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Tabby

21-01-2007, 09:34 AM

Charis, I have just started Katie on infacol and gripe water and it seems to have worked. :fingerscrossed:
Had a 5 hr sleep from 10.30 - 3.30! then 3.30 - 730 undisturbed!
She has been having trouble bringing up the last of her wind and was causing little tummy aches, enough to make her restless after feeds and not sleep longer than a hr unless held. No pain just grizzly and unsettled from the last bit of wind.
The infacol makes the wind collect all together for easyier burping ( it says ) and the gripe water is for upset tummys, that tastes like **** tho lol but im sure she will get used to it and is only 2 mls by dropper for both.
I think the gripe water has worked the best for katie but will keep using the infacol as well because you just add to bottle anyhow and im sure it all helps.

Other than that things are just great here.
We have been out shopping a few times since home and talk about getting a swelled head on how pretty she is hahha the ppl that stop us to goo and gah is amazing!!!. love it!!!
I leave home right after a bath and feed and she usualy sleeps the whole time, once when she was awake she just looked at the lights from the pram the whole time and just nodded off.
She really is precious, ds1 was the same but ds2 was shocking, so am greatful to have a great baby again that is just so easy pleased.

We have been getting the start of little grins this week while she lays looking around and kicking, also shes finding her hands and popping them in her mouth, shes not too sure on the taste tho because she grimaces as she does it and removes them lol. Some of the faces she pulls! So cute and amazing. Shes also finding her voice oh and her tounge! poking it in and out
Oh there goes my days, nothing will get done now, no way can I pull myself away from her and miss a thing!!!!!!! haha

Vicki

Charis

21-01-2007, 11:17 AM

:) Nice to know we're all up..at some time over night!!

Tabby, thanks for that! I also have gripewater and resorted to it the other night, but with that motherhood guilt that my bottle says from 1month.. so I wimped and just let him suck it from my fingers..so prob didn't get even 1/3 a dose. But I will use it I think esp for that nasty last wind bit!!

Amazing that we get to know what will and wont work pretty fast, isn't it, I guess it is about relieving distress and maintaining sanity, so efficiency is v v sensible!!

So gorgeous that people are stopping you and saying such lovely things about 'Katie'!!

I think we are all helping to keep the planet populated. The same at a 4yr bday party yesterday, all the parents were so so gorgeous. Wonder how many 'shall we try for another' it spurs!:yelclap:

LuvMyTum, gosh I didn't even realise that first and last letter (pretty astute of you!!). Well he was called H in the womb, even though he might have been a girl!!!! really so any relies wouldn't guess..and H-y is a cute name. Aighty or however you spell H phonetically.

Oh where was that cute cat-in-cot avatar..on the other thread! Naughty pusskin!

Happy Sundays girls, I am super happy..2 x 3hr sleep blocks +another hour to start. Sleeping windless bubs to all!!!:D

~J'dore~

21-01-2007, 11:29 AM

Well, I offically have cracked nipples:banghead: I'm soooo sore and have been dreading every feed... I'm using a cream and nipple shields so hopefully they will heal really fast:fingerscrossed:
Cooper hates the nipples shields though and it's so hard to latch him on. :thumbsdown:

I hope no one else is having this problem, it's so not nice:gloomy:

Tabby

21-01-2007, 01:06 PM

Charis: My gripe water says from newborn at 2.5 mls, its the hartleys natural gripe water.

~J'dore~ Sorry to hear of the sore nipples! So completely sympathize with you as mine got really bad while in hospital with my c-s infection that I resorted to the bottle. I just couldnt cope with 2 things at once, emotionally it was taking me down unfortunately. It was indeed hard for me tho to change as I had my heart set on bf for as long as possible. :( Hope they get better real soon for you xxx

Katie is again asleep much sounder so I think the gripe water is working a treat, heres to longer sleeps!!!!

Vicki

Cordelia

21-01-2007, 03:43 PM

Our shop ran out of natural gripe water so we got some colic relief stuff... which is 100% natural too.. i'm so hesitant to give her any drugs after feeling like we were both out drugged at the hospital that we haven't used it yet! Ridiculous.

Ouch to the nipples. Hope they get better soon. I have an opposite problem... because Caitlyn was having problems sucking and my nipples are quite flat the midwifes got me to use nipple shields from the start and now she won't use anything else. i really don't want to use one because of the inconvenience... youy can't exactly feed modestly in public fiddling round with oner of those things - embarrassing!!

DH is pushing to leave to see my parents (this is a first - see what babies do to you!) so i'd better go get ready

MyAlCoLo

21-01-2007, 06:19 PM

hi to all on the 'other side'

gosh the shopping thought scares me, haven't done any myself, the almost-DP has been doing it all so far. We did go to a 4yr bday party, which was lovely. such a nice day today in perth. And peoplr just LOVE new borns, hey!!!

myalcolo how did your DS party go?

Cordelia, gosh was that 12 - 7am!!!!!!! last night for me was 5hr sleep total, Hunter not getting to sleep till 2.00am. i have been doing everything to release wind for him tonight. much better. What is infacol??

arh..H-y is sleeping now after one handed feed..best rock off to bed:sleeping:night night.
LOL....try going to a nursing home with a newborn!! We went for a 10 minute visit, and couldn't get out of there til an hour later!! The elderly can't get enough of them!!

DSs party was alright in the end - I nearly cancelled it coz my family are majorly sh**ing me off atm. Grrrrr, gotta love their timing, hey! :rolleyes: Was fairly quiet and tense, but DS had a ball so thats all that matters, LOL.

Maddie slept through again last night! :eek: She was cuddled for most of the night, so didn't get put down to bed til just before 1am....and I had to wake her at 10am!! This is crazy! I always thought I was lucky with my other DD as she slept through from 2weeks....how can I be this lucky again??!!
**being careful not to jinx myself here, LOL**

Hope everyone is well...ouch to the sore nipples! Can totally sympathise, as until now I have never been able to bf due to the same problems. (So far so good this time around, touch wood! :yes: )

Charis

21-01-2007, 08:49 PM

gorgeous about the nursing home MyAlcoLo!! would have made their day!!! sorry abt yr family. Apparently they get better, ive been told :laughing:

how do you get or prevent cracked nips??? big sympathy j'dore!!

hehe, whats the worst thing (within reason) youve dropped on bub, while yr both feeding? my sis had made some billowy meringues and i accidentaly dropped one right on his head!!:o didnt flinch or even notice!!

i'll stop griping about gripe water. will get an eye dropper with measurements tomorrow.

happy nights all and sleep fast ;)

Tabby

22-01-2007, 04:14 AM

We have our first smiles happening like I thought! I got 3 in todays wake time and my mum had a couple as well.
lol Charis. worst thing I have dropped on her so far is a blob of bbq sauce on her white jump suit!
Katie has just been 5 hours and fed now so am off back to bed in hopes that another 5 hr at least is in for us, goodness knows we both need it.
cracked nipples are from not latching on properly which usually happens in the first few weeks Charis and avoiding them is to make sure bubs is latched on properly and using nipple cream helps them heal while still bf'ing if you do get them. mine were so bad! she was just too tiny and a tiny mouth it was so hard to get her on right I would end up in tears it hurt so much towards the end.
oh back to children's hospital tomorrow for the breech hip ultrasound results. :fingerscrossed: alls ok

Hope everyones bub's are sleeping well xxx

Vicki

sugar n spice

22-01-2007, 06:57 AM

hi all. ash likes to sleep in my arms alot. but i love it not that i get much sleep.

tabby - first smiles out they an amazing milestone. im still waiting though im sure soon.

i dropped a bob of ice cream sundae on him:shame:

Luvmytum

22-01-2007, 07:28 AM

:)

LuvMyTum, gosh I didn't even realise that first and last letter (pretty astute of you!!). Well he was called H in the womb, even though he might have been a girl!!!! really so any relies wouldn't guess..and H-y is a cute name. Aighty or however you spell H phonetically.

Got it!!! Good one...

Aitchy!

I thought you were literrally calling him H & Y!

tired*mummy

22-01-2007, 04:25 PM

Hi everyone,
Thought i would pop in a join the Jan 07 mummies.
Sierra is really good. She is a ver good baby... well so far anyway lol. She had a feed at 2:30am and then woke because of a dirty nappy at 5:30 but didnt feed then and went straight back off to sleep and then didnt wake again til 9:30. So i got a little sleep last night. More than i did in the hospital anyway.
About the sore nipples... OUCH!
I cant bf at the moment because both of my nipples are cracked and bleeding badly, so i am just expressing until they heal. The midwives think it is actually the way Sierra sucks that is causing them the crack and graze. They even noticed the way she sucks on the bottle is quite different to other babies, so i might end up expressing for quite a long time lol.
DD1 is loving having a new sister to help out with, DH said she was the 'mum' when i was in hospital. DD2 is being quite naughty though, wants more attention and wont do anything she is told. Hopefully we can sort all that out soon.
Well enough :ecomcity: from me. Hope all other bubba's are doing well.

2s'nuff

22-01-2007, 04:56 PM

I'll put my hand up for the sore nipples group. After expressing for a day or so they were feeling better. Then a day with the milk monster chewing on them and they are back to being extreemly painful. Am expressing every feed at the moment, but I don't know how long that can go on for as I'm on my own from Friday morning. Also finding that by 8pm I'm running out of milk. Last night gave TJ a formula feed at midnight and then expressed off for the next feed.

Yah to those mums with bubs already sleeping for long periods. We've had a few 5/6 hour stints, but not on a regular basis at the moment.

Had better go, have one boob about to explode so I'd better locate my pump.

Hels*Bels

22-01-2007, 05:27 PM

Hi to the new mummies, hope you are all well :hugs:

I notice quite a few of you who are BF have sore nipples, is there any advice you can give to a newbie on how to prevent this? I have been using avent nipple cream in preparation, but is it something that could happen no matter what?

I was also wondering how the weightloss is going for you all so far?
And do you find that you are hungry and need to eat when you get up for nightly feeds?

My worst thing at the moment is snacking in the middle of the night :(

Thanks.

~J'dore~

22-01-2007, 06:03 PM

I was using the avent cream in advance and then I used it after every feed for the first few days and I didn't have any problems, my nipples felt fine... so I stopped using it:no: silly, silly me!!!!! I'm back using it now and I think that it is helping them to heal a bit. Also I should have started using the nipple shields as soon as they started getting sore and cracked, but Cooper didn't like it. I've made him get use to them over the past 24 hours and it's made feeding so much easier. I'll stop using them when they've healed though. Also at the end of a feed don't let them use your nipple like a dummy, it's a different type of sucking and it equals cracked sore nipples:thumbsdown: Make sure you break the suction with your finger before you take them off as well.

Gee... for someone that knows all this you'd think that my nipples would be fine!!! I need to practice what I preach!!!!

~J'dore~

22-01-2007, 06:09 PM

Oh as for weight loss, I put on about 13 kgs while pregnant, lost 10 in the first week and I've got 3 that I'm going to have to work on:rolleyes: I'm quite lucky that my tummy's gone back really quickly, it's mainly my butt that still looks pregnant:laughing:

I eat a lot of fresh fruit during the day, I don't get hungry at night but I get really thristy, I drink water 24/7. (oh and I keep raiding the kids cookie jar:o I need my sugar fixes!)

Cordelia

22-01-2007, 08:13 PM

I'm going to write this because I'm amazed! I'm fairly overweight as it is.. I put on 8kgs over the pregnancy and in 4 weeks have lost....... 14kgs!! what the!!! I'm not far off my ideal weight now.. yay!! oh... but my clothes still dont fit me

ouch to the girls with nipple pain!! I hope it improves!!

I went to the child health nurse today to ask about the lump that sticks out underneath Cailin's ribcage... has anyone noticed this?? turns out it's her sternum which is more prominent in babies - it was a little embarrassing!! oh well.. i'm sure they've had worse questions

freddie

23-01-2007, 04:05 PM

hi all,

I've just found this thread and suppose we'll all move over from the due in Jan thread eventually? Hamish is doing well and slept from 12.30am to 6.15am this morning which was great although we thought we'd got him into a 10/11pm bed time which is much easier to deal with. My nipples are still sore but getting better and the blocked duct seems to have gone - what a relief.

We have used Brauer's colic relief which brings up a hearty belch and does the trick although I think the crying is mostly from hunger rather than anything else. Last night I fed him for about and hour but he was still starving and had about 120ml top up bottle as well before sleeping. hopefully my milk supply will improve so I don't need to keep doing that but it does make him sleep brilliantly. Has anyone else read that drinking too much water can affect your supply? I have a book that says more than 12 glasses a day is too much whereas I thought you were supposed to keep up with lots of fluids???? I'm a constant water drinker and would do 12 glasses easily.

Hels, I used Lancinoh which is a lanolin nipple cream and recommended as the 'only thing' by a few people. Seemed to work well for me and is no probs for bubs.

btw how is everyone's singing going? I'm getting lots of practice with the night time lullabies but they usually send us to sleep first!!

kx

ps I put on about 11kgs and lost about 12 straight after the birth. I have to admit my pre-pregnancy weight could have done with some trimming though! Haven't lost any since Hamish's birth though.

sugar n spice

23-01-2007, 04:12 PM

well on the weight thing. i gained one extra kilo above what i was at the start of my pregnancy and im now 14kgs lighter then when i gave birth. so i feel great about that. That has happened with all my pregnancies afterwards though. I find it all goes back on 6mnths later though, so im hoping to keep it off now. Its a great feeling isnt it:smiliedance:

tired*mummy

23-01-2007, 05:57 PM

Hi everyone

I put on about 18kgs with this pregnancy and have lost 9kg so far. Its only been a week so plenty of time to think about how to lose the rest. I want to lose 10-12kg but we'll see how that goes lol.
Sierra is doing well. She had a feed around midnight and then again at 5:30am. DH did the midnight feed as i went to bed earlier with a bad headache. We watched a dvd before i went to bed and it took us over 4 hrs to watch it all because of all the interruptions from all 3 DD's :laughing:
I finally got to centrelink today aswell which i was happy about. I went there yesterday but there was such a long line which i waited in for 25mins and thought stuff it. I was a bit emotional and in a bit of pain yesterday so i think it annoyed me more. But got there today anyway and the lady said because it was my 3rd baby they would put the baby bonus payment thru within 2 days for me :smiliedance:
I still have heaps of stuff that i want to get for Sierra's room, so that will come in handy.

Hope everyone is doing well and all the sore nipples are healing :laughing:
:wave:

Karrina

23-01-2007, 09:00 PM

:thumbsup: Great Thread

Cordelia - in regards to the weight thing BF really assists in loosing weight so maybe that is the trick. I lost heaps of weight with my first while I BF for the 1st 6 months but slowly put it on when I stopped!:gloomy:

Tabby

24-01-2007, 11:53 AM

Am only about 5 kilo above pre preg weight so not too fussed about it, been hard to remove it so far due to my c-s problems but soon ill be able to walk it off im sure once im pain free there:)

Kate is now sleeping well, anything from 3n half hrs to odd 6 hr. Night time she is much more settled now with most feeds 4 or 5 hrs.
Smiling brightly for 3 days or so now and Such a beautiful smile too!!!!!!!!! She gives the most when first wakes so what a way to wake up in the morning!

Love this part of motherhood!! when they learn they have a voice/arms/legs etc
making weird sounds, poking her tounge in and out and finding her hands to pop in and out of mouth or just throw out her arms and legs. oh and shes a tv addict already! She lays on the lounge and watches it beside me lol
even developing quite the paddy when not happy, example being woken to put into carseat she lets me know in no uncertain terms how peeved she is about it all :laughing:
I cant get enough of her, Now ill never get things done as my days will now be spent gazing at her even more than before lol, oh but what a way to spend the day!!

Hope everyones settling in well also :hugs:

xx
Vicki

Charis

24-01-2007, 06:50 PM

Hi!!:wave:
Cordelia great they are not broken ribs! Always best to ask!!

ok, OVER TIRED bub (yep not us!) how do you girls settle them??

I asked Child Health Nurse about the furtive looks and hand flailing and gnawing!! Which sometimes happens between 11 and 2am. She said prob over tired! Hmm forgot to ask how to settle an overtired bub. Besides quiet/dark..soothing, rocking, pacing... when in this state swaddling doesn't work!

He loves his baby bjorn and is great for being out in. He often goes off to sleep. Anything above 3.5kg..it says, it does support their necks pretty well.

They are just SO Beautiful aren't they! Love the color Hunter goes when he is sleeping!! Wish we could all meet, hey!

Has anyone had time to write their thankyou cards yet!?? Haven't read anything, besides small bit of newspaper and 'SETTLING YR BABY' can't see much reading going on.... 5yrs maybe :eek: What else no time to shop, sleep, read... so all you almost Mums do it all now!!!

On reading Dec06 girls, Claire was drinking Holle Baby Tea..(from health food shop) for settling colic/windy bubs. I am now sipping away now.. might have worked two nights ago?? Dunno what happened last night though.

Any settling tips, girls!!??

Karrina

24-01-2007, 09:41 PM

My bub gets the colic too, the only thing that seems to help is sitting him upright or rubbing his tummy clockwise. Those 2 things help him to burb or pass wind, usually after that happens he is straight back to sleep the drama is when the burb doesn't come!

I weighed myself today and am now back to my pre-pregnancy weight and have lost 12 kg in 2 weeks, my body must be so happy not lugging all that weight around. I just hope that BF helps me to loose some more!

My DD birthday is on Monday happybirthday and we aren't having a party for her, just too hectic. It's her 4th birthday so I came up with the idea to send her to childcare (she only goes here and there since I have been home from work) and let her have a party there. It means she won't get a lot of presents but I just don't have the energy to devote to a 4 year old party! :thumbsdown: I hope she forgives me!

Other than that, little boys are huge 'wee - ers', Billy seems to wee everywhere whenever I take his nappy off, I try to catch the wee with the nappy but as soon as I take it off again he continues the wee. I have had to change my bed twice in the last 2 nights. Last night I went through 4 nappies!!!! doing the catching wee trick, I never had those dramas with my DD. Billy is co sleeping in the bed with us. What are others sleeping arrangements? DH often ends up in the spare room due to noise, colic etc. DD co-slept with us too and it seemed quite easy to get her to move into her own bed :yelclap:

Great to see all the new mums and bubs settling into a routine

Cordelia

24-01-2007, 09:55 PM

Hey guys: thought this would an interesting poll for us all to do on how our babies arrived....:

http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=64180

freddie: i used the brauers colic relief the other night too - and it worked brilliantly... we got a good sleep out of it. i don't konw if it's colic that Caitlin has .. but hey!!

sugar: i can't believe you only gained 1kg! and then to lose 14.. that's craziness!

Tabby: I'm enjoying the growing interaction as well! she was copying some kissy noises yesterday.. and she loooves it when I play the piano to her which I'm very hapy about!!

Charis: I've been sending our thank you cards out as we receive presents.. just did a card with a photo on the computer on some pink card.. not very exciting!! Re: settling... the only thing that works for us when Caitlin is in a "state" is for her to fall asleep on DH's chest which is really really bad and she wakes up as soon as we try to put her in the bassinette but at least it gives us some relief from teh crying for a while!

Karrina: our problem is that Caitlin won't burp! Apparently it's a preterm baby thing. good luck with the weeing thing :P

are any of you guys letting expressing milk for your partners to feed bubs? I'm not sure whether it's too early - and also becuase I'm trying to wean Caitlin off these ****** nipple shields it might be too confusing for her.

We FINALLY got the baby bonus... we only get $45 a fortnight in family assistance tho!! Oh well, I can buy my weekly coffee chill and new idea with that - I thought i may have to sacrifice it on a sole income!!

what a HUGE post! Sorry about that ;)

sugar n spice

24-01-2007, 10:07 PM

cordeilia - yes its pretty cool losing all that weight. ashton has been a good baby lately. My older boys though are driving me around the twist:banghead:

Karrina

24-01-2007, 10:13 PM

Cordelia - I expressed milk for my mum to feed Billy from day 4. Didn't seem to be an issue and gave me a decent nights sleep. I did the same with DD when mum stayed for 2 weeks, I expressed every 2nd night for her to care for bub. The drama is waking up at 1am with 'full boobs' when all you want to do is sleep so I found that I had a express for relief a few of those nights. Both babies seemed fine using bottles and then breast but I did invest in the Avent bottles and teats which are closer to nipples than other bottles.

Sometimes trying to get the 'milk out' enough for a feed is difficult (which I found with my 1st child but not with this one), and I often had to express 3 times or so to get enough for a feed.

I would suggest trying it and see how you go!

Goodluck:thumbsup:

Karrina

24-01-2007, 10:17 PM

Forgot!!!

Some people may also be eligible for the 'parenting payment' from Centrelink. If you earn less than $726 pf and partner eanrs less than $1360 then you may also be able to get this payment on top of the 'Family Payment' you receive, worth looking into!:yes:

bossoflatch

24-01-2007, 10:54 PM

hi all,
finally found this thread...
bubs is only 4 days old - can we use the infacol or gripe water. i haven't had time to get to the shops since coming home yesterday, but she is so unsettled with belly aches, her knees are almost permantly cemented to her belly. poor thing!!!

just thought if i could try either of these i would make an effort to get to the chemist.

Oh the sore nipples, she is less than a week old and the nipples are soooooooooooooo sore... i too have been told that lanisoh is the best cream and i have to admit that it definately soothes the nipples and i look forward to putting it on after each feed. lol

better go and try to get some sleep -

night to all !!!
leisa

Tabby

24-01-2007, 11:36 PM

leisa: I have been using both from 2 weeks or so.
It says on both for "newborns" so I would say yes its ok. The gripe water has worked the best for us I think, more than the infacol. she was the same with the belly aches, waking about an hr after feeds, so I give gripe water and about 15 minutes later shes settled again.

Cordelia: Interesting to know the burp problems is a preterm thing! Would probably mean why shes needing the gripe water less and less now as she is pass "term" in age..

oh must run, Katies awake for 10.30 feed then bed for us YAY lol

Good sleeps to all xx
Vicki

Tabby

25-01-2007, 09:20 AM

Katie has christened the new lounge with a pee!
Funny how if any of us drop something on it we get the "look" off DP but this got a laugh and a awe sound. LOL guess whos got Daddy wrapped around her finger allready.

A 5 hr then a 3nhalf hr, not bad but would have liked to have gone back to bed but last home visit from clinic nurse at 10. Should be a massive weight gain on Katie, she finally has chubby baby bits!
cheeks, arms/legs

hope you all had a good night xx

must go and shower etc while shes alseep
xx
Vicki

sugar n spice

25-01-2007, 03:26 PM

leisa - your not supposed to use gripe water or infacol till there 1mnth old but my dr said its ok if there really colicy. i used infacol with my first and didnt find it did much but this time i used infants friend which is cheaper and worked better for us + you can use it from newborn up.

Ashton slept really well last night. was grizzly till late but once he went down he was as good as gold and then when he woke at 3.30 for his feed he went straight back to sleep:yelclap:

bossoflatch

25-01-2007, 09:26 PM

thanks for the advice guys. i went and bought some infacol and gripe water just to have on hand for tonight, didn' t want to put the poor thing in too much pain if i could assist her. Tried her on the infacol earlier tonight and it settled her. my mum came over for a visit and as i had just fed and bathed bubs, she offered to put her down for me and she is staying down so far....:fingerscrossed:

i invested in some nipple guards and OMG!! instant relief... i was a bit sceptical at first because they were so thin, but i have used them all day and they are actually letting my nipples heal a little.... it would appear that Tayla doesn't mind them either, but i do have one question...

has any one had problems when bf after the nipple guards, does the baby notice the change to the nipple again??? i just don't want bubs to have nipple confusion like with bottles????

thanks again and hope you all have a sleepful night!!

Leisa

tired*mummy

25-01-2007, 10:08 PM

Hi everyone,

Sugar - Happy that Ashton is being a good little boy for you.

