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Dammit.. I wrote out a friggin' huge post and then the whole lot got wiped...
Firstly, I must have missed the part about going back to work. It is my intention to start picking up some weekend night shifts at my old hospital from May onwards. If for some reason there isn't enough work to give me money (highly unlikely), then I'll have to return to work early at the hospital I'm currently working at.
I know this is old hat for most of you b/f ladies out there 'cause you all seem to be doing/have done it, but i'm hoping to start expressing over the next few days. Went through how to sterilise / pump with my SIL yesterday (she's given me all her avent stuff). I'm quite excited!
Good luck with expressing... I used to find it completely fascinating watching the milk squirt out of my nipple.. but then again, I am way too easily entertained *LOL*. At least expressing some feeds will give you a bit of a break every now and then :)
Does anybody else get blown away by how far we've come??? Today as l was reading the most recent posts l was thinking two months ago we were all talking about our pregnancy symptoms and here we are discussing settling, dummies, breastfeeding, complications etc. the change in the conversation, the issues etc is just mind blowing! Just want to say CONGRATULATIONS everybody, we made it!!! And we all have beautiful little babies to love and cherish for the rest of our lives - and (hopefully) a community here to help support us!
I know exactly what you mean. Just this morning I was going through my private messages here on BubHub and I found a message from tara21 congratulating me on getting my BFP the day before !! (she had got hers that day). The message was dated June 8th... It just blows me away to think that we have gone from peeing on a stick all those months ago to actually going through the process of giving birth to these tiny little people. Job well done girls !!
I hope your sore throat gets better soon Sandy.. I think DF is coming down with the flu, so I pray that he doesn't pass it on to me or Kaelan... particuarly as we're meant to be flying in a few weeks.
icugal- Glad to hear that your u/s went well, It must have been quite a shock for you to have so much blood, but great to hear it is all cleared up! Sorry to hear your lil' man was unsettled during the u/s, babies- gotta love em! Thats just what Lillyana did to me when i went for an u/s about a week ago in re to some internal difficulties im having from my ceasar and obstructed birth...i think she might have gotten the sonographer all worked up with her screaming cuz she looked glad to get rid of us at the end LOL
I hope that your own health issues have resolved/are under control. Sounds like our babies are psychically connected *LOL*
Does anyone give thee boob or bottle to try and settle?
90% of the time, Kaelan is so sleepy after a bottle that I put him straight to sleep... is that wrong?
icugal- sorry i might have the wrong gal- was it you that got shots done? isnt that the 8 week ones?
Yes. Our council does the immunisations every month... so we either had to get his needles when he was six weeks or when he was ten weeks. The MCHN insisted that babies are better off having the needles earlier rather than later... As it is, he only just scraped in because he had to a minimum of six weeks of age to get the needles... and he was EXACTLY six weeks old that day.
Once again, I'm expecting my mother to arrive from Wodonga at any tick of the clock... she's now insisting that she come down and stay with me fortnightly :eek: (I knew I shouldn't have moved to Craigieburn... too bloody convenient for her to travel on the Hume Freeway to get here !!). She's completely paranoid about Kaelan knowing who his grandmother is... I may just go a little mad !! ;)
I hear a baby crying, so I'd better go... have a nice day :)
NoMoreScuba
15-03-2007, 12:17
Hi everyone :wave:
sarah- aka baby whisperer- how did it go last night? i hope you didnt get another 4 hours of screaming! ive had 3 before this one and it still gets to me!
Yes, my_lot, no 4 hour screaming session last night. He went down for an early evening sleep really easily. Not so easy to settle at 9pm. DF ended up doing the knuckle in mouth trick again, but we were both in bed asleep by 10.30 so not too bad. And then he slept through until 3.15.
He generally seems much easier to settle now i'm pleased to say, so i'm feeling a lot better about myself. In fact i'd go so far as to say i'm happy :yelclap: :smiliedance:
my_lot, I can't believe all the things people are telling you. I'd lose my mind. Well done for not blowing your top!
sass - excuse my ignorance, but what is the rotovirus vaccine?
juzzy - i wouldn't feel at all obliged to hand out personal details about my birth, especially to an ex of my DF's
re: work - i have no plans to go back at the moment. Most likely i'll try and stay off until after we've had #2, as long as DF's job is going ok (i was a contractor so i don't have a job to go back to).
harleyq - absolutely i am blown away by how far we've come. not even looking back as far as pregnancy, but even just in the last 2 weeks or so...
gotta go, baby crying.
have a lovely day!
Hi girls
sorry its taken so long to post i go off line for 3 or so days and it takes another three to catch up and by the end i have forgoten what personals i wanted to do LOL.
RE; routines marissa has got herself into a little routine
wake for a bottle between 5 and 6am back to sleep till 8ish then have to take ds to school and she goes back to sleep till her next bottle around 10-11am time then she stays awake for play time and tummy time for 2 hours and when she starts geting tied i put on a lullaby cd and give her cuddles till asleep but she has an unsetted time for a while. then up again at 2;30 to get ds then back for a bottle and sleep then up at 6:30 for a bath bottle and then she is unsettled till 10ish when she has her last feed and then bed. Some times she want that 2 am feed:rolleyes: and then sleep.
FF bubbys how much do they have and how often Bub is on 100-125mls every 4 hours.
Re work i will be going back in 2 weeks at night 3 times a week.
We have also decided to ttc#3 in september as we are getting married in august. I wanted to wait till bub was 2 but DP said he doesent want kids after 30. I don't no why but i told him if i have another so soon then he has to get the snip While im pregnent.
I will try and keep up with the thread now :fingerscrossed:
have a lovley day. By to way ZIGGY i loooove ur aviater what a flexable bubba lol.
JoJoMart
15-03-2007, 13:50
Hi everyone :wave:
I just got back from my 2 week check up with Liam at the Maternal & Child Health Centre. He's really good weight wise and everything but we discussed the whole 'breast feeding' issue I am having. Basically the nurse said to give the whole BF, formula top up then express system a miss as it's totally draining me of energy. The BF clinic advised me to do this every 4 hours (or when Liam wakes for a feed) & do all three things in a row. It takes friggin ages.
The MCHN advised instead to try and breast feed during the day (with no expressing) to give myself a break from expressing then at night I can give the bottle if I don't feel I have enough milk. I then go back next Thursday for a weigh in to see how Liam is doing and if my BF milk is sustaining him. I hope this works because I've all but given up on BF Liam which isn't what I want but it's been so bloody hard.
Re: returning to work. I am taking a year off so I don't go back until January 2008. I would love an alternative though like working from home but haven't worked that one out yet.
Re: routines. My routine has gone pear shaped. I've had so much advice regarding BF and FF Liam that things have been a bit hectic. Originally when I was mainly FF him he was quite settled and I had him feeding 3/4 hourly. Now because I've been so stressed doing the FF, breast feeding & expressing every few hours it's all gone haywire.
icugal - I don't think there's anything wrong with giving the breast or bottle to settle the bub. I just wondered as the dummy, rocking, soothing music etc doesn't always work for me whereas a good fee does!
By the way my MCHN said giving a dummy to help baby off to sleep is fine so I'm going to do that because Liam loves sucking for comfort.
Harleyq - yes it sure is amazing how far we've all come.......we are all mums now which is such a surreal thing when I think about it.
My_lot - I agree with you about people always giving their opinions on feeding, settling etc. Remember you know your baby best. I've had all sorts of advice about BF and FF the pros & cons etc. It's literally driven me mad at times.
Hels - your MIL sounds like a pain in the butt. Glad to hear you aren't taking it too personally or anything & are going to ignore her comments.
Well, must go.......Liam should have woken for a feed by now it's been 4 hours..
6 weeks old today!
and i already did 5 situps!! LOL.
I too am totally in awe of all you wonderful women. i value your advice and reading your posts is the first thing i do if i get personal time.
Thanks for all your support and advice. i dont know what i would do without you. :hugs:
Ziggy.. you have got to post a bigger version of that photo in your Avatar.. that is so gorgeous !!! I'm curious to see it in greater detail...
hi again,
2nd post today im going well!
my dear friend came over this morning and took my kids to school and took my 4yr old home to play with her two boys. i fed bb then went to bed for an hour and half sleep. woke up fed and changed him ate lunch while he sat in his rocker then went back to bed for another hours sleep. dp picked the kids up and dropped them at home then went straight back to work- they woke me and the baby the minute they walked in the door....smacking the **** out of each other over the tv remote! back to reality for me! really they can watch ABC2 or ABC2 so does it really matter who holds the remote!
but i feel 100% better and bb has had 2 good sleeps and stayed in our routine (oh thats a funny word) but hes had no car trips today to disturb his sleep so maybe he wont be over tired tonight....
i do sleep feed play sleep (and change the bum 20 times too!)
as soon as he shows the tired signs during his play time i wrap him and put him in his bed.
i rock and do "shhh" and then always cave in when he screams like a maniac! but within a min of me holding him he is calm and most times if i put him down like this he will go to sleep with a little patting...
ref to my last post on feeding-
roopee- f/f do cop sh!t.
ive seen it within my own family...
and its out there alot in the public because of the "breast is best" message thats shoved down a womans throat from the day of conception
but it is amzing how people comment on both isnt it.
when i was f/f and b/f dd1 i got "why dont you just b/f" (well jeez id have loved to did they really think doing both was fun?) or "why not just give her bottles all the time"
when dd2 was a baby i fully b/f for 6months and she was a chubba (the kid was 6lb and prem!!) and i got "are you FULLY breastfeeding- oh my god" or "shes this big and your not using formula" comments
with ds (2 months prem & fully b/f) i got "hes so little maybe you should give him formula to fatten him up" and i got this alot- "oh hes so little are you sure hes getting enough from you"
i just cant win!
as you know im now onto my 4th happy chucker. my own mother gave this one formula when i had expresso in the freezer. i asked her to use the EBM first and i would come home to feed him if i really had to...that the sachet was for emergency only. she gave him the formula so "he would sleep" and "to see if it would help his reflux" (she thinks its the b/f that makes him chuck up) and "to see if he was allergic to cows milk formula like the others" go figure!
some people sit on their brains!
ziggy- whoo hoo 6 weeks
icugal- ours is the same here with the monthly shots but i think ours will be the week after he is 2 months. maybe our local gp might do them. either way dp is taking him. i dont do jabs.
leashie- welcome back to bubhub land...so your doing school runs too. looks like im not the only one not able to sleep during the day..everyday. im a zombie by 2pm and theres nothing i can do about it...are you in the same boat?
lmenz- thanks for the link. ill buy one online later tonight . im going to try the washing machine one that hells talked about only i have to go to target to get it.
oh well todays late night shopping i suppose ill have to send dp out with all the kids to get it! :laughing:
i might just get the pusher out of my boot ready for him!
oh and ill have to fetch the other carseat for him to put in his car....
yes im liking that cd a whole lot more right now...dp hast been out with all the kids since the baby was born..come to think of it he hasnt even been out with the car and the baby at all...hes done one trip to the corner shops with the pusher...
might even have a drink tonight to celebrate my peace and quiet.
:wave:
*Sparkles*
15-03-2007, 18:21
I will refer to my "baby bible" again :laughing:
It says it's ok to settle a BF baby with boobie at any time of the day, no matter how long since the last feed.
It is not advisable to do this with a FF baby who need to be on a more strict feeding routine (say every 3-4 hours). It is possible to over-feed a FF baby but not a BF one. Hope this helps.
Leashie - Reece is almost 7 weeks old and he has 150mls of formula each feed, and takes it approx every 4 hours. He started off on 90mls and I increased it when he was finishing his bottles fully or looking for more. On average we increased about every 2 weeks but he has been on 150mls for a while now.
I have sorted things out with MIL as my DH rang her yesterday to say we were not impressed with her comments and behaviour last weekend. She then rang me today to appologise and promised not to make any more comments or suggestions. So things are all sorted now :thumbsup:
Re work - I am going to put Reece into daycare 1 day a week starting from 10 weeks of age so I can do my work from home. I run 2 businesses and there is too much work to try and do it in between feeds and sleeps etc. It will also give me some time to myself and as Reece gets older he will benefit from being around other children.
Sorry I forgot who asked me, but I do have the Sounds of Silence CD and it's good. Although sometimes he just lies wide awake in his bed just listening to it lol. I find that his Fisher Price lullaby CD is better as putting him to sleep.
*Sparkles*
15-03-2007, 18:42
Forgot to say... re the coffee get-together for the Melb ladies. Does anyone want to put their hand up to have it at their house? Maybe someone who can't drive yet? I was thinking one arvo sometime during the week of 26/3 to 30/3?
So far I have LMenz, Juzzy, Icugal and 1st time mum (and myself) interested, is there anyone else?
in regards to the coffee meet up for the melb ladies... ill put my hand up.. i cnt drive for a few weeks yet... only thing.. i live near frankston... so on second thought maybe not...
im tired... nite ladies!
EskimoMumma
15-03-2007, 21:20
Juzzy- im only around the corner,...(kinda)
If you ladies dont mind quiet ol me Id like to join you :o
Forgot to say... re the coffee get-together for the Melb ladies. Does anyone want to put their hand up to have it at their house? Maybe someone who can't drive yet? I was thinking one arvo sometime during the week of 26/3 to 30/3?
So far I have LMenz, Juzzy, Icugal and 1st time mum (and myself) interested, is there anyone else?
Sounds great :thumbsup: I'm so looking forward to meeting everyone......
EskimoMumma - Be great to see you there
*Sparkles*
16-03-2007, 08:32
Juzzy - Frankston is fine for me as I live near Cranbourne. We'll see what the other's think before deciding for sure, would be good if there was someone central? Or we could always do 2 meets at different houses a week apart so everyone gets included :D
I'll hold one at my place next time, but want to wait until my parents have gone home first.
EskimoMumma - Would be great for you to join us :thumbsup:
I'll message everyone with the details when it's been decided. PM me if anyone has any questions.
Butterflymumma
16-03-2007, 10:02
Sassi- That is great to hear that your bubba boy is putting on weight and how exciting about your fit boxing class, i hope you have fun!
juzzy- I wouldn't give away any personal information to your Dp's Ex, She has no right to know and if makes you uncomfy for her asking you should let her know. Dont let her intimidate you in anyway. Just say "thanks for your interest in Cassidy's birth etc, but that stuff is personal, i know you'll understand why i dont want to discuss it" I'd Block her if she wont listen LOL
1st time Mum in Melb- I give the boob to try and settle, but now that i think Lillyana has reflux i know i shouldnt do that any more. I've read that in most cases if nothing else will settle a baby and the boob does then the baby was probably hungry anyway- nothing will settle a baby who is hungry, not even a dummy- so do whats best for you hun, your doing a fantastic job! :thumbsup:
my_lot- Sorry to hear about everyone thinking they are an expert on your baby or giving you annoying advice, You know whats best so just hang in there- :hugs: Your idea for a dress sounds great! And the beach! how romantic, thats where i'd eventually like to get married LOL when i find the guy who will marry me :laughing: I hope you can twist your DF's arm and get your lil one into that suit, it sounds so cute!!
Ziggy- firstly congrats on Lily being 6 weeks old! and second THANK-YOU for the great advice, i read that post you put up and that was also helpful. I really need to get in a see a doc soon, but i must admit my GP's arent the best, they never take you seriously, you'd have to be dying before they sit up and listen! But i'll give it a try. I'm expressing my milk from the left side and sometimes from the right so how does that work with the rule to only feed from one boob and every 3 hours? I express and express and try to get all that fatty milk into the bottle but im just not sure if i am getting enough. I know i get about 100mls of the sugary/watery milk and then maybe 20-40 mls of the whitish looking milk-is that the fats? I thought i was doing so well today as i have got into the habit of putting Lillyana into the bouncer ( I dont bounce it) to sit her up right for 30mins after a feed- but when i went to check on her she and the bouncer were covered in vomit from head to foot...I felt so bad, the poor little girl. I find it really hard to b/f her sitting up how do you do it?? No matter what i do i cant seem to get into a rountine- I hate the sound of her crying (every mum does) and she has started to cry really badly at about the 2 hour mark sinse a feed, her tummy is huge but she is rooting and sticking her tongue out like she is hungry...ahh its all too hard!
icugal- ha ha i laughed about your comment on being fascinated by the milk squirting out of your nipple, thats because i do that too!!! Sometimes i cant believe how many little sprays come out ha ha. My health issues are getting under control, thanks for asking. and lets pray if our bubbas are psychically connected that they agree to give mum a break!! just a question- how did Kaelan go with the immunisation?? any reactions? And Goodluck with your mums visit!
NoMoreScuba- Its lovely to hear you are so happy- good on you girl!!
me- lillyana will be one month old tommorrow, i cant believe how fast time has gone, i just hope she gets better, she seems so unhappy sometimes! I cant wait to drive again, im looking forward to getting out of the house on my own...gotta go bubs is due for a feed!!
love to all xx
butterflymumma - I hope your bubs starts feeling better soon. I know it must be so frustrating but I really hope you realise it is not your fault, you are a great mum and are doing everything you can to make her feel better. congrats on your baby being 1 month old - scary isnt it!!
mylot - so glad you had a chance to catch up on sleep i reckon it makes a massive difference to how i cope. I dont know you do it with your lot! I think your amazing.
i agree with you that whether you ff or bf there is a lot of stigma attached to both and you cop flak either way. I am trying to bf and am getting comments on the quantity/quality of my milk what im eating or drinking etc when bubs is unsettled, even my DF encourages me to give her formula occasioanlly as he thinks she is more settled on that. And I know if/when I ff I will get comments on that too....its so frustrating! why do ppl feel the need to judge your parenting decisions!!
Ok a bit of a whinge.....the last 3 days my gorgeous little girl has been a nightmare during the day. just wont settle, wont sleep, its taking me up to 3 hours at a time to get her to sleep (i try rocking, swaying, ":shh", feeding, wrapping, putting her down awake, picking her up when she cries to calm her, i even let her cry for about 5 mins then felt like an awful mother!!! out of about 8 hours during the day she has slept maybe an hour and a half. She has pretty much cried the rest of the time so I know she needs the sleep. DF gets home in the afternoon, is really happy to see us for an hour or so. By this stage I am REALLY frustrated, tired, cranky and running out of patience after dealing with a crying baby all day so I have said to him I need a rest and a break, you look after her this evening. After about 30-60 mins of crying he gets really fed up, starts stressing and swearing and getting angry at her and saying shes spoiled, which just stresses me out even more and I end up taking over as he is just working her up.
GRRR!!!! I feel so drained and like I have nothing left and him getting frustrated and angry just makes me more stressed!
I had a chat to him about it last night and tried to say shes just a baby, shes not bad, or evil, or spoiled, shes just figuring life out and yes she is a bit more challenging than we expected and does cry more than we thought but we just have to deal with it. He had a bit more patience after and I think he felt a bit guilty that so hopefully it improves.
Hope evryone has a great day :)
JoJoMart
16-03-2007, 10:41
Shelby - I have the same problem. Liam takes at least one hour (try 2 hours just this morning) to get him to settle & he's just stirred again. It drives me crazy too. My hubby had 'settling duty' last night with Liam and he reckons it took a whole hour of rocking to get him to sleep.......that was after Liam being awake for 5 hours straight! It's so frustrating when you try EVERYTHING and nothing seems to work.
Tell your hubby that you can't spoil a newborn. It's impossible they don't understand how to manipulate their parents yet and they need to be responded too when crying etc. If he gets frustrated (mine does too) it just makes it worse so he has to stay calm. It's a bloody nightmare I know! My husband wants me to keep Liam awake more during the day so he will settle at night but I reckon Liam will just end up being a grumble bum by the end of the day :no:
Hels - thanks for your tips on settling a baby with BF. Glad to hear I can't overfeed him with BF (I don't have a lot of milk anyway) and I'm FF him at night but he's usually off to sleep then anyway. FF seems to help settle him more than BF does.
Melb coffee meet up - I'm happy to drive to your place Juzzy if you're near Frankston. Not sure how this suits everyone else?
Morning girls how is every one i hope u are all well.
MYLOT yes i no exactly how you feel around 2pm all i want is an hours sleep but it never happens. I to got a sleep in yesterday morning with bub cause my sister took him to school and picked him up and from 10 last night bub has been great so im feeling really good today.
I can't remember who asked about where iamsteph is but i've been wondering the same thing i have pm'ed her and i just checked her profile and she hasn't been on since the 26th of feb.:eek: How can she go that long without the hub. I hope that every thing is ok.
Hels I'm glad you have sorted things out.
Butterflymumma I no how u feel about time flying marissa is 6 weeks on monday and has her needles in 2 weeks but it only feels like yesterday i brought her home she is growing to fast she is in OOO now and i feel like i'm going to miss something.
Well i went my best mates lil' boys 1st bday on saturday and after every one left we had a few drinks (leashie had a few to many) and when we got home i asked DF if he would be right with the kids so me and me besty could go to the local pub and he said yes.
So we got there an happy hour and i was sculling the drinks as they where only little cups but wasn't feeling very ****y.
Come middnight i thought i should go home and walked out side and nearl feel over i was that ****ed i got home and crawled up the stairs and went straight to bed. Well i woke up at 7:30 to bub crying and got up to get her a bottle and stumbled to the kitchen stumbled back ( yes i was still ****ed :shame: bad mummy)giving her bottle and all was good till i sat her up to burp and got spewed on, well DF woke up real quick and i had my head in the toilet all morning:barf: So i am NEVER drinking again I also started smoking and now i have been having bout 3 a day i feel really bad but i had a great night my B/F and i hadn't been out in about 2 yrs so it was great.
Anyway of to feed my little angel that is SCREAMING her tinny lungs out.
Have a good day ladies.
Hi Ladies :wave:
Shelby - I understand what your saying 100%...Jack is a terror to settle sometimes but I know it's because he's overtired. I find if I can work out when he's starting to get tired and put him down and shhh a lot I can (normally) get him to sleep. For him it's generally after being up for 1- 1/2 hours (including feeding) Just try and be really persistant....your doing a great job!!
My DH is very similar....he gets really frustrated when Jack won't do what he want's. I wonder what it is about men?? Weird...they just can't seem to handle it. My DH admitted to me the other night he never expected it to be this hard.
Sassi - The MCHN spoke to me about the rotovirus vacinne today and she advised us to get it....I will speak to my doctor about it more but she said it's terrible for kids if they catch it and they can normally end up in hospital. Hope your starting to feel better......your blood pressure must drive you nuts.
Butterflymumma - When you said Lily cries about two hours after a feed does she do a poo around then too? I've just discovered that Jack is similar and it's because he's got a bit of a tummy ache...If he does a poo, fart or burp he normallly stops. Just a thought as it sounds like you have heaps of milk :)
Me - Jack had his 4 week check up today...and he's doing so well. He's put on over 1 kg since his birth (porky pig) so he's now about 10lb 5oz. She was really happy with his posture and said he holds his head so well when he's on his tummy...I was really proud of him :D
Our main issue at the moment is still feeding....turns out I have sooo much milk he's actually getting a tummy ache from overeatting. I feel a bit bad cos I was so paraniod about making sure he was gaining weight he was probably getting too much. I think it will improve as my milk adjusts...no more expressing for me as it just make me produce more. Anyway he's doing all the things that a baby of his age should be so I'm rapt
Hard to believe it's already been a month......
Hey guys
i have got a massive headache today so ill try not to go on too long
Cassidy is one month old today!! Cant believe how quickly that time has gone! Kinda scary!
We went to the CHN yesterday and Cassidy is doing really well, growing and developing pretty well. The nurse was impressed with her. She now weighs 4.1 kilos (9lbs). And is still feeding like a trooper!
The nurse told me that i need to keep an eye out for oral thrush as i had been taking antibiotics for mastitis. Apparently it is more common after finishing a course of antibiotics, even more so since i had thrush while i was pregnant. And also that the thrush virus is airborne!! i had no idea!
In regards to settling, DP tends to be able to settle Cassidy better than i can. I think she sees me as food more than anything else. Infact after me feeding her last night i let DP settle her while i went to bed.
ok ill be back later bubba has just woken up.... snack time!!
Purplebird
16-03-2007, 13:44
Hiya,
Hopping over here from the mums in Melbourne thread. If theres any meet up - me too please!! Do I sound desperate?! Well i am :yes: I think I'm going insane, lol. I just wnat to spend some time with other mums who are breastfeeding (or even ffeeding) without feeling judged. I'm too scared to feed in public yet so I have to time my outings. Eloise still feeds two hourly for nearly an hour - yes she's a chubba bubba, lol, but it means I can't do anything.
I'm soo pleased to read that others are having settling problems (sorry for you though!). I thought it was just me that spent hours shushing and patting. As for babies needing 15 hours a day of sleep - well can someone find a way to tell my lo? She thinks sleep is for the weak!
On the positive side she is absolutely divine and gorgeous and I'm enjoying feeding her - thank goodness! What an absolute shock this motherhood thing is. Oh and I still wee when I cough, will I ever get my pelvic floor muscles back? - lol, now noone will ever wnat to meet me - I'm a demented incontinent woman!!
I would love to meet up if thats OK - I am in Cheltenham,
Take care lovely ladies,
Hannah
1st time mum in m sorry - you're right about the car seat (d'oh!). I only have one unfortunately. I hope your recovery is going well.
Afternoon ladies..
I just took advantage of my mother being here and went shopping by myself.. omg, how good was it to be back in my car with my clubby/techno music playing full pelt. My car was literally bouncing along the road by itself because of the bass.. god, I love my car stereo !!
I ended up going to Big W because I wanted to try to find some cheap warm clothes to take over to the UK. Much to my horror, I discovered that I am lucky to fit into a size 18 :eek: ... so I was forced to buy clothes from the very limited 'big girl' range.. how goddamn depressing !! If there is one thing to motivate me to lose weight now, it's trying on clothes. What's more depressing is knowing what skinny minnies the rest of you are !!
Anyways, I pretty much bought anything I could find to fit me.. which wasn't alot (I almost bought maternity pants out of desperation) so I'm going to look bloody horrendous when I meet most of DF's family in England. Why can't I be naturally blessed with a fast metabolism... *sigh*
I also had a quick look in the baby section while I was there, and bought Kaelan some cute little overalls... but then I felt like an imposter in the baby section without an actual baby with me, so I left again !! *LOL*
icugal- ours is the same here with the monthly shots but i think ours will be the week after he is 2 months. maybe our local gp might do them. either way dp is taking him. i dont do jabs.
I don't blame you for not wanting to take the kids to the immunisations... I was nearly in tears listening to all the little ones scream/cry as they got jabbed... and I'm a nurse for gods sake !!! I give needles for a living :D
Forgot to say... re the coffee get-together for the Melb ladies. Does anyone want to put their hand up to have it at their house? Maybe someone who can't drive yet? I was thinking one arvo sometime during the week of 26/3 to 30/3?
So far I have LMenz, Juzzy, Icugal and 1st time mum (and myself) interested, is there anyone else?
I'm not too fussed where we have it... I'm happy to drive because it is the one time when I know Kaelan will sleep !!
I would have offered my place but I'm outer northern suburbs (Craigieburn).. plus because we're in a new estate.. you have to have a brand new Melways to find me.. which has been an issue with our friends/family and delivery people in the past. I'll be happy to offer in the future, but in the meantime, I'll drive to Frankston... have GPS, will travel.
how did Kaelan go with the immunisation?? any reactions? And Goodluck with your mums visit!
He went fine with immunisations. He screamed a little at first as you'd expect, but settled fairly quickly. A few hours later he was really unhappy and was hard to settle (which is when I was at the hospital having my scan - oh joy !!).. and I think he was developing a bit of a temp too, so I gave him some kiddies Panadol (which can be used from 1 month old) and it worked a treat.
Panadol = good ;)
(BTW, my mother just left to go home again.... thank the lord !!)
Ok a bit of a whinge.....the last 3 days my gorgeous little girl has been a nightmare during the day. just wont settle, wont sleep, its taking me up to 3 hours at a time to get her to sleep (i try rocking, swaying, ":shh", feeding, wrapping, putting her down awake, picking her up when she cries to calm her, i even let her cry for about 5 mins then felt like an awful mother!!! out of about 8 hours during the day she has slept maybe an hour and a half. She has pretty much cried the rest of the time so I know she needs the sleep. DF gets home in the afternoon, is really happy to see us for an hour or so. By this stage I am REALLY frustrated, tired, cranky and running out of patience after dealing with a crying baby all day so I have said to him I need a rest and a break, you look after her this evening. After about 30-60 mins of crying he gets really fed up, starts stressing and swearing and getting angry at her and saying shes spoiled, which just stresses me out even more and I end up taking over as he is just working her up.
Firstly, my DF is exactly the same. He loses his patience quickly and will tell Kaelan to "shut-up" (I pull him up for that)... it's just a guy thing me thinks.. but I can understand how it puts more stress on you.
I know that when Kaelan had a growth spurt around three weeks he was really hard to settle... I'd put him down and he'd continually wake up and scream. I would be rocking him back to sleep every 20-30 minutes... so frustrating. Maybe Olivia is having a growth spurt? I hope for your sanity that this passes soon.
For the record, your daughter weighed the same at birth as what my son did at 5 weeks old !! *LOL*
My husband wants me to keep Liam awake more during the day so he will settle at night but I reckon Liam will just end up being a grumble bum by the end of the day
From everything I've ever read about settling babies, the literature says not to keep babies awake in the hope that they'll sleep longer later. It apparently doesn't work and infact just makes them much harder to settle in the long run.
Leashie - Good on you for going out and having a good time.. I'm so envious. Pity about the hangover though !! *LOL* And as for the smoking.. I want one badly !!!! I miss smoking so much...
Jack had his 4 week check up today...and he's doing so well. He's put on over 1 kg since his birth (porky pig) so he's now about 10lb 5oz. She was really happy with his posture and said he holds his head so well when he's on his tummy...I was really proud of him
And you should be proud... job well done girl !!
I'm a demented incontinent woman!!
hehehe.. that made me laugh !! Probably because I can relate...
NoMoreScuba
16-03-2007, 15:50
Hey everyone,
Well, I too am celebrating 1 month of motherhood today. And Charlie is celebrating by being a little monster.
LMenz, congrats to you and jack on doing so well this first month!
Butterflymumma - congrats to you too on surviving your first month!
Purplebird, you cracked me up with the demented incontinent comment - i'm sure you're lovely really !
shelby and others having trouble getting their partners to stay calm - it's so hard! i've almost lost it a couple of times already today, so i can't blame DF for losing it too, though actually i reckon he's calmer than me.
sydney girls - i'm feeling very left out by all this talk of a melbourne meetup - anyone fancy coffee? how many do we have from sydney?
Nomorescuba- I would love to meet up too but im in Newcastle!! Im the ONLY one so i feel a bit left out with the melbourne meet up. I wish we could ALL get together one day and see all our babies!
Leashie- OMG im so so jealous of you. What i would give for a big night on the sherbet (thats alcohol by the way- not drugs). Now that would be heaven! Well done-however, bugger about the toilet and yourself becoming best buddies.
LMenz- wow what a great job yur doing. Thats fantastic and it must be a relief to you!
DH's Mine actually doesnt get frustrated when they are babies- he must get it. BUT when they are older and they are just whinging (im talking 2,3,4,5 etc) for nothing he has no patience for that at all. Im surprised that people in the next suburb dont hear him. It doesnt really bother me too much, i have learnt after 4 to tune out LOL. Its an acquired skill guys, you'll get the hang of it:laughing:.
ME well after 2 more horror nights- ive had enough! I went to the chemist today and bought a food thickener for her bottles. All she wants to do is eat from 9pm to 2.30am. Its doing my head in. I'll make up a bottle and she will drink 50mils or so and spit it out. Then 1/2hr later she wants more:banghead:. I had to sterilise more bottle at 5 am this morning coz she'd had them all thru the night.
Has anyone used one? I'll let you now how we go!!
Have a great weekend:hugs:
Congrats to the mums who's babies are one month old today.. isn't time going so fast?? You know, they'll all be graduating from University before we know it. (Well, hopefully university...)
It occurs to me that Kaelan never got to officially celebrate his first month because there is no 30th February. Oh well, we'll just have to make up for it when we turns two months at the end of March :)
(And you Sydney girls are going to have to make a trip to Melbourne me thinks !! :) )
Congratulations to all mums and bubs that are celebrating milestones (one month / 6 weeks)!!! Well done - your doing it!!!
Forgot to say... re the coffee get-together for the Melb ladies. Does anyone want to put their hand up to have it at their house? Maybe someone who can't drive yet? I was thinking one arvo sometime during the week of 26/3 to 30/3?
So far I have LMenz, Juzzy, Icugal and 1st time mum (and myself) interested, is there anyone else?
I CAN"T WAIT TO DO THE MELBOURNE HOOK UP!!!! I am more than happy to put my hand up to have it at my house - l live in Coburg (about 15 minutes north of the city). I am not able to drive just yet, but i'm hoping :fingerscrossed: l should be able to make short trips as of next week... (it just really depends on how the coccyx goes) Not sure if l would be able to drive to Frankston though... that's a long time for my poor bottom to handle... but l can wait and see...
I wish we could ALL get together one day and see all our babies!
HERE HERE!!! Maybe we could make a goal to all try to get together (somewhere) in 6 months or a years time???
Pregnancy brain? I agree with Penny, pregnancy brain continues, l think it must continue for at least a few months after the birth… well that’s my story and l am sticking with it – otherwise how else can l explain my erratic behaviour and forgetfulness?
Penny – Congratulations on DF’s leave approval – that is great news!
NoMoreScuba – Coen does the same thing with his dummy, that is drop it out of his mouth, l can see what he is doing, he is trying to treat it like a nipple and stroking it with his tongue – which ofcourse means he is pushing it out of his mouth! My idea was firstly that l wasn’t going to use a dummy at all if l could help it, then it was only at night – but l have had a shocking day today and shoved it in his mouth for a little while whilst my cousin was here to get some peace… In the end l wanted to drop some letters into the post box and decided l could make the 3 minute walk even with my broken coccyx… however he screamed so much every time l tried to get him into the pram that it took me 30 minutes to leave the house… (DH was at school) l sat here and thought oh my god l am never ever going to leave this house again… but l did eventually get him in the pram and the little toys hanging off it soothes him quite a bit… l then thought to surprise DH by meeting him at the park (on his way home from uni.), so l called him to see whereabout he was, expecting him to be getting off the tram – and he tells me he is going to be at least another hour – when was he going to let me know? No offence but l am stuck at home, can’t drive, can’t really walk (well not supposed to anyway) and l said okay to him going to the Grand Prix tomorrow and he doesn’t even think to ring me to tell me he is going to be late!!! Sorry – but it gets me a bit angry – however am l going to cope now that he starts work again full time on Monday??? Getting worried now! Coen is thankfully asleep now (after l gave him some tummy time and a bath)… I’m tired…
Hels – Coen’s unsettled period is 10.30-12.30pm
Squiggles – I can’t believe Conner drinks 150ml per feed… how often are your feeds? Coen has put on 700 g in less than two weeks and he only drinks 60-80mls EBM and god knows how much he is getting when he is on the breast… then again Coen has up until today (l’ve been trying to stretch the feeds out) been feeding every 1-2 hours.
Sassi - oh l am so glad to hear that Zane has put on about 370g per week – l thought we were abnormal – 350 in 5 days and then 360 the next week…
1st time mum in melb – I feel guilty about saying yes l have given Coen the boob to settle him – we’re trying to stop that as much as possible, particularly when its only been an hour since his last feed, and now that we have introduced the dummy – l see more and more that he is using me for comfort along with a quick feed…
My_lot - My sympathies, people just don’t get how difficult it is breastfeeding, sure it has its rewards, but it is both emotionally (cos your tied to your child) and physically challenging – they just don’t get that the last thing you want to here is criticism couched as advice… You are doing an amazing job – particularly given you have a whole family to look after as well (personally l don’t know how you do it – l am just getting by with one – so l am in awe)…
Shelby – big hugs to you… l know how you felt with your DP… l think most of us have been through that at least once - the day you described sounds very much like the one l had today – its not fun, and l just kept saying to myself – DH will be home at 6 – only to find out it was going to be closer to 7 and he hadn’t even planned on telling me!!
EskimoMumma
16-03-2007, 19:28
ME well after 2 more horror nights- ive had enough! I went to the chemist today and bought a food thickener for her bottles. All she wants to do is eat from 9pm to 2.30am. Its doing my head in. I'll make up a bottle and she will drink 50mils or so and spit it out. Then 1/2hr later she wants more:banghead:. I had to sterilise more bottle at 5 am this morning coz she'd had them all thru the night.
Has anyone used one? I'll let you now how we go!!
Have a great weekend:hugs:
THat was my DD2 last night to a tee!! What is up with it!??!
(note, shes already ON thickened formula) Dont tell me i have MORE nights tanya!!:gloomy:
EskimoMumma
16-03-2007, 19:30
Forgot to add, of course i will join you! I wish i had more time to sit and read through everything and get to know you ladies more and better.
if it werent for the inlaws coming tomorrow arvo and me stuck cleaning the house id be sitting here till the cows come home :D
Money has been set aside for petrol and snackage :yes:
Hi Girls,
I haven't read through thoroughly (yet again) so in skimming will do my best.
My_lot - Zane has 10 chins and 3 rolls in his thighs... Also agreed that you shouldn't listen to those advisors, I find that usually they aren't listening to what is going on for you, and instead try to force their opinion.
Scuba - Rotovirus is a GI (sorry gastro) but that kids and babies can get, in babies apparently it is very serious causing hospitalisation. Also I'm in Sydney (Surry Hills) and would love to catch up. In fact I caught up with Cats&Kid today, we are planning a picnic in the botanic gardens in a couple of weeks... where are you?
Work - I'm planning on going back to repping in Aug, but until then I will probably pick up some casual nursing shifts starting in May... Penny, don't know about Melb, but in Sydney you can pick your shifts and have plenty of work.
