of drinks or three). He did make it back to camp this morning to sign in, which means he gets paid for the day even though he's not working, YAH!

Have a good weekend!

Lisa

[Hels*Bels]

Just wondering does anyone use cloth nappies on here and what ones do you use?

I have just started using peapod pockets, I bought 6 of the small size and I love them :thumbsup:

Strawberry - Sorry to hear Talon is unwell and about your ordeal at the hospital, I hope he is better soon :hugs:

Mouse - I'm glad your DH was ok through the cyclone, I thought about you when I heard it on the news.

Reece choked on some water today, he kept coughing and couldn't get a breath. So I turned him on his tummy and patted his back and he brought it back up, phew. It was quite scarry but I was amazed at how I instinctively knew what to do and was quite calm about it.

It's all hands on deck here today cleaning up outside as we are having a few friends over tomorrow for a BBQ lunch, which should be nice. Then Monday is a public hol in Melb so I think we are going to take my parents for a drive up to the Dandenong Mountains. It's great now that Reece is getting bigger and behaving well when we go out.

DH has bought another CD it is called "Sounds of silence". It has sounds like the heartbeat in the womb, a vacuum and washing machine etc. They are all muffled so it's like what bubs could hear when in the uterus.
So far it has worked well, Reece will quite often lie in his basinette just listening. We can hear him making a few cooing noises on the monitor, then he goes off to sleep.
For those of you with sleep/settling problems, it could be worth trying this CD (it came from Target).

Hooroo and have a nice weekend.

[sugar n spice]

hi all. strawberry glad your little one is slowly getting better. ash has a bit of a cough.

i put my neck out so i have been back and forth this wk to physio. slowly getting better.

i think i mentioned it was my sisters wedding last wk, check out my zoints profile and you can see me all done up lol.

glad the perth meet went well

ashton sleeps through and is a prfect little bub.

[Lukeandmattsmum]

Hi all well Matthew had a good night and so far has had no bad reactions to his needles.

:hugs: to Strawberry and Talon i hope he gets better soon. I would also try the saline spray and nose sucker thingo. I found this really helped ds1 when he got a stuffy nose and the doctors wouldn't give him anything.

Sugar i hope your neck is getting better i know what it feels like when you have to try and chase after kids and you can barely turn your neck. Ouch.


I just purchased a bumgenius version 2.0 pocket nappy. still waiting for it to arrive though. This one just comes in the one size and you adjust it to what size you need. If that makes any sense.:confused:
I will let you know how i go when i get it.

Well thats enough:ecomcity: from me for now i have to get ready to go to a 30th bday party this arvo.

Bye for now

[Hels*Bels]

Sugar - You looked really nice at the wedding, hope you had a great day.

Well, I have just realised that for 2 days now Reece has been having the wrong formula. I accidently bought the follow on stuff for a 6 month old!! I can't say I have noticed any difference in him though so it doesn't seem to have done him any harm. If anything, he has slept more. The tins look so much alike though, I think I will ring Nestle and complain :rolleyes: But they will probably tell me I am just an incompetent mother! :laughing:

[sugar n spice]

Hels thanks for your comment. Yes i had a really great day.

Ashton is sound asleep atm has been asleep for the last couple of hrs so thats good. I just had a nap even though i slept in, been feeling exhausted lately

[Charis]

Hi:wave: Quiet Saturday here..
Hels great that you immediately reacted and calmly, such a relief that the choking cleared. Actually there really aren't words for it, relief x a couple of million!

I would lke to do a baby first aid course... Does anyone know about them? St Johns Ambos do them perhaps??

MouseBrown great to hear the other Mouse and crew are all good.Hunter was pretty happy the rest of the day, slept an amazing 3.5hrs that arvo. I tend to always have nervous energy, so he's used to it by now. And we usually go out each morning..but the infacol may really have worked..??

I know you're super capable but it is pretty awesome that you manage your two gorgeous girls alone for a big period of time.:smiliedance:

SammyG ha, you made me think I'd missed pages and pages..welcome to your new name!

:hugs: to Tired Mummy for Sierras sister also to Strawb for Talon.

Tabby I hope the ILs were shortstayed! Cordelia the games night is happening now? Hope all going well. After finding a nightime ritual which involves no crying I'm loath to change.. but that 'each day the same' feeling is all that gets me down. Good on you, tell us how it went.

Flicka, awful about the hosp treatment previously for yr DS!! Great the paed did get onto it.

Yes it was weird meeting, v nice too, but weird remembering who was really who, and knowing each others stories/trials/tribulations/joy when also only just meeting. Great meeting same aged kids too!!

The other Mothers Gp+Ante-Natal physio I go to all the bubs are older. Actually Tabby + Aries.. KEMH have great ante-natal physio Wednes 11-12.30 Physio dept block B LG floor. Its great!!! 6wk-16wk bubs

Oops lengthy post.. me, well had a great race this arvo a short course orienteering event, my third run so far.. but as it was a race I went as hard as I could. Felt so great after! 'Daddy' raced early and then held beautiful sleeping H-y while I ran. He looks after him Sat arvos:) Although we ended up spending most of it together. As no EBM, H was up twice last night which had me just wrecked this morning. I guess just depends what yr used to.. which is once, Think the poor sweetie got cold! Anyone else using Grobags, I think I'll invest in one.

nite nite. Last feed time now I post while feeding usually, courtesy of b-fing pillow. The relaxring sound of keyboard..

[Tabby]

Morning all

Hels: Its an amazing thing the mothers instinct on how quickly we act isnt it? I can remember ds1 choking on a cheezel at about 2 and responding right away and correctly, yet really had no clue beforehand.
Can understand the formula mistake, its a wonder I havnt done it! they all seem to be to so alike, s26 as well. there should be a law against it, confusing us sleep deprived new mums even more! I stand at that part of the shelf looking for blooming ages finding the right one. Not sure if its the sleep dep or just plain confused lol
Probably find hes sleeping more as would be a thicker formula is about all, he didnt get constipated I hope? Katie was lmore sleepy on the thicker AR one. Have fun with your bbq today!

Sugar: Glad you had such a nice day at the wedding. Hope your necks better. Understand fully here , have had 2 surgeries mine, finally fixed but before that it was hard, we dont realize how much we use our necks day to day until something like that!
hope the physio has helped xx

Lukeandmattsmum: Hope you had a good time at the party.

MouseBrown: ah glad DH got through ok.

Charis: IL's also came again yesterday. we were napping so they waited the hr for us to wake. I heard them but stayed put. Then she commented on the cloth nappy and bandy legs, what the hell!!! babys have been wearing them forever and no harm, she knows we cant afford keep her disposables with no job, personally im glad I intended on using them and had them there ready or we'd be in the poo.
Glad H settled for you that arvo, trying infacol again? grats on the 3rd run!!! well done. Yes I have one growbag so far. Hope to be able to buy more.
oh and what happens at that ante-natal class? what sort of things do yous do?

Katie has been 8-3 or 9-4 for ages now so have changed things around to get her bed later. Usual feed at 8 then the bath and it gives her a new round of energy, after it she plays/cuddles for an hr then we have nappy change and topup and off to bed about 10. So now we have 10-6 this last 2 nights! 6am feed its nappy and half a bottle,back to bed till 9. dont think she will be waking for that 6am for much longer either as only having half and very sleepy through it. Cant complain here.
Well better go get a load washing on, have to admit theres a WHOLE LOT more now with the nappies lol

Hope everyones weekend is going well and bubbas all settling nicely xx

Vicki

[Hels*Bels]

Tabby - Can I help you out with some clothes? Reece has been given some summer clothes that he won't wear as by the time he fits into them it will be too cold in Melb. Most of them are neutral colours and I thought that Katie might be a bit bigger than Reece. Perth has warmer weather than Melb, so if you want some please PM me and I'll send them to you.

We fed Reece at 10pm last night and put him to bed straight after, he slept until 4.30am :smiliedance:
He had his usual screaming session last night. This time we put him in his swing and blasted out some music on the stereo, he actually fell asleep! It was nice to play some loud music again and we had a beer too, just like old times lol.

Have a great sunday everyone :D

[Tabby]

Sure Hels! will pm you now.
Katie has just gone to 000's depending on the make.
I just cleaned her draws out of 00000 and most 0000, cant bring myself to sell/give away ( some never worn ) Same as the bassinet.
So have boxed them because you never know as mil says, I think shes secretly hoping I will maybe have one more.
This bassinet was my dream bassinet and something I always wanted with ds1 and 2 but never had. So now finally have it, I don't want to part with it.

[Strawberry_Shortcake]

Hi Ladies

A Bigs Thanks for the :hugs: for Talon and myself. He’s finally getting better. For all the ladies that suggested Saline Drops, I’ve been using it for the pass week. I used a vaporizer on Friday night and by Saturday morning I could see abit of improvement. His temp are back to normal and he’s started drinking 200mls of formula again. :fingerscrossed: by the end of next week he’ll be back to his normal self.

Have a good Sunday

Kels

[Tabby]

Strawberry_S, Thats great news that Talon is getting better!
Katies back in bed again after waking at 930, played for an hr then wanted a feed and bed again! Shes sleeping heaps, must be another growth spurt happening.
I just dont know what to do with myself, am treating myself to a day off housework as I did heaps yesterday in and outside but am bored now that shes asleep :laughing:

[Flicka]

Strawberry - Glad little Talon is improving.
Hels - Sounds like you have Reece all figured out during his unsettled times. Great idea to turn the music up and have a beer. In fact, my DH has just popped out to get a bottle of wine so we can have a glass with dinner!
Charis - You sound like you are so organised and fit to be back running. I have just organised to hire a treadmill to burn away those extra baby kilos I have. Just that little bit harder to get out and about with 2 little 'uns!!!
Tabby - Don't blame you for staying in bed when your out laws turned up. I am lucky mine live a plane flight away and can't just visit when they please!! Sounds like Katy is such a contented little girl with a great routine!!

Well, kelsey and DS are napping and I have been getting stuck into some housework. kelsey has been sleeping well. Last couple of nights she has slept for a long stretch before only getting up for a feed early in the morn. Last night she slept 9 hours straight!!! My DS used to feed/wake 4-5 times a night until he was nearly 12 months old so Kelsey has just been fantastic. Catch up again tomorrow.....

[Cordelia]

Hi everyone,

We had a great night last night at my friends - we didn't leave until 2 and she was wonderful. She slept til 11 this morning and I just hope that it hasn't stuffed her day/night up... anyway, I felt really good as my friends are definitely not baby ppl and she was the model cute, quiet baby. so we got no looks of "i told you so - who would have a baby at your age..."

We looked at Grobags but they were so expensive. (*Mind you we looked at David Jones) They had some sleeping bags at Target for $15-$36 so we might go grab one - altho I don't know how she'll go without having her arms wrapped - she wakes herself up by smacking herself in the head when she's not tightly wrapped!!