Leisa - Can i ask where you got the nipple guards from?
I have been expressing from about day 3 and the midwifes & bf consultant have never mentioned them to me. I am still expressing but would really like to feed Sierra properly if i could. I dont mind bottle feeding for when DH wants to feed Sierra or if i have to go out.

Sierra has been really good. No colic or anything like that yet. She feeds and then sleeps really well. Last night we went to bed at 11pm and i woke up before her lol, at 3:15am to express and then she woke up. So i fed her with her bottle and then expressed the boob lol And by the time i had done that she had fallen back to sleep. Then didnt wake again until 8am. So shes been pretty good with the night feeds so far.
I find the only problem i am having is that she wakes up almost everytime i put her down. If DH puts her down she stays asleep for ages but she wakes within 10-20 mins when i put her down.
Well today it was our first trip to the shopping centre with 3 kids and it didnt go to badly. Sierra slept most of the time and just had one feed in between shops and DD's were quite good. I thought it would be worse with all 3 of them but i was surprised. DH has just gone to do the grocery shopping lol... very late i know. But i still cant drive or lift anything, so sent him off to get some things.
Well should probably try to get some sleep before Sierra wakes for her next feed.
Hope everyone and all the gorgeous bubs are doing well.
Take care :wave:

Cordelia

25-01-2007, 11:39 PM

leisa - i've had no luck with caitlin my nipple at all (a few sucks here and there recently) so i've used a nipple shield the whole time.. the silicon thin ones arent supposed to be a problem...

tired mummy - i'm glad sierra is going so well! I got my shields from the chemist (avent) ones and paid $16 and I saw the same thing at Baby on a Budget today for $9.. it's crazy the difference in price when it comes to baby things.

I love being a Mum right now!! She's been sleeping pretty well... I've been interacting with her for a couple of hours a day - she smiles and copies my facial expressions and things.. aaaahhhh ... I didnt even mind when she cried for 20 minutes before for no apparent reason... yay! This is more like it!

Tabby

26-01-2007, 06:34 AM

cordelia, isnt it great!!!! got to love those wake times. i cant get enough of them, just watching her do all sorts of expressions, some are quite funny arnt they.

leisa, hope tayla has settled for you and your both sleeping well.

katie added 500gms in 2 weeks! so now shes almost 6lb
my arm is dead right now holding her asleep while i type so will head back to bed i think lol

zzzz's to all

vicki

sugar n spice

26-01-2007, 01:04 PM

well we had a bad day and night yesterday and seems to be that way again today with ashton. He keeps crying and we put him down to sleep and then wakes up not long later. He seems to be constantly hungry feeding every three hrs. so i guess its either the weather or he is having a growth spurt. Still no smiles here. i think it will happen this week.:fingerscrossed:

2s'nuff

26-01-2007, 01:54 PM

To answer a few questions first;
Sleeping arrangements - TJ has been in her bassinet from night one. Had her just outside our room for the first few nights, then after I bought a monitor she went into her own room.
Thank you cards - I've got the notepad and envelopes, will start to get them organised soon.
Monitors - Someone asked about the SleepEasy monitor in an earlier post, at the time I forget to post an answer (baby brain), so I'll do so now. So far so good. No motion sensor, but does have a light indication for noises. Only static noise is when I ahve it turned up really loud. Bought it from Target for $80 (on special)

Charis... have you tried putting bub to sleep tummy down? If nothing else works, it's worth a try (during the day at first).
Tired Mummy...I got my nipple shields from the Chemist. Avent for about $10. TJ wouldn't feed properly when I used them though.
Sugar...know exactly what you mean by your older kids driving you crazy. DD1 has been extreemly trying since we got home. Not naughty, just wanting to do and have someone play with her, and she never shuts up.

TJ and I are doing ok. We three girls are now on our own as Nanna flew out this morning. MIL did the night feeds (1 a night) for the last couple of nights which gave me a couple of good sleeps.

Sleep dust coming out to the colicy bubs.

bossoflatch

26-01-2007, 03:58 PM

tired mummy - i bought the nipple shields from epharmacy -they are the tommee tippee brand and they are great, (they were $10 ) i am like you didn't want to express and still wanted to feel her. these ones are so thin - there is another brand as well beside avent and tommee but it is thicker. the midwives don't recommend the shields (mine explained yesterday ) because it could cause confusion when trying to feed without them. during the night i didn't have them sterilised so i feed tayla without them and she took to the breast straight away. as another mum says though, if you get a thicker silicone - bubs won't take to them ... but tommee tippee is great she hasn't refused the boob once with them on.....

on another note - it looks as though i will have to bottle feed for a week or so, i went to bed feeling really crook and woke with fevers this morning - my stomach was so sore it felt like i was pregnant again.... went to the doctors to be told that i have an infection in womb ?? i think he called it endometris - when the uterus and the womb are infected..... so he put me on two types of antibiotics and apparently my milk will go very salty - so i will have to wait and see if she takes it ... :fingerscrossed:

Tayla is sleeping great now since we invested in the infacol... the best thing on the market !!! we have been getting some sleep... she doesn't wake up crying at the moment. and she has been feeding for about 40 mins so she now sleeps longer and better.
before she was waking up and we couldn't settle her - now all she wakes for is a little boob and a look around - it is so cute....

better go and get some sleep - my stomach has been really hurting and the kids don't quite understand that even though the baby is here now - mummy still can't get up and play too much with them at the moment... hopefully that will change in the next few days...
cheers to all
leisa

~J'dore~

26-01-2007, 08:08 PM

Hi all:wave:

Well after over a week are extremely painful feeding my nipples are finally starting to heal:smiliedance: They are still cracked but the grazing has healed which has made it soooo much easier to feed today. Hopefully the cracks heal in the next couple of days too.

Mouse_brown - I brought a sleep easy monitor after reading your recommendation and it is so much better than our old one:yes: Same comments as you... only has static when turned up on full.

I hope those of you that are finding things difficult have a better day tomorrow:hugs:

xx Denise

Charis

26-01-2007, 10:49 PM

Gosh this place is a godsend isn't it!

Oops waking bub, in distance..no all quiet. :fingerscrossed:

Leisa gorgeous avatar of Tayla!! You poor thing re the endometris, and the antibiotics. Home bub keeps feeding well.

Mousebrown isn't the HEAT awful.. yes will certainly try the tummy! Often on my chest or across my knees during day.

Hmm crying now.. :wave: Happy sleeps!

Luvmytum

27-01-2007, 07:48 AM

Hi Girls
Hope you're all coping well.

I'm still here - 4 days overdue now. Being induced Wed night if nothing happens before then. Both my sisters have unfortunately gone overseas for a few weeks now so will miss the birth :gloomy: .....

For those interested, I just did a quick count from the announcements thread & the gender count so far is as follows:
14 Girls
13 Boys (including Hels new son Reece that was born yesterday - if you hadn't heard!)

I'm surprised - I thought there'd been more boys!!

Will let you know when I pop! There's still a few of us around - 5 or 6 I think.

Take care - hope you're all enjoying your little bundles.

Sharyn

bossoflatch

27-01-2007, 10:35 AM

wow, 3 lots of antiboitics and bubs is still taking the boob, i am so proud of her, she is sleeping great even. I am still feeling a bit sluggish - woke up in the middle fo the night with the fevers again, only just settled when bubs stirred for a feed, but soooo don't want to have to put her on the bottle when she is happy to take to the boob.

how is everyone else going with this heat??? we are in brisbane and between the heat and the storms - i feel so sorry for bubs as they really must feel it....

luvmytum - :fingerscrossed: you little bubs will be with you oh so soon .... i was waiting for bubs to stir late last night and was thinking how much i miss being pregnant, especially in the shower when i would give her a pep talk and a shower gel massage ( she used to love it ) and now i go to talk to my belly and there is nothing there but flab... :laughing:

take care
leisa

Tabby

27-01-2007, 11:34 AM

Leisa: :fingerscrossed: she continues to take the boob for you.
Sorry to hear of the infection. Hope it clears fast
Glad to hear the infacol seems to have worked too.

Luvmytum: :fingerscrossed: you go before wed naturally xxxx

things are still good here, have just spent the last hr n bit gazing and talking to katie while she was awake, shes making some great noises now too that shes found her voice. love it!!!!! oh and she has mums one sided dimple when smiles!

hope everyone slept well
xxx
vicki

freddie

27-01-2007, 01:29 PM

!@#$ just wrote a long post and lost it all....
glad everyone is mostly going ok - with the usual sleep deprivation, nipple soreness etc. factored in of course.
I've managed to pick up a bout of mastitis - VERY sore boobs one morning and feeling flu-like symptoms including being freezing cold which is ricidulous in this perth weather at the moment. Anyway, the antibiotics are kicking in well and I feel ok.
Hamish had two days of very little sleep but BIG night sleeps (7 hours on Thursday night!) but then slept all day yesterday and of course had me up at 2.30am and then 6.30am which is more what I had expected it would be like...not sure if my milk supply has settled properly yet though as I fed him for 40 mins from 6.30 this morning then another 50 mins from 8am and by 9.30/ 10 he was screaming like he was starving and took a 120ml top up bottle! At least he's gone to sleep now and looks like a perfect angel...I want to wake him up for a cuddle!! hopeless.
sorry this is all about me. oops, shouldn't have spoken too soon I can hear cries from the bedroom.
best to all
kx
ps Charis, I think we used to work together - the realisation came to me this morning after thinking about Hunter's surname (over breakfast for some unknown reason). How do I send you a personal message? I can't work it out.

2s'nuff

27-01-2007, 03:04 PM

Freddie...Glad to hear you got to the doctors and hoping you start to feel lots better soon. What do you do for feeds when you have mastitis?
Liesa...Hope you start to feel better soon
Luvmytum...:fingerscrossed: things happen before Wednesday. Very interesting figures. I had thought about setting up a poll but don't have the time or knowledge at the moment.

Hope everyone else is doing ok. We've survived 24 hours on our own. Though I'm about ready to do away with DD1. She's always one or two steps infront of or behind me. And talk, sometimes I'm sure she hasn't stopped for a breath inbetween questions.

TJ still doing well. Some unsettled periods during the day but (touch wood) so far none during the night.

sugar n spice

27-01-2007, 03:29 PM

good to hear everyone is doing good.

Ashton had a really good night last night. he slept 5 1/2 hrs straight so i thought that was pretty good.
Dhs dad is leaving tomorrow.
not much been happening, been getting our backyard grassed and dealing with the kids and visitors but after tomorrow everything will be back to normal and then dh will be back at work which im dreading.

Im looking at putting ash in his own room sometime next wk or the next i think.

freddie

27-01-2007, 06:46 PM

mousebrown - no probs with bf & antibiotics so we're carrying on as usual. am feeling heaps better thanks but could do with air con!

Cordelia

27-01-2007, 07:37 PM

Man how hot is it.... poor Caitlin has been in a deep sleep for most of the day . boiling hot so I woke her up and gave her a cool bath and a feed because I'm afraid of her getting dehydrated. I think my DH is getting sick of me stressing about every single thing!

I started expressing so DH could feed her at night - so last night (get ready for it...) I slept for NINE HOURS... STRAIGHT.... Crikey! Mind you, I feels really wierd. I'm getting a bit possessive of my little baby! And feeding is my domain!!

Ouch! I'm dreading mastitis .. I hope it clears up for you quickly freddie.

And leisa - hope you're feelign better too.

Well 4 weeks and 5 days after the c-section I've already got my AF!! Even tho I'm breastfeeding... how annoying!! I couldnt' work out why I was getting pimply, Caitlin was fussing with my milk and I was snapping at DH so much... but it all fell into place.. oh well - tmi!

Charis

27-01-2007, 11:57 PM

Hi gorgeous girls+beautiful bubs!!:wave:

Now Cordelia!! That is just naughty :) about as bad as me posting on our Jan07 thread about how nice it is to sleep on our tummies!! (I haven't written that of course!) and all those still waiting for their bubs you'll be able to soon soon enough. Wonderful though about such a great sleep!!! YAH!!!! Oh ps: I can guess what you got, but wish I knew the abbreviations.. gosh and already!!!

Sugar, yes it is the beginning of work again for lots of DPs. School soon for your other boys though? My was-almost-DP is back at work Monday, but considering we haven't seen him since Tuesday is not all that life altering for us. Would be so lovely to share this special time with a DP, so treasure yours, girls and give them special hugs!!

Mousebrown all the best of wishes for your DD1. (and littlest DD too of course).

Question - I think Mousebrown you once mentioned it..about the milk-bank at KEMH.. Just found out that the 8month pregnant daughter of a dear chap (actually my hardware shop owner!) has aggressive breast cancer and had the breast removed last weekend, starting chemo this weekend!!!!!!!!!!!! Absolutley tragic, but :fingerscrossed: that she will beat the thing!!!! In some early morning thought coupled with seriously dripping (.)(.) I did think I should DONATE to her and soon to be born bub. Does anyone know how this works..I guess a question for Cheeki28 and anyone else with twins..what would I be expecting to feed and express the same amount?? So terribly terribly sad, so precious, our bubs, our health...our time together.

Freddie, I did PM you! Arh but your name starts with K..hmm I'm still guessing?? Hope we did work together, be nice to know another local Mum! Your Hamish sounds like a wonderful guzzler! Great he did that feed, feed, feed thing in normal hours, rather than 4-5am :yelclap:

Happy sleeps girls and all. Hunter is just 2 wks old and I find myself delighting in his new sounds/fatness..but missing the new new born ness. So fast and precious this time.

sugar n spice

28-01-2007, 07:09 AM

well i had a good night. ash slept from 10pm after his 8pm feed and slept till 5am. i suppose thats classified as sleeping in. i just hope keeps it up. its kinda weird coming here and bubs is 6wks tomorrow and some if you have only just had bubs or soon to be.
i much prefer 6 wks though then newborn. a little bit easier.

hope those of you feeling ill get well soon.

Tabby

28-01-2007, 08:00 AM

i agree sugar, sure gets easier! almost 5 weeks here and this week katies been that much better. more easier settled. 2 x 4 n half hrs sleeps here and as she was back fed and sound within hf a hr i feel much more rested this morning.
Glad Ash is settling nicely :fingerscrossed: you get more of those good sleepins

cordelia: the clinic nurse here the other day said it was ok for little water drinks now between feeds to make sure not dehydrating, now if only I can get her to take it, the face she pulls in disgust! lol. not before we get about 3-4 mls tho so is ok.
what a bummer!!!! AF already jeeze, so not fair hun
Ive only just really stopped bleeding ...tmi ahead.. the yucky last discharge we get lasted till about wed! So af better stay away for at least 2 weeks yet for me.

Charis: I feel like I still have the newborness your speaking of as Katie is still only 6 lb so still looks tiny as and new. ppl at shopping even say it too. but am glad shes now got chubby cheeks to speak of :D.

freddie: hope the mastitis clears fast for you

mousebrown: we are the same, katie seems harder to settle day but has been great at nights which is ok by me. long as the night ones are easy huh

awww was hoping to get back to bed for a few more but katie has decided this is ok time for play lol. ok must go get a coffee instead then!

hope all slept well
and eww another hot one here today, can feel it allready.
Vicki

2s'nuff

28-01-2007, 04:56 PM

Another stinker here in Perth. I think I'm going to start to go mad if I have to be cooped up inside for another day.

Cordelia... :smiliedance: feels good to get a decent sleep doesn't it. Yuck at AF showing herself already.
Charis...How sad for the poor girl. Don't know much about the milk bank, perhaps your could call them and ask about it.
Sugar...:smiliedance: for the sleep through. Hope Ashton keeps it up for you.

All quiet here. TJ is having a better day today, has had a couple of decent sleep periods, which is making me feel a little less stressed. DD1 has also had a sleep today, which makes a huge difference.

Cat13

28-01-2007, 05:09 PM

Hi Everyone

Just a quick one to introduce myself to the thread. :wave:

Leisa - I miss being pregnant too. I think I'm actually going to be sad when the last bit of my baby tummy shrinks away. It was such a nice cosy feeling knowing they were safe and sound in your belly.

And to those of you who are who are longing for bub to sleep a few hours in a row, I have the opposite problem. Cameron loves his sleep and will not wake himself up for feeds and would easily sleep over 6 hours if I let him. That doesn't sound like a problem but it means I stress over whether he is feeding enough (I try and wake him every 4 hours during the day but he gets pretty cranky about it and I feel so mean) but plenty of wet and dirty nappies so I guess he is fine.

Hope everyone and their bubs are doing well.

new_mummy82

28-01-2007, 06:03 PM

hi all :wave:

i'm here to introduce myself too!

Cat13 i have a similar situation with Georgia, altho she does eventually wake for a feed she doesn't cry just lies there until we notice she's awake! (not that i'm complaining!!!)

Hope all mums and bubs are doing well

Tabby

29-01-2007, 01:54 AM

just a quickie before heading back to bed
welcome to new mummy and cat13!
mousebrown: Yes! cant wait to get out too when this heat subsides.

Katie is being great still. fed/changed/burped in 20 mins and sound asleep allready.
hope all sleeping well
g'night
xxxx

sugar n spice

29-01-2007, 06:09 AM

i wish ash would feed and go back to sleep after 20mins but he likes to stay awake for an hr or two. its been 1/2 since he woke up. id like to get at least another hrs sleep before dh gets up for work and the boys wake.

Cordelia

29-01-2007, 08:06 AM

It's amazing how different our little baby's sleep and feeding patterns are! I though they all worked the same.

Speaking of which, has anyone looked into "dunstan baby language"? I've been trying to see if it works over the weekend... she definitely does NOT say "neh" when she's hungry. I can hear "eargh" when she has lower discomfort but isn't that obvious?

So many of us are west aussies... we should definitely have a get together when we're all settled... get a chance to show off our bubs!

MyAlCoLo

29-01-2007, 09:52 AM

Wow, it's been awhile since I've logged on, lots of catching up to do...congratulations and welcome to Cat13 and new_mummy82 :)

Madison is 2 weeks old today! She's still sleeping well....has slept through from about day 4 I think, I usually have to wake her in the morning, LOL.
We had a few bad nights where she just wouldn't settle, and she spent 2-3hours attached to my boobs. Ouch! Got very draining, so I made the move to bottles last night :( Very disappointing, but it really is the 'easier' option for me, considering I have 3 other kids to look after too. She definitely seems much more content now, so that's good. I still feel guilty for giving up BF'ing though :(

Nipple shields - I bought some Advent ones and they are great! They've definitely improved over the years....the ones I used with DS1 were soooo thick, they were terrible.

sugar n spice

29-01-2007, 10:04 AM

myalcolo - i bottle feed, have done with all mine but thats the way it had to be. i dont feel bad though, im still bonding, dh gets to bond and it gives me a break from feeding aswell.

i realised last night that ash is booked in for his needles next week but he will only be 7 wks so i had to phone and get it pushed back a week. couldnt change my appt though as there were no bookings left for the same day so i had to keep my appt for next wk for my check up and iud fitted.

Ashton has his 6wk check up this wednesday. i bet he has put on a lot of weight.

dragonflyblu

29-01-2007, 11:13 AM

settling baby...lately Clea has been getting overtired, she is easily distracted now that she can see more. Today she was fussy and abouyt an hour ago I was at my wits end. I thought I would do a bit of research and found some sites talking about white noise and settling newborns. Luck has it that we have a Theta White noise track that goes for an hour and it took Clea about 30 seconds to go to sleep once I started playing it! She loves the vacuum and the car so white noise may be the ticket for us :fingerscrossed: For all those like me that didnt really know what white noise is, it is a constant noise at the same frequency, here is a definition "Acoustical or electrical noise of which the intensity is the same at all frequencies within a given band."

Well she is 4 weeks now and i really need to try to work on her sleeping longer. The longest she sleeps is 3 hours, well one night she slept 4! I havent been too concerned up until now, but I am starting to run on empty:sleeping: although I shouldnt complain, night feeds are really easy. I BF her laying down and usually I fall asleep and she falls asleep when shes done. I wake when she detaches, change her nappy give her a quick burp and put her back into her bassinet. Some nights though she likes to stay in bed with us.

big :hugs: to all the mums with sore nipples. BF is quick exhausting it must be worse with sore nipples.

MyAlCoLo

29-01-2007, 11:27 AM

Sugar - Did you use anything to dry up?? I've always taken the Kripton tablets in the past....but I can't be bothered visiting a Dr today for a script, and was wondering if there's anything else I can take?? I'm in AGONY! :gloomy: :crying:

mim1

29-01-2007, 11:29 AM

hi all!

Joshua is currently asleep which is great! He got weighed at the hospital yesterday, 3 days after he was discharged and he's only put on 25 grams, so I was told to feed him more often. I was already struggling with the 4 hourly feeds and he was in that routine. I didn't want to change the routine cause he was waking at the 4 hour mark reliably and I thought it was working ok. The midwife suggested 3 hourly feeds during the day. I wasn't impressed, but tried it anyway. I had to wake him each time but he would drink quite well for about 30 - 40 minutes, so he clearly was hungry.

Then last night I fed him at 9:30pm and went to bed at 10pm and left him with dh (but Joshua had gone directly to sleep after the feed). Dh came to bed at 1am and put Joshua in his basinette in our room and he didn't wake for another hour! I got up for a feed but was back in bed by 3am and he didn't wake til 6am. I then spent 2 hours feeding, changing and trying to settle him. Dh then took over so I could sleep a bit. Dh got me up at 9:30am cause Joshua was hungry. He fed for an hour and then fell asleep and he's been asleep ever since.

So, I'm happy with the overnight portion, but the whole timing of feeds and variable duration of feeds is a real challenge. I hope he settles down soon into some reliable routine ... he's not even 2 weeks old though so I suppose i'm being a bit impatient.

Tabby

29-01-2007, 12:10 PM

My alcolo: I breastfed for almost 3 weeks so had to go through the engorged pain for at least a week
Midwifes advice was to cut back on fluids and take panadol. I did express a few times a day, just a little, enough to take away the engorged feeling. Dont express too much tho just enough till feels more comfy for you. took me over a week to feel more comfortable and still leak a little even now They wouldn't give me the tablets to dry it up :banghead:
said they wernt used as much now.
I gave up bf'ing as they were so cracked and sore and I was trying to recover from the c-sect infection and mentally it was just draining me as the infection had made me unwell as well.
I still have guilt moments as to bf was a huge thing for me but im slowly accepting it.
I remember bumping my engorged boob while shopping and it was excruciating! so be careful xxx

Mim: I also had to wake feed Katie the first 3 weeks every 3 hrly to gain weight. Finally got the ok week 4 from clinic sister to change back to 4 hrly and now week 5 she can go 5hrly+ at night if wants to. Im yet to have many that are over 4 hrly tho. and she said try get her to go longer at nights. errrr how do you get a baby thats behaving starving hungry to go longer??!! think ill just wait till shes ready...
you should see an improvement in routine soon xx took katie 4 weeks and each day it seems to get better

Sugar: Ive only just this last week gone back to swaddling Katie and I think thats whats worked for us to settle her faster to sleep. Ive tried not doing it and she just stays awake or squirms and wriggles constantly. so I wrap her feet and hands in well.
Hot weather makes it hard to swaddle but I use a muslin blanket which is thin and have a fan in the room blowing slightly near her bassinet for air flow so she doesnt overheat.

lol still not showered or dressed yet here!
So better go now while I can
xx

tired*mummy

29-01-2007, 01:16 PM

Hi everyone,

Today is Dh first day back at work. I really didnt want him to go back so soon but he couldnt organise anymore time off cause it was too short notice. Not doing too badly though, MIL took DD1 swimming this morning so that was good. DD2 watched ABC most of the morning and Sierra slept from 7:45am til noon. So i had a bit of time to do alot of the housework and tidying up. Sierra has been really good, very settled which i'm happy about. DD1 was a very unsettled baby so the change is really nice. Sierra feeds every 3-5hrs, last night it was at 3am and then she didnt wake til 7:15 this morning.
I'm still expressing her feeds. I have tried bf her again and it was fine until one of my boobs started hurting. Think it might be a blocked duct... havent had it before with DD1 or 2, so not sure if it is or not. So i cant feed off that side cause it hurts too much, cant even lay Sierra on that side. But i can express from that side so its ok. I only b/fed DD1 for a week and expressed for DD2 for 5months, but i think for Sierra i will eventually have to go onto formula as i'm only getting 60-80mls everytime i express and her feeds are only going to go up. She's on 60mls now so hopefully my milk supply will increase. Does it increase? Does anyone know? I cant remember lol.

