View Full Version : October 06 Mums and Bubs - january 07
Just starting a new thread for the October chatterboxes, since nobody else seems to have done it yet! LOL
Jet has finally decided to sleep this afternoon - fingers crossed his monster week is over.
We're going to take him for a swim when he wakes up, if he's not too cranky! He looks so cute in his little swimmers although they're slightly too big for him yet. Will an ordinary disposable be OK underneath?
GeorgiaAnne
12-01-2007, 16:55
Hi mums and bubs,
Sounds like most of us are having a bad day (week) :hugs: to all
We went to the pool yesterday as well, it was so nice to have a swim. I used disposables underneath as well, no worries.
Lucy - welcome back! Good luck with ttc -how exciting for you! We have been talking about it as well, maybe around March
Jen - Sorry your having a hyyard time with Sam :fingerscrossed: for a good night tonight for you. Ditto Lucy - is there anyone who can give you a break?
Bec- I have the same prob with the camera and Sophia, she just stops smiling and stares. Same with the video camera many minutes of staring footage!
Nitty - Nice work on the daytime sleep - it is so nice to have a break during the day.
Andrea - welcome back! Glad things are on the up for you
Sare - the reading is nice she just stares at the pictures and smiles! I always loved reading as a kid (mini - geek) so I hope Sophia is the same. " not peeing on the toilet and listening to what I ask" sounds like dh:laughing:
Di - sounds like you guys have a great routine - good for you!
Having trouble flicking back and forth so enough personals!
Going out for a family dinner tonight as my bro is moving to Melb, hopefully it will be nice (nice not to cook anyway!
Girls, time to organise our Sydney catch up meet
Good night to all
Georgia
Hey Girls,
Sorry to hear a few of you are having bub hassles :hugs: to all.
Hopefully it is just this s**t weather we all seem to be having. I know I get snooty and unsettled when the weather is weird.
Well we had a ripper night last night. Adam went to bed at 8pm. I never got there until after 11...I hate it when you start something and just have to finish it or you know you won't sleep. He was stirring but put himself back to sleep and never woke until 4.30am. Mind you he then went from boob to boob until 6.30 lol. He has only had about 2.5 hours sleep all day. The longest being 1/2 hour at once but he is happy.:laughing:
I hope everyone has a better night tonight.
Hi All,
I havent been around for ages and ages. Things have been soooo hectic, I havent had time to scratch myself.
Too many posts to go thru for personals, but I hope everyone is doing really well with their little bubs, and hope you all had a great Christmas.
We had some trouble with JR over Christmas and had to take her to the Royal Childrens. She decided not to eat for 24 hours - not one drop. She wanted it, but it was too painful for her. Turns out she had severe silent reflux (and was really unusual because it came on so quickly). Anyway she is now on Losec 3 times a day and it seems to have worked, she is more settled and better yet is eating more then ever.
She still isnt sleeping through the night, in fact we have had some shockers with her waking every few hours. However daytime is fine and she takes 2 to 3 naps of 2 hours. We are actually getting in a mothercraft nurse next Wed and Thur night to help us. So :fingerscrossed: .
Her development over the last few weeks has been amazing. The little bugger has started rolling over, and when on her tummy you can see how desperately she wants to crawl! And her smiles are just heart melting.
Enough from me, sorry about the long post. I hope to keep in touch more regularly.
Hi all,
Just lost my post :banghead: Oh well here I go again.
Wanted to offer my sympathy to you guys not getting much sleep. I was actually going to come on and have a whinge about Lara's poor night's sleep last night and after reading Jen's post I realised that I really have nothing to complain about when you other guys are having it so hard. I hope you all get a better night's sleep tonight.
Beck - I can't remember when Eloise started going to 2 naps a day, I think she did 3 first (2 of about 40 mins and one about 1.5hrs) and then moved to 2 sleeps sometime after 4 months.
Kimba - I know wht you mean about drs. I still second guess myself sometimes whether to take the girls or not if they are not well. With Eloise (Lara's only been to the drs once), I have sometimes taken her just for the reassurance that she's ok. But that being said, I have a dr who doesn't make me feel like a panicky mum when I do take her.
Sal - You summed Eloise up to a tee. I love her dearly, she just drives me crazy at times. It is hard to stay mad her when she smiles and bats her long eyelashes. She is going to be one of the kids at school, who drives her teacher mad, but won't get into too much trouble because she'll just smile and have a cheeky twinkle in her eyes that will make the teacher forget why s/he was cross with her. She was really good today, which was a plus.
Lucy - Lara goes bright red when she does a poo. She often goes crazy sucking on my boob or her dummy and grunts and groans. She passes the loudest farts too .. I swear dh would be proud to claim some of them as his own :laughing:
Georgia - Hoped you enjoyed your dinner out.
Kristin - I hope Isabella is settled again for you. How are you coping without your dp? Mine's got to go to Perth for a few days in a couple of weeks and I am a bit worried about how I'll go with the 2 of them.
Beck & Sal - I'm really ok with driving to catch up with you guys, so I'm not fussed where we meet up. Sal, you'll be busy with your wedding (not long now) so do you want to leave it until after that? Beck, is there somewhere near you that would be good to go with babies and a 2 year old?
Enough rambling... sending lots of baby sleep vibes to you all:wizard: ... I'm off to watch Cold Feet on DVD.
SalTheGal
12-01-2007, 20:15
Hi all,
My goodness- this organising a wedding stuff is so frantic- someone tell me why I left so much till the last minute?!?!?
Sare- I have been losing so many threads at the moment I have taken to writing my posts in word then copying them over!
Di- thanks for the info re feeding top ups for Nedd, it has been a big help, I have started following your lead!!
Does anyone else make the mistake of trying to put bub down to sleep when they are NOT tired? I misread Nedds signs twice today and had to get him back up again cause he was screaming- from not being tired enough to go to sleep!
Jen- hope you had a better day today-and thoroughly enjoyed your night out tonight. :yelclap: for your DH giving you a break!
Beck- checked your pics out today- Kayley is so cute:angel: Does she fall asleep anywhere really easily? Nedd will only ever sleep in a moving object (ie pram/car) or in his cot wrapped tight, he has never drifted off in his bouncer or on the floor, even struggles to fall asleep in my arms if he isn’t wrapped!
Kimba- :hugs: hope Jet gets back to his beautiful self soon, isn’t it heartwrenching when something is wrong.
Good on you for starting the new thread too!! It is funny I had been thinking it too, just didn’t want to take the initiative to do it! We might get some more oct mums join us now!
How is everyone coping with the heat? Apparently late next week we are to have late 30’s in vic- yucko!
DF has gone away for his bucks weekend this arvo, not back till sun, so I am a single mummy for the wkend! We did all the house work together before he left so I can take it easy over the weekend and relax (please be good for mummy Nedd!!)
Well off to bed to start the “relaxing” weekend!
Have a good one everyone :wave:
Ok who broke my baby? Own up!
Got home from an uneventful shopping errand at 5pm and she went cranky level 10 and didnt stop until just now. We had a shower, lots of feeds, lots of vomiting, some panadol, lots of vomiting...She has been extra pukey all day, and not quite herself, so maybe she isnt feeling well. Neither is her mummy after 3 and a half hours of this. I soooo hope she stays down long enough for a decent sleep. I wouldnt mind her bedtime being at 8.30, thats fine, i just dont like bedtime starting 3 hours before she actually goes to sleep!
Ok, thats my rant. Going to eat my microwave dinner and watch some mindless rubbish on tv. I might be nicer tomorrow, the candy fairy might stop by with some happy squares.
Just a quick message from suemp saying she misses chatting to you all :( she will be back soon. She is too busy visiting me.. :D
SalTheGal
12-01-2007, 21:11
Ok who broke my baby? Own up!
Got home from an uneventful shopping errand at 5pm and she went cranky level 10 and didnt stop until just now. We had a shower, lots of feeds, lots of vomiting, some panadol, lots of vomiting...She has been extra pukey all day, and not quite herself, so maybe she isnt feeling well. Neither is her mummy after 3 and a half hours of this. I soooo hope she stays down long enough for a decent sleep. I wouldnt mind her bedtime being at 8.30, thats fine, i just dont like bedtime starting 3 hours before she actually goes to sleep!
Ok, thats my rant. Going to eat my microwave dinner and watch some mindless rubbish on tv. I might be nicer tomorrow, the candy fairy might stop by with some happy squares.
Mjelly, I am so sorry for you and your cr@ppy (cr@ppy) night, but you crack me up with your posts:laughing: has anyone ever told you that you have a way with words- you should be a journo!!
~Kristin~
12-01-2007, 22:55
Thanks for the new thread Kimba - I was only suggesting it as I know that there have been people look at the previous thread, not knowing it was for Oct 06 bubs.
Welll I'm just here to share my horrible evening with you all.
DP got home from NZ today, but proceeded to sleep most of the day after having had a big week. Fair enough, but then he hurried me along this arvo so we could go to some friends send off to Far Nth Qld. Grrrrrrrrrrr! :banghead:
Well when we got there around 7pm I thought I'd feed Isabella, put her down, then go and flit around like the social butterfly I used to be and have a wonderful evening. :rolleyes:
WHATEVER!! Bella had other ideas. Between the heat and the noise from the party she didn't play the game, DP was off with the boys, and by 9pm I was on the verge of tears so chucked a narny and came home. Finally calmed Bella down enough to have one last top up, but when burping her she had a power spew:barf: , biggest one yet, so it was around 10.30pm that I handed her over to DP and came into the office for quiet tear, and now this vent.
Thanks - I'll be off to bed now. :yes:
SalTheGal
13-01-2007, 05:00
:hugs: Kristen............Hope you got a good nights sleep amd today is a better day.:wizard:
Sal - How did Nedd go last night? Hope you had a good rest.
Kristen - I too hope you had a good sleep last night. Adam doesn't play perfect baby when we are out either. They know something is different.
We had a power nap and a half last night. Put Adam to bed at 7.45 and he slept until 6am. Now he is asleep again!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bet he is awake ALL day lol.
My mate had her little boy last night. 10.02pm. 7lb 9 oz and she called him Mathew
Have a good day all:smiliedance:
Hi All
I am wondering who redirected the freeway through my bedroom as I have woken up like a truck has hit me this morning. Feel like I am getting the flu but one of my boobs is a bit sore so I hope it is not mastitis or anything like that.
Sal - no Kayley has been a pain to get to sleep during the day but she is getting there now! At the start she would only fall asleep in my arms and now I still need to get her at least 99% asleep before I put her down - usually it takes 2 goes but I just got her down before in one - yay. Once she is asleep she will sleep anywhere though - she is a light sleeper and noise wakes her up and unfortunately in her swing she usually hits the toys which wakes her up. I am mostly sleeping her in her bassinet now which is working.
Sare, Sal - probably is best to wait until after the wedding before we meet up. We have a few of those play centre things in the area but I have never been to one and am assuming it is too early to use them (although will probably occupy a 2 year old).
Kristen - I hope you got a good sleep last night (and others having trouble like Kimba and Jeffy). I thought it wqas going to be bad with Kayley not going down last night for ages. I had her in her bassinet from about 9.15 but took about an hour until she went to sleep then I had her up for a top up feed!! She was a wake again at 2.30 and I thought it was going to be a terrible night but then she slept until 20 to 6 (at which time she was wide awake). She did wake a couple of times for some massive farts but put herself back to sleep after them which was great - was expecting a really bad nappy but it was just all noise.
I hope everyone has a good weekend.
~Kristin~
13-01-2007, 08:18
I'm soooooooooo tired :crying: . My evening went from bad to worse. When I finally went to bed DP was snoring his head off so I tried sleeping in Bella's room but could still hear him :eek: . I kicked him out around 12ish and must have gone off to sleep only to be woken by DD around 3.30am and we've been awake ever since!
DP decided to join us around 7am :banghead: and has just managed to get her to sleep now.
What's going on? Did I brake her somewhere over the last day or so? Please tell me this is just a growth spurt, something, anything????
I hope and pray everyone else is having more luck with sleep! I'm going to try and get a hours sleep now before we have to go look at houses for sale.
Beck - go to the Dr ASAP, can't mess about with mastitis! Catch it early or your in for all sorts of grief.
Night night - I hope! :fingerscrossed:
ourfirstbubba
13-01-2007, 08:43
hi girls
sorry I cant do personals today...just wanted to say hope all bubs have a better day today and sleep well...
I had a really bad one last night....I suffer really badly with migraines, and the one night my poor hubby went out with his BIL I get a whopper...it came on at about 4pm (I think it was the heat) and I still have a bad headache this morning.....and last night was harder to settle Natalia because she was so hot....she slept from 9pm and we didnt hear a thing until 6.30am....I am so grateful that she sleeps, esp last night.......hubby got her up this morning and she fed and has been bacl down since 8.40am......
also, my poor Dad is in hospital, will most likely be having an operation on his back, so am feeling a little down.....
anyway, am having some breakfast and then going to sleep....thank God the weather is cooler here today.....
again, sorry for no personals, hope you are all well and that bubs are well too...
take care girls
Monring all
KIMBA- FINGERS CROSSED THAT JET SLEPT BETTER FOR YOU LAST NIGHT. DOTN THEY JUST LOOK SO ADORABLE IN THER SWIMMERS. I TOOK JAMES FOR A SWIM THE OTHER DAY IN OUR LITTLE POOL AND THE POOR BUGGER HATED IT. IT WAS 40 DEGREE DAY AND I PUT HIM IN WATER THAT WAS ABOUT 4 DEGREES, A BIT OF A SHOCK TO THE SYSTEM.
GEORGIA- WHAT SORT OF DISPOSABLE DO YOU USE UNDER BUBBIES SWIMMERS? I AM SO WORRIED ABOUT USING ONE AS I DONT WANT IT TO START PULLING APART WHILE WE ARE SWIMMING.
DI_MATT- I HOPE ADAM SLEPT LAST NIGHT AS WELL AS HE DID THE OTHER NIGHT. JAMES IS NEVER HAPPY WITH ONLY A LITTLE BIT OF SLEEP DURING THE DAY :(
ANITA- GLAD YOU ARE BACK. SORRY TO HEAR JACINTA WAS UNWELL OVER XMAS BUT GLAD TO HEAR ITS GETTING SORTED AND IT SOUNDS LIKE SHES REALLY THRIVING. WELL DONE.
SAL- YAY NOT LONG LONG. BET YOUR EXCITED. MY WEDDING HAS BEEN POSTPONED NOW DUE TO CAR REGO BEING DUE A WEEK BEFORE. HOW NICE IT MUST BE TO HAVE DP OUT OF THE HOUSE FOR THE WEEKEND. WISH MINE WOULD DISSAPEAR...LOL
M_JELLY- OH ABBEY SOUNDS LIKE SHE WAS BEING A BIG PAIN IN THE BUTT. HOPEFULLY SHE BEHAVES BETTER FOR MUMMY TODAY.
KRISTIN- SORRY YOU DIDNT HAVE A GREAT NIGHT LIKE YOU WANTED :( I HOPE YOU CAN GET SOME SLEEP TODAY.
BEC- :fingerscrossed: ITS NOT MASTITIS OR ANYTHING NASTY.
JAMES WAS A LITTLE BUGGER FOR 4 DAYS STRAIGHT THIS WEEK. NOT WANTING TO BE PUT DOWN, NOT SLEEPING FOR MORE THAN 1/2 HOUR AT A TIME DURING THE DAY BUT HE SEEMS TO BE A BETTER TODAY. HE DID THE SAME THING LAST MONTH, HE HAD 4-5 DAYS OF BEING A ****. MUST BE THAT TIME OF THE MONTH.
I HAVE BEEN LUCKY THOUGH BECAUSE SINCE XMAS NIGHT HE HAS SLEPT THREW WITH ONLY 2 NIGHTS WERE HE WOKE AT 330AM FOR A BOTTLE.
LAST NIGHT HE WENT DOWN AROUND 8PM AND THAN WOKE AT 7AM FOR A FEED. I DONT KNOW HOW LONG THAT WILL LAST BUT I HOPE IT IS FOREVER..LOL
OK WELL I BETTER GO BUT I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A BETTER NIGHT...
Good morning all. Well I can'r complain about Jordan's sleeping patterns, he is going well. My problem is is that for the psat 2 weeks I have had my DSD here to entertain him while I do things and now I am here on my lonesome and he is expecting me to entertain him!!! Nothing is getting done! I have 3 baskets of ironing and I have my girlfriends kids coming to stay from tomorrow for a few nights with school holidays and need to wash sheets and get their rooms ready!!! :eek: Time flies!!!
I have been told that there is a growth spurt around 12 weeks so think this may be why some bubs are not what they used to be. Jordan's sleeping patterns have definately changed over the past few weeks and the other thing is that he is much more knowing about what is going on around him.
So how did everybody sleep last night?
Sal, only 2 weeks until your wedding. Not long now! Hoew are you feeling?
Well girls I had better be off and start to get stuck into the rooms and make a mark before DH gets home from work and wonders what I have been doing all morning....
Hope you have a good day!
Lucy
Well Jet has been a little better since yesterday afternoon when I finally managed to get him to take a nap :smiliedance: When he woke I fed him and we took him to the pool for his first swim (thought he could do with some distraction) and he loved it! I expected grizzles or tears but he was absolutely calm and peaceful and was good then for a few hours. He even reached out and picked up a toy yesterday and waved it around which is a first (he usually just grabs at dangling toys)
Then last night I bathed him and went to feed him as part of his bedtime routine but he just started screaming for no apparent reason and then refused the breast again, but would take a small bottle (90ml). I knew it wouldn't be enough to see him through the night, and sure enough he woke at 11.30pm :banghead: but at least he went straight to breast with no problem (thank goodness I had heaps of milk too, as I hadn't breastfed him for about 6 hours by then).
He was also fine for his 4am and 6am feeds today but at 8.15 when he woke he wasn't interested in feeding (a little suck then pulled off) and then when he woke from his nap at 10.15 I thought he would be ravenous but he again wasn't really interested in the boob - on both sides he had a half-hearted suck then rolled away onto his back - which suspiciously is the position I bottle feed him in. Mind you he wasn't really interested in the bottle either and only took about 90ml.
After being a 2-hourly feeder pretty much since birth it's strange to have him not interested and not hungry - and it's totally stuffing up the feed-play-sleep routine LOL!
So of course now I'm worried he isn't feeding enough, especially since we had a couple of dry nappies yesterday. Although today he does seem content, and isn't grizzling, so it seems maybe he really isn't hungry?
How often do your bubs usually feed?
Maybe he's finally ready to drop one or two feeds?
GeorgiaAnne
13-01-2007, 11:47
Morning all,
Rian - I just Huggies, the get soaked obviously but don't come apart. Mammoth post love, I didn't even need my glasses to read that!
Kimba - happybirthday for 3 months to Jet - I hope he is being a good boy for mummy today. Sounds like you might be able to lose a feed. How often do you feed him a day? I still do 7 a day, sometimes 8 if it really hot, normally at 7am, 10, 1, 4,6,8 then 10.30 dream feed (no wonder I get nothing done!)
Lucy - leave the ironing, sit down and have a cup of tea. Put it in a cupboard where you can't see it!
Kristin - sounds like a growth spurt or just a plain old bad day
Beck - I would go the dr as well. I had mastitis and it was SUPER sore, I hate taking antibiotics but they worked really quickly 24hrs or so.
Mary - I hope you get to have a nap today. I had about 3 hours last night as well but it was my own silly fault, staying up 'til all hours of the evening waiting for dh to get home from work.
mjelly - you do have a way with words Hope Abbey is being a good girl!
Hope you all have a great day
Best
Georgia
SalTheGal
13-01-2007, 13:11
Ok well I think the downside of having DF away for the weekend is that I am going to do absolutely nothing!!!!!!
So far I have slept when Nedd is sleeping (it has been aweseme!!) just put him down for a nap and thought I better actually stay awake!
And am lurking way to much on bubhub, lucky I don't really have any house work to do anyway!
Kimba- maybe Jet is just ready to drop a feed- maybe Jet and Nedd are doing a switcharoo! I have been feeding Nedd three hourly and a 7hr stint over night- generally equalling 6fds a day, now I am trying to feed him 2 hourly and once overnight, so Jet might be taking up Nedds pattern!
ourfirstbubba- hope your migraine clears, I know how you are feeling poor thing :hugs:
Beck- hope the mastitis doesn't develop, look after yourself if it does. I had flu symptoms and sore boobs a few weeks ago, my MCHN reccommended massaging the sore spot whilst feeding and putting hot cloths on my boobs while feeding to clear any blockages- worked a treat.
Rian- hope james is back to being :angel: very soon.
:hugs: for you Kristen, try and get some rest today- promise?
GeorgiaAnne
13-01-2007, 13:12
Does anyone else baby make funny noises just before you feed them? As soon as I unclip my bra Sophia does this funny hoo hoo like an owl and laughs as soon as she sees my boob..it is quite funny. Also when she's sucking a dummy she make this funny high pitched sound like gully, gully, gully it is most peculiar!
Hi all,
I'm crashing ur thread! I'm from the Nov bubs thread and was just wanting to invite any Bris mums to our meet on Monday morning (15th) it will be in the Mt Gravatt area. If ur interested just PM me or any of the Bris mums in the Nov thread.
SalTheGal
13-01-2007, 13:39
Does anyone else baby make funny noises just before you feed them? As soon as I unclip my bra Sophia does this funny hoo hoo like an owl and laughs as soon as she sees my boob..it is quite funny. Also when she's sucking a dummy she make this funny high pitched sound like gully, gully, gully it is most peculiar!
Yes yes yes!!! One of the reasons why I would hate to give up BF is cause I love the look of delight on Nedds little face when he sees my boobies :party: makes me feel very wanted!!
I finally know what is wrong with my baby! He has silent reflux. Won't eat more than half a bottle before screaming in agony, wakes every 1.5 to 2 hours....etc. I've been told to put infant gaviscon in his bottles and have tilted his cot. Not much sleep again last night, so will (hopefully) be back on later for personals and to tell you all how well Sam is sleeping :fingerscrossed:
Jet is down for his third nap today :smiliedance: I feel like a champion LOL. It seems whatever was bothering him has passed and my happy baby is returning to me at last, although he's not 100% yet and he's still feeding erratically. I'm going to put it down to several things happening at once - hot weather, transition to his cot, reflux playing up (seems to do it every month or so), and his 12 week growth spurt.
Tomorrow I plan to spend a day just feeding him and relaxing and trying to get him back on track with his feed-play-sleep routine, since it's gone out the window this week!
Jeffy - poor Sam! Jet has silent reflux too and ordinarily it doesn't seem to bother him (esp. since I started thickening his feeds) but every now and then it seems to flare up badly for a few days, like earlier this week. My doc prescribed Losec but it's such a hassle to give to him, and it just doesn't feel right to put him on strong medication, if he isn't bothered and is thriving most of the time IYKWIM...so I just started using infant gaviscon in his topup bottles as well. It does seem to help a bit. I hope it does the trick for Sam and that you get a good sleep tonight!
sal - LOL at the look of delight at the boobs :laughing: Jet has always been like that too which is why it was so devastating this week to have him burst into tears and pull away when I put him to the boob! I think you might be right about dropping a feed, I'm going to see how he goes feeding 3 hourly.
mummyG - yep Jet makes funny noises all the time, he does the owly hooting thing too, even while he's on the boob. When he's going down for a nap and is a bit grizzly and I put in his dummy he does this 'mmyam mmyam mmyam' sound, it's really cute. Re: feeding, he usually does 8 feeds in 24 hours sometimes 9 if it's hot (smaller feeds more often) but the last 2 days he's only been getting about 5-6 'proper' feeds in with little halfhearted snacks as well.
lucy - forget the ironing and when DH gets home and asks what you've been doing say 'being a good mother to your son!'
rian - Hope that James is over whatever what bothering him this week and yay on the sleeping through! For swimming I'm like MummyG, I used a normal Huggies under his swim nappy yesterday. But the thing swelled up with so much water it was hilarious!
teresa - hope you're feeling better now migraines are the pits especially when it's hot like this! Hope your Dad is OK too :hugs:
Hey Again All
Kimba - I have found that if Adam is tired still (even after a nap he screams if I try to feed him. Sometimes if I hold my boob with me other hand and flatten it a little he will take it. If not I nurse him for a bit to see if his eyes roll. Because of the humidity here this week I have been lying on the bed to feed him. He seems to attach better and looks really funny when he turns his head back to look for the nipple:rolleyes:
Here here on the talking and smiling at the boob :laughing: makes B/F even more rewarding.
Just a quick gripe: DH's son is now living with us and I am already over it. Between them both telling me I should let Adam have extra bottles so they can feed him and their hush hush conversations that stop when I enter the room I think I might have a wobbly :mad:
Ah well that's life. Dear Adam is being a trooper and has been asleep for 4 1/2 hours lol. That'll teach em to upset his mummy
Have a good night all
GeorgiaAnne
13-01-2007, 18:28
Bravo Kimba on the naps, i'm glad Jet is a bit easier today.
Jen - I hope the gaviscon works well for Sam. It must be good to have a plan and make him feel better. It is awful when you can't work out what the problem is.
Di - I would get ratty if I were you too and conversations stops when you walk in. It is probably nothing but it is still :mad:
Have a great weekend everyone!
~Kristin~
13-01-2007, 18:59
Sorry for the last couple of downer posts I've made, just had a rough couple of days and it all got on top of me - but after a sleep this arvo the world is a much brighter place! :D
Jeffy - Aww poor little bubba, at least now you can fix the problem and everyone will be much happier!
Rian - I use normal Huggies under Isabella's swimmer too. They don't fall apart, just sweel up and make her tushie float :laughing: .
Ourfirstbubba - I suffer from migraines too, so I completely feel your pain - I hope everything settles down for you. I think Ii'm not drinking enough water to allow for BF and the extra heat lately, so I'm making an effort to drink more H2O to help ward off any migraines.
Kimba - :thumbsup: Nice one!
Di - Grrrrrr, my In Laws do that to me sometimes, make you want to slap someone!!!
Have a great night all!
Abbey certainly is happier today. We've been camped out in the bedroom with the a/c. The cr@p real estate still hasnt had it serviced to remove the mould even though I served them with a breach so I've taped a layer of chux cloth over the vent to catch most of the allergens and turned it on. If the motor burns out due to my action, i dont care. I followed the rules, the real estate didnt. I will be moving when this lease is up, the are extremely unprofessional and not worth the stress.
She also went to sleep by herself just now. I didnt think she would, but she just snuggled down into her sheets and went to sleep. Could all her sleep problems be cured by a lower temperature? If so, doctors should prescribe air conditioning and cover it on pbs!
I had lunch with a friend today whose mother is smitten with Abbey, even though she's only seen her once. Apparently Abbey has "a certain quality about her"...She is a nurse and sees lots of babies but prefers mine. Isnt it nice to hear something so complimentary, albeit strange. Anyway, after we had finished eating and pocketing napkins of lollies (Sizzler dessert bar - yum) we stopped in the chemist to weigh my delicate princess. 8kg!!!! She was only 6.5kg at her 2 month immunisations! Here I was worrying over my supply. Silly mummy
I've been getting breast refusal on my right side, but i think it has more to do with Abbey's tilty neck (it has regressed, chiro didnt go so well this week) than anything boob related. On my left side is a whole different story. Besides being a bigger boob than my right and making me look purdy, she thinks its a toy. Forgets to drink because she is too busy playing silly buggers and then gets grouchy because she's hungry and I took it away.
Thank you ladies for saying I have a lovely way with words. Its how I earned the literature degree sitting on my wall, telling the world how qualified i am to sing along with the wiggles. Seriously though, ive never made much of my skill as I lack the attention span and discipline to finish articles and stories. They just change direction halfway through and then look a dinosaur, wow, dinosaurs are cool and I wish I had one.
ourfirstbubba
13-01-2007, 20:21
hi girls
I feel so much better today- my migraine has gone and I went and saw my dear Dad and he is not in pain so I feel alot better- I really do think that worry brings my migraines on, and the heat too.
m-jelly you are a funny girl! your posts always make me giggle....
Kristin I think its always harder to settle Natalia down when we are out somewhere else..during the day its ok, she will sleep in her pram or on my Mums bed, but if we go out at night and try and get her to sleep, she knows its not her bed, and also, because we dont do the normal routine when we are out (like a bath, cuddle on the bed, feed in quiet etc) she just wont settle.....you poor thing....good on you for leaving ...I just read your other post.....so it was a bad night? Natalia has been a little more unsettled than usual...I think the heat really affects her sleep during the day......it sounds like you need some you time......a nice glass of red maybe?
Bec thats a gorgeous pic of Kayley....hope its not the flu or mastitis
Georgia- I did get to have a little rest today...the weather was also cooler so we all napped...ps, love the name Sophia, thats my god-daughters name....and yes, Natalia knows when she is about to be fed....when she sees the bottle she gets very excited, its so cute and then she drinks too fast at first and nearly chokes....poor bubba
Sal- good on you for resting when Nedd sleeps....hope you have had a lovely day, you and your boy...
Jen- poor Sam, at least now you know what to do...hope he starts to sleep better for you, you have been having a tough time
Kimba- go Jet!!!! you keep up the good sleeping gorgeous boy!!!! Thanks Kimba, I am feeling better......and my Dad is getting there...looks like they will be operating on him next week....
well Natalia is sound asleep....and I will be soon too.....just a question, do any of you girls use a sling? I have a bubbamoe one and I love it, but want to buy another one, I think its good to have two..any suggestions??? Also, when do you use the sling?
well, I am off to read my Madison magazine and then go to sleep.....hope you and all of our bubbas sleep well, sweet dreams
xo
Hi ladies! Glad we have a new thread... the new place is very nice :)
Way too much to catch up on and do personals... I would be here all day!
:hugs: To all the mum's who are having a tough time with screamy/non-sleeping babes.
:smiliedance: Yay to those whose bubs are getting better.
I took Olivia swimming the other day - she loved it. I use cloth nappies, and just used a pocket nappy without the absorbant inserts for a swim nappy. All swim nappies are for is to catch any number 2's... so it would have worked, but thankfully we didn't have that issue!
m_jelly - regarding the breast refusal on the one side, how about doing a different position - like football hold, so that her head is in a similar position to what it would be on the other side, iykwim?
Olivia makes those hoohoo haha noises when she see's me unclip my bra strap... she turns her head from side to side and gets all excited at my boob... I love it :) But, I don't love it when she screams at my nipple though, or decides to look in the other direction whilst having my nipple firmly clamped in her mouth! Ouchies.
I have to remember to subscribe to this thread - last time we got a new one, I forgot to subscribe and missed heaps of posts!
I will pop in tomorrow and do personals then. Hope you all have a lovely night!
Sam slept 7 hours in a row and then another 2 last night :smiliedance: From now on, I'm trusting my instincts. People kept telling me he was teething or it was the weather and I let them convince me I was imagining things. The gaviscon did the trick. Just a question for all of you with reflux babies; it is very expensive to use it every feed. Should I use an AR formula instead or just buy a thickener?
ourfirstbubba - I use a puch as Sam hated the side sling.
m_jelly - You can spray Glen 20 into the AC to get rid of any nasties in the meantime. We had to do it!
Isabella's mummy - I'll bet you feel like life is so much easier after catching up on some sleep!
mummyg - Thanks; I feel guilty for not figuring it out earlier!
di_matt - Maybe they will both settle down once the novelty has worn off?
kimbaleo - Apparently the hot weather makes reflux flare up. Maybe that is what it was?
Well; I'mm off for some weight training, then housework, then a run, then guests, then dinner out ! I feel tired just thinking about it....:p
SalTheGal
14-01-2007, 07:06
Morning all,
glad to hear everyones bubs are on the improve, we sound like a much happier bunch!!
Di- just had to send you a :hugs: , I would be having a stern word to DH about your SS, it's your house too, and you shouldn't have to put up with it!
Jeffy- I would definitely try the AR formula, you're right Gaviscon is so expensive! I had that whinge to my MCHN when Nedd was first put on it. I ended up only using for a week or so, and he seemed to just need it for that short time to get over it, now he still has the silent reflux but it doesn't seem to bother him too much.
All normal on this front. I had a lovely relaxing day yesterday (did literally stuff all!) Then Mum took Nedd and I out for dinner last night- and my precious little poppet decided to crack a wobbly big time when I had timed it so he should sleep through the whole meal. Why is it that they just know when a meal is served up? I ended up having to feed him to soothe him just when I should have d@mn (d@mn) well been feeding myself! :banghead: Not to mention the fact I hate feeding him in restaurants (not very good at co-ordinating myself to feed in public without flashing my boobs everywhere!!)......and hate interrupting other peoples meals in restaurants with a screamy bub.
But that said we got through it ok, and it was really nice to spend some quality mother/daughter time with mum (considering we used to not be able to spend longer than 15mins together without throttling each other! :detective: I think I must be growing up!)
Then I came home and snuggled in bed and watched "the lake house" anyone else seen it? It was a good movie- but the whole concept (two people living two years apart corresponding by letters) was really hard to get my head around, I am such an analytical person I have to break everything down instead of just accepting it for what it is!!
Anyway, hope everyone has a happy day with bubs and families:wave:
Good morning all,
Jen, so glad to hear they have finally found out what was wrong with Sam. He is will be a different bub now and you won't know yourself - sleep will come!!!
Even though Jordan is bottle fed when he sees the bottle he does the sam thing. His eyes go wide open his mouth opens as if to say I know what is coming, but if oyu don't put it in within 30 seconds of him seeing it he will scream until he has it. So now we have to hide the bottle before he gets it!!
Sal, I have no idea how they know when you do things, like sit down, start to eat your dinner, just get in the shower or on the toilet! It is frustrating though. I think when Jordan is about 18 I will do that to him, yell out for him to come and see me just when he has done something!!
M-jelly, surely you could break your lease with them if they have not got the house in working order, or you could stop paying your rent. Send them a letter stating that since you have not been receiving the advertised package and list all the times you have contacted them about the air con. If you hit them in their pocket (ie Real estate agents all work on commission so no money in for the office, means no money for them) they might act sooner. And at the moment it will take ages for an air con person to come out and fix it as it is peak time! Get nasty. You go girl!
Kimba, has Jet settled a bit with the cooler weather. How did he behave in front of your visitors yesterday?
Well wonderful October mummies, I had better be off. I am meeting the bridal party at the shops at 10am to go shoe shopping. Taking Jordan with me so should be fun!
Have a good day.
Lucy
Morning All
Had another great night last night Adam slept from 8 - 5 then went back until 7.30 and is dozing now. :fingerscrossed: this will be his routine now. It's been a week of great nights for us all.
Jen - Hope Sam continues on the improve now and turns into your beautiful happy/ sleepy bub again (even though they are beautiful when they are unhappy anyway lol)
Sal - Thanks for the support but I am sure :banghead: is less painful than telling DH his perfect son is not.....(perfect that is) At least I admit my other three are royal pains in the A**e at the best of times. But I still love em and they know that. Ah well one day at a time.... I'm sure Adam is wondering why mummy is feeding him in the bedroom again and not in the lounge :laughing:
Isabella's Mummy - I hope life regains some normality about it for you too now that you are a little more rested.
:hugs: to all and hope you have a good Sunday
Morning all
Tried something different last night and put Jet down for a nap at 6pm instead of keeping him up till bedtime as I'd usually do. I thought he'd sleep for 40min and that if he was a bit more rested he might feed better at bedtime then sleep better overnight. Silly me! he ended up sleeping till 8.40pm :laughing: and only woke because mummy kept stroking his head willing him to wake so she could feed him and go to bed herself LOL. Gave him a big feed with 120ml ABM topup with his Gaviscon and he was back asleep by 9.40. I deperately hoped that it might do the trick to get 6 or 7 hours sleep but he still woke at 2.30 after only 5 hours :banghead: and then woke for another feed at 5.10am then wanted to get up and play at 6.30! Lucky DH is home today so I said 'here you take him and let me sleep in a bit'.
He's good today though, not crying and had a little nap with me in bed at 7.30 and has gone back down for a nap now so fingers crossed he's really back to normal today.
lucy - he was good with the visitors yesterday he'd just had a big nap when they arrived (thank goodness). Jet's like that with his bottle he hears me shaking it to mix the formula and his eyes light up and he opens his mouth ready to go. It is uncanny how they know when you're in the middle of something isn't it!
sal - you poor thing with Nedd chucking a wobbly in the middle of dinner it makes you dread going out doesn't it. Try not to mind the other people, think of all the times you've listened to a crying baby yourself. One more time won't hurt them LOL. Had to LOL at you analysing The Lake House I was the same with that book The Time Traveller's Wife (have you read it?) Couldn't enjoy it because my brain kept trying to work out the logistics!
Jen - glad the Gaviscon helped Sammy and yay on the big sleep!! You're not meant to use the Gaviscon (or Mylanta for that matter) for more than 7 days in a row (unless your doc oks it), so what I do now is use it when Jet's reflux seems to be distressing him, then just use Karicare Thickener mixed with EBM or his normal formula the rest of the time (rather than buying a special AR formula which really only has thickener added anyway). At least with the Karicare you can adjust how thick you make it.
Regarding trusting your instincts that's why I haven't put Jet on the Losec (it just doesn't feel right) although I am now in an agony of guilt as to whether I am hurting him by choosing not to. I found this site helpful though - http://www.australiandoctor.com.au/news/37/0c01cf37.asp - it makes sense and this guy obviously knows more about it than my GP (who didn't even know that you weren't meant to crush Losec nor mix it with milk!)
Pam - Glad that olivia enjoyed her swim. isn't it cool how our bubs take to the water! I was going to use a pocket nappy too but it didn't look like it'd contain runny poo in the water LOL so I thought I'd use a sposie just to be safe. With a PUL cover over the top!
teresa - glad you're feeling better and glad that your Dad is doing OK too. I was determined to be a baby-wearer but so far I've tried 4 different slings/ pouches with Jet - he hated the Baba Sling and the BearHug, tolerated the Hugabub when I borrowed Pam's then hated it right after I'd bought my own, and has disliked his Baby Bjorn till now, but will now put up with it for a short time (but he's getting so heavy for me now!). He loves to be carried and held though so go figure :rolleyes:. I have this feeling that he just doesn't like being confined - although he likes being wrapped to sleep!
M-jelly - LOL at the dinosaur! Sounds like the AC did the trick for you! I agree with Pam have you tried putting Abbey to the boob in a different position on the right side? I have to do that with Jet when he gets fussy (it's always on that side too)
Kristin - don't worry about the vent posts (((hug))) that's what we're all here for! Everyone has bad weeks. Isn't it great that a little sleep can make everything seem so much better. Hope you have a better day today.
Georgia - thanks for the support - can you believe it's 3 months since we were stressing about being overdue and then meeting up in RPA with our bubs and comparing emergency c-section stories!
di - I'd have the sh1ts too I hate those psst psst converstations that stop when you walk in. I'd just say 'So you're obviously talking about me, why not just say it to my face?' and make them squirm. I'd also be having some strong words to DH it's not right to make you feel uncomfortable in your own home. I feed Jet lying on my side in bed in the mornings it's so cute watching him try to latch on - I also love how he dozes off on his side afterwards, he looks so precious. Awww.
OK I think that's the biggest post ever!!! I thought I might as well, while my little monster is sleeping (I'm also trying to keep DH off the computer LOL).
Hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend, I hope it's not too hot where you are today.
Hi all,
Nothing really exciting to post here...except that Eloise has been particularly well behaved for the last couple of days. She's so cute. I gave her a bowl of fruit after her dinner last night and she gobbled it all down and then said "Thank you mummy for my fruit", except she says cank you instead of thank you which makes it even cuter.
Lara has been going well too. She talks heaps now and will probably end up being a little chatterbox like her sister. Oh and she makes those cute noises too whenever she sees that she is going to be fed. I love it. She's loving her playgym at the moment - she has all these animals that dangle down that rattle and scrunch, but the thing that she loves the most is a set of wind chimes hanging from the arch that she can kick.
Glad to hear that most of the babies have settled and have been sleeping better for the last couple of days. I hope it continues for you.
Now just a few personals:
Pam - I love your photos!!! Olivia is such a cutie with a gorgeous smile.
Kimba - Sounds like Jet is on track again. I hope you get your 7-8 hrd sleep tonight.
Sal - I know what you mean about b/fing in public. This is my 2nd time at it and I still hate doing it if we are at a restaurant or somewhere public. I've found having a muslin wrap draped over my shoulder allows for some privacy, but I'd still prefer to feed Lara somewhere a little private. I hope you got to enjoy your meal too.
Lucy - How did the bridal shopping go? Was Jordan good for you?
Beck - Hope you are doing ok. Did you go to the drs to check if it was mastitis?
To all you other lovely ladies - hope you are all doing well. Enjoy what's left of the weekend.
Hi Ladies and beautiful babies
:hugs: to those that are having trouble with sleeping patterns. Jayden is also being difficult but I put it down to an early 12 week growth spurt as he is only 11 weeks old.
Jayden is being BF and started to go 2 hourly and even then appeared to be "wanting more", so even though he is only 11 weeks, we have given him a couple of teaspoons of the farex that is recommended for 4 month olds. Is anyone else using this and what age were your littles ones?
I am worried that we are introducing the farex too early but my gut tells me he needs more. BTW he gobbled it all down the two times we have given it to him :smiliedance: and was a much happier boy the day after.
OURFIRSTBUBBA - I have pm'd you re: the bubba more sling.
myprecious
14-01-2007, 20:20
Hi all October mummas!
Thanks to those who sent me a PM to help find this thread!
Whilst i try to catch up on all of you and your gorgeous bubs ill summarise where im at!
