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~Kimba~
03-02-2007, 12:43
OK starting a new thread for Oct 06 Mums and Bubs to continue their chatting, now that it's February, thought it would make it easier to keep track.

All mums of October 06 bubs welcome (and other months too of course!), we talk a lot :ecomcity: but don't be shy to join in :D

PS: Click on MILESTONES (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=66547) and GROWTH (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=66701) to update our new threads with your bubba's stats!

SalTheGal
03-02-2007, 12:59
Yay thanks Kimba, I've been hovering waiting for some clever chickie (ie, you) to start this up as I didn't know how to link it.:thumbsup:

Hope everyone is enjoying their sat......I am a very happy mummy today!!

Had some revelations yesterday with my very learned and wonderful SIL when discussing Nedds feeds/sleep issues etc.

Heres what we thought of, maybe it might help others?

Daytime- Nedd is really entrenched in his feed play sleep routine.......usually up for 1.5hrs then sleeps for 1hr. Therefore on a 2.5hr cycle, which I had thought was cause he was hungry........but now I figure probably cause I am putting him down to sleep too soon- If I can extend his awake time then I extend the time between feeds. I have just been putting him down for a nap @ 1.5hrs cause its kinda easier to do that than have to entertain him for an extra 30mins or so (bad neglectful mummy!) So we are now trying to keep him up longer and already it is working we are getting more consistent 3-3.5hr routines, and he is quite hppy to be up longer as long as he is being entertained.

Nightime- Our routine for Nedd has lately been BF @ 7pm, bath, bottle @ 8pm, bed, then rollover BF @ 9.30pm. BUT I have figured that the rollover off me is really just comfort cause I am usually empty by then- so his last real feed is at 8pm, so no surprise he is awake @ 3am for a feed.

Last night we did: BF @ 7pm, bath, BED, Rollover BOTTLE @ 9.30pm......and my little munchkin went through till 4.30am for his next feed (granted he was awake between 1.45-2.30 needing resettling but he definitely wasn't hungry- just awake).

I feel so happy today :smiliedance: cause I feel like I have something to work on.....and if he extends his daytime feeds cause of this new routine it means maybe I don't have that much problems with my supply IYKWIM?!?!

ANyhoo- just thought I'd share (sorry I ramble so much!)

BBL for personals, lunch is ready......fish and chips today- major peril of living NEXT DOOR to one of the best fish n chip shops in town!!:D

SalTheGal
03-02-2007, 13:01
Oh and I love the idea of a milestones thread too.......i often think that bubhub will be great to look back on all my posts over the years to see how Nedd has developed, kinda like our online diary!:wizard:

sare
03-02-2007, 14:38
Hi girls,

Hope you are all enjoying your weekends. Just another quiet one for us...

Both of the girls seem to be over the worst of their colds at the moment. Eloise even went to her swimming lesson today.

Lara almost rolled over from her back to her tummy today...I don't think it's going to be too long before she works out how to make it all the way over. She's been really sleepy today because she hardly slept at all yesterday. Dh had the day off work yesterday, he has been sick all week, but he also wanted to get some work done on our front garden. While I was out with the girls, he decided that it was too hot, so instead he cleaned the whole house. He's a treasure Valentine

Beck - I read the article in the Herald Sun too. It was interesting to read. I have to say though, I am still more than happy to feed Lara to sleep. I think the point that absolutely astounded me was when they said that new parents lose up to 500 hours sleep in their baby's 1st year :eek: . That's a hell of a lot of sleep.

Sal - Well done on the new routine. I'd be seeing another dr if my dr was abrupt like that. Did she give you a reason as to why she wouldn't prescribe it? You've already being things to increase your supply, seriously what else does she expect you to do?

Kimba & Lucy - Phew!!! Glad you both enjoyed Gymbaroo. I thought you'd want me hung, drawn and quartered if it wasn't all that I'd built it up to be.

Bec - :smiliedance: on Ella for sleeping so well last night.

Jen - Hope you are enjoying the wedding.

Just a quick question... if your b/fing are you still wearing breastpads? or am I abnormal (already know the answer to that one - hehe)

Well I'm off to have a little look around bub hub and then have a nanna nap. Have a great day...

Flower159
03-02-2007, 16:48
Hiya everyone. Just a quick one from me as I'm melting like ice cream here.

I have made a rod for my own back ladies. Logan does not want to take my BF anymore. He is OK for a few minutes then refuses both boobs, but will take a bottle. So, after much soul searching I decided to go all out on FF. So now he's not taking full feeds on the formula, just seems to want a couple of oz's every half hour. He wont settle and hasn't slept for more than half an hour at nap times. Although he did sleep for 8 hours last night, so I can't complain there. But what should I do???!?!? I still have milk to BF, but he's just not having it for a proper feed. I realise that it is stinking hot, so I gave him some water to see if he was just thirsty, but you'd think that I'd given him poison the face he pulled!! Any advice girls? I had no bother with DDs moving on to formula, just this little horror!! And do your babies wriggle about when they're eating? He wont stay still for his bottle and wriggles like a maddy. I'm thinking there's something that I'm not doing right and I'm just missing it - please help you fount of knowlege's !!!

sorry about the me post, but it's frustrating!!!!

Hope you are all good.
Marion.xx

m_jelly
03-02-2007, 17:16
Sorry Marion, no advice here, wouldnt have a clue what to do with formula or weaning.

Sare - yay on the rolling! Abbey can still only go one way - back to tummy and then stuck. Good thing she doesnt really get upset about her position for ages now, like 30 minutes or more.
Re BF and breastpads - yep. I still use them. Get the occasional let down when she cries or I hear something stupid like a rooster crow (I dont even want to think about what that means), always get opposite boob leakage when feeding, and one booby still drenches the pad at night.

Good work on the new thread, I hadnt realised it was February, but I get confused about the days now. I missed the garbo and stood some friends up...my bad. I thought Friday was Thursday.

Yep, if someone who has already hit the 4 month mark wants to start the stats thread, I'll post in it next week when Abbey is officially big. She was 8kg a month ago, so now I just call her 'big' until i get a new number. Chubba bubba!

I'm dead sexy. My baby belly is still all flabby and skinful so in tight pants it looks like I have a front bottom. I have a nappy pin holding these pants up at the moment, so hooray for BF and further flab reduction.

Abbey and I had lunch with a friend the other day. A huge steak for me and booby for bubs, but felt sooo unwelcome with a baby in that place. Even had to get a waitress to carry the pram downstairs to get there. Silly girl tried to pick it up with Abbey still in it...:rolleyes:

Well there is a nakey bu on my lap the mo, so im tempting fate with every second. Off to the bath for some splash time!

Oh we have a bath song i sing every night, does anyone else?

~Kristin~
03-02-2007, 17:50
Sare – I’m still using breast pads, and I have to change them every couple of hours or so, and once during the night. :o

Marion – Sorry, you have lost me too. I know nothing about FF or weaning. I’m still struggling with the few things I do know!! :confused:

Kimba - Nice work on the milestone thread, just have to remember to keep it updated now! :thumbsup:


M-jelly - I've got that same designer as you! That sexy flabby belly number is HOT! ;)

Ladies - After waking to comfort Isabella every 2 hrs last night due to needles, I'm shattered today. I'm so used to her sleeping through now. If anyone see's my eyes lying around somewhere can they kindly forward them back to me, I think they fell out after hanging out of my head for so long.....

m_jelly
03-02-2007, 18:37
quick question - are you supposed to have the bath before the tired signs start or is that the normal cue to start the bath n bedtime routine?

~Kimba~
03-02-2007, 20:01
Hello Hello!

I know, I should be in bed. Jet has been, for almost 3 hours (with a resettle in between). That's 3 hours sleep I could have had! But I tried and can't sleep :rolleyes:

Michelle - Yay on the rolling! LOL at the rooster crow letdown. I usually do bathtime around the same time each night, give or take 30min, unless he's obviously really tired (like today, because he missed his pm nap) and showing bigtime tired signs, in which case I just do it earlier. Although I find if I do the bedtime routine TOO early (like today) he thinks he's only gone down for a nap and wakes after 40min then needs to be resettled. Whereas if I do it at the 'usual' time he usually stays down till his first room service call of the night.

I'm still waiting for BF to reduce my flab!!! I haven't lost a single kilo since I got back to pre-preg weight, and boy do I need to! I was hoping BFing would be my miracle weightloss cure. Dammit.

Kristin - you poor tired mumma! :hugs: Welcome to the 2 hourly night waking club - I SO know how you feel, that was what it was like for me when Jet reverted, after sleeping so well till 11 weeks or so. I can't believe he's been like this for a MONTH when will it end? Please don't tell me he'll be like this till he's 1...

Marion - hmm I don't know either. Luckily Jet will take both bottle and boob and seems to be over his breast refusal (thank goodness). If you're happy to wean Logan off the breast maybe you could express your milk and give it to him in a bottle, until it dries up? Or if you want him to keep BFing then maybe just BF at night when he's sleepy? Jet does fuss at the bottle at times and is very wriggly - mainly when it's too slow for him (eg blocked teat or too much thickener - or no letdown, when he's on the boob)
Have you checked the teat flow and tried different teats? Maybe it's too fast for Logan after being used to the boob. Or maybe it's too slow?

Sare - I think I've lost 500 hours sleep in my first 4 months as a mum LOL. glad the girls are better. Wow Lara is almost rolling that's great! I will be so excited the first time I see Jet do it on his own :laughing: . And yeah we LOVED Gymbaroo it's just what my boy needs, he loves the physical play so it's perfect for us. No breastpads here, I've never needed them though, so i thought I was the abnormal one :o The few times I've leaked it's been in bed. I do get a little tiny leak from the opp. boob when I have a letdown but it's so small it's not worth wearing a pad for.

Sal - thanks for sharing what's working for you. It's always good to get ideas from other mums. Hey I wish rollover bottles worked like that for me! They seem to make no difference to Jet. Bugger! LOL.

ourfirstbubba
03-02-2007, 20:09
hi girls

hope you are all well..thanks Kimba for starting a new thread, you clever girl!

Natalia woke up on Thursday morning with all these red welts/bites on her face, under her neck and underarms....she has had similar ones before, I am assuming/was assuming mossies. Anyway, we went shopping with my MIL yesterday and thought id stop in at a chemist that also has an ECHN..she looked at them and thought maybe they were hives, but also thought that maybe it was "staf" or stapphocical (sp?)..I freaked out...she told me to go and see our doctor, so we went straight there...mind you, Natalia has been well, no fever, eating and sleeping as normal..so we get to the doctors and the nurse looks at her and says 'I think she has chickenpox, but we will wait to see what the Dr. say"..again, freak out and dear MIL has to calm me down whilst Natalia happily chews her fingers.....the dr looks at her and says its definetely not chickenpox as she is too well, and he put it down to a viral infection that will go away in a few days....:banghead: why do they put everything down to a "virus"....anyway, she seems okay today, no new spots and the ones she had are getting lighter and smaller......am keeping an eye on her, I set my alarm every two hours last night to check if she had a fever but she was fine...anyone else have anything similar with their bubs??

Sal- Natalia is up for generally two hours and then sleeps for one hour, then we start again..so I am feeding her every three or so hours....it works well for us and I know when she is getting tired so I quickly wrap her, offer her some more of her bottle, sing twinkle twinkle and into bed......well, I grew up in a fish and chips shop..my parents owned one until I was nearly 18...I can make a mean burger! I was making them in the shop since I was about 12!

Sare- what a sweetie your husband..isnt it nice when hey do things without asking them?? glad the girls are getting over their colds...

Marion- what sort of bottles/teats are you using?? If you have been b/f they advise to use teats that resemble the nipple as much as possible..when I switched to bottle I started on the Tommee Tippee closer to nature bottles and teats and had no dramas...what formula are you using?? Natalia does wriggle a bit but I try and feed her somewhere quiet otherwise she squirms and wants to look at everything, even my earrings...bless her...I guess if he is hungry he will take the milk..good luck...

Michelle- I hate places where they make you feel like you have two heads.....and as for the waitress, duh!!!! I sing Natalia whatever..I usually make up songs, she loves it! But her bedtime song is Twinkle Twinkle, wherever we are..thats her cue to sleep..it works....also, we give Natalia a bath at about 6.15pm, then a massage, then her bottle, a short walk in the pram, cuddles, story, some more milk and she is normally in bed about 7.30pm.....

Kristin- will keep an eye open for your eyes.....hope you get more sleep tonight :fingerscrossed:

well my little monkey pants is sound asleep with her lullaby music on in the background...hubby and I are going to have a bowl of icecream with Milo on top and then watch telly in bed...sleep well girls

xo
Mary

lucy72
03-02-2007, 21:37
Good evening,

Well done Jet on 3 hours sleep! :smiliedance: Proud of you. Now to extend that to 8 hours and let Mummy catch up on her sleep as she might hit 1,000 hours shortly!!!

Mary, poor Natalia. Hopefully they dont worry her. I know the nurse told us last week that when bubs teeth their saliva has something it in that can give them a rash if they are dribbling, but nothing about welts. If they keep returning I'd probably get a second opinion. Burgers - when are you in Sydney next??? My mouth is watering over this - I love a good burger - must have beetroot.

Actually today I drove past my OB's rooms and saw that O Portos is opening about 5 dorrs away from her rooms. Help me when the next bub comes and I get those hot chip cravings again!!! I love chicken salt!

Michelle, we give Jordan a bath usually after dinner. usually he is showing his tired signs by then. I know how you feel when someone is not welcoming with a pram. I bet they don;t have kids or have never been around them. Their day will come. Silly cow...

Kristin, Jordan was really unsettled at these needles as well. Took him a couple of days to get back into it. On Wednesday night (or was that Thursday????) he woke all the time. I ended up sleeping in the spare room with him. Only way we could both get some sleep. I noticed yesterday there were tiny little bumps where the needle was. might be a stronger dosage for the 4 month ones.....

Sare, I think the last hanging in melbourne was in the 1800's so you are safe. :laughing: Glad to hear the clan is getting back to good health!

well Jordan rolled again from tummy to back today so no accident. I even got this one on video!! It is funny to watch as he has no idea what just happened!!! The expression on his face is priceless!

I have now finished my cutting up and baking for the Kitchen Tea tomorrow. We are giving her a cellar tea and have asked everyone to bring 2 bottles of wine. one for her to take home and one for everyone to try. They live together so have most things and enjoy a glass or two so thought this was a good idea.

Well I had better head to bed so I can be refreshed for tomorrow. Hope everyone is well and Kristin I hope you are having a good time at the wedding.

Chat soon!
Lucy

PS - Have put Jordans stats on the milestones - great idea Kimba!!!!

suemp
04-02-2007, 08:52
just qa quicky
kane gets bathed wen i have time for it. nights are often hectic here lol
flower. kane was like that at first. he soon settled into a routine
and jake always got rashes wen he had a virus as a baby. its ment to be very common except jakews used to look like really bad heat rash like the measles. gotto rush

~Kimba~
04-02-2007, 09:41
Sleep report: asleep at 6.20 (had a big day), resettled and topped up at 7, awake at 11.30, 1.30, 4.50, into bed with us at 6 and up for the day at 7. So, not improving - although it was nice to get a 3 hour stretch between 1.50 and 4.50 for once!

:banghead: I had Jet settled for his morning nap today without wrapping him, got him into the cot no dramas, but he self-startled and his arms and legs woke him and he started bawling :mad: Picked him up, settled him again, back into the cot w/ no crying, drifting off to sleep, and he did it again! So much for the startle reflex disappearing at 3 months? I'm going to have to keep wrapping him forever at this rate.

VENT: I'm SO sick of DH not doing anything to help settle Jet for naps in the daytime, and sick of doing everything around here without a break while DH sits on his skinny ar$e. So just now I put Jet in DH's arms and said 'YOU stay in his room and hold him and rock him and do whatever it takes to get him to sleep, so you can see what I go through 4 times a day without your help' and shut the door. Now I can hear Jet yowling and DH snapping at him :( DH has to learn how to do it though - how else is he going to look after Jet every afternoon when I go back to work? He has to be able to get him down for at least one nap. I don't want to come home from work every day to an overstimulated overtired baby and DH saying 'he wouldn't sleep' :banghead:

Ah cr@p better go I can hear Jet getting really upset and DH is standing in the doorway shaking his head.

BBL for some personals!

beck75
04-02-2007, 10:32
Hey All

Kimba - I am still the only one who gets Kayley off to sleep which I am OK with but means if I go out she stays awake and gets grumpy so I have to work on that - I need to teach DH before hockey season starts so I can hopefully go to training.

As for weight, I am about a kg heavier then pre-preg weight. My tummy isnt as flabby as it was but is definately still bigger than it used to be. I dont really have to lose a lot of weight - just need some (well lots of) toning up!

I feel like a bad mumma today - took Kayley to DHs summer hockey in her baby bjorn. She wore a hat and we sat in the shade but the poor thing has sunburnt cheeks and nose now. So much for keeping her out of the sun for first 6 months. I didnt use sunscreen as my baby sunscreen says not to use before 6 months - is anyone else using it.

Kayleys bathtime is about 7.30 - 8.00 (although last night was 8.30 as I was waching a movie on Foxtel (bab mum)! Plan to make it earlier when daylight savings finishes and stick to the dark time bed time thing. As for day routines, Kayley is usually up around 1h15m - 2h before sleeping and her feeds are usually 45m - 1hr (sometimes longer) - I dont really time put down but she does get grumpy when she is tired and that is when I put her down. She slept in her baby bjorn yesterday (ant then an hour on the pillow on the couch after a feed (bad mum I know but I wasnt going to wake her up)!

Well I have never had to use breast pads as I very rarely leak - like you Kimba I think we are the odd ones!! I think I only just have enough milk for Kayley but she is doing well so it must be quality not quantity!

Well I have to go as she is waking up.

Best wishes to all.

~Kimba~
04-02-2007, 10:41
Beck - I do use sunscreen on Jet as the Cancer Council website (http://www.cancercouncil.com.au/editorial.asp?pageid=2114) says it's OK and I trust them! I use a rollon baby 30+. I just don't put it on his hands or near his mouth although I do put a little bit under his chin, on his nose and upper cheeks which probably ends up in his mouth eventually, but what can you do? :confused:

I don't want him to get burnt even if he is half Indonesian with a really dark-skinned Daddy (a bit of inbuilt sun protection there :laughing: )

ourfirstbubba
04-02-2007, 11:13
good morning girls

its hot here today! Am so looking forward to cooler weather....am definetely more a winter girl than a summer girl......

Hey, I had a thought.....maybe Kimba you can start a new thread for any of us who want to share their birth story...I did post one ages ago but this was before I realized that us Oct Mums had a new section.....just an idea anyway....

well my little monkey pants has been asleep since 10.30am, and she slept last night from 7.30pm through until 5.45am then feed and back down from 6.30am until 8.30am.....gotta say we are very fortunate with her sleep, she knows when she is tired and how to go back to sleep when she wakes up.....

her little bites or whatever they are seem to be better......

we are having a quiet day at home today, we might go for coffee later this afternoon, but at the moment I have had a shower and am sitting on the couch in the air con with Will and Grace on......


Lucy hope the cellar tea goes well today, what a great idea........poor little Jordan, Natalia has her 4 month needles on Tuesday.....I bawled last time........isnt it funny when they roll over, they almost look proud of themselves!
and yes, a good burger should always have beetroot!

Sue if you saw Natalias skin you would think it was measles or chicken pox, but she is alot better today

Kimba I would keep up with the wrapping..we had stopped for a week and that was the week that Natalia started waking earlier than normal.....apparently you can wrap until 12 months, maybe look into a safety wrap (www.safetsleep.com) if you are worried about tummy rolling....as for your hubby, leave Jet with him today and you go and have an icecream...they need to know how to look after the baby as well as we do.....I cant complain at all with my hubby, he is great...

beck75- I think babies get burnt easier....even in the shade and in the BabyBjorn...just a question cause we have one too, do you face Kayley outwards now in hers?? are you happy with yours? I just find putting Natalia in it a struggle sometimes..not as easy as I thought it would be...find the sling a bit more user friendly, but want to use the BabyBjorn too...

well, better go and get lunch ready....have a great day girls

beck75
04-02-2007, 12:34
Hi All

Mary - I have Kayley turned around in the Baby Bjorn now (facing outwards) and she is much happier in it. I took her shopping twice last week like that and she didnt whinge at all - she likes to see what is going on! She fell asleep in it yesterday! Congrats on the sleep and glad to here the spots are getting better.

Kimba - I have the banana boat baby sunscreen but it says do not use under 6 months without docs advice - but after yesterday I think I will start using it! When I get around to getting a new pram I am definately looking for one with a UV shade. I am lucky that her cheeks are only a bit pink and it isnt a really bad burn but still makes me feel a bit bad. She has beautiful skin I would hate her to freckle this early (like her mum)!

SalTheGal
04-02-2007, 13:22
Morning all,:wave:

Well pretty quiet day here, just catching up on some housework and packing before we go away on tues…. does anyone else have to leave the house spotless when you go away? I hate coming home to housework!

Sare- Glad your lot are all on the mend. Good job DH doing housework…mine thought he was helping this morning by doing a load of washing- went and put my new dark denim skirt in with lights, now I have a ruined load of clothes. Doesn’t everyone just know not to put darks with lights?!?!

Oh I haven’t had to use breast pads since when my milk first came in, I very rarely leak.

Marion- sorry no advice re the FF/BF confusion- maybe just persevere and see if he get used to it? And like others said, maybe change teats? Nedd is starting to get wriggly now whilst feeding- he is a little sticky nose!

Michelle- had to giggle at the rooster call, don’t even wanna think bout what that means!!

We bath Nedd straight after his evening feed- we look at it as taking the place of playtime, so do it when he is happy rather than when he is tired.

Kristin :hugs: for the lack of sleep, try and catch up on some today.

Mary- Hope Natalias rash clears up no probs, and I am so jealous of you growing up with a fish n chip shop, yummo, and yep agreed on the beetroot in hamburger call!

Lucy- hope your cellar tea goes well today, what a fantastic idea!

Bec- I have some sunscreen for Nedd and can’t find it stated anywhere that it shouldn’t be used under 6mnths:confused: it is Hamilton’s brand, although I haven’t had to use it so far cause he is mostly in his pram outdoors and it has a great UV shade.

Kimba- I haven’t lost any extra weight due to bf either, and I was so counting on it…one of the reasons I don’t want to give up bf just yet!!! I would keep wrapping Jet; I will be wrapping Nedd for a long time to come yet! Can’t see any reason not too…. it is just another way he recognises sleep time, I even wrap Nedd when I am out and about and he is in his pram.

I had the same problem with my DH settling Nedd last week, and since he is going to be looking after Nedd fulltime in two weeks whilst I am at conference we have been “workshopping” his settling techniques (and patience factor) and today he said he feels like he is finally capable of settling Nedd himself. This is after him getting so angry and frustrated with Nedd for not settling. I got him to start realising that Nedd can’t help getting upset (he is only little after all!!), he needs to be patient with him, embrace the time he has giving him a cuddle for sleepy time- rather than wanting it to happen quickly so he can get back to whatever he was doing. Hope yours gets there soon too! But mainly I had to not get annoyed with DH but rather work through it all with him till he felt comfortable with it himself.:hugs:

sare
04-02-2007, 16:58
Hi girls,

A stinker of a day here and it's going to be worse tomorrow. We've got the air con blasting so at least it's not too bad.

The girls are both well; nothing new to repot there.

Sal - I just did what you did the other day and had a look at the links to everybody's photos (well flika was 'having a massage' so I couldn't look at Kimba's or Lucy's) Nedd is a little spunk and his dimple ... just love it.. think I've chosen Lara's future hubby :laughing: Bad luck about your clothes. Washing is one thing that dh always leaves for me... and it's the one job I don't mind doing.

Beck - I use sunscreen on Lara too I just avoid her hands, eyes and mouth. I spoke to the pharmacist and he said it was fine. I found a baby roll on and use that. I loved Kayley's photos too. She looks like such a happy, smily little bub.

Kristin - Your new avatar is beautiful. Isabella is a cutie. I love black and white photos. I hope Isabella slept better for you last night.

Mary - I'm with you on prefering winter (think we have a bit in common - I'm a primary school teacher too, love Marian Keyes...) I hope Natalia's rash is clearing. Eloise had a number of rashes when she was younger, some were when she had a virus and her body was getting rid of it, but the one where she had welts were some sort of allergy. She has had them a few times and we have no idea what she is allergic to. I think it might be a plant, but we will probably never know. My g/f's daughter who has chicken pox said that her spots didn't look like chicken pox at all, they looked more like mozzie bites but the dr put a magnifying glass to them and said they were definitely chicken pox... :fingerscrossed: it's something that heals quickly for Natalia.

Kimba - :hugs: for you. Your dh needs a kick up the bum. I guess I'm lucky because my dh has always helped with girls. Maybe you need to have some practice runs before you go to work and leave dh with Jet for a while, somewhere close by where dh can call you home if he desperately needs you, but far enough away that he has to learn to settle Jet. Oh by the way ... yay on Jet sleeping 3hrs in the middle of the night...now if only he can stretch a bit longer for you.

Lucy - Well done to Jordan rolling over again!!! Hope you had a lovely time at the cellar tea.

Michelle - lol at the rooster crowing... don't know what it means either. We have a bath song - I sing (very badly may I add) this is the way we wash our (insert body part) ... when we're in the bath to the tune of 'Here we go round the Mulberry Bush'. Lara just loves being sung to, even by my terrible voice. :p

Marion - Sorry I can't help you with your problem...I had the opposite problem with Eloise (and I'm sure I will with Lara too), they wouldn't take a bottle, just loved the boobie.

Sue - Hope you are doing ok. You've had a lot on your plate lately. Take it easy.

With it being 38 here tomorrow, I'm going out shopping and for lunch with mum and the girls. I also need to order the cake for Lara's baptism and Eloise needs some new shoes. Then I am going to spend the rest of the week at home to really try and get Eloise toilet trained (it's such a pain...not looking foward to when I have to train Lara, although she may be a bit easier because Eloise will be TT then -I HOPE!!!)

Well I'm off. Enjoy what's left of the weekend.

~Kimba~
04-02-2007, 18:24
Phew what a stinker. SO glad we got AC installed last September, although it's only in the living room and both bedrooms are still stuffy as...we've got fans running all night so I am dreading our electricity bill this quarter! :eek:

I suppose it's a little unfair of me to make DH settle Jet when I can't even do it myself at the moment...but since none of my methods work any more I was hoping maybe he would come up with a way of doing it that I hadn't tried! Ah well. Today I let Jet stay up for much longer between naps, he was looking so tired the poor bugger, but he did go down a bit easier and stay down longer, so that's what worked today at least! He only got 2 naps in but they were both for over an hour which I think has gotta be better than 3 catnaps.

I'm happy today though because my booby-loving boy is back :smiliedance: He even refused a bottle today because he wanted the boobs, even though he'd already sucked me dry (my supply dropped since he wasn't feeding much in the day). Just hope my boobs catch up quick and increase my supply before he goes off them again! :laughing:

michelle - today as I was bathing Jet I started singing 'Splish Splash I was takin a bath, lalala' (don't know any more words :laughing: ) and realised that I do it every time! So I do have a bathing song after all.

sare - Lara is gorgeous in your avatar. enjoy your shopping tomorrow at least you'll be in aircon all day! I think you're such a trooper persevering with TT Eloise while you have your hands full with a new bub as well. A lot of other people would have just put it off till later. A friend of mine still has her DS in nappies and he's 3!

sal - Nedd is so cute! I hate coming home to housework too but at the moment our place looks like a bomb has gone off! I'm trying the same approach with DH, but it's so hard not to get annoyed with him sometimes...especially when he sits there watching Cheaters or Cops (or something equally worthwhile) while I'm settling a crying bub and there's bottles to be washed and nappies to be folded and clothes to be put away...

beck - that's great that Kayley fell asleep in the Baby Bjorn, I keep hoping Jet will do it one day!

mary - OMG your new avatar photo - Natalia is just beautiful! yep I also agree that real hamburgers have to have beetroot! Hope Natalia's rash clears up, it sounds like it isn't getting any worse at least.

Hmm sounds like my little monkey might need resettling - have a good night all!

ourfirstbubba
04-02-2007, 20:54
hi girls

hope you are all well and surviving the heat.....

OMG, Natalia ate so much tonight..normally she will have about 180ml before she goes to bed..tonight she had 280ml....she was not going to settle until her belly was absolutely full...its funny how their appetites can change....today she has had close to 900ml and we still have her rollover feed at 11pm, other days she can have 700ml for the whole day and be happy with that...she seems to have put on a bit more weight this week.....

we spent most of the day at home but when Natalia woke up after her second nap at 3.15pm we went and had coffee near the beach...I popped her in my sling and off we went..when we got to the coffee shop this lovely elderly couple smiled at us, then the lady came over to us and told us that her husband thought we had a little poodle in the pouch..how funny! Natalia popped her head out and I told her she was definetely not a poodle...we giggled!


Beck75- I am going to try Natalia round the other way..I wasnt sure if she was too little...she has good head control but not fully stable yet....

Sal- I am exactly the same..even if we are going out for the whole day I like to leave the house nice and tidy..I hate mess! Where are you going away to? Was it QLD?? God bless your hubby...at least he was trying...I have to separate them for my hubby, he just doesnt get it......he cant understand why you cant put towels with other clothes and what "colours" go together....poor buggers....

Sare- how long have you been teaching for? I have only been teaching since last year...I did my Dip Ed in 2005....am so glad that I did that course as I was sick of working in the corporate world.....I am not permanent though.....long waiting list her in Newcastle...but I was getting alot of work with one school in particular and I have told them that I am available for day to day work (I only want 2 days a week max)....38 degrees...yuck...I would be spending the day at a shopping centre too...come on winter!

Kimba- woo hoo on Jet loving your boobies again! And thanks on the compliment on Natalias new picture...I love this one...I am going to enlarge and frame it for home......she has huge eyes, like her Italian Daddy.....hope your little monkey sleeps well tonight...wrap him tight tight tight....

well, I am off to straighten my hair...I love it when its straight but HATE having to do it....but I guess I dont have to do it everyday then....ahh, the joys of being a girl!

Have a great night girls

xoxo

sare
04-02-2007, 21:23
Ok just a quick one ... now Nedd has some competition for Lara's affections -lol. Just had a look at your photos Kimba and Lucy and your boys are just adorable. It is amazing how much they have grown in a short space of time.

Mary - I've been teaching since 1997. I did a Bachelor of Arts/Bachelor of Teaching, which means I can teach from prep to yr 12, but it's primary for me. I have a permanent position at the local catholic primary school and have been on maternity leave since August 2004. I have been back in a 0.2 position (ESL with new arrivals) and have done some emergency teaching, but just at my school. I was speaking to my parish priest today (he's my boss) and he said that my position will be held for me as long as I like and suggested that I do job share to ease myself back in when i want to go back. Now I just have to get my principal to agree. :fingerscrossed:

Be back on again tomorrow after my big shop ;)

Becbabe
05-02-2007, 06:09
Hi everyone –

Another 6 hr stretch last night, followed by a 3 hr… hurrah! Maybe this will be a pattern?! She woke at 6 this morning and seemed wide awake
(legs poking through the cot side, chatting to herself) so I got up with her. But she seems a bit quiet so maybe tomorrow if she does the same thing I’ll feed her in her dark room and see if she might do back to sleep?

Also yesterday she did a new “trick”… she was sitting facing me with me holding her, so I let go… and she pushed herself into a sitting position by herself!! Cue very excited noises from mummy & daddy!

Sal, glad you’ve found something that works for you! It’s great when something clicks like that.

Sare, glad the girls are feeling better. & isn’t it great having a DP who cleans! Makes you forgive a hell of a lot!

Re breastpads – my boobies usually only leak after a reeeeally long stretch, on the other side when we feed. And only my left booby! However for about a week now when I’m rocking Ella to sleep, the left booby drips… weird. Having said that I have pads in my work bag and a spare shirt just in case.

Marion sorry you’re having trouble with feeding. I’m pretty useless for advice on this one but hope it gets better for you both.

M_jelly, people don’t realize the business they miss out on by not being baby friendly do they? Glad you had a good steak though. Mmmm steak, drooling over red meat & it’s 7am! Carnivore. Re bedtime – it’s the start of bedtime for us unless she’s mega tired, in which case we skip the shower!

Kristin sorry you guys had a bad night. Hope last night was better and it was just the needles.

Kimba yay for Jet proving he does know how to sleep for 3 hrs! I’m with you on the bedtime. I was trying to get into an earlier bedtime but it just means a nap rather than a big 1st sleep.

Got to go – Ella is getting very wriggly! Have to read the next 2 pages later!

~Kimba~
05-02-2007, 08:41
Morning all - Got the aircon on already it's so sweaty here and it's only 9.30am!

Sleep report :rolleyes: down at 6.30, resettle at 7.15, up for feeds 11.20, 1.50 (took 25 min to get him back down), 4.20, and 5.30 into bed with me till 7.20. Sigh. He seems really hungry at the feeds too, drinks hard for ages, not just comfort sucking and dozing off right away.

Are they due another growth spurt around 16 weeks?

Bec - can you send Ella over to have a talk to Jet about sleeping 6+3 at night that sounds perfect to me! Well done on the sitting by herself! :yelclap: I know you're a working mama now but if you get a chance, update our Milestones (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=66547) thread with Ella's achievements so we can all see how clever she is!

Sare and Mary - I did a Bachelor of Education too although it was Secondary Art Education. No jobs for Art Teachers when I graduated, looong waitlist, so I ended up in the corporate sector. Really want to get back into teaching though (even with a paycut) because the hours and conditions are so much more family-friendly. So I've been part-time studying English, Linguistics, and Indonesian so that I can teach TESOL/ ESL, English, Indonesian OR Art. That's my 5-year plan anyway :fingerscrossed:

Sare - good luck shopping today!

Mary - laughing at the old dears thinking Natalia was a poodle!!! :laughing: We took Jet out in the Baby Bjorn facing forwards the other day and he seemed to love it (till now he has hated it). That'd be right, just when he's getting too heavy for our backs, LOL.

ikis84
05-02-2007, 09:36
The poodle comment was funny Mary - when DH has Olivia in the hugabub and she is asleep, you can't even see her in there... it looks just like he is wearing a shirt and has a really odd shaped body. He gets some strange looks! We started putting Olivia face out just before 3months - she had very good/stable head control though, and it would only be for 10mins at a time. She loves it so much.. but it's not as comfy as inward facing. In the hugabub there is a position called koala cuddle, where the baby is facing you, but there arms and shoulders are out... Olivia loves this cause she can still look around easily, but it is better for my back.

Gosh, it is going to be another hot one today!

Olivia has been sooo sleepy this morning! She has already had 2 naps since she woke at 7! Last night was fantastic too - she slept from 8 til 5:30 then til 7! I always feel reallly guilty posting good sleep reports though... :hugs: sorry kimba!! Also, the sleep cues I have been working on are really working! It now only takes about 2 mins (max 10mins) to get Olivia to sleep! Woohoo!

Bec - you have a clever little chicken there! I try to get Olivia to sit, but she kind of folds over onto herself and eats her toes :laughing: mmmm tasty!

I suppose I better go hang washing on the line before it gets too hot! Hope y'all have a good day!

beck75
05-02-2007, 09:41
Hi All

Wow all these teachers! My mum was a teacher and used to get stressed at time but the holidays and working hours were great (esp compared to what I was doing before having Kayley) - I have actually tossed up the idea of doing a 1 yr course to do secondary teaching but no time for it at the moment! We are looking at moving over the next 12 months so god knows what I will be doing for a job - they dont have the same quantity of positions in Adelaide as they do here.

Mary - Kayley had a really strong head from day one and I only have had to support it when she is asleep for a long time now - thats why I wasnt to concerned about turning her around - they do bounce around a bit when you walk though so if you ar enot sure maybe leave it a bit longer.

Kimba - I know what you mean about the weight - the baby bjorn definately gets heavy before too long!

Bec - congrats on the sitting! It is amazing what they can do from one week to another!

Sare, Mary - I have always been a summer girl but this year it is a pain when it is hot because I have to keep Kayley cool so I might enjoy winter more this year (although I think it is going to be a wet one).

Sal - I also dont like leaving the house messy but have been a bit more relaxed since having Kayley as sometimes it is hard to keep up. Broke my vacuum so have to go out and buy a new one so I have an excuse at the moment!

Well Miss Kayley who should be asleep has been gurgling through the monitor for about 5 minutes now! I should go and check on the bugger - at least she is happy,she was getting a bit of reflux again this morning which was distressing her. Now she is talking to something (she stares at a rug toy with animals drawn on it and smiles all the time so I have hung it on the side of the cot so that is probably it).

All the best.

m_jelly
05-02-2007, 09:48
Wow Bec, sitting up on her own? Abbey can only do monkey sitting - leaning forward onto her hands, until she either gets tired and falls or distracted and reaches for something, forgetting its her hands holding her up, and over she goes! We mostly practice on the bed so I let her topple. It makes it more fun for me.

Abbey was sleeping til morning but is now back to fidget town. Up at 1, 3 and 5 again. This morning I was trying desperately to get more sleep so I gave her titty and kinda dozed off again. I woke up to a choking sputtery sound - she had dropped the nipple and it was spraying all over her face. So much for her going back to sleep!

Jet - yay boobies! Welcome to the boobie fan club!

re teaching - I started a dip teaching but work got busy and i had to put it aside. I think i will start it again 2nd semester this year if they will let me. Still havent decided whether I want to do primary or secondary (english & IT) or whether I would be good at it. I just dont want to get yet another degree in something I dont want to work in. Anyone got a crystal ball?

Re the milestones - I AM A BAD MOTHER. I knew at the time when she did all these great things, and I meant to write them in her unopened baby book, and thought I would remember. I don't. I did boast to all my friends on msn tho, so i think i will have to go through my msg history to find out the dates and then match it up with abbey's age. The reason I havent written in her baby book as i go is that I have horrible handwriting and I want it to be pretty. So its empty and Ive forgotten. How sad is that??

Flower159
05-02-2007, 10:25
Good morning ladies. How are we all today? It's still cool here just now so it's bliss, below 20 and it's 9 oclock. Ah this is the life.