A Question for those who have had c-sections.... How long after did you wait until you drove? The midwife told me i shouldnt drive for 6 weeks after the c-section. Is that right? Did anyone drive sooner or wait the full 6 weeks? Just wondering as DD1 starts kinder this week and i need to take her. Its too far away to walk lol.

Hope everyone is having a good day,
:wave:

Tabby

29-01-2007, 01:39 PM

tired mummy
i started driving as soon as i felt up to it, last monday, so about 4 weeks or so but ours is an auto and have only done short trips to shop so far,had it been a manual i probably wouldnt have till 6 weeks. i did read somewhere that insurance wont cover till 6 weeks as its classed as major surgery unless you have a gp's ok from 4 weeks, correct me if wrong anyone. maybe get gps ok to make sure?
talking of c-sects, anyone suffer from mild backaches? I thought it was just my back playing up but found out c-sects and/or epidurals can make for a backache for quite some weeks.

The more bubs takes in feeds the more you produce to compensate, so just make sure your emptying totally so your body knows to make more. growth spurts where bubs sucks more vigorously and longer also tell your body to produce more. hope that helps :)

freddie

29-01-2007, 02:24 PM

wow, glad to hear everyone else is having feeding and sleeping troubles (of course we are!!) but all of our experiences are so different its hard to learn from each other isn't it? I've found I can't feed Hamish enough at night so I top him up with a bottle and he generally sleeps for 5 1/2 hours then another 2 - 3 hours in the night. Great when he goes down at 10 pm ish but last night he crashed at 8pm after not sleeping during the day and work at 1.15am but I couldn't get him back to sleep for over 3 hours! So I'm feeling a bit on the tired side today and its the first day back at work for my DH too.
good luck with it everyone, hot tips appreciated!
kx

Hels*Bels

29-01-2007, 06:09 PM

Hi girls,
It's really great to be joining this thread at last.

Everything is going well with us, however last night was our first night at home and it took us until 3am to settle Reece, so probably not a great start. He feeds really well and I haven't had any problems with BF yet :fingerscrossed:
Seems I need to perfect my winding techniques as he gets a bit sickie after a feed and that was why he was unsettled last night. Today I have been able to get him off to sleep straight after. It's about 1 hour total for a feed, nappy change and burping so that's not too bad. He goes about 3-4 hours between feeds.
We had a midwife visit today and she was very pleased with our progress so far :thumbsup:

I am still quite sore from the birth as I had to have a ventouse extraction which caused a first degree tear (with stitches) and severe bruising. This means I have to sit on a pillow that has a hole in the middle and I won't be able to drive the car for a couple of weeks until I can sit normally again.
DH has been excellent with bubs though and helping me, we have been doing everything together so far.

Anyway, I could go on and on about how great it is to be a mum, but I'm sure we all feel the same way :)

I'll catch up again soon, at the moment it's a bit difficult to sit at the puter for too long :(

Hope everyone is doing well.

sugar n spice

29-01-2007, 06:17 PM

my dh went back to work today to though we are all doing good here. looks like a few of us have seen our dh off to work today for the first time in a bit.

On the c section - after my second bub i drove at about 3wks i think. my dr told me its ok if its an auto and if i can move my leg comfortabley without pain as you would when putting your foot on the pedal. so pump your leg like you would if you were in the car and if it doesnt hurt you should be ok. if its a manual im not sure. Also i have heard the same thing about insurance aswell

Charis

29-01-2007, 06:17 PM

:wave: Gosh bubhub, email and mobiles are great great great! Would be no way I would be sane or able to work..otherwise. Tabby re "hadn't showered or dressed"! Heh, I was musing around noon that I was in fact still topless..but still quite able to work (from home!!) I had in fact showered and put the bottom half on..

Freddie :) super cool chick! so very nice you're here too!!! Sorry to hear about 3hrs unsettled, yikes! I would imagine you tried EVERYTHING. Is yr DH able to settle better in the night? My almost-DP is often the last resort. Well the car was the last resort once (at 1wk), but a bit silly as I was so tired. Hmm who wrote about swaddling..Tabby, yes I stopped for a few days but started again and it works everytime. Even when he being his Elver persona (little eel) so super squirmy and grumpy overtired.

Re driving+C-section, I'm glad someone wrote why we're not supposed to drive - insurance! I've been driving since 6days! Didn't realise we weren't supposed to, until a heap of people said it to me..luckily not family however, have been driving almost every day since. Not as strenuous as getting out of bed, I assure you!!!

Tired Mummy, hope yr (.) better soon, great you can still express from it. I've heard the pain is like a red-hot poker!??

Amazing what we don't have time for, and also what we do have time for!! No way you could explain it to someone without a small baby. Hunter and I named a bear and did some singing, took gorgeous naked bub on rug photos, shopped for the 1st time in 17days! checked out a painters work - all good, visited old shared office+lots of people, but I haven't got the washing in, rung anyone for work (and its 5pm!). Or written thank you cards...still!

Dragonflyblu, am sure it is you and Clea with the original Minimink, they are so beautiful. we have a coffee one..which got wee-d on today during nude Hunter photo session :yes:

Sugar, you're like a big sister..with Ash at 6wks..you are! Needles, is this organised through one's child health nurse??

MyAlcolo, sorry to hear about the boobs!!! I'd thought "do you have to express till you stop producing" and then I read your next post, IN PAIN!!! Ouchy, I hope it is getting better just these few hours and they're not engorged!

Last but so so not least MIM1 and Joshua!!!! Congratulations, wow!!! What a birth story and what a beginning. I loved how you wrote it all, the bulk of it about the pre-labour, labour..and then so briefly as in that split (few) seconds is all the drama of life+death. yes, I know almost how you feel, as Hunter took a very very long time to cry, they were suctioning all the meconium out of him, with an agpar of 3!!!!!! I did think he was dead, as did my DP and we know so well that this is a possibility. Then he cried (and heart touching it certainly was) and they said 'the little chap is fine'. GOD!!! relief!!! What an extreme few moments for you and yr DP and realising yourselves he wasn't breathing. WOW. You amazing woman! Congrats and all the best of feeding/sleeping/growing to you all!

Oh yes. How did all the DPs back at work go today? My almost-DP did stay last night and H-y was gorgeously settling, but do feel for them having to work today. I know we're working too, but it is spread over 24hrs :rolleyes:

Hels!! looking forward to your next post and Reece updates as the youngest of bubs for us to hear about!! oops, missed you at the same time. Great to hear you here. Yikes 3am that is very hard! Just like Freddie! Yes wind is a marvelous thing to bring up or out, feel like its a small victory (of sleep) everytime!! he he. Feed, change, burp inside an hour is v good. Sounds just wonderful for you and DH. xx

Cordelia

29-01-2007, 08:51 PM

hey everyone - hope you and yours are going well! :)

We went to the MOVIES today with bubs... she slept mostly and when she stirred I just fed her - no one would have ever have known there was a baby there. oh! AND .. she burped for the first time - DH and I were so proud of her - she's done it 3 times since. Hopefully her tummy will feel better for it!! The nurse said she was not mature enough to do it before now.

Mim - I feel for you.. we had to wake Caitlin every 3 hours as well. It's good that he's feeding for a good length - It was a struggle to get Caitlin to feed for 5-10 minutes at first. It's so stressful - always with your eye on the clock.

tired-mummy: I waited 4 weeks to drive.. but only because no one would let me drive - I was very frustrated. I've only just started lifting the pram out of the boot tho (5 weeks on).
tabby - I had no idea about the insurance thing!!!

Well, Caitlin has an appointment tomorrow - it would be her 6 week check up but seeing as she's 4 weeks early they're doing her 6 week check at 10 weeks and I didn't want to leave it go so long - so she's having a check up tomorrow. I hope she's put on lots of weight again!

PS Charis good on you for working so early!! You must be so organised!! Altho probably dont look it - topless at noon!

LadyLou

30-01-2007, 08:57 AM

Hi there,

Just thought I'd pop my head in hear while I have the chance! It's nearly 10am and not showered and dressed yet and have visitors coming - arrghhh! Ah who cares!

I am so frustrated by not being able to drive. We have two manual cars - one a hilux - so looks like 6 wks for me! But the up side is my DH doesen't go back to work for another 7 wks - so I have a live-in chauffer!

Another question for the c-section mumma's - it's a bit TMI - (but my Dr never really said), how long did you wait until you started BD'ing again (does it ever happen again??). I waited the full 8 wks after DS, but that was due to a big tear and stiches (owww!).

Any info would be great!

Thanks
Cait
xxx

SarBear_smiles

30-01-2007, 10:35 AM

Hi there everyone - I actually posted ages ago in the 'due in January' thread however was more a 'browser' than a poster in the end! But now I have had my baby - I hope it is okay to actively participate a bit more!

I had a daughter, Ivy Mae on the 19th January...So far everything seems to be going pretty well, I have had no issues with feeding although i think she is a bit colicy, I was reading about the infacol wind drops on here so think I might go and get some today.

It is great to read everyone's experiences and advice...Look forward to chatting more!

:wave: :wave:

SammyG

30-01-2007, 11:48 AM

Liam'sMumma, close friends of ours did the deed the day they got out of hospital. I don't think I would be quite that keen and I think due to risk of infection you are meant to have a break.

sugar n spice

30-01-2007, 12:04 PM

charis - you arrange to have bubs needles done at your 8 wk check up.

liamsmum - after i had my c section with my second we waited 3 wks but they say 6 wks.

had a **** day and night with ash not settling but dh fed him early at 11pm as he seemed hungry and he went to sleep just after12am i think and slept till 6 am and then went straight back to sleep so that bit was good.

Tabby

30-01-2007, 12:47 PM

Hels!!! So happy to see you here
Hope you heal fast and Reece settles nicely for you xx

Liamsmumma: we have started again (last week, week 4 when loss stopped) not like we have anything to "heal" down there I suppose and Ive been getting rather good sleeps so not too tired. Dont forget the birth control tho!! :thumbsup:

Welcome SarBear_smiles! Glad things are going smoothly for yous

Just got back from our first walk. Was hotter than I thought it would be though :mad:
Had a good night here, 5hrly wakes, seems to be slowly getting longer :fingerscrossed:

jeez~ I wondered why was sore tummy and back achy yesterday, thought it was because I had done too much but I think I have my af again already!!!! after a week of nothing im bleeding again. Thats normal to get them so soon? Have forgotten last because was 15 yrs ago lol. Also is it safe to use meds etc now?

xxx

Karrina

30-01-2007, 01:50 PM

:wave:

Child Health Nurse came around yesterday and Billy aka 'Fat Boy' has put on another 500gms in 10 days :eek: (before that he put on 700gms in one week after hospital discharge). He has grown out of 0000 clothing and is officially 3 weeks old today. AMAZING CREATURES and to think that I have to wake him for BF

Tired Mummy - good luck with it all, I feel for you 3 kids, c-section scar and no DH to help out. Hope things are going well for you

Hels - nice to see you here and pleased that the BF is going well for you

SarBear - welcome to our thread

I have signed up for the 'family and baby classes' at the Child Health Clinic starting next week, there are 6 'lessons' over 6 weeks covering things like baby massage, development, first aid for babies, post natal depression and more. I am hoping that I will get to meet some other mums as I never had the opportunity for 'mums group', playgroup and things like that with my first DD as I was back at work when she was 6 weeks old:(

Billy slept for 5 hours straight last night! which is a first usually he is awake for a feed every 3 hours. I have been using gripe water for his colic and it seems to be helping, I have also been BF in bed which really takes the 'hassle' out of getting up. Billy and I have officially taken over the king size bed. DD has moved to her own bed and DH has set up home in the babies room (which also has a double mattress on the floor) talk about musical beds. Billy does sleep in his cot in his room during the day.:thumbsup:

mim1

30-01-2007, 02:48 PM

Last night was not such a great night. We went out for dinner at my parents and Joshua slept through the whole thing. Everyone was saying how much of an angel he was, etc. He woke just as we got home (what timing!) and had his feed at 9pm. He was hungry again by 11pm so I gave him a little feed til he fell asleep. He woke up screaming 20 minutes later and dh discovered that he'd chucked in his basinette. So, we got up, changed his bedding, his wrap and his entire outfit
(it was only a small chuck, but it landed on everything!). He wouldn't settle so I gave him a little bit more to drink. Then he clearly needed his nappy changed so I did that and he thought it an ideal time to pee everywhere! It's the first time he's done pee at the time of a nappy change and I've been waiting for it, but the timing was bad. So, only half an hour after a complete change, he was being completely changed yet again! dh saw the whole thing and thought it was hilarious!

He wouldn't settle after all that excitement and was restless til I fed him again at 2am, then he finally slept from 3am til nearly 6am. Dh & I are pretty exhausted today.

I'm glad to hear it gets easier listening to all your stories. He sleeps beautifully between feeds during the day and is infact sound asleep on my lap at the moment 3 1/2 hours after his last feed. I'm even typing with both hands!

Karrina ... I wonder if our child health centre has similar classes. We were going to sign up for a one night class at our hospital, but if there's one at the child health centre that might be better. I'll ask my nurse when she comes on Thursday.

tabby ... glad to hear your first walk went well. I'd love to take Joshie for a walk, but there doesn't seem to be much time at the moment. what meds were you wanting to take for AF? Do you mean the pill? If so, it dries up breast milk supply if you are BFing.

charis ... josh's apgars were 9 at 1 minute, 2 at 3 and 5 minutes and 7 at 10 minutes. I've been too scared to search the 'net and find out what 2 means, but I suspect it means beating heart and not much else. I really don't want to know. It's scary to even remember that whole experience and it's much easier when I can hold him or see him when I'm thinking about it.

Tabby

30-01-2007, 03:36 PM

Mim: meds as in tampons sorry. silly me lol
by the way these cramps are horrible!!! Feels like its aggravating the c-section internally

Cordelia

30-01-2007, 04:31 PM

Hey everyone,

Just got back from the child health nurse - caitlin is doing really well... she's put on a kilo since birth... which makes her 3kgs so the nurse is pretty happy - still tiny tho!! She made it to the growth chart in the purple book so that's worth celebration!!

Even tho her adjusted age is 1.5 weeks she's doing things that a 6 week old should be - like gaining head control and following objects with her eyes and making noises and there's been a few smiles here and there. I think she must be a GENIUS!!

Our mother and baby classes start next Tuesday - I'm really excited about meeting other mums because NONE of our friends have kids - nor plans to in the near future!!

mim: I was having your exact same problem and the child health nurse told me to keep her really active and talk to her and play with her during the day after feeds - and not allow those sleeps until they're clearly very tired. and she has been sleeping 6 hours a night now! It changed overnight literally... mind you she was up all night last night screaming :(

Glad you can join us Sarbear!!!

mim1

30-01-2007, 04:58 PM

cordelia ... thanks for the suggestion. I'll wake him up after I have dinner and try and keep him awake for a few hours. The night he slept the best was the day that he was awake heaps during the day ... we'll see how he goes tonight!

Tabby

30-01-2007, 05:11 PM

http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture055qz8.jpg
heh cant get her hair to stay put.

Cordelia

30-01-2007, 05:25 PM

Tabby that is SO CUTE!

Tabby

30-01-2007, 05:36 PM

thanks Cordelia!
Glad to hear Caitlin is doing so well :yelclap:
Must be the name we chose! :thumbsup:
Katie has also been doing those things that she shouldnt for some weeks. She amazes me to no end how strong her neck has been from week 1 and so alert and the smile was at start of week 4.
Makes it hard to get much done lately, just love gazing at her awake or asleep...
I tried a cloth nappy on her today HA! it was huge~!! will have go the newborn disposables a bit longer yet
mil on her way so I had better go get decent lol
xxx

Cat13

30-01-2007, 05:38 PM

Ahhh...where does the day go?! An ordinary day goes by quick enough (how much washing do these little beings create!!) but we've been flat out with Dr's visits, visitors and getting ready to move interstate this Thu/Fri. This may be my last post for a few weeks because absolutely no free time in the next couple of days and not sure when will have internet back up in the new place.

Cameron's only 2 weeks old and already has a thicker medical record than mine. Nothing serious (hopefully) but his right ear didn't pass the hearing screening test they did before we left the hospital so we were at the audiologist yesterday who found he has mild hearing loss in that ear but his left is almost perfect so shouldn't impact him too much, we just need to keep monitoring. And at my 41 wk US they noticed his left kidney was dilated so he had an US this morning followed by paediatrician this afternoon. Kidney still moderately dilated so could be reflux from bladder back to the kidney (very common in little boys apparently) or a blockage. So he needs to start on antibiotics to protect against urinary tract infection and more tests once we get to Townsville. May improve itself over time and only need antibiotics and monitoring or if severe reflux/blockage could eventually require surgery. But not going to worry until there is definitely something to worry about. Not too keen on the idea of Cameron being continuously on antibiotics for at least the next 12 months but I guess benefits outway the risks.

Hels Bels - hope the soreness goes away soon and things continue to go well with Reece. My DH is excellent too. Would be lost without him, especially at bath time and getting out and about to appointments.

Tabby and Charis - a few posts back you were discussing swaddling. This is an absolute MUST for Cameron to settle or else he just hits himself in the face and gets himself in an inconsolable state. Warm here so we are using a muslin wrap and he ends up looking like an egyptian mummy. Feel mean wrapping him so tight but it works and he usually calms within seconds. But if you don't do it tight enough and he gets those hands free all hell breaks loose!

Sending lots of good sleeping and feeding vibes to all. Looking forward to catching up in a few weeks time with what everyone has been doing. :wave:

Charis

30-01-2007, 06:07 PM

:wave: just long enough here to write YES THOSE NAUGHTY LITTLE HANDS!!!
great about the Katie/Caitlin advances! :smiliedance:
Joshua precious bub! Yep 2 is not good, isn't it wonderful they are with us now, healthy, grizzling amd just beautiful.
SarBear welcome.
Glad someone else asked about 'exercise' post c -section, Liams Mum? in hosp they said 6wks abt sex! 6Wks I said with some incredulity, but its all the same 'down there', funny as my DP is just an almost-DP most of the time. Anyhow the midwife said..'well if yr husband is v demanding, there are other things you can do':laughing: a ridulous conversation, esp as she prefaced it saying 'we;re both mature women' hehhehe
Oops we're off for a walk.
:fingerscrossed: for sleepy nights tonight all!! xx

jacstar31

30-01-2007, 07:00 PM

haven't posted here yet - I just found this thread!!

I am just wondering what pram everyone has got? we still haven't got one yet, I have just used sling, baby carrier and bassinette. would love to hear your thoughts....
currently looking at 3 wheeler steelcraft or valco

Geoffrey is going well - getting very chubby now, looks like he has 3 chins....lol!
had lunch with my old workmates today and he was an absolute angel - slept a bit, looked at everyone intently, its like you can see their brains ticking over...

can't believe i already have my AF back.....what happened to the months of not having it???? i am still breastfeeding and we are hoping to have children close, but now I will have to be careful...

Hels*Bels

30-01-2007, 07:16 PM

Hi everyone,
We had a better night last night, I got more sleep and also managed a nana nap this arvo aswell.
Sorry no personals, haven't been able to sit long enough to do them yet.
About the sex thing... well I think my first priority is being able to sit properly without my "special" cushion lol and also I am still unable to do a pelvic floor squeeze, it's as if there is nothing down there anymore :eek:
I suppose there is no wrong or right time, I will just do it when it feels right and doesn't hurt.

OMG I am leaking so much milk it is running down the outside of my T shirt :eek: I suppose I'd better go and wake the little fella for a feed.

Bye for now.

SarBear_smiles

30-01-2007, 08:31 PM

Thank you for the welcomes everyone....

Karrina - the classes at your Early Childhood centre sound excellent....do you know if all of the centres have those? I have not been yet as at my local centre, the first visit is in your own home and the lady is coming on Friday....I hope they do as they sound like really useful topics...

Also - I am not sure if this has been covered in previous posts but does anyone know the drill with using Infacol on babies under 1 month? I know the packet says 1 month plus however I had a friend who used them once their baby was 1 week old...I think Ivy may be a bit colicy however wanted to check what the go is before I give them to her!

Karrina

30-01-2007, 08:48 PM

SarBear - I would imagine that all child health clinics would have classes like that, maybe in a different format. The idea of this one is that it leads onto its own 'mother's group/playgroup' which continues after the 6 weeks have ended. Maybe give your child health clinic a call :thumbsup: I think/hope it works out as I think getting to know other mothers with babies is important and stops the feelings of isolation.

Tabby

31-01-2007, 02:34 AM

sarbear: Ive used both infacol and gripe water from week 2
I found the gripe water for tummy upset the best as even with infacol she still sometimes didnt burp enough

she burps beautifully now and with no infacol needed some are even that loud they make me jump! lol
so was only temp use as she was prem and am told they can have trouble bringing up wind.

well back to bed for us
hope all bubs are settled and sleeping well xx

3Divas&me

31-01-2007, 10:18 AM

I havent been in here since page 2! This thread is moving along so quickly.

Thought I would quickly pop in while Bridget is sleeping and DD1 is at school!

Bridget is doing well sleeping and feeding like a pro. I feel that second time around it is much easier- dont know if that is to do with me being more experienced, older and wiser or if it is because Bridget is a good bub or a combo of both!:yelclap:

Mums who have had more than one bub- you may help answer a question for me. I had both DD's vaginally and found that after DD1 I could hardly walk for weeks, I was so sore and swollen in the vaginal region- This time with DD2 I had a little discomfort after birth (no real pain) and was feeling really good by day 3 like I hadn't just given birth to a baby at all- Why is this? Is it because I have already stretched that far before that I was simply re-stretching stretched flesh (TMI) or am I simply a freak!!:confused:

Charis

31-01-2007, 10:49 AM

Hiya to Jacstar and Geoffrey again!!

I tried Infants Friend with H last night..INSTANT relief from crying. (Thanks Sugar+Spice I think!!) Really instant! I think it might be a bit like Rennie for our reflux. Actually bubs get reflux with what WE eat..so will try to limit all the stuff that used to give it to me badly. Like chocolate..9months of not eating it..

Oh and the other night, without my contact lenses..I almost washed by hands after nappy change with Gripe Water, rather than Aquim!! :laughing:

H is extremely fractuous from 8-12pm and then last two nights slept 12-6 and 12-7. Hmm guilty Mum..should I be waking him for feeds?? I used to, but really preferred dreaming about it last night!! OOPS! :o

He is so beautiful!!! Was doing a very funny side sleep just now, one ARM over the side of the bassinet and me checking his nose is free again and again :)

Happy day..last day in January to all the January Mums (+dec+feb) !! xx

Hels*Bels

31-01-2007, 11:31 AM

Liviesmum - I have the same problem with being very sore after a VB. They told me it is because I had the ventouse and also my first child so everything was still so tight. This could explain why you found things easier second time around... lucky you!!

I have a question for all the mum's, and I'm after opinions please.

I am BF 100% and it has been suggested that to get bubs to settle well for the night, to give him a formula bottle before bedtime. It is supposed to help fill them.

I like the idea of this, but I am worried about what it could do to my milk supply and also is it likely to cause more wind for bubs?

Has anyone actually put this in to practice?

