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Katcha

24-01-2007, 21:52

Alrighty, got my broadband up & running now, so will be able to get onto bubhub a bit more regularly now.
I notice from the old thread a lot of the bubs have been a bit accident-prone. Well, the same with little Katelyn. She's had quite a few bumps & scratches in the last week. I came home today & there was a nice new one on hew nose. Poor little thing.
She's been in the pool with us a few times. Haven't taken her for any swimming lessons yet. At the moment we just happy to have her sitting in her little floaty in the pool with us.
Katelyn's babbling a lot now. She's been saying "daddy" for ages but has recently started to say "mum" & I think she's now saying "bunny" (we've got a couple of rabbits she she hears that word quite abit).
She loves her bath time & has her baths in the big spa bath with either myself or the hubby. She loves splashing the water all over the place & gets upset when she has to get out.
We're trying to get her to eat finger food now....meal times are lots of fun....she seems to like transferring her food from the plate to the table & back again....occasionally some will go in her mouth!
Is anyone else's toddlers still drinking their milk from a bottle? I've tried Katelyn with those sipper cup things but she hasn't really taken to them. She'll drinka bit of water from a cup though, with me holding it & most of the water ending up all down her top!
She's finally got a couple of teeth. I thought she'd never get them the way she was going! Her 1st one popped up just before she was 14 months & the 2nd one not long after....no signs of a 3rd on yet.
Anway, that's all for now...I think I've babbled on long enough. :)

Ange&Seth

24-01-2007, 22:04

Hi guys :wave:

Can't believe we've filled up another thread!!! Gosh we must talk alot! LOL.

Well, tonight I got to go out by myself! I am a member of the Inter-Pub Team Pool Comp Committee and we had to meet to try and work out what's happening this season. I ended up playing in the individual comp at the pub we were meeting at, and guess what? I came second which meant $40 cash in my back pocket! :laughing: I love playing pool!

Seth was a real terror today. Just into absolutely everything! He actually smashed a bottle of red nail polish in the bathroom, which was oh so much fun to clean up :rolleyes: While I was cleaning that up, he shut himself in the laundry. Ok, no problems, nothing he can get into except the washing. But, when I went to get him out, he'd managed to manouver the washing hampers behind the door AND thread the mop handle through the bottom of them, so I had to fight my way in there before I could even get him out!!

We've had puppies!! We have 3 cute little pups at the moment, they are only 5 days old and already have grown so much! Now we have to find homes for them.

Lou - glad to hear that Maddi's better after her fall.

Tan - don't worry about feeling like you're sookier than Will, I feel that way most days!! I think we're entitled to it!

Anna - how cheeky is Immy with the tissues? Seth's big fascination is the toilet paper! Have to make sure we keep the door closed otherwise the entire roll gets dumped on the floor.

Katelyn's Mum - glad to see you back Chic!

Hayles - i've already told you today, but Coops looks so much older in that pic!!

Question for those of you who give your kids icypoles, how do they go holding on to them? We've tried to give Seth one but he cries cos it's too cold to hold onto, so what do you do? Wrap something around it for them to hang on to?

Wivi

25-01-2007, 06:20

Hi there,

This'll be quick because I am sure Will is going to be awake very shortly.

Ange - Will loves icypoles but will not hold them either. I give them to him piece by piece. It's silly because I think he held the first one I ever gave him but it has been a no go ever since.

Cath - :yelclap: for Paddy walking. That's funny that he does it when you tell him too. Very Cute.

Ange - Will shuts himself in the laundry too. He is a bit obsessed with doors actually. He loves to open and close them (well, almost close).

Lou - So glad Maddi's head is better. They bounce back well from their little accidents.

Anna - those pictures are funny of Immy. She has that real "I know I am doing something naughty but I don't care" expression in the first one. Classic. We can do a trade off - you send me a cake and I'll send you some pikelets ok?

Hayley - so glad you kissed and made up!

Katelyn's Mum - Will still drinks milk from a bottle. he has water in a cup and is great with it but refuses to drink milk from a cup at all. He just gives me dirty looks when I try and gives the cup back. I don't even try to give him a plate either. Any finger food is straight off the highchair table and a bit at a time otherwise there is food everywhere!

hmm - going to go now, maybe I can squeeze some breaky in before Will wakes up. Somehow I doubt it.

bingo

25-01-2007, 07:59

Ange, its only the first time Maddi an an icypole so we might have the same issues as you next time she has one. The idea of wrapping something around it sounds good, maybe one of Maddi's small socks :laughing: . $40 :yelclap: Well done on that win Ange. You must have fancy tricks up your sleeve. I can't play pool unless I've had a few brewskies, it must relax me enough to not try too hard (does that make sense)? Nail Polish would be so hard to clean up. How the hell did you do that?
As for closing doors, yes I have one of those babies here. Except Maddi freaks once she has closed the door and starts screaming because all of a sudden she's locked in/out. Its really frustrating for me as well as her. Oooo puppies!!! How cute. Can you put a photo up for us to see?
Katelyns mum its great to hear from you. Broadband it the best isn't it! Maddi's been chowing down on finger food for a while now. She just reached a time where she wouldn't eat mushy stuff. Her fav is chicken and apple meatballs, and of course spag bol. Maddi is feeding herself with a fork and spoon from a bowl. We bought a set of 3 bowls from Coles that have a suction cup on the bottom of the bowl. They cost about $17 but welll worth it. The suction stops her tipping the bowl over. There is still a lot of mess but I bought one of those bibs with the scoop an it catches most of the food. She started off pretty messy but these days she's pretty good.
Tan, I hope you got your brekkie this morning. I find the mornings and evenings are so hard to juggle everything. My Dad is coming up again to stay for a week so I'm looking forward to that. He makes me coffee in the morning and brekkie and plays with Maddi so I can get heaps of stuff done. Its hard when DH is at work. I can't wait for fridays public holiday.
Hayley, good to hear you and Trent are snuggling. Renovating would be so stressful and you guys have been doing it for a while. But its like you say, your putting in the hard yards now to make things easier for later. DH and I have been arguing heaps and all we're doing is the backyard and getting the floors done! I can't wait until its all done.
Not sure what we are doing today. But one of my friends is heading to Daylesford on Saturday and wants me to meet her for afternoon tea. its only 45 minutes away and it will be great to get away and catch up. Which reminds me I should call her back. Hayley, I might pop out to kmart today so I'll have a look for that radio for you. Did you ask your local kmart if they could ring around and order it in for you? I also meant to ask you about your sesame street characters. Did you end up completing Coopers collection?
anna - where are you?
Cath - how is Paddy's walking going today?
Oh, has anyone seen that show Oobi? I don't know about you guys but it really creeps me out. And it really annoys me that they don't talk properly. In saying that Maddi has just raced to the tv to watch it.

Ange&Seth

25-01-2007, 10:30

Hi guys

here is my first attempt at posting a link to photobucket.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u157/seths_mummy/100_1246.jpg

This SHOULD be a pic of our puppies. It's not a great one, but it's the only one I've got at the moment. They are only about 3 hours old in this one, and I'll just warn you that the sheet they are on isn't too 'clean' IYKWIM in one corner, so if that sort of stuff bothers you, probably best to wait til I get a better pic of them. I'm really hoping it works cos if it doesn't I have no idea how to make it work :laughing:

bingo

25-01-2007, 10:37

Awwww! How cute:)

hayleylea

25-01-2007, 10:48

Ange - congrats on the winning pool and i must say your puppies are so cute!!! Goodluck finding them new homes. As for the ice blocks. It doesnt bother Cooper holding onto them at all...he eats the super dooper ones or he will eat ice blocks on a stick and just hold onto the stick! A bubs sock around the bottom of them is a top idea Lou! :thumbsup: You can actually get proper things for them - they are like beer coolers but icey pole holders. Have a look in the supermarket i think ive seen them in coles or woolies before!

Katelyns mum! YAY you have broadband! we look forward to catching up with you more! Cooper still drinks his milk from a bottle..He drinks water all day (one cup of very watered down juice aswell once a day) He actually drinks out of straw cups now rather then sippy cups. Has been for awhile. I have tried giving him milk in them...he isnt too fussed by it so i just stick to the bottle.

Cooper had a bit of a weird night last night. He woke up at 11 and didnt go back to sleep till 2oclock! (i wasnt up with him all that time) He cried so i went in and picked him up and he was farting away so i thought he had a tummy ache. Gave him a 5 minute cuddle and put him back to bed - wide awake - and i heard him in there playing then silence till about 11.40 and he screamed again...wouldnt stop sobbing so went in again and he was sitting up in his cot cuddling his teddy...i picked him up and he gave me the biggest cuddle ever so i sat on the lounge with him for a little while and then popped him to bed again where he talked and yelled up mum again...got up to a screaming Cooper AGAIN at 1.45 and decided to put him in bed with me so i could get some sleep! WELL Cooper had other ideas - he pulled my nose, giggled and kept slapping Daddys back and pulling his teddys tail (which plays music), sitting up, trying to jump on the bed :eek: So into bed he went, he screamed and screamed and i let him go for about 15 minutes till i couldnt take it anymore. He was soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sad and sobbing his heart out - it nearly made me want to cry. I have no idea what was wrong with him! So i ended up sitting on the lounge with him and i sang him a song and he was straight to sleep. He got up at 9 this morning. He is happy as larry so i think he was just having a bad night....not to worry - these things happens. I was actually incredibly calm about the whole thing. I just felt bad because he was sad.

All is good today, Im not too tired and Cooper doesnt seem to be too tired either! Hopefully he has a big sleep today!

Anyway I better get going and try and get this boy to have some lunch before he goes into snooze land! Talk soon guys!

Katcha

25-01-2007, 11:19

Ange, those puppies are just ADORABLE! Shouldn't be too hard to find homes for those cuties. :)

Hayley, sorry to hear about Cooper having a bad night. Hopefully he'll have a good sleep tonight. Katelyn's normally pretty good at night. Most of the time just sleeps right through. But occasionally she starts shrieking in the middle of the night & won't go back to sleep. So hubby brings her into bed with us & she normally calms down. Although somtimes she'll decide that it's more fun to slap mummy on the nose & not let mummy get back to sleep when she has to work the next day!

Well, it's certainly good to hear that other toddlers Katelyn's age are still drinking milk from a bottle. As for her food, she still prefers the mushy stuff to her finger food. Her favourite is the sweetcorn & chicken in the little heinz jars which is recommended for 4-6months!

hayleylea

25-01-2007, 11:25

Katelyns mum, Cooper is usually great during the night (especially since he got all his teeth!) he usually sleeps 7-7 no worries. Something was up with him last night though, maybe something he ate during the day. As for food, Cooper loves to feed himself so he loves finger foods. He eats just about anything we eat, he does have his fussy days though!

He is in bed now...out like a light!

Wivi

25-01-2007, 16:26

Katelyn's Mum - your little girl looks like such a cutie! Will is mostly a finger food boy these days, although he has been having a bit more mushy stuff lately because of those horrible molars! Will is also a good night sleeper but occasionally has a night like the one Hayley described for last night - usually after a few days away in a different environment or lots and lots of excitement.

Ange - those puppies look pretty cute. I hope you find homes for them soon. What does Seth think of them?

Hayley - well done on staying calm last night. That sounds a lot like the night we had before we came home from Phillip Island - they just go nuts sometimes don't they?

Oh - I bought one of those suction bowls for Will today. DH is not impressed as it took Will the whole of 30 seconds to pull it off the tray. Looks like no bowl for Will for a while yet. I am so impressed that Maddi eats with a fork and spoon. Man she is clever. Will is probably going to be eating with his hands when he is 10. :eek:

Well - I hope you all have great long weekends. We might go to visit some friends tomorrow who brought their son home last week - he was 6 weeks premmie and stayed 3.5 weeks in the hospital before coming home. When we visited him in the hospital he was in special care and all we could see was a foot waving in the air at us!

bingo

25-01-2007, 16:30

Oh no! Today is Maddi's turn to get her molars. I found some sharp pointy bits on her upper gums and man is she grumpy today. Right now she is having a second nap for today which means she will be up late tonight. Oh well. Hayley, we didn't make it to Kmart today sorry. I'll try again on Saturday. I ended up in Target today and tried on heaps of stuff but was having a "fat" day and didn't like anything. But I did buy Maddi a pair of dunlop volleys for $12. They are sooooo cute.
I forgot to answer your question Katelyns mum (Is your name Karen?), yes Maddi still has her night bottle of milk and I think there would be hell to pay if I took that off her. The other milk feeds are in the heinz sippy cups. Although we did buy as $2 platic cup with straw from Coles last week and Maddi loves it. I think its the whole novelty of drinking from a straw.
Well I better go and think about what is for dinner as little miss sore gums is going to wake soon and will be demanding dinner soon enough. I'm in a rut with my cooking menu. Can't think of exciting stuff to cook to save myself.

bingo

25-01-2007, 16:32

Oh no Tan, I can't believe Will pulled the bowl off! Man he must be determined. Maybe tie one of his hands bbehind his back?:laughing:

Moorish

25-01-2007, 17:31

Hi! I'm back!
Been busy all day preparing for tomorrow, running errands, buying stuff etc.

Scan went well - have my major scan in 3 weeks time at 20 weeks.
And yes. . . we found out today what we're having.
Anyone interested?! :laughing:

Drum roll please. . . . .

Moorish

25-01-2007, 17:58

:smiliedance: IT'S A BOY!!!!:smiliedance:

Katcha

25-01-2007, 18:11

Bingo, I know all about "fat" days...I've been having them since christmas! Tied a whole lot of clothes on in the post-chrismas sales & just walked out disgusted with my jelly rolls. :( No, my name's not Karen, it's Renee. :p

Chenicimo, glad your scan went well and congrats on a boy! You've got 3 girls already right?

hayleylea

25-01-2007, 18:34

OMG Im soooooo excited for you Anna!!!!!! CONGRATS on finding out that your expecting a boy! You must be over the moon!!!!!! :smiliedance: :smiliedance: Im soooooooooo happy for you!!!

Moorish

25-01-2007, 20:35

Hi again girls!

Well I'm just leaving you all a final post for a while as I'll be off first thing tomorrow morning - jetsetting to QLD - WOW! That time has sure gone fast!

Again, I apologise for not writing you all individual posts but I seem to be running out of time tonight and have so much to do!

Thanks to everyone who has put up with me the last couple of days, I had a little freak out there but here's the plan for the next 10 days.

I'm going to QLD tomorrow and flying into Melb on Wednesday as normal, but instead of flying through to Hobart I'm going to crash at Tracey's (twoblue) for the night! :smiliedance: (Too bad I can't drink! :laughing: ) Thursday morning, Shane is going to fly up and meet me in Melb. We'll get the car and spend 2 nights in Melb then travel back on a day sail on the boat on Saturday. Kids are taken care of, Shane's got extra time off and we'll get some time together before the baby arrives! I'm still not 100% convinced with this plan but Shane seems to think it will work so we'll just have to go with it.

I'd better head off as I have a lot to do. Geez I'm going to miss you girls! Don't talk too much without me! Otherwise it'll take me a week to catch up!
Be good! Nobody fall pregnant until I get back! And I don't want to see any of our kiddies on eBay in the meantime! LOL!:laughing:

Love you!
xoxo

bingo

26-01-2007, 08:03

Anna CONGRATULATIONS
I was sooooo excited reading your post! Now your going to have to start buying those boy clothes ect and selling the girls stuff. Shane must be proud as punch. Have a great time in QLD. Have lotsa fun with Fi.
Renee, stuffed if I know why I thought your name was karen? Sorry 'bout that. The whole clothes thing is so depressing. Especially seeing as most of the fashion these days is less is more! We're heading to Torquay in Feb so I was looking for bathers. That shopping spree lasted all of 5 minutes after I tried on my first pair of bathers and walked out without any. I think I might just don the boardies and a t-shirt.

hayleylea

26-01-2007, 10:15

HI guys

Hope everyone has a great Aussie day!! We are having a little bbq here, just us, mum and my sister and her hubby and kids. Should be good. Ive been busy preparing the salads and cleaning up this morning. My devil :devil6: of a dog (roxy the rotty) chewed my mop up! NAUGHTY DOG! She has been so good too! I made my discovery when i went to get it cause i needed to mop the floors....so I had to get down on all fours and wash them that way! lol. I must tell you I feel sorry for Cooper when he was a crawler! Man those tiles hurt!! (maybe its just my old bones that cant take it :o :laughing: )

Anna have a great time in QLD!

Lou - love your new Av! So cute. Maddi looks grown up there...they are all getting so big now arent they..loosing there little baby looks and growing into little boys/girls. Almost brings a tear to my eye!:crying:

Anyway im off - almost beer O'clock time!! C'mon how can it be Aussie day if you dont have a beer? lol. We are doing a lamb roast on the bbq and good old snags and salads...mmmm making me hungry!

Have a nice day!

cath

26-01-2007, 12:19

Oh Anna how exciting that this one is a boy. Won't he be a doted on little boy by his 3 big sisters. Have a great time in Qld (and Melbourne) - sounds like you are almost going to need a rest when you get home. It's great that you and Shane are getting some time together and how exciting about the new car.

Hayley the BBQ sounds great. The perfect thing to do on Australia day. We are having friends for lunch tomorrow so I am doing some cooking today and Dean is out mowing the lawns and picking up dog poo - you day sounds much better.

Renee Paddy is still having 200ml of milk in a bottle when he first wakes up and before he goes to bed. I tried to change this to a sippy bottle thing but he didn't want a bar of it. He does drink some milk (probably about 50mls) out of a cup during the day sometimes (I am slack and don't offer it to him every day -probably only a couple of times a week). I know the MCHN said he should be phasing out of bottles now but I am not too worried. I don't really know any babies this age who are not having bottles anymore. I'm happy for him to have them for a few more months yet.

Tan Paddy manages to pull the suction bowls off as well so he is not allowed control of bowls/plates yet (they get flung away staright away if he gets a chance). Have fun visiting the little baby -might make you all clucky again.

Ange those puppies are so cute -what kind of dogs are they?

Lou I refuse to wear bather's on their own -way too scary. I am a big fan of the board shorts which still don't look great but better than exposing my huge white thighs. Have you hired a place in Torquay or do you know someone with a house or something? Sounds good. I think I might start planning another holiay sometime soon - want to get one in before baby 2 arrives in July.

Paddy took some more steps today. I didn't see it but Dean said he was encouraging him to do it and he managed a few. He didn't do any yesterday -we had a busy day running around and when we were home he was too busy walking around the house behind his walker -he loves it and just walks around behind this thing for ages going in and out of every room.

Little man has just woken up. Better go.

Cath

MrsMiggins

26-01-2007, 12:57

Mm-hmm! I'm hearing you guys on the whole fat thing!! I'm a whale at the moment, and nope - sadly it is not at all all baby!!

Oh flipin' heck!!! Claire's just woken up!!! Grrrrr!!!!! Just as I was settling in to post properly for once!!! DAMMIT!!! She's only been having like 1/2 to 1 hour sleeps for the past few days. I am very upset that my lovely 2-3 hours of peace & quiet seem to be gone!!

OK then just really quickly - CONGRATS Anna on your little boy, but I'll chat to you more when I see you this week! :D

Renee, yes, Claire still has bottles and as Cath said, I'm not worried at all about it. I used to be (my CHN gives me the guilt-trip about it :rolleyes:) but I've given up caring. She'll get rid of the bottle when she's good & ready. She has two a day - one in the morning as soon as she wakes up (I have to give it to her on the change table!!) and one to go to sleep at night (naughty, naughty I know, but I don't give a stuff!!) I don't even bother offering her a cup - can't be bothered with the mess! lol

BTW guys - my new av pic is Claire in this really gorgeous rabbit ear dressing gown that Ange sent down for her. Thanks Ange!!! :D

Tsk! OK, Can't even post as much as I wanted to - She Who Must Be Obeyed is demanding my urgent attention NOW!!!

Wivi

26-01-2007, 15:28

Hehe - I'm with you guys and the boardies! I know I am not fat so I won't make any claims in that area but I am just about the whitest person any of you would have ever seen and I am not exposing those thighs to the public!

I forgot to mention that Will has finally worked out how to suck out of a straw. I thought that was exciting. I wonder why all the nurses are so pushy about getting rid of bottles. It seems to me that in the past it was fairly normal for bubs to have them up to 2 years of age. I think that if they are not walking around with them then it doesn't matter. Will lies down and has his two per day on his fold out lounge and I don't really see the problem. I haven't actually tried the milk in a cup thing for a while, it is just something that really doesn't bother me at all.

Fi - Will has been having shorter daay sleeps in the last week too. I am putting it down to those molars. It's annoying but he has been sleeping well at night so I guess I'll just live with it. Only thing is it has made the daycare discussion thrive again because I haven't been able to get any paperwork done.

We actually didn't go to see the premmie bub today - we will do that tomorrow now and stay for dinner. We did however visit some other friends who also had a bub 2 weeks ago. I can't say it made me clucky but he was asleep in the bassinet the whole time we were there. The premmie bub is far more likely to make me clucky as he belongs to some really close friends who are more like family to us than friends. In case you didn't work it out there has been a baby explosion around here lately - 4 babies in the past 4 weeks for us to visit!

I think Paddy and Will must have the same table manners. I tried the bowl with his cereal this morning and he was better but he can't actually get the food on the spoon. Once it is on he can get it to his mouth ok but not dip the spoon in himself. How did you show your kids what to do?

Well - I alaready said my Congrats to Anna - but isn't it great about The Boy! I hope she has a great time in QLD - what a holiday for her!

I had better go - Troy is lying on Will's fold out couch in the lounge room (asleep) and I think the litle man has gone and jumped on him! :laughing:

MrsMiggins

26-01-2007, 21:19

lol Tan! I bet I can compete with you in the white leg stakes - I have very Scottish skin! :yes: My arms will tan up slightly if I spend a lot of time out in the sun during summer (although give them a week out of the sun & they're back to their former white glory!), but no matter how much sun my legs get, they are just whiter than white. (Or as Billy Connolly would say they're not so much white as pale blue!) Add to that my cellulite, broken veins... oooh - I just have the world's most unattractive legs!!! I have always hated them, but they just seem to get worse as the years roll by! :laughing: You guys must all have a really flattering picture of me in your heads by now!! I do like the boardies for swimming, but the trouble is, I can never actually find any that fit me. Even when I find them in my size, they always seem too tight. My compromise was a boardie skirt. Same thing as your regular boardies, only a skirt. Not as good for swimming in the pool, but great for swanning about on the beach!

OK - enough about my ugly legs! :laughing:

I can't believe Claire is in bed sound asleep!! Must be those short day sleeps wearing her out! Plus, we actually were able to have dinner at a reasonable hour tonight, which helps tremendously!

It has been so incredibly hot here of late! Poor Anna is just going to melt! It's been around the 36+ mark, and add to that the incredible humidity and it is just sweltering. Normally I am very much a summer gal, but I'm not coping very well with it right now. I said to Dave tonight that if I were due in the first week of August, we'd probably have the hottest July on record! It just seems that no matter when I'm due, we get ridiculously hot, humid weather. It was incredibly hot in the few weeks before I had Claire too. We don't normally get massive heat waves up here on the Coast. It generally doesn't get much over the high 20's, even in summer. We'll get a few stinking hot days here & there, but it rarely stays so hot for weeks on end. Can you believe I've already had 3 showers today?!!

[Right! Enough waffling, Fiona!]

Ange, how're the pups going?! They are just so beautiful!!! I love puppies!!!

Hayley, speaking of puppies - how naughty of Roxie to chew your mop up!! And such a shame seeing she'd been so good! I hope it was just a one-off!

Tan, that sure has been a little baby explosion!! Better not drink the water if you're not wanting another one just now!! lol! Premmie babies are incredible. I remember seeing my friend's twins when they were a couple of weeks old. They were born at 26 weeks and I just couldn't believe how tiny they were. They are now happy, robust 5 year olds (well, they'll be five in a couple of weeks). You'd never know how fragile they were when they were first born.

Lou, yet another great Maddi pic in your avatar!! I swear, that kid is just so photogenic!! She is gorgeous!! We went to the library on Wednesday and afterwards we went for coffee. Claire was playing with two little girls who are a few months older than her and they both had their hair in cute little pigtails. I was so jealous!! Claire's got heaps of hair now compared to what she used to have (ie: none!) but it's still a long way off pigtails! There is however, another little girl who goes to the library and she is one (today actually!) and she has even less hair than Claire!

For those of you who's children actually do have hair, can you tell me - do you use a kids shampoo? I just wash Claire's hair (well, her head!) with the same wash I use for the rest of her - the Johnson's bedtime bath. Her hair is always really soft & shiny, but I was wondering if I should still use it as her gets longer & thicker, or if I need to get a proper shampoo.

Well, I've got a million other things to do while I'm online, so I'd better get started. I haven't had a chance to get on much in the past few days.

Hope you all had a great Aussie Day!

bingo

27-01-2007, 09:24

Hope everyone had a great Aussie day. We headed up to Echuca and met up with some friends and their speedboat. The weather was magic. They had set up a shade tent on the beach so Maddi had her first "beach"day at the river. She had a ball playing in her giant sandpit. Although she didn't think much of the water.
Maddi at the river (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/lucinda3550/260107a.jpg)
Fi, as for washing Maddi's hair I do use Gaia baby shampoo and I also use conditioner as her hair is unruly and gets so knotty. I remember when we were kids that Mum used to wash our hair with J&J Shampoo. I still love the smell of it, but 'coz Maddi has eczma she can't use any J&J stuff.
Oh I hope Anna copes with the heat when she gets there Fi. I can't stand the heat at the best of times let alone when your carrying around an extra incubator.
As for our trip to Torquay, we're staying with another couple and their kids in a holiday apartment. I have no idea where, or even what it is called as they have organised it all. I'll let you know if its any good when we get back. I've got to look into buying a shade shelter for the beach so Maddi can play under it. Any ideas where you can buy one of those things for cheap?

cath

27-01-2007, 10:45

Hey Lou I was just looking at those shelter things on ebay a few weeks ago -the one I was looking at was really big and looked great and was about $35 and it said the retail price was $80 or something (you could "buy it now"). Good investment I would say - you will use it for lots of years to come. Just found the link:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=190068130788&rd=1&rd=1

Cute photo of Maddi.

Fi I use shampoo on Paddy's hair now that has thickened up (have for the last 3 months or so). I didn't use to bother and just used the soapy water but now he wipes pasta etc. in it and it needs a wash somedays. He is almost ready for haircut number 2. Dean wants to get out the clippers and do it ourselves (not number 1 -the longest length I am hoping -not enrolling him in the army yet). I am still not sure about it - we could stuff it up -I guess it would grow back - we'll see.

Okay better get back to cleaning this house before the lunch visitors arrive. I had to force myself to sit down for 15 minutes because I have been standing up since I got up this morning and I know my back will end up giving me hell if I don't sit down now and then. My ligaments are already getting looser or whatever they do in pregnancy - I am getting a sore lower back and bum (feels like all the bones of my pelvis are sore) by the end of the day these days.

Anyway hope everyone is well.

Cath

hayleylea

27-01-2007, 11:00

Hi guys, I have managed to have a quick skim through the posts. Aussie day was great. We had the bbq here and then my sisters next door neighbour invited us all over there so we ended up there. Today im suffereing a big hangover (note to self - DO NOT let your BIL make drinks again!) I had a few beers and decided to have a glass (or 2 or 3) of Wild Turkey (courtesy of BIL) - im not a bourbon drinker at all which certainly showed by the end of the night! I turned into a Wild Turkey! :o :laughing: We stayed at my sisters house and I spent the wee hours of the morning with my head in a bucket only to tell myself not to ever drink again :rolleyes: Cooper slept well and has been giving me the biggest cuddles ever today its been so sweet. Im soon to put him down for a sleep and ill be heading to bed too. Trent has gone to start putting up our new roof at our house so its just Cooper and I. Hangovers arent fun when you have a 15 month old i can tell you that!! I wont be doing it again in a hurry thats for sure! :shame:

Hope you have a great weekend.

MrsMiggins

27-01-2007, 12:00

That's it. Claire knows when I'm in this thread - I'm sure of it now!!! She has been asleep for prescisely 40 mins!! As soon as I clicked "Post", I heard her!!

So just quickly now....

Thanks for the info about the shampoo guys. I know I'm a while off worrying about it yet, but I had been wondering!

Hayles, you & your hangovers!!! :laughing: I'm glad you had a nice Aust day, even if the night/next morning wasn't so great!

Lou, I love that pic of Maddi on the beach - is that you with her? (if it is, you've got nothing to worry about in the "fat thigh" stakes! :D) Again - Maddi is such a cutie!!! I just want to squeeze those little cheeks!!! I think you can buy those beach tent things from Kmart. We have one we bought years ago when we used to take DSD up to Bulli Beach on the weekends (when we lived in Sydney, obviously!) and I can't remember it being all that expensive. It was certainly under $100. I'm thinking around the $40 mark.

Cath, I found this time too that my back gets really sore really easily - much more so than last time. Make sure you take it easy. Oh, and Nurofen now make these heat pack things which you stick on. They're about $12 for a pack of two from the chemist. They look quite good & I keep meaning to get some (haven't yet though). They are safe to use during PG.

Hmmm.... maybe she heard me & has gone back to sleep!!! :fingerscrossed: Oh god, I hope so!!! Poor thing's been a bit cranky this morning - I'm sure it's those teeth, but there's still no sign of them actually coming through. She's had a runny nose ever since she was sick, and it's getting no better - although it is always clear. Plus, she constantly is chewing on her hands. We'll just have to wait & see I suppose.

It's our 6th Anniversary today. I'm quite certain that Dave has forgotten all about it, although he'll usually remember half way through the day! He left for work at about 5 this morning, so I haven't seen him since I woke him up at 4.30 then went back to sleep!

I doubt we'll be doing anything special tonight, so I bought some profiterole cases and I've filled them with custard & will dip them in chocolate later this arvo. At our wedding, rather than having a wedding cake, we just had a massive croquembouche (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/fiona_t/General%20Photos/croqembouche.jpg), so I thought having the profiteroles for dessert tonight would be nice.

Anyway, hope you're all enjoying your long weekends! Chat soon!

hayleylea

27-01-2007, 12:20

Fi, I hate hangovers - you really think i would learn dont you? :laughing: I actually dont drink all that much but when I do I always go overboard! :rolleyes: Last night was a shocker - i was such a goose! lol. Im feeling very sore and sorry for myself today.

I have been upset all morning because I thought I lost my camera!! (my pride an joy!!!) I thought I must have left it in the taxi because i couldnt find it here or my sisters house!! I rang the taxi and they said it wasnt handed in so i got myself into a frenzy and cried and was feeling sorry for myself when my sister called to say she found it!!! :smiliedance: Her kids must have put it in her undie draw!!! :laughing: cause thats where she found it. Little buggers!!

Happy aniversary Fi...hope you have a great night even if dave doesnt remember lol

Sorry i havent done many personals today - will get back into the swing of things when i get rid of this hangover HAHA. Lou - Maddis photo is so cute! she is such a sweety!

bingo

27-01-2007, 16:13

thanks for the ebay link Cath. I'll have a look and perhaps order one. I see the pick up is from Clayton and we are actually going to Clayton on the 8th for Maddi's ENT appointment so maybe we could pick it up then. It looks like a good one, nice and big and light.
Yeah Fi thats me with Maddi in the photo. I'm a tad self concious about my weight at the mo' as I was a nice 50kg a few years ago and over the years I've crept up the 62kg mark. I think its got a lot to do with portion sizes and not much activity!!! My DH is 6 foot tall and plays a lot of hockey and eats like a horse. I used to eat small but find these days I'm eating heaps just to ensure I get my fair share :o .
Hayley, your hangover sounds painful. Thank goodness you found your camera. I can imagine how upset you would have been. I'll be thinking of your sore head. Hope it goes away sooner.
Fi, that cake looks soooo yummy. Was that your actual wedding cake or a photo of one similar.

Katcha

27-01-2007, 16:27

Hope everyone had a great Australia Day yesterday. :)

MrsMiggins, I've recently started shampooing Katelyn's hair. I do it most nights now because she puts fuud in her hair. I use the Johnsons baby bed time bath in the bath for her, & I use the johnsons top to toe bath on her hair. It's the same bottle from when she was 1st born, I just never used it after I got the bedtime bath, so now I'm just using it up on her hair and then I'll probably get one of the other Johnson's shanpoos that's got a conditioner in it as well.

Hayley, I remember what those hangovers are like! I had a bit of one just a few weekends ago. It was after I drank heaps on a Christmas lunch cruise with my old workmates. (Yes, a very late Xmas lunch in January!) Luckily I had the hubby to look after Katelyn that night, then I had to go to work the next day with a queasy tummy. :barf:

hayleylea

27-01-2007, 16:44

Fi, i forgot to reply to your shampoo question. :yes: we use baby shampoo/conditioner. The bottles lasted for ages cause you dont have to use much.

Im sitting here waiting for Trent to come back with a nice greasy pizza! :laughing: Im still feeling pretty ordinary but nothing a good sleep cant fix. I cant wait till Cooper goes to bed tonight so I can go! He slept for 3 hours today so that was great. I would have had a sleep but at that stage i was stressing and pulling my house apart looking for my camera!

Anyway i best be off and get ready to dig into this pizza lol.

Goodnight guys :sleeping:

jobaby73

27-01-2007, 19:30

:wave:
I've finally mad it back. Hopfully thins time I wont disappear again. Well lets hope not hey. Hope you dont mind my coming back in here.?.
I have so much to catch up on and so much to tell you all. Although Hayley has been hearing from me via MSN... well when I get my **** on there that is. I have been a bit busy and tired so I can never seem to find the time.. But I have been thinking bout you all.
Our little ones have grown so fast.. How can I stop Tahlia from growing up too quick? Someone please let me know.
Well I will give you all a quick run down on what has been happening with Tahlia.... (for those i am yet to chat to this is what she is like)
She is running round everywhere, forget the walking that jsut wasnt quick enough for little miss T... She is a ball freak and can not get enough of them so I brought 100 of the ball pit balls and have put them in her blow up pool and tent thingy. All I hear all day is "ball, ball, ball", but I just love it. She also loves and i mean LOVES to bounce, on anything and everything. From the couch to the beds to jsut about everything that you can jump on. Must remember to get her a tramopline sooner rather than later.LOL Tahlia also has so much energy. Like bucket loads, maybe she is just eager to learn new things, one would hope. We love swimming in the big pools and kiddie pools which is great cause I was worried she would be scared of water.
Tahlia is also into babies which is good as she will be a big sister in june. Everytime we see a little baby she waves and blows them kisses and wants to cuddle. Which is a good thing but hard to explain that she cant cause we dont always know these babies. LOL
Well this is meant to be a short a sweet hello again and I hope i am welcome back.
A hgue hello to you all and I can't wait to catch up on heaps on new things. :fingerscrossed:

hayleylea

28-01-2007, 07:59

Hey Jo! glad to see you around here again :smiliedance: And of course we dont mind having you back. The more the merrier!