Right, I think it was Michelle that asked an age ago who broke her baby - well, who broke mine now? I think we have a serial baby breaker. My little darling Logan is now a monster from hell and I want my old Logan back. He wants the boob, he doesn't want the boob, he wants the bottle, he doesn't want the bottle. This morning went on boob for two minutes and then all hell broke loose and he cried for 1.5 hours non stop. Wouldn't take boob or bottle. Eventually got him to take a bottle, don't know what I did diffirent, but eventually he took it and he's now sleeping. :smiliedance: Probably not for long :gloomy: But anyway, I'm at my wits end and I want a switch so that I can turn him off. I'm using Avent bottles just now with pigeon teats, but I'm off to the shops when he wakes up to get the back to nature bottles. He drinks from the teats OK when he wants, so I'm not sure changing will help, but I'm gonna give it a go! All in all he has winged all day long for three days and I'm fed up with the noise, who's the bad mother now??!? :laughing: It's me!!!!!!

Ach well, I'll get there. At least DDs are at school today so I don't have to put up with them asking me to make him quiet - they have no concept that that doesn't work or we'd all be happy. "baby, please be quiet now" and they would. Ah, if only!

Kimba, have you tried giving Jet whisky? A wee dram might knock him out for a while?!! I'm looking at the state I'm in after three days and I'm wondering how on earth your still positive after Jets constant problems. You are a trouper. Don't worry about DH, it's amazing how well they cope when they have to - it's just easy for them when we're around to look at us all pathetic and know that we'll take over.

Michelle, haha about the baby book!! I've got three that have wee bits filled in, and then loads of blank pages!! All the spaces for photo's are just waiting to be filled, maybe I'll get around to doing it for their 18th!!

Pam - well done on the sleep cue's - I'm just trying everything i know until something works!! Maybe one day I'll be able to get Logan settled in 10 mins max ..... I can dream!!

Bec - well done on the long sleeps, hope Ella keeps it up for mummy when mummy has to get up for work. I always smile at your picture, it looks like Ella is a wee menace!!

A big Hello to all those I've missed, but if I don't get on to the housework now then it'll not get done ..... crime of the century!!

Hope you are all well and not too hot.
Take care all. Marion.xx

Gumby
05-02-2007, 11:10
Morning all. Sorry I havent been in much latley. I finally got rid of all my house guests yesterday morning and am FREE AT LAST. It is nice to be able to do what I want now.

Holly is enjoying her kindy and everyday comes homeand tells me it was "GREAT"
Charlotte misses her big sister but today is at her dads for the day so its just me and the (very cranky, not sleeping) boy.

I seen the doc the other day and he diagnosed me with PND. I dont think I have pnd because most of my stress and not coping was because of unwanted house guests and being run down. I am not happy with the title of "PND" as I think it is just general depression.
Anywho so I am on happy pills and even though they shouldnt have kicked in yet, I a feeling calm and placid in most situations.
My wedding has been postponed til august now beause we have car rego due a week before our origional wedding date in march.

And and, Once I am feeling more in control I am going to be weened off the tabs and hoping for a :bfp: by the end of this year :D :smiliedance:

Ok well my boy wont go to sleep so I better see to him. Take care all...

P.S. All the new avatar pics are just gorgeous. Gee our kids are getting big.

ikis84
05-02-2007, 12:16
Marion - I just had a thought - but could he be reacting to something in the formula? Maybe it is giving him a sore tummy?? Perhaps try a different formula, or just breastmilk for a few days and see if he settles down again... poor little bubba and poor mummy!!

Rian - great to hear that your houseguests are gone, and that you are feeling calmer and happier now... hopefully things keep getting better for you hun!



Olivia slept until 12:30!! I can't believe it!

beck75
05-02-2007, 12:19
AAArrrgghh!! Just took an hour of screaming to get Kayley to sleep - ended up having to resort to the boob - just when you think things are going OK then slam....back down to step one - oh well.

LOL on the baby book!! I just ordered one on the internet so don't even have one yet!! I had to go through all Kayleys pictures (of what I have about 2 million) to work out when she did a lot of the things for the first time - some I reemember but others are a bit fuzzy - I am very impressed with those who actually had the dates written down!

Going to be a stinker here today but it is OK with the house closed up at the moment - will have to put the a/c on before too long though.

Well I am going to get some lunch while I have a chance!

M~T~J~M
05-02-2007, 13:53
Hi everyone!!
I have been MIA for too long!! Have had DH home since just after Christmas - he has just started a new job last Thursday. Thank god, I was starting to get mental with him here, messing up my wonderful routine and introducing 'bad habits' to the kids, lol!!He has also applied for a job in a Coal mine in QLD which we are waiting to hear about. If he gets it, we will all be making the big move from Vic up to Mackay. Hopefully we will hear something this week.

Sounds as though most of you are doing well.

Re: The baby book - I have one for each of our boys. DS#1's is pretty much up to date. DS#2's - well, I have to think back really hard to come up with something to write in the '3 months old' section, lol!! And, DS#3 - his book hasn't been written in at all. Note to self - must get on to filling in baby books!

Re: Breastpads - With my first, I had to wear them the whole time I fed him (6 months). With DS#2, I never had to wear them at all in the 9 months I fed him. This time, I have had to use them again, not as often, and not all the time (maybe once a week, if that).

Re: TTC - Have been in discussions with DH about trying for number 4, and have pretty much decided that we will try sooner rather than later (as was first planned). I will continue to feed DS#3 until he's about 6 - 8 months old, then begin to chart, etc, in attempt to try for a little girl this time around. Will try our hardest anyway. So, Rian....we may just be there with you TTC by mid - late this year!! All just a bit too exciting!

Sal - Congrats on your wedding! I can understand your feelings of your day only too well!! We got married when DS#2 was 11 months old. We had the most perfect day, it really was hard to describe it in words. So happy for you all!!

Rian - Great to hear that Holly is loving Kinder. Just a quick Question - When is she turning 6? I have a problem at the moment as DS#1 is just about to turn 4, but is only about to start # yr old Kinder. It's only for 1/2 day once a week, and he is needing more stimulation than that. Was thinking about asking to put him into 4 yr old if there's room. Then that would mean he would start school at 5yrs.

Pam - Is the 'Koala Cuddle' demonstrated on their DVD? Must watch it again to refresh my memory.

Bec - WOW! Congrats on the sitting up!! Next it will be the crawling, lol!! You sure won't know yourself then, lol

My little munchkin is doing well. He's having 3 to 4 breastfeeds a day, and 1 during the night (about 3.30am). He's sleeping from about 6pm - 9.30pm, quick feed, straight back down till about 3.30am - 4.30am, quick feed, back down again till 7.30am - 9.00am. Feeds, then back down by about 9.30am - 10.30am till about 12.00pm. Feeds at lunchtime, then back down again for about 2 hrs, then up, play, bath, then tea, and down again. I can't complain really!! He is really trying to roll over, should happen by the weekend I think :fingerscrossed: He is such a little porker though, He may be too heavy for himself, lol!! I have having him weighed, measured, etc, on thursday morning, then I will enter our new 'growing thread' (Thanks Kimba!!) and insert all of his details!


Must be off, DS#2 has risen from his sleep.

Jeffy
05-02-2007, 15:34
OK, so today was Sam's first day at creche. He had his 4 month shots at 0900, so I took him to creche and only left him for 3 hours to see how he would go. I went home and had a little cry :crying: The girls said he was very good. I stayed to put him to bed and it only took 10 minutes or so. When I got back, they told me he had been flirting with all of them. He was screaming (due for another nap) and as soon as I saw him, he stopped and grinned. It made my heart melt! The nurse today told me Sam is huge and so did the girls at the creche. He is 8.25kg and 67 cm loooong. I cannot believe he is into 0's already. Time for me to buy new booties as well!

Kimba/MT&J's mum - I am *hoping* your stats will be similiar to Sam's and I won't have the only chubby monkey :D

Kimba - How on earth are you still so happy and rational? I would be a complete mess by now. :yelclap: to you, mummy!

beck/m_jelly - I am in the same boat; I didn't write anything down. I actually don't know where the last 4 months have gone!

rian - Sounds like things are looking up a bit for you. Glad to have you back.

marion - Someone definitely broke my baby today. He has only had 3 bottles and only 100ml each time

Sorry no more personals; must go and tidy up this house. We had guests for tea last night and they didn't leave until 11 pm :banghead:

~Kimba~
05-02-2007, 16:17
:smiliedance: Jet and I just had a 3.5 hour nap :smiliedance:

I feel like a new woman. I wish he'd do this every day, it'd sure help to make up for the nights!

How am I still happy and rational? Because my baby smiles at me like THIS (http://flickr.com/photos/kimbaleo/379978936/) and THIS (http://flickr.com/photos/kimbaleo/379978752/) every time he sees me. What else can I do?

I was SO going to keep my baby book updated but of course I didn't. Lucky I have Jet's blue book with things written down and I also have lots of digital photos of things that Jet's done which I can grab the dates off! I've been writing a letter to him every month of what he's been up to as well, I'll be using them in a scrapbook I'm making of his first years, although I was a bit slack this month coz he's had me so worn out!

TIP: Even if you sit down and make a quick list of everything cute that you love about them right now, it will help for baby book updating when you get a chance.

Jen - oh you poor mumma :hugs: I would have cried too, and certainly will, when it's Jet's turn to be left with a carer. Sounds like Sam did really well at creche though considering he'd had his shots too! I bet he's wanting lots of cuddles tonight. I think Jet will be up there with Sam in hugeness, he's into some 0's already (what happened to 00, he barely got to wear them!)

MT & J's Mum - welcome back! great to hear how you and your little family are doing. I was just saying to DH the other day that he should get work in the mines up north or out west, so I can stay home and have more babies :laughing: and Mackay is somewhere we'd both like to live! Good luck TTC a girl, we're going to start TTC #2 at the end of this year too.

beck - might be worth doing the teaching course if you're thinking of moving, at least it's a very portable job! Hope that Kayley has settled down a bit this arvo.

Pam - yay on Olivia's nap! Jet slept from 1 till 3.20 in his cot then had a feed in bed with me and went back to sleep till 4.30 - I couldnt' believe it either! Good babies LOL.

Rian - glad that Holly loves school. Don't worry about the labels - whatever it takes to get you back to your happy self again, that's all that matters! I was on meds for depression in 2005 and weaned off them a month before I decided to TTC and that's when Jet came along.

Marion - sorry Logan is giving you a bit of grief! I'm with Pam, have you tried a different formula maybe? It could be colic or a reaction to the new 'food'?

OK Mr Man is calling for Mummy and how can I deny him after such a good sleep? Maybe it's a sign of a good night to come. I WISH!

Gumby
05-02-2007, 16:41
Hi everyone!!
I have been MIA for too long!! Have had DH home since just after Christmas - he has just started a new job last Thursday. Thank god, I was starting to get mental with him here, messing up my wonderful routine and introducing 'bad habits' to the kids, lol!!He has also applied for a job in a Coal mine in QLD which we are waiting to hear about. If he gets it, we will all be making the big move from Vic up to Mackay. Hopefully we will hear something this week.

Sounds as though most of you are doing well.

Re: TTC - Have been in discussions with DH about trying for number 4, and have pretty much decided that we will try sooner rather than later (as was first planned). I will continue to feed DS#3 until he's about 6 - 8 months old, then begin to chart, etc, in attempt to try for a little girl this time around. Will try our hardest anyway. So, Rian....we may just be there with you TTC by mid - late this year!! All just a bit too exciting!


Rian - Great to hear that Holly is loving Kinder. Just a quick Question - When is she turning 6? I have a problem at the moment as DS#1 is just about to turn 4, but is only about to start # yr old Kinder. It's only for 1/2 day once a week, and he is needing more stimulation than that. Was thinking about asking to put him into 4 yr old if there's room. Then that would mean he would start school at 5yrs.






GLAD TO HEAR DP IS HOME (FOR NOW) LOL. AND WELCOME BACK.
WE MAY BE IN "DUE IN" THREADS AGAIN NEXT YEAR. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THIS WILL BE OUR #4 TOO.
AS FOR HOLLY AND SCHOOL, SHE IS 6 IN JULY. SHE COULD HAVE GONE TO SCHOOL LAST YEAR BUT SHE WAS BORN LATE JULY AND THE CUT OFF POINT WAS MID JULY SO WE MISSED THE CUT OFF POINT.
YOU SEEMS TO HAVE A GOOD ROUTINE WITH YOUR LITTLE MAN. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.


OK, so today was Sam's first day at creche. He had his 4 month shots at 0900, so I took him to creche and only left him for 3 hours to see how he would go. I went home and had a little cry :crying: The girls said he was very good. I stayed to put him to bed and it only took 10 minutes or so. When I got back, they told me he had been flirting with all of them. He was screaming (due for another nap) and as soon as I saw him, he stopped and grinned. It made my heart melt! The nurse today told me Sam is huge and so did the girls at the creche. He is 8.25kg and 67 cm loooong. I cannot believe he is into 0's already. Time for me to buy new booties as well!

rian - Sounds like things are looking up a bit for you. Glad to have you back.



YOU HAVE A BIG BOY ON YOUR HANDS. I WILL HAVE JAMES' 4 MONTH STATS THIS FRIDAY. I CANT WAIT TO COMPARE WITH EVERYONE.

THANKS FOR THE WELCOME BACK.



:smiliedance: Jet and I just had a 3.5 hour nap :smiliedance:

I feel like a new woman. I wish he'd do this every day, it'd sure help to make up for the nights!

How am I still happy and rational? Because my baby smiles at me like THIS (http://flickr.com/photos/kimbaleo/379978936/) and THIS (http://flickr.com/photos/kimbaleo/379978752/) every time he sees me. What else can I do?

Rian - glad that Holly loves school. Don't worry about the labels - whatever it takes to get you back to your happy self again, that's all that matters! I was on meds for depression in 2005 and weaned off them a month before I decided to TTC and that's when Jet came along.


THEM PICS ARE GORGEOUS. I ALWAYS GO IN AND CHECK FOR UPDATED PICS. Q'S? HOW DO YOU KEEP HIS BUM LOOKING SLIM IN CLOTH NAPPIES. JAMES ALWAYS LOOKS LIKE A LARD ***.. HEHE


OK SO THATS ALL FROM ME FOR NOW. JAMES HAS HIS 4 MONTH NEEDLES ON FRIDAY AND I AM GETTING HIM WEIGHED AND EVERYTHING. IT WILL BE GREAT TO SEE HOW MUCH HE HAS GROWN :D

sare
05-02-2007, 17:48
Hi all,

We had a great lovely day today shopping and I got everything I needed to plus a few extras ;)

Rian - Glad things have settled for you. We'll be joining you ttc later this year. We basically decided once my period returns we're going to start ttc a little boy...it takes all the spontaneity away, but we'd like to give it a go because #3 will definitely be our last.

Kimba - :smiliedance: on Jet sleeping so well this afternoon. I hope he continues to do it for you. I'm up to date on Lara's scrapbook, but I haven't done any scrapbooking for her yet... I feel bad because Eloise's first year was always up to date.

Jen - :hugs: for you. Glad Sam did so well though, but it must have been nice to see him so happy when he saw you.

Sorry, got to dash, Lara's squawking. Be back later.

lucy72
05-02-2007, 19:53
Good evening everyone!

Well the cellar tea went well. Had a good time, although it was the first time I had cried leaving Jordan ever!! So Jen I am with you at the moment. Don't know what it was but I coiuld not stop. Had him weighed last week Jen for his 4 month appointment and Jordan is now..... 9.3kgs and 70cms long.... :eek: Funny thing is is that he doesn't seem that big against other bubs in my mothers group. Ah well....

Sare, love getting extras when shopping!!!

Kimba, :smiliedance: on the 3.5 hour nap for you and Jet. Well done to both of you!!! We are glad that you put your head down and got some much needed sleep - only 496.5 hours to make up now!!! :laughing:

M,T & J's MUM, welcome back! My DH is a rigger and always talking about going into the mines for a while to get some money behind us and eat into the mortgage... Hasn't mentioned it for a while....

Well had better log off - hello to everyone else out there and hope you are having a great day!!!

Lucy

~Kristin~
05-02-2007, 20:25
Hi everyone, just a quick note as I'm a bit emotional tonight...

Isabella has had a rough couple of days after her needles, and has been sooking heaps, and wanting cuddles while sleeping during the day, every time I try to put her down she gets sooooooo upset :crying: . To top it off I have a gastro bug :( .

Geez, last month a cold, now this, and once again, because I'm BF I can't take anything.

I heard some very sad news today, my best friend who has been TTC for some time and just went through her 1st IVF cycle got a BFN (BubHub Bump-to-be). Its so sad, they are beautiful people and deserve the gift of a child. Its really hard for me to talk to her sometimes about it all as I know she desperately wants a baby and I fell preg with Isabella so easily.

I sat down with my beautiful baby girl in my arms this arvo and it really hit home just how blessed and lucky DP and I are to have our Isabella. I don't care how many sleepness nights, or hard days we have, I'll happily take them all!

SalTheGal
05-02-2007, 21:30
Hi everyone,

One last post before we head off…….decided today that we would leave the laptop at home, don’t know how I am going to cope without bubhub for nearly 2weeks- I will hopefully find an internet café at some stage!!!

Kimba- so glad to hear you are having some wins with Jet, yay for the boobies, and :smiliedance: for your sleeps, keep it up little man. I hope to hear some very positive stories when I get back!! Gorgeous photos BTW- I personally think Jet is the cutest oct bub (though Nedd’s dimples do melt my heart, but that’s cause I’m biast!!)

Sare- Good luck with TT Eloise over the next week or so, hopefully it all goes smoothly for you. Lol at Nedd/jet/Jordan dilemma for Lara…. We will have to organise that meet up when I get back and see how much they like each other!!

Sue and Di- never know I might just manage to catch up with you on the coast. Hope your little men are going well, would love for our little fellas to meet each other!

Mary- I love to hear what you have been up to, you all seem so relaxed off to get coffees etc, it is great to meet other people who don’t let a baby stop their social lives. I have some friends who let their bubs rule their lives and hardly ever go out because of it, makes me so frustrated!!

Bec- we just bought a new vacuum after much whinging to DH, we got a dyson and I love it sooooo much! I actually enjoy vacujming these days!! Yay for Kayley- clever girl sitting up on her own.

Marion- I hope when I get back I hear that Logan is being a good boy again and stops giving you grief with his feeding. I agree that maybe it could be the formula?

Rian- You sound better already……..hope everything keeps improving, I found I felt so much calmer as soon as I started on my happy pills- just knowing I was doing something made me feel better


MTJ mum- :laughing: at DH going back to work, seriously sometimes they are like big kids aren’t they- love em to death, but enough is enough sometimes!!!

Jen- :hugs: for sending Sam to his first day of crèche- won’t be long and we will be waving our little mnchkins off to school for the frirst time. I start Nedd in day care as soon as we get back, this week is my last week with him, as next week is work conference then its back to work for me.

Lucy- glad you had a fun cellar tea, isn’t it funny how we miss our little men even if only a few hours apart. Ah love of a child is bliss….

Kristin- hugs, I know exactly how you feel, one of my best friends is also going through IVF at the moment……she just had her first cycle- and started bleeding at my wedding. It was the only lowlight of the day, she left in tears and I felt so hopeless:crying: . When I fell pregnant she really struggled with it cause Nedd was an “accident”, but I appreciate our luck every single day.

To anyone else I have missed (Michelle, Mary-anne, Bec, Kristin, Jenny etc), hope all your bubbies are angels whilst I am away!!

Just wondered- we know who the teachers are- what is everyone else profession? We all talk bout work etc but I don’t think I have caught what everyone actually does?

I am a pharmaceuticals sales rep, visiting GP’s and hospitals (promoting drugs!!). Great job to return to as very flexible hours: just have to get the sales results to be accountable. And work lots from home etc.

Nedd is soooo close to rolling from his back to tummy- he keeps going ¾ of the way and we get all excited, then he decides he is just teasing us and rolls back again……. He has the tummy to back roll down pat now.

Q’s: We are really struggling to get Nedds night time routine happening. The “idea” is BF @ 7pm, then bath, and bed @ about 8-8.30, then rollover feed from bottle @ 9.30 (and the plan was to keep pushing this later to end up giving it to him bout 10.30). The problem we are hitting is that he is REFUSING to settle before he has that bottle. It is like he knows he is going to get it so he is absolutely unconsolable until we give in and give it to him, thus it has gone from 9.30 into 9pm (rather than getting later) I have tried giving him boob @ 8pm but cause I have nothing to give him he is not interested.

So any suggestions? Maybe give him bottle at 8pm and 10pm? Or perservere…….. we have tried to settle him for the last three nights for over an hour with no success till he gets that bottle.

Ok, well I am off to enjoy the sun, sand, surf, etc etc (I am reluctant to sign off- can you tell I am addicted to you guys!!!!)

Take care everyone!

brideofjabba
05-02-2007, 22:56
Hi everyone!

There are so many posts i don't have the time to do personals.

Someone mentioned breastpads...i still wear them. I leak on the opposite side that i am feeding off and during the night too. Nicholas sleeps through so i'm pretty full by morning!
As for our routine - he has his bath at 5.15pm and then a feed. Despite the fact that he's tired he doesn't usually go down to bed until 9-9.30pm. But then he usually sleeps until about 5am, sometimes 6. Then he goes back down for a couple of more hours. This morning he didn't wake up unil 10.40!!!! I kept checking him to make sure he was breathing! But he woke up happy as larry.
I feed him as soon as he wakes up then 1.5 hours later i give him another feed then he goes off to sleep again for 2-3 hours. I'm trying to get him to go down to bed at 7pm but no such luck.

I've started on Zoloft and i still feel like i've been hit with a truck. Nic seems to be ok but vomiting a little this week(which he never does anymore!). I think its the meds. They make me nausious as well. blah!

I'll be interested to see what he weighs at his 4mth checkup. He's into size 0 aswell!

Take care everyone!

lucy72
06-02-2007, 05:25
Good morning all,

DH just left for wor and I needed a bite to eat so decided to pop on for a bit and then head back for a nap!

Andrea, great to see you back again. October bubs must be the month for big bubs!!!

Sal, have a fantastic time on your honeymoon. Don't think about us too much - you should be thinking of your DH!!! LOL.

Kristin, I think one of the hardest things is when some one is TTC and it doesn't happen for them. I was one of those people. We were actually on our last month before we were going to seek some help. I actually don't talk to our best man and his wife anymore as they were so insensitive towards me when she fell pregnant at the drop of a hat. Every day I hug Jordan and thank whoever is upstairs for my little miracle. Big hugs for your friend and yours too Sal.

Occupations, well I work in the travel industry. I work in wholesale travel. You know when you go to a travel agent and want a holiday to say Disneyland and they ring someone for a price - well I work for those people they ring. I had a pretty stressful job managing 3 different departments and most of the girls were young singles, who thought they had the problems of the world. Every Monday morning I felt like a social worker!!! I have done most of the travelling I want to do so really not fussed if I go back there or not. My work was located near Sydney Airport and I live over the other side of Sydney so the drive is at least an hour each direction.

Sal, as for night time routine. Jordan is going through a "stage at the moment" as well and I am trying to figure out what. Usually he has a feed about 9ish after his 5ish feed, but last night refused. I thought he would wake up hungry today but is still asleep from 9 last night!! I can't work it out. Our routine is a bottle about 5ish when Dad gets home from work, I get tea ready and we eat, Dad and Jordan have a shower together or Dad gives him a bath, we play for a bit, Dad gives him a bottle at 9ish and he falls asleep. We then put him to bed and he sleeps through to morning. Kev then puts him in bed with me at 5 when he leaves for work. He usually wakes up about 7 for a feed then goes back to sleep. In saying that, not all of this is happening at the moment as he has other ideas!

Well going to fly and jump back into bed to try to get some more shut eye! Have my Mum coming over today to mind Jordan while I run around and clean the house.

Have a good day all!
Lucy

Becbabe
06-02-2007, 08:24
grr- bubhub/work computer won't let me paste in my big post - I'll have to do it from home at lunchtime!

bye til then!

~Kimba~
06-02-2007, 09:32
Morning!

Nothing exciting to report sleepwise - he woke at 12, 2, 4.40 and then wouldn't go back to sleep so I left him cooing in his cot till 5.50 (amazing he lasted that long without crying! wish he'd settled himself to sleep though) Then brought him to bed with me for a feed and slept till 8. At least he slept again once he was in bed with me, so I didn't have to get up early YAY

Re: occupations. I'm teacher-trained but have never worked as a teacher. I'm currently a training manager in the telco industry, was previously customer service manager. Loving the training work, good money, but hating the 45 hours a week cut-throat office-politics corporate cr@p. I'd rather get less money for less stress and more family-friendly working hours.

Re: night time routine, LOL do you really want to know Jet's since it doesn't work to see him through the night? :laughing: If he's had an afternoon nap it's usually BF around 6.30 if he wants it (usually doesn't, as I'm pretty empty by then), Losec and bath around 6.30 to 7, full bottle feed and cuddle to sleep and in bed by 7.30 or 8. He's like Nedd, needs the bottle to settle so we give it to him then.

Lately he's been waking after 40min and needs resettling, but I think that's because it's still light and because it's so hot...? I don't mind as it gives me a chance to give him another topup/ rollover feed, trying to stretch that first block of sleep out longer. Not really working though! LOL. I don't do a rollover/ topup at 10 because I'm usually in bed myself trying to make the most of the first few hours he's down, he's up again at 11 or 12 anyway.

Sal - The only thing I could suggest for Nedd is to give him the full bottle at bedtime since he wants it then (you don't know how much he's getting from the BF, maybe he's hungry?) and then another smaller one as a rollover feed later and see how that works? Anyway have a great honeymoon! We'll miss you! :hugs: Even with my bias I don't really think Jet's any cuter than any of the other October bubs, they're all gorgeous! But thank you for the compliment :D

Lucy - at least Jordan's 'stage' still involves sleeping through, what a good boy, you don't know how lucky you are LOL.

Andrea - Another big boy! These October lads are thumpers aren't they LOL. The Zoloft will probably make you feel like cr@p for a couple of weeks (it did for me - nauseous too) then you'll feel normal again. Hope Nic's vomiting settles down.

Kristin - sorry you're sick again you're having a rough trot aren't you! It is hard when you have friends who are TTC, I have a friend who's been trying for ages and had a MC already, it was so hard for me to see her trying to be happy for us when I announced my pregnancy after only TTC for a couple of months. But you're so right, our babies are a blessing no matter how tired or frustrated we get, I remind myself of that all the time otherwise I don't think I'd cope with the exhaustion!

Sare - I have all my scrapbooking supplies sitting here and the first few layouts for Jet's scrapbook all planned in my head, but no time to do them! I suppose if I spent less time on BubHub...!! LOL.

Rian - glad you are posting more often again we've missed you :hugs: Re: slim butts in cloth - the BBH are pretty trim on Jet (that's what he's wearing in the Oz Day photos) but I have to confess he's wearing a 'sposie in the photos from yesterday morning - I was testing out using a sposie overnight to see if it made a difference to his waking. Not really, so it's back to cloth at night again!

OK I have to go pick up some flowers I ordered for one of our Mums in Mother's Group who got chickenpox and now her 17 week old bubba girl has it too. Poor things. They need some cheering up!

m_jelly
06-02-2007, 09:57
Morning all my ladies and babies

Discovered just how deeply a baby can sleep last night. Abbey was fussing in her sleep. It wasnt a waking up fussing, it was a somethings bothering fuss, eg dream, breeze etc. While I was settling her the second time I saw a spider climbing up the inside of her mozzie net - it had been a big huntsman spider waking her up i think, crawling over her?! So i scooped her up, grabbed the bug spray and attacked. Course then i had to change her bedding to non toxic stuff, her net and wipe down her cot, all of which involved much moving around of the cot on the hardwood floor (noisy), clanging of mattress and bright lights. I had put Abbey on my bed and she slept through the whole thing, even me picking her up and tucking her back in her own bed. She can sleep through that, but heaven forbid I flush the toilet during her nap!

I started Abbey's baby look yesterday. I lied about some dates. Don't tell her.

I also fed her a couple spoons of Apple & Mango puree last night. She was a bit suss at the tartness to start with, but soon started grabbing the spoon and shoving it her mouth greedily. Then she got really mad when the yummy stuff went away! She threw a gimme more tanty!

Kimba - have to say I wouldnt mind waking up to that cheerful smile either. Abbey wakes me up by talking to me, most likley trying to convince me what fun it would be if i changed her nappy.

Abbey is into a fair amount of 0 clothes too. Depends on where they need to fit of course. She can wear BigW 00s so long as they dont have sleeves or legs for example. Why do the labels say 00 is for 3-6 months and 0 is for 6-12 months if the norm is so very very different?

Jeffy
06-02-2007, 10:00
Good morning! We took Sam to creche this morning and I stayed 30 minutes as I was really worried about him. I stayed to settle him to sleep and came home and cried (again). I was almost going to pull him out and place him in Family Daycare because all these babies were crying and there weren't enough cuddles to go around. Instead, I did a surprise "I forgot something" visit only to find him being cuddled by one of the carers and happy as larry. Turns out they were ALL due for a nap. SO, I'm feeling very relieved and more confident about the centre.

Re: work - I work for a large federal government department. My title is Executive Officer but I really just fix things people have stuffed up and work on training and procedures relating to personnel stuff. I got promoted just after commening leave because I knew I'd win it and it meant more money so that I could go part-time. Not in love with the job but it pays really well and I don't hate it! :rolleyes: My emplyer is very supportive of part-timers, so I really can't complain.

Kimba - I honestly don't think Jet is ever going to cooperate with you, my love! At least he is a happy kid (and extremely cute)

Becbabe - I can't post here from work either. Sux, hey?!

Crud - gotta go as my environmentally light globes and showerhead are being installed for FREEEEEE!

beck75
06-02-2007, 10:44
Hi All

Well I have to start with wow - how many big babies do we have out there!! Kayley is in mainly 00's but the occassional 000 and 0 as well. Seems she has a big waist hence quite often 0 pants!!

Kayley is still behaving badly when getting to sleep the bugger - it is so frustrating when you dont know why it is different to before (a bit like stupid golf)! So last night she was down at 9pm and finally went to sleep at 10.30 after a feed. This morning she would only feed a little bit and again as soon as gone down jhust screamed and screamed and I couldnt stop her so we went for another feed - I hope this doesnt become a habit!

Well jobs, I was an Operations and Finance Manager at a Private Bank, looking after the processing team, reception and relief staff in our Victorian office (probably good training for looking after children a lot of the time). Good money - lots of hours! I only plan to go back part time and cannot do this job part time so I dont know what is in store for me when I return - possibly project work or something. I used to be a Private Banker and didnt like it much (too much sales pressure these days) so dont want to do that really - might look at mobile lending or something when I move interstate because it appears to be a bit more flexible. I do love to manage people but with that brings lots of hours so might leave that alone until Kayley is a bit older.

I know how hard it is with the conception thing. My oldest sister tried everything short of IVF (didnt want the emotional rollercoaster that accompanied it let alone the cost) and was never able to conceive. The next one down has one son which she conceived with no problems. My third sister had a stillborn (died in utero at 8.5 months) - she couldnt get preggers again until IVF which she had twins. I ended up conceiving on my second cycle of Chlomid. We may have a second one day but not putting our hopes too highly as we know that it is very possible we will have troubles.

Sal - have a great time and we will all have to catch up sometime on your return.

Lucy - lol about leaving your bubba alone - I havent really gone anywhere apart from the shops and havent yet missed a feed so havent got there yet. Probably should get my butt out sometime though I think although it would be hard I probably need to give myself a minny break at some point.

Well Kayley will be up in a minny so sorry no more personals but I wish you all the best

suemp
06-02-2007, 11:02
wow yous are all so smart. my job was wiping bums in a nursing home lol. loved some of it but the hours are terrible. either real early start or late finnish

dp vent. he is an *******. not once has he got kane up at night for a feed and kane is ff. this morning after bout 3 hours sleep (just couldnt sleep) kane woke up at 5 so like always i got up to him feed him let him play etc etc. come 6 kane got grizzly after nursing him for 30 mins trying to soothe him i took him into dp who was in bed and said you deal with it ive gotto get ready and get jake ready for school, pack bag do lunches do bottles etc. 10 mins later i heard dp yelling at kane to focken shut up so i got him and said dont bother. he isnt workin much at moment and still carries on like he needs his sleep
grrrrr

kane rolled this morning. does it count that it was off a cushion lol

gotto go house work to do
see y'all

Jeffy
06-02-2007, 12:44
OMG, Sue! :eek: :hugs:

Your DP needs a swift kick up the bum! He shouldn't be yelling at poor little Kane. That will just make things worse! And you need sleep too - my DH has to help and it is not negotiable. I hope you can work this one out.

Well; time to pick up Sam from creche. I am very nervous thinking he will be left screaming or something....

Jeffy
06-02-2007, 13:29
Creche fixed my 'broken' baby. He loves it! So many new toys to play with and things/people to look at. I turned up and he was sitting propped with a boomerang pillow playing with some musical toys hanging over him. I went to pick him up and he yelled at me! Apparently they are having no trouble with getting him to sleep and eat. I am very, very relieved. Just got home and it took me literally 2 minutes to get him to sleep.:D

beck75
06-02-2007, 13:43
Jeffy sounds great - wish I had the same. My baby is severely broken today (and yesterday) - she will not go to sleep and it ends up with both of us in tears - nothing will settle her except for a boob (although she is spittin gthat out half the time again too).

Just called my DH and said I'm not cooking and he can bring home KFC for tea.

I feel like I have really bad PMT or something at the moment - I just hope she sleeps for a bit to give me a break (and let me get lunch).

Actually FIL rocked her to sleep on his shoulder walking around on Sunday and she has been a sh*t since then - this used to be the only way she would go to sleep - I hope it hasnt undone all my hard work as she is getting too heavy for me to do that all the time now.

Sorry for my vent....I remember posting a week ago about having an angel baby - I think I shouldnt have said anything!!

~Kimba~
06-02-2007, 14:57
Creche fixed my 'broken' baby. Just got home and it took me literally 2 minutes to get him to sleep.

:yelclap: nice one!

I'm secretly hoping that if I'm not able to resolve Jet's sleep issues by the time I go back to work that the nanny/ family daycare/ childcare centre staff (whichever we end up using) is able to do the same - IE teach him to sleep. Either that or it'll be a 5 day res. stay at a family care unit to do the CC thing as he'll be 6 months by then...but that would really be my LAST resort and I really don't wanna do it :no:

Beck - sorry Kayley is giving you a hard time :hugs: she sounds just like Jet right now. I can settle him without tears at the moment (most of the time), but I have to feed him to sleep to do it, and I hadn't done that since he was 6 weeks old. I don't feel like I have any other option right now though! hoping that the NCSS techniques start working...SOON

sue - BOO to your DP and a big kick up the bum. Where do they get off thinking that they can yell at our babies!

michelle - :eek: on the spider. That's all i can say, I am severely arachnophobic and I think I would pass out if I saw one near Jet.

sare
06-02-2007, 15:01
Hi girls,

I think my baby has some cracks appearing and is on the verge of breaking. She's been so sooky today, which is not like her at all. She is waking as soon as I put her down and will not self settle. She's 3 months old today :eek: is that when all you guys started having troubles?

Guess where I took Eloise today? Gymbaroo. She loved going back there and had a ball. There were only 4 kids in the class, so even better. Lara's booked in for Thursdays.
Finally have peace and quiet, the girls have just gone to sleep, so I can do some personals while I'm listening to the Whitlams...

Beck - Good on you for giving yourself a bit of a break and getting KFC tonight. I hope Kayley settles for you soon. I needed clomid for getting pg with Eloise (and fell pg on my 2nd cycle too), but with Lara fell pg 'naturally' the 1st month of trying, so you never know your luck.

Jen - Glad things went well for Sam at childcare again today. It must be so hard leaving him, but at least he is loving it and now you do have the reassurance that the staff are really taking good care of him.

Sue - lol at your job description. I agree with Jen...dp needs a kick up the butt.

Michelle - Poor Abbey!!! At least she's too young to have a spider phobia.

Kimba - Still no better? Hopefully Jet gives you another afternoon sleep today. I was thinking about you today and your lack of sleep and I remembered that some of the mums in my mother's group had similar problems and used to leave the radio on the crackling/static noise while they slept...might be worth a go if you haven't already tried it.

Sal - Have a great honeymoon. Can't help with the routine either...we still don't have one.

Gotta go, my brother and his gf have just arrived. Hope the rest of you are all doing well. Be back again tomorrow.

ourfirstbubba
06-02-2007, 15:59
hi girls

hope you are all well...my poor bubba had her 4 month needles today...she screamed and I cried.......poor little things...she fell asleep in my arms straight away, and she has been asleep for nearly two hours now.......

Its great to see what we all do for work........I have only been a primary teacher for a year, but prior to this, worked for a big govt department- have also worked in the travel industry, adult education, recruitment.......but none of this compares to being a Mum...

well Natalia is 6kg and 61cm long....she wears 000 and some 00, depending on the brands......she seems chubbier, my doc said she is the perfect weight......but I agree, some of our October bubs are big bubs, I love the little rolls! Now that she is 4 months I am going to start giving her some Farex in the morning.....my Mum thinks I could have started earlier, probably could have but feel that she is ready now.....

mmm, baby books...I do have one and some of it is filled in, but I have not kepot exact dates of when she first smiled etc.....naughty me...I am so meticulous with everything else....will start writing dates down from now on....I do know she smiled early, rolled onto her back at about 6 weeks....and that she makes me melt everyday...:angel:

Marion- I hope that you are having a better day today with Logan...a few weeks back Natalia went through a week when she was unsettled, not eating much, waking more....but she is back to normal again......wish we knew what was going on with them, poor little things...

Jen- bless little Sam, flirting...how cute...is he ok now that he had his shots???

Kimba- hope you dont mind but I am going to steal your idea of writing a letter to Natalia every month...what a nice idea......

Kristin- I am sorry for your friends...its very hard...my SIL (hubbys sister) is 41 and has tried IVF....it did not work unfortunately...I watch her with Natalia and she is so beautiful...and she is always so nice to me and so graceful, and I know how much she hurts inside.....I would love her to have a baby of her own...why is it that people who would make amazing parents struggle sometimes? My sister and her hubby tried for 5 years with my niece...so she is a miracle bub, then with her second she fell pg and they werent trying....she is blessed with 2 gorgeous girls, they are 5 and 3....and its true, we are so so blessed....

Sal- have a great honeymoon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Andrea- hope the medication helps you.....