Sarah XOXO
Ruby Slippers
16-03-2007, 19:46
My Little Man
http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=74722
http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?p=1226307#post1226307
I was due to have him on feb 7th 2007
I had him Jan 31st by C-section due to he was a footling breech so really now i'm not a Feb Mum
I hope you are all doing well:hugs:
Kylie.:wizard:
mumslilspunks
16-03-2007, 20:08
Hey Ladies,
Long time no chat. Im not going to be too big on the personals but:
leashie: I would love a night out on the p#$$! And with the smoking thing i too have the odd one after ds1 has gone too bed of a night! Your lucky too have a partner who will look after bubs so that you can have your time out.
lmenz: Glad to hear that Jack is doing really well! Its funny how we feel really good about ourselves when a complete stranger tells us How well our bubs is doing.
Juzzy: Also its good to here that Cassidy is doing really well.
To all you lucky ladies who have partners who help how did can you please tell me how that happens?
My dh is a fantastic dad, Playing and mucking around and all the fun stuff but when it comes to night feeds, looking after the kids 'alone' just doesn happen.
With ds1 not once did he do a night feed even when he was on formula and even now im the one who gets up to both kids of a night while he has his precious 8/9 hrs sleep.
Some nights when im feeding bubs i squirt some boobie juice at him just to wake him up then say "oh sorry love Billy just wont stay on":laughing: I know its cruel but i think bugger you if im awake you should be too.
Does anybody elese's bubs have the worst smelling f#@ts? (bottom wind) Billy is right up there on a 9 out of 10!?
I decided to take Billy to melbourne on the weekend to see some family and gosh was that a nightmare. We all shared one room ( me ds1 and ds2) and every time one woke they woke the other :banghead: And then all the family we had to visit it was just so draining.
Billy is starting to sllep 5/6 hour blocks of a night which is so good. He is on one formula bottle a night and ive also started using 'infants friend'. Has anyone elese used this and does it work?
Well hope all have a good night and isnt kept up to much with an unsettled bub and i think we are all doing a great job and we deserve a big pat on the back for being sleep deprived,demented, incotinent,super women!!!;)
Im off to have a couple of beers while the boys are asleep then its pumping and dumping for me!! :laughing:
Hope you all have a great friday night.
Work - I'm planning on going back to repping in Aug, but until then I will probably pick up some casual nursing shifts starting in May... Penny, don't know about Melb, but in Sydney you can pick your shifts and have plenty of work.
Yeah... same here. Needless to say, I'll never face unemployment, particularly with an ICU Certificate. I've contacted my old boss and she is going to give me some shifts in Critical Care from May onwards.. I'm *so* looking forward to it, because I have a lot of really good friends that work there (and that I don't get to see anymore because stupid me moved to the other side of Melbourne). Although I think I've forgotten how to be a nurse now !! I spent so much time during my pregnancy on sick leave... I think I managed to de-skill myself in that time !! :laughing:
Infact, I would seriously go as far to say that I probably spent more time at the Mercy as a patient, than I did at my own hospital as an employee... that's quite scary really.
I hope I don't have multiple complications with my next pregnancy.
Anyways, getting back to the here and now... I had a really lovely evening with Kaelan tonight. I put him in his electric swing for awhile, then put him down on a mat on the floor in the loungeroom for a long time where we had bonding time. He kicked and squirmed and smiled lots.. we did tummy time for a little bit, though he got sick of that after a few minutes so he went back onto his back. I was blowing raspberries on his tummy and he was smiling back all enthusiastically at me (I wouldn't go as far as to say he laughed, but he was close)... he was just gorgeous... of course, I couldn't help myself and took lots of photos, so I'm sure that some of those will make it onto Kaelans site very soon (link in my sig).
I feel like I could sit here all night and type.. so maybe I'd better end this now before it's too late !! Hope everyone has a good night :)
*Sparkles*
16-03-2007, 20:59
Had a good day today, Reece is now 7 weeks old, where does the time go?!! He actually stands up on me now with his legs straight and with me holding him under his arms. He's also holding up his head well too. We are about to move into the next size nappies (Infant), I can't believe he is nearly out of newborns, at one stage they were too big and leaked lol.
Re The Melb coffee meet, looks like it will be at Juzzy's place in Frankston this time. Juzzy, does Thurs 29th March suit you around 2pm? Can everyone make it on that date?
Next time we could have it on the north side for those who can't make it this time around.
Purplebird - You are welcome to join us.
I'll PM the Melb ladies with the details once we have all agreed on the date :D
EskimoMumma
16-03-2007, 21:42
Me and the girls will be in tow for that!:thumbsup:
THat is if you guys dont mind a tempermental tantrum loving 15month old...:o
Cats&Kid
16-03-2007, 23:43
Hi all,
Congratulations and :hugs: to all the sleep deprived Mums out there and all our beautiful bubs! We made it throught the 9+ months and produced the most amazing little bundles to make the sleep deprivation a little easier to bare (well, sometimes at least :)
Forgive me but I've taken a week to try and catch up on everyones news, but still hadn't managed to get up to date, so I had to give up as I thought I'd never get to post again - so forgive me if I ramble...
To catch up on what's been happening with me - this is the first time I've had to myself since leaving the hospital over 2 weeks ago. I've been either attached to an expresser, a nipple shield or giving a bottle and just trying to stay awake the rest of the time.
I had an unpleasant time in hospital and managed to end up with a virus a few days after leaving and then mastitis a week after. The GP I went to just said I had another virus, so my temprature kept climbing and the childhood nurse rushed me to a dr. when she saw me 3 days later. You can be assured the GP will be getting a piece of my mind next time I see him.... I've haven't felt so totally ill for such a long time and the fact I didn't feel I had the strength to carry or cuddle Matthew was heartbreaking.
Forgive me as I've forgotten who asked about thickened formula. We've been topping Matthew up on the thickened formula (they used Karacare in the hospital) my DP bought it and neither of us were aware there was a thickened and normal version. I must say that he isn't a chucky baby. Except for once in hospital I don't think he's thrown up at all, so for that it seems very good and I haven't had any problems with constipation though I am still expressing for him, so he's probably only getting about 40% formula through the day.
I just wanted to say it's great to see everyones baby photos and I'm pleased we're all still together. Is anyone else obsessed with taking numerous photos of their new addition? We seem to be going overboard - poor Matthew, he'll think his parents are mad!
Must see if I can get an hours sleep before he wakes again. By the time I've expressed and fed a bottle I'm getting about 1-1.5 hours sleep in every 4 is this roughly normal? Also, since the mastitis my supply has dropped off, I recall some recipe for biscuits to help increase it again - does anyone remember this or know where to look for it?
Do hope everyone is well and managing as well as can be expected.
hugs & kisses to all
:wave: mornin everyone
mumslil spunkS- was wondering where youve been! youve been doing all the work huh? we really should start a club?
yesterday i spent HOURS doing washing. thanks to my family here it had all gone a little haywire (it just didnt get done!) so i was soaking, washing, hanging, bringing in, ironing, folding and putting away.
the little man helped
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/eli5.jpg
the big man didnt even notice it had been done!
and it was ALL over the lounges. we had two washing baskets just of ironing!
when i made a comment to dp about work outside the house V work inside the house - he said "do you think i like working 10-12 hours a day!? id rather sit at home and watch tv and play with the kids!"
last night i fed the kids, fed the baby and went out. dp put them all to bed and when i came home about 9pm i slept downstairs in dsd room. dp woke me at 3am saying you really should feed the baby now! no kidding poor kid had gone 8 hours! poor boobs had too!
dsd has the biggest bedroom in our house! it is downstairs and the rest of the rooms are upstairs- so we couldnt really give it to us or the other kids but still it has an ensuit bathroom, fridge, flat screen tv, dvd, video, queen bed and aircon....and the little soNso stays in it about 2 times a year! i think i will make use of it more often!
RUBY- i tried to pm you but couldnt?? so glad you found us..sorry you didnt get the vbac you wanted. your dd2 was breach too...and then little willow did the same to you! bummer. hope your not too dissapointed....always next time! so how are you finding 3?? i found the jump from one to two hard but 2 to 3 was ok.....3 to 4 on the other hand...well. im finding it a little tricky! is your sp a good help?
cats and kids- welcome back to bubhub land...
hows your cat doing with matthew in the house? my "girls" is coping ok...she is very gentle when i put him beside her. she gets up to move almost straight away!
yuor so lucky not to have a chucky baby..mine threw up i the carpark leaving the hospital! 6 hours after the birth and hed only had one feed! i knew it then i was in for some fun and games- and my carpet would never look the same again!
sassi- 10 chins :laughing: when my dd2 was 8-9 months old and just sitting we used to crack up at her boobies hanging over her belly and her belly hanging over her legs. she was our own little buddha! its so cute! i really hope this one is rolly polly too.
rotovirus- my eldest had this at 1.5 yr old. she was hospitalised....along with 2 other kids from her pre-school! she shat and shat it was gross! we had to gown up in space suits...and the smell was so bad we really needed oxygen masks too! but the worst of it was her having to have a drip as she was so dehydrated. not good and our baby will have the vax for sure. dont need to repeat that one!
jeez id better go get another hour or two sleep. dp is working all day today , again, so ill probably take the kids tenpin bowling- thats always good for a laugh :D
My_lot.. Hehehe !! What a gorgeous photo. Eli looks like he's quite comfortable in there :)
Ruby Slippers, mumslilspunk and Cats&Kid... welcome back !! Don't become strangers.
My topic for discussion today... if you have pets, how have they coped with the new arrival??
I've got two dogs, Charlotte and Mollie... both chihuahua's, both spoiled and both gorgeous !! (IMHO of course *LOL*)
Charlotte has always been the dominant dog... I got her first so she has had a little more trouble adjusting. I don't think she has quite worked what Kaelan is.. sometimes I think that she thinks he is a toy which could be a little worrying I guess. I know that she would never deliberately try to hurt him... but I'm still keeping a bit of distance between them anyway, just to be on the safe side.
My other dog Mollie absolutely loves Kaelan and is very maternal with him. She looks all worried when he cries and she happily sits next to him when she can. She'd probably lick him all day if I let her (which I do not, for the record :) ).
Photo of Charlotte (http://www.penny-clark.com/temp/char_edit.jpg)
Photo of Mollie (http://www.penny-clark.com/temp/mollie_edit.jpg)
I love my fur-babies !!
JoJoMart
17-03-2007, 11:12
cats&kid - I was doing that, expressing, BF then topping up Liam with formula and hardly got any sleep because it all took so long. I'm now trying BF during the day with the occasional express & then formula (Karicare 1) top ups at night. It's so hard to get the right balance esp. when you don't know how much milk supply you have. I didn't have much so trying to build it up by BF more. Since BF during the day (no formula) Liam has had fewer wet nappies which worries me a bit. He had lots when getting formula during the day plus the expressed milk.
Icugal - I have a dog (lab/pointer x) who was quite jealous when we first brought Liam home. He is very attached to my husband so when he was giving Liam a bottle our dog Rexie would act like his nose was out of joint and started barking......he seems to be getting better though. We have tried to keep Rexie inside like he usually is so not disrupting his life too much, but he sleeps outside at night. One thing I noticed when we had Liam on the floor our dog acted like he'd seen a rabbit which worried me a bit! So, when we have Liam in the rocker or on the floor Rexie goes outside.
I wouldn't trust our dog with the baby but I think they get used to the noise......our dog even acts concerned when the baby screams sometimes but other times he heads for the back door to be let out! Lucky him that he can escape like that hey :rolleyes:
icugal- i believe you that you never let her lick but i bet she licks every time you turn your back!:laughing: :laughing:
OMG charlotte has such a cute lil face (dont tell anyone i said that- i am not a dog person!)
are dogs lick is cleaner than cats lick?
cats are chronic bum lickers!
ill admit it my cat has licked the babys face! dp would have kittens if he knew that!
i take every opportunity for a bonding sesh.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/102_3311.jpg
her fav spot is his change table!
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/102_3459.jpg
she will move over only IF she has to! if i give her a shove! and then he gets filthy looks as if to say hes taken over HER change table!
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/102_3457.jpg
shes been pretty good - she hasnt got into his bed once and we always shut the door on him while hes asleep and we use an apnoea monitor on him every time he sleeps....
SuperFrog
17-03-2007, 11:40
All this talk about pets got me to finally post a picture for my avatar. Hope it works. It looks like Liam poked Astro in the eye, but they are a lot further apart than it looks!
Our cat Astro couldn't care less about Liam. My only worry is that he would try and curl up to sleep on top of him. He is a very big cat so we are extra careful when he is around Liam.
We've also put a latch on Liam's bedroom door so the air can get in but Astro can't. Astro was very distressed when we first put the latch on, before Liam was born, but soon got used to the idea.
Question: When Liam cries his tears are quite yellow and gunky. Not as bad as conjunctivits, just a bit thick and sticky, which dries crusty if left there. Anyone else have this, and should I be worried?
mumslilspunks
17-03-2007, 13:09
Well both my boys are finally asleep at the same time so im having some bubhub time!
icugal: I have two dogs aswell and my dog, bundy (ridgeback) loves the kids. He is so good with ds1 and puts up with heaps. Hasnt really had much time with Billy but when he does he just has a sniff then thats it.My husband has a german shorthaired pointer (gus) who is only a pup and can be a bit rough. But he's learning.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j262/mumslilspunk/january004.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j262/mumslilspunk/Gus003.jpg
my_lot: What a cute cat you have. Im not really a cat person but he's pretty cute.
Superfrog: As for bubs eyes Billy also has this. We were told to just wipe the eyes with saline to clean all the gunk of then put a couple of drops of boobie juice in them! He's has really improved since doing this. Aparently is pretty normal and alot of babies have it.
me: Last night billy slept for 6 hours straight and it was lovely. Except this morning i herd him having a poo so when time come to change him i picked him up and he had it up his back to his neck :eek: It was just everywhere. Dont know how it would get that far up but it did. I got weed on yesterday. AH the joys of motherhood.
Hope everyones having a lovely st pats days!
mumslilspunks
17-03-2007, 15:13
Sorry for the double post ladies but i just put bubs in the hug a bub and its so good!! He has been really unsettled and i thought bugger it ill give it a try and it calmed him down straight away and now he's fast asleep. Heres a picky:http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j262/mumslilspunk/hugabub004.jpg
EskimoMumma
17-03-2007, 15:20
Beautiful pic! Ive got one too..
yours looks so neat and nice! you must show me how to do it, i must not be doing mine the right way..:o
mumslilspunks
17-03-2007, 15:38
I just watched the dvd you get when you buy it and practiced ;) ( without bubs init ofcourse)
EskimoMumma
17-03-2007, 15:43
hmm..how much practice time did you put in?
Took me three days just to work out how it all goes and now I need to perfect it...
mumslilspunks
17-03-2007, 16:12
Thats probably the 5th time ive done it and first with bubs in it. Dont worry how good it works aslong as it does the job i say!:thumbsup:
EskimoMumma... your signature confuses me somewhat.
You've only just had a baby haven't you?? Because your signature says you have 1 son, 2 daughters and you're trying to conceive #4... I'm assuming that your recent baby is number 4... or are you just really, really keen?? ;)
EskimoMumma
17-03-2007, 17:03
:detective:
Hmm..Well...
:detective:
I'm keen :laughing: But im thinking of taking it out since DD2 is deciding to play up her routine :p
Well if you've just had a baby in the past month or two and are TTC again... then you ARE keen !!! *LOL*
But you go girl !!
Truth be told, if I didn't have the caesar I probably would be wanting to TTC soon too (we will wait until the end of the year now).
I really miss being pregnant... I feel like I'm forgetting everything about it. Post-pregnancy brain strikes again ;)
EskimoMumma
17-03-2007, 17:55
:laughing: The clucky baby bug is rampant!
Im willing for another as soon as DP makes up his mind. One day hes keen the next he isn't.
I know he'll be clean if it gaureentees a boy :yes:
Squiggles
17-03-2007, 18:54
I just jumped on and had to read 8 pages!! OMG I just cant keep up... sorry ladies!! I will make an effort for some personals from now on... geez we can all talk :ecomcity: I just cant get to write to everyone and I so badly want to but I can't get on here long enough anymore. Connor will not sleep during the day for more than about 40 mins max each time - anmd sometimes no sleep between feeds. So I try madly to get washing done and eat something and then its back to feeding the little one again!!
This week on Tues I went with a girlfriend to a mums group - it was one where they have a sing-a- long. I was so embarassed - Connor screamed and screamed the whole time and I fumbled around trying to calm him and hold him and shuv the dummy in. Oh well. It was a learning experience and I feel much more confident for going, Im looking forward to going again next week and actually trying to relax and not look like the "new and inexperienced mumma" My friend was such an angel, we went out for lunch afterwards and she helped me settle Connor etc meanwhile her little boy was a total angel - but he is 4 months old. She has told me it will get easier.
Another amazing feat of braveness... I went and did the grocery shopping... just me and Connor. No helper!!! Connor onloy had a sook while we were leaving, but I feel confident to get there and put him in the trolley etc all on my own now!!
My tear is causing heaps of grief and I am now having to have ultrasound on my perenium three times a week. I have no idea how long its going to take to heal but I hope it calms down soon.
As for the feed thing as I mentioned Connor is having 150mls each feed and he feeds every 3 hours on the dot - this now includes night time :banghead: He weighs 4.3kgs now... I will take him to be weighed next week. Im only weighing him fortnighly now.
... he is squiggling and blowing bubbles and the arms are moving... its the wind up - better go now ladies...
Big hugs to all the fab mummas. Take care :hugs:
*Sparkles*
17-03-2007, 19:56
LMenz, icugal, 1st time Mum in Melb, EskimoMumma, harleyq and Purplebird.
I have sent you all a PM about the Melb meet :D
If I have forgotten anyone, please let me know.
We had a great day, took my parents into the city. We had lunch in Southbank and then wandered up to Myers and browsed the shops. It was very busy as the GP is on, but Reece was really well behaved. I gave him a bottle during lunch and then again on the way home in the car, but couldn't wind him so he fell asleep. Naughty mum :shame:
He's gone to bed now, poor thing is exhausted so he didn't protest at all, I hope he sleeps well tonite :fingerscrossed:
He cried a bit when hungry but we didn't get arsenic hour tonite due to being out :yelclap: .
Going to my SIL's tomorrow for a BBQ lunch and to watch the GP race. It's nice to be out and about socially, and alot easier now he is getting older.
Have a great weekend everyone.
Cats&Kid
17-03-2007, 20:20
Thanks for the welcome back ladies, good to be apart of the world again.
My-lot: I can't get over your beautiful cat just sitting there with Eli!
As to my cats they are very different. I swear my girl knew he was coming and is very good - not jealous but waits for my attention when she can get it and sits at a distance on the bed when he's being changed. She also gets upset if he cries and comes to tell me he's not happy. My boy, Teddy, is a different story - don't think he's worked out what Matthew is yet. The first night we had him in the bassinet and we'd both left the room to get bottles etc and DP came back in to find Ted standing on the chair looking at the little bundle of movement ready to pounce. He got severly told off and has kept his distance since, though I still see him occassionally looking at the bassinet when it's moving.
Must say my best purchase was the cat cover for the cot. It gives me total peace of mind as neither cat has managed to get into it and we can't lock them out of the bedroom as their tray is in the ensuit.
Squiggles: Poor dear, your tear sounds dreadful - do hope it heals quicker for you. Must admit that was one of my biggest fears about labour - it makes the emergency c-section more palitable.
1st time Mum in Melb: :hugs: to you - good to know I'm not the only one out there feeding by 3 methods! I must admit it makes me think formula would be so much easier, at least we're trying to give our boys a good start in life - though even these thoughts don't get me by during the 4am expressing :)
Well off to sterilise bottles, pump etc before HRH wakes up and demands his feed. He's even tempered except when he's hungry and it's "Feed me now" or all hell breaks loose :)
Have a great night ladies and hope we manage some sleep in there somewhere! :sleeping:
NoMoreScuba
17-03-2007, 20:34
Hello...
Just wanted to say i'm LOVING the animal pics. We don't have any pets 'cause we're still in rented accom (though hopefully buying a house in the next 6 months). I can't wait to get a cat or 2.
squiggles - :hugs: to you on the tear front...i hope it heals ok, sounds pretty drastic to have to get it looked at 3 times a week - poor you...
hugabub - yep, i'm loving mine too, though mine doesn't look anywhere as neat as mumslilpunk's !
As for the rotovirus - eek, gonna have to get that one i think! Sounds pretty scary my_lot.
Well, I had a breakthrough today - expressed my first bottle of milk this morning, and DF gave it to charlie this evening and he loved it! Had to fill him up on boob afterwards because i think he needs more, but i'm just so pleased he took it no problems, means i can get a bit of freedom if i start expressing more regularly!
LMenz, icugal, 1st time Mum in Melb, EskimoMumma, harleyq and Purplebird.
I have sent you all a PM about the Melb meet :D
If I have forgotten anyone, please let me know.
I think harleyq said she couldn't drive yet... I was just about to offer to pick her up on the way (Coburg isn't that far from me).. but then I realised that I would need to have 2 car seats in the car... which I don't have unfortunately. :no:
Squiggles... I wish you a speedy recovery :hugs: I'm curious as to how they u/s the perineum (but don't worry, I'm not asking for details here). I had to have an internal u/s the other day... if that serves as any sort of consolation.
Thanks everyone for sharing your animal pics.. please keep them coming... infact, feel free to share photos of anything you want. I *love* looking at other peoples photos !!
Hi everyone. Geez you can talk!!! I've been off line today and i come in tonight to have to read 3 or so pages!
Im so jealous of you melbourne girls. I wish i could come but i think its probably a bit far for lunch?
Squiggles-OMG you poor thing! I hope it heals soon for you- that doesnt sound good at all!
pets we have a labrador, whose three and still silly! Shes a bit of a shocker, im still waiting for her to grow out of her silliness but shes a beautiful gentle dog. She gets a bit boisterious with the older kids and knocks them over etc but she would never hurt them. When we have Cody outside, she sits by the rocker and stares at her. Doesnt try to touch her at all.
I remeber when we had a Rottweiller (very very gentle dog btw) and we bought DS1 home from hosptial and "introduced" them Dakota had this look on his face and licked his lips like we were presenting him with the biggest, most juiciest bone in doggie land:eek:. He sadly had to be put to sleep 2 years ago but he was fantatsic with the boys. He used to follow them around all day and sleep with DS1 in his bed. DS1 still gets upset about him (as do i) dying even though he was only 4 at the time.
Me- well the formula thickener did the trick last night. Cody slept from 9.30pm till 6.30am this morning:smiliedance:.
We took the kids 4wdriving on the beach today. It was Cody's first time, even though the water was too cold for her to swim yet. She seemed to like the drive and laying on her rug on the sand with us. We had a great time and didnt get home till 8.30pm tonight.Its very handy to just drive on the sand and pull up, especially when you have so much stuff to take with you-no trudgingthru the sand with your arms loaded LOL. The boys were surfing and we are in the process of teaching DD1 to stand up on the surf board alone. She will stand up with Dp, one of her brothers or me standing with her but just not alone yet. Shes not far away from it though and should be surfing by easter. All my kids are little surfers which is lucky coz DP and i are big on that stuff (even though i have a HUGE shark phobia). We've taught the kids from a young age-I might post some pics of them doing it one day soon.
Eskimomumma-wow! I cant believe you guys are TTC so soon. Thats fantastic! Good luck!
Have fun at your meet guys!
We've taught the kids from a young age-I might post some pics of them doing it one day soon.! ...:laughing: you can send them to me tanya..its ok..and when i come see ya ill sit down with you and show you how... talking of meeting...do you want to? or am i still a nigel > pm me! :fingerscrossed: oh ill have to bring 2 of the 4 kids... i read your post to dp and he said no to sleeping under trees in the park- waste of a day...jeez hes a dope sometimes! he said i could take the car if i take two kids too:laughing:
so if your free (and want to meet me and my lil ferals then ill be there with bells on.
all these melbourney mummas meeting i really do feel like a nigel
ruby- your a feb mumma. stay with us.
eskimomumma- you want a boy? get your dp into boxers and feed him coffee!!! really tho...the shettles method worked for us..(used with dd2 )you can buy the book from a book store.
hells- i sent dp out the other night to get that CD he came back with something else (hhmm who would have guessed!) "music for dreaming" its really good, very relaxing ...i had to hold my eyelids open!
we had the wiggles sleepy songs in ds room but he likes to watch them now! i didnt even think to get a cd for Eli's room SO thanks for that.
got to go make the most of the peace and quiet in my house....
all these melbourney mummas meeting i really do feel like a nigel
Who is this Nigel fella???? :laughing: :D
(sorry, when I'm sleep deprived, I think I'm funny :) )
My-Lot- YES YEs YES!!!! I want to meet you. I will have 4 of my ferrals so dont worry about your two! They can all be ferral together while we sit down, relax, and forget we even have them, while they are somewhere else in the house killing each other:laughing:. Cant wait. I'll have to tee it up with work to have the day off but that will be no drama-i have 4 kids-ones bound to be sick or DP or someone LOL, any excuse will do!
I know what you mean about the nigel thing. I think im the only one from the hunter in here and while sydney is only 1.5hrs away, its a little far to go with 4 kids for lunch.
icugal- hehe dont worry, im the same- EVERYTHING seems funny when your so tired- i get completely stupid when im exhausted.
Food Thickener- If anyone has a reflux baby or one that doesnt want to sleep at night i cant recommend this highly enough. It can be combined with breastmilk,or formula and makes the formula like a consistency somewhere between milk and custard. Cody has slept thru the last 2 nights on this and after she has finished the bottle she goes straight to sleep and theres no waking her. I dont give it to her thru the day as she's pretty good then but just that last pm bottle and i am feeling like a new woman!
Have a great weekend everyone!
Food Thickener- If anyone has a reflux baby or one that doesnt want to sleep at night i cant recommend this highly enough. It can be combined with breastmilk,or formula and makes the formula like a consistency somewhere between milk and custard. Cody has slept thru the last 2 nights on this and after she has finished the bottle she goes straight to sleep and theres no waking her. I dont give it to her thru the day as she's pretty good then but just that last pm bottle and i am feeling like a new woman!
So, where do we buy this magic sleep-inducing miracle?? :)
*Sparkles*
18-03-2007, 09:57
Penny - I'm pretty sure the food thickener is the karicare one, it can be added to any formula. I looked at it in the chemist and thought about getting some for Reece. It says to add 2 scoops but I thought I might add just 1 scoop. He doesn't have reflux but sometimes is a bit sickie.
With regards to the meet, could HarleyQ fit her carseat into your car for the trip? I suppose it depends on the age of your car and whether you were able to fit yours yourself or if you needed the extra fittings?
Sorry to hear some of you have problems with your caesar scars.
I had a VB and I think I now have an infection "down there" where my stitches were (it was a 1st degree tear). I am very sore and swollen so I have to keep having warm salt baths and I'm taking anti-immflamatories. I have an appt with the OB on monday so I might need some anti biotics. It's 7 weeks since the birth and I am still not right :banghead:
Last night I had a bad headache so I didn't wake Reece up for a bottle after all. DH was also very grumpy so I told him to "get stuffed" in not so polite terms lol. So Reece ended up sleeping from 8.30pm to 2am. Then he had a feed and slept again until 7am :smiliedance: So I think that is the most sleep we have had in a while.
We're off to SIL's now for a BBQ lunch and to watch the GP race :D
Hi ladies,
I've found you again. You keep moving and I'm having a hard time keeping up.
What are the details for the Melbourne meet? We'd love to join you if we can...
I will go through and read up on all the pages and do personals once I've caught up.
Speak to you again really soon.
EskimoMumma
18-03-2007, 10:57
It can be bought at ther chemist ranging from 12-13dollars.
Karicare food thickener :thumbsup:
My-Lot- YES YEs YES!!!! I want to meet you. I will have 4 of my ferrals so dont worry about your two!
I know what you mean about the nigel thing. I think im the only one from the hunter in here and while sydney is only 1.5hrs away, its a little far to go with 4 kids for lunch.
im 12 hours away from you!! ooow you must feel special!!! :laughing:
i might have to do the meet up very soon after we arrive- so holidaying with 4 kids is still a novelty for dp or hes going to want me to take the four ferlas!!
i used the thickener with dd1 for reflux..
i used one called enfelac AR (from memory?) it was a formula that was already thick...she was on a script (prepulsid) and i used the enfelac AR for formula and for EBM i mixed it with the karicare....she still threw up all the time.
at 14 weeks i was about to put baby vix rub on her while she was asleep i put my hand down on her and couldnt feel her chest rising with breathing...she wasnt breathing. i picked her up and she was floppy like a rag doll. my mother did CPR while i called an ambulance....they gave her oxygen and took her straight away...anyway she was taken to hospital then taken to a bigger childrens hospital for further tests.
they did a berrium swallow test where she was given a bottle of chalky like milk and xrayed - we watched this come up and down and she had to lie there screaming while they finished the test. in the end she projectile vomited all over the table and the dr announced that she had projectile reflux :banghead: no kidding!
the dr thought she may have vomited and asphyxiated but had to rule out apnoea (as in sids) she also had a sleep study done. she was then put on a monitor for every sleep..she failed to gain weight well and had to have alot of check ups as the only option we had if it got worse was an operation. i was shown ways to help prevent her from being in a position that could lead to her choking
Eli is using the same monitor that we used for years with dd1 and then with the other two. (you may have seen a blue cord in his pics of eli) while i joke about his chucking up everywhere it can be very serious. i never sleep him on his back or tummy and he is never flat on his back when not alseep..he doesnt even have tummy time. everything is elevated incase he throws up.
... using the thicken formula can work a treat for refluxers and help a non refluxer settle but the reflux should always be checked by a dr. i dont mean to harp here but when i read about a baby with reflux i just cringe at the thought of him/her being put flat and not elevated...i just dont want to sound like a know it all. when this happened to us it was my first baby and i thought that all babies sicked up a little and no harm done- i really found out the hard way...i just wanted to share this if anyone has a sicky baby
anyways i think ive said enough for one day:o
oh my goodness My_lot.. what a horrible thing to go through... that is every parents worst nightmare. Thank *god* you just happened to walk in when you did to find her not breathing... Now I don't feel so stupid for regaularly checking Kaelan all the time.
I'm so glad that your daughter survived that awful experience... :hugs:
Squiggles
18-03-2007, 17:44
hugabub - yep, i'm loving mine too, though mine doesn't look anywhere as neat as mumslilpunk's !
Ahhhhhhh I am so jelous. We still have the dreaded thing and DH tried it yesterday - still no luck Connor just hates it, I think its because he knows it would make our life easier... little bugger!!!
Well done Nomorescuba with the expressing... you will find it much easier to delegate feeds now. Its the one thing that I love about feeding Connor from the bottle - anyone can do it!
perineum (but don't worry, I'm not asking for details here). I had to have an internal u/s the other day... if that serves as any sort of consolation.
Thanks everyone for sharing your animal pics.. please keep them coming... infact, feel free to share photos of anything you want. I *love* looking at other peoples photos !!
Ultrasound - its really dignified (NOT) they fill a condom or a rubber glove with water and I hold it over the perineum and the ultrasound passes through the water to the muscle. Haven't seen much of an improvement yet. I am getting a little worried as its 6 weeks now and its still as sore as it was in the first week... and Im still on Voltaren 3 times a day and Panadene forte for the pain (which is awful for good ol' constipation :thumbsdown:)
Pets - gee give me any opportunity to brag about my beloved German Shepherd!!! We have 2 dogs - My Sheppy who is the absolute love of my life (well was until Connor was born) he has always been my baby - he's nearly 5 now and the most beautiful natured dog, so gentle and so loving. He has been great with Connor, very interested in him and always wanting to lick him. Only prob is he is so big he tends to intimidate Connor a but when he comes up wants to be so close! Here's a pic with DH too - http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q44/bigdogbrodie/Connor067.jpg
We also have a mini foxy who is 2 and called Minnie. She is suffering from severe stupidness - she is by far the dumbest dog on the planet (love her to bits though!), we have really struggled with obedience lessons with her and she just wont do what she's told, she's also extremely jelous and always wanting affection, so for this reason she has not been trusted to be around Connor yet. Here's a pic of her and Brodie http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q44/bigdogbrodie/Animlas003.jpg
We also have a cat called Trinny who thinks she is a dog. She is fascinated with Connor and always trying to build up the courage to go near him, she gets close but as soon as Connor moves, she is off - big wuss. She is getting closer and closer though. She (like most cats) likes to be naughty and go in places where she knows shes not allowed to go and I have caught her trying to get in the bassinette a few times. Here's a pic of her on the kitchen table - another pklace she knows shes not allowed to go! http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q44/bigdogbrodie/Animlas014.jpg
Sorry... love my animal bubbas!
all these melbourney mummas meeting i really do feel like a nigel
Big Nigel here too... I bet there's no chance of a meet up in the Adelaide hills. I might have to say Hi to the Melb mummas at some stage - DH will be back in Melb for work soon and I occasionally need to pop across too.
i used the thickener with dd1 for reflux..
i used one called enfelac AR (from memory?) it was a formula that was already thick...she was on a script (prepulsid) and i used the enfelac AR for formula and for EBM i mixed it with the karicare....she still threw up all the time.
at 14 weeks i was about to put baby vix rub on her while she was asleep i put my hand down on her and couldnt feel her chest rising with breathing...she wasnt breathing. i picked her up and she was floppy like a rag doll. my mother did CPR while i called an ambulance....they gave her oxygen and took her straight away...anyway she was taken to hospital then taken to a bigger childrens hospital for further tests.
they did a berrium swallow test where she was given a bottle of chalky like milk and xrayed - we watched this come up and down and she had to lie there screaming while they finished the test. in the end she projectile vomited all over the table and the dr announced that she had projectile reflux :banghead: no kidding!
the dr thought she may have vomited and asphyxiated but had to rule out apnoea (as in sids) she also had a sleep study done. she was then put on a monitor for every sleep..she failed to gain weight well and had to have alot of check ups as the only option we had if it got worse was an operation. i was shown ways to help prevent her from being in a position that could lead to her choking
OMG - I would have panicked. How scary. I have a thing for the bed that elevates bubbas head for that reason (was given to me) haven't sued it yet... but I might now. Im always checking Connor at night as he tends to be really spewy.
Had the night form hell last night. Connor was hungry and then spewy - out of his nose too... poor darling was freaking out. Not nice. Then we had the red face and the hard poos. I felt bad as I yelled at him yesterday evening - I was so tired I yelled at him to shut up and felt so so guilty that I was up like a rocket and cuddling and comforting him every time he made a sound last night to try and let him know I was sorry.
I bought him some cute little boots from Pumpkin patch the other day - they just look so adorable... ok so heres another pic http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q44/bigdogbrodie/Connor088.jpg
I think I have developed an obsession for buying clothes for Connor and then having to take pics of him in each of his new outfits!! DH thinks I am a psycho!! :laughing:
Hop you have all enjoyed your weekend. Congrats to those who's bubs have turned 1 month old too!!
NoMoreScuba
18-03-2007, 18:23
i used the thickener with dd1 for reflux..
i used one called enfelac AR (from memory?) it was a formula that was already thick...she was on a script (prepulsid) and i used the enfelac AR for formula and for EBM i mixed it with the karicare....she still threw up all the time.
at 14 weeks i was about to put baby vix rub on her while she was asleep i put my hand down on her and couldnt feel her chest rising with breathing...she wasnt breathing. i picked her up and she was floppy like a rag doll. my mother did CPR while i called an ambulance....they gave her oxygen and took her straight away...anyway she was taken to hospital then taken to a bigger childrens hospital for further tests.
they did a berrium swallow test where she was given a bottle of chalky like milk and xrayed - we watched this come up and down and she had to lie there screaming while they finished the test. in the end she projectile vomited all over the table and the dr announced that she had projectile reflux :banghead: no kidding!
the dr thought she may have vomited and asphyxiated but had to rule out apnoea (as in sids) she also had a sleep study done. she was then put on a monitor for every sleep..she failed to gain weight well and had to have alot of check ups as the only option we had if it got worse was an operation. i was shown ways to help prevent her from being in a position that could lead to her choking
Eli is using the same monitor that we used for years with dd1 and then with the other two. (you may have seen a blue cord in his pics of eli) while i joke about his chucking up everywhere it can be very serious. i never sleep him on his back or tummy and he is never flat on his back when not alseep..he doesnt even have tummy time. everything is elevated incase he throws up.
... using the thicken formula can work a treat for refluxers and help a non refluxer settle but the reflux should always be checked by a dr. i dont mean to harp here but when i read about a baby with reflux i just cringe at the thought of him/her being put flat and not elevated...i just dont want to sound like a know it all. when this happened to us it was my first baby and i thought that all babies sicked up a little and no harm done- i really found out the hard way...i just wanted to share this if anyone has a sicky baby
anyways i think ive said enough for one day:o
Oh my god, i'm reading this with my mouth wide open in amazement...
Thank god she was ok, it's just incredible that you happened to be there and found her.
shajake - nice to have you back again! how are the twins doing?
squiggles - shame connor won't let you use the hugabub...maybe sell it on ebay, they get a really good price on there.
We've put charlie through hell today - did the 75th anniversary walk over the harbour bridge. This involved getting a bus, going to a friend's place for lunch, doing the walk, going to a pub to meet a friend, then getting the ferry, then another bus, and finally, 7 hours later, getting home. Charlie was really good all day, but overstimulation...yes! We are very stressed too, it was too much really. But i'm kind of pleased we've survived it, and he was such a good boy.
my-lot OMG!! You must have been petrified! This is why it is so important that we all know our infant CPR!!!! I had a similar incident with DS1- i had walked in to close his window and he spewed as i walked in the door and choked. I ran to the cot to flip him over and it just poured out while the poor little mite struggled to breathe. Thank god i walked in when i did.
My experience was not even in the same league as yours Kay, thats just to scary to even contemplate!
I too have sleep/breathing monitors on the babies cots! I dont think i would sleep without them.