I feel much better today after a good sleep last night. Cooper was such a good boy too and let me sleep in till 8.30...so no drinking for me for a little while!! lol

It was cold here last night!! I was freezing, it was nice to be able to snuggle up in the blankets! its quite cold this morning too. Cooper and I have both woken up with snotty noses but I think that its just the cold morning air :fingerscrossed:

Not up to a great deal today. Going to head down the street while Daddy and Cooper have some time together and look at the winter clothes out and about and put some on layby for the little guy. My sister gave me a whole heap but they will all be too big so that sucks! I figure if i just layby some stuff and just buy a bit here and there its not such a big expense come winter time and i dont have any clothes. I am not buying too much though because alot of his summer stuff wasnt even worn, I have so many clothes of his packed away still with the Tag!

Hopefully Anna is enjoying the hot weather in QLD...

Everyone with the teething little ones I hope that they arent giving them too much trouble!

Talk soon, have a nice sunday!

bingo

28-01-2007, 08:27

Hi Jobaby, great to hear from you after so long. Tahlia looks so cute in her avatar. How is the pregnancy coming along? Are you feeling well ect.?
Maddi's top molars are taking forever to come through. Last night she was up screaming even with the neurofen. And if it wasn't enough that Maddi kept me awake DH woke up around 3am screaming "snake" jumping out of bed and shaking the blankets. It scared the bejesus out of me. This morning I asked him about it and all he said was it wa just a dream. certainly seemed real at the time. I don't know how but Maddi didn't even wake.
LOL Maddi is twirling around and around in front of the mirror and singing. Its very funny.
Hayley I went to big W yesterday and bought MAddi some size 2 wondersuits ready for winter. And I ended up using one last night. She is so cuddly in those suits. Have fun shopping toay. We might go to the market for a walk around today. DH has hockey all day so its just me and Maddi.
Fi I see you've been nominated for most helpful mod. Good luck - I hope you win, you've got my vote thats for sure. :fingerscrossed:
Better go and move Maddi to a more open space to twirl before she knocks herself out.

hayleylea

28-01-2007, 09:24

lol at your DH waking up screaming snake!! Must have been a pretty real dream..it would have scared the **** out of me if Trent woke up doing that! lol.

Fi ill have to check out the nominations and vote for you for sure!

i havent got far today still just got out my pjs! lol Im running in slow motion! Talk soon guys

Wivi

28-01-2007, 11:25

LOL Bingo. I think your Dh and mine might be related. We have had some very funny stories over the past 8 years because DH is a sleep talker and he has very vivid dreams. He almost booted me out of bed one night when he had a snake dream - and I mean literally! He kneed me up the bum! He has also got up in the night, turned the light on and looked under the covers before. When I asked him what he was doing he told me that he was checking for ants! I could tell you hundreds of stories like that.

Will does twirls lately too - it's very cute. Oh I forgot to mention that he talks in his sleep too. Ther other night Troy went in to fix his sheet and I heard Will yelling in a very cross sounding way! I asked Troy is he was awake and he said "no - eyes firmly closed - yelling!" only for about 10 seconds, then silence. And not crying yelling, it was really like he was telling someone off! I think we are going to have a very noisy nigh time household. I get all my talking done in the day - make sure of it!!:ecomcity:

Glad to hear you have recovered Hayley. I wonder what Cooper would have thought about you throwing up?

Hi jobaby - I have a ball freak too! I know all about it.

Geez you girls are organised. I can't believe you are shopping for winter stuff already. I have boxes and boxes of winter clothes for Will that two different friends gave me that their boys have grown out of. They were winter bubs - so there was no size 1 summer stuff - but heaps of winter! I am hoping Will doesn't grow to be a size 2 before then. If he does I will be very annoyed. There's a lot of cool stuff in there and it takes heaps of room to store it all.

Oh and the teething business is continuing. Friday night Will cried for 2 hours in the night - I felt so sorry for him but he slept through just fine last night. I glimpsed in his mouth yesterday and it seems that he is getting those top molars and the missing bottom teeth at the same time. Any wonder he was crying in the night. Poor little man. :fingerscrossed: it'll all be over soon.

The shampoo question. Still using the J&J baby stuff but mainly because I want to finish the bottles. Even with his thick hair it seems to be ok with Will.

LOL at your camera being in your sister's undie drawer Hayles. I hope one of her kids wasn't playing swapsies! One of my nephews used to take things out of drawers and replace them with one of his toys. My brother went to get some clean undies one morning before work and found no undies in the drawer but quite a few trains!

ok I have to go - gotta do some work while Troy is at home. Chat later.

hayleylea

28-01-2007, 12:24

Cath, just got back from down the street and found them beach sunshade things you were after at Homeart for $15!!!!! Bargain! they were $40 reduced down to $15 so if you have a homeart near me try there. ..

Gotta go Mr will be awake soon and i have to clean up.

Talk soon

MrsMiggins

28-01-2007, 12:38

You're not working on a Sunday Tan, are you?! Ah well, as they say - no rest for the wicked, huh?! :devil6:

Jo! Welcome back to the fold! And Congrats on your latest little one!!! Oh! to be 8 months PG in May, rather than in this bloody awful heat!!! lol I can't really complain that much. I thought my PG with Claire was a breeze - this one is even easier!! I'm loving it! Tahlia sure sounds like she's full of beans! It's funny, Claire is much more into big kids than babies (I have to try and keep her away from all the boisterous 12 yr old boys when we go to the park!) but I think she'll be OK once The Boy is here (:eek: not long to go!!) I think she will be fascinated with him and I'm really looking forward to the time he starts to get mobile & they'll be able to entertain each other. Give poor mum a much needed break!! Claire is very full-on. While I think she's a bit young at this stage to be jealous of the new addition, I am a bit worried that she won't understand why she can't be picked up whenever she wants etc once he arrives. She does tend to fly off the handle "a bit" (:rolleyes:) if she doesn't get what she wants immediately! Anyhooooo... it's great to have you back! Looking forward to catching up some more.

BTW guys, Anna is definitely not loving the heat & humidity up here!! :laughing: We've sent a few text messages and she's struggling a bit (can't say I didn't warn her!! lol) We'll be catching up on Tuesday - I'll make sure i get some piccies! Have any other of us Oct mums met up yet, or are Anna & I the first? Lou, did you meet Anna once??

Hayles, I don't believe you for a moment! lol I give you two weeks til you're up for a big girl's night out!! You're just trying to make me jealous, I'm sure! We actually bought tickets in a raffle the SLSC here was having and the prize was a registered trailer full of grog. The guy who sold me the tickets said that if we needed some help drinking it all, then he could gather up some of the boys from the SLSC to give us a hand. I told him in no uncertain terms that come March, they'd be lucky to get a look-in! I'd be into it!! lol

Lou, that is so funny about your DH & the dream!! Tan, it was you who was telling us before about your DH's active dreams, wasn't it? Dave has given me a black eye once when he was having an active dream! He just rolled over and struck his fist out really suddenly and unfortunately it connected with my eye & I got up the next morning with a shiner!! He was so apologetic!!!

That cake wasn't actually our wedding cake (although I'm sure I have a pic of it somewhere), but it did look fairly similar to the one in the picture. The day we were married was 42 degrees and very, very humid (in fact, it poured rain just after our - outdoor - ceremony and we all had to bolt indoors!). The guy who did the catering had his wife do the croquembouche for us included in the price of the catering, which was lovely of her because everywhere was wanting to charge us like $3 a puff (and with 2 puffs per person x 100 people, there was NO WAY I was paying for that!!) She'd made all the profiteroles, and filled them with Cointreau custard (YUM!!) then had the spun sugar all over the outside as well as some beautiful blue flowers scattered here & there around the tower. But because it was so hot, the tower started to collapse and so she took it all apart, coated each profiterole in chocolate, put it all back together and then put the flowers back on. It was amazing and tasted fantastic!!!

Would you believe that my dear husband did in fact forget our anniversary yesterday? I told you he would!! He has forgotten every year bar none. But as I said, he normally remembers at some point during the day & gets me some soppy card & some wilted flowers from a servo somewhere. Not yesterday! He plum forgot until I gave him my card. I was more than just a little pi$$y at him, because even after I gave him my card, he thought it was funny he'd forgotten yet again, and then proceeded just to do what he normally does when he gets home of a Saturday afternoon - lays around in just a pair of shorts, flicking through boring sports shows on the TV. So I took Claire out and when I got home, found that he'd actually gone off to play golf!!! Grrrrrrr!!!!! And then to make matters worse, got home late and then after dinner and the nice dessert I'd made, announced he was tired and was off to bed. Yep. Great anniversary. Very romantic! Idiot!

Oooh! Now I've just made myself cranky all over again!! I'd better finish up I think! I've put in another gargantuan post for you all to gloss over anyway!!! lol Have a good one ladies!!!

hayleylea

28-01-2007, 13:27

:shame: Yes im waving my finger of shame at Dave!! and giving you a big :hugs: . I think Dave needs a few tips on how to be romantic lol.

If you win that trailer of grog Fi, I might just have to forget about my bad hangover yesterday and come and help you drink it! :laughing:

Im off for a drive out to our house to do a few little things...

:wave:

MrsMiggins

28-01-2007, 13:40

~sigh!~ He used to be romantic, Hayles - back in the old days! One day I was having a very bad day at work (when I worked in retail as a store manager) and I came back from lunch to find a massive flower arrangement sitting on the counter with a card attached saying "Well, I can't help with the stuff that's getting you down, but maybe these will cheer you up" Awwwwwww!!!! OMG, he would never even think of doing anything like that now!!!! I guess that's what 6 years of marriage & 40 years of life does to you....

bingo

28-01-2007, 14:00

Oh Fi! Dave is certainly in a lot of trouble and I'd be as mad as you right now. Hmmmm, wonder if he even realises he's in so much trouble? If he's like my DH he'll just bury his head until he thinks its safe to come out.
No Anna and I haven't met yet. Would loved to have though. I think that Anna was in Melbourne and we toyed with the idea but I think from memory that I was in Gippsland visiting my parents? One of these days!!!!!!Funny thing is my Dad is going to Hobart on the 4th and I'm thinking of heading down with him but it depends if we can fit it in with all our specialist appointments and what not.
Tan and Fi I had to laugh at your DH and DS dream activities. A black eye sounds pretty rough going. DH doesn't break out in active dream stuff often but when it happens - Geez, he takes the whole bed with him. I remember when we first started seeing each other he told me that he'd fallen asleep on his arm and it went all numb. Half asleep he woke up and thought some animal was on top of him so he wrestle it to the ground only to find he was wresteling his own arm. He told me that story just in case he decided to wrestle me in the middle of the night. It hasn't happened yet, but we've had all sorts of wakings. One night he had me strip the whole be in search of a mysterious spider. And in the morning he didn't even remember doing it. These men are high maintenance even in their sleep.
Hayley, I'm going to have to see if I can find an Homeart here. I've also started looking for a lifejacket for Maddi so when we go to my parents she can come out on the boat.

hayleylea

28-01-2007, 17:39

Oh Fi, atleast you know he was romantic once..who knows one day he might just surpise you again.

We have had a great day. We went out to our house and while Trent worked inside I took Cooper outside and I cleaned his cubby up a bit (well clean enough for him to play - he hasnt played in it yet) Well he loved it!! He had a ball and didnt want to get out it was so cute! He sat and he played with all the pots and pans and pretended to pour himself drinks with the teapot (into a champaigne glass i might add! :rolleyes: :laughing: ) There are a couple of pics on my website of him pouring his drinks etc.

So my mission is to now do his cubby up while Trent does the house up so he can play in it all the time. Its still a bit grubby. We need to pain the inside and when we redo the outside of our house the weatherboard of the house we are going to use to clad his cubby. But for $5 (the price we brought the cubby for and it came with all the pots and pand and shelves and everything you can think of) we couldnt go wrong. And it now has the approval of its owner so thats just great.

Here are some rough pics of his $5 cubby (like i said it definatley needs some work but for $5 what can you expect lol)
cubby front view (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e53/hayleylea/cubby.jpg)
cubby side view (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e53/hayleylea/cubby1.jpg)
cubby sink etc (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e53/hayleylea/cubby2.jpg)
Cooper in his cubby lol (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e53/hayleylea/web3.jpg)

Not bad for $5 though. Cant wait to do it up for him...the kitchen etc though is cute and good, with a bit of a scrub/paint the table and chairs will come up good too.

Anyway nearly time for this little boy to say night night so i better go.

Lou if you cant find a homeart there and you cant find one of them shades cheaper then that i can send you one. (not sure how much postage would be but could find out for you - im actually going to go buy one of the shade things tommorrow. Its perfect to go over Coopers sand pit and his little paddle pool too!

bingo

28-01-2007, 19:35

OMG Hayley, that cubby is awesome. The last photo is fantastic. I'm guessing that look of "This is the best" pretty much well summed it up for Cooper. Thats not a cubby by the way = thats a HOUSE!!! I can imagine Cooper in his teens with his mates playing card games out there.
Thanks for the offer of the shade thing. I looked up Homeart on the internet and Yay we do have one. I'll ring up tommorow and see if they have any so I can place one on hold. If I can't get one I'll definitely catch up with you.
I was thinking about when Anna and Fi meet. Are you guys going to run towards each other and hug like out of the movies :laughing: . Its so funny that we are all really good friends yet we've never met. I can't wait to meet someone from here. Everyone is soooo great.
Well I'm going to have a looky at Coopers website, then its into the chocky pudding for me. And then.........I think I might just have myself a kahlua, vodka and milk before bed. Errrrrrr its work day tommorow until Wednesday :no: "I dont want to go to school!!!!!!!!!!!!"

hayleylea

29-01-2007, 10:29

Bingo, yeah its is a pretty good cubby huh! I had a laugh about Cooper playing with his friends in there when he is older. I can too imagine him doing this! lol. he loves it thats for sure.

Cooper didnt wake up till 9am this morning! little sleepy head. We have just got back from down the street. I found this tool pack for $5 and its so good! Theres heaps play tools in there, I got it because when we go help trent on the house he always wants to play with Trents tools (which can get a bit dangerous lol) So i got him his own set which is absolutley amazed at right now as he is playing. He is such a little boy. He got his hammer and went and started hammering the wooden table and then gets his screw driver and tries to unscrew screws its so funny and very cute at the same time.

I also got some bargains for my new bathroom (when its finally done) so that was pretty exciting. Oh and I also got Cooper a pair of cheap pjs ($8). It has been rather cool here of a night and he never keeps his blankets on so i got him a pair of long pant/short sleeve pjs. That should keep him a bit warmer. At the moment at Big W they have them winter bonds sleep suits on sale for $10 which is like $5 cheaper then normal if anyone is interested! I didnt get Cooper one because they only had bright pink in his size but they are cheap and the bonds ones are good ones!

Cooper has become a real snuggle bum latley! He gives me the most beautiful cuddles of a morning and just for no reason throughout the day! i just love it. His poor old teddy is filthy again because he drags him around from each one of his toys all day so i think ill be giving him a good scrub in the coming days. Ted also gets the best biggest cuddles every lol.

Anyway I hope everyone is well, Lou you would probably be at work right now - i hope it goes quick for you!

Better go get this little one some lunch mind you i dont think he will be too hungry. He ate 2 bowls of fruit loops for breakkie and a cheese and bacon bread while we were down the street lol.

:wave:

Anyway better go see if this little

Wivi

29-01-2007, 11:10

We have a smelly teddy here again too Hayley. I need to wash it again!

I love those pics of Cooper in the cubby. It looks so amazing. I can just imagine how cool it will look after some paint and a bit more of a scrub. Not that Cooper minded anyway. I agree with Lou - it will be a great teenager's retreat one day! I can just imagine you sneaking in there to check what Cooper is hiding in the cupboards when he is older.

Well we have had a great morning playing in the backyard. Actually, Will played and I read a book! Gotta love that. It was a really nice temperature here this morning and our backyard has lots of morning shade so out we went. I think Will was just happy to be outside again. It has been so hot lately that he has been inside a lot and that can be a bit boring.

Hayles - you are such a bargain finder. I think I should employ you to go shopping for me. I think even if I paid you $15 an hour I would still save money compared to me shopping. I hate shopping so I only get what I need when I go and don't really look at specials and think ahead. On the other hand I don't really impulse buy so it probably all works out.

Will's still not much of a cuddler but he gives great kisses at the moment. And he likes to lie down next to us on the floor. He is a crazy kid.

I should go I guess - need to ring some people while Will is sleeping.

Chat later and I hope Lou's day isn't dragging too slowly!

hayleylea

29-01-2007, 11:20

Hi guys. I forgot to mention that I brought one of them sunshades from Homeart today. Here is a pic of Cooper playing under it today HERE! (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e53/hayleylea/sunshelter.jpg) Its not exactly the brightest or trendiest looking one ive seen but it does the job. And its huge! They also had a different sort there for the same price, but it didnt look like it would be as shady but you could probablyl check them out too if your interested. It was blue and yellow.

Anyway this boy needs to go beddy byes I think!

As for you Tan. No need to pay me to do your shopping. You tell me what your after and ill find it for you lol.

ETA: it also says that it is UV CUT which i am guessing it means it stops the suns harmful rays aswell as being a shade? Not sure??? But yeah just thought woould add that. Either way it was a bargain! Great for picnics/beach everything!

Check out Coopers website and the pics i just took of him and ted before bed and in bed! so cute! He loves his Ted! lol

Wivi

29-01-2007, 13:08

Hi again everyone!

We just had word that Troy's cousin had her bub last night and it is a boy called Callan Will. (oh - you're not dreaming, another cousin had a bub 3 weeks ago). I'm pretty chuffed because she obviously shares the same ideas about names as me! I love the name Callan and would have used it if we had another boy sometime. That's 5 bubs in one month for us and 4 of them have been boys. Its boy fever!

I've been big and brave and just washed teddy again. Will only slept for an hour and a half today so I took advanatge of it and washed him again. At least we know why he gets smelly now - Will sticks teddy's tail in his mouth when he finishes his bottle.

I should go - Will is reading the magazine out of the weekend Financial Review, man, he is going to be a nerd like his Dad.

hayleylea

29-01-2007, 13:29

LOL about Will being a nerd like his dad! You crack me up Tan. WOW babies everywhere in your family!! Cute name too! By the time your cousins have finished there wont be any names left for your next little bub if its a boy! lol Well done on washing Teddy again! Man i wish i could just throw Coopers in the washing machine!!! :banghead: I have spent the arvo contacting AVON and looking on the net to see if i can find a spare one - but no luck so far! Coopers still snoozin, thats 2 hours so far and he didnt get out of bed till 9 lol. Sleepy head!

MrsMiggins

29-01-2007, 14:33

Hayley, that house is very cool!! Cooper obviously loves it!! :D

Tan, congrats to Troy's cousin!!! There sure is a little baby boom going on around you guys right now - especially with the boys!!!

Lou, I was pmsl at the image of Anna & I running towards each other in slo-mo, arms out-stretched!!! :laughing: We are actually meeting tomorrow for lunch at a Westfield near Brissie, so we may have to push a few people out of the way to do so...! (...still chuckling at the thought!!!)

Claire is such a ratbag!! She woke up at 3.45 this morning (she hasn't woken in the night at all for a few weeks now) but luckily she went back to sleep pretty easily after I gave her a bottle. Only thing was, she then woke up at 8.15 (really late for her!) and has only just gone back down at 2pm!!!! Despite all my usual efforts, she just flatly refused to go to sleep this morning! Bit of a bugger really, because if she has a good 3 hr sleep now, that means she won't be awake until 5pm! Grrrr! And also, we haven't had a chance to get out & do anything because I spent all morning trying to get her to go to sleep! :rolleyes:

We had a really good day yesterday too! For once, while it was still hot, it wasn't that stifling, "put-your-head-in-your-hands-and-weep" kind of hot!! And last night we didn't even bother with the a/c in our room (still had Claire's on). Although it is much nicer with it on! Unfortunately today is even hotter than it was before! Aaaargh! I wouldn't mind so much if I didn't have an active, naughty toddler, 20-odd kgs extra weight and a baby in the making in my belly!! It really is just too hot.

But anyway, yesterday was nice. Claire had a good long sleep, and when she woke up, I'd made a picnic lunch for us, so I took her down to the esplanade at Golden Beach. We sat on a rug under a big tree and ate sandwiches & fruit, then we went for a swim at the beach and played in the sand. Claire just loves the beach!! Then I took her for a big long ride on her bike around the parks & beach. There is a huge long walking track and it is perfect for her little bike! After that, we had a go on the swings & slippery-dip in the park and Claire was having a ball playing with another little girl. She had a bit of a tanty though when it was time to leave. :( When we got home, Dave got home a few minutes later and so we all went down to the golf course and we rode around in the buggy while Dave played 9 holes. Claire just loves going in the golf cart!! It was beautiful because it was late in the day, there was a lovely breeze and it was actually fairly cool (comparitively!) We got home about 7.30 and had dinner (Dave had whipped up a big apricot chicken casserole that morning & it had been cooking all day). Claire was tuckered out - had a bath & went to bed. Nice!

OK, I need to go get an icypole I think!!! Talk soon!

Bree3

29-01-2007, 14:35

Hi Everyone,

Just thought i'd introduce myself, my name is Carly and i live in Darwin. I now have two beautiful daughters, my first Madsion is now 15mths old and little Kaylee who will be 4wks on thursday. At this point in time i'm trying to manage Maddy's tantrums, she is such a demanding little diva sometimes. I know the arrival of the new bub has been such a big thing for her but i have been trying really hard to keep things as normal as possible for her. I'm also starting to think that maybe its just her getting older and starting to test the waters with me a bit as she heads towards those terrible two's. Anyways just thought i'd say hi and was wondering if anyone else's little one is starting to chuck tantrums.

MrsMiggins

29-01-2007, 14:54

lol :laughing: Yup!! :yes: Just read back through any of my last 150 or so posts!!! :laughing: Claire is a champion tanty chucker lately. I have just 5 weeks til my due date and I am really worried about coping with a newborn and a huge tanty-chucker all at the same time. Although I have been reassured by many, many other mums that the stage from about 14-18 months is a nasty one, behaviour-wise, and you then get your little angel back for about 6 months before the terrible two's strike with a vengeance. I'm hoping this is true - at least I'll have some time to adjust to being a mum of two before Claire becomes a little monster again!

Anyway, welcome to our little mum's group! We all love it here, as I'm sure you will too! Don't be perturbed by the fact that we are a bunch of old gas-bags either! Some days you come in & there have been a hundred posts in a day!! lol

And congrats on your new little one!! How very exciting for you! I'll be looking forward to hearing how you're going - as you can see, I'm expecting my second very soon too! And there are a few Oct mummies now expecting - YAY!!

Wivi

29-01-2007, 14:54

Hi Carly,

Nice to meet you! We are big chatterboxes in here and love to hear from new people.

Wow - 2 already. I can't begin to imagine how busy you must be - never mind the tanties!

We have had a few chats in here recently about tanties, Will hasn't really had a full blown tanty yet - as I told the others if he is not happy with what I want him to do then he just sits down and then I push him along with my foot.:laughing: I think from memory it is mainly the girls doing the tanties right now and that seems right -girls mature earlier than boys! I might be wrong about the tanty thing though - we will have to see what the others say.

So - how are you coping with the 2? Do you have family around to help? Is DD1 a good sleeper so you only have to get up for DD2? I am so fascinated to hear how you are managing!

hayleylea

29-01-2007, 15:46

Hi Carly! Good to meet you, we talk alot here so hopefully you can catch up with us! Its good to have another one on board! I cant believe you have 2 already either - firstly congratulations and secondly a big :hugs: coping with a new born and a 15 month old chucking tantys! I think its just their age - Cooper is OK now but a couple of weeks ago he did go through a week or so of chucking tantrums when things didnt go his way. I suppose its also a learning curve for Maddison aswell suddenly having a new sister. Cant wait to hear more from you!

Fi, you guys sound like you had a great day yesterday.

We have had a good afternoon today - i decided to go out and mow the lawn and give the yard a general tidy up (our rotweiler chews her toys up after awhile so it takes me forever to find all bits and peices and put them in the bin :rolleyes: . So i got out my mower and sat Cooper in the shed in the shade with some toys and his toy mower. This is the first time ive ever mowed the lawn with him watching and he giggled his head off the whole time! it was so cute. And then he was pushing his mower round and round the shed...haha. While i was picking up all the little bits in the peices. Cooper was busy playing in his sand pit, and going up and down his slippery dip and then he decided to find a pile of dirt and go for gold. He ended up black with dirt everywhere, his blonde hair looked black! :laughing: So after we finished, we both came in and had a nice long shower (took me forever to get the dirt out of his hair). Now he is sitting on the lounge next to me cuddling his teddy. so cute. He probably thinks its bed time because he had a shower HAHA.

Anyway im waffling on and on latley - Poor old Anna is going to hate me when she gets back having to read through my posts! :laughing: Tell her we said Hi Fi! How exciting that you guys are actually meeting tommorrow!!

Katcha

29-01-2007, 17:40

Welcome Carly, nice to see someone from Darwin here. Went for a holiday a couple of years back during the dry season.....was bloody brilliant, loved the place & the weather!

Hayley, that cubby house is great! You didn't happen to pick it up somewhere in Adelaide did you? It just reminds me so much of the cubby house my friend had when we were growing up. I used to love it!

Katelyn's also started spinning around like a couple of the others on here. She twirls around in front of the TV & laughs her head off! Oh, the little devil's now managed to climb up onto the couches, so now I'm imagining more accidents will be happening with her toppling off the couch.....hasn't happened yet though....:fingerscrossed:

hayleylea

29-01-2007, 18:27

Katelyns mum - nope got the cubby from an auction here. I think it has always been in the bathurst Area...not sure though. Cooper has been climbing on the couch for ages now...he has fallen off once, got an egg on his head but nothing too bad. its not fun im forever trying to keep him off it.

jobaby73

29-01-2007, 18:59

Chat chat chatty, we are a chatty little bunch aren't we.. I'm never gong to keep up as I am finding it hard to find time but I as still arounf. welcome Carly, you must be run off your feet aswell. And yes yes yes Tahlia loves to throw tantrums. I ignore them as much as possible or laugh at her which i must say she hates. The faces she pulls when do this make me laugh even more. I read some where that at this age it is like living with a teenager, so we have heaps to look forward to as they are trying to she or fiind out about independance....
Hayley that is one great cubby house. and i have seen those shade thingys at homeart here I jsut never got one as i didn't know how big they would be. So yeah bingo you will be able to get one jsut got to lansel... LOL
Fi I can't believe you are so close, you must have such mixed feelings from excited to a bit scared and wondering just what it will all bring your way? I will be asking you so many questions as I am sure Carly will find out jsut to see how things work out for you guys with 2 on your hands...
I have to tell you something funny that Tahlia did today, we were driving in the car and the radio was on and i decieded to sinig, as i knew the songs for a change. well i must of gotten to loud for Tahlia or she jsut didin't like my singing as the nedt thing i hear from the back is, "mummy, NO more". well I stopped and laughed.
Well another short and sweet one. sorry to Katelyns mum, next time.
take care :wave:

Bree3

29-01-2007, 22:17

Hey guys,

Well thankyou all so much i feel so much better now. I started to feel like i was doing something wrong with Madison.

As you might have guessed Kaylee wasn't planned but at the same time was a wonderful suprise. I have been a bit busier with the two girls mainly because i have been trying to get a routine happening. The last 2 weeks have been a bit of a challenge as both girls have had a bit of a cold. Kaylee has been having trouble bringing up wind which is resulting in alot of crying. Things seem to be getting better though.

Madison does sleep through the night which is good and always has a good couple of hours during the day, so we do get a break here and there. We do have a bit of an issue when ever we go shopping. Madison has been stealing, a couple of times i've walked out of the shop and about 5mins later noticed thats she's been a bit too quiet (you know the sort of quiet i'm talking about) only to look down and see her eating a chocolate or playing with a small toy. I've caught her in the act a couple of times and as soon as she gets close to anything the arms go out and she just grabs anything she can.

I do have friends and family here in Darwin and did belong to mums group but one by one they all started to move interstate. So now i'm kinda on my lonesome as all my other friends don't have any kids yet. Well i look forward to getting to know you all and thankyou for making me feel welcome. :)

hayleylea

30-01-2007, 07:06

Maddy&Kaylees Mum....Thats great that Maddy is so good for you during the night and gives you a break during the day aswell. Poor little Kaylee and her wind. I hope you get that sorted out soon. I had to have a giggle at Maddy stealing though - i know its not really funny but what a sneaky little girl! Cooper often pulls clothes of racks but I hasnt stolen anything yet...Glad you feel welcome here :hugs:

This is just a short one from me because I think my little man just woke up.

Talk soon..

hayleylea

30-01-2007, 10:50

HAHA check this photo out Click! (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e53/hayleylea/web.jpg) This is Coopers serious look - "come any closer Mum and Ill throw it!" HAHA He is such a character.

Maddyand Kaylees Mum, Im a photo freak if you havent noticed already so dont mind me posting photos all the time on here and on my website :laughing: :yes: call me obsessed lol.

ETA: Lou and Cath they have them sunshelter things at Aldi aswell - $50 they look like good ones. A bit better then my $15 homeart one but hey for the price difference what do you expect lol. Im happy with mine. But just thought i would let you guys know!

Wivi

30-01-2007, 16:45

:mad: One very cranky Mummy here so if you don't want to read a complaint you might want to move on to the next post.

Today is one of the days that Troy is supposed to look after Will while I work. This afternoon I went out to get a JP to sign something and then drop the signed document off at the admin's place. On my way home I stopped briefly to get something for our dinner. When I got home it was 5:10 and I left at about 4. So I was gone around an hour. Now Will usually has dinner somewhere between 5 and 5:15 these days - mainly because he hasn't been eating very much for lunch. DH knows this. Anyway when I get home this afternoon there is no dinner ready, cooking or prepared for Will and one very cranky little boy. I tell DH that Will can have some tinned food given that there isn't anything prepared and he looks at me and says "Why - it doesn't take long to cook him something?" staring straight at me. I tell him that Will is cranky already and ask why he didn't prepare him something and DH says to me "I was wondering what was taking you so long"!!! Apparently wondering what I was doing renders DH incapable of doing anything else. Well - that did it, I point blank refused to get Will's dinner or feed it to him. Honestly - I know what DH has been doing, he has been watching the cricket and chatting on messenger. As Fi said about her beloved the other day - IDIOT!

hayleylea

30-01-2007, 17:14

:hugs: Tan. MEN!:banghead: They can be as you put it "Idiots" sometimes. Hope things are a bit better for you now, im guessing Will finally got some dinner, hopefully DH fed him and not you! God whats the world coming to if you cant even go out for an hour! lol.

Wivi

30-01-2007, 17:33

Yeah - Will finally got some dinner and I didn't feed it to him, I stuck to my guns. Mind you - he is still cranky and to be honest I am not much better. Apparently I am supposed to be superwoman and either do everything myself or give endless instructions. Only when I do that - DH spends the whole time telling me how he can look after Will! So I go out without leaving instructions and look what happens. Oh - I am so cranky right now.

Carly - I hope you can get Kaylee's wind sorted out, have you tried gripe water? It helped a lot with Will when he was little and it is natural as well.

I wonder how Anna and Fi got on with their meeting today?

cath

30-01-2007, 17:44

Hi everyone and welcome Carly.

Tan if it doesn't take long to make something why the hell hadn't he done it. I hate responses like that. Dean tries to get away with **** like that sometimes by saying "oh but you're so good at it" - that doesn't impress me at all -he could be just as good at it.

My dinner problem at the moment is that Paddy has turned into Mr Fussy and it is driving me nuts. I just prepared him a healthy meal of fish (which he used to like) with a nice couscous salad (this is what we are having later too so thought I would get it half done now) and he only ate maybe 5 mouthfuls. He found some cucumber (cut up small for him) in his mouth and was mucking around with it for ages then it comes sliding out of his mouth and is spat onto the floor. I kept trying to get him to eat and he refused so I finally caved and gave him some strawberries and yoghurt which he happily ate. He will always eat yoghurt which I guess is something but he can't live on yoghurt. He is definitely not getting enough meat/fish/vegies in his diet. My other problem is that he won't really eat finger food which also drives me mad (unless it is cake or something and he seems to manage that fine - ate half an apple scroll today). He refuses to feed himself a sandwich or anything - just flings it on the floor. We have an appt. with the MCHN next week and I am going to have a chat to her about it. He is old enough to eat a sandwich for goodness sake (80% of his lunches are still fruit and yoghurt which I have to feed him).Anyway that's my whinge of the moment.

Nice thing of the day is that Paddy has taken to getting himself onto the couch with some books and sitting there quietly reading them for ages - so cute.

Anyway better start the toy pick up. Chat soon.

Cath

hayleylea

30-01-2007, 19:01

Cath - i know what its always frustrating when they arent eating isnt it! i should know this boy goes on and off his food all the time, mind you latley he has been eating anything and heaps of it! Luckily for me though Cooper has no problems holding food...infact he only likes to feed himself, the only real meal i have to really help him with is breaky and thats if he has fruitloops with milk...he is fine eating them dry but now he has finally starting eating them with milk i have to help him with them...I usually have a hard time getting him to eat vegies but he has been good with them latley. When im desperate i get the cheesy vegies (from the frozen sectioni in coles) they have pasta in them too and he scoffs it down. The thing is when they are being fussy you just give them whatever they will take, so yoghurt is fine. I could think of worse things for him to eat all the time lol. Like Anna told me when i was worrying about Cooper not eating, and i also read it somewhere, they only have to eat enough to fill the palm of their hand and they wont starve...(which isnt very much at all).

