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*Sparkles*
17-03-2007, 20:07
Sorry no personals, I'm really tired and about to lay on the bed for an hour before getting up to bath Reece and give him his bottle.
We had a great day, took my parents into the city. We had lunch in Southbank and then wandered up to Myers and browsed the shops. It was very busy as the GP is on, but Reece was really well behaved. I gave him a bottle during lunch and then again on the way home in the car, but couldn't wind him as he was in his carseat so he fell asleep. Naughty mum :shame:
He's gone to bed now, poor thing is exhausted so he didn't protest at all, I hope he sleeps well tonite :fingerscrossed:
He cried a bit when hungry but we didn't get arsenic hour tonite due to being out :yelclap: .
Going to my SIL's tomorrow for a BBQ lunch and to watch the GP race. It's nice to be out and about socially, and alot easier now he is getting older.
Have a great weekend everyone.
sugar n spice
17-03-2007, 20:16
Hels that is great that your getting out and about. Ashton is a bit grizzly today, im not sure if its due to the heat, his cold or him just wanting to be out and around us rather then sleeping,
I am having a down day im just so exhausted and i just dont get time to clean and a messy house = :crying: sad mummy
Sugar - Don't feel down or pressured about the housework. If your place is anything like mine, it looks like a toy store exploded. I just pick up the things that may injure me if I need to get up during the night!!!:laughing: Hope you get some rest.
Sammy - Excellent news about the ad and nice to have some extra dollars!
Hels - Glad you had a nice day and are enjoying Reece. Had to laugh when you called his crying sessions arsenic hour!!!
Mouse - Know what you mean bout the kids timing their sleeps. I feel like I just get both of them off to dream land and then one will wake up. Can relate to the early mornings too - sometimes Josh gets up and 5am and although I put him back to bed, I usually can't get back to sleep.
Took me about 5 goes to get Kelsey off to bed tonight. She was a little rascal and hardly slept all day. Sometimes I feel so torn with the 2 kids. I feel like if I am doing something with one, I am ignoring the other. Ended up in tears when she finally went to bed tonight. DH is at work so I was on my own. DS got onto my lap and said "Please stop crying mummy". I felt so bad cos I thought I was scaring him. DS said "Want a cuddle?" and I said "Yes". DS said "Say yes please, mummy. Use your nice manners". Then I had to laugh. The things kids say!!!! But it cheered me up. I think I just needed to have a sook and get it out of my system.
flicka ... that's so cute about what your ds said. Sorry to hear last night was so difficult.
hels ... my paed said that 'winding a baby' is not necessary - it just makes the parents feel better, but it doesn't actually make any difference. So, don't worry about not doing it.
sugar ... sorry to hear about your house. I'm not a person that easily gets upset about a dirty house, but every now and again I look around and suddenly feel dreadful about my house - especially the kitchen. It's hard isn't it?
leisa ... glad to hear about the weight gain! yeah!
sammyg ... congrats on the ad - I look forward to seeing it!
jacstar ... wow! you've had an interesting rollercoaster this week haven't you? I hope you feel 100% soon!
dooce .. welcome!
tiredmummy ... sorry to hear that your bubs is worse. I hope she gets better really soon and I hope it's not whooping cough.
our update:
we're all sick. Josh had his vaccinations wednesday, I woke up with a cold on thursday. Josh recovered from his vaccinations by Friday morning, but that was my worst day. Then yesterday he was really grizzly and a bit snuffly. This morning he is REALLY grizzly ... speaking of which, he is crying now, gotta go!
*Sparkles*
18-03-2007, 09:48
Flicka - That's so nice what your DS said last night, sometimes the innocence of children is all it takes to make us feel better.
Mim1 - I had also read somewhere that winding is not necessary. But I do find that Reece squirms alot until he burps. So I try to keep it to a minimum. But sometimes he will drink a whole bottle without any wind at all!
Well last night I had a bad headache so I didn't wake Reece up for a bottle after all. DH was also very grumpy so I told him to "get stuffed" in not so polite terms lol. So Reece ended up sleeping from 8.30pm to 2am. Then he had a feed and slept again until 7am :smiliedance: So I think that is the most sleep we have had in a while.
I think I have an infection "down there" where my stitches were. I am very sore and swollen. I have to keep having warm salt baths and I'm taking anti-immflamatories. I have an appt with the OB on monday so I might need some anti biotics. It's 7 weeks since the birth and I am still not right :banghead:
I knew I should have had an elective caesar!!
sugar n spice
18-03-2007, 10:21
Hels - sorry to hear things still arent right down there.:hugs::hugs:
Oh Hels, I feel for you re "down there". I was talking to my m/w the other day saying 'i don't think i'm quite right down there" as it is still quite sensitive. She said to get it checked as the stitches should all be well healed by 6 weeks. So that had me in a tizz for the rest of the day. I had a look with a mirror and i think it looks a bit wrong! :eek: I got DH to have a look and he said it might be a bit different (he hasn't studied many vaginas in detail :laughing: ) but that it didn't look BAD. So that was a relief. I have an appt. with my doctor on wednesday so will get it sorted then hopefully. I hope it's nothing too serious. Hope you get yours sorted out too.
Flicka -It must be hard trying to settle 2 kids on your own. I don't know how i'd go without DH at night, i'm just sooo tired at the end of the day i need all the help i can get. Very cute of your DS.
tired*mummy - Sorry to hear about Sierra being sick. Good news about Ally coming home.
mim - hope you all feel better soon.
jacstar wow! what an awful time for you. Glad your feeling better.
Us - We are doing pretty good. I have beaten off mastitis again. Woke up feeling like I had been run over by a truck the other morning. Lots of expressing etc. Then DD was sick, vomited all over the lounge, so that was fun.
Question re sleep time - How do others go about self settling bubs. I put Koby down just awake or just as he closes his eyes, then he cries out a min or 2 later. I go in pat and rock him till he closes his eyes and stops grizzling, then go out, this can happen 3 or 4 times. BUT the problem is....when he has a little power nap of about 10 minutes he wakes up and then won't go back to sleep. :eek: Hints/tips/advice about what works for you all welcome!!
hiyas
Welcome Dooce! Look forward to getting to know you
Charis: Glad to see the dummy is working for you.
How cute with putting it in your hand too.
Aries_moon: :hugs: for the clothes and the coffee and chat! Look forward to next time.
Sugar: :hugs: to Ashton and hope his colds better. Hope your feeling a bit more rested today and Ashton settled better for you
tiredmummy: :fingerscrossed: for you and hoping nothing serious for Sierra.
jackstar: Hope your feeling better today
Flicka: so cute of ds, hope you got a better night.
mim: Hope your all feeling better real soon, HUGS to Josh for the needles and hope hes feeling better too.
Hels: oh, sure hope things are ok "down there"
and hope its nothing too serious and easily fixed.
Sorry if missed anyone but a BIG :wave: to all
Have been feeling way tired last few days so trying to catch up on some zzz's or rest whenever I can. Doesn't appear to be helping tho.
Katies still the same, good as.
Since yesterday shes been trying to pull herself up!!! whether shes laying down or laid back in pram etc she attempts it. She gets way grumpy too when it doesn't happen and I have to pick her up and sit her on my lap, what is she thinking, thats way too early for that lol.
Hope everyones w.e going well and having fun!
xx
Vicki
forgot to say, as planned I swapped Katies formula and went from s26 gold to Hienz nurture step1.
She now has much softer stools and way more regular with no need juice/water etc to get things going. :smiliedance:
jacstar31
18-03-2007, 13:40
tabby: hope that you get some good rest soon, nothing like feeling tired!
Hels: hope that your appt with ob goes well tomorrow
Jennasmum: sorry to hear about the sickies. glad to hear that mastitis has not come again!
re; settling, I have tried lots of different things, I find waiting for the 'right moment' to put him down is crucial, I will let him cry for a bit and I find lots of shushing and circle rubs on his back work well. Geoffrey also sucks his hand as he still wont take a dummy.
Mim: hope that you all feel better soon!!
sugar: don't stress too much about the house!
bossoflatch: hope that the losec helps!
Me: thanks for all the well wishes everyone! I do feel soooo much better now. no, not planned pregnancy, but not unwelcome either! we would like to have them close together - this would have been a bit too close though lol!
Thanks for all of your nice thoughts ladies :) .
I had a bad evening last night but after all of my tears, both kids were sound asleep by 8.30pm so I guess I can't complain. I am getting used to being on my own at odd times due to DH being a shift worker but I really do find the evenings most difficult (what do you say Hels? Arsenic hour? In my house I think I am the one going crazy - not the kids).
Anyway, both are snoozing right now and I have even had some "me time" on the treadmill!!!
Tabby - Sorry you are feeling a bit low. Hope you are feeling a bit brighter soon!!
jennasmum - Regarding settling. I put Kelsey down when sleepy or just closing her eyes and she usually wakes up straight away. Then I just shhh and pat until she is asleep. Sometimes I have to go back in and pick her up and start all over again 5 or 6 times (usually because DS yells out or something). BUT I think in the long run it is the best way as some days I put her down and just walk out. i hate to hear her cry so if she cries, I pick her up and start again. Don't know if this helps you at all....As for the short sleeps, yesterday was one of those days for me. Sometimes I am able to pick her up and settle her to sleep again but other times I just let her get up and giver her a bit more awake time b4 trying again. I guess it is all just trial and error.
The topic of not quite right 'down there' raised by Hels & Jennasmum reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask:
How thorough was everyone's postnatal checkup?
In Sydney I was seeing an ob for my care but because of the move up north just saw a local GP for my check-up. I was expecting at least an examination of 'down there' and a pap smear but all the doc did was feel my belly to check uterus had shrunk back down and ask me questions about contraception. I even mentioned that I thought I had developed haemmeroids (TMI!) since the birth and as embarrassing as I found it, would have liked her to check that out for me too. But no, just instructions to bathe the area daily.
So I'm not quite sure things are right for me 'down there' either. Stitches look to have healed fine but the one and only time we have done the deed (which wasn't until after 7 weeks so I thought all should be fine by then) I nearly cried - felt like I was being split open again. Hoping it may have just been because of the haemerroids so waiting until that fully clears up (any tips???) before trying again.....sorry for TMI! :o
sugar n spice
18-03-2007, 15:31
with my checkup it was the same, checked my belly, talked about contraception, concerns and that was it.
Bossoflatch..hope the losec starts to work for you. It may take a couple of weeks for it to start to do any good, so hang in there with it for a while.
Flicka...:laughing: I'm like you regarding toys, as long as I have a clear passage through the living room at night I'm happy. DD1 has a little tent up inside that is also great to chuck things in if I need to do a quick tidy up.
:hugs: for the teary night. It can be hard on your own some nights. I was having all sorts of problems getting DD1 to bed when TJ was up, but have since decided that TJ can wait (and sometimes have a scream for a while) while I get DD1 into bed.
Jennasmum...To self settle TJ, I give her a cuddle until her eyes start to droop, then into bed with her dummy. If she grizzles, I go in and put her dummy back in and if I can't see any obvious signs of wind I give her up to 20 minutes to settle. If after 20 minutes she's still not asleep I pick her up for another burp/sip on her bottle. Then start again.
Cat...at my 6 week checkup I had a pap smear and the ob checked my scar and uterus. Not much to it though. Maybe being a GP you have to ask for a pap smear etc.
I got a call from work on Friday and have to go in and have a chat with the new project manager. Not looking forward to it. Then I realised today that I start work again in just over 3 weeks and have nothing that fits:eek: . I'm hoping cutting out the **** for a few weeks and attempting to do some exercise (time and energy permitting) might take enough off the hips and bum to allow me to fit into at least a couple of pants/skirts.
Have a great day, sleep vibes to everyone!
About 'down there' I am so glad someone else brought it up. I'm not having any discomfort down there but we haven't done the deed yet much to DH's disappointment. But I had a quick look with a mirror and almost died, I feel a bit inside out in that region, will try to get to GP for my check-up this week, he is pretty thorough! I am trying to do lots of pelvic floor exercises but always forget!
My Gp didnt even look at my scar or feel my uterus! Just asked how it all was and then right on to katie..So hard to find a good GP now.
self settling, Im with mouseB same thing here except at 20 mins I pickup re-wrap and a cuddle for a few minutes then back to bed with the dummy.
Someone also said earlier and I agree, the trick is to know when the right time is, not too soon and not till over tired. I wait for a few yawns then a grizzle then off we go to bed.
*Sparkles*
18-03-2007, 17:28
At my 6 week check the Dr only checked Reece over and not me at all. I wasn't too bothered as I have the OB appt tomorrow anyway.
I had a look "down there" earlier and I have a large sore lump in the perenial area :eek: My mum thinks it might be an absess. I feel so sore now that I want to sit on the cushion with the hole in the middle again:thumbsdown: . Just bathed myself with detol and I'm about to have 2 panadeine for the pain. It even keeps me awake at night it's so painful. I'm sure childbirth was easier lol (well, on second thoughts, maybe not)
It's currently arsenic hour here so my mum is trying to settle Reece. What fun and games!!
Oh well... S'pose I'd better get back to it!
OK, this probably way TMI but I have a few thoughts regarding 'down below'. I am of the opinion that after it stretches to have the baby it all goes back but not exactly the same as it was IYKWIM? I mean things feel slightly different. I had a bit of a lump at the start of my perenium (but not an abscess) and asked the obst about it. He said it was just a bit of scar tissue. It seems to have gone down over time but not gone completely. However as for doing the deed I agree it can be uncomfy for a while. I just use plenty of personal lubricant and we take it easy (sorry sorry TMI). My doc did check everything out at my 6 wk appt and I got a pap smear but only cos I asked.
As for you poor girls still sore down there I am interested to know if you tore or were cut. I was cut with DS and it took ages to heal but tore quite badly with Kelsey but it healed quickly. I wonder which is better......
:hugs: for your ouchies getting better quickly.....there is nothing worse.
Also, Mouse - thanks for your kind thoughts - I don't know how you manage sometimes. You always sound so organised and now you are going back to work!!!
Anyway, just to make a crazy woman out of me both kids have been angels today and i feel like a terrific mum again. HOORAY!! I agree sometimes you have to let bub cry while you do something for the older child otherwise jealousy may set in.
Flicka, DS1 had a 38cm head and I was cut for him as he got stuck and needed the vacuum. I was still very sore at 6week check-up. With DS2 (36cm HC) who came out like a rocket I had a 2nd degree tear and wasn't nearly as uncomfortable for nowhere near the same amount of time. I can't remember being brave enough to look down there last time but this time it's not bouncing back inside as quickly. Sorry if TMI! BTW it hasn't put me off wanting another!
Don't you seem to love your family that little bit more when they are all asleep?
Thanks for everyones input on how they settle their bubs. This is what i'm trying and it seems to be going pretty well. As you know some times it's just hit and miss.
You'd think i'd know what i'm doing by now being baby #2 but DD was such a shocker, she never self settled herself. She didn't grizzle and we couldn't even pat and shoosh her, she just screamed blue murder...it was lots of rocking in arms till she was sound asleep. That's what i had been doing with Koby but he is a much more contented baby and i know he can do it.
As for 'down there' - Flicka, i think i might have scar tissue, it sounds similar to what you describe. I was cut with DD and it seemed to heal quicker than this. I tore this time, so maybe it's the skill of the doctor doingthe stitches. :confused:
Sammy G - you described it perfectly! I think i look inside out too!! :eek:
As for doing the deed, well we haven't even tried yet but i remember it was months before it felt 'normal' after having DD. We also used plenty of lubricant and took it very slowly. I think i was quite tense about it all which didn't help things....BUT the good news is that it does get better....eventually :laughing:
Don't you seem to love your family that little bit more when they are all asleep?
:yes: :laughing: Sure do!
Lukeandmattsmum
18-03-2007, 21:37
Hi everyone
Well it has been a couple of days since my last post, so i will try my best to get through the posts.
Mim1 - Hope you all are feeling better soon and :hugs: to Josh for his needles.
Hels - I don't think it is recommended using a cushion with a hole in it as it can put more pressure on the area therefore taking longer to heal.
Sammy G - Congrats on the ad. DS1 is in a modeling agency and has been for a year, we got suckered into forking out all this money for photos and have still not heard from them. I have a feeling we may of been ripped off.
Sugar - :hugs: hope you are feeling better soon. Don't stress to much about the house. It will always be there the next day. Mine is still waiting to be cleaned properly.
Jennasmum - Matt sometimes settles on his own and then other times he needs to be rocked for a bit. It all depends on the day and his mood.
Dooce - Welcome looking forward to chatting.
Us - Well i have had an infected tear duct.:crying: which was extrmely sore but thankfully has started to clear. Cate and myself and some Feb mums caught up on Friday, all that being nervous was for nothing after all, what a lovely bunch of ladies. ( and kidlets) I think i jinxed myself by saying Matt wasn't a chucky baby. Well Saturday morning he had a feed in bed and i sat him up for a burp and he projectile vomitted all over the bed sheet, himself and me.:eek: lovely at 4am in the morning. Thankfully nomore as yet.
Well this has been a mammoth effort and i think i will leave it at that and won't leave it as long to post next time.
Hi Ladies:wave:
Just back from Adelaide! Haven't had a chance to catch up on the pages and pages!
Billy was great...Womadelaide was great and I stayed out til 3am!
Most of all it was fantastic to see all my old friends and family members.
Billy really is a wonderful baby, and sleep! OMG, he has been going down about 6pm and waking for his feed at 11 and stretching out til 4am - 5am. He goes straight back to sleep. I feel like I really have been blessed. :wizard: His DD was nothing like that and quite strung out (but so was I!). He doesn't cry much at all (occasional pain cry - seems to have lost most of the colic) and spends most of his wake time talking and smiling, he laughed for the first time the other day. Maybe I feel like this because it was so good just to spend time with him alone in Adelaide (no DH or DD) and I feel like we had the time to really get to know each other without the distractions of home.Valentine
Will do some personals soon but have to get the time to do some reading.
Goodnight ladies
Lukeandmattsmum
19-03-2007, 09:11
Argghh i just lost my post. ok ill start again
Well Matthew did his first sleep through last night. He went frim 8:30pm till 5:30am :smiliedance: Hopefully he can continue doing this.
OOps better go he is cracking it now.
Hi everyone.
Wow you all post a lot in this thread don't you! It's going to take me a while to catch up on who everyone is, etc, but i hope to :)
Interesting posts about 'down there' and pain/uncomfort when 'doing the deed'. I'm not glad to hear any of you are in pain or having trouble, but i am glad to hear i'm not the only one! It's obviously more normal that i thought. I hope you all are feeling better soon.
When i went to see my OB for my 6 week check up he hardly checked anything, just got me to clench my pelvic floor muscles and thats about it! I wasn't too impressed at all really. He's a strange man and talks at the speed on lightening lol, so i never felt like i got much out of him, he would put a fifteen minute appointment into 5 mins and then it was another $60 to pay and i felt like I had no idea what he had said!!
Evie had her immunisations on Saturday, so that was a bit sad :( All she did all weekend was scream and sleep.
I hope you are all well this week and your children too!!
Hi all...everyone seems to have had a busy weekend...we had our quietest in ages!! Thank goodness.
Well the exciting news is that Audrey has now slept through 4 nights in a row!!! She slept through Tues night and we thought "that's a nice treat"....woke up Weds as per usual but since then has slept through every night!!! It's so exciting but we still wake up at 2am waiting for her!
Lukeandmattsmum good to hear the Matt slept through, maybe Audrey sent him secret messages on Friday! It was great for some brisbane mummies to meet up. To any others out there, we are hoping to make it a regular thing so please pm either of us and keep an eye out for when we are next meeting.
As for my 6 week ob visit. He did a check internally of cervix, also outside for uterus, check scar from epis, made sure there were no stray stitches that hadn't dissolved and also did a pap smear. He also spent quite a bit of time asking about feeding, sex, contraception and generally how I was going! Lovely guy and great doc through whole of preg, delivery and post....if we go for a second I'll be going straight back to him!
Sorry to hear about stitches and pain! I just have a hang over yr knickers tummy at C scar height. Its not been long girls, scars will all heal, muscles join up..
Got a squirmer..in one arm..more later
xx
tired*mummy
19-03-2007, 11:57
HI everyone
Dooce - :wave: and welcome.
Cate - very exciting that Audrey has slept thru, hope it continues for you.
Luke&MattsMum - :fingerscrossed: more sleep thru's for you.
Karrina - Glad you had a good time away.
Us - Sierra is quite a bit better in herself. Smiling again but still has a really bad cough so she gets upset when she has a coughing fit. I am taking her to the CHN tomorrow so will aske her about her weight gain and see if its ok. Thought they should have put on more than a kilo by this stage but we'll see. Sierra slept from 1am til 7:15am this morning so that was good. DH fed her when she woke last night as i was in bed with a migraine and he couldnt settle her for about an hour but after he did she slept really well. Had a bit of time this morning to catch up on some housework... MIL took DD1 to swimming and had her afterwards til lunchtime, so it was good to be able to catch up on a bit while Sierra slept and DD2 watched ABC Kids. Both DD's have kinder tomorrow so that will be good to have a rest and catch up on a few more things. When DD2 is in hospital everything gets built up and there is always so much to do when she's finally home.
We had a pretty quite weekend which was good for a change. Did the grocery shopping with all 3 kids :laughing: What fun that was!! DH and DD1 were playing in one of the isle's and DD1 tripped on the trolley wheel and fell over and cut her lip and the little bit of skin inside that connects the lip to the gum. There was blood everywhere... all down her top, all over her face. It was quite gross. I had to take the cloth out of Sierra carrier (cause we had nothing else) to put in DD1 mouth to stop the bleeding. So that was fun!! lol.
Anyway, hope you all had a good weekend.
hi all
Hels: We just got your parcel this morning, adorable outfits! especially like the zebra one, again thankyou from the bottom of our hearts :hugs:
Charis: Does that include flab will rise again? So hate this tummy hang lol. I really need to get my butt into gear and do something, I really want to join the revamped gym and indoor pool here but cant until $ again :(. Its that ladies only gym too so should be good.
cate: congrats on the sleep throughs YAY
Dooce: :hugs: for Evie and hope shes feeling better today.
Lukeandmattsmum :fingerscrossed: for more sleep throughs for you.
Tired mummy: glad to hear Sierra seems to be on the mend! ouch for DD1 tho.
Karrina: Sounds like you had a great time.
When our previous are so demanding it makes us all the more appreciative of just how blessed we are this time round doesnt it? . I still have Katie wake at 4 or 5 am but am truly happy with that as it was nothing compared to ds2, just like you.
Even makes me think I could go another any time soon!!!
ohh someone shake me for even thinking that.
Katie is napping after night of 10pm - 6am
She did wake at 5am but still looked tired so popped in the dummy and got another hr. The downside of this timeshift? She decided 6am was up and go time lol , usual is 8pm-4am then back 430 to 8am. Not sure which I prefer.....
Hope all had a good w.e and especially some great nights
xx
Vicki
Cordelia
19-03-2007, 12:27
good to read everyone's news :)
Especially that nights are getting better!! Caitlin has been sleeping 9:30pm - 6:30am - perfect!! amazing!!
She's spent the weekend "talking" smiling and giggling much to DH's delight. It's good as he usually only sees her at that awful grizzly time of day 4:30 til bedtime.
what a shambles tired*mummy!! the thought of taking 3 kids shoppingis enough for me :P
My 6 week check was very uneventful. checked te scar, pressed down on tummy and talked contraception - plus I was still bleeding so I got a referall for an ultrasound... have to go back for a pap smear in 6 months.
karrina - great you had a good holiday!!
I'm getting excited about some upcoming holidays!! We are going to Melbourne in June for my grandmother's 80th bday - and will spend another week there looking around. Then in August I am planning a surprise holiday for DH's 30th bday - will either go to New Zealand or up north to Kalbarri - can't wait!!! I'm sure Caitlin will behave like an angel - and can't wait to show her off
*Sparkles*
19-03-2007, 13:58
Well it's not good news, I just got home from my OB appt and I have an abcess "down there". It's quite serious and I have to go into hospital and have surgery tonight :eek:
They will put me out with a general so I have to stay in overnight. Thankfully my parents are still here (to look after Reece) and DH has come home from work, he will take tomorrow off aswell. I am paying to go privately this time and the OB said he will tidy everything up down there at the same time to make me as close to normal as possible, so that will be good.
Anyway, I've got to pack my overnight bag now so I'd better go, so wish me luck! :fingerscrossed: I'll be back in here when I am feeling well enough.
oh Hels, good luck chicky, hope you have a quick recovery
Lukeandmattsmum
19-03-2007, 14:17
HELS :hugs: your way and hope you recover quickly.
tired*mummy
19-03-2007, 14:18
Hels - Hope everything goes well. Sending you lots of :hugs: :hugs:
victoria75
19-03-2007, 14:19
OMG - good luck Hels. I will be thinking of you. Hope to hear from you soon. Take care.:hugs:
Hels, will be thinking of you and hoping for a quick recovery, lots of :hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs:
This is how Katie likes to be wrapped now.
Squirms and wriggles until shes got it just right, ahhh nice cool bottom half... then its off to sleep :laughing:
http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture038pp3.jpg
tired*mummy
19-03-2007, 16:04
Tabby - Thats so cute :laughing:
Oh Hels - All the best. I hope your back to normal v. quickly. :hugs:
Strawberry_Shortcake
19-03-2007, 17:00
Hello Ladies,
Hels – Good luck, my thoughts are with you. I hope you have a speedy recovery. :hugs: :hugs:
Tabby – Kaitlyn looks very settled wrapped like that.
Cate – Good to hear bub has slept through for you. :fingerscrossed: she keeps doing it. I clearly forgot about the get together. Will make sure I’ll make the next one.
Karrina – Good to hear you had a good time away.