I took the boys to the footy today:smiliedance: YAY- the NRL is back. DH hates it so he stayed home with the girls- seems a little backward at our house hey! AND the Knights won so even better!!!!
Have good night!
i didnt mean to freak you new mummas out!
i really did have a b@stard of an introduction to motherhood! one day ill tell you all about that same child getting pneumoccocal disease!!....
it was like the hospital was our second home! between dd1 getting pneumo & her long term recovery and my preterm labours and then premmie births (i was pregnant with dd2 when dd1 got the pneumo)-we just seemed to live in the place -it was alot to do with me leaving so soon after Eli was born! i just did not want to be in a hospital with him!
roopee- the monitor i use is a sensor pad i tape to his belly then plug the other end into a small monitor. its set to alarm at 10 or 20 second- (of no movement) i pick the setting. it is normal for a baby to stop breathing for up to 17 seconds so i set it at 20.
i have many friends that use the mattress monitors they are good for peace of mind...but it bugs me that i have 2 friends with babies under 1 who use these and both parents dont know first aid!! i just cant see the point in it! i did st johns first aid "care for kids" in december just gone to get ready for the new baby- it had only been two years since my last one but my dds school were offering it for free (the p&c were paying the $70ea for 15 people- p&c rock hey!) so i put my name down and got in!
scuba- we were staying with family so id put her bassinet next to the lounge and was on it next to her..we were very lucky.
good on you for the walk over the bridge. and happy birthday to our bridge! in the telegraph today there was a story about a girl born on the bridge, in the car on the way to hospital, in lane 5 - LOL - did you see it?
squiggles-
your cat is really cute! kitchen bench? what kitchen bench :D
dp always says "dont let the cat on the kitchen bench" really- shes not near the food prep area. she just wants to watch whats going on.shes part of the family too!
our weekend-
dp went out to a party last night- a guy he knows through work. i didnt want to go i just couldnt be bothered with a babysitter/ expresso ect so i stayed with the kids and he went. he drove there (thinking hed be bored and come home) well 5 hours and Many drinks later! he got a lift back. so today he went on his bike to go fetch the car...and on the way had meeting with the cement! he went off it and came down hard- hes all smashed up.... hes gone to bed on really strong pain killers- so im not sure what hes going to be like in the morning. heaven help me if he has to take a day off work. he wont know what to do with himself!
:smiliedance: feb 5 babies are 6 weeks old tomorrow!:smiliedance:
Hi girls,
Just a quick hello from me before I dash into the shower and put a load of washing on (taking advantage of Ryan having a short nap). I hope everyone had a lovely weekend!
Re expressing: This might be common sense but I didn't know so I'll share - I too was having trouble expressing more than 30mls off each breast at a time (particularly when he started to want to drink more) and my cousin advised to express while feeding (from the opposite breast). This maximises the let down effect apparently. Doing this, I now manage to get 150mls off my first two feeds of the day (minimising the need to express of EVERY feed throughout the day to get the same amount). So far, my breasts are coping (not much engorgement) and I am getting enough each day for DF to do a nightly feed PLUS one or two for the freezer :D.
It's trickly to juggle a baby and a pump (obviously I'm using an electric - don't know if it would be possible with a manual pump) and sometimes I think that the quality of the breastfeed suffers (no hand free to guide his suckling etc) but it works for me.
Re pets: My cat Nigel is coping ok with the baby - I allow him to get as close as possible to Ryan (yes, he has been licked too) when I'm around so I can see what he's doing. Mostly, like my_lot's cat, he sleeps on the changetable, apparently overseeing the whole baby process. The only problem we have is if Ryan is sleeping in our bed next to me (this is usually Nigel's spot). If we don't watch him, the cat will sit on Ryan's head in an effort to wedge closest to me!!
Re rotavirus vaccine: Our friend's daughter had this VERY badly at 18 months and was hospitalised for 2 weeks. I asked my GP about it last week and he strongly recommended that we get it. He said it was more important for children who'll be going to child care with lots of other germy kids!
Us: Can those with older babies tell me whether the growth spurt at 3 weeks is real? If so, I think we could be in the midst of one but I'm not sure. Ryan was doing really well, going nearly 3 hrs between feeds and sleeping 4-5 hours at least once through the night. Since Friday, he has increased his feeds to two hourly and yesterday I nearly lost it when he cried for a feed nearly every hour! It was definitely hunger - accompanied by the usual signs (fist in mouth, tongue hanging out etc). I tried to stretch him out each time and avoided giving him top ups of EBM (but did give him 60ml to give me a break!) as I know that the 'purpose' of his regular feeding is prob to increase my supply, but it was hard work! I ended up bringing him into our bed last night where he could have constant access to boobie juice and eventually he fell asleep... for five hours!! This was the first long break I'd had for two days! :o Did others experience this? If so, I'm wondering how long it will last - my nipples can't take much more :laughing:. Also (I'm hoping not), but could these be colic symptoms starting (and not a 'growth spurt')??
Sorry not to get to personals - thanks to everyone for continuing to share your stories (even the scary ones) - they are invaluable and enriching.
Have a wonderful day.
Nina xo
ps... lovely to meet you on Friday, Ziggy - can't wait to do it again and also to meet you other lovely Brisbane mummies! :hugs:
Hi guys how was everyones weekend i went to a very good friends wedding and it was absolutly beautiful by far the best i have been to and it was all in her back yard she surprised me by asking me to be her witness and then i had to give a speach(very scarey) i had to skull a drink first and no im not an alco cause it would look like that drinking 2 weekends in a row but i only had 2 celabration drinks this weekend.
Then yesterday DP and i painted Marissa's room pink and purple i will take pics when its finished.
OUR FAB FEB 5TH BABYS ARE 6 WEEKS TODAY:eek:
Time flys when your having fun.
Welcome back cats&kids & shajake
MYLOT you poor thing i'm so glad your little one was ok. i have brought a angel care moniter with the thing that goes under the mattress but i don't no cpr. But i am going to suggest at the next p&c meeting at the school about doing the care for kids as there are alot of bubs about to be born at DS school.
NINA RE our meet i couldn't make it on friday as i had to help my friend set up for her wedding but i would love to meet up.
I no that of myself nina butterflymummy and ziggy are keen for a meet. Is there anyone else in brisbane? Where is a good place to meet ? do we go to a park or a shopping centre i don't mind. I would have it at my house but we are renervating at the moment so maybe in a few months i can have it here but let me no what you think. We could make it this week or next.
US i think marissa is going through a growth spurt she is really sooky and wont let me put her down she was sleeping really well through the night but now she is up and down. I can't remember this with DS as it was 5 yrs ago.
Anyway i'm off for now.
I'm glad all of u that are B/F are feeling better i really wish that i could off B/F :crying:
keep up the good work but don't get to upset if its to hard, as you did your best and thats all we can do for our kids.
Alicia :hugs:
Purplebird
19-03-2007, 11:23
Hi Lovely Ladies,
Hope you and your beautiful bubs are all good. Well - hoorah! Eloise has finally gone for a daytime sleep without using my boob as a dummy!! This is the first time in days. I think she's been having a growth spurt - very hungry and grumpy - and am I glad it's over!! My nipples couldn't take it any more, lol. Speaking of which:
Us: Can those with older babies tell me whether the growth spurt at 3 weeks is real? If so, I think we could be in the midst of one but I'm not sure.
Sounds like it to me Nina 79- hope your LO finishes his 'spurt' soon. Mind you, my Eloise still only has two hours between some feeds and she's 6 weeks old nearly. During weeks two and three she would often feed on and off for 5-6 hours. Its exhausting but very normal - our babies way of getting our supply up and making sure supply is resillient. I've been assured that things get much easier from week six - so here's hoping :fingerscrossed:
My_lot - wow, what a story - I'm so glad that everything worked out. I'm completely with you on the CPR issue - its scary how few people know what to do in an emergency with their own bubs.
Animals - I have two lovely fur babies (cats). I'm just about to set up a photobucket account so that I can post pics of them and my fur free baby, lol. Has anyone found that their feelings towards their pets have changed since bub came along?? I sound horrible but I do find mine a worry sometimes - keeping them away from bub and keeping everything clean etc.
Just want to offload about my ils - here from the UK for another two weeks and staying with us in our little unit - too close for comfort. They are driving me MAD!! I sent them out today to go shopping so I could have some time alone. They really are no help anyway because I'm bfeeding and Eloise has been a grump so I'm the only one who can comfort her. I wish they would go home.
anyway must go - grumpy pants is awake again!
Just a quick visit from the Jan thread. Thanks to Nina and Ziggy for meeting us Jan brisbane mums on friday. We would definitely like to make it a regular thing each month and would love to welcome other Brisbane mums too!
Probably after the easter hols would be good for next meet!
Ruby_Slippers – All your kids are just gorgeous!!!
Mum’s_Lil_Punk - J I liked the squirting of the booby juice – perhaps l aught to try that – DH used to do the first night feed, but apparently as of last night he has taken himself off night duty on the basis that l can sleep during the day and he can’t… okay l would like to see him try that – l also got into trouble about treating his family differently to the way l treat mine – apparently something l did awhile ago… when l got ****ed off with his mum for waking and playing with our sleepy baby (and then was up with him till 2.30 trying to settle)… well l had my family over for mums b’day and they all took turns holding him – and l admit l did realize that he was probably getting over stimulated and once l did l put a stop to passing him round like pass the parcel… but anyway DH cracked it with me – he’s feeling a bit under the weather so l guess that made it worse, but l felt like screaming at him that l have been fighting off a sore throat since Christmas when his grandmother came round sick, plus my a** hurts, my neck’s playing up and l’m feeling unattractive (not to mention leaking from everywhere)… so what if his nose is blocked!!! We were supposed to go out for a romantic dinner tonight but when l suggested perhaps we shouldn’t go he said okay – so when he rang today l told him he can cancel – but then l had to explain to my mum that we no longer needed her for babysitting duties… and well now she thinks DH is in the ****s with her and that l am just trying to protect her. (sorry for the whinge). One last whinge l promise – he also doesn’t acknowledge that l am stuck in this house all day long – l can’t even go for a walk – he doesn’t know what that is like – its bloody annoying – even if l didn’t go anywhere, the fact that l can’t drives me insane – l think l am going to grab a few pillows and try and drive this afternoon (just to the shops – 5 min.)!!
Cats&kid -- big hugs 2 you, it sounds like you have been through the ringer… as for sleeping we’re probably the opposite, 1-1.5 hrs awake in every 4 during the night..
My_lot - l am in awe… l don’t know how you are keeping up w everything and 4 kids and still find time 2 post…any tips??? Btw photo of your l’il one “helping” w the washing is v. cute… love the photos w the cat too, l think its great to have pets in their lives early on.. l miss having a dog around, DH is not quite anti-pet but might as well be, he thinks they have a place and that’s outside… l don’t know if l could have a dog like that…
OMG – that is an awful story about DD1 and the reflux, thank goodness you checked on her – oh l had chills up and down my spine and said a prayer for everyone of our little ones when l read your post (and went to check on my sleeping baby)– that is sooooo scary – l am surprised you slept at all after that. Thank-you for sharing it – thankfully Coen doesn’t really throw up very often but it is definitely worth sharing your experience
Nomorescuba - congrats on the successful expressing, l find Coen eats a bit more when it is expressed – which I s a good thing cos he normally falls asleep at the breast before having his fill… which means a shorter time btwn feeds… this is one of the reasons we had his first night feed as expressed w a top up if necessary
Penny – thanks 4 the thought (the lift 2 our melb. Meet) – l am hoping l will be able to drive by then – l am just not sure if l will be able to drive that distance – but l have my fingers crossed – l would love to meet up with you all…
Hels*Bels – Sorry to hear about your tear possibly being infected… when did it start to act up, or did it never feel quite right? You poor thing, hopefully the OB gets you sorted ASAP
Welcome back Shajake!
Squiggles – your pets are gorgeous… now l really am jealous of all you women w animals, l really do miss it! We’d love to have you in melb. too, let us know when you’re planning on popping over…
Nina_79 – Good tip re. the expressing, l must admit though l was trying to picture it and couldn’t see how it was possible until l read electric pump… but l might see if l can somehow juggle it w my manual one. Coen has had a couple of evenings where we have done 1 or 1.5 hour feeds… l try to stretch them out to 2 hours now…how long are Ryan’s feeds?
i have just fed the l'il man... l think l am going to try to venture out... :fingerscrossed: wish me luck
Well, I think I've just unsuccessfully taken my son for his first ever Pixie Photo experience. My little darling just layed there with this god-awful frown on his face... he was not impressed at all !! All we wanted was a smile or a neutral face expression... but no. We tried everything we could think of.
The only time his face expression changed was when he went from a frown to screaming his little head off. Even a quick feed didin't make him happy.
At worst, the most that the photo session has cost me is $5.00.. so it's not like I've wasted a lot of money at least, but it would have been nice to get a good photo of him while he is so young.
We now have to wait two weeks to see how the photos have turned out... maybe there will be just one good one !! :fingerscrossed:
*Sparkles*
19-03-2007, 14:04
Well it's not good news, I just got home from my OB appt and I have an abcess "down there". It's quite serious and I have to go into hospital and have surgery tonight :eek:
They will put me out with a general so I have to stay in overnight. Thankfully my parents are still here (to look after Reece) and DH has come home from work, he will take tomorrow off aswell. I am paying to go privately this time and the OB said he will tidy everything up down there at the same time to make me as close to normal as possible, so that will be good.
Anyway, I've got to pack my overnight bag now so I'd better go, so wish me luck! :fingerscrossed: I'll be back in here when I am feeling well enough.
Hels- OMG OMG i hope your ok!!! Thats terrible hun, geez no wonder you've been in agony for so long. You poor thing. I hope it all goes well for you and that it heals up nicely (eewww does that sound bad- sorry if it does). I cant even imagine how you are feeling right now. Here have some of these:hugs::hugs:.
icugal- lol at your lil man. Sorry to laugh but i used to do photography and the amount of times this would happen is incredible. It used to crack me up. I'd spend hours getting the studio ready, lighting, props etc, welcome the parents, fuss over the baby and then BAM!!!! Your either met with an insolent little facial expression or the loudest yelling. Sorry mate- but i gotta laugh at that one.
welcome back Shajake and cats&kids!- good to see you guys back!
Nina- oh YES the 3 week growth spurt is very bl00dy real! I dont doubt that you are spending all day with a baby attatched to your boob! They sure knowwhat they want hey. Try not to stress too much as it does pass in a few days and then they put you in a false sense of security and the 6 week one hits you. Good luck!
Me-well im having the day from hell! Cody is fine but its the other three i have home today. DS1 has an ear infection so ive kept him home today. HUUUUUUUUUUUGE mistake! He is currently kamakaze rolling off the coffee table onto the lounge( not displaying the behaviour of the sick at all), hence teaching the younger ones how to attempt a heomatoma of the forehead!He has also taught DD1, whose 2, how to jump off the top bunk onto the bottom bunk! Oh i feel a broken arm or leg coming on. Or worse! All they have done is fight, trash the house and create a cr@p load of work! Gee, he's going to school tomorrow thats for sure! They're doing my head in! I guess it doesnt help that DH is on a course and hour and a half away so he wont be home till way past their bed times for three days. Gee that turned into a vent-sorry it wasnt intended to be.
Ok, well they are killing each other so i'd better go- have a great day everyone!
:hugs: Hels.. good luck mate... hope the surgery goes well and that you heal fast. We'll be thinking of you and look forward to your return.
What is it with our group?? Between us all, we seem to have so many post-natal complications..
SuperFrog
19-03-2007, 14:52
Hels - no wonder you have been so sore. At least something is being done about it now. Wishing you all the best and a speedy recovery.
Must say my best purchase was the cat cover for the cot. It gives me total peace of mind as neither cat has managed to get into it and we can't lock them out of the bedroom as their tray is in the ensuit.
What does a cat cover look like and how does it work? We were looking for solutions to our cat fears before Liam was born but I hadn't heard of this.
Took me a while to catch up on all the posts. Geez we can talk huh?
I seem to recall that there were a lot of Feb mums with red hair out there. Did anyone have a baby with red hair? Liam has auburn coloured hair at the moment (definitely not ginger red, but not blond either). But I think it is starting to fall out now. Wonder what colour his hair will be when he is older?
Would write more but I think I might use the time to catch a snooze on the couch while Liam is asleep. I've probably just jinxed myself and he'll wake up any second...
Hi Ladies :wave:
So much to catch up on....didn't get a chance over the weekend.
I had the weekend from hell. My DH just wanted to "play" with Jack all weekend as he didn't get to see him much as he's back at work so we ended up with a very overtired baby and a very cranky me.
Hope everyone is well....welcome back to all the ladies who have joined us again
I have a couple of questions.......does anyone only just bleed when breastfeeding?
AND Jack is now sometimes going for 5 hours between feeds during the day....Is that ok? I don't want to force him to eat if he's still full (I have lots and lots of milk) He's still having lots of dirty/wet nappies
Better go he's grizzling..........
hey guys
ok i am going to try and catch up a bit since i havent had a chance over the last few days!! Cassidy is asleep (n my arms, so typing could become an issue!)
thanks for the advice in regards to DPs ex - i have told her that i dont need to share thu kind of personal information with her as it has nothing to do with her. I think she was a bit annoyed but too bad really.
about the melbourne meetup - i am really looking forward to it, means some kind of normality by meeting up with adults!! As for the time i think we agreed on 2pm, i may need to make it 230 as i have a CHN appt to have Cassidy weighed and measured at 130 that afternoon, is that ok?? i totally forgot about it!! Let me know if its not, i can reschedule the appointment!
In regards to going back to work i will be starting work from home in the next few weeks as a consultant which is going to be great, as i will get to be home with Cassidy. Dont know how i am going to manage yet. For anyone else who works from home, how have you coped? or plan to cope? lol
Leashie - glad to hear you have recovered from your drinking experiece. I havent yet drank much really, a few light beers here and there but would really love a few bourbon and cokes!
about Pets my two "girls", my cats, seem to be coping pretty well with Cassidy, the older one doesnt seem to care that she is around and stays out of her way. The younger one is curious but when Cassidy moves she bolts and hides! I dont think that i would leave them in a room alone with Cassidy just because you never know what may happen, but i still love them. I have found that i do treat them differently since i have had Cassidy tho. I dont know why.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p46/juzz01/P1000174.jpg
the one on the left is the younger one, named Kaos, the elder one on the right is Cappy. My furbabies!
penny - i thought i was going crazy the other day when it occured to me that i miss being pregnant and actually wouldnt mind being pregnant again as soon as possible. Glad i am not the only one. I am in the same boat tho, because of the ceasar we are also waiting until the end of the year to try again. DP wants to have all his kids before he is 30, so i have got 6 years to have all my babies.... apparently.... And sorry to hear about your attempt at pixie photos. Hopefully you get at least one photo out of the whole thing!
squiggles - your tear sounds horrible! I hope it starts to heal up for you as soon as possible. It sounds dreadful.
Roopee - your afternoon at the beach sounds great! I would kill to get out of the house right now! Sorry to hear that ur older kids are being monsters! So much for the ear ache hey
Hels - thanks for organising the melb meet btw, ur a champ! OMG no wonder you have been in pain for so long! I hope everything works out for you and good luck with the surgery.
my_lot what a scary experience to go thru! i am glad to hear that your little one is ok! Thankfully you walked in at the right time. Now i am glad i regularly check on Cassidy. DP can never call me silly again
sandy i know what ur saying about partners and taking themselves off night duty. DP has done the same to me for the same reason. But the problem is that if i sleep during the day when Cassidy does i dont get anything else done. So then when it comes to dinner time DP complains that there are no clean dishes or his clothes havent been washed or the rubbish hasnt been taken out.... etc etc etc. As for bubs being handed around, good on you for taking a stand. I did this long ago and am continuing to do it. DPs mum was here yesterday and wanted me to wake Cassidy up just so she could have a cuddle. I was like no way! So she sat patiently beside her until she stirred awake some 2 hours later!!! And i know about the being stuck inside thing... its driving me insane as well! i dont know how much more i can really take. Its getting to the point that i am getting teary as i dont get to go shopping or anything! At least DP gets to leave the house on a daily basis, even if it is just to go to work.
Shajake - did you get the detials about the Melb meetup?
superfrog - im one of those red heads... but no Cassidy has brown hair at the moment
As for all the post natal complications.... at least we got beautiful bubbas!!
As for me not much to say really. Starting to feel a bit depressed from being inside all the time, i dont feel like i can manage to get out by myself (well kinda by myself anyway, Cassidy would be with me). Even going out with DP doesnt cut it, i want to have some (kind of) me time that doenst involve being at home. I have been so snappy and moody at DP the last few days i dont know how he hasnt just walked out on me. I really feel at the moment that we need to have a few days apart or something so i am planning to go visit my mum for a few nights probably later in the week. I have also had a reoccurance of mastitis so i havent been feeling the best in that department either. I have had a headache for three days from it!
Its like, just when i think everything is going ok (ie, breastfeeding) something happens to screw it all up again.
anyway sorry to turn it into a pity post.
i must be off, i hope everyone is well.... good luck again to Hels.
Sorry to double post but it took me soooo long to write the first one there were more replies after
Hels - BIG :hugs: Hope you recover well......You must have been in some pain OUCH!!!
My boy won't sleep and as I type this I can hear massive farts coming from his room :laughing:
Better go!
Roopee.. sounds like you've got your hands full today !! Makes me thankful I just have one child at the moment !! *LOL*
And feel free to laugh about my photo-shy son... I think it's just Murphy's Law !! (and maybe the fact that he's only 7 weeks old and not able to follow commands :) )
I seem to recall that there were a lot of Feb mums with red hair out there. Did anyone have a baby with red hair? Liam has auburn coloured hair at the moment (definitely not ginger red, but not blond either). But I think it is starting to fall out now. Wonder what colour his hair will be when he is older?
I don't have red hair... and my DF doesn't have red hair.. and yet our son does !! Apparently DF and I both had relatives with red hair a few generations back, so obviously the recessive genes have united somewhere along the line to produce Kaelan. I never ever expected in a million years that I would have a red haired baby.
Lauren... while I was expressing and/or breastfeeding, my loss was quite heavy (and I'd get a bit of a gush whilst actually doing it). Almost immediately after I stopped expressing though, the amount of blood dropped right off... until I got my period of course :banghead:
Juzzy... Your cats are gorgeous !! I wish I had a cat, but DF thinks my two dogs are enough for the moment (actually if I had my way, I'd also be buying more guinea pigs... I love them *LOL*).
Looking forward to the Melbourne meet-up. 2:30pm is fine by me. I'm wondering how long it will take me to drive there from Craigieburn (I'm thinking 60-90 minutes)... so not sure what time I'll have to leave home to get there on time. If I am late (or early), then you girls will know why :)
As for going out Juzzy, could you take Cassidy for a walk in the pram?? I know it's not much but it would get you out of the house for a little bit. As someone who also had a caesar... I can totally relate to you (I'm lucky that I've got my wheels back now).
Am I the only one with a stubborn child ???? (must be that red hair *LOL*). Dressing K is such a nightmare. He does not stop wriggling and when I want his arms/legs bent, he straightens them out so stiff (I feel like I'm going to break his bones). And of course, when I want his arms/leg straight.. he bends them. What's he going to be like when he is two?? :eek:
Also, do your babies joints crack?? Kaelan's joints often crack when I pick him up and it sounds awful... he doesn't seem to be in any pain though. Should I get that checked?? (*note to self, make appointment for belated six week checkup*)
Hi guys i can get 2 posts in one day yippy havent done that in a while.
HELS i hope everything goes well u poor thing.
NINA marissa never had a 3 week spurt but she is making up for it now she has been sooooo unsettled and DS has been playing up to the point that i nearly lose it at him thank god for school.
ROOPEE sounds like it was something in the water today for over over hypo kids i really feel for you i got the nine till three break and i still smoked nearly half a packet of smokes (exaduration).
ICUGAL im sorry Kaelan didn't smile for you its so hard when there that little. I had them done with DS when he was a bub but i got a good sleeping one as he was the same as kaelan i'm waiting till marissa is 3 month to get them this time.
I cant remember who asked about the red hair but i have a deep red (not orange) and marissa has got red/brown but it could change it has been getting darker.
LMENZ 5 hours is fine thats good i no its hard to tell how many mls they get on the booby but i no that with FF as long as they have 5 or more bottles in a 24 hour peried they can sleep for as long as they want marissa went 8 hours one night and every day she has one big sleep per day (between 5 and 7 hours) not latly but.
Anyway im going to put my little :devil6: to bed yippy.
:wave: hi everyone :wave:
my little boy is 6 weeks! hasnt it gone fast! we sat tonight looking at the kids birth and newborn pics..
and found one of my 4 yr old son when he was 3 weeks old- and Eli in the same position at 3 days old- both doing the wink!
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/boys.jpg
leashie- i PMd you
:fingerscrossed: hells is ok
roopee- i got to say- at least you kept cooper home for a good reason! last week after a few **** nights sleep i woke feeling very hungover...my friend came over to take the girls to school.. i asked dd1 if shed like to stay home to play with ds so i could have a sleep..so friend took dd2....... i got to 10 am and drove dd1s hyper @ss to school!! she just hyped up ds! never again! better off having a few strong coffees! dont know what reason she gave the school for being late LOL :fingerscrossed: we dont get docs calling round!
icugal- wait til you get the crying SANTA photos!
juzzy- im hearing you! go to your mums and have a few days R&R. sometimes a bit of time apart can help. ive struggled with my relationship with every baby in the first 6 weeks. it really is the hardest time. it will get easier..(i keep reminding myself)
now im sitting here waiting for the little bugger to wake..i know if i go to bed he will wake up just as i get comfy.
dps knee was so huge when he woke up this morning...he worked.all day. but came home twice for ice packs! hes gone to bed early again....hhhm another early night for him!
Cats&Kid
20-03-2007, 00:02
Hi all,
Hels: You poor thing! Hope all went well last night!:hugs:
Loving the pet photos!
SuperFrog: I've a photo of the cat cover on the cot on our web site, it also shows my 2 fur babies. www.garetech.com.au/baby.html
I'd inundate everyone with more photos of them if I knew how DP had posted them to the web site. There's lots of photos of Matthew - please excuse the blurred ones, DP is so in love he thinks even the blurred ones are wonderful :)
my_lot: thanks for the wise words - I really do hope things start getting better......soon.
harleyq: Do hope you made it to the shops - not fun being stuck inside all the time.
Sassi: Really looking forward to our outing to the botanical gardens soon :hugs:
Hope everyone is fast asleep and having a good night. My bub is coming up to the 4 week mark and is really restless. We've had a dreadfully unsettled day today. Have to go... HRH is up again :)
Love to all xxxxx
In regards to going back to work i will be starting work from home in the next few weeks as a consultant which is going to be great, as i will get to be home with Cassidy. Dont know how i am going to manage yet. For anyone else who works from home, how have you coped? or plan to cope? lol
I'm working from home ATM and it's pretty hard...... As soon as Jack goes down I scurry around trying to get my work done. I'm hoping it will get easier
Lauren... while I was expressing and/or breastfeeding, my loss was quite heavy (and I'd get a bit of a gush whilst actually doing it). Almost immediately after I stopped expressing though, the amount of blood dropped right off... until I got my period of course
Am I the only one with a stubborn child ???? (must be that red hair *LOL*). Dressing K is such a nightmare. He does not stop wriggling and when I want his arms/legs bent, he straightens them out so stiff (I feel like I'm going to break his bones). And of course, when I want his arms/leg straight.. he bends them. What's he going to be like when he is two?? :eek:
Also, do your babies joints crack?? Kaelan's joints often crack when I pick him up and it sounds awful... he doesn't seem to be in any pain though. Should I get that checked?? (*note to self, make appointment for belated six week checkup*)
Thanks for the bleeding info and NO your not the only one.....Jack is exactly the same as Kaelan (I'm pretty stubborn myself).....He also hates to be wrapped but constanly wakes himself up if he isn't. When we wrap him he screams and squirms until we unwrap him and then he falls asleep..Once he's asleep we wrap him. Bl**dy exhausting!
Jack's joints crack quiet a bit too....he doesn't seem bothered by it
LMENZ 5 hours is fine thats good i no its hard to tell how many mls they get on the booby but i no that with FF as long as they have 5 or more bottles in a 24 hour peried they can sleep for as long as they want marissa went 8 hours one night and every day she has one big sleep per day (between 5 and 7 hours) not latly but.
Thanks Leashie....It's hard not to worry about these things :)
Superfrog - Jack has the same bonds outfit that Liam has on in your avatar...it's so cute!
Squiggles - I laughed when you said you dress Conner and then take a photo of him......I do the same!! I'm obsessed with matching his outfits and blankets etc....My DH thinks I'm a looney
Anyone else still leaking between feeds? I'm hoping it will settle down soon. I leak a bit too sometimes when Jack cries :eek:
Well it's pouring with rain in Melbourne.... Jack's almost alseep which means I can have a shower soon :D
NoMoreScuba
20-03-2007, 07:43
Morning all,
Hels, I hope everything went well for you last night...what a horrible experience :hugs:
Sassi & Cats&Kid - I'd love to join you in the botanic gardens. I'm not sure though cause i'm in dee why so i guess i'd get the bus in...can you let me know details when you've got something arranged and i'll see if i'm feeling brave :D
my_lot - i seem to spend a lot of time waiting for charlie to wake up as well! Even when i do get him to sleep i find it impossible to relax because i'm just waiting for him to wake up...it's so annoying. I wish i could sleep during the day... :banghead:
icugal - charlie also HATES being dressed or undressed, and yes, his shoulders crack all the time, it freaks me out!
juzzy, hope you're feeling ok today - sorry to hear you've been hit by the mastitis again. I hope you have a nice time at your mum's - it'll be good to be looked after for a few days :yelclap:
LMenz - I wish charlie would go 5 hours between feeds during the day! He does at night, but in the day has started feeding more like every 2...
Well, we had a pretty horrible day yesterday, charlie was very unsettled all day. He finally had a big sleep late afternoon, and then of course didn't want to sleep last night!
Can I just ask for those of you giving your babies bottles (of EBM or formula) - how much do they take for a feed? Last night charlie drank 160ml and it still didn't knock him out, but i read that between 4 and 12 weeks they usually drink between 120 and 150ml... Maybe he'd had a couple of smaller breastfeeds in the day so wanted to make up for it?
Have a lovely day everybody...
Only me again.....RE: Melbourne meet at Juzzy's. Is it still on now that Hels is in hospital?
I really want to come but feel a bit unsure about driving that far with Jack. I only got my license when I was 30 weeks pregnant (my dirty little secret is out :laughing: )
Penny - Which way are you going to get there? Nepean HWY or South Eastern?
in regards to the melb meet...
well we all want hels to be involved... maybe we should postpone until she is back on her feet again? i dont mind, im pretty flexible
what does all the other melb mummies think?
*****nigel enters the room****
do any of the brissy mummas remember when the baby expo is on?
hello all!!
well I have been away for a couple of days and just trying to catch up with everything!!
sassi, catsnkids & scuba - I would be up for a sydney meet also. I am in the hills area so the botanic gardens are a bit of a hike but I am happy to brave a train or maybe drive.
nina - My bub went through a week (when she was 2-3 weeks old) of feeding every hour in the evening between 5-10, totally killed my nipples but she would then sleep for 5-6 hours so I didnt mind. It was like she was stocking up for a good sleep!
Lmenz - I still leak between feeds, have gone through so many boxes of breast pads its ridiculous.
Well we had our first trip away on the weekend, we went up to newcastle to visit my brother and sister and law and their 3 kids, their youngest is only 2 months older than Olivia which is nice but god it was tiring! Their oldest is autistic and 4 kids made it a very noisy household. I have to say it was so beautiful how the 2 older boys were with their cousin. They are 2 and 4 and they were just fascinated, they were constantly wanting to kiss her head and stroke her and cuddle her. When she was sleeping we had to take them into the bedroom so they could look at her.....so sweet.
Our little angel was a terror though, she slept pretty much constantly during the day and then not at all at night, me and DF were up for 4-5 hours each night night taking turns trying to settle her. So we got maybe 2-3 hours sleep each night and we are both a bit sick now. Im glad we survived it though and it was nice to be home last night. She was an angel and went straight to sleep after feeding so I managed to catch up a bit.
Were were not sure whether to bring formula or not with us (my safety net) in case something went wrong with BFing and we ended up not. Had a nightmare couple of feeds but ended up breastfeeding exclusively for 3 whole days which is a massive achievement for me.
She also had her first really explosive poo - after going 5 days with nothing waited til she was in her car seat and it went everywhere....:rolleyes:
AND I got my first proper smile!!! She has done little half smiles before but I was talking to her after a feed and she gave me this huge gummy grin......so beautiful.
Have a great day everyone:)
I'm in agreeance with Juzzy. Hels was the one to organise the coffee meet, so we'll just wait for her to be back on her feet again. If she's fine by the 29th, then so be it... if not, we can wait a little longer :)
If all else fails, there should still be a bigger Melbourne meet at the end of April sometime in the city right?
Lauren.... I haven't really looked into it properly yet, but I only know one way to Frankston and that's down Springvale Rd (I used to go that way from Ringwood). So I probably would have taken the long, long way (via the Ring Road to Greensborough, through Templestowe and onto Springvale Rd from it's inception). I'm very bad with finding my way around Melbourne and usually stick to roads I know. Having said that though, I do have a GPS (Navman) that I could use. The southern and western sides of Melbourne are my weakness... Give me the eastern suburbs any day !! :)
I'm very relieved to hear that other babies 'crack' too. I've been waiting for my six week appointment (dammit, I must make that appointment... I keep forgetting) to get it checked out as it is probably the only thing I was starting to get a bit concerned with.
What a cr@p start to the day.. I let my dogs outside to do their thang... and it's obviously been raining outside so their paws got completely caked with mud from our un-landscaped backyard. And when I mean caked... the dogs got to the point where they just stopped where they were because they could not walk anymore. I've just spent twenty minutes trying to figure out how I was going to get them clean enough to get them back inside...
Of course while this is going on, the baby is crying and my mobile phone is beeping constantly to tell me that the battery is about to go flat.... and I walk into the laundry to get a bucket, and their is dog sh!t everywhere !! :banghead:
Anyways, the dogs paws are now mostly clean, though there is still alot of mud through the house. Thankfully for me, we have tiled right through the main living areas of the house (only have carpet in bedrooms behind doors that can be shut), so though it is inconvenient, it is a relatively easy clean-up.
Dogs, gotta love them :)
Hello lovely ladies how was everyones night? Mine was great bub had her last feed at 8pm and fell asleep at 9:30 in bed with DP in a bomarang pillow and when i went to bed after doing washing and dishes and folding and bottles they looked so cute that i left her there and she sleep all night till 6:30am :eek: when DP got up for work lets hope that it stays like this.:fingerscrossed: (in my dreams).
NOMORESCUBA Marissa is FF and has between 120mls and 150mls every 3 1/2 to 4 hours.
SHELBY the first smile is wonderful isn't it.
Hope HELS is ok.
Will try and do another post later so i will catch up then.
c-ya:wave:
Hels - oh you poor thing, l hope the operation went well and that you have a speedy recovery!
Roopee - Hope your day got better, or failing that, that today is better and your little darlings are in fact angels for the day...
I have a couple of questions.......does anyone only just bleed when breastfeeding?...
Yes Lauren, l find l bleed more when l am breastfeeding, apparently breastfeeding helps the uterus return to its normal size faster, so its your uterus contracting that is causing the blood loss... when l first started bfing l could actually feel my uterus contracting, it was wierd, now sometimes l feel like l have the mildest period cramps or nothing... l guess its petering out - or at least l hope so...
... sandy i know what ur saying about partners and taking themselves off night duty. DP has done the same to me for the same reason. But the problem is that if i sleep during the day when Cassidy does i dont get anything else done. So then when it comes to dinner time DP complains that there are no clean dishes or his clothes havent been washed or the rubbish hasnt been taken out.... etc etc etc. As for bubs being handed around, good on you for taking a stand. I did this long ago and am continuing to do it. DPs mum was here yesterday and wanted me to wake Cassidy up just so she could have a cuddle. I was like no way! So she sat patiently beside her until she stirred awake some 2 hours later!!! And i know about the being stuck inside thing... its driving me insane as well! i dont know how much more i can really take. Its getting to the point that i am getting teary as i dont get to go shopping or anything! At least DP gets to leave the house on a daily basis, even if it is just to go to work.
DH is back on night duty again, he came home from work shame faced (l gave him the cold sholder when he rang during the day) - we talked it through, l told him l had tried to sleep when Coen did, but each time l did he had a micro sleep so just as l was drifting off he would wake up (little bugger, each time l didn't nap with him he would sleep for longer)!!!
Juzzy - even my brief sojourn to the shops was relief - getting out of the house is wonderful for the morale... l am going to try doing longer and longer drives to build up to getting to your place for he Melb. get together...
oh and by the way2.30 is fine by me for the Melb. meetup, btw l went for my first drive (5 min.) yesterday, it really wasn't too bad, getting in and out is the worst bit...
Okay for some advice... as l said l went out yesterday, just to get some groceries, l was really nervous, l packed Coen into the capsule and we headed off... l took my ergo (baby carrier) just in case the supermarket didn't have trolleys with infant seats, but they did so l was lucky.. the shopping expedition went pretty well, but when l went to put everything back in the car l was unsure how to go about it, so l put Coen in the car, turned the car on cos it was hot (air con)unloaded the groceries, then l had to do something with the trolley and wasn't going to leave Coen in car by himself, so took him out of the capsule returned trolley and then put him back in... there has to be a better way, but l was nervous about unpacking groceries with Coen in trolley, what if it rolled etc??? WHat do others do? (I feel really stupid!!!)
