CCCompromise

[rosebaby]

I've just invented the term! CCCompromise! Nifty, huh? I should write a book!

But what is it? And why is rosebaby sounding so chirpy - she's usually leaden with overtired misery!

WELL! I'm glad you asked. I THINK I have invented a form of CC that doesn't involve crying. That's why I've put it in the no-cry section - Mods, I hope that's ok.

ANYWAY. For the last three times that I've put Jack down, he's squawked, and I've left him to squawk, only for around two minutes at a time. Note: squawk, not cry. When he's started to cry properly, I'm in there like a shot. The squawking is really not upset at all, it's more just liking the sound of his own voice. Sort of yelps of indignation, but certainly not crying.

And on each time, he's done a couple of minutes of squawking, then I went in and calmed him, and then another minute or so of squawking, and then he was ASLEEP!

I've only done it three times, so I'm not claiming to have found a foolproof sleep solution here, people. And I know there will be days when he is very stressed and upset and crying hard, and I won't even attempt the Magic Rosebaby CCCompromise on those days - I'll be back to my normal by-his-side patting and stroking and settling, or even boobing to sleep if needs be. But I think the beauty of the CCCompromise is that it will give him a taste of self settling - even if he only gets to practise it every so often - and there's no crying.

I may well be eating my words in two days when this doesn't work, but for now, I think I've stumbled on a gold mine. I urge you to try it the next time you put your baby down when (s)he seems to be in a reasonably calm, happy frame of mind and see what happens. And remember the catchphrase: CCCompromise. I'm working on getting the publishing deal as we speak :laughing:

[pookiesossige]

I'm so glad you've posted this- I am discovering a similar thing. What you are talking about is not CC, imo. You truly don't have to let your baby cry to sleep (or for ANY amount of time) to have success!!

Tonight, after reading Elizabeth Pantley's "No Cry Sleep Solution" I started teaching Ariene that she can go to sleep in her cot immediatly after a good feed and a cuddle so that she doesn't wake hourly demanding a feed to sleep every time. I settle her on the boob, she's calm and sleepy, remove the boob, put her down. She fusses, I settle her on the boob, she's calm and sleepy, remove the boob, put her down again, etc etc. I can see that given time and patience, it will work!

No one is getting worked up, my baby isn't crying in lonliness and confusion, and no one is feeling guilty! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Buddha Bubbas]

how funny that i have some across this today!!
im doing the same thing. i put J down after a cuddle, pat a little then leave the room, as soon as he starts a grizzle im back in a flash, little bit more patting repeat until success!

only started yesterday and tonight it took a little while. And he eventually went to sleep.

Im going to stick with this because seriously i couldnt not take much more. J has never been a good sleeper except at 3 months when he started to self-settle for about 3 weeks. Then its was back to normal. other than that he still wakes and/or feeds every 3 hours. on a bad night 1-2 hours. I ended up having to hold/rock and pat him to sleep and he would be crying/screaming and throwing himself back. talk about resisting.

this is working for us and pookie and rosebaby :hugs: im so happy to hear its working for you guys.

[reAllytee]

This is what ive done when desperate & its always worked well because Boof doesnt feel neglected & i dont feel horrible either.
I think we all have to find a solution that fits not just for ourselves but for our babies.
Sometimes co-sleeping is a great option but it isnt for everyone & not every baby likes it & same goes with CC.
You do what you do & if it works awesome :thumbsup:

Good luck everyone :hugs:

[Buddha Bubbas]

well we have had no tears!!! lots of grizzles but NO TEARS! J has been sleeping for longer than 45 mins at a time and tonight Dh fed him, wrapped him up, cuddles and kisses and was put in his cot. we waited and waited and NOTHING! he went to sleep by himself. i cant believe it. :yelclap:

[reAllytee]

Thats really awesome hun :hugs:

[rosebaby]