I have found bub's wind seems to be alot better over the last few days and he is not sick very much anymore. I think this is because his little tummy has got used to the milk now. Maybe I would be best to leave things as they are :confused:

Tabby

31-01-2007, 12:09 PM

lol at your convo with midwife charis!
I would have blushed for sure lol
The clinic sister told me last week to "encourage" longer sleeps now at night, anything up to 6 hrs, if hes gaining weight fine Ide let him go. lucky you I say :D
We arnt getting past the occasional 5 hrs here, but usually 4, how on earth would you tell a hungry baby to sleep longer like the sister wants me to I dont know. seems all it would do is make her cranky and harder to settle until shes ready to sleep longer. Im quite happy how it is till shes ready to go longer.
cat13 :fingerscrossed: bubs kidney is better by time tested again. good luck with the move and hope it all goes smoothly for yous

hiya jacstar31 and welcome! I also got af already and with a vengence! :mad:

hey hels:
Cant help you much on the added bottle feed from experience sorry except if was me I wouldnt for a couple of weeks yet. See how he goes..
Katie only went 3 or 4 hrly (mostly 3 ) for the first 3 weeks and bubs should get longer as weeks go on, now we are 4 or 5 with occasional 5n a bit. To me its to be expected in the early weeks to not sleep so long between feeds and in time as weeks go by he will go longer anyhow. How long does he sleep for nights? It is rather early days yet for yous and as the weeks go by youll find him settle better/longer and easier im sure. just my opinion xxx

liviesmum: your very lucky hun, both my first were vb and I suffered about the same with both. It may depend on the actual birth, the pushing stage and time etc? plus being your 2nd not sure...

Mil arrived 5pm and Katie stirred so she leaned over going "wake up wake up!" and I said if you wait shes dues to wake on her own soon and wont be cranky like if you wake her now, noooo she did it again and lo and behold Katie woke grizzly as! :banghead: thank goodness she lives about 2 hrs away and only visits once a week! what makes ppl so damn inconsiderate just because she hasnt seen her for a week she couldnt wait another half hr grrrr. They stayed for 3 hrs as was so had plenty of katie time, not like was rushed. sorry whinge over lol

anyhoo! Another good night, 5 hr and a 3n hlf then a 4.
ah well dishes etc await, least im dressed before noon today..just lol

Karrina

31-01-2007, 12:15 PM

Hels if you want to maintain good milk supply then it is important NOT to supplement feed. I believe formula does 'fill them up and make them sleep more' because it is not as well digested and takes longer to break down whereas BF babies will wake more due to milk being digested easily. The other thing with formula is that their poos are sticky and real smell!!

I guess it depends on what you feel is more important and how important 'longer night' sleeps are. Maybe it is a question that you could post to the lactation consultant who is in the breastfeeding section of bubhub.

I BF my DD fully for the first 6 months and then we changed to formula - I really noticed the difference in poo's and the smell. I am hoping to BF this baby as long as possible PLUS the benefits of weight loss. I have lost 12 kg in 3 weeks:laughing:

mim1

31-01-2007, 01:14 PM

Joshua stayed awake from 7pm til 1am last night. A lot of that time was playing with him. Thanks Cordelia for that suggestion. He was SO tired cause he was so sick in hospital that we were barely allowed to hold him and no visitors could hold him cause it wore him out and he wouldn't be awake for feeds. So, it's a different concept to actually play with him and keep him awake. I'd been trying to just feed him and put him to sleep. No wonder I wasn't being that successful ... he wanted to play. I slept from 1:30 til 5:30 overnight, which was great! Then from 6:30 til nearly 9:30. I am tired, but it was a much better night.

i have a few things on my wish list though ...
I wish I could work out when he's finished a feed. I think i've worked it out then he wakes up hungry again 20 minutes later, or he sleeps for 3 - 4 hours ... same cues! Go figure!
I wish i could work out the best time for a nappy change ... he usually fills it after a feed, but it could be 5 minutes afterwards or an hour afterwards. If I change him after a feed it wakes him up and then he won't go to sleep ...
I wish I could work out if he will stay asleep or not. He can appear to be well feed, dry, asleep and happily wrapped up and then half the time he'll stay asleep and the other half of the time he'll wake up and want food, attention or a nappy change.

I suppose that's what makes 2nd time around easier. It's more difficult to read his cues than I expected.

liviesmum ... i suspect that every birth is different and it's not necessarily due to the 2nd baby thing. My Ob said that I tore on the outside, but inside there was plenty of room (sorry TMI) so no bruising or tearing inside. I suspect that if there is damage inside as well then it would be quite painful. I expected heaps of pain from everyone's stories, but despite my 2nd (almost 3rd) degree tear I only felt uncomfortable for a week and i've been off painkillers for the last 4 days or so.

jacstar ... we got the mountain buggy urban elite. we love it! It had great reviews. Of course, we haven't actually used it with Joshua in it yet, but it seems to be very good ! :)

dragonflyblu

31-01-2007, 01:34 PM

hels*bels i agree with karrina, if your bf is working well then dont risk opening a can of worms with formula. I think the bottle not the formula causes wind, but formula can cause alergies etc etc etc.

Oh and like Karrina I am 100% BF and loosing weight, now just need to start walking more.

I am reading all these posts an all these newborns seem to be in routines. My bubs is still having booby as she wants it and the longest sleep is 4 hours. She wakes at 3am and wont go back to sleep, doesnt cry just wants a chat. How are demand feed BF mums getting bubs to sleep longer? I am going to ask at the child centre thing next week, for some ideas. Tabby I am with you, how do you make a hungry newborn wait for food???

The white noise cd is working well, I really recommend it. Its a bit strange having a cd of what sounds like a plane engine, but the other night it worked so well she went to sleep at 6pm. instead of 10pm, the bad side of this was that she missed out on her cluster feeds she usually has between 6-8 so she woke all night for booby!:laughing: last night we waited until after she was fully feed. I have also discovered if I massage her belly and while she has no nappy on I gently push her legs to her belly, this gets her to fart and burp. I try to do this at about 5.30pm before she gets unsettled. This along with the white noise means we havent had another arsenic hour for 3 days!:fingerscrossed:

Wow this is the longest post I have written yet!:yelclap: and all one handed!

dragonflyblu

31-01-2007, 01:37 PM

mim1 just read your post, I am finding it more and more difficult to read Clea's cues as well. A few weeks ago if she was hungry she chewed her fist, she had one booby, stretched, I changed her nappy burped her and gave her the other boob. Now shs just cries, doesnt chew fist very often and hardly ever tells me when she has a dirty nappy!

sugar n spice

31-01-2007, 01:45 PM

well i had a good nite last night. ash played on his mat for a little while grabbing his toys and tugging on the. gave us all a laugh.

this morning i went to feed him and he gave dh and i a big smile.

today has been so busy and im exhausted. i took my oldest son to preschool came home then had to go out to chn. he is 55cm long now and weighs 5kgs, so the chn is happy.

came home for an hr fed ash and then had to get ds from pre school. he loved it, so thats good.

so i havent got anything done. i have a ton of washing i need to hang up, my bathrooms and toilets need cleaning and the floors are in a good need of a mop and vacume. oh well always tonight i suppose.

2s'nuff

31-01-2007, 05:56 PM

A couple of general answers to some questions about the 'how long after'. These are from my the printout my OB gave me:
Driving - Avoid driving distances for up to 6 weeks. Short diistances ok when you feel ready. (I have been driving my manual Astra from 2 weeks with the seat right forward so I don't have to stretch my leg out so far).
Tampons - Can start with first period if you are comfortable.
Sex - can be resumed when loss has stopped or when you feel comfortable and ready. Suggests using a water based lubricant to make sex more comfortable.

MyaAlCo...Hope the pain in your (*)(*)"s has subsided. I gave up on BF ove the weekend as it was too draining for me to continue expressing and keep up with DD1 and DD2. I just reduced the amount I was expressing slowly and had greater gaps inbetween. Had a couple of apinful days but things are returning to normal - DH will be disappointed when he gets home next week:laughing: .
Tabby...only the occasional backache here after my CS. Seemed to be on days when I do lots of sitting feeding etc.
Mim1...I understand about having to change bub continually. Had to do it with DD1, and TJ has had a couple of sickie days lately where she manages to cover herself and everything around her.
Cordelia...Yah, 3kg! I remember when DD1 finally reached that mark. She was 6 weeks old exactly. Has bub has her 6 week checkup yet? Make sure they check for signs of a hernia. Not to scare you, but often small premmies are prone to this. DD1 had one and was operated on at 6 weeks to fix it.
Jacstar...I've got the Steelcraft Pheonix pram/stroller. Fits nicely into the Astra (with room for groceries) and is great to move around with.
Hels...I'd only start to FF before bedtime if you felt Reese wasn't gettign enouhg in that end of day feed. While still BFing, I gave TJ a FF at that time because I found I'd run out of milk and she never seemed to settle (as if my milk didn't have enough grunt left in it by that time of day).
Sugar...forget the house work, just keep up with the washing.

We've had a busy week so far. Have been out shoppping twice, first shopping centre pi$$ed me off as there were no trollies available with the baby carrier, so we're avoiding that centre for a while. DD1 is at a friends today as I needed a catch-up sleep and my Sister has offered to have her on Saturday night for me.

Good and long sleeps for everone

Karrina

31-01-2007, 07:18 PM

More on BF Dragonfly Blue

I find that DS wakes every 3 - 4 hours (more like grunts for booby) during the nights BUT during the day he can sleep for 5 - 6 hours :no: and then needs to be woken to BF.

Better run DH just finished cooking dinner!:wave:

Cordelia

31-01-2007, 07:36 PM

I'm missing neighbours so this will be just a short post!!!

Charis: The midwife said that a full night's sleep for a baby was 6 hours so that's a good thing!!

Mim I'm glad it worked for you!! Unfortunately Caitlin has gone back to screaming til 1am... I think it's colic again... the midwife said that it starts at 2 weeks... and seeing as Caitlin's "adjusted" age is 1.5 weeks it could just be starting... I'm PRAYING that that's not true - because we had such an awful first couple of weeks. :( She's asleep now - yay! however, I hope that means she doesn't sleep later :(

mousebrown - thanks for the advice re: a hernia - yikes!!!

I am so in awe of you mum's who have other kids - I keep saying to my DH - what will this be like when we have other kids?!? I devote the entire day to Caitlin - I just can't imagine what it would be like with another precious child to give attention to!

GOsh now, I've missed out on 4.5 minutes of Neighbours

Karrina

31-01-2007, 07:41 PM

Forgot to mention that a baby's crying PEAKS at age 6 weeks - so most of us have that to look forward to.:rolleyes:

Babies 'grow out of' colic usually by the age of 12 - 14 weeks, so I guess we will be grinning and bearing it over the next few weeks and months. Oh well at least it is only short term:yelclap:

bossoflatch

31-01-2007, 11:04 PM

good evening to all!!!

thanks everyone for your well wishes... starting to feel better - after the infection and all, nearly finished all the antibiotics and am not sure if that is why bubs is so unsettled, all she does is sleep and feed....

i have a question thou.... for those that are keeping bubs awake for periods at a time - what / how are you doing it??? i can't seem to get tayla to stay awake . she is usually very alert after a feed - will look and move her hands for a little play but then she gets v. tired and trying to shut her eyes for a sleep.... usually this takes place for only 5 - 10 minutes.

another question that i have for those breast feeding. are you feeding off one side each feed or are you putting bubs on one side for 10/15 mins burping and putting on other side???

for the last three days i have been putting bubs on one side for the entire feed and letting her stay on that side until she finishes. I have been finding that she has more wet nappies but i am very uncomfortable on the other side - as it means she doesnt' touch that boob for another 6 hours if i keep doing it this way?? any thoughts ??

sorry to make a long post - but was also wondering what is the average weight gain - i have been looking on the net and they say as long as bubs has several wet nappies during the day and that they are content - then they are likely to be getting enough.... i weighed tayla today and she has put on 160 grams in a week, - is this average or not quite??? she is not even birth weight yet???

again sorry for the long post but don't get on often anymore and i wrote this morning but lost it and couldn't find the time to write it again...

sweet dreams to all :laughing:
leisa

Charis

31-01-2007, 11:40 PM

Just a shorty..as bub almost asleep :fingerscrossed: Only 10.40pm YAH

Leisa, I've been told (+ doing) the always offer the other side, after they finish with the first side. Then you start on the side they were last on next time. I have a stretchy bangle (sounds gorgeous hey!) and it swaps sides on my wrist.. Boobs fine, just full as in early morning!

Sleep well all. Proper post tomorrow. xx

sugar n spice

01-02-2007, 04:17 AM

at this point in time i feel like kicking my husband out and leaving him.:crying: i know he needs sleep for work and i volunteered to the feeds but i cant do this 2.30am feed, nurse him for 2 hrs and then get back up at 6.30 for my other kids. i have only had 2hrs sleep. it takes me a good hr to get back to sleep.
he didn't feed him at all yesterday. my floors havent been mopped all week.:banghead: i feel like i have to do everything. i hate my husband:crying:

Cordelia

01-02-2007, 04:35 AM

oh sugar :( how frustrating. I hope he gets his act together.

leisa: the midwife told me to stick to the one breast for each feed but to use the other one next time. This could be due to the fact I had a lor of milk. I'm staying doing this unless the other breast feels engorged in which case i'll give her 10 minutes on that one. Also, the average weekly weight gain is 210g and they like babies ti put on between 150 and 300g so it sounds like tayla is doing perfectly!!

ps I keep caitlin up by singing, talking, pulling faces, tickling, massage, bath... until she looks sleepy (sometimes 2 hours!) but she used to only do 10 minutes... I think if bubs gets sleepy then you're supposed to let them sleep!

speaking of which, Caitlin looks like she's about to drop off!! (finally)

~J'dore~

01-02-2007, 08:35 AM

Regarding feeding, it's important to let them fully drain the first breast before offering them the second, otherwise they are only getting the foremilk from both breasts not the fatty hindmilk. Then offer the other breast first next time. It's also important because if you don't completely drain the breast it can lend to blocked ducts and mastitis:thumbsdown: Believe me it's soooo painful.

Cooper slept for 7 hours last night:smiliedance: 7.30 to 2.30, then at 5.30.
Sugar I know what you mean about not being able to get back to sleep before the other kids wake up, I think I just need to start going to bed earlier at night.

My hubby has never done any of the night feeds, I'm bf'ing though. But even when I've said I'd express so he could do it he said no:thumbsdown: , to be fair though he doesn't cope well with lack of sleep and I'd rather him be active and happy during the day than do a night feed and be a right off the next day.

Well, my nipples are still not happy! It's been over 2 weeks now and everytime I think they are getting better they get worse again. So I'm going to try expressing for the next 2 days to see if that'll give them a chance to totally heal. I think I'll do 'fix' one side at a time so he's still feeding off one side so he doesn't forget how to suck properly.

I hope everyone has a great day

xx Denise

dragonflyblu

01-02-2007, 09:48 AM

leisa I BF- If she is having a long feed, like when she has just woken up, I do one side then buro and offer the other side,. If she is cluster feeding I just give her one side for a few feeds to let the other side build up a bit and then give her the other side. This is when she is feeding every 15-30mins over a couple of hours. I find that then she usually has a realy long feed as the last one on the side I havent used much. I was swapping but it was just too hard. Over the 2 hours clusetr feeding she eventually drains both sides completly.

I find that if I try to keep Clea up she just gets cranky and then screams.

I just bought a moby wrap (same as a hug-a-bub) now I have 2 hands to type with and I am even making breakfast. It is so cute, Clea is sound asleep with her little hands tucked under her chin all fetal like.

jdore sorry about your nipples, I am paranoid about that happening, hope they heal up quickly.

Sugar hope your husband feels guilty and gives tyou a break soon. I would hand him the baby and a bottle and go for a walk or drive as soon as he gets home from work.

Charis

01-02-2007, 10:29 AM

Hi!
Hugs to you Sugar! I hope the daylight has made the world better, the hardest thing isn't it taking each day at a time and also realising it will get better. I think DFB is on the spot about bottle+Ash to DH+drive/walk. Leaving them is not always the answer! My almost-DP comes over and the relief when he even just holds H is palpable. Not that I realise it until then!

I have a new 'system' :laughing: for the word system!! Last night bathed a bit after 8pm feed..then cuddled and pretty much feed continually till 11..(well sleeping/feeding/sleeping..) No burping/change at the end..just carried him to bassinet. Then H was SO sleepy and this is the tremendously GUILTY bit.. slept from 11-7! YIKES I don't think that is good, but too late now. I did set my alarm, but !!??:eek: Very wet nappy, but not dirty at all, so am now highly paranoid that he has a bowel constriction....of course he was up, fed, played (15mins..) and is again asleep. So will keep monitoring the nappies!!!

Sugar again.. if Ash is wonderfully over 5kg is he still on newborn nappies?? All the best for day 2 pre-school today hope it gives you a bit of a break. You know it gets better..though more than 2days away seems like a lifetime I agree!!

DFB great about the white noise. I did it the night before last..but not last night. Singing Silent Night !((badly!!!!!) was the only music invoked to the little milk-drunk.

Hels hope all is happy and beautiful for you three. I agree with the others.."give him some time" replies. Nothing is a system it seems or a routine for a long time.. I guess we set it with 3-4hr feeds (HMM THAT I DIDN"T DO!) and the same pattern of going to sleep. But beyond that its anyones guess. Warm bath for H-y last night certainly was nice and made him even more cuddly.

Karrina! Awesome weight loss..I have no idea, but did see a rib today! Tabby sorry to hear about yr MIL issues, hmm not v considerate of her.. but great she lives a bit away. Mim1 I like yr list of dunnos.. about their signs. Must say his crys are nothing like the baby-whisperer (yet), except the windy one. They really have no idea about their environment or what they are feeling either!! I like the elimination of possible issues approach.

Hmm 1/2hr of work.. Happy days!! xxS

sugar n spice

01-02-2007, 10:53 AM

hey all. daylight now so another day. im exhausted but getting everything done. i must be getting close to being supermum :laughing:.

dh woke up this morning and said he dreamt i kept yelling at him.:rolleyes: i said it was nooooo dream:laughing: men

charis - ash is in infant nappies, has been for a couple of wks

~J'dore~

01-02-2007, 11:18 AM

I've got Cooper in infant nappies now too, he's not 5kg yet (4630) but I was finding that he would wake up during the night with his nappy really full only 2 hours after feeding, I'd change his nappy and then he would 'think' he would want to be fed again but then only feed for a minute and then fall asleep, waking up hungry again after an hour!! After a few very loooong nights I decided to try the bigger size nappy so that it wouldn't feel so full on him and now he's sleeping great! Even went 7 hours last night:smiliedance:

Hels - If you feel like you have a lot of milk in the morning then express some off and save it to give him at night. Often the morning milk is better quality apparently, so it should help him settle more. (This is what my midwife suggested with DS1 and it's worked for me, haven't needed to this time yet.)

Hels*Bels

01-02-2007, 11:39 AM

Thanks for the advice about the formula top up. I agree with what you have all said and will give it more time. Last night he was waking every 2 hours and just "snacking" on the boob. At 6.30am he did the same thing, so I thought maybe he just needed to be changed and cuddled and not fed again, so we only did this. Well, he slept until 10am!! and then I fed him fully on both boobs. So it's really a case of trial and error.

Loads of posts in here today so I will catch up properly later as we have got MIL coming over in an hour.

Just one thing I wanted to share though...

Because Reece was born on Aussie day he gets a commemorative silver spoon. Then the hospital rang yesterday to say that there is a good chance that he could be the first Aussie day baby to be born in the whole country (at 12.41am). They already showed a couple on TV from the Royal Womens who claimed this, but they didn't give the birth time. Apparently it is all worked out on the central database when all the births have been registered. This would mean that he would also get a certificate and most likely we would be featured in the papers etc.
How exciting!! I'll keep you all posted.

Have a great day everyone :)

sugar n spice

01-02-2007, 12:10 PM

here is my post from the jan thread. from luvmytum.

hi all Luvmytum - sharyn has just had a baby girl. This is what she text me.

It's a beautiful perfect baby girl, Isabella Nicole Khoury. born at 7.01am 31st January.
3.180 kilos ( 7pnd) 50cm long. Mum dad and the little angel are all happy and well.
Waters broke naturally and labour was long (13hrs) with too much epidural but she popped out with 3 lots of pushes in less than 10 mins without me feeling a thing.

Congratulations sharyn on Isabella. Well done

tired*mummy

01-02-2007, 12:34 PM

Hi Everyone

Firstly, Congratulations to LuvMyTum. Great news, glad all is well.

Sierra is doing well, she had increased her feeds so i've been a little stressed as i'm not producing alot of milk. I dont express enough for a feed, so i have given in and bought formula. Will see how i go first but wanted it as a backup. She had been feeding every 2-4hrs and even if i express every 2hrs its still not increasing. Plus i'm finding it hard looking after all 3 and expressing every 2hrs. I feel really guilty about buying formula today but its getting really hard to do everything, especially without DH here.
Been a little stressed other than the feeding issues. DH is at work and i had to drive him there today as one of our cars is being fixed. So i had to get all kids up and ready and be at DH work by 8am, not too good when you havent had much sleep. Then drive home and take DD2 to daycare (first day today).... then had to do some grocery shopping. Was a bit stressed about that as i didnt know how Sierra would go. She was an angel though so that was really good, and now i have DD1 kinder introduction today at 3.15pm. After that i have to pick up DD2 and DH up from work... so rushed. I know i've already over done it today as my tummy, scar and back are hurting quite a bit. I was so stressed last night about everything i had to do today but so far its worked out really well... i dont know why i stressed so much. Probably just because i've been worried about coping with 3 kids. But all going well so far :fingerscrossed: it stays that way lol.
Sorry for the winge.

Hope all are doing well,
Take care
:wave:

2s'nuff

01-02-2007, 03:06 PM

Hi-ya girlies

Leisa... I always BF one side at a feed, offering #2(*) if bub didn't seem to have had enough. Like J'dore suggested I understood that the 'good stuff' in your milk was at the end of the feed and that you need to empty each boob regularly.
Sugar...:hugs: hope DH starts to help out more soon. You seem to be a bit worried about the housework gettgin done, leave it and/or if DH doesn't want to help with Ashton, suggest he help with it. I had visitors while still in my PJ's the other day. I figure that when TJ starts sleeping through I will start worrying about the housework and getting dressed at a reasonable hour again.
J'dore...going to bed earlier sounds like a good theory. But I can't seem to put it into practice. By the time I've tidied up after the day it's 10.30/11pm every night. Yah on bubs sleep though!
Charis...Yah that bub has had a sleep through for you. Don't worry about it, just appreciate it.
Tiredmummy... :hugs: coming your way. Try not to let the feeding worry you. I only had one other child to look after and I found that after three days on my own, expressing for every feed, that I'd had enough and we're now on formula full time. Don't feel guilty if you want to supplement or go onto formula full time. Remember you've got to be healthy and happy too.

No changes is our house. TJ still sleeping and feeding ok. Though she went from 5.15 to 9.45 pm last night without a real sleep. No matter what I did she just didn't settle properly. She has thrush in her mouth at the moment and we've started Nilstat to stop it.

To those whose bub is already in Infant nappies, don't you just hate the fact that Huggies don't provide these in a box - especially when Woolies have boxes on special this week.

jacstar31

01-02-2007, 03:16 PM

oh you poor thing tiredmummy, that was making me feel tired reading your post!! hope that tomorrow is a better day for you!

Geoffrey is also in infant nappies already, in fact, he is already wearing huggies 6-11kg, as they were on special, little bit too big, but he lasts longer at night in the nappies!