Anyway im off to have a nice relaxing night with Trent...im off to my mums for a few days tommorrow while Trents on night shift.

TAlk soon:wave:

Wivi

31-01-2007, 07:29

Hey - Thanks Cath for backing me up! That made me feel heaps better. You know how sometimes when you get cranky you wonder if you're the one being silly? Nup - DH was just being lazy. Never mind though - he made Will dinner and fed him as well.

If it makes you feel any better Cath - Will throws sandwiches around the room lately too. He also eats a lot of fruit and yoghurt. He will eat veges and stuff but as finger food only and he will only eat it if he give him a little bit at a time on the high chair tray. If we give him too much on there then he starts throwing that too. He is also hopeless with utensils although I do keep trying with the spoon and my MIL had a bit of success with a fork one day. About the yoghurt thing - this sounds foul but a girl I know used to put yoghurt on her sons' veges because that was the only way he would eat anything -with yoghurt! He grew out of it and he is about 3 now and is just fine.

One of my close friends who has a boy 8 weeks younger than Will was complaining to me the other day that her boy refuses to eat meat in any shape or form. Or fish or chicken either. She has been so worried that he is having toddler formula because she is concerned about protein etc. I guess they are all different and they grow up anyway.

I love that bit about Paddy sitting on the lounge reading books. That is just adorable. Will loves his books too - although at the moment it is magazines. He loves turning the pages. He is hopeless with sitting on the lounge though -we are always putting him back on the floor because I refuse to let him climb all over it! He will learn eventually.

Oh - Troy topped off his bad day yesterday by waking me up last night to tell me that it stunk in Will's room like he had done a poo. It is worth mentioning that Will was fast asleep. He wanted to know what he should do. :mad: I suggested not waking me up would be a good start and if Will was asleep then leave him alone. Then he suggests that if Will wakes then I get to change the nappy because I didn't tell him to do it now! So I stomp off to Will's room and yes it was smelly in there but I wasn't convinced he had a poo and he was fast asleep. So I told Troy to leave him alone, stop waking me up about silly things and go to sleep. For goodness sake if Troy thinks he needs changing then deal with it!

Surprisingly I woke up happy this morning. So did Will - at 7:20. Had a dirty nappy when I went in but I don't know when he did it and he wasn't bothered about it at all. Sometimes I wonder who the child is around here!

Wow Jobaby - what a great vocab Tahila has! I'm sure Will is yabbering at us in some other language. he has plenty to say - but none of it is English!

Gotta go guys. I keep looking in here for a post from Fi about yesterday but no luck so far!

Wivi

31-01-2007, 10:58

hello?? Anyone out there???

hayleylea

31-01-2007, 11:43

Im here for a sec now Tan. Im at mums for a couple of days.

How annoying about Troy waking you up. I hate getting woken up - mainly because it takes me forever to get back to sleep. Good to hear both you and Will woke in a happy mood :)

I got up early to get all our stuff together to come to mums, i wanted it all ready so we could go when Cooper woke up (he eventually did at 8.30! SLEEPY HEAD!) We made at stop at my sisters house because it was my nephews first day of school today. He looked so cute in his uniform and so grown up. He was worried i was going to go see him cause i was running late. My sister said he was running outside everytime he saw a car. God love him. I took him a little keyring to go on his school bag which lights up. He thought it was so cool. He went really well, he couldnt wait to get there and gave my sister a kiss and just went off and played with the kids. My sister didnt even cry - she thought she would be Braiden told her if she did it would embarrass him. lol.

Cooper has been running around like a mad man since we got to mums. He has this fake laugh he does all the time now - its so cute!! And sooo funny!!

Fi how did you go with Anna?

Tan, just for the record i find Cooper uses his little fork much better then his spoon. You could try just putting food on the fork for him and then give him the fork to see if he will eat it. Once they realise they can do it themselves they find it fun...

Better get going talk soon!

cath

31-01-2007, 11:57

Hello there,
we just got back from the library -thought we would go to story time for the first time but it wasn't on. Paddy had fun anyway looking at books while he was contained in his pram then once he got out he was off talking to all the kids and creating chaos (he found the trolley with books to go back and was flinging them around cheeky boy -I was a bit distracted talking to a friend so had some picking up to do when I realised what he was up to). This friend has 4 kids aged 6,4.5,2.5 and 7 months and when she heard I was pregnant again said I should get her to mind Paddy now and then so I can have a rest - what the hell!! She has 4 little kids crazy woman - she is the one who needs a rest. She said to me that she has been talking to her partner about fostering some kids once the baby is a bit older -she is such a mother hen.

Tan that is interesting about the yoghurt on the vegies - maybe I will have to try that (gross as it sounds). How annoying being woken up for a discussion in the middle of the night. One of our dogs decided to drive us nuts in the middle of the night and kept barking to go out (they sleep in the kitchen with a baby gate to keep them in). I let them out once and then she still kept barking and then Dean let them out and she still kept barking (just softly thank goodness so didn't wake Paddy). I was awake for about an hour dealingwith the stupid dogs. I would get rid of the dogs in a heartbeat (sorry dog lovers - deep down I am still one but I am just over them). I would now much rather have no dogs until we have had all our kids and they are old enough to hang out together (our dogs just bowl Paddy over and are constantly in his face licking him -it is too much).

Anyway better go and do some dishes. With the baby bonus for baby 2 we will be getting a dishwasher -can't wait!! Chat soon.

Cath

MrsMiggins

31-01-2007, 12:55

It's OK Cath - I love my dogs to pieces but I very definitely have days where I think it'd be just so much easier without them!! ie: When Dave is away!

Your friend is incredible!!! She must cope very well if she has all those kids, is PG again, offering to look after Will for you and also wants to foster some kids!!! I love being a mum, but I don't think I could deal with all of that!

Tan, I feel for you DH-wise!! :hugs: I think if Dave had done either of those two things to me at the moment, I'd be currently looking for a place to hide the body!! :laughing: I flew off the handle at him last night because he was moving about too much in bed and it was keeping me awake! Honestly, he barely has to look at me the wrong way right now and it's WWIII! As I explained to him, I'm hot, tired, sore, cranky & hormonal - my advice to him was to go out of his way to do the right thing & to pretty much stay away from me!! (Although I did apologise for being the b!tch from hell! :o)

Well I did meet Anna, and I have to say, she is exactly the same IRL as she is in her posts!! :D I recognised her straight away and it was weird - it wasn't at all like meeting someone for the first time, it was just like meeting an old friend for lunch! We had a bit of a browse around the shops and had some lunch and gas-bagged the whole time - it was great! Claire was in fine form - switching constantly between being a right little charmer and a cranky-pants! She was a bit tired towards the end and didn't want to stay in her pram, so there was the odd little tanty, but she slept well in the car on the way home and also for a good couple of hours once we got home! All in all, she slept from 3-6, which I thought was quite good, until I couldn't get her to sleep last night! Finally managed it just before 11pm, only to be woken at 2. I didn't go in and she sort of grizzled on & off for a bit until I finally went in at 3.30. She had half a bottle, then decided she'd play (wide awake of course!) until just before 5. So yeah, I'm pretty tired today!

Dave was meant to be going to Sydney, but that's now fallen through because there has been some drama with a payment we made to his credit card and for some reason it hasn't gone through and no-one can tell us what's happening, so he can't pay for his flights or his hire car. SUCH a HUGE pain, because we really needed him to go today! Not only do we need to have the money for the job ASAP, but he can't go next week. So I've no idea what's going to end up happening there. It's stressing me out though - big drama!

Cath, that's such a shame the library thing wasn't on! We went to our's this morning & all the kids just love it. I also found out from one of the other mums there that our Monday Playgroup has started up again, so I'm really pleased about that. We'll start going again next Monday.

As for the fussy food thing Claire is funny with her food. She is definitely a "DIY" gal when it comes to feeding. She rarely lets us do it for her, although we still have to help her. There's no way we can just give her a plate or a bowl & let her go. We put a few pieces on her high chair tray and she stabs them with her fork and puts them in her mouth. She's getting quite good at it now. Better than with the spoon! I'm really glad though that she'll eat whatever we eat. It makes it so much easier. I don't bother making up her meal separately - too much effot for me! We just make her up a plate of whatever we're having & she eats with us. She's not much of a breakfast eater - she still has her bottle of milk, but I'm happy with that - at least I know she's getting enough milk every day. She'll eat cheese, but not yogurt or custard (weird child, I know!!) She's good with fruit, but it's tricky because one day she'll love a particular fruit & eat heaps of it, so I'll give it to her the next day & she won't have a bar of it! Veggies, she's great with. And meat, chicken & fish. We've also given her other seafood & she loves it all. Chicken, I'd have to say, would be her favourite meat. She does eat sandwiches, but then some days she's just not interested & I'll end up picking it all up off the floor & chucking it in the bin. If she's not interested, she'll just chuck it. Who was it that said if they put too much food on the tray, it gets chucked? Was that you, Tan? Claire is the same. We can only put a few pieces on at a time, otherwise it's like it's all too much for her and it all ends up on the floor!

Oh for crying out loud! Claire's just woken up! I'd better go. I think it must be her teeth. Horrible things!! Still no sign of them yet, but she's just been so grizzly and her sleeping has been off lately. Plus she has some other signs of teething. I'd say it was the heat, but her room is a/c.

Oh, quickly before I go - I got a couple of photos of Anna, Claire & myself together, but I'll have to wait until I next get my pics put onto disc before I can post them!

hayleylea

31-01-2007, 15:11

Cath Im a huge dog lover too but i totally understand when you say there are days when you just wish you could rid of them. I have days (more often then not) with our naughty rotty! They are good with Cooper though which is probably one of the reasons why the rotty is still with us! The cockerspaniel is no trouble at all, he was my baby before Cooper come along and i wouldnt trade him for the world but i have been tempted to post an add in the local paper "free to good home" for our rotweiler! HAHA It definatley makes it harder raising kids when you have to also raise your dogs - the two combined ca be a handfull.

Fi thats great you and Anna had a great time! Not so good about Claire going to bed so late though - i dont now how you do it! More importantly I dont know how Claire survives on such little sleep! Cheeky little girl! I hope the thing with Dave gets sorted out ASAP! Cant wait to see the pics of you, Claire and Anna!

Oh picked up some more bargains today! A pair of joggers for Cooper for $4!!!! And they not only are they cute but they are the best fitting shoes i have brought for him ever - So happy about that. I also got another thing that im putting away for a rainy day or for when Cooper is helping us out at our house...a 3 peice tool set including a working drill - drill bit twists and makes noises, a chainsaw - that also works and makes noises and a jigsaw tool - that makes noises and the blade moves. All 3 for $8 thats for the set not each! BARGAIN he will think he is so special cause he loves daddys tools!

Anyway im off ill talk soon!

Katcha

31-01-2007, 21:21

Anyone else's playgroup starting back this week? Katelyn's starts again tomorrow morning, so that'll be a nice surprise for her getting to see all the other toddlers again. :)

Have any of you been away from your kids for at least 4 days?? Just asking because my work's sending me interstate for a conference at the end of April & I'm wondering how I'll go without Katelyn for all that time. I know I go to work everyday & don't see her for most of the day...but I've never been away from her at night before. I didn't HAVE to go to the conference, but they're yearly things & I've never been to one before, & it's in Adelaide, my home state, so I decided to go since it's all paid for....Now I'm wondering if I'll be able to handle being away from her.....

hayleylea

01-02-2007, 06:25

Katelyns Mum, our play group started again yesterday but I didnt go because I came down to Mums house. We will be going next week though. As for being away from Cooper, I have only ever spent a night away from him. Im sure Lou (bingo) has spent about a week or so away from her Maddi though. That trip sounds great though!

Im off to have some breakkie before the monster wakes up. Have a great day.

ETA - cute pic of Katelyn. She is gorgeous.

hayleylea

01-02-2007, 10:54

Hey guys, you know how Coopers Beloved teddy bear is from Avon and i have been searching for another one? Well I contacted Avon and they have regretably told me that they are no long available! So ted will just have to up with me sponging him clean lol I did actually find a dolls outfit today that i got, its blue and white and its a sleep suit and it fits him perfectly! it was only $3 so i put it on ted and Cooper thinks he is quite special in his new outfit! LOL It looks like it was made for Ted so that should keep him a bit cleaner - atleast i can wash the outfit when it gets dirty!

anyway looks pretty quiet in here. Better go get some lunch ready....

bingo

01-02-2007, 15:19

Oh Man its been busy on here. I've been popping in and trying to keep up but never time to reply. Work was a really long week with a new person starting in my section. So each night I was coming home and flopping on the couch exhausted from explaining everything whilst trying to do my own job.
Hayley thats such a great idea about the suit for Ted. Much easier to clean the suit than teddy, and hopefully ted will last longer.
Renee, :yes: to Hayley in that I went snowboarding for a week when Maddi was 10 months old and left Maddi here with my parents. It was really hard walking out the door for me, I cried like a baby. But once we got on the road I settled down and managed just fine. The first night it was really hard as I was always worried about Maddi. But Maddi had a ball and my parents really enjoyed having her and I had a great holiday. Ask me if I would do it again and I would say yes. It helpes heaps that Maddi was in her house and my parents came here to look after her. Familiar surroundings ect.
Doh, Maddi has just woken up so I'll have to come back.

MrsMiggins

01-02-2007, 21:21

Hi guys!

I don't know what's wrong with my poor little chicken! She's really not herself. I rang the dr to make an appointment today, but couldn't get in, and was also advised that the drs are headed down to a conference in Melb and so the surgery will be closed til Monday. :( I was going to take her to the after hours clinic at the hospital (we had to take her there the time she got rotavirus on the weekend after the surgery had closed and they were really good. All the files went back to my Dr and she called me to discuss it all), but they don't open til 6pm and Claire was way too tired & cranky by that stage.

We had to drive Dave to the airport this morning, and it was right on her usual nap time. I didn't think it'd be too much drama as she'd go to sleep in the car, but she woke up crying half way home and once she's awake, that's it - she's awake. So that was about 1/2 an hour's sleep, waking up just after 11 and she didn't go back to sleep all day.

Last night she had a bit of a drama getting to sleep - she screamed & screamed for ages and I ended up giving her some Nurofen. She eventually went to sleep & I only had to re-settle her at about 11.30pm, but she went back to sleep very easily and didn't stir again til morning.

The last few nights, she's been really unsettled, and her runny nose & cough seem to be getting worse - although I'm almost positive it's not a cold. I just don't know what it could be. The runny nose & cough seemed to get better for a few days, but the last 2 or 3 days it's gotten gradually worse. And I don't know whether it's the lack of sleep, or if she's not feeling well but she's been very, very cranky & grizzly. I just feel awful for her.

I don't really want to take her to a different Dr, but I might have to if she's still like this tomorrow. I just know they're going to say it's nothing & that there's nothing I can do about it though. I feel like I'm wasting my time, but I really think she needs to be checked out.

Anyway.

Hayles, what a great idea putting that suit on Ted!! That should get a few more years out of him! :yes:

Lou, sorry to hear you've had such a hectic week at work! I know what it's like when new people start, and I always dread it! It's exhausting, isn't it?!

OK. I think I'm going to go & make the most of Claire having an early night for once!! Take care all!!

Katcha

01-02-2007, 21:40

Thanks Hayley & Lou....I know it's going to be hard leaving Katelyn for a while, but I guess I'll get over it after a little while....I'll just make sure I keep myself really busy. I'm sure Katelyn will be fine without me. If it was the hubby going away for that long, I don't know....she's used to him being around all the time.

Hayley, I agree with Lou, that's a great idea to put the suit on Ted....keep him nice & clean longer. :)

MrsMiggins, I hope Claire's feeling better tomorrow. Poor little thing.

Wivi

02-02-2007, 05:51

Hi everyone,

I know it is early and no Will is not awake yet. I have been catching up on some paperwork this morning before we go to the farm later today.

Renee - I have been away from Will for 2 nights with hubby and my Mum and Dad looked after him at my place. He was fine and we had a ball. So don't stress, as long as she is with people she knows she will be fine.

Fi - sorry to hear that Claire is all out of sorts. I don't suppose she might have hayfever or an allergy to something? Don't you wish they could tell you what is going on?

Lou - my work week has been hectic too and I have been so tired. We had chinese one night for dinner and then left overs the next night because I was so not cooking anything. And Will just seems so full of energy!

My stress for the week is that I am probably going to book Will into childcare one morning per week. It's a really small place, just 10 kids and it is just around the corner at the Health Centre. I know he'll be ok but I felt really sad when I went to check it out!

Hm - I can hear him waking, better go.

Chat later,

:wave:

hayleylea

02-02-2007, 06:58

hi guys

Fi big hugs to Claire - I hope she gets better soon. Let us know how she gets on with the doctor etc. Poor little thing.

Renee is your hubby a stay at home dad? - The only reason i ask is because you said that it would be different if your hubby was going away because she sees him all the time... My cousin is a stay at home to his 2 kids - he loves it.

Tan, ive already had a chat to you on MSN about leaving Will in care for a couple of hours a week. He will be fine, and so will you after a couple of times. He will love playing with all the other kids :)

Anyway im off I will be heading back home at some stage this afternoon so ill talk soon!

nkenward

02-02-2007, 09:15

Hi everyone,

Its been awhile since my last post - I think its the first on the new thread. You guys have been busy.

This is only a quick post - I have been reading up a the last week.

Congrats Anna on your news of a little boy - that is fantastic!!! And the best part of him being the youngest - he will have 3 big sisters to look after him.

Ange - have no idea about the icypole thing - we give Connor bits of it - he much prefers ice-cream.

Fi - sorry to hear Claire is not herself. Connor hasn't been himself for the past week either. Always tired and not much of an appetite. So I am just going to keep an eye on him. He seems ok today though and he slept a lot better last night.

I have noticed that you all have updated your avatars - geez they are all growing up so fast. I was saying to our mothers group on Monday - even though its a fair way off - but they are turning 2 this year!!!

Well we went camping over the long weekend - and Connor had a ball. He loved not having restrictions by way of highchairs for eating, and running around and getting dirty. He also cut tooth no.14.

Besides that I have decided to start a beaded jewelery online site over the next month. I am getting bored at home and thought the extra money would come in handy.

Anyway must go, Connor has been driving me mad this week, and he has learnt how to turn the PC off! :mad:

But I have almost finished the website - I have uploaded most of it too. Let me know if there are issues.

Moorish

02-02-2007, 09:29

HI GIRLS!!!!!

I MISS YOU SO SO SO SO MUCH!!!

You guys have talked so much that I'm going to have to catch up on it all when I'm home.

I'm in Melbourne now staying at the Crowne Plaza (it ain't all that) and we've had a hitch with the car :eek: Apparently the guy we've been dealing with forgot to fax the finance paperwork so they're working overtime today to get things moving and we're just freaking out! We leave first thing tomorrow morning on the boat and at the moment we're driving around the yards old ford falcon! LMAO! All good, we're hitting Ikea later today and I have a cr@p load of orders from my friends ranging from entertainment units (flat packed) to blankets and shower curtains! Lucky my new car turns into a mini moving van! Shane saw the car yesterday and says it looks great - he even got to touch it! LMAO! :fingerscrossed: it all goes well for us today.

Well we've only just finished our wonderful buffet brekky in which I'm stuffed my self silly with all the things I wouldn't cook at home! We also just found a complimentry business centre for hotel guests which has cable internet for free so I'm just LOVING this and would be so happy to just sit here all day and catch up on everybody! But Melbourne awaits!

Crashed with Tracey (twoblue) for a night and Shane and I had dinner at their place last night. She's a gorgeous girl and we're such good friends thanks to bubhub! I got a crash course in what little boys are like - Holy Cow!! I'm not sure if I'm ready! Need to stock pile on bandaid and find myself a fountain of youth and energy! LMAO!

OMG How wonderful was it to meet Fi! You guys would just LOVE to meet both her and Claire! Claire has this AMAZING strawberry blonde hair and she's a very clever little girl! She even eats sushi which totally shocked the pants off me! LOL! Fi is so cool! I'd only seen a couple of photos of her before we met and she's so pretty! Fi - I don't care what you say about beached whales etc, your skin was GLOWING! I hope I can look like you when I'm at 35 week! We had lunch together, shopped for bargains (Hayles we did you proud!) and chatted like we'd known each other forever! We are all SO going on a trip to Vanuatu together!

Ok so I'm getting the evil eye from Shane - he's done with whatever he was doing so I'd better go. Back home on Sunday so I can't wait to catch up on everything! Fi tells me that there's new people here! I can't wait to meet you!

Cr@p! Gotta go!
Love ya!!
xoxo

hayleylea

02-02-2007, 10:36

Nat - just checked out your site! its excellent and Connor is VERY cute!!!! is your website free? it looks awesome. Great job! As for the beaded jewellery - goodluck with it - cant wait to see some of your stuff.

Anna - GREAT to hear from you and sounds like you are having fun! Cant wait to hear from you again soon! How great you and Fi had such a lovely time, it must have been excellent. Enjoy the rest of your time away and your trip to Ikea! Cant wait to see a photo of your new car! - How exciting.

Talk soon guys gotta go get munchkin some lunch!

bingo

02-02-2007, 11:54

Oh Fi,
sorry to hear that Claire is not herself. There seems to be another rampage of a nasty cold going around at the moment. Maddi has been very, very grumpy this last week. I initially put it down to her top molars coming through, but she had runny nose which I also put down to teething. But then 2 days ago I started wtih a sore throat and myself felt like cr@p. So big chance Maddi had the same. Here's hoping Claire starts to feel better soon.
We just had the advanced maternal health nurse out to chat about Maddi's sleeping. She seemed to have some good recommendations which we'll start tommorow. :fingerscrossed:
Oh Anna and fi it sounds like you two got on really well. can't wait to see the photos! Anna, hope your enjoying Melbourne and all that shopping. The best fun would be spending other peoples money. I hope that you get your car today. I love Ikea.......especially when you have all day to peruse at your lesuire.
I can't believe Conner has tooth #14! :eek: is that a full set now? Great to hear from you. I checked out the website and it looks great. I'm trying to source a website to create a free webshare.
Well better go as DH is home for lunch and we're trying to organise a holiday away. Our holiday to Lorne has been cancelled as our friends husband has broken his ankle. Ah its all too hard.

MrsMiggins

02-02-2007, 16:19

Oh no Lou!!! That's no good about your holiday being cancelled! :( Although great news that the nurse had some usable suggestions for Maddi's sleeping issues. I'd love to hear how you go if they work for her!

Anna, you've made me all embarrassed now!! :laughing: I actually thought you were gorgeous!! I felt decidedly unglamorous next to you with all that lovely, glossy hair! We did have a ball, and it was a shame we couldn't have spent longer together. Oh well! Next time! And yes, we are all going to Vanuatu! :yes: I hope it all worked out with the car!!

Tan, I know what you mean about daycare. I've often considered it, but just couldn't bring myself to really think too seriously about it. Not that I have anything at all against daycare, but I would be so worried abuot finding the right place etc. Oh, that & the cost!! I'm sure you will both be fine. Given a couple of weeks I bet you'll wonder what all the fuss was about.

Nat, Hayley's right - that is a great website!! I just checked out some of his latest photos and OMG - what a big boy Connor is now! You are so right when you say that they are all growing up so fast. I too am floored every time I think that Claire will be 2 on her next birthday! Where were those pics taken of Connor on the animal statues? I love the elephant one! :D

Well, I took Claire to see a Dr today. I think I mentioned our regular Dr is away & the surgery closed til Monday. He was very nice, but he wasn't actually sure what was wrong with her. Apparently some of her symptoms are consistent with a viral infection, while others completely contradict it! So who knows. She also woke up this morning with a bit of conjunctivitis in one eye - she hasn't had conjunctivitis for months. He gave me 2 prescriptions for some antibiotics - one for her eye & the other for her infection - if that's what it is - but said to wait & see if a) her eye gets any worse or b) she develops a fever or her snot goes green (sorry - gross!) before I go giving her any antibiotics. I'm not all that keen on giving them to her, so we'll see how we go. The saline for her eye seems to be doing the trick at this stage & hopefully the other stuff will clear up on its own.

Well, she's just woken up (told you she knows when I'm posting in here!!) so I'd better run!

Chat soon!

hayleylea

02-02-2007, 17:21

Fi, sorry to hear the doctor couldnt really pin point what was wrong with Claire. Hopefully it will all clear up sooner rather then later. Now ive seen photos of both Fi and Anna and you are both as gorgeous as each other!

Im back at home now so i better run and get unpacked.

Talk soon!

hayleylea

02-02-2007, 19:47

Im excited! Cooper put himself to sleep byhimself tonight. We have had success here and there but he usually had to be pretty well half asleep before i could put him in his cot. Tonight he was really fidgity when i was giving him a cuddle so i got his ted put him into bed and sat there for awhile and he just laid there and cuddled ted, i went out of the room he cried and i went back in and just sat beside his bed - didnt touch him or anything just said go to sleep and he did!! :smiliedance: Im going to try and do this every nap/sleep time and see how I go because he is getting tooooooo big to cuddle to sleep! Im so happy i had success without too much crying or anything like that. Ted has been a HUGE help..he feels safe with him in bed so that made it easier. :fingerscrossed: he does it tommorrow aswell FINALLY hehe! As excited as I am it is a little sad...i love our cuddles for bed and it seems as though he is growing up now and doesnt need me as much! :crying: :p

So thats my success story for tonight - might be a different story tommorrow lol

Have a good night everyone and a GREAT weekend.

MrsMiggins

02-02-2007, 20:44

Oh Hayles!!! That's fantastic!!!

I've had a bit of success here & there too - ie: I can lay Claire in her cot before she's completely out to it now & she no longer screams the house down, so we're getting there - albeit slowly!! :D

That is so great though! I hope he keeps it up for you!!

PS: Claire went back to sleep after my last post & didn't wake up til 6.30!!!! :eek: Late night for your's truly!!! Dave's been up since 3.30 am (so 2.30 QLD time - he woke up in Sydney this morning) and has to be up at 4 for work tomorrow!

hayleylea

03-02-2007, 06:42

Fi, I cant believe that Claire slept until 6.30! :eek: I couldnt even imagine what time she would go to bed after doing that. Do you ever think about waking her up? Or does that make things worse? I refuse to put Cooper down after 2.30 because other wise I have a hard time trying to get him to go bed of a night - stubborn little boy that he is.

He is still snoozing now. Trents out working on the house and Cooper and I are going to have a pretty quiet day at home.

Do any of your little ones use pillows now? I think Seth does?? What is the reccomendation for pillows? Sorry for all the questions. I am thinking about getting Cooper one, you can get them tetra ones (like the snuggle beds are made out of) He tosses and turns all night hitting his head and I thought maybe a pillow would make him a little more comfy but im still scared about the risk of SIDS! Love to know anyone elses thoughts on this subject.

bingo

03-02-2007, 07:37

Man its been hard to get on here lately. Its either Maddi or DH or the housework stopping me popping on or the fact I'm just dog gone tired.
Hayley, I think ages ago Anna had some links to info about pillows. From memory its around the 2 y.o mark when they start asking for one. But, put it this way. Maddi sleeps with us in our bed every night with a bed full of pillows. I'm pretty confident that Maddi will get up and move if she couldn't breathe properly. Lord knows she wakes us all up if she loses her dummy in the bed. I guess its whatever your comfortable with.
Fi - what time did Claire get to bed? Hopefully because she is sick she went to bed at a decent hour. Probably because she is feeling under the weather she had such a long afternoon sleep. It frustrates me heaps when DR's say "oh its a virus" and leave it at that. And then your left to deal with whatever symptoms ect. Did the DR check her ears in case she had an infection there? I'm paranoid about the ears thing now with Maddi's history. We are heading to the ENT on Thursday which I'm looking forward to so we can find out once and for all.
Tan the childcare thing will be great for the both of you. But be warned that Will may get a lot of sickness in the first 6 months of attending until his immunity builds up. But with only 10 kids you might not have that problem. I've found that since Maddi has been attending she is more willing to go to other people (apart from mum and dad), and is learning heaps of stuff (like blowing kisses, drawing, painting ect). Don't be surprised on the first day if your the one to cry and not Will.
Hayley - how great that Cooper went to sleep like that. I can't wait for that day to happen. I spent 2 hours with the "sleep lady" yesterday and we went through everything Maddi does, what we have tried and where do we go from here. It was really great because she assured me that we hadn't done anything wrong and that its a common phase for the kids to go through from 8 months to 18 months. She said that CC isn't going to work for Maddi because she shows signs of seperation anxiety. So to start with we have moved Maddi's cot into our bedroom, I've got to get her to "attach" to an item that will become her sleep buddy (just like Coopers Ted), and we will progress from there. I'll be stoked if she can progress to sleeping in her cot.
DH has gone to Albury for the weekend to coach hockey. And he has taken my beloved camera :eek: So its a girls weekend for us. Might head down the street before it gets too hot and before Maddi wants to have her nap. Has anyone candled their ears? I'm a big advocate for it as its helped me with my sinus prob's in the past. Its cool stuff.
Now I'm blabbing. Sorry 'bout that.

hayleylea

03-02-2007, 08:16

Lou - goodluck with getting Maddi to sleep. i dont think it would be hard to get her attached to a teddy or something. Cooper took to his in no time and now its his best friend lol I am hopeless on the controlled crying front...i find it too stressfull for me. I do let him cry it out a bit though. But i find that me staying in the room with him last night and moving out slowly worked well so ill persist with that and see how i go. Have a grea girls weekend :)

As for pillows im going to look into it. I know you can get the ones that the snuggle beds are made out of so i Might have a look at them. Im quite confident that he would be able to move if it was obstructing his breathing but its certainly not something i take lightly.

Anyway im off to hang these clothes out and then Cooper and I might go for a walk down the street and then to the park.

hayleylea

03-02-2007, 11:43

HI guys!! SUCCESS AGAIN!!!!! Cooper was getting tired so i said "its bed time, Get ted and go to bed" So he got ted and toddled of to his room and waited for me to put him and ted in! I layed him down and he let out a little cry and i said roll over and cuddle ted and close your eyes. He rolled over and cuddled ted. I waited in there for 5 minutes and went out and he was sound asleep!!!:smiliedance:

As you can tell im pretty excited about it. Im so proud of my little guy

(boy i can talk cant i! lol)

MrsMiggins

03-02-2007, 13:48

OMG Hayley! I'm jealous!!! As for the pillows, it depends where you get your info from. Some say 12 months, some say two years. But once they are past the 12 month mark, SIDS is no longer really an issue, unless the child has developmental dealys that would prevent them moving if they were unable to breathe. Certainly not an issue with Cooper! I think I'm going to hold out on the pillow thing though until Claire moves into a big bed. She doesn't really seem to need one now, although she absolutely loves lying down with cushions or pillows when she's not in bed, she doesn't need one to sleep & I very much doubt that she'd stay on it anyway. I guess you can get him one & see how you go. No harm trying!

Lou, it's great that the CHN was able to help you out. Let me know how you go with the transferrence thing (getting Maddi to attach to a toy, rather than to you). I've tried that with Claire with very little success, but I really have no idea how I'm meant to actually do it. She sleeps with 4 soft toys in her cot and while she loves them, she's not attached to any of them at all. I'm also glad to hear you say that the CHN said CC wouldn't work with Maddi as she showed signs of separation anxiety. I mean, I'm not glad that's the case if it makes it more difficult for you, but I get so much grief from people because I still have to cuddle Claire off to sleep, or because she flies into a tantrum if I so much as look like I'm going to move away from her (at any time of day - not just at sleep time) and what you've said makes me feel justified that it's not my fault. I really get so tired of people giving me nasty looks over it all, like it's something I've done to her & I'm the world's worst parent because I can't leave my child to scream & cry! The fact of the matter is - that's just what she's like and it's nothing I've done & she will one day get over it. I don't think I'm spoiling her, or doing anything wrong by not letting her get worked up over it. Sorry - vent over!!

Hayles, I usually let Claire sleep when she needs it, which she definitely did yesterday. I hate waking her up & generally it causes far more problems than it's worth. I actually don't mind her having late nights (at this stage - I may just change my mind on that come March!!) as I'm up anyway, and it's no bother to have her up until I'm ready to go to bed. She went to bed late last night, it was almost 11. She probably could have gone down earlier, but I was online doing the bubhub awards and she was quite happy playing in the lounge room and running in & jumping onto my lap every so often. The good thing about it was that she not only went to sleep really easily & stayed asleep all night, but she didn't wake up til 9am, which is unheard of for her!! It was great! I got up at 8.15 (very late for me, so a fantastic sleep-in!) and had a long, leisurely shower, washed my hair properly for the first time in weeks (I've just been doing a real quick, half-assed job of it lately!), shaved my legs, put body lotion on and had a relaxing breakfast all before she woke up!

I was so disappointed this morning! Yesterday it was much, much cooler and last night it rained quite heavily. When I woke up this morning, it was still cool & overcast & I thought "Brilliant!!! This must be the cool change everyone's been swearing blind we're due for!" But by 9.30 the clouds had all gone & the sun was blazing down, hotter than ever!! And now because we had all that rain - OMG! And I thought it was humid before!!! :eek:

Do you guys know what? It's my birthday next week!! I'll be 31! Aaaaaaarrrrghhhhhh!!!!!! :laughing: David had better remember or by Jove there will be one very cranky person in this house! (well crankier than normal anyway!)

hayleylea

03-02-2007, 14:37

Hey Fi, You are definatley not a bad mother for not being able to lety our child cry. I cant do it either. I think i last about 5 minutes max and then i get all emotional myself lol. So thats why im sitting with Cooper while he pops off to sleep. Eventually I dont think he will need me sitting in there with me. As for the late nights with Claire - hey whatever works!!! Thats good she was good for you during the bubhub awards. How did you go??! I havent checked it out yet. OH and YAY for your Bday next week...i tell ya what if Dave forgets ill be coming up there to give him a boot in the backside myself! lol
I did get myself one of them Tetra pillows today. Im not too sure ill be giving it to him right now but ill see how I go.