Talon and I went to a christening yesterday and he was such a good bub. People couldn’t get over how good he was during the service. Looking around and smiling and making these little noises. It was so cute. Talon has been sleeping through the night which is great. Last night he went to bed at 6pm and woke up for a feed at 3am then went straight back to sleep till 6am. So I can’t complain about that. Otherwise nothing much happening here, just waiting to here where we are posted to, at the end of the year (yep i'm a defence wife).
Take care
Kel
sugar n spice
19-03-2007, 17:21
oh hels you pooor thing. i hope everything goes well and you have a speedy recovery:hugs::hugs::hugs:
bossoflatch
19-03-2007, 18:56
hels - best of luck and hope you have a speedy recovery
tabby - katie is such a cutie !!!
mim - how did you go with bubs and the reflux...?? has he settled a little more..... our dr started tayla on losec over the weekend and it seems to be kicking in over the last 12 hours - she is really happy and content - she has only cried a little after some feeds but mylanta was enough to settle her... i hope he settles soon for you - it is so sad when they are in pain ....
with regards to the brisbane meet up - is there any mums on the north side - i won;t be able to get to the south side - it is just too far... once i drop boys of to school and all - oh ! and Tayla is another baby that hates the car!!!
since changing to losec medication - tayla has better during the day - and last night she went to sleep before 9.30 !!!:smiliedance: it did mean that she had an earlier start to the day - she was awake looking for a feed at 6.30 this morning - it was much more convenient to feed her then - the boys were still asleep and i didn't have to wake her at 8.30 like i usually have to when i take the boys to school.. so :fingerscrossed: she is starting a new routine
has anyone else started orgainising baptisms yet??? we missed out on the 'meeting' so we are still hoping to get into april???
doing the deed thing??? i so thought i was the only one - and that hubby would be walking out the door !!!!:laughing: i really have no interest.... i have fallen in love with someone else since then ...
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do you think he will understand???
cheers to all
and again best of luck hels........
Hels great you acted on it and knew something was wrong. You poor thing, hope the healing process has started now. :wave:
Georgia what a shopping expedition!
Tabby, gorgeous gorgeous pics. Katie with the chubby aired legs is lovely, often how I find Hunter too.
Two things
-Saturday had an hour to shop for the week and also catch my dear friend with 7month old for coffee. H's Dad was looking after him (asleep) I'd proudly showed him the bottle of EBM just done and put it in the fridge..I get a message 45mins in asking where the baby bjorn is (oops in my car)..but wonder why he wants it as he is clearly going to be hungry and thought I'd made that clear..so respond saying milk in fridge. I get back(fast shop great coffee) and they're happily feeding away from the fresh/just done bottle, but the old gross been in fridge a week tiny bit bottle is empty..urgh!! no terrible effects thankfully!!!
Haerroids ('m' in there somewhere!) lots of water! And regularity. Yep me too. Oh and if we're down there am still bleeding too, sorry for TMI. :o
Happy sleeps allxx
bosoflatch, we are currently planning Michael's Baptism. We aren't doing it till late June though. We have already done our workshop at the church (which I was dreading but it was a lovely 20 mins) I'm not terribly religious but DH is catholic. Now just planning venue, food etc. Luckily we are getting a hall at the local bowling club for free. It will be a good day, we had around 75 people to Ben's and I think this one will be about the same. I have to come up with the cake design now and not do it at the last minute like all my other cakes (all 3 LOL)
Hels, thinking of you and hoping you are ok!
Are there any Syd mums out there interested in a catchup. We are sadly lagging behind the other states.
Strawberry: Good on Talon for being such an angel at the christening. Do you stay in Aus or can it be over seas?
bossoflatch: Glad the losec seems to be working. :fingerscrossed: it continues and the routine stays for you.
Charis: Probably way tmi here so close your eyes lol
I suffered hems from birthing ds2! The pushing was what did it for me, I was fine until then. Im sure they came along at the same time I yelled " FEELS LIKE HES COMING OUT OF MY BUM"!!!! :laughing:
I so dreaded waking them with pregnancy with Katie but was lucky there. phew!
still bleeding since birth?? I ended about week4 and nothing since, but that might be the depo provera stopping them, either that or that deed before depo ( oops ) has me preg again. :eek: See I should be spotting at least for the first couple months with af then no periods at all...nothing in 6 weeks tho..
I just wont think about that just now lol
* pushes it back into the back of my mind*
Speaking of doing the deed,yes but not because I feel like it thats for sure lol. I prefer to sleep! Seem to have lost my sex drive, anyone seen it??? :laughing:
anyhow time to get things setup for her bath and last feed etc
sleep vibes to all bubbies
xx
Vicki & Katie
Lukeandmattsmum
19-03-2007, 21:45
Hi guys well i have just come home from my first night back at playing netball. Not feeling to bad at the moment but will get back to you in the morning when i probably won't be able to walk. Just when you think that you have down enough pelvic floor exercises i soon relise that it will probably never be the same down there again.:eek: I think i might need to invest in a new sports bra or else i will take an eye out soon:laughing:
Hope everyone has a good night
Charis - just a quick one...if you are still bleeding after 9 weeks I would get a check up just incase. I think it is meant to be over between 4 - 6 weeks, maybe I am wrong but I am off for an ultrasound next week as my uterus hasn't shrunk back and is a bit painful. One of the things the doctors were concerned about was bleeding (which I no longer have) as it can be a sign of infection in the uterus, just thought I would let you know...
hi all, long time...just can't seem to get to bubhub after all the other jobs that need doing while Hamish has his power naps.
We're doing well but still not much day sleep happening. Had 40 mins this morning, a 15 minute power nap around lunch time and same again while we were visiting my nan this afternoon. SO cute seeing 92 year old nan playing with 10 week old Hamish.
good to hear I seem to be in the 'normal' range on stitch healing and deed-doing. A bit uncomfortable if care is taken! good luck to those still healing - esp. Hels.
not much else to report, Hamish is sleeping from about 7.30pm but timing varies from 4 hours to 8 hours (only once). 5 1/2 seems to be the average then another 2 or 3 and perhaps another 1 or 2. Usually one feed early in the morning between 1 and 3 and then another between 5 and 6. Yesterday we managed to cut the second feed and up at 6.45am which was great.
best to all
kx
I never realised i'd be so busy with a 9 week old! Yesterday dh woke up really sick with a temperature and no voice, so my hopes of taking him with us to Josh's hearing test evaporated. Poor dh he spent the day in bed.
So, Josh had his hearing test yesterday. Has anyone else had to take their bub to one? Josh had to go cause he was in special care for more than 48 hours. I knew his hearing was ok, but this test was needed to confirm it. I know that the earlier a hearing problem is picked up the better. BUT, Josh had to be SOUND ASLEEP for 35 minutes for the test at 11am. Josh rarely sleeps for that long during the day and never at a reliable time! I was really worried that I wouldn't be able to get him to sleep on command. Sure enough 10 minutes after we got there he was still lying in my arms in his wrap and grinning broadly at me behind his dummy. He thought it was very funny, I wasn't so impressed. i decided to try and feed him to sleep and to my surprise it worked! Yep, he slept for the test, including having little earphone things put in and out of his ears! I was so relieved, but I had a really sore back from sitting on an uncomfortable chair and supporting my heavy, sound asleep baby.
Josh's reflux seems to be under control with just the zantac. it is hard sometimes to work out if his grizzles or cries are from reflux or not. It's been especially challenging in the last week with the vaccinations and then he had a cold. He wasn't sleeping much during the day and I thought maybe it was from reflux, then he slept from 3pm til 6:30pm yesterday afternoon so I think everything is ok. I see his paed today.
hels ... hope you are feeling better! :hugs:
Speaking of baptisms my friends daughter was dedicated (like baptism) at our church last week and the dedication was run by her grandfather. He took the baby from her mum to start the dedication and she immediately chucked all over him and herself! Not quite the start they had planned :)
Cordelia
20-03-2007, 08:57
Hi everyone,
Charis: aren't men dense!! I'm glad there were no side effects from the dodgy milk :P I had to go for an ultrasound when I was still bleeding to see if there was any retained placenta. Then got put on antibiotics to clear up any infection - the bleeding stopped a week later.
Hels: Hope everything went smoothly and you're feeling good.
Re: Baptism - like mim said, we'll get Caitlin dedicated rather than baptised at a regular church service. I couldn't imagine trying to plan a big service and food and heaps of guests - good luck to those who are doing that!!!!
lukeandmattsmum: good on you for starting netball. I really want to but I just feel like every time I move nothing stays in place - my breasts are like bowling balls and the bit of skin on top of my scar bounces around - i'll have to invest in some tight lycra to hold me all in!! i would have thought that after 13 weeks things would have started improving
mim: Glad Josh fell asleep eventually for the hearing test! Hope DH is feeling better.
Morning all
DP has got a 1 day temp job today for data entry so thats good. Some extra $. plus some time alone!
Love em to bits but never have been one to enjoy them underfoot ALL day EVERY day :laughing:
Someone PLEASE give him a ft job soon :fingerscrossed:
Katie is still really determined to sit upright at all times ( except for the occasional kick on play mat )
She gets the grumps really bad if I dont! Ive tried sitting her almost upright on the lounge next to me but thats not good enough and she tries to pull herself forward and up more! Also when shes had enough play mat she will try to sit up by straining to pull upwards, now even have to strap her in the pram allready as she tries it there too lol So I have to hold her on my knee more to keep her happy, soon as shes there shes all smiles.
Pretty sure the boys wern't doing this at this age?? Maybe I just forgot lol
mim: Hope DH is feeling better today.
Glad alls well with Josh's hearing and hope the reflux stays better.
oh gotta go shes awake :D
edited to add, hes just rang and cant find the right place!!!! blooming ell, save my sanity!!! lol
xx
Vicki and Katie
Strawberry_Shortcake
20-03-2007, 09:35
Bossoflatch – Regarding organizing baptisms yet? we having a naming ceromony. Hubby and I went and seen the padre yesterday, did plan it for the 7th April but just found out hubby is working that day. So we have made it for early May.
Tabby- We stay in the land of Oz but hubby can get deployed oversea anytime.
aries_moon
20-03-2007, 10:32
morning to all...(or afternoon for some??)
Slack as usual keeping up with things here........
HELS: hope your stay at the hospy has you on the mend now, that's a cr*p thing to deal with when you have a lil bub hey.....am a bit jealous of your nite of uninterupted sleep you must have got there !:laughing: must have been great!!
TABBY: that's good at least dp has a job for the day, maybe other jobs will come up?? i did a bit of temp work while pg and there was lots of work in data entry so maybe he can do that for a bit? Glad you like the clothes, saw the pic of her- very cute!!
CHARIS: just a q for you since you leave your bub with EBM, im wanting to do the same, how many mls is a full feed for Hunter usually?? Also i'm keen to go to the physio at KEMH, will go next week as we'll be 6 wks then, do u have to book in first and do u go most weds?? nice to catch up if so.........
*tmi* stuff since we're all doing it..lol..........not really bleeding anymore, kinda off and on but not worried.....but concerned as sex doesn't seem quite right, have attempted 3 times and it's awful....would there be swelling on the inside causing discomfort?? didn't think would have issues after a csec, so any other csec mums input would be much valued!! have our 6 week checkup today anyway, many q's!!
Would any perth mums be interested in going to a "screamer sessions" at the movies?? I would love to do this, we went to movies at burswood on fri. with X and he was pretty good, was sooooo great to get out and do normal life things, so would like to give this one a go. Hopefully we can organize something if anyone's interested.........
X seems to be cruising along nicely, getting very chubby so can't wait to see what he weighs- i'm sure he's 11lbs by now at least! He slept from 10pm -5am straight last nite so i am soooo excited! :fingerscrossed: he keeps it up. Well must go now and organize the baby bag for going out. Amazinf how much preparation it takes just to get mobile with these little people!! have a great day all:D
tired*mummy
20-03-2007, 11:28
Hi everyone,
Charis: With my first i bled for 10 weeks, it wasnt very nice. But i didnt have any infection or retained placenta, so not sure why it took so long to stop.
Tabby: Hope your DH gets something fulltime soon.
As for 'doing it'... no problems there. Havent had any pain or much discomfort so pretty happy about that. One thing i am a little concerned about is when will my period return? Finished bleeding just before 4 weeks after the birth and havent had anything since...so its just over 5 weeks. I'm not b/feeding so wondering why i havent got it yet. I know i should probably should enjoy not having it :laughing: But didnt know if this was normal. It wasnt this long after the other births.
Have Sierra's CHN appointment this afternoon so will let you all know how that goes. Going to ask about her weight gain and see if they think she's well enough to get her needles.
Flicka: I just got the clothes and they are adorable and we couldn't wait to try them on and go show off at the local shops :laughing:. oh and the hooded towel! How did you know I always wanted one? :)
This is for you
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Thankyou!! I love dressing her all "girly" but havn't been able to lately with dp no work and no cl. Only had newborn prettys as planned to buy as needed. so you made my WEEK :hugs:
have also pmed you
Tired_ mummy: All the best for the chn visit. I posted yesterday how was weird I hadnt even spotted as yet ( on depo now ) usually do for the first few month when af due...ah well none is ok by me lol
Aries_moon: I felt a bit odd there the first few weeks, still do somewhat, I put mine down to the pressure from trying to labor and get to 9cm anyhow.
Did you labor at all?
Glad hes sleeping night so well *fingers crossed* its the start
yep am happy for him to get more temp, better than nothing!
Katies sleepy now so better go settle her to bed
xx
Vicki
lukeandmattsmum great to hear about the netball....i hear you about needing the new bra though!!!
Strawberry-shortcake if you have an email address you like to pm me and i can email you direct with details of next meet if you don't get on bubhub too often.
Audrey still sleeping through!!! :fingerscrossed: hope that continues.
Hels hope everything goes well and you start to feel a little more "normal" down there!!!
Audrey is doing crazy feeding things today!!! All out of whack - she probably knows that I'm going to accompany a choir rehearsal tonight and daddy has to look after her!!
Hello to everyone,
Well we are back from our holiday. Got on plane at Gold Coast at 1pm and didn't get home till 9.30pm - should have been back by about 5pm ish but seems bubs hates the car....... big time! A 2.5hour trip from syd took about 6+ :banghead:
Poor little thing though - she's been in and out of our hire car all week - and DH just realised yesterday when fitting the car seat at the airport that he had actually fit it wrong in the hire car - that explains why her head was on her lap all week...... men!
Got her off to bed at 10pm last night, slept till 6am, had feed, slept till 10am, woke had feed back down at 11am and now at 2.50pm still asleep!!!! It has been a big week!
She was good on the plane too - DS had the sore ears though.
My little brother's wedding was just gorgeous - I want to get married again (DH said not likely!) - it was so beautiful....... They are so in love, they move into their brand new home that they have just bought when they get back from their honeymoon.... ah lifes so sweet.
I have my 8wk check tommorrow - it'll technically be 9wks - but delayed due to holiday. Bubby has her needles too :crying:
As for the deed - I am so sore still and I had a ceaser :confused: why??? I feel like I have something else going on down there?? Plus I am still bleeding, it's gotten heavier in the last five days like a period??? I am so confused about it all. I really thought it'd be a lot easier after the ceaser?? Plus to add to it all my scar got infected while we were away, it got all swollen and puffy and then I had to drain the oozy gunk from it - sorry if tmi!! - I am still dressing it daily... my mum who's a nurse said it's probably a stitch that didn't dislove trying to work it's way out?? I will show the Dr that too tommorrow. Plus am having the implanon put in tommorrow - expecting a very long consult and hopefully thorough one with the Dr. Still worried about the implanon and BF - nobody seems to know whether it'll affect my supply......
Anyway - sorry no personals (too much to catch up on..... busy girls!).
But...
Hels - hope your getting better - you poor thing :hugs:
Bubs is waking better go............ finally!
2cutekidz
:hugs: for Emily for her needles tomorrow
and :hugs: for you with the infection, I know only too well how that feels! Hope its all ok
Dp left the temp job to go for a 2nd interview for one he went for last week, so thats a good sign
Told him on the way home go cl and get a letter for homeswest stating hes been rejected ( so can adjust rent accordingly ) He just rang and hes waiting to see someone as desk said and get this!!!! "No youve not been rejected BUT it is still being looked into and its been 3 weeks, way too long, sit and ill get someone to sort it!"
He received a call last week saying he was rejected! Plus we continually get letters saying all different things.
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH How bloody frustrating are these ppl!
ahh much better now I got that out, lol
oh and I believe my sex drive is like socks, missing and NOBODY knows where or IF they will ever return! And IF they do return, youve no-idea where they were but are happy to see them anyhow hahhaha
I walked away and then realized that I just used socks as a comparison in my sex life. :(:laughing::laughing:
*Sparkles*
20-03-2007, 15:45
Hi Ladies :wave:
Just a quickie to say I'm still alive and kicking lol. The surgery went well, I came home this morning so now I am resting. They said the abcess was the size of a golf ball :eek: I am still very sore, it feels like I did after giving birth but should heal within a few days :fingerscrossed:
I was told that if I want anymore babies I would need a caesar next time, but that's fine with me!!
Thanks for all your kind thoughts, will catch up with all posts later.
Hels :)
Cordelia
20-03-2007, 15:46
Hi everyone,
2cutekidz - glad your trip went well!! That's funny about the carseat - DH had to try 4 times to get ours right - he didn't get it that babies LAY not SIT in the first few months.
I went to a closing down sale at a kidswear factory today and got all these winter outfits from $2-5!!! They're so cute!! And usually so expensive!! It's the one at Maddington Metro for those Perth Mums who might be interested - mind you, at that price I don't think they'll last long!! (I sound like I'm from Danoz Direct)
aries_moon - movies are great!! A group of news mums (and I) go to the one at Southlands in Willetton which happens every fortnight on Thursday mornings (not this week).. I'll let you know what time the next one is (and what movie it is!)
Well, Caitlin has been "calling for me" (aka crying) the whole time I've been reading this but she has mysteriously stopped all of a sudden - maybe, just maybe she's gone to sleep *SHOCK HORROR* Better go check!!
Lots to catch up on today.
Hels - Hope you are on the mend and being looked after well by your mum and DH.
Tabby - No dramas 'bout the clothes. It made my day seeing that cute photo of katie. She has so much hair!!!
On the subject of "roids". I had them after having DS but that was because I pushed so hard during labour I think. When preg with Kelsey I had them from early on. They are getting better slowly but from memory it was about 4 or 5 months before they were gone completely after having DS.
Sex drive??? What's that Tabby? Although I have been 'back in action' for a while - I can relate to the missing sex drive. Perhaps they are all on a tropical island somewhere sipping cocktails and getting plenty of rest??? I am sure it will return however sometimes think I need to 'take one for the team' for my DH's sake. :laughing: .
Well, kelsey has been a good girl. She is a restless sleeper during the day but makes up for it with fantastic night sleeps. Last night was another 9pm-5.30am sleep. I can't believe how fast she is growing. She loves sitting propped up on a couple of pillows and has to be within sight of DS so she can watch him playing otherwise she gets upset.
Take care everyone.
Tabby... I just have to say that the photo of Kaitlin in your Av is gorgeous... what a beautiful little girl !!
Thankyou icugal!
Hels: Welcome home! Hope your recovery is fast and your feeling like your old self again very soon. :hugs:
Why have they a said c-sec next time?
Rest well.
Flicka: Glad to see things are going well. Nice sleeps there at nights for you. Im the same even if we have unsettled day sleeps as long as the nights are good I don't care.
Turns out cl had his file just sitting there waiting! was to be looked at on the 13th of april.why? no body knows... anyhow find out friday now if yay or nay, fingers crossed for yay because then we get a backpay for 6 weeks of it.
xx
Vicki & Katie
aries_moon
20-03-2007, 20:46
just a quick one to report my little man now weighs, at 5.5 weeks old.........6.2 kilos, or 13 lbs!! good god! :D
WOW!!! How big was X born?
wild at heart
20-03-2007, 23:04
Hi everyone,
Well was away in NSW visiting family for my grandmother's 80th and have only been back for 24 hours. Alexander was soo great and has somehow learnt to love the car for sleeping.. what the? He was always a SCREAMER but now.. it's like he has been drugged- as soon as he gets in the car it's like.. "oh well betta sleep". I really don't understand, but maybe he's just learning to be a better boy!!
I don't know if any of you remember, but Alexander had an abcess on his bottom about 3.5 weeks ago.. well after three lots of antibiotics it is still there and pathology has revealed that it contains bottom bacteria which seems to indicate that he may have a leaky gut where maybe the bowel hasn't formed properly. evidently is quite common, but we have to take him to the paed surgeon tomorrow. Unfortunately dh is away out of until thurs nite so it will be me going by myself.
It's dh first week back at work after having 9 weeks off to help me (needless to say today was awful with Alexander not wanting to sleep). It was also the first day in his new cot- he was bashing his head up at the end of the bassinet so I had to make up the cot- he looks soooooo small in the bottom of the cot (even though he is a very tall baby..!)
Hels, I hope you feel better soon and take it easy. Is your mum still around to help you?
Charis- you are amazing at how you can cope with soo much on your own. You should write a book on how you do it.
wild at heart
20-03-2007, 23:13
Hey tabby- noticed cute Kaitlyn with cloth nappies on and wondered what covers you use? I have cloth but haven't used them much as Alexander seems to coak right through them. How do you find them?
Anyone else have any suggestions?
Any good fold for boys that anyone can recommend?
Hi
Arh the world of happy sleep. That was such a nice true statement Flicka (?) about loving them all even more when they're asleep. And I only have 1! So peaceful.
Hels hope you're going okay, everything must be hard! All that moving/sitting/toilets all over again. But at least its all getting better :hugs:
2CuteKidz - sorry about C scar.
Gosh such nice supportive helpful people. Thanks! Bleeding a bit on and off, I did get worried about it at 6wks after a run and Dr said normal, I also asked at 8wks and heard the same. Nothing for a day or so..But I am hearing you about getting it checked if I'm concerned.
Wild at HeartAll he best for paed appt! V sweet about writing a book, ha..I think Hunter is the book :-) So of course I hope he turns out to be a really really good one. He really enjoyed his new xylophone today and almost understands his hands. My work has taken a big decline. As long as it doesn't stress me or him then its okay, but thanks for the thoughts!! :)
Sometimes no DP means no cooking/cleaning for anyone else, but do miss the shared closeness. Major issue with H's Dad is his inconsistency, I can just handle it, but don't want H to suffer inconsistency at any age.
Tabby yes, v sorry about CL! I almost lost it in there and I am relatively calm/happy/stable kinda person who understands understaffed organisations. But if I'd had an explosive device... Yikes and the letters they send 'your claim has been rejected' and mad things like listing my income as $14.37!? I mean what is that?? I am appealing the 'rejection' and now have company tax/personal/stat dec/CSA called all done. So it should all work. Hope yours gets through soon, yup backdated $!! Exciting and owed!
Aries so great about the movies! Awesome, what did you see? Burswood would be halfway between our places prob. KEMH physio class, I'll go for the 2nd time tomorrow..will go each week then. So be great to see you there. 11-12.30 and nice friendly group, lunch after potentially..umm what else did you ask? EBM Hunters only had 2-3 feeds this way, and I've always arrived back soon after and he topped up this way..but last one was about 100ml. Our CHN says express lots of 60ml and freeze/store like this, less waste. The formula bubs drink 150-ml I think. X might drink more, big bubby!!
:ecomcity:
Cate hope the choir rehersal/accompaniment went really well!
Kelsey and Katie both sitting up! YAH. I wish H did..!
Cordelia, great you got that bit implied about 'dense' men, is so hard not to say 'der' to them or worse :)
Our 2nd last CHN Parents Group was about 'protective behavior', aka stranger danger, are others also about this? Was rather hard topic and so so sad to think about. But three good strategies -naming parts of body with proper names - asking permission/telling them what we're doing (ie Mummy is going to change your nappy, to get in a habit from now) - teaching them to verbalise their physical feelings, ie racing heartrate/dry mouth etc. Hmm disturbing isn't it, but empowering too!
xx nite
Hey tabby- noticed cute Kaitlyn with cloth nappies on and wondered what covers you use? I have cloth but haven't used them much as Alexander seems to coak right through them. How do you find them?
Anyone else have any suggestions?
Any good fold for boys that anyone can recommend?
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Just plain elastic waisted/leg plastics, I buy them in pack of 3 from BigW or Kmart. They are very cheap ( couple of $ )but fine for home use,
or you can get these ones
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which has an outer lining that you can get in assorted colors for when your out etc so no need for anything over the top. beware that they seem to be much smaller, hence those there are same size 000 but too tight legs/waist now
I also saw target have some really pretty ones that velcrove up but they wernt cheap but would last longer as they extend for size so good use for $ spent maybe?
Have been hunting for the old type, remember ones with frills on the bum? soo cute! cant find though :(
Hope that helps.
All the best for tomorrow
wild at heart
21-03-2007, 07:11
thanks Tabby!
Good Morning! I am stuffed! Got a mad cleaning urge after dinner last night and had to finish assembling Thankyou cards. Michael had a feed at 5pm and when he still wasn't stirring at 11pm my (.)(.) were just a tad full. I have a let-down from the opp side while I am pumping and last night decided to try and catch it all. Would you believe in 5-6mins I had 140ml from the pump and a further 40mls in the bottle I was holding under the other boob? Ended up with just over 220mls in the end which I then offered to Michael when he finally woke just after midnight! He took 130mls and passed out! It was a bit of a bugger cos that was Michael's big sleep and I had to get up again at 3am, 4:30 till I realised he couldn't possibly be hungry, 5:30 to settle again, 7am to feed and then DS1 woke up. Happy Days!!!
Finally a chance to use the computer! DH is off work all work with his injured ankle and has been hogging it!
Thanks to so many for sharing on the TMI topics. Relieved that what I'm experiencing appears totally 'normal'!