HelloKitty

01-02-2007, 03:42 PM

Hi all, hoping i could joing in on the parenting group. My baby boy was born on Jan 20th. His name is Andy. I only recently got home as i developed a terrible UTI and had horrid fever :no: Andy also had to stay in cos he had jaundice. Anyway, its really nice to be chatting to 'parents.'

hels bels- so exciting about being first aussie day baby.. thats a great thing to boast.
tiredmummy- i def understand the pressure to b/f, i found the middies were very pushy about it. im doing ok but will def choose to formula feed if i need too,
J'dore - WOW what a long sleep. how do you do it?

Has anyone tried Brauers range for wind?

bossoflatch

01-02-2007, 04:09 PM

thanks everyone fo all your thoughts... great to know what you all think!!
it is great to know that my bubs isn't the only one going thru all this ....
:wave: hellokitty - your bubs was born on the same day as mine .... great birthday!!!

will catch up again later - good sleep to all!!!
leisa

sugar n spice

01-02-2007, 04:25 PM

welcome hello kitty - i have used the brauer drops and there ok but i prefer infants friend

mousebrown - ash has been unsettled today but at least i got the floors mopped and tons of washing done.
as had thrush as well but those drops clear it up.
i know what you mean about trying to go to bed earlier but it not happening. by the time i cook, clean, bath kids oranise everything for school and finally get a shower its 11pm. + i like to have some me time.

when dh gets home im off to go shopping for me and then the food shopping.

Karrina

01-02-2007, 04:35 PM

Hles - Looks like Reece might be a special little Aussie champion getting that title!. Good on him! :thumbsup:

~J'dore~

01-02-2007, 06:05 PM

Mouse and sugar - just wondering how you knew they had thrush in their mouths?

LadyLou

01-02-2007, 07:32 PM

Hi,

Jacstar: We have a valco (runabout, three wheeler - older model - was DS's) with the basinett and a scooter for Mr 4. We have been very happy with it. Looked at the new model yesterday - have much more accessories now - but very xy too!

lesia: I am BF bub and BF DS till he was nine months (went back to work then). I find that if I let the "little miss" feed off the one breast each feed (that does mean an eight hour gap between each breast being drained), she gets all the hind-milk and sleeps better. The first milk that bub gets from your breast is very watery and quenches their thirst, then the hind milk is thicker and richer and seems to fill up their tummies and satisfy bub longer (which can mean a longer sleep for mumma :fingerscrossed: ). It has the drawback of one breast being slighty larger then the other at any given time, but the results I had were great. DS was a big bub and a big eater, he was always in the 90th percentile and would put on huge amounts of weight each week (haven't had the new one weighed yet so can't compare as yet). Plus it seems to keep my supply up and am usually very full at feed time and able to satisfy bub. I keep track of when last fed and what breast and estimate when next feeds due. I also sleep bub on her side (she's a bit chucky) and alternate that side after each feed.

Question: Is everyone sleeping their bubs on their backs?

Also - have noticed white coating on bubs tounge - is this thrush? Thought that it might be, but haven't worried about it too much - is it bad? Does it need to be treated? Can it spread? Bit worried now..... Health nurse is meant to visit, will ask her when (if) she comes (couldn't face another day out and about - bit of a homebody at the moment, like bub to get her sleeps).

Anyway - sorry for the long post......

Take care!!!!

Hels*Bels

01-02-2007, 08:20 PM

Sorry, it's just me with a quick question again.
I have got a small lump in one of my boobs, it feels like a small hard cyst or something. I have tried to massage it and push it towards the nipple, but it won't budge. Is it likely to be a blocked duct or something more serious? It only hurts when I have milk onboard but not after feeding.
Do you think I should see the doctor?
Thanks.

Charis

01-02-2007, 08:40 PM

Hi all:wave:
Hels, sounds like its still there after feeding, hmm, yes if you're worried about it see a Dr. The (.)(.)s do settle down about now, a week after and are generally softer and most lumps all gone. Hope its all going well with little Reece!!

Karrina

01-02-2007, 08:43 PM

Hels - try expressing to drain that boob, massage in a circular motion at the same time and maybe have a hot shower just before or apply heatpack before expressing. That might just fix it if it is a blocked duct! Otherwise if that doesn't work I'd be off to see the doc:o

Charis

01-02-2007, 08:49 PM

Welcome Hellokitty!!! Glad yr all well and home now, lovely time to enjoy being a family!!

I used 'my son' in conversation today!!:smiliedance: Actually a 2 hr meeting that my Mum was 1/2hr late for 1st babysitting!!!! yikes!

Liamsmum, its called 'white tongue' or something, i read it in the child health book/leaflets. said not sick, but is just cos they drink milk all the time :laughing:

Sugar great abt shopping for you! and mopping!!

tiredmummy, wow, a hard day for you! :hugs: for tomorrow being better.

xx off, fracturous bub. sleep well!!

mim1

01-02-2007, 10:18 PM

Joshua has put on 215grams since Sunday! I knew he was a gobbleguts, but I didn't realise how much! It's such a relief! No more waking for feeds at the 3 hour mark ... he can now demand feed! Yeah! I had a 4 hour stint of sleep, then a 3 hour stint last night, so that was good again! Mind you, dh is now trying to settle him cause he won't settle now.

I read Baby Love by Robin Barker today. She says that the hindmilk/foremilk stuff is nonsense and that you don't need the baby to completely drain your breasts to get the hindmilk ... apparently there are different amounts of hind and foremilk at different times of the day. Her recommendation is to just consider it all breastmilk and not to worry. She also says that to limit each side to 20 minutes per feed and then offer a top-up at 1 hour if bubs still hasn't settled.

I hear a crying baby coming my way ... have a good night everyone!

btw ... i'm an aunt again! yeah!

Cordelia

01-02-2007, 10:20 PM

I heard today that if you have a colicky baby something good to do is to express 50mls from the rbeast yo'll feed from to get rid of the sweet runny foremilk which is what apparently gives them gas. I'm going to give it a try tomorrow.

thrush looks like bits of white in their mouth that doesn't go away when you rub it (milk will go away). You need to see about it i was told.

Charis - cool about dropping that in conversation - I haven't used "my daughter" yet.

Hellokitty - hi there :) I hope Andy's doing well now!

I'm sleeping Caitlin on her back - trying to do the right thing. But when I put her on her stomach she looooves it - settles almost immediately. I'm wondering if the benefits outweigh the risks....??

mim1

02-02-2007, 06:33 AM

The midwife suggested that I can put Josh on his tummy to go to sleep, but to turn him over onto his back when he actually falls asleep.

I've had 3 hours sleep so far and I thought my little man was asleep now, but the baby monitor says otherwise ... better go!

bossoflatch

02-02-2007, 07:56 AM

WOW!!! i cluster feed Tayla last night from about 6 till 10 pm and hubby put her down for me just after and she slept until 5 am!!!! OMG - but i did keep her on the same boob for about two three feeds in a row - wanted her to get the hind milk and then i would swap her... i think i will try it again tonight - she woke with a huge wet nappy which was great and other than that i didn't hear from her :smiliedance:

hels*bel - i had that with my first bubs and it was a blocked milk duct - very painfull before feeds and would cry when bubs latched on - i would get a few hot face washes and put on it as bubs is feeding and try to massag the lump gently - you may not be able to touch it :fingerscrossed: but mine turned into mastistis (SP) and had to take antibiotics - so try the hot packs but if you get a temp / fevers you should see a doctor...

hope everyone has a nice days playing with their babies !!!

leisa

tired*mummy

02-02-2007, 08:43 AM

Morning Everyone,

well i was exhausted by the time i got home yesterday but everything went well and Sierra was an angel all day. First night of a formula feed too and she slept from 8:45pm til 2:45am.... 6hrs couldnt believe that. I went to bed at 11, thinking she would wake around midnight. I'm happy i got a bit of sleep and today i dont have to go out anywhere or do anything really besides a bit of house work, so might be able to catch up on a bit more rest before the weekend.
My (.)(.) were very sore and were rockhard when she woke up at 2:45, so i had to express just so i could lay back down on my side lol. Just going to try and express little bits every 8-12hrs and hopefully it will dry up soon.
Hope everyone is doing well.
:wave:

dragonflyblu

02-02-2007, 09:23 AM

cluster feeds...they are tiring arent they? but i love seeing that big wet nappy and the exhausted milk drunk look on the last feed.

i just remembered someone asked if i had the minimink... sorry cant find the post! yes it is us and yes i love it, i use the cotton side in the heat, and the fluffy side for pics.

Clea is still going well, she has her 'fussiness'on and off now rather than all at once, much easier for mum to cope with. Funny how we call it fussiness when it is a god awful scream! well better go I am dripping everywhere, must be time for a feed!

cate

02-02-2007, 10:02 AM

hi to all on the 'other side':wave:

Hunter not getting to sleep till 2.00am. i have been doing everything to release wind for him tonight. much better. What is infacol??

arh..H-y is sleeping now after one handed feed..best rock off to bed:sleeping:night night.

Charis Infacol is a god send!!! Audrey has been a little burping farting machine with such pains in her tummy- infacal is basically a liquid form of De-gas tablets for adults. You've got to give it to them before they feed or in the bottle - Audrey has been on for 2 days now and it so much better. She still gets a tummy pain but now only does one big fart or burp rather than struggling with heaps!

sugar n spice

02-02-2007, 11:10 AM

hi all. glad your all coping well. ashton was so grizzly yesterday. seems a bit better today. it was so good to get out the house last night for myself for a couple of hrs. I got a huge food shop done and bought some cool clothes.

ethan had his second day at pre school today. i pick him up at 12. next wk is 4 full days then wk3 3 is 5 full days.

dh was up doing work on the comp last night so he had ashton so i could sleep
all he had to do was feed him and then put him in the rocker and bring him in when he was asleep.

i sleep ashton on his back but last night i gave him belly time on his play mat and he fell asleep for ages

wish it was safe
i think he'd sleep better then.
Hels sounds like a blocked milk duct to me.
oral thrush is like a white coating on there tounge. we were told to go to the chemist and get the oral drops and if it didnt clear up to come back. it did though. otherwise the dr said it could be blocked milk on the tounge

freddie

02-02-2007, 01:50 PM

hello mummies!
wow, lots of questions and discussion which is really helpful. We saw the child health nurse yesterday and Hamish has put on 680gms in the last 2 weeks so he's just over 1kg above his birth weight (4 weeks old today). what a little champion! My milk supply is still unsettled and I never seem to be really full - probably because he feeds 2 hourly apart from longer sleeps although that is usually only once during the day and once at night at the moment. The nurse said to feed him for 20mins each side as they get most of the milk (fore and hind) in the first 10-15 minutes anyway. Then if they want more you can keep going. I find that by early evening I don't have enough milk and have to top him up with formula but am trying to limit it to two lots of 60ml at around 5 and then around 9ish. We gave him more and earlier had to feed him formula in the night as well and he slept fantastically but I'd rather BF if I can so will pursue that.
On the sleeping front, I find that if Hamish is tired but not going to sleep - especially just before bed at night or in the middle of the night - I lay on my back and have him on his stomach on top of me. He loves it and goes to sleep then I can put him to bed on his back. Its lovely but I've developed sore boobs like a kind of a heat rash in response to it. Dr didn't offer much in the way of a solution but at least the mastitis has cleared after the anti-b's. Hels, I found a heat pack and/or hot shower on the lumps, drain the boob and massage towards the nipple and the blocked duct goes away pretty quickly. I've read to massage while you're feeding as well.
sorry about the long post, I haven't had much of a chance to get to the computer for a while and can't manage the one-handed-while-feeding yet!
Hope you're all enjoying your lovely babies. Mine is so precious, I just love the grumpy face and big stretch when he's finished a big feed and has milk all over his cheeks!
kx

bossoflatch

02-02-2007, 06:33 PM

what a great day we had today.... she slept so well last night and she had a great day... she slept, pooed and was very content....

We took her to a cranial osteopath on wednesday ( i had a six hour labour but only five minutes of pushing - was told cranial osteopath is great for after the birth process) and she has been like a new baby!!! granted we have only been two days later but she sleeps better doesn't cry too often (really only when really overtired) and when she does a no 2 she usually screams =- but now she just smells :laughing:

starting to find things that she likes to do - she loves her face being rub - caressed , will stop crying immediately when i do it - ( daddy is abit offended coz she doesn't when he does it ;) ) i even do it when she feeds and she will do a half grin instantly... so cute!!!

i suppose i am just so suprised how different she is from my older two !!!

freddie - I totally agree with what you said about the grumpy looking face and the spilt milk after the feed - they are so cute...

will catch up again later-- sweet dreams to all...

leisa

Strawberry_Shortcake

03-02-2007, 10:06 AM

Hi Ladies,
Sorry for not writing anything before now but just have been really busy since bubs been born. Now Talon is sleeping on my bed i've just finished reading this thread and I will endevour to keep up with it all lol.

I can't beleive Talon is 5weeks old yesterday, gee how time flys when your not pregnant. Took Talon to the clinic the other day and he has put on 360grams in 1 week so i'm pretty happy with that.

Hubby is still on holidays , still has 2 weeks to go (got7 wks off). Its been good having him home, as he has done most of the cooking. Got Talon's hand and feet sculpture from Twinkle Toe done the other week and what a wonderful job they did. Very happy with it.

Anyway must run Talon has just woken up.

Hope everyone and their bubs are doing well.
Take care
Kelsxx

Charis

03-02-2007, 10:21 AM

Happy Saturdays all:wave:
Leisa that is really interesting about face stroking, I will certainly try that !! I was just going to add MUSIC!! You know those daggy 'music for baby' CDs well we got a couple as pressies. Thurs nite almost-DP put it on really loud, Brahms first track..and H stopped crying immediately!!! And ended up going to sleep! He spend an hour crying with my Mum yesterday until she put on Sri Ram, some gentle hippy chanting..I know we'd hardly the first parents to discover this.. but had kind of forgotten it might work :yelclap:

Thanks for all the infacol recommendations, will give it a go!

Freddie, yes also love that satiated look:) Do all their eyelids get that silvery pink look??

Hels hope the lump has gone and they are settling down.

MouseBrown + others, yes about tummy sleeping, he was doing it yesterday at Mums, until his heavy head pulled him over the side of the firm mattress he was on and did a face plant..(a few cm) which I was watching. He woke up trying to move him back.

Does anyone have cot mattress recommendations?? ie: who has best range? Hunter is beginning to do Houdini activities in his bassinet: arm+leg over the side (like us with our pillows in pregnancy), but with the arm gets his elbow over and pulls himself to the side! Also kicks and pushes with his legs so hard he ends up with his head almost at the other end...and he looked SO tiny in it 3wks ago!!

Jacstar+Geoffrey, we have an old emmaljunga off ebay which has the bassinet also that he sleeps in now, and a superdooper 'running' pram Bob Revolution.(light,suspension,one-handed open/collapse etc etc) A Mountain Buggy would've been just as good and actually full reclines.:o

happy days to all the beautiful bubs + Mums. Hiya StrawShortcake again.. hope T is going v well!

mim1

03-02-2007, 11:52 AM

Yesterday was our first hot day since bubs came home. We took bubs with us to visit my SIL and her new baby and boy was it hot outside! We took dh's car and used his car seat for the first time. It's very plush and nice, but it's grey, so it got quite hot, despite the window shade. I remember seeing a car seat cover that you can put over your carseat when you leave the car, but I have no idea where I saw it. Has anyone else seen one of these somewhere?

Joshua took ages to feed and settle overnight. He slept from 10:30 til 1:30 (good start), but then it took 2 hours to feed and settle him and the same thing happened at 6am. Thankfully he slept from 8am til 11am and only took an hour to feed at 11, so he's sound asleep again. I think I get lazy overnight and impatient and don't let him feed for long enough, so he wants second helpings 10 minutes after I put him down. It's hard to be patient when you're exhausted though isn't it? Not helped by Joshua getting overtired as well. I finally settled him at 8am this morning by rocking him on my glider chair ... it actually worked!

We get our bookcase today for the baby's room ... it was being stained. I'm looking forward to it, cause it means we'll have somewhere to put the cd player. I've got a baby music cd too (somewhere!), so I will look for it and try it out tonight if he won't settle.

2s'nuff

03-02-2007, 04:14 PM

Welcome HelloKitty and congrats on the arrival of your bub.

Thrush - My nurse picked up on the thrush. She used a cotton bud and tied to wipe the white milk from TJ's tounge. Some came off (was milk) but her tounge was still white. She Said to give Nilstat up to 4 times a day (barely a drop) for 10 days. If you are BF it is also a good idea to rub some on your nipples too as you are likely to have thrush on them.

Liams Mum...TJ seems to settle better when on her side. Though if she is exhausted she'll settle on her back.
Cordelia...I chose tummy sleep for DD1 over the SIDS risk as having reflux she never settled on either her side or back. In the end it was my sanity (the fact that I was about to lose it) that made me choose.
Mim1...I understand what you mean by the night feed frustration. For a few nights I don;t think I was burping TJ enough as I was too tired which of course meant it took longer to settle her. For the first-timers, your bodies should soon begin to cope with less sleep. After 3.5 years of disturbed sleep (DD1 was up twice last night) I've found some inner ability to keep going when all I really want to do is crawl into bed and sleep all day.

All ok here. My sister has taken DD1 for the afternoon and night. Might mean I can catch up on some extra sleep tomorrow morning. Thurs morning DD1 was awake at 6am, when TJ slept until 7.15. This morning as TJ was settling from her 5am feed, DD1 woke, which killed any chance of heading back to bed for me.

Hope everyone has a good weekend.

Hels*Bels

03-02-2007, 08:49 PM

The lump in my boob has gone, I did some massaging and it just went all by itself, phew.
I also think that my boobs have settled now with the right amount of milk as they don't feel engorged anymore. I know bubs is getting enough though and when I pull him off sometimes he has milk running down his chin and sometimes out of his nose! He is such a guzzle guts!!
Yesterday we kept him awake for some play time during the day and I fed him 3 hourly. Then last night he only woke 3 times but went straight back to sleep afterwards, so we didn't have to settle him once YAY!! :smiliedance:

We went shopping today with him, I could only mangage 2 hours of walking around and Reece was a bit grizzly today, I think from the heat. We bought him a couple of size 00000 wondersuits as he is still so small and they fit him perfectly. I have heaps of other clothes that are bigger so he will grow into them soon enough.
I also got some new clothes for me too, most of my size 10-12 stuff doesn't fit me yet :thumbsdown: But the good thing is that I have already lost almost 8 kgs in 8 days since the birth, so I have about 6 kg to go :yelclap:

We mostly sleep Reece on his side, this is because his head is still sore from the ventouse. The hospital said it was ok. We have one of those anti roll pillows either side of him so he's not going anywhere in the basinette and we also have the angelcare monitor for peace of mind. I haven't put him on the tummy at all yet, I will wait until he is bigger.

Hope everyone is well, have a great weekend :)

Cordelia

03-02-2007, 09:31 PM

Lots of messages to catch up on!!

It's good being the w/e and DH can spend some time with caitlin keeping her awake in the day... last night was horrific.. I was up with her until 1:45 with her crying and eventually went and booted DH awake and went to sleep (within seconds) and he reckoned he had her to sleep in 10 minutes... how frustrating! Altho he could be exaggerating - who knows!! She let us sleep in until 9 this morning anyway.

I think I've said this before re: music. (Im just so fascinated by her reaction) Being a music teacher there were certain songs that were played over and over whilst I was pregnant by students and myself and it's REALLY clear that caitlin picks up on these. What's funny is that she'll not really care about nursery rhymes that I sing to her but when I play a heavy metal song by Breaking Benjamin that I was working on with one of the school rock bands for a concert she immediately goes calm and looks like she's at home. I hope this isn't an indication of how her teenage years will go... :P

Charis from what I gathered there isn't a huge cot mattress range?! Is that right? We had a choice of 3 which were all good safety standards - bought the middle priced one that you can take the cover off if it gets yucky - hopefully that won't happen with plastic sheet protectors.

Well Caitlin is 6 weeks old today. Which means I have to book in for my 6 week check. Does anyone know: Caitlin's 6 week check with the Child Health Nurse is actually at 10 weeks given that she was 4 weeks early. It says she needs a 6 week check from the GP too - is that at 10 weeks as well? I'll just ask GP when I go but Im' not sure if I need to book a double appointment in case she wants to check her out at the same time as me.

The first lot of injections will be coming up too!! Yikes!! I think I might get DH to take her to those :o

sugar n spice

03-02-2007, 11:30 PM

hi all. we are going to move ashton into his own room tomorrow so that will be strange. The cordless phone i have though has a room monitor on it so i tried it for the first time a minute ago and it picks up a whisper really clear so im going to use that at night time.

Cordeilia - ashton was born 4 wks early and still has to have his check up at 8wks like normal as that is when they get there needles and im also due to have my checkup then. the drs surgery miss calculated the wks and had us both booked in at 7wks though so im going at 7wks for my checkup and to get the iud fitted and then i changed ash's till 8wks as he cant have the needles earlier. He had his 6wk check up last wk.

Tabby

04-02-2007, 10:52 AM

Not been on for a couple of days as Katie has been restless as this last 2 days. Feeding every 2.6 hrs or 3 hrly and hard to keep settled. Even the infacol or gripe water didnt seem to help. Seems to have gone back to normal since last night tho as shes sleeping better now and settled fast again. phew!

Hels: glad the lump has gone and alls good now.
I had the biggest trouble finding 00000 and 0000 doesnt seem much better. Have only 2 0000 singlets at the moment and most the 00000 clothes are getting too short and now the stores have near to nothing of summer stock. cant win!

mousebrown: Hope you got that extra sleep you wanted.

my hasnt the time flown, 6 weeks! but it is such a great time for babys. The constant new things the learn and do from now. I was watching Katie poking her tounge in and out last night, was so cute! shes also trying to reach out for my face when I get close.

Better run..need to catch up on things not done last 2 days while she sleeps.
Hope everyones having a great weekend and all bubs slept well xxx

Jenko

04-02-2007, 04:09 PM

Hi Ladies :wave:

I haven't had a chance to read all the posts but thought i'd better get my backside over to this thread.

Koby is doing well. He had a few unsettled days to begin with, especially day 2, before my milk came in. He is tongue tied, which means he has a short frenulum, making it difficult to breastfeed. Hopefully he will get in snipped wednesday so that should make it easier for us....all i can say is "ouchy mamma" my nips are taking the brunt. My DD is t/t too but in sydney they wouldn't snip it unless under general anisthetic (sp?) anyways...:fingerscrossed: we get in wed.

He's :sleeping: really well atm, hope it stays that way. Early days (day 5), just taking it one day at a time.

Hope everyone is doing well with their precious new bubs...

2s'nuff

04-02-2007, 05:25 PM

just a quick one as DD1 has woken from her nap.

Cordelia...I thought the 6 week checkup was 6 weeks from the DOB no matter when bub was due. That is when DD1 had her checkup and when I've booked DD2 in for hers.

Tabby...yep, got some extra sleep this morning. Almost feel human again today. Where in Perth are you? (PM me). If you need some 0000 clothes I've got some that DD2 has almost grown out of that you can have.

Lisa

mamabearof3

04-02-2007, 05:49 PM

Hi can I join in
Our newest and littlest addition is Ariane born on the 19th January, right on time with a great birth.

We also have 2 boys 7 and 4.5 and they are besotted and constantly wanting cuddles and to pick her up at the slightest noise.
She is pretty settled though so can often squeak and squirm and resettles if I can keep the boys from picking her up.

I'm looking forward to travelling this journey and reaching milestones with a group of people going through the same things.

sugar n spice

04-02-2007, 06:45 PM

welcome mumabearof3. happy to have you join our group.

Ashton has been pretty restless today.

DH seems very grumply lately and snappy. he gets more sleep then me as he falls asleep just like that and it takes me ages to nod off. He says hes tired yet he doenst go have a rest or go to bed early. Its kinda like he is the one with the pnd. I just seem to get on with it all.

Katie. best n less and target are great for 0000 clothes.

We moved ashton into his room today so will have the room monitor on our telephone going tonight.