EskimoMumma
20-03-2007, 13:03
Oh id love to split night duty. Unfortnuatly I'm doing it on my owna lot of the time. DP works graveyard shifts :o So thankfully i get a few hrs int he morning or evening to do my cleaning or bubhubbing(or during the day when the girls nap at the same time and im done cleaning) and he spends that time iwth them. Is hard when DP has to sleep during the day and then work at night.
Shelby - Well Done on the breastfeeding!! I've actually enjoyed a few feeds lately something I thought would never happen.....it really is about persistance isn't it?
Harleyq - I haven't even attempted to do the shopping with Jack....we've only done a few small trips out. When my DH gets home after Jack's feed I will do the shopping on my own. If it was me though I'd probably just dump the trolly near the car.....:shame: Probably not the best solution but I'd be worried he would wake up. Hopefully someone else can shed some light
RE: Night shift...I'm doing it on my own too BUT Jack is now sleeping for between 5-7 hours at night and he just goes straight down - I don't even have to settle him. The thing I'm finding the hardest is getting myself back to sleep after I have fed him. Anyone else having trouble? Maybe some rocking and shhhing might help :laughing:
HARLEYQ RE:Shopping i have a baby sling that i keep bub in. But if u dont have one try and park right next to a trolley bay.
brisbabydreamer
20-03-2007, 14:57
HI ladies!
I am a February Mum also and am new to bubhub! Is it ok if I join this group?:wave:
*Sparkles*
20-03-2007, 15:41
Hi Ladies :wave:
Just a quickie to say I'm still alive and kicking lol. The surgery went well, I came home this morning so now I am resting. They said the abcess was the size of a golf ball :eek: I am still very sore, it feels like I did after giving birth but should heal within a few days :fingerscrossed:
I was told that if I want anymore babies I would need a caesar next time, but that's fine with me!!
Thanks for all your kind thoughts. I bounce back pretty well so I should still be able to make the meet on the 29th and 2.30pm is fine Juzzy.
Will catch up with all posts later.
Hels :)
brisbabydreamer - Welcome to our humble home !!! Of course it is ok for you to join.. the more, the merrier !! Make yourself comfortable :)
So tell us a bit about yourself and your bub..
(For the record, I'm Penny and I have a seven week old son named Kaelan. He was due on the 14th Feb, but actually arrived in January after induction/caesar. Even though my bub came in Jan, I've stuck with the Feb group, because I've been with these girls since the day I got my BFP. They're a great bunch here.. you'll love 'em :) )
So, I've just come back from my first ever Mothers Group which was nice. It's lovely to meet other mum's with young bubs (ages ranged from 4-12 weeks) who can share their similiar experiences... because it makes you realise just how normal you are. Thankfully all the babies took their turns to be unsettled, so no individual mother had to feel bad about having the noisy child !! *LOL* Most of the girls seem to be in their mid to late 20's, but there was one other mum slightly older than me.. yay !! (I didn't want to be the grandmother of the group ;) ). It was just so good to socialise with other people... I'm a long way from friends and family here in Craigieburn so I feel quite isolated most of the time (but also thankgod for BubHub !!).
Might also just mention that my gorgeous little man is seven weeks old today...
Hels - Good to hear everything went well... I was thinking of you lastnight, wondering how you were going. Hope you make a fast recovery now that the abscess has gone (that must have been so painful, you poor thing).
And I highly recommend the whole caesar thing... no-one could ever pay me enough money to go through with a vaginal birth now... :)
Hi and welcome BrisBabyDreamer you will love it here and it is very addictive. So you have to give us details of you and your little one. Where abouts in brisbane are you.
Hels :eek: omg omg you poor thing no wonder u where in pain :hugs: for you. I hope your feeling better soon and hope reece is an angel for you.
Butterfly mumma - sounds like you are doing really well. i'm sorry i dont have any real answers for you. if you dont have a good GP then why dont you try your local child health office - they have been pretty helpful to me. Or you can always call the 24hr parenting hotline (07) 38622333.
Sorry no other personals today.
I thought it is suppose to get easier after 6 weeks - well not in this house...
I am finding coping with the reflux really hard. none of my friends/family seem to think it is a problem becuase they often see her sleeping but it is the feeding that is a nightmare!! i think i may be on the way to PND. :no:
We had a day stay at child health today and of course had 2 of the best feeds ever while there. since 3 pm when we got home she has not relaxed once and cried in pain the whole time. if i crumble and feed her before the 3 hours is up she is quite for 30 minutes and then it starts again but worse.
it is my 8th wedding anniverary tomorrow and it will be the saddest one ever. :crying:
Oh ziggy sending you lots and lots of :hugs:
Don't be sad think of the positives this will be you and hubbys first anniversary together as a mummy and daddy it does get better darl i promise if it is to hard b/f try F/F there are special formulers for reflux (DS had it) and you my find your happier that way and enjoy ur beautiful bubba.
You have tried your hardest and being a first time mum every thing is trial and error so if its not working try something else and NEVER feel gilty for anything you do for ur bub cause everything we do for our kids good and bad (mums are aloud to make mistakes too) we do it out of love.
You are an excellent mum and never doubt it.
That goes for all of you expecially the new mums as us 2,3,4th time mummys have a little bit of experiance and no what to expect.
Out of this whole web sight i have the up most respect for EVERYONE in our little fab feb mummys i have watched each of you grow into great mummys and i now class you as my friends even though we have never meet.
I have talked to u ladies about stuff i don't even talk to my family/friend about.
Thank you all for being there when i needed you.
:ecomcity: :ecomcity: :ecomcity: i'm going on a bit now so thats the end of my sop post have a good night everyone.
Ziggy - You sound like you need a few of these :hugs: :hugs: You are doing such a great job with lily..Your a wonderful mum!! I can only imagine how tough reflux is but it will get better as she gets older. Make sure you keep posting as everyone is here to support you.
Congratulations on your Wedding Anniversay too. 8 years is fantastic :D
Hels - OMG a golf ball!!! You poor thing. Hope your recovering well
BrisBabyDreamer - Welcome :wave: I'm Lauren, my bub is Jack and he's nearly 5 weeks old. Looking forward to getting to know you!
Penny - Sounds like you had a good time at Mother's Group....I'm looking forward to starting mine soon. Well Done on making it to 7 weeks. Is it any easier now?
Ziggy... :hugs: to you. I agree with everything Leahsie said.
I don't believe it... a miracle has occurred. I last fed Kaelan at 1:30am and was put to bed at 2am when DF and I went to bed ourselves. It's now after 8:30am and he is only just starting to stir in his bassinette. It's just a pity that I couldn't have slept as long too :)
:fingerscrossed: that he will continue to sleep through overnight from now on (it's not likely, but one can dream).
We're off to the doctors this morning for our belated six week appointment (even though K is seven weeks now *LOL*)... I finally remembered to make the appointment !! I have a list of things as long as my arm to discuss with my doctor, so I think I'll be getting my money's worth today. I'm also going to see if she'll finally give me the pap smear that I was due for last September (she refused to it while I was pregnant because I'd had unexplained, prolonged bleeding earlier in the pregnancy).
It's quite a trip to see my doctor these days because she is located in Doncaster East which is a good 45 minutes away from here. I guess I could try to find another doctor who is closer to me, but I believe that if you find a good doctor (and she is) then stick with them... have car, will travel
This will the third day that I've gone out with K by myself... I'm becoming and old hand at this now !! ;)
My random though for the day - Does anybody else think that press-studs on baby's clothes are the spawn of Satan?? God, I hate them...
Lauren.. Hiya :wave: we were obviously typing at the same time.
Is it any easier at 7 weeks? Ummm... that's a good question. I guess it's only easier in that I'm better at figuring out why Kaelan is crying these days. Also, he is getting slightly better with settling which is nice (you know that all this will get screwed up by our international travels in a couple of weeks !!).
I think I'm enjoying this whole motherhood thing a little more lately because he is starting to be more interactive with his outside world. Whilst he was so gorgeous as a tiny little newborn (and I do miss him being like that), I get so much pleasure watching him in his electric rocker almost laughing at the animals on the mobile above his head. His little smile just melts my heart... and I look forward so much to watching him grow and develop his personality as the weeks go on.
What does everybody else think?
Butterflymumma
21-03-2007, 09:36
Hey all,
It feels like forever sinse i was on here! How do you ladies manage to post daily? between feeding, playing, settling and catching up on sleep when bubs sleeps- i just dont get much time. I do try to get on here at least once a day to read up on everyones progress but dont get much of a chance to do much more!! Currently fab feb mummies is the only thread i read!!!
okay only a few personals today-
my_lot- That must have been so scary to find your daughter not breathing and limp like that, i think that is every parents worst nightmare! You did so well, and im so glad to hear your little girl got through it. :yelclap:
Hels- :hugs: It sounds like you've been through hell and back!! I Hope things get better really soon im thinking of you!!
Nina- I definitley think the 3 weeks growth spurt is real- Lillyana went through one and i was feeding every 1.5-2 hours which exhausted me beyond belief!!! i hope your little one grows fast and you can go back to a normal feeding routine.
Ziggy- many many :hugs: to you!! I cannot even imagine how hard things are for you at the moment, your Lily sounds like she has reflux a lot worse than my own so i cant offer much more than a shoulder if you need it and a helping hand if you ever want it! i live in Bris too and when all the bris mummies meet up if you need to chat about anything im here for you! Hang in there you are doing a fantastic job, you really are! First time parenting is hard enough without the added stress of reflux. I was worried i might develop PND from being so tired so i can relate to you- feel free to PM me if you ever want to chat about feelings, i wont judge, im kinda drifting in that same boat at the moment.
leashie- what beautiful kind words! i agree with everything you said and definitley feel like the fab feb mummies are my friends too!! Sometimes when i dont get on here for a couple of days i feel like i've had no social life LOL! its a good way to socialise and talk about problems etc without having to go out especially when your confined to the four walls of your house like me due to ceasar!! P.s still want to meet up with all the bris mummies but can we make it for a couple of weeks, i still cant drive for a week and a half!
Brisbabydreamer- Welcome Welcome! I hope you like it here, you will im sure- you're in the best thread on Bub hub now, such strong inspiring women live here!!!
Icugal- I really agree with you about how exciting it is to watch our babies grow from newborns into 1 months- 2 months etc. I am looking forward to the crawling and giggling and talking, it will all be so amazing and makes all the hard days soo soo worth it!!
Animals- Lol one of my dogs is currently sitting on my lap- he is a tenterfield terrior (kinda like a mix of foxie and jack russel) his name is Oakey, he is a true character and LOVES Lillyana! when we say 'where's the baby?' he runs over and licks her footsies! its really cute but i still grab the wet wipes and wipe her feet just incase doggie lick is germy. my other dog is a Chihuahua and 15 years old!! His name is Archie and he is really quite a cutie being so old and still occasionally bounding round the house and playing!! He doesnt pay much attention to Lil, but he did seem a bit scared of her at first. AND..i have a cat too!! Lol, zoo over here! Her name is Holly shes a moggy, and was totally freaked out about Lilly when she came home and when she cries!! She is getting better though!! she sometimes comes over to sniff her! By the way all your animals are soo gorgeous!!! Animals are wonderful arent they! they bring so much happiness!
Well i dont want to jinx myself but for the past 4 or so days Lillyana has been going 3-5 hours between feeds during the day and sometimes at night she goes 6-7!! last night for example she fed at 6.30pm and didnt wake up for another feed until 2.30 am! I hope it lasts! i really do!!
Just a question- to all those expressing, how much hind fatty milk do u usually get per bottle? When i start the milk is slightly cloudy and watery then it slowlty turns white but still kinda watery like skim milk, then if i squeeze and massage my breast i can get a little bit of really white milk like full cream milk but i dont get much. when the bottle has been in the fridge the thick milk sticks to the sides but again its maybe a teaspoon or two. Is that enough?? is the white skim milkish stuff part of the hind milk too?? and what are the rules with sterilizing bottles etc. if you close up all openings of the bottles and breast pump how long does it stay sterilized? and how do you know if your feeding your baby enough?? sometimes i get between 140-200mls from one breast sometimes just 100 mls, i usually give her an average of 120mls, she is just past a month old, how much did you feed your bub at this age?? I just want to see if im even close to average. i fed her 140mls the other day and she drank it all and then projectile vommited everywhere so im not game to try that again. How do i know when she will need more milk?? sometimes she seems like she wants more, but if i give her more she cries like shes got a pain in her tummy- i think due to mild reflux...hmm im so confused!! Any advice would be appreciated!!
Hello to all those i missed! I hope everyone has a really good day!
Take Care
Teags xxx
Hels-Glad you are feeling better- OMG how horrific for you. I doubt anyone could blame you for never wanting a vaginal birth again. You must have been in agony!:hugs:to you.
Ziggy-:wizard: happy anniversary to you. I hope your having a good day. I am so sorry that your going thru this but let em tell you, what your describing sounds very normal. Bringing a baby into your life is a massive adjustment. It affects everything. Your relationship, your sense of self, absolutley everything. As for the reflux, have you tried the food thickener? IT works a treat and you can put it into EBM as well. Its tastless and odourless- if you havnt already, give it a go.
Im going to do a seperate post in a sec on how i felt and what i went thru when i bought my first child home as this may help some of you first time mummies feel better. I have not told ayone about this as i was extremely embarresed and ashamed but it passes and i now know that it was pretty normal.
Brisbabydreamer- WELCOME!! We'd love for you to stay! Im Tanya, and have just had baby number 4. I have DS1-6, DS2-4, DD1-2 and DD2-6weeks.
icugal and butterflymumma- congrats on your good sleepers- thats great!:yelclap:
Press studs-well yeah i agree but buttons are worse. Theres nothing worse that trying to get a squirming baby to stay still long enough to get them done up! Especially when they are so conveniently located DOWN THE BACK OF THE CLOTHES:no:.
Im doing ok, Cody is sleeping pretty well most nights but looking after 4 kids is tiring.People tell me i look well but i feel like sh!t somedays. I just want to go to bed and sleep and then when i do i feel guilty that i should be doing the housework so i get up again. My DH isnt much help most of the time so i feel like im going it alone. Its not a nice feeling but hey, he's good with the kids so i cant really complain can i. Some help around here would be nice though. I tried to tell him that i would like someone to come in and do the ironing or just clean for 4 hrs every MONTH, you know do the things you dont seem to get time to do? Like the skirting boards and all the stuff but no he told me it was a waste of money. Bet if i requested a mower man he would have been all for it!
Anyway that enough of me- i'll make that extra post now.
SuperFrog
21-03-2007, 10:40
Press studs - I don't have too much trouble with them once I figured out that if you start doing them up from the legs and travel upwards then you don't get as confused and tangled. I've got a lot of Bonds stuff and they seem to use good-quality press studs.
Velcro bibs on the other hand... someone gave us a pack of bibs that do up with the loudest velcro ever! And of course they do up behind Liam's head, right near his ear, making it impossible to get them off him without waking him if he has fallen asleep after his feed. I'm thinking of getting rid of all of them as I keep forgetting and using them. The ones that pull over his head are soooo much better. Don't get me started on the bibs that you have to tie behind their head... too difficult, especially if you only have one hand as the other is holding their head!
How do you guy's find time to do personals?? I usually make time to read the Feb Mummas thread, and sometimes find time to post. But then I get so confused as to who said what. I think I still have preggo brain and can't keep my thoughts straight!
I really hope this helps you guys. Its hard to write and i hope it makes sense.
Here goes......
He was born when i was just 25. I thought i was old enough (actually thought i was getting too old- how naive) to be able to handle it. I had pestered DH for months and months to start TTC and he finally said Ok, thinking, like me that it would take months. We fell pregnant in that first month, which was unbelieveable to me.
I had no dramas in the pregnancy apart from gaining too much weight and morning sickness.
The birth was straight forward, i was 7cm dilated when i arrived and he was born 4 hrs later-no drugs, no stitches and he weighed in at a hefty 9pd 4oz.
Heres where it starts to get interesting.
I really did not want to B/F. The thought of it made me ill BUT there was so much pressure that i felt like i had to. I didnt feel like i had a choice. My Dh had put a massive amount of pressure on me to do it and the midwifes well, i still think that most of them were Satans children. They were horrible. So needless to say my B/f experience started out bad and got worse from there. On day three i had listened to Cooper cry and cry for days, the midwives treated me as if i had the plague (i had made the fatal mistake of expressing my feelings to one, who clearly wasnt impressed, and decided to share it with the rest of them) and Dh didnt understand why i just couldnt put Cooper onto my breast and smile. Instead i was crying, my nipples were infected and torn to shreds and i had no milk. Cooper was starving and i was feeling so so guilty. I couldnt even get that right.
I left there after 4 of the longest days of my life but i felt like that hospital was toxic.
As i was walking out with my screaming child all i could think was i wonder if anyone would notice if i left him in the nursery and went home without him.
Its not that i didnt want him, i loved him with all my heart but i was tired and i felt like i was doing him more harm than good- i couldnt even feed him.
I told DH to stop at the chemist on the way home so i could get some formula and bottles to comp feed but he wouldnt do it! It took a long long time for me to forgive him and its one thing that i know i will never forget.
We got home and Cooper had finally fallen asleep so i told DH i was taking the dog for a walk. It was the best thing- i was free, i wasnt pregnant and i didnt have screaming baby attatched to me either.
I thought i was getting PND and in hindsight i probably was a little bit depressed but i was in mourning.
I was mourning my previous life, beig able to go out when i wanted with out thinking of anyone else, my relationship with my DH which was in a very rapid decline, the fact that we were living in a strage place 4 hrs away from any friends or family, my loss of my previous body, i was leaking from anywhere and everywhere and i felt like i just couldnt get it right. I didnt understand why i couldnt do it.
Then people would come and visit-people from Dh's work who i had never met before and really didnt feel like meeting now either but on goes the brave face and the smile and the "oh, yes, everything is fantastic" voice.
I felt like everything was a struggle. I had had no more than an hours sleep at a time for 2 weeks and i was just insanely tired. I knew then, why they use sleep deprivation as a form of torture.
Fast forward to Cooper being 2.5 weeks old and i walked out to Dh after another horrific time trying to feed Cooper, he had sucked on my breast for 1.5 hrs and was still bl00dy hungry, and declared, in tears, baby in my arms and said "i simply can not do this anymore". Dh thought i had meant be a mother but i actually meant B/F. I just simply couldnt go on. I knew i would be on anti depressants before long if i kept at it and i just wanted to enjoy my baby. I handed DH the baby and walked out to buy that formula and bottles. Dh was looking like i had just shot his mother, and after everything he had put me thru in those first weeks i actually got a sick sense of satisfaction from seeing him like that.
After Coopers first bottle, which he drank 160mls he slept for 8 hrs and so did i.
When i woke up i got a lecture from DH telling me how dissappointed in me he was for not trying hard enough, but i didnt care anymore. I had sleep and i had my confidence back. I no longer had to second guess my decisions and i never ever had to put a baby onto my breast again. I knew with all certainty that there was no way, no matter how many children we had, that i was putting any baby of mine or myself thru those horrors again. I was so ecstatic. I had a huge grin from ear to ear and i felt like i was king of the world. Finally i was happy. Finally i could enjoy my baby and more importantly finally my baby could enjoy me.
My Dh was a real pr!ck thru all this and it took a long long time for me to get over it. He would often refuse to fed Cooper as a way of punishing me for not b/f. Sometimes when i think about it i look at Cooper and i could cry at those lost few weeks and then i look at Dh and think "its all your fault" BUT its not. He can say all he wants to me but i didnt have to listen. I could have just said NO but i wanted to do the best for my child and i felt like FF would be evil.
For a while i was ashamed of feeding him formula, but i got over it. My Baby and i had fun together now and thats all that mattered to me.
Even after all that and me very nearly taking my baby and leaving Dh over it he still asks after the births of all the kids if im sure i dont want to try again. I just give him a look and he shuts up!
He will never ever know how damaging his attitude and words were, men simply dont get it and he has never apologised but i have learnt that either i can spend the rest of our lives resenting him for it OR i can accept it and move on and be happy, enjoy my family and accept his other, better qualities.
So all you first time mums, yes, the first few months are hard going but it does pass and if you just be strong and do what is best for YOU and your BABy then you will get thru it.
:hugs: to you all.
EskimoMumma
21-03-2007, 10:56
Oh tanya :hugs: I'm sorry you went through that. I had a pretty horrid experience too but was only mainly pressured by my mum..
Morning all
not much really happening over here today, feeling fairly on top of things actually. And once again have a better perspective about things.
Cassidy is napping so thought i would take the chance to catch up a bit...
babies "cracking" - yeah cassidy does it too... worries me a bit when her joints do it but doesnt seem to bother her at all or give her any pain.
nomorescuba - we have been giving Cassidy both EBM and formula she can take anywhere between 100ml to about 180ml (she is a bit of a pig at times) and that is us giving it to her slowly so she doesnt have too much and throw it all up!
sandy - with the supermarket trolley thing. DP and i have been doing the shopping together, he always tries to get a park near the shopping trolley bays. I would always pack the car and leave cassidy in the seat thing and then take the trolley back and then take her out of the seat and put her in the car. I guess its a comfort thing for me.
brisbabydreamer - welcome to the hub! and congrats on your bubba. Im justine and i have a 4 week old baby named Cassidy who was born on the 16th Feb.
Hels - So glad that everything went well for you with the surgery! What a relief! That is one massive abcess! Hope that the recovery is really quick. Oh and i agree with Penny on the ceasar thing too! Hopefully Reece is a good bubba for you while you recover.penny - i am looking forward to joining my local mothers group as well. Glad to hear you had a good time. glad to hear kaelan slept so long :fingerscrossed: it continues. good luck at the belated 6 week checkup. and yes press studs are the spawn of satan... i am forever cursing them and whoever invented them... cassidy hates them too... squirms like no tomorrow when i am trying to button her up... and they are horrible in the middle of the night when you need to change a nappy and you are barely awake..
Ziggy - hang in there. It will get better. I am struggling along as best i can as well, but i am sure that we can all understand where you are coming from. if u ever need to chat we r all here for you. :hugs: and a big congrats on the wedding anniversary as well.
leashie - totally agree with you!!
tanya - thank you so much for sharing you experience with your first bubba.
I can relate so much to it at the moment as i have been feeling similar. I have been persisting with breast feeding and honestly i do find it a struggle every day. Especially after having mastitis twice now. I have told DP on my occasions that "i cant do it anymore" in regards to bfing. I am serious when i say it. I have started to give Cassidy formula every now and again because of the damage that she has been doing to my nipples. I dont regret this decision. My DP is very similar to yours. He said that he wouldnt forgive me if i formula fed Cassidy. And refused to take me to the supermarket or chemist to buy it. Saying that i would "adjust" and "deal" with breastfeeding. I still hate him for those comments and i will never forget.
When i got mastitis the first time, and i was desperatly sick with a fever and my whole body was shaking i walked into the supermarket myself and bought formula. I wasnt going to keep putting my body thru that much stress. I still have days where i want to fully formula feed Cassidy. I dont know why i dont. DP still pays out on me for feeding her formula but i have been thru so much pain not only bringing Cassidy into the world to start but with mastitis as well i think i have a right in which way i choose to feed her.
I too feel as though i have lost some of my identity having Cassidy constantlly with me and being no longer able to do the things i used to do. Even leaving the house is a struggle for me. There are days i have been in tears over this and days where i want to walk out and leave Cassidy with DP. We never thought we would get pregnant. I was on the pill and we were really careful. SO my BFP was a total surprise. I didnt realise at the time how much my life was about the change and how much it still changes on a daily basis.
Now all this may make me seem like i am a bad mother. But i do love her. It is just taking me awhile to adjust from a lifestyle i used to have to the one i have now. I am sure in the future it will get easier.
Anyway.. long post from me... thanks again to Tanya... feeling better now :)
Butterflymumma
21-03-2007, 11:44
I too feel as though i have lost some of my identity having Cassidy constantlly with me and being no longer able to do the things i used to do. Even leaving the house is a struggle for me. There are days i have been in tears over this and days where i want to walk out and leave Cassidy with DP. We never thought we would get pregnant.
Now all this may make me seem like i am a bad mother. But i do love her. It is just taking me awhile to adjust from a lifestyle i used to have to the one i have now. I am sure in the future it will get easier.
Just a quick post to say thanks to Tanya as well, it really helped to read your story and i dont feel as ashamed of my feelings towards Lillyana as much any more. As well thanks to juzzy for sharing your feelings as well, i can really relate to what you are saying.
I am b/f from one boob and expressing from the other, lately i have been expressing both, because I dont really enjoy breast feeding like i thought i would and find it much easier to feed her from a bottle. Its easy to feel ashamed to admit this because people think 'who wouldnt want that nice time with your child when you can breastfeed them?' well, its not that i dont want time with her, just having someone chew on my boob for 40 minutes is not my idea of fun. That sounds harsh i know, but i just cant get enjoyment out of it. I have formula there and while i havent had to use it, i can get tempted sometimes to quit the expressing and put her on formula.
Last night when my sister came over she was saying how suprised she was that i wasnt a 'clingy' mum like she thought i would be. She said when ever someone comes over i pass the baby over and leave the room to do my own thing...im not sure if thats wrong or right, but for one they are my family so i trust them with her and for two, im with her 24 hours a day, a little break when someone comes over to have some me time is nice...It keeps me enjoying her company instead of thinking how in the hell did i manage to put myself in this situation.
Being a single mum is very hard, especially on the bad days when i just want to ring up dd's father and abuse him for running out on me, for saying he loved me and leaving, for bullying me when he comes over with his thoughts and opinions on how she should be raised when hes not around for the night time feeds. Sometimes i look at my daughter and cry because if it wasnt for her existance, i would no longer have that jerk in my life. But i do love her, shes my flesh and blood and shes ten times the person he will ever be and brings me much happiness...i just think at 21, maybe i wasnt so ready for a baby...especially on my own. It freaks me out sometimes just thinking 'this is it, this is my life's story now, im a single mum with an ex who i hate, who i will always have to put up with for the rest of my life'. Its hard enough breaking up with someone, you just want to get as far away as possible let alone having a child to them. I never really understood how hard it would be and how much more i resent him now that she is here...but there are amazing days more often than not and i love being her mum....anyway thats my story...
tanya - Thank you so so much for sharing what you did and being so honest. I have felt so many of the things you mentioned but have been afraid to voice them for fear of sounding like a terrible mother or like I dont love my baby. Im so sorry your DH was not supportive of your decision to FF but good on you for being strong enough to know that it was the best thing for you and your baby, I really admire you.
I have had so many days where I have grieved the loss of my former life and my former self and wished for the carefree days before bub and then felt worse from guilt over feeling like that.
jUZZY - i too was on the pill and did not plan to fall pregnant - I sometimes think this makes it harder to deal with, particularly being a bit younger than I would have liked becoming a mum for the first time. Ive also had very unsympathetic friends who have not understood how hard an adjustment has been and have basically said I could have terminated but didnt so should just deal with it and not complain. That being said I adore my little girl and would not change anything for the world.
I am also struggling with BFing and although it is slowly improving, when I have days like yesterday where she wants to feed every hour it is so tiring I just want to give up. Im grateful that my DF is happy either way whether I FF but I have had many nights up with Olivia trying to settle her for 2-3 hours and crying my eyes out because DF has gotten frustrated after 15 minutes trying to settle her and starts telling her to shut up so I take over. I get so angry at him. We have a deal that if he gets too frustrated to hand her over as it is counter productive but I think sometimes he takes advantage of it - I get just as frustrated but end up dealing with it because I have no other choice. We've had a few conversations about it and he always feels bad later but there hasnt been much improvement yet.
I was thinking on the weekend when we were staying with my brother and sister in law and their 3 kids - a couple of times my DF and brother in law went to the pub for a couple of drinks and some boy time, leaving us to deal with 4 kids during dinner and bath time - there seems to be this general and automatic expectation that the women will cop most of the household and childrearing responsibilities. We went to the beach a few times and I would have loved to go for a swim but someone had to look after the bub and that person became me.
I dont know whether I should just accept that thats the way it is or try to negotiate something a bit more equitable! What do you girls think?
I just feel that quite oftentheres the expectation that the father needs boys nights out and time away from the family but in reality us mums probably need it more as we have it 24/7.
Im sorry for such a huge post!!! Congrats if you made it this far.
mumslilspunks
21-03-2007, 13:13
Good afternoon ladies :wave:
Ill try for the persionals while both boys are sleeping( hopefully i can get through them)
leashie- I wish Billy would sleep that long during the night! Whats your secret?
harleyq- With the shopping thing i leave ds in his capsule and stick that in the trolley and i also have a station wagon so when loading the shopping i just park him in the back (still in the capsule) And as someone elese has said i always try to park near a trolley bay!
brisbabydreamer- Welcome to the most helpful and friendly forum around ( expecially fab feb mummas). My name is Rennee (ren) and i have 2 boys. DS1 is 23months and ds2 is nearly 6weeks!
Hels- Glad to hear everything went well and we have you back!
icugirl- Mothers grouis a god send i reckon anyway. As you said you get to speak to other mums who are going through or been through what you are. And you realise that everything that is going on is 'normal'.
Ziggy29- :hugs: And everything leashie said. I promise you it does get easier.
Roopee- I have 2 boys (ds1 is 23mnths) and they copletely wear me out i could just imagen what 4 could do. Thankyou so much for sharing your story, i think its good to know that everyone goes through it. You dh sounds exactly like my dh. I think men just have no idea and do not realise what they say and do can really upset us. I cant belive he lectured you on giving ds1 formula. Wouldnt he prefer a non hungry, happy baby to a starving unhealthy bub? MEN :banghead: They have no idea. My dh went away every weekend fishing, hunting or just on the **** for the first 2/3 months of ds1 life. Hes a little better with ds2 but it did take me packing my bags and leaving to make him 'see'.
superfrog- Hows bubs eyes are they better? As for the personals i just keep a pad and pen next to the computer and when i read a post i just note down a little comment and then when ive caught up on the reading ill post. Doesnt always work out that way.
I try to post to all but sometimes the boys just dont co-operate:laughing:
Me- Well Billy is going through the pimple stage. Poor boy looks like he needs to use proactive (lol)
Im about to give ds1, Jack, away. (not really) He is hitting the terrible 2's and is really pushing his luck. This morning he had the naughty corner so many times i lost count. He is just throwing the worst tanties and is really pushing the boundaries. HELP any advice would be appreciated.
Well i hope you lovely ladies are looking after yourselfs. And with the Melb meet up i think ill leave it till the next time you guys meet. After just getting back from Melb, with both boys for the long weeknd, im not in a hurry to head back. So please keep me in mind for the next time. Thanks
Wow i think this is my longest post ever! Off to have a nanny nap...
thankyou to tanya for opening this up for discussion...
iwas mourning my previous life, beig able to go out when i wanted with out thinking of anyone else, my relationship with my DH which was in a very rapid decline, the fact that we were living in a strage place 4 hrs away from any friends or family, my loss of my previous body, i was leaking from anywhere and everywhere and i felt like i just couldnt get it right. I didnt understand why i couldnt do it.
ill stick my neck out here and say that i feel like this and hes my 4th!
i think its because my son is nearly 5 that ive had a long time of being able to go out with no pram or nappy bag and just going out whenever i felt like it with ds, to the beach, the movies, park ect and he is in school 2 days a week so i had time on my own... i also had alot of time for my other kids..
its a big guilt trip. when im late taking them to school and dd1 comes out with "we are always late now we have the baby"
and when i let it get to me like yesterday afternoon when the kids asked could i take them to the park and i said i had to feed the baby soon, dd said "you always have to feed the baby. we never get to do anything fun with you now" i just felt so bad for them. i took them to the park and fed the baby in the car while they played...then i came home to rush hour of dinner bath homework ect ect ect and dp comes home when its all done and the kids are drying the dishes. i sit down to feed...and he sits down too and changes the channel!
dps work hours didnt seem to bother me as much as it does now. and it really does. hes not helping as much as i want and expected him to...and no matter what i say it just isnt sinking in...the fact that he thinks i can manage everything is no consolation its just pressure to perform...and if i admit its getting to me he makes comments about my mothering....
he and my mother have convinced each other im a one way ticket to a mental home. my mother keeps txting me that i should see a DR. just this morning i got it again. i told her i need sleep and help with the housework and kids. i am not depressed..i live with a workaholic nimphomaniac! ((not what my mother needed to hear!!) but really! if he helped and i slept i would feel like i could conquer the world!
oh the joys of motherhood:(
brisbabydreamer
21-03-2007, 14:09
HI Ladies
A bit about me or us I should say. I am 26 and Hubby 29 and we have been married for 2 and a 1/2 years. We have one DS Oliver James who was born on 18th February 2007. I was induced as Oliver was 5 days overdue and ended up with an emergency c-section. I am at home now struggling along but starting to get used to things. In my former life (before Olly) I was a teacher and I have taken a years maternity leave. I totally agree with the whole loss of your old life discussion! I had a very hard time with baby blues and could have sworn I was going to end up in a mental institution! It was hard to have lost all independence and too add to it I had family staying with me for the first 3 weeks! We are now adjusting and I am sure things will get better once I can drive again! I had a hard time with breastfeeding at first as I was so upset and anxious all the time that i lost my appetite and my milk! But we are back on track now and I am fully breast feeding Oliver. I look forward to reading the rest of your posts and starting to join in! Thanks for making me feel welcome.
JoJoMart
21-03-2007, 14:55
Hi everyone,
Hi and welcome brisbabydreamer :)
Juzzy & others - Well I certainly can relate to a lot of what you are all saying.....while my pregnancy was a planned one I still feel that total loss of sense of self. Not being able to just get up and go out and do things spontaneously is hard......plus being so house bound and needing to work around feeds a lot of the time is such hard work. I'm so tired all the time and I did plan my pregnancy. Never knew it would be this hard BUT I've been told it gets easier.
Butterflymumma - I totally understand what you're saying regarding BF. I'm trying to BF during the day then top up with ff at night and I too prefer expressing and feeling Liam the milk from a bottle. At least I know how much he's getting plus Liam has been hungry constantly when feeding from the boob and I feel like I've been glued to the chair and it's so NOT FUN. He falls asleep at the boob too and it's so hard to wake him, so he ends up hungry because he's not feeding enough. To top it off he won't settle to sleep at the moment so it's been constantly feeding and holding him, rocking him or putting him in his rocker hoping he will doze off. :banghead:
I'm quite shocked some of you have partners who don't support formula feeding your baby. We all know 'breast is best' because it's drummed into us constantly but sometimes it doesn't work and makes the mother and/or baby miserable. I've struggled from day 1 with BF with low supply, poor attachment and Liam not feeding properly so I have HAD to top up with formula so that Liam would put on weight. Your partners should support you no matter what you decide because BF can be such hard work and it's not them having to do it. Typical blokes is all I can say :mad:
Shelby - you should definitely be able to negotiate with your partner to help out more. You need a break too......more than he does in fact! Just tell him you need a break and dump the baby on him!
I hope everyone knows that we are ALL in the same boat here and pretty much experiencing the same things with our new bubs, even though all babies are different. It's bloody hard work and so tiring with a newborn. It will get better over time and once they are smiling back at you it will all seem worth it.......just get lots of support & ask for it from your partners, friends, family or whoever offers! :hugs:
Press studs - yep, they are definitely a pain in the butt. Liam screams constantly while I fumble with trying to do them up when changing him.
*Sparkles*
21-03-2007, 15:02
welcome brisbabydreamer :wave:
I had a good night and feeling heaps better today, hopefully I will be back to normal soon :fingerscrossed:
I bought some of that Karicare thickner and I've started adding 1 scoop to Reece's bottles. (He drinks 150mls of formula). Since doing that he hardly sicks at all now and last night he fed at 9pm and then again at 4am :smiliedance: it seems to fill him up more and satisfy him.
I forgot who asked the question but I think it definitely gets easier after 7 weeks. Reece is almost 8 weeks and is holding his head up better now, feeds better and is starting to laugh and has more interest in things. So hang in there girls, the best is yet to come.
I had to miss my mother's group again this week so they have said I can start another group next month when I am feeling better, so I am happy about that. The one that I wanted to go to (closer to home) was full this time anyway, so hopefully I will get in next time round.
LMenz - Are you coming to the meet on the 29th? You are the only one that hasn't RSVP'd yet. Sorry if you have already posted your reply and I missed it. I hope you can make it.
Thanks to those of you who have posted your stories, it can't be easy. :hugs: to you
SuperFrog
21-03-2007, 15:44
*Long post alert!*
I think it is very liberating to be able to talk about our negative feelings without being judged. Everyone expects you to say that everything is wonderful and motherhood is a joy all the time.
My Mum used to be a midwife specialising in helping mothers with breastfeeding difficulties. When I was born she only had a little bit of milk, which she was so distraught about. When my younger brother was born there was a tiny bit of milk, but by the time my sister arrived there was no milk at all.
Fast-forward thirty years to me. I've had ample supply of milk and have never felt empty. My Mum, who has been very supportive of everything, keeps telling me how lucky I am, and that I have the opportunity to bond with Liam in a way that she never could with us. And although her motives are well-intentioned, it has made me feel very guilty.
I decided that I really wanted to breastfeed Liam, probably subconciously influenced by my Mum. We had lots of difficulties early on. Liam was getting plenty of milk but his attachment was really bad, causing me lots of pain. Many nights I cried in pain, frustration, and in dread of the next feed. But it was something I decided I wanted to do, and made myself small goals. "I'll keep breastfeeding until the end of the week, and then see if I want to keep going". I bought a tin of formula just in case of emergencies so I always had the option to stop whenever I needed to.
I feel like I have the opposite problem with my DH than everyone else. He just wants the best for me physically and emotionally. So every time I would get slightly upset he would keep saying I should just formula feed him, and why was I persisting when it could be so much easier. All I needed from him was some support in whatever I decided. I think he was frustrated that he couldn't help feed our child, and felt bad that all the responsibility was on me... and I wasn't coping. But the next time I would get upset he wouldn't have much sympathy for me as I had decided to take what he termed "the hard road"... and his lack of support upset me even more. It also made it more difficult in the first two or three weeks as i would get upset and cry, often for no reason. All of a sudden things would get too much for me and I'd burst into tears. Not being able to give a reason for your crying makes it hard for someone to console you as you're not exactly sure what it is that you need to hear.
