Dairy AND soy allergy???? [Archive] - Bub Hub Pregnancy & Parenting Forum

TreeFrog

04-01-2007, 22:32

My youngest child is exactly that! Cow's milk and soy are not his thing at all. He gets quite a reaction from both.

Apparently about 40% of babies who are allergic to cow's milk protein are also allergic to soy protein. Not uncommon at all. My DS is also 11 months!

So, I hear ya! :yes:

Mrs AJC

04-01-2007, 22:41

My older bro and sis were the same. Mum had them on goats milk and they didn't have a prob! By the way, they both grew out of it by 5.

reAllytee

05-01-2007, 00:21

While not as serious as your lot & not a "true" allergy i have to be really careful of how much toddler formula he gets & the rest is rice milk otherwise the affects are horrible !!!!

youngbrismum

05-01-2007, 09:21

My DD is allergic to dairy but fine with soy. Though because I am not a fan of soy she often has rice or oat milk which you can find in the healthfood section of your supermarket.

Tisme

05-01-2007, 23:03

Have any of you found an aternative to Bread??? Or found a dairy and soy free bread??? He watches us eat sandwiches and screams with anticipation, it's heart wrenching. I even stopped him from being in the same room as the kids so as he can't see them while they eat, so what does he do?? The blighter learnt to crawl .... and open sliding doors!!!!!!!!!!

Mrs AJC

05-01-2007, 23:22

I have found some websites that may be of help.

http://www.freedomfoods.com.au/food_allergy.html

http://au.dir.yahoo.com/Society_and_Culture/Food_and_Drink/Cooking/Recipes/Special_Dietary_Needs/Allergy_Friendly/Dairy_Free/

http://www.blognow.com.au/fedupwithallergies/28240/more_recipies.html

http://www.orgran.com/ (apparently the "outback animals" cookies are soy and dairy free)

http://www.allergyblock.com.au/

Perhaps you should take your littlie to a doctor and get a referal to a nutritionist who specialises in allergies, they will be able to get you on track with sourcing food. Good Luck :thumbsup:

Tisme

06-01-2007, 09:59

Kylles

06-01-2007, 10:15

Have any of you found an aternative to Bread??? Or found a dairy and soy free bread??? He watches us eat sandwiches and screams with anticipation, it's heart wrenching.

Sure there are dairy free breads. You could always make your own with the rice or oat milk.

We made all of our big family Xmas feast with oat milk and milk free margarine... things like cinnamon rolls, some flat bread... etc and none of the family even commented on a different taste.

Next time you go to the supermarket take some time and read through the ingredients, you are sure to find something in the bread isle and you will probably find there are many different loaves available for you.. ie white, grain etc. You can buy a loaf and freeze it and use it when you need it. Ohter wise your local baker will more than likely do a dairy free loaf of some sort.

Oh and I use milk free marg on both kids sandwiches as big sis loves to feed lil bro her leftover sangas...

Good luck with it... it's tough at first until you find some the products that the LO enjoys and.

Mrs AJC

06-01-2007, 10:28

Ok so I just did a search and came up with this site (http://www.miteyfresh.com.au/page/allergy_specialist_health_guide.html)that will give you a list of allergy specialists in diff states. The one in Bondi Junction sound like the type of place you need to go to. Then your bub can be tested to see if and what allergies or intolerence's exist, it may not just be soy and dairy, then they will be able to guide you to what diet he should be on.
You may also find this site of interest
http://www.allergy.org.au/

Mrs AJC

06-01-2007, 10:32

Ohh Ohh this site looks good too for info
http://www.cyh.com/HealthTopics/HealthTopicDetails.aspx?p=114&np=302&id=1445#12

aardvark

06-01-2007, 10:58

Dairy and Soy free bread - I use the Simply No Knead bread recipes which use water not milk, and simply substitute the strained juice of one orange for the bread improver. I've not tried packaged juice.