Flicka, your description of the lump of scar tissue at the start of the perineum sounds exactly like what I have. I was cut so doc could use forceps and had 2 stitches. Doesn't cause me pain most of the time, just very ouchy when the area is being stretched. And several months for the hems to heal you say - darn, I was hoping for only a few more weeks.
Sammy G, I try and do pelvic floor exercises but not nearly as often as I should, especially since I have witnessed the problems my mum has suffered. She can't go anywhere without knowing where closest loos are and bringing spare change of clothes just in case and is now looking at having a hysterectomy becasue of severe prolapse :eek: . So as tedious as it is we shoud all be doing these exercises. Should also be doing all the other recommended exercises for back and tummy but they don't seem to make it into my schedule.....
Hels, best wishes for a speedy recovery and no more complications. :fingerscrossed:
Wild at heart, hope Alexander's appointment with paediatrician goes well. Taking my little man for another US tomorrow for follow up on his dilated kidney. Also, you asked about nappy covers and folds. I don't know about folds because I'm using modern cloth nappies which do up pretty much like disposables with either velcro or press studs. It's normal for the nappy to wet right through which is why a good cover is essential. I'm using an assortment of tots bots, motherease and babybeehinds covers (& nappies) which I bought 2nd hand on ebay - I believe these are meant to be more breathable for bub's bum than the plastic/pvc covers you can buy more cheaply at target etc. Still using disposables also, mostly for going out or if DH does the change, but so many $$ and they are filling up our bin way too quickly!
I am being called by Cameron - at least he waited until near the end of my post :) . Back soon if I can get DH off the computer again!
wildatheart
Just to add about the nappies.
Cat13 reminded me with the letting them breath bit.
To help that side of using plastic pants, I tend to leave Katie without the plastics as much as possible. usually mainly at nights ( or have visitors who want to hold lol ). The rest of the time I have another nappy under her, like on the playmat or on my knee so it can breath a bit better and catch any soak throughs :D and I change probably more often that need be.sometimes as soon as wet once, So far thats worked for all 3 of mine and never a nappy rash in sight.
That make sense?
cat13: good luck for some good results tomorrow :hugs:
tired*mummy
21-03-2007, 11:39
Hi everyone
Sierra's CHN appointment went well. She is now 4.4kg and 56.2 cm. So she has grown 2.2cm in just over month and put on 600gms. She's only 1.2kg heavier than at birth. The Health nurse wasnt worried about it and she also said to wait another 2 weeks before she gets her needles, just to make sure that she is completely over her bronchilitis.
She doesnt have another check until 4 months now but the nurse said i can go in whenever just to weigh her. Her office is in the community centre that DD1's kinder is at, so it makes it pretty easy to just pop in for a quick weigh.
Anyway enough :ecomcity:. Must get some things done while Sierra is asleep and the other two are playing together nicely for once lol.
:wave:
Went shopping and had Katie weighed at chemist baby setup ( every wed morn ), shes now 4.840gms (almost 11lbs ). She said thats double birth weight and a good gain. They also can measure but were busy with a freebee day today. so will get that done next week :D . Got another bounty bag and another bag full of goodies, plus got her footprints done, she didnt like that too much lol
*Sparkles*
21-03-2007, 14:39
Tabby - They said I would need a caesar next time because I had to be "re-built" down there. I had a tube unblocked, abcess removed, vagina entrance re-opened & inside re-shaped and scar tissue removed. So it would be best not to mess with it all next time!! I agreed, as there's no way I am going through all this again! The OB told my DH after the op that hopefully we will be able to resume a sex life one day :laughing:
Glad you liked the clothes. How is the job hunting going for DP?
Oh dear bubs is awake, more from me later.
*Sparkles*
21-03-2007, 15:10
Somehow or other Reece re-settled himself so I am back lol
I had a good night and feeling heaps better today, hopefully I will be back to normal soon :fingerscrossed:
I bought some of that Karicare thickner and I've started adding 1 scoop to Reece's bottles. (He drinks 150mls of formula). Since doing that he hardly sicks at all now and last night he fed at 9pm and then again at 4am :smiliedance: it seems to fill him up more and satisfy him.
I had to miss my mother's group again this week so they have said I can start another group next month when I am feeling better, so I am happy about that. The one that I wanted to go to (closer to home) was full this time anyway, so hopefully I will get in next time round.
That's great that everyone's bubs are gaining weight. We have our 8 week appt next week and first lot of needles.
It all seems to get easier after 7 weeks as they start to hold up their heads, feed and sleep better and take an interest in things. The best is yet to come. I can't believe that some of our bubs are almost 3 months old now, where has the time gone???
How many are sleeping through the night now?
sugar n spice
21-03-2007, 15:14
Hels - im happy everything is getting better for you.
Ashton still isnt having big feeds but well he is gaining weight and that is all that matters. sheldon my 2yrold woke up crying last night and wouldnt go to sleep, not sure if he was feeling sick or what so im exhausted. Dh left for bussleton at lunch time and wont be back home till saturday arvo so fun for me dealing with three boys.
Hels: Glad your feeling better! Thanks for clearing up why a c-sec, sorry if nosy. agree that i would go that route too after that! more nosiness.... Did they say why it happened like that? Do tell me to shh if im asking too much!
I was thinking of trying the thickener too so just may have to after your saying hes not as sicky. As also I am about to remove my phone books elevating Katies cot head. I have just gone in to check and found her with wraps up around her head!!! As she wriggles and squirms, she moves down because its elevated and wraps stay up, no matter how snug I make them she squirms till shes undone. Yet cannot sleep without them.
http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=feet004en4.jpg
such a scary thing!!!!!! :eek::eek::eek:
Shes unwrapped now and will fix when awake.
Maybe even use the thickener to help her at nights even so less spewy when trying to go to sleep now I cant elevate it to help
Anyone have any ideas how to get her out of wanting to be wrapped/swaddled and sleeping well appreciated???
I did read somewhere that can do it slowly by leaving first one arm out then 2 and wrapping chest down, but hoped for a faster solution.
Sleeping for us is 8pm-4or5am back to sleep after small feed till 8ish. almost there
sugar: hope the fellas dont give you too hard a time while DH away :hugs:
Ellembee
21-03-2007, 15:53
Tabby - although that picture of Kaitlyn with the wrap around her head is scary - it is also just too cute!
Hels - Glad the operation went well. You certainly have had a rough time since your bubs was born. Lets hope things look up from here! btw - I had a caesar due to dd being a breech baby - and although I was initially disappointed I would never have a natural birth - I found the whole thing quite fun in a very odd way. From reading your posts - you seem to me to be someone who likes to have things under control - and a caesar certainly allows that.
Us - We had our needles today. We both cried out eyes out. She is now doing better than me. I can't get the look on her face out of my head - it was like she was pleading with me. It was horrendous!
*Sparkles*
21-03-2007, 15:56
LOL at that photo Tabby!! Why don't you try one of those light weight sleeping bags? They come in different togs for the weather.
I don't mind answering your questions. They said it happened due to me pushing for 2 hours and then the vacuum extraction and 1st degree tear. The abcess was on the site of the stitches (in the perenium area) which got infected. But I think I was just unlucky really.
With the thickener, it says to use 2 scoops but I just use 1 to introduce it more slowly and I don't think he needs anymore than that. Today I have cut it back to 3/4 of a scoop during the day and I will do 1 scoop at night. He fed at 12pm and it's now 5pm and he's just waking for his next one. So he's cut out another feed now. My book says he should have 5-6 bottles of 120mls-150mls at this age, so he's right on target :thumbsup:
I got given a blanket today from one of my SIL's with Reece's name and DOB embroidered on it, it's so cute and a very thoughtful gift.
I agree it was too cute, after the initial shock lol
Ellembee :hugs: for you both!
Hels: how much is the thickener?
aww how cute is your gift!!! Something like that that can be treasured forever is the best gift I think
Tabby - Cameron is the exact same with his wrap. Sometimes a 'daddy wrap' does the job and he stays nice and snug but if he's determined not even one of DH's tightest wraps holds him in. The expressions on his face as he works his way out are priceless. I feel bad he spends so much time swaddled instead of being able to stretch his limbs out but same as Katie, he cannot/will not sleep without a wrap.
Half the time we have such a battle getting him wrapped in the first place and I feel terrible because he puts up such an angry fight but it's the only way he'll settle to sleep and stay asleep. Sometimes have to re-wrap several times before he actually stays in one and goes to sleep (luckily usually once is enough after his night feed).
Have bought some grobags for when he's a bit biggger but not sure how he'll go because it's really his hands that are most trouble when he escapes the wrap.
victoria75
21-03-2007, 16:40
Just wanted to answer the questions about wrapping, both my DS's were big fans of the wrap and we did it until they were 6 months old. We didnt use a traditional wrapping technique though. Therefore it held them better. We then used the 1 arm out etc to get them used to being unwrapped. Worked a treat.
Then when needed used a sleeping bag after 6 months.
Good Luck to all.
thanks everyone for the tips.
will have to start the one arm in for now, will try it tonight. :fingerscrossed:
Cant afford the sleeping bag this week, so maybe will have her settled without by the time we can.
victoria: How did you wrap if not the traditional way?
*Sparkles*
21-03-2007, 17:42
Tabby - The thickener was about $10-$15 (I can't remember lol). But it will last for ages I think and can also be used in food.
HI!!
Well Millie (Emily) had her needles today :crying: It was awful to watch - it doesn't get any easier no matter how many times you watch your kids go through it. She's a bit grumpy now (understandably), she's had her panadol - hopefully that'll kick in soon.......
Ok - back now - she's in bed :fingerscrossed: she'll have a good night.
Had a long consult with my ob today, he checked my scar - healing well after infection and has put me onto antibiotics for my uterus as it's infected again - thats why I am bleeding heavily again - it hasn't really stopped for nine weeks :banghead: !!!
Had a good talk to Dr about the c-sect and why it was needed and about my being upset that it was my fault. I do feel a lot better now that I've spoken to him - he was very kind and understanding and really listened. He has an excellent beside manner. I explained to him about my fears of our bub being stillborn etc (not sure I talked about that here?) and he confided that he had delivered a stillborn baby born last week and was still loosing sleep over it. We then went on to talk about VBAC and I asked him his opinion about what we should do if/when we have another bub and he broke down, turns out the stillborn bub was a VBAC and the mum had a uterine rupture (which Dr said he's never seen before). I was so moved and touched by his emotions and so glad that he was so honest with us. I have definatley decided that I'll go for an elective c-sect next time and not beat myself up about it. Overall he convinced me that every decision that I made was right for me at that time and he's right! My baby is gorgeous, alive and healthy - can't ask for more!
Millie now weighs 6.5kgs (9wks old) - she's just about off the chart - her weight and height are in the 95th percentile but her head is in the 75th and has been from birth - it's consistant but he's told us to keep an eye on her weight and make sure her head keeps up. We have been advised to weigh her every 4wks (wasn't to worried about weighing bub as is second bub is seems to be growing well), so I'll need to watch it I guess?? She's smiling and gooing and gaaing at 9wks - are everyone else's bubs doing this too? Can't remember whats "normal".
Anyway she's up again - better go............... sorry no personals......... sorry its a long one just needed to talk .......:ecomcity:
Cordelia
21-03-2007, 19:20
Your photo looks exactly like how caitlin appears some mornings! We got her a sleeping bag but she really does need to be wrapped still - and it was a little big as well.
I've found the only way to keep her in the wrap when you put her down is to literally place your hand firmly down on her arms!!! and then pat with the other hand until she gets dozy and stops struggling... oh my gosh!! That sounds so terrible now that i've put that down on the screen.
2cutekidz: i envy you that you had such a good chat with your doctor!! Tha'ts great - sounds like you've cleared your head about stuff. Interesting about the VBAC versus elective caesarean stuff... what's the risk of a uterine rupture do you know??
Hels good you're all fixed up!! Hope you recover well and can move on with your new family :)
well, i'd better prepare my throne (breastfeeding chair) for Neighbours.... Izzy's back!
Josh is doing better today. He slept from 4pm til 7:30pm today so I got a rest for 1 1/2 hours and I cooked a complicated dinner and got to eat it (although only just finished before he completely cracked it!).
He's lying in his bassinette in the lounge now making lots of noise, it's so funny. I think he's irritated with his hiccups, he is making so many different little noises ... so cute! :) He discovered his hands yesterday and wants them in his mouth all the time ... he settled easier today with both arms out of his wrap. That might be why he's making noise, I suppose I should check ...
Cait ... that's sad about the stillbirth isn't it? Uterine rupture may be a remote risk, but for me it doesn't matter if it's remote or not I wouldn't have a VBAC because of that risk.
hels ... glad you are feeling better. Hopefully it all gets better and better from here on in. You've had a really rough time. Glad the thickener is helping. It has helped my neice with her reflux. My SIL was told that she could put 1 - 4 scoops of thickener in a bottle and to just see what works best. For her, 1 scoop is plenty. Have you got new teats for your bottles? My SIL uses avent bottles and got the multiflow teats and they work really well with the thick formula.
Lukeandmattsmum
21-03-2007, 21:12
Had Matt weighed today and he is 5.7kg at 9 1/2 weeks. He has been doing lots of talking and smiling this week, it is so cute. Its like he has settled into a nice little routine this week.:fingerscrossed: i didn't just jinx myself lol. He has also started to really take notice of his toys when he is in his bouncer and has a little chat to them and wacks them.
Matt hasn't been wrapped since he came home, he just hated it. I think being close to 40 degree heat didn't help. So now i just put him down and he settles with the help of his mobile.
When i was nannying the little girl was being wrapped and we just weaned her one arm at a time. Probably just took a bit over a week.
sugar n spice
21-03-2007, 21:21
Well i have had such a long day and i have had two lots of splitting headaches one of which i have right now. Sheldon has an ear infection and is on anti biotics this evening. Hopefully he will sleep ok tonight. He's asleep now after a dose of neurofen. My dr even gave me a free sml bottle of neurofen. I love it when they do it as it adds up medication.
Ashton loves his hands, there always in his mouth
Audrey is still sleeping through......:fingerscrossed: :fingerscrossed: :fingerscrossed: :fingerscrossed: It's heavenly!!!!! A friend of mine said that you'll love your child a little more when they sleep through!!! Oh yeah!
Well choir rehearsal was hard work!! My eyes were sore, my back was sore, my brain was sore! But it was nice to be out and "working". I got a phone call from DH about 10mins after leaving home....Aud did the worst nappy ever! It went everywhere apparently!!! Back front and both legs!!!! So DH has his first chance do a pooey nappy and swears that he will never do one again!!!
Better go...I hear a waking child!
It can be hard to work out when to go out can't it? Josh fed at 7:30am and I have to go and drop something off before 2pm, so I assumed I'd go after his next feed. He slept from 8:30 - 10am, then wanted to play. I thought about going out then, but I also needed to do some grocery shopping and didn't want to be in coles with a screaming, hungry baby. So, he's been happily playing in his bouncer since 10am. I've been waiting for him to get hungry ... but he's now sound asleep in his bouncer! :) Oh well, I do have plenty to do at home, but if he's still asleep in an hour I'll have to think about waking him or something ...
Yes, I was just thinking about that one myself! Going out : For a while we were going out at the same time each day..if he wakes early before his 2nd morning feed then I'd almost get 'there' wherever it might be before he was hungry. But have got the timing all wrong a few times.
How else do we all do it??
Question for the already cot moved: I don't have an 'angel care' and for his nightfeed I just hear him awake and beginning to kick around, but when he'll not just be next to me, do you still hear them/sense they're awake? In the mornings a bit of a rock and shsh and he'll often go another1/2hr. Precious shw/brekky time. Will this still work in a cot?? :)
Yes, joyful gurgles, recognition of his mobiles, smiles from 6ish wks, almost knows his hands belong to him..well sucking them. Saliva production in full swing, bubbles! No rolling yet, phew! Lovely little honey!!
Vicki/Tabby beautiful new Katie photo :wave: Oh I use a stretchy cotton wrap sometimes when its not hot, much harder to houdini out of. I also keep his hands up, near his face. But use muslin the rest of the time like you.
Sugar hope no headaches today, all the best for Mum+boys time!!
Cate great on the sleep through!! :smiliedance:
Hunter pretty much just took one side in his night feed, is this the beginning of the end of nights?
sugar n spice
22-03-2007, 11:25
Well all the boys slept well last night, i went to bed early but still woke up exhausted. Thank goodness i got shel to the dr at the end of the day otherwise last night would have been hard i bet.
Just a relaxing day in today, well if you call cleaning relaxing.
Hels - may i ask how is and how did you get the abcess i have never heard of that happening. Im glad you are on the mend:hugs:
Charis, I arrange my day assuming Michael will do the worst case scenario and want to feed every 3hrs (thankfully it had never been less than that). That means if we are driving a fair way I make sure I won't be in the car. Sometimes it means staying somewhere longer than planned. We have had to stop the car and feed once as soon as we got off the freeway, there's no way to settle a hungry bub except by feeding. Luckily Michael feeds at about 9am every morning so I try to be prepared to leave straight away after feed. I will hold him off a bit if I need to be somewhere a touch later, he can lie, kick & grunt for 1/2 an hour before he cries with an empty tummy.
I wish Michael would get his days & nights worked out. He slept from 6pm till Midnight but then fed at 3am, 6am & 9am. He was grisly during Gymbaroo with Ben too, turned out he'd done his 2nd ginormous poo of the day, caught it just as it started to leak after it had filled back/front & sides!
Sugar, How do you keep up with all your cleaning? I'm not a total grub but just keeping up with laundry, bathing ourselves, picking up toys (only at the end of the day to prevent nocturnal accidents) cooking and washing up does my head in. The vacuuming, mopping and dusting doesn't get a look-in unless guests are coming.
I hear you SammyG. I try and do a load of washing in the morning and do the breakfast dishes. That's about all I manage.
Well we took off to playgroup yesterday morning, hadn't been in a few weeks and when we got there, it wasn't on!! Not an easy outing for me either, we have to get the bus. A toddler, a baby and a stroller in 30 degree heat...argghh i was sooo annoyed. Poor Jenna was pretty upset too. So we went back and got on the bus again. Then my doctor called to cancel my appt. Just one of those days....
And today my air-con is playing up. Luckily it's not too hot today.
Jenna is giving us a hard time at the moment. She's certainly testing her boundries.. She co-sleeps with us and has been waking up during the night saying she's got a belly ache, then she's hungry...she's hungry all day. Already checked her for worms :laughing: . Not sure if she's really in pain or if it's an attention thing. Feel a bit silly, i should know, but she hasn't been sick very much at all so I don't know what her usual signs would be. I think it's attention but just not 100% sure :confused:
I have been settling Koby all morning in his bassinette. He's had two 50 minute naps and it took me about 40mins to settle for this nap. Hopefully he stays down for a few hours. I think he's getting used to the swing...he can sleep for hours in there, but don't want to rely on it all the time. Easier said than done.
K's 7 week check-up stats were: weight 5.6kg length 62cm HC 40cm. He's nearly outgrowing his 000 clothes!
Hel's glad to hear your on the mend. :hugs:
*Sparkles*
22-03-2007, 13:18
Sugar - I am gradually feeling better, thanks for asking. The abcess happened because I had a 1st degree tear with stitches and the site got infected. There is a tube down there that got blocked (it helps lubricate the vaginal area, apparently). There is a medical term for what I had but I forgot what it is, began with a B.
Well, AF has decided to visit, not the best timing!! At least I hope it is AF and not bleeding from the proceedure. I'm pretty sure that it is as the blood is different (sorry TMI) and women just know these things don't they.
Last night Reece drank over 200mls of milk before bed, that's his biggest feed yet. I thought he might sleep longer but no such luck lol. One good thing about adding the thickener to his feeds is that his poos are now more like when I was BF'ing, eg like mustard and not so smelly. Before this they were green and feral, we called them "the beast" :laughing: He is also going more often and not straining as much.
sugar n spice
22-03-2007, 13:50
Hels- its good to hear you are doing better
sammy g- on your question about the housework. Well i do about three loads of washing in the morning and hang them up when bubs is asleep. I mop the floor hopefully twice a wk at night when the kids are asleep. vacuming well that happens when i have a spare moment, it used to be everyday but now im lucky if it's every three days. Cleaning the bathrooms and toilets once a wk and well the showers there on the list:laughing:. its just a matter of doing something in the little spare gaps i get.
on the outings issue. i feed bubs before i go out. i try to go out after his first morning feed for the day.
Hi all,
Cordelia: yup and i just tried to leave one arm out to slowly get her out of it, to no avail! She just kept whacking that loose arm about like she does when both are lol. Ah well I have removed the tilt on her cot so hopefully wont get as bad as yesterday now she cant slide down as easy.
Not too long now and will be cool enough for sleepers/grobags etc anyhow.
Mim: yep Katie found her hands a couple of weeks back, now there is no stopping her. oh and her tounge, shes totally fascinated by it, makes hard get a photo without it poking out lol
Nice that josh is more settled and you got a lovely dinner done AND eaten. Im sure they know!
I refuse to lock onto appointment times at the moment (unless totally necessary ). soooo hard to time things. ill be there when I get there, giving them a time frame of 2 hrs lol.
Lukeandmattsmum: Glad to see things are going smoothly routine for you. Hope it stays.
Keep seeing everyones bub's weight and really do realize just how small Katie is now ive had her weighed (4840 at 12 weeks), shes older than most here but less that most. heh think she will be a dainty little thing
Cate: YAY nice to see the sleep throughs have continued for yous.
Charis: With Katie I have a cheap monitor (50 from bigw) because shes chucky I worry more but with ds1 and 2 I never did and always heard them. Think its like a motherly sense thing maybe?
Katie quite often nods back off for another half hr or so ( coffee time lol ), thats with giving the dummy. Sometimes she will even lay there and just look around. You might find that too, that hes quite happy to lay there and look at everything while you grab that brekkie :D
Sugar: hope your feeling a bit better now.:hugs:
Sammy: same here loads of washing and then the drier, only becuase I wont have to hang/fetch and iron! and then the dishes, oh and pickup things around the house is about my limit. Good thing about DP home off work tho,like vac and sweep done by him.
Since removal of cot tilt it wasnt so bad with the sliding down, am also getting the thickener tonight so will add to night feeds to help her reflux when asleep. :fingerscrossed:
Other than that nothing new here, most job interviews were reply by tomorrow so fingers are all crossed.
oh and its our anniversary tomorrow! Am quite sad tho that we cant do what we usually do, stay "our" hotel with spa and dinner. Cant even afford dinner out :crying:
hope everyones well
Sorry for the short post before but I am desperately trying to get Audrey to breastfeed for longer and less bottles so I'm trying to get her before she works up too much of a cry!
Hels glad to hear things are on the mend...I can't imagine how painful that would be!
I went to GP yesterday about how my low milk supply is really getting me down...i'm doing everything...feeding/expr as frequently as I can, fenugreek, i've even tried the lactation boosting cookies!!! I asked if there was any medication that could help my supply....he said no! . Are any of you out there on something.....I swore that there was something I could take that would help....any advice is greatly welcomed. I really want to keep bfeeding and would like to not have to use comp bottles.
Not much else to report except that Aud must be growing!!! She's been as cranky as the last few days...put on quite a display in woolies today - and of course doesn't everyone tell you that they must be hungry.....I felt like screaming NO! I just stuffed her full of food so that I could shop in peace...she crying because she needs to sleep but can't becuase she's crying!!!! Thankfully she did nod off by about aisle 4.
I'm becoming the master of the quick clean.....dh does floors every weekend and I just generally dust and do bathrooms whenever they fit in.
Cate - I thought there was something that you could take for stimulating milk production as I have heard of mothers that have adopted children breast-feeding their adopted kiddies and I have always wondered why Dr's don't prescribe it to BF patients with low milk supply???? Other then that I don't know anymore.......... sorry!
Hels - Glad to hear you are on the mend, how painful that must be :hugs:
Re the wrapping - we wrap bub tightly two different ways depending on who's more determined. Both ways are with the wrap folded over at the top (like a lip) and her hands placed under the fold - then her hands are either "allowed" up near her face or they are put into "jail" down near her sides or across her pelvis, so far she hasn't managed to wriggle out much. DS was wrapped until about 6 months - then he used to escape too much so gave up, by then they have a bit more arm control so it was no big deal leaving the wrap behind.
Re housework - whats that???? lol, whenever I can (read: when it starts to annoy me!).
US - It's DH's first day back at work today (after NINE weeks). Bubs woke at 4.30am for a feed and I was very full and I thought this is great she'll have a big feed and go down for a nice long sleep by about 5am, just when DH is due to leave for work and I'll get to have a nice snooze with the bed all to myself - however it wasn't meant to be.... After her almighty feed I sat her on my lap for the satisfied burp and she promptly porjectile vomited all over DH - the entire breast full!!! He sat up in bed dripping with reguritated milk blinking at me with this look of absolute horror - seems that he had been in a deep sleep :laughing:, "just get in the shower" was my response. Needless to say entire bed linen required changing as did mine and bubs clothes! DH left at 5am (showered) and I had to re-feed miss empty belly. I did get my bed-to-myself-sleep for about an hour then DS woke me :devil6:
Anyway - best get organising dinner, I am sure DH will be expecting me to cook :eek: (dream on babycakes lol).
Cordelia
22-03-2007, 16:33
sugar: what a good housekeeper you are!! Oh my gosh - I'm lucky if the lounge gets all the junk put away. And the dishwasher gets loaded - and the washing makes it from the washing machine to the dryer (as if It'll ever make it to the clotheslines!!) Our CHN was telling us to do a superficial clean - to just roughly dust everything and I wsa like - dusting?!? Do I even own a duster?!?
cate: how frustrating for you :/ I hope someone has some ideas - apart from expressing regularly I have no idea sorry but I hope it works out.
Hels: what stupid timing for AF! Sometimes I think that these things are sent to drive us insane.