I would also find myself getting very jealous of DH. He seemed to have so much time to himself, time that I had lost as it was spent breastfeeding... just sitting there.
Eventually we talked about everything it in depth so we could try and understand how the other person was feeling, and I think this helped a lot.
Things are much better now with breastfeeding. Every now and then Liam doesn't want to attach, and I get frustrated at him. Felt really bad the other day as I started swearing at him. Hope they aren't his first words!
I'm mainly finding at the moment that I'm so lonely during the day. Liam is 8 weeks old tomorrow and although it is getting easier now that I am more confident, I'm still very lonely. I asked the Maternal Health nurse (who I don't like AT ALL) when there was a mothers' group starting up and she said not until the beginning of May. That is so long away. All I really want is to meet some other people that live near me. Although we've lived here for 7 years, working full time means you don't really get to know that many people.
On the whole though I have to say that things are going well and I am very grateful that I have such a supportive husband. To everyone who doesn't have the support they need... see if you can find it elsewhere. It is so important physically and emotionally to have someone that you can turn to. I find that spilling my guts here sometimes really helps if I need to get something off my chest. My Mum doesn't drive so can't visit as often as she'd like to, but it is always reassuring to know that I can call her day or night for some advice. I don't always take her advice on board though as some of her ideas are outdated. My MIL is also very helpful. Overly helpful actually, but I'll save that rant for another day.
Big hugs to everyone that needs them. :hugs:
Thank You Tanya for posting your feelings....and thanks for trusting us enough to tell us. :hugs: to what you went through.
I feel the same as everyone else.....some days are wonderful but others I sit with my hands in my head and feel like crying. ATM I'm taking it one day at a time....if I have a bad day then I forget about it and start all over again the next day. Breastfeeding is HARD!!! I can't believe it is ever refered to as natural....Jack is totally B/F atm BUT I needed that formula in the cupboard as back up (and it's still there) My DH would prefer if I breastfeed (MEN!!) and I feel massive amounts of pressure from family and friends to do it........even people I don't know that well ask me if I'm breastfeeding. I don't know how long I will do it for...I've still got thrush - it just won't go away!!
In the end we all love our babies just as much, no matter how they are fed. I think it's so wonderful that we all have each other to support and talk to. You guys keep me sane :D
LMenz - Are you coming to the meet on the 29th? You are the only one that hasn't RSVP'd yet. Sorry if you have already posted your reply and I missed it. I hope you can make it.
YES! Sorry I haven't replied...... I will definately come, wouldn't miss meeting you girls for anything. I went out with Jack today (in public) for the first time so feel a bit more confident.
Thanks everyone for posting your real feelings about being a mum. I think i will join in as i am sure it will help to share with others how i really feel.
I am a very driven and determined person in all aspects of my life. some say type A personality others would say i am an overachiever and i call myself a perfectionist. i have never encountered a problem before that i couldnt think myself out of - until now.
I want to admit that i find being a mother very difficult - very, very difficult. wow. ive said it. having said it makes me feel like i am a failure. i feel like there are all these people cirling outside my home ready to say -"i told you so - you should never have had kids!" They are all ready to judge my ability as a mother. if i ask them for help they will say - well it could be a lot worse eg. your child could be disabled. or they say - well in my day the husbands never even changed a nappy and therefore i dont know what you girls are complaining about.
I used to work in a respected job where i was helping people everyday and recieving lots of thanks in the process. now if i get through the day i dont get any thanks at all. it is lonley. it is tiring and it is constant.
Every professional i reach out to to get advice tells me the polar opposite to the person before them. ARHHHH!! :banghead:
I feel depressed about the state of my body. I have no major labour complications but have excess weight to shift. when i do exercise i feel more exhausted. i am trying to eat better but that is upsetting too as my only solace/crutch sometimes seems to be food.
I want to go out drinking and dancing with the girls. Dh would look after lily fine but if i dont empty my breasts they leak everywhere. sexy -not.
I love Lily and am terrified of something bad happening to her. but why cant i have a child and a life as well. why cant i have it all?
On another point i have put my name down for family daycare starting from july - 2 days a week. is it wrong to want to go back to work. i think i will wean her before i go to work as expressing at work sounds way too stressful.
Thanks to leashie, butterflyu mamma and all others for your supportive words and nina for the text and lmenz for the pm. i have really been trying to catch up on my sleep with some success. i should have shared how i was feeling a few days ago becuase your support has really helped.
Those of you who dont have any feb mums in your area why dont you go ask the jan mums thread if they live near you. Nina and i went out for coffee with Cate and Lukenadmattsmum from the jan thread last friday and had a great time.
love you all. you are such good friends. :hugs:
Thanks to everyone for sharing their stories.. it's a really brave thing to do. It's so good that we have each other for support... what we have here is an invaluable resource. I would be lost without you girls !!
But having said that, I have a confession to make and I honestly feel really bad (and quite guilty) about saying it, especially considering what other people have said...
I don't really feel that different since becoming a mum. Sure I'm sleeping less and I can't just get up and do whatever I want whenever I want. I definately do have times where I get frustrated and upset, like when I can't get the baby to stop crying, or I've only had two hours sleep... but overall, I feel pretty good, and that I'm coping pretty well... is it wrong for me to feel like that??
I don't know what I'm doing different to everyone else but I have no trouble finding time being online or doing crafts or just watching TV... It's making me think that maybe I'm not doing something right. Basically, as soon as I put the baby to bed (assuming that he actually goes to sleep)... I just get done what has to be done. I do some housework, wash bottles, make up formula, check Bubhub etc.
Maybe it's because I'm not breastfeeding... it does seem to me that alot of unhappiness and distress in this forum is caused by people having trouble breastfeeding (and I really, really do feel for you all). I know that I definately had less time to myself when I was breastfeeding and/or expressing... and it was quite stressful. Even though going to formula was a hard decision (I know that DF was wanting me to BF), it's something I don't regret. I guess I've taken the easy way out really... but if it doesn't cause me stress to formula feed, then it can't be a bad thing.
I really do feel awful that some of you are having such a rough time with all this... especially if you don't have supportive partners (as far as I see it, it took two to make the baby.. and it takes two to care for the baby - though my DF could learn from this himself).
You are all great mothers and I feel privelledged to know you all. Just remember.. it will get better and it won't always be like this !!
*Sparkles*
21-03-2007, 18:05
Penny - I agree that it takes 2 to make a baby and 2 to care for him/her. Also what you said about not breast feeding is so true aswell. I was very time poor when I was BF and expressing, I think this is what started my PND.
The bottle feeding is definitely quicker and easier.
I think some people in here find that their babies don't sleep much during the day so it's hard to get things done which is very frustrating. Reece only has 1 good sleep in the day so I find myself running around like a headless chook at this time, so no time to rest. He does sleep well at night, but I was someone who was used to having 8 hours sleep so I am finding it hard to adjust to only 6 hours and a broken night.
I also find that during the day if he isn't sleeping then he gets cranky. I don't know what to do with him, I wish he would sit in his bouncer and be quiet so I can do things, but he won't. We do the play gym, have cuddles, do tummy time etc to try to amuse him. I also have one of those swings that hangs off a door frame and when he's bigger I will use that if he will tolerate it.
Once we have over come the cranky awake times, things will be easier. Anyone else find this or have any suggestions?
Hels.. I completely agree with you in everything.
I was just giving this some more thought as I was peeling potatoes (*LOL*) and I think that maybe being a night shift worker gives me an advantage over most mums. I'm completely used to not getting much sleep in my normal life and I'm always changing my 'time zones' (I'm expecting that jet lag will be less severe for me too). Sleep deprivation can make anyone want to slit their wrists, so I can imagine that if you're not used to having little sleep, then the physcial and psychological impact would be huge.
Also, the mums with the reflux babies are definately doing it very tough... I honestly don't think I would cope as well as I have.
I was also thinking about the younger mums who feel like they're mourning their previous life (I think it was Juzzy)... I can definately understand where you are coming from. When I was your age, I was at University and going out clubbing 4 nights a week, getting drunk and having a fantastic time... I'm now 33 and have the "been there, done that" attitutde (mind you, I'd still go out clubbing now if given the chance *LOL*). Most of my friends are settling down and having kids... whereas I'm sure most of your friends are still out partying. It would be hard to sit back and watch your friends having a good time without you. I know I would have found it hard.
Roopee and My-lot.. I commend you both for being able to get online at all considering the other children you have. You guys are my heroes !! :)
Anyways, they were just some random thoughts that came to my head after I posted.
*Sparkles*
21-03-2007, 19:29
I can't wait until we have our meet so we can all talk and share these feelings. I think we will be able to help one another heaps :hugs:
wow, seems like tanya has really stuck a chord with her post!
It seems the feeling is fairly mutual amoung most of us which is a comfort to me knowing that others are out there feeling the same.
I forget most of the time that i am still young. I was 21 when i conceived and didnt even celebrate my 22nd birthday as no one wanted to do anything besides go out and get drunk.
Now when i said i was mourning my "past life", its not that i used to go out and get drunk and go clubbing and things. I didnt really do these things anyway so its not like i miss that.
I miss going to work on a daily basis and i miss having some form of adult interaction that doesnt involve a discussion about how many pooey nappies Cassidy has in a day or something like that. Dont get me wrong i love talking about her and love being with her. But having said all of that i am still human and being a mum doesnt define me in every single way. I still have other interests. I guess to an extent that people tend to forget this once you become a mum.
i know i have lost a lot of friends now i have had a baby. I knew that i would... im no "fun" anymore, in their opinion. Thats fine, if they want to see me like that they obviously werent my closer friends to start with right? Its making new friends that is going to be the hard part.
As for sleep deprevation, i am struggling with this a bit even though bubba is sleeping thru the night it is still only 5-6 hours at the most and as someone who used to get 8 hours or so i am struggling a bit to adjust.
As for DP not helping or wanting me to give Cassidy formula. I can understand where he i coming from after having "breast is best" shoved down his throat by his mum (she breast fed all her kids, all 5 of them with no problems, and doesnt understand when others have problems with breast feeding). As for not helping me (i am painting the poor guy in a bad light here, but he is really lovely and i love him to bits anyway) he does work alot with the business that he runs and i guess that he just doesnt understand my point of view sometimes. He is trying to help me more but at the same time he doesnt realise just HOW much i need him to help me. I am starting to manage things better on my own but i shouldnt really have to as looking after Cassidy is a full time job on its own so the occasional break cant be that much to ask for can it?
as Penny said i think it is breast feeding that is making most of us miserable. I never realised how difficult it would be to breast feed a baby. Or how time consuming. I dont find it to be a natural thing at all, infact i hate it. It is painful and there can be so many associated problems that it is ridiculous. As i said before i dont even know why i am persisting with it. I guess i am afraid to be judged and criticised for the decisions i make and that would be a character flaw on my part. But i am only human.
Anyway, to everyone that has opened their hearts and minds since i have joined this and the other thread, you are all fantastic and i dont know what i would do without you.
:hugs: :hugs:
mumslilspunks
21-03-2007, 21:36
I cant belive im getting 2 posts in one day.
icugal- Im the same even though i have 2 kids. I still manage to shower and do the house work. I feel guily coz ds2 sleeps well during the day . I remember with ds1 i had friends telling me its normal to still be in pj's in the afternoon and i was like WTH? I managed to shower, clean and do sopping etc. But thats just me.
Now with two im finding i still shower and clean but i feel guilty coz i sould be spending time with either ds1 or ds2.
I think sleep depravation does alot to the head. It makes things worse it also makes things harder to deal with.
juzzy- I too miss the adult interation! I used to be a head chef of a very succsesfull resturant, had 20 staff and i worked there for 4 years. Ive gone to running a kitchen, where in complete controll to being a mum and having no controll!
My last 'night' out was my henz night, just over 3years ago. From a girl who used to go out every thursday, friday and saturday night things have really changed for me.
Its even harder when you have a partner who still goes out as much as he did before the kids!
Anyhoo
I dont know if its lack of sleep or just being silly but im feeling that i just cant seem to say or do anything right. I try to Personally post everyone but sometimes i cant. I see how alot of you have become close and i guess i miss that. I try to get online everday but having the two is hard. I guess what im trying to say is that im a lonely SAHM with no life and im just feeling sorry for myself:crying:
You girls have been there through everything and i guess i should post more often to get to know you all and i should pull my finger out so that i can meet up with you at the melb meet but its so hard to do it on your own with 2 kids.(winge winge). Specially with a nearly 2yr old who is teasting his boundries!
Sorry for the wing but just had a reall s$#t day
Cats&Kid
22-03-2007, 00:05
Hi ladies,
Thank you all for your inspirational stories. It's so wonderful not to feel alone as I'm sure we all have similar feelings but don't voice them as we feel unable to cope and worry about being labeled 'bad mothers'.
As to BF I'm sure that's what most of us are spending our time doing! I'm still expessing and perservering with a shield but it's time consuming, tiring and down right frustrating most of the time. My supply is also down as I'm only expressing about 100ml now and Matt's drinking around 130ml so I'm having to top him up anyway with formula. I'm also constantly worried about getting mastitis again. I really feel for you, Juzzy I think it was - sorry, I'll have to take up the idea of the writting pad beside the laptop :) the fever and aches etc was the worst I'd felt for ages, and it makes you even less able to cope and enjoy our beautiful bubs :hugs: to you.
My DP was constantly preaching about BF being the only choice before I had him and every time I said I might have problems (my Mum wasn't able to BF) he'd say I was just looking for the worst outcome all the time. He's now realised how difficult it really is and that FF would be the easier option - even so, he's not as supportive as he could be of my continued efforts.
NoMoreScuba & Shelby: I'd love to try and catch up. Sassi and I haven't set a date yet so let us know what suits you both best - I think Wednesdays are out as we both have appointments.
About mothers groups - the local ECHC that I've joined up with only has a mothers group until the babies are 8 weeks old then you can't go! I find this really strange - is this how they all work? I thought you just became part of a group regardless of the age of the bub. Also it's at 9:30 and would take me a bus journey in peak hour to get there, would you say it's worth going?
Welcome brisbabydreamer - you've certainly joined the best group of Mum's on the web! My_lot and Roopee are also my heros - really appreciate how difficult it must be with multiple children. Makes me feel I can't complain about just one little baby :)
Hugs and love to all Mums out there and hope we all have a good night with a few extra :sleeping: xxx
:wave: morning everyone :wave:
thought for the day- :D
whats your most memorable day with your baby been so far.
good bad or ugly whats the one day you can look back on and smile about ....or think "cant believe i survived that!" ??
id start..just got to tie two heads of hair up, make b/fast for 3, put shoes on one, sunblock all of us and get them to school...:D but ill be back..
but overall, I feel pretty good, and that I'm coping pretty well... is it wrong for me to feel like that??
NO WAY!! Well Done To You.... I think it's great you feel like that...:)
I also find that during the day if he isn't sleeping then he gets cranky. I don't know what to do with him, I wish he would sit in his bouncer and be quiet so I can do things, but he won't. We do the play gym, have cuddles, do tummy time etc to try to amuse him. I also have one of those swings that hangs off a door frame and when he's bigger I will use that if he will tolerate it.
Once we have over come the cranky awake times, things will be easier. Anyone else find this or have any suggestions?
I'm having the same issues Hels....this is probably been my biggest struggle apart from B/F. Some days he just won't go down without a fight....I agree with you I think as they get older they won't be as cranky. Jack will sit in his bouncer most of the time but cracks it if I go too far away so I'm kinda stuck too.
my_lot - Yesterday was my most memorable (so far) as it was the first day I went out with Jack in public on my own. I didn't want to do it cos I was worried what would happen if he screamed but I just told myself to get over it and go!! and I'm so glad I did.... I ran into a few people I know so I got to show him off and talk to adults. AND guess what? he didn't cry the whole time :D In fact I'm so impressed with the two of us I'm going out again today
Have a great day lovely ladies :)
Just quickly...REN - Please don't feel left out. I can only imagine how hard it would be to juggle two kids especially a two year old. I only get on bubhub so much cos the computer is outside Jack's room so I hop on while trying to get him to sleep...which takes forever!!! I would love to meet you at the big meet up in late April :)
I'm off to highpoint for some shopping!! Toys R Us are having a sale...... :yelclap:
a memorable day...
when he was 4 days old and it was my first outing with all 4...and i did it in style. we got a plane,train,train and taxi. that was the day my milk came in! my boobs were hanging out of my top and thats when i wasnt hanging them out feeding him every hour! we got to the train platform just as the train pulled out.. so i sat down to feed him and then a train pulled up. i had to get dd10 to hold ds4s hand getting into the train. i had the baby in one arm a huge bag on that shoulder and was pushing the pram with the other hand...i didnt pull up my bra cup and i gushed all down the front of my shirt...
after more than 6 hours of travel we got there...and the kids ran round stupid with excitment at seeing family and friends. it was overwhelming having all these people around and i was so so tired! it was so nice to have someone else cook dinner and burp the baby and put him to bed!
dp rang me that night and said how much he missed us and he was so lonely and i spent most of the conversation in tears...i left because he was going to be working 4 days straight- he wouldnt take any time off after he was born- even with me begging him to...the only reason he didnt work the day the baby was born was because the superbowl was on tv and he only works in the morning- then has the rest of the day off- every year this day is the same! he used the phone an hour after the baby was born to cancel the AM work!
it was a very strange conversation that night- just talking on the phone was weird..going to bed alone that night was very hard-
so that was my most memorable day.
it certainly was the longest day ive lived with four kids! :laughing:
the most emotionaly draining but also a great feeling of hapiness with having all my family and friends rally around for the new baby and the older kids...
NoMoreScuba
22-03-2007, 08:23
I'm off to highpoint for some shopping!! Toys R Us are having a sale...... :yelclap:
I meant to tell you guys this yesterday - huggies are 29.99 in toys r us at the moment...
Umm, well I'm not going to do personals cause i don't have much time. But I have read all of the posts, so I just want to send a big :hugs: to everyone feeling a bit low, and a big :smiliedance: for all of us cause i reckon we're doing really well!
Tanya certainly started off a very popular line of thought didn't she!
I would say on the whole that i'm coping better than i thought i would. I've been making sure i get out and about every day, and am very lucky because i have a few friends with kids at home so I always have someone to go and meet for coffee etc. I'm looking forward to my mother's group which starts next monday so i can meet more people though. The breastfeeding is going ok, i've been so lucky not getting mastitis or anything so far, and the expressing is giving me a chance to have a drink during the evening and DF gives charlie a bottle before he goes to bed.
The negatives for me are the inability to dash out without thinking about it - I still feel like every outing is a military operation! I know that this will get easier and easier, and i am getting better at going places without panicking, but it's hard! The other big one for me is the lack of conversation - I have nothing to say to people! Has anyone else found this? I must be the most boring person in the world. And add to that the fact that even when i am out i find it hard to relax so I must seem a bit distant to people.
I took charlie into my office yesterday to meet my work colleagues, it was really weird to be back.
Right, i need to jump in the shower, charlie is asleep.
oooow id love to go shopping!
has everyone got their baby bonus $$$ ?
im still waiting :confused:
is it income tested? cos if it is im going to get a big fat 0 :laughing:
it should be purse tested then id get it all :laughing:
Most memorable day? Hmmm.... This is a harder question that I thought.
I think it might be when I got to wheel my newborn baby out of the Special Care Nursery and back to the ward with me for the first time.
I'd been up on the ward for most of the previous 36 hours listening to all the other babies at the bedside with their mothers (including the mum and bub that I shared a room with)... and I kept looking at the empty space next to my bed thinking "Where is my baby". Because of the caesar, it wasn't like I could just pop downstairs at any time to visit him (Special Care is three floors below the Maternity Ward).. and being that they wouldn't let me walk that far after surgery so it was always such an effort to find someone to wheel me down there.
When they finally said that I could take Kaelan back to the ward, it was such an exciting moment. They had offered to wheel me back up to the ward and then bring the baby up to me after he'd been checked out by the paediatrician... but I refused. I was determined that *I* was going to be the one to take my son upstairs... and I did. It was the first proper long distance walk that I had done since the caesar, but it was worth every ounce of discomfort that I felt.
It was only once I got him up to the ward that I thought "Oh sh!t, now what do I do with him??" :laughing: :D
Sorry for the double post but there are all these new replies in the 10 minutes it took me to write the previous one *LOL*
My_lot - I can't even imagine travelling long distance with just a four day old newborn... let alone a whole tribe of kiddies. You really are supermum !! (And I got my baby bonus.. haven't spent it yet)
NoMoreScuba - I did the exact same thing yesterday !! I was over the eastern side of Melbourne for my doctors appointment (all is good btw) and figured that I might as well go visit all my friends at the hospital where I worked at for years (I resigned from my full-time job there last year, but I still work some casual shifts... and I've just decided I'm going to go back there permanently this year and resign from my new job- it's a long and complicated story !!). Kaelan got shown off to both the Intensive Care Unit and the Orthopaedic ward because I've worked in both places and still have many friends there. They all loved him and thought he was gorgeous (but of course !! ;) ). It was a rather long day though. I left home here at 10:30am and didn't get home again until after 5pm.
Oops.. I hear a baby awake.. better go attend to him :)
Good Morning.
Im glad that everyone feels like they can spill their bellies here and not be judged-Thats great.
I re-read my post last night and thought OMG- i hope i dont sound like a bad mum or that i hope i didnt make anyone stop b/f. That wasnt my intention- it was just to let it out and let anyone else know who was feeling like that that its ok and pretty normal.
That being said, it gets easier with every child ( for me anyway). I am very determined and confident in my decisions now and REFUSE to be told any different by anyone what is best for me and the kids. Its just something you learn as your confidence grows.
I havent found the adjustment so hard from 3 to 4 but somedays well, lets just say they suck. Cody has just had to slot into the routine and cope- poor baby has had no choice.
I find time to get on here either when the kids are sleeping or playing alone. Its my time to interct with you guys and i would quite simply die without it. Oh and i have a Laptop which is connected to wireless broadband so the puter can come with me anywhere in the house and is on all day. If i didnt have that i wouldnt be able to come in very much.
Most memeorable day? Hmm that would have to be the day she was born. When i got to see the other kids reactions to her. That was amazing.
That being said- todays been pretty memorable too. I have had 2 extra kids this morning so i had to take Riley to preschool along with 6 kids (was dropping Riley and his friend at school) so load 6 into the car, unload 6, re load 4, unload 4 Take Cooper into the Drs- re-load 4, get Cooper to school, reload 3 and now hear we are about to head out again. We've been home for 15 mins and we have to go out again!! I feel like all ive done is get in and out of the car a hundred times.
Anyway i better go, i have my 6 week check today at 2 so i might be able to get back on and update you all!
:hugs:
did you get the $$ roopee?
im peethed. my friend just told me she got hers the day after she put the paperwork in.
i did mine 5 weeks ago :confused:
my_lot i got mine a week after i put the paperwork in..
give them a ring or something and see what they say...
i have heard that if there is a problem with the paperwork they will more often than not just not deal with it for ages. So id be following it up
its not income tested or anything the only requirement was that uve had a baby lol
good luck tho, i hate talking to centrelink and all those government type places!
Squiggles
22-03-2007, 13:01
Hi Ladies,
Im feeling sorry for myself today... suffering with my first hang over in 10 months! DH came home early to look after Connor for the night and I went to meet a girlfriend at the pub. Haven't been out in so so so long that I was actually nervous to go into the pub... I felt really "out of place" IYKWIM - that soon wore off after a few glasses of white wine. I ended up only having about 4 or 5 drinks but OMG they went straight to my head. I even had a few cigarettes - I am so mad at myself as I haven't smoked in over a year and a half, I think I just got carried away in the moment. Got home at midnight and had a shower and balled my eyes out because I felt so sick. Got into bed then waaa waaa waa - had to get up and feed Connor. Still felt drunk at 4am when I got up for his next feed. Have been feeling shaky and horrible all day. I have realised that I actually dont enjoy getting drunk. I really like drinking - love a glass or two of wine or a beer but I really hate being drunk and I have to say that being a mummy now, I felt guilty as hell coming home to my beautiful little boy and stinking of alcohol and cigarettes. Oh well I have learnt a lesson. DH thought it was great that I went out, he has been encouraging me to get out more as I think he is realising just how hard it is at home with a little baby all day.
Anyway enough of my dribble..
my_lot - I got my payment about 4 days after putting my forms in, like Juzzy said I would follow up if I were you.
Hope everyone is having a trouble free and stress free day. Sorry for no personals today, Im just too tired to get my thoughts straight!
NoMoreScuba
22-03-2007, 13:48
Yeah, my_lot I'd chase it - I got mine about a week after i put in the paperwork.
By the way, did anyone else get $4100? I was really confused because i thought it was supposed to be $4000. DF wonders if they're building up towards the $5000 that it will be in july so that people don't try and delay their babies unnecessarily so they're born in july!
Anyway, I guess you could say we've already spent it as we had to go out and spend $5500 on flights to the uk for our trip in august, which is because of charlie, so his maternity payment can be his donation towards costs!
yeah i got 4100 as well i think that has something to do with inflation or something (st least thats what i remember hearing)
having trouble getting cassidy to sleep today....
she had a nap from 7am til about 1030 and has only slept for like a few minutes since then...
she is very alert and just doesnt want to nap! She is starting to show the tired signs but is refusing to settle!
im going to have an over tired bubba very very soon!
Hi,
I don't know where to start. I totally relate to what you guys have been saying. With Molly I breast fed then topped up formula. It made us both miserable as she didn't seem to be getting enough milk and I felt pressured to bf because of the ['breast is best'. I gave up after 6 weeks and felt totally ashamed. I also had a very traumatic birth and my extended episiotomy got infected twice! I was in england, with no friends with babies, no sleep, an angry baby, and wasn't coping.. It is hard to find what works best for you but I do anything to make my life easier.
It is totally overwhelming having a baby, your life is gone! Then you have people telling you what you should do and then your expected to be happy about it!
I am lucky with Tayla, she does sleep alot. My latest drama is unfortunately she sleeps better on her tummy and i find myself leaving her there so I can get other things done. I check on her to see if she is still breathing. I've tried turning her but she wakes up again!! Any advise?
Also I gave up b/f in the first week so congratulations to the mothers who have persisted for so long. I do find i have alot more time to myself, even with my other daughter. I felt so bad on saturday because I lost it with Molly who was being a little madam when we were shopping. She doesn't stop talking! I also thought I might have PND but with the older daughter! Then on Tuesday I got AF which made sense why I couldn't be more patient with Molly. Also it is really heavy..Did anyone else find this?
I'm also avoiding the mch nurse because she was so critical about the things i was doing with Tayla. I want to see how much she weighs but I don't want the lectures.
SUPERFROG- I live near you and if you don't feel confident about leaving the house, I could come to you or you could come to me. At least at our houses the babies have somewhere to go - rockers, mobiles etc...
Tracy xx
JoJoMart
22-03-2007, 14:42
Hi girls,
Well sounds like we are all on the same wavelength again today :yes:
Hels - I think you mentioned Reece being unsettled during the day.....Liam has been totally unsettled during the day for the last week. That means I don't get to rest much during the day and it can be hell. He just won't settle no matter what I do and can be awake the whole day sometimes with the exception of a few short naps. It's frustrating as all hell as I feel like I don't get ANY time to myself at all. He will also be unsettled at night until midnight then he will sleep for 5 hours straight (this bit I can handle!). Today is slightly better as we've been out in the pram and he's asleep in their now:fingerscrossed:
Juzzy - BF can be a total pain and i agree it doesn't necessarily feel natural at all. I have had heaps of trouble too but after my MCHN appt this morning I am STILL persevering with BF which is probably stupid. I find formula feeding a lot easier.....on the downside I think Liam has mild reflux as he seems in pain after a feed and will arch his back and vomit some of it up. He does this with BF too but not as much. I have had heaps of advice from people and some say just to give up BF as I've tried for a month and it's not working well but I'm feeling so guilty about contemplating giving up! I'm going to persevere until at least this weekend when Liam is 1 month old.
Squiggles - I can't say I miss hangovers but I do miss having a glass of wine.......I have had the odd glass now and then but when you are BF & timing when to drink it takes the fun out of it :(
Has anyone felt on some days that being a mother isn't for them? Too late I know to be feeling this! This morning I felt so **** and Liam was screaming so much I just couldn't take it anymore as I hadn't had a chance to eat anything or get dressed or do anything for myself. I don't regret being a mother (now that he's sleeping) but sometimes I think WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING THIS IS SO HARD. I keep being told it gets easier so I am hanging out for those times.
LMENZ like you said that you are taking it day by day....I think that's the best way. It keeps you a bit sane anyway.
Well, aside from that I still think everyone sounds like they are doing a fantastic job and we are all surviving and will soon have fun with our interactive bubs and hopefully the BF or FF will all be sorted for everyone :fingerscrossed:
did you get the $$ roopee?
im peethed. my friend just told me she got hers the day after she put the paperwork in.
i did mine 5 weeks ago :confused:
Yeah i got mine. It took about a week to come thru and was deposited straight into the account.
Its not means tested either- we must be in the same boat as you- classed as being "well off and in a high wage tax bracket" but Johnny Howard sees to it that not much makes it to the wallet!:o
I find time to get on here either when the kids are sleeping or playing alone. Its my time to interct with you guys and i would quite simply die without it. Oh and i have a Laptop which is connected to wireless broadband so the puter can come with me anywhere in the house and is on all day. If i didnt have that i wouldnt be able to come in very much.
Same as me... my laptop usually sits on the loungeroom coffee table, but because we also have wireless broadband, I can take it into whatever room I want (or the backyard if I so desired). I generally leave my lappy on all day (unless I'm going out) and will usually have this or other Bubhub pages open (so the little green light next to my name will be on most of the day :) ). I just refresh the page every couple of hours to see if anyone else has posted a message.
As sad as it sounds, you girls are my main social outlet. As I'm sure I've mentioned over and over (and over :) ) again... none of my friends or family live on this side of Melbourne, so I'm fairly isolated here. DF is gone from the house for nearly 12 hours every weekday (work + travelling time), and then when he is home, usually one of us is sleeping. I would guestimate that we have only seen each other (face to face) on average for about 20-40 minutes every day of late.
Ok, I'm starting to ramble now, so my point is that I'd be lost without you guys here !!
Squiggles - Good on you for going out.. I'm so jealous !!! *LOL* I know hangovers totally suck, but I hope you had a good time at least getting to that point in the first place !!! :D Now I want to go out drinking !!
NoMoreScuba - the maternity payment is $4100 for now.. the extra $100 is an inflation thing. I suspect that some of our money will probably go towards our trip to the UK in a couple of weeks.
Juzzy - Kaelan is the same today... quite unsettled. He is finally alseep now, but it took a bit of effort to get there. I wonder if it is heat related (have since turned on the evap cooling).
Moggs - I think I'm the only other one here to have had a period after baby. And YES, it was really heavy. On the third day, I had a major bleed that landed me back at the Mercy. I think my hormones are a bit screwy though, because even yesterday I was still getting some very faint spotting (I should be about day 11-12 of my cycle). Any sort of spotting is not normal for my usual cycle. I did see the doctor yesterday and she said it could be normal after baby. I'll see what happens with my next period.
1st time Mum in Melb - I think that most mums at one stage or another think that maybe motherhood isn't for them. I know I've thought it myself.. especially at the beginning. I think it had a lot to with me suddenly losing my independence and having to be available 24/7 for this new demanding little human in my house. I guess now that I'm getting used to being 'mum' and not just 'Penny', I think it less...
Me - At the moment, I'd really love someone to watch Kaelan for 10 minutes so that I could go down to the supermarket to buy some margarine !! I don't like the fact that I can't just get up and go... and the thought of having to put Kaelan into the car, take him out of the car, walk around the supermarket, put him back into the (hot) car, take him out of the car and then try to settle him again back in his cot... makes me tired just thinking about it. I'm almost considering doing my food shopping online...
*Sparkles*
22-03-2007, 16:07
As sad as it sounds, you girls are my main social outlet. As I'm sure I've mentioned over and over (and over :) ) again... none of my friends or family live on this side of Melbourne, so I'm fairly isolated here. DF is gone from the house for nearly 12 hours every weekday (work + travelling time), and then when he is home, usually one of us is sleeping. I would guestimate that we have only seen each other (face to face) on average for about 20-40 minutes every day of late.
Ok, I'm starting to ramble now, so my point is that I'd be lost without you guys here !!
Penny - I am in the same boat, well actually I have only lived in Melb for just under 3 years so I don't know many people either. Hopefully after our first meet next week we can all become friends. I can't wait to chat to other people who know exactly what I am going through!
My_Lot - Did you lodge your baby bonus forms at Centrelink or Medicare? I was told to do mine at Medicare as it's quicker, so it took about a week. I've heard that Centrelink can take forever to process it. I agree with what the others said and chase it up with them.
1st time mum - Not sure if you saw my post about the karicare thickener that I've started using? Reece was quite sickie during and after feeds and since using the thickener he hardly chucks at all. He is also more settled, sleeping better and his poos are also not so feral lol. We still have arsenic hour every night but I'll just have to live with that for a bit longer I s'pose!
Well AF is visiting here too and it seems fairly heavy although I normally get cramps but not this time. I am hoping that it is actually AF and not something to do with my procedure :fingerscrossed:
I'm going to buy one of those bath seats for Reece so I can take him in the bath or shower with me. That way if I need to get ready to go out and he's awake, he can come in with me. We can also do some playtime in there with his rubber duckies lol. It might also help with arsenic hour when I just don't know what to do with him!
I noticed today that when I pick him up with his head on my shoulder he is starting to wrap his arms and legs around me, that's so special and cute :kiss:
Hello lovely ladys.
We just had our 1st mch cheak up and Marissa is 4.5 kg now she was 3.3 at birth i hope she has put on enough weight.
We are having the unsettling day as well she won't let me put her down.
Mylot I got mine 10 days after i put the papers in at centrelink. They only have 28 days from the day its lodged to pay it so give them a call.
Squiggles LOL i did the same thing a few weekends back and don't feel bad for doing something for yourself you little one was being well looked after so why not have a night out after everything you have been through in the last few weeks don't you think you deserve a relaxing night.
1sttimemummy DON'T feel guilty for any choices you make regarding ur bub (notice how i said UR BUB) it is your baby and if u feel your body can handle b/f for longer then do it if you feel your not handling it then FF i do and there is nothing wrong with my bub:D
If anything i find her a happy baby cause im happy.
Yes breast is best (so they keep telling us) but if formuler was not good they wouldn't sell it and have so many different types.It is specialy made to feed babys of all ages.
everyone goes through the 'what did i have a baby for' at some point, and since every one else is being honest i will tell u all my little story about B/f, Cloth nappies and bad PND in another post.
icugal i no what u mean bout our little group here, i came straight home from mch to tell you guys about bub before i've even rung DP 9which i better do) lmao
Me AF still hasen't come yet and i can't even feel it, u ladys that have got it did it just bam show up or did u have spotting first. i have been spotting for a week but thats it.
By the way DP is nagging me to do the between the sheets dance and even though its been nearly 7 weeks and down there has been feeling fine for bout 3 weeks im to scared incase it hurts (sorry if its TMI or to personal)but have any of u DTD yet if so did it hurt if not how long will u wait.
OK i will post my PND story now.:wave:
OK here is my story,
My parents seperated when i was 14 and i went of the rails got into the wrong crowed and got into drugs and alcohole quite bad (that was very hard to admit and not alot of ppl no that) When i feel pregnent with DS i was only 17 and his drop kick father and his family put me through hell all of them telling me that the baby would ruin there lives and his father told my he wasn't ready to grow up into the real world. But i new in my heart if i didn't have this baby i would keep going down and probably end up dead, so i told him where to go and that it was my baby not his ect ect..... a week before i was due i moved in with my mum. I had my little boy 5 days after my 18th after 18 hours of labour with only one shot of pethadine as i hated drugs. (btw as soon as i thought i was pregnent i gave up everything even smoking)
He was beautiful and i cryed every day till i left hospital thnking him for saving my life.
While i was in hospital i was pushed by everyone nurses docs and my mum to bf and i tryed and try but no one showed me how to do it and he wasn't latching on prperly so u can imagin what my nipples where like but i kept going up all night with him constently screaming the house down and every time he did feed he would power chuck the lot up which made hime scream more. My mum pushed me to use cloth as well as she did with us well trying to do nappies as well as settle a reflux baby and do house work(mum is a total neat freak) i started getting very depressed it started on day 6 and one night when he was 7 weeks old and i hadn't slept at all in 2 days i had a thought of putting a pillow over his face so he would be quiet for a few minutes well that was when i new i needed help. i went and woke mum and told her what happened and she told me to go to bed and she got up and ff him. The next day i went to the doctor and he was diagnosed with reflux and me PND but i refused to believe it. She sent me to a special feeding clinic for a week and it helped so much i put him on reflux formula and the nurses showed me feeding a refux baby and how to settle. Well on day 3 of the stay He got sick and ended up in hospital for a week with hight temps and vomiting he had menengitis but i brought him home after a tough week and went to see a pND doctor and went on tablets. Ater that i new that i need do do What i felt was wright and i told anyone that tryed to tell me what they thought i should do to go jump, and they took a step back. I believe the only real way to learn is to make mistake first.
All was good till his father came back and wanted to see him i got even more depressed and was diagnost with bypola disorder Which i believe was cause i let my PND get out of hand. That is why i urge anyone that even thinks they may have it to talk to someone they trust and get the help u need. I stayed on tablets till i feel prg with marissa then refused to take them till i had her and it was a hard 9 months for us all but we got through it and now i have my little angel i'm only on the minimam dose now a i feel i can handle it. I still have up and down days which every mum has with a new bub but the fact that i can talk my problems through with you guys help me alot more than you can imagin some days the bypola hits me bad but i no how to control it and have a beautiful family now helps alot.