Same! It is MIRACULOUS! The only thing that sucks is all the literature tells you that once they learn to self-settle, then they shouldn't be waking up as often at night: they should be much better at popping themselves back to sleep without assistance. No joy for me on that front - the little pumpkin is still awake and howling about six times a night! But I'm sure something else is bugging him: I've tried feeding him more/less, using a nightlight, making him warmer/cooler, feeding breast/formula. Tonight I'm testing the "cot mattress is too hard" theory by padding the cot with a doona. Wish me luck: I'm almost out of a) ideas b) my mind. :(

[Buddha Bubbas]

oh rosebaby :hugs: J is still waking fequently at night. i am just happy that he is putting himself to sleep! one day at at time. im sure the night sleeping will get better :D

[rosebaby]

You know the most annoying thing? The one day his dad did his night feeds - I think it was Thursday night - he slept like an angel and only woke twice! "I don't see what the problem is!" chirped D-on-and-off-P, smugly. The problem is you're about to feel the back of my hand, smartarse! :laughing:

[Buddha Bubbas]

:laughing: that was unexpected! I hear you tho :D

[bekkyboo]

We have been doing a similar thing with G for alittle while now..

Im now experimenting with sitting by his cot to settle him, as we feel that he is just working up because he doesnt want to be away from us, and doesnt want to be in the cot. So i sit there and gently pat his bum or whatever, and avoid eye contact. I have been letting him chew my hair or grab my face -whatever he wants to do. He eventually rolls back over and drifts off...

[cosmic]

But I'm sure something else is bugging him: I've tried feeding him more/less, using a nightlight, making him warmer/cooler, feeding breast/formula. Tonight I'm testing the "cot mattress is too hard" theory by padding the cot with a doona. Wish me luck: I'm almost out of a) ideas b) my mind. :(
Rosebaby, I just wanted to say I went through exactly the same thing with my DD from about 3.5mths through to 6mths. I kept trying to work out what it was and changing things to try to fix it. In the end, she just started sleeping better. Go figure. Admittedly it was about 3 weeks after starting solids so I don't know if that made a difference. But I took some comfort from reading in Babylove that the night-waking from 4 - 6mths is reasonably common. Some babies apparently just do it. And it seems we are the lucky ones with those babies. :rolleyes:

And I loved your comment re: your DH. :laughing:

[Melika]

[QUOTE=cosmic;967213]Rosebaby, I just wanted to say I went through exactly the same thing with my DD from about 3.5mths through to 6mths. I kept trying to work out what it was and changing things to try to fix it. In the end, she just started sleeping better. Go figure. Admittedly it was about 3 weeks after starting solids so I don't know if that made a difference. But I took some comfort from reading in Babylove that the night-waking from 4 - 6mths is reasonably common. Some babies apparently just do it. QUOTE]

I am starting to think there may also be something in the solids also :fingerscrossed: Bubs is often happy to sleep after a feed (even if he didn't drink much) but sometimes needs a gentle patting to soothe him However, he wakes up 4 to 5 times a night. But last week my husband who has been eagerly waiting to feed solids, started feeding a little bit of solids. Bubs started only waking 1 to 2 times a night! It was great - but then I started to worry it was too soon for him to be eating solids since there is mixed information on the best time (he is a little over 4 months) and we have compromised to wait until 5 mths. Bubs is now back to waking 4 to 5 times a night! It may just be coincidence since it was only a few days that we fed solids but there is hope!

[rosebaby]

See, the constant waking for us actually started when I BEGAN solids. Initially, everyone told me that his 2-time night waking would stop if I started solids. But I started them and he began waking FIVE times a night. Now I've taken him off solids, on the advice of my CHN and others...and no improvements.

Cosmic - I am pleased to know that things evened themselves out for you at 6 months. Jack is almost 5 months - if I have to deal with this for another month, I can survive! It's encouraging to know there's (maybe) an end in sight.

As another bubhubber - shed, I think - once said: "These babies! Who can figure them out!?" Amen to that :)