Anyway im off again..

MrsMiggins

03-02-2007, 14:44

Let us know how you go with the pillow if you decide to try it. And thanks for the support. I just get a bit cranky when people (often middle-aged ladies!!) tut-tut me and give me dirty looks when it comes up that I still rock her to sleep, or when someone says to me "Oh, just leave her here, I'll watch her for a second for you" and I have to say "Thanks, but I can't" IYKWIM.

I didn't win an award, but I was only nommed in the most helpful mod category, and I was up against some pretty stiff competition!! :D

hayleylea

03-02-2007, 14:50

oh Fi, i know all about the people who :shame: at rocking bubs to sleep . I actually think its quite sweet, i enjoyed doing it with Cooper. I just think its time (and i think Cooper is ready - well he obviously is) to go to bed by himself. Claire will let you know when she is ready..and till then enjoy your cuddles to sleep with her and if middle ages woman want to question your parenting the :p to them lol!

bingo

03-02-2007, 16:45

Fi, mate...........you and me have the same issues with our girls by the sounds of things. And I've also experienced the whole CC thing with people of all ages. I've actually found people my age to be the worst criticizes of all. It really gets my goat. Well be rest assured that I was assured by a trained pro that its quite OK and basically whatever method you use is fine as long as you are happy with it. We tried CC and it didn't work and she agreed which was fantastic. I really was expecting her to tell me I hadn't tried long enough ect. But no........so I am a lot happier after her visit.
She gave me a fact sheet which I could photocopy for you and post to you if your interested. Its got all the stats for how many toddlers wake through the night ect. Reading all those figures I thought wow, we're normal!!
Don't get me wrong I'm not against CC at all. I've tried it and wished it worked on Maddi.
Well we've had an exciting afternoon. I went to take MAddi for a walk in the park and don't ask me how but I fell down a drain (big spoon drain) and sprained my ankle. There I was laying in the drain in agony and Maddi was up on the pavement looking down at me and started crying when I did. There was NOBODY around and of all days I didnt have my phone with me. So I hobbled up out of the drain and stuffed Maddi into the car and drove home. Thank god its an automatic. Now I'm waiting for my brother to come over to help out as DH is away all weekend. I feel like such a ditz.
Oh Hayley, I had success getting Maddi to sleep in her cot after we spoke on MSN. She was too tired to argue. She only slept for an hour and was very grumpy when she woke up. I'm sure that if I laid down with her in our bed she would have nodded off again but that would have negated everything I just did. Fingers crossed for tonight. Although with this ankle I don't know how long I can persist for.

cath

03-02-2007, 17:08

Hello there,
I am with you girls in not being able to listen to the crying and having people find it wrong that we are still rocking/cuddling Paddy to sleep. How can it be wrong when it reallly doesn't bother us that much and we have one very happy and content little boy. My friend did CC with her baby and he is such an insecure little boy who cries quite often. Dean and I think he is so sooky because he has been left to cry in his room with noone responding to him.We are very happy to respond to the need of our baby -he will only be a baby for a little while more and soon enough he will grow up and be happy to go to bed on his own (like Cooper). How exciting Hayley that he is on the way -while it is a bit sad for you it will also be so nice to ultimately put him in bed and walk away - think of all the extra time you will have. My mum is always at me that we need to change it now before baby 2 arrives but she is all talk -she cuddles and rocks him when she looks after him to get him to sleep and doesn't leave him to cry. It is not something that is an easy fix and we are not going through hell to fix it.

Lou good luck with the gradual changes with Maddi -have you (or has she) chosen the thing to take to bed yet? We have tried that a bit with no luck so far but we might try again soon. Hope she is good for you while Tony is away.

Anna hope the car has all worked out and you had fun at Ikea. Last time I went the queues were nuts. Who was looking after the girls while you were away? Has it sunk in that you are having a boy?

I went to my first prenatal yoga class with this pregnancy this morning which was great -so good to stretch out my back a bit - it was really starting to hurt.

Anyway better go. Hope everyone is having a good weekend.

Cath

hayleylea

03-02-2007, 17:14

Oh you poor thing Lou!!!! I hope your ankle isnt too bad! is it swollen?! Thats nice your brother is coming oveer to help! Also good that you got Maddi to go down after our chat....im with you im not against controlled crying, ive heard it works wonders. I can let him cry but not for hours on end. I think every parent has their own ways when it comes to their kids, none are wrong. Whatever works do it I say!

Cath - glad to hear your yoga class went well. And for Fi, Cath and Lou...I didnt think id see the day where Cooper would just go to bed without me - i think ted was a huge help so if you can get them to have a bed buddy hopefully that will help. The thing is they will eventually all go to bed by themself...We are are only early days yet with Cooper. So far so good but im still not totally confident about putting him down tonight lol. Can only try.

Have a great night guys. Lou i hope Maddi sleeps well for you tonight so you can rest up that ankle of yours!

cath

03-02-2007, 17:19

Oh Lou you poor thing - lucky you could make it to the car.How scary. I fell down a gutter and twisted my ankle and grazed my knee last weekend (while holding Paddy mind you). Luckily I managed to keep hold of him and keep him off the road but it was very scary. Luckily Dean was with us to help me up and it wasn't too bad a sprain -was really painful all night but mostly better by the next day. That's great that your brother is around to help - you will need it. Rest up poor girl.

Katcha

03-02-2007, 18:39

Fi, I wouldn't worry about what other people thinking of you rocking Claire to sleep. Katelyn goes to sleep on either myself or my hubby at night & then we carefully put her to bed without waking her......if she wakes up like last night, she'll certainly let us know about it!

Hayley, yes the hubby's a stay at home dad at the moment. But he'll be going back to work in October when she's 2. Then she'll have to go into day care for a while.....until I go off on maternity leave again. (No, we're not TTC at the moment, but maybe in the next few months) Oh, & with the pillow thing, I've heard a couple of different things. I've hear that they can start using a pillow when they're 2. I've also heard that it's when they move into the big bed that they're ready for a pillow. I don't think Katelyn will be having a pillow for a while.....there's no way she stay on it anyway....she ends up in all sorts of positions whil she's sleeping!

Nat, just checked out your website for Connor...he's a cutie, & the site looks great! :thumbsup: Wow, Connor's got 14 teeth now? Katelyn's still only got 2! :eek:

hayleylea

03-02-2007, 18:43

Katelyns mum - thanks for the advice about the pillows. I cant believe Katelyn only has 2 teeth! :eek: god love her! Cooper has all of his!! and has done for a few months now! :eek: (except for the 2year old molars of course)

Oh success again tonight with Cooper going to sleep :smiliedance: ...it took about half an hour before he went to sleep. He cried once when i went out of the room so i went and sat at the door and off he went. It was a little harder then his nap today though but hey it all takes time!

Wivi

03-02-2007, 18:52

Hi guys,

Just a quick post as I am still at the farm and I shouldn't stay out here all that long. I'll write more when I get home.

Lou - I hope your ankle is OK. What a nuisance and i know exactly what you mean about embarrasing!

Just wanted to add my bit about CC. I am so glad you had a positive experience with the MCHN Lou. I think CC is quite a bit dependent on the child and the parent. We did use a modified form (more like controlled comforting) for a short time and it worked for us but I know that it doesn't work for everyone. But Will has had a bed buddy since he was 12 weeks old and my suggestion would be that you and Maddi maybe buy a new soft toy together. My other suggestion would be that the new toy is only for bed and no matter what method you use to get Maddi to sleep you make sure that the soft toy is there. Will's teddy is always with us if he is going to have a sleep and it is just part of the sleep routine. At night he has a bottle with teddy then we put him in his sleep sack and then have a cuddle all with teddy before we put him into bed. He is exactly like Cooper in that he will get teddy before going to bed. It is great.

For all of you who cuddle your littlies to sleep - I used to be critical of that too. I have learnt my lesson big time. At the end of the day I didn't do that with Will because I am lazy and was terrified of still doing when he was big. Oh and because I read this rubbish that if you cuddle them to sleep that they will never sleep through the night because when they stir they will want another cuddle. Obviously written by people who didn't do it - I can see from you guys that it isn't a problem. I actually can see now how nice it can be and they are little for such a short time!

I know that I was blessed with a child who just loves to sleep and always has. He is also incredibly easy going and let's just say that separation anxiety is not a problem around here. But that is his personality - i know that it is nothing I have done because I am such a stress head that you would think that would have rubbed off on him!

Anyway - I have got to get off here and I promise to write a proper post when I get home.

YAY for Cooper going off to bed by himself though (only because that's what Hayley has been aiming for).

hayleylea

03-02-2007, 19:00

Tan i was wondering where you had got too!! Hope your having a great time at the farm.

I actually got a bit teary tonight when he went off to sleep again by himself. Its funny isnt it? i would have given anything to get him to go to bed by himself and now its finally happening it makes you feel a bit sad!! He was so funny tonight he kept "pretending" to be asleep, then he would peak at me and laugh and then just roll over and cuddle ted. Cheeky little monkey! But he did eventually go to sleep, and I am very excited about it at the same time as feeling a little sad. Trents just had to rush out to our out of town house. He put a bit of the roof up today but couldnt screw it all the way down (had the wrong shoes on and the roof is steep!) And there is a big storm heading that way so he is just staying there to make sure we dont get any water leaks...speak of the devil he just walked in the gate and everything is OK!! YAY!

Goodnight all. Geez ive posted alot latley...i really need to get a life :o :laughing:

bingo

04-02-2007, 07:41

YAY for Cooper Hayley. :yelclap: . 3 in a row now yeah? Thats a great sign that he's got it down as routine and he seems so happy with it. I can understand why you would be sad about it, its like its yet another one of his baby stages gone.
Tan, thanks for the suggestion of just having Maddi's sleep toy as only a bedtime item. I hadn't thought of that. She has so many soft toys, a lot of them mine from the past. So there definitely would have been the threat of bedtime toy becoming yet another stuffed toy. I was thinking of having a special pillow? The sleep lady did say to bring out the bedtime toy whilst Maddi was having her bedtime bottle and cuddle and to try and get her to stroke it while she was feeding. She said it may take a while to form an attachment. Before all these problems started I was under the impression that it was not good to have one of those bedtime things, but now I understand that it can make a big difference. I can't wait for the day that Maddi will get to Coopers stage.
Well last night I was not too bad. Maddi slept the entire night in her cot. Mind you she woke a multitude of times and I was so close to pulling the pin and just dragging her over the cot barrier to sleep with me. So saying she Slept is probably not the right word to use. Well at 7.30am I was awakened by Maddi standing in her cot and saying "Boo" and she really did scare me. She thought it was hilarious. So it was great to be awoken by a jovial baby even though we had a night of broken sleep. The worst time was from 3.30am when she woke every hour or so.
I have to say it was much easier to do this without DH in the house. Don't ask me why but it was. I guess I had noone else to rely on and I wasn't worried about what he thought or if he was getting enough sleep.
My ankle hasn't blown up today or bruised up which is great. But it actually makes me more worried because it really does hurt to walk on it and in the back of my mind I'm wondering if perhaps I didn't sprain it, but have broken a small bone? I guess that would hurt more? Has anyone done that before - what does that feel like? I know when I fell I could hear a lot of crunching and the sounds itself made me feel ill.
Oh Cath, I've always got that fear of falling whilst holding Maddi. Glad that DH was around to help you guys up. I bet Paddy got a fright when you fell. Either that or thought it was a fun ride. THeir getting so big now there kiddies. I'll have to stick Maddi on the scales to see how heavy she is.
Renee, how great that DH is a SAHD. Has DH always been at home with Katelyn or have you guys alternated. My DH has always said he would love to but I'm not sure how he would have coped FT. So does you DH go to "mothers" groups? I think thats terrific.
Well I'm going to attempt a shower and to semi clean the floor. Its a minefield here and the last thing I need is to step on one of Maddi's toys.

hayleylea

04-02-2007, 09:24

hey Lou...id probably go and get your ankle checked out if its still sore tommorrow. Well done with getting Maddi to sleep in her cot all night. Take it easy today dont want to over do it on that ankle. I think the pillow is a great idea too.

Just read Annas MSN message and she is back and gone to get her kiddies! YAY Great to have you back Anna!

Renee, i forgot to mention that its great your hubby is a SAHD...:thumbsup:

Gotta go, we have some people coming to look at Trents Army amublance today and possibly selling it! Trents wants to sell it but doesnt, if it does sell i think he will be a bit sad but its worth $12 000 which paid only half that...so we will see how we go. The money would come in handy with the house.

talk soon. Have a great sunday

Katcha

04-02-2007, 11:40

Lou, the hubby hasn't always been a SAHD. I initially had about 5 months off work...1 month before I gave birth & went back when Katelyn was 4 months old. I was originally going back when she was 3 months old, but I decided I'd like to stay home a bit longer. As soon as I went back to work the hubby went on parental leave from his work. The plan is for him to go back to work in October this year so Katelyn will have to go into day care. I won't be having any more time off until I'm on maternity leave again.....which could possibly be at the start of next year if all goes to plan. :fingerscrossed:
Sorry to hear your ankle is still sore. You really should get it checked out. You might get sent for a bone scan, which is one of the things that I do! Hope it gets better soon anywy.

Hayley, that's great that Cooper's settling himself down to sleep with ted now. I think Katelyn's a long way off that...But that's OK, I don't mind her falling asleep on us.....she looks so cute when she's asleep & we're putting her to bed. :sleeping:

hayleylea

04-02-2007, 12:01

Renee....im with you on how cute it is when they go to sleep on you. I love it. Some people think your mad for cuddling a 15 month old (or any age) bub to sleep but I think its a really special time. Cooper really showed me he was ready thats the only reason i have really persisted with it. And it also makes it easier when people mind him (not that they mind cuddling him to sleep except the MIL lol)

Well we didnt sell the army truck - not all that worried though at the moment. We only put it on ebay to see how much interested we got anyway.

We just went down to a swap meet (car thingy and also markets) Cooper was a good little boy, we sat in some shade to have some lunch and he was having a ball playing then SPLAT! head first onto the concrete! :eek: He has a bit of a graze on his forehead but nothing too bad. He soon got back down and started to play so it couldnt have detered him that much. Anyway its time to put this boy to bed...later sleep then normal because he didnt get up till 9am.

How hot is it!!!!! Stay cool girls! Nice day for an ice cold beer...or a nice cold lemonade for the girls that are pg:p Hehe Ill be joining you in the lemonade girls - still havent touched a drop of alcohol since my last shocker on aussie day :laughing:

ETA - make that 4/4 Cooper just went down without so much as a whinge!! day time sleeps seem easier then night time ones with this whole getting him to sleep by himself. But we are getting there. God love him.

MrsMiggins

04-02-2007, 13:07

Ouch!! I hope your ankle is OK, Lou! I don't want to concern you, but how you are describing your ankle today sounds like DH's hand when he broke one of the bones in it (running past the couch to answer the phone, would you believe?!) Although his did swell up a bit, but I would definitely get your ankle checked out. They will probably do an x-ray on it & be able to tell you straight away. If it is broken & it's not too serious, you may just need it bandaged up for a while. But if it's not, at least you can rest assured.

I think in a couple of weeks time, you are going to have Maddi all sorted out. It's great you didn't end up needing to get her up last night, even though she woke a fair bit. I think once she feels confident enough that you are still there, she'll be better sleeping through & then once that happens, you'll be able to move her back to her own room. I bet it doesn't take long.

As for the CC, I would probably do it if I thought for a second it'd work with Claire, but I know we wouldn't stand a chance. I know what you're saying Hayley - I would really like to be able to go "Right. 7.30 - time for bed young lady." Get her ready for bed, pop her in her cot, walk out & then not hear a peep until 7 the next morning. But by the same token, I really love our night time routine now, and it doesn't bother me having to do it every night. We love our special cuddle time! I will admit though I lose patience when she takes over an hour to go to sleep like she did last night! It's fine if she just has her bottle and drifts off to sleep (which she does a fair bit, although less often as the weeks go by, it seems) but when you know she's tired, but she just refuses to sleep, it's frustrating. More so I think because I panic a bit thinking about how on earth I'm going to be able to do this with a newborn (who hopefully will be breastfed) and especially when Dave goes away. I mean, I can't exactly sit in the bedroom with Claire, rocking her to sleep for over an hour, when I have a newborn sitting elsewhere in the house, screaming his head off! Eeeeeek! Oh well! I'm sure we'll work something out in the end!! :D

I'm actually 36 weeks today, BTW. Man it's gone so fast!!! I can't believe that probably some time within the next month (certainly within the next 6 weeks) I'll have a newborn!!! :eek:

Tan, I had to have a chuckle at your post! I too used to think that people who had to put their kids to sleep were mad and that they'd created problems for themselves! (Mind you, I kept it to myself - I'd never have tsk-tsk'd anyone about it!) I always swore my kids would never be like that! :laughing: The thing with Claire was that right from birth, if you so much as looked like putting her down when she was awake, she'd scream blue murder & wouldn't stop til you picked her up! I never knew babies could be like that!! I am reeeeeeeeeeeeally hoping this one won't be!!!!

I hope you're having a good time out on the farm! When do you get back?

Oh Hayley!! How's Cooper's head? I bet he hardly notices it!! It's hot here again today too (hmph! Just for something different! :rolleyes:) I was saying to Dave that at least if I went into labour now I might be able to enjoy a nice a/c room for a few days in the hospital!! They might not be able to get rid of me!! lol

I'm so happy for you that Cooper is being such a good little boy with his sleeps!! It must make life so much easier for you. Daytime sleeps are usually a breeze for us, but that's because I know when Claire's likely to be wanting a sleep and so I go out in the morning, timing it so that she can fall asleep in the car on the way home! I know it's kind of cheating, but hey - it works! Why mess with success?! Plus it means I can usually get stuff done (groceries, library etc) done that need doing in the mornings.

No drinkies since Aus day, huh? Maybe you could enjoy a lovely shandy?! (Don't laugh! I actually don't mind the odd shandy on a hot summer's day! hee! hee!)

OK. I'm outta here. Have a good one ladies!!

Wivi

04-02-2007, 19:07

Hi everyone! We are back home again now and I have been catching up on your posts properly.

Firstly - well done Lou on last night's effort! That must have been really hard to do it on your own and I am so impressed that you stuck it out. I agree, before you know it Maddi will be sleeping like a dream. That's funny that the sleep lady said to bring the bed toy out when Maddi has her bedtime bottle. We just kind of fell into that habit somewhere along the way so now it is bottle, book and bed all with teddy! I hope your foot is on the mend too. make sure you get DH to do as much as possible to help because no matter what the problem is in there the more you stand and walk on it the longer it will take to heal!

Fi - I can't believe you are 36 weeks already. Do you have "the bag" packed? It's not a silly question either - Will was 2 weeks early and I didn't have my bag packed! Oh and I just wanted to let you know that even with Will you can't say "right 7pm off to bed!" and that's it. He really needs to have that 10 or 15 minutes quiet time before bed otherwise he will cry for a few minutes when you put him into bed. It's not like 10 minutes of howling or anything but he will get a bit upset. As they say - babies and toddlers thrive on routine! I guess we all have our bedtime rituals though even as adults. I always get a glass of water to put next to my bed, then clean my teeth and then go to the toilet before hopping into bed. Nine times out of ten I will read a book for a little while too. So I guess I have a bedtime routine too.

Hayley- it sounds as though you are on a roll with the sleeping thing with Cooper too. I think it sounds as though you really know how to read him and know when he is ready for different things. Good for you!

Renee - it is nice to meet someone whose partner is a SAHD! We are supposed to "share" Will's care as we both work from home but I don't think we share 50/50. But I love that Troy is so involved with Will - they have a very special relationship as a result and I also feel really confident leaving Will with Troy if I need too. It doesn't stop me missing Will or wondering if he is ok but I am sure it is a lot easier this way.

Hi to Cath and Nat. I checked out Connor's website too - he looks like a real cutie.

Cath - how scary that you fell with Paddy! I would have been so frightened!

Well we had a fantastic time at the farm. Will got a bit excited and ran up to a fence to see the cows at one point and scared them and they all ran away! He also loved Mum and Dad's chooks and of course the farm dog. We went out on the tractor with my Dad today and he loved it so much. But then he fell asleep on it (I know - again!) and I had to carry him off which was very awkward to say the least. He just loves going to the farm now - all that open space to run and explore. He even helped my Mum hose her garden - so cute! We had two hiccups over the weekend, the first one being that for some reason Will threw up in the car on the way to the farm, something he has never done before. I can highly recommend always taking a large bottle of water and a change of clothes in the nappy bag for car trips! Neither of which we had and had to rummage around in the boot while Will stood at the side of the road (in the country) in his nappy! The other hiccup is one that we seem to always have at the farm in that Will wakes up a lot earlier than usual. But it seems we have worked it out in that there are a lot of animal noises early in the morning that wake him up and scare him. It's not disgustingly early - just ealier than normal.

Oh oh oh!!! I am so excited! My brother just rang and he got engaged today!!!!! This is my oldest brother - he has been married before and needless to say it didn't work out. They are getting married in 9 weeks!!! So more quick arranging and more plane flights for us.

Oh boy - have to go and call my Mum. Am too excited for words right now!!

hayleylea

04-02-2007, 19:25

Tan - Sounds like Will had a GREAT time at the farm! how cute!! Im sure Will could sleep absolutley anywhere lol. A big Congrats to your brother!! WOW they certainly dont waist anytime! lol Good for them!

5/5 trys girls with getting Cooper to go to sleep in hs cot by himself!! lol I wonder when i will stop counting :laughing: Only took 15 minutes too! :smiliedance: Very happy!

Anyway im chatting to lou and Tan on messenger so ill talk soon!

Katcha

04-02-2007, 22:01

Oh Lou, I forgot to say, yep the hubby DID go mother's groups....he was the only guy there! Once the mother's group sessions were over they formed a playgroup which he still takes her to. :)

Tan, it seems like there are more SAHDs around the place nowadays. And it seems even the ones who aren't SAHDs like to help out more with looking after the bub than they used to in the past.....my mum told me about my dad not ever wanting to change my nappy, & the one time he did he used tongs to pick it up because he didn't want to touch it! :laughing:

hayleylea

05-02-2007, 07:01

tan, it seems like there are more SAHDs around the place nowadays. And it seems even the ones who aren't SAHDs like to help out more with looking after the bub than they used to in the past.....my mum told me about my dad not ever wanting to change my nappy, & the one time he did he used tongs to pick it up because he didn't want to touch it! :laughing:

:laughing: :laughing: At your dad! Thats hillarious! But yep thats what they were all like in the past. My mum said my dad was exactly the same too. Im pretty lucky with Trent..when he isnt at work he is a great help with Cooper, and when Cooper was a bub he was good if he had a bad night etc. When it comes to pooey nappys he changes them but he still screws his nose up :laughing: I also feel totally at ease leaving Cooper with Trent.

I have a sty in my eye - its soooooooooo sore and its started to swell up. I have some stuff for it that ill keep putting in. I use to get stys all the time when i was a kid - i havent had one for awhile, not this bad anyway! OUCH!!

Im off to have a shower before Super Cooper wakes up...

Wivi

05-02-2007, 08:13

Owies Hayley! The whole sty in the eye thing is awful. I ahven't had one since I was a child but I can remember how painful they were.

Will had a much better sleep last night but he is a cranky little man today. It's weird how going different places always seems to end up with a grumpy Will the first day we are home again. I can see the big part of those top molars pushing through now so I guess that probably isn't helping at all.

I've settled down again after all the excitement last night. I did however think that my brother getting engaged was a very good excuse for a drink so I went and found a bottle of port for a nightcap! Hmm - might explain why I am a little cranky today too!:laughing:

For the record, my Dad has never changed a nappy in his whole life and gets very nervous at the thought. It's pretty funny. He also never pushed us in the pram as kids. I think he has pushed Will now but he looks very funny. It's definitely not what he thinks farmers should be doing!

Gotta go again everyone. I'll see if I can catch any of you on messenger today!

Welcome back Anna by the way - glad to hear you made it home safe and sound.

hayleylea

05-02-2007, 11:34

:smiliedance: Cooper went down straight away today. I didnt even have to stay in the room with him at all. YAY! I thought this would have been so hard but so far it has been great! Im so proud of my little man! :hugs:

OK now im off to clean up this house, just cant get motivated today! hmmmm better get to it!

cath

05-02-2007, 15:34

Hayley that is unreal!! That has been so fast. What a good boy. As much as I don't really mind rocking Paddy to sleep I long for the day I can put him in the cot awake and he stays lying down and goes to sleep (think we are a long way off that unfortunately). I am not against CC either as long as the baby is checked on -this friend's baby who is sooky is just left to cry for ages (I think it was an hour and a half one night - awful). I just think I am too weak to do it (at this point anyway).

I have the same worry as you Fi about the times it takes ages to get Paddy to bed once baby 2 is here. That's especially hard with Dave going away now and then. At least Paddy can always wait to go to bed until Dean gets home and maybe he is just going to have to miss the occasional day sleep or something. I'm sure we will work it out as we go along. Only 4 weeks (or so) to go for you -how exciting. Is the VBAC still all on? How are you feeling?

Tan how exciting about your brother's wedding. You are one busy, travelling family. Good luck with the travel arrangements (I saw your other thread - quite a challenge isn't it?). How cute about Will falling asleep on the tractor -funny boy.

Lou how is that ankle?

Renee we have a few regular Dad's in our "mother's group" too and it is great.

Oh man -I was going to write more but Paddy is obsessed with hanging around me and pressing buttons so will have to get on later.

Cath

Wivi

05-02-2007, 19:00

Hi everyone,

Cath - just a little note about CC. I think what your friends did was more what is known as CIO (Cry It Out). Controlled Crying is exactly that in my books - Controlled. That doesn't mean leaving a baby totally alone until they stop. Although - now I think about it I vaguely recall that Babylove describes controlled crying as pretty much just leaving them to it. I think even the sleep schools advocate Controlled Comforting where the baby cries for a bit but then you still go in and reassure before leaving again. That was the impression I got from my friend when she took her daughter to a sleep school. Oh - I took Will when he was 8 weeks old to a day stay sleep place (although in retrospect I didn't need to go) and they fully supported the parent going in to comfort the child. I went because I decided I didn't know what I was doing - as it turned out there was nothing the matter at all!

From my other thread I have decided to stick to the original plan and fly out to my brother's wedding. I don't know what I was thinking about the driving. Too far to drive for a short stay. I did get lots of good ideas about keeping him occupied on the plane though and that made me feel a lot better. Now I just have to tackle the accommodation part. I think my brother thinks we can all stay at his place - :no: it's a two bedroom house! I am thinking we might get ourselves a cabin or a house somewhere for a few days. Then if Will does have an off night or something we are not disturbing anyone else and we can do our own thing whenever we want. I admit to getting a bit stressed when people comment on your parenting and there is noone like family members for doing that is there?

Will is going to start with his half days at child care tomorrow! I feel very nervous and I felt sad putting his name on his things today. But I keep telling myself that it is only three hours and that is nothing!

I should mosey off and fold up all my washing - that's one thing that really annoys me about going away: you always seem to wear so many more clothes!

hayleylea

05-02-2007, 19:10

Cath - you will get there with Paddy, i thought Cooper was a long way off - i was obvioulsy wrong. He will let you know when he is ready - or you can just try him every now and again..he will let you know if its not on lol.

Tan, goodluck with Will tommorrow going off to child care - im sure he will have a blast. 3 hours will be over before you know it! Is it only the one day a week? You got in quick! Thats great.

We had a great afternoon today. Trent, Cooper and I went to the pool and Cooper had a ball. Its the first time we have been to the public pool, we usually just set up his paddle pool or go to my sisters. Our local pool is actually getting rebuilt so there isnt one this summer - the gym has an indoor one but no baby pool so we went to blayney (20 minutes away). It was excellent. It was all indoors too, they had a baby pool, a middle pool and a big pool. Cooper had to try out all 3 :laughing: he didnt want to get out but we had been in for an hour or so and his little teeth started chattering ...lol.

Cooper went off to sleep by himself reasonably good tonight. I had to go in there twice and lay him back down but thats not too bad.

Have a great night everyone.

Wivi

05-02-2007, 19:35

Forgot to tell you guys that I updated Will's website today. Check out his farm pics!

hayleylea

05-02-2007, 19:46

Hey Tan, Checked out your site! I just LOVE Wills hair. He is turning into a real little blondie! Very cute!! Great pics!:thumbsup:

MrsMiggins

05-02-2007, 21:13

Hi guys! :wave:

Tan, glad you enjoyed your farm trip!! I would love to have a farm I could take Claire to every now & then, I know she'd just love it! BTW, no, I don't have my bag packed yet!! I am hopeless! I keep telling myself I will do it (I even went so far as to find the bags I wanted the other day & got them out ready to pack) but I haven't really even thought about what to take! I know I do need to get my butt into gear though. I have promised myself I'll do it before the weekend! Congrats to your brother!! Wow! 9 weeks is quite soon!

Renee, that's great your DH went to mum's group! Dave is great at looking after Claire (he's hopeless at some things, but that's more just me being pedantic, than anything he's doing "wrong"!) One day when I was working & he was looking after her, I got him to take her to the library (we go every week) and he was the only dad there. He felt a bit out of place, but he was ok with it. Thankfully he has no issue with nappy changing!! I remember when Claire was born, for weeks & weeks he was such a huge help. I complain about him a lot, but he's really quite good (shhhhhhhh!!! Don't ever tell him I said that!!)

My dad has been stuck looking after Claire on his own a few times now where he's had to change a pooey nappy! lol He doesn't mind & he is quite capable of doing it, but I know deep down he'd really rather not! If mum's there, he always leaves it up to her!

Cath, you never know you're luck - maybe Paddy will be putting himself to sleep by the time #2 comes along? Even if he's not, I guess we all find ways to cope. The way I see it, even if you have a hard time, it's not like neither child is ever going to sleep again. It'll work itself out. I too feel we are a long way away from Claire putting herself to sleep lke Cooper does. Although Hayley's right - one day they could just surprise you! (Oh, Claire did put herself to sleep tonight, but that's a different matter!! I'll explain about that later!) Yup! VBAC is still a goer! I'm getting very excited & nervous about it all! I had an OB appt today & I expressed my concerns re: the constant fetal monitoring, and they basically said to me that their absolute priority is getting mum & bub through ok, so while they can't force anyone to have EFM, they will be strongly advising it be done every step of the way. I think I will just wait & see how we go once we get there. If I'm in labour & I don't think I'll cope being strapped to a machine, I'm just going to say I don't want it. I know there are other ways they can monitor the baby effectively. On the other hand, if I feel I'm going OK, I may allow it & if at any time I don't want it any more, I'll ask them to remove it. Of course, I want my baby here safely too, but I think there is only a very small benefit to constant EFM and I am not at all convinced that it is worth doing if it is going to mean a greater chance of intervention & therefore a 2nd c/s (which is a very high likelihood when you aren't free to move around during labour, a point which even the OB acknowledged was true). But yes, I am feeling very good actually! Thanks for asking! I am one of these annoying women who actually enjoy being PG!! ;) I love every minute of it - despite all the discomforts!

Hayley, I'm so glad Cooper is still going to sleep on his own for you! Sounds like he had a blast at the swimming pool!! Do you find he tires out easily after a swim? I always find Claire is much easier to put to sleep on days where she's been swimming. How annoying that your local pool is being rebuilt over the summer!! Oh well, a nice new pool for next summer then! So have you guys decided that you're staying put?

OK, I have to tell you guys about my day. It's actually quite funny!

We went to playgroup this morning for the first time in months. I don't know if you remember, but our old one sort of collapsed after the woman who ran it moved away & we discovered she'd pinched all the money! Anyway, we went this morning & all the people there were just sooooooo so lovely!! We'll definitely be going again! One of the ladies who organises it has identical twin girls and when we were talking, we discovered that our girls are only 2 days apart - her daughters were born on the 13th! We would have been in hospital together, as we both gave birth at the same hospital!

Claire had, for some strange reason, decided to have a sleep-in this morning and didn't wake up til almost 9am!! I think she needed the sleep, as she'd had a bit of a rough night. I didn't need to go into her, but I know she woke up several times. So when playgroup finished at 11am (which would normally be great timing for her sleep), she wasn't tired. So we went to a friend's place and played there for a little while and then I drove her home. She did manage to fall asleep in the car on the way home, but half woke, crying just before we pulled in the driveway. So I got her out thinking that she'd calm down & go back to sleep, but she didn't. So I gave her some lunch & we played a bit & watched some telly.

I had to be at the hospital for my appt at 3.15, and mum & dad agreed to watch Claire for me while I went, so at 2 I decided I should take her around there, thinking she'd fall asleep in the car on the way over for sure. But no, she didn't! And of course as soon as we got to mum & dad's she was so excited to be there, she forgot all about having a sleep! I didn't get back from the hospital until after 5 and she was still awake! I didn't want her going to sleep then, so we drove home singing songs in the car the whole way to keep her awake! When we got home I could tell she was really, really tired, so I popped the TV on, ran & started her dinner, ran her bath and got all her stuff ready for bed. She was very whingey, but I knew if I could just get her to have a little bit of dinner and a quick bath, I could give her a bottle & she'd probably stay down all night. Well, I was just walking out to get her & put her in her high chair, when I looked over and she'd gone to sleep on the lounge room floor!! Bummer!!

That was just after 6. It's now 9.30 and she's cried out a couple of times but hasn't woken up yet. I wonder what sort of a night we're in for?!

My nephews are coming up from Canberra for a couple of days starting Thursday! Claire will be so excited!! She loves playing with them!!

Ooooh! Gosh!! Another epic post for you all!!! Sorry to keep doing this to you guys!!

hayleylea

06-02-2007, 07:02

Hey Fi, :yes: I think we are staying put (for now anyway). That job offer is over - there are always ones that come up but at this point in time we are staying where we are. Cooper was exahusted after his swim - i must admit i got tired too! Goodluck with VBAC and you better get your bags packed! You just never know when this boy will come....Mind you if its anything like mine he will wait till 2 weeks after his due date! :banghead: lol How did you go with Claire last night? I cant believe she fell asleep on the lounge room floor..she must have been tired god love her. Thats great about your playgroup. Ill be heading to ours on wedensday for the first time in ages too. Last year it was a bit hard because it was always on when it was Coopers nap time so we didnt get to go all that much.

