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Friendly
30-01-2007, 20:49
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No I don't think it's appropriate.
There is a difference between a glass of wine and getting trashed, but can't people abstain for one night for the sake of their kids?
I do not think it is appropriate! I also hate how alot of school fetes have a beer tent or a bar too!
I also hate how alot of school fetes have a beer tent or a bar too!
It's probably where they make the most money! :thumbsdown:
Hokey Pokey
30-01-2007, 20:53
Why would you even bother is what I'd be asking..:rolleyes:
InSaneOne
30-01-2007, 20:53
i can understand a beer tent at a school fete. but at a primary school disco - no way.:shame:
iluvmeboyz
30-01-2007, 20:54
thats silly having beer at fetes what are they teaching kids to drink or something how pathetic.
at a disco:no: at a fete:no: at any of your children's functions:no:
I don't think it is approopiate. Unless it's a celebration.. b'day, christening etc
damien's mum
30-01-2007, 20:56
No way, i don't think it's right at all... Not when the children are there... :shame:
Buddha Bubbas
30-01-2007, 20:57
no i dont think its appropriate. its a school function not a night on the town :shame:
Hokey Pokey
30-01-2007, 21:02
Yes beer tents at a school fete? Whatever happened to the days of a school fete being about the "school" and the children there?
Nope, I don't like that idea at all...tho I know DH would love it, at least he would go if he knew he could have a drink or 2 while he was there.
The reason I think it's a bad idea is that someone has to drive the kids home and there are plenty of kids with parents who don't think twice about driving after they have been drinking...
Beer tents at fetes, they don't bother me as much coz hopefully the people serving the drinks know when to tell people they have had enough and stop serving them :fingerscrossed:
Totally agree with you PN. :yes:
tanni_83
30-01-2007, 21:16
public school?? govermnent propery??
isnt it illigal at any event to consume alcohol or smoke in these places, i thought so :confused:
Friendly
30-01-2007, 21:17
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Friendly
30-01-2007, 21:19
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Friendly
30-01-2007, 21:27
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Squiggles
30-01-2007, 21:34
ok..
I might seem really over the top here..
BUT I think that while you are in charge of kids you shoudl not be drinking.
There should lways be a parent who is sober and able to be responsible.
there is a time and place.
I have no problem with a parent drinking..I mean just cos you have kids does not mean you have to give up a life..
BUT it is quite easy to balance an adult life with kids i dont see why you would have to merge them.
If I do want to go out for a night I get someone else or DH to babysit..so that it is seperate fro my kids.
anyway thats just my opinion.
:thumbsup: Couldn't agree more
I used to work for an alcohol company and we would often get schools ringing up asking if we could donate the use of our marquee, (or in some cases they offered to pay until they found out how much it cost us to get it set up - it was a HUGE one). I was amazed at how many - both primary and high schools.
We had a company policy thought that as we were an alcohol company we didn't allow our marquee to be used on school grounds due to the fact that all the students were obviously underaged!!
TeamAwesome
30-01-2007, 22:35
I don't think its appropriate it at all! I agree with PN... what happens if there is a car accident on the way home from this sort of function, with a "drunk" parent at the wheel, then I bet the school would take a step back!
Mamaduke
30-01-2007, 22:36
I don't have a problem with it.
Alcohol is not illegal.
At Jesse's school (Catholic) the school puts on a welcome BBQ for the entire school at the beginning of the year and it states on the flyer BYO alcohol. At their Prep information evening there were 3 types of beverages on offer...white wine, red wine or champagne - no one got drunk or even tipsy from what I could see.
A couple of drinks doesn't necessarily render one incapable of being a responsible parent.
But then I guess that's Catholics for 'ya...we love a drink!;)
isnt it illegal to consume alcohol ina public place without the venue holding a liquor licence? :thumbsdown:
thats not a church or school id want to have teaching my kids.
the_queen
30-01-2007, 22:41
isnt it illegal to consume alcohol ina public place without the venue holding a liquor licence? :thumbsdown:
thats not a church or school id want to have teaching my kids.
I absolutely agree, that's just what I was going to say.
SassyMummy
30-01-2007, 22:55
I think it's inappropriate, and I agree with PN too. If I'm going to drink, I make a point of putting DD to bed first (she pretty much never wakes up of a night time unless she's ill) and making sure there's someone else (who's sober) to take care of her if she wakes up/in the morning. I don't EVER handle her if I've been drinking... even though I hardly ever drink, and when I do, I'm normally not at home.
I think it's absolutely irresponsible to be serving alcohol at a SCHOOL event... especially since there are due to be HEAPS of children around (perhaps even outnumbering the adults).
I'm sure a lot of parents would drink responsibly, but there'd be at least one who didn't. That one person could do a bit of harm - whether it be as little as stumbling around, vomitting in the garden, or swearing in front of the kids... or as bad as getting behind the wheel (perhaps with child passengers). Either way, it's not the kind of family environment I'd like my child to be in.
IMO, there's a reason why clubs don't allow children. It's not because of the noise... it's not because of the late nights... it's because of the booze, and the way people behave when booze is involved.
Mamaduke
30-01-2007, 23:07
thats not a church or school id want to have teaching my kids.
Well fortunately for us the parents don't do any of the teaching!
When everyone talks about 'drinking' some of you are very adamant that you won't even touch your child after 'drinking'...how many drinks are we talking...a couple...or non compos?