Lucy- bless your Mum...they are amazing arent they? My beautiful Mum still manages to come and see us everyday even with Dad in the rehab hospital..speaking of which, we took Natalia to see him yesterday as he had not seen her in a month, he nearly cried the poor bugger, he cant believe how much she has changed.......she cried when she saw him, like she did not remember him :gloomy:

Michelle- I hate spiders...poor little bub, what a cherub sleeping through it all...I am having visions of you with the spray!

Beck75- :fingerscrossed: your little Kayley sleeps oky for you tonight....

Sue- I take my hat off to you working in a nursing home....you must be very kind and patient..as for your DP, mmm, :shame:

Kimba- hope you dont have to do the CC thing, I think it would be very hard....maybe by 6 months little Jet will be sorted out...have you read Save our Sleep by Tizzie Hall??

Sare- your in-laws sound like pratts...very frustrating for you, but they are missing out on your gorgeous girls.......

well my monkey pants slept for 2 hours and is awake so off for a nice walk...be back later tonight

xo

Becbabe
06-02-2007, 16:08
Hi girls here's this morning's post - be back tomorrow to reply to todays!:D

Hi all,

7 hours… then 2… I can’t believe it…

I’m being naughty posting at work this morning as by the time I’d read all the posts this morning, Ella had decided Mummy had been at the computer long enough!

I might have misled you a bit about the sitting up… she can only do it if she’s got her hands on something (eg my legs) to hold herself up. But we were still excited! And she definitely can’t do it when tired.. then her chin just touches her heels and she just flops there (DH was trying for a repeat performance last night) I promise I’ll only talk about this stuff on the milestones thread from now on too!

Lucy I hope you are still asleep 

Re work: I work for the government in natural resource management – our organisation offers money & information to help landholders (farmers usually) plant trees, look after their waterways etc. It’s pretty rewarding when you get past the red tape **** and I have terrific colleagues. But the other three women in my family are teachers too!

Andrea we’re in the same boat re bedtime – even though Ella’s usually tired & cranky after 6, she never goes to sleep before 8.50!

Sal, I hope you’re having a lovely time, & I’m sure there are things to distract you from thinking about us too much lol.

Kristin poor you, gastro is no fun at any time! Hope you are better soon. Isnt’ it fun trying to pull the baby off the boob and run to the toilet? Also good luck to your mate who is TTC – my sister is still in the same boat, after 2 yrs they are still fiddling around trying to make her ovulate… you are right I was just thinking that last night, you just hold your baby and thank God for the incredible blessing of her.

Sare – shopping I’m so jealous – we are still adjusting to being on a single income so the best shopping we do now is the grocery shopping

Rian – hope James’s needles aren’t too traumatic! Think I’m going to have to get DP to take Ella for a weigh-in… she seems huge to us but that’s cos we remember when she was a spider monkey! Re TTC – we think we’ll be trying Dec this year. Actually from this end that looks waaay too close..

Kimba – yay for Jet having a big nap. I used to call that the “sanity sleep” when Ella would do it! (she only ever sleeps that long during the day if you’re cuddled up with her). Love your piccies, that is one gorgeous grin. Sometimes I think they have to be cute as a survival technique. Also, I used to get really mad that DP wouldn’t ever take Ella to put her down during the day, I thought he needed to learn how to settle her before he would have her all day… but in the end walking out the door and leaving them together makes it much easier, as then none of us have a choice but to cope. And he can always settle her within 10mins now! (better than me!)

Jen sounds like you both did pretty well come crèche day…and on needle day too! that must be really hard, I know it would be a lot harder than leaving baby with DP. It gets easier though, once you get back into the swing of life “outside babyland”. Don’t you hate guests who won’t leave… did you drop lots of “subtle” hints?

M,T & J’s mum – nice to see you again! I think Ella learnt to roll so she could see the TV. I’m sure when she can crawl Daddy is going to have to adjust to life without it on all day!

Beck, sorry you had a rotten sleep time – hope last night was better for you both.

Mary – glad the piccie makes you laugh, menace isn’t far wrong, we call her “mischief” a lot of the time cos she is so cheeky. I think she’s going to lead us a merry dance when she’s more mobile! Sorry Logan is “broken” ATM. Might just be a growth spurt (physical or mental?) He might be just about to do something big in terms of milestones!

diesal444
06-02-2007, 16:47
HIYA LADIES:wave:

Well let me just say I am in total awe of those ladies whom are TTC this year. As much as I want another baby that is the furthest thing of my mind. Maybe we will start in about 18-24 months.

M,T & J's mum and RIAN - even more of a salute to you going for your 4th!!!!!!. Good on you.

Kristin - we also tried for a year and the month we fell pregnant was the month that if it didnt happen we were going to Dr's to find out if either of us had a problem. It makes me so mad sometimes that the people that would make great parents are the ones who have difficulty and those on drugs and who lead terrible lifestyles can just keep having babies whom dont have a very good start in life.

Sal - I so hope you enjoy your honeymoon. I hope Nedd is a good boy for you both while your away. We will all miss you loads!!!

Andrea - I am on Zoloft and the only thing i am noticing is my increased appetite. Hope things settle down for you regarding feeling like you've been hit by a truck. After 6 weeks things should balance out my Dr told me.

Jen - So happy that Sammy is enjoying creche. It must have been heartbreaking for you. I am sure it makes you feel better knowing that he is well taken care of.

Bec - Yay for KFC. I am such a sucker for takeaway.

Sue - Men are so pathetic sometimes. I mean really, how childish swearing at a baby. I know sometimes DP looks at me like " what do I do now" when Darcy is crying. Silly me I am like you. I just say " oh give her to me". But we should really let them handle it.

Sare - I have great in laws so i cant complain but how obviously one sided they seem. Sounds like your SIL has them wrapped round her finger. :shame:

As far as a bedtime routine goes.
Darcy is normally given a bottle at about 5.30pm. Then has a good play while we make and eat dinner. Then some nappy off time whilst i get bath ready. Bath at 7pm. More play till 7.30. Another bottle at 7.30pm. In bed at 8pm. She then sleeps right through till 7am. Bottle. back to sleep at 8am till 9am.
She has done this for about 3 weeks now so i guess you could call it our routine.

I just realised that Darcy is the youngest of the babies in this thread. With Lara being only 1 day older then her. So she is the baby of our october babies :laughing: She will be 3 months on wednesday.

Re occupation: I am an Airline Service Operator for QANTAS in the catering section and I work at Melbourne airport. Basically i make up all the equipment for business and first class flights for all the airlines. Its ok work... only thing is its shift work . 3am starts mostly.

Well i have crapped on enough for today. i am going to see a movie with my mothers group tomorrow. They have a mums and bubs session every wednesday moring at our cinema. Should be fun.
Take care all.......:wave:

Flower159
06-02-2007, 17:14
Hi everyone, how are you all.

Just a quick one to let you know that the new bottles are working and Logan's started eating - he'd lost 300g and had stopped smiling, so I was getting a bit feart that there was something wrong.(mind you, he's still 8k according to my scales so he wasn't fading away!!) Anyway, since the back to nature bottles he is feeding, not great some of the time, but he's at least eating. Hopefully by tomorrow he'll be used to the bottles as I've stopped breast feeding, but still giving him expressed milk. He's getting better at every feed so :smiliedance: from me. A big thanks for all the advice, and when I get a minute I'll be back to do some personals. Hope you're all good.

Marion.xx

~Kristin~
06-02-2007, 18:31
Hello everyone - thanks for the kind words re my friend and IVF, I will pass it on. We spoke again today, and she is being really positive, but I can still hear the pain in her voice.

Occupation - I'm on maternity leave from the Qld Police Service, where I looked after the Qld office of the Aust. National Child Offender Register (ANCOR), basically I monitor paedophiles on their release from custody, liase with the interstate ANCOR, and tell police in communities any info they need to monitor sex offenders, etc. As strange as it sounds, I love my job, but now I have a bub of my own I'm sure it will be very different when I go back in July. Will be soooooooo much harder to 'switch off' and not take the crime reports on board...

Michelle - :eek: nope, I would have called DP for the spider, I'm no good with spiders or snakes.

Beck - Kayley being a little turkey still?? Hope she settles soon.

Sue - :mad: And you still refer to him as DP????? Or does the D stand for something else now, like a male appendage?????

Kimba - I'm with Sare, we used a radio not tuned in, making 'white noise' for Isabella for a while, it worked a treat!

Sal - hahahaha, we all know what you'll be doing, have fun on your honey moon, will you have the next :bfp: :laughing: .

Mary - Awwwwww Natalia and your 'melt every day' comment, too sweet!

Everyone else - hope all is well!

ourfirstbubba
06-02-2007, 21:10
hi girls

hope you are all having a nice night...I am just about to go to bed and read for a bit, but have to wait a while as we had Thai for dinner and I am FULL!!!!! my weakness is satay chicken..mmmmm......

So after Natalia woke up this afternoon , I took her for a walk to my in-laws in the Baby Bjorn, but I turned her around..she loved it...she loves looking around, bless her.......we got home just after six. I headed off to do the groceries and hubby fed bub, bathed her, played with her and she was settled and asleep by 7.30pm......he called me when I was shopping and said he discovered a game Natalia loves...with Natalia lying on her back, he bent his head onto her chest and she touched his head, then he lifted his head so that his face was right on hers...she was giggling lots he said...oh, how sweet....he is so good with her...he even read her a story....I thought she would have been unsettled because of her needles but she is fine.....

Bec- I am with you with the grocery shopping......its about the only shopping I seem to do...and of course stuff for Natalia!

diesal444- we are the same...we want at least 3 years gap b/w babies.....could not imagine having two bubs close together.....mum and bubs session at the movies sounds great, will look into that....


Marion- I am so glad Logan is eating again....the back to nature bottles are great, am glad they are working...I have never had any problems with them and they kinda look like a nipple! :thumbsup:


Kristin- well hun, I think your job would be very hard...I would find it hard.....its scary to think the people that we have in this society...

well tomorrow we are starting our first session at a thing called Parents as teachers..its all about child development, and we learn about games and things to do with our bubs based on their age...its run by the Dept of Education....cant wait......

well girls, my food has settled so I am off to bed...have a good sleep all of you (and bubs too!)

xo

Becbabe
07-02-2007, 06:14
Hi again,

First – just realized I was talking to Mary yesterday when I meant Marion! Sorry ladies. Can I blame it on baby brain and having the guilts cos we’re reeeally busy at work??

Mary you make me so jealous – we’d have to go into Canberra to get thai ! My favourite is phad thai yum yum. But I also love a good duck red curry. (drools) Isn’t it lovely watching dads & babies playing together? My mum always comments on how sad it was that so many dads in her generation just didn’t have that much of a role with their babies.

Kristin I love your avatar – she looks beautiful! Wow your job sounds hard. I have been reacting to all that stuff on the news so much more now we have Ella. There’s so much stuff that you want to protect her from!!

Re white noise – Ella has been sleeping much better now we leave the fan on all night (we face it out the door when it’s cold!) I’m going to have to record the noise for winter I think!) Speaking of noise, I have just used some flybuys points to buy Ella a stereo. I’m excited – you gotta love something for nothing!

Marion – so glad the bottles are working!!! Bet that’s a load off your mind. Hey you would laugh at Ella… she’s currently chewing on a little kilted fuzzy Scotsman that my friend bought me in Glasgow. :D

Mary-ann nappy free time is a winner in this house – it’s usually when she does new tings like roll & sit up! Must like the freedom :yes:

Sue hugs to you and a kick in the butt for your partner. Grrr!

Hey to experienced mummies – we’re going to a wedding in October in Newcastle. Ella’s invited but we want some grown up time by then! How early can you leave babies with their grandparents for 2 days & a night?

That’d better do for today. My posts just keep getting longer!:ecomcity:

~Kimba~
07-02-2007, 08:06
Morning! No change last night: down by 8, feeds at 11, 1.30, 4 and UP at 6. Tried bringing him to bed with me at 6, but DH didn't go to work today and I think having the extra person in bed was too distracting for Mr Jethro, so he was 'YAY! BED PARTY!' at 6am. He's sooo cute in the mornings though, so delighted to see us, so happy to be alive, you wouldn't miss it for the world.

I'm excited! :smiliedance: found out yesterday we might have gotten a Family Day Care place for Jet after all, from the end of March (I really preferred FDC to a CC centre, at least while he's so little, and it's half the cost). Even better is that the carer lives just around the corner from us, and LOVES little babies! :yelclap: She only does care Tue-Fri 7.30 to 4.30, but that gives me an excuse to cut back my hours at work, which is good too. My boss has already offered for me to go part time if I want, but we can't afford for me to cut back my wages too much, so I'll tell her I want to work from home 1 day a week (Mondays), and finish a little earlier on the other days. Anyway we are going to meet the carer today - please wish me luck that she is good!!! because right now it sounds just perfect :fingerscrossed:. (hey maybe she can teach Jet to sleep and settle LOL)

Re: partners. DH finishes work at lunchtime, so the original plan was to leave Jet with a carer in the mornings and DH in the afternoons. But in some ways I almost think I might rather leave Jet with the carer all day (since we have to pay for a min of 8 hrs anyway), because DH just doesn't seem to 'get it' yet at all. That sounds horrible though doesn't it - poor Jet! So I just hope DH steps up and learns to settle/ feed and generally 'care for' (rather than 'play with') Jet soon...I am going to go get a massage, pedicure, facial and hair done soon as an excuse to leave DH alone with bub on several occasions :D

Re: white noise. Already do it! It helps to settle him but doesn't make a difference to how long he's down for. Although it does come in handy for noise reduction in the wee hours - when I feed Jet at 1.30 I put the white noise on, so that DH doesn't wake him again when he goes to work at 2.30. Oh and I have the fan on in his room all night too.

Bec - you can download a 1hr recording of a fan (or white noise, vacuum cleaner, dryer, etc) for about $5, that's where I got mine. I can PM you the link if you want.

Oops! my little blessing is stirring - I'll BBL for the rest of personals.

suemp
07-02-2007, 10:22
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Re: partners. DH finishes work at lunchtime, so the original plan was to leave Jet with a carer in the mornings and DH in the afternoons. But in some ways I almost think I might rather leave Jet with the carer all day (since we have to pay for a min of 8 hrs anyway), because DH just doesn't seem to 'get it' yet at all. That sounds horrible though doesn't it - poor Jet! So I just hope DH steps up and learns to settle/ feed and generally 'care for' (rather than 'play with') Jet soon...I am going to go get a massage, pedicure, facial and hair done soon as an excuse to leave DH alone with bub on several occasions :D

.

my dp is pretty hopeless with the baby stage . he will gladly admit it. its his 3rd child and he still has no idea except for playing but he is the most fantastic father to jake. they are like best buds to the point i hardly see jake wen dps home. maybe your dp is like mine. ??

GeorgiaAnne
07-02-2007, 13:19
Hi lovelies :wave:
Sorry have been so busy at work so have only been able to catch up quickly so no personals but I have read all and hope to be around a bit more soon.
I was bridesmaid over the weekend which was lovely and the dress actually fitted me, which was a nice surprise. The wedding was lovely and made me a bit nostalgic towards my dh Valentine
Sophia was with my mum fo the night in a hotel room next door which was nice but I don't think I really took advantage of the freedom iykwim.
Anyhoo, hope you're all having a fab day and bbl, hopefully

beck75
07-02-2007, 13:36
Hi All

have had trouble getting onto bubhub today!

Well things are improving in our house after I was ready to sell my baby yesterday!!

Everytime I say something good on here it all breaks but I am quite excited that Kayley slept for a 6.5 hour slot last night - the first time ever!! I had problems getting her down again - trying from 9pm and it not working until almost 11 after what is supposed to be her dream feed! Then she slept all the way through to almost 5.30!! She then went back down until 9.30:yelclap: !

Things have been pretty good today with an hour + sleep this morning but her reflux is acting up so I ended up having to give her some Mylanta. Poor thing, nearly everytime she smiled this morning the milk would come out!!

:fingerscrossed: this is going to be a new habit of sleeping though!!

Kimba - good luck on the carer. My DH is also limited help at the moment. I asked him if he wanted to bath her last night but he was too scared! I did get him to strip her off for me though. We hope he can get a couple of months off on long service leave when I go back to work (August) so we dont have to put Kayley into childcare close to 12 months - I think she should be easier to look after then though.

Its funny talking about work as it seems such a long way away. I used to be so career focused but it has all changed now. Before I left I was doing talent and leadership programs, now I am quite happy to take a hefty pay cut as long as I can spend more time at home and if I had the choice I think I would actually stay home full time for a couple of years (how things change compared to my 50 - 60 hour work weeks). This is one of the reasons we are looking to move to Adelaide - so we can slow down life a bit, reduce commuting time and overall spend more time with Kayley. In addition all my family are in SA so it would be good to be closer to them.

Anyway I have rambled too long and have some things to do so all the best to you all!

~Kimba~
07-02-2007, 18:50
Hmm quiet in here today!

Met a potential carer this afternoon who is lovely and had 4 cute little kids running around (she has 4 there most days). Only problem is that she needs us to start care next week (gasp) in order to secure the place, AND she can only guarantee me 3 days a week in April, not the 4 days I need at minimum...I don't mind starting next week if we have to, it's not that expensive so I'll just pay her and keep Jet at home :laughing: or I can drop him in for a couple of hours while I have a sleep at home which I sorely need! The problem is not being guaranteed 4 days a week, which means I'd definitely have to drop my hours at work, and as nice as that would be, I don't know if we can afford it. Have to do the sums!

Meeting another potential carer tomorrow who can give me 5 days if I want it, but we'd have to take the whole 5 days and start it on the 20th Feb so again we'd be paying for care we don't need just to secure the spot...hmmm. She lives further away so it'll be much harder for me to get there in the mornings (DH takes the car to work). Ah, all these hassles I wish DH's salary could support us so I could be a SAHM for a while.

Anyway -

Beck - glad that Kayley was better today and well done on the sleep! It's cooler here tonight I'm hoping Jet might pull a 5-6 hour sleep, he was VERY happy and good today, but only had a few short naps as we were out and about, so maybe he's tired enough to do it! :fingerscrossed:

mummyG - glad the wedding went well and hooray on fitting into the dress! I bet you looked lovely.

sue - yep my DH sounds a bit like your DP, he will probably be great with Jet once he's not a 'baby' any more. A shame he can't be great with him now though! It's getting very obvious that Jet likes me a lot more and DH is getting a bit jealous :laughing:

bec - if I can leave a baby with a carer most of the day at 6 months, I'm sure you can leave Ella with her grandparents overnight at 1 year of age!

mary - how did Parents as Teachers go? Sounds a bit like Gymbaroo?

Kristin - wow interesting job but yeah now you're a mum it might be harder not to take it on board and get a bit upset!

Marion - so glad that Logan's been sorted out with the new teats/ bottles. We use those bottles and also the Pigeon Peristaltic (Jet seems to suck better and get less wind with the Pigeon ones). I love that word 'feart'!

Maryanne - if I wasn't turning 35 this year I'd be happy to wait a couple of years before TTC but time is a ticking...lucky you working for Qantas do you make the most of the travel perks? Poo at the 3am start though sounds like my DH. How did the movie go?

OK better go and get another bottle prepared in case Mr Jethro decides he needs resettling/ a topup. He went to bed early tonight because he didn't get much sleep today.

Hope everyone's bubs sleep well tonight!

ourfirstbubba
07-02-2007, 19:46
hello girls

hope you and bubs are all well......poor little Natalia is a little out of sorts since having her 4 month injections....she was unsettled last night for nearly 3 hours (b/w 2am and 4.30am)......she was not hysterical but she just could not sleep...I resorted to Panadol which I hate doing and she slept straight away......today she has been okay, she is asleep now (am not sure how , it is pouring rain and we just had the biggest lightening, and blackout...I ran straight to her room and she was sound asleep....:angel:


Bec- thought you had us confused! oh I love Thai....could not handle not having it every now and then...I agree with what you said about our Dads, they were the breadwinners but not very hands on....when my Mum gave birth to me, my Dad was not in the labour room with her...I could not have imagined going through labour without my hubby by my side...he is my soulmate and my rock..... hey, we live in Newcastle, if you need any tips on where to stay/places to go, just let me know.....and I think Ella will be fine ...

Kimba- mm, decisions are hard to make...maybe wait until you meet the other lady tomorrow and decide who you like better??? Parents as Teachers was really nice today.....a room full of babies, singing songs, etc....Natalia seemed to like it......its every fortnight and its only $2 so we will keep on going..also, because its at the school that I used to teach at, the midwife/teacher who runs it really knows her stuff and does home visits once a month....she is amazing....

Beck75- glad Kayley is sleeping better.......I agree with how much you can change after a baby...the last thing on my mind is returning to work......I have never been a career girl as such, but now that I have Natalia, I am in no rush to return...I would like to do some casual teaching days, but no more than this....a teacher asked me today if I would like to do full time for a month in May.....I talked about it with my hubby and whilst the money would be great, I cant leave her for that long..also, my Mum cant look after her for a few months as she will be caring for my Dad once he gets out of rehab from his back operation, and although my dear MIL would do it, I think 5 days a week is a bit much for her.......

Georgia- god bless ya, I bet you wanted to take advantage of the fact that your Mum had bubs next door, but in the back of your mind you would have been conscious of your Mum being next door too.....weddings always make me cry.......I always remember ours and smile Valentine


well, the lightning has given me a headache (bizaar I know, but when the lightning strikes, I get a headache within minutes....weird hey?)......am going to watch Temptation Island on Fox at 9.30pm and then go to bed (I am such a sucker for these cheap, trashy shows!)...have a good sleep girls and sweet dreams for all our bubs..

xo

sare
07-02-2007, 20:05
Hi guys,

We've had some toilet training success today :smiliedance: Eloise did her 1st #1 on the toilet tonight (that girl does everything out of order, she's been doing #2's for a couple of weeks) We made a big who-ha out of it and she just kept repeating "mummy's so proud of me"... it was very cute. On the downside, we've gone through 4 pairs of undies today.

Dh is off to Perth tomorrow, just for 1 night luckily. Be a bit of a test for me to see how I go with the 2 of them, but I'm not really worried...Eloise might just be in bed a bit later if Lara gets demanding.

Lara had a much better day sleep-wise. She is still only up for 1.5hrs - 2.5hrs at the most before she wants a sleep. She is getting so close to rolling over, just her poor little arm gets in the way. It will probably happen while dh is away for work...he missed Eloise's 1st steps because of that.

Kimba - That's great news about the family day care. It's a pity that she can only offer 3 days though, being that she is so close to your house it would have been convenient.

Beck - Great news about the 6.5 hrs sleep last night. You're so right about priorities changing when you have kids, I couldn't care less about work, but I know I will have to go back to work on day :gloomy:

Georgia - Good to hear from you. Glad the wedding went well.

Bec - I think Ella would be fine by then, it just depends on how ready you are to spend the night away from her. The only nights I've spent away from Eloise was when I was in hospital with Lara. She'll be on solids and able to have cows milk by then, so she'll be fine.

Mary - How did the Parents as Teachers go today?

We're off to the health centre tomorrow for Lara's 3 mth check up (can't wait to see how much she has put on) and then Gymbaroo in the afternoon.

I'm off to clean the study...this desk has so much dust and cr@p on it, it's disgusting.

sare
07-02-2007, 20:08
Hi Mary,

I must have been typing while you posted...

:hugs: for Natalia. I hope she's feeling better now and that you all get a good night's sleep tonight.

My dad wasn't in the labour ward with mum when I was born either. He was at work :eek: There's no way I could have got through my 2 labour/deliveries without my dh.


Take care....hope the headache soon goes.

suemp
07-02-2007, 21:06
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sue - yep my DH sounds a bit like your DP, he will probably be great with Jet once he's not a 'baby' any more. A shame he can't be great with him now though! It's getting very obvious that Jet likes me a lot more and DH is getting a bit jealous :laughing:

!

dont worry the tables will turn and you will find you get jealous of wen the boys do their boy stuff together. i threatened to train kane to be gay so id have a shooping buddy (i was joking btw lol)

lucy72
07-02-2007, 22:45
Mary, hope Natalia is okay. Jordans' 2 month needles didn't seem to worry him but his 4 month ones did and for a couple of days. I find he is so much more sookier now and if I walk out of the room he starts to cry. Not lookingforward to the 8 month attachment anxiety!!

Sare, :smiliedance: for Eloise. Tell her bubhub is proud of her as well! You'll be right looking after the two. I feel for you in regards to your in-laws. I am so thankful I get along with my in-laws (although most of them live overseas or interstate!!!).

Georgia, well done on the wedding. It was such a nice day. I have the last fitting tomorrow night. :fingerscrossed: I will fit into it.

Kimba, wish we were a bit more financial as well. The pool was over budget by $15,000 so that has left a huge hole (excuse the pun) in our savings!!! I wasnt planning on going back but every day it looks more and more like I am going to have to. Not looking forward to it.

Whoever mentioned Satay sticks - yummo. My mouth is watering. I love a good satay.

Beck, poor Kayley, but good work on the sleep.

Hello to everyone else, I had better be off to bed as it is now 11:44pm and I need some sleep!

Chat later!
Lucy

Jeffy
08-02-2007, 05:48
I don't care what the nurses and doctors say; those 4 month shots do affect our little bubs. Sam slept heaps at creche yesterday and then went to bed as soon as I got him home at 4 and woke only 3 times to eat :eek: He is still asleep as I write this. The creche does a little powerpoint presentation each day for the parents and Sam was "nicked" by another carer and taken up to the preschool for the day. She must be a funny girl because every picture had Sam in hysterics. I feel really good about this creche now, thank goodness!

I took some time out to clean up and go over our finances yesterday. Things will be a little tight with me going back part-time, or so I thought. Turns out our house is worth much more than I thought and we can roll our car loan and nasty credit card into our mortgage at a much lower rate :smiliedance: AND I'm very excited because we will have plenty of equity to move when we want to.

Kimba - Good luck with the Carer today; I almost went for Family Daycare for the same reason but managed to find this creche. It is 'not for profit' and has a higher carer to bub ratio than is required.

mummyG - I had to laugh as taking advantage of the situation to me means SLEEP!

beck - I used to be a 'climber' at work but I think I'll just be going to get paid from now on!

Gotta fly as bub has just woken up screaming for food!

Becbabe
08-02-2007, 05:51
Hi all,

I know DP thinks I'm being an overprotective mummy worrying about going away for the night at 1 yr too! It's just cos it seems so impossible now. But I plan to have her weaned around one year so that will definitely help too. And I am really looking forward to the wedding, she's my best mate from uni (one of those soulmate friends:hugs: )

Lucy good god if I was up at 11.45 I'd be a zombie, not posting on Bubhub! Where do you get that energy!

Re careers & finance - living off one budget is taking some getting used to. But I'm so glad we're lucky enough to have me on a salary that allows DP to stay home with her. Gotta say I think I'm the freak on here... I really looked forward to going back to work and am loving being back. But since I'm only away from her 3.5 hrs at a time most days (come home for lunch) and I only have to work 8.30 to 4.30, it's a good setup. DP seems to be enjoying being at home, they are getting along very well together - sometimes I'm a bit jealous (she learns so much new stuff while I'm away!)

Sue lol at the shopping buddy. My sister has a 6yo boy and he is already impossible to take shopping (has been since he could walk!)

Sare - yay on the no.1 (bizarre the things you get excited about when you're a mum :D we spend a lot of time talking about wees & poos!)

Whoops got to go, mega cranky baby. BBL hopefully.

ikis84
08-02-2007, 10:03
Hi All,

I agree with you Jen - the needles do definately affect them! Last time Olivia screamed for an hour straight and then was very sleepy for a day... yesterday for her 4mnth needles she didn't cry after at all, but has been more quiet than usual. She also slept until 6am this morning, had a feed and then slept til 9! Maybe she should get needles more often, lol...

Kimba - Hope the next carerer is great so that you can get the days that you need. I agree - if you have to put him in before you need it, put him in for a couple of hours and have some much, much needed sleep! This semester Olivia will be going into childcare one day a week, but next semester I have a 7 week prac, so I will be looking into family day care for that block.

Bec, so glad to hear that it is working out so well with you going back to work. My DH would love to be a SAHD... maybe for the next one he can do some consultancy work, where he can work from home. That is if I ever finish my teaching degree! I only have 5 subjects to go, but it feels like it is taking forever.

I am so ****ted with my DH lately. He is always coming home late from work, and is so stressed out as he has over commited himself with work, church and other things. I feel bad for him, but there is nothing I can do to make him slow down. I just have to cop the stressed out husband. It really sucks to feel lonely when you are ment to be in a relationship. There is my little vent/winge for the day :rolleyes: I can tell him over and over but it is getting nowhere.

Sare- yay to Elouise! Are you using training pants, or just undies? I am so not looking forward to tt... mainly because then I will have to give up all my lovely cloth nappies :) I will just have to have more children so I can keep buying nappies!! I would not mind giving up having to wipe a pooey bum though!

Bec - so glad that kayley slept well for you! Did it continue last night?? :fingerscrossed:

Flower159
08-02-2007, 10:15
Good morning everyone. How are we all today?

All is good here so far today .... yesterday started off well and then Logan decided that he wasn't happy with the world and fought sleep all day, so fingers crossed. It's just me and him today, so I'm sure he'll be good!

Bec - just be glad that it's working out that you're back at work and that your enjoying it. Sometimes I think I should just get a job and leave them all to it instead of being at their beck and call all the time!! But I did all my work when the girls were little, so I'm going to enjoy my time with Logan and (maybe) the next one! And you'll be fine for the wedding. I left Kelly when she was 1 week old to go to a Scotland v Englad football match at Wembley. Now who's the bad mother!??! But it was a once in a life time and I had a ball and she never knew I was gone ...... but it does the little ones good to have some time away from you both as then they wont be strange when they go to school or pre primary, or whatever it's called!! I'm worried about Logan clinging to me as there's no-one to babysit for us and he'll not be used to other people. Ah well, them's the breaks.

Jen - that's great about the creche. What's it like having time to yourself? The gym must be taking a pounding, is it?! Don't worry too much about budgets as you will cope when you have to, it's amazing what you can cut back on when you need to.

Logan's got his jabs next week and I'm worried now that he's going to be even WORSE than he is now - is that possible??! Big :hugs: to all those babies suffering, it'll be over soon.

Kimba- good luck with the child care. At least it's coming at a good time - if it was closer to you returning to work you'd be running about like a dafty! And you might be right, he might settle down in to a better sleep pattern with somebody else. I hope it all works out anyway. Haha on DH. Mine tried to help with Logan yesteday seeing as he's off the boobs, and god help him!! The wean was having none of it!! So DH had petted lip out, "you settle him better than me" -Eh, that's because I've done it everytime since he was born??!? You've gotta laugh ....

Knew it was too good to be true, there's the baby coughing away and wanting some food! But before I go - I'm away to Bussleton this weekend to see DHs cousins ..... they'd better not be anything like the other in-laws!!! (poor you Sare, could you trade the mil in for a new model?!) But I'm all excited as I haven't been out of Perth yet -so Hurrah for me!! :smiliedance: I'm preparing myself for the drive from hell with that Logan playing up, but hey, it's a weekend away and I can pretend I'm on holiday!

Hope you're all good. Take care all. Marion.xx

~Kimba~
08-02-2007, 11:37
Just a quicky as we have to take Jet to the doc at 1 and then rush to meet the other potential carer before 2 (hope the doctor is on time for once!).

Better than usual sleep last night! must have been the cooler weather :smiliedance: 7 till 12.10, then a feed at 3.20 (didn't fully settle till 4 though), then up at 6.10 and into bed with me till about 8. I hope this is a sign of some improvement at last - but I know I will jinx myself by saying that!

Marion :laughing: thanks for the new terms for today "dafty" and "petted lip" - love them!!!

Don't have time for more personals till later, but I just wanted to say hi and hope everyone's bubs are behaving and that those who've had their jabs are settling down OK. (If the needles make Jet sleep a lot next week I won't be complaining! LOL.)

m_jelly
08-02-2007, 16:41
I ran away for a couple days to let my mum and dad and giant horde of siblings entertain abbey and spoil me, cos its my birthday today. Yay! I am OLD. I'm just about to read through all the posts (well as many as i can load out here on dialup anyway).

Haha, I weighed Abbey at the chemist today and she is almost 9kg. Can anyone say boomba? I havent made the appt for her jabs yet, im waiting for a time its convenient for me to listen to her grizzle for an extended period. Sometime in the next couple weeks i will have to get them done. Poor bubs.

Re careers: Im pretty sure i will start up my teaching diploma next feb, but im not going back to work until she starts kindy. I was a project officer with a major aust finance company before i had abbey, and event management before that, but none of that particularly thrilled me enough to entice me back. I'm launching a website end of march which i will tell you about when its up and im hoping it will get some extra cash coming in. If nothing else it will make me feel clever while abbey is talking to sesame street.

got to go ensure my cake is creamed and chocolated enough!

~Kimba~
08-02-2007, 19:34
Michelle! happybirthday

whoa Abbey 9kg? don't worry she isn't alone. Took Jet to the doc today who said he looks like front row forward material :laughing:. Hence she advised NOT to start him on Farex or any other solids yet, because we don't want to give him obesity issues - especially since he's already got the boombah genes on my side.

She also confirmed that my baby boy is now definitely TEETHING :eek: - he has 2 buds coming through on top. Great! just what I need, when I was hoping he was getting over his '3-month' unsettledness, now the teeth are starting early! Seems I am destined never to have any sleep, LOL. Had to give him Panadol at bedtime as he was rubbing his gums ferociously and crying in pain, he's still whimpering in his sleep, poor bubba.

Met the other potential carer today who is a lovely Lebanese grandma and looks like she'd spoil him rotten with cuddles (not such a bad thing at this age!). The only thing is that we have to start paying from 20th Feb if we want to secure the place even though she can't take him till April (as she won't take him till he's 6 months), and it's a bit of a hassle for me to get to her place with bub in the morning, without a car. But she can give me a guaranteed 5 days a week mornings only, which suits us better, would cost about the same as the other carer, and I wouldn't have to cut back days at work (unless I wanted to). So it looks like she's the obvious choice and it's probably worth paying the 5 weeks we won't be actually using, just to make sure we get his care secured. Lucky we got that baby bonus huh!

Marion - hope Logan is being a good little wean tonight! It's cute that he coughs for you - Jet does that too.

Pam - hope your little Olive is feeling better tonight. Love your new avatar pic! I'm with you on the stressed out DH mine is a bit the same and yes, it does suck to feel lonely in a relationship, especially with a new bub. You know we are all here to talk to any time you need us! :hugs:

Bec - you aren't a freak, it's great that you love your job and can balance work and family the way you do! we could probably live off my salary too if we cut back a bit, but DH wouldnt' want to be a SAHD, it's more of a cultural thing than anything I think. Anyway I think a professional carer in the mornings and DH in the afternoons won't be such a bad thing - a good compromise! (I tell myself that anyway)

Jen - if the 4 month shots have that effect on Jet it won't be a bad thing LOL. I'm so glad that your creche has worked out so well! It must be a huge relief and make it so much easier on you to know Sam's in such good hands. And that's EXCELLENT news about the refinancing. I was hoping we'd be able to do the same with our place and clear our car loan and credit cards - but unfortunately property values dropped just after we bought our place (in 2005) and haven't climbed much since. Bugger!

lucy - your poor little man wanting his mummy! Jet's been a bit like that (crying if I walk away) and hasn't even had his shots yet. Maybe it's a 4 month thing? Hope Jordan is back to his cheery self soon.

Sue - yeah I probably will get jealous when they go off to do their kung fu together etc - but I'll make sure that Jet's always a mummy's boy at heart HAHAHA

Sare - yay on the TT progress! Tell Eloise we're all proud of her and that she's very clever. Glad that Lara is settling down and that's great about the rolling - Jet is no closer to rolling back to front than he was a few weeks ago. I think he's lazy LOL, or else his big cloth-nappy bum is too heavy? Hopefully a few Gymbaroo sessions and some practice at home will kick him along. Not that I'm in a rush for him to be mobile just yet!

Mary - hope Natalia is recovering OK. I hate giving Panadol too but it's good when you see it give them some relief. It's great that you're in a position where you don't have to go back to FT work if you dont' want to! Lucky Natalia.

Beck - well done on the sleep I hope she does it again tonight!

I'm just waiting another 10min to see if Jet will wake and need resettling (he went down at 8) and if not I'm off to bed myself. Really headachy and tired today. I wonder why! LOL. Good night to all!

GeorgiaAnne
08-02-2007, 20:00
hi
happybirthday michelle, hope you've had a lovely day. I could've guessed you were an aquarian (it takes one to know one. Crikey, Abbey's growing well! Bravo to you!
Kimba - TEETH!! Goodness, they're really growing up. Your carer situation sounds great. It must be a weight off your mind to have found 2 carers who onviously love children so much.
Marion - I'm with you on the sleep fighting today. Sophia had her needles today and hasn't slept apart from a quick nap in the car. Not even panadol, rice cereal and boob gave any
Pam - Hi love your new avatar, what a cutie she is. It's hard with men isn't it? I think there is that ingrained pressure of 'providing' for men, right or wrong, when a baby comes that can make you feel less united. I'm sorry it's hard but i'm sure you'll come out the other end a stronger couple than ever:yes:
Bec - I don't think it's freaky enjoying your work, I think you're very lucky. Good on ya
Jen - :smiliedance: on your house etc. A bit like finding a $50 note in your jeans pocket you didn't know you had (or not) :laughing: On the sleep, it's been a while for us ttc iykwim so I was well up for it.
Lucy - When are you a bm? I'm sure you'll look gorgeous! I had to wear blue eyeshadow and for someone who NEVER wears makeup it was a bit of a shock ( I will post pictures when I get some so you can all have a laugh!)
Sare - Hurray for the number 1's, what a clever sausage she is.
Sorry I can't finish personals as Miss Muffet is grizzling so i'll see y'all tomorrow xxx

beck75
08-02-2007, 20:50
Hi All

Just a quick one from me before I go and get some ZZZZs. Kayley is down but it still took an hour to get her asleep - for some reason she really fights this one - anyone else having the same trouble???

Looks like the sleeping through was luck only as I was up again last night at around 2.30 and she took about 2 hours to go to sleep before then!! Oh well we will see what happens tonight. last night I couldnt go to sleep myself which is so frustrating! You know that you cant sleep in!