Trents gone out working on our house again today and should be home around lunch. Im thinking about going out and suprising him once Mr wakes up to see how he is going...in saying that I better go get myself ready!

:wave:

ETA: Just got Cooper up and he has a sore eye just like me! Poor little guy. Its all red and its got a little sty like mine! Lucky i have some stuff for it (joys of MIL working at a hospital lol) He is a happy chap though so its not bothering him too much.

cath

06-02-2007, 09:11

Hello there,
Tan you're right about being left to cry for an hour and a half not being "controlled crying" -that's just crying. Good luck with the plane flight for the wedding. I hope Will (and you) goes well at Child Care today -he might love it -different toys, other kids to chase after. What time is he going? It will be a nice break for you. I really look forward to Thursday's when Paddy goes to my Mum's - it is really nice just to have the house to yourself.

Hayley hope you and Cooper and okay with your eyes. I've got to get Paddy back to the pool too - they love it don't they.

Fi definitely get onto those bags woman!! How funny about Claire falling asleep on the floor. How was your night?

We've had Paddy up since 6 which is very unusual for him (after being up with him from 1:45-2:30 and him crying out again at 3:30 but going back to sleep). Maybe it's teeth. He is due for some more. He still only has 8 (the front 4 top and bottom). Anyway now he is sitting there staring at the tv which he never does so I think he is ready for bed -better go. Chat soon.

Cath

Wivi

06-02-2007, 10:22

Hi there!

Well - it's just me at the moment. We took Will to daycare at 9am this morning. I felt all sad when I was packing his bag and labelling his things. Of course when we got there he spied a superman puzzle and off he went. I managed to get a kiss off him but seriously - he couldn't give a toss about being somewhere different. Sometimes I think it would be nice if Will showed some kind of attachment to me - but then at least this way things are easier in terms of getting other people to look after him.

Fi - your girl is just amazing. I can't believe she stayed awake nearly all day! She has quite the stamina that one. I can't imagine what sort of a night you had last night.

Oh Hayles - poor Cooper and you with your eyes! I hope they get better soon.

Cath - it must be something in the air, Will has been crying a bit in the night as well - he settles himself mostly but I assume it is those top molars as they are not quite through yet. I am just praying that it will all be over by the time we go to Broken Hill.

Has anyone used Brauer's calm? I noticed on a thread that some people suggested it helps with travel and keeping the little one settled.

Lou - I know you are working but I was just wondering how you were going with Maddi and sleep? Have you found a bed buddy for her yet?

Gotta go - not long before I have to leave to pick Will up.

:wave:

hayleylea

06-02-2007, 10:55

Oh Tan that is so great the Will went and played with a puzzle when he got there. I wish Cooper was like that sometimes. He is quite shy when he first meets people - I think there would be a billion tears if i left him somewhere (other then my mums and sisters where he couldnt give a toss if i was there or not lol) Let us know how he went. Im sure he just loved it. Havent tried that calming stuff Tan, but it sounds like it would be worth a shot. What time does your plane leave? is there anyway of Keeping Will awake so he will sleep or is it way off his sleep time?

Our eyes are OK. Coopers isnt as bad as mine - its good having the cream here so i can catch it before it gets too bad. Weve just got back from going to see Trent. He is doing the roof on our house. Its lookin good so far, bloody hard work though. He is finishing off soon because its way too hot. Cooper had a ball running around playing with the dogs (we took them too). We are getting a new house built next door to us - they started work on it today. Noisey buggers. Its going to be a nightmare with Coopers day sleeps - it might be OK though. On our way back home i could see Cooper starting to dose off - which i didnt want because he would wake up as soon as we got here and think that was his sleep for the day. So like you Fi, turned the music up and started singing lol. It worked thank god. Now he is just having a sandwhich and cooling down and then off to bed for him.

Hope all them teething kiddies teeth come through nice and fast!!

tata for now...

cath

06-02-2007, 11:00

Good to hear there were no tears (on Will's side anyway) with the child care. He will probably be more upset when you pick him up -they often turn on the tears when their parents return.

Paddy managed a big 20 minutes for his nap and I think that will be it for the day. Damn it!! I was hoping I could get some sleep myself - managed all of 4 and a half hours broken into 3 lots last night after being disrupted by a snoring husband and crying baby and finding it hard to fall back asleep. I think we will both be having an early night tonight.

We are off to meet my friend and her little boy in a park soon so hopefully that will wear Paddy out a bit.

Haven't used the Brauer's calm Tan -might be worth a go. Chat soon.

Cath

Wivi

06-02-2007, 11:42

I'm back. No waterworks at all I am happy to report. He did run up to me when I got there and looked like he was trying to tell me something but he had a great morning. They took photos of the kids so I could see what they had been doing. Will even painted his first picture!

He nodded off just before we got home but I woke him up because I needed to wash his feet and take his shirt off. He didn't care at all - straight back to sleep. One tired little boy!

I feel really happy about it now. He had such a great time and waved goodbye to everyone when we left. Can't wait til next Tuesday now!

hayleylea

06-02-2007, 11:48

Thats GREAT news Tan!!! What a good little boy!

MrsMiggins

06-02-2007, 13:15

I'm just chatting to Tan & Hayles on msn, so I won't post back to you guys!! Save everyone the reading!! :D

My night was awful last night!!

Claire was stirring & crying for ages, but not actually waking up, so I was battling with wether to go in & resettle her or just leave her be. In the end I figured I'd be better off trying to resettle her, as otherwise it could go on all night & I'd literally get no sleep at all. Plus I figured as she'd missed dinner & her bottle, she'd probably be needing something, so I'd give her a bottle & maybe she'd settle down & sleep for the night.

So at about 11.30 I went in there, gave her a bottle & everything was fine. But she was just lying in my arms awake, sucking her thumb. She wouldn't actually go to sleep. She was quite happy, but I was really tired, so I wanted her to sleep! I tried putting her in her cot a couple of times, but she still just lay there awake & every so often would stand up & "chat" to me.

In the end, at about 1.45 I gave up & went & woke Dave up for him to have a go. I figured maybe a change of staff would help her!!

He sat in her room with her for a while, then I heard him take her out into the lounge room. That was about 2.15.

Next thing I knew, it was 5am, and Dave was in bed. When I asked him this morning what time she went to sleep, he said it was around 4.

Little bugger woke up at 7!! I couldn't believe it! Then she had trouble going back to sleep. I could tell she was plenty tired, but she just wouldn't sleep. So I caved & took her for a drive & she finally went to sleep at about midday. This is costing me a fortune in petrol!!!

Well, I'm going to go try & start packing my bags for the hospital (told you I was going to do it!!) and then hopefully I can have a lie down for a bit!

bingo

06-02-2007, 20:46

Oh Fi you poor thing, Claire must be going through some sort of phase. Its like their minds go into overdrive an they don't know how to turn them off at night so sleep.
Hayley great to hear the eyes are getting better. I've never had conjunctivitis, and don't particularly want it but know its probably one of those inevitable things with Maddi at creche.
Tan - how lucky are you to have Will adapt to creche so well. I have never heard of a kid going in that easy peasy. I also checked out your website and the photos from the farm are awesome! And you and DH look pretty relaxed too.
Our bedtime routine is working magic. I am in shock as to how much easier it has been compared to what I expected. What I expected was it to take weeks on end. Last night was the first night she slept all the way through without waking and needing to be resettled. I heard her scuffling around and searching for her dummy and I braced myself ready for patting her on the back, but no she stuck the dummy in and back to sleep on her own :smiliedance: . So stage 1 is succesful, Maddi is sleeping in her cot in our room. As for trying to attach her to her bedtime buddy, well I never got around to making the pillows. She had a really soft piglet doll so I've been getting her to pat that while she has her bottle and then it comes into the cot. Last night I laid her down and piglet next to her and we patted piglet to sleep together. :laughing: So fingers crossed we have a winner.
I went to the DR today to get my ears, ankle and I had a sore groin. My ankle is fine, just ligament strain. My ears are infected and my groin injury is a hernia! A hernia I tell you! WTH? Has anyone had one of these?

Wivi

06-02-2007, 20:54

Hey Lou,

Haven't had a hernia but I have had heaps of clients with them and they are mostly caused by lifting heavy things. I would think a 15 month old would be a good example. Basically it is where there is a tear in the abdominal lining allowing either and organ or muscle to pop through a bit causing a lump (and discomfort). They are very common and either surgically repaired or left alone.

:smiliedance: for Maddi and the sleep. Oh and Congrats to you too. That nurse was fantastic hey - right on the ball. What a great service. You must feel fantastic today and it sounds as though you have found Maddi a bed buddy too. It's so funny how these things work isn't it? I know that Will scuffles around in the night for his dummy and his teddy as well, I've seen him do it!

Anyway -I am off to bed for the night.

Hope everyone has a great night's sleep tonight.

hayleylea

07-02-2007, 07:04

:smiliedance: Lou! Thats fantastic about Maddi sleeping so well. Not so great about your hernia though - my brother has had a pretty bad one...but i dont know much about it. I know its common for babies to get hernias - im actually thinking Cooper might have one his belly button looks like its poking out way more then usual. My nephew had one and it looked pretty similar. Im going to make an appointment with the clinic this week sometime...(or whenever i can get it there is usually a wait.) In kids though they usually correct themselves.

Cooper is still going to sleep well...he did wake up once last night at 11 oclock absolutley screaming, so much to the fact that I ran in there and picked him up and gave him a cuddle. It was only for 5 minutes and then back to bed he went and he is still there now. Not sure what was wrong with him...could have been a belly ache because he ate like a horse last night, and tried mongolian lamb for the first time which might have upset his stomach a little (he loved it!).

Anyway i better start getting ready for the day...got a bit to to today!

MrsMiggins

07-02-2007, 12:59

Oh wow Lou! I actually thought only males could get hernias! Shows you how much I know!! :laughing: I'm glad your ankle's not broken. You need to rest up!

I was just about to post a moment ago and we had a power outage! All the power in our house just went out. It came back on fairly quickly, although now I can smell smoke and I can hear sirens, so I wonder if it has anything to do with it?

That is so great Lou, about Maddi's sleeping!! I am so excited for you!! It really sounds as though you are well on your way, and you sound much more relaxed & happy.

Claire was OK yesterday, although she slept right through from 12-4 and at 4 I decided I'd better go in there. I wanted to check on her, but also I was worried if she slept all afternoon, we'd have trouble with night time. When I went in there though she was awake, lying in her cot, quietly playing with her teddies! When bedtime came, she actually went down fairly easily and stayed asleep all night - I didn't even hear her stir! So great!! And she fell asleep this morning on the way home from the library, so it looks like we're back on track - phew!

Hayley, I hope Cooper's OK! Maybe the mongolian lamb did play up a bit on him! Good to hear he went back to sleep ok though. That's great!!

I only have 3.5 weeks til my due date!! :eek: I managed to get my bag almost all organised yesterday. I only have a few things left to go in that need to go in at the last minute (stuff I need to use before I go). Oh, I also have to pack a baby bag but that'll only take a few minutes.

Hope you're all having a lovely day! :D

hayleylea

07-02-2007, 13:51

Hey Fi, Thats GREAT about Claire sleeping and being back on track! Lets hope it stays that way!! :fingerscrossed: Pleased to hear it! I cant believe your going to have a baby in 3.5 weeks - its gone so fast. Its sooo exciting!

Cooper is OK although he has his cranky pants on!!! We went to play group and left early because he was in a foul mood!! He didnt want to play with anyone and only be with me. He was OK if he was outside but it was way too hot and he wouldnt keep his hat on and I forgot my sun cream so i took him back inside and he just wasnt a happy camper. A lady was there with 3 week old twins (who were SOOOOOOOOOOO tiny i have never seen such little babies!!!) Cooper thought they were dolls and wanted them right or wrong! I found a toy baby and gave it to him and he was giving it the biggest cuddles but then threw it because he wanted to the 2 real babies! lol. He was rubbing his eyes and just in a really cranky mood so I packed up and came home, gave him lunch put him in bed and i didnt hear from him for 2 hours. He has woke up some what happier this afternoon although still isnt himself. He is going through a really clingy stage at the moment where he only really wants me or Trent. Im trying to get out and about to play group and stuff like that to try and get him more "socialised" but it doesnt seem to be helping at the moment...maybe its just a stage. He has always been shy, he is fine with his cousins and people he knows. Ugh! im having a bad day today, I think its my fault that Cooper isnt adjusting well to playing with strangers etc etc - just being silly but you know when you just have one of those days when nothing seems to go right?! Well thats just the day im having. My stupid dog has been naughty, i smashed a plate while washing up, dropped the washing liquid and spilt it all over the floor - you get the drift? :laughing:

Now i have to go down the street and pick up the dogs chicken carcass' for the fortnight - which i dont feel like doing..and Cooper is hitting me with his toys because he is bored.

Sorry for the negative post guys...i promise not to write till im in a better mood...hopefully sooner then later!

MrsMiggins

07-02-2007, 14:30

Oh dear Hayley!! What a day you're having!!!

As promised, here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/fiona_t/FionaClaireAnna300120071a.jpg) is a pic of Anna, Claire & myself at our recent meeting! (I have a really dopey look on my face, but never mind!!)

While I'm at it, you can see another one of my big fat belly (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/fiona_t/8mBelly36weeks040220074edit.jpg), and a cute one of Claire bear (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/fiona_t/Claire23Jan0720rercropped.jpg)!

hayleylea

07-02-2007, 15:08

Them photos are great! you girls both look GREAT!!!!! And Claire is as cute as always!!! Im off again. My day hasnt improved yet...cant wait to go to sleep and start out fresh tommorrow lol...

Tan..i took your advice i went and had myself a milo, I made Cooper a Mini milo too--- water, milk and a dash of milo - he thought it was wonderfull - kept him quiet for 5 minutes anyway lol

HERE'S (http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e53/hayleylea/crankypantsandmummy.jpg) a pic of my cranky pants and me today - self portrait. After seeing pics of Anna and Fi i thought its good to post a photo of Cooper and I. I dont feature in many on my website cause im always the one behind the camera. (bare in mind im having a bad day hence the bags under my eyes HAHA) Oh and of course my cranky pants didnt want to smile!

ETA: Fi i forgot to say Claires hair is really coming along now! Its a pretty colour!

Wivi

07-02-2007, 18:15

What a cute photo of Claire! She really is starting to get some hair now. She looks so cheeky and fun.

As for your belly Fi - it's not that big considering how close bub is to being here! It's a great photo of the 3 of you as well - did you ask a stranger to snap it for you?

Now Hayley - I already have you a big talking to on MSN about how it's not your fault that Cooper is a bit shy. Better shy than a show off I think! Well - you know those really precocious kids? They all have their shockers. As mummies we always think it is our fault but seriously everyone in the world has a bad day here and there and it isn't anyone's fault.

So glad you had a better night last night Fi. You need all the precious sleep you can get right now.

Anyway - I should go and wash up before I settle in to watch McLeod's daughters - there'll be no MSN'ing for me tonight!

cath

07-02-2007, 20:55

Hello,
Fi that photo of yourself,Claire and Anna is great (I love Claire's funky top in that photo). Well done getting the bag packed. Are you using all new stuff for the baby or is there some stuff you were able to reuse from Claire? Most of the stuff we had from Paddy was quite boyish but I'm hoping there will be a few things we can use if it is a girl. Our budget could really do with baby 2 being a boy -no need to go shopping if it is a boy.

Hayley hope you and Cooper have a better day tomorrow. Nice photo of you and Cooper - he still looks cute even if he is cranky.

Tan was Will alright after coming home from child care? Sounds like it will work out really well for you.

Lou how unreal about Maddi sleeping in her cot. What a good girl. Do you think the fact that you are in the same room has made that huge difference? She must like the sound of your breathing as reassurance or something. Poor thing with your hernia -nasty.

I've just finished putting in my Coles-On-Line order to be delivered on Friday morning. This is the third time I've done it and I'm loving it. I now do this big on-line shop every fortnight when we get paid and I am no longer heaving tins of tomatoes and nappies etc. in and out of a trolley and in and out of a car. I love having it arrive at the door (so worth the $7.95 delivery fee). It is a bit annoying that the items you can select from can be a bit limited (they don't have the certain brand of curry paste I buy when I know it is sitting on the shelf up there) but I am happy to go and still do small shops that can fit in the pram during the week (have to buy milk and bread every few days anyway).

We went to the Melbourne Botanical Gardens today with some of the people from Mother's Group which was great. Paddy had a great time chasing the birds (he always chases the birds - reminds me of our dogs). He took a few more steps than normal today (probably got up to 10 or so). He is still crawling more than he is walking. Actually he is walking alot but it is behind a push along walker (actually he is almost running with it). He whizzes around the house so fast with this thing. I think it is holding him back from walking because he will take a few steps then he spots the walker and you can see his mind thinking "if I go and get that thing I can go much faster" and he crawls over and gets it and whizzes off. Oh well he will be walking all the time soon enough. His climbing has reached a new level. I found him on the dining room table today - not good!! Mum told me she found my brother on top of the piano when he was about Paddy's age. We happen to have a piano so now I'm waiting for that one.

Anyway time to go and lie on the couch I think. Hope everyone is well and having a good night.

Cath

hayleylea

07-02-2007, 21:39

Cath thats great that Paddy is finding his feet! He will be walking full time before you know it.

Anyway i should hit the sack...Goodnight all.

Wivi

08-02-2007, 06:54

Oh Cath! LOL at Paddy climbing on the table! Will is not a climber at all - he can manage to get onto a chair and that's it. I think I told you all before that he is a small space kid. Its like "I wonder if I can fit in there?" Last week he hopped into our suitcase before we went to Mum's! Don't worry - he did get out before we left to go there.

Will was fine after daycare. He had a big 3 hour sleep yesterday though so maybe it wore him out a bit. We think that maybe he didn't worry at all because ever since he was a newborn he has gone to creche at church. It's not as long as daycare but I guess it is the same principle.

At the moment I am just wishing Will would learn to talk. He seems to be getting a bit frustrated that we are not understanding what he wants etc. I feel a bit helpless sometimes. It's like I go through a checklist of what it might be and every now and then I hit the jackpot. A bit like playing Bingo actually!

We are off to swimming lessons again today - that should make him tired!

hayleylea

08-02-2007, 07:04

Any of you girls had an ear infection? Im thinking I might have one - ive never had one before but ever since i went swimming the other day i havent been able to hear out of my right ear that well and today its a bit sore and blocked!? Does this sound like an ear ifection..if so what do i do? I suppose the only cure is going to the doc and getting something for it?

Tan, I wish Cooper would talk too. He is also getting very frustrated!! Cute new avatar pic of Will :)

bingo

08-02-2007, 07:38

Hayley - I have an ear infection! I found out when I went to the DR and he's given me eardrops. My ear was really itchy and sore and felt like it was blocked. Its either going to be an ear infection or a wax blockage. I'd get it looked at anyways.
Well I can't stay on here long. We're off to Melbourne to see the ENT specialist for Maddi. And I havent packed! Oh no! OK I better get a move on. Hope your ear is OK Hayley!

hayleylea

08-02-2007, 08:30

Lou I forgot to ask - does Maddi still go to the potty??!

I was just talking to Jobaby and she has Tahlia going to the potty - i wouldnt have even thought to try so early! :o

My ear feels a little better, ill give it a few more hours and if its still sore ill ring the doc.

Goodluck today Lou.

Wivi

08-02-2007, 09:17

Hayles - I am the queen of ear infections, I've had heaps.

Does it feel like it needs to "pop" like when you go up a hill in the car? Or does it feel like pressure? If the answer is yes to either of those than I would say it is an ear infection. The other thing is can you feel a little lump in front of your ear if you run your finger along your cheekbone towards your ear? Is it sore into your neck a little bit? Then yes, yes, yes. So often after swimming too.

Lou - I hope your appt with the ENT goes well today, maybe you will finally get some answers.

I bought Will a potty last week. He doesn't get it though, thinks it is a toy. We just put him on there before his bath/shower with a toy/book and talk to him about going to the toilet. Nothing yet. I have no method though, might go and look up some info.

Chat more later guys. Bye!

hayleylea

08-02-2007, 10:37

Well Cooper has his cranky pants on once again today! Shock to the system after having such a good boy for a few weeks now :laughing: He is going through such an insecure stage...my sister came over (who he usually loves!) and he just clung to me the whole time and cried when she walked in the door! What am I to do?! Im hoping its just a stage. :fingerscrossed:

Ive put him to bed - he seemed really tired and he was upset so i gave him ted and put him in bed. I cant hear him so he must be either asleep or sitting there pondering how to make mummy mad today :laughing: Im at a dead end. I probably dont take him enough places for him to interact with other kids/people - im looking into more activities and places i can take him so ill see how I go.

My ear is feeling a bit better..still a little blocked but not really hurting.

MrsMiggins

08-02-2007, 14:51

Oh! :( Poor Cooper!!

Hayles, I'm glad your ear is feeling better. Hopefully it'll clear up soon! I loved that pic of you & Cooper!

I had a nice day today - Dave was running late for work (went back to sleep after the alarm went off, only for me to wake him up again 15 mins after he was meant to be at work!) and rushed out the door only to stick his head back in & shout "Happy Birthday darling!" :laughing: When he got home he gave me a card from him & one from Claire, which were very cute. He also said that he was going to get me a voucher for a pedicure/wax etc that I've been wanting but his card wasn't working (wonder if I'll get it later... hmmmmm....!)

He was going to take me out to lunch, but had to work later than normal, so we're going out for dinner instead, but it's worked out well because a couple of friends called me at the last minute (right after Dave!) and wanted to take me out to lunch. It was good because Claire went straight to sleep in the car on the way home!

Sorry I can't post more - trying to get a heap done before Claire wakes up!

Wivi

08-02-2007, 16:47

happybirthday Fi! Did you drop any hints about your birthday or did you just spring it on us?

I hope you get your nice meal sometime soon!

hayleylea

08-02-2007, 16:48

OMG i forgot!! happybirthday Fi i hope you had a GREAT DAY!!!!!!!!!!! Have a great dinner! I cant believe i forgot!!

Cooper woke up happy so im pleased about that. He is now eating dinner. He has had his cousins over for the last two hours and they had an absolute ball!!!!! Hopefully wore him out! lol.

I went to give Cooper a bath before he had his dinner because they had blue iceblocks and he has it everywhere and we dont have any hot water! :banghead: Ill get Trent to have a look when he gets home and hopefully he can fix it.

Anyway im off...talk soon

MrsMiggins

08-02-2007, 17:04

I may have mentioned it once or twice (probably in relation to Dave more than likely forgetting it!! :D)

Hayles, what a terrible time to run out of hot water - when your boy has been into the blue ice blocks!! :laughing:

cath

08-02-2007, 17:50

A big happy birthday to Fi. Hope you don't go into labour tonight and get to go out for a nice dinner.

Hayley hope you get some hot water back.

Lou how did the ENT specialist go?

Tan that's hilarious about Will trying to get into the suitcase.

Anyway just a quick one. Got to get this little man ready for bed. Chat soon.

Cath

nkenward

08-02-2007, 20:12

Hi all,

Thanks for the replies regarding the website. Yep I have finally got it up & running - took long enough.

Hayley - I actually designed it myself. I have worked on website design for the family business I worked for, along with a few others. We have space through our internet account, so it doesn't cost anything extra to run.

Fi - Happy Birthday!! Not long to go now for your little arrival. We have had a few babies born around here lately and they have all been earlier - so not sure whats in the water up in Qld!

Cath - That is so funny about the climbing thing. We had a little step ladder in the backyard the other day and we caught Connor at the top rung. And he is climbing the couches and everything else. But he was jumping off the couch onto his little fold out couch - until he actually hurt himself. Not sure how to stop that.

I also have a question for Lou about the potty training. We have started Connor on the potty the last few days - usually trying after his bath and he has a bit of a run around in the nuddie. Does Maddy still use it? How did you go about introducing it? I have the problem at the moment in trying to get Connor to sit on it. I suppose it just takes time.

Hayley - My mum said that is would be best to try now while the weather is still warmer - as we are more likely to let them run around with no nappy - not so much in winter. I think the sooner we try the potty the better! I have to say Connor has tried to let me know on 3 occassions when he needed to go after a bath - but I didn't quite get the drift - and we had accidents on the floor. But he was letting me know he needed a nappy.

Not sure about anyone else - but has anyone's littlies decided to really try your patience. I mean they have developed their own 'I know what I want, and I want it now' type attitude. Connor has been driving me nuts this week. If I don't respond, he gets on the floor and bangs his head on the ground. I have been trying to ignore it to an extend - but he doesn't quite know what I am doing etc. After he finishes his um 'tantrum' I then go and pay him attention. But I assume he is trying to communicate and can't - and I simply can't understand him yet. Sometimes I wish I could just go into my bedroom - shut the door and say nigh nighs....

Anyway enough of that. News on the whole preg thing - it was a :bfn: for last month. Heres to this month being :bfp:

nkenward

08-02-2007, 20:12

Also a quick hello to everyone else - hope all is going well.

hayleylea

08-02-2007, 20:58

Hey Natalie - good to hear from you. Cooper has been testing my patience the last few days - sounds similar to Connor....he wants everything and he wants it there and then and doesnt like getting told no. He gets over it pretty easily though..well most of the time!! sorry to hear about the :bfn: Goodluck for this month! It will happen soon enough...just a matter of time. As for potty training I am going to get Cooper a potty and give it a go. Couldnt hurt.

Fi, hope your dinner went well. Check your hotmail account when you get a chance, i sent you an email.

Well Trent fixed our hotwater so I managed to get my blue boy clean! :laughing: I also managed to slice my finger open with a knife while preparing dinner. There was blood everywhere - its pretty sore but Trent assures me i dont need stitches...although i did argue that at the time! lol

Hope everyone has a good night.

MrsMiggins

09-02-2007, 13:07

I got your ecard yesterday Hayles! Thank you so much! It was lovely & certainly put a smile on my face! :)

Nat, sorry to hear last month was a BFN - here's to a BFP this month!!

Claire has definitely been trying my patience!!! It's been going on for a few months now. If she doesn't get what she wants immediately if not sooner, she flies into a massive tantrum. The difficulty is that sometimes I don't actually understand what it is she wants - or worse - I am just about to get something for her, because I know she wants it before she asks, but for one reason or another I can't do it straight away. Then by the time she asks for it, I say I'll get it in a second, but then she's flown into a tantrum & the thing I was going to get/do for her I can't now, because it's like giving into her tantrum, IYKWIM. Frustrating for both of us!!

The other thing that's really getting on my nerves is that she just will not listen to me. If we're out having lunch or something, she'll wriggle and grizzle to get down, but if I let her down, she just runs off & I end up spending the whole afternoon chasing after her & bringing her back, only to have her run straight off again. It's driving me bonkers!!

We did go out for dinner last night (just to the RSL as always, but it was still nice!) The only thing was that I was all set to have a nice piece of cake (yanno - considering it's my birthday & all!) and the little coffee shop bit where they have all the nice cakes & coffees was closed! It wasn't even 8pm yet!! I couldn't believe it! I was so disappointed!! Oh well, it's not like I need cake right now - believe me!! :laughing:

Where's Anna? I hope you made it back OK & that everything worked out with your cars!

Wivi

09-02-2007, 16:07

Gee it's quiet in here today. I wonder where everyone is?

Will hasn't yet worked out the tanty thing. He thinks about it sometimes but no real ones yet. I am sure they are on their way though!

At the moment he is pretty irritable and I loked inside his mouth and there is this massive hole in his top gum where the fat part of the molar is pushing through. I guess he has reason to be cranky. That Nurofen is back out again tonight! I can't get over how teeth are so disruptive - Hayley must be loving it now that Cooper has all of his!

Yes Fi -will definitely has selective hearing, or he does it 5 minutes after I ask him. I get really tired of people telling me how good he is all the time - I feel like such an incompetent mother because I get frustrated with him and spend a lot of the day biting my tongue so that I don't yell at him!

Nat - Sorry about the :bfn: . :fingerscrossed: for next month.

Lou - let us know how you got on with the ENT.

Gotta go - Will wants his dinner!

hayleylea

09-02-2007, 16:52

Hi guys.....it is quiet in here today isnt it! I have been working on our house all day with Trent, Cooper spent the day at my sisters. He was a good boy for her and had a blast. He went to sleep in the portacot all by himself too so im extra proud of him!! We not long ago got home...I am buggered! We got a fair bit done though so thats good. We knocked down the old varandah and pulled up the old concrete - all in preparation for the new concrete (under the varandah thats getting done on tuesday! YAY). We also oiled our cedar windows and they look fantastic! So im hoping for an early night tonight. Trents on night shift so no doubt he will be feeling buggered by the time 6am comes along!! Looks like Cooper and I are going out for the morning tommorrow so daddy can get some sleep!

OH NO! just read Annas personal message on MSN and it says that she put a scratch in her new car!! :eek: I tried talking to her but she isnt there. Poor thing. Hope its not too bad!

Anyone ever tried them sea shanty things from fish and chip shops? I thinks that what they are called anyway. Well Trent works at simplot (edgells) and yesterday they had a big special for all the employees and he got a whole garbage bag of these for $2 another garbage bag of fish cakes for $2 and a bag of chicko rolls for $2!! (we have separated them in bags of mixed stuff for family and friends) For that price how could you not get them! They are a great FAST meal for Cooper thats for sure - we tried the sea shantys out tonight and he loved them!!! They had heaps of vegies in them too which is good because Cooper doesnt like to eat vegies alot of the time so disguised in food is a good thing here lol.

Fi, glad you had a good night out and that enjoyed my ecard. I thought it was pretty cute!

OH guess what guys! When Trent and I were taking our rubbish to the tip today at the front gate of the tip was a perfectly good kids mower!!!!!! of course i didnt leave it there - i left it out at the house so he has something to play with out there! honestly the things people throw away!

Anyway i better go see what this boys up too. He is in his room in his huggies car and being very quiet which can only mean one thing - trouble :laughing:

Talk soon guys.

Moorish

09-02-2007, 20:54

Hi girls!

I'm here! I've just caught up with all that I missed and just as I thought, you girls have talked non-stop!
Well this post should keep you all quiet for a while!

Shane and I got home at midnight last Saturday and I've been taking the week to catch up on washing and trying to get some rest. I'm ultra tired at the moment but sort of running on reserve if you know what I mean. Very very soon I feel that I will burn out if I don't get a decent massage and some quality sleep (been very light sleep and I've been waking a bit).

Well, Tan gave me the run down the other day to save me reading up on what you've been up to but I just couldn't help myself, I was just too curious! (Call me George!) My my! How our bubs have grown!

Fi - again, it was just so fantastic to meet you and Claire! I thought she was really well behaved, nothing that I wouldn't see from any other kid her age over lunch time in that heat! Had a great time shopping, gas-bagging but OH did you see how black my eyes are in that photo you posted?! It shows how much sleep I DIDN'T get those few days I was in QLD! As for the shampoo thing, I use mild ones for the girls - Palmolive, Sunsilk etc and for Immy I use J&J shampoo and use a little of the girls conditioner after as her long hair gets knotty really easily. I still can't get over how pretty that child of yours is and that hair is just stunning! Oh and by the way, I'm sending Shane up for a boys weekend (with Dave) to teach him some stuff about birthdays, anniversaries and buying flowers for absolutely NO occassion at all! LOL! And I can't believe I didn't get back on bubhub in time to wish you a HAPPY BIRTHDAY! I really hope the lunch with your friends and dinner made up for the lack of "Dave".

Hayles - I'm with whoever said "2 weeks and you'll be out for a girls night!" I don't think you've learnt your lesson at all and had a good old chuckle at your "hang-over" posts! As for the Avon teddy, have you tried eBay? Otherwise, if you know someone who does Avon ask them to send you one of their clearance catalogues, they usually have old stock there that you can't order anymore. I think I was the one who covered the pillow issue before and the info I got was from the age of 2 or when they go into a big bed. Even when my girls went into a bed I bought them both a "junior" pillow - I think it's made by tontine or something - it's normal size but nice and flat for little ones.
ETA: Everyone knows that Hayles has been harping on and on about Coopers teddy, WELL. . . . I was reading her last post about ted and I thought I'd have a browse and guess who found one on eBay?! I had a feeling this bear would be it so I messaged Hayles to ask for a discription and sent her the link -well she just about jumped through the computer to hug me! LOL! It was a buy it now so I clicked refresh and sure enough it was sold! Ya dag Hayles!

Lou - I'm just so thrilled to hear that Maddi is progressing with the whole sleep thing! How amazing that anxiety was the issue picked up and what wonderful advice you've been given! HUGE claps for Maddi sleeping through the last few nights, and good on you for trudging on, even with a damaged ankle, you poor darling! As for your post on portion sizes, my DH absolutely hates my new cooking plan (for the last couple of years!) When I changed our eating habits and he started complaining there was less food, I'd just quietly say "portion control dear" and resume eating! LOL! Now in our household it's funny when I serve up dinner - we're like Goldilocks and the 3 bears - there's a pappa sized plate, a mumma-sized plate and lots of little baby sized plates! Although now being pregnant my portions have become even smaller and mine are about the same size as the kids!
Oh and by the way, what the heck is "candling your ears?" I'm all curious! Oh and I have a great "Shane night time story" for you too! At our first house when we just had Chelsea, Shane bolted out of bed at about 4am and ran like a mad man up and down the hall! He scared the living daylights out of me but I wet myself laughing when he SWORE black and blue he heard a burglar running through the house! (I didn't hear a thing!) On the morning news we discovered that there had been an earthquake about 100km north and it was felt for MILES! And that was what Shane heard! Our walls shook even! OMG I still give him rip for it!

pto. . .ctu. . . (post too long!)

Moorish

09-02-2007, 20:56

ctu. . .

Jobaby - good to see you back hun! You must be a busy girl with another on the way! I have no advice on how to keep Tahlia little for longer, other than as soon as baby #2 arrives - Tahlia will suddenly seem so much older to you so treasure every moment you have while she's still little!