Well she's been crying for 20 minutes now under DH's care so I might go rescue her... what on earth does he do to her?!?! The Sh sh sh sh sounds he's been making for the whole time DONT WORK.. just stop DOING IT.. it's driving me MAD

[tired*mummy]

Hi everyone

Well DD2 has been moved out of ICU and is in the ward now so hopefully she will improve more. Will still be a while before she is well enough to come home.
Sierra's little cold has now turned into a nasty chest infection and she is quite miserable. Her temp has been up around the 40 mark a few times so Dr has given her antibiotics so i'm hoping they work fast for her and she can get over it quickly. I'm still feeling really crappy with the flu and i have quite a few ulcers in my throat which is awful, just want to eat but hurts to much to swallow anything. Dr says the ulcers are probably from stress or being run down. Anyway have some lozenges to numb my throat so hopefully they will go away soon :fingerscrossed:
DH will probably take another week off.. well i'm hoping he can. Would help me out alot if he can. The nurse in ICU yesterday told DH and I that we both looked like S%$! :laughing: and we should go home to bed. But thats easy for them to say, they dont have 2 other sick kids to look after aswell.
Anyway thats my winge for today... sorry no personals, havent had time to read alot of the new posts.
Hope everyone is having a good weekend, take care
:wave:

[sugar n spice]

tiredmummy - sorry to hear sierra is sick, i hope she gets better real soon and hope you start feeling better soon:hugs:

[Hels*Bels]

Georgia - Big :hugs: to you, you've really had a tough time of late. I hope everyone feels better soon :fingerscrossed:

We had a nice day today, some friends came over for a BBQ, one of them is 28 weeks PG and quite big already. I wasn't much bigger than her at full term!! She is worried about having a big baby, she kept asking what Reece weighs now (which is about 9lbs 7oz) and she's worried she might have to push out a baby his size (poor thing, that makes my eyes water just thinking about it!)

Everyone keeps asking me when we want to have another bub. To be honest, the thought of going through another pregnancy and childbirth makes me want to superglue my legs together! :laughing:
I think there's a very big chance that Reece will be an only child :rolleyes: .

Anyway, he was really well behaved all day and slept in my arms for most of it. But as soon as everyone left he had his little screaming fit. Oh well, at least we know it's coming every night so we can prepare. Strange how a baby can go from being so placid and loving one minute, to a screaming banshee the next!!

[Flicka]

I just put Kelsey to bed and said to DH "I'm just going to use the computer" and he just rolls his eyes......I guess he doesn't understand that you ladies have become my support network. I love reading about how you and your babies (and other kids) are going every day. My time on here has become my 'time out' iykwim.

Cordelia - So glad to hear your night out went well. You sounded so worried b4 you went so I am glad little Caitlin was a sweetie for you.

Tired mummy - Thinking of you lots :hugs: . hope you are all feeling better soon.

Did you all see target is having a baby clothing sale? I picked up a few nice things for kelsey and DS for winter at 20% off.
Off to bed now to get some zzz while I can.

[Flicka]

Don't laugh Hels. If Reece weighs 9lb 6oz now......just think that is what I DID push out because that is what both of my children weighed at birth (well half an ounce less!). Big babies aren't too bad. Just like a very large bag of sausages really!!:laughing:

But seriously, funny you should mention having more kids. I know DH and i went thru alot to have DS and people immediately started asking when we were having another. Even after they knew how much heartache it had taken to have DS, they still brought it up. I would love to have another bub but I think I will be happy with my pidgeon pair. Plus daycare and private schools are so expensive!!!

Are any of you planning on having any more kids?

[Tabby]

tiredmummy: Glad dd2 is improving! Sorry to hear little Sierra's cold has taken a turn for the worse tho! :hugs::hugs: to all of you.

Cordelia: YAY Glad all went well last night for you and you had a great time.

MouseB, Hels and Flicka: Your generosity with the clothes... what can I say except how much its appreciated and one less stressful thing to worry about thanks to you three :kiss:

oh least im not the only one getting asked when the next one is coming lol. If I do it has to be fast considering my age and thats the bit im not too keen on, but to have 2 close together would be nice and Katie sure is a easy bub. Not sure how DP would react tho lol, but when his mother mentioned another I didnt see/hear him say NO WAY....Am keeping everything for now just in case :D

Well Katies in bed so time for a shower and ready for bed myself
Hope all had a great w.e
xx
Vicki

[sugar n spice]

Id really like a fourth child but dh really could not cope with another one and i know he doesnt want anymore. so i guess that idea is on the back burner for now. I wouldnt want another one for at least three years anyway.

[Charis]

Hi!
Sugar hope yr neck is getting better and better!! That has nothing to do with wanting another bub, btw!!
TiredMummy what a time for you all, how was the wedding in the midst of sickness? Though leaving ICU prob as much a celebration.
Tabby the antenatal physio class is a classic!! Free and for any Mums who birthed at KEMH..the bubs 'rest' nestled on a beanbg each and we all do some aerobic like stuff (all highly un-co!!) and some pelvis floor specific circuits, then some baby massage. Just wear 'exercise' clothes, change room there. 11-12.30 for 6wk-16wk. Some girls have lunch after, havr only been just once so far. Bout 10 people last time. Nice time.Be lovely to see you+K there.
Great Cordelia+Hels about partying:smiliedance:
Well H and I were out for 12hrs!!! 5 of those he was asleep at my Mums. YES FIVE hrs straight..had to wake him up. So hoping he's not confused day+nite. Went to watch 'Daddy' in cycle race, the most 'girlfriendy' like behaviour,I know!! Then to my Dads for lunch..Mums for arvo tea, which then became dinner!! He's still on his last feed now. Had the same ritual despite the time. ...is v v almost asleep. Thus super long L:H post:wave:

Well not long at all.. Grobags, I ve been ebay bidding them, love ebay. Always disliked shopping, but ebay excellent! Specially left handed shopping on line. well I don't buy much anymore..but did bid on Sounds of Silence (thanks Hels!) and heaps of gro-bags recently..haven't won any!

Cordelia, yes! About the 'as if thats going to put them to sleep'..of course we don't say it, but we can all think it:) I admit I was shshshshushinh for ages before his recent mammoth sleep (10min or less) as soon as I started the ole Silent Night..whimpwe whimper and asleep.. Flicka great about the treadmill! Running is/was the norm for me, used to train everynight..so feel more back to me when I run. Would love my tummy to remember that too..

[Jenko]

Hi All

Charis - good idea re grow bags on ebay, i didn't even think of that. Glad your able to do a bit of running and feel normal again. It's nice to feel like your old self, i'm just getting there myself....not the running but feeling like myself lol

Cordelia - sounds like you had a good night with your friends, well done Caitlin for being pefect lil bubba.

Hels - My DD used to love loud music to settle her. I would sit next to the clock radio with it blaring to some rock station and she would just nod off....strange but very useful! Sounds like Reece behaved himself for the your guests too. What star babies we have!!

It's funny how when you have one bubba everyone wants to know when the next one is coming. Because we have a pigeon pair now, people assume we don't want anymore, that we got one of each, thats all we need. They are right in their assumptions by the way, i'm happy with 2....but still! lol!

Koby has settled into a night routine for now. He goes to sleep between 7-8pm. Wakes for a feed about 1-2am and then wakes again at 5am. He's usually up for a while after this feed, and DD wakes about 5.30am so i seem to be starting my days at 5am!

Makes for a long day. Sometimes i look at the clock and think...it's only 9.30am!! Surely it must be later.

Does anyone elses baby not like the car? Koby is fine half the time, but the other half he cries and cries and ends up working himself into hysterics, it's awful. I keep trying to see if the seat belt is hurting or something, but it doesn't seem to be that. I really hope he calms down soon, we are off to a christening next month, 4 hours away. I don't think we'd make it if he was crying the whole way!

[Flicka]

Just a quick one as about to give Kelsey her bath....

Jennasmum - You are not alone with the car thing. Some days Kelsey is an angel and others she just screams. DS keeps saying "She's hurting my ears" lol :laughing: . Anyway, DS used to scream as a baby and we found it stopped as soon as he was big enough to turn the car seat around. Maybe he just didn't like travelling backwards or maybe it made him car sick??? Who knows.

Gotta go - grizzly bubby

[mim1]

hi all!

tiredmummy ... hope your family is all getting better, especially your dd in hospital:hugs:

we're not being asked about more children too much - well we're not asked when we'll have more, but we are asked how many we want (which is 4 btw).

we've had a hectic week. went away overnight on Wednesday. josh had a screaming fit at night, but then settled and actually went for 9 hours between feeds for the first time! yeah! he wasn't asleep for half that time, but at least i didn't need to feed! He had a screaming fit again the next night (when we were home) and took 1 1/2 hours to settle. Spoke to the paed the next day and he was put back on mylanta after every feed, in addition to zantac. i hate giving him mylanta - it's so messy and you need to take the bottle, the eyedropper, a cloth nappy and spare clothes everywhere for each feed. Certainly makes breast feeding less convenient!

Anyway, we got home thursday night and then went away overnight again saturday morning. I was so tired on friday and it was hard work to get ready to go away again, but we needed to go.

I don't know how people fit in all their stuff for trips with more than one child! We have a small station wagon and it was fine when we went away on Wednesday cause we were going to my parents holiday house and didn't need the portacot, pram or bedlinen. But, we needed all that on the weekend, as well as all the stuff for josh (I ran out of clothes and cloth nappies on the first trip). We barely fit it all in for the weekend trip.

Josh's reflux still isn't good, despite the mylanta. He screamed for 3 hours last night - thankfully dh was able to be calm and work on relaxing josh as much as possible. The poor baby was exhausted and he'd fall asleep sitting up in dh's lap, then he'd have a little burp or his tummy would churn and he'd wake up screaming. Sometimes his cries were so weak cause he was so tired. I am due to ring his paed tomorrow, and i think he'll be going on gaviscon.

[SammyG]

Hels, I'm really ticked off with myself as I threw out some paperwork yesterday then realised one of the info sheets could have been written for Reece. Basically it was about Bubs who have their daily screaming hour despite everything being ok ie, fed, clean etc. Anyway the crux of it all was that Bubs at this age are going thru some massive mental development and some need to 'reboot' their whole system by crying it all out so they can cope with all the new stuff they are learning and experiencing. They need to do this roughly every 24hrs. I thought this made sense and you are coping really well with it anyway but still thought I'd try to pass it on! I take comfort in the fact that some crying is productive in it's own weird way!

We seem to be settling into a routine of last feed at 9-10pm. Up at 4am, then 7am and every 3-4hrs till the night feed again. I'm loving a bit of predictability finally! Michael is also becoming a little chatterbox with his range of grunts, coos and laughs.

Tiredmummy, hope you all feel loads better soon, how is your recovery after the birth going too?

Sugar, you looked lovely for the wedding, I love getting dolled up & getting the hair done. Before children I was a jeweller and got invited to a lot of weddings as a result of becoming friends with lots of my clients while doing their bridal jewellery. Was expensive buying the gowns but soooooo much fun!!

Charis, where do you get all your energy????? I get tired reading about all you get up to with H!

We are already talking about #3 but not till DS1 is almost in school. I would dearly love a little girl but 3 boys would be great too. Just a bit worried about the twin factor, it's very strong in my family on both my mum & dads sides! I will be almost 35 too pushing my chances up!

[Charis]

post hog here:wave:
Just to say Victoria that is such an awful thing they said to you, to say to a Mum, or really to anyone...All our bubs are 'eating to live'..certainly still little animals, despite the increasing smiles. Really hope you're all going as well as can be. :hugs: How is the sleeping going?

And to Freddie..welcome back fr Denmark..have you worked it out yet?? The fussiness/pulling/squirming? Well for me its state of mind, stopping the flow. .it would happen about once a day for me, but not consistent.MouseBrown said it Friday and I think I'd worked out how to stop it before, though not consciously. ie I think impossible to argue and b-feed at the same time. I guess why we look meditative doing it.

normal night after his mammoth 5hrs, 4.5 +3. (well for him, I should have gone to bed then too!)Happy day:wave:

Hi Mim1 gosh poor Josh!! I ll be one of those painfully useful people (like the ones who used to comment on our preg tums) and say what you're sure to already know: coffee, tomato, orange juice, chocolate, carbonated drinks all can give our bubs reflux.