Just when we had a week of Caitlin sleeping thru she has decided to wake at 2:30 again - I don't know WHAT we're doing differently - so frustrating!!! She has been ahving a sleep from around 5:30-7:30 b4 we put her to bed at 9 after bath and bed so maybe I'll try and keep her up tonight utnil bed time... it was just so nice to have that time for me and DH!! i've managed to get Neiughbours every night this week! LUXURY!
I'm getting better at the whole timing of feeds and going out - if i'm going out i give her a feed or a top up or aim to be somewhere i can feed her when i think she needs it (which tends to be 2 hours and 45 minutes - still really close together).
Sugar, you've made me guilty about my house so I'm going to go vaccuum the lounge!
Cate - I have heard that 'one bottle of beer' gets the milk going, something to do with the yeast:yes:
Have just got the karicare thickener and so glad I did. Her last 2 bottles today she didnt stop spilling it up! It should work as the s26 ar helped but made her sleepy and lethargic ( hence why didnt continue) and am going do what you suggested Hels and just do one scoop, hopefully to be much more gentler on her .
I posted in the tips for parents section on wrapping Katie and had some great ideas, like use a cot sheet/sarong/etc as they are bigger and will tuck under really well, even tucking the end under the mattress. Hoping thats the only reason why shes getting out so easily ( too small now ) Thought Ide share that here incase anyone else wants to try it.
Will let you know how we go tomorrow
good sleeps to all the mums and bubs xx
Strawberry_Shortcake
22-03-2007, 21:28
Cate -There are two tablets you can take to increase milk supply. They are Moxolon and Motilium. I took Motilium to increase my milk supply. If i can remember rightly its 3 tablets a day for 5 days. My milk increased within 24 hours. You can't get it over the counter at the chemist, you well have to go to the dr first to get a script. It worked well for me. Hope that helps you.
Cheers
Kel
hi all
I was just going to post and suggest Moxolon too - I've heard of it and know you need a script but haven't heard any first hand reports. Not sure why your dr said there wasn't anything available?!
well Hamish seems to have turned a corner in the last 3 days and I'm finding it quite easy to get him to sleep during the day - still for only 45 minutes to an hour at a time but 3 times a day at least and minimal struggle. I'm still not sure how I will get him to sleep when he moves to a cot though as I do rely on being able to rock the pram back and forth. I've been trying to pretend it only moves as much as a cot but often failing!
I weighed him at parenting class on Wednesday and he's now 6.24kg and 59cm long. We've got a great group who are going to meet for coffee now the classes are finished and are organising a babies first aid course and a babies signing class (free at the library if there are enough takers apparently). The first aid will probably be in East Freo if anyone is interested when I book it?
Does anyone know much about teething? Hamish is only 11 weeks (tomorrow) but has been really chewing his hands, my hand/ finger etc. and drooling and quite a few people have suggested it could be teething. It isn't upsetting him but still could take a couple of weeks I think. I don't think he's strong enough to hold anthing to chew on just yet.
sorry this has all been :ecomcity: about us and no personals - sounds like everyone is doing ok and sleeping is getting more settled.
I was determined to go to bed at 9 tonight so best head off - I rarely make it before 10 and really need some :sleeping: as I don't seem to manage day naps at all at the moment.
kx
freddie,
I think its just the age ( katies 12 weeks this sat ) they are at because Katie has been doing exactly that this last week with the dribbling and all. think its just that this is the time where everything starts to go into their mouths and also the start of making saliva? i do remember someone saying before that until now they wernt able to produce it?. She found her hands 2 weeks ago but only this last few days can co-ordinate them perfectly to her mouth, her fist or my finger usually , oh and teddys ears if hes handy lol
Am waiting for K to wake but nothing since 6.30 She had last feed at 530 and bed 630. I think she thinks that was it for the night, So now she will most likely wake at about 1-2am! Had even unwrapped her an hr ago and nothing lol. typical
Suppose ill head to bed too, better get a couple hrs in before waking.
xx
Hels you're multitasking with maternity pads. Sorry if thats way rude..just needed a giggle aboutsomething so not giggle material :) Though I imagine walking/giggling are all v painful.Hope yr mending well.
Tabby happy anniversary!!!!! Being home with yr beautiful Katie+yr DH is v special too.
Hunter is 5.27 at 9wks + 68cm. Tallish/leanish. I think his eyes are changing blue to brown?? Anyones else?
GOSH terrible second a little while ago. His Dad came over to look after him while I went for a run, #5 so far. Hadn't seen or heard from him since Sunday..anyhow he was giving him his bath (I was back)and H's little kicky feet must have dislodged the plug thing. And water started draining out. Dunno how but his first reaction was to let go of H!!!!!! It was less than a second, a few milliseconds really and he'd grabbed and lifted screaming/drowning H-y out, so so fast. I can;t remember moving there, but it was as fast as I've ever moved.We were all shaking. H was crying,I was crying.His Dad was v wet! GOD what a terrible instant.
He cried a cry I've never heard and never want to again, one of real shock/distress/surprise.Of course he didn't know what happened, just an instant submerged and then wrenched from his warm, relaxing bath a few minutes later H was all calm and having a massage. We were almost calm. Gosh am reliving it, now! Will use less water from now on just in case..I know they can drown in any amount, but isn't worth the danger!
So YES can I tag onto yr first aid course Freddie. Is it something like $150 shared between 10 or so attendees. Although after our scare tonight, its absolutely priceless the health/safety of our bubs. :angel:
Happy sleeps xx
oh and no prob NOT teething, Babylove arrived via amazon and its great book, a heap of detailed development stages and myths 'ie everyone will tell you they're teething..like they tell you they must be HUNGRY' 8-12wks they're developing saliva though not knowing about swallowing it much..and are enamored with their hands. So Hamish sounds perfect :yelclap: oops yes just read Tabbys yes we're all in with the hands :yes:
StrawberryShortcake....thanks for that I even told him I thought it was Motilium or Maxalon.....dill!
I've just been on the ABA website and they have both listed there as well. I have quite a supply of maxalon left from when I was pregnant so i might try those. If not I'll print the ABA info and go back to him!!! You think he'd be trying to encourage me to continue!!!!
Charis, have to agree with you on Babylove. It was my bible with Jenna and has come out of hybernation for Koby.
I have Robin Barkers 'Baby and Toddler meals' and her follow on book 'Mighty Toddler'...love Robin :laughing:
Freddie - Koby is the same with sleeps, he goes down ok, but he won't sleep for more than 40 mins. I try and go in and re-settle him for that second sleep cycle but he just becomes more alert and restless, wanting to get up. Maybe that's all he needs as he is pretty happy when he's awake. I just wish he'd have a bit more. Oh well when I really want him to have more, i can stick him in the swing.
Well I went to the docs last night and I have an infection. I knew it wasn't right down there. I'm on antibiotics and then will go back and see how it is. Gosh I hope the antibiotics do their job and there is no other probs. :fingerscrossed: Such an awful place to be prodded, poked and peered at :o
Just a quick one girls - sorry haven't had a chance to read all of your posts. Will come back when kids are asleep for personals.....
I just brought a load of kelseys clothes in from the line and folded them up. left one outfit on the change table for her to wear and went to give her a bath. When I came back from the bath to dress her - there was a big spider on her outfit!!!!:eek: AAAARRRGGHHH! I hate spiders and I was stressing thinking "what if i had put the outfit on her and she got bitten???". It must have come in from the washing line. Needless to say he has now gone to spidey heaven and I got all of the clean clothes out and shook them to make sure he didn't have any friends......
cate ... my SIL went on motilium, but her GP wasn't that keen on prescribing it cause of the potential side effects. Although it is listed on the ABA site and lactation consultants say to use it, it is not actually licenced as one of the official uses of it. That's why doctors don't know much about it and don't want to use it. My SIL did get it though ... and spent the next 2 days throwing up - it's one of the side effects (which settles with ongoing use).
A non drug way of increasing your supply is to express half way between feeds (eg 2 hours after a feed). I did this for a couple of days and had a massive increase in supply. It's really hard work and cause there is a slight delay in the increased supply I didn't realise i'd nearly overdone it til I'd been doing it for 48 hours and suddenly was very close to getting mastitis cause i had TOO much milk.
Josh is a bit of a slob now too :laughing: I mean that his slobber is going on his clothes and his wraps ... in fact I can hear sucking coming from his bassinette now - I think he's found his hands again! :) He's meant to be asleep :).
Josh did wake up shortly after I posted yesterday and we got out by 12:30pm, so it wasn't too bad. BUT, it was really hot and I couldn't wait to get home. He slept so well overnight! I fed him at 10pm, he was asleep by 11pm and didn't wake til 4am! I got 5 hours of sleep in a row - that's always something to celebrate. he was asleep again by 5am and didn't wake til 8:30am! Wow! i got a sleep in! By 9:15am he was grumpy and wanted to sleep again and now, an hour later he's still asleep. He was so restless during the day and not sleeping like this last week, it's a relief to know that it is not normal and it must have been cause of his vaccinations and his cold.
Well, I have a huge list of things to do, so I should go.
I should mention that the house hasn't been moped or vacuumed since Josh was a week old (when we got a cleaner in). I also have enough trouble making sure there are enough clean bottles (and I only need 3 a day) and clean plates for dinner ... vacuuming is definitely not high on my priority list.
tired*mummy
23-03-2007, 09:53
Hi everyone,
Hels - Hope you are recovering well.
Regarding Milk supply... i was on motilium with DD2 because she was so prem my milk had to be stimulated. The motilium worked really well for me and i didnt have any side effects. Well not that i can remember anyway.
Sierra is much better. She still has a cough but it sounds like its getting a little better which is good. She was quite grumpy yesterday. It was hot and i was taking the older to and from kinder so she was getting annoyed that she couldnt sleep and be left alone. Shes feeding alot better too. She's still only having 100mls in her bottles but at least its back up to 100mls and not still on 50-60mls as it was when she was sick. I dont think she has gone thru her growth spurt stage yet so i'm still waiting for her to increase her feeds. She slept pretty well last night. Went down at 8:30 and woke at 1:30am. Then was back to sleep by 1.45am and slept til 6:10 so that wasnt too bad. Woke again at 8am for about 30mins and fell asleep again then woke up and i gave her a bath and a feed and is now fast asleep, so she should be down for a couple of hours now.
As for housework... I do 2-3 loads of washing a day and hang it out in the morning, some in the evening if its hot to dry overnight. I load my dishwasher every night and unload it every morning. I vaccum and mop 2 a week, tidy up the bathroom everyday lol but scrub it once a week, and basically just tidying up and odd bits of cleaning everyday. I feel like it never ends. Sometimes i think stuff it i cant be bothered doing it but end up doing it everyday cause if i dont do it nobody else will. DH is apparently too tired :rolleyes: Isnt that always the way!
Hope you all have a great weekend. Take call all.
:wave:
Hi everyone,
Well, it has taken just over 7 weeks for me to be brave enough to go to the mall with both boys on my own. I don't have a toddler seat for the pram yet but my baby bjorn active arrived on Monday so now I can finally shop during the day. Just spent an hour happily looking at clothes (for DS, not me yet) while DS chattered away happily to anyone who would listen and Michael slept! Woo Hoo!!!
wild at heart
23-03-2007, 11:42
hi..
9 wks -alexander 5.8 kg and 61cm.
doesn't want to sleep today- protesting!!! just fell asleep in my arms after me trying to settle him in new cot since around 10ish.
routine was going great until visiting parents in nsw last week. now A seems better when we are out and about than home. v frustrating.
tummy time- A doesn't really like it and consequently doesnt hold head up as well as little Hunter!
doesn't getting petrol with bub in car suck!!! had a revelation y'day when i went to petrol stn that had driveway service!! its sad the things that excite a mother, hey!!
charis: Katies eyes are changing to blue! Really noticed it with sons new camera last night, Shes got mummys eyes YAY.
whew bet your heart was in your mouth with the bath incident! glad alls ok :hugs:
jennasmum: hope the antibiotics clear it up fast!
Cheeki: Thanks :D .
Glad the twins are on the up! ahh arnt those giggles just adorable! Katie started real laughter this last week too. Everyone laughs at me as I do silly things to make her laugh, I just cant get enough of it.
Flicka: Did you leave them out overnight? I find if I leave clothes on the line overnight that spiders usually get in there somewhere! If they make it to the line ( drier mostly ) I try to get them in while still hot/warm/sun out before they decide to get cosy at dusk/nightfall in there.
that make sense ? lol
tiredmummy: Glad Sierras on the mend YAY
Well last night after I posted K awoke so we got a 10pm bath/feed in and bed by 10.30 with the first thickener in formula. she didnt wake till almost 5 am after an hr of sleepy noises. So far so good, three bottles and very very little yuckup! woohoo! Thanks hels!!! Great idea for the one scoop :hugs:
Re: wrapping. argh I give up lol Its ok now the beds not tilted making her slide down so she will just unwrap when she does. I tired the cot sheet to no avail, she was all undone again..
ah well.
uhoh shes awake
be back later
xx
thanks for the advice on drooling/ teething everyone. Hamish started drooling heaps a few weeks ago and then it stopped so I thought he'd learned that its supposed to be swallowed. Now its started again and a few people have thought he might be teething. Its not upsetting him so we'll just have to wait and see!
Charis the first aid course is about $150 for 10 people I think yes. I haven't called about it yet - will let you know.
My DH went to the physio this morning for his back and I asked him to ask her about Hamish wanting to sit up and 'stand' all the time - he loves standing and locks his knees so its hard to make him sit. She said it was a big no no and that he needs to be supported but its so hard when he's always craning his head to be upright as possible. I know its important for them to crawl first if possible but there's only so much tummy time he'll put up with. Anyone else had this problem?
Also, we're still feeding every 2 1/2 hours which seems really frequent compared to everyone else? It doesn't really bother me though. Night times have been 5 + 2.5 + 2.5 the last few nights. Hope we can move to 7 + 3 very soon!
have a great weekend, anyone have easter holiday plans? I'm a bit disappointed that the reflux people say no chocolate if you're breastfeeding!
kx
*Sparkles*
23-03-2007, 13:37
2cutekidz - Sorry but I have to laugh at your story about the regurgitated breast milk all over your DH, what a great mental picture! :laughing:
Tabby - Go easy when starting Katie on the thickener as Reece now has a bit of diahorrea and nappy rash so I have cut it back a bit until he gets used to it more. I am using 3/4 of a scoop in 150mls of milk and 1 level scoop in 180mls. I still rate it highly though.
Happy anniversary too.
Charis - Yep I thought I was finally finished with the surf boards! ;) Can't wait to wear a tampon again, maybe one day. I'm more worried about that than ever having sex again :laughing:
Scarry about the bath incident, it only takes a quick second doesn't it. Glad to hear everyone ok though.
Cheeki - Great to hear from you and glad the twins are coming along well.
Us - Yesterday Reece wouldn't settle much during the day, but it was very hot here in Melb.
Last evening he went off to sleep in his swing for a while and we didn't get arsenic hour for once. He had a feed at 10pm then went to bed and slept until 5am!! Then went back to bed until 9.30am :smiliedance: I slept the whole time too (except for during his feed) so that's the most sleep I have had since he was born.
I have been lucky so far re the housework and cooking as mum has been doing it all. Not sure what will happen next week after they go home!! Will have to try to muck through I suppose, not really worrying about it. There will be plenty of time for all that stuff when he's older. Just want to enjoy the little fella whilst I can.
We are going out tomorrow with my parents but not sure where as it depends on how much walking I can do. I am still resting alot which drives me mad as I would like to be out and about. But next week I have got something planned everyday so I hope I am up for it.
Have a great weekend everyone.
Tabby - it's so frustrating with the wrapping, your little miss is obviously a wiggle worm!
Charis - How scary and it can happen so quick. It's funny how they calm down much sooner then we do!
Jennasmum - I know how you feel, Dr has put me on two lots of antibiotics to clear up and infection (reason I am STILL bleeding) and they are making me feel awful, tired, dizzy and nauseas like I have the flu :gloomy:
SammyG - so cool about the shopping - good on you, it's a real mummy of two milestone, congrats!
Freddie - I too thought that Emily may have been teething last week - her cheeks were read and she was grumpy and drooling ???? I have no idea, I guess that the teeth start to move around a bit from now on so yes, could be teething..... hope not though it can be a tiring process as I remember with DS, hope it holds off for a while longer yet.
Cheeki28 - good to hear from you, glad to hear all is going well.
Us - well apart from feelig like absolute **** from the antibiotics, pleased to report that it's not effecting bub too much only more dirty nappies - yay! Bub went down at 8pm and woke at 4.45am - so I am pleased with that, only DS came into our room at 1.30am crying, it was a nightmare apparantly - however I suspect a sore ear from swimming - he won't admit it though, never does, waits until high temp (usually middle of night on a weekend and no hope of seeing GP) and it takes Dr to find a raging ear infection..... boys! So I didn't get the full blissout sleep!
My friend who has 18mnth old twin girls dropped around two full garbage bags full of clothes yesterday, mainly size 00. It was like xmas, I had so much fun! Washing them all now - can't wait to get her into them. I have been very lucky as have another friend who has a nine month old girl and she has been handing down her clothes as well - so I have hardly had to buy a thing, very handy as $$'s are tight while on mat leave!
Anyway have a good weekend all - lots of sleepy vibes for all!
Wow, lots going on here the last few days ladies.
Tabby - yes, naughty me left the clothes out overnight.
Charis - Glad poor little hunter (and you) recovered from the bath scare. Sometimes my DH does silly things with the kids (but not dangerous or anything) and I can't understand what he is thinking.
Mind you I can talk - left Kelsey with DS for all of about 15 seconds while I left the room this morning and came back to a screaming baby. DS said he sat on her :eek: .
Housework - I just do what is needed. I do a load of washing every morning and hopefully find time during the day to put it out. Then I try and commit about 20mins to some sort of housework every day. That way I find I don't get too behind. Like today - I just changed and washed the sheets and towels. As for dusting and vacuuming - I wait until DH is on a day off to help out.
Freddie - Had a thought about rocking bubs in a cot - I saw these things at the baby shop that you sit the cot legs onto which allows you to rock them - can't remember what it was called though.
Dribbling - Yes, plenty of it going on here. Leave a puddle of drool everywhere we go. Glad someone said about it though as I was starting to panic about teething!!!
Hands - kelsey is also fascinated by hers. She looks a bit shocked every time they pop up in front of her face. It is like she doesn't know they are hers.
I am loving all of the smiles and 'talking' Kelsey is doing. I also love it when she flaps her arms and kicks her legs with excitement until she is out of breath - very cute.
Speaking of housework - i had better get some done while the kids are asleep. Take care.
Sorry no personals, it just feels like I'm about to repeat everything that's already been said. I do read all and think about everyone though!
Poo Question: Michael's are bright mustard yellow (which is completely normal I know) but they are also very watery with tiny chunks. I'm still 100% BF, what are others BF poos like?
Can't imagine having this conversation 10yrs ago or so!!! LOL
mamabearof3
23-03-2007, 16:42
Not exactly able to keep up at the moment but I'm still reading when I can
Wrapping We still are, Ariane is wrapped in a sarong and I wrap very tightly so she is usually still wrapped when she wakes up and when I unwrap her sometimes it takes her a minute or two to realise that she has been unwrapped and move her arms.
Tummy time Ariane would be lucky to get 5 minutes each day. They can also get good neck control from being carried in a front carrier such as the hug a bub.
Poo Ariane's is mustard yellow with chunks sometimes too and other times it's more pastey when she has a day or two between them.
Dribbling None hear yet. I was told babies are born without their salivary glands working properly because they haven't got the swallow reflex until a nipple touches the roof of their mouth. Think about how you swallow your own saliva all the time and what your tongue does, a baby doesn't have that control over their tongue yet, hence they dribble as their salivary glands start to function more before they get the proper tongue control.
Hands Ariane hasn't discovered her hands yet and isn't interested in batting at things yet and still has the newborn grasping reflex. I can't remember when these things usually change.
Housework Not much is getting done in our place at the moment as we will be moving in 3 weeks. So any spare time we spend packing instead of housework and will do a big clean when we move out. The basics, bathroom, kitchen and floor sweeping as well as the laundry is all that is done at the moment.
I can't believe Ariane is 9 weeks already. We are still doing 2-3 hours between breastfeeds during the day and 6-7 hours then 4-5 at night. Slowly it is starting to get some time patterns and suiting the school drop off and pick up times. So much so that my eldest often says she is screaming in the car when we pick him up from school and that's usually because she is ready to go back to sleep at that time.
jacstar31
23-03-2007, 17:47
Geoffrey is 14 weeks old now and I weighed him at parents group on tuesday, he was 7.45kg with clothes & nappy on, so would be slightly less than that!
lots more smiles, laughs and games with him now, its fantastic.
I am so blessed with housework - my DH does most of it, esp. all major cleaning, I do lots of tidying, all washing, kitchen cleaned, but he does vacuum, mop, bathrooms....its great
Poo - K's poo are also bright yellow mustard colour. Sometimes they are a bit chunky as in blobs of mucousy looking stuff (sorry tmi) :eek: Sometimes more watery.
Feeding - K usually goes about 3 hours between feeds. Sometimes 2.5 but not usually more than 3. At night he can go 6-7 hours and then about 4-5 hours.
SammyG - Yay for the shopping day. I've worn K in the hug-a-bub a few times but it's too hot here, we both end up hot and sweaty. I don't have a toddler seat either but i'm looking at a few tandem prams on ebay, something cheap for the next few months as i've noticed DD still gets a bit tired walking all the time.
2cutekidz - only day one of antibiotics here, i hope they start working asap. Doc said bubs poo will be different, hope they don't affect him too much, i have to take the repeat too. Hope yours clears quickly too.
Lukeandmattsmum
23-03-2007, 21:25
Hi ladies
Not much to report here.
Matt has gone back to waking at night:thumbsdown: .
I find it so hard not to fall asleep while feeding him, so it usually takes twice as long.
I think i could sit all day talking and smiling at Matt, he is so cute when he tries to talk and giggle. It is like he almost has to work it out from the bottom of his toes, he has so much concentration on his face.
Matthews poos are mustard yellow sometimes runny, sometimes a bit thicker. I think what we eat and drink can sometimes affect them, even if you don't think you have eaten something that different.
DP got cranky at DS1 tonight and sent him to his bedroom (which is how he is disiplined) but i have tried explaining to him that when he does this, not to keep talking to him when he is crying because you are still giving him the attention. Tonight he stood in the kitchen and basically lectured him on what he should do and not do and yadi yadi ya. Instead of leaving him for the time period that is set and then going and getting him and talking calmly. We both have the same displine views it is just sometimes he thinks ds1 is older then what he is i think.:banghead:
Anyway so much for not much to report:p
Hope everyone has a good night
bossoflatch
23-03-2007, 22:07
i am being rude tonight - haven't catched on the last few days of posts .. - sorry very flusterd as we went to get tayla weighed today and she is apparently still underweight !!! What the!!!
so i started a new thread for anyone that would be interested in helping me prove the doctors wrong with what is average !!!!
will have to read the new posts next time - i have to go to work now !!!
hope you are all well!!!
leisa
Wow oh wow does time have fast and slow speeds for everyone? It used to feel much more constant. And I would plan 6-8wks ahead.. I was impressed Hels that you know what you're doing each day next week! Not quite just a day at a time still for me, but not more than a week, yet. Hels I guess you're cherishing the last week+ with yr folks.:) Great the arsenic hr had gone, maybe he's outgrowing it, a lovely sleep you had!!
Thanks all for the v kind and caring thoughts about the bath incident. I think he actually was still holding him, but looked away a second and he went under. GOSH Cheeki28 can completely read the millisecond by second recollection of yours walking towards the pool, oh you poor thing, what a terrible terrible moment. I have goosebumps just thinking about it. GOOD ON YOU for such fast action. :angel: Of course you would do what you did, but so terrifying. Sorry to bring it up for you again!
Jennas/Kobys am certainly looking forward to the Toddler books of Barkers! Hope your infection is clearing.
Spiders, yes ECK. I found a redback outside and had terrible thoughts about future toddler H. Am not overly anxious, I promise..but understand overprotective Mums now.
TiredMummy great Sierra is getting better! Your cleaning regime is HUGE.
Wild@heart sorry, yep Hunter isn;t meant to be showing off..it was NAPPY free, Freddie mentioned it, I think, enjoys TTime then, but he can't stand or sit. (or read much!) Loved the driveway attendant bit! I am a terribly negligent mother..and leave sleeping H in car when getting fuel. Only go when he's asleep and only to shady petrol bowsers. You know what I mean!
Mummabear3 happy packing! GOSH
SammyG great about the Bjorn! Love the BB, so does H-y.
Flicka gorgeous about the puddle of dribble!
oh and us..crazy crazy idea taking in all the completed tax returns to C'link today, I am appealing their rejection, due to not getting 300forms and company tax to them when H 4wks old.. Its taken me till 10wks! But all done now finally. It was 12 when we left home, H perfectly asleep..its a short drive,we waited till 2pm for an interview..it was 3pm when we got out!! (Its okay I picked up a feedback sheet, I will write UNDERSTAFFING COMPLAINTS in similarly large letters!) And naughty me didn't take any food. GOLLY v tired and drained.
Fed H and got to supermarket (would be near you Aries!) and had to munch a sausage roll first was sitting there not dropping crumbs of pastry on H in his bjorn feeling v strung out/v tired and a very thin young Mum with a toddler came up to me and asked for some cash 'for a feed'. Doubted thats what it was for, but gave her what I was holding. Only a little while later I realised, hey, I'm a single Mum working to keep business running, starving/headachey at 3pm, with an appeal in at Centrelink,three weeks before any $, I should be asking for money! But things really never seem that bad. Well they're not. Gorgeous boy and I came home and fed again in bed! and we both had a snooze :smiliedance:
Sorry:ecomcity: Should have a sleep now too.
Happy nights all
xx
Morning,
Our first allnighter!!!! 830-645. I was awake from 6 though lol Woke up and saw the clock and could not believe it! So got to have a nice hot cuppa un disturbed.
:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed: its the start. Most likely the thickened formula maybe is helping see her through?
Anniversary.... HA, I didnt expect anything as we have no $ but sheesh youd think I would have got a special kiss at least..even acknowledgment of the day.something..anything..
So i spent the day as if it was just another day. hohum. Thanks for the well wishes though xxx
Hope others had as lovely a sleeping bubby!
Have a great weekend everyone
Charis: I actually lodged a formal complaint with cl yesterday via phone. This is just bull....
Now we are told monday to see whats happening, after being told it would be done by friday!
im sick to death of every time we ring we get put back days/weeks. Oh and get this, im the one who lodged it yet when the complaints dept rang back they didnt even ask to speak to me :banghead:
Of course DP is just way to calm about it all and the point of WHY I complained in the first place didn't get told.....and he didn't give me the call.
arghhhh I give up! Its making me feel sick to the stomach the worry of it all
Hope you have luck with yours xx
sorry for rant
xxxxxx
aries_moon
24-03-2007, 10:03
Hi all, happy saturday.........
still reading everyone's posts but can rarely get around to doing my own....hmmm major lack of organizational skills maybe? ha
well first of all -Tabby, i'm really feeling for you with all this CL crapola!! so don't deserve it......if you don't hear anything by mon. go in and ring their necks!! seriously!:mad:
CHARIS- that was very sweet of you to give $$ away when you're feeling so rundown etc; but yep regardless of what she may have used the $$ for, she was prob alot worse of than you, dp says that when happens to us, plus karma will get you back for it soon!:angel:
BOSSOFLATCH- saw your other thread but will jsut post here while i'm at it. Xavier is 6.2kilos at 6 weeks old............
well well typical x needs attention............write soon hopefully bye:D
*Sparkles*
24-03-2007, 18:11
Tabby and Charis - Bummer about CL, but don't get me started about them! We are most likely entitled to some payments but I am too hormonal to deal with them at the moment. If I walk into their office I will probably end up being arrested, so I will leave it until I am in a better frame of mind ;)
Tabby - I definitely think the thickener makes them sleep for longer. Last night we gave R a feed at 7pm, then woke him for a quick bath and feed again at 10.30pm. Next time we heard from him was 6.30am :smiliedance:
Today we went out for a drive, it was raining so we went up the Dandenong Mountains with the folks and had a Devonshire Tea in the arvo. R was a little :angel: all day. I sat next to him in the back of the car and he kept smiling and laughing at me. When he is like that it brings tears to my eyes because he is so gorgeous. I find myself really missing him now when I am not with him. That night last week in the hospital was awful, I missed him terribly. I am so pleased that I am getting my maternal love back for him.
I drove the car again briefly today, still quite painful to sit but getting better :thumbsup: . We had to go into the city through the tunnel, it really made me on edge due to the bad accident in the other tunnel yesterday. Last night I had a horrible dream that we were caught up in something like that. It's made me want to get our Wills in order to make sure R would be looked after properly if anything happened to both us. Not a nice thought, but it has to be done I s'pose.
sugar n spice
24-03-2007, 18:38
just a quick post, sounds like everyone is doing well. ashton was 6.3kgs at 12wks which is just above average but it sounds like some of you have bigger bubs at a younger age which is great. Ash just wont have big feeds.
Well dh is home from being a way on a course the last few days. he got back at 2.30 this arvo and now the boys are driving him bonkers :laughing:.
I survived 4 days on my own with 3 kids and i found it pretty easy:smiliedance:
Had a good day today, oldest son took me and Katie out for half the day as he knew I was feeling down lately, went shopping and visited mum/dad.
He brought Katie some new nappies that I saw. I use cloth nappies and these are the pre-folded toweling ones. but at Kmart only $7 each!
I got so excited seeing them so cheap so he got me the last 4 plus he got her some new plastic pants for over the top...he always was a sweetheart and today he proved it again. Valentine
hope all having a great weekend!
xxx
all night sleep again :smiliedance: 9 hrs
I woke at what I thought was 7am then realized nope its now 6am lol. daylight saving changed back
The thickener is helping immensely! hardly any sickups and sleeping through. Shes even laying on the play gym floor after a feed and no sick, which was a big no-no for at least an hr before using thickener and even then lots of :barf:
BUT no poo yesterday and she was a daily pm poo-er, so hope she isnt constipated.
oh and she was sooo sleepy yesterday ( just like before with AR ) but seems back to normal today
hope everyones well
wow lots of long sleeps for everyone. Hamish did 8 hours last night too :smiliedance: 7.45pm - 3.45am then 4.20am to 6.50am only I realised later we forgot to change the clocks :banghead: I should have put him back down so I could get another hour's sleep! Oh well, DH is fixing up my study today so that gives him an extra hour to do it. He takes a bit of coaxing!!
We've all had a slight head cold so Hamish is sleepy today. Yesterday we got sucked into spending lots on a play gym which I think is a bit over the top and I'm not sure he likes it :confused: . There is so much stuff on it I think its a bit overwhelming for him. hopefully he'll get into it more as he gets older. I wonder whether these things are actually too stimulating and its better for them to be happy with fewer simple things?
I feel for those of you having to deal with CL. I only had that experience once and it sucked big time. Just registering for the one-off family payment was enough of a debacle.
happy sunday
kx
Glad to hear about the long sleeps - yay for us. Kelsey also did a 9 hour stint last night which was great.
I had such a terrible day yesterday. Kelsey only slept for 1 hour the whole day and DS was driving me crazy with little annoying things. I didn't get 5 minutes to myself and even had to get out of the shower with shampoo in my hair to 'rescue' Kelsey from being pulled off the bed by DS. Don't get me wrong - he isn't naughty he just said he wanted her to come and play with him!!!
When DH got home from work in the arvo and I was close to meltdown. DH was great - made me a cuppa and told me I was doing a great job. Then he bought me dinner so we didn't have to worry about it and he put the kids to bed. Kelsey finally went to bed at 8.30pm and I was fast asleep by 9pm. I feel alot better today and Kesley is back to her usual sleeps today. WHEW!
As for Kelsey's weight - I have no idea what she weighs. Will have to go to clinic next week and find out.
Enjoy the rest of your Sunday. I am off to put my feet up - the housework can wait!!!
Just a quick one - Cameron is overdue for a feed as it is and seems soundly asleep but bound to change as soon as I start typing! No personals from me either as it looks like it has all been said but I have caught up with all the posts and following what everyone is up to.
I lie - one personal for Cate about boosting milk supply. Probably too obvious and simplistic an answer but are you still taking a pregnancy/breastfeeding multivitamin? One of the midwives picked that I'd been taking them and said she can usually tell the difference between mums who have and haven't been taking them from how soon their milk comes in and how abundant the supply seems to be and she recommended I keep it up. Probably a load of rubbish but I figure it can't hurt! (I take the Blackmores one)
We were out visiting for a BBQ last night and he slept from being put down in his pram at about 8.30pm until 6am this morning - didn't even stir being put in and out of the capsule. I love it when he is that zonked out. So cute and peaceful looking and no need to worry about him escaping his wrap!
Oooh....there he is now. DH is doing his nappy so time to get out my boobs before he cracks it......:laughing: from the sounds of it DH just got weed on. So much funnier when it's not me!
Ok, back now. Looks like the little fella may even have fallen asleep for his afternoon nap with hands unwrapped. Although it has only been silent for about 5 mins so far so :fingerscrossed: .
Was just going to say before that Cameron is also going through the saliva/mouthing fingers stage as well as cheekily poking his tongue out at mum all the time. Lots of smiles and baby talk, even tries to smile while feeding - so cute!! He loves floor time on his back and especially likes kicking the life out of any toy placed at his feet. He was just watching some footy with DH and would get excited when the commentators did - must be the pitch! Bit worried he loves TV so much at such a young age but figure it is just the bright light and sound and will hopefully loose interest once he is mobile. He absolutely hates tummy time though (except in the bath) so hardly ever put him down on his belly but trying to get him used to it slowly, just a couple of minutes a day.
He had a progress U/S on his renal tract/kidney last week and they think it looks like the dilation of his kidney is due to a congenital obstruction in his left ureter. Not causing any trouble at this stage so Paediatrician recommends just wait and do another progress U/S in a few months and if no better (or worse) will refer us to a kidney specialist/surgeon. Good news is doesn't look like the problem is reflux back up from the bladder and validates our decision not to start him on long term antibiotics at 2 weeks old as a preventative measure against urinary tract infection as had been recommended. I know antibiotics have their place but all I wanted in bubs tum was my milk so kept putting off starting the antibiotics. I would have felt like worlds worst mum if he did develop a UTI and get kidney damage but it just didn't feel like the right thing to do to a currently well baby. So relieved it turned out our instincts were right!
Still quiet from the nursery. I hope it's not a once off and I can start popping him in his little grobags with hands free. At the moment he is sleeping inside a 'Close & Secure Sleeper' bed within the cot but he is nearly touching both ends of that so will soon have to give him full reign of the cot.
They grow up so quickly..........
*Sparkles*
25-03-2007, 17:11
That's great that many of you got a good sleep last night, Reece woke at 3am and then 6.30am (as he was filling his nappy :rolleyes: ) so not such a good night for us. During the course of the morning DH got poo'ed and puked on and I got wee'd on so it wasn't a good start to the day. Then later I changed another pooey nappy and he hadn't quite finished so it went everywhere. My MIL came to take my folks out to lunch and there's me on my hands and knees scrubbing poo off the carpet! :laughing:
I have bought a little plastic seat that goes in the bath so I will use it tonight. He likes sitting in it so mum is currently feeding him in it on the kitchen bench. We wouldn't leave him unattended in it as there is no strap but it's great for feeding, I could use it on the couch too.
Hope everyone has had a great weekend.
hahaha got to love their timing hey hels.
where did you buy the seat for the bath? Sounds like something Katie would like.
Also, Katie has ended up constipated as first thought, going to introduce daily fruit juics and water I think ( not just when shes thristy ) and hope it fixes it. Dont want to stop the thickener unless really have to, its worked a treat! So good to not be thrown up all over all the time lol
She is on the recommended two scoops as the one scoop didnt work for her, still threw up. So probably why constipated.
:fingerscrossed: for the good sleep to return for yous tonight.
I've had a name change for those who may be wondering who the hell this chick is!! I took the first 2 letters of Jenna's name and the first 2 from Koby and came up with....Jenko!
Well my boy is still waking for a feed at night, no sleep throughs here. Last night it was 12.30am and then 4am. He went to bed at 6.30pm so can't really complain. My boobs get soo full at night, sometimes i can't wait till he wakes up. Oh mother nature..strange lady that one. If Koby starts sleeping through I will have to get up to express.
bath seats ... you can get all sorts of bath seats - plain plastic ones, padded plastic ones, cloth ones, etc. We have a plain plastic one that I bought from target for about $25. I love it! Josh loves it too! I tried bathing Josh without one and I was so worried he'd slip out of my hands (who was it that mentioned the slipping out of hands incident recently??). Bathing him without the seat also hurt my back as I had to lean over the bath eventhough it was on a stand. Then, the seat went in the bath, Josh loved his bath time and my back thanked me. Of course, you don't leave them unattended but it gives you your two hands free.
overnight sleeps - josh's reflux played up yesterday, but after 2 hours of screaming and a feed he then slept for 6 hours. Yeah! Problem was that we all woke up when he did and although he went back to sleep dh and i stayed up ... so i'm now really tired. josh has been asleep for 3 1/2 hours right now, so maybe i should go to bed in case this is his long sleep for the night.
cat13 ... that's good news about your bubs kidneys.
Centrelink - i've also only had to deal with them once (for the maternity payment) and it was so disastrous that i was very glad i didn't have to deal with them more often. i feel for those of you who do.
thickener - my paed said thickener/gaviscon helps reflux but can cause constipation, but he said that it's ok you just work out what dose helps the symptoms and doesn't cause constipation.
US - josh is sleeping so much more during the day. :laughing: he must have telepathically worked out what i was typing cause he's stirring. Apart from yesterday his reflux has been so much better controlled. He threw up twice yesterday (only small amts though), but hadn't thrown up for many days before hand. It's so much easier to manage when he sleeps during my day.
So, that leads me to a question ... do most babies really feed & play for 1 - 1 1/2 hours, then sleep for 1 - 3 hours during the day? Do they always have a decent sleep for at least an hour after a feed?
Had a good laugh about the poo story Hels. I too have been on my hands and knees scrubbing the carpet because of an 'explosion' on the change table.
Tabby - If I am thinking of the same thing that Hels has, you can get those bath seats from Big W. I haven't used one but my friend has a lovely one with a towelling cover which is soft for her bub. She actually takes him in the shower in it so she can have her hands free to wash her hair and other child.
Cat - Glad bubs is ok and your instincts were right - you know what is best for him after all. Can I ask what paed you are going to in T'ville?
I had better go - have been in trouble with DH about my "excessive" internet usage. LOL!!!!
Mim: Thanks for that info re: thickener, will cut back a little each time until right.
and thanks for the bath info too, thats why I wanted one, my back kills and usually shes taken out sooner than she would like only because my back hurts because of the way I arch to support behind head
Flicka, cheers for that, will check it out this week. ( missed your post first off,sorry )
Heh am lucky here as DP and son are both computer nerds, If anything its me complaining for him to get off his
day sleeps, Since the reflux settled her she sleeping more. usual is: have bottle then awake/play for about an hr to hr and a half. Sleeping for anything from 1 hr to 3hrs . average is about 2. morning naps are longer and as the day goes on they seem to get shorter till the late arvo one which is about an hr. hope that helps
Argh and she wanted bath and bed at 6pm ( what was 7. )So tried hard amuse her and got her to 7. Am hoping to stetch it out a little each day till we are back to where we were, 8-830 ish
Hey Mim - regarding the routine......
Kelsey gets up and has a boob feed. Then we talk to her, put her in her bouncer or swing or on her playmat for "play" time. When she starts to show tired signs I offer her a feed again which usually makes her sleepy and put her down for a nap. She is awake anywhere from 1-2.5hrs at a time and during the day only sleeps for an hour or so at a time. Sometimes she has a longer nap in the arvo. The she has a power nap around dinner time of about 30mins. So I tend to do the feed/play/feed/sleep routine. Hope this is what you were asking about.....
I can't believe all these babies having 8 and 9 hour sleeps - what the ....?
The longest Billy sleeps is generally 4 - 5 hours, he is BF and not that it worries me as he only grunts to be fed at 10:30, 2:30 and 6:30 and goes straight back to sleep, so we don't have long interuppted sleep (generally I fall asleep with him attached to my boob) My DD (aged 4)didn't sleep through the night until she was about 12 months old. So I am very suprised about all these sleeping babies :wizard:
HI all just a quick post as I hear the slurping and sucking of a baby who is nearly awake...yes we too have reaching the spit stage...it's everywhere and she just loves it!!!
Cat yes I've still on my elevit. I'm still battling on with the feeding...yesterday she actually took a boob feed at 5pm (not enough and had to be topped up) but for her to even go near me in the afternoon is a miracle.
Still sleeping through which is great. but much less sleeping in the day......generally 1 1/2 - 2 of play after a feed and then only an hour of sleep.....speaking of which!!!! Her royal highness is calling!
bah to daylight saving! Katie was awake at 5am her usual is 6 lol
wild at heart: Found some new nappy folds,The fold Im using but would also be great for boys as its folded middle to form extra padding its the butterfly one, and only needs 1 pin in the middle, fits K better as small and can udjust width in middle to suit.
http://www.time2changeuk.com/foldingterries030305.html
Hi all:wave:
I say fine oh daylight saving, as Hunter still thinks his 6.30 feed is nighttime..and went back to sleep. Well when it is too early for me to consider its morning he feeds in bed..and feel asleep like that. I had a snooze too and got up leaving him sleeping. Only to hear a very weird noise, so rushed in and poor thing had chucky coming out his nose. Hels, Reece had one of these!? So did the best I could to clear and then he sneezed.. phew. Still would love to know how to clear the airways!!???ANYONE?
Mim1 yes similar sleeps to your Josh. 3hrs start feed to feed, 1.5hrs up from start feed, an hour or more asleep. Car alters all that.. and sometimes has 3hr sleep in the arvos. oH YAH!
For all the sleep throughs wow wow!! The night before last he woke 2am, 4am, 7am. YIKES this was the daylight saving night so I was just looking at the clock wondering what the time really was in sleep drowsy state. :laughing:
Jenko great name!
Karrina great to hear from you, the bits of bed feeding I do are v sweet and bonding, i agree. I do find that it feels like hes been gnawing at my nipple when I wake up though :) Lucky little beautiful bubs having breakfast in bed !!
Last Parents Group and am presently grilling eggplants, need a shower and to start some work..all before he wakes, 17mins ago...officially!
Hi Charis - bit of a scare about the nose spew and lucky you were nearby - one of the benefits of having him in bed with you I suppose.
I also love those early morning drowsy feeds. Kelsey gets what she wants and I get an extra 15mins nap.
Karrina - I know all of these sleeping babies sounds crazy doesn't it? But I have to say my DS was a total pain and didn't sleep through until he was 11 months old. He used to wake 4-5 times a night and I was a walking zombie.
Kelsey has been a bit difficult the last few days. When she gets tired she gets herself so worked up and then has a bit of a screaming session. Today at clinic she wouldn't stop crying. I was a bit embarassed and sort of said "sorry" to the other mums. One mum said to me "I thought my baby cried alot but he seems like an angel compared to your baby"!!! Can you believe that? I actually felt close to tears but I held it together and got her weighed and left. I felt bad enough without her making that comment :(
Kelsey calls so I am off - take care ladies.
sugar n spice
26-03-2007, 12:31
had a slightly worse night but still good its just ash woke earlier due to day light saving and also he woke on and off during the night during to being congested from his cold.
i love watching him in bed lifting his legs up in the air and back down. i am so clucky for number 4 but dh wants to wait at least 3 - 4yrs.:rolleyes:
*Sparkles*
26-03-2007, 12:39
Charis - Yes R has had a nose chuck in the past lol, (not so much anymore though as he is on the thickener). One night I put him in his basinette just as he threw up and it went all up his face and even in his eye :eek: , poor thing.
You can buy nose drops called Fess to clear the nose.
Tabby - Strange how Katie gets constipated on the thickener and Reece is alot looser. It's settling down now though but he goes alot more often. I wonder if it's the formula that makes the difference? R is on Nan Gold HA, what about Katie?
I bought R's bath seat from a baby shop, we liked it because it is adjustable so it can be reclined for when washing the hair. There's quite a few to chose from, great for in the shower too.
I had an appt with my OB today and he is very pleased with how well I am healing :thumbsup: I go back again in 3 weeks for another check-up. He reckons I will be right after about 6 weeks :fingerscrossed:
Going to go for a walk to the shops this arvo with R. Just need to get out and get active again, but still have to take it easy. I have gained a kilo from sitting around all week, bummer.
My folks go home on wednesday and they have given us a bit of money so I am going to do Lite n Easy for a week or 2 to get some weight off and motivate myself to keep going.
Daylight savings is not working well for us either.
Hels: Glad to see your healing well!
Katie is on Heinz nurture step1, she was constipated on the s26 so changed to this one and she was fine ( before thickener ).
Ive dropped the dose down, so far so good, still keeping it down with even less thickener so :fingerscrossed: looser bowel movements soon too.
lol yes Katie copped an eye full of spew ages ago too, I felt so bad that I hadn't rushed in on first cry and then wondered how long she had been like it!!!! poor bubba
DP GOT A JOB YAYYYAYAYAY!!!
He starts monday... OH MY GOD soooo much happier now
huge relief!
forgot to add, was just as well as CL officially rejected claim!
*Sparkles*
26-03-2007, 17:56
Yay to tabby and her DP :smiliedance:
That's great news!!
And BOO to CL, they are a bunch of "tommy tankers" :thumbsdown:
;) :laughing:
victoria75
26-03-2007, 20:15
Tabby - Vicki that is such fantastic news for both you and DP. Well Done and Good Luck.
:smiliedance: :smiliedance:
Lukeandmattsmum
26-03-2007, 20:22
:smiliedance: to Tabby and her DP. Don't CL s*#k.
Well i am back from my second night of netball and feeling pretty good, except for some pretty full boobie.:D .
Tommorow is my first day back at work:crying: . It's only for three hours tomorrow and wednesday but i think it will be the longest three hours of my life. I am pretty lucky that i have mum to come and look after the boys and i don't have to put them in day care. Although DS1 is probably ready for a day or two.
Anyways i better go have my date with Mr expressing machine.
Happy sleeping to everyone
finalcountdown!
26-03-2007, 21:42
Hey all
im back...havent been on forum for a while.... started to feel like i was talking to myself for a while there !! :no: As you all had met up and where continuing on previous convos i think!!! But its all good!!
Well isnt the time just flying!! Jett is now 11 weeks old!! And things have gotten sooo much easier, those terrible first weeks are just a distant memory now!!! He is putting on heaps of weight, think hes about 7 kilos!! He sleeps through the night :smiliedance: and is just a pure pleasure. Im enjoying every minute of it!! Cant wait to have another bub!! But i probably shouldnt speak too soon...we havent been using any protection (sorry if TMI!) !!!
Tabby - just saw your DH got a job...thats great must be huge weight lifted!!!
Well i will try and go back through the posts to see what has been happening!!! And will have to update my avatar.....talk to you all soon!!
Thanks everyone!
Boy what a roller coaster of a day this was. Only 10 mins before the call for work we had the one from CL so I was in tears. Then those tears of desperation went and became tears of relief and happiness! So glad that part of our life is now over. I almost feel like my old self again , am sure I was heading towards a deep depression over it. Tears/sadness and anger outbursts on a daily basis lately. Also extremely tired ( sign of depression i believe ) ANYHOW thats past now, onward and upward as they say lol
Am also pretty sure you lot here helped keep me sane somewhat, ranting away and support when needed. xxx
Welcome back Finalcountdown
Sorry to hear you were feeling left out in some way, am sure it wasnt intentional hun. :hugs:
yay another who sleeps all night! heh wow your keen, thoughts of another already?
Then again Katie is such an angel I wouldnt say no to another soon, dont think DP will agree though...
Lukeandmattsmum :hugs: for your first day back at work tomorrow.
Thanks Hels and Victoria :D
Yay Katie slept till 630 so by the time bathed and fed and play was 830 bed so we back on time..
Another early for me I think, been a long day.
Lots of zzz's for mums and bubs!
xxx
Cordelia
26-03-2007, 22:47
Hi everyone,
hope mums adn bubs are going well... and getting better sleeps than us :( We were doing well - all nights but now she wakes every 2 hours. ARgghhh... I'm wondering whether it could be the wind making too much noise.... who knowwwsss
and feelign pretty depressed because she didnt put on weight this week and she loosk SO much bigger. I don't get it!! How come other babies put on so much weight - she still feeds 3 hourly... and long good feeds so that she's absolutely stuffed at the end of it... how can she not be? Mind you, I think the scales werent' working properly - and also, it's a bit of a worry to be weighing soon.. but stillllllllllll.
Flicka: I can't believe that Mum said that to you!! I know how you feel - as another mum was weighing her baby with me and made a huge deal about how her baby was so much bigger than mine. So rude!! I didn't think that stupid comments from stupid women would have such an effect.
Speaking of weight - 7kgs finalcountdown!?!?! Amazing!!
lukeandmattsmum: Let us know how work goes!!
I cant' believe some of you are talking about your next bub already!! I wonder which one of us will be first!! Maybe someone's pregnant again already!! I had a dream that I was - dh flipped out and we had to sell the house. teehee!!
weve been awake since 4am.:(
Katie has a tummy ache, so gave her some infants friend then laid on the lounge cuddling her. tossed and turned for 3 hrs but finally asleep in the pram.
Think its the constipation from the thickener :(
Cordelia: We had the same issue with Katie when we got home visited early days. I know she added weight but CHN scales said she had lost more ( portable ones ). So the following week at the clinic it showed she had put on a HEAP in that one week. yer sure....
Wouldn't worry, like you say they were probably broken, we know when they have gained weight just by looking at them and carrying them around . :thumbsup:
Hope everyone had a good night xx
Am off shopping today YAY can fill the cupboards and fridge again.
aries_moon
27-03-2007, 10:40
hey TABBY! awesome news re:dp's job!! Finally some relief, so happy that's behind you now. And ya, stuff CL!!! Hope little Katie's tummy is feelin better now. Have fun shopping:smiliedance:
CORDELIA: some people are so rude, they just don't think about possible circumstances hey.....ie. like they prob don't know Caitlin was prem etc; besides she looks healthy and you know she's happy and healthy, is all that matters!!
Welcome back FINALCOUNTDOWN don't feel leftout, it happens sometimes when you fall out of the loop with wahts going on with everyone, happens to me all the time, but I just randomly jump back in wherever:laughing: , best you can do as a mumma!!
CHARIS- i plan on going to kemh exercise thingo tomorrow, will u be going too?? Would be good to see ya if so.
well we're off now to chn, only had him weighed last week at gp so will be interesting to see if he's more than 6.2 kilos now!! alright :fingerscrossed: this is a positive CHN experience, report back later
lovely day all
Tabby/Vicki that is awesome news about work!! Especially after the yucky CL call. Wonderful that you can stock the cupboards again! Not great about tummy aches Hugs to Katie.
Was so chilly in Perth last night, had Hunter in little wooly cardy :) When he woke at 6AM and we had yummy morning bed feed he was toasty, but his little hands were lke icecubes!! Might go with mittens tonight. How did the other Perthies get on?
Finalcountdown great you're back and that all the early probs are over!!:wave:
CordeliaYep its weird what upsets us. Sorry about weighty showoff Mum.. and Flicka, thats a bizarre Mum to say that to you, prob just thinking out loud not that that makes it any better.