Carly - welcome! You also must be very busy with 2 little girls so close in age! I have 19 months between my first two and I just love it though! They play so well together most times and keep each other amused. I had to have a giggle about Maddy and her little "stealing" habits! You're not the only mother that's had to deal with that! Once we left an accessories store and Nicola had also reached out and grabbed some fake nails and was just holding them in her pram! I noticed when I got a few shops away and promptly took them back. The girl didn't so much as say thanks (even though it was my daughter who nicked them!) and it didn't seem as if she cared at all!

Cath - I'm so sorry to hear about Paddy's lack of sleep with his naps! He might just be one of those kids who grows out of naps earlier - how's he sleeping at night? I hear you with the fussy eating thing! This is the time to start getting creative with how you disguise the veggies! You can grate heaps of stuff to add to a bolognaise, lasagne or a stirfry, or what about making up some patties or fingers with mashed potato, tuna/chicken, grated/frozen veggies, some cheese and an egg? Roll them in an egg wash and crumb them then cook them on the stove? Otherwise rissoles (or hamburgers) are another great way to hide stuff! Good luck and let us know how you go!
I was also thinking about your friend who has the 4 kids and offered to take Paddy while you rest. I'm like that too, I'm always taking a friend's child or two if they need to get some waxing, run an errand, go to an appointment etc. People think I'm crazy, but seriously, what's another kid? It's really nothing when you have this many! Plus it actually gives me a break because it keeps my kids occupied for a while! Also, don't laugh, but fostering has ALWAYS been on the cards for me too. Heaven only knows what I'm going to do with myself after my last baby grows up! I'm already thinking about wanting another baby before my 4th is even born! I really could just have babies forever if I could afford it (oh and if I could either get over my fear of epidurals, or each labour was EXACTLY like Nicola's LOL!)

Nat - I simply cannot believe how blonde Connor is now! I still remember the day we met in Melbourne and I had a cuddle of him and he was such a tiny little bundle with dark, dark hair! How he's all grown up and looks like a little surfer guy with his sunny blonde mop! Hey good luck this month with TTC#2 and I'll have my fingers crossed for a :bfp: for you! Hey I must ask you about camping. We've finally got all our camping gear off layby and thinking of going away late Feb or over Easter. How do you go with Connor? What gear do you take? What sort of places do you camp at? How do you cook? WHAT do you cook?! Oh I'm really curious I hope you don't mind! And do you have msn because I think you're about the only one I don't have added! If you do, add me if you like as I'd just love to suss out your camping tips!

Katelyn's mum - I read your post asking if anyone had been away from their kids before. Well, the most it's ever been for me is a few nights, and that's when one of them has gone to my grandmothers place so I'm still within driving distance. But I just came back from 9 days away from my entire family! I went to QLD for 6 days by myself to help a friend with her wedding planning. DH took care of the kids (yes, he's more than capable!) and then he met up with me in Melbourne where we picked up our new car, stayed 2 nights then came home on a day sail on the Spirit of Tasmania. The kids went all over the place to relatives for 3 nights so were none the wiser. I found that by day 2 I was a blubbering mess and if you read on in my next post (perhaps I'll write that over the weekend) I'll let you know why! In all, I'd still suggest you go to the conference. Do it for yourself, you'll enjoy the break but I guarantee you'll still miss your baby. You might not get the chance to do it again for a while and you're only a place trip away from home. Let us know what you decide!

Tan - I spoke with you a bit today, but like I said, you neglected to tell me the other day that Will was going into care! What a clever little boy he's turned into! Sounds like he's fitted in there just fine and there's nothing to worry about at all! Feel blessed that you have a child that's so accepting to change and new experiences - that will go a long way in his life! I hope by having Will in care you're able to get more work done - I'm sure you will with less distractions! I absolutely adore your new pics of Will! You all look so relaxed and I just can't get over how fair Will has become! He's looking very sun-bleached on top and with the wavy hair - how adorable is he!

Well girls, it's been a record post I'm sure and I haven't caught you all up on me yet but I'm so tired so I'll do that over the weekend. Oh and by the way, Hayles is right, I've damaged my new car already! *SOB!* I was driving through a public car park to pay and I literally had less than an INCH either side and I've scraped a tiny bit on the side mirror and a really thin but deep line over the ridge of the body work that goes over the tyre. I pulled over when I got out of the car park and swore at myself and cried. A nice lady stopped and asked if I was ok and told me that someone had just ran into her car today, we agreed that "that's life" and I was ok after that. I was still so upset with myself though but Shane took the car in to get a quote and THANKFULLY it only needs airbrushing and will cost only $60. WOW! What a horrible way to learn how large my new car really is. There's NO WAY I'll be going to that car park again but I haven't a snowball's-chance-in-hell of reverse parking it on a meter anywhere either! So goodness only knows where I'm going to park from now on!
Ok, I REALLY must go to bed. I hope you all have a wonderful weekend and I can sleep easy knowing that I've replied to everyone (I hope I haven't missed anyone!) HEY! Where's ANGE lately?! HEY GIRL! Where are you!

So glad to be back! I've missed you all so very much!
Love Anna
xoxo

hayleylea

09-02-2007, 21:19

Anna i told you I wouldnt post until you did - and i kept my promise! Girls Anna is right i could have jumped through the computer to hug Anna for finding me another Ted. Couldnt have been better timing either because Ted has a bit of a "rattle" this arvo. I think Cooper must have dropped him on the tiles..his tail doesnt play the music as good as it should either. Cooper was all stressed out because Ted was rattling lol...he came running over to me with Ted and threw him at me as if to say "mummy fix Ted" So now Anna has found me a spare ted i guess i can stop whining over him! :laughing: Thanks again Anna your a ledgend!!

Ive been teaching Cooper with Flash cards the last few days and he is getting very good at it. I lay out a few cards with pictures and tell him to give mummy whatever one i want him to and he gets it for me. He gets sooooooo excited. Its very cute. And his new word of the week is more...he wants more of everything lol. His new skill for the week (which im ultra happy about) is before nap time and bed time i tell him to pack his toys away and he puts them all in his toy box....and then he gets up and pulls them all out lol. Im happy though that he puts them away atleast he understands its time to clean up lol

ive attempted to go to bed once tonight but i have the sorest back!! must have been all that hard work i did today out at the house!! Ive just taken my drugs (nurofen plus lol) so hopefull they will kick in soon so i can get some rest. I hate sore backs!!!!

Ive spoken to Ange on MSN a bit...i must say i almost jumped through the computer screen and gave her a hug too because she got Ted some dolls outfits (like the one i got for him the other week) - sorry guys i mentioned ted again :laughing: But yeah that was heaps nice of her. She is doing good....ill tell her to get her butt on here sometime soon.

Anyway my eyes are getting sleepy and back is feeling a little better so i might try and get some shut eye.

Goodnight all:sleeping:

Moorish

09-02-2007, 21:31

Oh I'm really about to go to bed!
Promise!

Just had to say:
LOOK AT WHAT MY BABY CAN DO!!

Immy's surprise! (http://s121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/?action=view&current=ImmyDollwalking.flv)

Immy's surprise #2! (http://s121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/?action=view&current=Immywalking6.flv)

MrsMiggins

09-02-2007, 22:20

OMG Anna!! I can't believe you actually went back & read all the posts!! That must've taken you a week!! Those pics are awesome BTW (oh, I see now they're videos, but I can't actually get them to play on my cave-man computer) Good girl Immy!!!! And I'm jealous the damage on your car is only costing $60 to repair - the quote for the panel damage I've done to my car this PG is $697!! Yep, I've had a couple of rippas!

Hayley, I'm so glad Anna found you another Ted!! Cooper will be so pleased! And how great Ange found you another outfit!

(Yeah, where are you Ange?! :confused:)

Hayley, I've been meaning to go to this recyling market thing they have at our tip. It's just a couple of minutes down the road from us & it must be hugely popular because whenever I've driven past when it's been on, there's been a million cars there! One day recently as I was driving past, I even saw a lady heading in who I used to get the train to work with when I was working in the city, and I know she lives a good 45 mins away! So it must be worth the trip! It's on tomorrow, so if I can get my act together, I may just go have a peek & see what they've got. You've inspired me!

OK, I have to tell you all something funny! :D

My 5 yo twin nephews are up from Canberra for a few days (I'm pretty sure I mentioned before) and mum brought them around for a swim in our pool this afternoon. WELL!! I can honestly say that I have not seen my mum so stressed out & cranky since we were all kids!!! :laughing: Apparently they are really, really naughty & have been driving my poor parents up the wall! Mum said to me that Claire is an absolute angel compared to them!! lol So to give my poor mum a break, I sent them on a wild goose chase down the back yard (we're on acreage remember, so it took them a fair while!) I told them that there was something really interesting down there & that if they looked around for long enough they'd find it. They'd run down there and spend a few seconds glancing about, then run back. I'd just keep sending them back down, telling them they obviously hadn't looked for long enough. Then after a while they got bored with that, so I told them I'd time them to run around the big shed & back. Each time they got back I'd tell them that Claire did it in less time than that the other day, so off they'd go again! After quite a while of this, mum finally packed them up in the car & I got an sms from her a little while ago thanking me, as the pair of them fell straight to sleep after dinner!!! lol

hayleylea

10-02-2007, 07:31

:yelclap: :smiliedance: YAY Immy!! She looks so cute in them videos Anna. I love when they first start walking!! Shes doing well for someone thats just started walking carrying her big dolly around lol! clever little girl!

Fi, :laughing: well done wearing out your nephews for your poor mum and dad! Whats the bet she is on your door step againt today! :laughing:

Anyway better go get some breakkie. Have a nice weekend everyone!

Moorish

10-02-2007, 07:52

Each time they got back I'd tell them that Claire did it in less time than that the other day, so off they'd go again!

LMAO!
OMG THAT'S CLASSIC!

The last thing any boy wants to hear is that a girl can do it faster! LOL LOL LOL!!!!

Wivi

10-02-2007, 10:48

Anna you are incredible writing us all individual messages after being away from BH for so long. That's impressive!

:yelclap: for Immy walking! And isn't she just powering along now!

Well done on finding Hayley a 2nd Ted too, just in time by the sounds of it.

Fi - you are one clever chicky running those boys ragged. You are going to be fine with a son! You already know all the tricks.

My excitement of the day is that Will didn't wake up til nearly 8 this morning! That is unheard of in our house! Went to bed at 7 last night and went til 8. I know some of your bubbas do that often but Will has never, ever done that. The latest is pretty much 7:30 I think.

DH has gone off today to finally go to the seafood BBQ class I bought him for father's day. I am looking forward to some yummy seafood one night soon!

I have been such a domestic goddess this morning. I have vacuumed everything, mopped and polished our timber furniture. Will likes to "help" when I clean and finds it quite amusing so that was all ok. He watched the Wiggles when I did his room and the bathroom though - too much trouble he can get into in there!

Oh Hayles, Cooper and Will always seem to start new habits at the same time. I told Troy last night that I have noticed that Will is starting to put his toys away. I found that very exciting as well!

Oh man - car scratches. They always happen when you get a new car. My Mum picked up their brand new car a few years ago and went down the street to get some shopping and right after she parked it the idiot in front of her reversed into her brand new car! She didn't even make it home!

Hm - still wondering how Lou and Maddi got on with the ENT. Has anyone heard?

MrsMiggins

10-02-2007, 11:26

:no: Haven't heard anything yet either Tan.

That is so good Will helps you out with the housework! Claire is great at helping unpack the groceries (although she is a little too quick at it! I'm a member of the AC Neilsen Homescan Panel, where I have to scan all the groceries I buy and so it takes a little longer and Claire meanwhile, is pulling each item out, handing it to me and saying "Ta?" :laughing:) She's also started to be a big help when I'm hanging up washing. I don't have to bend down to pick the clothes up out of the basket now!! Claire will happily stand there & pass each item up to me - so much easier!

Hey Tan - make sure you let us know what Troy cooks for you tonight! I bet he gets all inspired & whips up something delicious! Oooh! I'm getting hungry just thinking about it!!

I went down to the recycle market this morning and OMG! Hayley, you'd have had an absolute field day!! It is huge & they have everything! Ive sent Dave a text message telling him to hurry home from work this afternoon as I found something down there I want to have a 2nd look at & that it was only $3, but too big for me to get on my own. He is going to be freaking out when he reads that!! :laughing:

It's actually a Hills slippery dip. It's an older one with metal steps & it has a little bit of rust on it, but for $3 it's in bloody good nick, I think (couldn't really get a good look at it, as I was carrying Claire in the sling and it was outside in the sun & it was very hot). I think if it had a bit of a clean-up, it'd be OK for the money. Even if you didn't end up using it, and you did your 3 bucks, you can't really go wrong, can you? I only hope it's still there by the time we get down there. And I hope I can convince Dave to go have a look! He's difficult to get to do anything at all on Saturday afternoons, seeing he's up at 4am!

Wivi

10-02-2007, 11:32

:laughing: Fi. Will hands me the washing too although I am in big trouble if there is lots of underwear in the basket because if I am not quick enough for Will (and that's pretty likely) then he starts running around the backyard waving underwear above his head like a flag!

hayleylea

10-02-2007, 11:58

:laughing: about Will running around the yard using your undies as a flag! Thats very funny! lol Tan -make sure you let us know what Troy cooks up for you...i might have to come around your house for a BBQ by the sounds of it lol

Fi, $3 for a slippery dip is a bargain!! like you said if you dont end up using it for $3 you cant really go wrong - And if you dont end up using it and it cleans up alright you can always leave it at your mum and dads for when Claires there (that is of course if they dont mind lol).

Trent just woke up and has to go back to work at 3! :banghead: He worked 6pm-6am and is now going back in at 3 and working till 3 - he is going to be exhausted! I honestly have no idea how he does it.

Anyway speaking Tan im off to do my house work now. This house looks like a bombs hit it - problem with living in such a small place is it takes 5 seconds for it to look like a bombs hit it! :rolleyes:

Talk soon guys. Ill be lonely again tonight when Cooper goes to bed so if anyone is on MSN feel free to message me! :D

hayleylea

10-02-2007, 19:13

Just me again! Cooper did the cutest thing tonight that i just had to share it here. Before bed I layed on the lounge with him while he drank his bottle and when he finished i said OK off to bed. He got off the lounge and got Ted and I said say nigh night to Axel (the dog) and he RAN over to Axel and gave him the biggest cuddle and waved to him and then toddled off to his bed! it was sooooooooooooooooooo cute!!!

Im pretty tired tonight so i might have myself a nice hot milo and hit the sack reasonably early. im watching Wife Swap at the moment. Man there are some weird ones out there! :laughing:

Goodnight guys....

MrsMiggins

10-02-2007, 21:38

Well, I did manage to get Dave to go & have a look at the slippery dip with me, and he did agree that for $3 you couldn't really go wrong. But when we went & had a good look at it, it looked as though the legs had been dug/sunk into the ground for a while and the ends were quite rusted. Dave was a bit worried they could break & that it wouldn't be safe. Also, there were some screws down the end of the slide on the sides and they would have needed to be cut/sanded off or kids could catch themselves on them.

All in all, we decided that it didn't look very safe, so we didn't bother with it. A shame really, but I didn't mind. Better to be safe than sorry!

Tan, that is so funny about Will waving the undies around!! :laughing:

Hayley, how cute Cooper gave Axel a cuddle before bed!!

Claire was running around under the sprinkler tonight & was having an absolute ball! It was so cute to watch!

She only had an hour's sleep today (from about 10.15-11.15) so she went to bed early. I can only hope that she'll stay asleep all night now!! :fingerscrossed:

Lou, how's Maddi going? (Maybe they're all sound asleep & have been for days.....!)

hayleylea

11-02-2007, 07:03

Fi - Oh well about the slippery dip - but your right better to be safe then sorry! How cute about Claire running under the sprinkler, i havent tried that with Cooper yet, im sure he would love it though because he is water baby! Thats great Claire went to bed early for you too....I hope she slept all night for you!

Trents home today for the first time in a little while so we are going to find something fun to do together. Hope everyone enjoys their sunday!

Moorish

11-02-2007, 10:26

Hi I'm back! :wave:

Thought I might catch you all up on me and my family!
(Sorry - it may be long!)

So ok I survived QLD...........JUST.
Fi was right in her posts - I practically melted away up there! I figured I spent about $40 on bottled water while I was there.

I stayed with Claire (my friend) at her parents house on a pull out futon couch (yay.) They had airconditioning which was on the day I arrived and never on again (WHAT THE???) I was given a large personal fan to use all night in my room which I had pointing directly at my face but it was still 25+ degrees overnight and I didn't sleep at all the first night, and not very well each night after. (Hence my eyes looking so black in the pic with Fi!!!)

So we got pretty much everything done that I went to QLD for, bridal dress (have 3 to choose from), bridesmaid pattern & fabric, other details etc.

As you can see, my little Immy baby is now walking and of course, she HAD to start while I was away. Shane called me on the Sunday, after two days in QLD, and I was sitting in a bridal store while Claire was in the change room with a lady helping her into a dress. Shane told me that Immy had just let go of the wall and walked about 10 steps to him. Well I just LOST it. I started crying and wanted to come home - I just couldn't believe we'd waited so long for her to walk and now she does it! The change room went quiet and after I'd hung up Claire said, um, are you ok?? I just sniffed, yeah. . . and tried desperately to find tissues in my bag! She came out of the change room and my focus went back to the gorgeous dress she was wearing (of course it had to be the best one in the store!) and the bridal lady came up and asked if I needed a hug! Very sweet!

ANYHOO... I resigned myself to the fact that I'd missed Immy's first steps and tried to get on with the job.

On the Wed I left QLD after a 1 hour delay at the airport and flew to Melb where I lugged a suitcase, a carry on case and my handbag out of the airport, onto a city bus and to the train station. I jumped on a train and headed out to Tracey's house (twoblue) where she met me at her station with the boys. It was just GREAT to see her again and I spent the night and we shopped all of Thursday! The same day Shane flew (after a 2 hour delay) into Melb and went to sort all the stuff out with the car. Turns out that the guy hadn't put through the finance papers thus delaying the purchase so MAN were we annoyed! They gave him a sh!tty old falcon to drive and he met me at Tracey's place where we all had yummy take away and beer and caught up.

We then made our way to the Crowne Plaza which is where he booked for two nights but it really wasn't that big a deal. Room was a bad set up and we had light coming in under the door and could hear everyone outside our room. Also, our doona had been put on upside down so half way through the night we got tangled as we kicked the doona off but it had half come out so we still had the cover up around our chest! Weird as. Nicest thing was that Shane had negotiated full brekkies for us each morning so that was yummy! Oh and when we arrived and went to our room the key didn't work so we had to go fix it - turns out the girl had just written to wrong room number down so we were trying to get into someone elses room! LOL! 10 mins after getting into our right room there was a phone call from her to sincerely appologise for her mistake - and a bottle of champagne on it's way up to us! ALL RIGHT FOR MISTAKES! Shane told me and we just about wet ourselves laughing in disbelief! I mean talk about over-kill on the service! LOL! (oh but the champas was well received anyway!)

So we didn't end up picking up our car until 2pm on the Friday which left us with bugger all time to shop. We hit Ikea anyway and spent a few hours there filling the car (fun! fun! fun!) before cruising around Richmond then heading back to the hotel. Had room service for dinner then hit the hay early as we had an early start the next day.

Up at the crack of dawn on the Saturday, quick brekkie then packed our bags and headed for Port Melbourne and boarded the boat. The day sail was long and boring and Shane got through about a 1/4 of a novel while I read some trashing mags. (If I'd only known my Mother & Baby mag was waiting for me in the mail at home!:rolleyes: ) The trip was fairly smooth but I still lay down and snoozed where I could as I felt queezy and there was no WAY I wanted to hurl on that trip. We had a late lunch in their a-la-cart restaurant and enjoyed it thoroughly - even managed dessert which thankfully, I didn't regret later!

We docked early at 6:30pm which we thought was great as we had a 3 hour drive home ahead of us, only to be delayed by 2 hours by quarantine. Yup, we sat, car idling, in a que for 2 hours because there were only 3 officers at the quarantine check out. MAN it sucked and we were spitting chips by the end of it. Finally got through and went to the supermarket to get water, burger rings (cravings), grapes and an ice cream each for the ride home. I ended up falling asleep on my pillow about 45 mins from home and Shane made some ground and got us home at 11:45pm.

We went and got the kids the next day and BOY was that emotional! I managed to keep myself together in front of them but they'd all just grown up so much in 9 days! Immy especially. Not only was she walking now (and quite well I might add!) her voice had changed, her laugh had changed (Shane had also taught her this forced, evil HA-HA-HA laugh which she copies and thinks it's hilarious!:laughing: ) and she also had started babbling away in her own language - totally aware of what she's saying. She'll come up to me now and talk to me the same way as Chelsea and NIcola talk to me and totally expect me to know what she's saying! It's very cute and she's developing so quickly. She's added "shoes" to her small list of words which worries me!

Anyway, I'm finally getting settled back at home after a week of washing and resorting some things, and I realise that as of yesterday I'm now 19 week! :eek: I have my 20 week scan this coming Friday where we well - yet again - confirm that we are indeed having a boy! LOL! We still can't believe it if you couldn't already tell! The next few weeks are going to fly big time. Tomorrow is a public holiday here (regatta day) and also uniform day for Chelsea. I have most of it already but I will go up to the school tomorrow to get some 2nd hand things as extras if they're in good enough condition. Then on to all the labeling of clothing, lunch boxes, bags etc. Chelsea starts Kindy on the 20th and Nicola starts pre-kinder on the 15th, however the days don't match up so I will only have 1 of them away at a time, oh well doesn't matter - next year I'll have 2 at school!

Shane's gone to play golf today and I'm stuck at home with the kids. Immy is napping and at about 11:30 we're going to walk up the road to an open home that I'd like to check out.
Oh my the way! The car! Yes! The car is GREAT, albeit HUGE! Here's a couple of quick pics I took of it yesterday while we were out.
Darling car 1 (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/Febpics017.jpg)
Darling car 2 (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/Febpics018.jpg)

As I mentioned the other day, I have put two decent scratches on it already when I tried to come out of a public car park that was just to tight. I scraped the left side mirror a bit and above the tire on the metal bit that sticks out over the wheel. I didn't sleep very well that night and was so cross with myself. Shane took it for a quote and it only needs airbrushing thankfully so will only be $60 to fix and is being done on Wednesday.

Ok well this post is going to be far to long for anyone to read so I'd better head off. That's been me over the last 2 weeks or so! Hope I haven't bored the pants off you!
Leave you with a pic of my darlings!
My angels (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/Febpics_007crop.jpg)
Talk soon!
xoxo

Wivi

11-02-2007, 11:37

Anna - you are the queen of mammoth posts. You even rival Fi! You certainly had a busy time away - any wonder you needed a rest when you got home.

Fi - I hope Claire slept all night for you last night and that it is the beginning of a new pattern for Claire. Never mind about the slipery dip - I am sure you will find many more bargains out there!

Well - here we go - WILL DID A WEE ON THE POTTY! I am sure it was a fluke but we got all excited anyway and gave him lots of claps and which of course he joined in with. (oh boy - if anyone had dared suggest to me 3 years ago that one day I would be chatting about stuff like this let alone getting excited about it I would have killed them).

Oh - and just when I was starting to think Will was never going to say anything decipherable this morning Troy opened his bedroom door to get him up and Will says "oh Look!" and points at his teddy. I think I'll stop worrying now.

Well - I didn't get a yummy dinner last night but DH is all inspired and now wants to do more courses! Look what i have started!

MrsMiggins

11-02-2007, 12:34

YAY WILL!!!!!!! :smiliedance:

Tan, that is so exciting!! We haven't even begun contemplating that step with Claire yet. I am sure she's nowhere near ready. :no: Good thing I have no issues with having to change 2 sets of nappies...... yet!

And yay for Will talking too!! Not just one word, but two strung together!!! What a clever little boy!!

That is great Troy was inspired by the cooking course you got him! What a great gift, BTW. I might have to find out if there's anything like that up here. Dave would love that.

Claire did sleep all night last night, but I was very naughty & was bubhubbing til after midnight, then I couldn't get to sleep as I am a big fat whale who can't roll over in bed, and my hands and legs & ankles were so swollen I was uncomfortable! My skin felt so tight!! I think I eventually managed to get to sleep just before 2, and then Claire woke at 7! So I'm a bit sleepy, but I'll get over it! I was thinking this morning actually that I should make an effort to get some good sleeps now in case I go into labour after not having had much sleep & I'm too tired & exhausted to labour well. Oh, and also because I know I won't be getting much sleep for a while once The Boy arrives! (Oooh! 37 weeks today!! Only 3 weeks til my due date!! *chews nails in nervous excitement*)

Have any of you had to deal with splinters yet? Didn't someone mention that a little while ago? We discovered two tiny splinters in the side of Claire's foot this morning (must've been when she was playing in the yard, climbing over some logs the other day) and I'm really worried about how I'm going to get them out. She is not at all tolerant of us touching her feet (except - strangely - for a foot massage, which she loves!) Cutting her toenails is an epic drama, so I've no idea how we're going to go about intricately removing two tiny splinters!

I tried to see if I could have a go when she went down for her sleep this morning, but she jumped & almost woke up when I'd barely touched her, so doing it when she's asleep is not going to be an option.

Excuse me ladies. I have to go chase away this annoying little pee-wee that spends all day under our back pergola screaching it's stupid little head off! It likes it I thinnk because it echoes under there. Problem is that it also echoes (really, really loudly!) throughout our whole house!! Not only that, but it poos all over our outdoor furniture & our glass pool fence! I end up having to go out there to shoo it away at least 2-3 times a day!! Grrrrr!!!! :mad: If only we had dogs that would chase it away!!! Stupid things just lay there! Not fazed in the slightest!

cath

11-02-2007, 15:08

Hello,
Fi Paddy has had several splinters. One was a big chunk of wood down in his fingernail which a Dr amazingly pulled out with tweezers. The others have been little and we have just left them and kept an eye on them and they have worked their own way out. If they look small and aren't bothering her maybe just keep an eye on them and they will come out.

Tan how exiciting about Will weeing in the potty. I have no plans to start toilet training yet - just can't be bothered really and don't think Paddy is ready. It is possible I'll be dealing with 2 in nappies too Fi. Good work with his words too. Paddy has started saying "apple" which is so cute. If he sees a picture of an apple or a real one this big smile comes over his face and he slowly says "apple". That's his first real word apart from Mum and Dada - how exciting. Still alot of chatter in his own little language which is quite handy really becuase you can respond in any way you feel like ' "oh really", "that's what I thought too".

Anna good work with catching up and writing those epic posts. Yay for Immy walking!! Paddy is now half walking/half crawling (depends how fast he wants to get somewhere). The other night he was running - Dean had got him all wound up about walkingand he was giggling his little head off and running across the loungeroom until he toppled forwards - he looked like he was drunk - very funny. I still think it will be a while until he is totally walking. His poor knees!! His pants are wearing out too. The new car looks great. How annoying about the scratch. Did you speak to your Ob. about your sleep? I sometimes have sleep problems too - so annoying isn't it?

Our sleep problems for the last 2 nights have been this little man. He has been driving us nuts!! Friday night he was up from 1am-4:30am then last night it was 1am until 3:15am (after also being up at 11:30). We don't normally get 2 bad nights in a row. We are both stuffed. I can sort of feel lumps under his gums but not really sure if he is teething or what. I was saying to Dean I don't know how I'm going to cope when I have to gt up every few hours to feed a newborn again -how did I do it? I really hope he sleeps tonight (at least through those hours from 12am-6am - I hate being up in those time).

Hayley hope you are having a nice day with Trent and Cooper.

Anyway better get onto the stupid dishes and vacuuming. Hope everyone is having a good weekend.

Cath

nkenward

11-02-2007, 15:12

Hi there everyone,

Anna - great to hear that your holiday went well in Qld. The car looks good - maybe not for the scratches - we too got a new car (not so new now) but we just recently got scratches too. While we were in the car mind you - someone opened their door into ours. They didn't realise we were in the car - and then had the nerve to deny it was them - stupid people.
Anyway as for the camping - Connor had a ball. We bought a big 10 person tent - and it had 3 separate rooms. A lot more room than a caravan. However, in saying that he got a little bored - as he would just take off if we let him outside - and we were near the road in the caravan park. But he loved watching all the bigger kids on bikes etc.. Cooking can be quite limited on a camping trip - it has to be easy - and has to be stored in an eskie (best to buy 1 day/2 days at a time). We used the caravan parks bbq, and we have a camping stove for other items. We decided for the first time to have a powered site - and bought along a kettle & toaster - great for a quick breakfast & heating milk etc (we just placed a bottle inside the boiled kettle). Connor slept in a port-a-cot. We had a double mattress. But your girls will love it - especially if you can have a fire etc.. I think with kids though - it would be easier to have a place that has a playground/pool and somewhere they can go and play and you know where they are. I have caravaned/camped most of my life and I think it is just a fantastic family holiday. Oh - take a pack of cards - once the kids are asleep - you can't really do much else. But it is a lot of fun. Yeah Connor has gone real blonde - ever since the camping trip - yeah he is really into skateboarding at the moment - just like his Dad. He skoots around on the carpet on a blank deck with no wheels at the moment and gets really excited when a skate movie gets played.

Tania - congrats on having Will's sleep-in. I can picture him running around with the underwear - that is so funny. Maybe he will be a superman kid and end up wearing them on the outside of his clothes. I was worried too - as Connor is a bit slow on words - he is more interested in skate boarding and playing totem tennis at the moment - trying to get him to sit still long enough to read a book is a hassle. But we have also heard a few little words coming out - Bye, Shoes and Cars, and he has this saying oh wow - we think that's what he is saying.

Fi - bad luck on the slippery dip - but its definitely better to be safe than sorry. Sometimes when things are cheap like that - you end up spending more than its worth fixing it up. As for the splinters - nope - none here yet - just the burn.

Hayley - That is really good that Cooper is learning to go to bed by himself. When I read that I know Connor the past 3 nights has preferred to just lay down on the couch and go to sleep - rather than me rock him to sleep. I thought I might have smelt or something - but it might be just the next phase. I hope it is a good sign.

Anyway must go, I am off to make roast pork. I got a 2.5kg boned roll for only $14. Yummo!!

hayleylea

11-02-2007, 15:45

Hi guys!

WOW Anna you are the queen of epic posts! Love them!!! Gosh we can talk in here cant we...i wonder if any other parenting groups talk as much as us lol...Anna that photo of your little girls is BEAUTIFULL! they all have such gorgeous eyes! Stunning! Your car is a beauty too!!

Fi - im glad that Claire slept well for you! Not so happy about that peewee!! How annoying!! Goodluck with the splinters in Claires foot too!

Cath - YAY for Paddy walking!! Thats great news! He will give up the crawling soon enough! Hope he starts sleeping better for you as of tonight!

Natalie - Sounds like Connor might be ready to go to sleep by himself. Thats just like it happened with Cooper! He started getting real squirmy when i was trying to get him to sleep...Goodluck with it! He will let you know when he is ready! Roast pork! YUMMO - Can i come for dinner? lol

Tan - :yelclap: for Will going to the potty. Im with you Fi i dont think Cooper is anywhere near ready for that but i have decided that i might get a potty and just put him on it every now and again..it cant hurt! Mind you I only thought of the idea because someone else had mentioned they had started trying to get there little one to go to the potty! I was thinking i wouldnt have to deal with that till his second birthday! :o

We have had a really good day today! We went on a road trip to Abercrombie caves (http://walkabout.com.au/locations/NSWAbercrombieCaves.shtml) Its probably an hour and half away from here...Cooper fell asleep on the way there which was around 11.30 and he woke up happy when we got there. Only thing is when we got there the tour guide told us that they had a huge storm last night and most of the caves were closed due to flooding!It didnt matter though he let us into the bits that werent flooded - there was us and another family there. We got to have a look for free so that was pretty good. Cooper had a ball!!! He loved running around in the dirt...Only he just HAD to take Ted so Ted is a little dirty. Will be getting a wash tommorrow thats for sure! Funny thing is the tour guid let us in the gate to the caves and said just to push this button when we wanted to get out...so we said yeah OK. Anyway we had a look around and pushed the button and nothing happened!!! We were trapped!! :laughing: We stood around for ages trying to get the gate to open and then the father of the other family jumped this big wall and went and got the tour guide! :laughing: It was pretty funny - not so funny if we had to spend the night there rofl! On our trip we stopped and saw an echinda, a lizard and some kangaroos which Cooper thought was GREAT!!! After the caves we then went to the local pub for lunch - Cooper was just an angel. It was such a great day. He ended up falling asleep for another half hour on the way home. Ive put some pics up on my webiste if you want to take a look!

Anyway im off, better start getting some dinner organised for the little guy!

nkenward

11-02-2007, 15:47

Hayley - more than welcome. Just checked the weight - um...3.2 kg - I think Connor will be having a late dinner tonight. Left it a little late to put on - but hey - lots of left overs.

Anna - forgot to add - my msn tag. You are quite welcome to add me - along with anyone else.

hayleylea

11-02-2007, 16:15

Hey Natalie, just added you to my MSN :D

Moorish

11-02-2007, 17:07

Well I chose a great time to wake up from my little snooze! Shane got home as I'd finished watching my taped episode of house then I sort of just fell asleep on the couch which I didn't expect to do. I didn't want to nap because it was already about 3:30pm and I knew if I didn't have a good nap I'd feel terrible. But I snoozed thru the girls waking and playing around me. When Immy got up though, she wanted to come to me but I vaguely heard Shane say no, leave mummy alone and she just cracked it big time so I stuck my arm out for her to see I was there and she came over and gave me the longest cuddle! Awwww......!

Cath I didn't really talk to the Dr about my sleep issues yet. It got better, then worse again in QLD (but that was the heat) and I think most of it is to do with anxiety. When I have stresses or I start thinking about names or fly into a panic over labour again (like I'm doing at the moment) my quality of sleep diminishes immensly. I hope that Paddy's phase is just that of teething, and I'm sure than by the time #2 comes along he'll be back into a good night time routine. If it happens 3 nights in a row you may have a pattern emerging so try to nut it out so you can break it. Good on Paddy for walking! Immy does crawl a little still too - depending on how fast she needs to get somewhere but we stop her by saying, No Immy, up-a-day, up and walk, good girl! And she usually does! Now she's about 95% on her feet which is great for only 2 weeks of walking. I was hoping she'd just throw herself into it which is what she's done.