Bec - I am glad that you enjoy your job - I wish mine was one I could jump out of bed for in the mornings!! I would really love to run my own business but they are so expensive to start up and a bit of a risk especially with a new bubs. We could probably survive on mine or DHs wage if we had to but would mean we would have to pull our heads in!! DH would love to be a SAHD (although I think we would have to wait until after the real baby stage before he was a lot of help) but I would hate to be stuck at work for the many hours to support us and miss these prescious years.

Kimba - congrats on the teething )well I am not sure if that is the right thing to say but they have to come sometime)! Kayleys gums have started to swell so I dont think she will be 6 - 9 months either. I think when a tooth pops up it will be the end of BF for me though!! It is bad enough now with her squeezing my face, pulling my hair, ripping my lip down etc when we feed now!!

Michelle - what a big bubs!! She definately looks big and beautiful in the photos! I think 9kgs is time to turn around the carseat if you havent already done so.

Well no more personals for me tonight - I am going to try and get some sleep.

ourfirstbubba
08-02-2007, 21:01
hello lovelies

hope you are all well tonight......thanks for all your wishes, Natalia seems to be okay again....she slept well last night (from 7.15pm through to 4.30am and then from 5.30am until 8.30am) so :fingerscrossed: the after effects of the immunisations are over.......

happybirthday Michelle!!!!!

Tonight the little munchkin wouldnt eat for me...I made her bottle at 7pm and it was 7.30pm and she was fussing, we changed rooms, positions and still she wouldnt eat.....then hubby came home from work and , she ate beautifully for him and she was in bed at 8pm...he is so good with her, and I was so glad he took over tonight as I have my monthlys and a headache

sare yah to Eloise, what a cutie!

Lucy- good luck for the fitting, you will look fab.....is that when separation anxiety starts? Natalia is ok in other peoples arms, but she always looks around to check if I am still there....I melt.....I read somewhere that under 6 months of age if we are not present they think we are gone forever......or something like that :gloomy:

Jen so happy for you that Sam is adjusting to creche.....what a cherub...and great news that you can roll some of your debts into your mortgage...my hubby is a mortgage broker and he is always helping people to do this all the time....he sees people with huge debts.....

Pam- are you studying primary or secondary?? The 5 subjects seems like a lot but it will go quickly.....I hope things are ok with your hubby....its Valentines Day next week, a good excuse to spend time together and reflect on what makes your marriage special

Marion have a great weekend away.....Logan will be fine, he will probably sleep in the car!

Michelle- glad you got spoilt for your bday!!!!!!! 9kg, wow!!!!!!!

Kimba- I hope little Jet is getting to enjoy his sleep now!!!!! And poor bubba teething.......I am glad that you have found a carer, what a relief for you.....We are lucky that we dont have to go through finding a daycare spot....my Mum and MIL are more than willing to take turns to look after Natalia.....ideally I would love just 2 days a week teaching....

Georgia hope little Sophia is okay...the needles do definetely knock them about a bit, esp their sleep....Natalia is ok now, but it has taken a good 2 days...

well I am having a peach then going to bed to read, then zzzzzzzzz...

sleep well!

xo

M~T~J~M
08-02-2007, 21:08
:wave:

Was settling in to do the whole big long post thing until my girlfriend rang an hour ago. She's asked me to do a reading at her wedding in March. :eek: A little daunting, but I couldn't say no, as it's not about how I feel, it's about how it will make her feel. So, I have just got off the phone now, and am now ready to :sleeping:
I will pop back in tomorrow to do what I planned to do tonight :yes:

Hope you all get a good sleep

M~T~J~M
08-02-2007, 21:10
Oh, but before I do.....


happybirthday Michelle!! Hope you had a lovely day! And remember....One's not old until she feels old, lol!

sare
08-02-2007, 21:13
Hi guys,

It'll just be a quick one from me, Lara has woken for a feed....she better sleep well tonight. No dh to do some of the late night shift :gloomy:

happybirthday Michelle. Hope your cake was chocolatey and creamy enough (need a drool icon here) Hope you had a great day and were spoilt rotten by your family.

Kimba :yelclap: on Jet's good night's sleep. :fingerscrossed: he sleeps well tonight for you and the headache disappears. Wow on Jet teething already. Have to say I don't envy you...not that Eloise had any reall problems teething (she didn't cut her 1st one until she was 10 months old)...the thought of biting when b/fing just makes me wince. The thought of a baby with teeth biting and stretching my nipple like an elastic band just plain scares me (you can tell I'm hoping that Lara doesn't teethe for a long time - lol)

Marion - Enjoy your trip.

Everyone else - I'll catch up on personals tomorrow.

Ok a few updates...

Eloise's TT - No luck today. When I'm home I have her in knickers, when I'm out pull-ups and for sleeps she wears nappies. Going to take us a long time to work this out, but we'll get there eventually.

IL's - Feel bad for all the stuff I wrote about the IL's (it's all true though) so I deleted (I have this fear that they will be able to track it all down, not that they even know about BH, username etc) I took Lara to Gymbaroo today and they looked after Eloise. They've offered to do it regularly. So I think they've felt a bit like they haven't been wanted/welcome and we've had our noses out of joint because they haven't offered and are always at SIL's.

Gymbaroo - Lara loved it. She chuckled and smiled through most of it. Can't wait to take her again next week.

Coping without dh - I have such an admiration for single mums. Being a mum is a tough job anyway, and not having dh around makes me appreciate how wonderful he is. We had a good day...now just need to settle Lara.

On that note...I'm off. Have a lovely [long] night's sleep ladies and bubs.

lesley
08-02-2007, 21:26
hey all
i have been absent fro awhile now but hopefully get on more regular .
my dd 2 started kinder last week so its just me and montanah at hope now she sleeps so much better during the day and at night she has been a little grumpy the last few days but you cant be perfect all the time now can you lol hope everyone is doing well i have posted in the milestones and growth posts as well but i will try to pop back tomorrow as i am off to bed now so take care all

~Kimba~
09-02-2007, 09:02
Morning all! *yawn*

Sleep last night wasn't too bad - Jethro was down by 8, up at 12.30 (even though the phone rang at 11, it didn't wake him! yay), up again at 2.30 when DH's alarm went off, then into bed with me from 5.30 till 7.30. Now if I can only get him to stretch out that first sleep till 2.30 and then not wake again till 6 I'll be happy! I don't even care if he doesn't sleep right through yet (as nice as it would be) - I'm not asking a lot!

He's going down a bit easier for day naps too :smiliedance: although he wants to feed to sleep and then only naps for 40min. It's better than fighting him for 40min though and he seems to be over his 'sleep trauma', so now I can start using NCSS to work on him not needing the boob to sleep/settle and being able to resettle himself to sleep longer. Although the doc yesterday said that some babies are just really alert and can do just fine on short daynaps, maybe he's one of them.

No sign of teeth this morning but I will be checking every day now! I'm dreading getting bitten too...:eek:

lesley - welcome back! it must be nice to have the place to yourself with bub. Great to see how she's grown and how she's doing!

sare - hope you aren't missing DH too much. I meant to say that the IL's sound a bit like the way my parents are with my brother's bub (the first grandchild), although I'm sure they don't realise how biased they come across when they're always talking about my nephew and have his photos on show and not Jet's etc. Who knows though, maybe they constantly talk to my brother about Jet? hmmm. At least they're minding Eloise when you take Lara to Gymbaroo so that's a start - the more time she spends with them the more they'll dote, right?:fingerscrossed:

MT & J's Mum - how lovely that your friend asked you to do a reading you obviously mean a lot to her - yes it will be nerve-wracking but just think how special it will be for her!

Michelle - hope that cake was good and that you had a lovely birthday!

Mary - it's lovely that your DH is so good with Natalia! Glad that she's back to her cute self.

Beck - sorry Kayley is still fighting sleep. Jet's worst 'sleep fight' at the moment is the first one of the day (it used to be the easiest!) so I just leave him up longer till he's really ready for it. At night he's grizzly from being tired but goes down pretty well once he's had his full bottle. He's never up past about 8pm at night though, maybe you could try putting Kayley to bed earlier and just resettling her if she stirs?

Georgia - LOL at the blue eyeshadow!!! Yes photos please! hahaha

OK sounds like Mr J is awake (that was a short sleep!). Gymbaroo today and I've got DH coming with us so that he can learn more things to do with Jet in playtime, so I'm hoping he enjoys it!

Have a good day all...

Becbabe
09-02-2007, 10:08
Just a quicky this morning as we have baby 1st aid today, then off for a weekend of nanny & poppy visits. So I'll be away this weekend (lord, imagine how many posts there'll be by sunday night!)

Quick couple of personals though -
Happy birthday michelle!

Kimba teeth! Yikes! But at least the sleep is gradually improving?! Hope you have a good weekend with him. You might not want Ella to visit yet... she woke every 2 hrs last night & then wanted to be up for the day at 4.30... just to remind us to be grateful for when she sleeps longer!

That'll have to do, off to pack for two of us, take a quiche out of the oven & be ready to feed Ella & whiz out the door when she wakes up... (lovely DP is watching her ATM).

Bye! Have a good weekend everyone!

GeorgiaAnne
09-02-2007, 12:34
Howdy,
Well, the lack of day sleep caught up with my daughter last night and I had to wake her at 9:15am!! She still seems to be a bit sore where they injected her though, poor little soul.
Bec - mmmmm, hot fresh quiche, my favourite. Have a great weekend with your family.
Kimba - That sounds like a pretty good night from your charge! I hope ncss is good for you. Have fun at Gymbaroo. The one I wanted to go to was full so hopefully they will have a cancellation as I am on the waitlist, maybe next time. What do you do at it?
Lesley - Welcome back, hope you're having a fun time with your gorgeous girl.
Sare - Ikwym about single mums, they are amazing! I also miss dh desperately when he goes away but I go back to taking him for granted about 2 days after he gets back.
MT &JS MUM - That is lovely about the reading, what a great honour. It's better than a speech because at least you can get it done early in the day and enjoy the reception without being nervous!
Mary - I'm glad Natalia is back to normal. It is amazing how much the needles can knock them around.
Beck - :fingerscrossed: for a good night's sleep tonight for you. It must be hard when they can sleep through but don't do it every time.
Anyway, better do some work

Gumby
09-02-2007, 13:02
Afternoon all. Just popping in while James is asleep.
He had his 4 month needles today and he didnt seem to mind them. He looked abit confused as to what was going on but apart from that he was fine.
He now weighs 8.1kg is 65cms long and his head is 44cms.

I enrolled dd2 into familt day care which she should start next week. She is getting so lonely @ home.


Well have to run, take care all :D

M~T~J~M
09-02-2007, 13:06
:wave:
What a lovely day we have today. Pity about my children having too much energy though, lol!!

:mad: have to go already, I think they all have some sort of micro chip in them that sends them haywire as soon as I turn the computer on, as I am not gettign a minute to myself.

Will try again tonight when all is quiet :fingerscrossed:

diesal444
09-02-2007, 14:47
HI EVERYONE.............:wave:

Well whoever is breaking our babies knocked on my door last night!!!
I dont know what happened but last night was a huge shock for me.
I feel bad for saying this especially in front of you kimba. I got so used to Darcy sleeping through from 8pm till 7am she really threw me last night. She went down at 8 but woke at 11.30 needing resettling and then again at 4.30am but this time wanting a feed. I probably sound very ungrateful but when your body gets used to this routine its a mighty shock when it gets thrown out. I didnt mind at all coz she went back down till 8.30am. And of course she was all smiles and laughing so it makes it almost good to be getting up early.
Well I went to the movies on wednesday with my mothers group and it was fantastic!!!... saw Miss Potter which I enjoyed surprisingly. Only had to get up once to settle Darcy and all the other bubs slept right through!!!!!!!... going again next week to see The pursuit of happiness...cant wait

I have been reading on here about those of you who take your bubs in the shower so I thought I would give it a go. :thumbsdown: ... not good. She hated it, maybe I should have tried it sooner.
Well I had better go, DP is on holidays and is building a verandah off the side of our house and I promised I would help him paint..... exciting stuff huh...:rolleyes:

Hope everyone has a great day and a wonderful weekend!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lesley
09-02-2007, 15:08
hey all

I just wanted to keep my promise of dropping in lol

bubba is doing well growing and all i too think we are getting TEETH she is only just 4 month boy how time flies . Has anyone stated solids yet ? sorry if you have already posted that i have not had a chance to read through yet hope all is good everywhere else

bye for now :wizard:

sare
09-02-2007, 15:25
Hi all,

Just a quick one (for me anyway :laughing: ) as I'm feeling pretty cr@ppy at the moment. Nothing in particular, just tired and a few achey (sp?) joints (I sound like I'm 90!!!)

Lara took ages to settle last night. I think I finally got to bed around 12.30am. But she slept until 7.45am, so I'll forgive her. Eloise has really missed her daddy, she doesn't understand why he didn't come home. Dh is an engineer and his company is quoting a big gas job over in WA. They've been told that they will likely get the job, but that means that he may be back and forth a bit over the next 18 months. His work is really good though. In 2005/6, he worked on another big job in Darwin and as he had to stay for a while, they paid for Eloise and I to go up with him twice; once for 3 weeks and another time for 2 weeks.

Mary-ann- I hope Darcy sleeps better for you tonight. Just when you think that you have a routine going, they decide it's time to stir everything up :confused: Good luck with the painting.

M,T & J's MUM - My girls are asleep...that's normally the only chance I get to have a read and a post. Pretty soon I'm guessing that Eloise will be fighting me for use of the computer. That was nice of your friend to ask you to do a reading, but I know how you feel, I hate reading (or having attention drawn to me) in front of crowds.

Rian - Well on getting dd2 enrolled in family day care. Now all your visitors are gone it will give you and James some quality time together and hopefully you some time to relax.

Georgia - Hope poor little Sophia is ok. Nothing worse than seeing your baby upset and there being very little you can do for her. I hope you get a better night's sleep tonight.


I meant to say that the IL's sound a bit like the way my parents are with my brother's bub (the first grandchild), although I'm sure they don't realise how biased they come across when they're always talking about my nephew and have his photos on show and not Jet's etc. Who knows though, maybe they constantly talk to my brother about Jet?

Kimba - I think you might be right. I'm going to be positive about everything (until the next time they pi$$ me off anyway :laughing: )
How did Jet go at Gymbaroo today? I bet you will find that he soon gets exhausted from all that exercise.

Mary - Hope you're feeling a little better today. That's great of your dh to be such a good help.

Okay...think I must be starving my bubby (just kidding). She was weighed and measured y'day and she hasn't even put on 2kg since she was born (4.15kg at birth, 6.03kg now). She's doing well though - 75 percentile for weight and 90th percentile for length. She may just end up being tall and skinny like her sister.

Oh and some exciting news weight-wise... I've now lost 10kg since the 1st of Jan and over 20kg since I was pg. :smiliedance: Still got about 15kg to go, but I'm getting there.

This weekend is busy for us. Swimming for Eloise and then the IL's for lunch tomorow. Sunday, we're presenting Lara to the parish for her Baptism and then I'm off to a girlfriend's baby shower (I'm sure I'll still manage to get on here - can't go without my daily Bub Hub fix)

So much for this been quick...

Have a great weekend girls (and bubs)...

GeorgiaAnne
09-02-2007, 16:03
Hi Girls,

Sare - Sounds similar to Sophia in the percentiles, she is long but not too chubby. Did you find that Eloise stayed the same?
I was thinking about il and thought maybe because it is their daughter that they feel a bit closer and don't want to intrude. I know my mum feels like that as she doesn't want to interfere with sil and my bro, doesn't mind about me though, lol.
Lesley - I have started with rice cereal and Sophia loves it and nothing goes to waste!
Diesal - I hope Darcy goes back to normal tonight for you, it must have been quite a shock.
bbl, crying, restless bubba calling...

sare
09-02-2007, 16:24
Sounds similar to Sophia in the percentiles, she is long but not too chubby. Did you find that Eloise stayed the same?


At 4 months Eloise was 6.17kg (50th percentile) and 64cm (80th percentile) at her last check-up (when she was 2 in Sept) she was 12.5kg (around 60th percentile) and 87.6cm (about 70th percentile). Mind you she has shot up since then and I wouldn't be surprised if she was back around the 80th percentile for height. So I guess that she has stayed somewhat the same.

Eloise eats like a horse (luckily it's 99% healthy stuff) and has stayed around the same percentile.


I was thinking about il and thought maybe because it is their daughter that they feel a bit closer and don't want to intrude.

I think you are right. Unfortunately there is going to be a day when the girls notice that their grandparents treat their cousin differently...but when that day comes it will be their problem. As I said though, I am going to be much more positive around them. It was lovely of them to watch Eloise when I take Lara to Gymbaroo ... see being positive already :p

~Kimba~
09-02-2007, 16:39
Unfortunately there is going to be a day when the girls notice that their grandparents treat their cousin differently...but when that day comes it will be their problem.

Yep sadly I think the same will happen with Jet and his cousin...which makes me really sad since my parents are the only grandparents that Jet will really know (DH's parents are split up and live in 2 different countries overseas). Whereas my nephew is lucky and has BOTH sets of grandparents (my parents and my SIL's parents) living in the same town, he already gets babysat by family instead of needing daycare and is spoilt rotten by the attention, so you'd think my parents would try to make it up to poor little Jet when they see him, wouldn't you? They even said (when he was born) that they were glad they didn't have to 'share' him with anyone else, and that they feel 'closer' to him because I'm their daughter, but they sure don't show it :(

Ah well what can you do? Family politics is almost as bad as office politics :laughing:

sare
09-02-2007, 16:46
Ah well what can you do? Family politics is almost as bad as office politics

Ain't that the truth :yes: :laughing:

GeorgiaAnne
09-02-2007, 19:06
Hi lovies,
Kimba - I bet your parents wish they were closer geographically to you. It does make it easier when you can just pop around. I'm lucky with my family as we are all quite no bullsh1t and like to have a good ol' fight and then get on with it. My husband hates it as his family are all quite quiet and don't tend to say what's on their mind.
Sare - That's good about you feeling more positive darl, i'm sure things will get better. My paternal grandma always paid a lot more attention to her daughter's children and used to always call me Victoria (my cousin's name)very :shame: but who cares? I thought it was funny!
Miss Sophia is enjoying the cricket tonight and seems to be in better spirits so :fingerscrossed: for a better night, and for Jethro, sleepy dust all round :wizard:

~Kimba~
09-02-2007, 19:28
Georgia - you're probably right it makes such a difference living further away. I would have thought that they'd make MORE of an effort then when they see him. I suppose time will tell!

Well people I caved tonight and put 1/2 teaspoon of Farex in Jet's bedtime bottle to see what happens. But I only gave him 120ml of ABM instead of the 150ml he's been having, because of what the doc said (don't want to make him too fat by adding solids to his diet too early!).

Anyway it's not looking promising as he's already needed resettling twice since 7.30, and needed a little topup already :laughing: but I am ever hopeful that SOMETHING has got to work at some stage! :fingerscrossed:

Nighty night...:sleeping:

ikis84
09-02-2007, 19:36
You should all check this out... for those who were thinking of turning the car seat around! :eek:

http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=68044

M~T~J~M
09-02-2007, 20:17
I'm going to try again now that my house seems to have settled a bit...

Re: Occupation - I was/am a Childcare Director. I am a fully qualified child care worker, and had been Directing a centre for over two years when I resigned due to being knocked back on a four day week request - I was preg with DS2 and at that time seperated from DH. If I ever return to work, I would like to stay in that area, I think, but not in a centre. I would have to be involved in the training/assessment of staff, or in with the Deparment as I would like to help make a difference to the many 'poorly run' centres and 'inexperienced and poorly trained' staff.

Re: Growth and percentiles - Jarvis's head circumference has been sitting in the 50th percentile since birth - Length has been just over the 75th percentile since birth - and his weight has been steady on the 90th percentile. Just flicked through the other boys books too - DS2 has been steady around the 50th percentile for everything since birth, and DS1 has been mostly in the 90th and even above the 97th percentile :eek: He was a chubba!!

Sare: I'm so hearing you with the whole IL's thing. My BIL is a single dad, and MIL is always showing her 'favorites' with him and DH's nephew. It's absolutely gets on my nerves, and DH has even said that he is just used to being '2nd':eek: I am always being told to be more positive too, but I honestly can not stand them!! Congrats on the weight loss too!! I am still approx 3kgs from pre preg weight, and am trying my hardest every day to walk that little bit further. My next 'weigh day' will be on Sunday, so :fingerscrossed: I have lost another kilo this week. Hope you're feeling a little better tonight!
I know how you must be feeling with DH away. Last year, DH worked as an interstate turck driver for 6-8 months, and was home only a couple of nights a week (if that). The kids really suffered from it, and DH would often become upset having to leave them too. Hence the decision to stop doing that.

Diesel444 - That baby breaker has been visiting my place this last week too! I had a very fussy eater - he has never once refused the boob - sucking then coming off, continously for 2 days. I noticed some slight cramping though, so think perhaps I may have been ovulating? Will know for sure in a couple of weeks. I had to resort feeding him formula just to shut him up. Then he started waking through the night...three times!! I wasn't worth talking too on Wednesday! Thank god things seemed to have settled again now - slept right through from 6.00pm - 5.30am last night. Hope all is settled with you too.

Georgia - It was nice to be asked to do the reading, but I have now been thrown into turmoil!! I have another wedding 2 weeks before this one, and have only worried booking myself into the hairdresser for the earlier one, not the one I'm going to speak at! So, I will have to get on the phone and book a colour, blow wave, etc now, and will definantly have to shop for a new outfit!! Oh well, all the pampering will be worth it, lol!

Marion - Enjoy the time away!

Kimba - I am sending you some sleep vibes! :wizard: Please Jet, let tonight be the night!! Did you end up making the decision about which carer you are going to choose. You have been lucky to have choices - Family Day Care is sooo hard to get here. It does seem a little rough that you need to pay for a whole 5 weeks, but if it ensures Jet gets a spot, I guess it's worth it. Seeing as though you are thinking of paying for the 5 weeks, would you consider taking him a day or two each week to ease him in, and to give yourself some time off? Just a thought.

I think my post is long enough now, lol. Wonder how Sal, Lloyd and Nedd are enjoying their honeymoon!

Have a great night girls. Hope the little ones are all wonderful sleepers for their mummies tonight!

M~T~J~M
09-02-2007, 20:32
Pam - Thanks for that link.

I was actually going to post about car seats tonight, but deleted it.

I spoke to my Health Nurse about this yesterday as Jarvis is just under 8kg, and our car seat says to be turned when the child reaches 9kg. I expressed my concern for his safety as I am aware that leaving a child rearward facing is the safest option. Anyway, she explained to me that unless the car seat states that it's able to be rearward facing with a child weighing more than 9kg, it must be turned forward facing. She said that this was because the car seats were built to those weights, and if you were to leave a child rearward facing after they reached the specified weight capacity, it would be just as unsafe for the child.
So, please check what specifications your children's car seats have on them before making your decision to turn the or not.

Sarah

di_matt
09-02-2007, 20:58
I have returned. :smiliedance:
Gee I missed you guys. Moving house is a major pain but we are all in and half organised now.

Sarah: Snap on the profession, only I ran a centre for 4 years. I'm not sure that I want to stay in that field though so we will see. I am perfectly happy at home with Adam.....I missed just being a 'mum'. Although if DH had his way I'd be back at work now and he'd be home as I would earn nearly twice what he earns... Money isn't a be all or end all for me though.

Well I have a little bit of reading to catch up on, I hope all Mum's & Bubs are happy & healthy :D

Adam took the move like a pro....he was the best baby while I was busy. His sleep routine is a little out but that will settle when he is more relaxed about where he is ( I hope lol).....

Okie dokie going to read what's been happening and will catch up tomorrow

beck75
09-02-2007, 21:45
Hi All

No time for personals as I am exhausted and going to bed. Kayley had a false start at her 5pm sleep (only going 10 minutes) and I tried for an hour to settle her again with no luck. Got her up for a feed and tried to put her down again and finally gave up after another hour. Gave her her bath, massage and a top up feed, read story and still could not get her to sleep. Ended up giving up and getting her up and walking in circles while eating tea with one hand. Finally got her to sleep at 10.30 on her tummy on my lap in front of the TV (with the music channel on).

I have a question - is this unusual taking this long to settle? Sometimes she is asleep in 10 minutes but it seems if she misses a sleep then we are just buggered, she will fight it forever!!

Also, when you are trying to settle them in the cot, how long until you give up?? I am trying not to let her think she can just cry and I will pick her up but it is too tough after an hour and I dont think she is ever going to stop (mind you in this time she will settle then cry and settle then cry etc but by the end it is pretty much crying solid).

She is due for rollover feed when she fell asleep and I'm not going to risk it so she will miss out tonight! I did give her a top up just after 9pm hoping to feed her to sleep (it worked for about 2 minutes)!

Anyway - I hope everyone else is doing well.

beck75
10-02-2007, 10:00
So much for the good sleep, we were up at 11.20; 2.30; 4.50; 7.30 and 9.10 - we seem to be going backwards!!! I really hope this is a growth spurt.

Anyway I have to run and get ready to go out. Hope others had a better sleep!

~Kimba~
10-02-2007, 11:18
Well, unfortunately the Farex made NO difference at all last night! Jethro wanted feeds at 11.15, 2.30 and 4.50 then wouldn't resettle so I had to bring him to bed at 5.30 where at least he slept till 7. So that's the same (if not a bit worse) than the previous few nights. Maybe I didn't give him enough Farex, but I don't want to overdo it? Will keep trying though.

Sue (or anyone else who's done it) - How much Farex do you put in a bottle? I put 1/2 teaspoon in 120mls.


Did you end up making the decision about which carer you are going to choose...Seeing as though you are thinking of paying for the 5 weeks, would you consider taking him a day or two each week to ease him in, and to give yourself some time off?

Yep I think we're going to go with the Lebanese grandma because she can guarantee us 5 days a week which gives us a lot more flexibility. Even if we don't use her every day at first, it only works out to be about $25 a day (instead of $38 a day with the carer who can only do 2-3 days a week) so even it we're paying for days we don't actually use, it's still cheaper than our other options (it's half the cost of a daycare centre!). And it means that the 5 day a week care will be there if/ when I need it, so I can work 5 days if/when I have to. Which I probably will, so that we can save enough money for me to go on Maternity Leave again in 08!

I would love to start sending him to her 1-2 mornings a week just to get him used to it (and give me a break) but she's really reluctant to take him till he's 6 months old, which is fair enough. It was pushing it just getting her to agree to take him on 2 April (he isn't 6 months till 13 April). So we'll probably wait till mid-March then see if she'll agree to start taking him for a few hours a day, a couple of days a week :fingerscrossed:

beck - no advice sorry just a big :hugs: as I'm having similar hassles with Jet, although he will at least feed to sleep now. NCSS isn't working for us yet but I will keep trying. BUT as much as I hate the idea of any sort of CC techniques, I'm seriously considering doing a 4 day residential stay at Karitane if his day settling doesn't improve before I have to go back to work, because I'll feel sorry for the carer and DH not being able to deal with him! I really hate the thought of 'breaking' my baby's spirit though (which is what CC feels like to me) :gloomy:

di - Welcome back! We've missed you too :kiss: Glad that the move went well!

pam - thanks for posting the link. Definitely something to think about! We just have to check if our carseat is safe to leave rear-facing once Jet is over 9kg (which won't be far off I think). We havent' installed it yet (still using the rental capsule but not for much longer!) - if it can't stay rear-facing past 9kg then it might even be worth swapping it for one that can.

OK gotta pay some bills...talk to you guys later!

suemp
10-02-2007, 11:37
kimba...i havent started kane on solids yet as he is not ready. he doesnt finish his bottles and sleeps thru so he is fine on wat he is getting. but i asked hcnurse and she said not to put farex in bottle anymore as its hard for them to digest. your best to mix it up as the packet says and only offer after a feed as the initial feed is more important.


bec. some days kane is hard to settle to esp if over tired. i find the best is to hold him close just abouve breast and rock softly talking to him. i dont make kane sleep in his cot during the day as their room gets real hot at day time. so i have no tips for that. by bed time at night he is really ready for cot lol

just thought id let you know ive added some new piccies on myspace including jakes first day at school and some pre fat ones of me lol
you can check it out at http://www.myspace.com/suesspace77

ps if you look at my friend list check out "brylie" its the "ex" that im having issues with atm

~Kimba~
10-02-2007, 12:15
Sue - thanks for the tip on Farex I think I'll can it for now. Nice pics I love the one of Jake in his school uniform. Doesn't he look like his mum! Whereas Kane is looking more like Daddy now isn't he.

Checked out Brylies myspace, OMG! what is with all the posing in the undies - does she fancy herself as a lingerie model? :laughing: They aren't even nice bras :laughing:

M~T~J~M
10-02-2007, 12:52
Checked out Brylies myspace, OMG! what is with all the posing in the undies - does she fancy herself as a lingerie model? :laughing: They aren't even nice bras :laughing:

:laughing: :laughing: Was thinking just the same as you!!

Gumby
10-02-2007, 13:01
Omg sue she looks like a *insert word here* hehe.. Hmmm I wonder if she reads ur threads?LOL.
I think ur dp made a wise decision hooking up with you :thumbsup:

GeorgiaAnne
10-02-2007, 13:39
:laughing: What's with th knickers? crikey!!
welcome back di, we missed you and your lovely boy

sare
10-02-2007, 18:02
Hi guys,

Sue you gave me my laugh for the day:laughing:
The photos of your boys are gorgeous. Love the one of Jake in his school uniform.

Beck - :hugs: Sorry to hear that you had such a bad night. Sending lots of sleep vibes your (and Kimba's) way :wizard:

Di - Welcome back. Glad the move went well for you.

~Kristin~
10-02-2007, 18:03
Hi all

Just absolutly loving everyones latest avatars, geez we have cute kids! Must be onto a winning receipe!!:yes:

Just a quick one tonight, still trawling through pages of posts I've missed over the last few days.

Isabella is sleeping better at night again after her needles, and even fell asleep today all by herself. We didn't hear a peep, she just went off to sleep while we weren't looking!

Isabella is off to a Paediatric Ophthalmologist on the 14th, she has had a small white spot on the edge of her pupil since birth, and it stops her pupil from dilating. Apparently her sight is fine, she just cana't see in the dark as well from that eye. I guess we will know more on the 14th... I've been told not to worry about it, but I saw it when they handed her to me in the delivery room and I have to admit that its always a little niggling worry for me. Everyone comments on her big beautiful eyes, I'd hate her to have any problems with one.

Sue - hmmmmmmmm what do I say.... she's no threat! :laughing:

Beck - I hope you get some sleep tonight :fingerscrossed:

Di - Hi! All settled now? We've been in this place for over 12mths and I still haven't finished unpacking.

Will post more later, better go and spend some quality time with DP, he heads off to Melb on Mon until Sat, so once again, it will be just me & the munchkin.

di_matt
10-02-2007, 20:50
Hey all
Hope we all had a great saturday.
Sue: U really are a dag :laughing:

Is anyone seriously thinking of solids yet? Adam hasn't hit 4 months yet and DH is really pushing the issue. I've told him he is perfectly happy and gaining weight, sleeping well and all that jazz so why rush it?
As awful as it sounds I think it is so that he might want to stop b/f. I could be a grumpy cow about DH not supporting me with it but I just do it the underhanded way.....whenever Adam gets unsettled I rub in that he wants his mummies boobies :smiliedance: (nasty nasty mummy!!).

Well in the middle of our moving we had our first real roll as well as full on fits of laughter when I was doing rock a bye baby to him. Not sure if it was the wind in his mohawk (that's all that is left of his hair) or my singing but he only does it for me, so chalk up one more to mummy power... :D Ha ha I'm not really that nasty.....

Well I will head off to rearrange my kitchen cupboards as I'm not at all happy with them.
Night all

suemp
10-02-2007, 21:12
Hey all
Well I will head off to rearrange my kitchen cupboards as I'm not at all happy with them.
Night all

im the dag!!! youre the one spending sat night rearranging kitchen cupboards heee heee
catch up during week

beck75
10-02-2007, 21:19
Thanks for all the sympathy guys!! We have actually had a good day today we have been out to hockey and an early tea and Kayley napped herself when she needed to. as for putting her to bed, I waited longer than normal and read her books in the family room instead of her room, let her watch a little TV and played until she was really tired - when I got her in the cot I sang to her and played the acquarium until she nodded off in about 15 minutes - yay!! She was grinning and everything so maybe she just liked being out??? I dont know - everytime I think I have it worked out it all goes bad again!

Di - I am waiting for solids as long as I can (trying for 6 months but dont think I will get there) - Kayley has a real interest in food now and watches me eat with much interest so I think she is starting to think about it! I am thinking of introducing a bottle of formula milk each day soon though. Kayley is feeding every 2 - 2.5 hours most of the time as I dont think I am producing enough to really satisfy her. She is putting on weight which is good but I think this is why she is not sleeping through. I am taking fenugreek with limited success. A couple of days ago I expressed because she didnt take one side and I only got 40ml out which is all I used to get 2 months ago so I dont think my supply is keeping up with her growth. I have a paed app next week so might discuss with him.

Well I better go and get ready for bed and rollover feed. We are going to get a Dyson tomorrow (on slae at retravision) - hope it goes well.

Best wishes to all of you!

m_jelly
11-02-2007, 07:47
Bec - you will love your dyson. I have hardwood floors and dont need mine, but no way am i loaning my dyson out permanently, it would never come back, everyone loves them!

Abbey just slept from 8-5-7. I went to bed at 11 and got so much sleep now my head hurts. I'm just not used to it anymore, and neither are my boobs.

Thank you for all your birthday wishes, we had a good time at mums. I got a nice break from entertaining abbey 24/7, got fed real food and have uninterrupted me time. Abbey thought it was great too. Was a bit concerned at Grandma changing her pooey nappy and the 6year old's hands appearing with mummy's at bathtime, but blossomed with such an adoring audience. Laughed and giggled at the drop of a hat and chatted away.

re solids - I've been giving Abbbey a half ice cube of fruit puree each night a little while before her bedtime feeds. She loves it. She was getting curious about mummy food and really likes getting these little tastes. We had tried farex but it was yucky and a pain to mix up with breast milk. Such a small amount of fruit actually gets in so I'm not concerned about breast refusal or too much weight gain.

~Kimba~
11-02-2007, 10:50
Hi all *yawn*. My head hurts too Michelle but it's from lack of sleep rather than too much!

Not such a good night - Jet was down at 7.30 and didn't need resettling so I thought we were going to have a good one :fingerscrossed: but DH woke him when he came home at 10.30 :banghead: then Jet woke at 1.50, 3.30 and 5. He kept getting his arms out of his wrap so I think that was waking him? I brought him to bed with us till DH (again!) woke him at 6, grrrr, so I made DH take him for a couple more hours so I could rest.

RE: solids. The only reason I was considering it was to see if it would help Jet sleep better at night, but the doc said it wouldn't make a difference as he's still stacking on weight, so definitely isn't going hungry and clearly doesn't 'need' extra food yet. I'd hate to give him weight issues just so I can get a bit of sleep IYKWIM. I was waiting till he hit 4 months, but I think he can wait a bit longer! I'd like to at least get him started before I go back to work though, to make it a bit easier for his carer, so we'll probably start around 5 - 5 1/2 months

Michelle - glad you had a great time at your mum's. Mine is in Tassie till the end of Feb (trout fishing with Dad) so I am hanging for them to get back so we can go visit and get a little break!

Beck - well done on the nodding off in the cot! I'm able to get Jet to sleep more easily now but only in my arms. Absolutely can't do it in the cot which is kind of doing my head in - but right now I just want him to sleep! so, whatever it takes...

Di - LOL at the mummy power! I have to admit I do that too. I'm the only one who can make Jet laugh, and whenever DH has him he's looking for me and lights up when he sees me, he doesn't do that for DH. I don't think it's just the boobies though! Jet isn't that obsessed with the boobs any more anyway LOL.

Kristin - good luck with the opthamologist - that must be a bit worrying but i'm sure Bella will be OK!

Everyone else - hope you are enjoying your weekends with your beautiful bubbas. I agree with Kristin all the new avatars are great we have a really cute bunch of kids between us! :yes:

suemp
11-02-2007, 12:50
re solids kimba i had a good talk with the hcnurse and she said that they like you to wait till 4 months as some babies cant fold their tongue back to "eat" properly and there has been some babies that have choked. she says the only reason they have moved it to 6 months is to avoid allegy reactions to certain food, but if you keep their meals simple its no problem.
i started jake on solids wen he became unsettled and id made a world of difference. each babies different.
i think kanes nearly ready as he will have a bottle than 10 mins later look at me and grizzle like "well wheres the rest mum" lol

ourfirstbubba
11-02-2007, 16:44
hi girls and bubs

hope you are all well......we are doing fine.....had a whopper of a headache last night just before going to bed at 11pm so I took these tablets I got over the counter at the chemist and my God, they knocked me for six......was the first time I did not hear Natalia through the monitor at 5.30am and hubby got up and fed her....I ended up having another nap from 9.30am until 11am but have been feeling not well all day....not taking these tablets again, they made me feel groggy nearly all day.....

anyway, Natalia was playing on the floor this afternoon and she was trying so hard to roll from her back to her tummy...after a few tries she did! She was so proud of herself..so were we!!!!!!

Re Solids: am up in the air with this one....Natalia has never been a big eater, but she is gaining weight as she should be......she sleeps right through anyway so am thinking of starting in a few weeks......

sorry for no personals, but I have read all the posts and will be back to normal soon...think I am going to have to see my doctor about my headaches as they are coming too often...when I was pregnant they had gone and I was hoping they stayed away, but no luck..

anyway, my Mum is coming round with a roast tonight...bless her.....

have a good night girls and sleep well babies...

xo

~Kristin~
11-02-2007, 18:09
anyway, my Mum is coming round with a roast tonight...bless her.....


Hmmmmmmmm roast............:chef: Can I put in an order???

Damn it, now I'm hungry!!!

~Kimba~
11-02-2007, 20:30
anyway, my Mum is coming round with a roast tonight...bless her.....

:eek: Jeez Mary - I wish you lived in Sydney I'd invite myself around :laughing: I haven't had a roast cooked for me in years! Mum's roasts are always the best. Your mum sounds like an angel - SO that's where you get it from! :angel: Hope your headaches get sorted soon.

Kristin - Now I'm hungry too!