[cate]

A few crazy days here for Audrey and myself. She's decided to have a new routine of snack, play, snack, sleep!!!!!! Driving me crazy...she won't take a full feed from boob or bottle and then wonders why she's hungry......grrrrr......... and sleep....well lets just say a cat nap is the limit during the day!

Hope everyone is going well...sorry to hear there are some sick bubbas.....hugs and kisses! And extra hugs and kisses for all the mums who are hanging in.....

I've been a bit down...don't know why because things have been going well.

DH has been so good....looked after Audrey so I could go to gym the other night for the first time!!! I did a step class thinking that it would be better than just working by myself in the gym.....you know getting the chance to actually be with other adults and make my brain work on the choreo!!! Well....felt fantastic...stuffed but great! Sweated like crazy ... it's my cardio that has suffered having bub....not too much muscle soreness which is great! Also he let me sleep on Friday night and he did feeds...and when I woke up from sleep in on Sunday he had done two loads of washing!!!! Makes me suspicious though....he probably wants to buy another car to play with!!!

It's great that various people are catching up!!! Brisbane mummies meeting this Friday....I think I'll pop over to Feb thread and let them know.

[cate]

Just had to do another quick post to show off new picture!

[bossoflatch]

good morning to all - just a quickie to let you all know that i changed my username from LEISA to bossoflatch - which means boss of latch (laurie -DH aleisa (me ) tayla - cameron and hayden hence that latch name ...

mim - with regards to reflux - tayla has been on the mylanta for some time now and sometimes it is just not enough - she started on zantac a week ago and it is the same with that - we started her on the karicare thickener after her feeds and that seems to make the difference... maybe you could try bubs on that - it is a little different to the gaivscon - as you can add it to their bottle -(not the ar formulas though as they are already thickened ) but i found this has been working for tayla ..

for the mums with bubs with reflux though- apparently their are other foods such as diary which can be really bad for some babies... but also take into account that food such as cabbage and onions can cause really bad wind in babies - which in turn can cause cramping for the bubs



sorry will catch up with everyone later today tring ti type one handed...

leisa

[sugar n spice]

sammyg thanks for your comment. i felt really pretty that day

[3Divas&me]

Hey there, again it has been a while between posts, so no personals, too much to catch up on.

I have been away for a few days. I went to Sydney, then down to the Southern Highlands for a christening. I nice time away but am really exhuasted now.

Bridget is 8 weeks tomorrow, and you know what that means....... NEEDLES!!:crying:

OOps, she is up again! Better go.

[Cordelia]

I've had such a lovely morning wtih Caitlin - she's been so alert and chatting away with me. And the smiles I've been getting at doing stupid things (lucky no one can see me) - she's so gorgeous!!

Our camera broke so I'm off to myer to pick up a new one (yay!) so I'm going to grab some sleeping bags from Target at the same time and try that out tonight - I'd be less worried about her ending up at the bottom of the bed with the blanket strangulating her.

RE: Next babies - I always assumed that I'd have a whole fleet of babies one after the other - but that was before I realised how much hard work it is!! ALthough, I'm starting to warm to the idea again now that Caitlin is getting a LOT easier to handle. We'll probably start trying when she's 18 months old or so.

Car thing: Caitlin HATES the car - she screams and screams which is why I am now giving her a dummy after 11 weeks of resisting. It was hard to see her so miserable - and now she's content I think it's worth it.

I hope Audrey settles down Cate.. it's so taxing when theyr'e like that! You feel like you never get a break.. (well you dont...!)

I'm off to the CHN this afternoon for her 6 week appointment (yes she's already 12 weeks... dont ask!!) I need to ask about her length of feeds seeing as since I started giving her a dummy her feeds have gone from 35-40 minutes to 15-20 minutes so either her sucking reflex has improved GINORMOUSLY or the dummy is wearing her sucking reflex out. I guess we'll see when we weigh her. Yay! I love having her weighed and seeing her progress :)

[SammyG]

Question for BF mums, how long do your bubs feed for?

Michael is almost 6weeks and is either getting super quick or is losing interest. Sometimes he feeds for 10mins 1st side but it's usually a little less (10 mins does not include when we have to stop and burp a couple of times, I think the flow is a little fast sometimes) and maybe 2-3mins on 2nd side. I have plenty of milk and can express up to 100mls in about 5-6minutes if he hasn't touched that side but wasn't sure if the expressing is an indicator of how much Michael is getting for a similar amount of time sucking !

[2s'nuff]

Afternoon girlies,

Might just be a quick one as TJ is in my arms trying to wake up.

Tabby...how's the routine going?
Cordelia...be patient with your DH. Maybe invest in some good headphones and/or earplugs:rolleyes: :laughing: .
Hels...:laughing: at the superglue. I was exactly the same after DD1. Took nearly three years before I was game enough to do it all again.
Flicka...it's the end of the line for kids for me. No matter what DH seems to want/think. I'm happily giving away the clothes TJ has grown out of.
Jennasmum...TJ seems to enjoy travelling by car. She only grizzles when I'm stopped at traffic lights. We're off to Bussleton (3.5 hours) in a weeks time, so hopefully she'll enjoy the ride.
Leisa...love the new name. Makes me think I need to get a bit creative with my name.

TJ awake, got to go. All is well in our house - got 6 straight hours of sleep last night.

Lisa

[2s'nuff]

Forgot to add. AF back visiting today...no wonder I've been a crabby b!@^# over the past few days:laughing: .

[Cat13]

I'm back! It's been probably 6 weeks since my last post and in that time we've packed up from Sydney, driven up to Townsville (via NSW central coast to visit the in-laws for a few days) and moved into our new place on 16th Feb. Have only just got the internet connected - was suffereing serious internet withdrawal. I use it for everything!

Obviously not possible to catch up on all the posts I've missed the last few weeks but I've skimmed and it's reassuring to know lots of others have been facing the same challenges. I've felt a bit alone with the whole mothering business since moving to a place where I don't know anyone and DH going back to work right after we moved in after being around 24/7 to help me until then.

Where we are at now is that at his 6 week check up Cameron weighed 4kg. Still low on the chart but a big gain on his 2.8kg birthweight. He was carrying on at the time (as he often does) and nearly bounced out of the scales and the nurse said she thinks I will have my hands full as she had never seen such determined behaviour in a 6 week old and it was more like a 6 month old. I hope she was exaggerating because she looked about 70 and would have seen a few baby's in her time!

Oh oh - I hear grizzling from the nursery. Now it's my usual dilemma. I don't think he will actually be hungry since only 2 hours since the last feed but when he wakes he gets cranky if a breast is not presented within a couple of minutes and is not easily distracted.....it's gone quiet again so maybe a false alarm. Fingers crossed he sleeps at least another hour and then I can happily commence his nighttime feed play bath sleep routine.

That's all I have time to write for now but I give advance warning that I have 6 weeks of questions, concerns and stories all stored up to get off my chest!

[mamabearof3]

Sam Ariane is only taking about 10 minutes to feed now too, less at night and early in the morning when there is copious milk there and a little longer in the early evening.

She's been unsettled the last couple of days when I would normally get online so I just can't keep up at the moment. But on the balancing side she then settles and sleeps 6-7 hours then another 4-5 hours so I'm happy for unsettledness for a couple of hours

[Tabby]

Welcome back Cathy, good to see you and look forward to seeing more of you again

Jennasmum: Katie hasnt been too bad in the car as yet, longest trip was to mousebrowns, about 30 mins and was great the way there but grizzly on the way home. in laws are situated an hr away and as yet we havnt visited them at theirs as I really don't want to be sitting in the back the whole way, dp has long legs so rather squishy behind him.

MouseB: Things are still great routine wise with Katie. She really is such a good baby, have been very blessed this time round. Ive been back on depo injection for some weeks, doesn't look like ill be getting any AF ( usually spot first one then none ) so rather happy about that. Funny tho when AF due I get the crabby ***** still :laughing:

Mim: Hope you get the reflux sorted soon :hugs:
Felt saddened by how you say he gets so tired and weak crys from it, :fingerscrossed: the gaviscon works.

Am thinking of changing Katie to the Heinz milk, half the price of s26gold! I know I shouldn't change but money woes as yous all know and would be a big help. anyone use Heinz ones?

Not feeling so great today , not sure whats up
Woke 3 am with excruciating tummy pains, went after an hr, felt like food poisoning coming, fought off the wanting to :barf:. Then woke am with the worst headache of my life! Felt like my skull was being crushed. maybe a migraine?? never had one before..
So now I just feel drained. Katies almost asleep so a hot shower on the agenda soon.

DP has 3 interviews lined up tomorrow morning! Surely someone will cut us a break with all these interviews.

Hi to everyone else
Lots of sleep vibes everyone!!!
xx
Vicki

[freddie]

hi folks, we're back from 5 days away and there's so much to catch up on!

Firstly, good luck for the interviews tomorrow Tabby - really hope you get a break soon.

On the car discussion, I was really worried about our trip as its 450km each way and Hamish often screamed in the car. I think he seemed to be getting a bit more used to it the week before the trip but we'd still only done 25 minutes max. at one time. Anyway, we left at 7am after his first feed and he slept for 2.5 hours then we stopped for a feed and kept on, he slept another hour and we stopped again. He only really lost it about 20 minutes from our destination and we stopped for about 5 minutes for a cuddle and settle. Same thing on the way home which was just fantastic.
We spent the time with my mum and had a lovely weekend with mum and my brother fighting for cuddles and play time - I hardly got a look in! Hamish was fantastic and was trooped about, sleeping in the pram on walks, in the car, in my arms at lunch....and then he did his first 8 hour sleep last night. :smiliedance: :smiliedance: he was also self-settling really well. Maybe the wonderful cool weather after the disgusting Perth heat. Lets see what happens tonight.

Glad the Perth meet seemed to go well, I'll try and make the next one for sure.
kx

[Lukeandmattsmum]

Howdy everyone,

Well the dreaded AF returned this weekend:crying: obviously i am one of the unlucky ones who gets them while BF.

I brought a pea pods nappy today and it seems to work really well. Still looking into some other brands and comparing prices.


Sammy G Matthew's feeds range anywhere from 5mins to 1/2hr. Which can get very frustrating sometimes. At the moment i feel like my boob is constantly hanging out.

Matthew is a bit of a shocker in the car also. I usually have to time it that he has a really good feed and burp then in the capsule and go straight away. Sometimes this works other times he will scream the whole time. I try the dummy and he just spits it out. I remember DS1 was the same and when he got big enough to turn around he was fine, so hopefully this is the case.

Well i am off to bed as we are supposed to be going to Australia Zoo tomorrow..

Also looking forward to meeting Brissie mums on Friday.

[mim1]

Sam ... Josh can pretty much empty my breast in 5 minutes now. A far cry from a month ago when it was closer to 20 minutes. My suggestion is to stop Michael feeding on the first side after 5 minutes and then swap sides. You can always offer the first side again if you think he's hungry after 5 minutes on the 2nd side. It works well with Josh - it keeps him interested and means I don't end up having to express cause he's only fed on 1 side!