Nat! I can't believe the people who scratched your car denied it! I hope you got their number plate and reported it, or sorted it out somehow!
As for the camping, I too have camped thru my whole childhood and just LOVED it! We bought a 3 room 12 person tent but were going to have the left wing as the mum/dad room (with the youngest), the right wing with the rest of the kids and the middle room as storage. If we bring other people (like kids friends) we'll use the car as storage and the middle room as sleeping. We thought of pre-making some meals, like a bolognaise, stirfry etc and freezing it then just taking it straight from the freezer into an esky with some ice -we can replace the ice as needed and then just thaw the food for 1/2 day before we reheat it. And I agree - we'll be going to a powered site for a while and the shops won't be too far away! We got a 3 burner stove for Chrissy and as for sleeping, the girls each have a roll up matress and a sleeping bag, we have a double roll up and sleeping bags. For the youngest (Immy at this stage) We also have a sleeping bag and we'll take her sheepskin and an extra blanket to sort of make her all snug in the bag. She really doesn't have anywhere to go so as long as we zip up the area and take her Poppy with us then we'll be ok! Oh and thanks for the tip on the cards - might work for an hour or so with a nice bottle of red, but I think I can use my imagination to come up with some more interesting ways to pass time! LOL!

Tan - YAY oh YAY for Will weeing in the potty! Keep it up and see how it goes! You just never know, you could be onto something! Immy doesn't have many words either, just heaps of jibber jabber but I wouldn't worry too much, I think by around 18 months is when they start getting a few more words under their little belts! Immy is too concerned with climbing stools, exploring small spaces and plugging in the PS2 (which I caught her trying to do today! It's my msn pic at the moment! LOL!)

Hayles sounds like you had such a good day! Yesterday we took the kids out (& the next door neighbours 10yo) to Muirs (fish place) for lunch. It's right on the waterfront and we forgot that the wooden boat festival was on at the same pier so we just said to the security guy we just wanted to go to the restaurant for lunch and he let us all in! So we had lunch then took our time strolling back to the car, checking out some of the amazing Tassie crafted boats on the way. We then went and flew our 3 kites on a huge cricket oval and had a ball until Immy cracked it and we had to leave. That's where I took the picture of the girls by the way - under a lovely tree sitting on some lush grass. I was lucky too because Immy definately spat it after that!

Ahh.... yet again I've managed a lengthy post even though I didn't mean too!
Do I really talk this much RIL? I dunno! Probably!
Ok, off to fix a fast dinner - yum yum! We all feel like taco's again tonight! Haven't had it in a few weeks so it's time for my fix!

xoxo

bingo

11-02-2007, 20:25

Holy Batman its been busy, busy, busy here since I've been gone and now there are about 5 pages for me to catch up on. I know what I'll be doing tonight = reading. Well we went to the ENT on Thursday and everything went really well. Anna, the ENT was marvellous and was so good with Maddi. He just had all the time in the world for her and talked to her and she loved him straight away. Its funny how kids can tell nice people. Anyways, she had a hearing test and her hearing is fine. There was no further sign of infection which was a relief. He said if Maddi had another bout of infections then we would have to consider putting in grommets. So thanks to Anna and Tracey for referring us to Douglas. We stayed down in melbourne until today. We stayed with some friends of ours in hawthorn and we had such a great time. Shopping in bridge road on friday. OMG we went to the botanical gardens on Saturday and Maddi played in the childrens garden which was fantastic. I can highly recommend it and the best thing is its FREE. Maddi just ran and ran and ran to the point where she couldn't stand anymore. While we were away Maddi has been sharing a bed with us so I'm hoping that she can discern the difference between holidays and home! So far tonight she has gone down in her cot and here's hoping :fingerscrossed: .
Potty training. Well our potty trained baby girl disappeared a few months ago. I think the introduction of creche really stuffed things up. But I am going to be attempting to re-introduce it this week. I guess everyone has their own method but I can tell you how we initially trained maddi. If you can tell when they are doing a poo or a wee then you need to tell them whats going on. So you need to decide what word you are going to use for each of #1 and #2. Once they start to associate the word with the action then you could start getting them comfy with the potty. With maddi she used to go like clockwork, so at the time she usually goes poo I would sit her on the potty tell her its Poo Poo time and get a book and we would sing songs and read books. Every now and then I would say Poo and eventually a poo would eventuate. You just shouldn't leave them on it too long IYKWIM.
Well Im going to have a read and catch up on what everyone's been up to.
Goodnight girls

hayleylea

11-02-2007, 20:46

Hey Lou, Good to hear from you again! Glad the ENT went well!! Thats great!!

Just a quick one from me to say hi to Lou...im off to bed because im buggered!!!

Night all :sleeping:

MrsMiggins

11-02-2007, 21:24

I am an idiot!!! A complete idiot!!

I just typed this big, detailed post, then before I clicked submit, remembered I wanted to do something, so I clicked the link for that, losing my entire post!!

I am so angry with myself right now!!! I can only hope that once this baby is born, he gives me my brain back!!!

I'm too shattered to rewrite it, so I guess that saves you all from one of my epic posts!

*grumble! grumble!*

I'll post again tomorrow....

Mackies_Mummy

12-02-2007, 08:19

Hi everyone,

I have a beautiful nearly 16 month old daughter, it's such a great age! She is so much fun and she loves to give cuddles and kisses!

Has anyone begun toilet training? I'm trying but not having much luck and would love some advice!

Has anyone done swimming lessons? Are they good for bubs of this age? My DD loves water and I think I should get her swimming. I have taught her to put her head under and blow bubbles. But we don't have a pool for swimming.

Kara.

Wivi

12-02-2007, 08:55

Hi Kara - nice to meet you! I wouldn't say we have started TT yet but we do have a potty and I have been putting Will on it before his bath / shower to introduce him to the idea. He has done one wee so far and that was a fluke I think.

Will has been going to swimming lessons since he was 6 months old. He loves it. I think they are a great thing to do but sometimes the bubs don't like the lessons at first. It doesn't seem to matter about whether they like the water or not, just sometimes they don't like the lesson the first couple of times. I'm not sure why.

Oh - everyone else. Anna - your posts make me so tired, you are such a busy little family and yet you find time to write mammoth posts like that! I have no idea how you do it all. Your girls are all so beautiful, I think you and Shane have done a wonderful job as parents.

Fi - young lady you had better start having some early nights! You need to stock up on some sleep! I think maybe you need a nice bedtime routine - starting at about 9pm so that you are aiming to be in bed by 10! Only thing is you'll probably be awake again at 4am because you are used to such a small amount of sleep! I highly recommend relaxation CD's by the way.

Lou - that's fab about the ENT visit. And that park in Melbourne sounded great. Victoria really has got great parks - very family friendly.

Oh Hayles - Cooper just loves that dirt doesn't he? Mind you - Will loves it too, he keeps taking handfuls of dirt out of the potplants at church and throwing it on the grass.

Nat - it sounds as though Connor is moving to getting himself off to sleep too. A little sad for you maybe but a big step forards to independence. I love that Will puts himself to sleep and always has, it makes it easy to put him down at other people's places etc which is very important for us!

This is going to sound really silly but I am a little worried about Will. He seems to be tired a lot. He has been sleeping almost 13 hours most nights and a 2.5-3 hour sleep each day as well. He seems ok in the morning but seems tired all afternoon after his sleep and by about 6 oclock is really starting to get ratty. We have been reading lots of books and doing quiet things between 6 and 7 so that he is not going to bed too early but he just seems really stuffed. In the afternoons he often looks a bit pale as well with dark shadows under his eyes. He is eating ok. His molars are not quite all the way through - do you think that could be it? Am I worried about nothing?

I should go, but I hope everyone has a great day.

hayleylea

12-02-2007, 08:55

Hi Kara! - Welcome to you and Mackenzi! She is a cutie! We are glad to have you hear but i must warn you we do tend to talk a bit! lol.

We have all just been talking about toilet training - I havent started yet but think I might start trying Cooper....get him use to it anyway.

As for swimming lessons a few of the girls here have there little ones at swimming. Tan has been been taking Will since he was a little tyke and he loves it - She will be able to tell you more about it. I think Cath also takes Paddy...I really should get Cooper into them because he just loves going to the pool - he is such a water baby. Sounds like you are doing a pretty good job with Mackenzi anyway getting her to blow bubbles in the water :yelclap:

Fi - Dont you hate when you write a huge post and you do something wrong! :banghead:

It started off as a pretty gloomy day but now its turned out nice so I might take Cooper off to the park for a little bit. We were going to go down to mums and go to toddler time at the library but Mr decided to sleep in and it would have been too much of a rush to get him down there by 10!

Anyway Ill talk soon...:wave:

ETA: Tan and I posted at the same time! lol. Tan, i wouldnt be too worried about Will and his sleeping - Cooper sleeps about the same as Will. As for him being tired and stuff of an afternoon, maybe his teeth are giving him a bit of grief. If he doesnt have a temp and is eating well im sure he is fine. As for the dark circles under his eyes and him being pale - he could just be feeling a bit down because of them nasty toothy pegs. Cooper often looked "sick" while he was teething.

Wivi

12-02-2007, 09:00

One more quick thing - Hayley I looked at your website. My goodness - Teddy had to be in all the adventures yesterday didn't he?

hayleylea

12-02-2007, 09:03

:laughing: :yes: Tan, Ted had to go everywhere yesterday! LOL god love him. He just loves his ted! I dont usually let him take him out and about but Trent put him in the car and let him take him! I tried to leave ted in the car and he wouldnt have it so along came Ted to the caves! :laughing: (needless to say he now needs a bath!)

Kara just noticed in your signature that your pregnant again! :smiliedance: Congrats!

MrsMiggins

12-02-2007, 12:29

Hi all!

Welcome Kara! You should definitely have a read back through a few pages of this thread re: the whole toilet training thing. We've been talking quite a bit about it lately. Personally I have no intention of doing anything about it just yet. I don't think Claire is anywhere near ready, so I'm just going to let her be my guide. I've too much on my plate right now to worry about it! :D We haven't taken Claire for swimming lessons, although I wanted to. I just couldn't manage it with working full time (have recently gone on maternity leave) and with bub #2 due any time now, the timing is just not right. I'm going to get her into it as soon as I can though. We have a pool & also live near the beach. Claire is a total water baby & has always loved being in the water!

Tan, maybe Will is just tired from going through a busy stage - learning new things, maybe he's having a growth spurt? I'm not sure, but Claire is a bit the same when she's having a big week with growing or learning.

Oh, and thanks for the "young lady" comment!!! :laughing: :laughing:

Hayles, I just had a look at Cooper's site too. Looks like he just loved the caves!! What an adventure! He looks so cute in his little boots all covered in dirt!! I'm not surprised Ted needed a bath after that trip!

*sigh!* Excuse me while I go and get rid of this blasted pee-wee yet again!!! Does anyone know a good way to get rid of them? (or alternatively, does anyone know of a good recipe for pee-wee pie?! :mad:)

hayleylea

12-02-2007, 12:42

Hey Fi, HAHA yeah Ted still hasnt had a wash yet because its raining and id never get him dry! Dont have any tips for that Pee-wee except maybe a slug gun! :laughing: Cooper certianly did enjoy the caves - he just loves getting dirty! I took him to the park today (before it started raining!!!) He had a ball - there are some more pics on my website of that too but you probably would have seen them if you just looked at it.

Anyway i probably should go and clean up! Ill talk soon!

cath

12-02-2007, 14:19

Hi all,
Paddy broke the pattern of Friday and Saturday night and slept through last night (after a dose of Nurofen and some Bonjella before bedtime - there was a lot of munching on his fingers on both sides of his mouth before he went to bed) -yay!! Only problem was that after mentioning that I have problems with sleep somtimes it hit last night and I lay there pretty much all night awake - I hate it!! I've managed to have about 30 minutes sleep today (Paddy has been asleep for over 2 hours now - woohoo) and really hope I finally get a decent sleep tonight. Anyway enough of the sleep talk.

Hayley I saw the pictures of yesterday's outing - looked excellent. How funny that Ted now has to join in all the fun - very cute.We've started putting a soft toy in the cot with Paddy (Babo the Ugly Doll - a funny looking thing that was a present when he was born). Dean found Paddy in his room cuddling Babo yesterday and said that maybe that might help with his sleep dramas. I didn't think he would care but I did find him chatting to Babo when he woke up this morning (things used to just get flung out of the cot but maybe Babo will get to stay).

Tan it sounds like Will is just a little man who needs a lot of sleep. I was chatting to one of the women at Mothers Group and her baby (who is now 14 months old) is ready for another sleep every 2-2.5 hours whereas there is no way Paddy will sleep unless he has been up for at least 4. Will sounds like an active little boy who needs his rest. Hope he is doing okay.

Fi I have never heard of a pee-wee but sounds bloody annoying - we have a problem with noisy cockies around here sometimes which is bizarre as we are inner city. I hate noisy birds!! Good luck with shutting it up. Are you getting an Braxton Hicks contractions or is anything starting to feel different? How exciting you are so close to the boy arriving. Do you have everything ready for him?

Anna good to hear you had a nap yesterday -it can make all the difference. Why are you panicking about labour? How were your other 3? Hope the scan goes well on Friday.

Lou good to hear that the specialist went well and Maddi seems okay. We were just at the Botanical Gardens last week -the children's bit is great isn't it - I agree - free is a bonus.

Welcome Kara and congratulations on your pregnancy. I did a term of swimming lessons with Paddy and he loved it. We went to the pool on Saturday and it has been 4 months or so since the lessons and he still remembers to hang on to the edge and turn around to get in into the pool which is excellent.

Anyway I can hear Paddy waking up - better go. Chat soon.

Cath

hayleylea

12-02-2007, 15:19

Cath - thats great Paddy is sleeping better for you, not good about you not sleeping. I have had the same problem the last couple of nights - i just cant sleep and it drives me bonkers! How cute about Paddys new bed time buddy...Cooper just started off talking to his Ted then he started not getting out of the cot unless he did and now he loves to carry him around everywhere. I try and hide him when he isnt looking lol. I dont let him take him down the street or anything like that. He wouldnt have normally taken him on our adventure yesterday, but I really dont mind. It was so cute seeing how happy he was carrying Ted around showing him things!
Dont even get me started about Cockatoos!!! :banghead: My MIL has one so its in our yard (because we share the yard - cant wait for our house to be finished i can tell you that!) Just latley it has been sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo noisey - Screaching!! GRRRRRR it drives me mad. The little bugger bit me the other day too which i wasnt impressed about! Cooper loves Cocky but I can assure you I will never be getting him one!!!

Better get going...talk soon~

cath

12-02-2007, 15:22

Paddy woke up so happy to be with Babo in the cot he wouldn't get up - just wanted to keep rolling around with his new friend. Here's some photos:

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/IMG_3292.jpg

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/IMG_3290.jpg

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t122/cathbroadbent/IMG_3291.jpg

hayleylea

12-02-2007, 15:26

Cath - Looks like paddy love babo!!! So Cute!!!

hayleylea

12-02-2007, 16:23

guys im really worried at the moment. Trent went to our house early this morning and he said he would be back early afternoon and he still isnt here! :( He is out there by himself i hope everything is OK!!! Im thinking about jumping in my car and going out there! He doesnt have his mobile with him - even if he did its limited service. I hope he is OK! Sorry for the random post guys, my phone is down and i dont know why I have tried resetting it and it wont work so i cant even ring the shop out near our house to ask if he has been in! And of course i have no credit on my stupid mobile :banghead:

He will be getting a big talking to when he gets home thats for sure! he should have rang to let me know if he is ok! In saying that he will also be getting a huge hug, its awful thinking something could have happend to him! :crying:

cath

12-02-2007, 16:39

Oh Hayley you poor thing. I'm sure everything is fine -you know how house renovations always take longer than you think. If you are still waiting and worried in half an hour maybe leave a note and head out there. I hate when Dean is later than he says he will be and then he doesn't answer his mobile when I ring - I worry heaps and just keep ringing until he answers. Hope Trent appears soon.

hayleylea

12-02-2007, 17:38

Oh what a relief he is home. I was sooooo worried..he said he would be home mid afternoon so by 6.25 i was really starting to worry. He usually rings from the pay phone if he is going to be late. Anyway I got Cooper ready and had just put him in the car when Trent turned up behind us!! I was a little cranky at him because he hadnt rang but all is forgiven because he is OK! He said he didnt realise the time which is OK because he was busy tiling my bathroom floor! So im hugely relieved now!!

Thanks for the message Cath. Im not usually this much of a worry wart but it was just so out of character for him!

cath

12-02-2007, 17:42

Good to hear Hayley.

Wivi

13-02-2007, 08:03

Glad to hear the lost Trent returned. Men - they are just hopeless with things like that!

Troy has just left with Will for daycare and I can tell you I was quite happy to see him toddle out the door this morning. He woke up with serious attitude for want of a better description. I guess it is just what some of you guys have been talking about for a while but he didn't want to get dressed (but that isn't really anything new), he didn't want to put the sunscreen on, he didn't want to put his shoes on either! Needless to say I did make him do all of these things and none of which he was very happy about. About the only thing he did want to do was go out the door! Hmmm - testing the boundaries I guess.

I think he is going to be one naughty little boy actually. He has started to get this very cheeky look on his face right before he does something he shouldn't. He knows full well what he is about to do is naughty and you can see it coming. At the moment it is right before he throws his cutlery away. That's the obvious one at least. My new tactic is to just not give it back at all when he does this - I am not sure if it is working yet. I'll keep you posted.

Anyway - I'm off to have a cup of T in peace!

hayleylea

13-02-2007, 11:37

Hey Tan..how did Will go at childcare today? Did he get out of his mood?

We went out to visit Trent at our house this morning and then we all came back home because the concrete people rang up and said they couldnt do it today and had to put it off till tommorrow. Cooper went to bed at 11.30 - he was buggered. He did get up a bit earlier then he usually does so i guess thats the reason. I had the worst night sleep last night! i just tossed and turned all night before i knew it it was time to get up :banghead:

Hope everyone is having a great day...Fi the days are ticking down till the boy arrives! How exiciting!

Wivi

13-02-2007, 11:46

Howdy everyone.

Yep - Will had a great time at child care although I have to say that I don't think he ate one thing while he was there! But they did tell me not to worry about that - apparently "grazing" for toddlers is the norm in the day. They also said that Day 2 for daycare is often the most difficult and Troy said that Will started to cry when he dropped him off. Apparently it was all over before Troy go to the car though so not much of a protest there!

I called in to see the baby nurse for the first time in a couple of months before I came home too - Will now weighs 11.6kg and is 83cm long! The weight has slowed down a lot (also normal) but he just keeps getting longer and longer.

Will was asleep well before we got home today - the nurse also said it was very normal for toddlers to be more tired and that Will is just sleeping like a dream!

So I am now a happy, much less worried mum.

MrsMiggins

13-02-2007, 14:08

Hayley, I am so envious of you that this is the first time you've had to be worried about Trent not showing up at home when he said he would!!! OMG, Dave does it every day!!!! And I am actually not exaggerating - it's a HUGE bone of contention in this house, I can tell you! At least he's gotten better at actually answering his mobile when it rings. He used to have it on silent all the time, so that he could have it on while he was at work, so I'd call a thousand times in a row & he'd just never hear it! Sooooooooo frustrating!!!

Now he's just always at least an hour or two later than he says he's going to be! On the very rare occasions he's back at the time he's meant to be (or I think perhaps one time, he was even earlier! :eek:) I genuinely got a shock to see him walk through the door! :laughing:

He honestly has absolutely zero concept of time and it drives me crazy!!!

I'm glad he was OK anyway - hope you got right up him for it!!

Cath, those pics of Paddy are just sooooo incredibly gorgeous!!! What a happy little boy!! Funny you should say he didn't want to get up out of his cot - Claire has been doing the same thing for a while now. Moreso in the afternoon than the morning. In the morning it's easier to get her up because all I have to do is mention her bottle & she's outta there like a bolt of lightning! In the afternoons, she just wants to play & runs away from me (well, as much as she can inside her cot!) when I try to pick her up. If she's not ready, she'll actually wriggle & scream until I put her back in! Which I wouldn't mind so much if she was happy to just sit in there playing on her own, but when she won't let me leave, it's a bit of a problem! Or when we have somewhere to be. I have to try bribing her!

I'm so glad Paddy is sleeping better for you now too. I meant to offer you my hugest sympathies when he was having those horror nights! I know only too well how horrible that is!

Tan, I hope Will gets out of his little mood quick-smart! Wow! I can't believe how tall he is!! Claire is such a little shorty! I haven't had her weighed or measured in ages. Not since her last lot of needles. Do you guys still all see the CHN regularly? Mine told me at the 12m visit that I didn't need to come in again until Claire was 18m old, unless I had some specific concerns in the meantime.

Hey, guess what?! It's not hot here today!!! WOO-HOO!!!!! It's been raining pretty steadily since last night and it's so wonderful not to be sitting around sweating like a pig all day!!

cath

13-02-2007, 14:30

Hayley so sorry to hear about your bad night of sleep. Have you had a nap today? What's with us insomniacs -there's a few of us in this group. I slept well last night - yay!! Hopefully you will tonight.

Fi I have an appt. with the CHN tomorrow which is an optional 15 month one. She told me at 12 months that I didn't need to come back until 18 months but could come back at 15 months if I wanted. I'm always interested to find out Paddy's growth and usually have something I want to chat about so made the appt. for 15 months. Tomorrow I will be bringing up his fussy eating - do I just let him eat fruit and yoghurt or offer him his meal and if he doesn't want it then bad luck? He is eating his dinner properly sometimes but then some nights just refuses (and still no luck with sandwiches/finger food). I also want to check out if we can hire a baby capsule for baby 2.

Tan good to hear Will survived another day of child care.

Fi I think the heat has moved to Melbourne. We are in for a hot week -yucko. We never got that A/C and now we have run out of money so maybe next year.

Better go. Chat soon.

Cath

MrsMiggins

13-02-2007, 14:40

OMG guys!!!!

I was just sitting here at my computer going through some of the tonnes of cr@p around the office space while I was waiting for one of my windows to load, and I found an envelope with some old photos in it.

This is going to be my new inspiration for losing all my baby weight (from both PG's!!) in a couple of months time! :yes:

Skinny Fiona...! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/fiona_t/InspirationShot.jpg)

This photo was taken about 5 years ago when a friend & I did a Hunter Valley wine tour.

BTW, I've also recently decided to have all my hair cut short again (it's been driving me crazy & I'm sick of it!) & this pic has my hair exactly how I wanted it done! (Although it was black there & I'm over the black!)

OK, I'm off to go stick this photo up on the fridge (and better make myself some lunch too, considering it's 2.30!! :eek:)

Wivi

13-02-2007, 14:49

Nope Fi - Will is still as grumpy as all get up with me! I hope this doesn't last long.

Funny you should mention the cot thing - Will doesn't want to get out of his in the afternoon either. I just make him - I don't have time to fuss around. He's usually over it by the time we get out of his room but it's a strange thing that's for sure!

Does anyone have any toddler books that they can recommend? I don't have any and I feel a bit lost with Will sometimes.

Oh something else I have been meaning to ask people. When do you guys clean your kids teeth? Especially at night. Is it before or after the night time bottle? Geez i wish Will would drink milk out of a cup, I tried again today and he spat it at me.

I only went to the nurse because I was curious about Will's growth. I suspected he had gotten taller and I was right - a while 2cm! I don't really go for any other reason. She is also just in our local chemist and you don't need an appt, you just drop in.

hayleylea

13-02-2007, 15:03

Hey guys

Fi i havent been to the CHN since the last lot of needles either! i keep meaning too but just never get around to it!

Tan I brush Coopers teeth at bath time so before his bed time bottle (i think they say to do it afterwards but by that time he isnt in the mood to brush his teeth!) I also brush Coopers most mornings after breakkie!

Fi - you look great in that pic you put up! Goodluck with the weight loss after the boy!

My little boy has been an angel today - i was just going through some stuff in the shed and found a baby born doll (that was in amongst the stuff in his $5 cubby) he saw it and thought it was wonderfull. It was a bit dirty so i got out a bucket and put water on it and got a face cloth and told Cooper to bath the dolly - he was so cute and had the best fun. He is still out there playing with her while daddy is cleaning the shed lol. He is also very amused with the torch - Great idea to keep a toddler entertained thats for sure!

Anyway i better go check on them. Talk soon!

bingo

13-02-2007, 19:40

Hi guys, well its been hectic but I finally have some time to get on here and type away. I managed to catch up with Anna on MSN the other night and it was terrific, been way too long Anna.
Hayley that is so cute that Cooper was bathing dolly. I was reading about your concerns about socialising Cooper. Although Maddi goes to creche and playgroup and all that stuff she is still shy with new people. And I don't think its a bad thing. There are just some people she won't warm to and some people she just loves right away. I've also found that it also depends on what mood she's in at that moment.
Tan, Will is soooo tall! I haven't had maddi measured in a while so I have no idea how tall she is these days. Only another couple of months until her 18month check so we'll find out then. Its great you don't have to make an appointment with your nurse. Ours only works Monday - Wednesday which is a real hassle for me seeing as those are the days I work too! How tiring is it when these kids get the grumps! Some days you just need to top up that glass of wine and have a few more sips to mellow it down a bit.
Fi, great photo! But I also think you look gorgeous right now. I remember when I was 38 weeks pregga's with Maddi I had all my hair cut off too. Nesting? When you go quiet on here now we'll all be thinking "oh is she in hospital?? Is it DS's BIRTHDAY today!!!". And my DH is a total gumby at time management as well!!! I swear I spend half my life waiting for him. And the more I nag the worse it gets.
Cath, Maddi is going through a real food phase too. When she refuses her dinner I do give her yogurt and fruit. But I'll be keen to hear what your nurse recommends. As for a baby capsule a lady in my mothers group is looking at baby seats ect and the shop told her to get a toddler booster seat for her #1 as they last a lot longer and the baby can go into the old car seat. Did that make sense?
Anna, how are you feeling? Did you see your OB and ask more questions about a ceaser? That avatar you have at the moment is too cute. The girls are so damn pretty. I nearly cried when I read that Immy started walking while you were away. I hope your friend really appreciates what you gave up to go dress shopping with her in the sweltering heat. It sounds like you and Fi really hit it off up there.
Well my ear is totally blocked and I'm now on antibiotics to help clear it up. I also got a second opinion on my hernia and I am going to an ultrasound in a couple of weeks. Can you believe that the waiting time for an ultrasound is 2 weeks here in Bendigo!!! So I have to wait that long to see how things really are.
I'm going for a job interview thingy on Thursday. I'm not sure you'd call it an iterview though. I rang up this company that does kids photography party plan things in peoples houses. They are looking for more photographers. They are keen to meet me and see what I think. I'm keen to know about salary ect. They sound pretty relaxed as they said I could work any hours I wanted and take Maddi with me. So we'll see what happens and what the exact conditions are.
Well I'm dog tired and need an early night. One more day of work and its 4 days off for me~

nkenward

13-02-2007, 21:10

Hi all,

I just did a quick catch up.

Hayley - glad to hear Trent got home ok. Yeah I am with you - I worry sick when I don't know where Troy is. He once decided to go for a skate - but didn't call to let me know. I waited 2 hours - then called around - work/mobile/friends - no one knew where he was. He then he finally answered his mobile - 3.5 hours later - I was beside myself - I could have killed him.

Fi - you look great in that photo - but you look great now. But I too have some inspiration to lose weight - but I will wait till after no. 2 I think. The Biggest Loser always gets me in - I just need more motivation in the food dept.

Cath - that was so cute of Paddy in his cot. I wish Connor enjoyed his cot like that. Nope - he can't wait to get out.

Tania - good luck with the whole book thing. I have a couple of small books for Connor and one big one with nursery rhymes in it - but he won't sit still any longer than a minute. And he just puts them in his mouth.
It is so funny to hear all the bubs like to be in their cots. Connor cries when he wakes up - and is miserable if left in there for any extra time.

Lou - thanks for some ideas re: toilet training. I can't keep Connor on the potty long enough yet. I am sure we will get there eventually. We will keep at it. He does understand the word 'potty' though. Good luck with the job interview thing.

I was reading Hayley how you wish to socialise Cooper. I think a playgroup would be a great idea to see how he goes. However, as Lou mentioned some kids are shy - some aren't. But Cooper from what I can see and read about him - I don't think you will have a problem socialising him at all. Connor at the moment goes to the creche at the gym twice a week for an hour, and then we have mother's group every fortnight. He loves mixing with other kids. Even in a trolley today - he is waving and blowing kisses to anyone who paid him attention. However, I think I would have a problem - if a stranger offered their attention - he would be quite happy to go home with them.

Anyway Connor was up at 4:30 this morning - I am buggered. I have just come back from our Swing Dancing class - and I am ready for bed. We have been practicing a group routine for a performance in a couple of weeks. I will glad when it is over.

Anyway I hope all is well with everyone. Oh I forgot to welcome Kara - hope to hear more from you soon - also this thread becomes very addictive - we chat you fingers off!!

Katcha

13-02-2007, 22:32

Hey everyone, just a quick post tonight. I haven't had a chance to get on here much in the last week...been way too busy with work.
Anyway, I think I said before that Katelyn had recently started climbing onto the couch.....well, she's now climbing right onto the top of the couch now, which is a big problem necause the couch is directly under an opening in the wall between the TV room & the kitchen. So we have found her climbed right over & onto the kitchen bench!!!:eek: So now we can't even leave her alone in the TV room because she'll just end up in the kitchen. Which is a pain in the bum when we need to do other things.
Tan, about the teeth brushing, I brush Katelyn's teeth (all 2 of them :p ) straight after she's finished her dinner. I don't wait till after her bedtime bottle becuase sometimes she just falls asleep as soon as she's finished the bottle.
Anyway, that's all for now....off to watch All Saints. Yay, it's back! :smiliedance:

MrsMiggins

13-02-2007, 22:37

Evening ladies!!

Tania, Claire has a bazillion books... and counting!! I think every time I go to the shops I pick up another one or two! It's getting somewhat ridiculous (well, trying to find room for them all is!), but I figure you can never have too many books & Claire just loves them! She knows all her favourites and will make the right sounds on the right pages and will often sit & read them to herself. I tell you what - have a look for the Wibbly Pig books by Mick Inkpen. There are a whole heap of them ranging from board books to big paper ones. The pictures are just beautiful and the stories are so lovely! Every time we go the library, we always get a couple. Claire also likes any song that's turned into a book (Mum & Dad got her The Wheels on the Bus" book for Christmas and it's one of her favourites) and anything with lift-the-flaps & things like that. Do you have a local library nearby? I say head down there one day and let Will have a browse around (if you can't get there during the day, many libraries have extended opening hours one or two nights a week, and some are open on weekends). I'm sure you'll find plenty you like and then you can take them home & see which ones he likes over a couple of weeks (our library lets you borrow up to 20 books for 2 weeks at a time, plus you can renew for another 2 weeks up to 3 times - good if you find some they really like!) I'm finding with Claire at the moment, she really likes books with big, colourful pictures, not too long and not too many words on a page. Board books are great, as are books with thick pages - especially made for toddlers (we recently got a great one called "Hippo Gets A Hat, but I've forgotten who it's by).

Sorry to go on there! I'm a bit passionate about books! :D

Toothbrushing! Funny you should ask about that! I was only thinking about it as I was putting Claire to bed tonight! She does brush her teeth in the bath, which means it's before her bottle, but there is no way I can get her to do it afterwards, as she uses her bottle to go to sleep! Ce' la vie! There is no way I'm giving her milk out of a cup then either. Way too much hassle!! I don't see what difference it makes (bottle vs cup) when she'd take just as long to drink it out of a cup as a bottle! She also will often brush her teeth in the morning when I do mine.

Just on that guys - we were chatting ages & ages ago about tooth brushing & at the time, Claire was going through a difficult stage with it. I have since then discovered a way around it, and she's even let me have a quick go (sometimes!!) What I've been doing is to give her a toothbrush (she has 6!) and tell her to brush her teeth. When she does it, I blow bubbles for her. When she stops, I put the bubbles away, when she starts again, she gets more! It works an absolute treat, I can tell you!!

Hayles, I must've missed that bit about socialising Cooper.... or PG brain's got me!! I can't remember what that was about! We go to playgroup & also to storytime at the library. Claire has friends from that & we also go to bubhub meets quite regularly. I think she's always been fairly social though. She's certainly not shy, in any case! I don't think it's anything we've done - it's just the way she is. Even when she's being really clingy, she's still not shy. I've actually noticed at Playgroup & at storytime, that most kids are happy to sit with their mums, or at least play nearby, but I'm forever chasing Claire around & calling her to come back to me! She pays no attention of course, but she really wears me out! The quietest she gets is when we go somewhere new for the first time & she will stand there, very serious look on her face for a few minutes, surveying the situation... and then I can't stop her! She's into everything! I've also noticed that when other kids take toys off her, she just goes & gets something else - doesn't faze her one bit! Which is great, but on the other hand, she also thinks nothing of taking toys from other kids and they will often carry on a bit, but she's oblivious! I have to keep a close eye on her!

Lou, I've been seriously considering cutting my hair short again for a while now. I do it all the time - cut it short, grow it out, cut it short again.... I just get bored with it! I have had it longer for ages now though & I was telling Dave the other day that it's pointless having long hair if it's always tied back & always looks a complete mess because I don't have time to blow dry & straighten it every day. And if I don't have time now, what hope do I have once The Boy is born?? May as well just get it cut short! I can always grow it again if I want to (and probably will at some point!) My hair grows like a weed!

You may be right about the nesting though! I am obsessed with making sure everything's in order for when The Boy arrives! Not that I've been really into cleaning or anything (that'd take a miracle much greater than nesting!!) but I have been doing much more than usual, and have also been making sure all the baby stuff is ready. I've been making lists of everything I need to do and stuff I want organised, as well as writing out Claire's day & night routines for mum & dad for when we have to dash off to the hospital!