Tabby

04-02-2007, 08:26 PM

Just a quickie as DP has gone to get dinner :thumbsup:

Thanks Mouse! Have pm'ed you.

Thanks Sugar, will go check out best n less this w.e. The target near us had very little. Not a overly big target..Hope Ash settles nicely into his room :fingerscrossed:

Hi! mamabearof3 and jennasmum :wave:

Good sleeps tonight all
xxxx

Vicki

mim1

04-02-2007, 08:34 PM

welcome mamabear.

i find the opposite problem with clothes in target ... the only summer stuff left is in 00000 and a little bit in 0000, no 000's in sight! mind you, that was 2 weeks ago now ... my how time flies!

I can't believe some of you have 6 week old's already! Joshua is 3 weeks old in a few days and I can't believe how quickly time has flown!

I don't know how those of you in hot areas manage. Today was a really hot day and it affected Josh more than friday. i think it got hotter inside. After a feed late afternoon I left him in his nappy and put a light muslin wrap over his body and legs and put him in his cocoon. he wouldn't settle. dh moved him to be closer to the portable air conditioner we have in the lounge room and he fell asleep instantly and slept for 2 1/2 hours.

After he woke up he didn't really feed properly though. He fed for about 10 - 15 minutes on one side and then fell sound asleep. I bathed him, trying to cool him down and wake him up, but then he only fed for less than 10 minutes on the other side and he's sound asleep now. Do you find that your bubs aren't so hungry when it's hot and just want short feeds? he has feed a lot today and maybe he's just full, but i'm not sure.

dragonflyblu

04-02-2007, 11:14 PM

mousebrown good to hear we will get used to the lack of sleep. I sometimes feel like I am so tired I can barley form a sentence and then I have an hours sleep and then bubs needs me and somehow find the energy.

Jacstar Glad to hear you have found the power of music, and strange music like chanting, as well. Our bubs has been so calm since we play her the white noise, but it makes me sleepy too!

charis we are using an emmaljunga bassinet as well :yelclap: we love it, and have started taking her out in the stroller attachment, I love her having so much room.

Hels*bels glad your boob has fixed itself up. I had a bit of a lumop today and massaged it while she feed, seems to have gone now but my boob feels a bit bruised.

tabby our bubs feeds that often has well. I am getting used to it. I hope she stays settled for you and hopefully we wil all get used to the constant feeds and lack of sleep.

mamabearof3 welcome and congratulations! looking forward to chating with you.

Today we bought baby powder (corn starch one from aromababy) and a makeup brush to brush it in her little fat folds. Thought it might help on really hot days. She loved it and smiled the whole time we were brushing her arms and legs and under her chin. It was so cute.

aries_moon

05-02-2007, 08:31 AM

:wave: Just saying hi to the mummies! I should be joining you by the end of the week at the latest, can't wait, it's taking ages though that's for sure!! Love everyone's baby photos too, so gorgeous. CHARIS, your sms is coming soon now I promise, lol, sorry you've had to wait so long to do an announcement!!:D
well sleep vibes to you lucky ladies with bubs, and please keep sending me labour vibes!!:wizard:

Tabby

05-02-2007, 08:39 AM

Aries_moon: Labour Vibes coming your way!!! All the best for a nice labour and speedy recovery so you can join us here real soon !

Cheeki: Are you emptying one side at a time totally? Maybe express as well? as the more you/bubs take out the more your body makes. Just a thought, Sorry if thats not much help but is the only thing I can think of. We have also just gotten out of being unsettled for 3 days and the gripe water was also useless then. I had thought it was a wind problem/tummy ache as she was farting like a trooper lol. It started at 5 n a bit weeks also so maybe its a growth spurt? whatever it was it seems to have gone. Hope they settle for you real soon.

Finally Kaitlyn seems to have gone back to being more settled. we got 2 x 3 hr then a 4 and a half, heres hoping those 4+ ones are coming back.
No idea why she changed. Here I was thinking we were close to allnighters when she was going 4-6 hrlys for 3 weeks till 4 days ago when she all of a sudden wanted feeding every 3 hrs or less.

Feeling rather argggh this last few days, moody, teary etc. Maybe its just the lack of sleep.

Tried cloth nappys on Katie other day and still too big lol. Lucky woolies had huggies on sale this week, ah well, an excuse to postpone those loads of nappy washes :laughing:

Hope you all got a good sleep!
Am off out at 10ish so better go get things done while she sleeps.

xx
Vicki

LadyLou

05-02-2007, 11:42 AM

Hi

Off to Dr today for 2wk post ceaser check-up. Going to get him to look at bub and maybe explain gag reflex thingo she's having (??). Hoping for some answers about that - and also about what went wrong with the birth. Still down about it after nearly three wks:gloomy:

Other then that she is just a perfect little girl. Sleeps really well - self settles (most of time) and have plenty of milk at this stage - so can't compain. Bubs didn't wake till around 10am this morn and DS slept in till 9.30am - so am one happy mumma today!

Another hot day here. Took bubs to uncle's yesterday, stoped at shop to get a cake for arvo tea and had to fed the little miss, put her back in her carseat to drive the 5kms to his house and heard this almighty vomit from the back seat, seems the entire breast full came back up. It was all over her and the carseat. It ended up pooling under the carseat - yummy! Guess she was too hot poor little thing. Wiped it up best I could, but with the ceaser and the heat couldn't face removing the carseat then and there and giving it a proper clean (DH wasn't there, with my mum - aka driver!) - car is parked in the sun right now, wonder what smells await us later......... Kids! Gotta love em!

Anyway - good to here most of us are getting some sleep!!

Take care!

T Bear

05-02-2007, 11:46 AM

Hello all you lovely lucky mummies, I posted this in the "due in Jan" section, but thought I should post here too since this is where everyone is hanging out!

Hi guys, I'm still here and waiting... waiting... waiting... (insert bored, fat, hot, frustrated smilie here).

Yes, feeling VERY frustrated today, I just have to get this baby out of me! The weather on the weekend was vile; I can�t stand really hot weather at the best of times � but 41 degrees at 41 weeks pregnant, not fun!!! The forcast is for 36 today, but a cool change coming and only 26 tomorrow.

I had an appointment at the hospital yesterday, and all is still well (heart rate, my blood pressure etc) and I'm a bit further dilated (about 1.5 cm) and the cervix is quite thin so I'm all ready to go, it's just up to the baby now. At least I now have an end date; if I haven�t gone into labour by Wednesday morning my midwife will rupture my waters to induce labour. I always thought I would want to avoid an induction but I would definitely rather be induced than wait any longer � and they won�t need to use prostaglandin gels so I should still be able to stay in the birth centre.:fingerscrossed: If I don�t go into labour within 24 hours of having my waters broken (or if there is meconium in the water) then they will need to use a syntocin drip to get contractions going in which case I will have to go to labour ward � but the midwife said that 9 times out of 10 labour will start spontaneously soon after the waters are ruptured. I�m still really hoping that something will happen of its own accord before then of course.

Aries-Moon how are you going? :fingerscrossed: Hopefully it's all happening for you!

2s'nuff

05-02-2007, 12:09 PM

Welcome to Mamabearof3 and congrats on the arrival of Ariane.

Sugar...Sometimes men can be a little :rolleyes: bit insensitive, especially when it comes to sleep. DH flies in tomorrow and I'm expecting him to do the same as your DH when it comes to sleep.
Mim1...If bub is a bit unsettled in the heat, try offering a bottle with water instead of the boob. He may simply be thristy.
Cheeki...Good to hear you are still with us. I'm sorry, but I don't envy you with the twins. As for producing more milk, I can't offer anything other than to suggest keep you fluids up. I too (with one bub) found I couldn't keep up with bubs demands).
Liamsmama...Hope you get some answers about bub today. Does she spew up her full feed regularly? How is she when she feeds, does she attach and feed properly or mess about lots?

We're having a bit of an unsettled day at the moment. Maybe as Tabby suggested a growth spurt?

DH flies in tomorrow, looking forward to having another set of hands around to help out during the day and especially the evening.

Lisa

freddie

05-02-2007, 02:12 PM

cheeki I'm worried about my supply too - nothing left by the end of the day and even in the night after a long break there wasn't enough for him. I'm ok by morning but never 'overflowing'. Yesterday Hamish fed hourly and only had one sleep - for an hour when we went for a morning walk. Needless to say he crashed at 7.30 and had a big sleep just when I was having dinner etc. so I didn't get much last night! today he is sleepy and hardly hungry at all so hope that all settles!
well I thought he was in for a longish lunchtime sleep but has just woken so :wave:
kx

tired*mummy

05-02-2007, 02:54 PM

HI everyone,
T Bear & Aries-Moon hoping things wont be too much longer for you :fingerscrossed:

Sierra has been really good, 3 weeks old tomorrow. A few unsettled moments since i started the formula on Wednesday but she's still been very good. (.)(.) are still a little sore, i havent expressed at all and i think the milk has nearly finished drying up.

Today is very hot, cant wait for the cool change to come thru. Hopefully its not too much longer.

Had some bad news today, my Grandpa passed away at 2pm. We were expecting it too been soon as he has been really sick but its still a shock when it finally happens. So will probably be going to see my mum later on too keep her company and just be there for her. My mum and her brothers had already organised all the arrangements for him as they knew it would happen very soon.

Hope everyone and all the bubs are doing well.
:wave:

cate

05-02-2007, 03:04 PM

[QUOTE=Cordelia;1077276]Lots of messages to catch up on!!

I think I've said this before re: music. (Im just so fascinated by her reaction) Being a music teacher there were certain songs that were played over and over whilst I was pregnant by students and myself and it's REALLY clear that caitlin picks up on these. What's funny is that she'll not really care about nursery rhymes that I sing to her but when I play a heavy metal song by Breaking Benjamin that I was working on with one of the school rock bands for a concert she immediately goes calm and looks like she's at home. I hope this isn't an indication of how her teenage years will go... :P/QUOTE]

I've got so much to catch up on - it took me a few weeks to even find this thread let alone read nearly 20 pages and then have time to post!!!

Cordelia, I totally hear you about the music thing - I'm a music teacher too. Audrey is going to be an expert at a basic rock drumming beat as she spent most of her time inside me next to a snare drum! She also really reacts to Scissor Sisters which was huge with my year 11s last year! She sleeps with music that we've collected on the ipod under "Audrey's Sleepy Songs!" - a really wise range from Augie March, Bill Frissell to good old slow movements from Mozart Sonatas!

Things are going fairly well - I've had some troubles with cracked nipples but have been using shields and no problems - my supply dropped off a little initially and we supplemented with formula - I'm consciously trying to rebulid the supply now with lots of expressing in between feeds!

Audrey sleeps really well - usually feeds at 10am 2pm and 6pm and 10pm but the nighttime feed has started to stretch out from 2am to 3am this morning and then she slept to 7:30pm! The wind problems have settled and generally she's very happy.

I read a great book from the library the other day - "Why is my Baby Crying?" by Bruce Taubman. It's about responding quickly and more importantly accurately to your baby's cries so she doesn't get into that full on screaming state! It also gives really good advice so that you don't get frustrated and upset yourself!!! Good reading if you can find it!

Gosh what a long post! Hey, any Brisbane mums who can recommend a way to get out and meet other new mums? She's obviously too little for me to get in touch with playgroup; I'm just not sure what else is out there???

Hope everyone is doing well and getting lots of nanna naps! I'm going to have one now!

Hels*Bels

05-02-2007, 03:17 PM

Welcome mamabear :wave: looking forward to chatting to you.

T Bear and Aries_moon - Nice to see you both in here. If you get the chance to read through the thread, there's heaps of useful info here for when you both have your bubs :thumbsup:

Tabby - Glad to hear Katie is settling now. There is nothing worse than feeling over tired. I haven't had a good sleep since being about 3 months PG

mim1 - I enquired about the frequent feeding during the heat and the nurse said it's quite ok and we can also give bubs about 10ml of cooled water from the kettle if needs be, but no more than that.
I BF every 3 hours during the day from one side each time. Then I give both boobs before bed and he goes down for 5 hours. This seems to work well.

Tired*Mummy - Sorry to hear about your Grandpa, sending hugs to you and your family at this sad time :hugs:

Re the small clothes; I found the bonds wondersuits in size 00000 are a perfect fit, I got 2 from Target. Also some baby shops sell smaller clothes for premmies or small babies.

Reece leaks a bit through his nappies, we are using huggies newborn disposables ATM. I think it's because he has skinny legs so they don't seal tightly. I have started putting a bummis pul cover over the top which has fixed the problem. I have got some fitted cloth nappies but I won't use them until he is bigger.

We had the Maternal health nurse here this morning. Reece is gaining weight so that's good, he is almost back to his birth weight after 10 days :smiliedance:

She had a look at me too as I am not happy with my stitches and how everything looks "down there" and she agreed it doesn't look right. So I have to get a referral from my doctor so I can go back to the OB to get things "tidied up". I am still sitting on a cushion and feeling quite sore and uncomfy so I will be glad when things are back to how they should be.
Other than that, everything is going really well.

Charis

05-02-2007, 08:04 PM

Okay lost it.. I was reading a work email with the word 'minimum' in it.. nothing strange about that.. I spent some time wondering what a mini mum was!! Gosh and I really am sleeping!

Bubsone big congrats on the birth of Trent!! Hope all now going well at home and big hugs to you all!!

LiamsMum what a great :barf: story.. I really thought you were going to write, she hit the CAKE! That would have added insult to (nasal) injury!!

Freddie :) and Cheeki28, I really have no idea about breastmilk, but at first Mothers Group meeting today at Child Health..the nurse said breastfeeding is akin to walking 20km each day.. (Which I used to love, bushwalking!!) but I guess akin to this energy consumption. So I think she was saying we have to EAT and sleep to compensate, okay forget about the sleep bit. :smiliedance: Though am sure we're all eating heaps!

On the eating..I think I'm now 2kg heavier than I was before preg..3wks out. I guess that is 10kg lighter! yikes. Bubby weighs in just over 4kg now.

Sugar, hugs for you. V hard looking after all those boys and the sleep sensitive DH. I think living singly is hard, well it is, I need another ARM..but also when H sleeps it is all my time.

Hels, I got a C-section scar check at home, its weird isn't it, I imagine this is where you had your examination!! Happy Reece night again!

TiredMummy, v sorry to hear about yr greatgrandpa and your bub+others greatgreatgrandpa. I hope he knew he was such an esteemed 'pa'! Very sad time for you and yr Mum. :hugs:

Cate, welcome back !! Lovely to hear from you.

Mamabear welcome also and Ariane is such a gorgeous name!! Congrats on your bub.

Oh I knew I was on here tonight to impart 2 x wisdom (!! LOL!) The first was when you really really really can't get them to sleep don't forget a topup feed. Could do nothing else for H-y last night and then, of course, boobs! Just for 5-10mins and he slept and slept!

The other bit was at 'Parents Group' the 5 S's were discussed.. SWADDLING with arms down..not up as I was doing, SWINGING, SHUSHING, SWAYING and can't remember the other but we're watching the video next week.. H-y is the youngest there, with a lot of lovely 12wk old bubs.. they are still small but so much a part of the world. Hunter is v v cute and lovely though.

Got to the point of really wishing I wasn't working today. V V little interest in it and did have a bit of a cry about it, before emailing my fellow director in Melb and saying 'you do some!'. Anyhow all okay now, well I'm not crying and H is asleep and I have washed the dishes.. he he.

Happy sleeps girls !!

~J'dore~

05-02-2007, 08:57 PM

Charis - hi:wave: I was just wondering what the info was on swaddling with the arms down not up, I've been doing arms up too, I thought this was the right way (it's how the midwifes did it in hospital).
Anyway, would love to know what info you were given. Thanks:thumbsup:

xx Denise

sugar n spice

06-02-2007, 06:46 AM

i think you will find that if they have there arms up they get out of the swaddling easier

Tabby

06-02-2007, 07:02 AM

Tiredmuumy: sorry to hear of your grandpa's passing :hugs:

Hels: I was the same when preg, I think it helped get me ready for the tiredness. Somehow we seem to just keep on going dont we.
Glad to hear Reece is almost birth weight, Speaking of leaking, for the first time katie was wet through this morning, picked her up and muslin wrap was soaked lol. Probably as she is having water now. She really does hate the water though, should see her face once she realises its water and not milk lol. We get about 5 mls in before she wont take it.
Hope OB gets you some relief "down there" real soon.

Charis lol @ minimum. Thanks for the morning giggle :hugs: . My 15 yr old son asked me what planet I was on yesterday as I think preg brain is still with me. my excuse? "IM TIRED" I shout back lol. We have a great laugh about the things I say / do lately though. wonder what excuse I can find once shes sleeping through the night though :laughing:

Sounds like the arms down swaddle would work better for us anyhow. Katie keeps wriggling them out! Will try that next wrap up. Partner keeps saying I make her look like an Egyptian mummy haha.

Sugar: hope you had a settled night :hugs:

Well I was feeling quite "sad" for a few days.
No idea where / why, just was. I think ive picked up a bit. Ive no reason to feel this way, Katie is awesome! DP is great and Im the happiest I have been in 20+ years. maybe a delayed bit of the blues, is that possible? Thats what it felt like..
Katie is back to good sleeps for sure now.
She went 4.6 then 5 hrs. Tho I only went to bed after the 4.6 so only had about 4 hrs sleep and cant go back to bed as have a 8am appointment I would have had to get up again at 6ish am so wasnt worth the hr. A good mummy nap in order later thats for sure.
yaknow what I think keeps me going? I go to Katies bassinet in the mornings when she wakes and say "Good morning bubby!!!" and she gives me the biggest grin in return! oh my its so worth every bit of sleep loss to see that and it keeps me going for the rest of the day.

Well better go get ready!
Hope everyone had good zzz's

Vicki

Jenko

06-02-2007, 08:49 AM

I just posted this in the due in jan thread, so thought i'd move it in here too...getting a bit confused to where i am lol :confused:

Well we are going pretty well here. Koby is getting his frenulum (tongue tie) snipped tomorrow so that should help with his attachment for b/f and my ease my sore nips a bit.

He's has unsettled times, but still gives us a few good big sleeps. And feeds like a monster.

Re the swaddling, definately try arms down, or across their body. It' those jerky lil hands that wakes them up. My houdini can get out of them pretty good, but i'm getting better at wrapping him.

1 week old already! :D

Will try and catch up on personals later.

3Divas&me

06-02-2007, 10:35 AM

Absent for a few days and boy o boy theres alot to catch up on. I am finding it hard to find time to get on the computer and visit the group. There always seems to be so much to do!

Had a bit of a scare last night. :eek: I have one of those movement mats under Bridget when she sleeps where the alarm goes off if it does not detect movement (breathing) in 20 seconds. At 3:24am this am the alarm went off. I jumped out of bed so quickly and ran over to check Bridget. She was fine and definately breathing, so I reset the mat. I have no idea why it went off but it surely freaked the hell out of me!

I am a firm believer in swaddling. I find that Bridget sleeps longer hours when I use the bigger wraps and she is wrapped tight and cant get loose as opposed to the smaller wraps that she wriggles out of or loosens up. I wrapped DD1 til she was 10 months- this was because it was the only way she would sleep. If I put her to bed unwrapped she would scream til she was and then she would sleep.

I have a few muslin wraps which are great for the summer heat but I do find that the wraps which dont have much stretch in the fabric are better than the wraps with a bit of stretch- anyone agree?

Its amazing what each of us find that works and not works for us all.

freddie

06-02-2007, 11:59 AM

Interesting swaddling discussion, I would have said that Hamish hates having his arms tied down - when I put him to sleep at night he usually has both arms stretched up above his head, palms open 'don't shoot me' style. But he does get very wriggly in the night and wiggles out of the swaddling so it sometimes goes over his head. I've started putting him in a gro bag cos I was paranoid he'd suffocate himself. You can't keep the arms down in a gro bag! Might try the tight swaddling though just in case.
Tabby, I reckon your sad feeling would just be related to tiredness! The only time I've really felt weepy is when I'm totally exhausted. I cry but don't really feel down, just generally emotional.
Charis, hope you can get on top of your work soon. If you ever want a chat or some help, if I can, let me know, you're a superwoman doing this on your own. The 's's' sound pretty sensible - I think I've got the shsh-ing and swaying bit happening instinctively! The Baby Bjorn is brilliant for morning naps while I do the washing (again) etc.
have lovely days everyone,
kx

2s'nuff

06-02-2007, 12:28 PM

I've been swaddling TJ with her arms out for the past 4-5 nights. I found she'd get too stressed and not settle when I tied her arms down.

Have moved onto the next size teat and am finding she settles better both during the day and at night. I think she was taking in too much wind when trying to suck on the smaller teat.

TiredMummy...sorry to hear about your Grandpa.

Strawberry_Shortcake

06-02-2007, 01:41 PM

Hi Ladies![/

Tiredmummy - Sorry to hear bout you grandpa :hugs: :hugs:

jennasmum - My son was tongue - tied, got his tongue snipped and i found he attached great after that. We took him to a dr in Mount Gravatt in Brisbane

I took Talon to the clinic today for his weekly weigh in and he has put on 400grams in 1 week. So he's over 4 kgs, which i'm really happy about. I was worried at one stage i wasn't giving him enough milk, but all is good. As for the swaddling, Talon HATES having his arms tied down. He likes his arms out of the blanket when he sleeps.

Cordelia

06-02-2007, 02:43 PM

Hi everyone,

A nurse told me that swaddling with their arms up was to help reflux becaues I was doing my arms down but I still do arms down because she wriggles out really badly!!

This morning was the first mothers and babies meeting type thing at the Community Health Centre. It was good to see our mums and babies at the same stage - altho i'm shocked at how far behind Caitlin is! She was the oldest baby at 6.5 weeks and yet the smallest, and sleepiest, can't support her head very well, doesn't make the same coo sounds... i felt quite depressed! So I went home and we started practicing feverishly until I realised that that was ridiculous and she is perfect and she'll do everything in her own time anyway!!

She's finally over 3kgs! Very exciting. She's putting on an average of 200g a week so that's apparently fine. I just can't believe how chubba the other babies (same only 2 weeks old!) are next to her. I have to stop comparing!!

liviesmum - i would freak out if that happened! I'm glad everything was ok!

Well, I'm leaving Caitlin with my sister and going to the library! What a pleasure! Have to be back in an hour to feed her so I'd better flyyyyyyyyyy....

SammyG

06-02-2007, 05:14 PM

Hi Mummys,
I have finally caught up on all posts since Michael was born on the 31st Jan and can finally join in.

Tiredmummy, Sorry about your Grandpa, I hope your mum is ok.

Liviesmum, exactly the same thing happened to me yesterday with my angelcare. Michael did look dead to the world he was sleeping so soundly.

Anyway so far, so good with both boys. Ben had to have a baby bath today just like Michael (he would get into the capsule, cradle and pram bassinette if I would let him) I'm getting a little frustrated with everyone trying to get Ben to talk about his brother. I know they are all well intentioned but he just wants to talk about himself and i don't want him to feel jealous of Michael and all the attention he has been getting.

Question: Who is using dummies and BF? Sometimes I just have to get Michael to settle quickly before he unsettles Ben and I have been using one with great success. Ben was a very sucky baby too. BF seems to be going well, I'm demand feeding every 2, 3 &4 hrs during the day and he is already going 5hrs at nighttime for at least one feed. My (.)(.) are still leaking like crazy, the 2nd breast offered has usually filled a breast pad by the next feed. I thought it was a bit odd they were taking turns to leak but I guess it makes sense that only the 1st is fully drained.