[Jenko]

liesa - love the new username. I've been trying to come up with a new one too, but i'm not feeling very creative. Everytime i think i've decided on one i change my mind. :confused:

tabby - good luck to DH with the job interviews, really hope he gets one. :fingerscrossed:

SammyG - Koby is taking much less time to feed these days too. Thank god! It was getting quite tiring with those hour long feeds. He can usually finish one side in about 10mins and then i burp offer the same side for another minute or two and then offer the other side for 5-10minutes. All up he is feeding for 20-30mins, with burps and nappy change. Middle of the night feed is the quickest - 20mins all done! Boobies nice and full. I do a few cluster feeds early evening and leave him on a bit longer then.

mousebrown and lukeandmattsmum - bummer about AF returning so soon. Koby is 6 weeks today and i'm still having light bleeding. I hope it stops soon.

BTW mousebrown i love your username, don't change it!

Glad to hear Koby is not the only grizzle bum in the car. Hopefully he gets better as he gets more used to it.

I've started to try and let Koby self settle himself a bit more. I still give him a rock and a cuddle before a sleep and put him down. If he stirs i pat/sshh/rock him in the bassinette...and it WORKS!! I can't believe he settles so quickly and easily. DD was a shocker and would just get louder if i tried to do that to her as a bub.

I had a great day yesterday. It was the first day i felt really calm and i feel like i'm getting used to looking after 2 kiddies. I was also timing when and how long Koby was awake for. An hour and a half awake and K is usually ready for sleep again. He seems to be going a bit longer between feeds too. Lets hope today runs as smoothly...lol (hope i didn't jinx myself :eek: )

[SammyG]

Thanx everyone regarding the BF, I am feeling better about it now I know it sounds normal. I will get Michael weighed again tomorrow and know for sure if everything is going to plan. He just seems so fussy and windy through some feeds, completely happy once burped ans away from the scary booby. Meanwhile I am covered in milk

[jacstar31]

have had a big long weekend here! Geoffrey used to be really good in the car, but lately he has started crying a bit - if I don't time it right, as in feed and go, then its no good. he won't take a dummy either no matter how much i have tried!!

I am usually feeding him about 10-15 mins on each side, bit longer before bed and usually do cluster feeds then.

I am starting mother's group today, so very excited about that, even though Geoffrey is now 12 weeks old, there has been so many babies in the area that I couldn't start the group until now!

[Tabby]

Thanks for the good luck wishes. :fingerscrossed: as things are going to get desperate soon :(
I HATE CentreLink! :banghead: another 3-4 weeks before DP can get any, am trying to survive on $370 a week!!!
argh no wonder ppl lose it at CL offices

Sounds like you had a great time away Freddie and good on Hamish for being an angel in the car AND a 8hr sleep woohoo !
Hope you can make the next Perth meet too.

Cheeki: :hugs: for lily and hope her cold heals fast. wind relief, I just use infants friend now, not sure if it really helps the wind but great for helping her keep regular. Katie has slight reflux so I also feed her more upright, seems to have helped the wind and throw ups less. Am about to change Katie to hienz formula tomorrow , half the price of s26 and s26 is known for constipation, which she gets if I dont keep an eye on it. Am hoping it may even suit her better.

jennasmum: nice that koby's self settling more, makes a huge difference doesn't it? ds2 was same as your dd. So is a blessing to have a much easier bub.

jackstar31: have fun at the mothers group!

Nothing new here, same-o same-o
other than trying to keep myself out of a very depressive state, not easy.
am so lucky have all of yous to let it out. It helps xxx
Hope everyone had a good night.

xx
Vicki

[Jenko]

Oh see i knew i'd jinx myself!! :banghead:

It's only 10.20am and i have put Koby to sleep about 6 times, he either wakes up or DD wakes him up. I was putting him to sleep in the bassinette as i'm trying not to use the fisher price swing all the time.

Well, guess where he is now...yep, in the swing. Sound alseep and happy.

Ok, so next sleep i will put him in the bassinette....:confused: :rolleyes: :laughing: hmmm not really funny actually.

[tired*mummy]

Morning everyone,
Thanks for all the :hugs: again! Things are starting to pick up here. Sierra is better, not 100% but a little happier and taking full feeds now. Last night she slept for 7 and 1/2 hrs straight, which was great. She must have needed it. She has been quite grizzly, not crying but just vocal and letting us know that she isnt feeling well... its actually quite cute. I'm feeling a little better, just have to get rid of my blocked nose now lol. DD2 (Ally) is still in hospital but she is alot better. Still on oxygen but only on a low amount and it hasnt needed to be increased for the last 24hrs so hopefully today they will try a wean her off it completely and she will be home soon. She needs to be off oxygen for 24hrs before she comes home tho. It will be good when she's home, its gets really stressful when shes in hospital and DH has to take time off work & everything else still has to be done. Oh well... we are all getting better so thats the main thing.

Sam - I'm recovering quite well from the c-section. Havent had any problems so far. A few things i've been worried about or things i thought were abit odd i've been told are just normal. Like my scar and just above it is completely numb... i thought that was weird but apparently its not, and sometimes my tummy above my scar feels like its burning inside when i touch it but apparently thats quite normal too. I have my appoinment with my OB on Saturday so i'm sure he will tell me if something isnt right but i'm sure its all ok
Tabby - I really hope your DH interviews go well. Sending you lots of :hugs: as i'm sure it is very stressful at times.

About the bubs in car question... Sierra is great in the car. Sometimes she gets upset but its sometimes because she startles herself or she doenst have a blanket on her. So i just put a blanket over her and tuck it around her and shes happy. If shes really upset cause shes hungry i just give DD1 her bottle and she feeds her lol. I only do this if i'm stuck in traffic or something and cant pull over.
And as for having more kids... No Way :no: I love babies so much and i would love to have more babies but it gets harder when they get older. They are harder to control, get to sleep, feed and they talk back and dont do as they are told :laughing: i think 3 is definately enough for me and i want to be able to give them what they need without having to struggle to give it to them. But then again to be honest i didnt want anymore after DD1 lol... and look what happened. I'm very glad i did have more now tho!

Well should be off and get a shower and some housework done while Sierra is sleeping. Hope everyone and all bubs are well.
Take care

[Cordelia]

tired*mummy you're supposed to say it gets EASIER as they get older!! You've just given me an anxiety attack!! ARGHhharghgh...

[tired*mummy]

Cordelia :laughing: Sorry... some things do get easier.

[mim1]

I need help. i've posted in the reflux section, but hopefully someone here can help. Josh has to take gaviscon now to help his reflux, but it's 30ml of liquid and it's meant to be given AFTER a breast feed. I already give him 30ml of liquid (8ml zantac + 20ml EBM) 3 times a day BEFORE a feed. How am I meant to make this work? How am I meant to work out when he's got enough room left for the gaviscon and won't want more milk afterwards? He feeds for 5 - 10 minutes each side, and it varies each feed and I can't predict how long he is going to need.

This whole thing is distressing. Of course his crying and pain are distressing too, but thanks to the zantac it's now only once every few days (albeit for hours on end). I find it hard enough to make time to express 60ml a day for the zantac and make sure I've got the EBM/zantac bottles ready to go for a feed. Now, I need to make up gaviscon each feed (it has to be immediately before being given). It makes it so much harder to go out!

Sorry for the whinge. Dh is in meetings all day and can't talk and I'm feeling pretty overwhelmed by it all.

[2s'nuff]

I need help. i've posted in the reflux section, but hopefully someone here can help. Josh has to take gaviscon now to help his reflux, but it's 30ml of liquid and it's meant to be given AFTER a breast feed. I already give him 30ml of liquid (8ml zantac + 20ml EBM) 3 times a day BEFORE a feed. How am I meant to make this work? How am I meant to work out when he's got enough room left for the gaviscon and won't want more milk afterwards? He feeds for 5 - 10 minutes each side, and it varies each feed and I can't predict how long he is going to need.

:hugs: sometimes think these things (babies)should come with written instructions.
Don't know much about giving gaviscon, but is it really after the end of the feed, or just once he's got something in his tummy (ie not on an empty stomach)?

Why do I always remember the important stuff once I've logged off:banghead: . When we saw the HCN a couple of weeks ago she said TJ should grow out of the nightly unsettled period between 8-12 weeks. So far the past few nights have been better so :fingerscrossed: that we're nearly over it. Hope this news gives some of you a light at the end of the tunnel.

Cheeki...I use Karicare Gold formula and am not ahving any problems (constipation or otherwise). I do put in 160ml of water though rather than the suggested 150ml - whether or not this actually makes any difference is beyond me.

Have a great day
Lisa

[tired*mummy]

Mim - :hugs: Dont know if this will help but when DD1 had reflux the dr told me to try the gaviscon that come in a powder form that you could just add to the bottles of milk, so then you didnt need to worry about trying to give it to them after a feed when they are full up. It actually worked quite well. Just an idea for you.

[Flicka]

So much to catch up on since yesterday.

Kelsey had her needles today. Took DH to hold her as it really upsets me. She screamed and screamed until she had a boob in her mouth again. She has settled well since then and is having a big nap at the moment in the air con. Poor little girl!!!

On the subject on boobs....
Sammy - Kelsey has always only fed for about 10mins each feed. CHN just thinks she is a very effective feeder and doesn't need longer. She will only take one side each feed even tho I offer her both. My (.)(.)'s have just gotten used to it and I don't need to express the other side or do anything.
Cate - Sorry to hear you were feeling a bit down but good news you got to the gym.:hugs:
Tabby - Don't know much about formula as have never used it but saw a bit on one of the morning shows - an expert was on saying that there is no difference between the formulas and that you should just buy the cheapest one as they are the same (?????). Also sorry you are feeling down. Try and keep your chin up hun...:hugs: . Hope DP has some luck at the interviews. You deserve to cut a break.
Jennasmum - I have also been feeling more confident coping with the 2 kids. Feel like we are all getting into the swing of things now with a reasonable routine. I feel so proud of my little family!!
Sorry to all those ladies who have had a visit from AF :thumbsdown: .
I got my script for an IUD and referral back to gyn to have it put in. Feeling a bit weird about it but won't have to worry about contraception for 5 years. I s'pose I can just have it removed if it doesn't suit me.

Lastly...
:hugs: for Mim. I can't offer any advice to you but just wanted to let you know that I understand how you are feeling. Sometimes it can all seem so overwhelming and I agree - these little rugrats should have come with a user manual.
Take care
Flicka xx

[Hels*Bels]

I don't log on for a couple of days and have pages of posts to plough thru lol.

Sam - Thanks for the info about the screaming fits, I had read the same thing somewhere too. He seems to snap out of it after about an hour so we are pretty comfortable dealing with it because we know that some babies can do this for no real reason (other than brain development).

Cheeki - I am using Nan Gold HA formula which doesn't seem to give him alot of wind. The only thing that settles his tum is 1ml of Mylanta, he has this about every second day, that's all he needs.

Reece is unpredictable in the car, sometimes he sleeps and sometimes he cries. Really depends on what time of day it is and what mood he is in :rolleyes:

I am expecting AF back in the next 2 weeks as I am ovulating right now. Amazing how the body can think it's ready for another bub so soon, I'm still healing up down there!!