Hels yr weekend sounds lovely, happy last week with them here:wave:
Well perfect morning here, some sleep, work, washing, brekky, shower and even a cupatea then for feed..and Mums here in 10mins..and haven't endangered his like THIS morning :)
oops Aries!! Didn't see it, YES will be there tomorrow..everyone tends to feed before getting there a bit early..no idea how daylight saving will go. Be great to see You + X!
*Sparkles*
27-03-2007, 10:56
Had a better night, R woke at 4.30am and then 8.30am. He had his first big bath we me last night which went ok, but he was a little unsure at times, he's still a bit small and wobbly for the seat. He'll soon get used to it though. I also gave him a quick shower off this morning in his seat which was ok and heaps easier than trying to clean off a pooey bum with wipes!
Tabby - I am actually cutting back on the thickener to half a scoop as R does loads of loose poos now that look like runny mustard (sorry if TMI). Strange how Katie is the opposite :confused:
We have our 8 week appt with the MCHN this arvo so we will see how much bigger R is and how much weight he has put on.
Re having another bub - I am not totally opposed to the idea now but I know I definitely won't be the next one to fall PG. You need to have sex for that and it ain't happening here anytime soon :laughing:
Actually, we would need to go down the path of insemination to fall PG again, thinking it will be early next year if at all. I am warming to the idea now that I know it would be a caesar next time round. I keep thinking that I am supposed to have a baby girl, which I would love to have but wish I didn't have to go through another pregnancy to have her :rolleyes:
Anyway, enough :ecomcity: , have a great day everyone.
Hi-ya girlies,
I will begin by saying what a week! Have skipped through the posts (lots and lots) since I was on last and good to hear Hels is feeling better and that Tabby's DP has a job. Also good to hear most of the bubs are starting to sleep for longer periods.
TJ seems to have finally got through the restlesness that seemed to go on forever. DH has flow in and out again. We all went to Busselton for 5 days for a nice holiday. As relaxing as can be in a confined space with 4 of us, with DD1 having tanties from being over tired after the days activities and TJ not sleeping properly (3-4 hourly feeds day and night), and a DH who had no shed to escape to when it all got too much:laughing: . TJ travelled well, only grizzles on the way home for feeds.
Went in to work before going on holidays, only to get told they don't legally have to give me a part time job as I was full time before TJ, and that the project I was on doesn't have a part time position, which is sort of good as I wasn't looking forward to returning to the project. And they have a new project manager who after 5 minutes with I decided was a real t@$$er. So I'm now almost ready to go back to work, but don't have a job to go back to. Had a call from HR yesterday, maybe another project has room for a part timer. But at the moment all I want to do is tell them to stick it.
Had a crappy birthday yesterday. Have a bladder/kidney infection (it appeared friday night while on holidays), so travelling 3 hours home wasn't too much fun with a huge back ache, and a DH who grumped when TJ wanted feeding. Went to the doc in the afternoon then had a very grumpy DH all evening. Would have liked to rewind the day and start all over again.
TJ is currently only taking half a feed at a time. She has 70-100ml then won't take any more for 45 min or so. Even after a night sleep of 8 hours. Any suggestions to try and make her have a full feed?
Sorry for the :ecomcity: and the fact that there's no personals.
Lisa
Forgot to say I love the new avatar pics that some of you have posted. Bubs are certainly growing up!
Mouse - Sorry to hear you are crook. Know what you mean about wanting to rewind your day....And your DH - mine can be the same. Spends 5 mins with the kids and then complains and I feel like saying "Welcome to my world honey".....the kids are like this all the time but you don't see me complaining!!!
Tabby - Jumping for joy here over your DP's job :smiliedance: . So sorry you have been feeling down but as you say - things have turned around for you now.
As for having another bub - I have been naughty too and haven't been using any contraception. Just haven't got around to getting my IUD put in. So much to do - so little time.
Thanks for your comments regarding the thoughtless mother......I just felt a bit stressed and under pressure at the time. When I am by myself with the 2 kids I sometimes feel like I am at boiling point and have to stop and take a few deep breaths. Had a grumbly day at DS yesterday. I asked him "Am I a good mummy" (stupid question) and he said "No I don't think so mummy". :laughing:
i'm off to do some time on the treadmill while Kelsey is napping (finally). Stay sane ladies!!
Ellembee
27-03-2007, 14:59
Hi everyone.
Yaaay to tabby re her DP's new job.
Victoria how is your little one going? Is she feeding a bit better/settling better?
Re weight - I know this is a terrible thing to say - but I like it when my little one doesn't put on very much weight as it makes me sad that she is growing up so quickly. I was sad when she moved out of newborn size nappies! Anyway - last week she was 4.2 kg at 8 weeks. So still a relatively little tot - but she looks huge to me!
We have been going backwards a bit here re eating and sleeping patterns. We have always been on 3 hourly feeds but she was starting to go to 2.5 hourly - and even at night! So am cracking down and am trying to stretch her to 4 hrly feeds. Its been tough - but no pain no gain as they say!!!!
Hope you are all well.
E xx
Josh has been asleep for 3 hours!! And he had 2 half hour sleeps when we were out this morning ... he hasn't fed for 6 hours. I wish he'd done this overnight! I had a busy day yesterday with my first mother's group (which was great!) and then I cooked dinner for the family last night (8 people + 3 babies). When I was feeding Josh at 8pm my eye was twitching which is a sure sign of extreme exhaustion (I haven't had it for weeks). I was living in hope he'd have a long sleep after that feed. No, at midnight, after only 2 hours of sleep I was woken by his screams for food. I was dizzy and barely able to stand, let alone stay awake whilst feeding him. I don't usually feel anywhere near that bad when I feed at night (maybe I was in the wrong part of the sleep cycle when he woke me up or something). Somehow we survived and he settled well, but woke me at 3am cause his hands were cold (he was the one who got his hands out of the wrap! :) ). Thankfully he wasn't hungry then, so I got a reprieve til 4:30am. But at 7:30am he was cold again! But, he slept (and so did I) for another 2 hours before his 'breakfast' feed.
The reason I asked about the feed play sleep thing was that Josh used to rarely sleep much during the day between feeds. He would powernap or just lie awake in his basinette (not unhappy, but not asleep either). It wasn't unusual for Josh to have 1 sleep of a couple of hours, but otherwise have a few 10 - 20 minute naps and that would be it for the day. But last week he started sleeping better during the day (like today) and he would do what the books say - awake for 1 - 1 1/2 hours, then asleep for 1 1/2 - 3 hours. I thought it was a bit of a myth! I had always imagined that I would have his daytime sleep time to do things around the house and catch up on sleep myself, but until last week it was not a reality for much of the day.
tabby ... that's great about your DP's job! Yeah!
flicka ... sometimes it's best not to ask those questions :D
mousebrown ... happybirthday ! Don't worry about a bigger feed, if that's enough for her, that's probably enough. My neice is 6 months old and is 'meant' to have about 900 - 1000ml of formula a day, but my SIL can only get 500 - 600ml into her. She's growing fine and putting on the right amount of weight, so for her that's fine. Just offer the bottle and when she doesn't want anymore stop.
finalcountdown ... I missed you! welcome back :)
cordelia ... don't worry about the weight. Weekly weight gains at this stage can be small. My paed said from 8 weeks the 'typical' weight gain is only 10 - 15g/day (70 - 100g/week). Given that a feed may be up to 200ml, weights can vary if they are before or after a feed and before or after a wet or dirty nappy.
Thanks everyone! :hugs:
Mouse: Happy birthday for yesterday! happybirthday
Sorry to hear was a crappy day though xx
Hope your feeling better soon
Hels:
Katie did a nice big soft poo about 9am and shes much better, tummy ache all gone . I did give her some infants friend when she first woke with it so dont know if thats loosened it a bit or the fruit juice from yesterday arvo caught up.
Strange to get so excited over the contents of her nappy :laughing:
Hi Flicka, ellembee, mim, cordelia :wave:
Charis and aries, have fun tomorrow!
well am off to put the feet up, shopping was fun
forgot to add, some cradle cap starting have got it early so hopefully not for long
Hels: Would it be worth your trying a AR formula to solve the runny poo problem? or have you already done that.
*Sparkles*
27-03-2007, 17:32
Mouse - Welcome back and sorry to hear about the bladder/kidney infection which you could definitely do without. I hope you're feeling better soon.
Tabby - I'm not too keen to switch to the AR forumula as I don't think R needs it as he's just a bit sickie, not reflux. He seems to be doing ok on half a scoop of thickener per bottle so I'll see how we go from here.
He was weighed today and is now 5 kgs (11 lbs) at just over 8 weeks, what a little porker :p She said his length is only 54 cms but I am going to check that as I think he is taller. But I think he will be a short ar$e like me though lol.
I hear him crying so I'd better go. Tonight is our last night with mum and dad, we are cooking dinner for them.
Hi again ladies...
Mim - When I was reading your post about little Josh I was actually thinking to myself OMG that was me with my DS (who is also a Josh). I can remember feeling dizzy during the night (and even during the day for that matter) basically because I was so exhausted so I can sympathise. Are you b/f??? Have you tried cluster feeds before bedtime to encourage him to sleep a bit longer at night? I probably haven't said anything you don't already know!!! Just say if I am being too nosy/bossy by offering advice.....hope you have a better night tonight.
Tabby - Oh yes......discussions about the contents of Kelsey and DS's nappies is common in my house. Sometimes DH comes home from work and after a bit will say "Has she done a poo today" like it is sooooo interesting....LOL.
Cradle cap? Yes we have it here too. I must get around to getting rid of it but the big bit is on her fontanelle (spell???) and I don't want to press on it in case I hurt her.
Weight - forgot to say I had Kelsey weighed and she was 6.4kg at just over 10 weeks. Even though she was a big bubba at birth (4.26kg) she hasn't put on as much as some of your bubs have. Did someone post that their little one was 7kg already - must be feeding them super milk!!!!
Sweet dreams to all the bubs and have a good rest mummies!!
finalcountdown - welcome back. It's hard to keep up with everyone sometimes. By the time i read all the posts, i forget who's said what. I think someone said they need to start taking notes...i agree :yes: :laughing:
mousebrown - happybirthday for yesterday. Hope you get the bladder/kidney infection sorted quickly.
Tabby - Yay! For DP's job. You must be very relieved. Good on him.
mim - sounds like Josh has turned into super sleeper. Send some of that magic this way. K seems to only sleep for 45-60 mins each nap.
Flicka - I hear you loud and clear about being out with 2 kids. I went out today and was totally buggered by the time we got home. People keep asking me if Jenna goes to daycare, I asked DH if i seem overly stressed/worn out like I can't handle 2 kids or something. It would be nice to have a day away from her every now and then. Just so i can miss her a bit, we have no support around us, so i don't get a break at all.
Koby's stats from CHC today. I'm not too fussed on the graphs but it's still interests me to see where he falls on it.
weight 5.7kg - 60th percentile
height 62.5cm -97th percentile
HC 39cm - 25th percentile
He kinda sounds like a perculiar looking lil man, doesn't he. Average weight, very tall with a little head! :eek:
But he is perfectly adorable. Little heads run in my family. LOL
flicka ... thankfully josh normally goes for much longer between feeds, so I might be tired at night but I rarely feel as bad as i did when I got up last night. I think he might be going through a little growth spurt cause his feeds are lasting longer at the moment and he's gone from 5 - 6 feeds a day to 6 - 7 feeds a day.
jenko ... josh has a small head too, which is funny cause big heads run in my family. His weight is on the 75th percentile, height 60th and head circ less than 50 ...
Strawberry_Shortcake
27-03-2007, 19:50
Hi Everyone,
Tabby – Congratulation to your hubby getting a job. :thumbsdown: for Centrelink.
finalcountdown - Welcome back. I was wondering where you went.
Mousebrown - Happy birthday for yesterday and sorry to hear about the bladder/kidney infection
Lukeandmattsmum – How was your first day back at work today?
As for having another bub - I also have been naughty too and haven't been using any contraception. I haven’t got around seeing my doctor yet to get a script. Would love to have a little brother for Talon.
Not much happening here. Everything is going great. Talon sleeps anywhere between 8 to 10 hours a night:yelclap: . Which is fantastic. He’s talking, smiling and dribbling a lot. He’s just at a great stage to be at and I’m loving every minute with him. I’ve also been told he’s definitely a mummy’s boy:laughing:
Anyway I’m going to relax and watch some tv before heading to bed.
Take care
Kel
*Sparkles*
27-03-2007, 22:19
I hate all this "percentile" stuff. The MHN kept going on about it today and it went in one ear and out the other. I tried to ask her what it all meant but she wouldn't say. Is it supposed to be an average or something???
Anyway, I left the clinic in a huff as she called my boy a "little shrimp" a few times too many :mad: :laughing:
Have a good night everyone :D
Lukeandmattsmum
28-03-2007, 07:57
Hi guys
well yesterday was my first day back at work. It went ok, i fed Matt at 2pm before i left for work and then by 5pm i could feel my boobies were getting full again, luckily i only had and hour left. When i got home i asked DP how Matt went and apparantly he slept from 2:30pm till 5pm and woke up hungary, so that was the same time i felt a let down.
For some reason last night i was unable to log on to the hub it kept saying incorrect password. But it worked fine this morning.:confused:
MOUSEBROWN hope you are feeling better soon. and happybirthday for the other day.
When i had DS1 because he was prem i used to get told how tiny he was and still do . Now with Matt i get the 'isn't he a big boy'. So i have had both ends of the scale here in regards to peoples comments. If someone used to say to me He's so tiny/big' i would just reply 'no, he is just perfect'.
Better go and do the dishes now.:thumbsdown:
lukeandmattsmum, glad your 1st day back at work went well!
Hels, with regards to percentiles, ignore the 'big' & 'small' comments, my CHN has always stressed it is more important as a tool to track each individuals growth rates. For instance if Bubs had always been on the 90th percentile for weight but suddenly the trend turned down and he was in the 50th percentile then it could signify something was wrong. The growth line should have a steady upward curve, not any significant dippy bits!
Well, we are off for needles today, wish us luck!
:hugs: for Michael ( & Mum ) for needle day.
victoria75
28-03-2007, 08:26
lukeandmattsmum - glad to hear your first day back went well. Amazing how our bodies work that you had the let down as he woke up.
Hels - OMG some people have no clue. Can completly relate. My nurse said I should stop putting S on a diet. It was a joke but with all the problems we have had I could have strangled her. IGNORE ALL COMMENTS I say. From the pictures I have seen. He looks PERFECT to me.
:hugs: - Hope the needles go well for Michael
Me - I am happy to report that we are no longer sleeping in my arms. SHe is self settling in her bed. Looks like the paed was right. He said with everything she has been through she just wants cuddles. She will sort it out when she is ready. I didnt change anything so looks like that was it. Thinking about it, it makes sense when I am sick I want lots of TLC also.
Have a good day all.
Ok back now K is asleep :thumbsup:
Victoria: Wonderful news about the self settling!
they do say those first few months cuddles when needed to sleep wont matter ( some say setting the path to being forever! pfft ) Like you said she needed the TLC and look now??? :smiliedance:
Lukeandmattsmum: Glad your first day back went well. lol at the letdown at the same time, freaky how that happens isnt it.
Hels: I agree the percentile is a crock! wth, a shrimp??? I dont get it? meaning small is it?
MY CN: last seen at 6 weeks. She commented on my teens weight and how DP was always on the comp when she home visited and I was thinking WTH just do your job and worry about the baby and me not the rest of my family, they are happy and content and damn well looked after and anyone can see that! What rights do they have to even say these things?
So gp for jabs and weigh ins at the chemist for me.
Do I have to go the 4 monthly cn?? or can a gp do that too, anyone know :(
Well better get the housework done while sleep time...hmmm first to go poke DP with the broom, as if sleep this late! :laughing:
Coming on here and reading everyones posts I feel much more relaxed than I did 10 mins ago :) .
Was feeling like worst mum in the world. I knew Cam was tired but he would not let me wrap him and got more hysterical each time I tried to wrap him (as did I :o ) and then I felt bad he was in such a state and picked him up for cuddles to fall asleep over my shoulder (which I think we both like) and then felt bad when he started to wimper again as a I tried to put him back down in the cot but it was only a brief protest and now sound asleep, hopefully for more than 40 mins :fingerscrossed: . I think it all feels worse than it really is because after 2 nights of sleeping over 8 hours, he went back to very unsettled days and 2 feeds a night and also for the last few days I've been feeding him with tissues stuffed up my nose (what a picture!) so I don't drip snot all over him. Don't think it's a cold or flu, just stuffy sinuses from being tired and run down but I'm over it all the same. Was going to try and go to postnatal yoga for the first time today but no way I was going to make it there by 9.30am.
Mim1 - Cam was a very sleepy bub to start with, up for an hour or so which was mostly feed time and then down for up to 4 or even 5 hours sleep. Then for a while he did seem to be on the 1 and 1/2 hr awake, 2-3 hours sleep routine. Now he is all over the place and really fighting to go down for sleeps. Have tried keeping him up longer and keeping him up less but have not yet found the magic formula.
Tabby - Congrats on DP's job!
Mouse - Hope you feel better soon :hugs:
Flicka - Can't believe the insensitivity of that other mum. Cam puts up some good protesting when we are out that makes me feel like apologising too. Other mums and their bubs always seem to be having such happy relaxed outings but I know they must have their moments too. To answer your question, the paediatrician we are seeing here is Dr Pat Ryan, opposite from the Mater Hospital. Just checked your profile and saw we have the same postcode. Wouldn't it be funny if it turns out I have moved into your street!
Thankfully I've got a good CHN, but I've heard some dreadful stories - mostly from my poor SIL who would cry for days after each visit. We were all so mad at that CHN for the stuff she said. You can request that you change CHN's and I also think you don't need to go if you don't want to.
Percentiles ... if your baby is on the 90th percentile, then 90% of babies are below your baby in height/weight/length. If your baby is on the 10th percentile, then 10% of babies are below your baby. The important thing to remember is that 10% of babies are below the 10th percentile, so it's ok for your baby to be there. As someone said it's only when your baby crosses over percentile lines (eg. goes from the 90th percentile to the 50th) that you need to worry. BUT, if a baby gets sick, its common for growth to slow for a bit, then pick up.
Josh had a better night, feeding at 7pm, midnight, 5:30am and 9am. He had a bit of a screaming fit last night from reflux ... I worked out why - the nappy was on too tight (oops!). He was still distressed after a new nappy though (he was overtired by then), so I put on the heart sounds CD and held him til he fell asleep ... he then slept for 2 1/2 hours, so that was great.
I went to an early parenting program (2 hour session) at the hospital where I had my baby. I dragged my dh along cause I thought it would be useful. It was dreadful. I took Josh in arms (wasn't sure if there would be room for the pram/cocoon) and was greated with "oh, you didn't bring anything to put him in, well you're setting a very bad precendent aren't you?". I wanted to leave then and there, but we stayed. She said that under NO circumstances should you let your baby go to sleep in your arms and under NO circumstances should you put your baby to sleep in the cot by touching them. You should get them to self settle or if that doesn't work you can rock the basinette or play a bit of music. She also had a number of other 'rules' that parents MUST follow which I won't say cause I'm still distressed about them weeks later.
'She' works in the mother-baby unit and i KNOW that she is coming from the wrong perspective and seeing mothers and babies at 6 months with trouble and then saying that everything they've done 'wrong' must never be done by anyone. BUT, I had trouble convincing myself. The irony is that it was the first time in maybe a week that Josh had slept in my arms and he had always self settled (she didn't ask that!). BUT, since then I've had to settle him in my arms once or twice a day and I feel so guilty when I do, but if he doesn't go to sleep he screams from being overtired. I'm glad that the rest of you seem to be letting your bub sleep in your arms sometimes ...
Mim1 - isn't it sad that we feel guilty letting them go to sleep in our arms. It doesn't help that DH will usually shake his head at me when I do it but there is crying and then there is crying - I do try and let him settle himself as much as I can but once he's worked himslef into a state the only other way he'll fall asleep without being held is from sheer exhaustion and I don't 'feel' that's fair for a little bub.
Must say lots of my ideas from before bub's arrival have flown out the window - or at least been modified.
Thanks for all the well wishes. Think the drugs are starting to work, as my back pain isn't getting any worse.
Charis...I realised I hadn't answered your 'cold hands' questions after I got offline yesterday, so here goes today. The bonds suits have fold down hands so you can enclose bubs hands full in the suit. So far I haven't had to do that with TJ yet this year. No doubt with your concrete floors you're feeling the cold. The cold nights seem to have come on quickly this year. You might also want to get a radiator heater (oil heater) for Hunters room. These don't cost a lot to run and once you've worked out the appropriate temp settings you can keep his room at a constant temp all night. I also have a grobag egg (displays the room temp) that I use when the weather gets cold and I have the heater going. Note that the Bonds wondersuit sizes are always smaller than other clothes of the same size, so always go a size bigger than you think.
Tabby...there's no rules to say you must take Katie to a CHN. I didn't like the ones I had for DD1, so simply didn't go. Sometimes those Chemist nurses are easier and just as helpful, and you can always take her to a GP if you have any real questions/problems.
Cradle cap...yep, we've got it too. Like you Flicka, it seems to be on the fontanelle. I've been brushing that part of TJ's hair with a babies brush for the past couple of days and it seems to be getting better.
An ok night here, TJ slep 6 hours and DD1 slept through again.
Had a call from work yesterday, the Sydney project has room for a part-timer, so looks like I'll be going back after Easter. Just have to find out exactly what they want me to do before I commit.
Have a great day,
Lisa
Cordelia
28-03-2007, 11:18
Aahhh... it was so lovely to sit here with my hot cup of milo (not coffee as I think that's been affecting Caitlin's sleep!) and read all your messages. It's so nice to know that people are experiencing the same things!!
Mim: I can't believe what that woman was saying!! I thought patting was ok... seriously, if I left Caitlin to her own devices she would not sleep. They're little babies for goodness sake... After being in our womb for 9 months (some less!!)... (some more!!) and having all that contact I think it would be terrible to not hold them and comfort them in your arms.
All these nasty CHN's as well.. Don't they realise that we live and breathe our babies and take everything to heart? It's crazy... fortunately mine are absolutelyl lovely and are so encouraging... in fact, after my chemist nurse experience I'm going to go to the CHN Clinic next week and ask for some affirmation.
Re Sleep: Sounds like some of yo uare having troubles again. Caitlin is still waking in the night after our 2 weeks of blissful all-nighters.. do you think it's the change in season maybe??? It's driving me insane. Getting up at 2:30 every morning is awful after h aving experienced these wonderful all-nighters.
mousebrown - good to see they found "something" for you - I hope it's suitable!
Oh my gosh.. she's awake... she has only slept 40 minutes since 3:30 this morning (it is now 10:20...)ridiculous....
tired*mummy
28-03-2007, 11:30
Hi everyone,
WOW Heaps to catch up on. Havent been on for a couple of days.
CHN: Sierra's is pretty good. She doesnt give me any advice unless i ask for it and she talks & plays with Sierra. The CHN i had with DD1 was pretty nasty tho.
Sleep: Sierra has been sleeping quite well. A couple of nights shes gone 6 hrs between feeds which has been really good for me lol. Last night she fed at midnight and then at 6:15am so that was also quite good. Some nights she is awake every 3-4 hours tho which is pretty annoying but we get thru it.
Sierra still hasnt had her needles and she was 10 weeks yesterday. I still have to wait another week until she is completely over her cold/cough. Shes alot better now tho.
Question: I've asked this before and probably TMI but I still havent had AF since Sierra's birth. Its been 10 weeks and i'm starting to stress a little... NO i'm not Pregnant :laughing: But just dont know if its normal to go this long when i'm not b/f. Do you think its normal or should i see my OB?
Sierra just woke & needs a feed,
take care
:wave:
Tired mummy: I had a peak last week google about post baby AF and some ( even not bf'ing ) can be up to 6 months plus! I had gone to depo at 5 weeks but should have at least spotted since then ( first few af's) even did a preg test yesterday but it was a neg.
MouseB: Thanks for clearing chn for me. Think I will stick to chemist one here, they we very very nice.
More on cuddles to sleep:
As said they are after all only tiny babes and WOW is it a BIG and sometimes scary! world out here and if you cant trust mum to cuddle it all away....:thumbsup:
Started dieting today :eek:
Lean cuisines etc etc
DP just walked past and says "want a chip?" ffs MEN :laughing:
sugar n spice
28-03-2007, 11:57
Tabby that is great your on a diet, i need to get my butt to the gym.
Ashton is a really good sleeper at night. he woke at 4.30 this morning for a feed though.
I have such a hectic day this afternoon have to run around doing lots of errands once pay comes in after i pick ethan up from school then after i do everything i have to get home and get ready to go to tafe where im studying to do my stats test.
all have slight colds here.
ashton has the cradle cap aswell. baby oil and a baby brush works wonders
I finally worked out how to add my avatar :). It's only taken me a year to put one up! Isn't Josh cute?
I wanted to recommend the Sounds For Silence CD. I think hels mentioned it the other day. I got given it and had tried it earlier with very limited success, but I've used it for 2 nights running to get him to sleep and I've used it after both feeds this morning and he goes to sleep in under a minute after I start the CD. It's amazing!
aww mim hes gorgeous!!!! How huge is that smile of his??!!
Hi there ladies.
Cat - Same postcode hey? I bet you live in Kirwan. I live at Alice River (past the Willows shops and keep going). I hear Pat Ryan is very nice.
Cordelia - Do you think Caitlin might be waking due to a growth spurt?
On the topic of letting baby sleep in your arms - I think alot of it is down to how you feel as a mum. We rocked DS to sleep until he was about 6 or 7 months old and then we taught him how to self settle and he has turned out fine (so far). We got heaps of comments like "you are making a rod for your own back" etc but he was a really colicky/reflux baby and I personally felt he needed the cuddles and mummy time. With Kelsey sometimes I put her down and sometimes I rock her to sleep but I HATE to let her cry. Grizzling is fine but once she starts with real crying and real tears I pick her up. After all - they are only babies once and for such a short time. Why not make the most of it with lots of cuddling?? And as for the CHN that said NEVER rock/pat to sleep she sounds like a pretty miserable person to want to let a helpless baby cry. Aren't they trying to tell us something by crying (like "I'm upset/ scared/ hurting/lonely mummy please pick me up").