Sorry about the long post, sleep vibes to all! :wave:

sugar n spice

06-02-2007, 05:39 PM

bengsmum - i am bottle feeding and using a dummy. ashton is a little unsettled today and im drained

Jenko

06-02-2007, 05:50 PM

Question: Who is using dummies and BF? Sometimes I just have to get Michael to settle quickly before he unsettles Ben and I have been using one with great success. Ben was a very sucky baby too. BF seems to be going well, I'm demand feeding every 2, 3 &4 hrs during the day and he is already going 5hrs at nighttime for at least one feed. My (.)(.) are still leaking like crazy, the 2nd breast offered has usually filled a breast pad by the next feed. I thought it was a bit odd they were taking turns to leak but I guess it makes sense that only the 1st is fully drained.

Sorry about the long post, sleep vibes to all! :wave:

I'm BF and i've used a dummy a few times, coz of K's tongue tie i'm reluctant to use it as i don't need more confusion. He's getting tongue snipped tomorrow so if i need it later may still use one.
I know what you mean about the leaky boobs. I absolutely soak a cloth nappy letting the other boob leak whilst feeding. I hope that all slows down soon.

Strawberry Shortcake - I'm glad to hear Talon is feeding better after being snipped, hope K does the same.

Tired Mummy - So sorry to hear about your Grandpa :hugs:

Cordelia - We had a few premmie bubs (35wks) in my mothers group with DD. They soon catch up. They were the cutest lil bubs ever.

Hels*Bels

06-02-2007, 06:02 PM

BenGsMum- Great to see you in the thread :thumbsup: I am BF and use a dummy too, but only as a way of settling him when it's needed and I don't use it as routine at bedtime. Reece is good at suckling too. He has a small tongue tie but they are not worried about it and it doesn't affect his suckling at all.

Re the swaddling, Reece like his arms up. He screams if we tie them down. I don't have any problem with him sleeping so I am happy to let him have them up. Each to their own I suppose.

Question; I was wondering what time does everyone put their bub to bed at night? We put Reece in his basinette (in our room) when we go to bed (around 11 pm) and straight after a big feed. But during the day he stays with us out in the loungeroom and sleeps in his cocoon or we play with him on his playgym or on our laps a bit.
I try not to let him sleep all day between feeds or he is unsettled at night. Just wondered what everyone else's routine was like?

I have an appt tomorrow arvo with the doctor who stitched me up after the birth, so hopefully things will be put right down there :fingerscrossed: I had to get a referral from my doctor today. The receptionist said "please have a seat". I had to reply, "thanks but I wish I could" :laughing:

Finally, does anyone remember how horribly swollen my feet and hands were at the end of my pregnancy? Well, it's finally gone down so I have bought myself a new pair of sandals in my usual size 6 and painted my toenails at last. I was so excited with the end result, I just had to take a photo :D

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/General%20Photos/Helenfeet.jpg

SammyG

06-02-2007, 07:01 PM

Hels, I really feel for you regarding the stitches. They took took 45minutes to stitch me after Ben's vacuum birth with his 38cm head and I was still really uncomfortable at my 6wk check. If it's any consolation though it does eventually all feel normal and Dr actually asked if I'd been stitched. The lumpy swelling at 1st had been really scary.

I had a 2nd degree tear this time and I'm still a little sore but nothing compared to last time! Still a bit wary of #2's, haven't done one yet.

Tabby

06-02-2007, 07:24 PM

Hels: Katies sleeps in her bassinet which I wheel into the lounge room in the day. One of the day naps I let her sleep on her tummy beside me on the chase lounge. Play time on the mat and with me on my lap during the day also. Come night its bath time about 8-9pm ( whenever feed due ) and off to bed back in the room where its quiet and dark so she gets to understand that its bedtime when its like that and settles faster..hopefully lol . Seems to be working these last 2 days so :fingerscrossed:

mim1

06-02-2007, 09:28 PM

bengsmum .... Josh loves his dummy and he is breast fed. He needed it in hospital to settle him and help promote sucking cause he wasn't allowed to suck at all for the first few days (he was tube fed). I've kept using it at home, but in reality he doesn't get it that much.

hels ... your routine sounds like ours. We actually have the portacot set up in the lounge room and put him in his cocoon in the portacot during the day. That gives us the option to carry the cocoon to the computer room if we're moving around and he is sleeping. We have a baby monitor for the bedroom, but end up keeping him pretty close to us anyway.

Josh is swaddled hands down except when it's hot. He is a little houdini and usually gets his hands out if he wants to. At the moment he's in my arms, swaddled with one arm out ... he is awake though.

cordelia ... babies definitely do things in their own time, especially at this early stage. Don't stress. Caitlin will be fine!

Jenko

07-02-2007, 07:28 AM

Hels - Great news about the feet. Must be a relief. I know what you mean about the stiches. I had stiches with Jenna, but this time it seems to be worse. I'm still quite swollen down there. I hope you get yours sorted soon.

Routine wise - we're still getting there. K sleeps in his bassinette in his room during the day, sometimes i bring it into the lounge room. Atm he is sitting in his swing, awake but content after a big feed. I tend to keep him awake for a few hours in the morning. At night he has been sleeping really well. Waking once or twice for a feed, going to bed between 7 and 8 pm. Then waking about 5.30am in the morning, so i'm not complaining about that.

I tend to feed for about an hour at a time. About 35-40 mins on one breast and maybe 10-20 mins on the second or depending on how long he lasts. How is everyone else BF and is it this long?

bossoflatch

07-02-2007, 07:57 AM

wow - you miss one day and all the post to catch up on... lol.

how is everyone this morning????

jennasmum - i am bf and for the second week - she was feeding of only one breast and that would be for about 35- 40 mins - now i think that my milk is getting better and her sucking - she is on the boob for about 15 -20 mins sometimes when she starts fussing and still hungry she goes on the other side - having said that some times she just wants a 'drink' and will only want 5 -10 mins- but when she decides she wants a topup - usually - within the hour i will put her back on that side to drain it - this seems to be working for us as she is putting on weight - she has gained about 200 grams in the last few days _:smiliedance:

i guess it is all trial and error - every bubs is different - they say as long as they are sleeping well and have good wet nappies they must be fine- my doctor said that some babies wont even put on weight for a little while after birth but as long as they have wet nappies and content - let them go for a little while... -

tayla slept 8 hours thru the night before last - OMG i had a great sleep - the boys kept waking her from about 4pm when she first went down for a nap and then i put her on the boob everytime she was startled to get her back to sleep and then the boys would wake her again - i think i feed her about 6 times in four hours - What the!!! but then she went down about 8pm - i stayed up till 10 thinking she would stir and she didn't - i went to bed at 10 and didn't wake till 4am - full as in the (*)(*) and had to wake her and even express the other side.. i love the nights where she sleeps thru....:yelclap:

Jenko

07-02-2007, 11:30 AM

:smiliedance: wow leisa (yay tayla) that's great re sleeping thru the night ...hope you get lots of those. Hope i get some soon too, but i won't count on it only to be dissapointed lol.

I'm glad to hear Tayla's feeds got shorter, i figured in the next few weeks we should get more of a routine happening and i do the same, it K only has a short feed i put him back on the same breast to drain it and i think that's really working. Your right, they are all so different, it's just figuring out what works for you and your baby.

Hels*Bels

07-02-2007, 11:34 AM

Sounds like we all have a similar routine, so at least I know I am doing something right lol.
Yesterday we bought a CD of baby lullaby songs and it is the best thing ever !! Reece loves it, he lies in his basinette when we put the tunes on going all goo-goo with a smile on his face and goes off to a contented sleep :smiliedance: We bought the CD from Target, it is a Fisher Price one. I really recommend this to everyone.

I also want to share a feeding tip that was given to us in hospital...

This is for if you have problems with bubs falling asleep on the boob when feeding. They suggested we don't change his nappy first, but start feeding on one side (even if nappy is dirty). Then change him mid way through to wake him up and then offer the same boob or the other side. I do this especially at night so he gets a mega feed and then goes down for 5 hours straight.

Well, it's time for a feed now so I'd better go wake-up both of my boys (DH is having a sleep-in today).

Tabby

07-02-2007, 12:02 PM

YAY think we have found the routine that Katie likes for sure now. As said yesterday I did the same last night. She was fed and bathed at 8pm and decided she would stay awake till next feed at 11.
Fed and she flaked totally till 4.45am. Pretty happy with that.
Decided will make the move to the cot in about 2 weeks if she stays close to that routine.

leisa: Nice sleep! :fingerscrossed: it continues for yous.

uhoh shes stirring as almost time for a feed, will get back later xxx

Vicki

sugar n spice

07-02-2007, 12:21 PM

ashton sleeps relatively good at night but we still have to nurse him to sleep. He has a feed about 8 or 9 then stays awake for a couple of hrs, so goes down about 11 then wakes anywhere between 4 and 6.30 am depending when his last feed for the night was.

jacstar31

07-02-2007, 01:37 PM

Geoffrey is sleeping quite well during night, usually feeds about b/w 10-11pm last feed and then can sleep till 3 or 4 depending...
although each day seems to be different, last night woke at 3am, big feed, back down at 4 and then slept till 9.15am, so am very happy with that.
I am moving him into cot tonight, so hopefully it all goes well!

freddie

07-02-2007, 02:13 PM

wow, sounds like everyone has great little sleepers. Hamish sleeps ok at night - usually from between 10 and 11 for about 5 hours but after a feed I find he often takes a bit to get back to sleep and then he'll sleep for another 2 or 3 hours. Problem is he often won't sleep during the day - yesterday he had maybe an hour while I carried him in the baby bjorn but wouldn't sleep at all until 10.30pm - was definitely tired but no way he was going to miss out on anything. It gets a bit hard when he won't stay in his bassinet on his own and wants to be carried everywhere - my back is starting to feel it and DH has done his back in already! yikes, we need help! am having a midwife visit on Friday so will hopefully gets some good tips and will pass on any pearls to you all.
happy sleeping.
kx

sugar n spice

07-02-2007, 02:20 PM

freddie i understand how you feel having to hold them all the time. Ashton likes to be held all the time and he is getting very heavy

cate

07-02-2007, 03:06 PM

Audrey sleeps in snuggle bed in our room during night and during the day either in the snuggle bed in lounge, in cot in her room or in her bouncer in the lounge. The other night she was sleeping in her cot when we went to bed and I was so stressed!!! I kept worrying that I wouldn't hear her!

Her sleeping feeding times are still a bit all over the place. We generally have a feed anytime from 7 - 10 at night and then she wakes for one anytime from 1 - 3am. The only trouble is she falls asleep and won't take a full feed and then wakes up quite soon afterwards for a topup!! I've tried the changing the nappy in the middle of the feed but she's asleep in no time!

We gave up swaddling Audrey after 2 days....she kicks and throws her arms around so much that she ends up getting really tangled and frustrated. We've got her in one of those sleeping bag which is much easier!

I am bf, using a bottle occasionally and the dummy occasionally. She really loved the dummy for about a week and then just spat it out. Now she only takes it if she's really tired but won't sleep! I'm desperately trying to build up my milk supply at the moment...i'm struggling to feed her fully and am having to give her 50ml or so of formula at the end of every feed. She gets quite cranky when the milk is finished and throws her arms around and smacks my boobs!!

We went to visit my work yesterday...I don't know who was more excited the teachers or the kids! She was such an angel and just slept the whole day in my arms, on the staffroom floor!!! just about anywhere I put her.

Must go and express again!!!

mim1

07-02-2007, 07:24 PM

wow! I wish Joshua would sleep as well as everyone elses bubs overnight. Last night was not a good night. we got him settled by midnight, then he woke up screaming (very unusual for him) at 1am. He then had a mega feed for over an hour, then wouldn't settle. He'd fall asleep and wake up screaming a few minutes later and I mean screaming! He was clearly in pain. Nothing I did made any difference. At 3am I thought he was better so I put him down to sleep. He was screaming within minutes, so dh took over and couldn't settle him after 20 minutes either. We ended up bathing him, but he screamed through that too - which is quite unusual for him. He was majorly overtired and showing all the 'tired signs', but couldn't settle. I then fed him again at about 4:30am and he fell asleep after one side and this time the sleep was a deep one and he didn't wake.

We've got some infacol drops to try and hopefully that will help him. Mum came over tonight and tried to settle him after i'd fed him and she even struggled. Normally he is very hard to settle and he can stay awake for an hour after a feed, but he is just a bit grizzly, not screaming, so last night was rather distressing for us. If it happens again tonight I'll ring his paediatrician tomorrow.

well, he's asleep right now, so I'm off to have a powernap before his next feed.

tired*mummy

07-02-2007, 08:32 PM

Hi everyone,
Thanks for the :hugs:

I feel completely exhausted today, been doing too much housework lol. Sierra has been really good with her sleeping. Will wake exactly every 4 hours over night for a feed. Usually between 1-2am and 5-6am. So its not too bad. I think i'm just used to getting up cause of DD1&2 and getting up every couple of hours when i was pregnant. When DD1 was born i found it really hard to get up during the night and i was SO tired but its so much easier to cope with now. DH has tomorrow off work because of my grandpa's funeral so i might get to sleep in for a little bit or might even get DH to get up tonight for the feeds lol... yeah like thats gonna happen :laughing:
Today was a pretty good day though, Sierra slept most of the day and was very happy for the times she was awake. I think the longest she stays awake for is about 2hours but thats usually later in the afternoon/evening. She sleeps in her bassinet in our room during the night and either in her bassinet in her room or the loungeroom during the day or in her rocker. I have had her in my bed with me a couple of times which i know isnt really a good idea but i find that she sleeps really well and for a lot longer when she is laying right next to me. Dont know if its just a comfort thing for her.

Hope all are doing well. Sleep vibes to all.
:wave:

bossoflatch

07-02-2007, 09:04 PM

hi everyone - heres hoping for a great night for all :fingerscrossed:

i apoligise early for the long post ...
tayla has been so good lately - that i have tried a few different things with her. ie - put her on her stomach to sleep today and she slept solidly for a two hour nap - no grumbles , i also introduced her to the boiled water... she was wanting the boob every hour or so .. not letting them fill so i thought that can't be right and gave her about 10- 15 mls of water and then she burped and went to sleep... i have a question though for those giving boiled water (and breastfeeding) - when do you give it and how much are you allowing??? i mean in this heat i am drinking litres a day surely you can offer it between every feed.... any thoughts...

mim1 - those infacol drops are great - especially when they are little and their bodies are developing the burping reflex... i have been using it for tayla before the feeds and in the beginning i would use it for every feed - now i don't need to .. i have tried cutting it out on every second feed and she is burping by herself now... another good thing to try for upset babies is infants friend... Tayla was the same very unsettled and restless - we also put her on the infants friend - her doctor said it was fine - as they did two different things - and she used to be upset for hours before a bowel movement and now on the infants friend she does a motion and we don't hear her - but we do smell her :laughing:

it says on the bottle - amongst other things - will produce natural, quiet sleep by relieving the child from colic... also a bit about the bowels.. maybe this might be worth a try for you too.... since putting Tayla on these two things we have has a 7 hour and an 8 hour stint thru the night - and as she has been putting on the weight they have been very welcomed!!!!

good luck with it though....

Cordelia

07-02-2007, 09:42 PM

Wow - so many posts to catch up on - I love it!!

Caitlin's routine has been stuffed up the past couple of days due to me going out a lot and visitors and Im' trying to avoid bf in public just because it's so awkward with my (*&*$@$ nipple shield. i'll haev to get over it eventually!

Anyway, she wakes up at 6 - dh changes her, I feed her and while dh gets ready for work I settle her on dh's side of the bed and we sleep til 9 when she wakes for her next feed - then it's feed play sleep every 3 hours until 9pm feed when sh'e bathed and we read to her in the quiet bedroom (she's in the lounge for the rest of the day) and she usually settles herself. Then wakes up at 3. and so starts the day again!

A workmate from school came today for a visit with heaps of goss but i was surprised to find out that I actually didn't care! I couldn't even remember the name of the principal.

I don't know if i have a blocked milk duct or just sore nipples but something behind my npple is throobbbinnnggg. I've tried EVERYTHING. I have to go to the GP in the next few days - i'll ask about it then but OUCHHHHIESSSS

oh! oh! oh! annnnd I thought that Caitlin had been smiling but TODAY... I have never seen anything so beautiful... her whole face just brightened up and i got the most amazingly clear, happy, loving smile right into my ears. I cried with pure schmalzy joy for 10 mins and had to call DH to let him know.. io've been floating on air ever sincel. Please can I keep her!

I hoep everyone has good night's tonight - esp. you mim!

Flicka

08-02-2007, 07:56 AM

Hi everyone. I am new to bubhub and was hoping I could join in with you ladies. I had my DD Kelsey on 10th Jan. I also have a 2 year old son. You all seem so lovely and I am looking forward to joining in on some of your chats.

Tabby

08-02-2007, 09:06 AM

welcome Flicka, congrats on Kelsey and look forward to chatting to you :wave:

Cordelia: I know what you mean about that smile!!!!. I also got the first like that off Katie a few days ago after building up with little grins. Now I get them like that first thing in the morning and sure does make my day. I cant get enough of them

Mim: hope the infacol settles bubs for you. If not maybe try some gripe water as its directed at the actual tummy upset. it may work, Its helped Katie often when so unsettled like that. Hope you got a decent sleep.

A good night here again, 9pm feed / bath and bed till 12.30 then asleep by 1 and awake at 5am. She decided that 5am was a good time to stay up tho and I didnt mind one bit as I was greeted with one of those huge smiles lol. She played for an hr or so and back in bed at 7.

Hope there was plenty of sleeping bubbas
xxx

Vicki

sugar n spice

08-02-2007, 09:17 AM

welcome flicka. i look forward to getting to know you. i have a 2yr old as well.

ash was really good last night. he had a feed at 9.15 and was irratable so i left him with dh so i could get some sleep before the morning feed. i know he was asleep by 11pm and he slept till 6am and is just going down now at 8. So he slept at least 7+hrs straight:smiliedance:.

on the other hand my oldest came down with croup last night so was up and down with him.

Jenko

08-02-2007, 12:14 PM

Hi Flicka - welcome to our thread and congrats on your DD Kelsey! I have a 2.5 year old DD.

Well we had K's tongue tie snipped yesterday, nips still sore but hoping they will settle down in a few days. It was less traumatic than i had anticipated, so that was good. All done is less than 5 mins and straight onto the breast.

dragonflyblu

08-02-2007, 12:15 PM

Welcome flicka

Hi All, I trhink the 6 week exhaustion hit me yesterday. I went to an exersice class at the hospital and must have picked up some stomach bug so I spent yesterday with the runs and vomiting. Thankfully my MIL is here and looked after me and bubs. Clea was wonderful while I was sick, she layed in bed with me BF lying down and smiling lots and lots. he really made me feel better the little angel.:angel:

leisa my bubs BF during the day anywhere between 30 mins and 3 hours. Sometimes I think there cant possibly be any milk left. My boobs never seem to fill during the day. But she is getting lots of milk, lots of wet nappies and poos. Maybe Tayla just wats lots of feeds throughout the day because she sleeps alot at night. So I dont think it is essential to give water.

wow cordelia I take my imaginary hat off to you, what a great routine!

Our day is pretty chaotic, but she is starting to go to bed at 8-9pm sleep until 2-3 and wake at about 6am for a feed. Then she is grumpy for about 30minutes while we change and feed, then she sleeps again. The its anyones guess!

T Bear

08-02-2007, 01:06 PM

Just a quick note to let you all know that my beautiful baby boy was born on Tuesday 6 Feb (the day before he was going to be induced). He is called Wilfred Matthew. We're all home and doing well - more later.

mim1

08-02-2007, 02:30 PM

welcome flicka!

welcome tbear & wilfred! yeah!

The infacol is really helping. I was up with him from 1am til 3am, then he slept til 7:30am! Yikes! Hope he does that again!

The funny thing is that I went to bed at 11:50pm and left Joshua with my dh who was watching tv. I was pretty tired and thought I'd try and get a little bit of sleep before he woke up for a feed. I woke up at 1:20am and found the door open to the bedroom. I was confused as I was sure i'd shut it. dh came in a few minutes later and said that he'd come in an hour before and told me that Josh was awake and wanting milk. Apparently I said i'd be there soon ... I have NO recollection of the conversation at all!

Hels*Bels

08-02-2007, 03:21 PM

Welcome to our group Flicka :wave: I love your username, it's very catchy.

T-Bear - Congrats on the birth of Wilfred Matthew. So glad he came before your induction :smiliedance: . I'm looking forward to hearing the birth details and seeing first photos etc.

Leisa - Re the water, the health nurse told me that whilst BF bubs can have 10ml of boiled water per day but no more. I haven't had to give mine any yet, so I probably won't need to.

Last night we had problems getting Reece to sleep, so it was after midnight before he settled. He had a big feed before so I think he had wind or tummy pain as he kept screwing his face up and wriggling around. What are Infants Friend and Infacol? Are they to settle the stomach? and do they both do the same thing? Sorry for the ignorance but we haven't needed anything until now.
The good thing is that once asleep, he didn't wake until 6am for a feed and then at 10am. So we all slept in until then. I actually feel half human today lol.

I just went for my first long walk with Reece and it felt really good. I have also started a weightloss thread for anyone who wants to join, here is the link;
http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?p=1092557&posted=1#post1092557

I have been getting smiles too, they just make your heart melt don't they?? Reece has got dimples too :p

I went to see the OB yesterday about my stitches. He thinks everything will heal up ok, but I have to go back in 5 weeks for another check and he will do some repair work then if it's needed. So I feel happier about that.
I still have a small cyst-type thing in one of my boobs. I have had 2 different doctors look at it. Neither of them are too concerned so I have been told to keep an eye on it. It's not painful or anything but it's more prominent when the boob is full of milk and it almost disappears after a feed.
I am a bit worried about it but if it gets any bigger they will do an ultrasound and further investigations.
I keep thinking to myself that I have to stay fit and healthy, because if anything happens to me, who is going to look after my little boy??? :crying:

sugar n spice

08-02-2007, 03:26 PM

t bear - congratulations on your son wilfred.

Hels - infants friend and infacol are wind drops to help bring up wind. infants friend also helps relax the stomach or something like that to make bowl motions easier to pass. You can get both at the chemist and infacol you can get at the supermarket in the baby section.

mim1

08-02-2007, 04:11 PM

hels ... the infacol is just drops and it comes with a little dropper - I was amazed how easy it was to give to Josh - he quite likes it. You give it before a feed to help with wind. I'm sure your cyst is just that, a cyst. Don't worry. :hugs:

Tabby

08-02-2007, 05:10 PM

Congrats Tbear! way to go, you went on your own yay!

aww Mim , bless you hun, you must have needed that sleep! Glad the infacol seems to have worked.
:fingerscrossed:

Am going to grab infants friend saturday incase needed. The gripe water works but it tastes foul! and Katie lets me know it too lol. Have read it has a pleasant taste.

Hels: fingers crossed alls good at the next checkup for you.

Sugar: Glad to see Ash slept well.
Hope your little man gets better soon!

dragonflyblu: Bummer with the tummy bug, hope your feeling better today.

jennasmum: Glad the tounge snip went well and wasnt too bad.

Same here, nothing really new. another good night so must be the routine I have her in suits her. yay

oh feed time again lol
xx
Vicki

Flicka

08-02-2007, 05:43 PM

Thanks for the welcome messages.
Dragonflyblu - sorry to hear you have been sick. Hope you are trying to drink plenty of fluids for b/feeding and resting as much as possible.

Mim1 - My 2 year old is called Joshua! Great name for your little guy too!!

Tbear - Congrats on the birth of your son and what an unusual and lovely name.

Hels - Regarding your stitches - after my DS was born I was sore for a good 6-8 weeks. This time it hasn't been so bad but give yourself time to heal. Our bodies are adjusting to so much at the moment - hormone changes, b/feeding, sleepless nights etc. Hope you feel better soon.

Kelsey has been a bit unsettled with wind this afternoon. She is laying across my lap on her tummy and I have been patting her back. This seems to ease the pain. Poor thing!!!

Just got a nice burp up so i am off to give her a top-up feed.