I'm really enjoying marissa as i have FF her since day one and i have that experiance with refux feeding and settling behind me. So if you need help ask for it, if your doing something that is making you down you are the only one that can change it. And most of all don't let anyone tell you what is write for YOUR baby only u no that.
That was really hard to admit some of that and very few ppl new till now but if it will help someone....
My boy saved me and my girl revived me.
If you got to the end of this HUGE post thank u for listening or reading and i hope it helps at least one of you
Oh Leashie- Massive :hugs: to you! Your so brave for telling us that- it cant have been easy. Trust me- i admire you, how very strong you are!
Squiggles- Oh im so jealous. Not of the hangover but of the night out! Dont feel guilty hun, most of us would kill for that time away.
my_lot- did you chase up your money? How did it go?
Not many personals tonight sorry!
Me- i've had a busy busy day! im so tired and so is the baby. Poor bubba has been dragged around all day. On the shopping note im off tomorrow too. ToysRUs have some great things on special so im going to check it out. They have a TOMY light and sound show that goes on the side of the cot that only $20 half price. I never had any sort of stimulation in the kids cots BUT this baby is very different and struggles to settle without being held so i thought i might give it a go. Hey if it doesnt work i can always sell it on ebayLOL.
They also have the 2kg bottles of pink napisan for $10 which s a saving of about $7. Oh and of course the nappies!
I had my 6 week check up today and all was well. I didnt have to have an internal:smiliedance: coz i didnt have any stitches and wasnt due for a pap smear. I did however get a nice strong prescription for the pill as AF after all the kids has been heavy all the time so im hoping to avoid that this time. I know i wont be needing it for contraception though.
The Dr asked what we were doing for contraception in the meantime of DH's Vasectomy and i just said "Oh Dh is seeing to that- he's behaving like a complete a$$ so i wont want to sleep with him". The dr cracked up at that one LOL. Seriously thought the only way i wont fall pregnant again is if we dont have sex so im just not doing it till Dh's bits are broken Cant risk it- that being said though and even though i so have the sh!ts with him atm im starting to miss it and its getting harder to say no to. Sorry if TMI.
Take care ladies!!!:hugs:
mumslilspunks
22-03-2007, 20:34
Well i just spent half an hour replying to everyone, go to tend to bubs and hubby jumps on the computer and wipes everything.
Anyhoo
squiggle- i too am jelous of your night out! Why should you feel guilty? Happy mum happy bubs ( even if mums feeling a little hungover). I cant wait for my next night out.
leashie- On the 'sex' thing hubby and i did the deed after 2 weeks. Just had to keep reminding dh to be genltle (sorry TMI). I think the main thing is to relax :eek: Sorry again tmi. Also thankyou so much for sharing your story, you are a strong and wonderfull woman to have gone through that and to be abel to share that with us is just amazing!
AF- Im one of the weird ones who doesnt get AF. Thats why im very blessed to have my two boys!! I was told i could never have kids or that it would be very hard for me to fall pregnant but that hasnt been the case. I went 2 years without getting AF and its quite normal for me to go 4/5 months without having it.
Roopee- glad to hear your check up went well. Im dreading mine. I love your contraception method! Must try it:laughing:
Me- Had our MHCN check up today and without fail they told me i wasnt doing anything right!:mad:
I should/shouldnt be expressing after a feed, i should be giving him more tummy time and i also shouldnt be topping him up with formula off a night!!??? Those women really need to get a life! I really fely like telling her to get f$#@!d today. Then she had the nerve to tell me he had to much clothing on for this warm day and had a go coz ds1 was still in nappys and had a dummy!
I reckon if i had a machine gun i would have gunned her down * watching to many Arni movies*.
What is it, there job to put all mums down to make themselves feel better? Vent over
Well hope all you lovely mummys get a good nights :fingerscrossed:
SuperFrog
22-03-2007, 22:21
SUPERFROG- I live near you and if you don't feel confident about leaving the house, I could come to you or you could come to me. At least at our houses the babies have somewhere to go - rockers, mobiles etc...
Tracy - I've PM'd you about our meet up. Looking forward to it! I'm okay leaving the house although I haven't breastfed in public yet. Not quite ready for that one yet. Liam usually goes around 4 hours between feeds, so if I time the feeding just before leaving then we should be right for a while.
I'm tempted to type a gigantic post, as I usually do, but I think I really should go to bed instead. It takes so long to read everyone's post these days... and this is the only thread I read! Maybe tomorrow.
no $$$
i put the paperwork into medicare 5 weeks ago
i rang centrelink and they said medicare are still processing the paperwork.
be back later for a chat... got to go do the school runs.
today is friday- my day off! :laughing: jeez thats so funny to me even as i write it i chuckle! and its about to get better. dp is going to hire someone a house cleaner.
men are so thick arent they :banghead: i ask him to help more with the housework and he says hes going to hire someone!
the other night i said "could you do the bedtime rock shhh shhh thang i have to wash the nappies" he says just use sposies you dont need to use "washing" nappies it just makes more work for you to whinge about....all i was going to do was throw the nappies in with HIS clothes :laughing:
and how cute are these nappies-
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/000_0292.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/000_0295.jpg
takes me 5 minutes to do these. takes alot longer to wash hang fold and iron a family of 6 worth of clothes!
the last two afternoons have been really hot and dp has been able to come home from work for an hour (after ive done the school runs!) and hes taken the kids to the beach for a swim....and asked me did i want to go to. well- whats my choice here. sit in the stinking heat with the baby or stay home in the air con with the baby!
i said lets get someone to do the lawns...ours are the worst in the street and we live in a street full of old ducks who have nothing better to do but prune their pruned gardens....and the old f@rt next door keeps saying things like "your going to get snakes" :laughing:
dp says " no im quite capable of working a full week AND mowing the lawns! "
oh jeez that turned into a rant! my dp is just such an idiot sometimes!
Leashie - Thanks for sharing your story :hugs: to you....you have been through so much and your only 23. You must be a very strong woman!
ME- I'm crabby today. Jack had a very unsettled night....not sure if it's the heat or his wind problem. The bit I'm crabby about is my DH never got up once to help me as he doesn't think he has to cos he has to "function at work" :rolleyes: Jack woke at 6am and only needed to be re settled so I dragged myself out of bed for the 10th time and my DH got up at the same time and just got ready for work!!! Gee thanks for the help!! GRRR!! Men just don't get it!!
Anyway I'm off to visit my mum and grandpa today but I don't want to go......it's soo hot already! I can't cancel as I know my grandpa is dying to see his great grandson
Anyway sorry to be 'all about me' just needed to get that off my chest.
BTW - Toys R Us sale was pretty good....Huggies were on sale but Jack is in Infant's now and they don't come in bulk :confused: . Huggies wipes are cheap and all their Bonds clothes were at a pretty good price too. Worth a look if you needed to pick up anything else for your bubs.
I also went to Big W and got heaps of clothes for Jack (most were $5.00 each) Gotta love a bargain!!
Enjoy the day :)
Hi guys,
It is going to be another hot one in melb!! I am so over the weather now.
Special moment with bubs was when she was born. With Molly I didn't get to see her for ages as i was in a bad way so with Tayla, I got to hold her straight away. Oh those eyes looking at me with awe were the most memorable. I couldn't stop kissing her and she had all that white vermix stuff on her head!!lol
I can't believe how much she loves water! I took her out of the bath yesterday and she cried!! I try and leave her in as long as possible but there are things to do and all. It has become our little bonding time with just me and her now.
I think DH is finally getting how hard things are. He jokes and says I have an easy life but last night was a nightmare. We went shopping and Tayla wouldn't settle, crying her eyes out and my other daughter was being a monkey. He was so stressed! I said I do this by myself during the week and for the first time he looked at with me with suprise! I didn't mention that Tayla settles better in the sling than the pram lol.
Brisbabydreamer...I'm Tracy, 28 nearly 29. Living in Melbourne, married with two girls. Molly is almost 4 and Tayla 2 months. Welcome!
First time mum in melb... I have days i think I don't have the patience to be a mother. I've seen mothers who are so relaxed and feel so envious!
Sqiggles - I did the same - going out that is a few weeks back. It took me three days to get over my hangover. I am also having one smoke a day after giving up. I feel it relaxes me even though I know that isn't the truth.
Icugal- I can't believe how heavy your period was! You poor thing. Are you now anaemic?
Leashie- That must of been hard to share with everyone. You are so strong to have come so far. You should be very proud of yourself. I have clinical depression so I know a little about mental madness. I'm also on pills for the rest of my life.
Mumlilspunk- I had a similar experience with my MCHN and am due to go today. I don't want to go! I hope it is a different nurse. Then I can arrange to see someone different.
Tracy xx
hi again:wave:
i was just thinking of my outing to the bank the other day (oh what an exciting life i lead now!)
we were in the line behind a man and a little girl of about 4 years old.... she had a doughnut king bag and was pulling faces at my ds4. he looked at her then looked at me a few times and i just said "dont stare at her its rude look over at the toy box, you can go play if you like" he just stood by me holding the pram and this kid just kept rolling her eyes at him, sticking her tongue out and holding up the doughnut bag.
we both went to the counters about the same time and ds asked for a stamp on his hand so i held him up and the lady stamped his hand. he said thankyou and i put him back down on the floor. the little girl looked at him and said "ive got a doughnut nuuur" ds looked at her and said "ive got a stamp so bigger NUUUUR to you!" :laughing: :laughing:
the man standing with her gave me a filthy look as i was turning the pram to leave and right next to him ds said "she was a rude girl wasnt she mum" loud enough for the whole bank to hear!
:laughing:
kids can just make or break your day cant they!
JoJoMart
23-03-2007, 10:22
Leashie - big :hugs: to you. Sounds like you've been through a lot and come out the other side......I think that's fantastic & I hope you find all us bubhubbers supportive.
icugal - I think most of us feel a bit isolated even if we do know a lot of people.......I think especially in these early weeks when we are getting used to bubs & pretty house bound.
LMenz - my DH made a comment last night about how tired he was (and because he had a blood shot eye) and because he has to work he can't be getting up in the middle of the night. I said FINE but I'm having to deal with Liam 24/7 and he won't settle most of the time so I don't get hardly any sleep.........blokes just don't get it so I've asked him to mind Liam tomorrow for an hour or two while I go up the shops all by myself (yay) so I can have a break. I really dread getting up in the middle of the night especially when I can't settle Liam back to sleep.
My_lot - that's cute that your ds made that comment in the bank to the rude little girl! Some kids are s**ts are'nt they?!
Moggs - yep it's a hot one again today in Melb. I took a walk an hour ago with Liam in the pram which settles him to sleep and it was pretty warm. Are you coming to our meet next Thursday?
Hels - I've been reading about the thickening stuff for formula......might be worth a try. Liam doesn't chuck up a lot but tends to chuck up after each feed a bit and will arch his back and cry which makes me think he's in pain.
Me - I'm stuffed......it's been a long week and I'm dying for a decent sleep......Liam is fast asleep in his pram still (why won't he do this in his cot during the day?????) so I won't disturb him. I'm hoping we buy a new (used) car this weekend because our little hatch is too small and it puts me off going out in the car.
Have a good day everyone :)
:laughing: my_lot That was awesome! I'll share one of mine too.
I was shopping the other day and DS2 (whose also 4) was with me along with the girls, but i had bought some walnuts in the shells for DH.
Riley- "whose are these for mummy?"
Me- "daddy mate"
Riley-"wow, daddy's lucky isnt he mummy? Hes getting some nice big nuts":laughing:
Little did he realise how true it is:laughing:.
Did the Toys R Us thing today. Some of the stuff is great but a i have two still in nappies i spent nearly $100 on nappies!!! Geez, it feels like such a waste of money.
My Lot i dont know how your doing, washing all those adorable cloth nappies as well as having the 4 kids. I mean, i know your kids are older than mine but holy matey- your a trooper!
Hope evryone is well today! Im off for a nanna nap- i only have the girls and they are in bed.!!!
*Sparkles*
23-03-2007, 12:58
Just a quick post from me. Reece is in his basinette, supposed to be having a sleep but I can hear him making noises so he'll probably cry in a minute.
Yesterday he wouldn't settle much during the day, but as already mentioned it was very hot here in Melb. Even though we have evap cooling it's still quite warm in the house.
Last evening he went off to sleep in his swing for a while and we didn't get arsenic hour for once :yelclap:
He had a feed at 10pm then went to bed and slept until 5am!! Then went back to bed until 9.30am :smiliedance: I slept the whole time too (except for during his feed) so that's the most sleep I have had since he was born.
We are going out tomorrow with my parents but not sure where as it depends on how much walking I can do. I am still resting alot which drives me mad as I would like to be out and about. But next week I have got something planned everyday so I hope I am up for it :fingerscrossed:
Sorry no personals today, but have a great weekend everyone.
OMG it is so windy outside... I nearly got blown over while trying to rescue my clothes from the line. Any of you guys also about to lose the roof from your house ?? :)
Well, both DF and I had a **** nights sleep and we can't even blame Kaelan for it !! DF tossed and turned all night because of a head cold. His nose was completely blocked so he was having trouble breathing. As for me, well the muscles around my left shoulder blade seized up badly so I was in agonising pain and couldn't sleep either. I ended up having a hot shower very early this morning to try to loosen everything up and over the course of the day, the muscle has loosened a little. I've still got pain, but definately not as severe as it was overnight. Unfortunately, I seem to be prone to shoulder related problems. I've had a frozen shoulder before (that pain way worse than labour pain !!) and have also had to have cortisone shots into the joint previously. I hope my shoulder continues to improve though, because if it got any worse, I wouldn't be able to pick Kaelan up.
So now that I've had my whinge, how are you girls going?? Hope your babies have been kind to you :)
Leashie - Thankyou for sharing your story... it was very touching :hugs: You're obviously a very strong girl !!
Roopee - I've got the Fisher-Price Ocean Wonders Aquarium which sounds very similiar to the Tomy Sound and Light Show. Kaelan is completely entranced by it... he watches the 'fish' swim around and the music it plays is so beautiful.. very hypnotic !! This reminds me, I must buy more batteries !!
How long til hubby gets the vasectomy??
I haven't let my other half near me at all... especially now because I'm probably close to ovulating again. Even though we've successfully used natural family planning as contraception for years, I don't even want to take the risk. It's not that I don't want another baby (I'd love to be pregnant again), it's only because I need to give my body some recovery time after the baby and caesar.
mumslilspunk - I'm betting that you are doing a top job as a mum... ignore that MCHN !! Do you have the option of visiting another center?
My_lot - Those nappies are cute !! I tried putting a traditional terry nappy on Kaelan lastnight... what a disaster !! He's still too small. I couldn't even get the safety pins through and the bulk from the nappy itself made it hard for him to move his legs. Back to disposables for us.. at least for now :)
Oh good lord, I've jsut heard about the Burnley Tunnel crash on Sky News... how awful !!!
penny-
try a snappy on that nappy.
get them at big W about $5 for a 3 pack. it will grip the nappy in 3 points its a T shape.
i find the terry flats very bulky between his legs no matter what fold i do...thats why i like the MCN so much
Oh good lord, I've jsut heard about the Burnley Tunnel crash on Sky News... how awful !!!
Sounds horrible..... I was on my way back from my grandpa's house when my MIL rang me in tears to see if my DH was ok as he drives through the tunnel daily. Talk about panic merchants!!!! Of course he's fine....playing golf actually but he says it's for "work" yeah right!!
Both Jack and I are stuffed...I put him down after his feed and he hasn't made a peep....very unusual
Ist Time Mum - Enjoy the time to yourself!! Sounds like it's well deserved........I always feel like a new person when I get out on my own for a bit. I wonder how our DH's would go being home with a baby 24/7?? :laughing:
Hels - Reece is sleeping so well......that's fantastic you are able to catch up on some sleep. I can only hope Jack does the same soon
Penny - I meant to ask you the other day - What sort of crafts do you do?
Lauren - I would like to think of myself as a scrapbooker mainly, however, I seem to be more of a collector of scrapbooking materials than anything else :D I have all the pretty papers, embellishments and equipment etc... but these days I don't seem to actually get around to completing any pages.
The closest that I've come to scrapbooking recently, was completing Kaelans name letters to put on the wall
Completed KAELAN letters (http://www.penny-clark.com/temp/wall_name.jpg) (photo taken before the letters were put on the wall)
I've also done a lot of cross-stitch. I only do my own original designs (using computer software) so I get greater satisfaction when I complete them. A few years ago I was obsessed with Star Trek Voyager (yes, a Trekker..I'm a geek !!), so I designed a couple of Voyager-related cross stitches. More recently, I worked on an Elmo pattern for Kaelan's room
U.S.S. Voyager (http://www.penny-clark.com/temp/voy_stitch.jpg)
Captain Janeway (http://www.penny-clark.com/temp/janeway_stitch.jpg)
Elmo (http://www.penny-clark.com/temp/elmo_stitch.jpg) (If anyone wants the Elmo pattern, let me know).
I've also tried making teddy bears, though I need to perfect that skill a little :)
Other than completing 40 home made birth announcement cards during Kaelans first week home, the only true crafty thing that I have completed recently is plaster casts of Kaelans hands and feet to frame (I was too stingy to pay $200 to let someone else come in and do it). I'm so happy (and quite proud of) how they turned out.
Kaelans framed hand and feet casts (http://www.penny-clark.com/temp/k_hands_feet.jpg) (the reflection makes it hard to see clearly)
Does anyone else do crafts?
*Sparkles*
23-03-2007, 18:46
Penny - I love all your work, well done! I am quite arty but I don't have time to do anything lately. The only thing I have done recently is paint our whole house eg all walls, ceilings, feature walls (including metallic paint) and all of the woodwork with the gloss. It took me about 2 years from start to finish (on and off) but saved us about $5000!! I was still painting ceilings with a roller at 28 weeks pregnant!
Actually, I really love doing home renos, I have always wanted to buy an old dump and completely renovate it, like they did on"The Block". Anyone else into that sort of thing?
Penny - Great stuff! Especially the cross stitch...and to make your own designs is cool!
I make jewellery - necklaces, earrings, brooches (better not say too much as it's also my business :shame: ) I was making resin bangles and rings but had to give that up when I fell pregnant cos of the chemicals...... I also do cardmaking, (very basic) knitting and stamping. I have a feeling I could start scrapbooking now that Jack's here......finding the time to do it all is the hardest thing atm.
I'd love to be able to sew but I don't think I have the patience. I'm a huge fan of craft shows/fairs....I get so inspired :D
Sorry to post yet again... just can't help myself !! :)
Hels... I've only done limited painting in our house because I discovered that I really, really hate doing it *LOL* When I was about nine weeks pregnant, I painted a feature wall in the bedroom of our new house (http://www.penny-clark.com/building/feature.html) with Suede Effects paint in the colour "Cranberry". I'll never ever forget the experience because I was so sick with morning sickness, I was nearly throwing up into the paint tin !! :D
Lauren... Would like to see some of your jewellery... maybe you should bring some to the meet-up next week :)
Oh, and speaking of the meet-up. According to the RACV website, from my front door to Juzzy's it is 99 kilometres each way !!! What the??? That's one heck of a drive !!
SuperFrog
23-03-2007, 21:09
Great crafty stuff guys!
Can't remember who it was, but someone here inspired me to make a nappy stacker. Didn't quite get it finished before Liam arrived, and I haven't got back to finishing it. We have builders in our house at the moment finishing our extension, so i haven't got anywhere to set up my sewing machine :crying: By the time I get it finished I'll probably be potty-training him!
I'm trying to get back into some craft stuff. I find it therapeutic, Made a novelty box for a friend yesterday... decorated like a cupcake! I'd show you a picture but I'm not sure how to upload them here.
I think at the moment I would enjoy some craft projects that I can finish in one sitting... maybe and hour or two of work. Will have to brainstorm some ideas.
Tried scrapbooking once and my page looked like a really bad school project by a Year 7 student... who failed. Doesn't help that my husband is a graphic artist. Makes my efforts look pathetic. Oh well.
It's quite refreshing to talk about something not related to babies!
oooow craft....:D
my mother is teacher in a major craft store... so she knows just about every thing there is to know and if she doesnt she teaches herself and then perfects it! she has work going into the easter show this week...an embroidered blanket she made for Eli...
she taught me to sew before i started school (though i dont sew now!) and both my girls own sewing machines and can make little bags and things.
ive been scrapbooking for a few years now. ive moved onto little photo books (mind you the last one i did was at xmas time)
ive also done the letters like penny..only i did them on a board to make a door sign for their rooms so the letters are smaller... the girls got the mod podge all over theirs while they were "helping" so its nice and shiny!...must finish the boys one.
got to go baby awake!
ill be back later...
I am sorry to bring the thread away from craft but i have something important to say.
Over the past few days i have been through so many different feelings. I have felt a lot of anger and also have come to accept some aspects of my situation.
I appreciate everyone who has shared their stories. There certainly seems to be a lot of people who have been pressured into breast feeding and this has lead to many serious problems for them. But having read all the negative breast feeding issues and postives bottle feeding stories, i almost feel like i too am being compelled to stop breast feeding as this could solve a lot of my problems.
Well i have given this some serious thought as i really respest your advice and opinions. Why am i such a breast feeding nazi? it certainly seems odd that i am so determined that nothing other than breast milk will go into my childs mouth - especially when i was happyy to have an elective caesar!
On thursday I was in tears and was really feeling like i could shake lily just to shut her up. i went to my mums and it was then i decided to go to the chemist. I bought a tub of karicare food thickener and some s26 gold sticks. this was a HUGE thing for me. I have been trying the thickener in some breast milk at the 2 times a day that lily is rattty. i havent used the formula yet but it is there if i need it.
I am feeling a lot better and am trying to get out and about more rather than just stay at home with a crying baby.
I have decided to continue breast feeding the majority of the time. but with these concessions - i will express and let someone else or myself give her a full bottle feed a day so i can drink, go out, sleep etc. if my milk supply is affected then so be it. i am willing to try formula top ups or full formuala feeds depending how i feel each day. it is also ok for me to completely stop breast feeding at any time so that i can get a bit of my life back.
The reasons why i want to continue to breast feed at this stage is the following:
1. most of my problems are stemming from lilys reflux (and just the general adjustment of coping 24/7 with a baby). this occurs whether she is breast or bottle feed and i have been told that my breast milk will be more easy for her to digest.
2. i have heaps of milk, no pain, lily latches well. breast feeding is easy for me (now).
3. i have a supportive family.
I am beginning to accept that it is going to be a long road with the relux and something that she will gradually grow out of. Thank you for your support with this.
I hope none of the above is offensive to anyone. i have reread this post many times trying to choose my words carefully. we are all different and each need to make the decision that is right for ourselves and our babies.
i would love some advice about how much/when people used the thickener. does anyone use it who is still BF and if so do you do a bottle feed of ebm and thickener or just try feeding bub a thick paste during the feed? also any advice from those mums who have lived with a refluxy baby and survived would be great.
Thanks for reading this long and boring post.
Ziggy - I applaud you !! You sought support when you were at your lowest, you've taken steps to formula feed if you need to, but you've also continued with the breast feeding. You've basically established a plan and a back-up plan which is great.
A reflux baby is so hard to deal with, so you already have my greatest admiration.
I hope, that if anything, writing out that post helped you to get some stuff off your chest. Writing posts in this thread can be very a cathartic experience, which in turn helps reduce stress.
Big :hugs: to you.
jojojonsey
24-03-2007, 11:19
Hi everyone!
I haven't been posting in this thread at all though I've read just about every post and check it every day. I've kind of hung back because a bit. :o I am also completely hopeless at ongoing personals LOL - I can't keep track. I will continue to blame this on placenta brain until Baxter is in his teens.
Ziggy - I was at my daughters school yesterday and was talking to her teacher from last year as she was nursing Baxter and we were talking about breastfeeding and she said she breastfed all three of hers but her first was a silent reflux baby and what a stressful situation it was! She said she was always feeding her - little and often and that she is a pro and brining up wind. That was all I heard in our quick conversation - I don't know it it helps at all but she went on to have two more so it must have got better:)
I enjoy breastfeeding. I am the laziest person in the world so avoiding bottles and all the work that goes with them suits me perfectly. I understand that others do not enjoy it, are unable to do so, or soldier on but find it really difficult. I think the fact that so many people do encounter difficulties means that people who have positive experiences don't want to talk about it - for fear of making those mothers who couldn't feel bad. I know I feel like that most of the time! Whether it's breast or bottle all about what is best for your situation.
I think some of the issues with breastfeeding is that we tend to overcomplicate raising babies. Concerned about weight and mils drunk and hours between feeds etc. I don't manage myself like that - so why would I try to monitor my babies day the same way? Then there is the advice from so called professionals when each one tells you something different.:rolleyes:
Anway - I recently followed a link from one of our bubhubbers which I felt explained breastfeeding in a way that I related to and which I found really helpful and interesting.
http://www.tribalbaby.org/Breastfeeding.html
I also co-sleep while breastfeeding. Baxter may go down in his cot after a feed in the early evening so that I can read my other two stories or spend time with my DP but he then goes into our bed for the rest of the night. It means that I can basically breastfeed in my sleep. Now I know a lot of people are uncomfortable with co-sleeping and a lot of people do it but won't talk about it. Well I do it - love it and love not being tired and it suits our situation. A know it isn't for everyone.
I didn't come from a family who breastfeed. My mother had traumatic births and never had any milk. My three sisters all chose to bottlefeed from Day one. DP's mother was unable to feed. None of my extended family fed. My mother is 70-odd and has only just stoped freaking out when I feed when we go out for coffee (it took three babies!). And while she is supportive of my choice she can't relate or offer advice.
Wow I am really sorry about this huge post! All the best and many hugs to all the Fab Feb mummas and bubbas.
ziggy- i just dont know what to say. :hugs:
i have had four and had very, very different experiences with b/f. at the moment i know it would be alot easier to f/f... i would get a hell of alot more sleep for starters! and my dp calls me a b/f nazi because i wont let him give Eli formula "to shut him up" ... but i am still b/f..somedays i enjoy it somedays i wonder why im bothering...
i too have a refluxer, my 4th refluxer, and i tell you it does get any easier! i still have moments where i am rushing to go out and he will throw up on his clothes for the umpteenth time! and we sawy the other way to with the gulping and screaming.
i do not use the thickener with Eli. i am using mylanta on the bad days and nothing on the not so bad days. i know i will get a script if it gets to the point where he is in pain daily...for now he is gaining weight so i will continue what we are doing.
youve come to the decision to keep b/f so now work out what to do about the reflux..if its the thickener or medication its trial and error til you find something that does work and even then it might one day and not the next.
i also have formula and thickener here (got them while i was pregnant-guess i just knew id get another spewer!)
hang in there it is a hard road with a refluxer..
SuperFrog
24-03-2007, 13:19
Ziggy - I don't think anyone here in the Feb Mum's thread is judgemental about breastfeeding or formula feeding. I'd like to think that is the same for the general population but sadly it isn't so. Big cheers for you in coming up with a solution that works for you and your baby. I've come to realise that this parenting thing really is a bit of trial and error. If something isn't working, try something else until you find that magic solution!
ziggy - good on you for making a choice and seeking help.
i dont have a problem with formula feeding and am sorry if i have said something that may suggest it.
I have been feeling the pressure to breast feed from everyone and have only recently made a choice that i will give formula if need be. My milk supply has suffered a bit from this choice but after suffering from mastitis and everything i decided i need to do what is best for me.
If i dont i will be unhappy and when i am unhappy, not only myself but Cassidy will lose out in that situation.
So once again, good on you for taking steps to make yourself happier. Lily will also benefit from this.
I have been expressing and giving Cassidy EBM as well as formula top ups when it seems that she hasnt had enough. I feel as though at the moment this is what is best for me and MY DAUGHTER. No one else has the right to tell me how to raise her or how i should be feeding her.
Anyways - about crafts and things... i wish i was a bit more crafty... lol.... i would love to be able to make something beautiful for Cassidys room but i just dont seem to have that part of the brain!!
I love the idea of scrapbooking but i dont want to go out and buy all the stuff if i am no good at it IYKWIM... Can someone please tell me if it is really hard... or if it is something that is idiot proof? LOL... stupid question really....
I do like to write however, when i was in high school i guess that was one of my most creative outlets. I havent written a story for awhile but i really would love to, just need to find my muse again really i guess.
Penny - 100ks round trip!! WTH!!! That is a long way!! Errrrrrrr i didnt realise that it was that far?!?!?! Maybe we should have it somewhere more central? I feel bad kinda asking you to drive all that way? Geez, for me thats almost stay overnight material :laughing: :laughing: Pack a sleeping bag and a pillow!!
to everyone else... i hope you are all well and enjoying the weekend...
im off to make some cookies!
Penny - 100ks round trip!! WTH!!! That is a long way!! Errrrrrrr i didnt realise that it was that far?!?!?! Maybe we should have it somewhere more central? I feel bad kinda asking you to drive all that way? Geez, for me thats almost stay overnight material :laughing: :laughing: Pack a sleeping bag and a pillow!!
No... not 100kms round trip.. that's 100kms each way !!! (so 200kms round trip). That's like driving from Melbourne to Benalla !! *LOL*
As long as Kaelan sleeps in the car (which he usually does) and that I don't get lost (which is more likely ;) ), then it will be fine.
I'm quite used to driving long distances for work. When I lived in Wodonga, I used to drive to Wangaratta and back nearly every day (150km round trip). Then I ended up driving to Corowa nearly everyday for two years as well (about 130km round trip). No wonder my poor old Gemini eventually died... it was from exhaustion !! ;)
EskimoMumma
24-03-2007, 16:01
Where u hailing from Penny??
If I was still living in Werribee I would be in for teh same kind of hike but me and the DD's are use to it anyway.
Ziggy- no one is being judgemental and I take my hat off to you for still breastfeeding, your a stronger woman than I.:hugs:
So far I've been well. DD2 has been fantastic, feeding sleeping well and normally like any near 8 weeker would I suppose. DD1 on the other hand..well..shes bringing the terrible twos on early :banghead:
Ziggy - :hugs: Good on you for making a decision. I also have formula as a back up....you just never know. There is absolutely nothing wrong with dropping a feed so you can have a break - you still need to be a happy, functioning person. Reflux sounds so tough but hang in there, your doing a great job :thumbsup: I think Hels has been using a thickener...she should be able to give you some tips.
ME - Jack's had a really good day, he's going down much better for his day naps......BUT he's back to 3 hourly feeding. I'm wondering if he's having a 6 week growth spurt?? Did anyone elses bub have one around this time? I don't mind too much as he's going through the night for stretches of 5-6 hours.
I can finally say B/F is getting a bit more enjoyable. Some days I still feel like chucking it in but it's usually just after a bad feed or if Jack is really tired. Jack really loves it too...his eyes light up when I lay him down like he knows what's coming...he also makes this cute humming noise when he eats and chomps down on my boob :laughing:
I love hearing about what sort of crafts everyone is in to....keep it coming!!
Were off to a house warming party tonight. My friend gave me her Baby Bjorn and we did a trial run today while shopping and Jack loved it, he fell straight to sleep so we will take him in that. Hopefully he will behave.
Enjoy the rest of your weekend lovely ladies :wave:
penny as long as ur sure thats ok... lol alright so 200kms!! thats even worse!! HEHE!! Craziness really! I know this side of the city pretty well so if u get lost u can call me if you want!!
PM me is u want my mobile... same goes for anyone else who is coming to the meet actually... i dont want any lovely ladies getting lost on the way...
i used to live in a place called colac and would come up to melbourne every weekend to go to the footy or shopping or something, thats 150kms one way. Now that we live in Somerville and if we want to go visit my mum (she still lives in colac) we are looking at 200kms one way! So i know what you are saying about driving long distances...
lauren oh we are spost to be getting a baby bjorn off DPs sister, i have been a bit skeptical about using it but everyone i have spoken to says that they are great... cant wait to get mine and have a go!
Not much happening over her obviously since i have manged to post twice in about an hour... my cookies have been made and are delish!
Mite have to start on dinner soon to keep me entertained.
*Sparkles*
24-03-2007, 17:56
Ziggy - Good for you hun for making some decisions that suit you and for standing your ground.
I BF for 1 month and I gave it up because Reece wasn't putting on enough weight. I was expressing for a while and felt like I was permanently attached to the breast pump, it drove me mad. I became alot happier when I put him on the bottle. From my own experience Reece started to thrive as soon as he went on the bottle. I know they say breast milk is best but for my baby it wasn't.
Anyway, I hope you don't mind me giving you a bit of advice about the formula and thickener?
The best way to introduce the formula is to mix it with expressed breast milk in the same bottle. Maybe do a 60/40 combination to start with and increase from there. That way Lily's stomach will be able to get used to it more gently.
With the thickener, I just give 1 scoop per bottle, that's all Reece needs as he does not have reflux but is just a bit sickie. Start off with a small amount and build it up gradually. I found it has made his poos alot more runny so you don't want Lily to get diahorrea if you gave her too much too soon.
I hope this helps :hugs:
Sorry for the longest post ever (i got a message that it was too long so had to break it down to two posts - sorry)... but have tasked DH with looking after Coen for the day so l can catch up with everyone - l have had withdrawal symptoms - DH thinks l am an addict (well he jokes about it) - but he also understands how much support and advice l get from you guys - and he has started saying things like why don't you post a message on your forum, ask the Feb mums... so l think he is a secret devotee too!!!
So to that end, has anybody thought about highchairs - as already discussed Toys R Us has a sale on at the moment and has some fairly good prices on hi-chairs - if so - or for those mums with other kids, what (practically) should l look for in a highchair?
My 2nd shopping trip went a whole heap smoother when l took Coen in his Ergo baby carrier (thanks for reminding me Leashie) – Oh and why didn’t l think of parking near the shopping trolley bay??? Thanks for your advice!!! Honestly some days l wonder where my brain is… l thought l was so smart cos l got a car park right out front of the supermarket… but oh so far from the trolley bays!!!
Welcome to Feb mums Brisbabydreamer, I’m Sandy and celebrated my 30th birthday whilst 8 ½ months pregnant, DH, bubs and l live in the northern suburbs of Melbourne. Coen will be 4 weeks on Monday…
Ziggy – hope the reflux is getting easier to deal with – isn’t it always the way – you go in to get help with something – and it works perfectly whilst you're there (l’m talking of your two perfect breast feeds whilst at the child health care centre). Hope you had a wonderful wedding anniversary (despite all your challenges at the moment)… I am so happy 4 you that you now have a feeding plan… you will (hopefully) probably find it mentally easier to approach each b’fing session now cos there won’t be so much pressure to perform or keep going (you have a back-up) Good luck!! Your sanity is so much more important than anything else - l just keep thinking of the fact that l (and both my brothers) weren't brought on breast milk (mum couldn't) - and back then the formula was nothing like now - it was essentially sweetened condensed milk (mixed with water l think - WTF? - that can't be nutriotious can it???)
…People tell me i look well but i feel like sh!t somedays. I just want to go to bed and sleep and then when i do i feel guilty that i should be doing the housework so i get up again. My DH isnt much help most of the time so i feel like im going it alone. Its not a nice feeling but hey, he's good with the kids so i cant really complain can i. Some help around here would be nice though. I tried to tell him that i would like someone to come in and do the ironing or just clean for 4 hrs every MONTH, you know do the things you dont seem to get time to do? Like the skirting boards and all the stuff but no he told me it was a waste of money. Bet if i requested a mower man he would have been all for it!
Anyway that enough of me- i'll make that extra post now.
I think many of us can sympathise with the tiredness and then the guilt when we do try and catch up on the zzzz’s during the day… oh L is there some other way you can convince your husband you need a hand? Suggest that he has complete care of the kids for a few hours every week – where you are totally off limits so you can get some of those things done – or perhaps (and this is just a bit cheeky) just don’t do the ironing for a few days and when he runs out of shirts act a bit harassed (shouldn’t take much acting – cos l bet your super busy) and say – l just haven’t got to it yet, can you iron a shirt today – l will get to the ironing today – then later that night- bring up getting someone to do the ironing again??? Forget the skirting boards, l am sure you could let those go for months and he wouldn’t notice a thing… Or you could always try My-Lot’s trick ask him to do the ironing/skirting boards – then he might be more open to hiring someone???
Roopee – oh – thank you for sharing your 1st experience w breastfeeding – my heart ached for you when l read it – l am sure your DH is a really top guy – but l must admit to being furious w him when l read it – l was sitting in your shoes feeling the guilt, despair etc. (and was almost in tears) l know you would have been feeling – and he just didn’t get it – or didn’t want to know about it – that must have been so isolating for you… thanks again for having the strength and trust in us to share it, it really does help hearing that we’re not alone in feeling down about one thing or another –do you think it has helped you to get it off your chest as well? Juzzy - oh and its awful to hear that it is happening to you too… why can’t they just understand??? DO they think that you wouldn’t do it if you could and still maintain your emotional/physical wellbeing? That being bombarded by the message BF’ing is the “Best” start at life for our children that any mother would come to the decision not to breastfeed easily??? Whether it’s a mental/physical reason – it doesn’t matter- if it is effecting your happiness and mental state that is NOT good for the child!!! Oh l want to come over with one of the blow up hammers (like in the bank add) and knock your partners over the head with it!!! Look after yourself!!!! Oh and Juzzy, l feel just like you described (l wouldn’t have been able to put it into words but “loss of identity” pretty much hits the nail on the head), l have been in tears feeling that l just want to get out of the house… especially when it took me about 2 hours to get out the door to walk to the end of the street and Coen screamed the whole time, l wanted to run back (with the pusher) to stop him from crying – but l couldn’t, my boobs are too big to run, and my bum too sore… so l tried picking him up, pushing the pram with the other hand and the whole time just thinking what am l doing wrong??? And l hate not being able to get on here and just check up on things… but if l get on here when he is awake and alert and quiet l feel guilty that l am not playing with him…
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Hels- welcome back!!! Big hugs for all your pain and big claps that it has finally been sorted!!! Like Reece, Coen doesn’t sleep much during the day, and between 2 hourly feeds, changing and settling him l don’t really get much chance to do anything else, thankfully l don’t have any trouble (now) b’fing but every 2 hours is a bit exhausting (expecially considering it can take between 40-60 minutes for a feed) – so that only gives me one hour to change, settle etc. him before it all starts again… Congratulations btw on the big sleep… l think Reece probably knew you needed it!!!