Rowan Joe born 06.10.06 3.41kg (7lb8oz) and a lanky 56cm long
He is a really cruisy little guy and we're very lucky to have had no real problems....touch wood
He is sleeping 9-5ish and has done so since 6 weeks. This is great however the catch is he favours one side and ive let a bit of a flathead happen. The nurse has told me if i keep him on the other side it'll be fine and its not too bad. Still I feel like I failed the poor little thing a bit and I could have prevented it happening at all.
Im looking forward to hearing your stories and hopefully meeting a couple of you Brissie mums! Im in Springwood but unfortunately cant make the meet tommorrow.
Take care
Megan
Kimba - great article about reflux treatments. Thanks for linking that!
Jen - I don't know about the formula, but it might be worth a trip back to the doctor if you find that the gaviscon needs to be used long term. Talk to your doctor about your concerns - cost, ect, and he may prescribe something else. Glad that it made a difference!
Sare - Glad that Elouise is being good for you! Olivia loves her playgym too - I put her down on her change table mat under the playgym for her nappy free time... she lays there screaching in delight :) grabbing and kicking her toys.
JuzP - Sorry, can't help you with the farex question. Olivia seemed to increase her feeds for a while there, but I figured she was just trying to increase my supply to meet her demand.. it has settled back down now. Many people that I have talked to have given bub farex from 3months. Trust your instincs I think. If it is worrying you I would talk to your doctor of child health nurse.
I put Olivia on her tummy today, turned around to fold some washing, turned back and she was on
her back! So, she must have rolled over, but I have yet to actually see it! Have to make sure DH doesn't leave her unattended at the change table - so many times I have busted him walking away and leaving her there. He says "it's just for a second, she can't even roll yet" :banghead:
Don't you just love seeing your bub develop? What are some new things that they are doing?
SalTheGal
14-01-2007, 20:44
Hey myprecious- glad you found us!!!
Love the name- Rowan is cute (name and bub- love your avatar)
I had a flat head problem with Nedd too, and one thing that really helped him was a visit to the chiropractor. He initially hated being on one side, but now we can put him either side no worries!
Hi to everyone else. Hope you all had a good weekend.
DF got home from his bucks weekend this arvo- but fat lot of good he is! Nice and hungover and just wanted to go to bed......Nuh ah, I made him stay up and look after Nedd while I went to the supermarket- he was not happy, but tough t!tties I say :laughing: , poor thing I had to have a bit of a giggle. But its not as if I got to sleep all day after my hens night!
Well going to try the dream feed for Nedd tongih cause his last feed was at 7- which is too early for last feed for my liking!
Sending lots of sleep vibes to all mums and bubs!:wave:
Hi all,
Welcome to the group myprecious. :wave:
I received a PM from Kristin today:
Hi Sare
Thanks for your message and support. I have tried PMing you a few times but for some weird reason it has not worked - I hope this one does!
Ryley is doing really well. He has put on a lot of weight and is now nearly 5kgs. He has put on a kilo in 2 and a half weeks! He is also developing really well - the maternal health nurse is very impressed and pleased with him.
He is going back to Monash tomorrow for another operation. Just a biopsy at this stage, with the possibility of the pull through operation (to fix his bowel) - but it all depends what they find in the biopsy. I am very hopeful (probably a little too hopeful, and am setting myself up for disappointment) that they will do the whole lot, so then he will only have to have one more op (to close the stoma - the bowel opening on the outside of his body). Anyway, we will know more tomorrow. (I am also very anxious about him having to go through another op - this is his 5th and I can't help being worried).
:fingerscrossed: that they get the to more that just the biopsy. It's great that he is doing well now with his weight gain.
Lara had another good night last night. I fed her at 10 and she slept through until 6.30 had a feed and is now asleep again. Eloise fell asleep easily last night too, so DH and I got to watch an episode of the latest series of 24 that I downloaded. It was awesome, I can't wait to see the rest of the series. I think 24 is the one TV show that I just HAVE to watch.
Have a great day everyone.
Guess who has self settled at night for the last 2 nights running? She even slept from 7.30-4.30 last night. She woke up and snuffled around 2am which is when i normally transfer her to my bed, but I must have fallen asleep, so she settled herself back to sleep in her cot. She may not have needed a drink at 4.30 either, but I needed to feed her. I couldnt even lie on my side, and i was raining all over her little face before she had a chance to latch on.
Re Flatheads - Abbey's chiro does some head reshaping work at each visit. No way I would be willing to do it myself, she may be playdough but im a wuss.
Sare - glad im not the only one who downloads tv shows before they are shown here. I think ive seen pretty much everything that will be shown here this year, what will i do when the series' stop in the US and im left with brand new reruns here? i might have to devote my time to something actually worthwhile like housework...
Sounds like Ryley is doing really well now. Soon mummy will be able to look back on all this as a bad dream. Big kudos to K for her ability to cope, I would have been a mess. I bawled just because my baby is tilty and that is a temporary piffle!
Di - dont worry too much about the pssty conversations. They prob have more to do with the kid being a gay/druggy/tool than anything else. Maybe use some negative reinforcement. Every time you catch them doing that, throw something at their heads!
OK, I have to go do some dishes now. Not that I actually cook, but ive run out bowls for my breakfastlunchdinner cereals.
Sam slept again for 6 hours straight and he has been asleep since 0830 :smiliedance: so I have had time to pick up the dog poo (yay). My DH is so lazy when it comes to housework and gardening. He does take Sam a lot so I can go out though, so I can't complain. The only thing bothering me now is that I have to have Sam in the pouch all the time so he is upright. I had another cry this morning because he was screamy again; turns out I bought variable flow teats by accident and didn't have it on the right flow. Phew! Thought the Gaviscon was failing me!
m_jelly - Thank the lord for self-settling! Sam went back to sleep this morning for another hour and I could not believe my luck.
Ooops - Screamy baby has awoken.....
GOOD LUCK RYLEY!
Hi All
Kayley had her second Rotateq vaccination this morning so I am exp3ecting a grumbly afternoon so I thought I would jump on quickly while she is having a snooze.
Saturday was a hard day - she would not sleep all afternoon - finally got her to sleep around 9pm - rollover feed at 10:30 which she didnt wake for and she slept to 3:30 (for a feed) then not up again until 8 - wwhich is good for her and let me get over the monster afternoon! Yesrday I thought she was going to do the same but went down for a sleep in the arvo and ended up sleeping for just over 3 hours - she has never done that in the day before! I could have got a lot done but I found myself clock watching expecting her to wake up!! I thought she wouldnt sleep last night but she did OK, down again at 9 then up at 2 and 7 then down again until 8.30ish.
As for me, I got in the shower on Sat morning and gave myself a good massage under the hot water and again whle feeding and my boob seems to have settled down and the flu symptoms gone - I think I just caught it :fingerscrossed: . My problem is because I have a breast lump it is hard to tell if it is that or a blocked duct which is a bit of a bugger!
I have a question for you all - I know we are supposed to follow the feed play sleep and I do that most of the time but sometimes Kayley goes to sleep straight after a feed - I hate to wake her up so I let her - shoudl I be waking her up??? This is what happened for her big sleep yesterday.
As for self settling - Kayley does at night but refuses to during the day - she is starting to get heavy putting her to sleep now so I am hoping she will grow out of it!! Actually she had a bit of a whinge then but seems to have quietened herself - but we will see.
Sare & M-Jelly - where do you download the TV shows from??? I have a few I would like to get.
As for carriers, I use a Baby Bjorn and it is great. I turned her around to face forwards for the first time on the weekend and she seemed a lothappier (was starting to get a bit grumpy facing me) - I went into the bathroom to let her watch herself (she is soo cute and grins at herself after the first time when she grinned then started bawling) and she started dancing on the benchtop which her feet were fust touching - might be nearly time for the jolly jumper - she loved it!!
Oh well the whinging has started again but she has had 45 mins sleep so I better go!
SalTheGal
15-01-2007, 11:12
Morning all.
Warm and fuzzy moment- I was sitting feeding this morning thinking bout bubhub and how much I love my october mummies!!! I honestly don't know where I would be without you all to bounce things off. One of the most common thoughts that runs through my mind when making decisions for Nedd is "what would the oct girls do"
So thanks ladies- for being such a fantastic support network!!:hugs: :yelclap: :hugs:
OK, *takes off soppy warm and fuzzy hat* well I think (gut instinct only) that operation "chubba bubba" is going well, either i have a very active imagination or Nedd is looking fuller round the face and has an extra roll or two on his cute little legs already. I am going to go in this arvo to weigh him to check on our progress.
Unfortunutely I am not so confident bout operation "big boobs" I still don't feel like my supply is getting any better, and I have upped Nedds feeds to two hourly during the day and offering a rollover feed at night. I am seriously thinking bout weaning him and just going with the bottle- but know I will regret it, don't you hate it when your mind is being pulled in two directions.
Great to hear that things are going well with Riley- q's: are you contacting Kristen via PM here on bubhub? If so what is her exact username? I would love to drop her a line.
Jeffy- glad to hear Sam is on the improve, isn't it great when you get an answer?!?
M-Jelly that is great work on the selfsettling too- such a great feeling hey? Nedd is so good at self settling these days that he actually fights sleep more if being held :rolleyes:
OOOHHHH One of my bridesmaids just dropped by, she got engaged a little while ago and is getting married in june and just asked me to be a bridesmaid for her! YAY YAY I am very excited!
Afternoon ladies. Sorry to be a downer but looks like I'm the odd one out with happy/ sleeping babies. Jet was OK all afternoon yesterday, but suddenly refused the breast again at his bedtime feed, got so distressed that he screamed himself to sleep at 8.30 in my arms last night (couldn't even feed him to sleep). Then the little bugger woke at 12, 2.30, 4.40 and 5.15 and wouldn't re-settle without a feed :banghead:. I am soooooooo bl00dy tired, and so stressed, I'm not coping well at all. Lots of tears.
We're about to take him to the doctor to find out if there's something wrong with him, maybe a UTI? because he's still a bit irritable & hard to put down, but even worse is refusing the breast again today :gloomy:. He hasn't fed from me since 7.00am today in bed, just cries even when I put him on his side to get ready to feed, let alone try to put him to the boob (really screams then).
Even trying to give him a bottle of ABM instead of a breastfeed is a struggle, he'll barely take 100ml and even that's a battle - I have to keep giving the bottle back to him over the space of 40min or so, to get him to finish it. Seems like he's just not hungry? which wouldn't bother me so much, but he's had a couple of dry nappies today and a 'hard' (like plasticine) poo for the first time ever, so it's freaking me out. I'm sure he isn't getting enough to drink and should be hungry, but he doesn't seem to want it.
I tried calling the ABA helpline and all they suggest is to take him to bed and try to feed him more often - but he won't settle down in bed today (just gets cranky and grizzles) and I can't get him to feed at all :no:, let alone more often!
I don't understand why he wanted to feed all night then refuses to feed in the day. I wish it was the other way round. I'm also worried that this will dry up my milk supply completely.
On the plus side I managed to express 100ml when he refused me at midday, so I clearly have milk (for now) and at least I have a bottle of EBM to give him, for the first time ever. Silver linings hey.
Sorry to whinge so much guys, but the breast refusal is really distressing me, and DH doesn't seem to care at all, he just rolled his eyes at me when I was crying.
Oh Kimba - I am so sorry. I was just thinking how good Kayley is being today after playing long enough for me to have lunch and then going off to bed without a fuss and I jump on and read your story.
I think our partners often think we are overreacting but they do say thats why men die earlier as they never go to the doctors themselves - silly buggers.
I think you should go to the doctors and see if they can help. And if you can, get someone over there to help you. If you get stressed Jet will get even more stressed so it would be great to have someone over to help out - even if it is just someone to vent to. I hope to here things are getting better soon.
Well the GP says there's nothing wrong with Jet and that he thinks it's just pain from abdominal cramping (he even called it 'colic' - I thought doctors didn't believe in colic LOL). He also disagreed with the other doc's prescription of Losec for the silent reflux and said that there's no point giving acid reducing medication (not even Mylanta or Gaviscon) to little babies because they don't produce stomach acid! so what causes their silent reflux pain then...? :confused:
I'm so tired of getting conflicting information from everyone I speak to - who do you trust? I need to find myself a good paed.
Anyway doc said to give Jet Donnalix drops which are an antispasmodic and should help with the abdominal pain - but Babylove says that they contain drugs which aggravate reflux and make babies agitated - so why would I do that and make things worse! Talked to the chemist who said that Brauer's Colic Relief and Stomach Calm are just as effective and don't have any side effects, and I've already been trying those, so I'll just keep using them and see how we go...:fingerscrossed:
Don't think any of this will help with the breast refusal and not feeding enough, but at least I know he's not sick. I just hope he doesn't want to feed 2 hourly again tonight!!! wish me luck...
:gloomy: So much for my first post today! Well; I had such a horrible day with Sam that I cried for about 2 hours and had to call DH home. No point repeating what happened as it is the same story as Kimba! Bub won't eat, won't settle...I had him in the pouch all day but couldn't even sit down. As soon as DH came home, Sam went to sleep FOR 2.5 HOURS :banghead: I went to sleep and left everything to DH and he is now going down to rent me a DVD for tonight.
Kimba - :hugs: I read that from 3 months, babies do produce acid and that's why if they had reflux before this time, it starts to hurt around now. My doctor is also an idiot; the pharmacist was much more help.
Well, :fingerscrossed: I get another good night sleep.
Hi guys
Kimba - :hugs: I hope you can work out what is going on with Jet soon. If you are not happy with what the dr said, the a 2nd opinion can't hurt. Was he concerned about the dry nappies and plasticine like poo? Don't stress about your DH... they are not with the bubs as much as we are and I don't think they have that same intuition that something isn't quite right. Good luck. I hope you get a better night's sleep tonight.
Sal - That was such a nice post. You are so right that the Oct mums are a great support network. I think you guys know more about what is going in my life than some of my girlfriends do (esp the ones without kids). So thanks to you all :yelclap:
I sent Kristin a PM, her username is Kristin5.
Good luck with operation "big boobs". :fingerscrossed: that Nedd has put on a decent amount of weight, so that's one less stress for you before the wedding.
Beck - I'll send you a PM about downloads, I'm not sure that you're allowed to post links here.
I don't always follow the feed-play-sleep routine. Sometimes Lara wants to feed and go straight back to sleep and I let her, most times I do play-feed-sleep. I fed Eloise to sleep until she was about 10mths old and we didn't have any problems with her putting herself to sleep once I stopped...in fact the only reason that I stopped was that she cut her 1st tooth at 10mths and I wanted her to have clean teeth before going to bed. Just for a change, I sometimes do feed-play-feed-sleep. I personally wouldn't wake one of my girls up for a play, but you know Kayley better than anyone and whatever you do is the right thing for you both.
Lara is a bit grizzly today. She has wind that she can't seem to get rid of, so she hasn't slept much beyond a couple of cat naps.
Hope you all get a good night's sleep tonight :wizard:
ourfirstbubba
15-01-2007, 19:32
hi girls
hope you all had a nice weekend.....:hugs: to you girls having troubles with bubs.....
We had a really nice weekend, we took Natalia out nearly all day and she slept alot of the time in the car...she is such an easy going baby.....people can be so rude though, we stopped off at one of our fave spots for coffee and cake, and my Mum was with us too..anyway, it was outdoors and a little windy so we found a little table out of the wind and could fit the pram also..so we kinda parked the pram, then this rude couple just sat down....:no: I told him that we were going to sit there as we had the pram etc( like I needed to explain???)...he told us that they were going to sit there and that there was another table further down (there were people sitting there???)....anyway, we walked away but my Mum couldnt help herself and told him "you are such a gentleman, thank you very much"...what a pig....
Getting Natalia to sleep all night is not a problem at all, she sleeps from 8.30pm until 5.30am, then from 6am until 8am..but where we struggle is the last feed of the night, she is really hard to feed (the 7pm feed)....even after a relaxing bath she is really tired, but hungry also, but just wants to sleep..any suggestions what I can do???? I know alot of babies get unsettled at this time but its really hard to get her to eat more than 100ml...am I trying to force her to eat when all she wants to do is go to sleep????
Jen- glad that Sam slept better and you have gotten to the bottom of what the problem was...
Sal- glad you spent some time with your Mum, and yes, bubs always know when you are about to eat, or go to the toilet!
Kimba Natalia loves the sling, she will sleep straight away in it, even if its not sleep time.....I use it when she is really unsettled and wants to be held all the time...have you tried putting Jet in the BabyBjorn the other way round so he can see whats going on??
Sare Natalia loves her playgym also, she looks like she is talking to the little anilmals that dangle above her, its so cute...
JuzP- got your message re the sling...with Farex, the nurses suggest not offering solids before 6 months, my Mum gave me Farex when I was 2 months....its a hard call...I am going to wait until Natalia is 5 months old....
myprecious hello...love the name Rowan
Pam it is amazing watching them develop! I am so paranoid when I use the change table, he is a little wriggler and arches her neck as far as she can to look out the window......lecture your hubby!!!!!
Sal- he he, can just imagine your fiancee, wanting to go to sleep and you handing him Nedd...go girl!
m_jelly my hubby has a bowl of cereal before he goes to bed...I dont get it, if you have had dinner why would you eat cereal before you go to sleep??? :smiliedance: for Abbey self settling......its a big achievement.....I hear Natalia through the monitor some mornings but know she is just having a little whinge then she falls back asleep....
Jen what are the variable flow teats you use? I have changed Natalia to the 3 month teats (we use the Tommee Tippee closer to nature bottles) and she drinks the milk very quickly and its quite messy....will this change???
Bec glad Kayley slept well yesterday...you need that if you have had a shocker the day before....glad you are feeling better too.....with regards to feed, play, sleep...sometimes Natalia does fall asleep on the bottle, esp for her last feed at about 8.30pm...she is not quite awake anyway when I am feeding her, so I dont wake her...but I do make sure that she knows she is being put into her cot so that when she does wake, she knows where she is if that makes sense...the sleep lady who came to our house said thats one of the reasons babies wake up and cant resettle because they are waking up in a different place to where they fell asleep....I am going to turn Natalia around in the BabyBjorn...poor thing, lots more to look at!
Kimba sorry to hear that Jet is playing up.....can you maybe get a sleep consultant to come in???? I know I sing their praises a bit but it worked for us....it was $300 and very worth the money.....
Jen bless your hubby...have some you time I think.....can I ask a question, what is silent reflux??? how is it different to reflux?
anyway, I have been trying to type this post since 4pm and its now after 8..but I have finished!
I think Natalias sleep times are changing, I am a little confused...she got up at 5.30pm after a 45 min nap....we bathed her, fed her at 6.30pm (she had 150ml) and was hysterical until we put her into her cot at 7pm and she fell asleep.....normally her bedtime is 8pm.....I am thinking that she will get up at about 9pm and we will feed her in her nursery and then she will be back down until 6am....
anyway girls, have a good sleep and I am sending sleep vibes to all the bubs that keep their Mummies up!
maybe1more
15-01-2007, 23:05
[QUOTE=Isabella's mummy;991357]Thanks for the new thread Kimba - I was only suggesting it as I know that there have been people look at the previous thread, not knowing it was for Oct 06 bubs.
I just found out this thread existed from Nedd`s lovely mummy:hugs:
My little tacker has been really good, he sleeps well and he`s qiute placid (so far). I could belive that he roll over two days ago at just 10 weeks:eek: my 1st baby didnt do this untill he was 4 months.
I feel for you ladies not getting much sleep, i have a 3 year old at home who wants my attention and is so hard dividing up your time when it seems like there is not enought hour in the day!! If im not feeding im washing clothes and doing dishes, ive even still been in my pj when my df gets home from work!!!
Good morning. DH did last night's feeds, so I got up once at about 4 and bub went back to sleep until 6:20. I have to say a big thankyou to all of you for your kind wors of support. What would I do without you all? :hugs:
Kimba - How was your night? Any better? I am off today to buy some of that Karicare thickener.
Sare - We don't watch ANY TV now; we download absolutely everything! We are Sci Fi geeks, DH is an IT geek, so we have a professional internet plan but we still manage to blow our cap and get throttled back to modem speeds each month!
ourfirstbubba - That would still eat at me. I am always saying to DH that I can't understand how mean and sellfish people can be and he says that I am naive. I probably am but I always expect the best of people. Good on your mum!
Avent do variable flow teats; they have a slot instead of holes and you face one of three notches (slow, medium, fast) upwards to bub's nose and that gives you the flow rate. I found that #3 teats were too much but #2 too slow. On #3, Sam gets it everywhere, like Natalia! This way, you can use an in between flow rate and if I am using a thickener, I can just turn the teat around a bit to make it go through easier. Stops you having to wash different sets of teats and change them around all the time.
Silent reflux is when the milk doesn't get thrown up but you can sometimes see it come up in bub's mouth and they swallow it again. Hard to diagnose but you can see their throat is irritated. The oesophagus (sp?) becomes irritated from the stomach acid and it hurts bub when the reflux happens. Then they decide that food = pain and it makes life very difficult!
firstbub - Your bub can roll already?! :eek: I keep trying to convince Sam to roll over but he doesn't like being on his tummy.
Better go; I have to drive DH to work so I can have the car. After all my tears yesterday, thought it might be a good idea to get out of the house. Might even have a Lite Mocha Frappuccino from Starbucks as one of my dieting treats...
Morning All,
Mary Adam can be the same. He normally goes down at 8pm and sleeps through but some nights he will go into a deep sleep at 6-6.30. I let him sleep until 7-7.30 and then I take him into our room, change his nappy and put his pj's on. Then he has his last feed. Some nights he will drop off during the feed, some nights I just want to hold him until he goes off to sleep but most nights I put him into his cot and turn his turtle on and that's him for the night.
I was ropeable last night though. Got him off to sleep and then 22yr old started a fight with 11yr old over tv and woke him. Did my royal banana with them both and sent them to bed (:laughing: should've seen the older ones face when he realised I was serious). Got bub back off to sleep then went for an hour walk, came home and went to bed.
Hey Kimba, hope Jet went better last night. I was going to suggest checking if he had oral thrush but you've been to the doc so I guess not. Are you using different soap or cream or anything on your body? I thought a different smell/taste might be upsetting him. Sometimes when Adam screams at my boob I just chuck him on it anyway and he will suck, othertimes I stick the tummy in and tap the end until he sucks it. Then he either goes to sleep or I take it off him and stick boob in :eek: . It helps to confuse them lol. Hope last night was better.
Ourfirstbubba- That man would have got the pram into his leg with me. It's like people at shopping centres who walk straight at you and expect you to move---"What you can't see the pram?" grrrrrr
I was nasty when we were away as we were parked in a pram park while I fed Adam and DH went to the supermarket. The lady who got into the car next to us (also parked in a pram park) was about 65 - no car seat - no child - nothing. That p****d me off but then when she left a woman with a 15/16 yr old pulled into the park. Same thing, no car seat - no baby - nothing. Adam finished his feed so I wrote a note saying that pram parks are for people with LITTLE BABIES &/or PRAMS, and that people like her made it impossible for people who need the extra space in a park to get one. Felt guilty afterwards but I was sooooooo mad at the time.
Anyway enough dribble from me this morning. Hope everyone has a lovely day xxx
Thank you all for letting me vent and for being so kind and sympathetic - I sincerely don't know what I'd do without the support I get here.
DH is being a **** this morning he took the day off work, but clearly not to help me or give me a break. Jet was screaming at 9.30 because I'd tried to put him down for his nap, and I was trying to calm him and hold it together but DH was just standing around shaking his head 'tsk tsking' and telling the baby off and just looking so bl00dy useless. I was a bit snappy with him so DH says to me 'look at you, there's something wrong with you' (like mentally). :mad: hello!!! yes I'm stressed and exhausted and my little baby is inconsolably screaming in my ear right now which is kind of distressing me, what do you reckon? So I told him to get out of my face and p1ss off :laughing:
Anyway...yesterday afternoon was OK but we had the same dramas last night trying to get Jet to bed. I'd fed him at 6.30, bathed him, read him a story/ cuddled him, then topped him up with a bottle of ABM at 7.30 and he'd dozed off, but woke as I put him into bed and then it was on - crying for about an hour and refusing to sleep. Wow it's so blinkin hard to settle a crying baby when they refuse the boob! That used to be my 'weapon of choice' LOL.
Anyway in desperation I gave him some Panadol at 9pm thinking maybe he was in pain (teething, colic, or reflux, who knows!) and he finally went down at 9.30 with a bit of EBM, and slept through till 2am, then again till 5.30am then came to bed with me till 8 so at least I got a bit of rest.
It's back on again this morning though - he woke happy at 8, didn't want to feed so I pumped instead, tried to put him down at 9 when he was sleepy and he cried and refused boob till 10.15, when I gave him the 40ml of EBM I'd just pumped (that's all I could get, pathetic hey) and he finally crashed. He hasn't had a 'proper' feed since 6.00 so I hope he doesn't refuse me again when he wakes up...:fingerscrossed:
Have made an appointment with Hope Cottage for a mothercraft nurse to come and do a day visit here (on Thursday) to help me with settling and sleep so I can't wait. I bet Jet is perfectly behaved when she's here though LOL. I also want to take him to a paed to get a second opinion about the reflux or whatever else might be bothering him but I need a referral from my GP, and my GP thinks there's nothing wrong with him, so it will be interesting to try and get a referral then!
back later for some personals I can hear my little monster waking - if I get to him in time with the dummy he might re-settle (I can only hope)
Flower159
16-01-2007, 11:02
Hi Everyone. Sorry I haven't posted in ages, I've been reading, but just haven't had the energy to post! (how pathetic am I?!)
Life's been a bit up and down recently. Logan was a right little menace for two weeks there and I was so over it and just as I was thinking that PND was coming to my house he started behaving again and I feel a bit calmer. I blew my lid at the whole house yesterday because not one of them thinks to help me at all, so they all got a mouth full and hopefully they'll start tidying up after themselves. Honestly, how am I supposed to get the kids to clean up after themselves when daddy leaves all of his stuff for me to clean up?!? Grrrr.
I've also told my BIL that I don't like his wife -long story but we left their NYEve party early and he asked me why, so I told him (whoops - like I say, I'm a bit stressed!) So now we're in Australia for 18 months with absolutely no support (not that she was much help anyway!) and my only friend has just moved 40 mins away and I don't drive ....... oh my god, how pathetic am I?!??!
I'm sorry about the me post, but I figured that maybe if I start chatting on here again and realising that I'm not the only one with issues then I might feel a bit better.
Like I say, Logan has started behaving again so life is better. I can't remember who asked, but I've started giving him Farex at night, two teaspoons and he wolf's it down. I too was worried about my supply as he just didn't seem content and was screaming but wouldn't take formula top up. So I've started with the farex and through that and the increased breast milk (he sucked that much that I could now feed twins!) he seems calmer. He's back to sleeping from 10 til 4 and then twenty minute feed and he sleeps until 6.30.
I also have a sore back, it's more my coccyx that's sore. It seems that when Logan was inside he has managed to bruise my coccyx and now it will take ages to heal - just par for the course.
Enough of this doom and gloom, though. My house is about 8 weeks away from being completed and it's looking great! I've just had a call from the blind people and their measuring up - it's so exciting!!!! Honestly, I'm up and down like a yo-yo!!
:hugs: to you all. Thanks for being there in my hour of need (although it's turning in to months!!) It really is such a help. Hope you're all good and I'll try and keep in touch a bit more often.
Next time I'll be a bit less :banghead: and a bit more :smiliedance: !!
Hi all,
Kimba - My DH does exactly the same thing, gets $hitty with Lara and being absolutely no help whatsoever. You were nice telling your DH just to p1ss off, I've used the f-bomb with mine a few times (this morning was one of them...in fact I used it multiple times. Lack of sleep will do that to a person, well does it to me :laughing: ) Good luck with Jet today. Hope the mothercraft nurse helps (I'm sure she will) and I'd definitely try and get a paed appointment (try another gp).
Di - You mean that you actually got a parents with prams park :D . I've maybe got one twice since Lara was born (I'm always at the shops). It annoys the hell out of me when I see people without carseats parked in them. I would have never dreamed of parking in one of these spaces before I had the girls. Good luck with your DSS, you've got a remarkable amount of patience to be dealing with that as well as a new baby.
Jen- Glad you got a better night's rest last night. Enjoy your Lite Mocha Frappuccino today.
Jenny - Welcome back. It is definitely tough witha baby and a toddler. I can't wait until Lara is old enough to play and that will hopefully distract Eloise from the terrible 2 behaviour she has been displaying of late.
Mary - I can't believe the cheek of some people. I think I may have "accidently" hit them with my pram too. :laughing:
Well Lara seems to be going through what your babies all went through a few weeks ago ... not wanting to sleep during the day. She's had one sleep already this morning and I've just put her back down after a long feed and a play, and she's already awake. She's not really crying, just havinga bit of a whinge, so I'm going to see if she will self-settle. :banghead: There goes that theory, Eloise has just gone in and pressed her aquarium and that is certain to wake her properly. She so cute in that she wants to help, but sometimes she make three times as much work.
Oh, looks like we are off to the tennis on Sunday. My brother's gf works as an accountant for a sporting company and was offered some free tickets for what ever day she wanted. She turned them down as they (brother and gf) are off to Canada for a snowboarding holiday on Wednesday, so offered them to us. So mum is coming to look after Eloise and DH, Lara and I are off for the day...can't wait.
Looks like Eloise's help has settled Lara, I shouldn't be so hasty to grumble at her.
Well I'm off for a shower (can't believe I'm still in my PJs at 12.15pm!!!) Hope you all have a great day (with babies that sleep).
GeorgiaAnne
16-01-2007, 16:18
Hi gorgeous girls,
Well, i did a big post at 1pm and lost it - I see that no-one has posted since then?
Kimba - I'm so sorry you are having such a hard time at the mo. I'm sure Thursday will be some help. Can your mum come and help for a bit? Sounds like you could do with an afternoon off with a nice cold glass of chardy! I went to a paed at rpa who was quite good if you want his details. I hope today is getting better.
Sare - How cute is Eloise! Great news for the tennis. We went last year for my bday and had a great time. It is funny to think i was pg and didn't even know it.
Di - how funny you sending a 22yo to bed. I would've loved to see the look on his face:laughing:
Jen - I'm glad little man Sam is a happier chappy. You're such a good girl with the low fat this and that.
Sal - Ikwym about the warm fuzzies - I much prefer you guys to my mothers group.
Mary - how funny, good on your mum!
Flower:wave: how exciting about your house!
First bub- golly gosh on the roll over, sounds like you will have an active bub!
Pam - my dh is the same with change table. Do they think they'll get a written warning when rolling will begin!
Sophia is all smiles today, which is good because I have a lot of work to do (but just want to play with her) We had world record sleep last night of 11-8. I feel like a new woman!
Anyway, better run, hope you all have fab night.
xx g
diesal444
16-01-2007, 16:22
HI EVERYONE!!!
Wow its been so long since i posted. I have definitly been keeping up with everyones posts, just havent had much going on here to discuss. Darcy had her immunisations last wednesday and i think i reacted worse then her. She squealed and cried and was a bit cranky for the rest of the day but other then that she was great.
Unfortunatly i have had to stop breastfeeding altogether which i was really dosappointed in. I was doin both, topping her up on formula. But things went downhill for us and she refused my breast and would scream and carry on for ages. I have been doind all i can to up my supply but nothing worked and we were both getting very stressed!!!!
Its like 38deg. in melbourne today so i have not ventured outside, very happy to stay in nice air-conditioning :yes:
My insomnia is getting no better so my Dr and i are trying to come to up with some solutions... :fingerscrossed: hopefully things will get back to normal soon.
My mum and my neice are flying down from newcastle tonight and i cant wait to see them.
As far as my PND goes we are working through it although my Dr seems to think that my Insomnia is making everything seem bigger then what it is coz being tired and not being able to fall asleep is frustrating in itself.
To make matters worse i had the biggest fight with DP yesterday, he pretty much said that i was putting it on...... !!!!.. God i let him have it and now he realises that this is NOT something i chose to suffer from...
Well enough blabber from me.:ecomcity:
Take care all and i hope to not be such a stranger!!!!!!!!!
ourfirstbubba
16-01-2007, 20:11
hi girls
well, I have another headache and I am over it! Just going to type my post and go to bed.......nothing sleep and 2 panadeine fortes won't fix......
Hope you are all well...Natalia is going great, we went shopping for a few hours today, and she slept most of the time in my sling, bless her......I saw a girl shopping who was in hospital the same time as me....one question, I have a 3 wheeler pram, and so did this girl, but she had the baby in the upright position.....does anyone else do this? I thought bubs had to be flat a bit longer for support on their backs?? He looked happy enough, I am just curious...
firstbub glad you found us again...I was the same, I didnt find the girls again until a few weeks ago...
Jen thanks for explaining the avent teats....the newborn teats (tommee tippee) were too slow, and I think after a few days Natalis is getting used to the faster teats, but yes, sometimes the milk goes everywhere, esp when she is very hungry and trying to gulp it down....and I think its good to get out of the house as much as possible.....I love Starbucks...
di_matt tonight Natalia was in bed at 6.45pm and got up at 8pm for another feed...she had 110ml and is asleep again......she will sleep now until 6am.....my hubby put her down tonight as I went grocery shopping and he said there was no way she could have lasted until 8-8.30, so he put her to bed.....I am just glad that it doesnt take long for her to get back to sleep.....she is great at self settling...good on you for getting cross ....I reckon if they wake the baby up they should put him back to sleep! and yes, looking back, I should have "accidentally" bumped that rude man with my big 3 wheeler pram..what a prat! And people who park where they shouldnt really annoy me, its like people who park in spots that are reserved for people with a disabulity...very rude...
Kimba good on you for telling your hubby where to go....and I really hope that you get some good advice on Thursday..ask lots of questions and take notes......
Flower159- how exciting to be moving to a brand new home....glad all is well with you and Logan.....look forward to hearing more about him!
Sare I would love to go to the tennis one year...I love watching it on telly....have a great day! How old is Lara now????
Georgia glad you had a great night with Sophia...hope she keeps it up......!!!
diesal4444 you have obviously done what is right for you and bubs with regards to BF......with regards to PND, I really hope your GP helps you out.....insomnia is a terrible thing...I get frustrated if I cant sleep one night , let alone all the time....take care hey....
well girls, I am off to watch the Golden Globes in bed..monkey pants Natalia is asleep and her Mummy will be too soon...
Like alot of the girls have mentioned, I am also glad to have you girls to chat with....I feel like I know you IFYWIM???
well sleep well and will talk to you tomorrow
xo
Ugh what a day. Since her morning sleep, Lara has had a 1hr sleep and that's it. She's absolutely exhausted, she just can't stay asleep. I think it is the heat, although we have air con and stayed inside all day, it's still warmer inside than it normally is. She has been permenantly attached to my boob for most of the afternoon and within 5 mins of putting her down to sleep, she would be awake squawking. UGH...
Mary - Hope the headache clears. Panadiene Forte is the only thing thing that I have a reaction to, luckily panadol usually clears up aches and pains for me. Lara's 10 weeks old now.
Mary-ann - Good to see you back. Glad you are getting some good help for your PND. :fingerscrossed: that the insominia will soon stop and things will start looking up for you.
Georgia - Yay to Sophia for such a long sleep. It's funny how our babies can be the perfect excuse for procrastination ... a perfectly good excuse for not doing the washing, vacuuming etc (my excuse anyway :D )
Marion - Good to hear from you. Sorry that you have been having such a rough trot. I love that last comment that you made about :banghead: vs :smiliedance:... made me laugh. It's a good positive way to look at things. I have to give you credit, building a house has been one of the most stressful things that I have gone through (and I just had to choose colours etc and then watch the thing being built) and you are doing it with a new baby - my hat goes of to you.
Oh well I'm off to watch another episode of 24 and then maybe some tennis in bed. No doubt I'll be on here again tomorrow chatting to you all again - lol
~Kristin~
16-01-2007, 21:16
Damnationdarnit - Wrote a huge post then it disappeared off into the wilderness, I'm sure there a yodeling lumberjack out there somewhere reading it now...
Anyhow, really don't have the energy to re-write the whole thing, must learn to write it in word 1st.
Isabella has been a right little turkey today. We started the day around 4.30am, then had only 3 x 30min sleeps all day :banghead: . These were combined with a whole lot of crying but then she would laugh at me (what the???) and she was being REALLY fussy with feeding. Not sure what is going on :confused: .
She finally had a big feed at 7.30pm and fell asleep at the end and is still sleeping (touch wood).
Q - Isabella has had her 1st Rotatec (however its spelt), but I cannot for the life of me remember when she is supposed to have the 2nd lot? Does anyone know the time between doses?
Only 2 more sleeps till we're off to Taswegian Land! :smiliedance:
SalTheGal
16-01-2007, 21:29
Hi everyone,
well after stressing that Nedd isn't gaining enough weight and offering him ABM top ups each night he has gained over 400g in the last week:eek: , sooooooo maybe we might have been a bit too generous on the top ups!
Maybe my little rascal is getting enough from me....just gets whingy cause he likes the in built dummy? What confuses me is that if he doesn't need the extra why does he guzzle it down so quick? Maybe he is just a guts!
I have been taking Fenugreek too, so maybe my supply is improving too, i will decrease the top ups a bit and see how we go.
Quick q's to anyone who gives a dream/rollover feed without waking bub- do you count this as their last feed for the night. Ie if you know they go 5hrs for instance do you count the five hours from that feed- or is it just a top up? Reason I ask is I've been giving one to Nedd to help with supply, but he is still waking up only a few hours later.....arghhh so confusing!!
Kimba :hugs: for you lovey. I am feeling your pain. Hope the mothercraft nurse has some answers, I am sure she will be a great help and you'll have your gorgeous boy back in no time :fingerscrossed:
Oh and tell DH from the bubhub girls he is being a prat and needs to pull his finger out. Isn't it interesting that if bub is cracking it we are there to rescue them if needed- they never rescue us though do they?!?
Mary yep that man at the restaurant sounds like an @ss- I am flabergastd by peoples attitudes sometimes!
Hoe your headache is better by the time you read this.....and you have had a good sleep.
Natalia sounds like such a treasure!! Her name is such a peaceful angelic name- sounds like she suits it to a tee.
Di That stepson of yours sounds like he is going to be more trouble than his worth, does he even know how you are meant to act when you are 22, not 12?!?!
Jenny- great to see you here!!
Marion good to see you here again, glad things are on the up and up!
Sare Had to laugh bout Eloise settling Lara, what a cutie!! How do you go taking Lara to the tennis? I usually go every year but aren't this year- I figured it would be too hard with Nedd, can you take them into the mains courts? Knowing my luck Nedd would crack it right at a crucial moment!
Maryanne Sorry to hear you are still suffering from the insomnia- poor thing. I barely get by on the sleep I am getting so I don't envy you getting even less.
Another one here whos partner is being a W@nka. Someone tell me that it gets like this just before you get married- we are fighting like cat and dog, just niggly things, but seriuosly he is being a pr!ck!!
At this rate there will not be a wedding- I am not interested in walking down the isle to meet this monster at the moment. Why why why do men have to go spoil things?!?!
I can't even start with how much he is getting to me cause I wouldn't know where to stop! I just wish men could sometimes take a step back and be rational, :banghead: instead of acting like a child! It doesn't help that he seriuosly needs his sleep, and lack of on his bucks weekend means that I am the one who cops it.
Anyone else feel like they are their partners emotional punching bag when things get on top of them?
Ok enough of a me vent, I am off to sleep in the spare bed in Nedds room tonight (1. cause I can't stand the sight of DF and 2. cause Nedd gets the only upright fan we have!)
Take care everyone!
SalTheGal
16-01-2007, 21:41
Just wanted to do some more of these
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Good evening girls!
Well a busy few days here wih Jordan. Had him weighed yesterday and he is now 9kgs - nearly double his birth weight!! No wonder my back is going. I spoke to the community nurse yesterday as well and she told me to turn his car seat around. I was hitting his head trying to get him over all the straps and it is also not doing my back any good and I have now pulled the muscles in my arm as well. He went for his first car ride forward today and loved it! He watched everything!!!
Kimba, you poor thing. I am glad you gave it back to him. I think men speak too much before they think about what they are saying! Call me if you ever want to talk.
Jen, did you manage to give Sam to your sister on Saturday so you could rest and have a break? I kept looking to see if you did this and how you were feeling but missed it. Saw that yesterday was a bad day. Keep your chin up :hugs: .
Sare, I 'm with you on the parking spot. We have a huge church near us and if I have to popp down the shops on a weekend for anything they are always parked in the pram spots. It annoys me. They don't have bubs to try to get in and out of the car and one day I hope they do and they can see why they have started to put these into car parks.
Sal, Dh and I fought over trivial things before our wedding. Actually I am still not speaking to our best man over some things and that was nearly 2 years ago. I am a wedding sort of person and if I was to marry again I would go somewhere simple and have a BBQ in the backyard and everyone wear jeans and t-shirts.
Di, good on your for having a go at your DSS. I would be mad as well.
Sare, has Eloise started to do number 2's in the toilet yet? My cousin is going through the same thing at the moment.
Anyway I am off to bed so I can catch up on some zzz's. Will chat with you all soon!
Lucy
Sometimes when Adam screams at my boob I just chuck him on it anyway and he will suck, othertimes I stick the tummy in and tap the end until he sucks it. Then he either goes to sleep or I take it off him and stick boob in .
I do exactly the same thing! Works a treat!
It's like people at shopping centres who walk straight at you and expect you to move---"What you can't see the pram?" grrrrrr
I hate that! I have decided to just walk in a straight line, and if people don't move than they are the ones who will get run over with the pram! (unless, yunno it's an old lady or something!)
Di, good on you for writting that note! I have wanted to do that so many times!