Sorry for the rant but I just feel that people should do what they feel they need to do and shouldn't be criticised by others.....
Enough from me. Kelsey just had a 2 hour sleep and got up for a boob feed and went straight back to sleep.....what a good girl to give me a break.
DH is away for a few days so I am all on my lonesome and like alot of you mums don't have any family nearby to rely on. Hope I can stay sane!!!!
Take care
*Sparkles*
28-03-2007, 17:03
Tabby - Yes the shrimp comment was a polite way of saying he's a short ar$e. I think he looks in proportion but most likely won't be all that tall but then neither am I. She made it sound like a crime though!!
Re sleeping in arms, R doesn't often do this but sometimes he falls asleep when we are burping him. He also falls asleep on his horseshoe feeding cushion or in his swing. We let him sleep where ever he wants to because he always goes to bed with no fuss at night and is a good night sleeper. I don't believe in putting him in his basinette every time as I feel it's important for him to be around us rather than be stuck in a bedroom for half of the day, but that's just me.
We took my parents to the airport this arvo as they are headed home to the UK via Malaysia (stopping for a couple of days). It was very hard saying goodbye to them so I feel quite lonely and sad at the moment :gloomy:
Hels :) Hugs too. Emotional time!!
Lots of CHN issues and good on everyone for believing in themselves, with all of us to bolster you, you know yr bubs better than anyone and you do what works for you! :yelclap: So hugs to Mim1 and others!
MouseBrown, happy birthday week. Hope yr infection is clearing up. Had noticed you and yr yellowsmiley avatar had disappeared :( Thanks heaps about the fold over wondersuit note. I was reading it with said wondersuit cloaking a feeding H-y and YES of course yr right, little fold over bits.He has mittens with the same kinda pillow slip bits too?? Great suggestion about oil heater..had one that stopped last winter..it might be the impetus to move in with H's Dad, specially as he's being kind and loving this week. Still the last two words are not great to add. A lot of heaters would be more reliable. :o Am not really cold hearted, just cold feeted! Good news about Sydney, spec if more interesting than San Fran.
Hugs to Cat13 for drippy sinuses, yes the visual image of the tissues was a good one and TLC to Victoria75.
Real life + Bubhub crossed over again with Aries Moon and I at KEMH physio class with bubs..and lunch, YUM. Tabby you also birthed there?? It certainly feels like its doing something for my flabby tummy and legs..About 12 girls today, all ages with our bubs between 6wks-16weeks. Free and 11-12.30 PhysioDept on LG. Great to see K and X again!
Luke+Matts great about the start of work.
SammyG + Michael all the best for the needles!
Ellembee are you still around? What size nappies are you using? I also relate to the wanting them to stay small thought, of course not enough to limit his growth! But H is certainly still in newborn nappies, despite being over 5kg..cheaper/neater too..the next size up went up to his ribs!!
Happy sleeps. Just the one wake for me these days. xx
Freddie, I agree sometimes with the less is more philosophy, but dunno about bubs..I think a stimulating play gym is great. Surprised how many toys/colorful rattly things/books H has! I try to just have 3-4 things out at once..but that works for about 5 mins. It is lovely when they start with the recognition of things isn't it!!
bossoflatch
28-03-2007, 20:39
wow - so much has happened here - heaps to catch up on -
Luke+Matts - glad to hear work was good -
i started back 2 weeks ago - and it has been working out good - mind you i am a shift worker so bubs was sleepin all the time i am gone and she wakes up when i am getting to bed - god bless dh - he hands her to me for a feed and then takes her so i can sleep !!
hels - :hugs: hope you are holding up okay with the parents gone and all -
mousebrown - happy belated birthday - sorry to hear it wasn't too good though for you the last week...
hope all the babies having needles are good - Tayla had hers yesterday - we weren't sure what to expect as we went to get them last week and the dr wouldn't do them as her ears have been inflammed since birth - apparently she might have hearing problems so she will have to go get further tests when she is better - she did get her needles in the end yesterday - it was decided that she needed them and can't wait for the ears to get better (it may never happen apparently - they might always have problems on and off??) and then to add to that the doc was worried as my ds2 reacts really bad to titinus needles - his first injection he ended up in hospital with a bad reaction - so they were concerned that tayla might be the same...
in regards to cold hands - we put tayla in a normal coverall suit (ie bonds ) and then we use newborn socks on her hands - they work really good - we found it out with the boys as they are thicker and are more elastic bubs can't get them off.. and their hands are toastie warm in the morning... ;)
we started the self settling with tayla about two weeks ago - and she manages to get herself to sleep during the day but at night she still needs abit of help - which i really don't mind coz she is sleeping thru about 10 hours !!!:smiliedance:
are there many still breast feeding ??? i am still bfing tayla but she has about 200mls of formula a day - broken up into 50mls thickened topups after each feed... i don't know how to get my milk up so she isn't looking for it anymore ??? i offer more boobie inbetween but then she will just keep looking for the bottle - after that feed too???
i better go and get some sleep whilst she is down - :thumbsup:
More :hugs: for you Hels but just think now you have little Reece all to yourself and don't have to share the cuddles!!!
You ladies that had your bubs at KEMH - can you believe I was born there (although I'm sure it has changed alot since then).
Tabby - Are you still wrapping Kaitlyn and is she still being a little houdini? I have been putting Kels on her tummy for the first night sleep and then wrapping in the early morning to get her used to sleeping w/out it. BUT for those of you that live in the cold - you will probably want to wrap for longer. I am still sleeping with the air con on here!!
Charis - How are you coping with work and little Hunter at the moment?
Kelsey was so cute this arvo - I was talking to her and she was making these cute squeaking noises like she was trying to laugh. She still hates her tummy time but I figure she actually spends a bit of time on her tummy when she wakes up from a nap......She still doesn't hold herself up like Hunter does though - he looks strong Charis.
Off to bed now - nighty night.
Bossoflatch - have you thought about fenugreek tea or capsules. Also found a thread for a recipe for lactation boosting cookies in the breastfeeding section - I made them and they were yum. Also someone on there said you should eat oats for brekky. Probably just old wives tales but may be worth a look at :thumbsup:
Yes still wrapping Flicka, I did try one arm out but no go. Have resigned myself to the fact we will keep doing it till shes ready. I got a tip off one mum to use first wrap like a band, folded in half, shoulder/chest height and 2nd wrap as normal, working so far ( 3 nights ) and she doesn't unwrap until she wakes which is ok. Much Much cooler here now so wrapping isnt such a hassle, no worries of if shes overheating as well..
Katie doesnt mind tummy play but no way does she like tummy sleeping.
ha. I was born kemh and so was my mother too! 3 generations here.. Its looking its age now thats for sure. There was talk of a new one to replace it I heard?
Oh another baby: I was talking to DP earlier and I dont think it will be much of a hassle to talk him round ;) I asked Katie if shed like sister/brother and all he said was " I thought you said no more after that birth experience" lol oh my how we forget that when we look at that first morning smile...He would have said an outright NO WAY otherwise. will keep you posted as I work my way there :laughing: If all goes to plan there wont be a follow up depo come next month
Bit of a restless day for K, not sure what was up, but come 7pm bath and feed and she fell sound asleep near the end of bottle..
Amazes me how she knows bath = a bottle right after now. No matter what time last bottle was she lets it known soon as shes dressed " I had my bath now wheres my bottle"
Hi Tabby, just wondering if Katie puts up a fight while actually being wrapped or if she just tries her houdini act afterwards. It's getting so Cameron starts screaming as soon as we try to get the first corner wrapped over one arm. Just got him to sleep now with about half an hour of lying on the couch and gentle stroking because could not get him wrapped....can't believe what a strong little ball of muscle he is.
Flicka - good guess! Yep, have just moved to Kirwan. Might see you down at Willows sometime. No family or friends nearby for me either, one of the pitfalls of being a defence family always on the move. What GP do you go to? Have been going to Kirwan Family Practice but have found LONG wait times and hard to get an appointment. Also, is there somewhere you go to get Kels weighed etc between GP visits? The GP I saw said that in QLD newborn care is followed up with a GP and no children's health centres as such?
Charis - moved Cameron out of the newborn nappies even though he is under 5kg because they were just not containing his poos anymore! Using cloth nappies as well but pop on a disposable for a feed because that's when he does his worst!
Hope everyone has a good day :thumbsup:
Ellembee
29-03-2007, 08:44
Hi Charis - I am still around. I might not post much, but I do keep up with you all pretty regularly. I use the infant size huggies which are for 4kg - 8 kg. She was starting to have a few accidents with poos - and I was told this means the nappies are too small. So I moved her on.
Hels - I can imagine how tough it is without your parents. My American friend has just gone through the same thing and she cried for a week she reckons.
Us - The move to 3 - 4 hourly feeds is going ok. As the day goes on though, it seems to get harder for her to hang out. I am thinking of sticking to the 4 hourly feeds during the day and then doing a cluster feed in the early evening. Will see how we go this afternoon. I am still getting up twice - at 1.30 and 4.30. It seems to happen regardless of whether I wake her at 10 for a feed. Its really a dilemna! What does everyone else do?
Hels :hugs: for you having to say bye to your parents. Mine only live 6 hours away and I cry for hours every time I have to say goodbye. Must be very hard. And don't worry about that silly nurse. Like others have said, just use it as guide for R's own growth rate. My doc used to go on about Jenna's head being small, I use to say "yes but I have a small head" She just looked at me like I was a lunatic. She still has a small head and so does Koby.
Ellembee- Koby feeds once or twice during the night. He goes to sleep around 7-7.30pm and wakes at 1-2am and sometimes 4ish. He wakes again at about 5am lately and DH gets him up/nappy change and play till I crawl out around 6am or if he's super hungry.
Nappies - K is in 4-8kg huggies, but I think he could even go up to the next size :eek:
Wrapping - I'm still wrapping K, but he is starting to fight his way out. When he wakes up he usually has one or 2 hands out.
I've been looking at Grobags on ebay. Gosh some of them get expensive, you could buy them brand new on sale for the same price...and that's not even with postage :eek: I guess the change in weather has everyone thinking about warm night wear, should have looked a few weeks ago. :rolleyes:
Oooh Tabby talk of another one already. Good for you! Hope it all goes to plan for you.
Ecck what would I do without you all!? Nappies - somehow saw and bought the next size up as crawlers 6-11kg hehe no wonder they went up to his ribs :)
His Dad cooked us dinner, looked after him while I went for a run..and did the dishes..then he went home and H and I slept till 5.20am yah..and H is just up now. WOW happy me.:wave:
Happy days today all!!
wow - so much has happened here - heaps to catch up on -
are there many still breast feeding ??? i am still bfing tayla but she has about 200mls of formula a day - broken up into 50mls thickened topups after each feed... i don't know how to get my milk up so she isn't looking for it anymore ??? i offer more boobie inbetween but then she will just keep looking for the bottle - after that feed too???
i better go and get some sleep whilst she is down - :thumbsup:
Bossoflatch...you sound like me with the feeding and then needing bottle topups...ours is due to some initial problems with cracking/blistering and all sorts of other painful things. Audrey gets somewhere between 200 - 300 formula a day and then the rest is boob and ebm.
I've been trying the fenugreek + cookies and they are yum! Went to GP and I'm taking maxalon 3 times a day...which has help some but she still has her fussy moments which I don't think are anything to do with the amount of milk.....she seems to get impatient as soon as the milk slows down....so then we give her a bottle which means she gets used to the faster more consistent flow!!! It's a vicious circle! I've also been pumping as much as a can.
Gotta go....she's calling!
Cat13: nope no trouble to wrap, she actually grins while doing it like she knows shes going to bed and is happy to go. Only time she seems to object is if I try just that bit too early ( not quite tired enough ).
Nappies: We changed over some weeks ago to huggies infant, quite big on her but like others said seems to contain the poos better, no accidents so far! Yep Charis, nearly fell for the next size being crawlers also as infant size dont come in a box!
worst night ever!!! from 1 am -5 am she moaned/grizzled/lifted legs ( poo pain I think as it looked like she was about do one but nothing) and ended up on the lounge from 2 am cuddling her, didnt stop her from moaning and whatnot though, till about 5 when she decided a bottle was in order and slept from 6-8 ok.
Shes now done a BIG poo so hopefully that was the problem as all ok now. She was very restless during the day yesterday too.
dp up so am off back to bed!
Luvmytum
29-03-2007, 10:55
hi everyone
It's been a loooonngg time since I've been able to post ( i rarely even get to read the posts now) & even now I don't have the time but I need HELP! I hope everyone's doing well & apologies up front that I'm not doing personalss.
Isabella seems to be suffering terrible reflux - every time we put her down she screams, she keeps vomiting up (not projectile) & you can tell she's in pain. When I feed sometimes shes pulling off & crying with her mouth on my & bucking her legs. We've always thought she had wind as she only spews a little bit sometimes after feeds - not what I thought reflux was.
Sorry if this hass been discussed before but I don't have time to go back & read through everyones posts. Do you guys have any remedies?
I'm doing the following: Sitting her upright as much as possible, particularly after feeds for at least 30 mins. Her bed is elevated. Trying to limit the amount she feeds at the moment so she's not too full & making sure we burp her.
This has only gotten worse in the last week as she's had a cold for 10 days with lots of snot & mucus that no doubt has made it worse.
I remember what it was like getting reflux when pg so I can imagine how awful it is.
PLEASE HELP!! It breaks my heart seeing her cry like that - she screams until she's red/blue in the face & screams beyond breath.
They say to feed her upright - how the hell do you do that?
Thank you!
sugar n spice
29-03-2007, 11:02
:hugs: luvmy tum - are your breast feeding if so im not sure but anti reflux formula helps really well and you can get brauer colic relief or tummy calm drops and infanst friend works great. :hugs:
It may be worth a trip to the GP luvmytum.
Sounds more like colic re: the pain involved/ the pulling off when feeding/bucking her legs/screaming etc....Im thinking more colic than reflux
Katie has reflux but only mild ( no pain what so ever ). Just spews up her feeds. The thickener has helped her immensely but not sure if that would help you.
Oooh Tabby talk of another one already. Good for you! Hope it all goes to plan for you.
Yep! Cant afford too much wait time in between for me, age wise :D
k is sound asleep! Must have been poo pains
jacstar31
29-03-2007, 11:41
Hels- hope that its not too hard with your parents gone, it sounds like they have been a great support!
Tabby - sorry to hear you had a bad night, hope tonight will be better!
i am already using 6-11kg nappies, have been for quite a while! Geoffrey is just over 7kgs now!! hard to believe I know, he is nearly 4 mths old.
re; sleeping through the night, not happening as much now, Geoffrey has a last feed lately about 6pm and then sleeping till about 2am, so I know that is still 8 hrs, and then has a feed and goes back to sleep till 6-7am, so can't complain!
I can't bear to wake him at 10-11pm, even though it would make my life easier, he is sleeping so peacefully, I don't want to wake him up!
Cordelia...TJ seems to be doing the same as Caitlyn for night feeds. Before the cold weather set in she was 8-9 hours sleep. She's now lucky to get 6 hours sleep, which means a 2am feed again - yuk! Last night she took 2 hours to feed and settle, wasn't impressed. :fingerscrossed: things improve again for both of us soon.
Tired Mummy...I think AF revists when she's ready, don't panic if she doesn't show up for a while, enjoy it!
Luvmytum....Sorry Tabby, will have to disagree with you on the colic rather than reflux. What you have described Luvmytum is what DD1 used to do and she had bad reflux for over 12 months. I'd suggest a visit to your GP, and perhaps some medication. Losec worked for DD1, I used to mix it up (a drop of warm water broke the tabelt down) in a bit of Farax and feed it to her after her milk feed (yes, from 10 weeks she had solids). She used to have half a tablet twice a day.
Hels...:hugs:hope you start to feel cheery again soon.
Charis...After I logged off I had a thought about the Bonds wondersuits. Don't know if the generic new ones have the fold down hands, the ones I was thinking of were the Cosy Cuffs Wondersuits. But the socks someone suggested also sounds a good idea.
Aside from a shocking 2 hour feed and settle last night, with interruptions from DD1, we are doing ok.
Had to laugh at DH while on holidays. As there was no bath in the cabin, TJ had to shower with me, leaving DH to dry and dress her. Unfortunately he seems to have problems with the new Huggies nappies. Well, the fact that they are patterned all over. He managed to put her nappy on backwards three times. In the end I had to remind him that Pooh was at the front as I handed over a dripping TJ:laughing: .
One the last morning I left out a legless body suit and some long pants for him to put on her. Got out of the shower to find TJ looking like she was ready to head off to the gym, with body suit done up over the pants:laughing: .
Have a great day!
I just have to have a big whinge which i didn't get time for earlier......yesterday some little old lady drove into the back of me on the Riverside Expressway....gave Audrey a huge scare and she screamed..... anyway we are ok; it wasn't very fast but I am so mad!!!!
Rang the insurance company and she told me to go and buy a new carseat, then I had to take the car to the smash repairers for a quote.....now today they tell me i have to take the quote and the car and the old car seat to the assessors and then take it all back to smash repairers and somehow pick up a hire car from 20km away and fit the carseat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To top it all off the pram is in the boot and we can't open it...well we can but we can't be sure if we'll be able to close it again!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just so mad.... @(*$*&%!(&@(*$&)*^!(^@)&........the moral of the story is that old ladies should not drive cars and that insurance companies have no idea of the hassle it is to get in and out of a car and do all these things when I have nowhere to put her except a baby bjorn....try fitting a carseat in the hire car with her in that!!!!!!
Anyway, the upshot is my parents were staying this weekend and they are going to extend their stay to monday so dad and i can do all the running around and mum with look after bubs. This will save DH messing around at work because of course all the places we have to go only operate between 9 - 5!!!!! and he's trying to clock up a few extra hours so we can leave early on thursday for our easter holiday!
Sorry for the extended whinge.....it's a good thing Audrey is such a beautifully well behaved baby!!!
Ellembee
29-03-2007, 14:58
luvmytum - I agree with Mousebrown -it does sound like reflux and not colic. My dd suffers a bit from it. I spoke to her paed about it and she said that the vomit is simple reflux and the unsettled feeding and after feeding is "silent reflux" . She said you can't do anything about the vomiting (when b/feeding anyway), but you can relieve the silent reflux by giving them a bit of mylanta in a dropper. I can't remember how much she said to give though - as she told me not to bother about it as my little one was only getting episodes of silent reflux about once a week (now its not at all). I also read somewhere that if you are b/feeding - you should limit the amount of acidy foods you take in (eg citrus/tomatoes and also fizzy drinks). When my little one had her silent reflux episodes - she was much more comfertable sitting upright too. It is heartbreaking to see them in pain though isn't it? Even the few episodes my little one got - I ended up in tears too. So good luck. :hugs:
nappies - Charis - I also nearly made the same mistake re crawler nappies. Tabby - Good to know they don't come in a box - as I thought it was just my dumb supermarket that didn't have them.
E xx
*Sparkles*
29-03-2007, 18:52
Tired*Mummy - The only thing I can suggest is either the AR formula or karicare thickener which can be mixed in with EBM or formula. Also, I give Reece 1 ml of Mylanta liquid which helps with wind and tummy pain. I only give it to him when he is squirming alot and bringing his legs up, usually once every couple of days.
Tabby - Good on you for thinking about another bub, I am too but not just yet. Although the time factor is an issue here too. It's funny how just a few months ago we were all complaining about the symptoms of late pregnancy and couldn't wait for it to end, and here we are thinking about doing it all again! :laughing:
Cate - Sorry to hear about the car accident and troubles that followed :hugs: I hope it gets sorted for you soon. Glad neither of you were hurt.
Today was my first day by myself with Reece. We both had a good sleep and got up at 11am! so it was a good start to the day. He had a bath with me and then sat happily in his bouncer whilst I ran around tidying up, doing washing etc. This arvo we went to our first bubhub meet with the Feb ladies and had a great time. Got back around 7pm and DH was already home and wondering where the hell we were lol. It was a good first day :D
I do not understand why Infant nappies don't come in a box - weird!!!
Cate, what a hassle! I'm feeling for you!
Mouse, Michael was jiggled to sleep while I was PML at the visual image you planted when DH dressed TJ like the guy doing ballet on that Beer TVC, I'm smiling again now just thinking about it!
Jacstar, can't believe Geoffrey is almost 4months. I'm still getting over Michael being 8weeks.
Tabby, sorry to hear about your rough night. I'm getting clucky too but can't face the thought of 3 at home full-time. Will have to hang out for Michael to be a little over 1 before I start working on DH to try for #3, DS1 will be almost at school then.
Hels, more :hugs: wish I could shrink the oceans for you so you can be closer to your parents. Glad your 1st day at home with R was good though!
Luvmytum, glad to see you here, hope the probs are solved quickly.
Charis, you amazing super mummy, sounds like nearly DP is getting his act together lately & so he should!
Well, needles went as well as could yesterday and have got script for rotavirus. Michael has had a slight fever but baby panadol sorted him out and has made him a bit sleepy. Went to the clinic for check-up today, very happy with his steady progress. He is going to be long & lean like his big brother. I do envy those mums with chubba bubbas but as long as he's healthy and growing I'm happy. We are consistently doing 6 hrs between last night & v early morning feed now, can't wait for him to stretch out that little bit more but this is manageable.
My current dilemna is picking photos from our professional shoot done a couple of weeks ago, she took too many good shots and I'm not exactly flush with cash. We were given a shoot for DS1 so I thought it only fair we did the same with Michael. My new avatar is from the shoot.
luvmytum ... josh has really bad reflux and he is much better on zantac which was started by his paed. We weren't 100% sure if it was silent reflux or not, so for starters josh went on mylanta (2ml) after each feed. Within 24 hours I had a new baby, so then he was started on zantac. mylanta can't be given long term cause it causes problems, but it can be given short term or every now and again. i was wary about recommending it without seeing a doctor, but then at a parenting class the nurse told someone to use it, so why don't you give it a go if you need to wait to see your gp? After a feed is finished give the 2ml with an eyedropper (get one from the chemist). Yes, it tastes yuck and a fair bit of it will come out again, but just get as much in as you can. Putting in a dummy (if you use one) immediately after giving it will encourage it to be swallowed. you can also try giving it in a bottle teat - that is working well for us now when josh needs it (he can have a dose every 2 - 3 days if needed - if he needs it more often he needs a stronger regular medication).
The basic stuff for reflux includes:
raising the head of the cot
avoiding tight waistbands of nappies and clothes
avoiding lying flat for play time (don't worry my brother wasn't on the floor til after 6 months cause of bad reflux and he walked fine - thankfully now we have medications that weren't around then!)
i haven't found any convincing evidence that our diet affects the baby's reflux when we are breastfeeding, so don't stress out about that.
feeding upright? get real! it's impossible when breastfeeding, so don't worry about it.
Reflux babies feed often cause they like the comfort of sucking and i assume the breastmilk soothes the sore esophagus. They will often give out hunger signs when they actually aren't hungry and that's part of the reason of pulling off the breast. Giving out the frequent hunger signs does NOT mean you don't have enough milk and she needs formula topups.
Basically I think you need to take her to the doctor and get her started on medication as soon as possible. Simple measures only go so far in controlling symptoms when things are as bad as you describe. The good news is that medication is usually successful (it controls symptoms, not cures them - but Josh only has slight symptoms every couple of days now instead of all the time).
:hugs: it will get better
:wave:
All is well in Alice Springs, river is running again! It is so beautiful but the temp has plummmeted.
Breastfeeding - yep still going strong, Billy is a little fat boy and CHN are suprised about his weight considering he is a BF baby - 6.7kg @ 11weeks. The drama is that he only like BF laying down, which is a terrible drama when we are out and about. Can you imagine if I just dropped myself to the floor to feed him :laughing:
Wrapping - yep, nice and tight
Keeping baby warm - I find dressing them in singlet and wondersuit as well as wrapping is good but when it gets really REALLY cold - I will dress him in the wondersuit and then put him in one of those sleeping bags with the arms.
Nappies - Huggies 6 - 11kg
Cate - sorry to hear about the accident, always scarey especially with a bub
Hels - I felt really depressed when my mum left and also a bit scared of how I was going to cope. Took about 2 weeks to get into the swing of things without her, but did find my way
Lots of bubble blowing going on with Billy - :laughing: :p
MouseB: LOL at dh and the way put on TJ's outfit
jackstar: I found if I woke Katie at 10 ( to get to sleep later ) she still woke at 3 or 4 am.
A couple of weeks ago she went through to 6 and 7 am and has since.
Cate: wow so glad to hear your both ok! :hugs:
frightening none the less. Hope you get it all sorted monday.
Ellembee: I was the same, I thought woolies here just wasn't stocking them. Silly really.
Hels: yep and my pregnancy wasn't the best plus after my ordeal birth wise I said NEVER again lol.
Aww so happy your day went so well. and WOW on that sleep in! am envious!
sammyg; Glad the needles wernt too bad. Hope Michael is doing well and any fever gone soon
LOVE the new pic!!!!!
Hi Karrina :wave: Sounds like all is going great. Am loving the temp drop here, makes wrapping K so much easier. No stress if too hot. Will have to think about a small heater though for after bath, last night she was shivering! tonight wasnt so bad.