Had a horrible day yesterday thanks to MIL. We went over for lunch, she had too much to drink and over the course of the day told me I was feeding at the wrong times and I wasn't heating his milk enough. So she heated his bottle up too much and of course he threw most of it back up. Then she told me something was wrong with him because of the screaming at night. Finally, I mentioned to my SIL that he would go to daycare 1 day a week and MIL totally lost it over that. My parents were not impressed with her.
I ended up in tears when we got home, I really don't need this negativity when I am struggling with PND :banghead:
We are going to tell her that we do not want any advice unless we ask for it and we do not want to discuss the management of our baby anymore. If she can't bite her lip in future then I won't take him over there anymore, simple as that.
Anyone else getting sick of being told what to do with their bub?

On top of that, poor Reece has got thrush in his mouth so the Dr has prescribed some drops. He also has a sore throat and has lost his voice so he sounds very croaky. He had his first unsettled night last night. So lots of cuddles from mummy today :hugs:

[SammyG]

Hels, nip th inlaws in the bud now regarding any advice. I am copping it about DS1 & toilet training at the moment. If they are so desperate to have him trained they can follow him for a week, cleaning up messes and putting him on the potty every 15mins. I am not ready to do it at the moment with a 6week old. Anyway with all my inlaws advice, I pretend to listen, nod and then go off and do my own thing. I learnt years ago not to actively disagree as then they are like dogs with a bone and just won't let it go. Sorry, my sympathy for your situation has led me to vent about my silly inlaws.

[Charis]

Commiserations SammyG and Hels..and Tabby and anyone with advice issues. I reckon (for me) its not nec the advice, its when it is given..when I'm stressed or Hunter is tired or crying or anything but a good time to suggest someone changes their life!! Its so exhausting!!! Oh and not inlaws..just laws, but also couldn't do without them.

SammyG yes I know what you mean about our exploits being tiring. Sunday was great and good for me and H, compared to today, which was awful. Too much work and he wasn't getting off to sleep in between. Poor bubby and we just made it to the city to register his birth and home again, so I surcommed to JUST HOLD ME AND PUT ME TO SLEEP MUMMY crys. Today wasn't a self settling day. (Somehow have forgotten how to spell surcommed!)

Oh gosh jabs tomorrow..maybe I'll see if I can make it later..

Mostly fine in the car, but yes, like Jacstar its all about timing.

Sorry about the reflux and the arrivals of AFs also.

Glad Ally/DD is on the mend TiredMummy. Also hope Tabby + her DH had some luck today. :fingerscrossed:

I'm stuffed! Better use this time to refuel:wave:

[Lukeandmattsmum]

Well what a day. We made it to Australia Zoo today and Luke seemed to enjoy it, but he tired out pretty quickly and was asleep by lunch and ended up missing half of it. i took heaps of photos of all the animals to show him, so he will probably enjoy them just as much. It was a bit difficult with a new born as he wouldn't settle in his pram and we ended up carrying him around most of the time. I think he was getting hot in his pram. Thankfully he was good in the car both ways.

Matthew has been a little terror the last couple of nights, by the time i feed him and put him back to bed takes me about and hour or so and then he wakes up an hour or two later.:banghead: I don't know what is going on, just as i thought he was getting a little routine going it just all goes out the window.

Anyway i better be off to bed incase i have another bad night.

[Tabby]

Flicka: :hugs: to Kelsey for the jabs, hope shes settling ok tonight.
That was my thinking on the formula too.
Never know maybe it will agree with her better reflux wise, as she only has it mildly, I chose hienz nurture, no gold this time just normal in hoping it may also suit her better too. special for $12 big difference to s26 gold $21.

Hels: :hugs: to you for the outlaws hassle, like you said thats the last thing you need! Try not to take it to heart hun, your doing a damn fantastic job! No-one knows OUR babys like we do xxx
I do the same as SammyG, nod and pretend to listen then go do your own thing anyhow, thats my way also. So far its worked.
Hope the drops clear his thrush xx

Hugs for Hunter tomorrow!!! :hugs:
rest well Charis xx

Lukeandmattsmum: :fingerscrossed: for a better night for you tonight.

Nothing new here. no news job yet, but plenty of interviews done and now waiting. heres hoping

Plenty of sleep vibes to all mums & bubs!
xxx
Vicki

[Strawberry_Shortcake]

Good Evening Ladies,

Charis - :hugs: to you and hunter for his needles tomorrow.

TiredMummy - Glad to hear DD is getting better.

Hels – :hugs: So sorry to hear you having problems with the in-laws. My mother tries to give me motherly advice and I do what SammyG does pretend to listen, nod and then go off and do my own thing.

Flicka – :hugs: to Kelsey I hope the needles did hurt her to much today.

Tabby - good luck to DH with the job interviews, hope he gets a job real soon.

jacstar31 – How did your mothers group go today?

Not much is happening here. Talon’s been in bed since 7.30pm. As for travelling in the car, Talon is usually good. He’s finally starting to get over his sinus. AF has returned here aswell. As for any more babies yep when ever it happens. Anyway I’m going to finish the housework while I have some spare time up my sleeve.

sleep vibes to you all
:wave: Kel

[bossoflatch]

hi to all-

mim - do you mean .8 of a ml - 8mls is an awful lot of zantac - tayla is on .8ml at the moment but apparently she needs to go up to 1.2 mls as it is weight related....

she has it three times a day - as it is such a little amount i slip it in with a syringe and then boobie feed her - it does taste horrible but it boobie soothes her quickly.... than she has the breast from about 5 - 15 mins each side and still has either 30-60 ebm or ar formula depending how she settles she has mylanta after that - usually she needs it before a sleep so she can settle and i can lie her down... i would only assume you are giving bubs .8ml - are you able to syringe it in as that would save you 30mls or so???

also if you get stuck - we got her on the karicare food thickener - has no taste to it and you can make it into a paste and we dip her dummy in it and give it to her it probably takes about 10-15 times of us dipping it and puttng it in her mouth but she gets a fair bit and as it said as she can't taste it she just keep taking the dummy - this works a treat to.

:hugs: to you though - i know it can be so confusing on what to do -

[aries_moon]

morning ladies :wave:

have had a busy few days so not posting much.......
CHARIS good luck with Hunter's needles today, I reckon it's harder on us than it is for bub's, i'm really dreading taking X in for his!!!

TABBY hope you get some good news asap re: dp's work, it's awful being stressed and caring for little bubs isn't it.........also, not sure if you said katie still fits into 0000, but if she does i have some very cute sleepers and a few other things (some 000's too) that X never even got to wear, so if you would like them, PM me your address and I will happily get them to ya!!

HELS oh my my can so relate on the MIL thing, but yep like everyone else says, listen like you care, then turn round and do just what you were doing before! lol

TIREDMUMMY hope things are on the up with your precious DD :hugs: to you and your family

No AF for me yet, and hopefully not anytime soon as am bf'ing. Question though, I was given the minipill but have no idea when to start taking it if no AF?!?!? i really know nothing about this pill so if anyone can help me out that would be great! TA!

same ol round here on the X front, alternating settled and unsettled days. bought him a swing yesterday which he seems to like, and also got me a boob pump, such fun that is! ha CHN mothers group starts tomorrow, so that should be interesting.......prob not as good as our online bubhub group though:D well i'm off now have a great day all

[Cordelia]

Hi everyone,

Had an awesome night last night - 10-7!! YAY!! I feel refreshed!! I blowdried my hair, GOT DRESSED, had a leisurely shower and I'm actually considering some makeup. (likelikehood of actually applying it is quite low)

I was feeling pretty down after my mothers group yesterday. There's some pretty OTT characters who seem to be on a mission to make themselves feel better by belittling everything you do and talking their methods up. And on EVERY issue - as if the casual coffee morning is a battle ground - except I'm always the victim!! (I know that's probably my perception) Liiiike... the use of a dummy (I very rarely give Caitlin a dummy because she doesn't want/need it - I think that's a noble thing and I don't mind if other babies have them for most of the time - that's a personal choice), whether we went public or private (I was the only public patient there), whether we'd prefer another caesarean or a VBAC (the **** they were spinning THERE!), down to the horrors of your ob not giving you a scan at every appointment. (Well, how are you going to know if the baby's OK?!?) well.. err...

woops I just had a splurge - I'm just amazed at how nasty these women can be. I know that they must be insecure in themselves but .. ARGH ARGH ARGH

Aries - I just started taking mine at whatever time. (the minipil that is) it says it takes 48 hours (ie. 3 doses) to be effective on the packet... hope that helps!!!

Inlaws - don't you feel like you have to start making a stand early on?? Like, if you let them getting away with something now then you're opening the door with everything later on... it's so hard!! Fortunately, mine are being ok (even tho they are completely obsessed with Caitlin) and keeping opinions to themselves but I'm always on guard READY TO FIRE!

Tabby: How did the interviews go? I hope that you get some good news from them.

i'm sorry this has been a self centred post!! Hopefully you'll get a laugh out of the immature mums at my group!! I have to run as we've organised a pram walk (yay - more stimulating conversation)

[Tabby]

Aries moon: have pmed you. :thumbsup:
Hope you have fun mothers group.

Cordelia: Sorry to hear mothers group wasn't so great. :hugs:
Reasons like that are why I cannot be bothered with them, prefer to stick to ppl I know and also ours of course, but then again I felt I already knew yous too. Cant wait for the next one, felt so good after...hmm think I need to get out more?
No replys from interviews as yet :(
There is a good chance for end week yes, the company is the same as before and have multiple openings so :fingerscrossed: . he said it seemed to go well.

nothing new here again
Katies still 8-3 and 330 - 7 but today it was 330 - 8 and now shes back again after almost 2 hrs up playing/feeding.
love the mornings with her those smiles are just huge and plenty of them!

will log back later see how everyone is
hope everyones night was ok.
xx
Vicki

[Charis]

Hi !!
Gosh the worst thing about a routine, when it goes, it goes all to pieces. Poor H didn't get enough sleep yesterday just slept and ate a few times before bedtime..which somehow was then out by an hour..no bath for the first time, then woke an hour earlier during the night and this morning too. Crikes, I'm a mess. And am sure H is wondering what happened to his mostly stable world.

But is awesome to read about Caitlin, good for you Cordelia:smiliedance: I meant to reply to yr v funny and true to us all 'went out and realised hadn't brushed hair' post a while ago..I do all my 'beauty routine':laughing: in the car. Sorry to hear about yr MothersGroup, maybe its just one or two who stimulate the rest. Hugs! Also to make you feel not alone, I was public, don't have judgement on dummies, keep meaning to buy one! Scanning every appt, what a luxury, I was happy with my gorgeous midwifes too! You're doing great Cordelia, don't join in their upmanship..though bet they haven't gone swimming yet!

Hels I know we're all trying to be helpful, but tis v hard to listen to IL advice when yr stressed anyhow..I reckon tears were prob the best response and makes them realise the lines they're crossing. I do personally wish there was a middle ground between 'handling it' and tears. :hugs:

Aries all the best for yr mothers group, starting tomorrow. Mine is really nice, completely different to bubhub, but nice all the same. I also have a mini-pill script, but unlikely to do anything with..I asked yr question, you start it at anytime (re no AF), but have a 3hr window of taking it each day.

Lovely Tabby about the smiles and the long sleeps, smiles are so beautiful!!

Thanks all about the needles, I'm dreading it!