Sue - thanks for that. I keep umming and ahhing about whether to start Jet on Farex or fruit (he loves sweet things - have been giving him little 'tastes' on his tongue). But the only reason I would do it is to see if it helps him (and therefore ME) sleep better, and the doc and ECHN both said it wouldn't make a difference and that he doesn't need it, he's stacking on so much weight as it is. I guess I'll just stick it out a couple more weeks and if/when he starts being unsatisfied after feeds then I'll start him!

He is just so cute though and as much as I hate being woken several times, I do love the peaceful sleepy snuggles when he feeds in the night. At least it isn't freezing cold!

OK got a headache myself so I'm taking some panadeine and hoping Jet sleeps for a few hours more yet before the first 'room service call'...:fingerscrossed:.

sare
11-02-2007, 20:37
Hi all,

I had my first real outing without children in over 3 months today, to of all places a girlfriend's baby shower :laughing: . It was nice to be child free, but boy I must sound boring when all of my childless friends ask me what I have been doing with myself and I really can't say anything except for looking after my girls.

Mum's coming over tomorrow. We'll be doing the usual shopping and then I thought we might head to the local lake so I can go for a walk. I've been really slack with my exercise lately.

Just a quick question for all you cat owners... our cat has just started spraying along one wall in our lounge room. It's being going on for a couple of weeks and we are getting so annoyed with him. He's an indoor cat and is desexed. I think he might have his nose out of joint after being relegated even further down the priority chain now that Lara's here. Do any of you know how to put a stop to this behavior? Any good ideas to get rid of the smell/stains on the carpet would be appreciated too.

Mary- Good idea to get the headaches checked out. Maybe it's hormonal related seeing that you didn't get them while you were pregnant. I hope that it all gets sorted out soon.

re solids - I'm going to hold off until around 6 months. Lara's shown no interest whatsoever in the food that we eat. If she does, then I may have to think about it sooner.

Beck - Another Dyson lover here too. I don't know what we ever did with out it. It is amazing how much dust and cr@p they pick even when you think it's clean. I even use mine on my floorboards (don't know if you're not supposed to Michelle. It's worked well for us so far)

Kristin - Good luck with the ophthalmologist. We'll be thinking of you and Isabella. Gee...here I am whinging when my Dh goes away for 1 night and you've got almost a week without your dh. I hope Isabella is a good little poppet for you.

Sending lots and lots of sleep vibes your way :wizard: I need a good night's sleep too (an early night for a change would be great)

beck75
11-02-2007, 21:17
Hi All

Well sleeping has been going pretty well last 24 hours :fingerscrossed: it continues. I have changed the routine a bit and it is working for the moment.

Glad to here about the other Dyson lovers. I went and got it today and DH turned it on and Kayley started screaming straight away so I settled her and we tried again with the same result!! I guess I will only be able to vacuum when she is asleep (I hope it foesnt wake her) so I havent really had a play yet.

It is our 2nd wedding anniversary tomorrow - DH is working and I havent got him a present yet! Apparently it is cotton so I said he can have some jeans - was supposed to go to the shops today but he was watching South Park/snoozing/playing on the pc all day - actually I am just looking around at all the mess, he hasnt been much cleaning help this weekend so I guess that is what I will be doing tomorrow!

Well I hope everyone has a good sleep tonight.

~Kristin~
11-02-2007, 22:01
We had breakfast this morning with two couples with a 18mth old and a bub 1 week younder than Bella. It was nice having some adult conversation, even if it did revolve around the kids, poo, bf, and all other related topics. But the humidity got the better of Bella and she refused to sleep until we got home to the AC. But she was very kind to her mummy and had a huge 2.5hr sleep this arvo so I feel fantastic!!! :smiliedance: Not going to push my luck tho, going to bed now so I'm rested and ready for the week playing parenting solo.

Kimba & Mary - I hope your headaches have eased off, I suffer from migraines too, so I totally feel your pain! :(

Beck - :yelclap: on 2nd aniversary! Doing anything special?

Sare - I'm holding off on the solids for Bella until 6 mths too, she hasn't shown any interest whatsoever in our food, so I think I'll keep my little noodle on the boob for a while yet!:D

Have a great night/day everyone!

di_matt
12-02-2007, 06:47
Morning all

Sorry to those feeling a little under the weather :hugs: .

Hope everyone had a great weekend.

I think if it wasn't for my dear, sweet, loveable little Adam I would have lost the plot by now. Having DSS here has started causing the rift I thought it might. He hasn't paid us a cent in the 4 weeks he has been here (even though he is working) and I am in trouble for asking him when he was considering putting money in for board, food, phone etc. Plus the $6500 he owes me as I bought his car because he couldn't afford it at the time. Somebody slap me!!!!!! I should say NO, not be conned by DH into believing he will do the right thing.

Sorry, just mighty p****d off. DH has been taking it out on my other kids and is playing no speaks with them, taking Adam off them if they are talking/playing with him. I did my royal banana last night:banghead: :banghead: now I have the headache.

Anyway going back to bed and hopefully will feel better later. Kids have swimming carnival so I said they could stay home & finish unpacking their rooms:laughing: .
Have a great day all.

Love & hugs to all mums & babies

~Kimba~
12-02-2007, 09:16
Still have that headache...didn't help that Jet woke at 10, 12, 1.30, 3, 4.30 and 5.45 & I was finding it really difficult to get to sleep in between :banghead: Seems it's one step forward three steps back at the moment and NCSS isn't really helping (yet!). At least he came to bed with me from 5.45 till 7.30 and has just gone down again (with a bit of a fight) at 9.40. But I am at zero tolerance point today patience-wise :( so I hope he doesn't play funny buggers when it comes to the next naptime I really can't deal with the battles today. At least the rain is nice and cool and soothing - I really don't think I could cope if it was hot again!

I am -->this<-- close to asking my ECHN for a referral to Karitane or Tresillian for a res. stay...but even thinking about having to try CC as a last resort makes me want to cry :gloomy: I just wish Jet could understand that I'm trying to do the gentle thing by him, and cooperate a little bit more!

Di - wow your DSS sounds like a royal pain in the butt and no offence but it sounds like he gets some of it from your DH - how immature to take it out on your kids and using Adam as a 'weapon'! :mad: At least Adam is a little sweetheart for you. I know when I'm blueing with DH it's lovely to take solace in my adorable bubba (even if he is relentlessly sleepless!)

Kristin - it is good to get out and have adult conversation isn't it! I love my weekly Mother's Group for that reason, although in my 'previous life' I never expected I'd ever hear a conversation started with 'So, how's your nipples doing today?' (from one of the mums to another) LMAO

Beck - way to go on the sleep and the Dyson (jealous!) interesting that Kayley doesn't like it - Jet sleeps through me vacuuming I think it's a bit like the white noise I play when settling him. If my DH sat around not helping all weekend I'd be in no rush to get him an anniversary gift especially if he couldn't even get off his butt to get it himself! LOL

Sare - I know what you mean about not having anything to say for what you've been up to. My childless friends don't understand how your entire existence revolves around your LO/s and that you can still feel completely fulfilled!

Re: cat, hmm don't know how you can stop him spraying, it does sound like an anxious/ territory thing - have you thought about getting some anti-anxiety medication from the vet? Citrus oils/ peel are meant to keep them away so maybe if you got some lemon and orange essential oil and put it where he sprays? That's what I did on Jet's playmat, and my puss hasn't peed on it again since. It smells good too!

OK might have a little lie down although I'm sure Jet will be up in 15 minutes...enjoy your days all and kiss those bubbas for me!

kristin5
12-02-2007, 09:35
Another Ryley update:

His operation last Monday went very well. It was a lot bigger op than they had anticipated due to a lot of scar tissue from previous ops, and they had to take out his entire small bowel (to have better access to the large bowel) but it was a success. He was in a bit of pain - they said this was a major operation (even bigger than the one at the start when his bowel perforated and they had to bring out part of it onto the outside of his body). But we brought him back home on Thursday afternoon as he recovered quite well and started feeding fairly close to his normal amounts. They said most adults would've been in hospital for a couple of weeks, but not our little champ :)

I have to take him to visit the surgeon tomorrow so she can see how well his wound is healing and she will tell me then when the next, and final!, operation is (to close the stoma - put the small bowel back inside his body). So the whole saga is nearly over.:smiliedance:

Since he's been back home he is back to sleeping through the night, and is even sleeping a lot through the day (I am waking him up for feeds!). He hasn't been as hungry as he used to be (he was always a very big eater) though that is slowly catching up too. He is an extremely happy little baby, and just loves attention. He is also quite a little chatterer, which is just gorgeous.

2 weeks ago he rolled from tummy to back, a few times, but hasn't done this since (the big incision on his tummy probably makes it harder).

I have spoken to his dietician about putting him on solids, but have to speak to the surgeon about it tomorrow. We at least have to wait until after the next operation, and then it will be a case of trial and error to see what foods he can tolerate (but then every baby goes through this, I think). I have been told that they try and encourage you to hold off until they are 6 months now (not the 4 months it used to be) due to the allergy reason that somebody else mentioned.

A bit of a shock to the system for me today (and from now on). Glenn just got a new job - after 20+ years being a carpenter, he just started a job today as a building superviser and hours are 8-5. I am used to him walking in the door around 2! But it'll be nice to know that he has work every day, and gets paid for holidays, etc. Anyway, Ryley is such a good baby now that I don't really need Glenn's help (not like I used to).

Ryley is probably so good because of all the hospital stays - one advantage of all this mess, I think! I even said last night that if the next baby could be guaranteed to be as wonderful as Ryley, I'd do it in a heartbeat, because it has been very easy. But then do we really want all these health probs again? Plus I can't imagine loving another baby as much as I adore Ryley - I still sit and stare at him for a large part of the day. He is soooooooo damn cute!

m_jelly
12-02-2007, 09:46
Hurrah, Abbey has oral thrush and I have nipple thrush. Good fun! Explains why she has been cranky pants and snacking rather than feeding, and why both my nipples decided to crack at the base and I make virgin nipple faces when feeding again. Dont know how long she has had it, or why i didnt notice sooner.
As soon as she wakes up from her morning nap we will go get some stuff and sort it out. Might have to get dressed first tho, it was bad enough greeting the courier at the door this morning in my bra (bad for him, me, i dont care. They're big, milky and glorious), but i doubt the chemist wants to see too.

Its interesting how just because you're breastfeeding you are no longer indecent (well, at my parents house anyway). I can sit out in the sun there getting some UV nipple rays and nobody blinks. Not even the boychilds.

Lol bec, thats the EXACT reason I dont use my dyson. They say babies get accustomed to certain sounds in the womb, but vacuuming wasnt one she heard very often. Abbey is terrified of it. I thought she was afraid of lions, but no, she just has an intense dislike for them. Vacuums give real fear!

Di - dont envy you darl, youre stuck between a bad word and a bad word and its not fair. No wonder you chucked a narny! Chuck a heavier fruit next time.

Kimba - is Jet actually sleepy all the time and having trouble or is he just a catnapper?

Abbey is a day catnapper, and gets overtired and grumpy but she does sleep well at night, always has. I just make sure night time is really, really boring...During the day I admittedly hyper her up with lots of playtime and giggles. I can't help it, she's my new best friend. And listen, she is calling me. It sounds grumpy, but i know it really means she wants some hugs and kisses and to be called a funny grizzlefish.

Becbabe
12-02-2007, 12:45
Hi guys,

Back from the IL's and my parents and didn't go completely mad once. We had a good weekend all together, she was an absolute charmer for her nannies and poppies! AND... she slept 8 hrs on Friday!! A new record for us. My poor boobies nearly exploded as she had fed every 2 hrs on Thurs night. M_jelly I'm hearing you on that one!

IL's were a bit annoying about asking why she wasn't on solids, why she wouldn't go down in her cot for day naps, why she had to feed so frequently etc. But overall they were very nice. We have both done well with the IL's.

We left Ella's bag at home! Lucky we had the nappy bag well stocked :p

So glad we were late getting away from mum & dad's though (after DP had shorn all Dad's sheep!) as the road we travel on had a nasty storm, trees down everywhere, & was closed for a while as a guy had died when a tree fell on his car. You can't help but think, what if we'd left earlier... that poor bloke.

Georgia, quiche is my copout "bring a plate", we eat it a lot cos it's so easy to make! If you're ever travelling to Melbourne pop in & I'll make you some. :D

Sarah: it's hard to find computer time at home, plus I'm supposed to be selling our wardrobe clearout on Ebay so I feel guilty for not "working" when I am on it!

Lesley, I am holding off til 6 months for solids, mainly because it was so damn hard to get breastfeeding right, she is jolly well going to do it for the recommended length of time! She is very interested in what we're doing with our mouths though.

Sare, love the new pic. Very cute! I love it when I get an hour of baby free (& work free) time, can't imagine a whole day... perhaps even a social life....

Pam, we were just talking about teh baby seats on the weekend as Ella screamed all 1hr40mins of the drive home... but we will be following the recommendations for weight unless she is poking over the top of the seat (she is a tall bubba).

Di, you poor thing, that whole situation is so unfair on you & your kids!! Hope the DSS pulls his head in soon. You are a mummy of steel to be handling it so well! You are entitled to flog the Mummy card! (glad Adam's backing you up lol)

Beck, if we miss Ella's bedtime (like last night) she is awake for at least another hour & doesn't sleep so well. Usually if she is fighting me I'll put her in her cot with the mobile on (at which point she stops crying:confused: ) and leave her until she gets sooky again. Then I rock her again. Sometimes we do this for over an hour! We also feed 2.5-3 hrs daily, but I just assumed my boobs have limited storage capacity. It's not a hassle to feed her that often ATM, so I hope we can make the 6 month mark. Also congrats on the 2yr milestone! Maybe one day DP will propose - don't know what he's waiting for (retirement?)

Kimba, glad you got childcare sorted out. Don't beat yourself up if you have to do the ressy stay - maybe you could talk to a couple of the centres & see what techniques they use? I know some are much more CC than others, and they also teach you heaps of other stuff like alternative settling techniques. My mate went to QE2 at Canberra cos their son was failing to thrive due to sleep deprivation (!) and she was so upset, but it worked for them... whatever you have to do. Your health/emotional state is so important too!

Sue love your piccies - & what's with the knicker shots? She looks like a s***ky h*. Ick!

Kristin, good luck tomorrow. Hope Isabella's eyes are ok. The first few ABA & mother's group meetings I went to i could hardly shut up - the adult conversation felt so good!

Mary, hope you can sort your headaches out. They are not much fun (ladylike understatement).

Kristin5, so glad Ryley is doing so well. What an amazing fella to still be so happy & meeting his milestones! I have also been wondering how I could possibly love no. 2 baby as much as I love Ella. Doesn't seem possible (but my parents seem to have managed it, as I'm no. 4!)

M_jelly, commiserations on the thrush, it's no fun no matter where you get it. Lol at the lack of booby modesty. I used to try & be discreet at the IL's but now I just don't care - they're functional ATM not rude!

WELL that should do for today... sorry :ecomcity:

~Kimba~
12-02-2007, 14:56
:mad: daycare isn't as sorted as we thought. The carer who agreed to doing 5 hrs Mon-Thu and 7hrs on Fridays has now told FDC Admin today that this isn't the case and she wants the 'usual' 8 hrs a day. Meaning an extra $57 a week for us, for care we won't be using (on top of having to pay for 5 weeks' care we won't use to start with, just to get the place, because she won't take him sooner). Granted, it's still half the cost of a long daycare centre, but $57 a week is almost $3K a year...not to be sneezed at especially when we want to have another bubba and want to save as much money as we can for my next lot of Mat Leave. So I've asked FDC to doublecheck with her, or let me know if there's anyone else available...damn why is it when things look like they're actually going to fall into place just for once, it all goes to sh!t?

Please send me some GOOD LUCK vibes I really need them right now...

michelle - :hugs: on the nipple thrush - YEOWCH. I had it when Jet was a couple of weeks old. My doc got me to use Daktarin gel which helped clear it up.

Re: sleep - Jet gets very grumpy and grizzly (to the point of constant yowling) when he needs a nap (usually when he's been up for 1.5 to 2 hours), but fights it when I try to put him down, then usually only catnaps for about 40min. It's exhausting, especially when he doesn't sleep well at night either. I'm sure he's feeling tired too, he must be.

bec - well done on sleeping 8 hours! :yelclap: Share your quiche recipe here? LOL

kristin - great to hear that Ryley's surgery went well and that it's all almost over :hugs: I bet it's a huge relief for you. What a little trooper your son is!

ourfirstbubba
12-02-2007, 16:24
hi girls

hope you and bubbas are all well...we have had a lovely day at home...and its cool, I love it!

Good sleeps again, bless Natalia..asleep from 8.30pm until 5am, then from 5.45am until 8am....also sleeping well today, 1.5 hours, 1 hour and now down for her last nap of the day......

The stove in our investment property blew up the other day so hubby at the moment is there with the electrician putting in a new one...bugger, $600 we didnt want to spend on a stove!

Kimba yes, my Mum is an angel.......god bless ya.....I really hope you dont have to go down the path of CC because I know you really dont want to.....my sister did a 5 day stay at Tresillian centre when her little girl was 7 months old and it did work...I remember going with her...I cried as much as my niece did :gloomy: Also, what a bummer about the carer, hope it gets sorted out for you...

Sare- I so agree with you, as much as I love my single and childless gal friends, they dont get me sometimes........hope you had a nice day at the lake today..I am also holiding off on the solids for a while yet, have tossed the idea around but spoke to a midwife/child educator today who visits us at home once a month and she agreed with the 6 months.......its only 2 months away anyway....

Beck75- Happy 2nd anniversary, hope your hubby spoils you!

Kristin- Natalia hates the heat and humidity too...today is nice and cool and she seems very relaxed and comfy and no heat rash!

Kristin- I am so glad that gorgeous Ryley is going well, what a little champion he is.......

Michelle- you poor bugger, thrush....hope Abbey is ok....what a crack up with the courier man! wish my boobs were big, they are smaller than ever....

Bec glad you had a great weekend with the IL's and your family........

well my little monkey is still asleep and I wanted to take her for a walk when she wakes up but it has started raining again so maybe not........better start cooking hey? or maybe we can get takeaway??? mm, feel like Thai or Chinese!

ciao girls

sare
12-02-2007, 17:02
Hi girls,

We didn't make the lake today...did our usual Monday shopping day at the local shopping centre. Didn't get anything exciting though (salmon for dinner). Next Monday I'm thinking of heading down to Richmond to go to some of the outlets to see if I can get something to wear for the Baptism.

Lara is in bed now...she is such a sticky beak and pretty much refuses to sleep while we are out, so hopefully she'll get a few hours now.

Mary - Bummer about the stove. Thai sounds yummy. It has been years since I have had it. We're having spiced salmon and some steamed vegies.

Kimba - What a pain about the daycare. :fingerscrossed: You'll be able to get something sorted soon. What a shocker of a night you had last night, I hope Jet has been a good boy for you today. Are there any sleep schools that don't use CC as a means of getting babies to self settle? Oh...thanks for the advice about the essential oils. I went and got some lemon today and will rub it on all of the skirting boards around the area where he is spraying.

Bec - :yelclap: What a champ Ella is - 8hrs!!!

Michelle - LOL at answering your door in your bra. Hope the thrush clears up soon.

Di - What a sh*t of a situation. It's totally unfair of your dp to bring your kids into it and to treat Adam like a possession. I wonder if he'd make one of your kids pay board if the shoe was on the other foot? I hope you can sort it all out soon.

Beck - Happy Anniversary. Hope you and your DH had a lovely day.

Kristin - Glad to hear everything went so well with Ryley's op. I really worried about loving #2 as much as Eloise when I was pregnant and thought there was no way I possibly could. Well boy was I wrong, I absolutely adore both of my little cherubs. My dh found it a lot harder to bond with Lara though (he still loved her), because Eloise has such a bright and vibrant personality and just has us amused 95% of the time (I won't talk about the other 5% :p ) whereas Lara just slept and squawked for the first few weeks. Now she is older and doing more, he finds it a lot more enjoyable.

Better go. Little miss has decided that it's time to wake up. She seems to know when it's our dinner time.:p

beck75
13-02-2007, 07:49
Hi All

Kayley has had a good sleep last ngiht but I decided to get up as I was just rolling around. She was a bugger yesterday missing a sleep for a few hours but she ended up going down OK at night.

Well we did nothing for our anniversary :thumbsdown: - lucky I dont put it too high on my list of must does although it would have been nice to be a little bit spoiled! Thanks for the good wishes though!

DH has thrown a sickie today actually so hopefully I get breaky!

Well I better go, some idiot has been grinding next door this morning and now DH is out there playing with squeaky toys with the dog so I am sure Kayley will be up in any second!

~Kimba~
13-02-2007, 07:52
4 months old today! Been up since 5.30am as Jet decided he wouldn't sleep any longer - after waking at 11, 2.30, 3.10, and 4.20. I probably got about 2 hours sleep last night.

Tried to settle him for a nap at 7.30 because he was grumpy and clearly buggered himself, he started arching and writhing and yelling and pushing (he's so strong now it hurts me when he does that!) and I knew I was about to snap :gloomy: I just couldn't handle another battle with him. So I closed the window (to spare the neighbours) and the door and had to walk away - with him absolutely screaming and me sitting here bawling. I figure it's better for him to be upset at being left in his cot than for me to lose it, I'd rather have him scared of his cot than scared of me IYKWIM. He screamed for about 15min and he's asleep now, I think he finally passed out from the distress and exertion :( I'm scared of how he will look at me when he wakes. If there's a different, mistrusting look in his eyes and not his usual 'I'm SO excited to see you' I think I will break down.

I'm really at breaking point right now - this is the lowest I've felt since having him - even with the baby blues and breastfeeding issues, this is rock bottom. I hate feeling this way. I hate feeling forced into leaving him to cry it out and having no other option but to try CC, but I've been trying a no-cry approach for a month now and it's going nowhere. I'm going to ask the doc tomorrow for a referral to Karitane or Tresillian and do a 5 day stay to let them 'break' my baby while I get some rest. I absolutely feel like I've failed Jet :gloomy: and it totally goes against everything I feel is 'right', but I'm desperate. If this goes on much longer it's going to damage my relationships with my baby AND my husband.

I only have a month and a half before I have to go back to work and I want it to be a special happy time with my precious baby. not an ongoing exhausting battle with resentment and frustration building every day.

To top all of that off, the family daycare place has fallen through as the bl00dy carer told FDC she offered it to someone else yesterday arvo, even though she'd promised it to us last Thursday :mad: She told FDC last night that she 'hadn't heard from me' which is total cr@p!!! because I'd already told her we wanted it and I also got FDC to call her yesterday to make the arrangements! (which is when she started stuffing around about the number of hours - hmm). She told FDC to get me to call her, but I can't be bothered calling her to sort it out. She is obviously now trying to play me off against someone else to get the most money/ hours out of it. If that's what she's like then I don't want her caring for my baby.

Sorry to be such a grump but I need to get it out and you guys are the best listeners I know. I'm going to have a shower and a cup of chai and I'll BBL later hopefully a bit cheerier!

Becbabe
13-02-2007, 08:01
Kimba, big big :hugs: to you, you so haven't failed Jet. It takes a really strong person to admit that they've reached breaking point and to ask for help. Jet will still love you! It's not like you'll be leaving him for hours to cry.

I'm sure you've heard all that before but anyway. I'm glad you can come on here to vent, we all want to help!

Also - (self centred topic!) can you pm me the link for that website for the fan noise?

I'm just about to go post that quiche recipe in the "recipes" thread if anyone else wants it. :chef:

sare
13-02-2007, 08:32
:hugs: Kimba. It really does suck what you have been through. I can assure you that Jet will not think any less of you for making him cry it out last night and you have definitely not failed him. I have put Eloise to bed on a few occasions where I have yelled and screamed at her and let her wail herself to sleep and she's woken up in the best of moods and is just like her usual self.

I personally think that you have made the right choice about sleep school, because even though it goes against what you believe and wanted for Jet, your and Jet's health, both physical and emotional, is of the utmost importance.

I wish I was closer to you so I could just give you a hand so you could get some well deserved rest. Good luck with it all.

~Kristin~
13-02-2007, 09:40
:hugs: Kimba :hugs: You do whatever you need to do to get by, only a mother knows what is best for each situation. I'm really lucky, my mum is a trained Karitane nurse, and I'm sure it has been a huge help to us, :fingerscrossed: it works for you! :mad: on the carer, sounds like a cow, don't want someone like that looking after your little man anyway!!

Have to go wake the little noodle up to get ready for baby-yoga, every week she sleeps when I want to go, and every other day she is awake around now..........

Chat later lovely ladies!!

ikis84
13-02-2007, 10:04
Oh Kimba :hugs: I know how frustrated and tired I get when Olivia is being a little turd for a few days - It must be really hard for you with Jet being like this for a month now - or has it been longer? You would not be failing Jet by going to Karitane or Tresillian - you would be doing what you feel you need to do to be caring for him properly. It is obvious that the situation as it is now is not working, and you (and Jet) can't keep it up for ever. I doubt that they would suggest leaving him for ages to cry. While you are there you would not have to do anything that you are not comfortable with anyway - you can take on board the suggestions that you like - if there comes a time when you are not comfortable with thier methods, then you can leave.

I would be so angry at that carer - actually, I am angry at her on your behalf! :mad: :mad: :mad: Grrr... hopefully the most beautiful, lovely, perfect carer will turn up, and it will all turn out for the better!

~Kimba~
13-02-2007, 11:23
Hey friends - thanks for the support. Well 2 cups of vanilla chai latte and a long hot shower later and I feel a lot more human. Not to mention Jet has now had TWO naps :eek: :yelclap:

The second time I wrapped him, gave him a little topup BF, put him in the cot, told him I loved him, walked away and shut the door. He cried for 5min then grizzled, then went quiet, then cried again when he heard DH come home (great timing) and cried/ grizzled on and off for a while, but eventually put himself to sleep. Which he hasn't done for over a month - as you all know, if I leave him in the cot awake he ends up screaming non-stop to the point of vomiting, even worse if I try to go in and comfort him without picking him up (it just aggravates him).

Maybe it's a 4 month thing, or maybe he knows I've really had it! LOL. This time I tried NOT going in to comfort him, and maybe that's what did the trick?

I really don't like leaving him to cry like that but he didn't sound 'distressed' and I told myself that this is what they'll do in daycare! so he needs to get used to it - as hard as it is for both of us, it's better to have him used to it now than later when he's dealing with separation anxiety as well.

Not holding my breath that this will keep working though - it's just what worked TODAY. Still going to get a referral to Karitane or Tresillian and put myself on their waitlist and see how we go...at worst if I go there and don't like it, I will get a bit of a rest and then leave!

Oh and I called the carer who said it was a misunderstanding and she hasn't given the place to the other mum YET - whoever gives her the completed enrolment form first will get the place. So she's got me and the other mum racing to get to her first. Which the FDC Admin aren't happy about as it's against their 'fair play' principles, and she shouldn't play us off like that, it should be first in best dressed (and I was first in). They've actually told me to wait and see if another carer becomes available...so let's see hey. I'm scared that if I pass up this place I won't get anything and then we'll really be stuffed. But I guess I just have to have some trust that something good will happen!

Oops Jet crying I'll BBS for some personals...

di_matt
13-02-2007, 14:17
Hi all,

Kimba :hugs: for you andhappybirthday for Jet.

I know it easy for me to say but don't stress. No matter how little our little ones are I am sure they know how to play us (been saying it since Adam arrived lol). I am sure if you are firm but fair it will work out.

My little "darling" has taken to not sleeping all night atm. He is going down between 7 and 8 still but is up at sometime between 11 and 1. He was soooo out of it yesterday. He fed every hour at least and had only a few minutes nap to recharge. he finally screamed hiimself to sleep at 6.30 after refusing breast & bottle. But today he is a happy chappy again.

anyway, hope everyone has had a good day. Junior has just whacked himself in the face and started screaming lol

GeorgiaAnne
13-02-2007, 14:31
Hi Chicks,
I don't really have time for pesonals but I have read everyones but just wanted to give you big :hugs: Kimba, you have really gone through the wringer. re:cc, I feel the same as you about it BUT from what I have heard it works. Is it better to go through the next however long not sleeping and feeling awful about everything? Is that worse than the effects of cc? I don't think so. I think if you do it and give him all your love every day for the rest of his life it wont have a lasting effect on him as he will have a happy mama who can cope with what the day throws at you! To be honest, I really didn't enjoy motherhood until Sophia was sleeping well at night. Lots of love to you and give me a ring if you wanna chat or meet for a cuppa

Flower159
13-02-2007, 17:09
Hi Everyone - how are you all?

We're doing OK here. Logan has taken to waking up in the middle of the night again and it's killing me - I'm not used to it and I've a cheek to moan (sorry Kimba!) but it's making me really short tempered and I've no patience AT ALL. I also don't think that he's eating enough as he's only taking 50-110mls a feed and it takes me over an hour sometimes to get this much in. I've swapped the teats and the formula to see how we go and nothing seems to work. I've tried diffirent temps and diffirent feeding positions. I've no idea and I've no patience, so I'll just pray to God that he starts behaving! Boys are so much more difficult than girls, I have had nothing but problems since my little cherub was conceived and I feel guilty for saying 'why aren't you like your sisters were' but then he smiles and it's OK for 40 seconds. Ah well, I'll keep at it and you never know, it might get better.

Kimba, I'm sorry love, but you must've been really bad in a previous life. I know it must feel like forever, but hang on in there - this c*ap must end soon for you. Jet won't remember you leaving him to cry and he'll still smile and love you because you're his mummy. I've had to leave Logan crying a few times because I'm so frustrated and he screams like someone's hacking off a leg, but I just need to do it or risk losing the plot. I'm more capable of looking after him when I've had a few minutes to calm down. It's not easy hearing them cry, but sometimes it's the only way that you can break the cycle. Anyway, things can only get better. :hugs:

Di - I'm sure you're right. They know how to play us from a very early age. Logan could cry with me for ages, but if his dad or sisters come in to say hello he stops crying and smiles. This helps my mood no end (as you can imagine - why doesn't he like me??!!?!?) but I just remember that I'm the one that feeds him and he must love me really How's things with the SS (I'll leave the D out!) has he amazed you and made dinner tonight? Maybe we should start a petition to get him out for you .....

Kirsten5 - that's great news for Ryley - he really is a little trouper, isn't he?

Sare - good on you for getting time to yourself. Think if I had some of this I would be wandering round thinking I'd forgot something!! and belated congrats for the weight loss - you must be working hard and it's really paying off. I've managed to put 4kilos back on, so I might try a bit harder myself :eek: (you and Jen can be my inspiration!!)

Need to go, but big :wave: to everyone else. Hope you're all good and enjoying to cooler weather (is my summer hell over??!)

Oh, Bussleton was lovely, thanks for all the good wishes. The inlaws were really nice and lived right next to the beach (which I didn't realise) I'll be back down there soon, that's for sure.

Goodbye all! xx

~Kristin~
13-02-2007, 17:38
Hello!

Have had a great day with the little noodle, baby yoga was great - Bella had a ball. She has slept well today and played heaps and :fingerscrossed: she sleeps well tonight! Off to the eye specialist tomorow, I hope its all good news.

Kimba - I have voted - lets hope Jet can win a nappy comp even if he won't play ball in the sleep finals. :wizard: sleep wishes for you!

Flower - I have put 4 kgs back on too!!!:eek: Whats the story?? I thought BF would help take/keep it off? I'm even exercising more??? :wizard: sleep wishes for you too!

Di - yup, they definatley know when mummy is close to braking point. I'm sure DP thinks I' m nuts and a whinger, he never see's Bella when she is really pushin my buttons.

Kristin - Yay for Ryley! He is going to be such a strong little man, no-one will ever walk over him!

GeorgiaAnne
13-02-2007, 18:30
Hi,
Hope you're all well. I went and visited my brother and sil today as they have just had a baby. He was 3.9kg but felt so small. I can't believe Sophia was that small!
Kristin - Good luck withe the eye dr tomorrow, i'm sure it'll all be fine for your little:angel:
Marion - I hope little Logan goes back to being cheery for you.
Di - Sorry about your ss, sounds like he needs to stand on his own 2 feet. Boys are so much worse than wimen aren't they?
Bec - I'm glad you had a good family time, I bet they are missing bub now!
Sare - IKWYM about not having anything to say. I really have to think ahead when I speak to friends without babies and have other non baby topics thought through! (god, i'm a dag!)
Beck - we didn't really celebrate our anniversary either and it felt a bit flat.
Sorry better go, see ya tomorrow

~Kimba~
13-02-2007, 19:03
Hi mummies,

Thanks for the hugs! Feeling better this arvo although I don't know why as I haven't had a nap yet! I think I've gotten to that really wired, can't sleep now (overstimulated? LOL) point. Will be heading for bed as soon as I'm sure that Mr Jet doesn't need resettling. He didn't nap this arvo (leaving him to cry didn't work a 3rd time, dammit) so he was pretty cranky by the time he went to bed. I hope he's as tired as me and sleeps like a log tonight, but I'm not holding my breath. He has his shots tomorrow, so I'm kind of hoping they throw him into reverse!

Went to FDC Admin today and told them I'm going to go with the original carer who lives around the corner but can only guarantee me 3 days a week for now. But I decided it was more important for me to have an extra 45min with Jet every morning, and having her live so close by really makes that possible. If she can't give me 4 days later then we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. At least she's happy to take Jet for a few hours starting next week (or even all day if I want), so I can have a bit of a break - I really need it - and it will ease him into care - starting one morning a week then working up to the 3 days by the time I go back to work. Now I just have to see how my boss takes it when I say I can't come to the office on Mondays and Thursdays! LOL. I can always change carers later if it's a problem at work, provided another place comes up...

Georgia - congrats on being an aunty! it's funny how little newborns seem isn't it, I remember thinking our bubs were huge! 4 months has just flown by.

Kristin - thanks for voting for Jet in Cloth Idol LOL! it's all a bit of fun, there are so many cute bubbas there. Hope that everything goes well at the opthamologist for Bella tomorrow I will be thinking of you :fingerscrossed:.

Marion - sorry Logan has started waking again - I remember what it felt like when Jet started doing it again (oh that was so long ago now) - it's just awful when you're used to having more sleep. How lovely that your IL's live by the beach, makes visiting much more pleasant! I've put on a kilo or so too. WTF I thought that BFing was meant to melt it off? Better start getting Jet out in the pram more often I think. Otherwise I'll be wearing my maternity clothes to work when I go back :laughing:

Di - ta love. I'm really trying not to stress but it's hard when I'm here alone and have been up all night and baby is screaming - sometimes it just overwhelms me. I think a month of sleep deprivation isn't helping my tolerance levels either! Plus no family nearby to give me a hand and DH is useless when he is here LOL. At least I can start easing jet into daycare and get some much needed sleep. Although I'll feel sorry for the carer if he won't sleep! I hope your SS isn't getting up your nose too much today and I hope Adam is back to his cute 'good-sleeper' self tomorrow.

OK going to bed with some Panadeine to help me sleep and hopefully Jet won't wake me till at least 11 and preferably 1 or 2! (yeh right)

Nighty night...

sare
13-02-2007, 19:45
I hate this time of day :banghead: Eloise is painful because she doesn't want to be in bed and Lara refuses to sleep. On top of that there's the dishes, cleaning up Eloise's mess. I've just had enough so left dh with Eloise, Lara's sooking but not really crying (she wants to sleep but won't give in) and I'll do the dishes after.

We had Eloise's gymbaroo lesson today. I feel like such an awful mum as I took her out when I was pg (the classes were too early) and she just loves it. Oh well at least we're back now.

Kimba - Good luck for Jet's needles tomorrow. I hope they make him nice and sleepy for you. Oh, I voted for Jet too, it's really is a cute photo (your little man is very photogenic). Can you vote for 2 babies? I felt bad not voting for Olivia.
I hope the carer can give you an extra day and then that will be one less stress that you have.

Georgia - Congratulations on the arrival of your nephew. It is amazing how quickly our babies grow and sometimes you don't realise how quickly until you see a newborn and think, how did my baby grow so big and where has all that time go???

Kristin - Mummy and baby yoga sounds like fun. Does Isabella enjoy it too? Good luck for tomorrow.

Marion - I don't want to hear that boys are harder :no: We want to ttc a boy next time around and you might scare me off trying - LOL, especially because we have been so lucky with our girls. I hope Logan is better for you tonight. Wish I had some advice about feeds/teats/formula, but I have no experience with it all - good luck for sorting it all out soon.

Someone mentioned Jen - has she already gone back to work because she hasn't posted for a while. I wonder how she and Sam are going with daycare.

Time to do the dishes and some time on the crosstrainer before I sit down and watch All Saints.

Have a good night's sleep everyone :wizard:

~Kristin~
13-02-2007, 21:26
hehehe Can you tell DP is away this week?? :ecomcity: I'm on the hub every couple of hours, I have no-one else to talk to, especially now Bella has gone to sleep. I should go to bed too... She actually went off tonight, unwrapped, in a sleeping bag for the first time ever :smiliedance: , I just hope she stays asleep, last time I tried this she kept waking up.

Sare - Bella LOVES baby yoga, she smiles like she has the worlds biggest secret through all her stretches and nursery rhymes, and goes a little nuts at the end when we all get up and sing and dance. I actually think she may be laughing at her fool of a mother trying to hold a 'downward dog' or a 'rising sun' :laughing: .

Georgia - congratulations on the new edition to the family! It amazes me how much our bubs have grown in 4mths!!!:eek:

Ok, dragging myself away from computer, ebay, hub and going to bed to listen to the rain.... Bliss!

ikis84
14-02-2007, 07:36
Kristin, baby yoga does sound like fun... I think I should seriously look into doing something like that!
How did Bella end up sleeping without the wrap?

Marion :hugs: hopefully you get your 'good' boy back soon.

Georgia - A lady at church had a baby recently, and I was so amazed at how small the baby was (even though he was bigger than Olivia at birth)... it is so amazing how quickly they grow! Congratulations on being an aunty!

Kimba - I am glad that you have sorted the FDC... sounds like a good plan to me. You will feel like a new woman having a little bit of time to yourself, and getting some SLEEP!

Regarding weightloss/gain... I am still doing weight watchers and am losing slowly (about 500gs per week) however, it is pretty easy because I am breastfeeding so get to eat more. It is so great being able to fit into my pre-pregnancy clothes again! Now I really need to do some work on my flabby muffin top though :o I can't recommend WW enough!