She slept well late arvo ( after a bad night and morning ). 4+half hrs between feed and 3+half of that asleep. Plus shes gone down to bed easier than last night so hopefully :fingerscrossed: whatever was the problem has passed.
sleep vibes to all! :hugs:
bossoflatch
29-03-2007, 21:57
hi to all!!!
boy this thread moves fast!!!
lovemytum- i agree with the other mums - it really does sound like silent reflux - taylas peadiatrician said there are too types of reflux - normal chucky babies and then silent reflux - when the babies don't nessecarily chuck but scream as if in pain all the time -
My bubs was doing what yous is now - pulling of the breast as if she had a belly ache - would only feed whilst there was a good flow of milk - more content feeding every few hours !!! all signs of silent reflux - there is a thread on here under the colic and reflux section - there is one with links to risa - reflux infant support association . they have great advice on their to help you out -
my bubs started on 1ml of mylanta - after everyfeed (as she wouldn't settle at all after a feed ) always wanting to feed after only 1 hr --- the mylanta was working but slowly stopped - and then she was on zantac for a couple of weeks as soon as she started it she was like a new baby - we got heaps of smiles out of her !!! but as that is weight reliant - that also stopped working after a few weeks even after increasing the dose - So finally she is on losec and it does her wonders ... the only time i hear from her is when she is overtired... i know it is working as today i forgot her dose - naughty mummy!!! and didn't realise until she started getting a little chuchky and then i smelt it was really acidic - she was really unsettled and grizzly and then i clicked i forgot her losec -- gave it to her and in a couple of hours she was back to herself again - drifting of to sleep like nothing ever happened...
i agree with mim!!! if you try her on the mylanta first- after a couple of feeds - you can see if it makes a difference - if it is going to work you will see an instant change then and there - sometimes i still have to give tayla a little mylanta - when i put her down to sleep and she is restless - i give her a tiny bit of mylanta and that settles her !!!! ( i do think diet effects the milk though - usually when i have to give her mylanta i have had something out of the ordinary ie tomatoes or citrus :eek: )
at least if you try the mylanta for a day or two and then go to the doctors you can say either it did or didn't work and then they could have other suggestions for you ---- it really is hard to see them in so much pain - i remember before we had tayla on meds she had tears rolling down her eyes - and all the hiccups she was getting- you could tell they were distressing her ...
hope this helps..
leisa
Good morning all for the second time. I say second time because through my own stupidity just lost a really really long post!!
Not sure I can really be bothered doing it all over so will try for a condensed version:
ellembee - our goal is to have Cam in bed by 7pm (give or take an hour). I don't wake him for a feed after that because the few times I have have been disastrous with more unsettled nigt than usual. Last night he slept from 8 until 4.30 and then up for brekky at 7.
jenko - i noticed the same thing with grobags on ebay. I got lucky with 3 0.5tog bags just after new year when probably everyone besides an expectant mum had better things to do with their time than watch ebay auctions.
mousebrown - u never know. The body suit over pants look may catch on! Too cute!
cate - a justified whinge. Dealing with car repairs and insurers is bad enough at the best of times.
breastfeeding - still doing it exclusively and hopefully can stay that way as I'm too lazy for formula. No major dramas but last night thought I may be on my way to first mastitis experience. Engorged right breast with red tender area below armpit and could feel painful hard lumpy bits if I pressed down on it? So had a hot shower and massaged, expressed 120ml for some relief although still fairly full and went to bed braless and used RHS for his 4.30 feed. Still a bit tender this morning but much better, going to try not to let it get too full and hopefully the expressing doesn't put it even further into overdrive and make the LHS feel ignored - the RHS has always been the super producer.
Believe it or not the original post was even longer...............
hi everyone, long time no post...I've been reading along but had a busy week and there's so much action on this thread!
Firstly I have to admit I've changed my mind on the play gym - Hamish does like it and it keeps him quietly contented which frees me up. I've had a few work things to do this week but nothing onerous and its good to keep my mind a little bit active on non-bub things.
I also found out a really good friend is 8 weeks pregnant after her first go at IVF which is really exciting. We had lunch yesterday and I was being the wise old mummy passing on my experiences! I find it amazing that when you ar pregnant everything is focussed on the birth and not on what comes after! Its crazy really, there are so many things everyone discusses here that we could have had more warning/ help etc. on. 4 weeks of ante natal classes on giving birth and none on actually looking after a baby!! crazy.
We had our first self-organised mother's (parents') group this week as well which was good but there's much better discussions on bub hub! Also started the excercise classes at the hospital and am feeling sore in the right places, especially that pelvic floor and lower abdominal which needs LOTS of work.
Perth ladies, I looked into the first aid course but decided to go with the one on Saturday morning where you just book in yourself as DH wants to come too. I can PM the details if anyone wants? We're going to organise a baby signing class for $20 each if anyone is interested in that too - it will be in East Freo. That reminds me, Cordelia you are a music teacher yes? Any hot tips for introducing music to bubs?
I've decided we have to stay home all day and let Hamish sleep properly. He's been an absolute angel during the day, going to sleep in his pram wherever we are - including for the whole of excercise class yesterday - yay! and 7 1/2 + 3 hours last night, 9 + 1.5 the night before.
:ecomcity: today. sorry no personals (again), I'm no good at remembering who said what...:hugs: for hels and those without their own mummies to fall back on. Mine lives 5 hours drive away too and is off to the UK for 3 weeks today - also Dad left the country for 4 weeks (separately) this week too so its just the in-laws! Luckily they are very easy going and supportive.
happy weekend, looking forward to easter break when DH will be home for 6 days! :wave:
kx
Hiya!
MouseBrown that was a very nice belly laugh about the superman tights look. Hope yr infection is all better! Wasn't laughing matter but imagining Billy looking for places to be recumbant with you Karrina out and about in AS!!Does conjure some funny images:)
oops shortest feed ever, must go,..
tired*mummy
30-03-2007, 12:06
Hi everyone,
Sierra slept 8 1/2 hours last night :smiliedance: It was great but i woke up twice to check on her. She has been really good. Smiling heaps and almost laughing but not quite there yet. She was a little grumpy yesterday but was really good when i went to my OB appointment and slept the whole time. My OB held her while he checked my scar and then gave her a cuddle and a kiss... it was quite cute. Never seen that side of him before lol. Anyway he said everything seems to be ok with me and tried to talk me out of DH getting a vasectomy.. saying he was too young. But i think it really is the best option.
DD1 & 2 are going to their Nanna's house tonight with 3 of their cousins for a sleep over so that will be good. Looking forward to the peace. I will probably catch up on some sleep while DH watche footy. The girls are staying there all day tomorrow too so i will be able to go do some shopping without having to take all of them, DH will be happy about that lol.
Hope everyone has a great weekend. Take care.
:wave:
Hi ladies - hope everyone is well.
Dh is still away at a union conference and I have been by my self since tuesday. Have had some freak out moments like when DS was eating rocks out of the garden and then when I found him and the dog playing on the grass where there was a dried dog poo (YUCK!!). Oh, and then during undies time (in the process of toilet training) he did number 2's in his undies and then sat in the dirt. I literally had to wash him down with the hose and to top it off, was on my way to the loo to 'deposit and flush' what was left in his undies and I DROPPED IT ON THE FLOOR!!!! LOL.
However Kelsey has been an angel and even put herself to bed last night and I got to watch Biggest Loser. Took the kids to a coffee shop this morning and they both behaved perfectly and I had my coffee in peace......felt like a really capable mum for once!!
hels - Lucky you with that great sleep in. Glad your 1st day alone was good.
Karrina - Sounds like your little (or should I say big) Billy is a bit like my Kelsey. She was 6.4kg a week ago and is also in 6-11kg nappies.
Take care....
Oh, just forgot...
Cat - You asked about a good doc? I go to the annandale medical centre. All of the docs are good there and although it can sometimes be hard to get an appointment, they always fit me in if the kids are sick.
I am having a brain fade.....
Cat - had to go back to read your post to remember what you asked. As for getting Kelsey weighed - I go to the Mater Hosp as this is where she was born and they do post natal clinics. However, there is a place on Thuringowa Drive - just looked it up in the phone book. It is a parenting clinic called IMPS and I have had DS weighed there before. Ph 47999000. They also do parenting classes, clinic, immunisations etc. They do sleep schools and day stays if you are having dramas (not that you are).
jacstar31
30-03-2007, 13:29
had a shocking night last night - reminded me of the early days and although would love to have another one - this has put me off again! Geoffrey went down at 6.30pm, I thought for at least 8 hrs....ha ha....he woke at 8pm, had a quick feed an d then woke again at 12.30am and then again at 5.00am and then again at 8.00am.....oh well, at least he just fed and went back to sleep, no crying and no other reasons to wake up, except for maybe it was very very windy and rainy here last night and the wind was howling...was feeling very grumpy this morning, but have gone out for a shop and coffee and now Geoffrey is sleeping peacefully, so feel much better!!
Just a quickie, am pooped today
I hear you jackstar! We felt like we were back to day1 at home the last 2 nights. I have no idea whats up, 3am semi - waking till 7am wake time and moaning and grizzling, nothing loud just restless enough to need cuddling/tapping back to sleep. Its like shes belly aching, but why last two nights same time start 3am??? weird
for the Perth ladies, Anyone heard/tried make believe photography? They were at the forum today but usually based subiaco markets.
$20 sitting fee includes 8x10 colour portrait.
Listed prices/packages seem great too, and there sample pictures looked awesome! Now dp has a job again will probably go w.e after easter get some done ( can buy a beautiful dress for it too ).
ahh zzz catch uptime i think
xxxx
freddie - Totally agree re birth classed focusing on pregnancy and birth. I said the same thing after DD was born. They should teach more about after the baby is born, would be more helpful, but I guess you have to live it to learn it huh?!
Oooh gotta go, K is hungry!
*Sparkles*
30-03-2007, 16:25
Sorry no personals today, Reece is stirring in his swing so I don't have long. We had another good day together. Reece had his needles today, he was really good and slept for most of it except when the needles went in and he screamed. I gave him some panadol before we went and he seems like his normal self but I am keeping him quiet at home today and tomorrow. He had 2 needles today and has 1 more next week.
Has anyone had their bubs hands and feet bronzed? I am going to book in to get them done soon before he gets too big. We will also get some professional photos done when he is around 3-4 months and can sit up better.
The weather is cold and rainy here in Melb today, I have even got the central heating on. Normally I would just rug up a bit but it's different with a bub now. Suppose our gas bills will go through the roof this winter! :rolleyes:
I'm geting so many smiles and gurgles now. Sometimes if DH is feeding him and I sit next to them R will look at me and give a big smile, then he stops sucking and won't take his bottle for a few minutes! It annoys the hell out of DH but I think it's great because he is acknowledging me and saying hello :kiss:
Hi
Tiredmummy - it's so great when the grandparents can take them for a night isn't it? I know it sounds awful but am looking forward to the day when bubs is old enough for a sleepover...... in about three years!! DS hasn't had one in a while - might be time :yes:
Flicka - how very yummy mummy of you to manage with two angels and a cup of coffee - out! Congrats!
Us - well not much happening DS driving me nuts with 100 questions an hour. I did ask him a couple of weeks ago why he asks so many questions all the time - his response "I am just learning about the world mummy" - priceless! I had no response to that statement - hmmmm! I ended up taking him into to town - we dumped the car and walked to the park and post office, he had a picnic lunch at the park and a play - but it was so windy and cold we came home earlier then planned - looks like its gunna be a cold windy winter here :thumbsdown:
Question: Lately bub has been having a servere reaction with the falling reflex - you know the reflex that they have like they are going to fall, the arms splayed out in jerky movement. Well she's doing that then holding her breath, face goes bright red and her body becomes completely ridgid and she screams and screams until I can calm her. It's as though she thinks I am going to drop her and she doesn't trust that I have her - she's very emotional about it, I have noticed her do it in her carseat also when driving on our bumpy dirt road but not as bad. She has never been dropped so not sure why the reaction. DS never did this and I thought the reflex would have worn off by now as she's 10wks old. Does anyone else's bubs still have this reflex and is it as severe as this?? I don't think it's normal? Help!
Anyway - better make a start on dinner :(
Forgot to add - does anyone have the recipe for the BF boosting cookies that were discussed earlier - was looking on BF thread but can't find them - thanks!
*Sparkles*
30-03-2007, 16:31
2cutekidz - Reece is 9 weeks old now and he still does that reflex action, usually when I lay him on his change table and sometimes when in the bath. But not as severe as what you described.,I would talk to your MHN about it. Hopefully she will grow out of it soon :fingerscrossed:
Back again..
Have to disagree about 'baby classes'..well I never really believed I was having a BABY that I would love/educate/feed for ever..have I missed anything:) I really think not pregnant to pregnant is as different as pregnant to motherhood. Whole other worlds. No way the joy or tenderness could be put across or figuring out wind/reflux/colic.. :confused: I reckon theres the whole other possibility that they're about to go through the hardest time in their 40wks and might not make it :crying: But yes AGREE wholeheartedly that 8wks of pre-natal..was compared to the main event of Parenthood just like a canape, not even an entree!
Bossofllatch, my goodness, does yr DH work during the day? Do you get enough sleep, amazing woman!!?
Flicka I usually say 'badly' when asked 'how work is going'.. When its completely on my own terms, ie can finish when I want, not urgent etc then its great..do it when he sleeps, when it is demanding it is impossible! My silly client is still silly..but I'm not jumping anymore when he barks.
Cate poor hon! About the whole car thing, gosh and yes yr right hard enough at the best of times, completely almost impossible with bub, car seat, pram stuck in boot. HUGS
How is Isabella going now Luvmytum?
Tabby + Jacstar sorry hear about yr nights! Might all be normal again tonight.
GORGEOUS abt smiles Hels. Yes still reflex action here too..H 11wks.
Somedays being a Mummy seems wonderful and ..well not exactly easy, but not hard! Today is one of those days. Had brekky with H, Present for sister on special, H slept while I printed, faxed made calls...then we got to my colleages for lunch on time and fed. Golly what a fluke. Home and happy now :smiliedance: Happiness to all, even in the middle of the night, well esp then !!
Strawberry_Shortcake
30-03-2007, 18:38
Hi Ladies,
2cutekidz – I have pm’d you with the recipe. The cookies are yummy.
Hels – I didn’t get Talon’s hands and feet bronzed but I did get a hand and feet sculpture from twinkle toes. Here what it looks like.
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s305/kelleigh75/DCP_3008.jpg
Cate – So sorry to hear about the car accident, so glad to hear you and bub r ok.
Us – Talon is a real angel. He’s sleeping really good and feeding well. Not much happening here this weekend. DH and I celebrating our wedding anniversary tomorrow and DH has his b’day tomorrow aswell. Better go and feed Talon before he falls asleep.
Take care
Kel
2cutekids ... that reflex is called the startle reflex and at mothers group the other day the CHN said it lasts til about 3 or 4 months and that's the reason we wrap babies so that they don't wake when they have one. it's common when they are tired. josh does it quite a bit when he's tired and sometimes looks a little distressed but rarely cries. He has cried/screamed a few times though. My main suggestion is to wrap her arms in tightly as much as possible and I agree that you should speak to your CHN about it - you can ring them for advice!
we've had a couple of rough days. on wednesday josh wouldn't sleep ... after such a good couple of weeks, it all went downhill. he would have little naps and wake up grumpy. i barely got a smile out of him the whole day and i was exhausted and just wanted to sleep, but it didn't happen. he slept overnight though (woke once) so that was good. then yesterday he slept for the 5 hours that i was out (fed in the middle but went almost straight back to sleep), but wouldn't sleep when we got home!! And of course I was exhausted by then! He did sleep from 11pm til 4am (when I got up to check on him, moved the dummy from under his cheek and in doing so woke him up - oops!). He then went back to sleep at 4:30 til 7:40am.
Then today he's been fantastic again ... feeding and sleeping like a normal baby. Mum & I went shopping today for winter clothes for him cause he's now about to fully move into 00's. We got him some really cute stuff. I bought him some little velcro sneakers yesterday and we got so many comments about them today as we wheeled him round the shops!
The big thing today was that we went out tonight and left Josh home with my mum. I've been expressing extra for days to make sure i had enough for a feed - I wasn't sure i'd get enough, but i ended up with 180ml so I was happy. AND THEN ... he fed at 4:40pm and was asleep when we left just after 6pm and now it's nearly 10pm and he's still asleep! Yep, all that expressing for nothing - he didn't want a feed while we were gone! Oh well, we had a great night at Gold Class seeing the new Mr Bean movie - it's really funny! We had gold class vouchers that expire tomorrow, I'm so proud of us that we finally worked out a time to go!
mmm ... sorry for the long post. should have a shower and get ready for bed, who knows josh might sleep for another few hours!
aries_moon
31-03-2007, 09:08
Happy Saturday Ladies!!
hope everyone has had an enjoyable start to the weekend. Am feeling pretty good as X went to bed at 6pm last nite, then 7 the nite before....so stoked about this!!
CHARIS: love the pic you put up, was great to catch up again, and how fun is that class?!?!? will def. be going every week. Oh ya, cookie/coffee is my shout then next time too!!
Tabby: that photo place you were talking about, is that the one that has all the cute dress up outfits like bugs and leaves etc;?? Would love to get pics of X like that
re: the startle reflex........seems like X constantly does this while he's falling asleep....he refuses to have his arms wrapped in so think he's just become used to it, poor guy, looks so annoying but he falls asleep eventually
can so relate on the issue of "baby classes", for me it was like i only conditioned myself for the birth then that would just be it or something. But ya my goodness, there is nothing as shocking to the system as being thrusted into parenthood!! I'm forever telling myself "YOU are the mum"! far out still not sunk in all this responsibilty etc; thinking long term scares me, so we're just taking each day by day. anyhoo blah blah blah but that plays on my mind more than anything.........
well dilemma of the day is trying to decide if i'm gonna lug x around the blues and roots festival today, have been looking forward to this for ages but not sure if it's fair to him to keep him outside until 11pm plus would have to feed there all evening etc; any input would be appreciated, must go tend to bubs now
take care all:wave:
morning,
Aries: not sure if it has the dress ups but will let you know. All I really noticed was the beautiful portrait photo of one right in front of me lol. But that said the name make believe would say yes?
anyhow will let you know or if you want the number to ring and ask because their prices were even in our range yet beautifully done.
ah yay for X sleeping earlier for you!
out for the eve/night:, youll be surprised Im sure, how resilient they are and he will probably enjoy it( or sleep through it all lol ) The pram for sleeping and also a mossie net and im sure youll be fine as.
Also maybe a sling if you have one for when hes sick of sitting / laying pram? If no sling you can borrow ours if you like, just let me know msn if want
mim: hope Josh is back to normal routine again.
strawberry: happy anniversary!!!! Hope you have a great day.
Charis: :wave: ! Sounds like H was an angel yesterday! Heres to lots lots more of the "easier" days :D
Hels: :hugs: for needles yesterday!
lol Katie is doing the same, stops to smile mid bottle! Its adorable isnt it, Sometimes I watch tv while feeding and I look down and shes staring at me so intently then breaks out the big grin as if to say "yes your my mum and I love you" .
Katie was better last night, only stirred a few times after 3am and dummy back in and off sleep again. wonder what it is with waking same time all of a sudden? No grunt and groans this time just stirring and moaning.
I have this huge addiction to winneh the pooh and k's room is adorned with it. MIL said last night she was buying battery operated tigger for easter for her! OMG think ill have more fun than K I got so excited hahahha. am such a big kid sometimes lol
Well alls well here, K is alseep, an hr and bit so far. improvement on the last few days ( bad nights also had bad nap days but still happy as). She also seems be more sicky again regardless thickener since restless...Not as bad but not as good as start.
man babies are so confusing!!!! Just when you think youve got it right.....
told MIL how I wanted another too, mmmm nothing like having the mother on your side for convincing power haha ;)
Hope all slept well and have a GREAT weekend all
xx
*Sparkles*
31-03-2007, 10:22
We got through the night as normal although R was a bit sickie due to the panadol. I'm not giving him anymore panadol now as he seems fine after his needles.
I actually managed to do some bookwork yesterday which has fallen way behind. I'm hoping to catch up with it all soon, I can't believe the next BAS is almost due again. I told DH that I want some time at the weekends to do my work because I really don't want to put R into daycare just yet. DH has agreed to look after R more at the weekends but we will go out on one of the days as a family. So today I am working at home and tomorrow we are going to the flower and garden show in the city :D
Next weekend is Easter so we should be able to catch up on lots of things over the 4 days. The gardens have never been so over grown!! It does annoy me when the place is a mess, but at the same time I feel it's more important to spent time with R as he's growing up so fast. I'd rather take him out and do things rather than staying at home cleaning. If only I could afford to have a cleaner and a gardener :laughing:
Anyway, enough :ecomcity: from me. Have a great weekend everyone.
Hi everyone
2cutekidz - kelsey also has that startle reflex. She does it heaps in the car like you mentioned and it is annoying as we live on a bumpy dirt road but from memory they do grow out of it pretty soon (did Mim say 3-4 months??).
Tabby - I know you said Katie had a belly ache a couple of mornings ago but you also mentioned it was getting colder. I wonder if she is cold at 3am which is causing her to wake????
Aries moon - I agree with Tabby. Take X to the festival and have a good time. I mean, you can always come home if you need to.
Hels - I hear you about a messy garden. I really need to do some weeding but I totally agree that you just have to put those things aside for a while and give as much as you can to the kids. Hope you catch up on your work soon.
Mim - Good on you for going out. I haven't been to the movies in ages. Used to go to the 'spit the dummy' session with DS but it might be a bit harder with 2 kids....
We've had a great day today and I even got some housework done. It is funny how some days with babies/kids can go so perfectly and you feel on top of the world but then the next day feels like a disaster.....the joys of motherhood.
Happy sleeps to all....
Why does no-one tell you the obvious solution? Have been wondering why M will only take 60-80mls of EBM at night feed before going down for 6hrs. We have been getting up consistently at 4am. Well last night put faster flow teat on bottle and WOW!!! 150mls later (even if it was a bit messy) and M didn't stir till 5:45am. HOORAY!!! I also double wrapped last night, muslin on the inside with a sturdier flannelette on the outside so there was no Mr Houdini last night either. The combo is probably what did it, will do exactly the same tonight and cross fingers!
Hels, I'm with you, would rather treasure special experiences with bubs at the moment then keep up with all but the most necessary housework. I only do a full-on clean when expecting visitors (that does not mean close friends who understand, just visitors who I want to impress and pretend to be super mummy)
Aries, enjoy your night out!
Strawberry, Happy Anniverasary!
Tabby, I have a stuffed animal addiction, it started with Ben and is now continuing. We have everything from a fruit bat, crocodile, walrus, elephant, you name it I just well may have it!
Sammy: yay for the big sleep, happy to hear you worked out why. :fingerscrossed: it continues.
pity w-the pooh is so damn expensive though lol. I wanted the bed doona, SO expensive! Maybe later. oh and curtains. ah the list goes on.
Your stuffed toys sound wonderful!
Flicka: You may be right re: colder nights. Hard to work it though when shes quite warm from two wraps and jammies/suit when first in bed 730ish so will try tonight if happens again and 3 am wake will add another blanket. :fingerscrossed: your right:D
Hels: Same here, garden and house a mess but prefer to spend free time with Katie and the family. Feel I dont want to miss a thing!
Shes sleeping like her usual self today and not so sicky again.. I didnt change way I feed or amounts/temp..No idea why yesterday she was so sicky again. anyhow seems ok today.
Had a share of my diet chocolate mouse today with K ( barely a taste lol ) She loved it! Should have seen the lip smacking :laughing:
*Sparkles*
31-03-2007, 17:36
Had a share of my diet chocolate mouse today with K ( barely a taste lol ) She loved it! Should have seen the lip smacking
:laughing: that's so cute! I can't wait until we can start them on the yogurts and ice creams etc lol.
We just walked down to the new Coles, DH wasn't impressed as he was loaden down with bags of food on the way home and it's all uphill coming back! The good thing is that when we walk down we are restricted to how much we can carry home, so it stops us from buying all the unnecessary things. We got a week's worth of food for just under $100 :thumbsup:
:wave: Everyone
Great Sat today, beautiful weather here.
Tabby - great that bub is on the up and up
Hels - thanks for a good laugh, I was picturing you walking along with pram and poor DH walking behind, strain on his face and loaded up with all the shopping bags - up hill!:laughing:
Aries Moon - I say go for the festival, bub will love the music and all the excitment will probably wear him out that he will have a big sleep for you!
Flicka - I agree with you! Good days and bad
I think Billy may be teething? Really runny poos, temp, crying and biting fingers. Not sure but he hasn't been himself, he even chucked up! :barf: (Not like him)
Good weekend to you all. My brother goes back to the Gold Coast tomorrow, it has been a bit of a strain for the last week as he has cerebral palsy and mild intellectual disability - he walks with a cane but is SO slow. He just loves Billy to bits and he has had a great time - but I am definately ready for a REST:smiliedance:
karrina ... are you sure it's not gastro that billy has? i read that bubs don't get temps with teething and lots of stuff is called teething but it isn't. if he doesn't get better take him to the doctor.
Thanks Mim - I will see how he is tomorrow, and pop into the health clinic.
My milk supply is a bit out of control, I am sick of feeding Billy in bed and ending up with wet patches :no:
Last night he pooed in the bed when I took his nappy off, I was too lazy to get up and change the bed (king size mind you!) so I just put a baby blanket on top (after getting off what I could). Just too god damn tired these days to fuss.
Housework? what housework? No time to do these floors but generally I keep on top of toilet and bathroom as well as dishes, I find it a real struggle getting ALL the washing done for 4. It really is a sore spot as I hate washing with a vengance, oh well no end in sight.
I had my meeting with boss on Monday about my return to work. He agreed with my plan to work 18 hours, 8 at work (kids will go in childcare one day per week) and then the other 10 hours at home on a project. So I guess I am happy with that ;) I just worry how I am going to juggle it all as I am a bit of a perfectionist with work and really get into it if you know what I mean. I work at Charles Darwin Uni in Alice - so it is great that they have been flexible with my work arrangements. I guess I can always change things if it isn't working :confused:
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