[bossoflatch]

SO - here i am reading everyones post - and then i realised i hardly every put in personals not that i don't care :eek:

i read everyones post and think OMG that is so me!! and then i keep reading and think that someone else is writing my post>>>

IL are the pits - i am soo over them
DH - bubs doesn't need another feed - she just got off the boobies
mothers groups- can really stink unless of course bub hub mums have organised it ;)
routines are great - until of course they are broken -- which i shouldn't complain - yesterday she had a shocker of a day - wouldn't sleep all day - but then she slept from 10pm until 8 am this morning :cool: i even had to wake her just to feed her before taking the older kids to school...
doing the deed - don't even look this way!!! or that way for a matter!!!
reflux - poor babies that suffer both the chucky and the silent - soo much pain!!!

and then of course there is SLEEP or lack of it !!! Tayla slept from 10-8 but of course i had to wake up to express coz of such a long sleep!!! so what sleep !!!!

so i have to take tayla to get her needles in the next few days... has anyone gotten the rotavirus jabs??? i hear they are about $110 and you can get about $50 back from medibank ?? has any had any side effects???

take care all - going to nap :sleeping: tayla is exhaused from yesterday she was in so much pain - and her medication was wearing off sooner now - i think the zantac needs to be increased....

leisa

[jacstar31]

LOVED my parents group yesterday!!! have to call it parents group as one of the dads came, which was great, he added another dimension to the group and his wife is going to come to alternate weeks as they are both working and taking it in turns.

Cordelia - I can relate to you about one girl who was a quite a bit younger than the rest of us, not that there is anything wrong with being young, her immaturity was coming out majorly though - with 'hogging' the group space and constantly talking and/or interrupting other people!!! hmmm frustrating, the group is facilitated and she was doing a great job to keep her on track....oh well, perhaps she just needed to get all that out!

quite amazing that 3 of us in the group had babies 3 weeks early and one born same day as Geoffrey! Its great having people closer to home to get to know and chat as well.

Hels - sorry to hear about your inlaws, I get sick of people's advice too! although not from MIL - she is fantastic!

at the moment, I have sooo many people telling me - you have lost too much weight - you are too skinny!!! does that mean i was too fat before? why do people always need to comment? btw - I have lost a fair bit of weight, mainly from breastfeeding and i also started a new healthy eating plan, this is mainly to do with my arthritis and making sure that it doesn't come back again. my DH is a naturopath and we are both eating differently to what we have been and I feel wonderful!!!

[SammyG]

Cordelia, Sorry your MG was not the best. From what I and other friends have exprienced they can be very hit & miss. 6 of our original 12 still keep in touch and of those 1 has become a very close friend. On the other hand a friend got severely depressed and left hers after being given the guilts for returning to work (how else does a mortgage get paid?)

I love Bub Hub, so may women to support each other no matter what choices we all make, and such a pool of experiences to call upon when we don't recognise something on our own!

Figured out what I was doing wrong with BF, Michael doesn't like to be restricted in my arms anymore and is much better kicking back on a pillow to feed. Back to a solid 5-15mins sucking at a time instead of 1min of sucking, 2mins screaming, 1min sucking etc. Nappies already feel heavier!!!

Michael really knows how to make messes with DH, last night did the biggest poo in bath just before due to finish. Whole bath turned mustard yellow so we had to start all over again!

[Hels*Bels]

Charis - Good luck with the needles today :fingerscrossed:

Tabby - I hope you have some good news re the interviews soon. The clothes are on their way to you too.

I couldn't go to my mother's group today because DH needed to use my car for work. He had an accident in his van last week so it is being fixed. I am stuck at home today and Reece is very unsettled due to having thrush (I think). Plus I gave him some paracetemol drops and that makes him sick up his bottle, so I might have to try nurofen next time.
Not very happy campers in this house today :thumbsdown: . Plus I feel really bored, I have alot of things to do but can't get them done!!

[Flicka]

Thanks for all of you thinking of Kelsey having her needles. Poor bubby was a bit unsettled yesterday evening. I thought it may have been from the jabs but then heard a BIG rumble in her nappy and.......well lets just say she 'worked' things out......and it came out with such force that DH had poo all over his shirt!!!!:laughing:
Anyway, she is back to her smiley little self today. She has been sleeping really well at night (touch wood). Usually goes from about 8pm-4am which is fantastic. The last few nights I have found time for treadmill, reading and knitting. Perhaps I should be doing the ironing instead????
Hels - Can realte to the outlaw prob. I like the advice from Aries moon "listen like you care" and then do whatever you like. After all you are his mum. My MIL told me I should take DS for a haircut or he will start looking like a girl ( what a load of rubbish - his hair isn't even long). So, on principle I am now not taking him for a haircut just to annoy her - hee hee.
Bossoflatch - Kelsey had the rotavirus (it is an oral dose) and it cost $124. Got about $50 back from MBF.
Also, Hels, on the subject of panadol and nurofen.....I found nurofen to be very harsh on DS when he was a baby and it would make him puke.
Anyway, better go and hang out the washing while Kelsey is sleeping. Take care ladies.

[cate]

Hels I so hear you on the outlaws.....my mil is convinced that Audrey is always cold....even when is 35deg outside!!!!

We moved Aud out of our room last night and into her cot!!!! We woke at 2:30 waiting for her to wake up and she didn't until 5:30!!!! So excited!! Now we'll just see if it was a oneoff!

For all the good sleep she had she's being difficult today! Just a whinger.....big walk in the pram was the only thing that put her to sleep! Oh well....we shall all keep battling on!

[mim1]

leisa ... I do mean 8ml of zantac - it's the effervescent tablet, mixed with water, rather than the zantac syrup which is more concentrated.

I've given up on the gaviscon. Josh seems worse on it and feeding was just too much of a hassle. The reason I asked for him to go on it was cause of 3 screaming fits in a week. Each of them was related to a different sort of day (when we were away) and so maybe it was the different routine that set his reflux off and it won't recur. I'm going to try him off it til I see the paed next week (will keep going with the zantac). I tried for a day.

cars ... josh usually loves the car and falls asleep really quickly.

needles ... josh had his today. he was very unimpressed when he was given them, but settled quite quickly. he's grizzling at the moment, but he's been awake for the most part of 4 hours and will hopefully fall asleep soon. he's on my lap now ... hope you all have a good day!

[bossoflatch]

sorry about the confusion mim!!!

you poor thing !!! are you able to try bubs on the concentrate??? much easier to administer but tastes horrible??? i hope you get some more releif with your peadiatrician appt !!!


it is really trial and error with these littles one - i never know with bubs what is wrong - she just seems to be in soo much pain during the day.. yet she sleeps great at night :confused:

[Tabby]

Thanks Hels
Hope the day got better for you :hugs:

Flicka: Glad Kelsey wasn't too unsettled by the needles. yay for nice sleeps at nights.

Cate: Katie slept longer once in her cot, so hopefully not a one off for you and many more to come.

mim: :hugs: for josh, hope hes settled ok by now.
also hugs for you too and hope things work out better soon re the reflux.

Mouse: Looks like chn was right regards settling age, have noticed quite a few bubs here are now settling longer nights and most would be about that age range now?

speaking of their ages, cannot believe how fast this 10 weeks has gone! Soon Katie will be 3 months old!:eek:

I'm still a little concerned my c scar, am still getting stinging pains on the right, what feels like internally. May have go gp get checked if still there next week, the place where hurts is where the infection I was admitted for was the worst...So hopefully is just taking longer because of previous infection.

might have to grab a mummy nap while shes asleep again.
take care
Vicki

[kewlchicmum]

Hello everyone:wave:
I hope everyone and there bubs are doing ok and that your bundles of joy are being bundles of joy mmm well we Lachlan and myself have just had our 6 week check up and he is great Dr says all is good for him so far we have now got a app with the neurology clinic at PMH next week my DH had to go back to work and we could not make it for when he is home but :fingerscrossed: every thing is going to be ok will keep you posted. It's a little scary but I would like to know if there is any thing wrong so we know what we are up for.

[Lukeandmattsmum]

Hi everyone, well we had another bad night Matthew was up every couple of hours so i ended up giving in and put him into bed with us just so i could get a bit of sleep. I hope i haven't started something bad.
We will just have to see how tonight goes i suppose.

BOSSOFLATCH I always find i don't do personals to much because everytime i start typing i forget who wrote what. I think i need to start taking notes so i know who to reply what to.:rolleyes:

MIM1 :hugs: to you and Josh i hope he recovers from his needles ok.

INLAWS well i am lucky in this department my MIL just keeps to herself and never tells me what to do or not what to do. If she or anyones else did though i would just shrug them off and continue what i am doing anyway, unless it is a good suggestion of course.

TABBY :fingerscrossed: on hubby's job interviews, hopefully someone will give you guys a break soon.

I haven't gone to a mother's group yet but was looking at going for my DS1 to interact with a few more kids, hopefully i will get to one soon,

Work is anyone going back to work soon or at all? I work in an outside school hours care and was looking at going back for a couple of hours for two days. But i also got offered my old job back (as a nanny) for one full day. Now i don't know what one to do. My heart is always in the nannying, but out of convenience the OSHC suits me better. ARGH decisions decisions:confused: . Money wise a will probably earn the same amount in one day as i would in a couple of days.

Anyways enough rambling from me. Hope everyone has a good night sleep.

[Charis]

Thanks for the needle thoughts, again, it was ok, well wasn't, but somehow became perfectly timed midway though feeding, so the poor little honey was placated:smiliedance: Hope Kelsey and Josh continue well after theirs today. H is v hot and it does say 1in4 for fever. So am just monitoring his temp and feeding whenever he wants. Buffet-Mum. (as they recommend)

I had an arvo that was terrible for me. Somehow didn't have time for lunch. Ended up in tears through a call from a client, during the call !!!! asking why his building work wasn't finished. Bloody hard work. I am working as hard as I can (when H sleeps/feeds) but will not and cannot prioritise work over him! One of the hardest bits is/was being v teary and not having anyone who understands. My besty is walking in Tassie.., Mum would try to fix it with advice and H's Dad would make it worse..and in that realised he's not even a friend.:crying: Lots of other friends but don't want to:ecomcity: there..so thank goodness for bubhub..even if you don't read it, cos its too long :)

Others having hard times too I know.
Hels v sad you missed yr M Group.. prob when you need it most. If I lived in Melb I'd give you a lift! Public transport an option?

Happy sleeps all.

Oh positive side..besides asking a colleage for some work help tomorrow, s'ok Freddie, not you!! I did get to watch the first 1/2 of House..as got back from feelgood walk with sleeping H a bit latter than normal. What did the chap have? Hmm the little things that make us slightly happy!! And of course the most beautiful littlest bubs of ours who make it all all make sense.

[Flicka]

Hi friends.....I have 5 mins to myself while DS is watching wiggles while eating breakfast (naughty mummy) and I can just hear kelsey stirring.
LukeandMattsMum - Don't feel guilty or worry about bringing bub into bed. You have to do what you have to do because you need to function during the day. Plus you have another toddler to look after so you really need your night time sleep. It will all work out in the end - I mean it's not like he will want to snuggle in bed forever and then you will probably miss it. Also, good advice re: inlaws. Sometimes their advice is good - even if I don't want to admit it sometimes....
Work - I work for the government so I am taking maternity leave, recreation leave and long service until November. I figure I probably won't have any more kids so I want as much time as possible with them now.
Charis - :hugs: for you. Firstly, you are naughty for not having lunch. I know you are busy but you are a b/feeding mummy and need to eat. The lack of food probably contributed to how you were feeling. I know while b/f if I don't eat, I end up a bit over whelmed by things and with a huge headache. Pls look after yourself. Also, kelsey had the slight temp from the needles but a dose of panandol and a long sleep in the air con fixed it. Hope Hunter is ok and back to his happy self today. As for HOUSE - the big guy had lung cancer....