Boomerang
31-01-2007, 07:58
I don't have a problem with it.
Alcohol is not illegal.
At Jesse's school (Catholic) the school puts on a welcome BBQ for the entire school at the beginning of the year and it states on the flyer BYO alcohol. At their Prep information evening there were 3 types of beverages on offer...white wine, red wine or champagne - no one got drunk or even tipsy from what I could see.
A couple of drinks doesn't necessarily render one incapable of being a responsible parent.
But then I guess that's Catholics for 'ya...we love a drink!;)
I don't think it is really about people getting drunk.
My 'problem' with alchohol being served at school functions or other childrens events stems directly from the fact that it is illegal to allow children in areas where alchohol is being served.
There are reasons the 18+ laws were introduced, how likely it is that problems will arise is irrelevant. the law exists, therefore we should abide by it.
Personally, I dont consider a thin plastic tape tied between poles adequate separation and I am yet to see one of these temporary bars WITHOUT children inside the adults only area.
At one recent school fete I saw the bar and soft drink counter were seperated only by a tables corner. The 'sausage sizzle' left children lining up alongside adults at the bar. The only seating supplied was inside the 'bar' area and when it rained, every person (including children) were directed to that supposedly adults only section.
I couldn't say if anything went wrong, we left as soon as it became obvious the rain would not stop.
What i can say is that on our way through the crowd we saw dozens of white plastic picnic cups half full of wine and beer left on tables where very young children were playing (some of whom were obviously un-supervised).
Now, I can guarantee that my children will not drink from a cup that is not theirs but none of us can guarantee the same for someone elses child.
I don't think it is really about people getting drunk.
My 'problem' with alchohol being served at school functions or other childrens events stems directly from the fact that it is illegal to allow children in areas where alchohol is being served.
There are reasons the 18+ laws were introduced, how likely it is that problems will arise is irrelevant. the law exists, therefore we should abide by it.
Personally, I dont consider a thin plastic tape tied between poles adequate separation and I am yet to see one of these temporary bars WITHOUT children inside the adults only area.
At one recent school fete I saw the bar and soft drink counter were seperated only by a tables corner. The 'sausage sizzle' left children lining up alongside adults at the bar. The only seating supplied was inside the 'bar' area and when it rained, every person (including children) were directed to that supposedly adults only section.
I couldn't say if anything went wrong, we left as soon as it became obvious the rain would not stop.
What i can say is that on our way through the crowd we saw dozens of white plastic picnic cups half full of wine and beer left on tables where very young children were playing (some of whom were obviously un-supervised).
Now, I can guarantee that my children will not drink from a cup that is not theirs but none of us can guarantee the same for someone elses child.
I am fairly positive you can get temprary liqour licenses for events such as school fetes, and I had thought that if people were bringing BYO alcohol with the permission of the school board, that this also is legal.
However - your story about the half filled glasses of alcohol being left on tables around children is pretty bloody scary!!! That's just downright irresponsible isn't it?? I would expect that if a school feel that they must have alcohol somewhere they would be taking the strictest precautions to ensure the safety of the school students and there brothers and sisters - especially any younger siblings they may have. And it sounds like they came nowhere close to ensuring this!!
jessgray
31-01-2007, 08:46
my ds's arent school aged yet so i dont have much knowledge on school fetes etc. but i guess schools are so desperate for funding for stuff they will do anything to get money.:(
i would only have a problem if they was really trashed ppl there :shame: a few drinks is ok but getting trashed round kids isnt
my ds's arent school aged yet so i dont have much knowledge on school fetes etc. but i guess schools are so desperate for funding for stuff they will do anything to get money.:(
i would only have a problem if they was really trashed ppl there :shame: a few drinks is ok but getting trashed round kids isnt
Jessgray you have hit the nail on the head. Alcohol is a big money spinner for schools that is why they sell it. They can get temporary liquor licenses for this purpose. It is easier and much less work than a chocolate drive.
It is just symptomatic of the lack of Government funding for schools and that P&Cs will do anything to make sure the kids get the best resources they can afford. Unfortunate but that is the truth.
I have been to heaps of school functions and I have never seen any trashed parents, it probably does happen I have just not seen it.
Angelmist♥
31-01-2007, 09:50
Yes beer tents at a school fete? Whatever happened to the days of a school fete being about the "school" and the children there?
Ha ha all of our school fete's had alcohol tents when I was growing up.It was just the 'norm' and where you could find all the dads.
My 'problem' with alchohol being served at school functions or other childrens events stems directly from the fact that it is illegal to allow children in areas where alcohol is being served.
Sorry Boomerang, I don't think it is illegal for children to be somewhere where alcohol is served.If it is, every single pub/club/restaurant in my town should be shut down.I know kids aren't allowed into the public bars but they are in the lounge areas.
I don't agree with serving alcohol at school functions or even being allowed to take alcohol into the school grounds.While DH loves his beer (he's not a drunk before anyone starts) he certainly has no problem with being completely sober for our children's events.
Friendly
31-01-2007, 15:31
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Have you complained to the principal? I think you should write a letter outlining your concerns and also copy the letter to the President of your school P&C.
If you don't say anything nothing changes. Others parents might agree with and are either too afraid or apathetic to speak up. I know my children would be devastated if I said no more school functions.
Friendly
31-01-2007, 19:33
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