And l can’t remember who mentioned it, but l also have problems with Coen falling asleep 10-15 minutes into a feed, after much trial and error l have now worked out changing him will usually revive him, if he wants more he will latch back on for a substantial amount of time, if he is not really hungry he will either refuse or latch on for a couple of minutes before losing interest… it does draw out the process a bit… but well at least l know he is getting as much as he can wants…
Butterflymama - l think it is quite normal to hand your child over to people you trust and get some "me" time or go and get some things done… l try and do the same! And don’t ever forget how wonderfully you are doing – l have a few friends that have been in your position – one at 19 y/o- 10 years down the track, she is married to a new man, has a 2nd child to and is extremely happy – but she did have some rough times… but just keep in mind when lillyana is 21 you will only be in your early 40’s and be able to grow up and old together… My mum was a young mum and its great… l on the other hand will be 51 (god that’s scary) when Coen has his 21st… and l still want to have another child in a couple of years…
Shelby –re . frustrated partners (and for that matter – mums) l keep telling myself (and had a conversation w DH about it) that crying is their only way to communicate with us - be it boredom, wind, lonliness, too hot/cold, dirty nappy etc. – Its not easy to take the sound of their crying in the wee hours of the morning, but l find repeating that in my head sometimes helps.
Mumslilpunk – your not forgotten… we’d love to see you at the Melbourne meet if its all possible, but if its not, then perhaps next time will be… Oh and by the way – like you l don’t get AF naturally – l was on the pill so was getting it but it was a withdrawal bleed… l had to go on tablets to make me ovulate—l was told it would probably take several months to get the dosage right – but not for me, first time we tried – little Coen was conceived… so l was very fortunate… hopefully my luck will hold out for a 2nd child in a couple of years… Just need to find out what l have to do between now and then to ensure l don’t destroy my ovaries (l release about 5 ovum (eggs) a month, none of them mature so they all just sit there as cysts clogging up (and destroying my ovaries) – so need to get back on the pill, but can’t go back on the pill whilst breatfeeding – so a topic for conversation at my 6 weeks appt.)… Oh your MHN sounds like an absolute b**ch!!! Aren’t they supposed to be supportive?
Leashie - well done – it sounds like you and DS were meant to be together – he saved your life and you gave him his – that’s a very special bond that you have… it is terrific that you are enjoying your time with DD and have found a way to cope and thrive with your disorder – you must be an incredibly strong woman - at 23 you have had your fair share of challenges and come out on top – you should feel really proud of yourself! (l don't mean that to sound condescenging - l hope it doesn't)
My-Lot – loved the bank story – kids are great!!
??? I have a lot of trouble getting Coen to sleep during the day (usually – but not today for some unknown reason), l suspect it is because he refuses to be wrapped during the day and then goes on to hit his little fists against the basinett and startle himself awake… so we have decided to set up the cot for day sleeps – any other thoughts or advice people might have on this one?
Jojojonsey - l really enjoyed reading your post – whilst l had some attachment probs. Initially – along w sore nipples – bf’ing is going extremely well 4 me… sometimes l get frustrated w how often he wants 2 feed, but then l am also get very proud when l get him weighed and they say how well he is doing… and l feel bad about admitting to this, but sometimes l am quite happy (particularly when l am at my inlaws) to go into another room and feed him by ourselves…. My mil basically doesn’t let me have any time with my own son when she is around… so this gives us (me & Coen) some alone time. I also made it a bit easier on myself by expressing 4 the first night feed, so that l get a good 5 hours sleep before our first feed (unless he needs a top up – but even then its usually quite short – and DH will settle him if need be – as it is officially his shift)…
Me - l did something pretty stupid the other day – l stopped taking my pain relief cos l thought my coccyx was getting heaps better and was manageable… well l forgot to take into account that the pain medication was cumulative… two days later l could barely sit, couldn’t stand for long periods and was having difficulty holding Coen – so needless to say l’m back on pain medication… but l still have 4 days until our Melb. meet so crossing my fingers that l will be able to make it…
Okay - promise to somehow find time to check up on bubhub more often - l have missed it so much!
ziggy- You didnt offend me at all. I doubt that your post would have offended anyone. Good on you for perserveering! You are dealing with alot at the moment- i think you need lots of:hugs:.
harleyq- it did feel alot better to write it down. And yes my Dh is great most of the time BUt like us all he has his faults. It took along time for me to get over it and sometimes i think im still not. His actions were really insensitive and he STILL harps on about it and makes snide sideways remarks but i have told him that to give him a small idea as to what it felt like for m to breastfeed he needed to "drag his d00dle along a rusty barbedwired fence for 5 mins, then attach the vacuum to it for 1hr, then as he takes off the vacuum to put it into an powerpoint and switch it on". His eyes started watering and i said i would rather birth 10 babies consecutively than ever b/f again. He understands that he hurt me but i dont think he gets how the way he went about it shattered my sense of self if that makes sense. He made me doubt my abilities and no one has the right to do that.
highchairs- well i had a normal highchair with Cooper for awhile and ended up getting rid of it, it was too bulky, and got a seat that attatches to a normal dining chair instead. It was MUCH better, didnt take up any space and it was portable. The one i have also lays back so can be used from a young age.
When the babies are just starting their foods 4-6mths i have always just used the rocker/swing as its supported their heads and back better. Might be worth looking into anyway.
me- well i had a horror night last night. Cody was awake till 2am then woke again at 3.30 when i finally fed her again and she finally slept! Then i had to get up to the kids at 6 when they woke so i was tired as h3ll today. DH of course slept thru the lot:banghead: and i was cranky!!
Shes unsettled tonight too so looks like im in for more of the same, shes once again unsettled but she has spent the last few days in and out of the house and in and out of the car so tomorrow we are staying home in the rain and cooler weather- hope she figures it out soon or im going to go nuts!
Have a good weekend everyone:hugs:
Hels - thanks for the advice. i thought the thickener might lead to constipation not diahorrhea. thanks for the tip!
Anyone else using thickener?
Jojonesey -welcome back. please say hi more often. thanks for sharing your positive parenting experiences.
baby slings - we had a cheapie from target but it used to hurt my neck. so after trying my sil babybjorn active carrier i decided to get the real thing. got one on the bub hub classifies for $100 (virtually half price). goota love bubhub :thumbsup:
thanks again for all the support ladies. after writing that post yesterday i felt so much better. lily must have picked up on that as she had a great day too! hoping to go out for lunch with my husband today and leave lilys at mums!! :fingerscrossed:
have a lovely sunday.
morning everyone:wave:
have we changed the clocks back?:confused:
harleyQ~ loved the long post! good on you! i get on here for my "time out" from dp and the kids! better for me that hanging out on the balcony with a fag! ooouch to the pain. i did that after my c-sect i thought id be ok without the click click drug up system they hooked me up to. only im allergic to codine so i went from pethadine to panadol 12 hours after the op! ouch..... and i will be putting up the cot this weekend for the same reason. i have seen a thing in taget to wrap them and keep the done up but im not going that way because i think its such a short time use for $40 and my last babe so i will wrap and put him down in the cot during the day so if he unwraps hes not hitting the side...i really thought our bassinete would last longer but hes only got about 4 inches before he hits his head on one end and his feet on the other. i had a wicker basket for dd1 (jee thats showing age!) and wooden cradles for the other two and my little prems got months of use out of them.
butterflymumma- i do the same thing with my baby...if anyone comes over i give him to them and then run around doing things! most of my friends have kids and dont mind..
im very quick to hand him over to family friends and any smart *** that comments!
i was out at a vinnies shop looking for dressup clothes for dd to be a convict in her school play..so the place is full of old ducks and eli is crying (like he always does from car to pram) id held him walking around one shop and then walked to the other next door...i just get in the door and this lady comes over and says " oh hes a new one..oh poor little darling hes crying for his mummy" and she just kept on and on about him being new and him crying
so i swerve the pusher around her and hunt out something "convicty".. she came over to me again and said "new babies need to be held when they cry...poor little darling" when he went from grizzle to scream i picked him up and when he stopped i put him back in the pusher and he started up again..she came over to me and said "oh he just needs a cuddle poor little mite he just wants a cuddle and then he will be ok" bla bla bla so i took Eli out of the pram and handed him straight to her. she held him with this shocked look on her face while i said "go ahead and cuddle him then"
my friend i was shopping with was also looking like id slapped her..shes used to me handing him over to her all the time but never seen me do this! but really! i get so sick of everyone giving advice like i have no clue what im doing with him!
mums lil spunk- how are you going with jacks terrible twos! fun and games isnt it...and i remember how hard it is to have one doing that and a new baby..hang out for billy to be an angel..they dont all do it..i had one who did and two who didnt- mind you they did do the f**&$#n fours tho:laughing: oh i dont mean to scare you..jack will preobably breeze through the fours!
roopee- whats your experience with the TT and the FF - youve got one of each right now..jeeez i feel for you..when im getting mad at dp for not helping i think of you with four younger than mine and i know it would be alot harder than my lot.
ooow i want some sleep:sleeping: im so sick of feelig drunk and ill i drink is water!
dp is at work..i wonder why he even comes home somedays- he may as well sleep at work!
Morning ladies..
Well, how much am I appreciating my DF right now?? For the last two nights he has taken K and slept in the spare room which has given me two full nights of sleep (10hrs the first, 11hrs the second). OMG, I feel like a new person. I think he realised that since Kaelan has been born, I've pretty much done all of it on my own (with the exception of one night feed out of a 24 hour day)... so he decided to give me a break... and a much appreciated break it was !!
Funnily enough though, I've been finding myself waking up in the morning, completely missing my son like crazy !! It was like I hadn't seen him for a week... I just can't wait to get up and see his gorgeous little face. Anyways, I hope I haven't rubbed anyone up the wrong way posting this (particularly the exceptionally sleep deprived), but I just had to share my (temporary) good fortune.
Where u hailing from Penny??
Craigieburn, the a$$ end of the world *LOL* Actually, it's not too bad... just far away from EVERYTHING. Craigieburn is the last suburb on Sydney Rd/Hume Highway on the way to Sydney.
Lauren - Hope did the housewarming party go?? Did Jack behave himself?? He'd surely have to me more user friendly in public than my son !!
DF and I decided to go food shopping last night, and half way around the supermarket, K started screaming for food (even though he'd been fed before we left).. so DF ended up carrying K around whilst feeding him and 'pushing' the stroller with his hip.. and I pushed the trolley. Of course, there were no trolleys with the built-in baby seats available because they were in use and/or missing (we had to go back home again to get the pram... hence the reason why we had a pram AND a trolley to push). Craigieburn Safeway are SO going to be getting a complaint letter from me about the lack of baby/child friendly trolleys available.
Anyways, getting back to my original point (I get off-topic so easily :D ).. I hope that Jack doesn't start screaming as soon as he gets out in public like Kaelan does !!)
Hels - I'm considering buying some thickener today because K has has been vomitting quite a lot in the last week. If it does make his poos runny then that might not be a bad thing as he's been quite constipated. I even bought some prune juice to put in his bottle (apparently you can put watered down prune juice in for constipation)... however, I haven't used it because it occurs to me that I don't actually know how much to put in (does anybody know btw?)
Ziggy - I hope you have a lovely day today... you reallly deserve it !!
My_lot - *LOL* at you for handing the lady your baby.. I reckon I'd do the same thing !!
I'm not adverse to handing visitors the baby for awhile so that I can do things around the house... it gives me a chance to get stuff done, and let's face it, probably all our visitors of late are there to see the baby anyway, so most of them love the chance to hold K.
I think I can hear K stirring again. DF and I are going to attempt to go shopping today at Greensborough Plaza but I'm sure we'll spend most of our time in the parents room instead of actually in the shops (K always wants feeding it seems). Our boy hates shopping !! :D
Lauren - Hope did the housewarming party go?? Did Jack behave himself?? He'd surely have to me more user friendly in public than my son !!
It was great!! It wasn't just a housewarming....my friend and her fiance got secretly married the day before and then announced it at the party!! :yelclap: I was completly shocked...I'm so glad we went now. Pity we couldn't stay longer and clelebrate with them
Jack was so good. He didn't sleep, DH just carried him in the baby bjorn and he was happy. Everyone was paying him heaps of attention of course. After a feed he nodded off to sleep so we thought we'd head home.
He's normally pretty good out in public bar one incident at highpoint where he just screamed from one end to the other. I'm glad I was with DH so we could have a laugh about it to each other
Enjoy your day shopping.....and well done on getting all that sleep (and YES I am jealous!!! :D )
my_lot - You crack me up with your stories :laughing: Your avatar picture is lovely too
Ziggy - Have a fab lunch!!
Roopee - I hope you can manage some sleep.... :hugs:
Harleyq - Jack has been having trouble sleeping during the day too. He's slowly getting better and most days he will send himself off to sleep after a little bit of shhhing from me. I spent quiet a few days getting him into a nap/bedtime routine...... I would put him down before he got too tired. Try and wrap him (he doesn't like it either but tolerates it when he's not overtired) and then leave the room. If he cries I will go in and pat him a bit and shhhh until he settles and then leave again. I just kept repeating this until he finally nods off to sleep. I also play music at every day nap. The first two days were torture....but now he's pretty good as long as I put him down before he gets too tired. If he screams uncontrollably I will give him a little cuddle then start again. Hope that helps...I've found getting him to sleep one of the most challenging things so far
Hope everyone else is well....catch ya later!
Hels - I love your new avatar...what a gorgeous smile!!
*Sparkles*
25-03-2007, 17:19
Thanks LMenz, my dad took the photo and he's taken loads of nice one's. I have been busy printing some off today for the album and have put some in frames :D
Last night Reece woke at 3am and then 6.30am (as he was filling his nappy :rolleyes: ) so not such a good night for us. During the course of the morning DH got poo'ed and puked on and I got wee'd on so it wasn't a good start to the day. Then later I changed another pooey nappy and he hadn't quite finished so it went everywhere. My MIL came to take my folks out to lunch and there's me on my hands and knees scrubbing poo off the carpet! :laughing:
I have bought a little plastic seat that goes in the bath so I will use it tonight. He likes sitting in it so mum is currently feeding him in it on the kitchen bench. We wouldn't leave him unattended in it as there is no strap but it's great for feeding, I could use it on the couch too.
Hope everyone has had a great weekend.
harleyq- it did feel alot better to write it down.... ... i have told him that to give him a small idea as to what it felt like for m to breastfeed he needed to "drag his d00dle along a rusty barbedwired fence for 5 mins, then attach the vacuum to it for 1hr, then as he takes off the vacuum to put it into an powerpoint and switch it on". His eyes started watering and i said i would rather birth 10 babies consecutively than ever b/f again.
Good to hear sharing your story helped you as much as it has helped everyone reading it...
I hope you have a better night tonight Roopee, and thanks for the info about high chairs... that makes sense... l might hold off for a little while in that case...
Penny – No offence taken – l think we can all appreciate how much a full nights sleep means!!!
Oh someone asked the other day about one of our memorable day/moments - my_lot l think... well l had a bath with my little boy on Friday night and it was just pure magic... before then we had bathed him in his own bath, and he had had a couple of showers with DH, but Friday night l thought l would like to bath with him - and it was absolutely delightful - l got in the bath and DH passed Coen to me, l was laying virtually flat and Coen was laying on my bare chest, first one way and then the other - he loved it, not only was he getting body contact but there was all this lovely water around - l let him have a play around wiggling up and down as he does... and low and behold he found his food source, attached himself and there you go, he had everything his little heart desired... l just laughed - only a bloke could satisfy all his desires at the one time -- but truly - if you haven't done this yet - l would highly recommend it...
I am exhausted now - but so glad l made time to come on here... have a great night everyone -- where once we were wishing each other good labour vibes now l wish :wizard: you all a good (or at least decent) night sleep and not too many hassles with settling - :fingerscrossed: Buono Notte (good night)
icugal- no offense taken but i am a bright shade of green right now! Thats so great- now to have your DH flown up here to teach mine a thing or two!
My_lot- re the TT and FF. Well the FF is going great but the TT, she has decided she doesnt want to do it anymore.:banghead: Feel like im flogging a dead horse in that area but im just reading her cues and if she wants to go she can- i dont want to scare her off it. She'll sit on the potty for ages and.........NOTHING! Then she gets up and 5 mins later wee's all over the floor! NICE!
Ziggy-Hope you had a good lunch!!!
Harleyq- Theres nothing like bathing with your newborn is there. They love it and thats funny that he decided to kill two birds with one stone.
me-Had a much better night last night! Cody slept from 9 till 6.30 so that was a good one. I felt awesome when i woke up- i fed her and she went straight back down till 9! The older kids didnt wake til 8.30 so today i felt almost human again! How nice it was.
Have a great night everyone!:hugs:
SuperFrog
25-03-2007, 20:38
Well, how much am I appreciating my DF right now?? For the last two nights he has taken K and slept in the spare room which has given me two full nights of sleep (10hrs the first, 11hrs the second). OMG, I feel like a new person. I think he realised that since Kaelan has been born, I've pretty much done all of it on my own (with the exception of one night feed out of a 24 hour day)... so he decided to give me a break... and a much appreciated break it was
My DH has done a similar thing for me today, except it has been in the nappy changing department. Very refreshing to have a whole weekend without changing a single nappy!
He's normally pretty good out in public bar one incident at highpoint where he just screamed from one end to the other. I'm glad I was with DH so we could have a laugh about it to each other
For a minute I thought you meant that he is normally pretty good when you take him to the public bar, as in the pub!
Oh someone asked the other day about one of our memorable day/moments - my_lot l think... well l had a bath with my little boy on Friday night and it was just pure magic... before then we had bathed him in his own bath, and he had had a couple of showers with DH, but Friday night l thought l would like to bath with him - and it was absolutely delightful - l got in the bath and DH passed Coen to me, l was laying virtually flat and Coen was laying on my bare chest, first one way and then the other - he loved it, not only was he getting body contact but there was all this lovely water around - l let him have a play around wiggling up and down as he does... and low and behold he found his food source, attached himself and there you go, he had everything his little heart desired... l just laughed - only a bloke could satisfy all his desires at the one time -- but truly - if you haven't done this yet - l would highly recommend it...[/FONT]
Ooh, breastfeeding in the bath... sounds tricky but I might just have to give it a go. Sounds heavenly!
Will be interesting to see what time Liam wakes up in the morning. He has been sleeping through the night for ages now (and I thank my lucky stars for that one!), but our normal feeding routine has been a bit different this weekend due to various events. Plus daylight saving throws everything out by an hour. Doesn't really bother me though as I've been so blessed so far.
Someone asked earlier if Liam's eyes have cleared up. Can't remember who it was, sorry. One eye seems to clear up but the other one is still gooey, especially when he cries. And if he cries too much and I don't wipe them in time, the tears from one eye sometimes get into the other eye, which seems to reinfect it. One day they'll clear up I'm sure.
Does anyone's health care nurse use a bell to "soothe" a crying baby?? I had a run-in with the nurse over her bell usage, and I think she has classified me now as difficult to deal with. She also said there isn't a mothers' group starting up until May. :( Hope she isn't just saying that out of spite.
Was it someone here that had a photo of their baby giving the finger? Liam fell asleep in that position today so I took a pic... I couldn't help myself, it was too funny! This is my first time using photobucket so I hope it works.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/superfrog1976/liam_finger.jpg
Edit: Just remembered someone mentioned that the supermarket never seems to have trolleys with a baby seat available. Last time I went they didn't have any, so I asked at the Customer Service desk. They went and hunted one down for me, and even gave it a good clean as it was dirty and wet from the rain. I probably waited 5-10 minutes, but I was doing a reasonable amount of shopping so it was worth it.
another sleepless night for me :thumbsdown:
morning everyone
still adjusting to daylight savings over here so i am up and on bubhub before 9am lol Cassidy is still asleep.
After a bit of a rough night last night, Cassidy ate and ate for a couple of hours and then just after midnight she threw it all up :barf: and then cried and cried.. the poor love she was really distressed about the whole thing. Since then, about 12 45 last night, she has been asleep.
so got about 8 hours sleep last night, we have been getting about 6 hours each night for the last couple of weeks but 8 hours was pretty good for me, needed it actually.
On the upside we had our first shower together last night after she threw up on herself and she seemed to enjoy that more than the baby bath, so mite keep doing that.
my_lot sorry to hear that you had another bad night :hugs: and hopefully it all get better soon.
anyway sorry for the lack of personals, im going to go out and do some more shopping today. Had a good day out yesterday and feel like doing it again! Protecting my own sanity over here by going out for a little while!!
Hope everyone has a good day!
my_lot :hugs: to you!! I'll have to give that boy of yours a good talking to when i see him! I hope you get to rest a bit today-however i know that like me it would be quite chilly in hell before you get a nanna nap!
Well we had another decent night last night but i dont want to talk too soon as it usually happens in a pattern of 2 good nights-5 bad ones so i wont be counting my chickens yet.
I dont know about anyone else but we have a nice cool change come thru and its heaven! So nice to not be sweating your clacker out all day. Its about time we had some cooler weather! Its also nice to sleep with the blankets on!!!! COME ON winter:smiliedance:
Have a good day everyone!
NoMoreScuba
26-03-2007, 10:15
Hi everyone,
Just caught up with a few day's worth of posts.
We took charlie away for the weekend to stay on a friend's farm up in the hunter. It was nice to get away, if a bit stressful to leave the home environment for such an extended period.
I've got my first mother's group meeting today, am quite excited.
Will post some personals later, right now I have no idea who posted what! Breasfeeding brain in action...:D
My poor little bubba is sick :( He's all congested and has a nasty little cough. I've attempted to take his temp, but my silly little thermometre doesn't deal well with a constantly-moving baby. I've also attempted to give K some Panadol, but I think most of it got spat back out again :)
I've been monitoring him most of the night (I'm such a light sleeper so I wake everytime he stirs/coughs) and will keep an eye on him today.
:fingerscrossed: that he will be better by Thursday for the meet-up (and even for tomorrow, for my mothers group).
Butterflymumma
26-03-2007, 11:34
Hey All,
Icugal- Sorry to hear your bubba is unwell, I hope it's nothing serious!! I'm thinking of you guys and hope he feels much better soon! :hugs:
Juzzy- I hope you and Cassidy dont have another night like that!! You poor things! At least she got a good sleep in though! I'm thinking of having a shower with Lillyana soon, just worried about dropping her or what to do once we hop out in terms of drying etc, LOL, her change table lives in her room so i dont want to be running butt naked and wet into the room to put her down before i can dry myself :laughing: Please tell me if there is an easier way of doing this as my pg brain is still alive and kicking!
Sorry not many personals today!!
After last weeks vent I am happy to say how wonderful things are now, Its amazing, just the other day i was playing and bonding with Lillyana and i realised the whole the time before then i was looking at her but i wasnt seeing her for what she is. It sounds strange, but i finially saw MY daughter, not my ex's daughter, my mothers granddaughter or my sisters neice, I saw her, my own creation, my flesh and blood, and i was so overcome with love and admiration for her and our journey together during my pg. We both went through so much and i know her better than anyone else in this world, and that concept only hit me while sitting there with her her...It was truley special
Warning Vent Alert- I've had yet some more difficulties with the ex, oh gosh, what a mess this has become!! He has now taken to not only harrassing me but also my family in regards to the Vaccination debate. He is totally flipping out over me wanting to immunise Lillyana (which i feel should be my decision because i am the primary carer and he hasnt been around during my pg) hes calling my family members, ramming his POV down their throats, pleading with them to change my mind. My sister warned me not to let him in the house when im alone she said he sounded like a raving lunatic when he called her up! :eek: I called Legal Aid today to find out my rights...Wow, love can be so blind, i didnt realise how much of a controlling, manipulating, psychotic person he really is back when we concieved Lilly....:( What a shame she has him for a father. I will strive to be the best mother in the world to make up for it, but i just hope she isnt affected too much by him and his controlling ways.
Sorry Ladies i just had to get that off my chest! It makes me sound like a derro because i actually created a child with this guy, but im not, I promise, i was just blinded by love and didnt know who i was back then and so let him into my life. I was romanced by the idea of his 'free spirited' life, but now i realise how restrictive and how little fun you can actually have when your being told what you can and cant wear, eat, drink, buy etc...
On a happier note, i went and got some new clothes the other day as nothing in my wardrobe fitted me anymore as my boobs have grown due to b/f and the size 8 jeans just dont fit over the now widened hips! i did a little fashion show for my mum and sister when i got home and they were saying- "whoa Yummy Mummy!" It was nice to feel special for a bit!!
I hope all of you are well and happy sending my Love
Tegan xx
mumslilspunks
26-03-2007, 12:20
Afternoon Ladies,
butterflymumma- Your ex sounds like a real a#@!hole.
How dare he annoy you and your family. Just do what you thinks right and * sticking middle finger up* to your ex.
icugal- so sorry to hear little k is not well. My ds1 has a cold to so im just wondering how long its going to take before billy get one. Hope K gets better real soon.
my_lot- Im with you on the bugger all sleep. Whats the secret all you mums have who have babies sleeping through the night?
ME-Sorry not to many personals today DH took us camping on the wekend! It was so relaxing but i think Billy has scared away most of the wildlife in a 2km radius of where we were staying :laughing: Poor little man seems to really struggle with the wind of a night time. Then he doesnt stay on the boob coz he's in pain then he's screaming coz his starving :crying:
Its just so hard. Ive just come back from the chemist with some 'infacol' apparently its spose to be really good. I was trying 'infants friend' but it didnt seem to be doing much.
Is there any other bubs and mums sleeping in the same room? Im not sure if this is half of the problem with Billy and myself? Every little noise he makes im awake and half the time im so tired i pick him up and shove boobie in his face thinking his hungry:eek:
The poor little man is probably just having a grunt in his sleep or moving around getting comfy and im shoving my boob down his throat........ Sorry for the round about ramble but cant seem to think well today.
Well hope everyone is well and bubs is sleeping, eating and pooing as they should be.
icugal-:hugs: to Kaelan- i hope he's feeling better soon! Poor little mite.
Butterflymumma- im so happy for you that you were able to see your baby in a different light! How liberated you must have felt and not to mention relieved!:yelclap: to you.
On a more serious note your ex sounds like a turd. Dont be too hard on yourself for getting involved with him. If you hadnt met him then you wouldnt have Lilyana so he was good for something:o. I would be telling him when he calls you next time shoving his opinions down your throat that he gave up his rights to make decisions for your baby the day he walked out! I know legally i guess he has some limitied rights but geez, he needs a good kick in the pants!
mumslilspunk-i always have ut all the kids in their own rooms from the strat as i know i would be up half the night with all the little noises they make. With our first baby i used to feed him everytime he cried! It took awhile for me to realise that babies cry- its what they do- even when there is no apparent reason. If your comfortable moving him into his own room, do it, if not keep him where he is. You can always move him back if it doesnt work out.
:hugs:
mumslilspunks
26-03-2007, 14:10
mumslilspunk-i always have ut all the kids in their own rooms from the strat as i know i would be up half the night with all the little noises they make. With our first baby i used to feed him everytime he cried! It took awhile for me to realise that babies cry- its what they do- even when there is no apparent reason. If your comfortable moving him into his own room, do it, if not keep him where he is. You can always move him back if it doesnt work out.
:hugs:
Have you had the kids in their own room or with their brothers and sisters? Coz the plan was to keep Billy in our room till he was sleeping through the night (well nearly) and then put him in with his brother. But im scared if we do this now we will have both kids up at the same time.
hello again- and at a decent hour this time!
im a walking zombie now... and still got another trip out to do and then the dinner,bath,bed rush hour...
i took ds out today to target- im still trying to put together this convict costume so i had to get black socks. we went to the toy section first and we were just cruzin up the isles when we head a kid screaming "i want a bratz doll- i want THAT bratz doll"
so this kid was yelling at the top of her lungs in the isle next to us and ds said "what a brat!" i told him not to say that as she might hear (and weve had enough of that happen!) he said "but mum you always call **** (his sister) a brat when she asks for things like that!" bl0ody kid he just says it how it is :laughing: ...so im thinking her screaming is going to wake eli so i told ds we should go find the socks... so we leave the shop and see this kid sitting on a chair with grandma? by the checkouts holding a bratz doll.. im thinking what a brat :laughing: and how dumb are those parents she will be stomping her feet for a car next!
so we go up to maccas to eat and a short time later they sat on a table next to us (we are right by the kiddy playride) and the girl runs off to play and the grandma is undoing the doll out of the box and my ds and his great big mouth says "oh look mum that girl wasnt a brat.. the doll is her mums- see her mum is playing with it" she looked up at me..i could have crawled under a rock!
he is just such a big mouth and he always puts me in spots like that..we went to visit my friend and her 10 month old and she said to my ds "do you want to hop up on the lounge to hold the baby" and ds said so sweetly "no thanks he smells like pooh"
mumslilspunkS~ my girls share a room but do not sleep in the same room. (saves night time fightin and then they can go to bed at the same time) we have bunks in the girls room and two singles in the boys room. eli will be sleeping in the girls room. dd8 would sleep through an earthquake so she gets the baby in with her! it worked well when ds was a baby so we will do the same til dd10 says she doesnt want to sleep in the same room as ds...right now eli is at the foot of my bed- and he keeps me up with his fidgeting around...but if i put him in the cot in the night now id have to use the intercom- because of the apnoea monitor- so hed still keep me up!
let us know what you end up doing.
and on the lack of sleep. my last two were great sleepers. so its been ten years since ive had one of these!....and OMG did dd1 do my head in with lack of sleep. eli is no where near as bad....i always remind my self of that when im up at 5 am for the 4th time in 6 hours!!
got to go wake my sleeping prince and put him in his least fav spot - the carsseat- for a ten minute drive and then get him back out and try to cook dinner with him squackin' oh the fun of it.
happybirthday to Coen - he's 1 month today!!!
Juzzy – A quick question for you – (like butterflymama l am a bit confused) when you shower with Cassidy do you do it all by yourself of is DP around to pass her to you and hand off to? If you do do it alone can you please share the logistics??? My tiny brain can’t work out how to do it so one of us isn’t dripping wet and freezing whilst the other is in a nice warm fluffy towel…
Penny – Poor little Kaelan (did l ever mention that we had Kaelan on our shortlist of names as well – but you beat me to it!!! J ) has he been able to nap a bit?
Butterflymama – what a special moment… that’s fantastic (l am ofcourse talking about “i was so overcome with love and admiration for her and our journey together during my pg” here not comments on your ex)! It doesn’t sound like your ex is very rational – how could he dump you when you were pregnant with his child and then expect to have an overriding influence (that is overriding your opinions) on how Lillyana is raised? It sounds like going to Legal Aid for advice might be a good move – even if you don’t end up using it – it would be good to no your rights and responsibilites – if not for now to ensure that you don’t do or not do or say anything in the future that will in any way limit your parental rights… oh and be careful about antagonizing him until you know your rights – you don’t want to inspire him to seek his own legal counsel. Good luck Tegan.
Mumslilpunk - yeah Coen sleeps in our room… and you’re right they do make an awful lot of noises… basically we have gotten used to Coen’s horse noises (he really does sound like a horse neighing) – we ignore under most circumstances … he usually makes them when he first gets put down (particularly if he is been wrapped when he is trying to undo himself) – but then he also makes them again just before he wakes up properly and starts crying for a feed… so what l do is listen to him making his horse noises for a little while if they don’t settle l look at the clock if it’s a reasonable time before his next feed l will get him up – problem is he is not quite awake enough to feed so l have to change him – then he’s up and absolutely ravenous… How often is Billy feeding during the night?
My_lot – How ever do you do it – particularly if you are up 4 times in 6 hours??? Oh, it sounds like all us first time mums are in for loads of unexpected embarrassing moments with kids – l love your funny stories – they provide great entertainment (maybe not for you at the time come to think of it)!!
me - whinge alert!!! Well we 3 visits from MIL yesterday (which made it 5 for the week)... l was very patient, the first two were birthday celebrations (my dh and his dad), the 3rd was the great grandparents wanting to have a first visit (they needed to be picked up from the other side of town) - all okay so far (even if a bit too often for my liking), the 4th they asked us to come over for lunch (reasonable - at least l don't have to cook), they had friends coming round later on which they had asked to bring round, my dh had agreed, but given that we were already over at their house for lunch l figured if we just hang around a little longer we can get out of this soon... so we did... the friends came round, MIL shows our son off like he is a trophy, then she held off passing him over him saying that he is not at his best (cos he had farted) and apologising for it (WTF??? he's a kid for god sake and had wind - all mothers get that it is better out then in) -- anyway after a fairly full day Coen was tired and started getting a bit antsy, so l said to DH okay we have to get going now - when he didn't move and Coen continued to get more upset l grabbed Coen and said goodbye and made my way out - only to be intercepted by MIL saying oh is it alright if we drop round a bit later so we can show our friends your house? Well l can't very well say no in front of them can l? Wasn't it enough already?
Dad came around to visit Coen for the 1st time today - you might not remember but Dad and l don't get along that well - he's an alcoholic and loves nothing more than putting us kids down - whilst l was pregnant he actually told me that l wouldn't be a good mother and that this baby would be an "inconvenience" in my life! Anyway having said all that he was excellent (for him) -- l made mum come with him (they're seperated but friends still) - so the week (starting today) has begun reasonably well!!
Coen has just (from yesterday) started sleeping a bit better during the day, for the first time l have him down in his cot (rather than the basinette - which he kept waking himself up in); oh and we got a Fisherprice swing yesterday from the GGP - can't wait to check it out tonight - l know a lot of your ladies swear by them!!!
*Sparkles*
26-03-2007, 18:14
Butterflymumma - That's awful that your ex is being such an ar$e hole! I agree that you should do what's in the best interests of your daughter. I hope things settle down soon for you.
Penny - I hope K is over his cold soon. My MHN said that babies get sick quickly but also get better quickly, so I hope he is over the worst soon and that you can still make it to the meet :fingerscrossed: I'm sure the dramatic changes in temperatures that we have had hasn't helped much.
Mumslilspunk - We put Reece in his own room after 2 weeks for the same reason, I would wake to every noise. He has a movement & sound monitor and I have switched off the parents unit (which was in our room) as I can still hear every sound through the wall (his room is next to ours). I'm asleep during the night but still have one ear listening out for him. Of course my DH would sleep through the whole night if I didn't prod him when R woke up for a feed :rolleyes:
Us - I had an appt with the OB today and I am healing up nicely, so I'm pleased about that. Went for a walk to the shops this arvo but felt a bit sore after, but it was nice to get out again after a week of being at home almost everyday.
R hasn't slept thru the last 2 nights, I think it's because he has had too much sleep during the day so I have kept him up a bit more today. I will bath him tonight in the big bath (with me) using his new bath seat, then I plan to give him a big feed so hopefully he will sleep well after that :fingerscrossed:
mumslilspunk- we put them into their own rooms. The boys share a room but they both stated out in their own and they started sharing when DS2 was 2. The girls might share later but we have 4 bedrooms so they dont have to-it'll be their choice.
I wouldnt want them waking each other either! Can they have seperate rooms to start with and move them into the same room when they are a bit older??:hugs:
Juzzy - I'm another who is curious as to how you shower with babe in arms... so please tell.
I don't know about the rest of you but Kaelan still thrashes around when I'm holding him in my arms, so I'd be terrified of dropping him (esp when he is wet and slippery).
This is going to be an issue for me because I have no idea how I'm going to bath K after he out-grows the baby bath. When DF and I started building this house, I was not pregnant and we never considered how our future children might impact upon our house design. Long story short, we put a fabulous BIG (and luxurious) spa into our bathroom. The problem now of course is that realistically, we can't keep filling the spa everytime I need to bath kids (we would single-handedly drain Melbournes dwindling water supply very quickly). We only have a shower in the ensuite, so we do not have a normal bath in the house.
As I've typed this, I've thought that maybe once K can stand on his own two feet, I'll be able to use the hand-held shower head to wash him down in the shower (just like I would a patient in hospital)... it's not as much as fun as having a bath, but it will have to do I guess... besides, he'll still be able to have an occasional bath/spa...
See, I've done it again... I've written down my thoughts as they come into my head, and now I'm rambling again !!!! :D
NoMoreScuba - Hope your Mothers Group was good !!
Butterflymumma - I take it from your post that you want to immunise Lilyanna and he doesn't? What does Legal Aid say?? Does the absent parent have a right to determine what happens in their childs life??
mumslilspunk - To be honest I don't notice much difference with Infacol. I hope it helps you out. And way to go taking your youngin's camping... what an achievement !!!
My_Lot - Your stories always make me laugh (you and Roopee should start up your own comedy troupe *LOL*). I dread the day when K goes through the 'honesty' phase. My mother tells the story of when I was about two, and she went to the toilet in a shopping center. Aparently I was yelling out at the top of my voice "Are you doing poo's mummy??". How embarrassing for her !! :o
harleyq - Happy one month to Coen !! (K is 8 weeks old tomorrow, and officially two months old on Friday). Funny that you liked the name Kaelan (sorry to inadvertantly steal it from you).. how do you think would you have spelt it if you'd used it??
Poor you with the whole MIL thing !! I guess there is a benefit to having a partner that originally hails from the UK... my in-laws are all on the other side of the world (having said that, I will be with my MIL in less than two weeks!! :eek: )
Good to hear that your dad behaved himself when he visited. What an awful thing he said to you when you were pregnant. It's true what they say, you can't choose your relatives.