Well I can hear Kelsey snorting in bed and DS is calling out for me....off to start another day. Cheers, Flicka xx.

[sugar n spice]

well ashton has his 3mnth check up at the chn today so im sure that will go good. Im sure he has gained weight as he is in crawler nappies and my arm is getting sore nursing him. Will let you all know how it goes. I cant believe he is 3mnths.

He slept till 7am this morning so i awoke feeling refreshed.

Look after yourselves:hugs:

[2s'nuff]

Hi-ya Girlies,

Aries...mini pill, like the normal pill can be started at any time. Just remember to take it at the same time each day.
Cordelia...Yah, great sleep! As for you mother group, if they continue those sorts of sonversations and you continue to feel down afterwards, find another group. I don't do MG's because of the competitive stuff and the possible *****iness.
Bossoflatch...rotavirus, we've decided to do it, just have to find the time to get back to the doctors. I was told none of the $140 was covered by medicare?
SammyG...:laughing: at the bath story, at least it was DH that was in control of the situation at the time.
Hels...DD1 has always preferred nurofen over panadol. Just make sure you check the required age for the infant stuff.
Tabby...yes, definately get your scar checked. my scar stopped burning at about 7 weeks.
Luke&MattsMum...will be returning to work after Easter, TJ will be 13 weeks old. Wed, Thur and Fri for a few months as I think it will be too hard full time with the two girls and DH away 2 weeks out of 3. And I'm not overly keen on the project I'm working on at the moment - hopefully that will improve or I will try and change projects.
Charis...:hugs: for your bad day. Hopefully todays going much better.

:hugs: to the bubs having their needles this week.

Have had a couple of crappy days with TJ. She's not settled or slept properly during the day. It's probably my own fault, taking her out so much lately, upsetting her routine always seems to put her out for a couple of days. Problem is I've still got lots to do. Had a puncture the other day, so have to get the tyre fixed and have a Chiro appt this afternoon - desparately need straightening out, food shopping tomorrow and still need to get her rota virus done.

have a great day!
Lisa

[Cat13]

This might sound awful but it makes me feel so much better reading about everyone else's trials and tribulations!

Charis - sorry to hear about your bad day. I think you're more than entitled to a few tears. I also have the option of working from home here in Townsville for the same accounting firm I was working for in Sydney but as keen as they'd be for me to start back I can't even imagine even considering it at the moment. I seem to get nothing accomplished each day and find reasons to breakdown in tears without having any employment responsibilities so you have my full respect.

Immunisations - seems to be that time for our bubs and Cameron is booked in for tomorrow. Fingers crossed for a smooth visit. Saw paediatrician yesterday for referral for a follow up U/S on Cameron's suspected urinary tract /kidney reflux he screamed the place down until a breast was popped in is mouth.

Mothers Group - i know I should find one and go seeing as I am new in town and it is on my 'to do' list (along with many other things) but not sure if I'm a mother's group type of person. Especially if Cordelia's experience is anything to go by!

Advice from in-laws - one of the advantages of being thousands of km from family is it makes it really hard for them to interfere. Hels, hope the in-laws ease up and work out how to make your life easier instaed of harder.

Baby brain - I think this is even worse than pregnancy brain. Have driven up next door's driveway, unloaded a full trolley at the supermarket before noticing the 12 items or less sign and thrown away 2 perfectly good washable nursing pads whilst putting 2 disposable ones through the wash. The result was not pretty, expanded absorbent gel crystals on everything. I'm sure the list will grow :laughing: .

Off now to the dentist for an inflamed wisdom tooth - DH home early from work to relieve me from baby duty. Have expressed some milk in case Cameron wakes up but not sure if it will be enough......

[Charis]

post hog I know..:o
Just to say thanks for the good wishes for me feeling so down. Today much better. Yes and Flicka, yes lunch was a major factor, I'd thought comfort/feeding him after jabs more important. But us mummies are important too.

I feel like I've made a wonderful discovery..like you Hels and the expressing..of course these have been EVERYWHERE for ages and heaps+heaps of you use them..but finally bought some 'soothers' yesterday. :smiliedance: He just popped off to sleep this morning with a few minutes of patting.. So what are the rules "use only to settle and chuck them at 4+months"?????

Mousebrown such a pain re puncture! Hope yr floating after chiro.
Happy 3months to Ashton Sugar.
Flicka found gorgeous pic of Matt featured here :)
Cat13 ouch you poor thing re inflamed wisdom tooth, with the stress of expressing too..now thats a hard day too!Good yr tooth pain will be over soon.

[mim1]

I got a 2 hour sleep this afternoon! Yeah! It's the first time since dh went back to work 2 weeks ago that I've suceeded in getting a whole 2 hours. My routine prebaby was to have a 2 hour afternoon nap as often as I could. I assumed I'd be able to continue it, but til now Josh has decided to be wide awake for most of the afternoon.

Josh didn't survive the vaccinations that well. He screamed at the time, but did settle quickly. Since then he's chucked up most of 2 of his feeds, not fed too well (shorter than usual), been grizzly (gotta love the baby bjorn) and just not been his normal self. I still get the odd smile, so he's not THAT bad, but I look forward to having my happy baby back completely.

He's just woken up ... better go feed him!

[Jenko]

All this talk of vax's has me not looking forward to Koby's. A few weeks away for us yet. My midwife came and discharged me today. She weighed Koby 6 weeks 5.5kg!! He's gonna be a big boy my bub is. :eek:

I've had a few blocked milk ducts now that have been on the verge of mastitis. Felt terrible yesterday, but managed to clear it with lots of feeding/massaging and expressing. I don't know why i keep getting them, he is feeding constantly and regularly. Maybe just more prone to it :confused:

Well after one day of self settling we are back to square one. I'm going to persevere though, K is getting too heavy to rock and hold to sleep...and he's only 6 weeks old. Don't think my poor back could take it.

[Cordelia]

Thanks guys for your support over my mothers group experience!! Cat13: I still wouldnt' miss it for the world tho!! It's adult conversation and it is good to talk over "stuff" and to be honest it's just about 3 of them who arelike this - today I went to the movies with some of the others and they were lovely! I just have to learn to laugh at the other's **** - how immature!! Yes they are amongst the youngest. (I *am* the youngest out of 15 women - at 26 can you believe it.. hopefully not like them tho)

OK I thought wednesday night was a brilliant night!! But last night!!! 9:30pm til 7:30am when I woke her up!! WOAH.. that is the longest sleep since she was born - i am in shock!! I hoep this lasts at least another night. (She's allowed to be bad on the weekends - that's when DH looks after hehe)

I hope everyone's bubs who are having immunisations go well!!

DH downloaded Series 1-3 of Cold Feet and I'm already up to the 4th episode of the 2nd season in 1.5 days - how bad is that!! I *am * doing housework at the same time so I can be forgiven!! Altho chucking Caitlin under her mobile that she loves so much all day is a little bit naughty ;P

Anyway better get episode 4 happening (teehee) .. while I fold the washing (of course!)

[mim1]

Josh just fed the best he has in 24 hours and he's still a bit grizzly, but clearly on the improve.

mothers group ... mine starts in a couple of weeks. i'm hoping it's a good group, but I've survive if it isn't. I have heaps of friends and family with young babies & this lovely group on bubhub, so I don't feel like i'll be too disadvantaged if we don't stick together as a group after the 6 week program.

jennasmum ... koby is 5.5kg - congrats :). It is big isn't it? Josh is now 5.7kg and he's so much heavier than only a few weeks ago.

[Hels*Bels]

Charis - Thanks for the offer of driving me to my Mother's group :hugs: (if you were here of course!). They covered sleep and settling this week so I didn't mind missing it too much as I did a class on that a couple of weeks ago. I will be able to go next week as I have arranged a hire car for DH.

Today I took my folks and Reece to the new shopping centre down the road that just opened today. We walked there as it only takes 5 mins (and still have no car this week). It's really great as it has a Coles and lots of other convenience shops.
Reece was crying in his pusher so I put him in one of those trolleys with a baby seat, he really loved it as he could see me pushing him around and he liked looking at everything on the shelves, so I think we will do this in future.
Today I enjoyed it when people made comments about Reece, just the usual "he's so cute" or "how old is he" etc etc. I was actually quite proud to show him off so I guess this is down to my improved state of mind now lol.

Last night he fed at 9pm and then 3am, so that was a good stretch. His thrush is clearing up too :thumbsup:

DH rang his mum yesterday and told her how we felt about her advice/critisism etc. She was in tears at the end of the convo. Then today she rang me to appologise for poking her nose in. I told her we can put it behind us now as she has agreed not to make any more comments. I think it's a good thing that this happened as now it's all sorted out and we know where we stand, I feel alot happier about that.

[victoria75]

Hi All,

Well what a week. DD has had all her results come back and that cant find anything wrong with her. She just is really slow at putting on weight. They are just going to keep monitoring her and see what happens. We also ended up with DS1 in hospital with croup. Ahhh the joys of children.:banghead: He is doing much better now.

:hugs: for all the little ones who are due there needles. :hugs: for those who have had them recently.

Charis - glad to see you had a better day today.
Hels - not sure if anyone has mentioned this or not. Nurofen should be taken just after a bottle so as not to upset the tummy. Both my DS used nurofen. I think its excellent.

Well of to continue doing some housework. DD has been asleep for 2 hours and I am actually not holdinge her. :fingerscrossed: maybe I might get a few more times when she self settles. This is the first time ever.

[SammyG]

Hels, so glad you have sorted things out with your MIL.

Charis, glad you have remembered to take care of YOU so you can take care of H and have had a better day. My DS lost his soother just b4 6months and isn't interested in taking Michael's unless he is being cheeky and even then he is not putting it in his mouth, just taking off with it to annoy his mama.

Mim, glad Josh is improving, sounds like a healthy boy you are growing there!

Cordelia, very jealous of those fantastic nights you are having.

Victoria, fantastic news that nothing is wrong.

Jennasmum, 5.5kg WOW! I thought I was doing ok getting Michael to 5kg at 6weeks.

Cat13, LOL at your baby brain, I suffer also but am so addled can't remember the funny stories half the time.

Mousebrown, I drag Michael around much more than I ever did DS1. Somehow we just muddle through our days, always more to do the next day!


Well I took Michael to the clinic today. I always seem to meet some nice mums there which is cool! Helps pass the time in the waiting room too. Michael had put on 400g in the last fortnight so BF still doing it's job.

[jacstar31]

i had a terrible day yesterday, both DH got some kind of stomach bug or maybe food poisoning, it was awful trying to feed Geoffrey when I had to keep rushing to the toilet!!!

DH had to keep taking him every few minutes and I would rush off and come back and feed some more.

Feeling much better today, just tummy feels weak from the cramps.

[tired*mummy]

Hi everyone,

Jacstar - Hope you are feeling better soon.

Ally is out of hospital :smiliedance: Picked her up yesterday afternoon. So that makes things alot easier now. Sierra is still quite sick... poor little thing. She's still coughing quite alot. If i give her a full feed which is only 100mls she throws the whole lot up so i have only been able to give her half bottles but more frequently. She slept 8hrs last night, so she mustnt have been feeling very well at all. She was quite unsettled before she feel asleep and would crack it everytime i put her down so i put her in the baby carrier and walked around with her for 2 hrs and she fell asleep as soon as i put her in there and i could still do some things so that was good. She has got a bit of conjunctivitis now too, so shes not the happiest. When i took her to the dr's he said he wanted to see her again in 5 days so i'am going to see him tonight. She hasnt improved alot even tho shes on antibiotics. She is due to have her needles too but have to wait til she's better.
I'm feeling a little better. Was exhausted last night so i was happy that Sierra slept so long. Still have a sore throat which i'm getting it looked at tonight at the Dr's. Hopefully he can give me something. But anyway we are all recovering very slowly.