For those that are voting for cloth idol, and didn't vote for Olivia :mad: :laughing: Don't feel bad for not voting for Olivia... that pic of Jet is very cute! I love the dribble patches kimba, they will win you the comp! For those that would like to vote, here is the link.... http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=68956

ikis84
14-02-2007, 07:43
Kimaba, lucy and mummyG.. will you be coming to the meet tomorrow?

~Kimba~
14-02-2007, 08:34
I think it's not fair that Olivia and Jet are in the same round! Thanks for the compliments I think it's a cute photo too. He can be such a poser when he feels like it!

Sydney BubHub meet tomorrow - really depends on how Jet is doing after his needles today :fingerscrossed:, also (as usual) I won't get the car till 11 at the earliest, so we'll just see how we go. If he's doing OK and if DH is home early enough I'd like to head out.

Sleep last night wasn't too bad compared to previous nights - down at 7, resettled at 7.40, feeds at 12, 2.15, a cuddle at 3.45 (no feed) and into bed with me at 6. Up for the day at 7, but was a bit grumpy. He's back in bed now for a little nap before we go to Mother's Group.

Pam - well done on the 500g a week that's great. I really have to pull my finger out and get back to WW, it's the only thing that keeps me on track.

Kristin - how did Bella go being unwrapped? I have Jet's Grobag sitting here and I'm itching to use it but he keeps waking himself up with his arms.

Sare - shame Eloise isn't big enough to do the dishes for you that'd kill 2 birds with one stone :laughing: just kidding. I have to say at least my DH does the dishes every day, so he isn't all bad!

OK better jump in the shower while my little monster is sleeping otherwise we won't get to Mother's Group at all! Have a good day all :)

m_jelly
14-02-2007, 09:11
Abbey sleeps through until 5am on a regular basis now, at least a couple nights a week. The other nights she gets into bed with me around 3am and has a drink and a snuggle. Last night she got into bed with me at 3am and had a drink and a snuggle, and then a conversation and play!! For an hour! I just watched these big eyes looking into mine in the dim light - so gorgeous! I was wide awake too so I didnt really mind, but I couldn't let her know that. :)

Her/our oral thrush is clearing up nicely but she still has a sore looking red rash in her pants so will ask the doc about that tomorrow. Babies can't get actual pants thrush can they??

How did our Brisvegans enjoy the rain yesterday? Lovely, just rained all day. Everything is so clean and green today.
Meant i had to dig out a long sleepsuit last night though - oops, i dont have any in her current size! Guess I'm going shopping today. I went to St Vinnies last week and got a big bag of clothes for $10 but no long sleep suits. None that weren't stained and yucky anyway.

For all our book reading babies - how are they responding now they're older? Abbey wants to feel every page *Scritch scratch* and follows along nicely. She doesn't enjoy it as much as she does watching Baby Einstein yet though, that brings a smile to her face as she recognises the opening music.

Re Weightloss: i dont own any scales and thank goodness for that, thats all i have to say!

Kimba: How long is the waitlist? Hope not too long. What about one of those sleep specialists that come to your house, didnt a few ladies on here have success with them?

I voted in the clothies but its a secret who for.

Abbey is bored eating the tags on her playmat, must go offer something a bit more milky.

ikis84
14-02-2007, 09:57
go oooon m, tell us who you voted for... :) We won't hold any grudges, promise! Gee, Abbey really is frumptastic isn't she! How coot! Regarding thrush, from what I was told, the thrush can travel from mouth to the other end... I would definately go to the doc about the rash, it probably needs a different cream to heal.

Olivia doesn't *scritch scratch* her books, but she does everything else! She has all red marks on her belly from scratching, so does my arm, my boobs *ouch* and when she has nappy free time so does her hooha!

~Kristin~
14-02-2007, 10:16
Ohhhhh noooooooooo, I feel so bad going against Olivia when I voted for Jet. Naughty girl :shame: .

Bella slept all night unwrapped - till 4.50am, quick feed and back to sleep till 7.45am :smiliedance: . But the little turkey won't sleep unwrapped today :banghead: .

Off to opthamologist soon, :fingerscrossed: for us.... I'm feeling sick in the stomach with nerves and worry.

~Kimba~
14-02-2007, 14:10
Back from the docs where my little man had his needles. The nurse (who is really great at doing the shots) wasn't in today, so our doctor had to do it and she kept apologising to him, it was really cute. Once again he barely blinked at the first shot, then burst into tears (real tears, ohhhh :crying:) for the second, but I put him straight on the boob and then he was fine. Didn't even want a drink, just stuck his fingers in his mouth and snuzzled the booby.

And guess what, the little porker weighs 8.1kg! although I want to check him at the EC clinic which is where I usually weigh him, last time there was a big diff between the doc's scales and the clinic.

Now he's asleep and I wonder if he'll sleep all afternoon like he did last time.

Guess what? I got a little bunch of red roses today and a card from DH saying how special this Valentine's Day is, because it's our first as parents :kiss: This from a guy who never buys flowers and rarely gives cards even for birthdays. And we normally don't bother with V Day because our anniversary is in 2 weeks. Anyway it was just what I needed today...so I bought him a case of beer in return LOL and I think I might just have a cold one this afternoon since it's such a sticky day! mmm beer.

Kristin - hope all went well today it's so stressful when we are worried about our bubba's isn't it? I'm sure she will be fine.

Pam - LOL at the scratches on the hooha! :eek:

Michelle - how fab that Abbey is sleeping through! It has got to be Jet's turn soon! Don't know how long the waitlist is but guess what, I was so nervous about Jet's needles I totally forgot to ask the doc for the referral so I'll get it from our ECHN instead. I'd rather go and do a res. stay so I can get some sleep while we're at it, rather than someone coming here. Then I don't have to clean the house either!

beck75
14-02-2007, 15:23
Well I had to look at the cloth idol everyone was talking about and they are all very cute shots. Wasnt sure who to vote for so I picked Olivia to even up the scores (sorry Jet and Kimba)!

Kayley is on her second beig sleep today after 10.5 hours last night - not sure what is going on but I like it!!

Kimba - Jet is a porker - although he doesnt look it in his photos! I hope he is good for you over next couple of days from the shots. I have my last Rotateq this Friday and other shots next week.

As for weightloss, I seem to have stopped about a kilo above what I started on and am fitting into a lot of my old clothes (the looser ones)!! Have got a skirt on today from last year and it is not too tight - yay!! Anyway I am happy with my weight now just would like to tone up - just dont find a lot of time for exercise. Anyway hockey will fix me up in a few months.

Kristin - baby yoga sounds great - I should look that up!

Michelle - I read to Kayley every night and as long as she is not overtired she is grabbing the pages now - funny I went shopping today and she kept grabbing my wallet, ticket at the bank etc (I had her in the baby bjorn)!

Pam - Kayley is a scratcher too - she has it in the habit to scratch/grab/squeeze me when I am feeding!! I tried to cut them again this morning - damn that is hard to do !

Michelle - MHCN told me that bubs often get red bum when they have oral thrush. Actually kayley has a really red bum at the moment and one of my nipples started hirting last night so :fingerscrossed: we are not getting it - might ramp up my inner health tablets.

Well Kayley had her first poo in the bath last night - that was lovely!! Lucky we were finishing up - poor thing I just wrenched her out of there! then while on the towel I put some cream on her red bum and she pooed again all over my hand and the towel - then in the unclosed nappy.....well it was quite a mess and lucky DH was home so he could run and get a spare nappy (and he even cleaned up the bath - thought he was going to spew)!!

Mmmm beer Kimba - sounds great. Everytime I drink Kayley turns into a monster so I am holding off - but it is valentines day.......

Happy Valentines Day to you all and may you all be spoiled (although I am not expecting anything from by busy husband after our anniversary failure)!

Becbabe
14-02-2007, 15:30
Hi guys,

Can't show Ella the cloth idol pics as I'm sure she will feel unfashionable - we use plain ole terry flats for her with matching recycled covers from her Aunty! Largely cos they were free and I'm too tight to fork out for the lovely fitted ones :D

Kimba awww, that's so nice of your DP! Mine really isn't into valentines day (despite much prodding from me) but this morning when I got up to get Ella, he pulled me back into bed for a cuddle & whispered "I love you" in my ear.. and he didn't even know it was V day! So with romance like that day to day I shouldn't complain!Valentine

Weight loss - I seem to have settled at 9kgs less than my pre preggo weight. Think it was cos I was very overweight to start with! Not really trying, just being on a tighter food budget and lots of walking around carrying a 6kg+ baby.

Michelle- Ella has a book every night before bed. She gets bored with the "baby books" and seems to like the rythm of my reading longer stories to her. So I get new ones from the library every three weeks. I love reading to her, it's nice quiet time at the end of the day. But yes she likes to try & eat the pages!

Beck lol at the poo - I have heard it's nearly impossible to get off you if you're in the bath too! nice.

Kristin, hope your appointment went ok.

Better go home & cuddle my little darling (& big darling!)

sare
14-02-2007, 20:08
Hi girls,

The girls and I had a lovely day today. Mum's got the week off work because she's not too well, so we decided to visit her. My brother and his g/f who just got back from their snowboarding holiday in Canada decided to go up to. It was lovely to hear all about their adventures and see all the photos. Little miss Lara even decided that she would have a sleep while she was up there.

Lara has been a little out of sorts today. First we had a wake up call at 3.30am from her having a little party in her cradle. Dh settled her and then she decided she'd keep on partying around 4.30am. I held off feeding her until just before 5 and she's only snacked pretty much since then. Who knows what's going on...I guess it could be the heat.

No Valentine's Day here...we've never really done anything for it. I might ask for a massage later though ;)

Bec - I'm sure Ella looks gorgeous in her cloth nappies. Well done on the weightloss. :yelclap:

Beck - LOL at the poo - I'm guessing I wouldn't be if it was me.

Kimba - Wow 8.1kg. Beck's right, he doesn't look like it. Where does he hide it all? Awww for your DH. It's so nice when they do sentimental stuff like that.

Kristin - Hope all went well today. That's great news about Bella sleeping so well unwrapped. I'm thinking that Lara will be wrapped until she's 21!!! Once those arms are out, sleep time is over and party time begins. :banghead:

Pam - owww on all that scratching!!!

Michelle - I tend to do story time with both girls, so Lara spends most of her time watching Eloise. I really should make a bigger effort to read to Lara by herself.

Tomorrow is Lara's gymbaroo lesson. The IL's are watching Eloise again. When I get home, I'm going to make some rocky road, fudge and rum balls for the BBQ we're having for dh's b'day on the weekend and later gotta go shopping with dh to pick out some sunglasses for his b'day pressie...no rest for the wicked.

Wishing all lots of quality sleep tonight...

Gumby
14-02-2007, 20:22
WARNING!!! MAMMOTH POST AHEAD

HI GUYS. SORRY I HAVENT BEEN IN MUCH, I HAVE BEEN MOSTLY FOLLOWING MY HOBBY OF CLOTH NAPPIES AND THE HUNTER LADYS. I HAVE BEEN READING ALL YOU POSTS AND TO EVERYONE WHO IS NOT GETTING ANY SLEEP I AM SEND SLEEP VIBES YOUR WAY :wizard: .

KIMBA-PAM: I AM SORRY PAM I VOTED FOR JET NOT OLIVIA. JAMES SAID BOYS HAVE TO STICK TOGETHER. BUT I DO LOVE OLIVIA, SHE IS JUST GORGEOUS AND IF I HAVE A GIRL NEXT, I WILL NAME HER AFTER YOUR BABY GIRL LOL (NO JOKE, WE HAD OLIVIA PICKED OUT FOR JAMES).

JAMES IS SLEEPING WELL. 8PM LAST NIGHT TIL 7AM FOR A FEED THEN BACK DOWN TIL 830 THIS MORNING (I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE A ***** SAYING THAT BECAUSE SOME OF YOU ARNT SO LUCKY).
WE ARE IN A GREAT ROUTINE NOW WITH HIM AWAKE AT 830, DO THE SCHOOL RUN, PICK UP A FEW GROCERIES, HEAD HOME AND BOTTLE AND NAP AT 10. AWAKE @ 12 TIL 2, THEN HAVE A BOTTLE THEN NAP. THEN WE DO THE SCHOOL RUN AGAIN AND HAVE A BOTTLE AND NAP @ 6, UP AT 7 FOR BATH, PLAY, BOTTLE THEN BED.
WE SEEMS TO HAVE A GOOD SYSTEM GOING WHICH IS REALLY HELPING WITH MY DEPRESSION BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT I AM DOING ON A DAILY BASIS.
ALSO THE GIRLS HAVE NOTICED THE DIFFERENCE IN ME AND HAVE STARTED EATING ALL THERE VEGIES AND BED IME STARTS @ 7PM WITH A BATH, SPELLING FOR HOLLY. BOOK FOR CHARLOTTE THEN ASLEEP BY 8.

SORRY THIS IS ALL ABOUT ME BUT I AM JUST FEELING SO GOOD ATM I JUST WANTED TO BRAG. I GOT A NEW DIAMOND RING FOR V-DAY AND JAMES GOT A NEW MULTI COLOURED FLAMES NAPPY :D

OK WELL I BETTER RUN FOR NOW, BUT I HAVEBEEN READING EVERYONES POST AND I THINK ABOUT YOU ALL OFTEN.

OH OH I FORGOT TO TELL YOU, JAMES IS ROLLING OVER SO MUCH LATLEY. HE HAS BEEN GOING FROM BELLY TO BACK SINCE DAY 6 BUT HE NOW IS CONSTENTLY ROLLING FROM BACK TO BELLY AND PULLING HIS LEGS UP UNDER HIM AND KICKING OFF. HE IS GETTING SO CLEVER.

OK SORRY THATS ENOUGH ABOUT ME.

KRISTIN- SO GLAD TO HEAR RILEY IS ON THE MEND. GOOD LUCK WITH IT ALL...

BYE FOR NOW.

RIAN

~Kristin~
14-02-2007, 20:29
Hi - update -

Isabella had her appointment with the Paediatric Ophthalmologist today to check her little ‘white star’ on her left pupil. Apparently it is Tunica Vasculosa Lentis.

During eye development, the lens is surrounded by a delicate vascular network of capillaries, the tunica vasculosa lentis. Prior to birth this vascular network regresses to leave an optically clear lens.

In some cases (like Bella’s), the vascular network does not clear completely, leaving behind “scar” tissue. Bella’s “scar” is on the edge of her pupil so it stops he pupil from dilating. If left untreated, her vision in this eye will become fuzzy so her brain will ‘switch off’ that eye and use only the good eye, therefore making her left eye vision deteriorate further, sometimes even blind. :eek:

So we have to go back to the Paediatric Ophthalmologist in 4 months to check that her vision isn’t deteriorating. Worst case, she wears glasses possibly only for a few years or maybe for life, or a patch over good eye at night to help strengthen her right eye, or she may be fine and not need anything. Time will tell…. But for now, and forever, Bella has a special little star in her eye.

:crying: I’ve been pretty upset today hearing all of this. She is my beautiful little girl, and I feel like I have failed her somehow. I know its nothing I did while pregnant, and there is nothing I can do now, but I am still really upset about it all. But at least she is a happy, healthy little girl!

Anyway, that’s what the little white star is, and for now we just have to sit back and wait.

I don't like waiting... :no:

And to top it all off, DP is in Melb so I'm home alone on Valentines Day, feeling miserable.

Ok, cry and whinge done, thanks!

sare
14-02-2007, 20:36
Kristin :hugs: Like you said it is nothing that you have done. Such a nice way of looking at it saying that Bella has a little star in her eye. It's great news about the treatment, that it is nothing invasive. With you on top of the situation, I'm sure that Bella's sight will be fine. :hugs: on DP being away and for not having a shoulder to cry on. I'm sending you a block of cyber choccie (not nearly as good as the real thing, but the thought is definitely there)

Rian - That's great news that you are doing so well. Wow on the routine. I still don't know what Lara is going to do from day to day.

ourfirstbubba
14-02-2007, 20:45
hello girls

Happy Valentine Day! Hope you have all been spoilt my partners/hubbies......I told my hubby not to buy me anything this year, every year he always buys me flowers...I told him the best gift was his unconditional love and Natalia (I used to write for Mills and Boon! ha ha ha !)......anyway, this morning after I got out of the shower he had left a beautiful card and a box of choccies on the bed.....he is such a sweetie...tonight we went and got Vietnamese takeaway and a bottle of wine and went to the beach with Natalia and ate ...it was lovely.....this time last year we were barely pregnant....

Marion hope Logan is okay and sleeping better for you..glad you enjoyed your time away....how nice to live near the beach....

Kimba I am so glad that you have worked out which carer will care for Jet....also with a residential stay.....you have not failed Jet at all...the little munchkin needs to learn to sleep and these people are trained to do that...he will be fine...my sister had to do the same with my niece but she was 13 months old, at least he is still quite young and his sleep habits will change and you will feel like a new woman....:hugs: to you...I think of you every morning and wonder what your night has been like.....you are doing a fabulous job and he is beautiful.......(ps, I voted for him..sorry Pam.......) and your hubby is a clever man for spoiling you, you deserve it sweetie xo

Sare I love the photo of Lara in her avatar......

Kristin I hope the appt with the opthamologist went well....and that you arent missing your hubby too much!

Pam If I lived in Sydney (even Gosford) I would meet up with you...Newcastle is just a little far to meet for a coffee!

Michelle I love it when Natalia just stares at me as I am feeding her...and then she smiles and I melt, even at 5 in the morning...how can those books say to not stimulate them or look at them???? ps, I love the rain...its bliss...

Bec I am waiting for the poo in the bath! We read to Natalia everyday and she loves it (I am a schoolteacher so love books!)...her favorite one is Always and its about a Mumma bear telling the baby bear that she will love him forever......so cute....

Bec am sure Ella is just gorgeous in her terry towel nappies...we grew up in those!

Sare get offline and get that massage

well we are off to bed (no none of that, am still finishing my monthly visitors)....sleep well girls and bubs and talk tomorrow
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xo

~Kristin~
14-02-2007, 20:47
[quote=sare;1114520] I'm sending you a block of cyber choccie (not nearly as good as the real thing, but the thought is definitely there)
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Awww, so sweet, made me cry all over again!!!

I really appreciate every one of you beautiful ladies in our group!!:hugs:

ourfirstbubba
14-02-2007, 20:48
I just read your post, oh sweetie, she will be fine...my sister has gone through a similar thing and her little 5 year old wears glasses, but she is adorable regardless and the kids at school think she is cool (her glases are purple)...time will tell and she is healthy....chin up sweetie...

xo

lucy72
15-02-2007, 05:59
Hello Ladies,

So sorry for not writing much lately but i have been on and reading every so often to keep in touch!

Pam, I was going to the meet today but I just can't. I have been so busy over the past 3 weeks with appointments and things that I need a day at home - even though I have an appointment this morning. I am buggered. I have not been sleeping well (jordan is sleeping brilliantly so don't know why I am not!!!) just need some me time. Sorry next one promise (well depending on location etc).

Kimba, maybe I could take Jet for a night and you can have Jordan and so the sleepers and non sleepers are together! LOL. You really seem to be having a hard time of it all. My girlfriend just had her 2nd bub and she has told me the second is so much easier. This comes from a person who was never going to have children and had "issues" with her first. Hang in there love. :hugs:

Rian, glad to hear things are looking up for you and seems the medication is working for you.

Kristin5, glad to hear Ryley went through his op well and is on the way to feeling good.

Sare, your stories of your two make me smile. Eloise and Lara sound so cute. Everytime I am Coles I smile at Eloise. She sounds like such a cheeky monkey!

Kristin, glasses these days are not like when we were at school. They are so trendy - I guess like braces (my DSD got purple ones put on!!!). There is nothing you have done for this to happen. Your bub will be fine.

Bec, how funny with the poo! Haven't had one of these although my DH baths Jordan every day. Waiting for the call for it though...

Georgia, the wedding is at Mandalay House in 2 weeks time. It will be my first full day without Jordan so am getting a little worried. Glad to hear your wedding went well. Looking forward to seeing some pics.

To everyone else, hello and hope you are doing well.

Things are okayish here. Jordan is good, but now out of a routine. I think the only one he has is a sleep from about 9pm to about 8am every night. His day sleeps are another issue but are out of whack as I seem lately never to be home so it is usually a case of Jordan being so tired and then I put him in the car and he nods off about 2 minutes from home. When I put him into his cot when I get home he is wide awake and doesn't go back to sleep which leaves a grumpy bub.... He is also getting his two bottom teeth and I think these give him grief as well.

Today I have a hairdresser appointment then was going to go to the big meet here in Sydney but I really think I need to sleep, so Mum is coming back with me and she is going to look after Jordan for an hour or two.

Well my dears, am going to be off and get ready to take Jordan to the hairdressers.... Have an appoimtment at 9:30.

Hope you are all well and Pam will catch up again soon.

Lucy

di_matt
15-02-2007, 07:09
Morning All

My darling baby is gone and has been replaced by an owl that won't shut up lol. I spent 2.5 hours at 2am listening to whooooooooo whaaaaaa whooooooo eeeeeeeeghhhhhhhhhh. He was so happy it was hard to be mad, but gee my eyeballs are tired this morning:sleeping: . He woke back up at 6 still having the same conversation. Here it is 7.05 and he is still lying on his mat telling his teddies the story - until he spies me and then he tells me. He has told the other kids his story at least once each lol. Hope he is this good all day. We are going to an ABA meeting about introducing solids. I don't think they want to hear his story lol.

I hope everyone had a lovely Valentine's Day . We met up with another bub and two 7 month pregnant ladies from our area for lunch. Adam managed to charm everyone by being cheeky and smiling like he doesn't have a problem in the world.( Come to think of it if I had someone to feed me, hug me, carry me, change me and love me on demand I guess I'd be pretty happy too!!!:laughing: )

Anyway all I am off to have a shower before he decides a feed migth be good.

Have a lovely day all:hugs:

~Kimba~
15-02-2007, 07:17
Count me out for the Sydney meet today too, am just too exhausted and have a stinker of a headache :no:

Have pretty much had no real sleep since 2am because Jet's been up & down constantly (every 15-45min) from 2 till 6. Every time I'd settle him, get back to bed & I'd be almost asleep myself, he'd wake again. At 6 the poor possum woke crying and wouldn't settle nor come to bed with me, so we've both been up for the day since then. Silly, silly me for hoping he'd react to his shots by sleeping them off! He did sleep last night from 8.30 till 2 though, which was great, although it got my hopes up way too much I think! heh.

He's still awake now, and refusing both breast and bottle, I've even given him Panadol which hasn't helped. I'm trying to get him back to bed so he can feel better and so I can have a nap myself, although its futile really, he never sleeps for more than 40min in the day so by the time I fall asleep he's awake again! LOL

Jet says THANK YOU to everyone who voted in Cloth Idol and for the compliments. He might not look it in some of the photos, but he is the porkiest bubba in my local Mum's Group now :laughing: with a huge butt (it's not all nappy), chubby cheeks and sausage limbs! If you see him in person he definitely looks (and feels!) all of his 8.1kg. People think he's 6 months old! It's also holding him back from rolling (so the ECH nurse says) because he's so heavy in his back end it's too hard for him to fling himself around LOL!

Di - we have an owl in this house too - only at the moment it's more like a screech owl than a hooting one LOL!

Lucy - sorry to hear that Jordan is still so unsettled what is up with these big boys hey? You don't really want to swap, believe me, I love Jet to bits but wouldn't wish this on anyone else!

Kristin - big :hugs: the problem with Bella's eye must be so scary and worrying for you especially with your DH away. But you are a great mum, it's not your fault, and like someone else said it's great that they should be able to fix it without any invasive procedures. I love the way you call it a little star in her eye. They have some really cute glasses for little ones now and I think they look very groovy.

Mary - your DH sounds very romantic. Yum Vietnamese takeaway!

Rian - you sound so much happier it's great to hear! Jet could certainly learn a thing or two from his BubHub 'cousin' James...nicely done on the new diamond ring too! :yelclap:

Sare - glad you had a lovely day at your Mums and sorry Lara is a bit out of sorts I think the heat and humidity does it - all the bubs at Mum's Group yesterday were whingy and clingy.

Oh cr@p Jet is bawling now - I was hoping he'd settle but it's getting worse so I gotta go. The hard thing is that all he needs is his mummy, but his mummy doesn't feel very nurturing today because she's too tired! Poor little bugger.

Hope you all have good days today!

~Kimba~
15-02-2007, 07:36
Oh had to pop back - just got this morning's parcel mail delivered, I bought Jet one of those Bumbo seats because he's been desperately trying to sit up so I thought it might amuse him.

Well speaking of porkiness - his legs barely fit through the leg holes! :laughing: And because he's all squished into it, I had to undo his nappy so that it didn't cut into his belly when he's sitting there (like when you have to undo your jeans after a big meal) :laughing:

I reckon he'll get about a week's use out of this before he's too fat. Anyone want to buy it? let me know :laughing:

beck75
15-02-2007, 10:37
Well DH bought me home some sunflowers yesterday which was nice (esp when I wasnt expecting anything).

Rian - you sound great - diamond ring sounds lovely too! Glad to hear you are ina routine. Kayley is still all over the place in times but we are mostly doing the feed play sleep thing.

Last night she was a bugger - up every 2.5 hours for a feed - I hope it is a growth spurt!! She had 2 nice long sleeps yesterday though but wouldnt go down for a late afternoon nap so she was pretty ratty from about 5 until I got her to sleep at about 9!

Kimba - looks like Jet is in the equal lead in your cloth idol! LOL about the seat! Kayley is probably the second biggest at mothers group but she is also the equall oldest so it is hard to tell (our mothers group was delayed over xmas break so we have a v aried age group). Kayley doesnt roll yet either - I think her extra weight doesnt help!! Did someone say something about bad sleepers and good eaters???

Di - you must both love and hate it!! I love when Kayley googles and gargles but when she should be sleeping it does get a bit frustrating - but it is sooo cute you cant get angry (better than crying) - actually I can hear Kayley talking to something in her cot now - wont be long till I have to get her up!!

Lucy - another one with teeth - wow! I think teeth will be the end of my bf days for me but would be interesting to here how everyone goes with feeding! Kayley is really starting to watch me eat now - even reaching out - so I dont think I will last to 6 months before starting food!

Kristin - I hope everythng goes OK for you!! A lot more kids wear glasses these days (I was the only one at school with glasses for years as a little kid so I found it hard but they are much more common and cuter frames these days) - I even got the braces as well - what a lovely look and now I have crooked teeth again anyway! It is good that you have found it as it could have been much worse if you didnt!

Well Kayley is getting louder and I just heard a huge fart throughthe monitor so I am going to investigate - best wishes to all of you!!

Jeffy
15-02-2007, 13:07
Hi guys. I am still here!

No time to post much but I have read it all and :hugs: :kiss: to who needs it. Long story short; I am not back at work yet but my dad is over from WA and staying here with my step-mum. Dad has been helping me clean the yard up and put up a new clothesline and things like that (DH was supposed to do it and I have been wtihout one for about 1 year) I asked my dad to chuck DH out the other night because he called me some nasty names and things are not going too well. He is off overseas for a week, so the break will be good. I can't really say much because it turns out he does read my email and I am sure he will be on here to read this too.

Anyway; Sam loves creche, is a big boy and has started solids (mush!) and I went in to meet my new colleagues and things are going well there. Sam is also sleeping very well. I am interested in going to fitted cloth nappies, so can anyone please point me in the right direction?

Will post again once DH leaves on Saturday!

GeorgiaAnne
15-02-2007, 13:44
Hi girls,
Just a quickie and will bbl.
Here is a cute photo of Sophia and new cousie, he was screeching in her ear hence puzzled expression.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/83823904@N00/389012584/

see ya

M~T~J~M
15-02-2007, 13:50
:wave:

I spent my 'computer time' last night catching up on all the posts, and thought while I had some time to myself today - kids in daycare!! - that I would catch up!

Jeffy - My DH is a little slack about getting things done around the house too...we had sandbags sitting here for weeks waiting for him to dig out the kids sandpit and fill...his mum got sick of seeing them stil full each time she came around, that she decided she would dig it out and fill it!! She even put up some shadecloth for them!

Beck - Lucky you getting some flowers. It was 10.30pm last night and I said to DH, "Well, Happy Valentines Day then". I didn't get much of a response either.

Kimba - My sister has just purchased a Bumbo seat for her new arrival - which will be here on Monday - I had never seen them before so I had a look on the website. I want one too!! Jarvis has some serious chub on his legs though, so perhaps he won't fit in one either? I am really feeling for you and the whole sleep factor. It's so hard to cope when one is so tired, and I don't know how you do it. I was reading 'Save our sleep' last night out of curiosity and it has some good ideas in there. Have you read it? Some sleep schooling does sound like a good idea anyway. Hope you find something that works for you both really soon. Oh, I'm :mad: for you too about the whole FDC situation. :fingerscrossed: all can be sorted really soon.

Kristen - Big hugs to you and Isabella. All will be ok. I have been wearing glasses since I was 4 yrs old, so I don't remember any other way. If it ends up that she will need them, it will be her way of life, just like eating, iykwim?

Mmmm, well it's DS#1's 4th birthday on Sunday. We are having his party at McDonalds on Saturday, and have invited a couple of his little mates from daycare. He is really looking forward it, so hopefully he has a fun day! I am making his birthday cake request - a hedgehog (the slice) cake with a lightning mcqueen picture on the top. I am just going to make a huge slab of hedgehog, then place the pic on top, with choc iced around the egdes. I really hope it works out the way I imagine, as I don't feel like spending the $45 Michele's Pattiserie were going to charge me.
DH has his 3rd stage interview process for his mining job on Tuesday. We are still undecided about what we will do if it's offered to him, but I guess we will cross that bridge when we come to it.
And some very exciting news for me!! My older sister is having her 2nd baby on Monday!! Although she lives interstate, we are all very excited and can't wait!

Well, have a lovely day girls. I'm now going to do NOTHING!!

m_jelly
15-02-2007, 14:49
We just got back from Abbey's 4month shots. Poor bubs, cried and screamed but cheered up before we even got in the car. Didnt even need a titty-kiss. In the car she went straight to sleep until we pulled in the driveway and is now lying on the floor eating her toys.

I gave her a dose of panadol before we left as a lot of mothers do, but the doc said it was better to not give panadol at all unless they were actually in pain/feverish later as it makes the immunisation slightly less effective. Not sure how accurate this is, justs reporting the conversation.

Also picked up canesten for her pants rash poor thing. Her oral thrush isnt clearing as fast as i would like and will probably need a second bottle of meds cos she just throws up or dribbles out most of what gets in. Its working, just very s l o w l y.

Jeffy - big hugs to you. Totally understand how difficult this time can be. Your DH should respect your independence and privacy and not be so controlling.

I gotta go tell my big girl how wonderful she is, bbl.

lucy72
15-02-2007, 16:20
Hello - 2 posts in one day!!! My goodness....

Kristin, :hugs: to you. Sometimes a break is what we need. I know when I went away from work my DH would be so loving towards me when I got back (lasted about a week!! LOL).

Kimba, I am serious, if you want me to come over and take jet for a bit so you can rest just let me know. Jordan and I can come over for a day and you can rest or you can come over here and I will look after the two of them so you can rest. You need some well earned sleep hon.

m_jelly, everyone has their opinion on panadol... who knows??? I give it to Jordna before his shots to calm him and so he will sleep a bit afterwards. Not sure if it helps or not, but it does help me!

Georgia, Sophia is going to be a great big cousin! How cute!!!

Well the toth has finally cut through and I found out as he took my index finger and bit it!! Am used to gums but this hurt - sharp little things! this is the one time I am glad I have not breast fed - it would hurt!!!

Well am off to do dinner... Kimba you keep this post in mind. My Mum is great with kids and we can even work out a date that she can come along and help. She used to work at Karitane.

Chat soon
Lucy

pinkone
15-02-2007, 16:53
very new here, not sure how this all works but my baby girl was born 17th Oct 06

GeorgiaAnne
15-02-2007, 16:55
Hi,
Lucy - :wave: I was wondering where you'd been. Enjoy the wedding and the break from bubba. Who's looking after Jordan?
Michelle - Isn't Abbey a good brave girl She is very luicky to have you as a mummy, you sound so loving towards her.Valentine
m,t &j's mum - Congrats on becoming an aunty again, it is very exciting! Good luck with the cake who / what is lightning mcqueen??
Jen - Sam sounds like he is doing so well, that is great to hear. Look forward to hearing more from you.
Beck - I found the same with Sophia and food and she has taken the solids really well, just rice cereal in the evening. I bet Kayley will love eating like mummy and daddy! How lovely with the sunflowers from your dh, they are so cheery.
Kimba - Big hugs to you love. I can't wait to get on here one day and read about your mammoth sleep, one day very soon. He's a lucky boy to have you, I would have carted him off to Tresilian by now:laughing:
Di - The talking is so cute isn't it? I have noticed Sophia's talking has really changed in the last few days and is more 'wordish?'
Ourfirstbubba - That sounds lovely, your evening. Unconditional love is the best :D
Oops better go to me lady..
bbl

GeorgiaAnne
15-02-2007, 16:57
Hi Pinkone :wave: welcome. Feel free to post and tell us whatever you want. October girls are the best :thumbsup: It is a nice place to share, vent or whatever with people who are going through the same thing.

pinkone
15-02-2007, 17:02
my little one had a stop breathing episode a couple of weeks ago and spent 2 nights in hospital, they said she could've chocked but her rolled in the back of her head and her whole body went limp, on the way to emergency it happened again and took a jiggle to get her breathing. has anyone has a smililar event??

~Kristin~
15-02-2007, 17:20
Hi Pinkone, welcome to our great group! Bella hasn't ended up in hosp, but we have had to jiggle her to start breathing after her monitor alarm went off. In fact I had to do it twice last night!:eek:

Ladies - I'll be back for PP's later on, just wanted to say big thanks for all the support after my little lose-it yesterday after Bella's apt. Have decided to be postive and strong for my DD, her eyesight WILL be ok!!!!!:thumbsup: And if not, she will look cute in glasses and who knows with medical advancements, there could be something just around the corner :fingerscrossed: .

GeorgiaAnne
15-02-2007, 18:27
Pinkone - that must've been very scary for you. I hope it's all ok now for you.
Kristin - Aren't you fab:thumbsup: for being so positive, that is great to hear. I wore glasses from a young age too. It is amazing what advances there are so you never know.
Miss Muffet is asleep which is odd for this time of the day, not that i'm complaining, she is such a cutie pie.
Kimba, I have started putting Sophia in her grobag just with a nappy on and then doing the muslin wrap as usual on top, it seems to be working well and in the am when she has a bit of a kick, she doesn't get cold feet etc from kicking the blankets off as she always used to.

~Kimba~
15-02-2007, 19:10
Hi all, just killing a bit of time while I wait to see if Jet needs resettling (he has a habit of going to bed then needing a resettle 40min later before his 'real' sleep).

For those starting solids - I tried giving Jet a bit of Farex the other night and he was very keen, mouth wide open and sucking it off the spoon, but couldn't swallow it, most of it ended up down his chin. So, not quite ready yet I think.

Kristin - I don't think you lost it at all - I think you handled it very well all things considered! (I certainly lose it a lot more over Jet not sleeping). I can imagine how worrying this is for you. You have every right to be upset and I'm just glad we can be here for you! Big Hugs to you!

Pinkone - welcome! Great to have another October mummy on board. What's your little one's name? Is she your first? That must have been so scary for you when she stopped breathing, you poor mummy! :hugs:

Georgia - LOL at that photo of Sophia with her cousin, it's just priceless, the looks on both of them! Jet had a clown nightie like that put on him when he was born (after that I always grabbed the white ones - not a clown fan! LOL)

Lucy - wow the tooth cut through! I've been checking Jet's every day but not through yet. Thanks for the offer of help, you're an angel :angel: I certainly will keep it in mind, might be good to come visit and have a little nap while the boys 'play'! Even better if your Mum can help me with some ideas for settling Jet.

michelle - sounds like Abbey handled her shots like a trooper. Hope her pants rash clears up soon!

Sarah - have read 'Save Our Sleep' bits and pieces on the website. The thing is I know what to do in theory - in practice it just doesn't work on Jet! LOL. Nice one on making the cake Michel's is a ripoff isn't it!? good luck for your DH. I keep telling mine to apply for a job in the mines, we'd love to move up Mackay way, but he has no background or experience in that area at all so he's got buckley's of getting anything I think :laughing:

Jen - wow Sam is such a big boy now. Sorry to hear of your issues with DH, sounds like the little break is very timely to give you both a bit of space - I hope things work out for the best, whatever that is. Shocked that he reads your email though that's a bit out of bounds :shame: glad that your Dad is there to give you a hand. Good on ya Dad! Oh and re: cloth nappies I will PM you, I can bore your pants off with what I know about it LOL!

Beck - how lovely to get sunflowers they're such happy flowers! I hope it was just a fart and not a massive poo-splosion. Jet's the youngest at Mother's Group but the biggest now, it's a bit embarrassing really LOL.

Oops there goes Jet, no thanks to DH who just called out and woke him GRR. Let's see how he sleeps tonight!

M~T~J~M
15-02-2007, 20:13
:wave:

Mummy G - Lightning McQueen is the fastest racing car on the new Disney movie "Cars". My boys are obsessed with the movie, it's cars this, Mcqueen that, lol!

Lucy - :smiliedance: on the tooth! I hope Jordan didn't give you too much grief over it. I haven't had any troubles previously with DS1 and DS2, only knew they had teeth when they showed up, so hopefully Jarvis will be the same. And, yes...it does bl00dy hurt when the little ones use their fangs on you whilst breastfeeding!! DS2 - Tallan - did this to me on a number of occasions, and he was very quickly changed onto formula, lol!

Pinkone - Welcome to the group!

M_Jelly - Hope Abbey is still coping well with the immunisations. Re: The panadol beforehand....I gave both my boys panadol before their needles, nobody told me not to. I didn't give any to Jarvis for his first lot though, and prob won't before his next lot on Tuesday.

Kimba - I know what you mean about things not working for Jet!! I have been reading this book "Why don't my children listen", and do you think anything out of that is working?? Lol!! Here's some extra special :wizard: for a good, or better, nights sleep for you.

Watched Saving Babies tonight. Did anybody else? I think I was crying only two minutes into it. It really is amazing what can be done to help save our little ones these days.

Off to bed early tonight, I have the whole restless leg thing going - which I only usually get when I'm pregnant :eek: Hope it's just cos I'm tired!!

m_jelly
15-02-2007, 20:37
hmm, last needles Abbey cried and cried and then was fine. This time she cried and was fine and is now a big grizzlefish who has spent the last 4 hours drinking, crying and then puking. Poor thing just doesnt feel right. she's sleeping now, and I'm just waiting for enough time to pass that I can pull her arm out from under her without starting up again.