As for me (like the whole post hasn't been about me anyway !! *LOL*), Kaelan seems to be a little better today than he was overnight... mind you, he has slept nearly all day (hope he sleeps overnight too). He's still quite snuffly, but not coughing as much. He hasn't been overly grisly, so I'll assume that he isn't feeling too bad.
Progress: At (nearly) 8 weeks old, Kaelan has now been in 000 for about a week (he can still wear some of the larger 0000) and is just out-growing the Huggies newborn nappies (only have a few left to use). Safeway had a sale on their Huggies nappies this past week, so I picked up a few packs of the Infant size this week ($5 off per pack). He's drinking 120-150ml of Formula per feed (maybe 5-7 bottles per day). He doesn't get weighed for another week. What's everyone elses bubs up to?
Coen has never fit in 0000 cos he is too tall -- you wouldnt believe how much clothing my mum bought in 00000 & 0000 that he will never wear... so he is inbetween 0000 & 000 so nothing fits well - Coen is breastfed and feeds about 10+ times a day - l don't think l care to count after 10 -- buts its roughly every two hours during the day and 3-4 at night...
He is definitely heavier since his last weigh in (a week ago) when he was over 4kg - but l will have to wait until next Thursday to have a definite weight for him....
Coen wakes goes to sleep between 8.30 & 10.30 - wakes around 1.30-2.30 again at 3.30-4.30 and then anywhere between 7-8 ...
icugal-have you thought about an inflateable pool for in the bottom of your shower? Something to think about anyway. We had one of theses as up till DS1 was nearly two we didnt have a bath either and it worked great!
Re the comedy troupe- I have another one for you.
I had DS1 in the deli section when he was about 3. It was packed and therewas this old man (prob about 80) standing next to him. Cooper says "hi man" the man actually responded and started talking to him. Cooper then proceeed to ask the man this
" Hey man? Is your d00dle in your Spidermans-mine is wanna see?" ( he ad gotten new spiderman undies and was very proud.
I nearly dies (in fact i was praying for it). The Man was NOT impressed, mumbled something and tried to walk away while Cooper is yelling after him "well is it" MAN!!!! IS YOUR D00DLE IN YOUR SPIDERMANS!""""
Oh the things you have to look forward too.
I have so mnay "i wanna die"moments courtesy of the kids- but hey, gotta love em!
Cody is guzzling about 160mils every bottle except for the last pm bottle where she has 200mils. She is currently weighing almost 10pd and is exactly the same size as DS1 was when he was born:eek:.
Dh has gone out for a work dinner tonight so ive just had the kids up watching a movie (special treat for them) till 8.30 and now im enjoying my peace!
im still awake
do is asleep:rolleyes:
penny- i shower with eli. i hold his head in the crook of my arm and with that hand hold onto his leg gripping my four fingers under his toosh and my thumb around the top of his thigh. so my fingers meet. so like you hold to give a bottle or walk around just grip the leg! then i can wash me and him with the other hand. i swap him round and hold him over my shoulder, but i do have four down on this. (i even had a shower with my premmie still in hospital)
we have the same problem with a great big spa. so deep so nice hhhmm id love to relax in it now! we do a combo of me shower and dp bath in the baby bath and ive used the laundry tub too! when hes too big for the baby bath i will continue with the tub til he can sit then back to the baby bath only with it in the bottom of the shower. my ds4 still sits in it in the shower- he loves it :thumbsup: we got a big round tub for dds from chinatown and used that for years in the bottom of the shower.
give the shower thing a go. k might just love it. could wait til dp is around and you have another pair of hands.....eli really likes the shower i can let the water run over his face and he just licks he even licks the water off my skin!
roopee your doodle boy sounds just like my ds! is it a boy thing?
and penny- on the toilet one:laughing: that reminded me of dd1 walking into a public loo and one lady the only person in there walks out and dd says "oh whats that smell? smells just like pooh!"
and another bathroom moment-
ds in a parent & child toilet right after eli was born- "are you wearing a nappy mum" my boy is such a fog horn! his voice is just sooo loud at all the wrong moments! i bet a few people in that toilet block had a laugh!
im going to wake my baby, bugger waiting up for him! i want to get a few hours tonight- just a few and ill be happy. i have to pack tomorrow. got to start tomorrow because i know i wont get it done in one hit!! we are flying out on our holiday at the end of the week :yelclap:
Roopee - :laughing: :laughing: OMG, that it just too funny !! Laughing myself silly right now...
And absolutely brilliant idea about the inflatable pool... I'm going to do that !!!
penny- good idea :thumbsup:
eli is 4.6kg B/weight.
all his newborn nappies went to the dolls long ago.:D i use MCN buti do have a bag of huggies infant on the go for dp, nights, car trips or when the MCN are all wet- i got 3 bags in this size a few weeks back when they were on sale.
no 0000~ hes too long! i use 00 bonds and target jumpsuits some 000 pants with no feet but the closed in feet are a problem as his feet are so long! none of his newborn size socks fit...oh talking of socks ..i saw these really cute sesame st socks today in the sale bins in taget so i got these blue ones for eli they had elmo on them pretty cute...and then i saw these so girly so cute so pink ones.. they had zoe on them. so i got them for cody:D
back to the boy...
he smiles but frowns more often. lack of sleep makes for a grump!
buti do have a bag of huggies infant on the go for dp
:laughing: now it shows how tired i am...and im laughing like a drunk at how funny that looked when i read it back
I must be tired because now I'm laughing like an idiot :D
Speaking of Elmo, DF made mention a few months ago to an old friend of his in Canada that I had a bit of an Elmo thing happening (I bought a TMX Elmo, plus a few other accessories)... so now, every couple of months we receive a box of Elmo stuff from Canada (clothes, toys etc). She even sent us an original Tickle Me Elmo (she had to take out the battery pack because he kept laughing everytime the package moved *LOL*).
SuperFrog
26-03-2007, 22:03
What does MCN stand for? It's been bugging me for ages. Something cloth nappies?
EskimoMumma
27-03-2007, 06:40
Modern cloth nappies.
Im converting very soon. Have already bought 1 and waiting for that to try it out :laughing:
I have reason to rejoice today. For the first time EVER, DD2 slept through the night!!!!it was awesome!!!:smiliedance: :smiliedance:
I bath my girls in the same bathtub tho. I'll get the bath going, leave it right water level for DD1, give DD2 her bath first and then DD1 is in there. (Usually DD1 is dirtier then DD2 :p )
I cant wait for the meet girls. Is it still happening?
MCN= modern cloth nappy.
i used fitted cloths on dd1 10years ago they were like terry flats but shaped like a nappy with velcro.
it was the new thing back then. now they make them so fancy! no pilchers, no pins, no soaking i guess thats where they get the "modern" bit.
i got a few while i was pregnant...and used them and just loved them so now i have heaps more. the ones i like the most are "greenkids" they are about $23 for one "pocket nappy". its shaped just like a sposie but the back has a pocket where you shove in a hemp thingy like a flat bit of material...so its not bulky, but not going to leak. over nights just stuff some more.
i have a few others but these are the pocket ones we use the most as they are just so easy. the kids can stuff them when they come in off the line and dp can use them as easily as a sposie...
and the re-sale value is great :thumbsup: so when im done i will sell them and make back more than half of their original price!
here is eli in a red greenkids (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/000_0279.jpg)
click (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/000_0246.jpg) to see (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_3542.jpg) the cute (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_3552.jpg) prints (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_3560.jpg)
and this minki (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/000_0295.jpg)one is sooo soft. it can be used as a cover for a fitted cloth or terry flat or with a snap in as a nappy..
my fav would have to be these cute cows (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/000_0292.jpg)
EskimoMumma
27-03-2007, 07:03
Wow, those nappies are cute and not that expensive either.
Must investigate :detective:
eskimo- i showed three diff brands. sorry to confuse. i just meant the green kids are my fav.
the minki one is a berry plush and a plush price too! but it is a one size nappy so i can use it till hes done with nappies. its got snaps on the sides which is tricky to do up with a moving baby.
the cow was more $ than the green kids. its a "happy heinys" about $25 and is a sized pocket nappy. so i got a small. it looked so small when i got it i didnt think it would fit but its such a great fit! only it takes a smaller stuff in thingy and we only have 2 small ones!
the green kids are the pinted ones i put in the link and are $23. they are a one size fits all- i used them when he was only a few weeks old and ill still be using them in 18 months-2!
great value!
i have "bits (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/000_0280.jpg) for (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/100_3679.jpg) bots (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l132/my_lot/000_0251-1.jpg)" too
my_lot those nappies are so cool! Love the prints on them! The cow one is my fave
Ok so whoever asked about showering with bub... I did it while DP was home so he was able to grab Cassidy and dress her while i got dried and dressed. I was concerned i was going to drop her but she didnt squirm at all and really seemed to enjoy the shower experience. I dont know if i could manage showering with her on my own just yet.
About sposie nappies... when do you move up to the next size? I read on the box that they say to use weight as a guide.... Cassidy is just over 4 kilos now so she is in the weight range for newborn and infant nappies. At the moment we are still using newborn nappies and they seem to fit her ok, maybe starting to run out of room around the waist....(hopefully they fir for awhile as i still have a box and a half of them to use....). Should i wait until she is totally uncomfortable in the newborn ones and then move?
i know penny said that kaelan was starting to use the next size up....
Probably a stupid question really, but hey i am new to this parenting gig :laughing:
As for clothing sizes... Cassidy just fits into a 0000 but some 000 clothes are slightly too big for her so we are in between clothes sizes at the moment. I have found that her bonds wondersuit in 0000 are really the only 0000 that dont fit her at all. Is it just me but are the bonds sizes a bit different to all other clothes.. like a bit smaller?
tegan - your ex sounds like a bit of a loser... Hope things pick up for you soon :hugs: And how good is it to get some new clothes... i did that yesterday and on Sunday as well. It was only like 2 new tops... but god it felt good! I want to lose more weight before i go out and buy a whole new wardrobe
Speaking of, how is everyone doing with the weight loss? I am back to my pre baby weight. Now just need to go out and lose more weight before we try and conceive number 2.
Morning everyone :wave:
my_lot and Roopee - Your kids are hilarious...how do you keep a straight face with some of the things they say? My DH and I crack up just when Jack farts........
Jack's been in his own room since about day 2. We were pretty strict about him sleeping in his cot from the begining. It's payed off now as he goes pretty much straight to sleep in it.
Jack was out of huggies newborns about 3 weeks ago :eek: His 0000 only lasted two weeks so he's now in 000 but even some of them are getting snug. At his last weight in he was 4.9kg but that was almost two weeks ago so god know's what he is now but he's definately grown...I think he was about 54cm long too. I'm raising a piggy!! He feeds every 3-4.5 hours but can go up to 5-6 hours during the night and for most of the day he only has one boob. He's only recently started having both in the evening....I think my supply is dropping a bit as I'm forgetting to eat during the day.
I'm pretty tired today....last night I forgot to turn the baby monitor on :shame: and I slept through Jack screaming.....oops!! My DH heard him and went and rescued him. After that he was awake two hours later cos he got his arm out of his wrap......He was back asleep even before I had him wrapped again but it took me half an hour to fall back to sleep :banghead: I think I'll try and catch up on some zzz's this afternoon
Penny - How's Kaelan today? I hope he'll be well enough for Thursday...would love to meet you both
Harleyq - I have PMed you
Juzzy - Well done on getting back to your pre baby weight...that's fantastic!! I've only got 5kg more to go but I'm still a bit flabby :laughing: I've found bonds clothes to be a bit smaller too. We moved Jack into the bigger size nappies when they started to leak. HTH
mumslilspunks
27-03-2007, 09:05
:laughing: now it shows how tired i am...and im laughing like a drunk at how funny that looked when i read it back
It does sound pretty funny.
icugal- we to have a spa bath but we only fill it a little bit and then normally dh or i will jump in after ds1. Then its used on the garden so its not really wasted. Put the pool in the bottom is a great idea.
harleyq- Billy has roughly the samr feeding patten as you have. But of a night its a nightmare with his wind. It feels like im up all night burbing or feeding. Do you get to have a nanna nap during the day?
my_lot- I love those nappies, the cow one is my fav also. With the shower with bubs thing how do you wash your hair? (sorry for the dumb question).When we get out Billy would scream the house down and i would have to stand there naked and dripping wet trying to dress him, *not a pretty look* I think ill try it when hubbys home. I did do it a couple of times with ds1 but i he didnt mind being naked.
roopee- Love the doodle in spiderman LOL Luckily ds1 still is talking yet but im dreading those embarasing kiddie talks. On the room thing yes we can put the boys in there own rooms but then we'd have no where for guests to stay. I know my boys sleeping is more impotant but the more i think about it when we have guest come and stay i spose i could move ds2 out for the night...
juzzy- With the nappy thing i just use then till they dont do up aswell and you can normally tell coz they just dont look right. I too have a heaps of boxes but when ds1 moved up a size i just took the boxes to my local supermarket and they swaped them for me.
me- Well another nightmare night. Its so strange during the day Billy takes the boob no problem but of a night his becomming a nightmare.:confused: As ive posted once before, he'll latch on then gulp it down coz his hungry, then he gets wind and cant suck so you stop feeding to burp him and all he does is scream coz his in pain and hungry:banghead:
Last night i gave him a formula bottle around 11 (he'd sucked me near on dry with a full on feeding day) he finshed 120mls then brought up his wind and straight back to sleep. No problem. Then he's next feed at 330 i tried the boob and it happend all over again........ So ive been up since 330 with a windy, screaming hungry and unsettled bub:crying: I am seriously contemplating using formula all night. What do you guys think?
Hubby is being really supportive and said "whatever you think will work for you and bubs"
During last nights 'problems' ds1 woke so hubby brought him back in to our bed and while i was lying there crying trying to handle Billys tantie ds1(jack) was rubbing my back and giving me kisses on my shoulder. I did cry a little more but then it was a happy cry.
Sorry for the rambles ladies.
Off to snooze coz ds1 is in day care till 1 so hopefull Billy sleeps a few more hours too.
my_lot- OMG you bought my baby some socks? Thats so cool-THANX for that!
Re the MCN- I dont use them but the chemist around the corner from me stocks some! I got some for a friend the other day as she said they were pretty reasonable price. The brand is "itty bitty" or something like that and the nappy is $31.95 and the inserts are $10.95. I know i prob should use them but i already do 4 full loads of washing a day and i just cant do anymore. (but they might be usefull for you my-lot, especially if you've got your DH still in nappies :laughing:)
My DH has had is appointment moved to today at 9am:eek:. They rang yesterday and chnged it so looks like he might get it sooner rather than later- bugger! That means i dont get as much "time off" as i thought:laughing:.
We had a pretty good night again last night, but today is proving a bit of a challenge! We walked DS1 to school and the sky was clear when we left and half way there it started p!issing down! So NOT fun with 4 kids! DS2 was pestering me to drive earlier this morning (lazy bugger) and i kept saying no, we only drive in the rain, its a nice day today- we will walk.
Well him being the smartypants he said says- "told ya mum, you should have listened to me- i am right all the time" In a sing song ner ner ner ner ner voice! Then proceeded to tll everymum who would listen at school that i'm silly coz i wouldnt listen when he told me to drive! Hmmm yeah Riley whatever!
We're off to bake a cake now but have to go scab some eggs from the neighbours- gotta fill the mornig in or hey'll drive me up the wall!
JoJoMart
27-03-2007, 09:20
Hi everyone,
No personals from me today.....been missing in action as Liam has been VERY unsettled the last few days and I'm exhausted. I think it's the whole BF thing. He doesn't seem to get enough from me and it's all gone to sh*t so I've hired a lactation consultant who is coming over today so wish me luck it gets sorted soon :fingerscrossed: . I've been in tears the last fews days its been horrible.
mumslilspunk - I've had the wind problem with Liam also both with BF and FF. Some feeds he cries for ages afterwards even when he's been burped a few times poor thing!
Hi everyone,
No personals from me today.....been missing in action as Liam has been VERY unsettled the last few days and I'm exhausted. I think it's the whole BF thing. He doesn't seem to get enough from me and it's all gone to sh*t so I've hired a lactation consultant who is coming over today so wish me luck it gets sorted soon :fingerscrossed: . I've been in tears the last fews days its been horrible.
:hugs: :hugs: I hope it works out for you both. I found seeing a lactation consultant really helpful. Are you coming on Thursday still?
Can we have a show of hands (or posts ;)) please as to who is coming on Thursday??
Kaelan seems to be improved a little, so I'll put my hand up.
Can we have a show of hands (or posts ;)) please as to who is coming on Thursday??
Kaelan seems to be improved a little, so I'll put my hand up.
Me too :yes: I'm bumming a lift with Harlyq
EskimoMumma
27-03-2007, 10:36
I am too- hopefully im not ignored like on here ;)
EskimoMumma
27-03-2007, 10:38
Yeah I had a look at the greenkids side, not badly priced. This MCN is a hard business to get into and understand..
:yes: eskimo- peapods are about $5 cheaper. they come with the insert thingy (its a square shape that you fold in three) and a wet bag (never used this tho) i have four of them. they are sized but should last for 9 months ish. i like the trim fit - under his clothes it doesnt look like he has a cloth nappy on-and they never leaked. at first i just had a few mcn and used them every second day i didnt have enough for full time use and i was worried about the washing pile ...so after a week or two of this i didnt see it as a hassle. infact my kids put them on the airing racks out side and then bring them in in the avo and stuff them. all i do is rinse and chuck in the machine!
and do you really feel ignored on here? you are just as special as everyone else! :D jump in and chat! and if your up at 3,4 and 5 am put your lil green light on and ill keep you company!
penny- glad kaelans getting better. i was worried my kids would bring home every germ...but so far they havent.... they only bring home nits!
1st time mum- :wave:
i wonder what happened to iamstephyc ? 5 kids under 6~ she probably doesnt have the time to scratch herself let alone bubhub! but if your out there steph- stop by and say hi one day...
OOOhh i got the baby bonus! wooo hooo for my credit card! and looks like the change is going on the greenslip & rego its due today :eek:
:wave: hehe ill be there on Thursday
:D sorry had to say it :laughing: :laughing:
JoJoMart
27-03-2007, 13:09
LMenz & icugal I am coming on Thursday so look forward to meeting you guys then :wave:
The lactation consultant was good by the way. Must go as need to grab something to eat before Liam wakes up!
hi all,
havent been on for a few days, had an awful time with olivia being very unsettled and not sleeping and having some feeding problems. She has just been crying all day for a couple of days (and so have I). Its so upsetting not knowing what is wrong.
Question for you all - is it normal for your bub to not sleep during the day? She gets about 10 hours at night and then between 8am and 10pm she might sleep for about 3-4 hours and is up the rest of the time, sometimes it takes me 3-4 hours to get her to sleep and the only way to get her down seems to be to cuddle her to sleep which I know is a bad habit but feel helpless to do anything else as she just ends up distressed and overtired.
She also went through about 3-4 days of feeding every single hour, I was feeding her 12-14 times a day and it was driving me nuts but I realise now it might have been a growth spurt as she has settled down now.
Now though almost every time she feeds she sucks a few times, starts swallowing and gulping it down then starts pushing against me with her arms and legs and moving her head from side to side with my nipple in her mouth (ouch) then will start screaming and detach herself. As soon as she is detached she continues crying but starts rooting for the nipple again so I reattach her and we start the cycle over again.....so distressing she seems like she is in pain but I have no idea what is wrong or what to do.
1sttimemum - so glad the lactation consultant was good you'll have to tell us all about it when you get a chance. I found my experience with a consultant invaluable and the only reason I am still BFing (although sometimes I still want to give up). Hope things start getting better for you soon :)
penny - glad K is getting a bit better - so horrible seeing the little ones not well.
butterflymumma - Every time I read one of your posts I so admire your strength and how lovely and supportive you are to everyone on this forum - we are lucky to know you! Ill echo everyone else - your ex sounds like a total a$$hole and your daughter is very lucky to have you to make up for it. Hope the legal/immuno issues get sorted out for you and good for you for sticking to your guns.
So tired cant remember anyone elses posts for now Im sorry love to you all and have a great day.
mumslilspunks
27-03-2007, 14:16
Now though almost every time she feeds she sucks a few times, starts swallowing and gulping it down then starts pushing against me with her arms and legs and moving her head from side to side with my nipple in her mouth (ouch) then will start screaming and detach herself. As soon as she is detached she continues crying but starts rooting for the nipple again so I reattach her and we start the cycle over again.....so distressing she seems like she is in pain but I have no idea what is wrong or what to do.
Im sorry love to you all and have a great day.
This is exactly what Billy does but only of a night. I think its a wind problem coz when the gulp they take in air then of course with wind its hard to feed coz they have a painfull airblock. Then its also a hunger cry. Im thinking that my letdown might be drowning him and he has to gulp it instead of just swallowing. Ive tried giving him the milk in a bottle (tried last night) which seemed to help. Im not 100% though so if you find out exactly what it is please share. I could be making the problem worse im not sure:confused:
NoMoreScuba
27-03-2007, 14:43
Now though almost every time she feeds she sucks a few times, starts swallowing and gulping it down then starts pushing against me with her arms and legs and moving her head from side to side with my nipple in her mouth (ouch) then will start screaming and detach herself. As soon as she is detached she continues crying but starts rooting for the nipple again so I reattach her and we start the cycle over again.....so distressing she seems like she is in pain but I have no idea what is wrong or what to do.
Sorry, not much time, but Shelby - this is EXACTLY what charlie does when he's got wind. I put him over my shoulder and pat and rub his back until i get a burp from him (usually i have to stand up and jiggle him around a bit too). I don't put him back on until some wind has escaped!
Gotta go, baby screaming.
This is exactly what Billy does but only of a night. I think its a wind problem coz when the gulp they take in air then of course with wind its hard to feed coz they have a painfull airblock. Then its also a hunger cry. Im thinking that my letdown might be drowning him and he has to gulp it instead of just swallowing. Ive tried giving him the milk in a bottle (tried last night) which seemed to help. Im not 100% though so if you find out exactly what it is please share. I could be making the problem worse im not sure:confused:
I'm having the same trouble with Jack....my let down is fast and he gulps like crazy. When it's really bad I just take him off and then re atattch when he calms down. Sometimes I'll try to burp him mid way through a feed but he often screams the house down cos I took his boob away. I've been using Infant's Friend for a while now and it helps bit. I've been giving it to him 5 minutes before a feed and then sometimes an hour after if he wakes in pain.
I was told to lean back during the feed to slow the flow but it didn't work for me. Maybe give that a try.......I'm not sure what to do either :confused: I've been told he will grow into the flow as he gets bigger
Shelby - Jack's routine is to be up for 1 - 1.5 hours (including his feed) and then sleep for between 1.5 - 3 hours depending on the time of day. He normally has shorter sleeps in the middle of the day. It could be that Olivia is overtired or overstimulated. It is much harder to get then to sleep when they are overtired. Once I see Jack's first sign of being tired which is usually jerky movements I put him in his cot straight away. Otherwise she could be a bub that doesn't need much sleep HTH :)
*Sparkles*
27-03-2007, 18:24
Reece was weighed today and is now 5 kgs (11 lbs) at just over 8 weeks, what a little porker :p She said his length is only 54 cms but I am going to check that again as I think he is taller. But I think he will be a short ar$e like me though lol.
We started using Infant size huggies about a week ago, we went up to the next size when the newborns were getting a bit tight on his tummy.
He wears sizes 000 and 00 depending on the cut, they seem to vary alot.
The Melb meet is definitely still on for Thursday at Juzzy's place for 2.30pm.
The following girls have RSVP'd;
LMenz, Icugal, 1st Time Mum, EskimoMumma, HarleyQ, Purplebird, and myself & Juzzy of course.
What is everyone bringing for afternoon tea? (so we don't all bring the same thing). I am bringing an apple teacake or similar.
Also, is everyone going to carry their bubs or take the pusher? I don't like to carry R for too long as I get back ache. I have a horseshoe feeding cushion that I was going to bring as he likes to lie in that. I also have a big playmat that I could bring so the bubs can lay on the floor. What do the rest of you think?
Sorry if it sounds like a stupid question but I haven't done many social visits yet.
1st Time Mum - Sorry to hear about the BF issues, I hope we can help lift your spirits a bit on thursday :hugs:
My parents go home tomorrow to UK so it will be a sad day, they have been with us for almost 6 weeks.
Before I go, seeing as you have all been talking about MCN's, I have some peapods and here's my chubba bubba wearing one; :p
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Reece/7weeks9.jpg
EskimoMumma
27-03-2007, 18:38
Melb meet-
Well I will be bringing my hugabub, but with 2 under 2 I was wondering if its ok to bring my bouncer and or swing?? I'll be more than happy to share them as well with everyone else:D Hopefully you won't mind Juzzy.
And what food am i bringing?I can bring assorted sandwiches?
mumslilspunks
27-03-2007, 18:45
Sorry to interupt ladies but i got this photo of Billy and myself today and i'd just like to share. Billy's first pulling a face photo!
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j262/mumslilspunk/Billy6wks009.jpg
NoMoreScuba
27-03-2007, 18:49
Wow, Charlie has really got the hang of this evening screaming. It's non-stop.
Charlie is 6 weeks old on friday, and he already weighs 5.4kg (!!!), so he's put on 1.5kg since he was born. Last time he was measured he was 57cm but i think he's grown taller since then as it was a few weeks ago.
At my mother's group yesterday i swear he was the biggest baby there, and some of them were 10 weeks old!
Reece was weighed today and is now 5 kgs (11 lbs) at just over 8 weeks, what a little porker :p She said his length is only 54 cms but I am going to check that again as I think he is taller. But I think he will be a short ar$e like me though lol.
We started using Infant size huggies about a week ago, we went up to the next size when the newborns were getting a bit tight on his tummy.
He wears sizes 000 and 00 depending on the cut, they seem to vary alot.
The Melb meet is definitely still on for Thursday at Juzzy's place for 2.30pm.
The following girls have RSVP'd;
LMenz, Icugal, 1st Time Mum, EskimoMumma, HarleyQ, Purplebird, and myself & Juzzy of course.
What is everyone bringing for afternoon tea? (so we don't all bring the same thing). I am bringing an apple teacake or similar.
Also, is everyone going to carry their bubs or take the pusher? I don't like to carry R for too long as I get back ache. I have a horseshoe feeding cushion that I was going to bring as he likes to lie in that. I also have a big playmat that I could bring so the bubs can lay on the floor. What do the rest of you think?
Sorry if it sounds like a stupid question but I haven't done many social visits yet.
....
Before I go, seeing as you have all been talking about MCN's, I have some peapods and here's my chubba bubba wearing one; :p
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Reece/7weeks9.jpg
Reece is so cute !!
Kaelan was also weighed today and he is 4.9kgs (10lb, 8oz)... as he is 4 days younger than Reece, it sounds like both of our boys are developing at the same rate. Infact, nearly everything else you said applies to K as well (nappies, clothes etc).
I don't know what to bring for food on Thursday.. maybe I'll see what other people say, then I'll try to 'fill the gap' with the food :)
I was also giving some thought as to what to put K in whilst we're at Juzzy's place. I was originally thinking pram, but then if everyone were to do that, then there'd be no room. If there is carpet, then I'd be happy just to put him on the floor with a bunny rug or nappy under him. I have got a carrier, but it takes me ten minutes just to put it on !! :)
Juzzy - How much room do you have? And do you have carpet and/or something soft on the floor to put bubs on?? What would you prefer?? I'll put the pram in the car just incase.
To everyone else... Hiya !! I'm a bit tired tonight, so feeling a bit too lazy to do a big post. I'll try to make up for it later !!
Harleyq - what a busy time you have been having. i have had visitors or been out the last 6 days and enjoyed but lily is getting quite stroppey during the day. maybe she is overstimulated?
Penny - did i mention that i am a trekkie too? since falling pregnant i have watched all of enterprise, voyager and am up to series 6 TNG. than all of DS9 to go. will probably have to finish off with the original just for completeness. oh and all the movies too. what is your favourite. i pity poor lily with a computer geek father and a trekkie mum she is bound to be a little nerd.
Juzzy - lily is now 4.7kg. we moved up to infant size when it was hard to do up around the middle and we were having leakage.
- had an ob app yesterday - she said i have 5 kg left to lose. i am pretty stoked about that.
Lmenz - love that new avatar. what a smile.
Mumlilspunk - re: fast flow. i read in an ABA phamphlet yesterday that if you have a gulper then you can attach bub then after letdown take them off for a minute while the excess milk sprays across the room! LOL. Or express off 30 ml of foremilk first. if he is still hungry at the end of the feed you could give him that last bit in a bottle. I havent tried either of these yet but i am thinking about it.
1TMIM (ist time mum in melb) - poor thing. hang in there. those lactation consultants are worth their weight in gold. good luck. remember to just take it one feed at a time.
Shelby - according to a book i am reading called save our sleep (tizzie hall) a 4 week old on average sleeps 15-17 hrs a day with 10 hours at night and 5-7 during the day spread over 3-4 daytime sleeps/naps. If olivia isnt sleeping well her feeding will be off and vice versa. Lily started doing what you described around that age and we worked out she had some heartburn pain. she is much better on medication but falls in the same horrible sleeping habits if we have been out a lot or not sleeping well in the day (even if she has slept really well at night) ie if she gets overstimulated. hope that helps.
It might be worth reading this book - i am a bit sceptical but have two friends who each independently swear by it.
sarah - good work on growing charlie. Lily is now 4.7kg at nearly 8 weeks (considering she was only 2.7 at birth i think that is pretty good). she is in mosltly 000 and large 0000. Hope the screaming subsides soon.
me - well fingers crossed but lily seems to have dropped another night feed. the last 2 nights she has been in bed by 7pm then a sleepy feed 930/10 than another feed at 3am and then up at 7am on the dot. the days have been ratty though. i am working on letting her be more independent on falling asleep (ie leaving the room). it is really hard to just walk out but it has worked twice so far and one other time she cried quite a lot. fingers crossed she'll get the hang of it soon.:fingerscrossed:
I have reason to rejoice today. For the first time EVER, DD2 slept through the night!!!!it was awesome!!! Congratulations!!! That's fantastic!
Is it just me but are the bonds sizes a bit different to all other clothes.. like a bit smaller? No, it's not just you, bonds jump suits are smaller, in fact Coen didn't fit into 00000, 0000, or the 000 (not sure about the 000)
harleyq- Billy has roughly the samr feeding patten as you have. ... Do you get to have a nanna nap during the day?
...During last nights 'problems' ds1 woke so hubby brought him back in to our bed and while i was lying there crying trying to handle Billys tantie ds1(jack) was rubbing my back and giving me kisses on my shoulder. I did cry a little more but then it was a happy cry.
Sorry for the rambles ladies.
Off to snooze coz ds1 is in day care till 1 so hopefull Billy sleeps a few more hours too.
I had some time today for a nana nap and l chose not to, even though l was really tired - cos l just wanted to do something for myself - does anybody else find that? I wanted the sleep, but l also wanted to do something - admiteddly it was catch up on bubhub -but it was something l wanted to do - as opposed to changing, feeding, burping etc.
OOOOOHHHHH your DS1 is so sweet!!!
1st time Mum in Melb - Big hugs to you - l hope its getting easier - l am glad we are getting together in two days (not that l am counting or anything) - it will give us all an opportunity to share and receive support in the flesh!!!
Can we have a show of hands (or posts ;)) please as to who is coming on Thursday?? ME ME ME!!! I am going to try to bring hedgehog - providing l get some time to make it - which judging by my day today is doubtful. I guess one of us should bring some drinks??? Juzzy is there anything else that we will need?
Shelby - :hugs: hope it got better for you and Olivia after your post. BTW - Coen doesn't sleep that much throughout the day - he had 2 x 40 minute sleeps during the day today only...
Now though almost every time she feeds she sucks a few times, starts swallowing and gulping it down then starts pushing against me with her arms and legs and moving her head from side to side with my nipple in her mouth (ouch) then will start screaming and detach herself. As soon as she is detached she continues crying but starts rooting for the nipple again so I reattach her and we start the cycle over again.....so distressing she seems like she is in pain but I have no idea what is wrong or what to do. Coen does the exact same thing - l agree with everyone else - it's wind - Coen grabs hold of my nipple and shakes his head like a dog with a bone - its bloody awful - with Coen it usually the precursor to him letting one rip - so l guess l should be grateful that at least he is getting it out... my MIL was holding him the other day and he farted a few times - she called him a "farter" in Italian ...
The Melb meet ...Also, is everyone going to carry their bubs or take the pusher? I don't like to carry R for too long as I get back ache. I have a horseshoe feeding cushion that I was going to bring as he likes to lie in that. I also have a big playmat that I could bring so the bubs can lay on the floor. I think l will bring my baby bouncer... l have been taking that with me when l go to my MIL's it works reasonably well - the mat is a great idea though - my friend swore by hers...
Oh l have to share this with you, in a bit of a sh*t with DH atm -cos after seeing his parents 5 times last week l get a call today saying they were coming over again - and he said they could - l said l am about to go for a nap and they insisted on coming over for just a short time -- l rang DH in hysterics cos l NEED a break from them... anyway when he got home he didn't quite get why l was sad... and sat on his a**e for awhile leaving me with Coen who by this stage l desperately needed a break from - anyway l am now leaving him to mind Coen... and l hear this over the intercom as he tries to calm him...
(in a sing song voice... typed as it is coming over the speaker...)
we should have put you out with hard rubbish (repeat by 3)... you are too much work (repeat by 3) followed by you're tired x2 & your smiling again x I've got a feeling you may cry x 2 & your mum doesn't like me anymore she thinks l am ****.... followed by Coen screaming again and the end of the sing song!!!
I will go and rescue my boys now.... see ya ladies...
Just quickly...
Ziggy - The number plate on my car is VOYFAN... any guess as to which Star Trek series is my favourite?? :D :laughing:
I went a bit Voyager crazy there for awhile. I've even been to a few Conventions (in my defence, I did NOT dress up in costume *LOL*). I've met seven of the nine cast members (but not actually Seven of Nine !!). I still love Voyager, but never ever seem to watch it any more... I really must do that sometime !!
(I also love Next Gen... not so keen on DS9, don't like the original series and I despise Enterprise).
hey guys
not much happening again tonight, DP and i had a bit of a tiff over housework and things like that... i pretty much said that i feel like a single mum looking after 2 kids and not one... since he hasnt been helping me much i have been trying to do everything while Cassidy sleeps during the day. DP has gone to bed, has been there for an hour now... sulking cause i got angry at him.... i know what will happen... he will tell me he is sorry and that he willl start to help me more, that will last a day or two then it will all go back the way it was....
Grrrrr males suck... ok went over....
As i am typing i can see Cassidy lying on a playmat... gurgling to herself quite happily... Meanwhile.... she is attempting to roll over!!!! She can get on her side but i dont think she can figure out how to get the rest of the way before she goes back onto her back!! Shes kicking her little legs on the air and everything... so cute!
As for the meet on thursday... you guys are more than welcome to bring whatever you think will entertain ur bubba... My house isnt the biggest place out... its only 2 bedroom... but i can make more room in the lounge just by moving the couch out of the way i guess.... that way we can still see the babies from the table and everything (yeah good thinkin, Juzzy!)
As for the floor, i have tiles in the lounge... i usually just put a blanket on the floor and then the playmat on top of that so that the cold of the tiles doesnt come thru.
oh and for those bf mummas... i have a nice rocking chair that i find great for bfing.... :)
as for food... i bag the chips and dip :D and ill provide some other goodies too... as for drinks any suggestions are welcome
i havent had a get together like this for awhile so i cant remember what i should be providing lol
oh, penny and ziggy... my DP (as annoying as he is) is going to love both of you as he is a big fan of all of those shows.... please dont tell me you watch stargate sg1 and all that stuff too??
anyway i am off.... good night everyone :fingerscrossed: we all get a good night sleep!
EskimoMumma
27-03-2007, 21:24
Ziggy- what does it say about sleeping for 7-10week olds? hehe.:o
I had a question for all of you. In light of DD2 sleeping at night last night,she did it while cosleeping. Should I push my luck and see if she will do it on her own in the cot tonight or continue the cosleeping??Because I do want to the girls to share a room eventually and am not sure if cosleeping this early will create a habit or not??
And I was wondering if you gals with other bubs are bringing them too or just the newbies?
Harley- if that was my INLaws I wouldnt even let them through the door. That said I once had my SIL come for a visit..she stayed until 3am!!:banghead:
*Sparkles*
27-03-2007, 22:28
How many of you are suffering with arsenic hour every evening? We had it constantly for a few weeks but just over the last few nights it seems to have stopped :fingerscrossed:
He does still cry at times but it's not the same hysterical screaming and we can settle him.
Problem we have now is that he doesn't want to go in his basinette during the day anymore, he just cries or sleeps for half an hour and then wakes up but is still tired. He has taken to sleeping in his swing more. It makes it hard to get anything done :rolleyes:
SuperFrog
27-03-2007, 22:36
Stargate fan here :yelclap: My friend offered me $1000 if I had a girl and named her Oma-Desala. Lucky we had a boy huh?
Hope everyone has a great time at the big meet up. Moggs, Wendy (not sure of her bubhub username) and I have decided to have our own catch-up this week over the Western side of town. Looking forward to meeting some of you in person finally!
Quick question - has anyone used baby Panadol/Nurofen yet? Liam was very unsettled today, which is unusual for him, and felt like he had a high temp. I was apprehensive about using medication as he hasn't had it before. Has all settled now, and he actually fell asleep while having his bath! But I'm going to have to face this eventually. Thoughts?
I should be in bed... I get distracted so easily when I open up my laptop.
Hope everyone gets a decent night's sleep. :fingerscrossed:
EskimoMumma
27-03-2007, 22:37
Yeaa..DD2 loves her swing too ..and bouncer :o :eek:
EskimoMumma
27-03-2007, 22:39
I use baby panadol. I wouldnt use nurofen until after 6months, no real reason behind that, just feel better using it after that age as it is a little stronger?:confused:
I have no problems using it though and rarely use it. I think ive used it once on DD2 so far.
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