Kimba I hope that things settle down for you soon :hugs: Maybe the mothercraft thing will do the trick. Just go to the same doctor who gave the reflux diagnosis and ask for a referral to the pead. Have been thinking of you and little Jet.. It is really hard when they are inconsolable. I know that when Olivia was like that, I felt so bad, and that I should be able to settle her... it is very draining and shame on your DH for not being very supportive and sensitive!
Marion - You are not pathetic ((hugs))... good on you for telling it how it is. Good idea coming back to bubhub - there is nothing like having a good vent, and hearing that everyone else is going through tough times too.
Georgia - Yay for the record sleep! Hope it happens again tonight!
Mary-anne - Gosh, men can be such insensitive dimwits sometimes. Sending some sleep-inducing vibes your way hun. Hope you get that insomnia sorted quick smart, and that it makes everything more manageable.
Mary - I have bub upright in her pram all the time. She loves it, she is such a sticky beak!
Sal - Sorry that you are having troubles with your DF. Yep, I totally get that whole emotional punching bag thing... DH will say "I don't mean to be cranky at you, but it's work" or whatever. Tsk. Men.
Lucy - WOW.. 9kgs... no wonder your back is sore. What size clothes is Jordan in now??
Phew. So many personals. Now I couldn't be bothered writing what I wanted to say... I'll save it for tomorrow!! Hope y'all have a great night!
Flower159
17-01-2007, 00:05
Hi Everyone, thanks so much for all your nice messages - I feel all emotional now!
Ladies, did I tell you that Logan went off of the end of his changing table at 3 weeks old? Can't remember if I did. Anyway, I have no idea how he managed it (I mean they can't move at that age??!) but he managed it and I was heartbroken for three days and couldn't stop crying about it. We had him right up to A&E to have him checked out and he was OK, but what a fright. So make sure that you give all DH & DP's what for - do not leave those babies for a second.
Kimba, stick in there. Little Jet is a couple of days younger than Logan and I swear Logan was awful for about a week there and I just wasn't coping with his constant niggling. I just didn't know what was wrong with him. He woke up two days ago and was back to being his lovely self - Jet will settle down again and what a relief it'll be. And as for DH, well - give him a slap from me. My DH has has been less than ideal this week too - is it a full moon? Honeslty, they've no idea what it's like to have this little person to look after, the poor wee souls can't tell you what's wrong, so you have to guess and we can't always be right but as far as DH's are concerned, we should just cope and know what's wrong - I mean WTF??!?!? Anyway :hugs: for you - it will get better.
Lucy - I am very impressed with your 9kg boy!! I thought Logan was huge with his 8.2kg, but you win!! I know what you mean about the sore back -it's not easy having a cranky baby that wants to be carried. That's good about moving the car seat round - has it helped?
Sal - I've started giving Logan a roll-over feed and I count the hours slept from that. I have to say that I'm not noticing that he's sleeping any longer, but I'm just thinking that he'd be up more if I wasn't feeding him that extra feed - does that make sense? And I am my partners emotional punch bag too - If I'm stressed I cope with it on my own because if I put my worries on top of his he can't cope (tried it and failed!) but he can vent to me for hours about this and that and I've just got to cope. It's called being a woman!! (we are the strong ones after all :thumbsup: )
Mary - I hope your head is better. There's nothing worse than a headache and a baby that needs attention. Hope your sleep and tabs worked.
Sare - Enjoy the tennis. I've only ever watched it on the TV and always meant to go to Wimbledon before I moved out here ..... think it'll be a long time before I get to go now! Is Eloise behaving any better? My two girls are 18months appart and I remember the stress of adapting to them both. I have to be honest and say that I missed some of my older girls milestones because I was so focused on the youngest, but it was too late before I realised - thankfully Kelly hasn't noticed, and unless she reads this I wont get in to trouble! - but it's something to watch out for as I didn't even know I was doing it.
After I posted earlier Logan woke up and he hasn't been back to sleep until about an hour ago. He fed and fed, ate his Farex, then drank me dry and then wanted more and I didn't have any (so much for having loads!), he wouldn't take some formula or water and then he screamed and screamed, so I thought 'he's got wind' so I gave him some Gripe Water and he burped 3 mins later and then he fell asleep. Ah bliss. DH is night shift tonight looking after all the sick people, so I'm away to bed. Hope you all have good babies and get some decent sleep - it's amazing how much better you feel with a decent sleep.
Take care. Marion.xx
Good morning all,
Marion, I think Logan will be up near Jordan soon! There is about 2 weeks difference with them! Yes the car seat facing front ways is making a big difference for me. It is so much easier and I have not hit his head as yet. I can sit down in the car and strap him in and also when I put him in and take him out of the car. He loves it as well as he can now see what is out there and not stare at the ceiling (such a sticky beak!). He also doesn't get the sun sraight in his eyes. I found that sometimes if the sun was coming in the back wind the sun would shine straight into his eyes. This doesn't seem to happen now. We are now one big happy car full!!! well after I get to the masseuse for a a back fix up!
Marion, things happen so quickly don't they! I can't say I know how it feels but I can sympathise with you about Logan falling off his change table but I have a close friend of mine that has had a few things like that happen to her. Her bub climbed out of the cot and flat onto her face and also tumbled out of her swing. both times she just turned away for a second to get something or look at something. She felt so bad and only told me and her mother about it.
Pam, Kimba and Georgia, did you want to meet up soon? I am happy to do something soonish and that way we can all join up to help Kimba through this time with Jet. What do you think? Mondays and Fridays are out for me - any other day is usually fine.
Jen, how are you? Been thinking about you. Will send Kirstin5 a PM. Keep thinking of her as well. Poor thing.
Mary, hope your headache is on the mend. I used to get migraines after an extremely stressful period in my life, but over the past 6 years I seem to have out grown them. Or maybe I am not so stressed and upset!!!
I may sound a bit dumb, but what is Rototec? I saw someone post this before and meant to ask, but forgot.
As for last feeds, Jordans is at about 8-8:30pm and he sleeps through to abut 5 or 6am, has a bottle then down until about 9am. We tried waking him at10 for a feed but he was not interested. Most of the time he was comotised and would suck for about 10 seconds then back off to sleep. So we cut that out. I just have to learn to go to sleep at 8:30 as well and then I can get a good night!
Anyway I'm sure you have heard enough from me. Going to take the girls to Cold Rock Ice-cream today for a treat. They are such great girls to mind and they go home tomorrow.
Take care all and will PM the Sydney girls to organise a meet up soon.
Lucy
Good morning my beatiful ladies and pudgy babies
It's far to early to be awake imo, as evidenced by the fact that a moment ago I tried to use my bowl of cornflakes as a touch pad. Not surprisingly, the cursor didnt move and it felt abnormaly wet.
I think it might be time to turn Abbey's car seat around too, she's 8kg and its becoming a snug fit in the insert. Hopefully she will be easier to get in and out then, and not vomit everytime i put her in cos ive squished her tummy!
Has anyone else's bubs started squealing high pitched noises just for fun? I squeal back and it sure surprises her.
her favourite game though, is "I'm a big baby and I will squish you". She loves it when I lie down and she stands and jumps on my tummy and I make big help help noises cos she is sooooo big. Cracks her up every time. Yesterday she laughed so hard that she got he thiccups and started puking with each hiccup, while still giggling!
re pram parks - I can usually get one of these at my local westfield, smaller places not a chance. When I cant, oh what a hassle! With a 3 door car the doors have to open really wide to get yourself and a baby out of the backseat without tripping - it can be interesting getting out with no room to open the door. I find myself checking the pram park cars for baby seats too. I must admit tho, I parked in them when I was heavily pregnant too. I figured I was a walking pram, and needed the room to get out of the car.
Well princess wants my attention again. Gotta go squeal back.
Has anyone else's bubs started squealing high pitched noises just for fun? I squeal back and it sure surprises her.
Yes... Olivia does the loudest squeals. First it's cute, but then when she gets fussy she squeals with a note of frustration.
Bub has started to wake at night again. Which is fine, but I am out of the habit of going to bed early! She goes to bed at 8:30, but I keep going to bed at 11:30, only to have bub wake at 3 and then 6. :banghead: I must go to bed early tonight!!
Mornin' everyone. Just a quick one. I am off to the doc with bub today as he is back to screaming every time I try to put him down for a nap. Poor little tyke is exhausted, so I think it might be time to try some medication.
Had another cry this morning because Sammy wouldn't stop screaming and was inconsolable :thumbsdown: . MIL didn't end up helping out on the weekend because she got sick. My sister spent the whole time talking about herself as she does and DH can't seem to settle Sam like I can, so I end up with him back again after 5 minutes or so. I'm feeling very down and am hoping the doctor can figure something out. I know I need some help but although people offer, they only want the baby when he is all cute and smiley. I'm sure you all know how that is! Anyway; DH keeps telling me it will get better but it isn't, so I'm cranky with him :mad: as he can't even manage Sam for ten minutes. Dork-head!
Well; I'm off to eat as Sam finally stopped fussing and crashed out. At least with the way things are I don't have time to over-eat :laughing:
Hi everyone, just dropping in to say I'm back at work & everything's going fine so far. Hopefully I'll have time for a proper catch up on the weekend! :yes:
Hope everyone's going ok.
Just a quick one from me. After a shocking night with Lara being unsettled and not getting much sleep, today has been much better. She is still really fussy, but has been down for 2 x 1hr naps already, so :fingerscrossed: .
But I just had to get on and share my good news with you all... Eloise did #2's on the toilet this morning :smiliedance: Hopefully this is the start of it all. Ok, just had to stop for a minute because my little :angel: has just taken herself to the toilet and taken her shorts and tried to get her nappy off (she'd just done a wee in her nappy, so I think we're getting there :yelclap: ) I'm so happy!!!! lol
Be back after lunch for some personals.
SalTheGal
17-01-2007, 13:04
:yelclap: for Eloise!!
Jen- hope you are having a better day today.....good luck at the Dr's- hope you get some answers.
Isn't it hard work when we are the only one who can console bub? My mum is pretty adept at it too, but DF really struggles and often ends up hading him over to me.
Pam- Nedd is the same re waking. He was going through till 5am but is now waking somewhere between 2-3am for an extra feed....maybe its the heat?!?!
M-Jelly- Sounds like lots of fun with Abbey is being had by you, she sounds like she is a real little personality (if a bit of a spewie one!!)
Marion- What a fright bout Logan going off the change table, and a very BIG wake up call for me, I am afraid I am often guilty of ducking into another room whilst he is on his table to grab something, or I will leave him there whilst I get his bath ready (in the same room). It must have giving you such a fright- wonder you didn't need rushing to a&e yourself for treatment for shock. :hugs:
Well Mum babysat for me this morning so I could go get some final shopping done for the wedding. Took me bout half the time without Nedd!! And I think I have all the shopping stuff done now- so can just relax and do home stuff (place cards etc).
It is so awesome having mum and dad living here now- I don't know how I would cope without having her to call on, and I think she is loving being so close to one of her grandchildren!
DF is being a bit kinder today- and I got him to admit he was taking his frustrations out on me......the annoying thing is that you can almost always get them to acknowledge they are in the wrong after the event...why can't they just realise that and apologise (or better still not be an @ss at all) in the first place.:confused:
Well off to wake my boy up as he has slept way longer than usual (my mum seems to have the effect on babies- they sleep..........copious amounts, maybe I should offer her services to those of you with unsettled bubs) and I am rather full from missing his last feed.
Take care!:wave:
Hello my friends!
Well, I am officially A Bad Mother. Last night I'd fed Jet at 7.30 and was settling him for bed and knew he wouldn't be having another breastfeed for hours, so I had a big glass of wine as I cuddled him to sleep. Ohhh, lovely. He went to bed at 8, with only a little bit of drama. And it was all SO GOOD that I had another glass to celebrate. Well wouldn't you know it he woke at 8.30 and wanted a feed :eek: Since he's been refusing feeds and bottles, and not having enough wet nappies, and my supply is dropping because of fewer feeds, I couldn't pass up a chance to feed him. And a sneaky voice in the back of my head said 'maybe another feed with a little bit of alcohol will help him sleep tonight'. :devil6:
So I'm sorry to say that YES I breastfed him while I was a bit tipsy :eek: Only from one side though, to minimise it as much as possible. I figured it was no worse than mum putting brandy in my bottle as a baby...don't call DOCS! LOL. Anyway I hoped he'd sleep 5-6 hours after that, but he woke at 12! Serves me right I guess. Then he thanked me by waking again at 1.50, 3.30 and 5.40 :rolleyes:
I caved yesterday and started him on Losec to see if it makes a difference. Deep down I suspect it won't, because I really don't think it's his reflux bothering him, and I feel bad about medicating him and messing with his digestion (Losec stops stomach acid being made) if that's the case - but I have to try. I would feel worse if it WAS his reflux and I did nothing about it.
Anywho - the biggest thing worrying me right now is not the unsettledness and refusal to sleep (I'm kind of used to it now!), but not wanting to FEED!
He definitely isn't getting enough milk, as his wet nappies have halved in the last few days. But he's pretty content today, is smiling and cooing, isn't acting hungry, and I can't exactly force feed him. I've been sticking a boob or bottle in his mouth every opportunity I get but he just won't take much (very small bf's from one side, doesn't want the other side, and only about 60ml max per bottle feed). I don't know what else I can do though? I've even been trying to get him to drink water to keep him hydrated but he won't drink it.
He put on 1.5 kilos in the last 4 weeks and now weighs 7.2kg, so he has plenty of chub to spare, I guess a few days of low feeds won't hurt him, and I'm pumping to maintain my milk supply - but I'm just worried it will continue and he'll get sick?
At least I have the nurse coming tomorrow so I guess I just keep giving him whatever he'll take till then, and she can tell me what to do.
Big hugs to those of you who aren't feeling well, who are having hassles with their men and who's bubs aren't sleeping! Will be back for personals later I promise.
Hi All
I dont get on to post for a day and there are a million posts to read which are all swimming around in my head so only a couple of personals!
Kimba - I agree you should probably go to a pead for a second opinion - I dont think GPs are much help at all half the time. I know this sounds terrible but if nothing is uncovered then maybe it is time to try all bottle feeding - my sisters friend had a similar problem with screaming, restlessness, not enough sleep and not eating enough and when she was put on the bottle it all cleared up - she felt a lot better as well which is the main thing you need to look after yourself!!
Kristen - if you had Rotateq which is what Kayley has had then you need three doses at a minimum of 1 month apart (and all have to be taken by about 4 months I think) - Kayley just had her second. If it is Rotarix there are only 2 doses and I am not sure on the frequency.
Lucy - Rotateq is a vaccination against Rotavirus. This is a severe form of gastro which most children get at lest once before they are 5 and often invovles a stay in hospital. It can be deadly from causing dehydration but we have good medical care in Australia and this is usually only overseas. I think you need to have the first dose before 12 weeks but you would have to check with your GP. It is probably going to be added to the immunisation schedule in the future but for now you have to pay for it yourself which is relatively expensive (Rotateq is costing me just under $90 a dose and you need 3). Hope this helps!
Jeffy - interesting about your definition of silent reflux - Kayley does bring milk up and swallow it with an occasional spew as well but doesnt seem to bother her too much. I have a pillow on the change table and dont put her on her back to play after a feed but thats about it - we will see when she hits the 3 month mark if she starts getting pain as her colic has all but gone now (touch wood)! Again from my post to Kimba - maybe some formula could help???
Well Kayley has been really good, sleeping 3 - 4 times during the day and at night. I dont think she is going to drop her 3am feed any time soon as she is just a little hungry bugger (usually feeding 2.5 hourly during the day still) but I am coping fine with this. Bedtime routine is usually working (not last night but I did have a beer during the day and every time I have a beer she has trouble settling - bugger)! She is sleeping between 8 and 10 hours a night now (albeit broken sleep) and I am still giving her a rollover feed at 10:30.
As for rolling over - Kayley is nowhere close because she still hates being on her tummy - she does shuffle around on her back though! I am thinking about putting the change table up against the wall so she doesnt shuffle off!
As for other topics (too many posts to remember who posted them):
baby parks - I have never got one, they are never free in my area!
carseats - I think Kayley is still too small to go forward (recommended 9kgs or 70cm) but will probably go a bit early as she is such a nosey parker I think she will like to look around. She does get grizzly in the car at the moment and turning around fixed up her cousins car whinging!
prams - I had Kayley propped up a little (not fully sitting just an angle) pretty early as she hated being flat on her back (also helped for reflux) - she seems happy being up.
Last thing - if anyone doesnt know, target has a big baby sale on at the moment - I just went down to buy a high chair for $80 off.
Oh well that is enough rambling from me.
Hugs to all those having problems. A big thumbs up for those standing up to people doing the wrong thing (including DHs and people parking in the wrong spots) and best wishes to all of you.
This is a grerat bunch of people and I as many of you are happy to have you all around.
Gotta go and pick up a waking baby:)
Kimba - you posted while I was typing! Dont worry about the drinks a couple every now and then is not a problem. Only thing is it sounds like Jet is like Kayley and alcohol makes them unsettled - bugger!!
Good luck with the losec, sounds like you are already tring formula and breast so thats about all you can do. If Jet is anything like Kayley (which it sounds like) he has plenty of rolls to get him through a few days of eating less!
Sal... my sister is a little like your mum - she can get Olivia to sleep all the time! She doesn't even have her own kids, but is very happy to settle Olivia when she is being a ratbag.
Wow, not long to go until your big day! Very excited for you! You will have to post pics so we can all see :)
Hi all,
As promised I am back...
Kimba - I remember having a few drinks when I was bfing Eloise and she had no problems. I did feel guilty though.
Good luck for tomorrow.
Beck - Eloise rolled from her back to her tummy first (she does everything out of order - lol) Kayley just might surprise you.
Sal - Not long now. I 2nd Pam, there better be photos :D . Sorry to hear that your DP has been giving you such a hard time. Mine hates confrontation and that just drives me crazy :banghead: Yep, Eloise is very cute in settling Lara. The second she hears her cry she runs to the cradle and says "Lara needs dummy" and stuffs in into Lara's mouth whether she likes it or not.
re: taking Lara to the tennis, it does say on their website that chn 2 and under don't need a ticket, they just need to share a seat, so don't think there will be a problem. Lara doesn't really cry that much and practically never when she's being held. If she does get unsettled I'll just have to take her outside.
Jen- Good luck at the drs. Hopefully s/he can tell you what's going on with Sam.
Lucy - I can't believe that Jordan is almost double his birth weight - that's awesome. Lara must be a slow gainer, because she had only put on just over 1kg since her birth at 2 months. she was a decent 4.15kg at birth though. Cold Rock... I love Cold Rock. My favourite is their peppermint choc chip with peppermint freddo through it yum. Close behind is their white chocolate with malteasers. Yum Yum. Got to be good though, one day I will be able to have it (in moderation of course :) )
Off on a tangent for a while. I've now lost just over 5.5kg, so I'm rapt. My aim is to lose another 9-10kg before Lara's baptism in 6.5 weeks.
Marion - I'm another who leaves the baby on the change table. From now on if I have to leave her for a second I'm going to put her in her cradle (which is next to the change table).
Update on toilet training - this time with no stress or pressure. No more toilet action (well she's sat on it about 5 times but nothing has happened) but no accidents either. Eloise is having a nap at the moment so is in a nappy, but will be back into knickers when she wakes up. :fingerscrossed:
Quick question for our rollers - are they ambi - rollers? Can they roll fronttoback/backtofront from both sides or do they concentrate on one side only?
just trying to work out if Abbey is favouring one side due to her neck or if they all do it.
Hi guys,
Here's an update from Kristin
We're home again. Ryley had the biopsy on Monday - it was a very long op, as they had a lot of scar tissue (from the bowel perforation) to deal with. They told us before hand that they wouldn't do the pull-through operation at the same time. So they only did the biopsy but it is GREAT news - only the left hand side (the end part) of his large bowel is affected, NOT the whole large bowel. Which is fantastic! They will now do the pull-through op on Monday 5th of February, and he will lose between 20-30cm of his bowel. His bowel is currently about 250-300cm long and grows to 500cm, so the bad effects of this op may not be as bad as feared initially. He probably will have problems with diarrhoea still, particularly as a child, but ultimately the rest of his bowel will learn to adapt and replace the workings of the bit cut out.
He had a few problems this time with the anaesthetic and had some breathing problems, but he recovered fairly quickly and we got him home last night, a day earlier than planned, so that was a bonus.
I hope Lara is having a good day today. Ryley I think is still a bit dopey from the anaesthetic as he had some massive sleeps last night and this morning - I had a sleep-in til quarter to 11!!!
I even got to go to Mother's group today (the second session) - I joined a later one than I should have due to Ryley being in hospital. They are also planning to have one for some prem babies which we have been asked to join and I will probably do that too as it will be nice to talk to other mum's who have 'unhealthy' babies. Though today's session was good and I had some great chats with a couple of the mums. You probably haven't joined one again have you? I see it as a nice opportunity to make friends in the area as I don't know too many people around here.
So glad it's good news for them :smiliedance:
Hey All
M_Jelly : You're parking in the pram park as a pregnant woman supports my arguement that they should have pregnant parks. In all honesty once we have bub putting him/her in a pram and pushing them to the shops is no drama. Being 7-9 months pregnant on the other hand and having to walk from the furthest car park in the place to the shops is a whole other story. You should need a permit from your doc from 6 months on to use wither pram/disabled parks in my opinion.
Kimba: Hope little Jet is in a better mood and you are smiling ( we all love you :hugs: ) and we do care. Maybe he isn't hungry after all and that's why he's screaming at you when you try to feed him lol. Who would know with these little monkies????????????
Jen: Hope Sammy is soon feeling better too. I sympathise with anyone having a rough trot.
All I have to complain about is Adam not sleeping during the day for longer than 15 minutes but then he sleeps 10 hours at night so I am not going to trade that. My 2nd daughter was a shocker though and spent nearly the 1st 12 months in tears ( well it felt like it at the time). Now she's 14 and no better ha ha ha.
Well I hope everyone has had an ok day and has a great night. I am heading for bed soon so I don't do any kind of injury to anyone who lives in this house :laughing: .
Chat soon xxx
~Kristin~
17-01-2007, 21:32
Hi ladies!
Kimba - Don't fret over the wine, I had 2 Baileys the other day thinking little one was going to stay asleep per her usual program but of course she woke up about 20mins after 2nd glass... opps :o . Its not like we're on the turps in a bug way and our bubs will be fine.
Beck - Ta, have 2nd Rotateq planned for next immunisations on Feb 2nd.
Well I had to take Bella off to the Dr today. Her screaming and fussing has gone on for 2 days now. Dr has up'ed her Losec doses, doubled it actually. SHe has a red sore throat, poor little noodle, I feel so bad for her :crying: . But tonight she already seemed more settled so the stuff must work.
We're off to Tassie in the morning. Flight should be interesting considering she has been so unsettled, heres hoping it goes well. :fingerscrossed:
Hope everyone has a great couple of days, will have lots of reading to do when we get back on Sunday catching up on all your news.
Kristin
Good morning all,
Thanks Bec on the Rotovirus info. Had never heard of it before and no-one, except for you faithful buhubbers have ever mentioned it me me - no doctors, paeds or nurses. I've never seen it mentioned in the million books, magazines and information packs I have got as well!! Too late for Jordan to start, will look at it for the next one.
Kimba, you are not a bad mother. I remember in our birth classes the midwife told us it was okay to occassionally have a glass of wine. The wine gets "watered" down anyway so is not that strong.
Kristin, good luck with the flght.
Di, second you for a pregnant car park campaign. A lot of the times near the end I sometimes could not even fit between the cars to get through to the shopping centre, no wonder my ankles and feet got so swollen!!!
Sare, :smiliedance: :smiliedance: :smiliedance: for Eloise!!! Tell her we are proud of her! Thanks for the update from Kirstin. Ryley sounds like he will eventually be all okay. :fingerscrossed:
Sal, not long to go now.... I would be lost as well without my Mum here to help. She is fantastic. If I ever need her for anything she is here for me.
Jen, dissappointed in your sister. I was thinking of you on Saturday and hoping you were resting.
All okay this neck of the woods, my friends kids go home today. took them to cold rock ice-cream yesterday, one got double chocolate with malteasers and kit kat the other strawberry with caramello koala. I got banana with picnic!! YUMMO! Sare, going to try your white chocolate combination next - that sounds lovely!
Well going to fly and catch up on some house work before the tribe awakes!
Catch up soon
Lucy
Hi All,
Just wanted to give big :hugs: to Jeffy and Kimbaleo. I know exactly what you are going thru as Jacinta was acting exaclty the same as Jet and Sam. I have a Mothercraft nurse staying with me at the moment and she has been a godsend. She has spent many many years dealing with reflux babies and she says this is exactly what Jacinta has. We did have her diagnosed with reflux over Christmas and put her on Losec and she improved slightly but still not enough. The Mothercraft nurse said she sees this all the time. The doctors dont prescribe enough. They need to be on Losec at least twice a day and usually three times. Anyway it is obviously up to each Mum to decide what is best for their bubs. But if you want more info check out this website
http://www.marci-kids.com/ its very interesting, new research that shows due to a babies high metabolic rate they need higher and more frequent dosages of Losec, and also that you cannot harm them buy giving them Losec as it will only activate if they have acid in their stomach.
Anyway worth a read. I really hope things get better.:hugs: :hugs: :hugs:
kristin5
18-01-2007, 09:06
I'm baaaaaaaack!
Thanks to Sare and Kimba for updating you all on Ryley (and for still making me feel a bit included in the Oct 06 mum's group!)
And thank you to all of you for your thoughts and concern - it means a lot to me.
I won't even try to make up for lost time - I will just try to join in now...
Ryley is not rolling - yet. He hasn't spent much time on his tummy until the last week or so, and has only now just started liking it (a little). He has tried to roll, by hooking his leg into the side of the cot and levering himself over, however he has an ileostomy bag on his stomach which makes things difficult for him (especially when he has had a lot of wind and it blows up like a balloon - we are just waiting for the day it will burst! Yuck!)
I am feeling relatively normal today as last night was the first night he has slept right through - put him down at 9.30pm and he didn't wake til 6.15am. Unreal! He was probably ready to sleep through last week, but I kept waking him around 3-4am (well, I was awake so I figured he should be too!) He has always been a very good sleeper at night and has only ever woken for one feed during the night. It seems as soon as it is dark, he knows it is sleep time - now I want daylight savings to end!
I have found that since we started bathing him at night (around 7), this has relaxed him so that he sleeps longer at night.
Days are a different kettle of fish though, and he usually sleeps for an hour or two in the morning, and then nothing until night again - afternoons are shocking. And he wants to be entertained all the time, which can get a bit tiring. He is now getting to the stage when he can play by himself for a while, gooing and gaaing at everything around him, especially the mobile hanging above his cot - he loves it (well, it's black & white - what's not to love? Right, Sare?!)
We went out to dinner on Tuesday night - to celebrate the brilliant news concerning Ryley's health (that is the best we could have hoped for) and he came too (as we got him out of hospital after only 1 night! He's a strong little bugger, even with multiple 'bullet wounds' in his stomach) and he was a perfect angel. It was wonderful. He is a little treasure (though he does have a temper - takes after his dad! ;) ) Better than NYE when we took him out (as it was also our first wedding anniversary) - he cried constantly and we had some well-meaning people telling us he probably had a dirty nappy - ah, no he doesn't!:D
Speaking of weddings - did I read that someone here is getting married? If so, Congrats! I found it very easy planning our wedding, which was a surprise to everyone. We just had it at home, very low key and invited family around for NYE drinks, and then surprised them by getting married (only problem was, that none of our siblings could make it - so they missed out!) But this way it was nice and personal and inexpensive as well (we had just built a new house, so needed to save some money!).
Anyway - I will try and stick around for a bit now. Should be easier now that Ryley is doing better.
(Oh, and hi to Kristin - it is weird logging on and seeing everyone talking to Kristin, and it's not me! There's not too many others out there, spelt the same way!)
Welcome home Kristin - so very glad to hear Ryley is doing well now.
Adam has a pair of sandals on today that he was given. They are a little big but they look cute so I left them on. Who knows by the time I think to get them out again they might be too small lol.
Well all is well here. Went house hunting this morning for a bit but got over it. Adam is on my knee licking my shoulder as I type (yummo), it was my thumb last night before bed but as long as he's happy who cares.
Not long til the wedding now....Hope plans are stll going well.
We've just decided the shoulder isn't doing it so I better go & flop the boob lol
Have a good day all
SalTheGal
18-01-2007, 12:34
Welcome back Kristin5 :smiliedance: Its great to hear from you. We have been following Ryleys progress intently and am so glad that he is doing so well. You have a strong little man there!!
He is a good boy sleeping so well thorugh the night you lucky thing!! But I agree it does get hard when they want entertaining through the day.......my DF never really accepts that as an excuse for the piles of dished, lack of vacuuming, dirty washing in laundry etc. :D
Nedd loves sucking on my shoulder too. Kinda wierd but a little soothing, bit like getting a massage I reckon!!
Nothing exciting to report here, I am a bit peeved cause Nedd was doing so well with his night sleep until my milk supply dropped- now the little terror is lucky to push four hours :banghead: , and once he has had one long sleep then it is 3hrly from then on.
You are making me very jealous with this talk of cold rock icecream........I've never heard of it, is it in all states? SOunds delish- pity I can't have dairy anyway!!
Well off to spray paint bottles for the table deocrations this arvo, I am rapt cause I went and bought all the stuff I needed for the reception decorations yesterday and got the lot for $100 :smiliedance: I am very excited bout how it will look so i will be showing off photos for sure!!
Oh my goodness I can't believe I never tried Cold Rock when I lived in Cronulla - never realised it was so good! White chocolate with maltesers? Sare, STOP IT! LOL. I reckon would have eaten buckets of the peppermint choc chip with peppermint freddo when I was pregnant, had I known about it.
Thanks for the reassurance about the alcohol and BFing, I didn't think it could be that bad either. Damn shame it didn't settle him actually, otherwise I might have found the answer to getting him to sleep through!
Well Lorraine the mothercraft nurse has spent a lovely morning with me showing me how to get Jet to sleep. Worked twice while she was here and he also woke after 40min and I resettled him to sleep a bit longer :smiliedance: So fingers crossed with a bit of perserverance over the next few days I will be able to teach him to self-settle again, like he used to.
She said there's nothing wrong with him at all, just that he's really alert and cluey and sometimes babies just forget how to settle and need to be taught again. With the breast refusal she said that's normal too at his age, being distracted and wanting to play. Couldn't help me with getting him to sleep longer at night - but hopefully once he learns to self-settle he will do it when he wakes at night rather than needing a comfort feed.
She also said his reflux doesn't appear to be bothering him at all today (no signs of pain or distress) so maybe last week was just a flareup. I'm going to stick with the Losec for a little while anyway just in case.
Anyway. Let's see how it goes...I'm still seriously sleep deprived (he went to bed at 7.30 then woke at 9, 12, 2, 4 and 6 last night) but I figure it can't get any worse! so I am optimistic it will get better soon.
Re: pregnant car parks - I agree absolutely! I had much more need of a pregnant park than a pram park (although it's nice to get a pram park too of course). I agree with the suggestion that once you hit 6 months you should be able to use disabled parks - I was a lot more disabled when I was heavily preg and struggling to walk with SPD, than some of the so-called disabled permit holders!
sal - getting exciting now!!! I love weddings. Can't wait to see photos. It's crappy how our low milk supply makes our bubs wake more often isn't it. Still, hopefully feeding more often will get it back to normal soon.
di matt - thanks for the virtual hug. Had to laugh at Adam licking your shoulder Jet does that to me too! He tries to eat my face as well. It's a bit disconcerting when you go to kiss them and they try to tongue pash you! :laughing:
kristin5 - welcome back! So good to see you posting again and so good to hear the news about Ryley. Look forward to seeing a bit more of you around here. And well done on him sleeping through!
ans - big hugs back to you! Thanks for the link, I will read up on it. The nurse today said she doesn't think that Jet's reflux is bothering him now (which I agree with - although it seemed to be last week). But I'm going to stick with the Losec for now just in case it IS helping him.
lucy - I only found out about Rotavirus from a mum in my mother's group, otherwise I would have been none the wiser either. My doc didn't know much about it and didn't even think to give me a repeat when I got the original script (even though you need 2 doses). Jet is not far off doubling his birthweight now too - he was 7.2kg on Monday! :eek:
kristin too - sorry to hear that bella's reflux is worse I hope the Losec does the trick for her. Have a great trip to Tassie! My parents are there at the moment, they just built a holiday house there.
m_jelly - Jet rolls from tummy to back occasionally (think it's more fluke than anything though) and is trying to roll from back to side, when he's on his back he pushes and twists and arches his back up like he's doing yoga LOL. I've found him on his side in bed sometimes after putting him down on his back.
Sare - well done on the weight loss and on the toilet training! :yelclap: Hope you enjoy the tennis. I also have to stop leaving Jet on the change table especially now he starts wriggling and trying to flip over as soon as I get his nappy off.
OK I can't see any more posts now, so to everyone else hope you are having a good week!
GeorgiaAnne
18-01-2007, 13:48
Hi lovelies,
:wave: Kristin5, welcome back. I have read about your boy's progress. You have all been through a lot, but he does sound like such a strong, gorgeous boy.
Sal - good work with the decorations, not long now. We will all be thinking of you on the 26th
Anita - good for you with the mothercraft nurse. I was thinking about that for #2.
Di - I agree with you for the carspaces, when i was pg I was quite big and just used to park wherever I wanted - people don't seem to argue with a heavily pg woman!
Lucy - no-one told me about Rotovirus either. I was thinking about getting it and didn't realise it was too late :banghead:
Kristin - Hope the flight goes well to Tassie and you have a great time
Sare - well done on the weight loss - are you doing anything special? I seem to be stuck now on the same weight and still have 12 kg to lose to get back to pre pg.
Beck - Sophia was the same and hated tummy time so I was naughty and didn't do it as much as I should. I put her down for some the other day and she went straight onto her forearms with her head straight up! So she picked it up by herself
Kimba - no worries about the booze, just another thing for us to feel guilty about! I hope you enjoyed it at the time.
Miss Sophia is having a lovely day today apart from the torture of a bath this morning. She still seems to really hate it. I have read lots of stuff :ecomcity: and she likes it little more when I am in there...any ideas?? Another 11-8 night:smiliedance:of sleep so feeling good! She hasn't slept a wink since then though. Jen, how's things? And Kimba, I can't wait to hear about the cottage lady!
xx g
Kristin5 - great news about your LO... :) I loved the story of how you got married - sounds like a lovely idea to me. If I were to do it again, I would go simple.
Kimba - There is a Cold Rock in Parramatta - I love the stuff. Mmmmm.... Old english toffee with cookie dough mixed though..... *drools*... I wonder how many points that is!!
I have been sitting here holding Olivia, whist having the sample womb sounds on from Sounds in Silence (just google it)... Olivia went straight to sleep!! It's making me sleepy too! Maybe I should play it at night to help me get to sleep!
Sal - Olivia was doing the same thing with feeding - but after 4 days of it, she is back to sleeping through. "This too shall pass" :yes: I agree about the shoulder sucking being like a massage - nice, but wet!! Olivia likes using me as a teether lately - not nice when she has finished feeding and decides to munch on me! I have to pay careful attention when she is feeding!
I am so sick of Olivia squerming (sp?) her way out of her wrap - I am going to design a sleep suit that holds the arms across the body - like a wrap but not and she can't get out of it *insert evil laugh*... those sleeping bags are good, but they don't hold her arms down. I will let you all know how it goes!
I started Sam on Zantac last night and he slept 2 x 5 hours. He is a happy kid again and doesn't even whinge that much when I whack the syrup down his gob! Although Sam is doing better, I am an EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED WOMAN! Not in that way (well, actually, yes. Would love some horizontal tango but am just too tired at night!) I thought I could finally afford some new clothes but now DH's stupid cat has an infected cheek (again) so we have to go back to the vet. Last time it cost $400! I hate cats.....what is it with us and our pets lately?! Please feel free to laugh at me!
di_matt - I have never cried so much in my life, so can totally empathise! And Sam loves licking my shoulder as well. I think it is the salty taste from my stinky sweat...
Isabella's mummy - Poor bubby! My doctor is an idiot and basically agreed with my own diagnosis. Hope your flight went well. I have never been to Tasmania. One day!
lucy72 - My sister is just like that. I had to fly up to Alice Springs when my mother tried to knock herself off a couple of years ago and this sister refused to help pay for the funeral, if it had happened!
ANS - Thanks for posting that link. Very interesting! I will keep an eye on Sam and will take him back as soon as I think he needs more.
kristin5 - WELCOME BACK!:hugs: Is is so good to hear things are finally coming together for you and Ryley. What a trooper he is! Our wedding sounds similiar to yours.
salthemum2b - Make sure you post pictures of the finished product for us - I might plagiarise your work!
kimbaleo - I cannot believe you are still having so much trouble at night. I hope Lorraine has helped sort it all out permanently!
mummyG - Have you tried putting a cloth nappy over her tummy? This worked for Sam as it is heavy, making them feel more secure and you can keep it warm by pouring water over it.
ikis84 - I know what you mean about the swaddling. Sam keeps undoing it, then whinges because he wakes himself up with his hands. The legs don't matter but you really should design and market something like a straight jacket for babies!
Well; thanks so much for your support but enough talk of ice-cream! I am off to be a good girl and eat my stupid steamed fish and veg. Would love a Big Mac and Fries but caught sight of my tummy in the mirror and it is just not worth it.....
ikis84 - I agree with the wrap comment. They are way too small. Check out this site thou http://www.cradle2kindy.com.au/product-guide.html (http://www.cradle2kindy.com.au/product-guide.html) I bought a few wraps off it and they are great, they are massive and now I wrap Jacinta the new way (shown on the site) and she doesnt get out. It did take a few goes to master the new wrap style (if you decide to do it and cant PM me for some helpful hints). I love the stretch jersey wrap as you can ssssssstttttrrrrrrreeeeeettttttccccccccchhhhhhh it around them and they cant get out :thumbsup:
Flower159
18-01-2007, 17:47
Hello Everyone
Wow, you can't afford to miss a day in here - so much to read! well, I am major p**sed off. Not with Logan, he is being a very good boy, but with my SIL.
As you may remember I told my BIL that we weren't getting on at all well because I'd had enough of her being nasty to me -on my second day in the country she told me that she'd preferred it before we got here (how not to welcome someone who's never been here before and has decided to emigrate!) so I could go on for many pages the things that she has said and done to make me feel like she's just putting up with me, but you get the picture. So today was the first I've seen her since I spoke to BIL and she walked right past me and said "hello GIRLS" to the kids. I mean WTF??!??? She is that rude that she couldn't even be pleasent to me with just a civil "Hello" Oh I am well rid, but it's going to be hard with my DHs sister coming over to visit next month. Family gathering's will be so nice.:banghead: doesn't even cover it. Sorry for the moan (again!) but DH is at work and I can't really talk to the girls about it as that wouldn't be right .......but AAURGH. :banghead: :banghead: The thing is, when I spoke to BIL I was really nice about it and didn't go in to details, I just told him that I didn't think she liked us here. Oh how I wish I'd givin it to him now!!!! Some people.
Anyway, moving on ...
Kristen5 - Welcome back! Great news on the little man doing so well - He'll be running about before you know it and you'll forget all the worry that you've been through. Well done on being so strong.
Anita - thanks for the link on the wraps, I've been looking for bigger ones as Logan is also a wriggler and a big boy. I'll be getting some for sure.
Sare - congrats on your clever girl. You feel so proud when they finally manage it, don't you?!
Sal - it's great to hear that you're all excited again and didn't kill DF!! It's so close until the big day - I hope it's sunny for you ..... oh I forgot I'm not in Scotland anymore!! Of course it'll be a lovely day and you'll have the time of your life.
Kristen -hope your flight went OK and little Isabella is feeling better. The break will be lovely and I wish it was me.
Jen - poor you on that damn cat .... you'll get to the shops soon, just think of all the brownie points that you'll get for being a kind person and giving up your shopping money! That's great Sam's feeling better, lets you enjoy the smiles again!
Well, Logan was a wee angel last night, he slept from 10.30 through until 4 and I just put his dummy in and he slept until 6.30. First time ever and I am so chuffed. But tonight he'll probably be up 12 times knowing my luck!
Once again, sorry for the moan but I had to get it off my chest as I am still in dibelief - am I such a bad person??!?!? I think the answer's no, but there's obviously something I'm missing. Ah well. Time to make tea.
Take care all and big hugs to the babies. Marion.xx
Hi All
Not going to give any personals - Kayley has been a s@#t today and I am not really up to it. Just quickly though congrats on Kimba and Jeffy showing some improvement.
Well we started off OK today until around lunch time when I needed to get Kayley down so I could get ready for mthers group and have some lunch - she wouldnt go and I didnt have time to persist so no sleep. She was awake through the whole mothers group and when I got home I still couldnt get her to sleep and she was getting soooo cranky. She is finally asleep now - fell asleep on the boob and I have put her down in the pram.
I am actually a bit cranky from mothers group today - I thought they are supposed to be a social thing but the health nurse was quite dictating about how things should be done - I walked out feeling quite down and like a failure wheras yesterday I was happy with how it was all going.
Bascially not wrapping is a failure, the fact Kayley is sleeping in her pram not the bedroom is a failure, she is sleeping after a feed is a failure and I put her down asleep is another failure - oh well bugger it - she wasnt trying to get her asleep for an hour and a half before giving up (which is another failure).
Sorry to vent - I am sure I will be all happy and over it again tomorrow.
Kristen glad to here you are back and all is well. My niece was never supposed to get constipation or anything either but she has had it once recently (she will be 2 in March) so I think there is a good chance all will be fine with Ryley.