Ooh! Your ear sounds painful! You're not having a very good time of it at the moment, are you?! Your ankle (how's that going, BTW?), your suspected hernia, your ear! I can only hope Maddi is being a good little sleeper for you! That's ages you have to wait for the u/s! I hope you're OK in the mean time!

Good luck for Thursday!!! :fingerscrossed: The job sounds awesome!! What is it you do now? It's nothing like that job, is it?

Nat, swing dancing sounds like sooooo much fun!!! Have you been doing it very long? I always thought I'd love to have lived in the 40's! I'd have always been at the dance clubs, listening to the big bands & swing dancing!! Oh how much fun would that have been?! I recently found out that my mum's mum used to be right into all that during the war. She's English and used to go to all the dance clubs with the military men - I believe it's how she met my grandfather, actually! I hope Connor sleeps in a little longer for you in the morning!

Have a good night ladies!!

Wivi

14-02-2007, 06:51

Morning everyone. I was so confused when I was reading your posts - wondering why everyone was talking about books for Will! I had to go back and read my post and then I remembered. I actually meant "parenting" books!!! HAHA! Will loves his books and we have heaps. Just lately he has been getting books out a lot and coming up to us to read them to him. It's very cute. But thank you all for your helpful suggestions. I will look for some of those books you mentioned though - I will need new books for the plane trip at Easter.

Fi -what a mammoth post. Oh and it was great to see a picture of you before a baby! I love the short hair too. Although I think you look fine now, you looked good then too. I don't think I really look much different pre and post baby - just older with frown lines! I really must stop frowning.

Oh my Nat - Connor is such an early bird. I hope when you are having #2 that DH gets up for him and you can have some more sleep!

Katelyn's Mum - you have a regular little explorer there don't you? Will tries to climb onto our couch but it is very big and he isn't always able to manage it. When he does though we have been very consistent with telling him to sit down on it and he gets into trouble if he stands up and climbs on it. Don't worry though - I don't think that it is working! He'd do it if we weren't there.

I have had a bit of a chat to the nurses etc about food too. Most of them tell me that toddlers are just fussy and not to make a big deal out of it. They also told me to stop worrying that Will doesn't eat much for lunch, apparently that is very common and there is nothing wrong with "grazing" all day although I am still going to put Will in his high chair at lunch time because I want him to get the idea about meals. Apparently it is more important to look at the whole week rather than each day in terms of what they eat.

I'm starving - off to have some breaky. I can't believe this, Will is still in bed! Although I can guarantee that as soon as I put the milk on my cereal he will yell out!

hayleylea

14-02-2007, 07:07

Hey guys

Happy valentines day to all the girls from Cooper (for those of you with messenger you may have recieved something in your email today from Cooper ;) so take a look - Sorry if i missed anyone if i did it means i didnt have your email addy!)

Trent and I dont make too much of a fuss over Valentines day but we do get each other a little gift and a card. Trent got me a new gold chain for my locket he got me for christmas...(ive just been using and old one i had) So that was pretty sweet. He also got me the most beautiful card! i got him a pair of boxers that say Will you be my cheeky monkey - Trent calls me Monkey so i thought it was pretty cool, it also came with a stuffed monkey and you press its hand and it says I love you....AWWWW Can you feel the love? :laughing:

Cooper woke up at 7 again this morning. Im guessing my sleepy head isnt such a sleepy head anymore lol. He did stay playing in his cot till 7.30 though so thats OK. As for socialising Cooper Fi, i just mentioned it in a few posts back. He is very shy but i have found its only when he wants to be :rolleyes: Nat he is also like Connor and waves and blows kisses to everyone when he is in the trolley shopping. We have only just started going back to play group so he might be OK once we go for a couple of weeks - we are going there today. I think he is just going through a clingy stage. He is right with people he knows and once he gets settled in somewhere.

Tan i havent got any reviews on Toddler books because i havent personally read them but the one "toddler taming" i have seen pop up in a few places if that helps?!

We are getting the slab done for our brand spankin' new varandah today at our house! YAY!

Also with the brushing Teeth thing. Cooper is great brusing his teeth now. He lets or trent brush them - to the point he actually opens his mouth up wide and just waits for us to finish! I then give him a glass of water and he rinses his mouth lol. Its so cute. After we have finished we give him the toothbrush and he has a go himself.

Katelyns mum - Cooper is a climber too! He scares me sometimes cause he gets up on things and lets go and starts jumping! lol

Anyway better start getting organised for play group.

Wivi

14-02-2007, 07:56

ALRIGHT - BIG ANNOUNCEMENT!!!

WILL DID A POO ON THE POTTY!

Can you believe it? It was just like Lou said - he grunted and Troy asked him if he needed to go to the potty and he pointed at the bathroom! So down we went, sat him on it and read a book and lo and behold - a poo! Woohoo!!!

I won't get too excited cause he hasn't done another wee since Sunday but hey - it's a pretty exciting start!

Happy Valentines Day everyone!

hayleylea

14-02-2007, 11:23

:yelclap: Will!! VERY CLEVER! Thats sooo Good Tan!

Well i dont know why i was worried about socialising Cooper - Today at playgroup he had an absolute ball and couldnt have cared less if i was ther eor not. He joined in with all the kids and had a really good time! He is just having some lunch now and then off to bed for him...he should sleep for awhile because he hasnt stopped all morning!

Talk soon guys!

Moorish

14-02-2007, 11:31

OMG!!! WELL DONE WILL! WHAT A BIG BOY YOU ARE!!
WOW Tan! How'd you get him to do that?! That's incredible!!!

Hi Kara - welcome to our little group. We may be small but we chat up a storm and we're all very friendly! Congrats on the BFP! There's a few of us mums due again, I'm onto my 4th (and last).

Tan - thanks for your comments about the parenting - not that we can help what the kids look like but funnily enough they all look like Shane! What the??! Surely THIS one has to look like me? I mean bring on a little boy with olive skin, dark hair and green eyes! Ooh there'll be fights with the girls' girlfriends! LOL! I've spoken to you over msn a bit so I won't repeat. But I think you're doing a truely marvellous job with Will - he's a clever, happy, gorgeous little boy and don't worry about the sleeping/routine thing at the moment, it's sure to be just a phase and as he "grows into" his 1 nap a day, his routine will slowly change yet again.
Great to hear that you were reassured by the CHN by the way - hope you can rest easy now!

Fi - I've done 2 in nappies and it's no drama at all. By the time my kids were toddlers they were only going through 3-4 a day anyway which is nothing really. Funnily enough everyone put a lot of pressure on me to get the eldest toilet trained but as much as I tried they were never ready, so even though my girls were about 3 when they finally TT-ed, they picked it up fast and within 2 weeks they were also night trained which is really good. So the extra time they were in nappies was made up for the fact that they rarely had accidents and I didn't need to do the whole night nappy thing - all of which I will do with Immy too. I've learned not to listen to everyone else - you know your child and they'll get it when they're ready. P.S. What's a pee-wee?

Hayles - lucky I found you another Ted - just in time by the sounds of it! Has he arrived yet? What an adventure thru the caves! We have Hastings Caves down south here and they have a thermal pool on site as well - it's so scerene surrounded by tall tall trees and nature walks. Hmm. . . might have to take the girls there this weekend!

Cath - great to hear that Paddy broke his pattern! Been thinking of you! I'll tell you more about my panic further down. I hope you get your sleep and stop worrying about if Paddy is going to wake up though! I'm like that with a newborn - I sleep so lightly because what's the point, you're only going to be up in 3 hours anyway! Having said that, I was like that with Chelsea & Nicola but totally slept through Immy as she got older! LOL! Oh and VERY cute photos - haven't seen a pic of Paddy for a while - he's so grown up now!

Fi I saw the skinny Fiona pic and I think you're being too hard on yourself! You're 9 months pregnant for goodness sake! Give it a couple of weeks after the boy is born and I think you'll lose a lot just in fluid alone! Oh and have you chopped your hair since we met? Coz I didn't think it was that short!

Lou - it was absolutely WONDERFUL to catch up with you the other day! We SO need to meet up sometime! I think we could seriously talk the day away! I think the whole shyness thing is just the age - Immy is fairly outgoing but cautious about new people. HOWEVER! Having said that, the girls and I walked up the road on Sunday to check out an open home and I let Immy walk around inside. There was another mum & dad with an 18mth old girl and Immy walked straight up to the dad and put her hands up to be picked up! :eek: She then put her head on his shoulder and cuddled him for about 3 mins! :laughing: We all just wet ourselves laughing - thank goodness the dad was a "family man" sort of guy and didn't seem to mind at all. Gave me the shock of my life that's for sure! Ooo I must remember to tell Shane about that! (he was playing golf).
By the way I nearly wet myself at your "Dh is a TOTAL GUMBY" comment! I haven't heard that for ages! Thanks for giving me a huge laugh - I'm going to use that on DH as soon as I can! LOL!:laughing:

I can't believe you have to wait for 2 weeks for an ultrasound! Is there somewhere else you can go? Surely Bendigo isn't that small? Oh and I know this isn't the same - but I had HEAPS of trouble with my ears blocking on the flight from Syd-QLD so much so that in tears I begged my friend Claire to take me to the chemist at 6pm desperate for them to give me something. The only thing that was suitable for me (oh preggy one) was a saline spray which I reluctantly bought and used. It was CR@P using it but 3 hours later my ears had improved and one had actually popped. Dunno if you could use that temporarily to unblock your ears?

ctu.

Moorish

14-02-2007, 11:44

Ok, so what's new with us? Well not much. Except, like Lou has mentioned, I had a freak out again about labour the other day and I was picking her brain over epidurals & c-sections. I was deadly serious (well, about 97%) about considering a c-section for this baby. I'm coming to realise that I've actually been left far more traumatised from Immy's labour than I thought. I'm ok at the moment but after getting some very valuable info from Lou I know that I definately want a normal labour if possible with NO epidural, NO drugs and NO c-section unless medically necessary (which has been my plan with each anyway).

I'm having a lot of trouble with believing I can do another labour. I've spoken to a few lovely people about my fears (thanks some of you guys for listening!) and I've decided that instead of going into detail with my Ob (who's not going to be there til the end anyway) I'm going to book a double appointment with a midwife at the hospital (no kids) and discuss my birth plan in detail. I'm going to ask them to look back on my records and answer as many questions as they can.

I think that MOST of this has stemmed from not getting enough answers through and after Immy's labour. I wasn't told she was posterior, I wasn't told why I was in so much pain, or why I felt like I was going to "poo" her out instead of the normal way (TMI but laugh away!) I was told that if they didn't break my waters then I'd have been labouring for hours longer - one thing they're not supposed to do in a hurry with posterior as the baby comes down and makes it longer & harder to turn. My ob didn't give me many answers as she wasn't even there and the midwife didn't either. So I have this terrible fear that the same thing is going to happen again.

I've decided no drugs - as I said to Lou - I've always wanted to be in total control, and I even couldn't stand having the gas as I felt completely high and out of it. And epi scares the sh!t out of me and always has so that's not an option, pethadine did jack-all with Chelsea and was only given to help me sleep during contractions. So I'm left with my bloody tens machine which I've never used & I'm not putting much faith in.

I'm also very very tired and I'm going to be even more so by the end of June so I just simply cannot comprehend being able to do this again. I'm so sorry for all this - I feel such an expectation to "keep it together" and that I should be fine with it all - after all, it's my 4th for crying out loud, I should know what I'm doing by now.

Ok I've blabbed long enough and I'm so so so sorry to dump all this - this has been several weeks in the coming but I'm so thankful for all you guys hearing me out and being so supportive. I have a feeling there'll be a few more freakouts before July but :fingerscrossed: and pray that once I get some answers from the hospital then things will start to settle down and I'll have more confidence in myself.

Better go feed my poor kiddies!
xoxo

cath

14-02-2007, 12:34

Hi all,
Anna that's so wrong you weren't told Immy was posterior. If you have an explanation for things it often makes them so much more manageable. Even though this is your 4th labour it is still a scary thing - they are so unpredicable and really not much fun so you are fully within your rights to be worried about it. However you will get through it -unfortunately we have no choice do we - the baby has to come out somehow (oh to be a man!!). You are a strong, capable woman who does a fantastic job of managing your family and it is a moment in time you will get through and finally get to meet your olive skinned boy. Hey did you sell your old car?

Tan Paddy is now 83cm too but is a hefty 12.6 kilos (no wonder my lower back is aching by the end of the day). The nurse said if he doesn't eat his dinner don't offer him anything else and pack it up and that's the end of the meal (will I be strong enough to do it - don't like to think of my boy going to bed hungry). She said if he was really hungry he would eat it and he will learn that if he wants to eat he has to eat what is offered. Tan Paddy eats a small lunch too - a small tub of yoghurt and either some of or all of a small tub of fruit. Some other kids eat this for morning tea then have a big lunch after that. She said he is obviously getting enough food and if they have a decent breakfast (which Paddy does) that often gets them through most of the day. No real answers on getting him to eat finger food -just keep trying and it is a stage. I hope he is a finger food boy by the time baby 2 arrives -would save so much time if he could jsut have a sandwich. Good work with the potty Will!!

Lou hope you are feeling okay -you have been having a rough trot. Thanks for the tip about hte second car seat but I am going the capsule for baby 2 in the hope that we can sometimes transfer a sleeping baby out of the car (never could with Paddy because getting him out of the car seat harness always woke him up and that was it - no going back to sleep).

Fi you looked great in that old photo but I agree with the others that you also look great now. I am still on the elusive search for a hair style that I like - still haven't found it -wish I just had good hair. Does Claire pull the flaps off the flap books - Paddy loves them too but is so rough and ends up pulling them off so the books get ruined - drives me nuts. Paddy was looking at a book at the CHN appt this morning and saw a picture of an apple and said "apple" - I was so proud of his one word (actually he has said bird this week to pictures of birds too but then started calling them apples -still a long way to go).

I asked if his push along walker was deterring him from walking (he is no longer half walking - more like 1/4 walking and 3/4 crawling) and she said it wasn't. She said he just wasn't either physically of mentally ready to totally take off yet. He did a bit of walking there this morning and she said it won't be long. His pants are getting holes in the knees so I would love for him to be walking to save some clothes.

Nat that is a very early start to the day -poor thing. My plan is to lose weight after baby 2 too (however that was also my plan after having Paddy -didn't happen).

Renee (is that the right name Katelyn's Mum?) Paddy is a climber too - very scary. He can't be left unattended for too long now. We have to pull the chair away from the computer desk because he gets up there a dozen times a day and creates havoc if he can reach the desk so he just gets to sit on the chair in the middle of the room.

Hayley very cute story about Cooper washing the doll. Did you sleep last night?

Anyway better go and get some stuff done while the boy is asleep. Chat soon.

Cath

hayleylea

14-02-2007, 12:41

:hugs: Anna and feel free to have as many freak outs as you want! Labour is a huge terrifying experience and I dont think it will ever get easier how ever many you have. Each one is so difference and unpredictable. Just stick with your plan and take it each step at a time...unfortunatley sometimes your plan doesnt always work out but aslong as you have it set in your mind what you want then you will just soldier on through it! Im know next time round ill be terrified of giving birth...mine was a pretty hard labour with Cooper (a whole 36 hours worth of pain and agony!) but the end result is well worth it. Ill keep my fingers and toes crossed that you breeze through this birth (and that goes for you all you other pregnant ladies!)

ETA: Cath - yes i slept like a dream last night!!! Cath I thought that Coopers push along walker was deterring Cooper from walking a bit too. I didnt give it to him as much but i agree with the CHN he will do it when he is ready. He knows how too you just have to keep building his confidence up and make a big deal out of it when he does it so he thinks his clever!

Moorish

14-02-2007, 12:44

Thanks for your words Cath - I think I know that deep down I can do it - but it's only just recently that all this cr@p has surfaced and I didn't realise until now how traumatised I was.

I 100% agree with the advice from the Health Nurse - if my kids fuss at dinner time (incl Immy) they don't get offered anything else. Having said that - they all go through their phases and as they grow their appetites lessen in comparison to how much they were eating before during growth spurts etc.

Also, try not to stress about the walking - Chelsea was 15 1/2 months before she was up on her feet and it took her about a month to really get it and walk constantly. I have 3 kids who've done 3 different things so am testimony that "every kid is different"!

Nope we haven't sold our car yet - we've been slack with advertising it as we only got back weekend before last so there was no point advertising if we weren't here. The ads are going in the trading post etc this week so :fingerscrossed: for some response!

cath

14-02-2007, 12:46

Tan I meant to say that my Mum gave me "Toddler Taming" by Christopher Green and said it was a good book - I think that's the one Hayley mentioned too. I haven't read it yet but it mightbe worth looking at.

Moorish

14-02-2007, 13:15

LOL! Cath I have that book too - not that I've read it either! But I fought for it on eBay so I'd better take a look sooner or later!

MrsMiggins

14-02-2007, 13:22

Hi guys!! You are all so chatty in the mornings!! :laughing:

Anna, I really have no words of wisdom for you now, not ever having been through labour myself, but feel free to chat to me in a couple of weeks time!! :D It is very daunting, I think - no matter how many times you've been through it before. Every PG, every birth, every baby is so different.

Tan, YAY FOR WILL!!! That's very exciting!! I'm glad the CHN was able to put your mind at ease re: Will's eating too. Toddlers are definitely fussy eaters - even Claire (who'll pretty much eat anything) has days where she just doesn't seem to want anything. She's generally best at dinner time, but some days I'll offer her something I know she likes, and she won't want a bar of it. Other days she can't get enough! I do try to look it over the course of a week or so though, rather than each individual day. I'm quite sure she's not lacking!

Cath, I have to admit I'm not about to send Claire to bed hungry either - no matter what she gets up to at dinner! I mean, if it's pretty clear she's not interested that's one thing, but if she is hungry and she's mucking around, I try to find a different way to do it. The other night for instance, she was shoving her food around all over her tray until it all fell on the floor, and would then want more. So we took the tray off and fed her that way. If she starts throwing her fork around instead of using it to eat her food, we just take the fork off her. And then she gets stroppy because she doesn't want to eat with her hands, but she realises if she's not going to do that, then she will go hungry, so she eventually eats.

Good luck with it!

Oh, I was going to post more, but Claire's just woken up! Better go - she sounds impatient today!!

Moorish

14-02-2007, 13:37

Fi -you too could give me heaps of advice about c-sections and epi's though! So next time we chat, I'd love to hear your point of view too - I learned SO much from Lou.

BTW girls, my beloved car is getting fixed today - all $60 worth. So I'll feel much happier when it comes home!

Hey, so I was thinking of *trying* to make an effort and making a nice dinner tonight for Shane and I. I have the kids meal ready to cook (a pasta bake) and was thinking of doing a sweet potato risotto. What sort of meat should I cook with it? We're more of a pasta family but I can't go past a good creamy risotto! Any suggestions would be great! :thumbsup:

cath

14-02-2007, 14:14

I love risotto!! Are you putting the meat in it or alongside it? If you are putting it in I would do a prosciutto/pancetta - something salty. Alongside maybe some chicken? I used to make risotto all the time before Paddy but now can't be bothered standing there stirring for 45 minutes at that time of night. I have to find more ovenbaked risotto recipes - I love any type of risotto. I was meant to have our dinner prepared by now but the day has got away from me. We will be having Thai Green Chicken Curry Pies if I get around to it.

Moorish

14-02-2007, 14:23

Ooh! Cath! You go with the risotto! I was thinking of roasting some sweet potato and putting in some finely chopped onion, garlic and panchetta (if my butcher has it -otherwise bacon will do). Keeping it simple then marinading some chicken breast and slow cooking it or something.

OTHERWISE: I'll do a roast veggie stack (potato, roast potato, zucchini etc) with garlic and rosemary, then have it with a nice slow cooked piece of steak with a red wine jus (if I can figure out how to make that!) Hmm... thinking go the red meat actually - craving it now!

cath

14-02-2007, 14:27

All sounds fantastic -now you are making me hungry. I'm trying to get myself motivated to get out to the shops - such an effort. Food might get me there - got to go and get something nice now.

bingo

15-02-2007, 09:23

Wow its been busy here, I don't know why I'm so surprised:D . Yay for Will doing poo in the potty. Thats very exciting. I bet he was pretty happy with himself for being so clever.
I can't be long on here as Maddi is chucking a wobbly and wants to go to bed so I'll be right back.

bingo

15-02-2007, 10:43

OK I'm back!
Nat, will Connor sit on his potty if his favourite tv show is on? That has worked for us in the past as well as sing a longs, reading books and me making faces. The things we do :laughing: .
Swing dancing sounds like heaps of fun, I bet you get a really good workout doing that! Is your performance in a concert? good luck with it all.
Katelyn sounds very athletic with all those climbing skills. I'm a big all saints fan too. I cried during this weeks episode. Do you think that Kate has really left or if she coming back? I hope not as she's one of my fav's. Oh listen to me, I'm such the addict.
Fi bubble blowing sounds like a fantastic way to encourage toothbrushing. I'll have to give that one a go soon. Maddi brushes her teeth in the bath but the quality of that brushing sesssion is debateable. My ankle is still a bit sore but its not troubling me that much. I think its just all the ligaments being over stretched. Maddi's sleeping was doing really well but last night she was up every few hours and not happy. At 2am I got her up and gave her a rink of water and some neurofen and she was still unhappy. There is chickenpox going around creche so I'm hoping like billyo that she doesn't get that. Only 1.5months until the vaccination, so I'll be really p.o'd if she gets it before then.
Hayley how does your slab look? sounds like the veranda is really coming along. I am really anxious to see some after photo's of the palace once its all done.
Anna, meeting up would be fantastic. One day we'll do it! I can't believe Immy gave a total stranger a big hug. That goes to show what a gentle soul she is. I haven't used the Gumby word in a long time but it was the only word I could think of. God Bless Gumby! I don't know what is going on with Bendigo Healthcare at the moment. All the radiology places have 2-3 week waiting list. A few of the preggo girls I know here are heading down to Melbourne for their ultrasounds because of the wait. How crazy!
My ears are so blocked, but its an inner ear infection so no matter what i put in it externally its not coming out. I'm on some antibiotics to that the fluid won't get a bacterial infection. Man, its like one thing after the other around here lately.
I had to compile a portfolio last night to take into my interview this afternoon and I came across some photo's of Maddi (see avatar). I can't believe how small she looks! And it doesn't seem that long ago. I can't remember who asked but my regular job is a scientific one, my job title is validation officer. In a nutshell I make sure that everything in the company complies with regulatory bodies by testing processes and equipment for reliability. It drives me nuts! So yes I'm looking for something totally different to give me a bit of variety.
Maddi is still sleeping! I think she is tuckered out from her big performance last night.

hayleylea

15-02-2007, 11:32

Hey Guys..
Bingo - the slab looks great for the varandah. Its only for the old part of the house the rest will get done once we pour the slab for the extension. We put oxide into the cement to make it a dark charcoal colour to go with the roof and it looks awesome! Next week we hope to clad the front of the house with our hebel panels so that should look awesome! Ill definatley be posting some before and after pics..right now its a bit hard to see what we have actually done but once rooms are compleltley done ill post the before and after photos. We have totally transformed the house. Its looking good.

We went the back roads home through an old gold mining town. Cooper enjoyed looking at the moo cows ane he fell asleep at about 11 and woke up when we got home at about 12....which means id say we are in for a BIG afternoon with a cranky little man lol. He might suprise us though.

Lou, goodluck with the interview. That pic of Maddi is so cute. Its funny looking back how tiny they were. Latley Cooper looks so tall i cant wait to get him measured!

Gotta go Talk soon.

Wivi

15-02-2007, 11:58

Hey everyone! Just a quick post as I don't really have that much to say - nothing exciting here to report.

Lou - I forgot to say that job sounds great. If the pay is alright. I would do that kind of thing for a job if I could. Problem is that I get paid pretty well for doing what I do now and I don't think I would ever get DH to agree to me changing!

We sing songs and read books on the potty too. Will just loves his books at the moment. As soon as you go into his room to get him up from a sleep he points at the drawer where some of his books are kept and off we go. Yesterday I went to Angus and Robertson where they have this special at the moment, it's an empty box with a lid and you can fill the box with as many books as you can fit and still close it and you get the lot of $30! I managed to get 8 which I thought was pretty good but the saleswoman was telling me about this lady who somehow managed to squeeze $170.00 worth in there! I probably got about $50 worth I guess - maybe more.

Oh - I so hope Maddi isn't getting the chickenpox. I am counting down the days for that vaccine too. I don't know if I have ever mentioned this but I have never had the chickenpox myself and I am terrified of getting it, mybe when Will has his needle I will get one for myself. I also hope your ear feels better soon - I can really sympathise with you!

Anna - I am sorry you had a bad birth experience with Immy. I am so grateful that I had a positive experience, I am not frightened at all about birth anymore and yep, mine was totally drug free. My OB recommended a book called "New Active Birth" by Janet Balaskas and while I thought it was pretty funny at the time it was actually very good and I think some of the information/exercises etc in it may help you. The appt with the middies sounds good too - although I certainly found that not really having a birth plan was actually helpful. I just said I didn't want an epidural and I am terrified of pethidine because my Mum is allergic to it - but until they told me I was already 8cm dilated when I got to the hospital I was telling DH that I had changed my mind and wanted an epidural. Oh I was over the moon when they told me I was 8cm!

Anyway I should go and make some more work calls. Will is :sleeping: again, I swear he just likes being in bed. Man - he's going to be one of those teenagers that doesn't get up til midday and I won't know what to do with him!

hayleylea

15-02-2007, 12:24

Oh Tan I cant believe you havent had the chicken pox! I got them when i was 16 (in school holidays mind you! :banghead: ) it was horrible! they reckon its worse for adults - well so I have been told. They are horrid, im dreading the day that Cooper ever gets them..(hopefully he is like Tan and doesnt get them!)

Ive just put Cooper down for another sleep...i didnt think his little one in the car was enough and he soon let me know. He was out playing in the yard with daddy and come in a bit whingy and grabbed ted and laid his head down on my lap and closed his eyes! it was so cute and off to bed he went....

Anyways theres house work to be done (its never ending isnt it!)

MrsMiggins

15-02-2007, 12:37

Oh!!! Tania, I got so excited when I read your post about the book sale!!! I wish my local A&R would have a sale like that!!! :laughing:

Actually, I don't know whether or not they do, I haven't been up that way in a while - might be worth checking it out! :detective:

Tan, you can get the chicken pox vaccine, if you're not planning on falling PG within (I think it's) 6 months. My friend had her son vaccinated a few years ago and she had never had them either. Her Dr told her she could have the vaccine herself, but that she had to be careful not to fall PG within a certain time afterwards. He actually advised her that it was a very good idea to have the vaccine if she'd not had chicken pox. I had it when I was about 16. My younger brother brought it home from school & none of us had had it before. My older brother got it quite badly & was actually hospitalised for a few days (he got really sick) but I only had a couple of spots. Hardly even noticeable & I didn't feel sick at all. I have heard that if you only had it really mildly, then it's possible to get it again, but I don't think I'll worry about getting the vaccine myself. I will definitely get it for Claire though.

Hayley, I'm glad to hear Cooper has been so good with going down for his sleeps still! What did you end up making for dinner last night? Did you go with the lamb? It's funny actually, after I spoke to you, Dave came home & we went out for a grocery shop & Dave said he wanted my sweet potato mash! :laughing: What a coincidence!

Before I forget, for those of you who asked,THIS (http://www2.abc.net.au/science/birds/asp/query.asp?Action=Display&id=79) is a pee-wee (also known as a magpie lark). Very annoying creature!! lol

Lou, I'm glad Maddi has been sleeping better. I am sure having one off night here & there is bound to happen, so try not to get down about it (not that you sound that way) I hope your ankle feels better soon!

OK, I can only see a couple of posts up & I can't remember what else I wanted to say!

MrsMiggins

15-02-2007, 12:47

Lou, IKWYM about them looking so small! I got out some of Claire's newborn stuff yesterday to see what I could use for The Boy and she had a couple of size 0000 Bonds wondersuits that I can use. When we got them out, Dave & I were amazed that they were actually a little long for her when she was first born! I remember having to roll up the sleeves because her arms only came half way down & that her feet didn't quite reach the ends of the little feet in the suit! We held the suit up against her doll and it probably would have fit him! So hard to believe Claire was once the size of her dolly! :eek: I honestly don't remember her being that small! I'm looking forward to holding a lightweight, tiny little newborn again! I never thought Claire was all that light as a newborn (which I guess she really wasn't), but after lugging her around for the last 16 months, it's going to be a huge difference picking up a newborn again!

:fingerscrossed: Best of luck for your interview this afternoon!!! (Not that you'll be needing it! I'm sure you'll do just fine!)

Anna, I can probably give you a lot of info about c/s (if you're interested, definitely visit the c/s area of bubhub too - lots of info there) but not so much about epi's - I never had one, just a spinal. It is similar, but not the same. Plus, mine was a little different as my c/s was elective, rather than an emergency. I'm happy to chat with you about it though if you have any specific questions, or if you just want to have a natter about it!

Hayles, can't wait to see your house pics!

Ange, you still out there somewhere??

Moorish

15-02-2007, 12:58

Hey what'd I miss?!

I think I must have missed a whole bunch of posts because I didn't know that Nat was swing dancing (boy! I'd love to do that!), or that Katelyn was climbing heaps or what the heck i going on with all saints!! (Actually, I watched bits of it the other night and she does come back I think - I'm sure I saw her in the preview for next week!)
Oh well, I guess I couldn't keep up with them all!

Well of ALL nights for Immy to spit it completely it HAD to be last night. I was SO organised. I had the girls dinner ready to throw in the oven when Shane got home, then got busy preparing our meal. Shane fed the kids and got them into bed by 7:30 (early for the older two, late for Immy but she was happy). Immy wasn't having a BAR of it and screamed blue bloody murder for 1/2 hour. In the end dinner simply couldn't wait so we sat down to eat and after about 10 mins from when we checked her last she seemed to go to sleep. Cheeky girl must have known that mummy and daddy wanted some "mummy and daddy" time. :rolleyes: She's ok this morning though, we've been out at the shops so she hasn't had a morning nap and is about to go to bed.

Dinner was so yum! I made a roast veggie stack (potato, sweet potato, grilled zucchini, grilled asparagus & grilled spanish onion) with some LUSH slow grilled scotch fillet steak with a red wine jus that I made from scratch! As you can probably tell I was pretty damn proud of myself! For dessert we had marinated strawberries (in sugar and cointreau) with king island cream (O.M.G)

Nicola went back to pre-kinder today - she's in the Thurs morning session from 8:45 - 11:45 - makes for SUCH a busy morning! I got a couple of pics of her (I didn't think to get some pics of Chelsea's first day last year - oh well, Kinder is 5 sleeps! away!)
Nicola pre-kinder (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/GirlsFeb054.jpg)
Nicola pre-kinder 2 (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/GirlsFeb056.jpg)

Tan - I really hope the midwives can help me sort a few things out - I've always said that if I could have labours like Nicola's then I'd have 10 kids! :laughing:
Great about those books too by the way - I saw that deal and I was too afraid that I couldn't stuff enough in the box for my $30 worth! LOL! :laughing: Good on that lady for getting $170 worth in!

Lou - oh NO! I'll be hoping and praying that Maddi does NOT get chicken pox before she can get that immunisation. My mum use to let us play with sick kids all the time (hehe no, she's not a bad mother!), kids who had chicken pox, measles etc so we'd get it and never have it again. Well my brothers had their share of stuff but little ol me didn't get a single thing! Then the week of my 18th birthday I got the chickenpox. Really bad. I was so ill that I couldn't get out of bed to go to hospital, it affected my lungs and my asthma and I'd NEVER wish it on anyone at all. I was totally against immunising my kids for it and was going to do what my mum did - hope that they caught it, but I decided to get them the shots in the end. Why put them through it if they don't have to?

Oh I've been meaning to tell you guys, Immy loves playing "this little piggy" and "round and round the garden" but she anticipates the end bits and goes all giggly before I get to the "last" little piggy or the "one-step, two step" bit! Also she blows kisses which is sweet but so funny because she can do it properly with her right hand, but when she does it with her left hand - instead of touching her mouth she slaps the side of her head! It's so funny!

Ok, so I'll leave you with some pics of the kids from last weekend. We went to our local regatta and the kids had a ball, then we went and flew some kites.

Kids 1 (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/GirlsFeb046.jpg)
Kids 2 (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/GirlsFeb036.jpg)
Kids 3 (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/GirlsFeb034.jpg)
Kids 4 (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/GirlsFeb030.jpg)
Kids 5 (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/GirlsFeb014.jpg)
Kids 6 (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/GirlsFeb003.jpg)
Kids 7 (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o236/chenicimo/GirlsFeb007.jpg)

Moorish

15-02-2007, 13:12

OMG! And now I miss all you chatter boxes while I'm writing my post! LMAO!

Fi - your A&R should have that deal with the books because that's where I saw it!
Awww..... arn't those pee-wee's just so cute! LOL! Just kidding!
I'd still love to chat to you about a c-section, although I don't think that's option 1 for me - only when I'm freaking out! Still - I really have no idea about them at all so the more info the better!

Hayles - I had a feeling after reading your post that Cooper would have another nap!Hmmm... don't know why though!

Forgot to say! GOOD LUCK LOU! Let us know how you went will you?!

Also, I couldn't resist and bought a 0000 blue jump suit today from big w. I'm going back tomorrow to get the sheet set, blanket and quilt set as it's just so cute! Hmm... must go finish reading the rest of the catalogue! LOL!

OMG! I nearly had heart failure! I just got a call from someone with an Indian accent saying they were from Telstra and would like to speak to me about their service. I quickly replied - I don't have a service with Telstra and I'm happy with mine, thanks. Then hung up. WELL! The phone rang back straight away and I was shocked! I let it ring and it went to the machine. Then rang again. And again. And again. And again. On the 6th time I was REALLY freaked out but had to answer it or it was going to wake the kids.
ANYWAY! It ended up being my BUGGER of a friend Sam who sheepishly admitted that it was him calling before! I could have reached through the phone and throttled him! He gets me EVERY BLOODY TIME! But this time he got what he deserved! LOL :laughing: Tell you what though, I was seriously freaked out as I've seen those stories where telemarkers stalk people on the phone! :eek: Ah well, now I feel better!