That Saving Babies show is on right now. I'm not watching it, i cant watch sick babies, never could. Can't watch shows with clowns either, but for different reasons.

My big bubba has been officially labelled 'fat'. Doc wrote in her health book that she was above 97percentile, outside normal ranges, and had to be monitored. Two people in the last week have asked if she has lost weight and 4 people have called her fat. Poor thing will get body image issues before she can talk!

Have to laugh at the bumbo purchase - theyre expensive. They should say they dont suit chubby bubbies! Cant take it back to the store?

I'm currently attempting to save some money by sewing my own summer sleeping bags. So far I've constructed what looks like a nighty for a 7 year old. Yes, I am following a pattern. For babies. Fortunately the fabric was free and its only my time I'm wasting. Maybe I'll keep it for when she IS 7! :)

Re talking - This week its all about the word sounds. I watch her tongue move around in her mouth as she carefully makes wordy sounds, its fascinating. I swear yesterday she said "Hello", or a baby version thereof. I wouldnt be surprised, I'm always saying it to her. Dont think it counts unless they say it again on purpose tho.

sare
15-02-2007, 21:02
Hi all,

Just a quick one as I am in the middle of making some fudge for dh's b'day bbq in the weekend (ran out of sugar so dh has gone up to the shops).

In the last couple of days Lara has discovered that she can take out her dummy...hope she learns how to pop it back in very soon or else I am going to go crazy...

Michelle - I hope poor little Abbey is ok. I give panadol to my girls before immunisations, never had any problems with them so I will probably keep doing it. I'm with you on not watching saving babies, even though all the babies ended up ok, it's still not something I'd like to watch and on the whole clown thing, ever since I saw Stephen King's IT as a teenager, I've never looked at them the same again.

Sarah - Hope the leg is feeling better. I think Michel's is a rip off too. I got Eloise's cake for her 2nd b'day from there...never again. If you're in Melb, there's a great factory outlet that does cakes and finger food in Bayswater. It's cheap and all the cakes we have got from there have been divine.

Kimba - Poor Jet. I'm dreading these 4mth needles after hearing all of your horror stories.

Jen - Sorry to hear about your problems with your dh. Hopefully the break will do you both the world of good.

Gotta go. Dh has arrived home with the sugar.

beck75
15-02-2007, 21:08
Hi All

Just on for a quick hi!

Michelle - LOL at your chubby bubby!! Once she gets moving I am sure she will come down a bit. Kayleys weight gain has slowed down now so it looks like she will stay around the 90th percentile ish.

Kimba - those seats look great! Kayley is still to mater her sitting - she can sit unaided for a little bit then usually ends up falling forward and squeeling once it becomed uncomfortable (after a quick play with the toes first) or sometimes she goes sideways but I think she is doing very well for her age (although she still wont roll)!! Kayley has chubba legs so I dont think I will worry with that seat!

Hi and welcome Pinkone - stopping sleeping must be scary - and Bella had a few episodes as well - that is scary!! I dont have one of those monitors that does the breathing thing but now I feell like getting one (although I think SIDS highest risk ends at 4 months).

Well I gotta run - I hope everyone has a good sleep!

beck75
15-02-2007, 21:11
Oh and I forgot to add on the immunisations I gave Kayley panadol last time and I told the doctor who administered it and she had no conerns. She is part of a research group and goes around immunising babies all the time so I wouldnt be too concerned about it.

It was interesting though that the MHCN said that if your bubs has a fever, do not give them panadol unless they are really uncomfortable as well as the fever works to kill of the bug and it takes longer if you supress the fever - maybe that is related to what your doc was saying?

Anyway I gotta go!

m_jelly
15-02-2007, 21:29
Oh dont worry too much about what my doc said, i gave Abbey panadol just before anyway. He also poo-pooed my taking Abbey to the chiro, but mother knows best (usually).

di_matt
15-02-2007, 21:38
Hey All

Sara: Adam takes his dummy out too, but he holds the nipple end and shoves the handle in his mouth.

Welcome pinkone, what a shock for you.....

Well we went to an ABA meeting today on introducing solids. It was good but so funny. Adam decided he was going to play social baby. He spent the whole time trying to talk over the top of the poor lady who was talking. When she stopped he'd look over and smile. Then we 'cruised' the room and he "talked" to every baby and generally showed off more than any child I have ever seen. Dh swears that he says Mum on a regular basis. To be honest when he wants his boobies that is exactly what it sounds like.

Bit of a bugger today got my period back......bit sad Adam isn't even 4 months until Monday :laughing: Oh well. atleast I know I'm not preg lol

Well all off to watch RPA. Hope you have a good night

Becbabe
16-02-2007, 08:10
Hi everyone,

Well Ella has discovered a new noise. It's a very high pitched, lasting scream. And guess when she likes to do it... that's right, just before bedtime. She keeps herself awake! Hopefully when the novelty of being able to do it wears off, she won't do it for half an hour before sleeping...

Pinkone, hi! Welcome to our group, we are very chatty in here. Yikes on the not breathing... that must have been so scary!

Di, lol at Adam taking over the ABA meeting! Ella has done that too but unfortunately she preferred to drown our counsellor out with yowling. Boy I miss my ABA meetings (can't take the time off work to go to them). But at least I am going to mother's group in my lunch hour today.

M_jelly, Ella was the same with her 2nd needles! Slept all day first time, then grizzled lots and had a very unsettled night this time. Both my GP and the nurse said to giver her panadol beforehand. But as she never swallows it anyway it's a bit of a non issue.

re saving babies - DP has barred me from watching those shows! He reckoned I "read too much" before labour and it made me worry unnecissarily. Pooh. Like to see how he would have dealt with labour!

Going to have to look up the Bumbo now, you have me intruiged! We will try Ella in the Jolly Jumper again this weekend (she didn't have enough head control last time we tried)

Sare, fudge mmm. Think I will have to get cooking on the weekend.

M, T & J's mum, can you pm or post me the recipe for hedgehog slice? At work we are a bit obsessed with buying it at the bakery! Actually it's my turn to get morning tea today so I might head that way....

Kimba, I hope Jet slept well last night. :fingerscrossed:

Did anyone watch Lost last night? Anyone else disappointed?

lucy72
16-02-2007, 08:32
Hi all,

Welcome pinkone! How scary with your bub. I would be in total panic mode!

Kimba, call me if you want to go ahead with it. I can get a day Mum is here as well (she is retired and plays the social calendar very well). I spoke to her yesterday and she is ok to come along and help! Had to laugh at the bumbo. I was going to get one for Jordan but read that they only go to 10kgs, since Jordan is now 9.6kgs figured his time in it was going to be minimal!

Di, funny on Adam at the ABA meeting. There is one kid at our mothers group and she squeals and laughs through out. She is so cute. Jordan sat there last week and laughed and laughed at her doing it and now he has decided it is fun and will do it now as well!!! Adam sounds like such a happy chappy!

I could never watch Saving Babies. I watched the Fastest Indian on Sunday and cried nearly the whole way through just because I thought he was going to die at the end. I know I get myself too worked up!!!

Georgia, Sophia is so gorgeous - you are right you have a cutie pie on your hands!!!! Kev's sister is minding Jordan but I am so worried as his teeth are giving him issues and I am he only one he will settle to at the moment. Mum has told me not to think about it as my SIL has had 2 kids and knows what is going on, but I am still worried. I will be out for most of the day getting hair done and all that.

Jordan has started on solids as well. At lunchtime he has farex and a teaspoon of either apple or pear mixed in and loves it. I will keep him on that for a couple of weeks and then I will start with some veges.

I forget who said their bub is out of the weight "range" in the books.... well Jordan is as well... I figure we will deal with it when he started to run around if it is still an issue. Jordan is a big boy and equivilent to at least a 6 month old. He is bigger than my cousins bub who is 14 months so I don't really listen if people say heis over weight. He doesn't look it at all.

Well better be off and tidy up. Have GymbaRoo today!

Chat later
Lucy

lucy72
16-02-2007, 08:34
Bec, posting at the same time!!! How funny with Ella's noises. They are so cute....

Gumby
16-02-2007, 08:44
Hi All

Just on for a quick hi!


Hi and welcome Pinkone - stopping sleeping must be scary - and Bella had a few episodes as well - that is scary!! I dont have one of those monitors that does the breathing thing but now I feell like getting one (although I think SIDS highest risk ends at 4 months).



Hi sorry just popped in for a quick read and noticed this. Apparently SIDS is more common in babies BETWEEN 4 months and 12 months where the risk reduces slightly. I dont want to scare anyone but I thouhg this was interesting...

~Kimba~
16-02-2007, 08:48
Morning all.

Not too bad last night (well not compared to other nights LOL) - resettled and fully asleep by about 8, woke at 11.40, 1.50, 4.50 and at 5.30 came to bed with me till 7.30. Has just gone back down for a nap now without a struggle. LOVELY.

Jet's been a bit clingy & wanting to be held a lot since his needles, but not really grizzly, he's pretty subdued and actually a LOT quieter than usual! Not as smiley either. He took quite a lot of little naps yesterday, but only for his usual 30-40min at a time. Biggest problem was that he didn't want to go into the cot, he just wanted to sleep on me, and cried every time I tried to ease him into the cot.

Re: Panadol, I only gave him Panadol the first afternoon and evening because he was a bit hot and seemed uncomfortable and was hard to get to sleep, his legs had big lumps on them which looked really sore. The 4 month shots really do seem to knock them around a lot more than 2 months though? Poor little people!

I can't watch sick baby shows either. I can't even watch birthing shows any more, because I get sadly envious of the mums having their lovely relaxed calm water births :laughing:

Di - Adam sounds like such a character! I bet having him around makes all the cr@p at home so much more bearable. Bugger on the AF! I'm wondering when mine is going to return. In a way it'd be nice to know I'm not pg, because I'm tempting fate (haven't gone back on the pill yet). Not that we ever do the deed, I'm too tired to waste my energy on that LOL.

Beck and Michelle - yeah the seat was a bit of a silly buy on my part, Jet seemed really frustrated at not being able to sit up and I thought it'd be a good alternative to his swing (which he's sick of) or me holding him. I bought it pre-loved myself (couldn't justify the cost new) but think I'll just re-sell it on here or on eBay, at least they have a good re-sale value.

Michelle - poor Abbey! She's not 'fat', say she's 'growing to her genetic potential' (that shuts people up!). Lots of word sounds here too. Jet watches our mouths and you can see him trying to mimic us. I think Hello! (or something resembling it) will be his first word too because I say it to him constantly. Way to go on the sleeping bags. I can't be bothered even trying to sew, so I just bought used grobags on eBay :o

Sare - fudge!!!! Oh yum. Don't suppose you could post some to Sydney? :laughing:. Reading Stephen King's IT as a teen put me off clowns forever too...shudder.

Sarah - oh I hate restless legs! I've had it too lately so I just started taking 'magnesium complete' for it. Helps me relax and sleep too (magnesium relaxes tension in the body). Had to LOL at Lightning McQueen - as a mother of a son I have all that to look forward too hey! When I turned 4, I wanted a Batman birthday cake, I was obsessed with Batman (god knows why).

OK off to have a shower, if Jet sleeps long enough to let me...

~Kimba~
16-02-2007, 09:11
oops seems we were all posting at the same time (actually I'd started my post then went to put Jet down and came back to it and in the meantime you all posted! LOL)

Bec - Jet has that high drawn out squeal too, he has a really clear squealy one and one that's a bit more raspy like a baby crow. The only way we can tell if he's happy/ excited or cranky is a slight variation in intensity and the expression on his face! We really want to get Jet a Jolly Jumper, his Great Gran said she'd get it at Xmas, but hasn't done so yet! and I feel rude reminding her LOL.

Lucy - thanks for that I will work out a potential day and call you. I just don't want to be a hassle since I know you have Jordan teething and all the wedding stuff going on too!

Rian - SIDS *shudder* I am so scared of it...it's the only reason I don't mind Jet waking me so often at night - at least I know he's all right! If he didn't make a sound I'd probably be awake with worry and checking on him anyway :o

OOH Gotta go the postie has just arrived with parcels - Fluffy Mail for me!!! :smiliedance:

Gumby
16-02-2007, 09:20
Oh fluffy mail, wot did you get ? :D

lucy72
16-02-2007, 09:28
I just don't want to be a hassle since I know you have Jordan teething and all the wedding stuff going on too!

Not a hassle at all. Jordan's fine! He gets grizzly from time to time and all that but if Mum is here I can handle both!

Pam, did you end up going yesterday?

Becbabe
16-02-2007, 10:00
Oh I forgot to say before, Georgia that is the most gorgeous photo! How cute!

Kimba, our jolly jumper was a hand me down from my sister. And what do you do about the promised gift people? My mate said not to get a high chair, that she would buy us one as her "baby gift". But she hasn't bought it yet and it seems so rude to remind them! Also good news on the sleep front - that first sleep was nearly 4 hours, wow!

Lucy, they're cute during the day and we both go "awwww", but when you're trying to get her to sleep... not so much :p

Off to mother's group. So looking forward to socialising!

~Kimba~
16-02-2007, 10:48
Rian - LOTS! LOL

have a look here: fluffy mail (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?p=1119390#post1119390)

Gumby
16-02-2007, 11:32
oH KIMBA THEY ARE ALL GRGEOUS. i LOVE THE LONGIES. i WANT SOME.

beck75
16-02-2007, 16:42
Just a quick hi - Kayley is finally asleep - she has been grizzly since having her last Rotateq vaccination this morning- she definately was not happy to see the in laws this afternoon!!

Well we have had lots of lovely rain and Kayley is sleeping through the thunder so quite happy about that.

Rian - bugger about the SIDS risk - I obviously read something wrong. One thing to remember is the risks are actually really low.

Anyway I gotta run and clean up while my grizzler is asleep - best wishes to all!!

GeorgiaAnne
16-02-2007, 17:30
quiet day today in here,
Beck - I hope Kayley is ok when she wakes up and gives you a nice break. Put your feet up love!
Becbabe - :laughing: about the promised gift people, I know exactly what you mean. Maybe put a Baby product brochure in their post box!
Kimba - I found the same with the 4 month shots, Sophia was quite sooky.
Lucy - Sounds like Jordan is in good hands. He is such a sweetie, i'm sure he'll be fine. I don't think he's "overweight" he is big boy but he is perfectly in proportion and a little scrumptious chubby legs:D
Sophia is asleep in my arms right now, it is very sweet. We are going to have quiet night in with some thai delivery, yum yum.

~Kimba~
16-02-2007, 19:18
Oh, my little cherub has been quite the mummy's boy these last few days! Wants to just be held all the time without wriggling as much as usual, and he's such a chubba now that all these cuddles are just fabulous, he's so squeeeeezable. Still not sleeping any better though, but hey you can't have it all.

Gymbaroo was just too hot today! phew what a stinker. I had to strip my buddha boy down to a nappy and even then it was still too much for him. He was very sooky and needed lots of cuddles from mummy, instead of rolling around. He slept all the way home from the moment I put him in his pram, so that was good. I made sure I walked slow and stopped for a chat with my neighbour to make the most of it!

mummyG - yum thai delivery rocks ;) I can't be bothered cooking these days, not when we have so many cheap restaurants around here who deliver. It's just too hard to coordinate cooking with bath and bedtime for my little man (so I tell DH anyway LOL)

beck - I stopped running around to clean when Jet slept ages ago. Give yourself a break! I think I'm going to get a cleaning lady when I go back to work so that when I'm home I can lavish all my attention on my boy.

rian - lol you know the lady I bought them off was selling 2 pairs of the same longies, as she has twins! you gotta check out Buyena.

lucy - let me sort myself out and I'll be in touch!

becbabe - ah yes the gift promisers. I'm still waiting on some gifts from our wedding in 2003 let alone for Jet. I'm thinking my approach with Gran might be 'I know it's hard for you to buy a Jolly Jumper in your small town so how about we get it and you just send the money' LOL.

Right glass of wine is finished, bubby has been resettled, it's time for bed for me! Maybe I'll get 4 hours in a row tonight that'd be special :)

sare
16-02-2007, 19:30
Hi girls,

I'm having a grumpy day today ... just tired (kimba I seriously don't know how you do it). I cracked the sh1ts with dh earlier, when I told him the girls had driven me crazy today and I need a break. He replied "I go to work and earn the money, you're the mummy you have to live with it" This is after I had spent all morning making sweets for his b'day bbq. Men :banghead:

I had a nice surprise today. I finally received my maternity pay from work. I returned to work after I had Eloise for about 6 months at 0.2 (which equates to a day a week), so I thought I'd get 6 weeks maternity pay at that rate. They'd paid me my full rate, so we got about $4000 more than we were expecting :smiliedance: So being the nice wife that I am (this is before THAT comment) I went to the shops and bought dh an ipod for his b'day. So now the girls and I have got him a pair of prescription sunnies, the ipod and 2 tickets to Austral Wheel Race (he loves cycling and used to be in the Vic Institute of Sport many moons ago racing track and on the road). Any more nasty comments like the one earlier and he'll just get a kick up the bum :mad:

Bec - Maybe mention casually to your friend that your going shopping for some baby items soon a ...., a highchair and see what happens. Good luck.

Georgia - Enjoy the thai food. I loved that photo of Georgia too. You've got a cutie pie on your hands.

Kimba - Cute photos of Jet and his new nappies. Hope you guys had fun at Gymbaroo (got the welcome song in my head now) Lara was exhausted after her lesson yesterday.

Rian - Was there an increased risk of SIDS between 4 and 12 mths because people weren't as vigilant in following the SIDS guidelines? I love my angelcare monitor, because it give me comfort to know that the alarm will go off if Lara stops breathing. But I still make sure I follow the guidelines.

Michelle & Lucy - Don't stress about Abbey's and Jordan's weight yet. As someone else said, once they start moving things will change.... anyway I think they both look absolutely gorgeous.

I had my first bad thing to eat this year today. :shame: I couldn't resist trying the fudge as I had never made it before. Then I had a small piece of the rocky road and a small rum ball that I had also made. At least I stopped at one small piece of each, normally I would have scoffed a heap of it down.

Hope you all have a great weekend.

suemp
16-02-2007, 19:59
hi guys im still around just been heaps busy

re sids: my friend pre kids, used to be a cop in the child services. it was her job to go to the scene of deaths of children to investigate (yucko). she said pretty much every case of sids she went to were people not following the "not to do list" such as had the cot full of teddies etc

kane had a play date with adam aka di's son today. it was so cute . they are starting to talk to each other and touch each other - well kane tried to gauge adams eyes out , but purely in an affectionate way lol

sorry no time for personals been out all day and boy does my kitchen know it :eek:

lucy72
16-02-2007, 20:05
Hello ladies,

I don't think Jordan is overweight as he is a big boy and am waiting for him to start moving around as I think he will loose a lot. Yes Georgia, those thighs are gorgeous! I love squeezing them. He has just discovered his feet but the rolls of fat on his legs prevents him from sticking his toes in his mouth - very funny to watch him try!

Sare, I know :banghead: men can be a pain sometimes. I suppose we both have a job to do and there are stresses that come with both. My DH works 6 days a week, so any chance I get ot go out of this house I take, where he would rather stay at home. if we have something on on a Sunday he takes a bit of persuation to go - not that he doesn't want to just that he wants to stay at home and I want to "get out"!!!!

Kimba, Jordan was extremely sooky and ony wanted me after his 4 month needles. I don;t know what is going to happen tomorrow night when i have the hens night and Jordan has to settle for Kev. He just screams - I guess his teeth arn't helping. I think there are the two of them coming through - poor bub.

Bec, ah the dilema with the gift people. My brother has been doing the same thing. If they are close people i would just frop a sutle hint - like Kayley is eating solids now and we can't wait for us to all sit at the table with her in her high chair.... Don't know if that sounds corny (didn't in my head!! LOL)...

Well I am going to head off and get some sleep - late one tomorrow night at the hens - we are going pole dancing!!! :eek: Now i am not wearing the shorts and high heals they told us is best to wear!!! LOL.

Catch up soon
Lucy

di_matt
17-02-2007, 06:37
Morning All

Well I had planned to sleep part of this morning away. For the first time in ages we have a totally free weekend. No moving etc to be done. But as luck would have it I woke up at 4.30 ready for Adam and he has just decided to grace me with his company... :rolleyes:

We had a busy day yesterday and I think he was worn out.
a friend of mine with her 5 week old called over to catch up in the morning. It was good to catch up and Adam soooo loved her little fella. He kept looking at him and smiling and talking.

Then as she drove off we had a call from Suemp and Kane to say they were nearly here, so we spent the afternoon with them. I can't believe how much bigger than Adam Kane is. I thought Adam was getting big lol (he finally hit 6.8kg this week). But Kane is also longer so I guess Adam might be on the short a*se side like me.

Kane is a real little sweetie and we got some updated photos.

I am off to see Troy Cassar-Daly tonight at Seagulls in Tweed. Its a bit of a pain with daylight savings because they have it and we don't, even though it is only 30 minutes from here. So it starts at 8.30 but we need to leave here at around 6.45 our time to get there in time. Be my first time out without Adam. I know he'll be fine but I have woken up feeling like a stress ball :banghead: But I know I'll enjoy it once I get there.

To those with "bigger" babies, enjoy every roll. My oldest daughter had about 10 rolls on each leg before she walked and now at 16 is a bean pole so I don't think it makes any difference :smiliedance:

okie I've dribbled on enough. Might gfo and get washing out of the way and yesterdays ironing. Have a good day all

~Kimba~
17-02-2007, 08:06
Could someone please tell my baby that we don't get up until it's light? LOL. Had a pretty good night for him - in bed and totally settled by 7.45, woke for feeds at 11.20 and 2.30. So we had some nice blocks of sleep there! Then it went a bit haywire - woke at 4 then kept waking every 15-20min. Brought him to bed with us but he was squealing and wanted to party :party: (at 5.30am!) so DH took him into the living room to watch cartoons and play.

He didn't go back to sleep till 8 (so he'll probably wake as I type this :rolleyes: ) BUT I did manage to get him to go to sleep this time in his grobag, without arm-flailing and waking! so that was a first.

Both Jet and Olivia made it through to Round 2 of Cloth Idol :yelclap: so thank you to those who voted and don't forget to vote again in round 2 once the photos get posted! (of course Pam and I will be pimping the link in our signatures hehehe)

di - I was hoping to sleep in this morning too, but no such luck. Enjoy your evening out, I bet you feel naked without Adam, but just have a couple of bevvies and you'll be right as rain!

lucy - 2 teeth wow the poor possum. Lucky you aren't BFing, you don't have to worry about getting fanged! My nephew was a big boy too and as soon as he started getting mobile he trimmed right down, I'm sure the same with happen with Jordan. Not that there's anything wrong with a bit of baby chub! Like Di says, they grow out of it. Both you and your DH are pretty tall too, so remember Jordan is just 'growing to his genetic potential'. Pole dancing! :eek: you're game LOL. I want to see photos!!!

sue - what a horrible job your friend had and it must have been so hard to see these little ones lost because their parents didn't take precautions. Jet only has one little teddy in his cot, and only during day naps while he's going off to sleep (I take it out once he's asleep) - we're making it into a 'lovey' (as recommended by NCSS) so that when he goes to daycare he can take it with him and won't feel as anxious.

sare - I don't know how I do it either. I used to be a 'can't function on less than 8 hours a night' person! I don't know where the fuel is coming from, it's certainly not coming off me weight-wise LOL. Fabulous news on the maternity pay!!! now don't spend any more of it on that ungrateful DH of yours - do something nice for yourself, you need it after taking care of your 2! Book yourself into a dayspa and leave the girls with him. When he whinges about how hard it was you can say 'You're the daddy, deal with it!' LOL. I told my DH that yes I'm the mummy but I can't take care of our baby 24x7 if nobody is taking care of ME and if I'm not getting a break ever. I used the example of the milking cow - you can't expect to get milk from your cow if you don't take care of it, feed it, and give it rest, can you? LOL.

OK ladies sounds like the wean (love it Marion!) is stirring so I'd better go put a boob in his face. Enjoy your days all!

beck75
17-02-2007, 13:04
Hi All

Just a quick one from me. I have had a facial this morning and it was lovely - finally spent the money that DH gave me for xmas. The lady stresses however for best results I should come at least every month (actually best results were a 6 week program then every 6 weeks but I said a flat out no to that one) and I guess I am thinking about it a little.

Its hot here in Melb but OK with the cooling on.

Oh and by the way with everyones baby weights, apparently the WHO have released new growth charts, you can get them through mother and baby as follows:
http://www.motherandbaby.com.au/article.php?id=YBF12

Also found another couple of links when looking for a new pram which may be of interest to you about all sorts of things for baby:
http://www.productreview.com.au/category.php?cat_id=1006

and

http://www.shoppingforbaby.com.au/

Sue/Kimba - I also have one little bunny in Kayleys cot - it is light enough for her to throw around. I use it for the same reason Kimba so we can take it away with us etc.

Congrats to Jet and Olivia - yay October bubbies!

Kimba - sorry on the sleep - I am sure he will get there someday - but I have heard that bad sleeper = good eater which does seem the case! Jet does look a little porkier in some of his latest photos!! Very cute - I live chubby babies.

Anyway I gotta run - best wishes to all of you.

GeorgiaAnne
17-02-2007, 14:28
Hi Chickies,
Beck - Lucky you with the facial. I love it how they try and rope you in, once a month would be nice though! Thanks for those links.
Kimba - Well done on cloth idol :yelclap: Nice that dh had a bit of bubba time to give you a break this morning. I just went and visited sil. I had forgotten how hard those first few weeks are, almost makes me regret not using a condom last night for the first time so I guess I am now ttc :wizard: I haven't got a period yet though so we'll see.
Di - I hope you had fun at the concert last night and i'm sure Adam was gorgeous as always!
Lucy - lol on the toes in mouth Sophia gives that a good ol' try too.
Sue- :wave: been wondering where you were! and you too Marion, what's going on?
Sare - maybe you should suggest dh work 24 hrs a day like you do! I think those sorts of comments just pop out, out of frustration. My dh says stuff like that sometimes but I know he doesn't REALLY mean it.

Keep all your :fingerscrossed: for me as we saw a house today that we love today.

sare
17-02-2007, 14:48
Hi girls,

Just a quick one...I'm procrastinating, housework to be done and I don't want to do it.

Georgia - Good luck with the house...hope you get it. Yay on ttc. Who will be the first one to fall pg again :detective: There seems to be few us ready to 'go again'

Beck - A facial and pampering sounds divine. This heat in Melbourne sucks. How's Kayley coping? Lara's not a big fan of it.

Di - Murphy's Law... Adam sleeps when you want to have a sleep in and can't sleep ... what a pain. Enjoy the rest of your quiet weekend.

Kimba - LOL at your cow analogy (and I know I can be a real cow at times :laughing: ) DH has been better today,,,he's going to do the majority of the cleaning while I make salad bases etc. for tomorrow. Good on your dh for looking after Jet this morning so you could get some more sleep.

Lucy - Have a ball at the hen's night - pole dancing is meant to be a riot.

:yelclap: to Jet and Olivia for getting through to round 2. I'll be sure to look out for the links in your signatures.

Ok...off to put Eloise to bed and make some coleslaw base and cook some potatoes.

di_matt
17-02-2007, 16:25
Hey all,

So much for a quiet weekend. Have spent 2.5 hours making sure wahing/ironing is done. Boys have food for tonight. Dogs are fed. House is clean and everything is ready for Adam so DH doesn't have to think.
I'll get to the concert and go to sleep lol. So much for a night off - I guess I knew it would be a joke.

Well have a good night all bub is now screaming at DH..........

~Kristin~
17-02-2007, 18:55
Well I never made it back for personals the other day like I said I would. DD decided to play havoc with her routine while Daddy's away, and of course as soon as he came home this morning she is back to being a little angel . Then to top off a long, hard emotional week, DP proceeded to tell me how hard he worked all week, and how tired he was :banghead: . Apparently wining and dining at the MCG, going to dealer field days, spending half a day shopping, is all hard work, compared to being at home alone with a 4.5 mth old baby!?!?! He's lucky he redeemed himself by back peddling fast and handing over a late Valentine 's Day pressy, a big bottle of Agent Provocotuer perfum - sooooooo good!!!

Congrats to Jet & Olivia, now we just have to get these 2 over the line again!!:smiliedance:

Beck – I’m soooooooo jealous!!! I used to get a regular facial, but my last one was when Bella was 4 weeks old…. I just haven’t found the time (or the energy) to organise one. Thanks for the link to the new growth charts. I was a little concerned that Bella was a little small, but now I see she is spot on, right in the middle!!

Georgia – I thought I didn’t want to rush in and try again, but lately its really playing on my mind, just have to get DP on side, and then like you, wait for my period to return…. :o

Kimba – Sleep has to happen soon, surely?!? I think Jet must be talking to Bella, she has decided to start waking again around 3am then it on and off for the rest of the morning. Hats off to you, I'm sick of it already!

Di - Have an awesome night out honey!!! I'm sure your DH will cope fine, in some weird twisted way I kinda get some sick satisfaction when Bella plays up on DP and I'm not there. Makes him appreciate what I do so much more. I just don't like the fact that it involves my little noodle being upset.

Ok, long dribble from me done, going to go forage for food.....

~Kristin~
17-02-2007, 19:00
Almost forgot, Lucy - have fun pole-dancing, release your inner tart, and work it baby, work it, own it....... :laughing:

~Kimba~
17-02-2007, 19:16
some weird twisted way I kinda get some sick satisfaction when Bella plays up on DP and I'm not there. Makes him appreciate what I do so much more. I just don't like the fact that it involves my little noodle being upset

Absolutely! I would gladly disappear and leave Jet with DH for hours at a time just so that DH appreciates how much work I put in and why I get so frustrated when Jet won't settle - but I feel sorry for Jet being left and getting upset, and I'd worry about him the whole time I was away!

Speak of the devil he must have a 6th sense - I thought he was down for the night but I can hear him stirring. BBL for personals if I can, otherwise tomorrow! Nighty night all...

~Kimba~
18-02-2007, 08:41
:smiliedance: best sleep in ages last night - down around 7, woke at 12.30, 2 & 3.30 (yes that was a bit cr@p :rolleyes: ), BUT then slept through till 6.45 :smiliedance: gotta love the long blocks of sleep (well, long for me anyway) at each end. I actually had DREAMS last night because I could get into a deep enough sleep. Now if I could just get him to do it again, and only wake ONCE in the middle!

lucy - how did the pole dancing go?! I'm dying to know...hey is Dural anywhere near you? I'm thinking of bidding on a highchair on eBay but it's in Dural and I have no idea where that is! LOL

kristin - ah don't you love it when DH tells you how tired he is. I just give mine The Look when he tries to pull that one on me. Nicely done on the perfume though! *applause*

di - hope you had an awesome night hun and that you aren't feeling too worse for wear this morning!

sare - housework? what's that LOL. We have tumbleweeds drifting across the floor, it's been so long since anyone vacuumed :eek: (I am waiting for DH to do it! YEH RIGHT). Is it DH's bday BBQ today? Happy BDay to him, and I hope you have a lovely day.

Georgia - good luck with the house! whereabouts is it? You're buying this one right? So exciting! *clapping*

Beck - wow a facial sounds really lovely. I'm thinking of a pedicure though looking at the state of my feet after living in thongs since last September when I went on ML. Not pretty! Ta for those links I will have a read today.

OK better go have a shower and finish my chai before my little prince wakes up (he went down like a dream for a nap at 9 - bless him!). Have a great day everyone!

m_jelly
18-02-2007, 10:56
My little fishy is taking what i hope will be a long nap. For some reason she was squirmy and then awake at 11pm, then again at 1am, with bouts of unhappy noises and squirms in her sleep all night. Maybe she was dreaming about all the people at the shopping centre yesterday who were gushing over her and kept trying to touch her cheeks. I wonder, can you buy a baby shirt that says "get your own baby!"?

We went to the baby sale at BigW for some much needed clothes that actually fit her. Rather than buying footed sleepsuits, i decided to get ones without feet, and some socks. Should get more use out the suits now I dont have to worry about toe curlage. I also got some Toddler nappies (10-18kg). As she's almost 9kg now i figured we may as well move up and get some nice pants room in the meantime.

While shopping I was of course giving Abbey the usual commentary on what we were doing. I was picking up some spotted flannel cot sheets when a very large woman sqozed past us and dropped something. She bent down to pick it up just as i was saying to abbey "look at the spotted sheets". Unfortunately it came out as "look at the spotted elephant". :eek: I felt sooooo bad. I dont know where that thought came from. I dont know if the lady realised there were no elephants around, spotted or otherwise, but she didnt let on. Bad mummy teaching bad lessons! :shame:

Some news on the ex front. He got fired from his job (so def no money for me) and he is moving in with some bint he met online, less than 3 weeks after declaring I was the one for him and we just had to work it out. There's nothing that says 'i love you' like shagging some unfortunate woman and moving in to mooch off her. I dont want him back, never did, but im miffed that he would behave like this and then have the audacity to be happy about it!

I've just got to find Mr Right to be Abbey's real daddy. I even put on makeup yesterday for the first time since she was born. Course, looking good doesnt help when you are so wrapped up in your baby that you are oblivious to the admiring eyes (if im oblivious then i can pretend they were there).

Oh, can someone repost that link for Nananellys sleep suits? Search cant seem to locate it.

Michelle

~Kimba~
18-02-2007, 11:43
Oh Michelle you crack me up - "get your own baby" :laughing: I wonder if our Pam could embroider you a bib, if you asked nicely? Mind you there's nothing wrong with a big black texta on a white tshirt LOL

BigW is having a baby sale? :idea: Ooohhh, what do we need...if I buy any more Bonds stuff DH will kill me but it's just SO CUTE. Actually I'm looking for a highchair, but I'm sure I can get a perfectly good preloved one on eBay :rolleyes:

Linkage - http://www.nananellys.com/

And your ex? SO much better off without him!!! but yeah it would be much more satisfying if he was still moping around pining for you. Ah well.

~Kristin~
18-02-2007, 13:11
It's raining here today - lovely - and we're having a quiet family day on the couch watching DVD's. Better go start the next one, I heard my popcorn finish in the microwave - YUMMY! :D

Michelle - If you find one of those 'Get your own baby' t-shirts, fling one my way!!! Between absolute strangers wanting to touch Bella, and DP's sister commenting on "HER" baby (what the?!?!), I think I obviously need to advertise that this is my kid - paws off!!:laughing: Boo to your ex, what a tool, both you and beautiful Abbey will have an amazing man come into your lives and he will love Abbey as his own - I just know it!! :thumbsup:

Kimba - :yelclap: On Jet's bit better sleep - Bella wouldn't go down last night until 10.30pm (usually 8ish), then woke at 11.30pm for a cuddle, then again at 2.30am for a feed and then at 6.30am. So not too bad really, if I had of been able to sleep in between without DP rocking the foundations of the house with his snoring. Looking forward to her going back to the good old days of sleeping through again though!

Ok, now I smell popcorn...............

ourfirstbubba
18-02-2007, 15:31
hi girls

sorry I have been off line for a few days...have read all your posts and hope you are all well....

Kimba- honey I am glad your gorgesous jet slept better last night...keep it up little man!

Michelle- what a classic......the t-shirt sounds like a great idea...and the ex needs to stay that way- an ex........

Sare- hope your hubby grovels today...I had a bit of a go at my hubby this morning...Natalia got up a bit earlier than normal (at 4.30am) and he said last night he would do the early feed, but I got up anyway.......he at least got up when she got up again at 8 and made me a coffee as soon as I got up at 9!

Beck- thanks for the link on the growth charts...

well my little monkey has been a little unsettled today and not drinking much....or wants to drink just as soon as we wrap her and sing her twinkle twinkle..I swear the feed, play, sleep does not always work with us...Natalia is play, play, feed, play, feed then sleep.......does it really matter??

well girls I am tired today and a bit cranky so I am going to go now.....be back later hopefully..I wish it was winter, I am so over the heat and my headaches....

xo

Becbabe
18-02-2007, 19:25
Hi everyone,

Seems too good to be true... we have decided to start trying an earlier bedtime, so tonight is the second night she's been in bed at 7.45 (an hour earlier than usual!!) and not a peep since. I actually got to watch the rugby last night! But of course it has just started thundering now so we'll see if she can sleep through that. Hopefully the fan's drowning it out in there! And I'm not complaining about the lovely rain.

Mary, Ella's never been much of a one for feed, play, sleep - she likes to go to bed with a full tummy! I think that's just ONE way that SOME babies like to behave :p . BTW it's you that lives in Newcastle, right? I meant to reply when I was talking about heading up there for the wedding. Funnily enough DP and I had our last "just us" weekend in Newcastle. Scratchleys is my favourite restaurant ever mmm.

Kristin, don't you love snorers?! I can't say much as I've been known to have the ol chainsaw going myself, but I now have DP well trained... give him a poke and he rolls onto his side. But if he's got a cold there's no stopping the thundering noise!! Lucky I love him that's all I can say.

Kimba - yay Jet yay on the big first block of sleep!! Here's hoping the trend continues

Michelle, lol at the spotted elephant. Don't you hate it when your mouth decides it doesn't really need your brain? Also - your ex is sure making it as easy as possible to move on, isn't he? Could be a good thing that you're wrapped in Abbey anyway, don't they always say love comes along when you're not looking for it :p

Question: what are your bubbas into playing with ATM? I am starting to look around for home made toys for Ella to play with as she seems to be getting a bit bored with her Chrissy toys. So far I have entertained her for half an hour with a soup ladel and a tupperware container :D

That might do for now. But oh the luxury of spending time on the net with noone competing for my attention (although DP suggested my baby free time might be better spent... with him and some nudity...);)

di_matt
18-02-2007, 19:27
Evening All

Well we had a great night last night. It was a real "family" night. We went to Troy Cassar Daley and he had his wife and two little kids come out and sing with him. It was so cute. He started right on time and finished around 10.30. So we were home just after 11.
Adam was apparently a treasure but then I wouldn't have expected anything else. He is even back to sleeping all night for me...which I fully appreciate.
Kimba we bought a reclining seat for Adam from Big W. He can sit it in now, so he knows what is happening at tea time. It fits onto your kitchen chairs and is from birth through. He didn't like being fully reclined so we sat it up one level. I think it was $75 or there abouts.