Take care

sandj

08-02-2007, 08:32 PM

Hi girls, i was on the 'when are you due thread' hope im not too late to join this thread? just found it then!

havent had time to scratch myself lately with my little girl. she is almost 5wks old!

i have just skimped thru some of the posts and seen that some of you have colicky babies?? i do aswell. we had some terrible days and nights. I have been using Infacol for almost 1wk (stared her on it at 3wks 5days, dr said was fine) and i def. think it helps saying this though, i had a terrible day with her. she was grizzly from 9.30-3pm with about1hrs sleep! :banghead:

well hope u r all doing well?

:)

Cordelia

08-02-2007, 10:13 PM

Hi again sandj :) Of course you can join our exclusive thread! It'll be $50 tho... j/k

Caitlin has a cold :( DH brought it home from work. So she's been sniffling and can't breathe and finds it really hard to feed.. So I rang the community health nurse and she said to get some Fess which is stuff you shoot up their nose and makes their err (what's the polite way to say this...) boogers? go back down their throat to be swallowed. She's doing a bit better but I hope it goes away soon! It's the most awful thing to listen to at night - the poor little thing :(

TBear: Well done! Yay! Congratulations on Wilfred's birth :)

dragonflyblu

09-02-2007, 06:58 AM

cordelia hope bubs is less snotty soon. Clea has been a bit snotty this week as well, I forgot about fess, must try some.

Hels I have the same fear about getting sick. 2 days ago i couldnt even stand up without feeling like I was going to vomit. I had to do all BF laying down. I got scared that bubs would get dehydrated because I couldnt keep any fluids in. But luckily we still had lots of wet nappies. I am going to really up my efforts expressing some back up milk for freezer.

Well I have been up since 3.30am. Clea had a feed at 2.30 went back to sleep and then woke up at 3.30. She has been grizzly, not really crying but needs lots of attention or she does cry. finally about 30 minutes ago i wrapped her in her moby wrap (like the hug-a-bub) and she is sound asleep. Doesnt help me much because it is pretty hard to sleep with bubs strapped to me. Oh well at least she is happy now.

Charis

09-02-2007, 09:36 AM

Had silly internet connection issues.. but back on. Looking forward posting for Aries Moon, v v soon!!! :smiliedance: :smiliedance:

Acacia

09-02-2007, 10:31 AM

Hey everyone!
Thomas was 2 weeks old yesterday, so im a bit slow on the uptake in participating in the thread! Im taking advantage of him being asleep atm!

Ive had a rough couple of weeks but they can only get better! Its funny that i concerntrated so much on the labour only to realise that being a mother is the hardest thing i have ever had to do. In hospital Tom was so sleepy for 2 days and i was so excited thinking that i had got myself a good baby, but all that changed once the milk came in! I have flat nipples so i have to use a nipple shield, and he spent a few days gourging himself silly so he was really gassy and spewing all the time. That has settled down a bit now which is great, although 3 days ago i got really bad mastitis and nearly got sent back to hospital but the antibiotics are working well. They give Tom the runs so he is eating a lot again which is exhausting, but im losing the baby weight fast!!!!!

I am celebrating everyday that we get through without too much drama! Last night he slept for 5 hours straight which was very exciting! He has started to move his head around and look at everything more and he cooed at his dad which was very cute! His little face is changing already and his features are becoming more defined. He does these hilarious pouting faces and i crack up everytime! All these little achievemnets make the hard work wirth it because i think, " he is growing and advancing so i must be getting something right!"

We have our first big outing tomorrow and im so excited. Its a bit difficult to get out with the nipple shield needing sterilising and cloth nappies, but im determined to make it work!

I havent read through the thread yet, so im sorry for not doing personals. Congrats to everyone here tho.

Thanks for listening to my rant!

Hels*Bels

09-02-2007, 12:12 PM

Welcome back Sandj :wave:

Reece is 2 weeks old today... where has the time gone!!

Sorry I don't have time for personals today, bubs is due for a feed soon and I want to squeeze in a shower first if I can lol.

I changed his feeding pattern yesterday. So I fed less often but offered him both boobs each feed. He had so much that the little fella had milk running down his chin and out of his nose :laughing: He then slept for 4 hours during the day between feeds and woke only once during the night :smiliedance: I was worried that he wouldn't settle last night as he slept alot yesterday, but he was ok.

I have bought some Infants Friend drops but haven't needed to use them yet. He is too young to have Infacol yet.

Tonight we are going to put him in his own room to sleep as he talks and groans in his sleep alot and keeps DH awake most of the night.
I think it will be quite sad tonight but we will get used to it and it has to happen sometime.

My boobs feel a bit full and lumpy today, I think it is due to the change in feeding and they should settle down in a day or two :fingerscrossed:

Charis, I noticed you had been a bit quiet so welcome back also.
Anyone heard from Mouse too?

Have a good day everyone.

2s'nuff

09-02-2007, 12:22 PM

Hi-ya Girlies,

A big congrats to T Bear on the arrival of Wilfred. Only two more Jan bubs to arrive, hope both Clucky and Aries are doing well.

Welcome Flicka
Love the feet Hels:laughing: . You forget how normal they can look after being so puffy for so long.
Mim1...Hope bub has been sleeping better for you over he past couple of nights.
Sugar...Hope all your boys had a better night last night. Croup (sp) is a very scary thing, I panicked the first time DD1 had it.
Cordelia...Fess for Babies also has a sucker that sucks the boogies out of bubs nose. Great to hear Caitlyn continues to gain weight. Don't worry about comparing Caitlyn to other bubs in your playgroup. All babies develop at different rates. DD1 is still the smallest amongst her daycare friends, though shes also the most dominant.
Acacia...What do you do with your nipple shields between feeds? You could try taking a little container of Milton along when you go out and just put them in it between feeds. When DD1 was young sterilising was big, so I used to carry around a little tupperware container full of it for her dummy.

Routine...whats that?! TJ sort of has a routine, but at the moment I'm not too worried about it. I think routines can sometimes get in the way when you start to go out with bub. It's also hard when I'm on my own with the two monsters and feeding clashes with dinner/bath etc. As long as I get through the day, routine doesn't really matter.

Hope everyone has a good day.

Tabby

09-02-2007, 12:42 PM

Morning all

Hi again Sandj! Happy to see you here xx

Hi Acacia and welcome :wave: I know what you mean about that pouting face, its soo funny, katie still does them and never fails to amuse me

Hels: hope Reece settles nicely in his room.

Cordelia: Hope Caitlyns cold gets better soon hun.

Had a small dilemma at gp's for our 6 week check up
They had to ring medicare for her number as no card yet and they had no record!!! :banghead:
I sent it in the first week...So am going go the office and lodge direct as I have to go in there as I now have a bill for katies part of the checkup
Also how long does it take to hear from births registration, anyone know?

Been a long morning ( but a good night again yay ) been out since 730am and Katie was a treasure the whole time, a few little grizzles in the car but nothing major. Think its mummy nap time..
hope everyones well

Vicki

Jenko

09-02-2007, 01:01 PM

Congrats T Bear on baby Wilfred! :smiliedance:

Cordelia - I hope Caitlyns cold is on the mend

Acacia - I know what you mean about concentrating on the labour. I was like that with my DD. I had read sooo much on pregnancy and labour, then i had this mighty unsettled baby and didn't have a clue what to do with her. Lucky K has been a much more settled baby than his sis...so far :fingerscrossed:

Mouse - I'm in a bit of a routine, but i know what you mean about dinner time. I just do what it takes to get thru, it can be a bit of a stressful time in this house. DD has her cranky pants on, K just wants booby and i'm pretty tired by that time of the day. Must start teaching DH how to cook :laughing:

Hels - Sounds like Reece is settling in well, waking once a night is great.

Dragonflyblu - I hope Clea is a bit more settled for you today so you can catch some :sleeping:

Ooooh he's stirring, time for another feed. My bb's are killing me they are sooo full....been asleep for 4 hours the lil angel.

Flicka

09-02-2007, 03:27 PM

Afternoon ladies. A couple of you have mentioned your little ones having slight colds at the moment. Kelsey also has had a cold for a few days. I spoke to the midwife about it at my last clinic day and she mentioned it was very common for babies from about 3-8 weeks old to come down with a cold. Don't know if it is true but she said that apparently the protective qualities and antibodies from colostrum in the early days has sort of 'run out' and our milk doesn't "mature" until about 8 weeks - hence the gap where baby may be susceptible to colds etc. After having a think about it, I then checked my DS's baby book and he had a little cold at around the same age too.

Hope everyone is doing well.

Owen&Noah's_mum

09-02-2007, 03:45 PM

my little man has the sniffles at the moment too. he wakes up frustrated with a stuffy nose.
i haven't been here for a while and its great hearing how others are doing.

oh hes awake...finally. my boobs can't hold on any more! :D

Charis

09-02-2007, 05:57 PM

Hey gorgeous girls!! :wave:
Golly, I am so much happier today, I can distantly remember what I was like yesterday!! :yes: The day before yest.. Hunter had hardly slept well all day. He then took from 6pm-12midnight to settle and I even got so sad I was crying. No good!! Poor little sweetie, he was finally so exhausted and slept. Next day I had some extreme linear mind set of MUSTs, must do this, must call all these people...It seems all mad in retrospect. (so much so that I edited this post!)

I had the sense to txt almost-DP and he immediately responded with virtual hugs and came over with dinner/shopping. :) The relief was palpable!!!!!!!!!!!! The world was all alright and the relief so physically felt!

Beautiful H was then fed and swaddled almost immediately, so the 'naughty' little arms couldn't start upsetting him. He was QUIET and still nursed by his Dad for hours. But so so so much better than the poor darling screaming himself to over over-tired. He slept 7 hours and has had nice sleeps today. And his Mum is human again.

Like other depression I felt completely normal while it was happening, but was SO BUSY I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE but what I am doing, then I must do this, then that etc etc.

Sorry for long 'me, me' post, but if you find yourself so fixated!! Do something for yourselves :hugs: Take a break, have a shower (yes even when they are crying!) realise there is another day tomorrow! HUGS all!! Happy, relaxed me now.xx H still sleeping too.

Charis

09-02-2007, 06:18 PM

Oh.. post hog here :wave:
Hels - excellent about the music!! For darling R!! Also about the feeling that 'what if anything happens to us' thought!! YES!
Cordelia your routine sounds great!! Very nice and stable! I agree about work being so much less meaningful. Its so strange as pre-bub you wonder how others feel like this!?:) Gorgeous re the smiles!! Lucky thing!
Acacia, sorry for your engorgement, ouchy ouchy ouch! I like that bit about celebrating every day, as we all are..that 'take each day as it comes' feeling. How's bubs Dad going?
JennasMum awesome about 4hr sleeps, they look so so beautiful sleeping too!
Freddie, your Hamish photos are so special! Hope the MW gives some wisdom today!!Impart any here :-)
Sugar, hope you're going well! Our nights are similar to yours with Ashton. Feed 8-9, held to 11/12, sleeps till 7. The difference is sometimes, most times, except last night H crys and crys as I try to put him to sleep from 7-12pm. (all changed now though!)
Sad to hear about all the sniffles, hope all the Fess (up) works wonders.
Flicka and Sandj welcome and welcome again!!

Still nothing from Aries Moon.. I think I'm still her sms buddy, after losing my internet.. Such happy wishes going to her now. WoW to giving birth!!!!

I reckon the only awesome thing I've worked out recently is to have your food ready to go, so you can eat and feed at the same time!

Oh and after an arms down trial..he is certainly an arms up boy!! HUGS all, thanks for listening. Happiness to all. Such a joy our bubs are, so precious and that is the important thing.:angel:

Luvmytum

09-02-2007, 06:46 PM

Hi Girls

Just a quick note to say hi & I'm here - finally!
Wow what a couple of weeks.

Our beautiful princess Isabella was born on Wed 31st January so just made it! The last 10 days have been a bit of a blur as you would all expect. The pic in my avatar was taken 2 days ago - so cute I could just eat her!!

We were in hospital for 7 days as they discovered she had jaundice the day before we were to check out. She had to go into special care under the heat lamps & then 2 days on a special Billy Reuben bed in our room which is just like the cot they put them in except that instead of a matress, it's a plastic base which has UV rays underneath & she sleeps in like a sleeping bag with a transparent back so she can be exposed to UV. Went through all the ups & downs of settling, feeding, BF pain, millions of visitors,extreme tiredness, "have to do" depression with all the responsiblity & no sleep, tears & so on but the whole experience was amazing. We had to take her back for a blood test to test her Billy Reuben levels 2 days later & they had risen a bit but the pediatrician said that he was not too concerned & to monitor her colour at home. We may take her back in a couple of days to test again. Main reason she is more of a concern is that I'm O negative & she's A positive blood type & not only are we incompatible but she aparently got some of the Anti D in her blood which makes her Coombs Positive which means she is apparently more likely to have recurring jaundice. Anyway, so far so good.

A bit of labour/birth details - must feel like ages ago for all you girls! I ended up having my waters break naturally at 4pm on the side of the road getting out of the car (luckily with my hubby) not far from home so went home had a shower called the hospital & went in. Contractions started about 6pm & got progressively stronger. Ob came in at about 730pm & did an internal & said I was about 3-4 cm dialated & that he thought I would have the bub by early morning (ie 1 - 2am). Contractions were about 3 mins apart from the beginning & stayed like that for hours speeding up slowly.

Watched the first epidsode of 24 :thumbsup: whilst having contractions as we had a tv in the delivery suite & then all sorts of funny shows through the night as we had TV1 as well! The second half of 24 was a bit of a blur as swearing, hand squeezing & heavy breathing was happening by then (and gas!) Didn't like the gas....At about 1030pm the midwife said that the anethetist was coming in for someone else so now would be the time for an epidural or otherwise would have to wait a couple more hours which could be too long. Um'd & ah'd for a bit as I wasn't sure how intense contractions were & how much worse they were going to get & when etc The whole "guilt" with not experiencing full contractions. Luckily agreed as the next hour & half was progressively intense & I got the epidural at midnight. Must say it sucked getting the epi put in having intense contractions every minute & being told not to move. Long night as the epi completely numbed me. By 330am she said I was close to being fully dialated & that she would turn the epi right down. Ob was checking in by phone every hour surprised I wasn't ready as he thought I was going to give birth way before this. The epi wouldn't wear off & my legs were still completely numb at 630am & ob ended up coming in at about 645am & said that I would just have to push as bub had been sitting there ready for so long & that he would use a bit of vacuum to make it quick. He was not happy with the anethetist to say the least as it should've worn off hours before.

So after 6 hours of lying there not moving, legs feeling like they belong to someone else, half asleep & zonked, I had to wake up & get things moving. I started to freak out at the thought of pushing & had a little cry but then to my suprise, started pushing & could not feel a thing. With 3 contractions in under 10 mins & about 8-9 pushes, little Isabella was born. Very surreal after a long night to suddenly have a perfect looking baby girl to our surprise! We were both crying (hubby in particular) as both so happy. Rest of the day was a blur as exhaustion set in so won't go into details.

She was 7 pound, 3.18kg & 50.5cm long with a perfect shaped head & didn't look squashed. So cute!!

Have found it tricky to get her settled & the time just flies as you're 100% dedicated. My left nipple has been excrutiating at times but persevering as don't want to stuff up my milk.
Can't seem to find time to do anything yet - hubby is amazing though & releives me alot & generally is in charge of settling her, changing nappies as much as possible & bathing.

Looking forward to getting lots of tips from you all & will hopefully find the time to go back & read the whole thread. Haven't got any where near the time I had before!!!

Hope you're all doing well.

Will be back soon!

Sharyn

Luvmytum

09-02-2007, 06:47 PM

mim1

09-02-2007, 08:11 PM

welcome sharyn! welcome to the world isabella! glad you can both join us.

joshua is sleeping better at night in theory, particularly after 3am. It works well as long I can can go back to bed after his feed at 6 - 8am. Mum & I went to the shops today at 12:30pm, an hour after he'd finished feeding. He barely stirred and did not open his eyes the whole time! Yes, I mean, being picked up, put in the car, out of the car, in the pram ... and in reverse! If only he'd sleep that soundly when I want him to at night! He slept well when we got home too and didn't wake up til 3:30pm, which was 5 hours after he'd started his last feed. I had heaps of milk and he was hungry, so he had way too much to drink and then chucked and chucked. Poor baby. It was probably just cause he had too much, so I woke him at 7:30pm (which was a struggle! - he was awake til 6pm) for his next feed. He only had a small feed and now he's sound asleep again. I daresay he'll wake up by 11pm and want to stay awake til 3am again!

LadyLou

09-02-2007, 08:17 PM

Congratulations LuvMyTum on little Isabella!!!

What a lovely birth story!!

Hope all is going well... :wave:

~J'dore~

09-02-2007, 08:21 PM

Congratulations Luvmytum well done:yelclap:

She looks perfect:yes:

Flicka

10-02-2007, 07:49 AM

Congrtulations Luvmytum!!! Your little princess Isabella is gorgeous.

Hels*Bels

10-02-2007, 11:51 AM

Congrats Luvmytum and welcome to the birth group.

Things went well last night with Reece in his own room. He woke twice for feeds and was a bit unsettled, but it seemed like wind again. He only did one pooey nappy yesterday so I gave him some Infants Friend which seemed to settle him. He fed a bit more often aswell, but we still got a fairly good night's sleep. It might take him a couple of days to adjust.

I have got the "must do" thing happening aswell. We have got my parents arriving next weekend and the house needs a good clean as I haven't done much since having bubs. I have also got bookwork to do and a mountain of forms to fill out from Centrelink (again). It's really hard to find the time to do anything so I know I will feel stressed this week, trying to get it all done. We have had no offer of help from anyone in DH's family.

Today I have got the start of one of my nasty headaches, it's already around the eye socket and down the back of my neck :thumbsdown: I have taken panadeine but I don't know what else I can take whilst BF.

We are going to MIL's for dinner, so I hope I can last the distance.

tired*mummy

10-02-2007, 12:27 PM

HI Everyone
LuvMyTum - Congratulations on the birth of Isabella!

Hels - Hope you are feeling better soon and the headache doesnt get too bad. :fingerscrossed: it goes away. I've been getting headaches too but i think it is because i've been really tired lately.
:thumbsdown: about not having any help from DH family. Same here lol. My family live over the south/east side of melb and they offer to help out all the time even though they are just over an hour away but all of DH family are within 2-8km away and we very rarely see or here from them. Hopefully you can get everything doen and not get too tired or stressed.

Sierra has been very good. She is quite settled most of the time except for the 'occasional' tummy pain. After my grandpa's funeral on Thursday she was a little unsettled but think it was because of over stimulation and over tiredness not wind pain. She still sleeping 4-5hr at night. Last night was the first time i've been up 3 times with her. Once at midnight, then at 3:30am and then 8 this morning. Cant complain really though but i would have liked more sleep lol.
Well she's just woken up again so hope everyone is having a great weekend.
:wave:

sugar n spice

10-02-2007, 12:38 PM

hi all

Hels - sorry your inlaws haven't offered to help. i hope your headache goes away soon.

Ashton is sleeping well in his own room and we put the baby animal curtains up the other week. not much planned for today just some food shopping to do.

i have a busy week this week. monay im meeting a bubhubber for the first time, tuesday ashton has needles and in the arvo ethan has an appt with a nurse. wednesday i have a cocktail night to go to, thursday need to get my bridesmaid dress fitted, saturday night i have my sisters hens night. so im in for a busy wk.

dragonflyblu

11-02-2007, 07:02 AM

Sounds like all bubs are going well, welcome to the world little Isabella

well I have finally accepted that bubs wil only sleep until 4am and then she is a bit grumpy. She doesnt cry, but she is uncomfortable for a bit, does a big poo and burps and then wakes up. I tried having her awake in bed with me this morning but she doesnt like to be alone while i sleep! oh well.

Charis

11-02-2007, 09:20 AM

Aries Moon and DF are proud to annouce the arrival of
'Xavier Robert Clemens finally born 10 Feb 10.55pm 9lb 10oz!! Everyone going well so far :-) more details later. Take care K'

:smiliedance: :smiliedance: Congratulations AriesMoon, a (big) beautiful baby boy, love his name!!! HAPPY HOSPITAL TIME + HOMECOMING. :yelclap: :yelclap:

Isn't it such a miracle, every time.. a baby is born!!! YAH!!

Congratulations Luvmytum on beautiful Isabella xx

mim1

11-02-2007, 02:56 PM

Congrats AriesMoon on the birth of Xavier!

We've had an interesting weekend. Friday night Joshua wanted food from 11pm til 5am! I finally got to sleep at 6am, only to be woken by him at 9am for more food! It was not a good night. In retrospect it was mostly cause he'd had a quiet day on Friday and had slept too much and drank too infrequently. So, yesterday I woke him up every 3 - 3 1/2 hours for a feed and kept him awake to play. It worked and he fed at 7:30pm, I slept from 10 - 12, then he fed from 12 - 1, slept for an hour, then from 2 - 3, then slept til 6:30am. I even got another hour of sleep from 8 - 9 before getting up to go to church.

Unfortunately he has mostly been awake from 9:30am til 3:30pm, so now he's completely exhausted ... too tired to feed properly! I'm hoping he'll wake up hungry and alert when he is next due for a feed.

I was expecting lots of visitors today, but no-one has rung asking to come. I'm disappointed, cause I was mentally ready for the onslaught and looking forward to seeing my extended family. Oh well, maybe they'll ring later in the day. I've got a big extended family and cause of Josh's rough start none of them have visited yet.

Hels*Bels

11-02-2007, 04:28 PM

Mim1 - I know what you mean about the feeding, we had the same thing happen with Reece. So now I make sure he feeds well during the day and doesn't sleep too much. That way we get a better night's sleep. It's all trial and error though, isn't it?

:smiliedance: Congrats to Aries_Moon and DF on the birth of Xavier Robert Clemens, I love the name too!!
9lbs 10oz, wow I wonder if she had a VB? That's a big baby, Reece is probably still only 7lbs lol.

I made it to MIL's for dinner last night, bubs was passed around all the family but he doesn't seem to mind being handled alot which is good. I managed to keep the headache at bay but felt pretty $hit all day though lol. Hopefully I won't get another one for a while. We had a good night's sleep, Reece slept in 4 hour lots so we all got up at 12pm today, but what the hell :p
I am getting used to still wearing my nightie at 3pm and I am past caring now :laughing:

Hope everyone is having a good weekend :)

Acacia

11-02-2007, 05:46 PM

Oh Mim im really feeling for you. I hope bubs sleeps more soon. Are you getting plenty of help and sleeping while bubs sleeps?

Hels, i am getting used to being very smelly! I wake up and might have time fore a shower, but usually i have to chuck something on which is quickly saturated in breast milk!!!!! Then i spend the rest of the day getting puked on!

Tom's dad is going well. He is helping a lot and being really good to us both. He is working a lot so he is even more tired then me i think!

I use milton with my breast shield, although i havent found myself a tight lidded container to put it in yet!

Tom and i had our first major outing yesterday and he was really good. We went to a climate change protest on the beach. His first protest...im so proud! Obviously we could only be bystanders, and i just sat with him on an info stall and chatted to people, but in all it was a great day. I didnt realise prams dont really work on sand though....pretty stupid i know!

We were both exhausted after yesterday and he slept for 5 hours and missed one of his feeds which suprised me. He generally gets up about 4 times at night. In a 24 hour period he is starting to do a solid 5 hour sleep, but i just have to try and make sure that 5 hour sleep is at night! After that he is up every 2-3 hours and feeds for about an hour.

He has started lifting his head for longer, and he has been trying to throw him self over on his side, so he is definately getting stronger! My mastitis is clearing up and im starting to feel more capable as a mother, even starting to enjoy it!

I hope eveyone is well.

Welcome to the world little Isobelle and xavier. Congrats on the beautiful babies and welcome to the birth thread!