Oh well - I am going to go and eat something I probably shouldnt!
Hi all,
Beck - :hugs: I think we need a blowing raspberry smilie because that's what I would use for your health nurse. You do whatever works for you. As long as you and Kayley are happy and healthy that's all that matters. Just remember that YOU are Kayley's mum and YOU (not some stupid dictator of a MCHN) know what's best.
Kristin - Glad to see you back on here - we've missed you. I was rapt to get your e-mail saying how well Ryley's operation had gone. I had a laugh about Ryley's black and white mobile. Lara's already a baby magpie, she received her membership just before Christmas. Eloise was excited to get her Junior Magpie membership too. She is dying to go back to the footy. She reels off the names of a few players and is a bit upset that Taz isn't playing for them anymore. I even got DH to sign up as a member too (he's a carlton supporter - but reckons it cheaper than paying each week). I've missed talking footy with you :laughing:
Pam - I will definitely buy one of your sleeping bags. Lara has not slept much at all today. I find that Lara escapes from the muslin wrap easily and wakes herself up.
Marion - I think that you have a right to be peeved. Sometimes IL's are more trouble than they are worth. I hope it all settles before your SIL arrives. Well done to Logan for sleeping so well, I hope he does it again tonight for you.
Jen - What a pain about your cat. Animals cost so much to keep. Glad Sam has settled though. Hopefully you catch up on all the sleep that you have missed.
Georgia - I've found a warm face washer over Lara's belly settles her in the bath too. re weightloss - I'm doing sureslim. I did it before falling pg with Lara and lost 25kg in just over 4 months. I hope I can get it off this time.
Kimba - You've seriously got to try Cold Rock. I'm having major cravings for it after all these posts. Glad all went well with your mothercraft nurse today. Hopefully this is the start of things getting back on track for you.
Anita - sorry to hear that Jacinta has been having a bad time with her reflux. Good luck with the mothercraft nurse.
Di - Good luck with the house hunting. Has your dp's son moved in permanently? Oh and I agree with the car park for pg women too.
Lucy - Banana and picnic sounds divine (cam you tell I have a love of ice cream? Probably the reason I put on so much weight while I was pg)
Sal - Just over a week :smiliedance: How are you feeling? Is Nedd being a good little bubba for you?
Kristin - Have a great time in Tassie. Sorry to hear that Isabella's reflux has been playing up, hopefully it settles now you have upped her doseage.
I had 3 2 year olds over to play today - oh the mess. Eloise had a ball though. I think she is going to thrive when she starts 3yr old kinder next year, she just loves being around other kids. Lara hardly slept while they were here - she can't miss out on anything. Oh and I think I have worked out why Eloise has been such a pill over the last few weeks - she's cut 3 of her 2 yr old molars (and they had been through for a while).
Well I think that's enough from me. Passing lots of sleep vibes out to you all.
Hi all. No time for personals tonight.
Had a date day with Suemp and a few other bubhubbers on monday at my place which was great. Kane and Jake were so quiet you couldnt even tell they were there.
James is going great. Losts of sleeping and cheecky smiles and rolls.
Oh a name change is on the cards for me so if I go missing, I am still here...lol
Take care
Rian
Morning All
Hope anyone in an area that needs rain gets some. We had a bit last night and the town I came from had floods apparently. Waiting for it to be late enough to ring Mum. The roof at one of the supermarkets collapsed and all. But then they have had a week of 40+ weather so they need the relief.
Anyway... had one of those 'tingly' moments this morning. Adam was having breakky at 5.30am and sucking away happily when he started to laugh. Normally he smiles with the nipple in his mouth and that is sweet but this was a real chortle. Thought he was going to choke himself. Of course I started to laugh which seemed to impress him so he got the smiles up and that was the end of breakky. Makes you wonder what goes through their minds........I wish I could be so delieriously happy just from getting fed.
Gee we must get our minds corrupted as we get older. The simple things just aren't enough for most people. I am high on life being a Mum again but I have a mate who does nothing but complain about the kids wanting this or that....I dread the day my kids don't want/need me for whatever. Only about 6 months until my eldest can get her L's. I guess then she'll get her P's and I won't see her..anyway I know that's life. I intend to enjoy every moment of Adam's - Stuff going back to work I have decided. (lol haven't told DH that yet)
Well I feel I am in for a reflective day today. It's 2 yrs since my very much loved Grandpa died and 1 year since Adam was conceived so I am going to spend a bit of time working out how the world works :rolleyes:
Have a truely great day all
Good morning everyone!!!
Kristin5, so glad to see you back and that Ryley is doing fine. He is one little trooper that son of yours. Very proud of him!
Bec, well count me in as a bad mother as well.... Jordan is never wrapped, has the morning sleep in our bed, I put him down asleep and he sometime falls asleep after a feed. What are these nurses going on about!!! We did not give birth to Robots that have been programmed to always work the same way with a strict routine and things never go a little out of whack. I would have been upset as well. If I wrapped Jordan for a sleep he never would sleep, he hates being confined. Anyway the reason I stopped wrapping him was the wraps I had were too small and mr Houdini wouldget out of them anyway trying to get to sleep then once he was out he would flake. Why put hm though all that torture before he sleeps! There are some things I do now that if I had another I would not, but hey this is my first and I have learnt a lot!
Kimba, how did Jet sleep last night. Glad you got the mothercare nurse out. :fingerscrossed: a better night for you.
Jen, :hugs: to you as well. It seems things always happen together don't they.
Di, life is too short isn't it. Thank god for the rain. Some areas are so in need of it.
Rian, why the name change? Will we ever see you again..... :crying:
Marion, if I was you and she was coming over I would go out of the house while she is there and take the kids with you. Go to a park or shopping centre and have some you time. She is a cow for doing that. Does your hubby know about it?
Pam, yeah for Olivia rolling. I told Jordan yesterday that his friend has rolled - he just laughed at me!!! Soon she is will all over the place!!!
Well Jordan is getting himself into a good routine on most days. He wakes between 6 and 7 and I give him a feed, about an hour later he goes back for a sleep (in my bed :eek: ), wakes about 10:30-11 and is up until about 1 or 2 then down again until about 4 or 5 and goes to bed about 9pm. The hard part is the last part of the day as he starts to get really tired. I think I need to try to extend his lunchtime play time for a bit to wear him out a bit more and then his sleeps will get a bit later. I don't mind and quite happy with this. At least in the morning i have time to run around the house doing things before he wakes.
Not happy this morning, we got a phone call at 5am.... not happy jan, it was my DSD's mum calling from NZ. She always does it to us. She is too dumb to understand there is a time difference... grrr. All she will be wanting is money, as she sent a text to my DH yesterday asking for money for the school fees, uniform and all that.... Can I ask anyone that has a DH that pays child support, does the other half have the right to ask for more money for things. We often get the she had to go to the doctors and I can't afford to pay the bill sob stories, yet she has enough money to buy the other kids motor bikes (they live on a farm) and things like that. I think she uses us as she knows we have paid in the past.
Anyway that's my whinge - I could go on for hours about it. Well I am off to do the washing and straighten this house a bit.
Have a good day to you all!
Lucy
SalTheGal
19-01-2007, 08:15
Hi all,
Kimba great to hear things went well with the mothercraft nurse, Jet is sure to be on his way to being his old adorable self!
Jen- Way to go Sammy, glad to hear he is on the improve too. Makes life a lot easier hey?!? Things we do for our pets huh! We have literally spent thousands on operations and medications for my dog cause he has had chronic ear infections since he was a pup- sooooo frustrating, but what’s the alternative?
Marion- :hugs: Don’t in-laws suck?!? Why is it so hard for people to welcome new members into their families? We have major issews with my in-laws too, don’t even get me started on my MIL’s attitude towards our wedding, and my SIL was being an absolute pratt to me until only a few months ago (coinciding with Nedds birth funnily enough….) I think they are both jealous that I am taking DF “away” from them. Huh?!?!?
Beck- repeat after me “I am a good mother, I love my bub, she loves me back, I know my bubba better than anyone, I am a good mother, I love my bub, she loves me back, I know my bubba better than anyone, etc” You are doing a GREAT job- and don’t think otherwise, you know Kayley best remember and she seems like a happy well adjusted bub to me!:yelclap:
Sare- I can see you are gonna have your hands full when your gorgeous girls reach teenage years!!! Have fun with that! Hope you enjoy the tennis, I am jealous!
Di- saw the supermarket on the news!! That is so cute re Adam laughing. Nedd is always very focused when feeding- he goes all serious and ‘down to business’ like! Your post made me stop and think too, I think it is really healthy to stop from time to time and think bout all I have to appreciate…and life, family, the way the world revolves in general. DF is very used to me coming up with strange philosophical thoughts. In a couple of weeks it will be ten years since my Nanna died- the most beloved person in my life as a youngster….I miss her very much, all the more so since having Nedd.:crying:
I am very frustrated with Nedd at the moment, we are feeding 2.5 hrly during the day and 3-4 hrly at night…….and he hates having to entertain himself so by the end of the day I am just exhausted from being “happy” if that makes sense? I am very much a person who needs my down time. He is also being a rat bag when it comes to settling, though I think I have figured that he actually needs to be overtired to go down easily- if I put him down at the early signs he fights it and screams, but if I hold out as long as possible he is much easier to settle. So much for the “don’t let them get overtired” idea:detective:
Take care all.
Sal, I know exactly what you mean about the 'sick of being happy' thing... it is exaughsting entertaining Olivia all day. I make sure I leave her to her own devices at times during the day, under the play gym or bouncer, or tummy time on the floor. In that time, I don't do housework - I read, or come on bubhub, or do something else that I want to do. It helps :) Sometimes Olivia gets annoyed under the playgym, so then I turn on her flashing musical toy that is under there, and that keeps her occupied for another half and hour.
She also feeds 2.5 hourly during the day, but thankfully has an 8hr block at night.
:hugs:
Okay, my washing machine has started singing to mee - time to go hang the nappies on the line!
Hi guys!
Well, a slight improvement on the sleep. Had a wee battle to get Jet down for his last nap of the day yesterday which left us both a bit frazzled (the Cottage uses a modified controlled crying technique and it rips my heart out to hear him cry and not pick him up!). But then he fell asleep during his bedtime topup at 7.40pm and I put him to bed in his cot - yes we've finally made the transition to the cot at night LOL! (I kept him in our room purely for selfish purposes so I didn't have to walk so far when he was waking so many times a night). He woke at 11.40pm and I couldn't resettle him without a feed. Then he woke at 3.40 and 6.40 this morning. So still waking often, but at least it was better than waking 2 hourly. See, i'm an optimist LOL.
Had our usual drama trying to get him to go back down for his morning nap today though - he woke up happy at 6.40 then was getting sleepy at 8 so I wrapped him and put him down then spent the next hour trying to settle him to sleep, with him fighting it every time he dozed off. This used to be the easiest nap to put him down for, but not now - he fights it every day (no matter if I try to put him down earlier or leave him up a bit longer) and it really is a horrible start to our day :( I hope that a few days of using this cc technique will teach him to self settle again.
I also have to work on getting him to sleep longer in the day - he's usually only down for 40min several times a day and it's 'supposed' to be 2 hours! :eek: Whatever makes him content though is what I'm going to aim for.
Re: wraps. Don't spend a lot of money! go to Spotlight and buy a 1.5m length (1 to 1.5m wide also) of light stretchy cotton t-shirt material, per wrap. You don't even need to hem it as it won't really fray. I use these to wrap Jet, as it's light but stretchy so you can wrap them tight enough not to get out of, but they can still move their arms a bit (he likes his hands at his face) but not to pull their arms right out (like they do with muslin). I use the same wrapping technique that ANS uses - here: http://www.cradle2kindy.com.au/documents/wrappinginstructions.pdf
lucy - sorry your DSD's mum is being a pain I can imagine how cranky you must be about it. Jordan sounds like such a good little man!
di - doesn't it just make your heart swell with joy when they laugh? If I tickle Jet on his collarbone he really laughs (compared to his usual chuckle), and it just makes my day.
rian - why the name change? Witness Protection or something? LOL
sare - 3 x two year olds! You're a brave woman! Cold Rock sounds divine I'm going to have to give it a try one day. Hey Lucy Pam and Georgia maybe we can meet at Cold Rock LOL.
beck - don't let anyone make you feel like a failure!You're Kayley's mum, nobody else is, so you just do what works for you and her. Just because there are suggested things that work for some people doesn't mean that's what works for you! Remember "It's only a problem if it's a problem for ME." (Tell your MCHN that too). Mother's Group will get more social later I'm sure - ours doesn't meet at the clinic any more we just catch up for coffee or go to a park and gasbag. It will get better!
Marion - Sorry your SIL is such a ****. I hate my SIL's too if it's any consolation, LOL! I call them The Evil Stepsisters - hateful b1tches they are! Lucky they live overseas so I am well rid too.
ANS - agree on the jersey wraps I bought one then made a couple myself when I saw how well it worked. Hope Jacinta's reflux is doing better now.
Jen - love the photo it's great to put a face to a name! Glad the Zantac is helping Sam. Losec doesn't seem to have done much for Jet's sleep (yet!) but I suspect it's not the reflux that's the problem...Sorry to hear about the cat! You're having such bad luck with pets at the moment.
Georgia - have you tried taking Sophia into the shower instead? I suppose you've tried making the bath hotter/ colder/ deeper/ shallower. I add a bit of lavender oil to Jet's bath to help him relax (but he does love the water anyway).
Pam - sounds for Silence is great, we used to play it in our room to help Jet sleep and it made me very sleepy too!
OK better go my little monster is awake (see, only 40 minutes :banghead: what happened to his 1-2 hourly morning nap?!?!?). I know when I go in there his head will be tipped backwards watching the door waiting for me to come in. Cheeky Monkey!
Kimba, olivia is the same - she will only nap for about 45 mins. I just wait for when she is waking up, resettle (even if it means giving her boob) and she will go back down for another 30mins or so. It is a pain, but hopefully eventually she will learn to sleep longer (according to 'No Cry Sleep Solutions'), and it's better than having her crabby from being overtired. She will have about 3 naps of 1.5 hours length each day. The last one for the day is a total pain, but worth the effort of getting her to sleep!
Hi All
Thanks for the words of encouragement - am feeling a bit better today. I have always been a supporter of doing things your own way - taking advice from everywhere - as no baby is the same but for some reason the MHCN just got to me yesterday. I think because I have always been a bit of a perfectionist at work I dont like being told I am not doing things properly!
To add to the stupidity - I went to Target on Wednesday to buy a highchair from the sale. It was advertised in store for $299 and I got it for $219 so even though it was more than I was going to spend I was happy - then I was reading the catalogue last night and the sale actually didnt start until Thursday and it was advertised for $149!! On top of everything I was so angy at myself - was going to take it back and then buy another one but I had to get Kayley babysat to get it to start with so bugger it - just have to put up with my stupidity. It is a nice highchair though!
Kimba - Kayley only sleeps for 40min to 1 hour blocks usually during the day but I think this could be because she feeds 2.5 hourly. She does go longer overnight. I am also thinking about putting Kayley in her room at night times soon - I still have her bassinet in my room and was thinking of moving her at 3 months or when she starts sleeping through.
Sal - you must be getting excited for your wedding now - good luck and we all want to see photos!
Iksis - well done with the resettling - when Kayley is awake she usually refuses to go back to sleep - she is definately a stubborn little monkey. I think she is going to give me plenty of stress over the years!
Lucy - congrats on the routine. It is nice when things start to get a bit more predictable - even if they throw in a few horror days (mine was yesterday but hopefully effected by 12 week growth spurt).
Well it has been about 50 minutes since Kayley went to sleep and she has been doing some minor grizzling for the last 5 - hoping she will resettle herself but it is getting louder.....bugger - well I better go.
No time for any more personals - All the best to all of you.
kristin5
19-01-2007, 10:19
Kimba - glad you had some sleep relief from Jet. He'll get there. I don't think the hot weather helps (just when you think you've got it all started, we get a hot spell and the poor bubs really suffer).
Lucy - Jordan's routine sounds similar to Ryley's. It makes having dinner very difficult though doesn't it? His crying puts me off my food (though not enough to make me lose any weight!)
Which reminds me - what are you guys doing to lose the weight? (I've read that Sare is on Sureslim - what does that involve?) I had good intentions of doing pilates (from a video Mum gave me) - but that's just not happening. I find it hard to diet because I am an extremely fussy eater, plus Glenn doesn't need to lose weight at all and it's so much harder trying to be good by yourself. I was thinking of doing the milkshake thing, just replacing meals at breakfast and lunchtime and then eating normally (but trying to be good at dinnertime). I have tried milkshake replacements before and I don't think it really worked but I probably cheated. I wouldn't now, as I actually often forget or can't be bothered eating breakfast and/or lunch anyway, so a milkshake is quick and easy.
I don't know why it's so hard - I hardly eat anything anyway and whilst I have lost a bit of weight, it isn't enough. I fit into most of my old clothes but have the 'muffin-top' look happening - gross! I think I really need to do exercise but I am exercise-phobic (is there such a thing?) And it runs in my family to have little or no skin elasticity, so my belly is all saggy - both my mum and nan had the skin cut off (back then, it was covered under Medicare! Half their luck!) Maybe this is just it for me and I will always have a revolting saggy belly now (i never did before, though I have always been fairly solid I suppose, but more on my hips and thighs rather than tummy).
Sorry for the grumble...
Beck - I had a bad experience from HITH (Hospital in the home nurses), when I first got Ryley home and this woman came out to visit, all she could do was pick on me and say everything I was doing was wrong. She actually ended up apologising by the end of the session, but by then the damage was done and I asked for her to be replaced. And I hated the whole idea of being 'supervised' looking after my own child (though that is what it has ben like for much of Ryley's life so far - it is only now that I am finally getting some control back).
Sal - it's you who I am congratulating on wedding plans, huh?! Hope it all goes well. It'll be sure to be one of the best days of your life (even my first wedding day was good, even though the marriage was a disaster :laughing: )
Sare - as I think I told you, poor Ryley is being forced to be a Hawthorn supporter (so Glenn thinks...) and I have been in contact with them about a baby membership but they don't have one at the moment and are supposedly introducing one. If they don't get their act into gear, I guess Ryley may have to go over to the Pies...
Anyway, Glenn is calling me, looks like my downtime is over (actually, he wants me to go shopping while he looks after Ryley, so I guess I should pull my finger out).
Argh! just posted a huge post & lost it all. I'm so disappointed it will have to wait for tomorrow.
Flower159
19-01-2007, 11:44
Morning ladies, how are we all today?
We're all good in this house. Logan slept from 10 (his roll-over feed) until 5.30 put his dummy back in and he slept until 7.15 - how good is that? I feel great to be finally getting some sleep. Although DD2 was woken up by him at 5.30 and you'd think it was the end of the world! He's still nowhere near rolling over from his tummy -he much prefers to kick his legs up in the air behind him! He doesn't laugh much yet either, just the odd time when I'm least expecting it - but it is so cute when he does!! All in all I'm feeling a lot more settled with him, although as I'm typing this he's getting grumpy and coughing away (that's how he gets our attention)
Back again, just needed wrapped and put down.
Beck- glad you're feeling better today. As far as the MHCN goes, I just tell them what they want to hear. In Scotland they'd be forever going on about not giving toddlers bottles and I got such a lecture at one appointment that after that I just agreed with everything that she said and carried on with my own rules. They don't know you're baby as well as you and sometimes you just have to go on your gut instinct. Unless there's a problem you should do what feels comfortable for you and Kayley. Never mind about the highchair - you've still got your baby brain on! Lack of sleep and time to yourself stops you thinking straight!
Kimba - glad things seem a little better. The best thing I ever did was put the babies in their own room at an early age, I'd wake up with the slightest noise and I'm sure our moving about woke them up too. Might be worth a try and see how Jet goes, but I know what you mean about the walk - I feel as if I'm doing the 100m to get to Logans room at the other end of the house! And you are so lucky to have you SIL's oversees. I can't believe that I've moved all this way to get lumbered with this one!! Ah well.
Ikis and Sal - I'm there with the keeping them entertained as well. I try and give Logan as much time on his own as is possible but with the girls on holiday they sit and chat to him and when their not around he will lie and cough or whinge until I go and see him. There is only so long you can sit and smile and talk rubbish to them!
Sal - I think part of the problem with SIL was that DH and his brother are close and she felt we would interfere with their lives - but I didn't want it to be like that either. SIL makes all the decisions in their house and that's fine, but it was meaning that she was making all decisions regarding any get togethers and things and if I put in a suggestion she just dismissed it as if I hadn't spoken. It's a tough one, but I have a husband of my own and had no intention of taking hers away. But when BIL is at our house without her she's on the phone every half hour to see when he's coming home so I think she also felt threatened. I just hoped that after 18 months she would realise that she didn't have to feel like that. It all comes down to control and I wasn't having her controlling our lives as well as theirs. You're right, inlaws are just as joy.
I have also found that I'm having to cuddle Logan to sleep a lot more than before and I think it's all to do with his 12 week growth as he hasn't been the same since! I'm just going with whatever's working just now as I don't want him to be lying in his cot screaming and getting too tired. When he gets too tired I'm looking for a way out the door and there just isn't one!
Lucy - poor you with the ex wife, my SIL is bad, but at least she isn't an ex wife looking for money. I can't help you on that score, but I'm sympathising with you - there's nothing worse than being woken by the phone at 5 in the morning (you automatically think there's something wrong) and then to find out it's just the ex looking for money is even worse. Take a deep breath and count to ten! And yes, my DH knows all about the SIL. I haven't let him escape a single thing as it's his fault that I had to put up with her!! To be honest, she's rude to him too, so he didn't need much convincing when I told him what she was like. I actually wanted re-assurance that I wasn't imagining it and as soon as I spoke to him about it he could see what she was like to me, so that made me feel a bit better that it wasn't in my head. I'm just really sad as he is close to his brother and I know this is going to stop that relationship as she wont allow BIL anywhere near us now. I'm wondering should I have just kept quiet, but it was really getting me down and with everything else (leaving the UK, having a baby, nightmare visit from family, building a house, no friends in Oz - well I have one friend and you guys) it was just too much. I hoped we could have talked it through and seen if we could do anything about it (that's why I didn't tell BIL the extent of her nastiness), but really she didn't want us in her life and I've just given her the excuse that she needed to cut us out. In a few days I'll be over it, but it's just on my mind just now as I feel bad for DH. But! Moving on .... That's just terrible that you put Jordan to sleep on the bed - I'm gonna call the cops!!!! :eek: ;)
di_matt - hope you're mum's OK after all that rain, it looked awful. Good on you for not going back to work because you love spending time with Adam. You're right, we should all look at what we have from time to time and appreciate it instead of moaning. But sometimes with this lack of sleep all I can do is moan!! :o I promise I will try and do better!! When I'm feeling down a nice cuddle from my kids is such a god send, just knowing that they love you can make all the bad things go away. Just for a minute anyway!
Well, I must go and do some housework as nobody in this house has learned to tidy up after themselves yet, even after my mega strop earlier in the week. Ah give me patience!! Take care all and I hope you're all having a nice day. Marion.xx
Flower159
19-01-2007, 11:51
ps. Sorry for the monster post - I do have a lot to say, don't I??! :D
Just back from a visit to the ECHC. Was told that Jet getting 3-5 hours sleep in a row at this age is 'doing well' so you ladies with babies sleeping through must all have superbubs! :angel: LOL.
Was told not to worry about everything that's been going on with him including the feed refusal because it's all 'perfectly normal'. Which doesn't help with the stress and the sleep deprivation but there you go. Just have to keep praying that tonight will be the night :fingerscrossed:
Jet's weight is now in the 95th percentile, 7.3kg :eek: what a little porker! imagine a pig icon here> :@)
And height (63cm) is midway above the 50th, like it's always been. So clearly I don't need to stress if he has days where he isn't hungry :o
Pam - well done on the resettling. I try with Jet but usually by the time I hear him stir he's already wide eyed and grinning and ready to party, there's no way I can get him back to sleep. I think I might start hovering around when he's 'due' to wake, and beat him to it!
Beck - glad you're feeling a bit better today. I absolutely know the feeling of not liking being told you aren't doing things right because I'm a perfectionist and control freak too (can't you tell). I would be cranky about the highchair too! and I tell you for $70 I'd be dragging Jet with me to return it and buy it again at the sale price. But I'm a tightar$e LOL.
Kristin - so good to see you here regularly again. losing weight well hmmm all I'm doing about it right now is saying that I'm going to do it LOL. Maybe Sureslim or else I think I'm going to go back to WW - I lost 30+kg with it before (put it all back on again now though) - nothing like the public humiliation of being weighed to make me stay on track. As for the tummy, well I'm a mother now so if it stays saggy then so be it. Not like I'll be in bikinis any time soon. And at least I have an excuse, hehehe.
becbabe - darn bubhub does that to me all the time! I type it up in Notepad then paste it in
here.
marion - you posted while I was - LOL I thought I was the one with the longest posts seems you're giving me a run for your money. Jet coughs too! And grunts like a little pig :@)
I'm in heaven! Sam slept from 7:30 until 2:30 am, then ate and slept until 6:30 :yelclap: I won't count on it happening again but I'm feeling very rested today. The only thing is, he won't sleep in the pram when I go out. Went for coffee today and he shrieks when he's tired, so I had to sit with im in the pouch.
DH is going to Canada for a week with work (hard life!) and he has invited MIL to stay here with me, even though I said not to. He leaves the same day my dad and step-mother go home after staying a week and I was actually hoping for some time to myself but at least I like my MIL!
Kimbaleo - My doctor reckons Sam is 'pudgy' but I don't mind! They look wrong when they're skinny. I'm crossing my fingers that you get some sleep tonight :hugs: Sam only sleeps 40 minutes during the day as well.
salthemum2be - I feel like a circus clown sometimes and people look at me strangely when I sing "When you're happy and you know it..." while we're out and about. My last 'healthy' pet is a sheltie who has his own dermatologist because he has bad skin :D
Well; monster post and I'm off to eat some more blue vein cheese...mmmm.....
Flower159 - Don't worry, I don't have many 'real' friends either. They keep moving overseas on me! B@stards.....
kristin5 - I started a run/jog/walk distance challenge in the Health thread. I am doing Body For Life and am seeing some amazing results with the weight training and running. I use the Calorie King calorie counter program on my PC to track my food intake. Each morning I put my day's food in so I know I won't overeat. I love blue cheese, so for lunch I had salad with crumbled cheese on top. I compromise with myself everyday!
beck75 - That's $70! I would definitely take it back if you can manage it and buy yourself something nice with the extra money ;)
GeorgiaAnne
19-01-2007, 13:08
Hi Girls!
Well aren't we a talky bunch! What can I say that Marion hasn't already;) ?
Jen - Hurray for Sam's sleeping sounds like he's back to his good ol' self. Gorgeous new avatar, you both look lovely!!
Kimba - have you read about wake to sleep in the baby whisperer? Sounds like it might work with your happy waker! I know i'm lucky with Sophia's sleeping but I feel like I deserve it as those first 8 weeks were living hell! You're right about not worrying about Jet's weight he is doing great! Sophia is 63 cm and 6.2 kgs, so he has porked on way more than her, good boy.
Kristin5- I'm with you on the muffin tops, mine are foul and I am still getting around in some maternity gear so they don't pop over.
Sal - Sophia is the same with overtired thing. She mostly just goes straight to sleep like a light has been turned off but I have noticed she doesn't sleep as long at these times.:detective:
Anyhow, i'd better go and do some work instead of lurking around here! Sophia wouldn't go to sleep (naps) until 10:30 last night but still slept through, good girl. I felt like a horrible mummy though as she woke up with mozzie bites on her face x 2 and a scratch next to it?? I wouldn't have thought they could scratch an itch yet, anyone know? Contemplating Sure Slim or Lite'n'easy but dh is a :chef: so I LOVE food and don't think I could do it.
Hope you're all having a fab day
Flower159
19-01-2007, 13:42
Ladies, still no housework done because ...... SIL just popped round to sort things out. Oh my, it wasn't a nice chat but we've agreed to disagree and try and move on. Wasn't a great chat, more a shout at the start!, but I will say no more about her and thank you all very kindly for putting up with my winging.
Oh, Georigia - I'm absolutely distraught that you think I talk too much :gloomy: I'll try harder next time to keep it to 50 words. I'd never do well in those comps where they say describe this in 20 words or less ......:laughing:
I'm away to get over my tears and shock at having to confront someone (it's not in my nature and I was shaking the whole time she was here!) I could do with a stiff drink, if I liked Whisky I'd be hitting it now!! Ta-ra
ARRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I feel better now. I'm just sick of fighting unnecessary battles (eg today is real estate and faulty computer parts).
Abbey is fine, except with her newfound confidence in rolling from back to front, she just keeps doing it. She can even get her hands out now to support herself. Trouble is, she does it ALL THE TIME. Which means every single time she rolls, out comes milk. Which she then plays in. And rubs her face in it....
Her chiro this week had some good results. She currently has full range of movement and boy does her personality bloom when she does! She dances on counters, chats way to herself, giggles at her own conversation and wants to see and grab everything!
I turned her car seat arond yesterday. Normally she gets narky when the car stops at lights or in traffic, but she was too busy stickybeaking yesterday to complain. She let out some strange noises which I was a bit surprised by, but turned out she was just yelling at something. Maybe it was jeuvnile road rage.
Beck75 - you might not even have to lug the chair back in. My bro found an item he had bought a couple days too eary at ToysRUs and they did the adjustment from the receipt only. Maybe give them a call. $70 is $70!
Sal & Jeffy - being a mother gives you a right to make a total dill of yourself in public. Abbey likes a running commentary when shopping, and a description of everything I put in the trolley. "Mmmm arent these tomatoes shiny? Tomatoes are red. Can you say red? There is a red wiggle too, and mummy's shoes are red, and the wrapper on this chocolate is red too! No you can't have any..."
Even the mad muttering homeless people give me wide berth.
Hi all just a message from SUEMP- Kane has been admitted to John Hunter hospital, his breathing.grunting was getting worse and he kept going blue. They are keeping him in for tests and obs. Possibly a floppy trac or something.
Also DI_MATT. Sue says my James looks like you adam, he must be a cute little fella.
I am keeping in contact with sue by sms so any messages I will pass on :D
GeorgiaAnne
19-01-2007, 14:26
Hi,
Marion, I don't think you talk too much at all, I love it! I wish I could hear your Scottish accent, it is my favourite!:thumbsup:
I hope Kane is OK, please send Sue our best wishes
SalTheGal
19-01-2007, 15:18
Marion I agree with mummyg- your posts aren't too long (I reckon I probably give you a run for your money anyway!!), and I try to read them in my head in what I presume they would sound like (if that made any sense?!?!), I love a scottish accent too. Cept I am probably doing it way wrong- but sounds good in my head!!! Specially the bit next to your avatar- "my wee boy" ach, so scottish :D
Poor Sue, hope Kane is ok. Just when ryley is on the mend last thing we need is another oct bub in hospy.
Hey Kimba- Nedd woke up at EXACTLY the same times last night, wierd!! Was the settling technique that you learnt the double pat (one hand on bub the other patting) for fifteen mins whilst on their side? Thats the one I do for Nedd and it was working a treat till a few days ago- but i got sternly told by DF last night that I have been getting too soft on him and picking him up too soon so thats why he is cranky again:rolleyes: - yes Boss!!
M-Jelly you have to promise to post every day- I so look forward to reading your goings on, you crack me up every time, thanks for brightening my days with your humour!
Ok- who's bubs wake up happy? Nedd wakes up pretty much screaming every time......even if he is not hungry, he just doesn't enjoy waking up it would seem, I would love to walk in to a smiling bub!
Enough from me, take care everyone!:wizard:
maybe1more
19-01-2007, 15:44
Hi ladies i hope you are all well and getting some much needed sleep. Sorry i cant do personals, i have read them but time is against be some ill make up for it later.
Just wondering how the mothers are going that have two at home?? Do you find it hard to divide your time up between them? Im finding it a liitle tricky atm as my ds who is 3 1/2 what my attention always when im feeding Caleb or when ive finished feeding i got washing to do then get dinner organise. I feel really guilty that im not spending enought time with my ds, as he was born in the second half of the year he doesnt go into kindy untill next year so i was thinking of putting him into 3 year old kindy so at least him doing things and kindy instead of getting brain rot at home :yes:
I got some fenugreek tablets today as someone on here said they help produce more milk, so im going to give them at try.
Sleep to all:thumbsup:
maybe1more
19-01-2007, 15:48
OMG!!! Sal i get realised your wedding is only 7 days away.!!! I hope everything is going to plan so far:yes: Your going to by a mrs very soon, that fantastic, cant wait to see the pic`s. Sal and LloydValentine
Back again...have nothing better to do today so I'll make the most of it until you all get sick of me...
Rian - please pass on my best to Sue and Kane :hugs: I hope the little tacker is OK. poor Sue must be beside herself I know it's been hard for her with Jake's hypotonia and now this.
georgia - I'm so sorry I forgot to say happybirthday for Sophia's 3 month birthday on Monday! Sounds like she's going great guns. Hey maybe you can get your DH to put together some yummy but low fat and low GI recipes to help you with the weight...? Haven't read the baby whisperer I might have to give it a squiz.
m_jelly - Abbey sounds like a cheeky monkey! Wonder where she gets that from :laughing:
marion - well done on handling the confrontation with SIL, it's always horrible at the time but I bet you feel better now to have gotten some things said?
jen - wow well done on the sleep so now Jet is the only one not sleeping? ah great. Thanks for the crossed fingers for sleep tonight - and I agree that they do look cute when they're a bit chubby (my doc said Jet was chubby too but said it in a good way - like 'look at him he's clearly thriving now take him away from here you silly woman' LOL)
Sal - LOL I imagine people talking too when I read their posts. I imagine what they look like as well. Maybe we should have a challenge to all put up an avatar with our own picture just for a day so that we know who looks like what.
Yes the 'double pat' was one technique (also rocking/ rolling him on his side) and it was the one that worked best on him! Not having as much success today though, it isn't working as well as it did yesterday! :banghead: but it is bloody hot so that doesn't help. Today I need to pick him up to calm him or give him a little feed then try again - BUT at least he is going to sleep eventually without needing to be rocked to sleep in my arms, and I've also been able to resettle him back to sleep for another hour when he woke grumpy, so that's a success I reckon.
re: bubs waking happy - most of the time Jet does, which is why it's hard to resettle him to sleep longer because he's smiling and wanting attention and calling out for us. Sometimes he does wake grumpy though which is a pain, but now I know it just means he needs more sleep not that he needs to get up!
The nurse yesterday said to always go by the idea that 'happy babies can stay up, grumpy babies need to sleep' - use it either on waking (if they're grumpy, re-settle them) or when they've been up for a while (if they're happy let them stay up longer, even if it's past their 'due' time for a nap). Much better than watching the clock and stressing 'oh he should have slept longer' or 'oh he should be asleep by now'.
PS jenny the fenugreek capsules do work for me! but I need to start on the maximum dose (2 capsules 3 times a day) until my supply improves then cut back gradually until I notice a supply drop again and that's how I know what dosage to stay on to 'maintain'.
Keep in mind that they will make you smell like maple syrup or curry! and it could put bub off a little for a day or so if you smell different.
there's some great information about it here:
http://www.kellymom.com/herbal/milksupply/fenugreek.html
GeorgiaAnne
19-01-2007, 16:53
mmm yummy maple syrup!
re: Baby whisperer. I've got Secrets of the Baby whisperer and Baby whisperer solves all your problems. The latter is probably better as it is more appropriate age-wise and also has lot's of stuff about toddlers which I don't want to read.
I agree about having photos on avatars, people never look the way you expect them to eg: Jen, I was sure you were a brunette...
Sal - Sophia OCCASIONALLY wakes up happy
had the day from hell yesterday.. we had to see danas doctor about her hernia then on the way to get some pics taken i wrote the car off... both kids in it. we are all fine, even though 4yo's seatbelt ripped with the impact. scariest moments of my life, espacialy when dana stopped crying with the crash ( she had been crying before it) but 3 secconds later she started again.
plus side dana slept 7pm to 120am with one feed..
Afternoon All
Well officially (by dates) my little darling is 3 months today :yelclap:
Rian: Sue said the same to me about your little fella so they must both be good looking, strapping young chaps Valentine .
Sue also sent me a message just before to say Kane has had X-rays done and she is waiting on paed for his opinion...as they say it never rains.....
Well my little munchkin has been a little strange today - not sure if it's because its cooler or what. He actually slept for 40 mins this morning and and hour this arvo, but only while I was cuddling him as he is in a real "huggy monkey" mood. Normally the most he has is 15 mins at a time. But boy has he eaten a loooooooot. He has almost been permanently attached to my boob since he got up at 6. I actually just gave him his night bottle now instead of 6pm. Normally he leaves a bit but not today...... He is on his playmat and all I can hear is the rattly
toy being shaken around. So for now he is happy by himself.
It will be interesting when the older kids go back to school to see how he goes. He'll only have me foe entertainment :( poor little bugger. He looks at me now as if to say "How many times can a kid look for a green sheep?" It's a great Mem Fox book that I picked up. But he made the mistake of laughing the first time we read it lol now we read it aaaaaaaaalllllllllllll the time..
ANyway all...hope you've had a great day and it is cooler for everyone wherever you are. Marion where are you?
Take care and I'll also keep you updated on Sue & Kane as I hear:fingerscrossed:
OMG Nitty, it was bad enough to rip a seatbelt? You are so lucky nobody was hurt! Hope you were at least insured and get a nice payout cheque to replace the car. Get a tank - that way you'll always come out on top. Not sure about child restraint anchor points tho, might have to check with the tank company.
Sorry, I'm having a bit of trouble with Abbey's car seat and I have anchor points running through my head. I turned her around because the car seat said I must use the newborn insert while reversed, but she's too fat for it. So around she went, and out it went. She's loving it, but I just discovered the seat isnt secure and I cant think how to make it so. Its just a cr&p seat (Mothers choice Nomad, bad reviews all over). I'm going to reverse it again and chuck the insert until i can get to a fitting station. They might be able to bodgy another anchor to hold the first anchor tight. Sounds like a quality seat doesnt it?
SalTheGal
19-01-2007, 17:40
Thanks for reminding me Di-
Nedd is three months too,
happybirthday Adam and Nedd!!
Lucky cause we are going to put his foot and hand print in clay at three months- glad you reminded me!
Nitty- poor you, what a fright you must have gotten, :hugs: :hugs: atleast everyone is ok.
Hey Sal , 1 Week To Go :d
Oh wow Nitty what a scare you must have had!!! You poor thing, at least everyone is OK. Someone is looking out for you up there!
Hey sal good luck with putting Nedd's hand and foot into clay, clay's a good idea (harder to smudge if he wriggles). We've been trying to get paint hand and footprints of Jet since birth, but he can't sit still, moves and wrecks it EVERY TIME. I also have a plaster cast set that I want to do a hand and foot print with, but haven't wanted to waste it yet in case Mr Wriggle Bum wrecks it IYKWIM. I think we might try it when he's asleep. Otherwise I might just stick his hand and foot (and hey, maybe his butt :laughing:) on our scanner and photocopy them LOL.
M_jelly and Di Matt love the new avatars. It's great to see what people look like, and Adam has got the cutest chubba cheeks! Jet is wanting lots of cuddles too ATM I wonder if it's a 3 month thing.
I think our carseat is a cr@p Mother's Choice one too, we're using a hire capsule at the moment though (which Jet is nearly grown out of).
Happy 3 month birthdays to Adam and Nedd! can you believe how old they are already. Not so long ago we were all :barf: with morning sickness. I had a little tear when we moved Jet into his cot at night, he's growing up so fast! :laughing:
So I wonder who will be first to get :bfp: again...???
KIMBA- I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A :bfp: BUT I THINIK I MAY HAVE A TOUCH OF DEPRESSION ATM. I LOVED BEING PREGNANT EVAN THOUGH I COMPLAINED ALOT. JAMES HAS BEEN IN HIS COT FROM 2 WEEKS BUT I STILL SOB WHEN HE GOES IN THERE AND ALSO WHEN HE NUSSLES AT MY BREAST LOOKING FOR FOOD.. BOO HOO
SAL- I MUST DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR JAMES. BUT YES HE IS WIGGLE WORM AND I WOULD END UP WITH A FOOT AND A HALF. I WOULD LOVE A BUM PRINT. IT IS SO SQUISHY AND CUTE.
M_JELLY- I THINK I HAVE A DODGY CAR SEAT TOO. IT EITHER LAYS BACK TOO FAR OR SITS FORWARD TO FAR.
DI_MATT- A GREEN SHEEP? I MUST GET THAT BOOK. JAMES IS SICK OF BEING TOLD HE IS A CHEEKY BOY TO ENTERTAIN ME. HE LOOKS AT ME WEIRD THESE DAYS.
NITTY- OH I HOPE UR OK. IT MUST HAVE SCARED THE **** OUT OF YOU. BIG HUGS FOR YOU ALL.
KIMBA- AND EVERYONE ELSE. WILL PASS ON YOUR MESSAGES. HOPEFULLY WILL BE ABLE TO GO TO NEWCASTLE TO CHECK ON OUR MUM AND BUB. HEVAN FORBID ANYTHING BE WRONG. I AM ALSO GLAD TO HEAR RILEY IS HOME AND WELL.
OK I BETTER RUN. WILL PROB TALK TO SUE TONIGHT SO WILL LET YOU KNOW.
TAKE CARE
Hi all,
What a busy day on here...
Rian & Di - pass on my thoughts to Sue. I hope they get some good nes quickly.
Di - I love that photo of Adam. I love it when Lara is cuddly and all she wants is her mummy (that statement may come and bite me on the butt in a few months)
Nitty - That's terrible. I'm glad you are all ok though. How did you go at the drs? Is Dana doing ok?