Well all I am going to try and wake my precious up as he is asleep on the mat with no clothes on ( must have got worn out in the shower lol)

beck75
18-02-2007, 20:17
Hi All

Well Kayley has been a terrible pain today!! I slept in her room last night as she wasnt well and was very grizzly and I had little sleep because I kept waking up every time she grizzled and took ages to go back to sleep so I am not as patient as normal - the little bugger just would not sleep today. I got her to sleep once on the boob and another time she was so exhausted she actually fell asleep on the quilt in front of the TV - the rest of the day she spent grizzling and we spent a lot of time with her crying in her cot.

It was 38 here today though and even with the cooling on it was still high 20's in her room so I hope it was the heat that was the problem - not that she is playing and has worked out if she holds on long enough I will give up and get her back up!!

Actually she has had 3 poos today which she hasnt done since she is little - I believe that when they start teething this can happen - she is also madly chewing on her fingers and bit my boob a couple of times (I think I have a bruise so when teetch come I am defiantely stopping)! I hope that it is not teeth because I want to feed until 6 months but I am starting to think it could be. Those who are getting them now - what symptoms are you having???

Well the final good thing is that she went down really easy tonight (which is normally the hardest time) in about 15 mins tops (well that is easy for me anyway). So I think I might have an early night and get DH to wake me for a rollover feed. At least it is cooler now.

Sorry no personals as I am buggered - just needed to have my rant.

One thing though - I also got angry at DH today (my patience was at all time low) - I think he half deserved it!! He is trying to be good a lot of the time but I also think he is a bit selfish putting himself first sometimes when I would just really love him to offer to give me a break - and I think I need more hugs and kisses which seem to be in short supply - they can usually make you feel better when you are feeling a bit down or frustrated.

Lets hope all our angels have a great sleep tonight so we can all be refreshed and happy mummas!

sare
18-02-2007, 21:12
Hi girls,

Well the last of our family left just over an hour ago. Dh had a great day and got spoilt rotten. It ended up being an indoor bbq, as it was a total fire ban in Melb today. DH cooked it in the garage and we stayed in with the cooler on. Eloise had a ball...you would have thought it was her birthday the way she grinned when the cake came out.

Beck - Lara has been the same for the last couple of days, just unsettled and not sleeping or feeding well. I think (hope???) it's the heat. At least it will be cooler tomorrow.

Di - Glad all went well with the concert and you "survived" and enjoyed your night without Adam.

Bec - What a champ Ella is. Lara's been up since just after 7pm and she's still awake, she's been fed and is ready for bed it's just too stinking hot for her.

Mary - Don't stress about the feed, play, sleep thing... just do what's right for you and Natalia. As long as she's happy and getting some food, sleep and playtime, then you are doing brilliantly (that's what I think anyway :p ) Dh has been very grateful; for all I have done for him today. He had a laugh at the girl's b'day card. I asked Eloise what I should write on daddy's card and she said "Have a good party with chippies and cake", so I did. At least she had the important things covered :laughing:

Michelle - LOL at the spotted elephant comment... I'm always guaranteed of a laugh when I read your posts. And (blow raspberry here) to your ex... what a pr1ck.

Kimba - I'm hoping that it's the start of Jet-the-magnificent-sleeper :fingerscrossed: . I hope he does the same for you tonight.

Well better go, dh is having no luck getting Lara to sleep. Wishing everyone a great night's sleep.

lucy72
18-02-2007, 22:28
Hello - well I have found a new profession, tlaent scouts were lining up outside my house when I got home!!! HA HA!!! I know i am dreaming.... What a fun night! Poledancing is harder than I thought and I have a new respect for them. I am so sore - my arms the tops of my feet my legs - everywhere. I strutted my inner tart - well as much as I could with my mother watching! Unfortunately my camera's batteries decided to conk out but I have asked one of the girls to send me thorugh some pics. She is going to give me a CD at the wedding in two weeks. Great night. Went dancing at Retro until I could not feel my feet. Got home at 2:30am - woke at about 7:30am with Jordan chattering away... Been so tired all day now I can't sleep!!

Georgia, good luck with the TTC!!! I think we all need to have bubs again at the same time so we can continue our journeys togerther!!! Where is the house you looked at. How exciting for you! It's all happening!

Di, glad the concert went well and Adam was a trooper. Sounds like you have a gem on your hands there! Lucky you!

Kristin, don't you hate that. Jordan does that as well. He is so happy and chirpy when people are around then as soon as we are home he screams the house down!!! The only people that believe me is our neighbours... hmm popcorn..... melted butter yummo....

Kimba, yah for the sleep with Jet. bet you had forgotten what a dream was! Dural is past where I live. It is about another 30 to 45 minutes away - very nice area. Good for a Sunday drive. If you win we could arrange something to meet up or something.

Michelle, rude finger to your ex. You deserve someone so much better than him. I suppose the best thing about it all is that you have Abbey. She is so cute.

Mary, hows your Dad doing? Keep thinking about him and then forgetting to ask.

Bec, Jordan loves anything! Tonight he was playing with my DH's All Black stubby holder, which mind you an Avent bottle fits quite nicely into so my hubby now feeds him with this. He also loves a teething book which makes scrunchy noises (he actually reaches for this if I show it to him) and an elephant that giggles and vibrates. Then again anything that fits into his mouth he loves at the moment. You can now clearly see and feel his teeth.

Sare, glad to hear the inside BBQ went well. What an innocent mind a child has - cake and chippies how cute.

Well my sleeping buddies (I hope) I am going to see if I can catch some :sleeping: .

Have a good mothersgroup and sorry for the long post - too much to catch up on!

Lucy

lucy72
18-02-2007, 22:32
Just re-read my post and sorry for the typos!! Also the last part was supposed to say I have mothergroup tomorrow and everyone have a great day... See I need sleep!!!!!!

ikis84
19-02-2007, 07:52
Hi all!

I just got home last night after flying up to Brisbane to visist my SIL for the weekend. We had a lovely time and she took some great piccies of Olivia (she is a photographer)... if any of you Queenslanders need a photographer, her website is www.aimeepobjoy.com.au :)

Lucy, glad to hear that you had a great time poledancing! I hope you got to catch up on sleep last night!

Kimba, congrats on Jets improved sleep! Hopefully it's the start of good times! I am looking forward to you posting your sleep report from last night, lol... It's like a good drama unfolding, or reading a good book - I am sure the resolution is just on the next page!

mjelly - I love the title under your avatar! Teehee. I would be happy to embroider a suit/shirt/bib for Abbey if you post it to me... gives me something to use this new found skill for - after all, there really is a limited amount of things that you can do with embroidery. Here is a bib that I embroidered for Olivia ....http://www.flickr.com/photos/62116633@N00/385006150/

di - I can't believe Adam fell asleep on the mat with no clothes on - how precious! He seems very easy going!

Beck - Olivia has been clamping down on my nipples too - ouch... I have nicknamed her Jaws. My mil (who bf 3 kids until they were about 2-3) said they often start to do that when they are getting teeth, but they do stop, and won't bite more then a few times as they figure out that if they want to eat, they cant bite the boobie that feeds them, lol. We will see! My poor nipples atm. At least it doesn't hurt as much as feeding in the first week. I am going to stick it out - I won't stop feeding her because of teeth - many other women survive bf with teeth, so I will try :)

Okay, I must go catch up on some washing from our weekend away!

Thank you to those of you who voted for Olivia in Cloth Idol :) Look out for round two starting!

~Kimba~
19-02-2007, 10:01
Man I just got Jet to sleep and read through all your posts and he's calling out already. I thought 'bum that was a short nap' then I realised he's been asleep for 40min so it seems I've been on here longer than I thought!

Anyway he's happy talking to his aquarium (for now!)so here goes...

Sleep Report! Down at 7, resettled (crying) at 7.30, slept till 12.45 (yay!) then was up and down a few times from 1.30 till 2.30 :banghead:, then slept till 5.30 and came to bed with me...where he grunted and wriggled and carried on and did a HUGE poo, so at 6 we were both up, so then he decided it was playtime. He went back to sleep at 7.30 and slept till 8.30 so that made up for it a bit :)

Re: playing. Currently we do The Rounds :laughing: which is - nappy free time (after a nap) on towels in his cot where he plays with his feet and some toys. Then in my arms for a while or playing and doing Gymbaroo stuff and tummy time on the bed. Then into his swing to give mummy a break. Then more playing, cuddles, tummy time. Maybe some time in the Bumbo. Then under his playgym with toys. Then cuddles and a feed and a nap. Fave toys are his chain of Linkadoos, a couple of soft toys, some teethers, and cloths that he can rub on his face and shove in his mouth and chew. We're doing LOTS of tummy time at the moment because I'm trying to get rid of his flat head LOL.

Re: routine. He's totally settled back into a snack play feed sleep routine :rolleyes: which works for him right now, and to be honest it works for me too, I just hope that it doesn't cause hassles for his carer when he starts daycare.

Re: teething. He has been pooing more, but he's also drinking more at the moment, so who knows. His main sign is shoving things into his mouth and rubbing them really hard back and forth against his gums or chewing frantically, sometimes angrily growling rarr-rarr-RARRR! as he does it (it's pretty funny). He chews on my knuckles and bites SO HARD but isn't biting my boobs too badly as yet. Oh and the constant stream of drool pouring out of his mouth.

Ah bugger there he goes "ma ma boo boo umm ma ma boo ma boo uum uum moo ma uum boo. ROWR ROWR ROWR!!!". That's how he calls me now! LOL. Will BBL for personals when DH gets home, I promise!

m_jelly
19-02-2007, 11:45
My little fishie is so clever. She just rolled from her tummy to her back - twice! :yelclap: She was trying to look at her mobile in her cot. She's been practising for a few days now, rocking with one bent arm, so hopefully she will now start doing it on a regular basis and not complain to mummy that she rolled onto her tummy and is now stuck. She spends most of the day on her tummy (her choice, not mine), can shunt backwards a little bit, but mostly turn in circles. Mum think she will be crawling next month, which means I have to baby proof the house. I have to buy 3 gates at least, bummer.


Re sleeping - I think abbey is still broken from her jabs. She was up again last night at 11-1, and even tho i put her in my bed and gave lots of titty, she wouldnt go to sleep. So i did. Kept being woken up by her smacking me and saying "HEH" though. She might have been hot, or just wanted me to play. Even after she fell asleep she was restless and bothersome all night. I rather hoped she would sleep in to make up for it, but nope. Had to get up to greet a courier anyway, for a parcel that wasnt even for this house. Idiots.

Re playing: She does stand on mummy time, lean on mummy time, mummy play and complain at mummy time. When im not involved she is on her mat with a selection of toys. I place them about 5 in a circle around her, so she can pick and choose depending on which direction she oopsed into. She has crinkle and cloth books but these frustrate her. I think its because she cant turn the pages as she stops complaining if i do it for her. Her favourite toys are her GiggleBee and Mr Turtle. Mr Turtle has noisy arms and beeps, GiggleBee giggles and laughs when you move his wings. She pretty much plays with anything though. Fortunately I'm a sucker for toys and keep buying new ones.

Re routine: Everything is -ish. Its naptime-ish. Its playtime-ish. She gets what she wants, when she wants it. She has a regular-ish bedtime and a rough daytime nap schedule, but daytime is really changeable. I would call it a snack, play, feed, sleep routine too. While I admit i am at her total beck and call I dont give in straight away for everything.

Sometimes i play hard to get just for my own entertainment. Like now, she wants a drink, so i threw a cloth nappy at her head instead which she is now engrossed trying to get out of.

beck75
19-02-2007, 11:55
Hi All

Well its cooler today and still took 2 hours to get Kayley to sleep just now (and final sleep was ont he boob) - she is well and truely broken again. I was hoping because it was cooler today.......Maybe I need to put her down a bit quicker when she starts getting grumpy???? Or the other option is to let her get really exhausted first - hopefully one of those will work.

Kimba - did you get anywhere with the sleep school?? It is starting to cross my mind too. I dont mind spending half an hour or so to get her off to sleep but when it takes this long it is exhausting and I get a bit upset and frustrated - by the time I feel better she is up again!! But I really dont want to do CC.

Maybe I will just give up on day time sleeps completely!!! She is pretty good at night luckily!

Oh well - I have shots to look forward to on Thursday so I dont think we will be improving again any time soon!!

Sorry for my wingy ME post - I am so glad to have somewhere to get it off my chest it does make me feel better.

Anyway I am going to get some lunch while I have a chance.

~Kimba~
19-02-2007, 12:06
OK I'm back. My boy is sleepy today, this is his 3rd nap, although still not sleeping for long. After playtime he starts going "HOOOM HOOOM HOOOM" really deep and loud, which I have figured out means either 'I'm hungry' or 'I'm tired' or possibly both since at the moment bitty and bedtime go hand in hand :laughing: Either way it means he's ready to be wrapped and have a drink and a sleep.

re: rolling. Jet still isn't rolling, neither back to front or vice versa (the front to back rolls he was doing weeks ago have long disappeared). I'm starting to wonder if it's his nappy being a bit restrictive, so I give him lots of nappy free time, during which he bucks and writhes and plays with his feet a lot more than with his nappy on, but he still doesn't roll. I do lots of 'roll playing' where I roll him over and back, and he's got the hang of it, but just can't do it on his own. I even put toys out of his reach to try to encourage him but nothing yet. When he's on his tummy he can shuffle backwards and turn sideways a bit though.

m_jelly - Abbey IS clever! Sorry she's still a bit unsettled from her jabs, Jet is the same. Babyproofing our place is something I'm not looking forward to we have so much stuff everywhere (although it's a good excuse to declutter I suppose). LOL at the playing hard to get, I do that too.

pam - glad you had a good trip away, look forward to seeing the new photos. Hope that Olivia learns not to bite the boob that feeds her, soon!

lucy - sounds like you had a fab night, poledancing sounds great can't wait to see the photos - Retro LOL I haven't been there for years! (oh and I didn't win the highchair, so no drive to Dural for me)

sare - glad that DH's birthday went so well and I loved Eloise's birthday message to him, what a cheeky monkey - she's got her priorities straight!

beck - sorry to hear Kayley has been a pain I'm sure it's the heat that gets to them, Jet is the same when it's too hot. Good on you for letting DH know you need a break or some appreciation. I really don't think these men understand just how tough it is being a full time mum.

di - glad you had a great night. That booster seat sounds ideal (saves us getting yet another piece of furniture if we can just sit it on one of our own chairs). I wish Jet would just fall asleep like Adam, I can't remember a time when he has ever just crashed out and fallen asleep on his own!

bec - nice work on the success with the earlier bedtime! Jet's been going to bed roughly an hour earlier too (mainly because he's getting grizzly by then and I can't handle keeping him up any longer LOL). I do the 'poke' thing too when DH snores. Nothing worse than when you can't sleep and they are laying there snoring away.

mary - was wondering where you were! Hope you are well. I wouldn't worry about routine if what Natalia is doing is working for you both! It's only a problem if it's a problem for YOU.

kristin - hope Bella is sleeping better for you now. You made me crave popcorn after I read that!

OK off to put my feet up and see how long Jet sleeps for this time. He actually had a couple of longish (1 to 1.5 hours) naps yesterday, I was hoping he'd do it again today!

~Kimba~
19-02-2007, 12:14
oops sorry beck we must have been posting at the same time. No advice sorry because I have similar issues, but I can really feel for you hun, it's just so hard when you are having such a difficult time with getting your bub to sleep. Remember, you are doing such a good job as a mummy! :hugs: :kiss:

re: sleep school. I called Karitane and Tresillian and they have a 4-6 week wait for a res stay and I have to be booked in by my ECHC, so I'm waiting to get an appointment to see the ECHN this week, and we'll go from there. I mainly want to do it so that I can get some sleep and rest myself before I have to go back to work, and of course to see if we can get Jet into some better habits. But I really don't want to 'break' him with CC.

On that subject - my Mum disagrees with me about CC. IMO CC 'works' by teaching your bub to resign themself to the fact that you aren't coming even if they cry for you, so they just cry themself to sleep and eventually learn to just go to sleep by themselves without crying, because they've lost that trust that someone will come if they need them. Whereas Mum thinks that CC works because babies 'learn to trust that someone will come "eventually", and in the meantime they just fall asleep while they're waiting'. Seems we will have to agree to disagree there!

lesley
19-02-2007, 13:39
hey all

how are we all i just wanted to jump on and say hi we are just trying to relax and get things done now the three older children are back at school

but bub is doing well i am taking her to get weighed on Wednesday arvo so i will let you know how it gose hope everyone else's bubs are being good for them.

can some one please tell me why everyone has been hugged ? i really dont get on here enough i dont think well take care all



lesley and montanah :angel: :angel: :angel:


Valentine this one is so cute

ourfirstbubba
19-02-2007, 16:33
hello girls

hope you are all well..damn these headaches, have another one today! I am so over them......I dont know how I still play and entertain my poor bubba when my head is throbbing and I feel like I am going to pass out sometimes...

anyway....
Bec- yep we live in Newcastle..its such a nice place, we live right near the beach....I agree with Scratchleys being a nice restaurant....we were at a wedding there in November and it was just lovely......as for snoring, I am one....and a sleeptalker!The earlier sleeptime works well for us too...Natalia is normally asleep the latest at 8pm and then we dream feed her at 10.30pm....she cant go past this bedtime as she gets overtired......

Di- god bless Adam asleep on the mat.....does he just fall asleep like that??

Beck75- Natalia is definetely teething....I had to give her panadol last night....the signs she is giving me are: she pulls at her ears, lots of dribbles, she is drinking less, more poos, her fingers are always in her mouth and she forever sucks on them or whatever can fit in..and she is more sooky and clingy than normal....poor little cherubs, I just cuddle her lots and she loves it.....hope Kayley is better....

Sare- glad your hubbies bday went well.....bless little Eloise!

Lucy- you are a funny girl..glad you enjoyed your night out...go girl! Thanks for asking about my Dad...he is out of rehab now and at home...he is doing well....will be a long 6 months though....how funny about the stubby holder and the milk bottle..thats cute! hey, whatever works I say......

Kimba- good boy Jet......hope he keeps improving for you! Natalia is a snack, play, feed, sleep girl too...the last thing she has before she sleeps is the last of her bottle.....

Michelle- how funny with the cloth nappy...my hubby wraps one around Natalias head and she loves it! she loves looking at herself in the mirror.....

Bec- is it getting Kayley to sleep thats the problem, or that she has short naps or both?? you are allowed to whinge, we all are!

Kimba- not sure about your Mums theory on CC.....I know one couple whose little boy was left to cry for so long that he eventually vomited and then fell asleep from pure exhaustion.....maybe look into a private sleep consultant to come to your home..it might cost a bit more but worth it....I am pretty sure being in Sydney that you can find one who can show you how to work with Jet without doing CC....just an idea anyway sweetie...

well my dear MIL has taken Natalia up to her house for her last sleep so I am going to sit on the couch and watch Queer Eye for the straight guy and will this headache to GO AWAY!!!!

ciao

xo

Jeffy
19-02-2007, 18:10
Hi everyone,

Dad and step-mum are off tomorrow and then MIL comes to stay :banghead: DH is in Canada with work and I am very, very tired as I have been playing tour guide as well as mum and gourmet chef. Sam has a new highchair courtesy of dad which reclines and turns into a chair and table as he gets older. I love it! What a fantastic invention! It was only $200 on sale and we will get plenty of use out of it because.......I have decided I want another baby. I swore I never would but I do and it only took me 3 days to convince DH it was a good idea :o Not sure when though because of the expense (creche fees etc). We will sit down and work it out once DH gets back.

I have read all your posts and I am sorry that there are waaaaay too many for personals but I have to say; Why don't we all buy tops for our kids and iron on letters "Get your own baby" ? We could start a Bubhub trend :D We could even make it into an Ebay business :laughing:

S'pose I had better emerge and be sociable.

Gumby
19-02-2007, 19:02
Hey ladies. Still around :D Though you got rid of me that easy ey ey? :laughing:

Jeffy- Yay another baby. Thats great that you have swayed to the dark side :devil6: I may have to look into a high chair like that. I am just using the same one I had for the girls. Its getting a bit old now.

ourfirstbubba- I didnt know you were in newcastle. You should come to one of th hunter/newcastle meets one day. I am hearing you on the headaches too. Plus I have had a tummy bug. YUKKO

lesley- The hugs are being sent threw pm's. Did Montanah get her xmas present from James? He keeps asking me if she likes it...lol

Kimba- I am naughty. I CC'd James from early on. That has worked for us but may not everyones cup of tea. I hope the sleep school can get Jet sleeping threw, heavan knows you deserve it.
On rolling, I dont think my girls did early on but James first rolled from tummy to back @ 6 days and back to tummy @ 3 months. He now does it everytime you put him down. He is never laying where I left him, I have to go looking under the couch..lol

Ok the tv calls my names so I better run. I hope everyone has a goodnight. And I will finish personals later..

di_matt
19-02-2007, 19:30
Hey all,

Just a quickie from me tonight. Feeling a little knackered for no real reason today.

To all those excited about Adam being a darling and falling asleep on the mat - this is only the second time he has done it but he is oh so sweet. He has discovered his willy today. I put a nappy on him after he tried to rip it off and he screamed so much I took the nappy off. As soon as he found it again he was all smiles......... must be built in from birth :laughing: :laughing:
I forgot that bit with boys. I think he likes that bit more than his toes..

Okie I'll be back tomorrow for a better read.
Have a great night all

~Kimba~
19-02-2007, 19:35
He has discovered his willy today. I put a nappy on him after he tried to rip it off and he screamed so much I took the nappy off. As soon as he found it again he was all smiles......... must be built in from birth

:laughing: :laughing: oh di thanks for the laugh I needed that! I was wondering when our boys would start discovering what they have downstairs! Jet is still working on getting to know his toes, so he might be a while off yet :laughing:

Another one with the crummy all day headache here so no personals tonight just wanted to pop in and say :hugs: to anyone who needs them and I hope everyone has a good evening!

Becbabe
19-02-2007, 19:37
Hi everyone,

Yes I'm on the bubhub at 8.30 again.. she was asleep at 7.40 tonight & I actually got to go virtual shopping for the first time since before she was born (I used to do it weekly!) Might even get to chat to DP before bedtime ( you see you girls come first:D )

Also a big big first... our first chuckle/real laugh! She has made little "heh heh" noises before but nothing like this. It was so cute, DP spent ages trying to get her to do it again but no go. I'm so glad she did it when I was home! I'm away for my first whole day tomorrow...

BTW you girls are great. I was wound really tight today at work, no idea why, but things that usually would only bug me a bit were really pi**ing me off. God I hope it's not the return of my period!! But I jumped on here, read your posts and then went back to work smiling... it was total therapy! Thanks everyone :)

Rian & Mary, I wonder if I could sneak a bubhub meeting into a weekend away?? That would be so good. I would love to meet some of you girls. Got to say I was also a fan of the Bogey Hole, such yummy brekkie...mmmm...

Jen good luck with the MIL... and congrats on the big decision! I wonder if Sam's proud cos he won you round :p

Kimba - there are lots of "grey areas" between CC and not CC... but hopefully Jet will just keep stretching that first sleep out for you! We tried for over a week with the earlier bedtime when I bought the NCSS book and she just cried for an hour or napped then woke right up... she must just have been waiting til she was darn well ready :) I know a few people who've gone to sleep centres and most of it sounds pretty gentle. I think you only do what's acceptable to your family.

Better go before this turns into a scary megapost! Isn't it great to have somewhere you can talk just about babies & not be worrried about being boring!

beck75
19-02-2007, 19:56
Hi All

Got Kayley down fo a sleep at 8.30 (mind you she fell asleep feeding and I wasnt going to wake her)!! So she had 3 daysleeps and only two times I ended up giving up so it has improved a little!

Bec - congrats on the chuckle - just makes your heart melt!

Di - LOL about the willy - I have no doubt he will never be taking his hands off it again!!

Rian - well done with the CC - you are tougher than me! Whatever works I agree and if it works for you (which it sounds like it does) all the best for you (I think in the long term it is easier on the mum!)

Jeffy - no. 2 wow!! I dont think I have any chance of convincing DH at the moment! Kayley is our whole lives and especially when she is being really tough I dont think he will support it! I am still in 2 minds myself (also considering we will probably have a hard time falling pg again). Is anyone else thinking about stopping at one??

Mary - short sleeps dont worry me - I think some sleep is better than none. Kayley usually sleeps 45m - 1hr per session (although sometimes longer) and wakes up with a smile on her face and ready for more play so I don't worry too much about resettling. Its the actual going to sleep which is often the problem - sometimes it works and soemtime it doesnt. I used to keep trying until she went to sleep but was pulling my hair out sometimes so now I give it 45m (as long as the sleep should be) and if she is still not asleep I get her out - at the least I am teaching her persistance!!!

Anyway I gotta run - I hope everyone has a good night.

SalTheGal
19-02-2007, 20:08
:wave:

Hi everyone I am back!!!!

I missed you very much and can't wait to go back and catch up on everyones news!! (all 16odd pages of it)

I will just scan everything otherwise I'll be here all night- so if you have any super exciting news let me know, in case I miss it in your previous posts!!

All is well here, lots has happened in the last couple of weeks, Nedd is changing so much everyday at the moment- new tricks all the time which is lots of fun!

Won't go into details now as I really want to go and read up on everything.

I'll be back to post tomorrow hopefully with all our news.

Take care!:hugs:

Sal

lesley
19-02-2007, 21:58
Hey again

we got hugged to day :smiliedance:

i just came on to try and catch up on some post and to say a great big thank you to secret Santa he/she has goooood take it was lovely and a really big thank you i hope you dont think i am rude but i was sure i posted thank you once b4 but it dose not matter anyway kids and baby are a sleep DH is away in the truck (not a truck driver but part owner of one) he wanted to see how it runs so he has gone to taree and we will see him tomorrow night (u should try telling that to ur 4 yr old after a long day at school) she just wanted daddy to stay home and played up when he left .


we are going on 2 weeks with no contact from my mil and that suits me i can tell you she is like the doctor /nurse you go to and they tell you everything u are doing is wrong whether it be medical o not we can do nothing rite and are always compared to my sil and bil and there kids but on the other hand she has a new grand daughter here and shows no interest at all pretty sad if you ask me the three older ones are her main concern

well this has been longer than i expected but i NEEDED to vent sorry ladies


but take care and sleep tight now dont let the bed bugs bite i love that saing

i am in a very strange mood today /night

lucy72
20-02-2007, 03:58
Well Jordan is officially broken.... Since his 4 month needles and his teeth coming through he is not sleeping through the night and waking all the time. I don't know if it I should be getting up to him or what but I am not sleeping..... I don't want to tell Mum as she is straight away suggest Karitane - which I don't want to do. I think a few more sleepless nights are on the agenda for me while I sort through this one.....

Kimba, bad luck on the high chair. I got mine from Toys R Us when they had a sale. It is a Peg Prego one that reclines, goes up and down and also has a part in the middle (between his legs) which is attached to the seat so he can't fall through. I am really pleased with it. It is also has wheels so I can move it around and a washable tray which they say can go in the dishwasher but i am stuffed trying to fit it!!!

Pam, love your sil photographs. Had a quick peek on her website! How did Olivia go with the trip to Brisbane?

Lesley, welcome back!

Sal, 16 pages - well a lot has happened!!! Did you have a good time on your honeymoon?

Mary, glad to hear your father is doing well.

Well I am off - I'd better get some sleep. jordan sounds like he has now gone to sleep which is a relief. We are heading into the city today (first train ride!!) as i have my final bridesmaid fitting. Less than 2 weeks to go - Yahoo - I can't wait

Chat later
Lucy

~Kimba~
20-02-2007, 07:31
Morning! my little angel has just gone back to sleep on my bed (at 8am) - he's sucking in his sleep, obviously dreaming of boobies! Looks soooo cute.

Sleep last night was a bit strange - he was down at 7 with a big bottle (180ml :eek:), then woke crying at 7.30 and really hard to resettle, then 9.30, 11.30 (wanting boob not bottle) and 2. I gave him a 120ml bottle at 2 and he guzzled it down, then slept till 6.15! :yelclap: He didn't want to sleep in bed with me, just lay there cooing and touching/ exploring my face and hair really gently with his little fingers while I tried/ pretended to sleep. Melt!

So the first half of the night was really unsettled and the second half he slept 4 hours. I have to say I liked getting the unbroken sleep at the end of the night for a change - it gave me a chance to feel refreshed after being up and down beforehand.

lucy - :hugs: sorry Jordan isn't sleeping as well now. One of the mums in my mum's group is a ECHN and lactation consultant (she kept that hush hush at first so we didn't bombard her with questions, I think!). She says that it's really common for babies to be suddenly unsettled and refusing sleep/ waking more around the 4 month mark - her son is also doing it after being a brilliant sleeper till now. It's because of all the developmental stuff going on with them. Apparently it'll last a couple of weeks (or in Jet's case, 6 and still going strong! LOL). Oh and I ended up winning a Steelcraft Hi-Lo recliner highchair on eBay for $50 in the end, got to go pick it up from Bondi.

lesley - nice to see you posting again it's cute that your 4yo misses her daddy so much. Sad that your MIL is being like that - what is with all these horrible 'outlaws' we have? - and feel free to vent away here that's what we're all here for!

On the subject of Secret Santa, if Jet's SS is still out there and reads this, better late than never I say! no questions asked LOL. We could really do with a board book or two right now, since he's started grabbing at the pages of his normal books and wrecking them :laughing:

sal - welcome back, we missed you! Glad you had a great honeymoon and that Nedd is being a lot of fun for you.

beck - nice work on the 3 daysleeps! Sometimes DH and I wonder if it would be better to stop at one child, and just give Jet all of our love and attention. Financially would make more sense for us too. But with no family nearby (not mine nor DH's) I think it's important for Jet to have a sibling to be close to and play with. I'd love to give him a little brother or sister. And I'd love a daughter...although another son would be fine too. Anyway we have names picked out already so I think the decision has been made! LOL.

Bec - how lovely your first real laugh! I love our little bubhub group here too. I feel like I know you guys so much better than my real life mother's group. "Youse guys are ACE!" LOL

Aw. Little Man just opened his eyes and smiled at me and now he seems to be going back to sleep. Bless.

beck75
20-02-2007, 09:00
Hi All

Kimba - congrats on the improved sleep - yay! Kayley had a good sleep last night. Down at 8.30 (which is earlier than usual) - rollover feed at 10.30, up for a feed at 2.30 and then slept through to 7.30 when she got up. We sat and watched baby einstein while mum had breaky, had a bit of a play and then back to bed again - yay!!

Sal - welcome back - I hope you had an awesome time! A holiday would be nice at the moment!

Lucy - I know how you feel with the breaking - I have a good couple of days then it all goes down hill again and everything which was working stops working!!!

Well we had a friend with as last night - a bl###dy cricket was hiding in our ensuite and we couldnt find him - geez it was loud and woke me up more times than Kayley did last night!

Well I have been shaped on my broadband connection at the moment after finding a gret site for downloading TV shows so I have upped my download limit and now have to wait until 1st March until I can start going download crazy!!! So much easier than trying to remember to tape shows (as all the good ones are on around Kayleys bedtime) and I can get up to date with the US too - yay!!

Well thats it for me for now - Kayley will be up any second I am sure!

~Kimba~
20-02-2007, 15:35
wow quiet in here today.

Beck that sleep of Kayleys last night was awesome :yelclap: I hope she keeps it up and I wish Jet would start doing that!

I just took Jet for a walk because we were both bored and I dropped in at the ECHC to weigh him on their scales. Hello, 8.65kg!!! :eek: that's clothed though. I'm going to weigh what he was wearing and hope it weighs at least 200g or so.

Still, clothed or not, what a little porker :o I don't think I'm overfeeding him, especially not in the day, but since he's still gaining so much weight he could clearly do without all the night feeds he insists on, and especially without the topup bottles at night. But without them he won't settle and won't sleep, and acts like he's starving!

So there's my dilemma - to top up or not to top up? LOL. Maybe I should just water down his night-time topup bottles so he thinks he's getting a lot but actually isn't! I have an appt with the ECHN to discuss all this, but they can't see me till next week.

Blah blah :ecomcity: it's hot again here today. I think I might go have some icecream!

GeorgiaAnne
20-02-2007, 16:10
mmm, ice cream yummy. It is stinky today isn't it?
I've had so much work to do today and i'm feeling v. stressed. We've changed our minds now about ttc as if I got pg now it would be the same as last year and dh would be sooo busy with christmas etc so we have decided to try for a feb/march baby. I have been up the last two nights needing to wee so maybe i'm too late lol.:eek:
Kimba - Isn't it amazing about boys as Jet and Sophia started at nearly the same weight and now he is 2 kg heavier! Maybe it's time to lose a night feed, how you do that i don't know. Have you looked the baby whisperer yet? There is stuff about that esp. in "The Baby Whisperer solves all your Problems"
Beck - lol about the cricket, it must've been so annoying.
bbl, sorry crying baby

sare
20-02-2007, 16:11
Hi girls,

It is quiet in here today...where is everyone? (probably busy with their babies :laughing: )

Yesterday was my crazy shopping day...drove almost an hour to go shopping down Bridge Rd to find a top to wear for Lara's Baptism and of course I couldn't find anything. We decided to stop at a shopping centre that we always go to on the way home and wouldn't you guess, I found something there. So at least I've got something now.

The girls are driving me bonkers at the moment. Eloise is being a really little bossy boots to everyone. Poor Lara was playing with a toy and accidently kept on pressing a green button that kept on playing music and Little Miss Bossy is on her case saying "No Lara, don't do that. Press the red buton". I'm often hearing "No mummy, don't do that" God help us when she's a teenager. Lara has been really fussy since Saturday, not feeding well, screaming (and I mean a high pitched scream) when she doesn't want any more. I think I'm just grumpy because I'm tired. Most nights I'm getting between midnight and 6 or 7 (and I feel bad for whinging after what some of you are going through and especially you Kimba), but that's it no nanna naps and definitely no sleep-ins as Eloise usually co-ordinates her wake up time with when I am putting Lara back down for her 1st sleep of the day :banghead: .

Kimba - That's wonderful news about some positive steps forward with Jet's sleep. :fingerscrossed: It keps on improving. Wow on Jet's weight gain. He's obviously doing really well. Try watering down his top ups and see what happens (hopefully it doesn't affect his newly improved sleeping habits).

Beck - So what are you watching? I'm thinking of downloading the new series of the Amazing Race with the All Stars. I think it started this weekend in the States. Yay to Kayley for sleeping so well last night.

Sal - welcome back. Hope you had a lovely honeymoon. I agree with Beck, a holiday would be divine just about now. Can't wait to hear about what Nedd's up to now.

Lucy - Sorry to hear that Jordan is having a rough time with his needles and teeth. The pole dancing sounds like a blast.

Lesley - sorry to hear that you are having a tough time with your MIL.

I will try to be back later for personals. It's dh's b'day today and I'm going to make him a spinach and ricotta pasta bake for dinner. He and Eloise can enjoy it, while I hve my grilled chicken and steamed vegies.

Ooops, just been summoned...Eloise has just woken from a mega nap.

~Kimba~
20-02-2007, 19:01
I baked some muffins yesterday and they're almost all gone. It was DH I swear, it wasn't me! Mind you the next batch will be orange poppyseed and those I might not be able to resist...

Jet's outfit and nappy today weighed almost 300g so at least he only weighs 8.35kg :laughing:

I had a brainwave today and bought a different formula for Jet's evening topups to see how that goes. Because he started sleeping poorly at night around the time I changed him to NAN HA (which is an 'easily digested' formula). I don't know if that made any difference to his sleeping or not, but if it's more easily digested then maybe it isn't keeping him feeling 'full and sleepy', and maybe that's also why he's putting on heaps of weight? you never know. So tonight I'm trialling him on an organic formula that I found :fingerscrossed:


Most nights I'm getting between midnight and 6 or 7 (and I feel bad for whinging after what some of you are going through and especially you Kimba)

So you should feel bad! LMAO just kidding!!! I know it must feel awful for you, and I understand how tiring it is especially when you have TWO little monkeys to look after all day (and I can't even imagine how tiring that is!). But right now I would sell my soul :devil6: for a chunk of unbroken sleep that long.

Happy BDay to your DH sare, hope he enjoys his dinner that's a big sacrifice you're making to cook something so lush when you can't eat it!

Georgia - sorry that you're stressed you poor love. It's hard working out when to TTC isn't it. Feb/March isn't so bad, bub would be a Piscean, that's pretty nice! Although do you really want to be 9 months pg at this time of year when it's at it's hottest...hmmm...

:eek: Jet has just woken absolutely screaming I wonder what's up - it sounds like he's terrified or in pain or both! DH has gone to him but it sounds like a job for mummy. Talk to you guys tomorrow!

lesley
20-02-2007, 19:54
hey all i am back
i have just posted in both the growth and milestones pages gee how are bubs are growing there is so much going on in there and over here as well i eadlly have not done any thing toay (well nothing to write about ) execpt watch montanah roll acoss my lounge room floor she is so proud of her self and so are we

well take care all

lesley:angel:

beck75
20-02-2007, 21:01
Hi All

Just a quick catch up before bed.

Kimba - have you tried substituting some of the night feeds for water?? May help. Otherwise it may be just working out how to get him back to sleep without a feed (coming from someone who has fed to sleep 3 times today but at least we have had sleep!)

Sare - All I downloaded was an episode of heroes while learning to use this site plus a couple of conversion programs until I found one which converted the avi file to DVD format. I downgraded my download limit last month to save money but it is too low) especially now I am downloading shows) - DH also used a lot on U Tube which was what put us over the limit! I am planning on downloading heroes, lost, greys anatomy as a start and will go from there!

Lesley - you should be proud! Kayley is not looking anywhere near rolling but her sitting is getting better all the time! Backwards child me thinks!!

Well thats it for me for now - I need to veg for a bit before going to sleep.

sare
20-02-2007, 21:44
Me again :p ,

Guess what the little poppet gave her daddy for his birthday...her first roll (back to tummy) :yelclap: Of course we missed it, as we were playing with his ipod.

Sending sleepy vibes to all of our babies.

ikis84
21-02-2007, 07:04
Bec... I have downloaded all of heroes (well, it's up to ep 15 in the states) - it is awesome! Are you sure that your DVD player doesn't play divx files? Mine does, which means I don't have to convert them, and can fit about 10 episodes on one DVD... I think that most new DVD players do.