Hope everyone is well and all babies are behaving themselves. Have a great weekend.

[Dooce83]

:wave: Hi, i've just been alerted to this thread and would love to join! My name is Jess, i'm 23, and my bub is almost 9 weeks old and was born on the 14th Jan at 10pm! I've just posted a thread called 'My story... and what the psychic said' and would love you all to read it. Also, visit my Zoints profile for some photos! I'm looking forward to chatting to you all!!

[Charis]

Hi:wave:
Gosh quiet place here today..hope we're all happily out and about. H taking a long time feeding, so have a free hand.

Dooce83 that is quiet some story, truly amazing! You daughter Evie is certainly a little precious one and your poor body and heart/mind for her twin.:hugs: Ugh 2weeks of internal bleeding, good on you for pressing for a second opinion!! Do read it, they are all miracles, this one certainly!

Tired Mummy sorry to hear about Sierra sicky at the moment, hope she clears up fast, lovely yr other DD is home.

Jacstar also sicky :( Hope the tummy bug is gone as fast as it came.

Well I can certainly say Freddie's Hamish is so alert and beautiful, with lovely long eyelashes and big eyes taking in the whole world. We caught up for lovely brunch and then sculpture by the sea..(not circumventing the perth meet#2, but used to work together abt 12yrs ago) Lovely boss+Mum too. Fun morning.
Oh and Hamish went to sleep in minutes! Hunter is going much better with the dummy for sleeping, so fast to sleep in minutes, no crying.. and did manage an explosive and runny 'situation' in the almost finished apartment of my grumpy client, who called him a 'situation' recently!! Luckily he wasn't there but my white linen skirt was, heh!!!

I know we all think they're geniuses..but he does take the dummy out and put it in by hand. Yesterday I thought it a fluke, but today again!:eek: I didn't think 'tool' use came for a bit??

Happy nights all.xx

[SammyG]

Time to fess up! I am one of those mums that got suckered into parting with over $500 to a modelling agency with the hopes that gorgeous DS1 would earn some cash for his school fund. 10 months later, not a single casting (admittedly not a lot of jobs have come up for his age bracket) Anyway, a month ago they sent out a general email searching for newborns for a TVC so I obliged and emailed over a shot of Michael, didn't hear anything and thought 'typical' Then this week I get a call requesting a more recent photo as commercial had been postponed but they were now ready! I'm off to see them today, they have booked 2 babies for a pharmaceutical ad shoot, 2 babies in case one has a shocker of a day. They have also asked if the 2 mums would be willing to be in ad as natural chemistry between a mum & bub usually works best. So Michael and I will get paid $100 each today just for showing up, more if we make it into the ad! Wish us luck!

[sugar n spice]

sammyg - wicked that is fantastic, good luck

ashton is sick with a cold, poor little thing. Im not sure if i mentioned he had his chn appt the other day and is above average for weight 6.3kgs and average for height 59cm.

[Cordelia]

Man I just lost a HUGE post with personals to everyone and now I have no time to retype :((

So hope everyone's going well - and good to catch up on news (altho there hasn't been much!!) and welcome to new ppl and hope that tired*mummy and family are getting better and charis, exciting that he's using his hands and sammy have fun today and jacstar get better and sugar hope ashton gets better - wow he's big!!

Sorry about the slap dash post - I promise it was really exciting and detailled

happy weekend everyone :)

[Cat13]

Wow. Cameron seems so big to me now but compared to some of your bubs he is tiny - 4.5kg at 8 and a half weeks. He's right in the middle of the charts for length and head size but still has some chubbing up to do. He's healthy and happy though so I'm not too fussed.

Immunisation yesterday was not as bad as it could have been, especially since we were waiting for an hour. Lucky Cam had a quick feed before leaving home and was sleepy so he just slept/grizzled quietly over my shoulder as we waited. Not too happy about being woken for measurements and peed all over the scales. So hard to keep him still for the needles - he might be little but he is sooooooo strong. He's all muscle! He gave a heartbreaking cry at the time but no bad reactions. Just a bit grumpy yesterday afternoon and some fussy feeding and lots of sleeping. Bought some baby panadol just in case but not needed.

I have a DH to look after now as well - cracked and fragmented his ankle bone playing volleyball at work yesterday (sometimes I think the army is more like school than work!) and is on crutches and panadeine forte until an MRI on Monday to see if surgery is required. Found him on the couch when we returned home after the immunisation yesterday. First thing he did was apologise because now I'll have to do everything around the place on my own - at least he can still hold the baby! Decided not to cancel the dinner we had invited some of his friends to and I was quite proud that I managed to pull it off relatively smoothly (Cameron's long sleep helped). Only hiccough was having to return to the supermarket half way through cooking dinner because I realised I'd left half my shopping back at the checkout - baby brain strikes again.

Hope those of you who are sick are feeling better soon and good luck for other upcoming immunisations.

[Strawberry_Shortcake]

Hello Ladies,

Just thought I would duck in here before heading out shopping.

Cat13 – Good to hear that the needles when ok. :hugs: to Cameron.

Sugar – :hugs: to Ashton. I hope he gets better soon. Nothing worse having a bub sick. Good to hear Ashton is above average aswell..

SammyG – Wow that’s so cool. Let us know if you and bub appears on telly.

Talon is almost over his sinus it’s not good when your little one is sick you feel so helpless. Just have to be there to cuddle and comfit them. I’m in the middle of doing a webpage for Talon on babiesonline.com, can’t wait to get it finish so all my family and friends can see his progress.

I took Talon to the clinic for his 11 week checkup the other day and he weighs 6.3kg and 64cm long. (not surprise about the length he’s taking after his daddy) I’m pretty happy with the weight considering he wasn’t drinking much formula while having sinus.

Anyway better go and take hubby out some lunch before heading to the shops.


Have a good weekend.
Kel

[tired*mummy]

Hi Everyone,

Sam - Good luck, thats really exciting.

Well its was good to have DD2 home but i took Sierra to the dr's again yesterday and he told me to take her to hospital :thumbsdown: She has a really bad cough and hasnt been feeding the best. So i spent the night in hospital with her and she has a similar thing to what DD2 had but her oxygen is fine so they werent too worried. They were more concerned about her decreased feeds and want me to feed her every 2hrs until she picks up again. So i'm pretty exhausted now... i was supposed to have my OB appointment for my checkup today but am too tired to go, so have rescheduled. They hopsital asked if Sierra had her needles yets and she hasnt becasue she has been sick and was only due for them yesterday, so they are a little worried that she might have whooping cough. Really hope she doesnt :fingerscrossed: Have to take her back to the hospital this afternoon so they can check her again and then probably back to the drs in another week to see how shes going.
The hospital weighed her too. She's 4.2kg. So shes only gained 1kg since birth. She was weighed 4 weeks ago and she was 3.8kg so she hasnt really gained alot.

[Flicka]

Hope you are all having a relaxing w/end. Kids are asleep here so time to catch up on the hub b4 doing some miles on the treadmill.
Kelsey has been well. Sometimes she self settles and sleeps really well and other times I find myself rocking her to sleep at 11pm. Not much structure to our routine at the moment!!!
Victoria - Glad DD is ok after all of those tests.
Jacstar - Hope ur feeling better
Tired mummy - Glad DD is home but sorry to hear you have been back to hosp with bub. Hope she is doing better. Will be thinking of you :hugs: . Look after yourself.
Dooce83 - Welcome.
Sammy - Goodluck with the ad. Could be the start of something more?????
Cat13 - Well done on organising and hosting the dinner party but I can totally relate to the baby brain issue. I am alway leaving the house without my phone or purse or forget to get things at the shops. We mums have so much to think about.
Sorry to those mums whos bubs aren't well - Sugar and Strawberry. Hope Ash feels better and Talon's sinus is improving. Glad to hear they are both still gaining regardless of being sick. Sorry if I forgot enyone else. I try and take notes when reading thru the posts!!!!

[jacstar31]

well after saying that I felt much better y'day...I progressively go worse, had cramping and pain in my right side all day, until it got to the point about 8pm that I couldn't cope anymore. i knew it wasn't a tummy bug as no vomiting or diahorrea, just this pain all day! DH and I suspected that it could be an ectopic pregnancy as I thought I may be pregnant and we got to the emergency dept at hospital and they did a urine test and said "YES" you are pregnant, I felt devastated as I knew if it was ectopic that was really bad. anyway I was still in lots of pain and writhing around on the bed. they also did a blood test and gave me some morphine for pain relief which was wonderful! anyway they did an ultrasound and couldn't see anything, but they said that could be completely normal as would only be 6-7 wks pregnant. then the blood test came back "no, you are not pregnant". whew! lots of relief there. could be that i had a ruptured cyst on my ovary, they still arent sure.
however have felt great today, no pains and eating a bit which is great b/c I haven't eaten much last two days.

so there you go - my scary story!

[2s'nuff]

Hi-ya,

Dooce83...Welcome to the Jan thread
Hels...Glad to head you got the MIL thing sorted out
Jacstar...hope you stay well today. Was the possible BFP planned/a good thing?
Sammy...Good luck for the ads. YOu'll have to let us know how it all goes.
Tired Mummy...:hugs: hope it's not whooping cough. You're due for a better run with your families health soon.

TJ still a bit unsettled today. After not sleeping much at all yesterday she had 8.5 hours last night, sleeping through until 6 am. DD1 was up at 5.30am though:banghead: . Can't seem to win either way.

Have a good weekend,
Lisa

[SammyG]

Jacstar, hope you are feeling ok.

Tiredmummy, hope Sienna is on the mend soon!

Mousebrown, I know where you are coming from, no sooner do you settle one and think you are about to catch some alone time, then the other is up.

Woo Hoo! We will be in the ad airing in about 5 months. It is also going to be on their website when it is completed so you will be able to check it out there. I will post the details when I have them. Don't know how much of us you will see, we are basically in the background sitting in a hospital bed with my new husband and the new grandparents looking at Michael 'the newborn' adoringly, while Dr Ric Gordon from the Today show says one line. It was a very pleasant couple of hours, everyone was lovely, we got fed lunch afterwards and best of all Michael was an absolute angel. Everything worked out brilliantly with timing, fed him right b4 I left and as soon as we finished shooting. The money will definitely come in handy too!

[bossoflatch]

sammyg - that is fantastic!!! you should get some good pocket money with that :fingerscrossed:

jacstar - hope you are feeling better soon

tiredmummy - hope everything goes well with dd2 -

:hugs: to all the babies having needles !!!

tayla is due for hers this week .... she has a sore ear so we are waiting for a few days - so says the dr:)

we went for her 8 week check up yesterday for her reflux - it looks like the zantac isn't doing a good enough job for her - so he started her on the losec and apparently if this doesn't settle she will have to get some tests done to check acid levels in her oesophegus (sp?)... we have to wait until wed to see if she improves... she weighs 4.5 kilos exactly at 8 weeks - was very proud of her considering our last visit we were aiming for 120 grams each week - she averaged 220 grams :smiliedance:

well she is stirring better go !!!