Jenny - I'm finding that things are finally starting to settle down at home now and Eloise has adjusted to the fact that Lara's here for good. At this stage I have found that I can't divide my time equally between the 2 because Lara is totally dependent on me. However, I am trying to make the time that I do spend with Eloise fun and make sure it is quality time. We did painting for the first time since Lara was born on Wed and she had a ball. We made muffins yesterday. She's pretty good when I'm feeding, although I often have a dvd ready just in case. I always try and have snacks and a drink ready for her.
m_jelly - How are you going with the real estate agent? Any luck on getting the mould cleaned? I'd love to go shopping with you ... you'd keep my 2 entertained too :laughing:
Lucy - Sorry I can't help you with your question about child support, but it definitely sounds like she might be taking advantage of you.
Marion - Good for you for facing up to your SIL. I wish I had that courage, I just expect dh to stand up for me with his family it just never happens. A number of times something that they have said or done has brought me to tears...on Christmas they had 2 tables for Christmas dinner, 1 in the dining room and 1 in the kitchen. They decided that they'd sit with Eloise and dh at the kitchen table and I was sent to the dining room ... separated from my family at Christmas, I was fuming. Of course dh said NOTHING!
Kristin - That is terrible about Ryley being forced to be a Hawks supporter - lol. My theory is that I had to go through pg and labour, so I should get the choice as to what footy team they will follow :laughing: . I coerced (sp?) so many of the kids that I taught into barracking for the Pies, I don't want my kids to be corrupted at school, so I am getting to them early. Oh... and yep I saw the picture of Nathan and Jet in the paper... there's no mistaking him as a Buckley.
Sorry...gotta go...Lara's wanting a feed. Just a quick question ... have your babies eyes changed colour? I think Lara's going to have green eyes, but they seem to look different from day to day.
SalTheGal
19-01-2007, 22:08
Sare- I think Nedd will have green eyes too. I am so disappointed, DF has the most beautiful brown eyes and all I wanted was for Nedd to have them too........mine are hazelly/greeny/browny splotchy no coloury ones and the MCHN thinks he will have my colourings
Sare and Kristin both DF and I are Carlton supporters so Nedd doesn't get a choice:laughing: . Sare maybe we should hook up one day for a carlton/collingwood match so we can join your DH and gang up on you!!!!
SalTheGal
20-01-2007, 06:48
Kimba you are definitely not the only one with sleep issues.
After going down at 8.30 Nedd woke at 11.30, 2.30, 5.00, 6.00 up for the day. I just put him back down now.
NOT HAPPY:banghead: :banghead:
It is so frustrating when only a couple of weeks ago he was going from 9.30 till 4.30,then down again till 7.30.
I am seriously considering switching to formula- I have to go back to work as of the 12th feb- there is no way I can cope with this and working too.
On a plus note it has rained steadily here all night- awesome. I just went outside to drink my coffee on the verandah and take in the "rain" smell- my favourite smell.
Happy day everyone, I am off back to bed to try and get some more shut eye.
Good morning all.
Sam slept from 6 pm through to 2:30 am and then went down after a feed until 6 am. He is asleep again now. Looks like we have him sorted, thank goodness! I didn't sleep well last night because our cat came home from having his cheek operated on and he has a bucket on his head and a drain in his shaved face! Might cahnge my avatr pic to on eof the cat for the day! He was so dopey that he was running into the walls and meowing all night. Now the little bugger has escaped and we can't find him (sigh). I was going to sleep in but DH couldn't settle Sam as usual (another sigh). I asked if he had given Sam the Zantac and he said he didn't know how much to give. It's written on the bottle! :banghead:
Yes, I am blonde German girl and I'll bet you all thought I was a brunette because I sound so smart?! (Yeah, right!)
'happy babies can stay up, grumpy babies need to sleep' Thanks for that one, Kimba! It has been used already and is so simple, I feel stupid!
nitty - I am so sorry to hear about your accident :hugs: I had two while I was pregnant and was so scared of driving with Sam in the car after I had him. I hope you are all feeling okay and not too sore.
di_matt - I love Mem Fox and plan to buy all her books for Sam. Also Animalia and all the traditional kid's books.
m_jelly - I bought a Safe N Sound Guardian for $300 from Target on sale. ALmost couldn't fit the thing in our car and we have an X-Trail! We can't put the passenger seat back it is so huge. Can't wait to be able to turn it around.
salthemum2be - DH's birthday is on Australia Day and his father used to say the fireworks were for him. He was very upset when he figured out it wasn't true! I'll be thinking of you while I am watching DH's fireworks. Sorry you had a bad night. Re: the formula - Had you thought of just feeding in the mornings and last feed of the night? A midwife suggested that to me if I didn't want to quit when I went back to work but I am sure I would have switched to formula then anyway. It's not so bad!
kimbaleo - Never agin am I getting pregnant! DH and I thought we only wanted one but have decided if we change our minds, we will have to adopt from overseas. Too many health problems to go through that again!
rian - You have been through such a lot these last few months and they say moving is very stressful without a new baby! Make sure you take care of yourself and let someone know if it gets too much :hugs:
Sare - Sam's eyes are brown one day, blue the next. I thought they would be brown but think they might stay blue/brown forever. Sam looks just like DH, so it would be nice to have some blue stay in there for me!
THINKING OF YOU SUE & KANE :kiss:
Morning all, well no real surprises Jet woke at 10.40 (earliest yet!) 2, 4.30 and 5.30 :banghead: Brought him to bed with us at 5.30 and he had a couple of little feeds while we all slept in till about 8. I am really hating these 'before midnight' feeds (which he has never done till this week) because it breaks up the only decent block of sleep I have a chance of getting - I've been going to bed at 8.30 to try and get as much unbroken sleep as possible (the first block was usually the longest). Maybe I should stay up till 11 and give him a dreamfeed before then :confused: but considering he'll wake again at 2 and 4 anyway and then is usually up and raring to go by 6 or 7, that wouldn't work either...he needs so much of my energy during the day that I need as much sleep as possible.
So anyway on the subject of sleep, 2 days into it and apparently I'm too soft to handle the Cottage's modified cc settling to sleep methods - if they don't work within 10min I can't handle Jet getting so distressed (he really gets worked up! sweating, panting, screaming), I have to pick him up and cuddle him, to calm us both. I'm torn between feeling that it's cruel to make him so distressed at naptime (if he's going to get so traumatised about going to bed then surely it's not worth it?) and knowing that he needs to re-learn to settle himself, like he used to. I guess I have to try and stick with it, but I know his and my limits, and if I do have to pick him up earlier than recommended then so be it.
Sal - I wish it would rain here it's so hot! you poor thing on the sleep issue - I can empathise and IKWYM about not coping with work on no sleep - I've extended my maternity leave till 2 April so :fingerscrossed: he is sleeping better by then!! I don't know if formula would help or not, even though he doesn't need it anymore I still top Jet up with a bottle of ABM before bed, purely to try to get him to sleep better, but he'll only drink 90ml max and it makes NO difference anyway :no: Very tempted to try farex in his bedtime bottle, but I think I'll wait till he's 4 months at least.
Jen - actually I imagined you blonde! And nothing to do with intelligence either LOL I think I just associate blonde with the name Jen. Adopting from overseas is a long painful process I hear - good luck if you do go that way. Would love to see a photo of the manky cat!
Sare - Jet's eyes have been surprisingly blue till now (we thought he'd be born with dark brown eyes like his Indonesian father) but they're going a bit greeny in the middle. I wonder if they'll end up hazel-green like mine or dark brown like his Dad's. DH and I both hope for green as that would look gorgeous with Jet's 'caramel' Eurasian skin and features.
Rian - BIG HUGS darling - you know to just pick up the phone if you need a chat, I'm always here for you. Thanks for keeping us updated on Sue and Kane - if you get a chance please let us know we are thinking of them and hoping that all is OK.
OK might have a little lie down while Mr 'Sleepless in Marrickville' is still napping. Of course as soon as I drift off he'll wake LOL.
Morning All,
Hope everyone having trouble managed some sleep last night.
Kane is leaving hospital today and heading home. Will let you know more when I know.
I think Jett & Nedd & Adam are just going to be cuddly 'mummies boys' :laughing: . My 11 year old used to be until he turned 8 now he is a monster.:confused:
Nitty - Hope all is ok. I always stress about seat belts too. Mine is only a new car but I still stress.
I bought an expensive bl***y car seat that turns around. It's turn-a-tot but because we have leather seats it never seems "tight" enough. I had it fitted properly but it still moves. Waste of money, should've just bought a cheap n nasty :rolleyes:
One of the girls I know has 5 kids (the youngest is 15 weeks) and she :bfp: . She may be as far as 10 weeks along....... I am contemplating when Adam is 1 having a playmate as there is such an age gap with my other kids but non yet......not on your nelly.
Not sure on eye colour. They started out grey/green like most babies but they seem to be more green than anything. I have hazel & DH has green so I guess they aren't likely to be any other colour ha ha
Well seeing as it is nearlt lunchtime I better go and have a shower lol. Been having a lazy morning
AAArgh - not sure who made the comment earlier but someone has also broken my baby - slept OK at night but it is a real figth to get her to sleep at the moment. I have to get her asleep in my arms then put her down and she keeps waking and screaming until about hte 5th time - and I have to bounce on the ball to get her off - it is killing my back!
Kimba - I cant do the controlled crying thing either - stresses me out too much. I think this may be what 'broke' Kayley anyway. Wasnt until the other day when I tried to leave her down rather than picking her up in her bassinet - she cried until she threw up - now she seems to hate going down completely except in the middle of the night. God I was so happy a week ago!
Well for my highchair I decided I would take it back but it seems DH threw out the bag with the receipt (cant get angry as he was cleaning up) so I guess I have to live with it. Not the top of my mind now I am just trying to work out how to get the little bugger to go to sleep again without taking 3/4 an hour!
Well Kayley has blue eyes still - hopefully they will stay that way. Mine are hazel and I would love hers to stay blue.
I have a babylove capsule at the moment and have a safe n sound guardian convertible to use soon.
I gotta go - 45 mins is up.
Flower159
20-01-2007, 13:29
Good morning all (afternoon to you lot!)
Well, my head is still sore after the bust up yesterday. I keep going over what I should have said and thinking that I should have stood up to her more. Will it ever go away??! DH is angry and has said that if she can be that rude to me once she can do it again and it just shows the type of person she is. Oh what to do, I can't stop thinking about it!! I'm at a loss, the person that SIL has made me out to be is just not the type of person that I am and I'm wondering if she's on another planet? Right, Enough!
Logan slept 10.30 until 5.30, so I can't complain about that. I was feeling really down there and was terrified about PND but since I've had three decent nights sleep, what a diffirence it has made. And talking to you guys is great as I don't feel quite so all alone. You're the best:hugs:
Logan has really dark blue eyes and they've been like that since birth, haven't changed a bit. DH and I both have blue eyes and so do the girls so I guess he was always going to have blue. He has my shape of eyes though, which is the only bit of me that's in him!! DH always says that my eyes go like half moons when I smile (because of my chubba cheeks!) and Logan's do too. He's down to 8 kilos now, so he's lost 200g, I'm not too worried, but I will definately be keeping a close eye on him, and that's him on the Farex at night too. Think I might have to start him on a fry up!!
di-matt - your picture is gorgeous, what a cutie Adam is. I'm with you on Logan needing a play mate. I've still to decide when to TTC but it wont be any time too soon!! Think I might wait until beginning of next year before starting as hopefully my life will be plain sailing by then! :fingerscrossed: I'm in Perth, so I might as well be the other side of the world from you lot!! To think that we could've went anywhere is Oz and we picked here to be near BIL!!! I could've been over East and making friends with you lot of lovely people!
Kimba - poor you on Neds sleeping. Like I said, I started Logan on the Farex and it didn't make the slightest bit of diffirence to his sleeping until the last couple of nights. I couldn't leave Logan to scream like that either, they just get so upset and it's horrible to hear. I know that the MHCN would give me in to trouble, but when Logan wasn't sleeping properly he loved sleeping on the chair where his dad sits. I don't know if it was the smell, but he'd sleep for 3/4 hours there and only 40 mins elsewhere. It was a god send and maybe worth a try. I would sit in the same room and watch TV or have a nap myself on the couch (or should I say lounge??!) He's back to napping in his cot now, but for that week it's what I had to do.
Jen - congrats on the clever sleepy baby! And you're poor cat, althought it might have had some consideration and realised that you wanted to sleep!!
Sal - I really feel for you on the feeding thing. I'm still not sure if Logan's getting enough, but he's not feeding so much so I have to guess he is. I was thinking about taking him off the breast and for some reason I found it really upsetting to think about it. Don't know why, but that's what was making me feel quite depressed. It's a toughie because you're going back to work. I went back to work with the girls and stopped breast feeding before I went back as I knew I'd be too tired to cope. But please don't feel bad about formula as you've done a good stint on the breast and sometimes you just have to do what's best for you and the baby. My DH had said to me that if I'm tired and depressed it's not helping me or the baby and it's best just to go on to the formula - it made sense and cleared my head a bit. I love the smell of rain as well - I never knew it had a smell until I came to Oz!!
Sue - I hope little Kane is doing well - be sure to keep us updated.
Nitty - I hope you're OK. What a fright you must have had. Glad everyone's OK and I hope you're not too sore today.
Rian - I'm just like you, quite fancy being preggers again, but I moaned that much that I figure I'd best wait the year to make sure that I really want to go for it!! Wouldn't want to end up with four and realise that three was enough!! Keep your chin up and talk lots, that the best advice I was given when I was feeling down.
Sare - what a horrible way to spend Christamas day. I sometimes wish we could just stay in a wee bubble and not have to put up with other peoples $$$$!! Did you have words with DH afterwards? I think this is easier because it's not my DHs sister, it's his in-law as well so he's less forgiving! although I did have problems with DHs sister we now get on great. Inlaws are just the pits! You make me laugh when you're talking about footy - I just don't get it!! You have all diffirent leagues and I'm lost! Hubby and I are soccer fans (shiver when I have to use that Soccer word!) and for Aussie rules I only watch the last quarter as it's the only one that counts!! Maybe when this season starts I'll be more interested and understand more ..... or maybe I'll just stick to watching Celtic online!!! Who know ....
Wee man has woke up (do I sound Scottish when I write??! - I'll need to start using words like jobby and minging!!) so I'll away and feed him. Take care all and have a lovely weekend. Big :hugs: Marion.xx
I did it again, the post is huge!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:
GeorgiaAnne
20-01-2007, 13:30
Hello my pretties -
Nitty - you poor love, that must have given you quite a fright. Glad that all is well (apart from your car)
Beck - Sorry that Kayley is being difficult for you but at least she is good at night. Sophia is the same and I just think I can handle whatever the day throws at me with a good sleep under my belt.
Di - I often have the same thing in the morning, it just goes so quickly then suddenly it's 12.00! Lucky you with mummies boys, i think i'm going to have a daddies girl on my hands, she is besotted with my dhValentine
Kimba- maybe it is time for some solids? Does he eat much when he wakes at 2 & 4? Do you think it's food or habit related? I'm with you on the cc, i'm too much of a softie, although it is easier now to walk away when she is crying and put the washing out etc.
Jen - lol about your cat, it is so funny when they have those plastic things around their necks.:yelclap: for Sam settling down.
Sal - you poor love with the sleep, or lack thereof, heres hoping he goes back to normal. I'm with you on the rain smell, I love it and the sound on a tin roof. When we were away recently we stayed in a little bungalow right on the beach with sound of the ocean and a thunderstorm I was in heaven...
Sare - sounds like you are so organised and good at keeping both girls happy. We will all be learning from you soon re 2 kids!!:fingerscrossed: I think Sophia's eyes are brown now but both mine and dh are brown so I don't think she has any other options.
Rian - :hugs: to you, remember that were all here for you if there is anything we can do.
My husband wants to ttc now so maybe no more condoms, I would like to get pg around March so we'll see.
Has anyone else noticed that the girls seem to be sleeping better at night than the boys? Is that common or just coincidence?
I have Sophia in the prettiest little pink and white dress today she looks so cute. I never thought I would be a frilly mama as I was a bit of a tomboy with two older brothers. My mum thinks it's hilarious as she desperately wanted me to wear all the pretty clothes but I would always grizzle and take them off.
Going down to swim some laps now
bbl
GeorgiaAnne
20-01-2007, 13:38
:wave: Marion, you must have been posting at the same time as me, I was wondering where you were. See, i'm learning from you with the big post! I'm so sorry your sil is such a dog, have you met people in WA? What i'm saying is, maybe you need to see less of them to lessen the impact?
What is a jobby????
Hi guys, just a little update. were all fine and ive even driven again. hubby went out and got me a car to run about in until we get a new one although driving is scary and i havent driven with the kids yet. They are waiting 3 months before they operate on dana's hernia, hoping that it will have reduced in size and may not even need it ( fingers crossed)
Well I have learned today that Jet will now go down easier if I put him on his side - who knew!!! I just roll him over to his back when he goes into deep sleep. I wonder if that's the secret. Or if it's just what works today :laughing: I have decided that CC is definitely not for me (I never really thought it would be, but was desperate for SOMETHING to help). I will take what I can from what the Cottage nurse showed me and see how we go.
Re: how much he eats in the wee hours, if I have plenty of milk he will drink it all, so it really depends what my supply is doing. Of course the more he wakes the less I have - less sleep and less time to 'recharge' between feeds makes me have less milk.
I asked the mothercraft and EC nurse if it might be time for solids and they said no, too early yet, and it's more likely to be comfort that he's waking for (or habit, since he's been doing it for weeks now), rather than hunger. Maybe it's just a combination of 3-month brain meltdown from being so much more alert and doing new things + hot weather + a week or two of low milk supply + being put into his cot at night now. When I look at all that I don't really blame him for wanting a little feed and snuggle in the middle of the night!
Sometimes I feel like kicking DH out onto the couch so I can have the bed to try co-sleeping with Jet. I like him better than DH anyway :laughing:
I'd also like to be pregnant again, but I think I want to wait till the end of the year before TTC so that Jet will be about 2 when #2 is born, also gives us a while to save $ for my next lot of maternity leave.
LMAO Georgia 'what is a jobby', well in my house growing up, it was our kiddie term for a poo! likewise 'poggy' for 'booger' (sounds cuter, no?). I think Mum got it from her UK father. Not sure if Scots use it for the same though - Marion?
Georgia - TTC already, go you! thunderstorm on a tin roof by the ocean is my idea of heaven too. That's so cute that you've got Miss Sophia dressed like a real girly girl! I love dressing Jet up like a little man (love Bonds stuff) instead of in the real 'baby-baby' clothes. Dont' know about girls sleeping better than boys, but all the boys in my Mum's group are outgrowing the girls at a fast pace and yeah it seems to be the boys with sleep dramas - so it could be related?
Marion - a lot of the September mums are over in Perth, maybe you could drop in there and say hi, they're a friendly bunch - even chattier than us though :ecomcity: if that's possible! The closest I felt to PND was when I was having so many issues with breastfeeding and low supply in the early days, it's definitely an emotional and vulnerable issue.
Beck - sorry that Kayley is having daytime sleep dramas I can empathise with you. It's harder now that they're getting heavy to rock them to sleep, isn't it! Jet is doing my back in. What a bummer about the receipt for the highchair! you could have used that money to go get a massage or something.
OK better go can you tell I'm on here a lot today? Bidding on some stuff on eBay while Jet sleeps :laughing:
kristin5
20-01-2007, 14:12
Nitty - what a fright you must have received. Lucky you are all ok though (that's the most important thing after all).
Sare - Ryley's eyes started off a very dark blue and look to now be a lighter blue (same as mine). Bummer because I was hoping he'd get Glenn's green eyes, which are amazing (everyone comments on his eyes). Could they still change? Then again, if he has dark hair, either eye colour would look good. That's a big 'if' though - people are fond of telling me he's going to have my red hair (though mine started off orange - Ryley's started off dark brown and does look a bit lighter now, though it is also falling out. It'll be interesting to see what replaces it).
At the moment he looks like a Franciscan monk - a bald spot right around the middle of the back of his head (does that make sense?). Quite bizarre! He is also getting the dreaded flat head, though just on one side - he ONLY sleeps with his head turned to the right. No matter what I try to do to make him sleep with it turned the other way, or straight, he just won't do it, and now I think he has quite a comfortable flat bit on his head so he will do this forever. I have spoken to a Paediatrician at the hospital about it and she says not to worry - as he starts to sit up more and become more mobile, it will correct itself and hair will grow to cover it, but at the moment it looks a bit strange (lopsided).
Kimba - don't know about TTC #2. As you know, I was probably always going to stop at 1 anyway, even though I would love to have a girl. But then after the yuck pregnancy, shocking childbirth (it would've been better if I had time for pain relief probably, but the bad memory lives on, and I was sore for weeks afterwards), and then all of Ryley's health problems, we are both a bit put off. We have also been told that as Ryley's is a genetic disease, there is a 15% chance of our next child having it - high odds to us! However, having said all this, Glenn won't let me go on the pill, so you just never know...and a part of me would love for Ryley to have a brother or sister. I figure surely we have used up all of our bad luck and the next one should be a breeze?
Sue - I hope Kane is now ok. Hospital visits are never fun and seeing your baby in pain is heartbreaking.
di_matt - Ryley is a cuddler too (probably because I gave him cuddles all day long in hospital - what else could I do?) Though he's not really a mummy's boy - he doesn't care who it is as long as he's the centre of attention!
Sare - We had a deal before I even got pregnant - a girl would barrack for Collingwood and a boy would go for Hawthorn. I was so upset when I found out I was having a boy... (poor Ryley! Obviously, I love him to bits now!) I still think though - you never know, he may decide to barrack for the Pies all by himself...
I used to be a Legends member and go to all games plus interstate, but in the last couple of years I haven't gone as much and I don't buy a membership either anymore. I'd get more into it if Glenn and Ryley followed us, but that's not to be. Glenn used to be head of the Hawthorn cheersquad (many moons ago - when they actually won some games!) and I think he'd like Ryley to do the same. My family are still going to try and get Ryley over to Collingwood though (much to Glenn's disgust), although my mum actually knitted Ryley a hawthorn jumper and beanie (very nice of her really - she must've done it through gritted teeth!)
Enough of my waffling...
Hi again,
Has anyone else noticed that the girls seem to be sleeping better at night than the boys? Is that common or just coincidence?
Georgia, we noticed this in Mother's Group. There were 7 of us (3 girls and 4 boys) all the girls slept through from about 6-8 weeks, some of them are still having trouble getting their boys to sleep and they're getting close 2.5 yrs old!!! However, all of us with girls had trouble with feeding... the girls were really fussy. So who knows? :detective:
I think Sophia's eyes are brown now but both mine and dh are brown so I don't think she has any other options.
Both dh and I have hazel eyes (more green than brown), but Eloise has the most gorgeous big blue eyes. Before you all start getting suspicious we both have a blonde haired, blue eyed sister - lol. I think Lara's colouring will be more like mine (dark brown hair, when it's its natural colour) and hazel eyes.
Marion - Glad you are feeling better now that Logan is letting you have some sleep. I know I feel cr@p when I haven't slept enough after 1 night let alone weeks of it (:hugs: to you & Kimba & Sal)
Beck - Sorry that you're having a rough time with Kayley. Oh and that's no good about the receipt for the high chair.
Di - Where is the Green Sheep was Eloise's favourite book for a long time. She now 'reads' it herself, it's very cute. Gotta love repetitive books. I read it to Lara for the first time on Thursday and she sat still fr it, which I guess is all that you can ask for at this age. I love Pamela Allen books, and I have done ever since I read Belinda on my first teaching round. Eloise has 19 of her books, but her favourite of them all is Mr McGee and the Blackberry Jam. I think she's going to be a bit of a bookworm like her mummy.
Wow on your friend have her babies so close...good luck to her.
Glad that Kane and Sue are heading home - thinking of them.
Kimba - I hop on here each day hoping that Jet will have slept well for you the night before and feel really disappointed for you that he hasn't. I really hope that he starts sleeping well for you soon. If you think that he is ready for farex then go for it.
Sal - I'm loving the rain here in Melb too, just not the mugginess. I hate humidity. The four of us will definitely be going to the Collingwood v Carlton matches this year - I love it when we thrash the blues.
Jen- Definitely put a photo of your cat up...need a laugh today. I'm glad that Sam has sorted himself out for you.
re ttc#3 - We're definitely going to give it a go around September. We're going to ttc a boy, but we have both said that we would be delighted with another girl. #3 will definitely be our last.
Boy was I p****d off with dh this morning. We've lived here for 4.5yrs and still no front garden, but dh is working on it slowly. Well this morning at 6.15am he decided he was going to dig right outside our bedroom window knowing full well that I didn't get to sleep until aroung 12.30ish. Of course he didn't apologise for waking me, so I woke up in a foul mood.
On a positive note - we bought an elliptical trainer today so I can finally do some form of exercise. There's 6 weeks tomorrow until Lara's baptism. Good news is that I can finally get the size 12 pants on :thumbsup: , bad news is that they're not even close to being able to be done up :thumbsdown:
Enjoy the rest of the weekend. We're off to the tennis tomorrow.
Well I have learned today that Jet will now go down easier if I put him on his side - who knew!!!
Kimbaleo - I do this for Sam during the day. Apparently the left side is good for reflux babies. I bought a safety sleeper thingy which holds him in his side and stops him rolling. Maybe this is worth a go? Jet could be waking up due to reflux after all? Also; I just bought the cutest Pumpkin Patch suede jacket on Ebay the other day.....
Sare - DH didn't end up taking a picture but just imagine a fat orange cat, with a rubber drain sewn into his left cheek and a clear bucket on his head! (He is still missing and we are quite worried because he needs his antibiotics.) We've been here two years and I did the entire front yard in the first 4 weeks after I had Sam...by myself!
kristin5 - Sam always sleeps with his head to the left. I even swap which end of the cot he sleeps at each week and it has made no difference.
nitty - You are dealing with the scare pretty well! I'd still be a blubbering mess! I hope Dana ends up not needing the oepration.
mummyg - I always see the cutest dresses in Myer on sale; my sister used to buy $100 dresses for her daughter and I was hoping I would get them but I don't think Sam would like that!
Marion - Perth is a lovely place. My father's family live in Busselton and I love staying there and visiting all the wineries. Tell your SIL to bash it!
beck75 - I had to nap with Sam in my arms this afternoon. He was so overtired he was shrieking! Sleeps well at night now but my god, he does not want to sleep during the day...
di_matt - I really don't know how I would cope with two kids under the age of 1! I think I would probably shoot myself :D
Well; I'm off to have a glass of well-earned wine before my MIL come over to cook me dinner, god love her!
Flower159
20-01-2007, 15:12
:laughing: Yes girls, a jobby is a poo! Our name for boogers is Bogey. I could go on for days .... I think the best is when we say "I'm going to the shop for the messages" and people here say "what messages and why would you go to the shops for them?" LMAO!! It means go shopping and I can't get out of the habbit of saying it!!! Ah well, it amuses me!!!
GeorgiaAnne
20-01-2007, 15:49
:laughing: on the jobby. Marion I think you should have a Glasgow phrase du jour and educate and amuse us. I went out very briefly with a Scottish gut but couldn't continue because he had such a thick accent I couldn't undrestand much except one time he said to me (imagine a Scottish burr here) "you have fine chest" It always make me laugh to think about him.
Sare - sorry about your early morning wake up call. At least it's starting to get done.
Jen - lucky you with mil, how fab. Enjoy your glass of wine. It's quite hot here so i'm thinking about a beer:idea:
Kimba - :laughing: on the co-sleeping, I feel the same half the time and at least she wouldn't snore and take up the whole bed!
maybe1more
20-01-2007, 16:28
Kimba- thanks so much of the link to Fenugreek, i been taken 1 3 times a day but havent notice the increase yet, might you ive only been taking them for a day and a half so i might starting taking 2 tables 3 times a day.
Does anyone feel guilty for giving there bubs formula??? Not that we should but i cant help feeling bad:o I breastfeed during the day and formual fed at night, it works for me and bubs is more content plus my df does the night shift on the weekends so i get to sleep thru!! Bliss!!! My MIL makes me feel worst, if she see`s me with a bottle she start curseing in italian and i cant understand her which makes it worst, i did hear her say "rubbish" in english to me when she saw me feeding Caleb with a bottle:eek: and when i do breastfeed him when im at her house she comes into the room were im b/f and pulls back the blanket to make sure:shame: I get so angery that i starting to hate going there to be judged by her.
ourfirstbubba
20-01-2007, 16:29
hello girls!!!!
Wow, I go missing for a few days and come back on and so many posts!!!! Tried to log on last night but bubhub must have been having probs....
would love to do personals for everyone but I cant..sorry...
Rian- hope you are ok and please give my regards to Sue...poor little bugger
Nitty- glad you are ok, I get paranoid when driving with Natalia
Jen- yes, I thought you were a brunette also....poor cat....
All is well here with us, hubby and I are going to his BIL's bday tonight and my beautiful Mum is looking after Natalia....she is easy anyway so she loves it.......also, my Dad is still in hospital, looks like they will operate on his back , poor bugger, but at least he will be out of pain soon :fingerscrossed:
Sorry to you girls who are having problems with their bubs...Kimba I have been thinking of you.....
Natalia has settled into a pattern that goes roughly like this...she sleeps from 8pm until 5.45am (we give her a dream feed at about 11pm- my hubby does, I am sleeping), then I feed her nd she is back down from 6.15am until 8am....then she is down again from 10am until 12pm....down from 2pm until about 3.30pm then back down for a little sleep from 5 until 6 pm, then her night time routine starts...I really think alot of it has to do with good sleeps during the day which makes feeding her easier during the day, so she sleeps well at night....teaching her how to self settle was the best thing this sleep lady taught us...her catnapping has stopped and when she is ready to sleep, she just wants to sleep!
well its stinking hot here today, I am over summer...someone posted about the sound of rain on a tin roof...ahh, my favorite thing in the whole world (apart from my bubba and my hubby)...
will have to log on more often so I can keep up with personals...have a great weekend girls and kisses to all of our beautiful bubbas
xo
Morning all. New name now. You like? lol
Ourfirstbubba- Natalias routine sounds similar to James' except I dont dream feed him and he sleeps threw til 630 than back in bed til 8-30. But its always good when you sort of know from day to day what is going to happen.
Firstbub- My mil was like that when I b/f James. If I got frustrated or needed a break from feeding I would get dp to give him a bottle. I got some funny looks from her then.
Flower159- Haha your funny. We have some seriously weird sayings in this house too but they are very bogan and feral.
Jeffy- Oh wish someone would come over and cook me dinner. The closest I get in bacon and eggs on a sunday morning on the bbq. I dont spose I can complain.
Sare-:banghead: @ dh. Why is it when they try and be nice and do something, they still manage to **** us off?
kristin5- So glad to hear Riley is doing better. Hopefully you can get on with your motherly duties and not running to and fro from the hospital. James and his dad are both geelong fans but I prefer V8's over footy any day...lol
Kimba- Being a mum is alot of trial and error and once you figure out something they like, they go and change there minds on you. James loves his baby bonds too with a gorgeous pair of wook shorties. He is such a dude...lol
Suemp- :wave: . I hope Kane is feeling better soon. I will prob sms you today anyway but just lemme know when you get home. Take care
Ok well, I am still depressed (didnt think it would go away) but I am ok unless I get anxious. My ex has been really nasty and the girls have been stressing me out. But I think the major problem is, I never get a second too my self. If I go shopping I either have 1, 2, or all of the kids with me. If I go to the toilet they follow me and wont leave me alone. I know this is just part of being a mother but GEE give me a break. Also I dont get to have proper one on one time with any of the kids or Brendan. I would to have James on the floor for evan an hour and play with him, but then the girls need 5000 drinks, plus charlottes broken something or gotten into the fridge and broken the door off. You would think I have no routine or boundarys in my house but I do. The only time brendan and I have together is 5 minutes in bed before we fall asleep from exhaustion.
I also babysit my neice and nephew for 4 days a week but my family is too busy to help with my kids. AAARRRGGGHHH. Ok sorry for the whinge. I better run but hopefully will see how everyone is going soon...
Take care
R
Hey All,
Just a quick post but i will be back later.
I finally got around to reading my ABA magazine for January last night. There was a brilliant article about bubs in there. A little 'one sided' on the B/F side but still a great article. I have typed it up if anyone wants a read pm me and i'll send it to you.( I need email address). Made me realise a few things I was doing aren't "BAD".
Hi All
Well yesterday was a horror day - night was also worse than normal with Kayley waking up twice during the night and awake early but at least she lied in her bassinet for a while when she woke up without crying.
All day it was taking me between 45 mins and a hour to get her to sleep and she only sleeps for 45 mins - hardly seemed worth it! I gave up on an afternoon sleep and then couldnt get her down until about 11pm.
I am starting to think that she does have a reflux problem so I am not sure if this is what is causing the change. She has milk coming up to her mouth and then she swallows it but it has never seemed to bother her before - now she looks like she is in a bit of pain - she also chokes/coughs every now and then. I am thinking about going to the docs tomorrow to see what they suggest.
Yes Kimba the rocking to sleep is starting to kill my back - especially when it goes for an hour (at least this morningit was only 20 mins :fingerscrossed: it will stay like that).
Mary - I would love to here some of your settling techniques. Kayley just screams if she is put down not 99% asleep - she just works herslf up the little bugger - she is OK at night time thoug, I just put her straight down after a feed and she will go to sleep herself. I am happy with her nightime sleeps but the MHCN mae me feel so bad about her not having enough sleep during the day.
As for the girl sleeping thing - I think we drag the chain on that one!!
Well another bubba??? I am not sure I have the energy for it - this is damn hard work! DH only wants one although he would have loved to have a boy. I am in 2 minds whether we will try again - I would love to be able to give Kayley everything including a good education but we dont want to work stupid hours so she will have more chance with this if she is the only one while I wonder if it is cruel not to give her a playmate??? I also had a traumatic birth experience and a lot of troubles after so I am not sure about going through that again? If I do it will definately be an epidural as soon as I walk throuh the door!!
Anyway I have to go - Miss Kayley is awake.
Morning! Marginally better sleep last night - down at 7.40 (he was exhausted because we'd been grocery shopping and he missed his afternoon nap), then up at 1.10, 3.50 and 6.10. Shame I didn't go to bed till 9.30 or I could have had 5.5 hours sleep in a row! LOL.
Side sleeping is not working this morning, but he always hates going down for the first nap of the day and I think he's already clued onto what I'm doing when I put him on his side (can't trick him for long, the smart little bugger!)
All that said I do love him more than life itself and I can never get over just how bloody cute and funny he is. I wouldn't change him for the world even if it does mean no sleep for me.
di - are you talking about the Essence article 'doesn't the breast work any more' which says it's natural to comfort feed babies and feed them to sleep? I loved that one - really made me feel better about topping Jet up to help him sleep, and about my decision that CC is really not for me because all you're teaching your baby is to resign himself to the fact that nobody is coming when he 'needs' you (which is so sad when I think about it). Not that I'm saying CC is bad if it works for any of you by the way! - it's just not for me.
rian - new name, lucky you had the same avatar pic so I knew it was you right away. What's 'holchajam', am I missing something? LOL. Sounds like you need a break my darling! I'd be saying no to the babysitting this week at least (tell them you're sick) .
ourfirstbubba - hope all goes well with your Dad. You always sound so blissed out with your little family, it's beautiful. Reminds me just how much I do love Jet even with the sleep hassles, he's still my world. And thanks so much for the offer of help you're an :angel: I will PM you.
firstbub - occasionally I still feel guilty at times about giving Jet ABM (I'd give EBM if I could ever express enough!) but I heard a saying the other day: 'BEST is best' - IE whatever works best for you and baby is best! and don't let anyone make you feel otherwise. Sure breastmilk is great but ABM isn't bad either and you're giving your boy the best of both worlds. A rested mummy and contented bub is just as important as anything else. I'm sure it wasn't a decision you made lightly and it's obvious you are still committed to BFing him as much as you can (not like the woman I shared a room with in hospital who refused to BF her baby without even trying once, because she didn't want the 'hassle'). Shame on your MIL for the way she treats you! :shame: What is wrong with some people, seriously!
georgia - :laughing: at the 'you have a fine chest' that's a ripper!!! I bet you fell over laughing at the time. A beer sounds great I might trot off to the bottleo this arvo to get me some Corona mmmmm
marion - shop for the messages that's a new one! LOL. I agree with georgia, you should teach us a new Scottish term every day.
jen - how was dinner I wish I had someone to cook for me! DH cooked an omelette the other night FOR HIMSELF and didn't make me any. Needless to say I haven't cooked for him since then *evil laugh*
sare - Boo to your DH for waking you! yay on the elliptical it used to be my favourite cardio machine at the gym. You should get some good results in no time!
kristin - Jet has the fransiscan monk thing happening too, he rubbed off all his hair in a strip around the back of his head because he turns his head from side to side when he's dropping off to sleep and waking up. DH wanted to shave his head to make it all 'even' but I wouldn't let him. I know what you mean about TTC #2 especially with all you went through. But like you say the next one could be a breeze!
beck - big hugs - sorry you're having hassles with Kayley I really can empathise with you. Get her checked out, you never know it could be reflux bothering her. I'm still not 100% convinced that's what's bothering Jet (his huge farts seems to bother him more than his reflux now) but every baby is different.
OK better get my butt into gear have to go to woolies to get some things we forgot yesterday :banghead:. Looks like it's going to be another stinker here today so I'll grab some beers too. Enjoy your day everyone!
rian - new name, lucky you had the same avatar pic so I knew it was you right away. What's 'holchajam', am I missing something? LOL. Sounds like you need a break my darling! I'd be saying no to the babysitting this week at least (tell them you're sick) .
Stands for Holly, Charlotte + James :D. I googled my user name and it was just too obvious who I was as it comes up with all my *****ing and stuff for I thought I better have a name change :D
Sorry to hear Jet is being a bugger. I am really lucky with James' sleeping, not to brag but I didnt have to do anything with him but put him into bed and he has sorted out his own routine. I evan have all the kids having a day nap at the same time. I just cant seem to enjoy it atm :(
I hope things get better for everyone...
my god you ladies can chat!! you go away for 12 days and look at the posts. got way to much washing/ cleaning etc to read them all so i hope i can slide my way back in and catch up later.
re kanes little excursion to the hospital:
i took him to a local doc in raymond terrace as his breathing got worse and he kept going bright blue around the mouth and nose. they called an ambulance and took us to hunter hospital where they did blood/mucous tests and xrays. no infection but his trac something is narrow down the bottom and has thickening up the top and has floppy larynx which all affect his breathing. they monitored him overnight and his oxygen levels stayed safe so they allowed us home to follow it up , up here so alls well. just scary. thanks for all your well wishes
thanks for the great morning tea rian
catch up later everyone wen the house looks less like ww111 :banghead:
Hi All
Just a quick one from me - looking for some advice!
Been down to the doc who was useless - had no idea about diagnosing reflux. Called RCH for advice who agreed it sounded like reflux but didnt sound 'urgent' as Kayley is putting on weight so didnt think it necessary to give her anything. I was pretty upset when I left as the poor bugger is obviously in pain. Been on the internet since being home and it appear silent reflux if often hard to diagnose as the baby is otherwise thriving and all symptoms sound just like my poor little thing.
I do have a referral to a pead but I imagine it may take a while to get an appointment - will see what I can do tomorrow. I also need to somehow catch some urine just to rule out a bladder infection - could be interesting!
Anyway - I was thinking about trying infant Gaviscon - has anyone used it and if so had any problems - it appears to have little to no side effects and may help? The RCH recommended a thickener - I assume Gaviscon is one that can help but I suppose I will have to express to mix it in??? Anyway - any advice from you lovely ladies would be appreciated.
Thanks again.
Welcome Back Sue - glad Kane is Okie dokie :hugs: .
Yes Kimba that is the article I was refering to. I don't usually take a lot of notice when it sounds like a breast/bottle feeding article. But I do believe what's best for bub is best all round. Glad you got to read it too. Makes a lot of things fit into place.
Hope everyone has ahd a great Sunday. We are having a`'search the net for a house' day. Not alot around that is big enough for our hot potch crowd.
Catch up later
Me again (sorry to be a serial poster) - I just wanted to thank Di for sending the great article.
I feel exactly the same as what they are saying as Kayley does not appear to fit into any particular box like some people think she should. It is funny that she is not sleeping well at the moment and has been really upset and she fell asleep after a feed - I put her down (bassinet is raised so hopefully not too bad) and she has been asleep for almost 2 hours (a record for daytime sleeps) - maybe she is waking earlier normally because she is getting hungry too soon??? MHCN says she should sleep for 2 hours a stint but need to feed play sleep - as she eats every 2.5 hours this is impossible!
Anyway - thanks for sending the article to me as I don’t feel so bad feeding to sleep and if it works I might add it to my repertoire - now I don’t feel so bad about it!!
For those bubs with sleeping/settling problems, I can totally recommend the "No Cry Sleep Solutions" book by Elizabeth Pantley. It has very gentle methods, and they are working really well for us :) Kimba, if you would like to borrow it, I can bring it to the meet if you like?
Wow, there are certainly some chubby bubs here! Olivia is 6.295kg and 62cms long at 15weeks old. She is just starting to look chubby now :) Her eyes are definately blue. Mine, DH, and Olivia's eyes are exactly the same colour :)
We don't have a bath at our house, so always put Olivia in the shower with us, and we have just started to use a little seat thing in the shower. Here is a pic (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62116633@N00/361949095/)... Oliva loves it! (and it leaves my hands free to wash myself!
Nitty - that must have been SO SCARY! :hugs: So releived to hear that you are all fine though. It would make me so frightened to drive again. Poor thing.
Marion - I love reading your 'epic' posts!
I am starting to scare my DH with my cluckyness... If I had finished uni already, then I would want to ttc at the end of this year/middle of next year. I want to wait til I finish uni though. So, now that I am going part time it will be 2 years. So over it!
Jenny - Your MIL sounds like a very nasty bf nazi! I would be absolutely fuming! Grrr.. That would be hard to deal with!
Oh, Di, can you PM me that.... I forgot to tell the ABA that I moved, and missed my January Essence mag... boo hoo.
Beck - Yes, the infant gaviscon has a thickener in it (but not much).. It is worth a try. Otherwise you could try Karicare food thickener. Both need to be mixed with EBM (or formula). Actually, you can give the Karicare in water, but Olivia won't take it that way (could you imagine drinking thickened water?). Hopefully you work it out!
I totally live by doing what feels comfortable and natural in regards to my mothering. If that means feeding to sleep or for comfort, picking her up when she is crying, or rocking to sleep then so be it. If at any stage, it becomes a problem, then I will deal with it then! When people say that I am 'creating a rod for my back', I tell them that it's 'my back, my rod'. They are only little for such a short time, and they need so much from us. For me, it is more stressful watching the clock and trying to conform to routines/rules then it is following my instincts iykwim?!
Okay, I probably should go hang washing on the line before bub wakes up for a feed!!
Ta ta lovely ladies!!
maybe1more
21-01-2007, 17:11
Suemp- omg your poor little man, that must have been so extremely frighting for you when your little man went blue, i glad they monitored him and i hope he will be ok.
Beck75- your bubba does sound like she could have reflux, apparently it can be hard to diagnose especially the slient reflux. My sister has a bub 5 weeks older then mine and he bub keeps vomiting after every single feed so she now doesnt burp him as hard and she`s also put him on reflux formulas (s26) the pediatrision(s?) said her bub has a floppy laranex which could be contributing.
Ikis- wow i bet your looking foward to finishing uni, 2 years will probably be a really nice age gap, when my first baby turned 2 the cluckyness hit me full on and i knew i was ready for another little rug rat:thumbsup:
Rian- i love your new user name however i was quite sure it was you untill kimba picked up on it;)
My little man is doing well, ive been taking the feungrrek tables and i told my df that it can make your sweat and urine smell like maple syrup he said "excellent now you can pee on my pancakes" :eek: Joking of course:laughing:
SalTheGal
21-01-2007, 17:26
Hi ladies,
so much to write about- i often read the posts but don't reply till later so then I have to write twice as much!!
Jen- I will make sure I have a birthday drink for your DH on Fri!! Hope you enjoyed your MIL dinner- I couldn't stand having to entertain my MIL all by myself! And I think that is a very viable suggestion re feeding morning and night only- so long as I can garuntee my supply stays for those feeds atleast, it will make life lots easier!
Kimba- re the CC, I only ever left Nedd for five mins tops (there is NO way I could have lasted fifteen!) but still found that it helped within a couple of days, I also found comfort in the idea of being there patting him- I don't know how anyone could do the strict CC where you actaully leave them to cry. I am like you in responding quickly to Nedd when he cries- I would hate for him to think that no one cares enough to respond to him. And I find that he tends to get less upset these days- so much so that often I don't hear him at first! I sside sleep Nedd all the time- have a support thingy to hold him in place, he won't sleep otherwise- even have to do it in his pram!
Di- I hope so much that Nedd stays cuddly for a while atleast- i love our cuddle time and you are right he is very much happier when he is being comforted and held :hugs: awwww I love it!
I will PM you my detials would love to read article
Marion- hope you aare feeling a little calmer re SIL now- I am like you, I get all shaky at confrontation, and 95% of the time start crying, I am such a sook! I get upset at the thought of switching to form too- every day I question myself but can't bring myself to wean Nedd cause I know I will regret it- I love our BF relationship too much.
Nitty- I am still thinking of you re crash, every time I drive now I spare a thought for you- you sound so brave, I am very impressed you have driven again. :fingerscrossed: Dana doesn't need the op.
Kristin- had to giggle at your mum knitting hawthorn stuff- that would be VERY hard for a one eyed magpies supporter to bring herself to do!!
Sare- Bugger your DH, but atleast he is getting it done? I suppose.........?!?! And as to watching blues get beaten, well our luck has to change sooner or later, yes? ......no? ........maybe?!?!
Jenny- another one here saying screw the MIL- nosey parker, I hate it when they invade your personal space. My MIL gives Nedd kisses on the head when I am feeding, um way to close for comfort!!!!
Rian- You need some Chill time lovey. I think you ladies with two or three do such an amzing job fitting everything in, I am so scared of coping with more than one, I am sure you do an amazing job with your three- let alone babysitting more, thats superstar material!
Sue- glad to hear that you were able to return home with Kane- keep us informed hope there are some answers soon.
Bec- I gave Nedd gaviscon for silent reflux and I hated it so much I decided it was easier to put up with the reflux. It is so difficult to get into him. I would definitely reccommend expressing enough to mix it with as I had to fight him every time when giving it with water- not to mention trying to dropper 15mls of disgusting mixture into a bub is a lot to contend with. In the end I mixed it with about 30mls in a bottle before his feed, but gave up after a day or two! Nedds main symptom was the bringing up and reswallowing of milk and a cough- he isn't bothered by either now.
Pam- you sound so wise beyond your years, and definitely a very switched- Olivia is lucky to have such a laid back mum!! Love the pics in the shower too by the way!
OK enough from me I will get on again later to update Nedds happening but nothing important enough to keep waffling here for.
Marion- told you I coud give youa run for your money re post length, and I haven't even talked about me yet!!!!!!!!
:wave:
kristin5
21-01-2007, 18:38
Well another bubba??? I am not sure I have the energy for it - this is damn hard work! DH only wants one although he would have loved to have a boy. I am in 2 minds whether we will try again - I would love to be able to give Kayley everything including a good education but we dont want to work stupid hours so she will have more chance with this if she is the only one while I wonder if it is cruel not to give her a playmate??? I also had a traumatic birth experience and a lot of troubles after so I am not sure about going through that again? If I do it will definately be an epidural as soon as I walk throuh the door!!
Sounds very similar to my feelings too. I think we could offer Ryley so much more as an only child but worry about him being without a playmate. Then again, there are other babies around us about the same age and he has a cousin only 11 months older. Also, I like spoiling him rotten, with all he has been through (I know he doesn't know any different, but I really want to make it up to him) and I wouldn't be able to do that if there was another one around too. But as I said, accidents can happen ;)
I don't buy into the feed play sleep thing - Ryley has settled himself into his own routine which is sleep play feed, except at night of course where he doesn't play at all. And he always wakes up smiling (which is just adorable). What difference does it make if they feed themselves to sleep? Whatever works, I reckon!
Jenny - I would hate that sort of supervision from my MIL re: breastfeeding. My MIL was very pro-BF and queried my giving Ryley a bottle, til I told her it was EBM (I had to solely express fairly early on, so we could see how much Ryley was getting, plus as he was in hospital it wasn't possible to breast feed him 24/7 so he had to have expressed milk). Then after 4 weeks he was diagnosed as lactose intolerant so he was forced to switch to formula - my MIL nearly had a fit and couldn't understand why I couldn't breastfeed. She made a few little comments and I ended up getting Glenn to call her and have a word to her, as it was really stressing me out. As if I wanted to give up breastfeeding! I loved it (more than I thought I would actually), but the doctors told me I couldn't do it anymore. I kept expressing for a little bit and froze it, but my milk dried up pretty quickly (probably due to stress as well). And now I have been told he wasn't really lactose-intolerant (it was just a convenient diagnosis at the time, I think) but I am still not allowed to give him the frozen EBM as they don't think he absorbs it well enough. He is on a special formula called Pepti Junior which is very easy to digest (already broken down). People really need to keep their noses out of other people's business - like we don't have enough on our plates?!
Rian - how on earth do you cope looking after so many kids? You need a medal! Some days I struggle just with 1, and he is quite an angel really.
kimba - I'm glad Ryley isn't the only fransiscan monk! Quite weird looking. I hope it all replenishes itself - fast!
Sue - good news about Kane :D
Sare - hope you had fun at the Oz Open today (despite the rain). Was Lara well-behaved? Also, do you live in a new estate then? We do.
Ryley is sleeping as I write this - he has slept quite a bit today, I hope it doesn't mean we're in for a shocker of a night?! And prams are the best invention ever - as soon as we get to the bottom of the driveway, he is asleep! But it's a nice way for me to get some exercise and I like him getting some fresh air as well.
Glenn and I are off to the Oz Open on Wednesday in a superbox with one of my client's. Can't wait. It'll be a nice break. My MIL will be looking after Ryley all day - that should be interesting. We have a list of stuff to go through with her first and the other day I had to show her how to use disposable nappies (she's 73 - not a young nan!).
Hello all!
My MIL stayed until 11 pm last night watching DVD's with me. We had BBQ'd chicken kebabs, salad and antipasto (and lots of wine). It was lovely but I am really, really tired today. I had restless legs all night, which I used to get when I was pregnant. It drove me insane. DH reckons I have been depressed for a month but the man doesn't seem to realise I am just shirty with him! I have decided it is easier to do all the feeds myself than to have to witness his tantrums when Sam spits up on him at 2 in the morning. He actually had a shower. I would have wiped it up and gone back to bed:D .
beck75 - My doctor just went along with my diagnosis of silent reflux. The gaviscon offered a lot of relief and I then went onto Karicare thickener, which also helped but not enough. Now Sam is on medication. Sam sleeps for 40 minute stints but is very hard to get down. I can't imagine him ever behaving like he is 'supposed to.'
kimbaleo - My DH is like that too. Tonight I asked him to make tacos and they were darned good! I'm starting to think he is more competent than I originally thought....
suemp - That sounds absolutely terrifying! Kane went BLUE?! My lord! I hope everything is okay. What is the plan now?
ikis84 - I love nothing more than cuddling my little man to sleep in our bed every afternoon. He always sleeps longer and I get a good rest too. I do cop some flak for it though! I'm a sooky mum and I think they need their cuddles more than a routine sometimes. Motherhood has definitely softened me!
firstbub - :laughing: Your DF definitely got a laugh out of me!
salthemum2be - I'll have a drink for him, too - the skinny little bugger won't drink or eat anything 'unhealthy' at the moment. I'll take his share!
Well; DH is showering after another intense garage workout. I did an hour of weights this afternoon and feel good for it. Sam is asleep, so might have a cuppa and read my new Cleo and stare at the flowers DH bought me. I feel very spoilt...
Evening all,
OMG it's so hot I can't sleep! the aircon is in the living room and isn't making it to the bedroom. Jet went down an hour ago and I know I should be making the most of it and sleeping myself, who knows what time he will wake...he had some big sleeps today (45 min, 2 x 2hrs) but not without a battle to go down each time - except for his bedtime feed when I just fed and cuddled him to sleep. I'd be a softie and do that for his day sleeps too, if HE would do it - but he's usually too busy stickybeaking and wanting to party :party: LOL
Jen - my doctor was a bit the same, I said 'I think he has silent reflux?' and went through the symptoms and she said 'yes sounds like it let's put him on Losec, if it helps him then it's reflux if it doesn't then it's not'. Which is why I was a bit unsure about putting him on a drug like Losec since we aren't even sure if it's reflux bothering him. He's been on it for almost a week now and still not a lot of improvement with sleep but hey you never know. I wish my DH would buy me flowers and cook! I showed him how to cook 5 minute mie goreng (indonesian noodles with chicken) tonight so maybe he'll be inspired to adopt it as his own dish to cook. I can hope.
kristin - I feel the same about having a playmate for Jet. His hair looks even funnier since he has this big swirl at the back of his head which is the only hair there at the moment. I took a photo I'll send it to you for a laugh. Have fun at the tennis!
sal - even if I pat Jet he cries harder (screams) so I find that even worse - that he knows I'm there but not picking him up. I'll keep trying though when he seems to be in the mood, because I really do want him to re-learn that going to sleep is nice! I didn't like the Gaviscon either. Mixed it with his ABM so it wasn't too hard to give him (although I don't think he liked the taste) but it made him so constipated (like plasticine) so I'll only use it in dire emergencies now.
firstbub - hope the fenugreek works for you, do you smell like maple syrup yet? It's quite bizarre when it first happens LOL
pam - you're an :angel: as usual! I'd love to borrow the book for a quick read. Olivia is such a little honey. We were thinking of getting one of those seats for the big bath but using it in the shower is a great idea too, jet has showers with us but is getting very squirmy now!
beck - don't worry about Kayley not fitting into the box, nor does Jet. Although I probably wouldn't stress as much about his sleep issues if I didn't know that other bubs his age are sleeping fine! I have to stop comparing him and just accept that he is how he is and if I never sleep again then so be it, LOL. Re: Gaviscon see comment above, I use Karicare thickener in any bottle I give Jet (EBM or ABM) but if you're breastfeeding only then you can make it into a gel on a spoon to give to them (mixing it with EBM is easier though I think).
di - good luck with finding a house!
sue - OMG that must have been so scary for you if Jet went blue I think I'd have a pink fit. So glad that Kane is OK now :hugs:
rian - about your user name - very clever - and duh I should have worked it out myself LOL! Glad that James is such a good little man for you. Please try to get some time to rest or do something nice for yourself this week! :hugs:
~Kristin~
21-01-2007, 21:03
OMG - you have been a busy bunch while we have been in Tassie!
Not sure where to start, but I hope everyone is going well. Hi to Kristin5 - I was surprised to see another Kristin too, especially spelt the same way! :yes:
Tassie was great! Isabella was soooooo good on all the flights, and the family is completely besotted with her. It was so funny watching her "play" everyones emotions. She is definately working out very quickly that she can control the room.
Has anyone else noticed how their bubs work an audience? Isabella will be a handful I think.
Bella's reflux is more under control now, I think the double doseage is working, she has even been sleeping through from 7.30pm - 5.30/6am again - :smiliedance: .
Well I'm off to eat some Krispy Kreme donuts we broughts at the Sydney airport - yummy!!!!!!!
Flower159
21-01-2007, 21:08
Hi Everyone- how are you all this fine sunny weekend?
I'm p*sh (Scottish word of the post!!) (replace the * with an i)
Had the BIL round today for round three of the big debate. My SIL is all over the place (a bit like me then) but it's all my fault - well, it's not, but it feels like it!! Don't know if you'll remember, but SIL had breast cancer when we arrived and she's now been in remission for 6 months. So all this stress is going to bring it back, or so they keep telling me. So basically I should've just kept my big mouth shut forever because she's been ill last year. I know I probably sound heartless, but I really couldn't take anymore - that's why I spoke out. I couldn't use the cancer as an excuse any more. But now I feel like a right cow. What to do??! It's done now and there's nothing I can change. Sorry folks, I said I wouldn't mention it again, didn't I??!? If there was a smiley with a big petted lip I'd be using it now.
So Logan's been a horror today because his mammy's all upset again. It really affects them when we cry, doesn't it? Anyway, he's sleeping now, so bedtime routine is all gone, but he is so tired I'll leave him for another half hour. I'm sat here with the ipod on loud so that I can't hear the girls and I can get some peace in my brain. (does that make sense??! - I think I'm losing my mind again!!)
Anyhoo, Sue, I'm glad Kane is back home - that's a real fright you got. I hope it's nothing serious at his follow up. :fingerscrossed:
Jen - you are so fab getting on with your MIL so well. I get on OK with mine, but all that time alone might not go so well! I am so impressed with all the excercise that you do, the only exercise I get is hanging out the washing! And flowers ..... well, you're making us all jealous!!
Rian, I'm with all the ladies here, you've enough to cope with without having to babysit too! - you are a saint and I'm very impressed.
Georgia - I had a good old chuckle that you couldn't understand that poor Scottish laddie! I get that often, people smile and nod, but the eyes give away that "eh???" look!!
Jenny - poor you on the MIL. I don't know how you kept your patience. I think I would cry next time she comments and maybe she'll think twice. Some people are so nasty. (god-damn inlaws :laughing: )
Mary - I'm with you on the good sleeps. If Logan sleeps well through the day then he'll sleep well at night. I'm in for a rough one tonight then!! Thank god the EPL is on Fox and I can watch that and be brain dead!
Sorry Ladies, that's Logan awake. Will finish all the personals later if I get a minute. Take care and sleep well. Marion.xx
~Kristin~
21-01-2007, 21:12
Almost forgot -
I'm a little concerned....:confused: Have been feeling a little travel sick the last week or so, and I NEVER get travel sick, except for when I was in 1st Tri with Bella.
I hope this doesn't explain why Isabella has been fussy on the boob the last couple of weeks and why I feel sooooooo tired (more than usual). I have been told that your BM changes when preg and bubs can go off their food a bit. Eeeekkkkkkkkkkkkk :eek:
Will do test in next few days to be safe I think.
Kristin-not-TTC
well kane slept 11 hours last night had qick feed and back to sleep. must be going thru another growth spurt. im wide awake. still getting used to the whole no day light savings thing up here.
we were adamant we only wanted one baby after jake esp after all the medical probs we had with him plus we arent the clucky type but we did notice him missing out wen he got to about 4 and we saw his friends with siblings. while he got to play with friends he still couldnt take them home to play with iykwim. hence the reason we had kane. this time we are both more into the baby stages (not saying we favour kane over jake but i think we were ready fior it this time and more relaxed) but thats just my opinion. if you are happy with only one child than dont have one just to have one as its not the right reason. and like us your mind may change anyway. our littlies are only 3 months old. plenty of time to decide if you want more.
dont know much about silent reflux so cant help there. kane used to have bad wind and vomiting but it was due to us over feeding. once i slowed that down he improved 100 percent
kane has wat they call tracheomalacia and they hope he will grow out of it. they have to look down throat with camera and be monitored by paed. wen they called the ambulance i broke down in the doc surgery and said i wanted to just have a trouble free baby this time. boy did i feel like an idiot after. the doc and ambo were lovely though
kirsten glad little ryley is thriving. by your avator he is a cutie Valentine
funny baby story: our flight was only an hour home so after changing kane just before takeoff i thought hed be ok as in bub wise so just took a bottle with me on board as i was by myself with the 2 kids and didnt want to struggle carrying too much. well as we were coming down kane decided to start pooing. (the poor lady next to us) and it was one of those havent pooed in 2 days long loud poos that stunk. i was balancing him praying the nappy would hold it all. our bags were the last to come thru the conveyer so i grabbed it and ran to the mothers room only to find it over flowing out the sides with green poo. the poor bugger. sorry i know tmi but how else to describe it lol
well off to have some breaky
love to all
sue
i just read up on tracheomalacia and it sounds scary. it can also include heart defects, development delay (here we go again) and 2 other things i got no chance to pronounce...not happy now :no: :crying:
SalTheGal
22-01-2007, 07:33
Morning all, just a quickie as a busy day ahead!
Nedd is same old same old, though I am seeing a smidge of light at the end of the tunnel re sleep.
I decided sat night to be strict on my little man, so for the last two nights he has woken at 10.30 for a feed, then 2.30 when I have been able to resettle without a feed (with a struggle- but we got there!), then up again for a feed about 3.30/4.30, then 7am. So I can cope with it if I can just get him back into the habit of sleeping through that 2am wake.
Apart from the night issues Nedd is being gorgeous, I love him more and more every day.
Kimba- how long did it take for you to notice the difference with fenugreek? I have been taking it for a week now- 2 tabs 3xdaily, and am yet to really notice a great difference.
And I see what you mean re the CC not working for you- I think the mothercraft nurse was right when she said Jet was cluey!! He sounds like a bright little button!
Sue- hang in there, I know it must be so hard to have to deal with this after the stresses youo had with Jake- but if anyone cape cope you can, you seem like such a strong person. :hugs:
Kristin, :eek: at the thought of being preggers again! Freinds of ours have just accidently fallen and they have a 7mnth old- I thought that would be stressful enough! Good luck with the test.
Nedd knows how to charm the ladies- he is shocker! He goes all coy and cuddles into me- then turns and gives them big grins, little flirt!
Marion- the saga continues hey!! Take care of yourself, sounds like you and logan need some seriuos cuddle time! I know when I am upset once upon a time I'd turn the DF for cuddles- now he misses out cause no one gives cuddles like Nedd....they make me feel so much better.
Re the TTC we definitely wont be till we have built our new house- happening this year- but as Nedd was a little surprise parcel our original time line was to TTC this year after the wedding whilst we were building........Nedd was about 12mnths earlier, thus no2 wont be happening till atleast late next year. I want to have been back to work for a while and have ourselves set up enough so I can take plenty of time off after no2.
Well best go jump in the shower, am off to get defuzzed this morning from head to toe (literally: legs, bikini, underarms, arms, eyebrows)- ouch:( I hate getting waxed- but better than shaving!
Happy days everyone :yes:
Kristin :eek:
Sue :hugs:
Sal :smiliedance:
An exciting thing happened this morning... I tried on my pre-pregnancy jeans and they fit!!!! Better than before!! Woohoo. Now I just have 3 more kgs to lose... and I need to try to sculpt my muffin top! Yeah, like that is going to happen.
Regarding sleep... I have started to use a key word and action when Olivia goes to sleep (suggestion from the No Cry Sleep Solution). I stroke her forhead down to her nose and say 'sleepy time'. After doing this for a few days while she is going to sleep, it is now a sleep cue for her. So, I can put her in her cot, use the key word and :wizard: we have sleepy eyes! It also helps to resettle her if she hasn't slept long enough.
It is going to be another hot day in Sydney today! Thank the lord that I have aircon now!
Hope you all have a great day!
BubHub doesn't let me use enough of these :banghead: to describe the night we had last night. Shall I go into detail? Why not. Just skip the entire next paragraph if you don't want to know LOL.
Bub in bed by 8pm, fed to sleep with no drama. Mum has dinner with a big glass of wine to celebrate and spends next hour and a half on BubHub and talking to DH about how good beautiful cute smart and funny Bub is, and how she can't wait to have another one to double the fun. Hence Mum doesn't sleep till 9.30. Bub wakes at 11. And 1. And 1.40 (yes I know). And 3 - by this time Mum has not slept since 1, since Mr 'doesn't know the meaning of quiet' DH gets up at 2.30 and Mum was stressing he would wake Bub who'd only just gone back to sleep after 1.40 topup. At 3.10 Mum has had enough and brings bub to bed with her. Bad idea - Bub wakes at 4.30 kicking grizzling and refusing boob (dammit) so will not go back to sleep. Mum gives Bub a bottle in desperation, hoping to knock Bub out for a few hours, but Bub only drinks 90ml then does a HUGE poo at 5.10. Mum has to turn on lights to change nappy, which wakes Bub up completely and he's ready to party - being VERY smiley and cute need I say, but Mum is not impressed and won't look at him. Bub needs an hour of wrap/rock/comfort suck on (empty) boob to go back to sleep, at 6.20. Mum takes 2 Panadeine Forte for her budding migraine and tries to sleep. Mum is just feeling the lovely codeine kicking in when Bub wakes at 7 kicking and squealing happily and refuses boob, and will not lie quietly cuddling Mum as she tries to doze in her codeine haze. Bub refuses bottle too and gets huge hiccups. Mum has to get up and play with excited squealy hiccupy bub until 9 when he finally goes back to sleep after being wrapped and rocked for half an hour. Mum collapses in sobbing heap on floor.
I think I jinxed myself the other day when I said it couldn't get any worse LOL!
All I can say is thank god for the ugly glider/ rocker that my cousin left with me when he moved to England because without it there's no way I could be rocking Jet to sleep esp when he refuses the boob (and there's no way I'm trying the shoosh and pat on a night like last night).
Ungrateful little monkey is doing my head in with the breast refusal too - doesn't he appreciate the hard work I put in to keep my milk going for him! I hate expressing and taking motilium and fenugreek, LOL. It's like he knows I rely on my boobs as a weapon to get him back to sleep in the wee hours! hehehe.
He is just so cute though that I can't be mad at him. Maybe all this is a sign of intelligence and he'll be a brilliant successful surgeon or barrister and reward me with a life of luxury and annual Caribbean cruises in my old age. HA! :-)
Pam I've always tended to agree with the 'my rod, my back and I'll deal with it when I need to' idea too - but I think this is my rod already coming back to bite me now...sigh. Better now than when I go back to work I guess.
Pam - way to go on the pre-preg jeans that's great! I use the 'it's time to sleep' or 'sleepy time' too but it has the opposite effect on Jet - he goes :eek: OH NO, NOT BED!?!
Sal - have fun being defuzzed! Not long to go now...exciting!!!
sue - :hugs: try not to stress (I know it's hard when you are worried), hopefully it isn't as bad as it sounds. Don't feel like an idiot it's very stressful to have a sick bub especially when you had problems with your first - of course you would want to hope for a trouble-free bub this time and it doesn't mean you're silly or that you love him any less.
Kristin - wow hope you're not preg (if that's not what you want). Geez I hope that's not why Jet's been refusing the boob :eek: it'd have to be a major fluke since I've been so tired we've only done the deed about 5 times since he was born LOL. Glad that Bella was so good on your trip! Yes Jet absolutely works an audience - whenever I take him to Mother's Group he beams at everyone and performs, likewise when I take him to the doc or ECHC he turns on the cute contentedness and they don't believe me when I say he's been irritable and refusing to sleep!
Marion - sure it's sad that your SIL had cancer, but surely that doesn't give her a right to be a total **** and have everyone put up with it/ tippy toe around her forever? And if stress will bring it back then why does SHE create drama and confrontation? It's not like you went round to her place picking a fight. I still think it's great that you stood up for yourself, although I bet it's very distressing to have everyone jumping down your neck now. (Your DH should stand up for you more!) We love you anyway - hang in there!
my god can you believe that today of all days the council has decided to 'sweep' our street and go up and down the nature strips with whippersnippers and lawnmowers - ALL AT ONCE? could they make any more noise??? I'm desperately running around closing windows so it doesn't wake Jet up.
Rian - how on earth do you cope looking after so many kids? You need a medal! Some days I struggle just with 1, and he is quite an angel really.
rian - about your user name - very clever - and duh I should have worked it out myself LOL! Glad that James is such a good little man for you. Please try to get some time to rest or do something nice for yourself this week! :hugs:
Rian, I'm with all the ladies here, you've enough to cope with without having to babysit too! - you are a saint and I'm very impressed.
I am at my wits end. I dont deserve a metal or anything. I dont cope and am not copeing at all atm. I spend 6 of my 7 hours in bed crying my little lungs out because I am so used and tired and depressed.
I have called off the wedding because I feel dp uses me too. Hes more than happy to do nothing all weekend and leave everything for me during the week "keeps me busy apparently". I had my family over last night and my sis decided to scribble on my new wooden table with candle and had the nerve to laugh when I asked her to stop it. "THE ***** IS 30 YRS OLD" I was bawling my eyes out and they just roll there eyes at me and say "oh shes depressed again.
Sorry for the vent. I wont be on for a while. I am unhappy to evan breath atm...
Oh Rian hunny :hugs: I hate hearing you so sad :hugs: please PLEASE call me if you need a sympathetic ear! :kiss:
I feel dp uses me too. Hes more than happy to do nothing all weekend and leave everything for me during the week "keeps me busy apparently".
bl**dy men!!! :mad: I know how you feel, mine thinks that because I'm not at work, I'm now his personal slave. like I'm not being a full time 24x7 baby carer for a demanding bub (get no help from him even when he's here). So I've stopped cooking for him and washing his clothes. All my energy goes into looking after Jet and me.
And BOO to your family for rolling their eyes and not being supportive. Obviously you need some support and care right now!
Rian - :eek: :hugs: :kiss: You can't keep doing this to yourself! You need some help. Is there anyone in your family you can ask to help out, even for the day? Obviously not your sister or fiancee! If you can't take a break, it will just get worse and worse. Please don't stop bubhubbing, you need people to talk to that understand at least a little of how you are feeling. We all love you and if there is anything we can do, please let us know. I think step 1 should be that you don't do ANY housework and just let it go. Step 2 - Don't make DF dinner ever again. Is there any chance you could pop the girls into a holiday program during the day to keep them occupied? What about the YMCA or something?
Nothing for me to complain about at all. Sam has been a very good boy and I made DH do the night feeds last night and get up early. I then took Sam back to bed with me until about 8. I will let DH sleep uninterrupted tonight. Took the stupid cat (he turned up) to the vet to get the tube out of his cheek. He has been meowing constantly and I am trying so hard not to boot him up the bum!
Kimba - You really are having a s**t time of it, aren't you? When the hell is this baby going to give you a break?! Clever little monkey! Maybe you could try doping him up with panadol LOL!
Pam - Congrats! Isn't it the best feeling in the world?! I am lighter than before but still have muffin top; I think that will take a lot more time to get rid of.
suemp - Ewwwwww! I'll bet it was a nice stinky one and the lady next to you was probably gagging and thinking "Just my luck" Tracheomalacia sounds pretty scary. I hope the poor little guy grows out of it.
Isabella's mummy - Let us know how the test goes :fingerscrossed:
sal - I am a complete wuss and am too chicken to get waxed. I did it once and never again!
Marion - My MIL is a legend. We lived with her for a few months and I get along with her like she was my own mum.
Well; gotta go and have some food before my cranky kid wakes up. Took me 25 minutes to get him to sleep!
RIAN - THINKING OF YOU, HONEY!
bl**dy men!!! I know how you feel, mine thinks that because I'm not at work, I'm now his personal slave.
Best thing I ever did was leave DH to look after Sam for 24 hours. My how his attitude changed!
Took the stupid cat (he turned up) to the vet to get the tube out of his cheek. He has been meowing constantly and I am trying so hard not to boot him up the bum!
:eek: :laughing: I'm a cat lover but I almost did the same to my cat last night when I was trying to get Jet off to sleep and she crashed something over in his room :banghead:
Maybe you could try doping him up with panadol LOL!
Don't tempt me! LOL. I've already been dosing his bath with lavender oil to try and knock him out. Bad, bad mother :laughing:
Now I know why my friend said the best time in her life was when her son was old enough to be given Phenergan. Not that I would sedate Jet, but I understand what she means now!
rian im sooooo sorry your feeling so bad. you seemed a chirpy little honey wen i met you but i know its easy to fake it. i missed the post about you being a baby sitter. have to check that out.
speaking of useless males..mine is on holidays today and he is still in bed!!!! so me and jake have been vacuuming everything to annoy him hee hee. dont get me even started on the dramas i had to deal with last night concerning neighbours and best friends but it involved alot of alcohol (not in me) throwing bottles at each other, banging heads against the wall. police, at all hours hope you get the drift.
we got another bad news our mate across the road who we are good friends with his family his mum went to hospital the other day as she wouldnt wake up. turns out its brain cancer and shes only got days to weeks left. i spoke to her husband this morning and he is doing well considering
jake the pain in the *** wants to say hi:loom
kristin5
22-01-2007, 11:15
Rian - I had no idea things were so bad (sorry, I missed a lot whilst Ryley was in hospital). I agree with Jeffy though - you really need to talk to someone, and if there is no one else to vent to other than here, than by all means do it! We can handle it!
Kimba - you poor thing. Could you express just for a night so that your DH can look after Jet and you can get a good night's sleep? That way you'll be more refreshed and ready to face it all the next day. I know it probably is easier said than done though (it's very hard to express - I remember!) You're right though - no matter how mad they make you, you can't stay mad for long cos when they smile it makes you melt!
Suemp - give DH a kick up the bum!
My DH is fantastic. He gets up to Ryley for the morning feed and then goes to work and his home in the afternoon for the afternoon feed, the dinner feed and stays with me for the late night feed. So I only have to do an overnight feed (sometimes) and a midday feed by myself. And I don't have to put up with constant crying because DH is with me to assist (and take Ryley out for walks). He also does the bathing and bowel washout (a "fun" thing we have to do because of Ryley's disease and ileostomy), and cooks, cleans and washes. I certainly can't complain. (He was already like this though, so I was already used to it! Lazy sod, I am!)
Though he does have his moments - he can't handle hearing Ryley cry (or should I say squeal?) and has even left the house in a huff so he doesn't have to listen to it! Squealing seems to be another stage Ryley is going through. Anyone else experiencing this?
Kristin - good luck with the test. Hope it turns out whichever way you want it to go.
Pam - I'm jealous! I seriously need to get my *** into gear so I lose some weight too. I have started milkshake replacements today and will see how that goes.
I am off for a haircut today (and straighten, so I look reasonable for the tennis, though I have no idea what to wear) - the first in 15 months! It will be interesting to see how much she thinks I need cut off - I am trying to grow it, and it is very long, down to my waist, but the sides break off and so are a lot shorter and I get this 'v' thing down my back, which I hate. I'll probably need a few inches taken off (all the split ends) and it'll be short again (well, short for me anyway). Arrgh!
Sal - Nedd sounds like Ryley. Cheeky little munchkins! Heartbreakers already at just a few months of age... And you're a lot braver than me getting waxed. I've done it once and it was awful (I bled!) so then went to Veet/Nair and now only shave (it's a lot easier and quicker).
Hee-hee-hee...I just heard this almighty squealing (Kristin - Sam does it, too!) and went in to find Sam had rolled over and was very unhappy on his tummy:eek: ! First time he has rolled over and I didn't get to see it. Bummer. I just hope he doesn't keep doing it because I can see myself getting up umpteen times to roll him back!
Kimba - My sister had to use Phenergan on my nephew to get him into a sleep routine. Not sure how it went but I was al little shocked to hear of this stuff.
sue - My DH tried that and I simply went it, said "Here - hold this" and handed the baby to him. I then spent two hours showering and sitting on my bum :D
kristin - Thank goodness for your DH! I can't imagine how hard it would be if he was a lazy bugger like most of ours are. You can tell him from us he is a legend. I hope your hair turns out perfectly for you!
Sorry all. I really should learn to calm down before I run off all half cocked. Yes things are that bad but not all the time. I have quit smoking too (yay for me) which is an awful time to do it but its now or never. I dont know exactly what I want or what I need but hopefully once I get rid of my house guest (bro and sil have been staying here for a month now, without so much as paying for food.)
bbs
maybe1more
22-01-2007, 11:32
Kristen- If you dont normally get travel sickness then i def be doing a test. My aunty was on ivf for 2 years and fell pg her daughter is 5 months old and she has just found out she is pg again and concieve naturally:eek: Her doctor told her the pregnancy hormone is concertrated in your body for 6 months following the birth so its more easier to fall pg.
Sal- are you getting nervous about your wedding??? I cant belive is only 4 more sleeps away. Have you got a cute little tux for Nedd? I havent notice much diffrence with taking feungreek tablets yet either, im going to start increasing the dose untill i smell that maple syrup:D
Rian- im so sorry to hear your having such a bad trot, male just think because we are mother then that means its our duty to do everything, wake up guys !!!that may have been the cases 50 odd years ago but now its power to us chicky babes and men need to stand up and let a hand (or Two) Is too hard to be excpected to have this all on our shoulders, we need help and its part of a father responsiblilty to help raise his children.
Jeffy- glad to hear you get on so well with your MIL, want to swap???? :laughing: My df does the weekend nightshift with Caleb so it help me to re-charge after a week of having broken sleep, and it make the world of difference and my df realise how much happier i am when i had sleep!
Suemp- i sorry to hear about your mates across the roads mum,it makes us realise that nothing is garenteed in life we just except to wake up in the morning and go on with our everyday things, this poor lady probably thou the same.
Good on you for trying to wake yr man up, when my df takes hoildays i think of it more as my hoildays as he can get up and i can sleep in!!!
Marion- do feel bad, you have the right to say something, i know your sympathic to your SIL breast cancer but that doesnt excuse her for being a cow and she can blame it on her action either.:shame:
Irkis- OMG your already fitting into your jeans!!! Good on you that great!! The only jeans i fit into are the stretch denim ones!!!
I have a pretty good weekend, i had my niece sleep over, its wasnt too hard as she kept my ds entertained but they make twice the mess!!! I think ill just settle for my 2 boys for a few years.:
kristin5
22-01-2007, 11:55
Jeffy - the squealing is funny for now, but I think it will get annoying pretty quickly. I remember my nephew did it from about 6 months of age through to 10 months. And once when we were out at a restaurant - I felt sorry for the other patrons.
I am still waiting for Ryley to roll over. I put him on his tummy a few times each day and he tries to roll back, with his legs, but he can't seem to get his arms worked out (he's not the only one - I still wish it was possible to remove arms at night so I could sleep more comfortably! I reckon they're a pain in the neck!).
And I will tell Glenn that he's a legend - and he'll just nod knowingly then proceed to remind me about it all the time when I complain (yep, I still find things to complain about - I sound like a spoilt brat, don't I?) Actually all of my friends know just how great he is around the house, doing everything, and when one of them found out I was having a boy, she asked if she could marry him in 25 years' time because she figures he will be well-trained just like his dad!
Don't worry, I do know how lucky I am, with both Glenn and Ryley Valentine My perfect boys! :)
Jen - Yay on the rolling over! Clever boy! Jet was rolling from tummy to back a couple of weeks ago but either doesn't like it or has forgotten he could. He tries to twist to roll from back to front only when I get his nappy off and he's naked! :laughing: not sure why it's only when he's naked that he tries to do it - maybe the feeling of the wind on his bits gets him revved up LOL. I've taken some photos it's pretty funny. We have the squealing too, it's cute during daylight hours but not so much at 4.30am!
firstbub - with the fenugreek (as with any other galactagogue) you do need to stimulate your boobs as well as taking it - either feeding more regularly or expressing after feeds. It usually take about a week for me to notice a change. Mind you, as with anything, it doesn't work at all for some people...
Rian - glad to hear you've calmed down a bit - I'd have the sh1ts with houseguests like that too - you'd think they could at least help you out or give you a break in exchange for free room and board!
Kristin - you have to be kidding about DH doing night feeds :laughing: he doesn't even wake up when Jet calls out in the night, let alone when I get up to feed him. Anyway, he's never been interested in giving Jet a bottle of EBM or ABM even when he's awake. Besides he goes to work at 2.45am so apart from the fact that he feels he 'deserves' to have the unbroken sleep till then (and apparently I don't!?), he isn't around for the early hours when I really need it anyway.
Can I just have a little rant about DH? He doesn't even give me a break on weekends, even when I feed Jet in the morning and ask him to take him to let me sleep for an hour, he plonks himself with Mr Squealy right on the bed beside me so I can't sleep anyway. And I am SO SICK of hearing the excuse 'I don't have boobs' !!! especially now that Jet will take either a bottle or boobs and sometimes refuses the breast anyway. And you don't need boobs to settle him or give him a bath. I'm also sick of him asking for help to change a pooey nappy!!! as if he can't do it himself now after 3 months? He is such a lazy ****, he just came home and played with Jet till he was tired then gave him to me to settle, and put himself to bed for a nap! even though he knew I hadn't slept since 1am :mad: No dinner for him tonight! I think I might cook myself something really nice and rub it in.
Ahh. Feel better now :o I promise next post I will not whinge about ANYTHING.
:eek: OMG, my baby is still asleep! :yelclap:
he plonks himself with Mr Squealy right on the bed beside me so I can't sleep anyway.
DH used to do that until I went off my nut at him. He took Sam for a drive yesterday so I could have a nap. Good DH, good boy! I'm telling you; if you could do it, leave him with bub for 24 hours with a supply of bottles and tell him to deal with it. He would never do this to you again :D
kristin - I don't think Sam will try it again in a hurry!
Anyone else's bubs have a wonky head? Sam always sleeps with his head to the left and it's starting to wear a flat bit in his skull. I think I need to try to get him facing the other way...
hey Kimba, I have to have a moan too...
Ella is having a complete evil gremlin 24hrs... she was awake for 3 hrs after midnight last night howling her little heart out.
Just went home for lunch and DP tells me she has been crying for 1.5hrs straight this morning without a break. Then as I walked out the door she started again!
maybe it's another growth spurt? It's so unusual for her to do this!
About DP taking care of the baby... now he's the full time carer during the work day, he is much more aware of the importance of "baby time out" :laughing:
Jeffy, I think the only reason Ella learnt to roll front to back was cos she hates tummy time so much :) Also re the head, that happened to friends of mine & they just had to turn his head the other way every 2nd sleep, they also had to move his cot so he would look to the other side (but they had a bad case).
Kristin, enjoy that haircut. I know I would! I have "reverse top deck" hair at the moment as I'm growing my darker natural colour back into an old blond dye job!
That will have to do for now. Naugty me posting at work.
Hi All
thanks for the advice on the Gaviscon - sounds like I might try to put up with things for a bit or try the Karicare instead! I have a paed appointment but not until 13th February - wont last that long if she doent improve though. I am just trying to really work out when it bothers her, done some searches for advice and she has been better with me keeping her up all the time but god that is tiring! I went to the docs for urine test today and waited another 2 hours - it was clear as I expected.
It is just so heartbreakig when you can see they are in pain but cant do anything about it. My boobs are also sore because she keeps pulling off in pain which is a bugger.
Kristen - OMG you could be PG already??? I dont even have my period back yet and not getting a lot of action anyway - too bloody tired most of the time! Maybe when I get kayley sleeping in her own room this will change a bit - she is sleeping in there during the day for the last couple of days so thats step 1! Is anyone else still waiting for their period to start??
Rian - hope you feel better soon - I think you need to find someone you can talk to poor thing.
Kimba - Phenergan always seemed to be a joke term but doesnt sound like such a joke now!!! For the last couple of nights I can only get Kayley asleep after a feed and I think I am definately developing a rod for my back but after an hour of crying I am willing to try anything. How bad is it if they still have to feed to go to sleep when they are older??? I think I can live with that as long as they sleep!!
Jeffy - congrats on the rolling - Kayley does not appear to be there yet but I have actually got her on her tummy for a few minutes without complaining after a bath for the last few nights which is an improvement!
Bec - I am hoping Kayley is having a growth spurt too and that this reflux will improve a bit in a few days - it may be wishful thinking but :fingerscrossed: !
As for the fenugreek - I havent felt as full the last few days so thinking about trying some of that as well to see if that helps with Kayley - maybe she is pi@#$$ed off because she is not getting all she wants??? I dont know!
Well it sounds like many DH/DPs need a kick up the bum - not surprising why so many people break up after having kids!
Well Kayley is awake after her 45 minutes (like clockwork) so I better go (I am not doing CC either - going to look up that no cry sleep solution book soon)!
harvey123
22-01-2007, 13:10
I'm new to bubhub. Our dd was born on 31/10/06. Anyone know when you should stop wrapping your bub? I splurged and bought one of those grobug things...she just lies there and chews on it and seems to delight in kicking it. So I gave up and wrapped her up again and she went straight to sleep. I'm bf, has anyone tried bottled feeding ebm and had any success? I tried and our dd wouldn't have a bar of it. Is it too early? Greatful for any help...:wave:
I'm new to bubhub. Our dd was born on 31/10/06. Anyone know when you should stop wrapping your bub? I splurged and bought one of those grobug things...she just lies there and chews on it and seems to delight in kicking it. So I gave up and wrapped her up again and she went straight to sleep. I'm bf, has anyone tried bottled feeding ebm and had any success? I tried and our dd wouldn't have a bar of it. Is it too early? Greatful for any help...:wave:
welcome harvey. you have stumbled across a great group of women...esp me hee hee.
i stopped wrapping bub at about 1 week old. and i ff bub but many women on here bottle feed ebm. maybe try a different shaped teat and warm it a little?? never done it but thats wat id try
kristin5
22-01-2007, 16:40
Kimba - Glenn did that to me a few times too "Oh, I'll let you have a sleep-in" and then he brought Ryley into the bedroom and plonked him down next to me! I let him have it a couple of weeks ago, and he's never done it again since (I threatened I'd do the same to him overnight! :laughing: ). On weekends, I think their working excuse goes out the window - that's why I hang out for weekends because then, as far as I'm concerned, we're equal and take it in turns to get up or both get up (for some reason, it doesn't seem so bad if you're up together?)
Becbabe - my head feels so much lighter (which'll be nice in the hot and humid weather) but I miss my hair already! It has been cut to just below my shoulders, which is the shortest it has been in years, but now at least it is finally the one length all over. And Glenn loves it (he always whinges about my very long hair because he says it gets in his mouth while he's sleeping - well, he shouldn't snuggle so much and give me my personal space!) It'll take some time for me to get used to it, I think, but it isn't totally horrendous. And it'll grow! It was also nice being pampered :)
harvey - welcome! Ryley virtually told us when to stop wrapping him - he kicked and wriggled his way out of everything (and still does, it's quite funny to watch, but may be a bit frustrating come winter time when he needs to be rugged up to keep warm). I was also told that mostly prem or little babies like to be wrapped, but bigger babies not so much. But there is no right or wrong way of doing it - it's whatever is best for you and your bub.
Just on phernergen, my mum used to dose me and my sister up with it then leave us at home by ourselves and go out to the pub (this was when we were at our holiday house in Bonnie Doon - yes, I've heard all the jokes!) This is when we were just babies. :eek: Can you imagine doing that nowadays?!
phernegan (sp): my friend used to put some in her toddlers bottle and 1 night a friend stayed over and gave the wrong bottle to her new born :shame: i have heard they have taken the sleeping ingrediants out and now it makes kids hyper? kirsten believe me it still happens these days unfortunately :shame:
maybe1more
22-01-2007, 17:08
Welcome Harvey:wave: - I dont wrap my bub anymore, i stopped when he was about 4 weeks cause he would wriggle out of it and he wouldnt sleep untill he had done so sucessfully. Regarding ebm, i express more then i breastfeed, so i know how much my bubs is getting and so he would learn to take a bottle from a young age.
kristin5
22-01-2007, 17:11
Oh, and I almost forgot, Jeffy I think I have already said that Ryley's head is "wonky" too, but he sleeps with his head tilted to the right. It is facing the wall, so it is not that he is being stimulated on that side (as people have suggested to me previously) - it just seems to be a preference and now he has created this little ridge for himself I think he finds it more comfortable. Paediatrician's have told me not to worry, that it will correct himself as he starts to be able to sit and he will grow hair to cover it anyway.
It doesn't stop me though from forcably moving his head to the other side - it is a waste of time, cos he just moves it right back.
And you can only tell when you are looking at the back of his head from that side (from the front and the back it is not noticeable at all).
Blimey Girls,
Not a hope of catching up today.......
Welcome Harvey - I also stopped wrapping Adam but I always put him into a sleeping bag and he sleeps all night (8pm-5am).
I express now mainly at night as he has dropped his 6pm feed altogether ( DH gives him a Formula bottle at this time and has done since he was little). He used to have bottle and both boobs. if i don't express before bed my boobs touch the ceiling.:laughing: I then feed him first thing in the morn and then he has ebm for next feed. I always warm it first and use avent number 2 teats.
Anyway I think we found a house. Off to fill in forms...
PS: Marion tell SIL to F*** Off. ha ha (i'm sure it means the same in scotland)
Hi again!
Well, I have had my lower body weights workout, a looooong shower, exfoliated, did my toenails, fake tanned, swept the tiles and am still going to have time to straighten my hair :D It's amazing what you can do when you get enough sleep!
di_matt - Good luck and I hope it is the right house for you!
kristin5 - I was starting to worry because I looked it up on the 'net this mornind and I saw pictures of kids with misshapen faces as a result. I am a bit paranoid, I think! Anyway - Sam went to sleep and I turned his head the other way and it's still facing that direction, so I will just keep doing that at night.
harvey123 - WELCOME! :)
beck75 - I hope you can figure out what is going on with poor little Kayley soon; at least to give your boobs some relief!
Becbabe - How are you going back at work? I am thinking of dying my hair dark for a change, so I will probably have blonde regrowth if I do!
Well - Off to feed the mutts and do my hair and then to bed so I can give DH a break tonight. He's organised his mum to mind Sam and is taking me out to tea Saturday night, so I'd better be nice to him!
What a busy busy day you have all had! chatter chatter chatter.
No chance i can remember what isnt on this particular page, so just trust i have read all the posts and made the appropriate concerned/happy/sad faces.
Rian stands out tho - youre taking too much on. You dont have to be superwoman, you dont have to be there for everyone and take care of everything. Right now all this stress and aggravation is making you miss out on the best bits of babyhood.
Marion - do you ever get blank looks when you are really trying to antagonise someone and you use your scottish words?
Welcome Harvey - Abbey loved getting her legs wrapped up close to her body for ages, arms out. Now she sleeps without even a top sheet in this heat is fine. She's gone all starfish!
Re Fenergen (sp?) - mum used to use it on long car trips, but it meant they were up and ready to play at bedtime. Cant drug them 24 hours. All it did was make them drowsy and docile. Much like boobie milk. Do you think mums should market boobie juice as a natural alternative?
Abbey and I have had an interesting couple of days. Yesterday my ex came over to have the "shall we get back together" talk but piked out as soon as he discovered I actually wanted to talk about real issues, not just jump into his arms and forgive him. So that went nowhere. Then I drove him home and came home again. Abbey had had a long nap just after lunch (3+hours) which is really unusual for her. It also meant she didnt go to bed until 10.30 last night. She just wasnt tired. Everything was funny, and the voices in her head musthave been putting on a good show, because she would not be quiet enough to even get sleepy. Blah blah blah ooer blah blah blah squeal, giggle giggle blah.
Then today it was stinking hot even before 10am. Of course my air con is still full of mould and im still fighting with the agency. i called her again and told her machine (dont you hate screeners when youre mad?) that it was unfortunate we couldnt work this out between us, and that i was lodging it with the rta. She called back and told me the owner was coming around this morning with "some mould spray her mother had bought her" and that it wasnt her fault and she was too doing her job...Anyway, owner didnt show, and we were baking. Abbey was naked and sweaty and I was stressed and upset and crying, so of course Abbey got upset and overtired too.
Anyway, if she cant get it cleaned properly tomorrow I will have to call the technician and pay for it myself. I dont have the money but I cant wait for another day like today and I cant take the stress of a fight i cant win.
I also feel really bad that Abbey has about 10 mozzie bites on her. She has a mozzie net at night, but i think they bit her in the car last night. She looks adorably spotty and I worry stupidly that its not mozzies but some other biting bugs that i cant see on the floor and im a bad mother for not protecting her. Yes, i did say it was stupid.
ourfirstbubba
22-01-2007, 21:11
oh my god you girls can chat!!!!!!
Am a bit down tonight,...as I have mentioned I think previously, he has been in hospital for nearly 2 weeks and he is having a back operation tomorrow to remove two pieces of bone that are floating about and pressing on his sciatic nerve and causing him alot of pain....he is 67 years old and I just want him to be ok..the operation will take an hour...so we are all a bit worried..I will be at the hospital tomorrrow with my Mum and my sister and my beautiful MIL will look after Natalia.....Jen, like you, I am blessed with beautiful inlwas, my MIL is like my Mum, she even came in with us when I was giving birth....
Well, firstly, :hugs: to Rian, Kimba and Sue....Rian, I know you live in a prettly small town, I hope that you get the support you need...
Kimba- bless you, and little Jet! Chin up sweetie..and tell your hubby he needs to pull his finger out...
Sue- hope little Kane is ok..and your friends Mum, how awful.....
Kristin5- its so good to see you on here again and I hope beautiful Ryley keeps getting stronger everyday...you must have amazing strength and courage...I get upset when Natalia vomits or if she has a stuffy nose...:gloomy: As for your hubby Glenn, he sounds very similar to my hubby....but he has always been helpful, even before Natalia was born....he works for himself (from home alot) but he always sterilises the bottles for me morning and night, he cooks, takes in washing, feeds and baths Natalia...its not something I have to ask him to do...and come the weekends, he basically takes over so I can have some time for me, whether it be to go and see my Mum and Dad, have lunch with friends or just sit in the garden and read a book....he is my soulmate and I am very lucky....and so are you by the sounds of it....
Marion- ypu make me laugh, I can just hear the accent, I love it!
Harvey- welcome...I am still wrapping Natalia, but have been trying to leave one arm out, then will go to two, then just her body, then nothing soon.....she is a wriggler too!
Jen- dont you love the pampering? I love it when I get in the bath and exfoliate, shave, scrub my feet, paint my nails...ahh, and then finish the night off with a Baileys on ice and a magazine in bed!
Sal- not long to go....I remember our wedding day like it was yesterday..enjoy every moment and dont worry about a thing! I did the whole waxing thing..everything,.goonnnnneeee! OUCH!!!!!!!!!!
Kristen- keep us informed about the test.....
Not much else to report here..today we had hand and foot mould done for Natalia....god bless her, cant wait to see the finsihed product.......well, am off to bed, big day tomorrow, esp for my sweet Dad......I will pop on tomororw night and let you know how he went..
anyway, hugs and kisses girls.....
SalTheGal
22-01-2007, 21:55
Hi everyone,
another one here who can't do personals you grls were chatty today!!!
:hugs: But big hugs being sent to RIAN, KIMBA, OURFIRSTBUBBA (hope your dad is ok), MJELLY (four your stupid AC and dipstick landlords), SUE
:yelclap: for JEFFY, KRISTIN, DI and.......ME! For having happy bubs at the moment.
I will be back tomorrow to post a bit more, off to give Nedd his dreamfeed then get some :sleeping: myself.
Welcome Harvey, great to have you here- now you've said hello don't be a stranger.
I still wrap Nedd, as soon as he is wrapped it is like administering a drug- his eyes get heavy straight away (most times........) I won't stop warpping him till he can put his dummy back in himself:laughing: - otherwise he just pulls it out with his hands and I have to put it back in!
Another one here who has no hope of writing personals...you girls have been very chatty over the last few days. Just a few and I'll be back on tomorrow, I promise.
Rian - I agree with everything Jen said...you need some time for yourself. I wish I was closer to you to give you a hand. Take care of yourself :hugs:
harvey :wave: - Lara is 11 weeks today and I still wrap her. She sleeps so much better when she is wrapped.
Sue - Good to see you back. I hope both you and Kane are doing ok.
The tennis yesterday was great especially the Rodd1ck and Ancic match. Lara was the perfect little angel, she hardly made a sound and slept for a good few hours in dh's arms. I don't think she was that keen on Mauresmo though, she kept on making little sooky noises when she went to serve -lol. We had great seats that were in the shade, but Lara still manages to get sunburnt (and we put sunscreen and a hat on her). I think she was that exhausted after her big day out that she slept from 9pm until 6am (when I had to wake her because my boobs were killing) had a feed and went back down until 9.45am :eek: But the rest of the day was a bit of a fizzer...she hardly slept at all. She has only just gone to sleep after many failed attempts...the first free second I have had to myself today and I had to come on here and check out how you are all going :laughing:
Well I'm off to bed...I hope all your bubs are sleeping well (especially you Jet!!!)
Flower159
22-01-2007, 23:38
Hi Everyone, how are we all? You're all probably in bed just now and I'm still sitting at this dumb pc!! I'm just waiting to make sure that Logan's sleeping and then I'm away to the land of nod as well.
I can't keep up with all you're stuff ladies!! I just love coming on here and having a good read, it's like our very own soap opera!!
Mary - fingers crossed for your dad tomorrow. He'll be in good hands and you just try and relax as he'll be looking to see a smiling daughter when he comes round, not a stressed out bunny. Just try and keep yourself busy while he's in theatre - no clock watching as it'll make you worry even more. Love your piccie - another face to a name!
M-jelly - I don't know what you mean ..... I would never speak Scottish and knowingly antagonise someone (:thumbsup: ) I don't do it intentionally. Honest to god. I don't. No really, I don't :angel: (tip of the day:- Talking fast also works ;) )
Kimba - you are just a poor wee soul. My heart goes out to you. When I'm up with Logan tonight, I'll feel better knowing that I'm not the only one up!! (sorry) Logan's good sleeps are well and truly over and I'm up twice a night again. Must be something in the air as I also had a glass of wine last night, and then had another as the first was so good. Then my darling child decided that he didn't want to sleep! I also have a DP who doesn't lift a hand. I don't like to moan as he works so hard, but I will anyway as he'll never see it (!) He was night shift last night and didn't get any sleep. Fair play to him he ran us about a bit this morning, but he then had 3 hrs in the house to himslef when he could have been sleeping, but he didn't. So he goes to bed at 6, gets up at 7.30 to talk to his mum and dad on the PC and then back in bed for 8.15. This is no problem, but there's not even a goodnight or anything. So I marched right in that room and gave him a row - it doesn't cost anything to say goodnight to your missus. Anyway, he does nothing with Logan either, just the odd cuddle when he feels like it, but he is good with the older two. But the 'I'm tired' that keeps coming out of his mouth is getting very tiresome. So I'm with you Kimba, what are we going to do with them? I'm thinking Jen's idea is a winner. Abandon them for the day and see how they'd cope. The polis (Scottish for police - word of the day, pronounced pole-iss) would be at the door by lunch time with the social workers ..... so maybe not!! Ah well, I hope Jet gives you a wee break tonight. I'm not feeling so bad as I've had a couple of decent nights sleep, but wait until another few days and I'll be moaning about being tired. And I may also have killed my DH!!!!
Pam - that's fab on the weight loss, well done you!
Kristen - sorry, but your 'Kristin-not-TTC' really made me laugh last night!! I hope you get the news that you wanted. Shockarooney though if you are.
Sal - Congrats on building your new house - it's going to be a mega year for you, isn't it! Are you getting nervous? - the countdown is on.......
Rian - Hang on in there. Throw the family out or tell them to get their fingers out and help. Write it in a letter and leave it on the table for them to read if you can't speak to them about it. Explain how your feeling and ask them for help, and if they can't help then ask them to leave as the extra work is not helping you at all. Concentrate on you, I've said it before - if you're not feeling right it affects the kids, so concentrate on getting yourself together and sod the rest of them. Keep you're chin up and have a good old moan at us if it makes you feel better, we don't mind at all.
Sue- I loved the poo story. Not fun at the time, but at least you've a great story to tell!! You must be one strong person to cope with all the health issues with the boys, I can't believe you feel bad for getting upset - you had every right to be.
Jen - Logan has a wonky head. At his 6 week check he was wonky on the right, but I put him on his left that much that he's now wonky over there instead. Don't worry about it - it'll correct itself when they start moving about. (she says with fingers crossed!) I am so impressed that you managed to pamper yourself. I've started straightening my hair again to make me feel better because I've no chance of getting to the hairdressers for the next six years ..... my SIL's been cutting my hair since I got here, but for some reason I think I'm going to have to go to a salon ..... oh, and I paid her for doing my hair, just incase you might have thought that I got it for free. And has the huge hairloss started for you ladies? I'm losing a wig's worth everytime I comb my hair. I'll need a comb over at this rate.
Harvey - welcome :wave: I still wrap Logan as he wont go to sleep if he can wriggle. I wrapped my DDs for months and months (mind you it was freezing where I was!) but I will be wrapping Logan until he is too strong.
Kristen5 - lovely photo, you're wee man's gorgeous.
Di - Wish I could, oh how I wish I could (tell her to f*** off that is!!) but I wouldn't sleep for a week for worrying that she never understood me ..... (lol at my own joke!! sorry!)
OK girls, I have been here for nearly an hour and I'm sure Logan's sleeping now ..... take care and fingers crossed for good sleeps. Ta-ra. xx
Hi All
Hope we all managed some decent sleep last night.
I woke to a little man feverishly trying to suck on my armpit :laughing:. Little rat (well not really) he woke up at 3 not 4.30 and I was having trouble staying awake so I left him to go to sleep where he was....attached to my boob at that stage. Well, we both must have nodded off because at 6.30am I could feel something under my arm, opened my eyes and there he was lol....it was the funniest thing. I moved over a bit and got greeted by the killer early morning smile:D
Once I stopped laughing he was much happier though as he could have a feed. I'm glad we sleep with the air con on when its hot .....yucko otherwise!!!!
Mary : my dad had a similar op about 12 months ago, but they scrapped the inside of his spinal column as it had calcium build up that was squashing 2 discs and his sciatica...he is sooooooooooo good now and has dropped loads of weight that he had put on because he couldn't move around.
Pooey I have a really reeeeeeeeaaaaaalllllllllllllyyyyyy bad smell wafting my way from a cretain little man who is in his bouncer watching old mcdonalds farm on ABC...from the sly look on his face I don't think I wanna unwrap him. Is it being a bad mother to make him wait until his dad gets home at 2:rolleyes: ????? He always does it in the morning for me. But then again he hasn't been for two days. I thought this was weird but I read an article yesterday that said breastfed babies as they get older only go once every 2 or 3 days. ( normally its every 2nd day) so I don't feel so bad.
Oh, sorry I have to go and remove the source of this odour before my breakky pays me a visit lol. have a great day all
SalTheGal
23-01-2007, 08:06
Morning all,
Three sleeps to go :smiliedance: (if you can call a few hours here and there broken up: sleep:mad: )
Nedd was a poo head last night, same old same old!! Awake at 10.30, 2 until I fed him at 3.30, 6am.
Thanks for emailing the article Di, it was an interesting read, but would love to hear everyone elses thoughts- it actually made me feel guilty for not feeding/rocking to sleep in my arms. I am one who has successfully promoted the self settle, and although I am a FIRM believer in responding to Nedd as soon as he needs it- it doesn't always inlvove picking him up or feeding him. I am also one for routines within reason- and kinda feel bad after reading the article for this too.....isn't it interesting that it is really hard to find balanced articles?!?!
Or maybe I am just being over sensitive this morning!!
I am off for a facial this morning (where I will most likely fall alseep and snore the place out- they have rooms that don't have full walls so you can hear what is going on in the while place!), mum is looking after Nedd and when I come home she will hang around so I can go back to bed for some more :sleeping: . The rate we are travelling here I am going to be rat sh!t by fri, which is really upsetting me- I know it will be such a long day and I am seriuosly sleep deprived at the moment.
Will be popping on over the next few days but won't have much time for posts, so please excuse my lack of personals.
Can't remember who it was that said it but I second the oohing and aahing, and tut-tutting, shaking head, OMG'ing etc etc in all the correct places- know that I am keeping up with you all and do care, even with the lack of personal concern!!!
Oh just realised- we are going to be heading to the gold coast in a couple of weeks for our "honeymoon" (if you can call it that with a baby in tow!), as much as I woulld love to meet with you GC ladies- don't know if DF would appreciate it on our honeymoon- but if you have any suggestions of things to do, places to go with baby in tow let me know, and suggestions greatly appreciated!!
Well must be off, got thankyou cards to put together.
Happy day everyone!
:wave: Sal
Last night Jet slept from 8.45 till 1.45 then from 2 till 5 then came to bed with me till 7. HOORAY. But it came at a price - yesterday he didn't sleep from 1.30pm till he finally went down at 8.45 (not for lack of trying on and off ALL AFTERNOON on my and DHs part). So Jet and I were both a howling mess by the time he went to sleep, I think he just exhausted himself in the end.
I was determined to be happy today, since I had some sleep - but he's been whinging and grizzling the whole time he's been awake today. Refusing the breast again too, which just kills me (and stresses me because I know it will dry me up if he doesn't drink), but he won't drink a bottle either without fussing and fighting. So I don't know if he's grumpy from hunger or grumpy because he's NOT hungry. And, still refusing sleep, even when I rock him in my arms he fights me and screams, and it rips me apart.
It feels like every interaction I have with him is such a battle at the moment, I know I'm exhausted and stressed which makes it worse but there's hardly any pleasure in anything that we do together since it seems he even hates breastfeeding now. Maybe he just hates ME. :( He doesn't enjoy anything ATM - he whinges in his rocker, his swing, his playgym, nappy free time, you name it, it seems he wants to be held which is fair enough, but even when we hold him he still whinges. The only time we're both at peace is when he's asleep, but even if I can manage to get him down (which takes an hour long heartrending battle IF it works) he only catnaps for 40min at best, won't resettle, and is then even crankier because he's still tired...
I HATE IT BEING THIS WAY because I love him so much but I don't know what's wrong or what else I can do to make him happy :gloomy:
I am taking him to a paed as soon as I can get an appointment because I'm sick of being told by GP and EC nurse 'this is normal' when he whinges all day, cries for at least 3 hours a day every day, won't sleep, now won't eat, and has been like this for more than 2 weeks now. I'm sure it's very much related to overtiredness, but I want to know what it is that keeps waking him/ preventing him from sleeping, and why he wakes cranky even when he's had a sleep. The Losec is also apparently doing nothing, he's still refluxing and still seems to have gut pain after feeds.
Sorry to be such a downer and thank you for being here, you guys are the only support I have (although I really 'went it' at DH yesterday and he was a lot better last night).
I will come back for personals after I go and have a good cry in the shower.
maybe1more
23-01-2007, 10:08
Di- great article, especially cause myself and my df have diffrent views on settling Caleb, after my df feeds bub he puts him down to sleep on his own, he said bubs needs to know when its sleep time and if he does this Caleb will be a better sleeper. I like to soothe him to sleep nice and calmly with either gentle rocking or by breastfeeding him till he falls asleep, my df says Caleb will get too use to the breast and when i stop breastfeeding he will he harder to settle.Ido understand were his coming from, but i feel guilty when Caleb goes to sleep by himself, plus i love the extra cuddles:D
Oh Kimba - it is never ending for you - I actually think Kayley might be a bit of the same - both starting around the 12 week mark so I am not sure if it is a common thing! Kayley has taken to waking up 2 - 3 times a night again which is a pain but at least she went back to bed until 9am.
I got a paed appointment but the earliest I could get in was 13th February but the paed rang me last night which was terrific. He has suggested that I try the Karicare thickener before feeds 4 times a day and then if still trouble try 1ml of Mylanta when she is having problems so I will se how that will go. She has been better the last 24 hours but she is grizzly and I have to keep her up and carry her around all day which is exhausting!
As for the sleep - whatever gets her to sleep is good enough for me at the moment and I will deal with the consequences later on!! During the day I can usually get her to sleep by walking/rocking and at night it seems to be feeding to sleep for the first one then she self settles after her other feeds - I have decided if it works it works!! Talking to many others I notice that very few people manage all the 'right things' anyway and there kids turn out OK!!
Welcome Harvey - I stopped wrapping Kayley early on as she wouldnt sleep until she had wriggled out. I put her in a sleeping bag at night and sometimes with a blanky on top if it is cool and during the day she often just goes down as she is - although I am just starting to wrap her again (arms out) to see if this helps the day sleeps at all.
One side effect from her being sick is I think she exhausts herself by the arvo and is going down for a decent sleep - I hope that continues!
Sal - I wouldnt feel guilty, you are right most articles are biased one way or the other. Whatever works for you just do it and bugger everyone else!!
LOL about the poo Di - I would love to leave them for DH (I actually sent him a picture of a particulaly bad one that leaked everywhere one day saying would you really prefer to be home!!) Kayley has a poo every 1 - 3 days but I find if it has been a while she gets grizzly until it comes out. When she poos she does it well - normally meaning change of clother for her (and often for me and the couch too). I now run to the change table when i here one!
Mary - :fingerscrossed: everything goes well for your dad.
Sal - I am jealous about the facial - DH gave me money for xmas to spend on stuff for me so I will have to book one in soon - my skin looks terrible and I feel like I am looking so old!
DH told me he thought I had a bit of depression last night. I appreciate him looking out for me but feel like just because things have been tough for the last few days and I have been a bit upset, it doesnt mean I automatically have post natal depression (a bit like when you get upset normally it has to be PMT) - I think it is easier for him to put it in a box rather than realising I am just having a tough time!! Anyway I cant complain too much - he does frustrate me as I think he can do more sometimes but he is supportive, does clean and will take her whenever I ask him too.
Jeffy - dinner on Saturday night sounds great. I might do the same thing soon - I just dont want to kill the routine too much so if I wait until after her bath, feed, read routine it is around 9pm - that is before she is actually asleep - maybe lunch time will be easier!
Anyway I better go as I want to go to the shops and I have to organise myself while she is asleep....oh bugger I think I have taken too long and she is waking up!!
Best wishes to all of you!
OK I'm back and feeling a bit better, albeit a little sheepish about losing it earlier :o
Welcome Harvey! I'm still wrapping Jet but in a bit of a dilemma because he's getting so hot at night I'm sure it wakes him. Then again he wakes if he's unwrapped so what can you do LOL.
Jenny - I used to love feeding and cuddling Jet to sleep when he was really little, he rarely feeds to sleep in the day now, but it makes the night feeds almost worth getting up for (maybe not 4 times a night though LOL). I'd love to soothe him to sleep gently, but right now as soon as he realises sleep is on the agenda, the battle is on! :eek:
Sal - oh a facial how lovely. And 3 sleeps to go how exciting!!! Sorry Nedd was a poo head last night I hope he sleeps better tonight. I agree about not enough balanced articles out there - while I enjoyed this one it definitely is heavily pro-'attachment parenting'. I find a lot of the breastfeeding-advocating articles to be the same - I am all for BFing exclusively if you can, but when for bub's sake you just can't do it, like I couldn't, it makes you feel cr@ppy and guilty to read of the 'evils' of bottle/ FFing!
di - hope the poo-nami wasn't too bad, despite the smell. Re: adam sucking your armpit, that's so cute!!!! Normally Jet is a great little morning bed-feeder and snuggler, often he'll do a feed-sleep for an hour on one side then again on the other side, which buys me 2 more hours in bed YAY. This morning though when I offered the other side he refused and got cranky, which was a shock, not exactly the morning :angel: light-up I'm used to! Ah well.
marion - sorry your DH is a poo head too. I would gladly leave Jet with mine for a day, except I would be worrying about him all day (Jet, not DH), and would come home to a shrieking overstimulated baby who wouldn't sleep that night, like I have on the other occasions I've left him with DH for a couple of hours. Mind you bub's a bit like that anyway at the moment, so maybe it's a good time to do it LOL.
Sare - glad you had a great time at the tennis and that Lara behaved herself so well! I can just imagine trying to get Jet to be quiet for so long, yeah right! we'd be kicked out for sure :laughing:. How do these babies manage to get burnt even with sunscreen and a hat on? Poor little buggers.
Mary - big hugs, Hope that the surgery went well and that your Dad is doing OK. Thank you for your advice about the sleeping and settling!
M_Jelly - what a stinker about the AC even with ours on here it's bad enough I can't imagine how you and Abbey are coping without it. That's one thing I always hated about renting was having to deal with cr@p like that. Poor Abbey with her spots. Can you put calamine on babies does anyone know?
Jen - way to go on the pampering, I am going to take your advice and leave bub with DH and go to a Day Spa I think. I deserve it. I also took your lead and gave DH what for yesterday afternoon when I hadn't slept for 20 hours and bub was crying and I was cracking it, and he asked me 'what's wrong'. What do you think is wrong!!! LOL. Needless to say he cooked dinner for me last night and helped feed and settle Jet and I am hoping it wasn't just a temporary thing to shut me up at the time.
Beck - sorry you're still having hassles with Kayley. had to LOL at the photo of the poo I used to send poo photos to DH too, especially the big poo-nami ones!
PS: Marion tell SIL to F*** Off. ha ha (i'm sure it means the same in scotland)
:laughing: good one Di! :laughing:
Okay another quick one from me. I'm off to take Eloise to the drs. She's woke up the last couple of mornings complaining of a sore throat and she's been coughing during the night for the last couple of weeks so we're off to see what's going on.
Mary - I'm sorry I forgot to wish your dad all the best for today. Thinking of you.
Kimba - :hugs: Good on you for being positive, but it's ok to cry - you're only human. I think the media has a lot to pay for when we're given all these images of the perfect mum who has the perfect baby and the perfect house and a career. In reality those women probably have a nanny, housekeeper, personal trainer and the rest. It will get better eventually. Good luck with the paed.
Sal - :smiliedance: 3 days...you must be so excited and to top it all off you get a holiday too :D
I'll be back later for more personals...no doubt it will be a mega post with all I have to catch up on.
just a quicky as trying to feed
sal in re to where to go on gold coast: well it depends wat suburb you are in , whether you have a car and the excitment level.out of theme parks dreamworld is mainly about the rides where as movie world and sea world have some good shows to drag bub to
surfers paradise sucks
di recommends outback spectacular. its fairly new si i havent been there myself. its dinner plus show
maybe do a day trip to south strabbroke island to a reort calledtipplers
as for beaches it depends where you staying.for surf beaches we like the spit and currumbins pretty
we like beaches on the broadwater (without waves) theres one around from us on the esplanade hope island. or howard st runaway bay
if you like out in the boat give us a call lol
or my house is pretty fun:D
theres lots of tacky wat to do brochurres you can grab from every where hope you fun:smiliedance:
Flower159
23-01-2007, 12:26
Hello Everyone.
Well, I'm just up out of my bed because Logan, as predicted was up three times. Ah well, it's hot and he's still a bit all over the place with me being uptight, so we'll see how he goes over the next couple of days. DH is off tomorrow, so I think I'll make him do some stuff for me and see if that helps. Although even if he does stuff I hover about to make sure that he does it right - does anyone else do this??! At least I managed a mid-morning nap and the girls have been so good for me that I feel I am blessed today ..... Looking back on my post last night I was in a wierd mood, must be the hot weather!
Kimba - oh dear, it's just not getting any easier for you, is it. I've no words of wisdom (I think you've tried it all anyway!) but just hang in there and Jet will settle down eventually. That's good that you've made the paed appointment hopefully you wont have to wait too long. Good on you for having a go at DH, do you feel better for it? If he starts helping out even just a little bit you might feel a bit better, so long as he's a bit more understanding for you then you wont feel mad at him as well - which doesn't help.
Sare - hope Eloise is OK, let us know how she goes. Poor little Lara on the sunburn, does it affect her - is she crying or anything with it?
Beck - hope the thickener helps a bit for you and Kayley. I'm with you, whatever gets them to sleep is OK with me!
Di - how was the nappy? Logan hasn't been for three days and I'm just waiting for it ....in fact, I'm hoping he waits until after 7 when DH is home!! (good idea!) Him sooking on your armpit is so cute, he's an adorable wee thing and I always smile at his photo when you post! (why do smiling photo's make you smile?)
Anyway I'll be off and I hope you have a good day. Take care.Marionxx
Well i'll be! The owner actually managed to clean up the mould to my satisfaction, and I gave it a good going over with Glen20 afterwards anyway. So Abbey and I are holed up in the bedroom being nice and cool. She's so happy about it that after working herself up this morning about being hot, tired and grumpy, we had a lie down feed at 10.30 after I turned it on, and she's still asleep! I wonder if i will pay for this me-time later?
Its a pity I had put a terry cloth nappy on her just before she went down. I didnt expect her to sleep more than the usual 20 minutes so she is going to wake up nice and wet. I'm also waiting on a poo-splosion, havent had a satisfactory one for about 4 days.
Ooer, my spotty princess is thrashing in her sleep, must be time to dry her poor soaking bottom. At least it should have kept her cool!
Hi everyone!
Ella was much better last night thank the Lord. I have abandoned the earlier bedtime entirely! Last night she was gearing up to have a good howl as soon as she realised it was bedtime, but then I started singing to her (which I usually don't do just before putting her down as i thought it stimulated her) but it just kind of distracted her... she looked at me with wide blue eyes and then the slow blinks started.. and then to bed! And we're back to only 2 15min feeds at night which is lovely.
I also would just like to say a bit about how good DP is being. When i walk in at lunch, he hands Ella to me for a feed, then goes and makes me lunch, packs me an afternoon snack and my bottles for the afternoon EBM, then has a coffee and his own lunch! He is so lovely Valentine and even if Ella has been screaming all morning, still seems to cope better than I would!
harvey, welcome :wave: Good luck keeping up with this thread we are sooo talkative :ecomcity: I still wrap Ella as otherwise she startles and whacks herself in the face after I put her down at night. But DP doesn't wrap her for naps. Ella has 2 EBM's a day from an Avent bottle with a newborn teat - she gulps too much with the older ones. to get her to take it initially we put a few drops of milk on the outside of the teat.
Sare, hope Eloise is ok. Is it better when they can tell you what's wrong or worse??
Kimba you are an Amazing mum to be able to stay so positive when things are tough. Don't know if it helps, but Ella had a horror 1.5wks around 12 wks, screamed and fought before bed (with lots of gulping, grimacing and swallowing so i thought it was reflux), then would wake every hour after midnight. She grew out of it into her best sleep pattern yet. But it's probably good that you're going to a paed, at least you will be able to talk about it and rule out anything wrong.
I'm with you beck about the sleep - whatever works til they're in a good sleep pattern. You can worry about it then.
Sal re the article: I've decided that you just make up your mind which parenting approach to take, then just believe the bits of literature that back you up and make you feel good! I'm yet to read a book that I agree with start to finish, but I just use the bits that seem like they will work for us. But having said that I do like Pinky Mckay.
Also good luck for the big event!!
Mary best wishes to your Dad. Hope everything goes well.
Di hope the poo wasn't too gargantuan.. Ella used to go every 4 days and we had serious containment issues! A lady at my ABA group said her boy used to poo on Sundays at 10 :D apparently they can go for up to 8 days!!
Jeffy I am loving being back at work. I feel like my life is returning to normal a bit! It's good to feel like I have professional value again. But I don't think it would be so great if DP and ella weren't coping so well!
Krisitin I'm another one who likes my space in bed.. DP is a big cuddler but I usually end up pushing him gently away so I can sleep! it's nice for a while but then the snoring in the ear isn't so romantic.. or that sticky feeling in summer when you're sweated together...
Back on because Jet is sleeping and DH is making dinner! :smiliedance:
Well my little (32 year old, 6'6") brother's patented 'Sleeper Hold' TM has been working on Jet today to get him to sleep with less fighting and fuss than anything else - by 'less' I mean he still arches and cries and fights it, even in my arms, but it only takes 10-15min not 45. The Sleeper Hold involves holding bub across your chest, his front to your chest, his nose near your armpit and one arm wrapped around his shoulders and one around his legs/ bum, holding him real close and tight so he can't wriggle too much.
Have to put him down fully asleep though, which ordinarily I don't like doing coz if he stirs when he moves through sleep phases he'll freak out, wake, and cry. Oh for the days when I could put him down sleepy and awake, and off he'd go. BUT anything is better than nothing right now, the main thing is to get my boy sufficiently rested and happy, before I start trying to re-teach him to settle any other way.
Thanks :hugs: for saying I'm positive, when I thought I was being a complete not-coping whinger :o
Sare - hope Eloise is OK!
Bec - glad that Ella was better last night and it's great that you are happy being back at work, it makes me feel a bit better about when I have to return...
m_jelly - YAY on aircon. Isn't it always the way when you don't nappy them up for a long sleep they go and sleep for hours. Hmmm there's a thought maybe I should try that on Jet LOL.
sue - how's Kane doing today? I like beaches without waves too, they're great for when you just want to have a bit of a float...also good for kids which is a biggie for me now!
Marion - glad you got your nap today! YES I do the hover when DH is doing stuff that's why I can't rest if I'm here and he's looking after Jet, I have to go out altogether. And I forgot to mention YES I am losing hair by the handful :eek: it's really disappointing because it was so lovely and thick by the time I had Jet. I'm thinking of going short and messy again, since it looks so sad now.
And yes I do feel better for having a go at DH. Especially since this time he finally seemed to get the message that I need more help and that there are a lot of little things he can do to help me, and more importantly take care of ME, while I focus on Jet (since I'm the one with boobs LOL). mind you I have to keep extravagantly praising the hell out of the dinner he made last night, just so he does it again!
Hi again,
Poor little Eloise has a throat infection so she's on antibiotics. She's one warped kid...she actually likes having medicine and gets a bit miffed when I give Lara the Brauer colic relief and she doesn't get any. The dr said he's surprised she hasn't been more irritable because her throat is red raw. Poor little :angel: .
Lara's sunburn has almost gone. Her right eye is still a little red. dh and I feel really guilty, but we really did all we could to avoid her getting sunburnt and it still happened. She is finally having a nap...hopefully it lasts for a while.
Kimba - You always put a positive spin on what you are going through. I think that's great. I'm glad your dh is being more supportive now you've given him a stern talking to? Tell your dh the bub hub girls are happy that he's finally taking care of you and pulling his weight.
Bec - Well done on going back to work. I have great admiration for anyone who does this parenting caper and works. I hope Ella settled after her bad yesterday. It's awful when they're out of sorts. At least at Eloise can tell me what's wrong when she's upset or sick, it's take a guess with Lara.
m_jelly - About bl00dy time!!! Hope the poo-splosion isn't too bad.
Marion - Good on you for getting a nap. I just fell asleep while I was feeding Lara before. That was until Eloise woke up screaming for water, so I had to put Lara down and naturally she started screaming too. To top it off I could feel a headache coming on, so I rang dh and said I need you to come home. He was so good and said I'm leaving now. I managed to settle Lara, so told him just to come home as soon as he had finished for the day (was only 30 mins later) and he said he'd leave in 15...God bless his little cotton socks.
Kristin - I'm with you on lucking out on the dh stakes. I've hardly done any housework since I had Lara. He helps out with the cooking and is great with Eloise when I'm busy with Lara.
Have a great day at the tennis tomorrow. I bet you have a ball.
Oh...yep, we're in a new estate (If you can call it new when we've been here for 4.5yrs).
I don't buy into the feed play sleep thing - Ryley has settled himself into his own routine which is sleep play feed, except at night of course where he doesn't play at all. And he always wakes up smiling (which is just adorable). What difference does it make if they feed themselves to sleep? Whatever works, I reckon!
I totally agree. Ryley's routine sounds a lot like what's going on with Lara.
Beck - I hope the thickener works for you. Did you manage to get to the shops? :fingerscrossed: Kayley sleeps well for you tonight.
Di - I'd love a read of that article too if that's ok. I'll pm you my e-mail address. I think I told you how cute that photo of Adam is...I just love it.
Jen - You're amazing...where do you find the time to do all that stuff you did last night? I'm dying to give myself a pedicure...been waiting for about 11 weeks now (there's a correlation between being able to see my feet now and that time frame - lol). One day....btw I love the cat avatar. I am going to go on the crosstariner when dh gets home from work...I so want some me time. I have to tell you that reading all your posts about exercise has motivated me... I just have to get off my lazy a$$. :o
Mary - How did your dad go today?
Jenny - I wish Eloise had a cousin her age to keep her entertained. Glad it worked for your ds...I don't envy the mess though.
Sue - How's everything going with Kane? Sorry to hear about your friends mum.
Sal - Hope you enjoyed your facial. I bet you wouldn't be the first person to fall asleep while having one. Good on your mum for giving you some time to catch up on some well needed sleep.
Rian - How are you going today?
To anyone I've remembered everyone, sorry if I have missed anyone.
Take care...
GeorgiaAnne
23-01-2007, 17:12
Cripes, you've all been typing beavers the last few days haven't you? I don't think I can do all personalsbut here goes....
Kimba - I think you're very strong and positive too, judging from your bub-hub voice, iykwim. I like the sound of your bro's tm, keep us updated! My mum's tm is a very slow, soft pat on the tummy, side or back when she's wrapped, the pats are about 4 seconds apart. I find the slowness and gentleness of it really calms Sophia and myself and she falls asleep. Young man Jet really does have a mind of his own doesn't he? Lucky he's so cute.
Bec - aren't you lucky with your dp being such a hun, I know what you mean though about the sticky cuddles, FOUL!
M_jelly - Hurray about the aircon. Abbey looks so cute in your new avatar!
Marion - Sophia didn't go once for 10 days and it was very special. DH wouldn't go anywhere near it! We have a deal anyway which will come into effect at a later date whereby I do all nappies and he will be the go to man for all vomiting illnesses as I have a huge vomit phobia (just wring the word vomit makes me feel nauseous)
Suemp - :wave: so glad that Kane is doing well, we were all very worried for you
Sare - Best thoughts for little Eloise, I hope it is something easily fixed.
Beck - Isn't that nice of the Dr to phone you? That would give me a good feeling about the Dr as they can be such pompous old farts
firstbub - It is so lovely having those cuddles and they don't stay babies for long so I say enjoy it while you can!
Sal - we'll miss you, you'd better find an internet cafe somewhere and say hi! I really do hope you have a magical day. I wasn't that excited about getting married (not that I didn't want to) but it wasn't essential for me but i LOVED the day. It is very special having all those people in the one place. It is my 30th on Friday also which is a bit:crying: because i still feel 19!!
Di - ha ha on Marion's sil, I like your style! Adam is such a cutie mummies boy I love it aren't you lucky with all those cuddles. I love having Sophia in bed as well but sometimes I wake up, even when shes in her own cot and think she is lost under the covers and I get frantic. I woke up dh the other night in such a panic and she was safe and sound in her own bed. I did feel a bit mental, does anyone else get that half asleep panic?
Kristin - where are you?? are you :bfp:I tried scrolling through the posts and can't see if you've said so. I hope you're feeling ok, whatever the outcome.
We had a lovely quiet weekend with dh with some early morning swims at the beach, the water is sooooo cold at the mo though, it took my breath away! We have also been house hunting, with no luck. We saw one place that we liked, with the perfect everything but it has steps everywhere, too many to block without being on an obstacle course every time we leave the house.
Anyway, better go to my grizzly little lady. It will be so much easier when this heat dissipates, it makes me grouchy as well.
Lots of love to all, especially any ratty babies
GeorgiaAnne
23-01-2007, 17:16
Hi sare, you must have been posting at the same time, glad you've got eloise sorted.
Also big:hugs: to you Rian, you are doing an amazing job with all those kids, we all think you're fab.
Mary - I hope your dad copes with the op well.
i have to pop on here a few times a day to read up or i fall behind lol
as far as kane goes he sees paed on the 30th. ill let you know more than. which reminds me kimba did you know you need a gp referral to see a paed?
quick personals as i have to cook and bathe kids
sorry to hear about eloise. it sucks being sick any time but in this heat. yuck
and kimba as for settling have you tried a dummy. kane did not like them but i soon taught him lol. i think they are a great invention re of wat anyone else says. i taught k by rubbing his jaw and making movements with my mouth in front of him. also have you tried him on farex or the heinz tins for 4-6 month olds. i know i go on about solids but at this age alot of babies are ready for it. even my dentist today (who ob a smart lady to be a dentist) wen i told her kane turned 3 months today goes oh he must be near ready for solids. as he is a big boy.
as much as i bag dp he worked paving today in the hottest day in the world. god love him
tc all
Afternoon All,
Had a real never ending day today.....but it's all been good.
My precious little, very good looking son ( well I think so and am thrilled Marion & Sare agree :thumbsup: thanks girls. As they say there is only one perfect baby in the world & every mother has it).has been a wonder today. We had to go to the shops for DSS and find him clothes to wear as he doesn't own any LOL. But anyway we did that (4 shops, in & out of the car). Then we went and put in our application for the house.
Which we got. The lady said she had already approved us as Adam was a deal clincher ( I knew having kids would come in handy one day :D ). Then we had to go to the supermarket.
All up we gone over 5 hours and he slept the whole time. I hope this doesn't wreck his sleep tonight as he rarely sleeps during the day.
But anyway the upshot is DSS has clothes, we have a house large enough for all 7 of us to fit in comfortably and I have the happiest, smiliest,most heart warming little treasure ever put on the earth.
To anyone having troubles I think I will travel around the country to meet you all and hope Adam can have a baby to baby chat and help your little ones sleep. He might be able to be a Dr Dootlittle for babies ha ha ha ha ha ha.
I think I better go and leave you good people in peace before someone whacks me through the screen he he
Have a good night.
PS: Kimba I think you have discovered what I affectionately call "the strangle hold". I have put Adam to sleep in the same way since he was 6 weeks old. Funny thing though it doesn't work for anyone else only me. I call it tough love as I hold him firm but I talk to him as lovingly as I can. (Which isn't hard). Maybe this will be a break through. :fingerscrossed: I hope so for your sake.
diesal444
23-01-2007, 18:02
HI EVERYONE!!!:wave:
Oh my what a chatty group we are!!!
I have had such a terrific week coz my mum and neice flew down to melbourne to stay with me. It was wonderful, was really sad to see them go home.
I agree that babies arent robots. We cant have these little human beings with personalities conforming to what a book/health professional says. Its so unrealistic to expect babies to do what we want them to do or what a book says they are supposed to do. As long as they have love and security I dont think babies give a stuff about feed/play/sleep.. routines... self settling...breastfeeding/formula feeding...cloth/disposable nappies. There is too much pressure to do what is EXPECTED.
Everyone is doing a terrific job and its the hardest job in the world.:yes:
Briefly on the home front. I went to see a psychologist and she seems to think that i dont have PND at all. Just a longer time then usual adapting to the life changes motherhood brings. So thats good news i guess.
To everyone who's babies are being little buggers, i hope tomorrow brings a better day and a fantastic sleep tonight!!!
Take care everyone... Sweet dreams :sleeping:
Hi all. A non-eventful day with a sooky cuddly baby (which is the way I love it!) Took off to Bunnings to look at plants and paint (yay) but at least it got us out of the house.
m_jelly - Glad to hear they FINALLY fixed up your aircon. Don't worry about the mossie bites. Wait until they start falling out of trees etc!
Mary - How did the operation go? I'm expecting to hear it was a complete success! My MIL came in with us for the birth as well (she held my leg up for me! :o ) Hmmm...haven't had Baileys for a while...
Sare - I watched most of the the Rodd1ck and Ancic match. It was fantastic! I hope your girls are feeling okay. Re: the pampering; I wait until bub goes to sleep and then run around like a mad chook for a couple of hours. I'm having the night off exercise and am having wine and pasta instead :o I do it because it makes me feel better. It's hard to fit it in but it is worth it for the 'me time' factor.
Marion - Don't worry; I go to Just Cuts twice a year for my hair. Nothing but the best for me :D
Sal - How did the facial and day of decandence go? Good luck for the big day!
Georgia - I sometimes still wake thinking the baby monitor isn't working and get up to check on Sam only to find him dead to the world.
Kimba - All I can say is :hugs: My DH used to be well behaved for a day or two and then revert to his old habits. I found the key is not to thank him every time he does something because then he thinks he is doing you a favour. He says "I took the rubbish out." I reply with "Oh."
Beck - My DH thought I had depression as well! I set him straight and said "No; I'm just pi**ed with you and need more help." Re: Saturday night; my MIL is coming over to watch Sam so he can keep to his normal bedtime routine. She is very involed in his little life and is going to work part-time once he goes to school so we don't have to put him in care at all. We'll all take it in turns to take him to/from school. What a legend she is!
Bec - I think I will feel the same being back at work. I am looking forward to it. Your DP deserves a present! What a legend!
Di - Sounds like you had the perfect day. I want one!
Mary-anne - I hope you don't have PND but you know yourself better than anyone, so be kind to yourself.
(PHEW!) We do talk a lot! I don't like to leave anyone out but if I have, sorry and I did read it all - promise~!
Now to find some more wine.....
My goodness.... Didn't sign on for a few days and had 8 pages to catch up on!! So sorry for not many personals but I have read everything! Optus decided on 17th January to "upgrade" our Internet connection and have nothing but problems since. Pges are taking ages to download and sometimes I have to do it a few times before I see the page...
Sal, not long to go now!!! How excited / nervous you must be. Have fun on the Gold Coast.
Pam, good work on the weight loss!!! Well done. that deserves a scone, jam and cream on Thursday!!!
Jen, hope you found some wine!! Yummo - love the glass or two....
Kimba, I don't know what to say to help you. I am thinking of you always...
Di, well done on the house hunting and finding a place to fit you all.
Georgia, heard the water was about 17 degrees in!! YIKES too cold for me. Our pool was a nice 27 degrees and absolutely beautiful. Dh didn't come in as he has a sore foot and the water aggrevates it so he looked after Jordan while I sailed by!!!
Kirsten - :eek: have you done a test yet?
Rian, :hugs: to you. I can't begin to know what you are going through. Talking about it can sometimes help.
Sare, how is Eloise going with her toilet training?
Well things are going okay here. the last 2 days Jordan has been out of sorts. I have an incling that it is his teeth giving him a few problems as he is biting on EVERYTHING. I gave him a dose of panadol a minute a go to try to help him. We start Gymbaroo next Friday so can't wait for that. At Mothersgroup on Monday they had an excerise ball for bubs to use for tummytime. Jordan loved it. You place them on their belly and hold their hips. You then move the ball front ways, back ways and sideways. It also helps them with their balance. The ball gets them off the ground and up where they can see the whole world!! Might be an idea for those who hate tummy time.
Me, I'm okay. Had a bit of PMT earlier on in the week and DH copped the lot - poor thing, I feel terrible as he is so good and does so much for me and Jordan and now I feel like a total b!%ch. I think my PMT is worse since I had Jordan! So no :bfp: this month....
Does anyone know of any good kitchen tea games? I have a few but need some ideas and with the internet being so slow it is taking so long to search for sites.
Anyway I am looking forward to meeting the Sydney Mums on Thursday!!! If anyone is in Sydney on Thursday and wants to join us just let me know and I will PM you the details!
Well ladies, hopefully the Internet will be good to me and won't have so much to catch up on!!
Sleep vibes to you all.
Lucy
:D
ourfirstbubba
23-01-2007, 21:28
hi girls
well I am absolutely exhausted tonight.....a big thank you to all of you for your kind words for my Dad.....the operation went well, thank God....
I am emotionally drained today and cried a bit...my Mum, sister and I were at the hospital most of the day, and whilst I tried really hard to stay calm and positive, I kind of lost it when they were wheeling him away to theatre.....the nurses were all so lovely though...they operated on him at 3pm and he was back up in his room at 6pm...so :fingerscrossed: he recovers well...again, thanks for thinking of me today, you girls are all truly beautiful...
Kimba- I think of you every morning when I wake up and wonder what sort of a night you have had with beautiful Jet...I am glad that you have an appt with the paed
Sare- sorry about little Eloise, and poor little Lara with the sunburn...poor bubs, no matter how much we try and protect them.....
Beck75- :hugs: to you and Kayley
m_jelly- finally some success with the air con! glad Abbey slept better, little munchkin
Marion- you crack me up, your posts make me smile....
diesal444- glad you saw the psych, just take careof you.....motherhood is hard, and we are all doing fantastically
di_matt- :smiliedance: for getting the house...
Georgia- we have an Angelcare monitor which monitors Natalias breathing and I still wake up in a panic if I havent heard her in a few hours....I have always been like this, when I was first married, my DH is a very quiet sleeper, so I would just kinda shake him..until one night he got ****ty and told me to go to sleep and that he was still alive......so yes, you are not alone there!
well girls, hope I havent forgotten anyone, if I have sorry, but my eyes are starting to droop and the migraine tablets I took a few hours ago have really started to kick in....hugs and kisses to all of our babies...
one more thing, I dont think there is any one right way with parenting..each person is different and what might work for some wont work for others....Natalia does self settle most of the time but there are times when she is just overtired, I have no problem in feeding her to sleep, whatever makes her happy...they are little for such a short time...
xoxoxo
~Kristin~
23-01-2007, 21:46
I can't win!? I typed a big post on Word so I wouldn't lose it then accidently closed it before I copied it over......:banghead: I'm too tired to rewrite it sorry, will just have to start fresh from now.
Ourfirstbubba - we have a Reassurance Monitor from Tommy Tippee, same thing as the Angel Monitor, they are great aren't they! Makes it so much easier for me to sleep at night knowing she is ok. It has gone off a few times, its a shock to wake up to an alarm but I'd much rather that then not waking at all and something being wrong.
I did test - :bfn: THANK WHATEVER DEITY YOU PRAY TO! I have decided to start using my Maybve Baby again to track when I'm ovulating as my period still hasn't returned so I have no idea when I might be.
I do have a shocker of a head cold - feel miserable, perhaps thats why I've been feeling sooooooooo seedy.
On that note, I'm going to crawl into bed now - night all!
Hey Mary; so glad your Dad is back in his room and the operation went well. My Dad had cancer and had operation after operation and it is hard to see them being taken away. :fingerscrossed: for a speedy recovery. Look after yourself as well. Remember he has nurses and the like looking after him... you don't.
Kirsten :smiliedance: for the :bfn: (it seems thats what you were hoping for!!!).
Well is raining here in Sydney tonight and there is a wonderful breeze... but I can't sleep... Have been watching the tennis then I started to think of things for the Kitchen Tea and now my brain is wide awake. Thought I would pop on here for a minute or two to catch up on stuff.
Hope you are all sleep well.
Lucy
Abbey and I had such a nice day in the air con yesterday. She had 2 big sleeps (yes 2!) and was a happy little monkey, chatting away to herself. Last night wasnt quite so restful though. She is determined to sleep on her tummy now that she can roll over even when sleepy, so over she goes as soon as i put her in. Thats all well and good, but she isnt even comfortable in that position! She fidgets around all night and makes complainey noises after a while, threatening to wake up and start playing silly buggers again. So i push her back on to her side and she sleeps soundly for a little longer, and then back on her tummy and squirmy again! She gets propped so she cant roll, but she so squirmy she manages it eventually. I KNOW she is smart, I just wish she would use her cleverness for good, not evil.
We have an angelcare too. its not necessary, just nice to have that relief that you dont have to worry all the time - only 3/4!
Oh, you know whats not attractive? Crawling practice with no pants on, butt facing mummy. Its like sphincter peek-a-boo.
M Jelly - lol about the crawling practice! As Kayley has been a bit yucky we havent spent much time on the ground the last few days.
Well we had a much better day yesterday with only 2 real bouts of pain - the rest of the time she seemed to be able to get through it - yay - I am hoping she will just get used to it and we wont have to medicate at all!! I finally got down to the shops and did get the Karicare thickener and the Mylanta - I think I will monitor her again today and try the thickener at her 8pm feed when she is the worst (I think it builds up during the day).
One negative is as she has been better she is only going for short sleeps during the day again - bugger!!
Kimba - I pretty much use that hold as well - this is the only way I can get Kayley to sleep during the day so I use it. Sometimes it takes to goes to get her down in bed though.
Well I have to run as MIL here to babysit so I can run to the shops - will try and get on later for more personals.
I just wanted to thank KIMBA and SUEMP for there text messages and everyone else messages of support. My visitors have finally gone home so its just my little family now and things seem to be getting better.
Dp is doing all he can but he seems to cope ALL of my *****y ness and abuse. I feel just aweful for it.
I have to run for now, but wanted to let you know that I am ok and am going to have a chat to someone about it. I would like a :bfp: this year too but Dp and I are both scared to try until we get rid of all the hangers on (brother, sil and ex) and everything settles down fr us.
Ok bye for now :D
ourfirstbubba
24-01-2007, 11:10
good morning girls
hope you have all had a good night sleep! It raining today and so so lovely....Natalia has been asleep for nearly 2 hours this morning so I have gotten heaps done....the cooler weather is so much nicer hey?
Kristin- well, for your sake I am glad that you are not pregnant if thats not what you wanted! REst up, it sucks having a cold in summer!
Lucy- thanks for your kind words...I am feelijg tired today but did sleep alot better knowing that my Dad is on the mend
m_jelly- the angelcare one is great...just a bit of reassurance for a paranoid Mummy like me
beck75- glad Kayley had a better day
Rian- take care of you
well my monkey pants is awake...bye!
Hi all,
It was my turn for a shocker last night. Eloise was really not well. Her temp peaked at 39.3, but we couldn't get it to drop below 38.7. We put her in bed with us, so that we could keep on trying to cool her down with a face washer and giver her panadol when she needed it. She's a bit better this morning, but you can tell that she's still got a sore throat, she's got that 'thickness' sound to her voice. Her temp has finally dropped, but is still around 37.7. So as you can imagine, we didn't get too much good quality sleep, but to top it off Lara has decided that she's going through her 12 wk growth spurt early (Eloise did the same) and now want a feed about 4am :banghead: So there's one tired mummy here.
Mary - Glad all went well with your dad's op.
We have the angelcare monitor too. It makes me feel less worried too.
Kristin - Yay on the :bfn: No period back here either, but I guess it's not surprising as I didn't get it back for 12 months after having Eloise.
Kimba - Where are you??? How did Jet go last night? Hoping for good news.
Beck - Glad you had a better night last night. The day sleeps will get better.
Oh, you know whats not attractive? Crawling practice with no pants on, butt facing mummy. Its like sphincter peek-a-boo.
m_jelly - There's my lol moment for the day :laughing:
Lucy - I hope Jordan's teeth aren't giving him too much grief. Have fun at Gymbaroo on Friday.
Eloise used to love the exercise ball at Gymbaroo. Wait until the teacher gets you to hang your baby upside down by the feet (ad give them a little swing). I absolutely freaked the first time I went to Gymbaroo and they asked us to do this (you didn't have to if you didn't want to). Eloise loved it!!!
Rian - Glad you've got rid of your visitors and are getting some help. Are your girls at school yet? At least that goes back next week (if they are school-aged) and it will only be you and James.
Mary-ann - Good to hear from you again... I have been wondering how you are going. I'm glad things are beginning to settle for you.
Di - Thank for the article. It was a good read. I think the most important thing that I took out of it was to trust your instinct (so true, but so hard to do with the conflicting advice we mums are given).
I was just having a read of the newspaper online and saw this article (http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21108321-2862,00.html) ...absolutely unbelievable. Makes me appreciate how much of a positive birth experience I did have despite the fact that it hurt like buggery.
Have a great day everyone.
Well didnt end up down the shops but had a good chat which was nice. Kayley is asleep again and has been for over an hour:thumbsup: ! Bet she wakes soon. This is even more unbelievable as they have a bobcat in our back neighbours backyard (right near her room) which keeps beeping and stuff - maybe I should be out there recording it if it works!!
She had a bit of a reflux problem after last feed and I tried to give some thickner as gel - didnt work too well - everything that went in came out and she wast co-operating by opening her mouth! Anyway by holding her up for a while she settled down and was OK again. I think I might be able to manage without anything most of the time except she is very clingy.
holchajam - is that what you want to be referred to now?? You sound much better today whcih is great! I bet it is good to have some room to yourself!
As for baby monitors - I ended up getting a Tomy Walkabout Premiere which I am happy with - it works really well but doesnt have the breathing thing the angelcare has.
Kirsten - sounds like you got the answer you wanted so congrats!
Mary - good to here your dad is OK. I lost my father to a sudden cancer a few years back so I know how hard it can be when things are touch and go.
I have a question about prams. I have a second hand Emajulunga from my sister which is great for walks but I have a babylove 3 wheeler travel system in the car (the bassinet carseat clicks into it) - anyway - Kayley is sucha big bugger she is starting to grow out of the bassinet (she is grumpy in it all the time now) so I was thinking of selling this as a set on eBay and buying a new stroller for the car. I have been on choice and am looking at the Childcare Discovery Layback Stroller and I was wondering what everyone else is using and what they recommend??? The 3 wheeler currently takes the whole boot so I am looking for something smaller - I will still use the Emy for walking and stuff.
Anyway I am going to go again and get the washing out of the machine (have to hang out everything since our bugger of a tumble dryer blew up) - cnat leave things out as the dog thinks they are chew toys!
Grrr the cat is meowing - doesnt he know Kayley is asleep - going to kick him up the bum!
Bye to all and I just wanted to refelect on what an amazing bunch of mothers we have in here - a big hug to you all!
Sare - you posted while I was typing - OMG on that article!!
Sorry to here you had a bad night - Kayley has been waking through the night which I think is due to her growth spurt but last night she woke at 2.30 and I settled her back to sleep so we werent up until 4am then 6.30am then 8.30am which is OK (she was asleep by 9.30 with a rollover feed at 11pm).
I am hoeing to go back to once up a night now - will see how she goes. Getting weighed and measured after mothers group tomorrow - which reminds me maybe we should start a post measuring everyones 3 month weight??
Kayley is still asleep 1.5 hours now - yay!!
Hi all, was about to say Jet is sleeping YAY but the little monkey just woke up grinning. Refused a feed (again!) so DH is playing with him.
Sleep last night, well, the cooler weather is helping a bit. We had the usual battle to get him to bed but he did sleep from 8.15 to 12.45, then woke at 3.30 and 5.15 when he came to bed with me till 7. That's 2 'reasonable' (for him) nights in a row - 3rd time is a habit isn't it? Fingers crossed for tonight then!!!
How often are your bubs feeding now? Jet doesn't seem hungry, is often refusing feeds and often only finishing one side (always was a 2-boob-a-feed man), which wouldn't bother me so much except that I'm worried that without him feeding, my milk is going to dry up completely. I guess all I can do is hope (trust) that he's feeding just enough to maintain a supply and that if he starts feeding more, it will increase again (as it 'should', but with me it's always so iffy). I've been offering him the boob whenever he seems remotely interested, and trying to pump when he totally skips a feed so :fingerscrossed: I can keep my supply going for him.
Speaking of which, someone on the ABA forum told me that Motilium (which I'm taking to maintain my supply) can cause digestive muscle cramps in babies so I'm wondering if that's what's up with Jet rather than his reflux. I'm going to trial not taking it for 48 hours to see if it makes a difference to him. I'm hoping it's not the Motilium causing him pain because 1) I would feel so guilty if it was! and 2) if I go off it, my supply will drop big time, and I really wanted to make it to 6 months (or more) with the BFing, but won't be able to if my supply drops :thumbsdown:. Stupid boobs, why can't they work properly on their own! LOL.
Anywhoo...
sare - Hope Eloise gets better soon. As a kid I used to be like that with medicine, something warped in my brain made me feel 'extra special' if I warranted medical attention (comes with being a drama queen - she's not a Leo by any chance is she?). OMG on that article - and I thought I had something to complain about to my hospital! Jeez...
beck - glad Kayley had a better day and is sleeping well right now, did the cooler weather help? Apparently reflux flares up when it's hot (as if they aren't grumpy enough from the heat anyway). While you had MIL there babysitting, I'd have been doing something for myself - a facial or something. "gee sorry mum the queues at woolies/Medicare/ bank/ PO were terrible" LOL. Re strollers/ prams, i've got a Childcare Infinity (kind of like a bugaboo but cheaper) which is GREAT but takes up so much boot space, thinking of getting an umbrella stroller for the car too, so let me know how you go!
mary - glad the op went well and that your Dad is doing OK. I had to laugh at you shaking your DH to see if he was alive, I still find myself having to check if Jet's breathing when he's deeply asleep. it's worse since he moved to his own room I keep lying awake listening for the slightest sound or waking and having to go check on him.
rian - good to hear you are feeling a little better, take care of yourself hun and I'm glad you're going to have a chat to someone and hope that it helps.
m_jelly - Jet does the fidget thing too, gets out of his wrap if I wrap him, or startles and wakes himself if I don't. Can't win. Won't it be fun when they're crawling and can get around their cot! had to :laughing: at the sphincter peep-show. Just like when you do a nappy change and they decide to poo on your hand, that's nice too. I took photos of Jet's butt yesterday so that when he's 18 and doesn't believe that he had cellulite, I can show him.
lucy - Great idea to use the fitball for tummy time, I bet Jet would love that. Sorry no ideas for kitchen teas, never been to one can you believe it? Sometimes I wonder if Jet is teething too it would certainly explain some of the crankiness. How good was it to have some relief from the heat last night! Looking forward to meeting you tomorrow (at last)
Kristin - hope you feel better soon. Congrats on the BFN if that's what you wanted! We haven't set up our monitor yet, it's hard enough for me trying to sleep at the moment, constantly waiting for the next 'room service please' call, let alone hearing every snuffle and fart he makes.
Jen - I love Bunnings!!! Especially plants and paint. DH can't stand it. DH is still behaving a bit today, just have to keep reminding him that if he doesn't take care of/ help me, I can't take care of Jet (which is working so far).
Diesal444 - glad you saw a psychologist and that you don't have PND, are you feeling better about things now? I agree with you, we put so much pressure on ourselves to do things 'right' when really, our babies could care less, they just need our love. Have to remind myself of that often!
Sue - yeah have to get a GP referral to see paed which is why it's a bit tricky since my GP thinks Jet is fine and I feel a bit awkward, it's like saying 'well I need a second opinion because I don't trust you' LOL.
Ahh bugger have to stop there - bub is crying and DH can't cope, because he doesn't have boobs remember, and you clearly need them to cope :laughing: . Hope the rest of you lot are having a good day!
Hi All
Kimba: I am so glad Jet is kinda sleeping better for you. Adam doesn't seem to eat lot these days either but as he is sleeping 8 or so hours at night I certainly feel it when I wake in the morning. He cluster feeds from 4-9am in between naps and the same from 5-7 before bed. During the 'day' as such he only has 2 maybe 3 full feeds.
Sare :hugs: for you and Eloise. Hope all is soon well & Happy in your house again. Even when my 15yr old is sick I feel like a bad mother and she loves cuddles (lol) but I miss my mum more when I'm sick too. I guess it is just inbuilt in us.
:laughing: on the butt stories. I was teasing Adam about his cellulite butt too yesterday. And if you lightly pinch his bum he tenses it right up and the dimply bits look worse....I wonder if our parents were so nasty to us ?????
Anyway, I went and met my friends little bub today. I picked him up and he gave me a lovely wind smile then proceeded to throw his whole feed all over me....and I mean ALL over me. Both shoulders, down my back all in my crouch, everywhere. Boy did it stink. I wasn't fussed about it but I was pretty peeved off that she never even offered me another shirt to put on. We only stayed about 1/2 an hour as I couldn't stand the smell and wanted to come home and have a shower. Poor Adam wouldn't even let me nurse him so he was screaming by the time I got home & had a shower to feed him. But all is well again now his mummy has her boobie smell back...he pretty well attcked them both to prvoe they were his..LOL
Had him weighed and he is now 6.4kg or 14lb 5oz. So he put on 320gm or 12oz in a fortnight so I am happy with that. Can't wait to get his length done before his next needles, he seems humungous.
We move from the 9th of Feb so I better get my a into gear and sort some stuff out...
Hope you all had a good day
Hello ladies,
Well a bad nights sleep last not - not Jordan but me! Didn't get to sleep until about 1:30am - not happy! Hopefully better night sleep tonight.
Sare, I hope Eloise is better soon. Poor thing. Give her a hug from us.
Di, baby vomit everywhere! Yuck. i get so embaressed if Jordan chucks on anyone, I wipe it all off and try to get things for them. The smell is the worst! She could have at least offered you an old shirt to wear so you didn't have to put up with the smell. Not long until you move! Bet you can't wait.
Kimba, Jordan eats about every 3-4 hours during the day. He has been a bit funny over the past couple of days with the heat. He takes a full bottle (210mls)and then a "top-up" of 60mls about an hour later. That gets him off to sleep. I am not sure if there is supposed to be another growth spurt about the 4 month mark. Hoping not - I don't want my boy to grow up too much! Can't wait to meet up tomorrow!
Beck, sorry no real good info on the prams. I have a stroller (Target one) that I use if we are not going to be long or I need room in the boot. I also have a full on pram (babystar) which is fabulous but very bulky. I switch between the two. Is a hassle and probably a reason why my back is so bad at the moment. I wish I had a lay back stroller, but don't see the sense in having 3 different ones! Yeah Kayley with her sleeping!
Oh my god to that article - how scary for that women and her partner.
Well I had better run and start dinner. Oh yeah I was in Cronulla yesterday and resisted the urge to get a Cold Rock - even though it was screaming at me to come in!!!
Catch you all later on!
Lucy
GeorgiaAnne
24-01-2007, 16:31
Hi Chickies,
Di - How vile about the vom, I can't believe she didn't try and clean you up! I don't blame Adam for wanting his proper mummy smell back
Kimba - hurrah for a good sleep. Just a thought with Jets feeding, perhaps he needs a bit more less often. So if you're feeding him 3 hourly, drag him out to 4 hourly and he might be a bit more interested. He's a big boy so he's obviously getting enough, that way he will keep your supply up rather than having smaller snacks. I'm no expert but that is just stuff I have picked up from reading
Beck - nice one on the nap. It is amazing what they will sleep through sometimes.
Sare - :hugs: to poor old tired you. I hope Eloise is getting better, poor little love. Cripes on that article. The hospitals comments were interesting though, sort of making the couple out to be in the wrong!
Holchajam - Glad you are feeling a bit better:D`
Mary - I'm with you on the rain. I stayed in bed late this morning and read my book with a cup of tea and the rain on the window - HEAVEN!!! (Sophia was asleep!) Grea news the operation went well.
m_jelly - haha on the sphincter peek a boo. . I always think it's funny when i'm changing a nappy and I lift up her legs and cop a fart. I shouldn't laugh...
Jen - I agree with you about not too much positive affirmation for dh's. Men do seem to look for pats on the back a lot don't they? My dh and I work together so it is double trouble in terms of winding each other up.
Kristin - congrats on the bfn, it sounds like it was the right result for you atm.
Lucy - Looking forward to meeting you guys tomorrow
I have had a busy arvo at work and cant wait to go home and have an icy cold beer and a bit of curry, yum yum. Sophia wasn't very happy about being at work today so I am looking forward to getting her home.
Hope all you girls have a lovely night
Just a quick one
Well Kayley slept for just under 3 hours which is amazing but she has been real grizzly at all her feeds today - seems to be repeating on her again - bugger (although when she seems to have a worse day she sleeps better - go figure?) - so I am a bit loke you Kimba, my both boobs girl is now often only taking one and most feeds are in single digits so I am a bit worried if whe is getting enough too. Well I have my MHC check tomorrow so will get her weighed and then might weigh her again after mothers group next week to be sure she is still gaining.
She is asleep now but had to give her a top up feed and fight through the crying before I relaxed her enough to go to sleep.
One more thought - how can someone so small produce so much poo - and how can it all come out in one fart??? Clothes soaking again as even these huggies nappies cant cope with Kayleys bum!! Mummy G I also laugh at the farts in my face but one day I am sure I am not going to be laughing IUKWIM!!
Well sending good sleep vibes to all of you!
SalTheGal
24-01-2007, 18:14
Hi all,
sorry no time for personals, heaps to do and visitors arriving here.
Will probably be online again once or twice but probably won't have time to post so just want to send happy bubby/ sleepy bubby vibes to everyone.
I'll be back next week with photos and all the goss!!
:party: Wish me luck I am so excited!!!!!!!!!:party:
Valentine
Howdy all
Well my net has been down since this morning. I was very patient, waiting for Telstra to fix it, resetting my equipment every now and then, going out, and then finally spending 30 minutes on hold to see what was going on. Duh, my router overheated and I could have fixed it hours ago. Would you believe I'm actually a qualified IT technician? No, me either. I'm a bit special since being pregnant.
Abbey's chiro this week was very very good. She cooperated the whole session, was happy, and even got praise for being so improved in a short period. If she continues well until next week she can then go fortnightly. Hurrah for Abbey and hurrah for my budget!
Kimba-hope its not the milk drug, but at least if it is you know you can end his discomfort, even if you do have to go the formula route. It wont be a mystery causing everyone frustration and pain anymore.
Hope eloise pulls up and goes back to her normal cheeky self.
Re balls - i got bored on the floor with abbey one day(and stuck, too old and broken to get up) so decided to play rollies on my foot pouff. Then I got out the video camera and rolled her backwards and forwards really slowly to/from it. It was a loomy confused baby.
Still, it distracted both of us for a little while.
Very yucko about the vomit - maybe she's a bit like me tho - I got so tired of being puked on by Abbey every hour that whenever she puked on someone else I just said "haha, it was your turn" and gave no pity.
holchajam - is that what you want to be referred to now?? You sound much better today whcih is great! I bet it is good to have some room to yourself!
Oh you can still call me Rian. Just hiding my user name from GOOGLING eyes...lol
Thanks everyone. Your all so great.
Evening all,
Not much time - tired bub and dishes in the sink ready to be washed....
Sal, just wanted to come on and wish you all the very best for your big day. I will be thinking of you. Enjoy every minute of the day. Can't wait to see lots of pics!
:party:
All our best wishes
Kev, Lucy and Jordan
xx
Valentine
Good Luck Sal & Lloyd
(and Nedd too)
Valentine
We'll be thinking of you on Friday.
Can't wait to see the photos.
I hope Nedd is kind to you and lets you have a couple of nights of good sleep. :sleeping: Tell him that his bub hub buddy, Lara, orders him to do so...
ourfirstbubba
24-01-2007, 19:53
hello girls
well hope you and bubs are all well!
We are going great, Natalia was so so tired tonight.....and she had good day sleeps today too! She has been asleep since 7.45pm but will most likely wake for another little top up as she only had 80ml ...but she was more tired than hungry and fell asleep straight away.....
Good luck Sal and Lloyd for Friday...it is the best day of your life, cherish every minute!
Kimba Natalia feeds roughly every 3.5 hours, but I am bottle feeding so I know how much she has had at each feed...some days she has 900ml, other days less.....my hubby takes motilium as his stomach has trouble breaking down foods.....its strong stuff I think......I am glad that Jet slept a little better last night....
di_matt yuck about the vomit...pretty rude not even offering you a daggy old shirt! Yay on the weight gain...I havent been to the clinic since December as they were closed over Xmas, but am going on Monday for an appt...I am thinking Natalia is close to 6.5kg now, she is getting pinchable little legs, I love it! How do you work out the kgs to pounds conversion???
love Cronulla, it remeinds me of Newcastle
[COLOR="Magenta"]Georgia a nice cold beer, sounds great.....I like a curry also but not too hot, I cooked a chicken noodle stir fry tonight and it was yum! and I agree, love reading a book in bed, am reading a funny book at the moment called Sushi for Beginners.....I am always reading...also love my trashy OK magazine....
beck75- Natalia did a massive poo this morning at 4.30am, it woke her up.....and I know when she is doing one, she has this lookf concentration on her face and she grunts...its funny to watch.....then she smiles like its a huge relief!
m_jelly-poor bugger, I hate dealing with Telstra, hopeless!
sare hope Eloise has a better night sleep tonight..:fingerscrossed:
well my hubby is feeding Natalia again, am sure she will finish the bottle this time....
well, I am off to have a shower and then watch the tennis in bed.....
hope all bubs and Mums sleep well tonight :angel:
xo
Good Morning one and all
Well I can say I have had the best night sleep since I was about 18. I was never a big sleeper before getting pregnant with Adam. Usually 4-5 hours tops (maybe that's why getting up to him never worried me lol) but last night Adam went to sleep at 8 and never woke until 6.30. To top off our great night he hadn't even peed in his nappy. I was laughing and told DH he was already night nappy trained...mind you since he has been awake I think he has made up for it. We have naked time in the morning and I think his poor mat is wetter than when it goes through the wash :laughing:
SAL: I hope tomorrow brings you all the joy and happiness you, Lloyd and Nedd deserve. Have a great day Valentine
Mary: To convert kilograms to pounds is as follows : 1oz = 28.4gms. So 1lb = 453.6gms.
With length 1" = 2.54cm
When I had my first (now nearly 16) the midwife copied a chart for me.
Glad your Dad is OK.
Hope all our little bubhububbies slept well and that everyone is getting a little rain. It has been very very lightly raining here all night.
Talk soon....someone has emptied their belly and needs a refill lol
kristin5
25-01-2007, 10:56
Wow - go away for a day and come back to numerous pages to read. It is too hard to do all personals, so just rest assured that I have read it all (despite Mr Ryley pressing computer keys so the screen flashes around in front of me!)
Sare- I hope Eloise is feeling a bit better today.
Kristin- (see, I'll never get your name misspelt!) Congrats on the :bfn:
Kimba- Congrats on the happier, more settled bub.
I feed Ryley every 3-4 hours, around 200-250 mls each time, so he has between 1200-1300 mls a day. And we got good news on Tuesday...
He is finally on the weight chart!:party:
He was small at birth (due to my high blood pressure I've been told, though I don't think 8 weeks of diarrhoea helped!) and then, abviously, very ill, so has struggled with weight gain, but it seems we are getting somewhere now.
Anyway, he is wanting a feed so best be off, but before I do,
GOOD WISHES TO SAL - will be thinking of you tomorrow!:smiliedance:
Valentine All the best for your big day tomorrow Sal and Lloyd! Wishing you a lifetime of happiness together. Valentine
So great that Nedd can be a part of it too :yes:
No dramas getting Jet to bed last night YEEHA but he woke at 11.45, 1.30, 3.45, and 5 (then 6, 7 in bed with me). Seems I can't have a good night's sleep AND a drama-free bedtime - it's one or the other LOL.
Dammit, Jet just woke up, so no time for personals - have to feed him and get him ready to go meet Lucy, Jordan, Pam, Olivia, Georgia and Sophia! :smiliedance: I'll be the one with the big bags under my eyes LOL.
Later!
Kimba I had the opposite to you - Kayley slept pretty well over night but I had a shocker last night. She started screaming when I was trying to feed her and wouldnt take any more boob but was screamng because whe was hungry. I gave some thickener which did nothing and then tried the Mylanta which still didnt help. DH got home late and I was in tears so he suggested some Panadol - that just came straight back up and the screaming continued until I finally got her on the boob about 1.5 hours later when she fed to sleep. Just when I thiought she may be getting better we have another episode like this. Actually it is starting to worry me a bit as she is not eating much at a session. Was trying to get her to sleep this morning with no luck then fed her again (only 1.5 hours after last small feed) and again she fed to sleep and there was no way I was waking her! She is in bed now but she is still coughing and spluttering a bit with things coming up. Also this morning she cracked after only 1 min on the boob but then I eventually got her to take another 5 on the other side so I expressed some milk I might try to thicken for her tonight.
Poor thing - I can tell she is in pain when she starts regurgitating and coughing - I just want my old baby back!
Not looking forward to mothers group today but I have my check up after so I guess I have to go. If she screams the whole way thorough I am going to feell like a terrible mother.
Oh well sorry for my rant. I just really hope things get better.
Sal - best of luck on the wedding tomorrow - should hopefully be good weather for you.
Anyway - time to go.
maybe1more
25-01-2007, 12:17
I was very happy today, my milk has really increased, i expressed 140ml this morning:eek: :smiliedance: that fenugreek is awesome, it helped too that Caleb slept 8 hours last night;)
Hi all,
Just put Eloise to bed for a nap and Lara is enjoying some tummy time before her feed, so I thought I'd quickly hop on.
Eloise is doing much better today... thanks for all your kind thoughts ... she is still a little hoarse and says that her throat hurts, but she doesn't have a temperature and she has a bit more colour today.
Beck - Poor Kayley. It really does sound like she is in a lot of pain. Is the paed going to give you a call earlier if they have a cancellation? I hope Mother's Group went ok... at least if she does scream through it, the MCHN will see what's going on.
Jenny - Yay on the increased milk supply. I've found that fenugreek works for me too. :smiliedance: on Caleb for sleeping for 8hrs last night.
Sydney girls - Hope the catch up went well.
Kristin - How was the tennis? The Hingis and Clijsters match looked great. I bet that you missed Ryley. Oh, it's great news about Ryley's weight gain too. I'm keen to see how much Lara has gained. It will be a month between visits and I want to make sure that my diet hasn't affected how much milk she is getting...I'm sure that she'll be right.
Di - Adam sounds like a real treasure. What is your secret? lol. I can't complain Lara is pretty good most of the time.
Mary - I hope Natalia slept well for you last night. Sounds like it was a big day for all of you.
Lara had a bit of a restless night (by her standards...no where like what you've been going through Kimba). She fed from 8.45pm to 11pm straight :eek: We put her to bed still awake, and she fell asleep about 11.30pm. She woke at 1am, and I sent dh down to settle her (which he did) and she was up again just before 5. It seems like the nights of 11.30pm - 7.30ish have long gone :gloomy:
Well hope you are all well and enjoying the lovely weather. Hope it stays as nice as this for you tomorrow Sal.
ourfirstbubba
25-01-2007, 16:30
hi girls
hope you are all well....Natalia is a bit more sooky thank normal today..my Mum thinks she is teething cause she is dribbling alot and always has her fingers/fist in her mouth.....
she had a record sleep last night..she slept from 9.30pm until 8am.......needless to say she only slept for an hour this morning between 10and 11 and then had another nap while we were shopping from 1.45pm until 2.30pm and she is alseep again now.....
di_matt- thanks for the conversion from pounds to kgs...how funny that he had not peed...Natalia was soaked right through this morning..guess I would be too if I slept for 10 hours straight......I really need to go to bed earlier though myself..damn tennis!
Kristin5- Ryley looks like such a cutie..that is great news about the weight gain...go Ryley!
beck75- you should not feel like a terrible mother because Kayley screams...I used to apologise until one lady told me that a mother should never have to apologise if a baby cries......hope you get some answers today
Kimba- hope you enjoyed your catch up with the Sydney girls..shame Newcastle is 2 hours away!
sare- glad Eloise is feeling better.....hope little Lara gets back to her old slepeing habits...I think their patterns change all the time.....
well, better go and start cooking whilst Natalia is still asleep....going to go and see my Dad tonight....he is not eating or drinking which is a worry....
I'll try and pop on again later.....
xo
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.1.9 Copyright © 2012 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.