I got onto the idea of using orange juice from a book called Baker & Spice: Baking With Passion, as it is what they use in their recipes.

The bread improver contains Soy flour, Vitamin C and a few other things, but what you are really adding it for is the Vitamin C, which you get from the orange.

Tisme

08-01-2007, 09:31

Simply no knead??? Sounds exactly what I'm after. Where do I get the recipe from??

Aussie-Swede - I would love to use the supermarket, but unfortunately have gone through all of them and they all contain either dairy OR soy, and some of them have both. The only one I found was a corn bread which he spat out at me, and so I tried it ..... YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't blame the child.

TreeFrog

08-01-2007, 12:35

Isn't shopping in a supermarket just frustrating when you have allergies or kids with allergies? Everything is just so processed and many a time it is just to make the product look good (obviously to entice you to buy it)!

I even found a Soy "style" (that's the giveaway that it's smoke and mirrors anyway) coffee pre mix drink by Jarrah a few weeks ago. Although it did not say it was 'dairy free' one would think that such a product would be marketed towards those that cannot drink cow's milk. Anyway, blow me down, the darn stuff had milk protein in it (to make it 'creamy':rolleyes: ). What's the point? How ridiculous. There's always something extra and annoying added to make it look good. But so many products are like that. Grrrrrrr....:mad:

Anyway, a mini vent. I am just being cranky.

becstar

19-01-2007, 17:43

Has anyone else a baby who is allergic to Dairy AND Soy?? Or am I once again a nigel??????

Nope my son was allergic to both but has since outgrown the soy allergy. The proteins in cows milk and soys milk is apparently similar and its quite common to be allergic to both....

Bec
xx

becstar

19-01-2007, 17:46

My older bro and sis were the same. Mum had them on goats milk and they didn't have a prob! By the way, they both grew out of it by 5.

Be careful with goats milk, it also has a similar protein to cows milk. Your bro and sis must have had an intolerance, not an allergy. If you are allergic to cows milk protein then you most likely be allergic to goats milk. (RPA allergy centre now routinely test all those allergic to cows milk for goats milk allergy too - my son had reactions to both).

Bec
xx

becstar

19-01-2007, 17:49

Thanks heaps Mrs AJC.

I've been trying to get in to see a peadiatric allergy specialist, but so far have come up with two duds .... they both told me in lay terms that babies of HIS size (9.5kg at 11months) NEED to lost the weight that is common with this allergy and therefore I NEED to introduce dairy and soy back into his diet ..... never mind the OTHER symptoms such as sever gut ache, severe reflux, constant diahorrea ..... hmmm ....

any suggestions of decent nutritionlist in Sydney would be appreciated!!!

We take our boy to see a paediatrician and dietician at RPA allergy centre. They can be quite hard to get into but are really really really good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would say they are the leaders in the field. You need a referral from your GP and the waiting list is about 3-4 months for new referrals.....good luck, they are worth the wait
Bec

becstar

19-01-2007, 17:56

Oh its just me again....lol.

I thought I would add a list of dairy and soy free foods that my son eats. I have scoured the supermarket shelves and read all the labels since he was diagnosed 3 year ago. He eats cracker bread instead of normal bread a lot of the time and is quite happy with that:

CHOCOLATE OREOS (chocolate flavoured only, the white ones have traces of milk)
REAL FOODS CORN THINS
RYVITA CRACKERBREAD (its cruskit style, not the normal Ryvita style) Hard to find in all supermarkets, my local franklins has it and sometimes Coles has it.
SPELT BREAD from the health food shop
CARR'S TABLE WATER BISCUITS
COLES PLAIN RICE CRACKERS
KETTLE PLAIN SEA SALT CHIPS
RED DELI STYLE PLAIN SALTED CHIPS
POPCORN
um......thats all I can think of for now, I will see if I can think of any more and add later..

Bec

TreeFrog

20-01-2007, 23:12

That's a great list Becstar:thumbsup:

Another one to mention is Kettle Honey Ham chips as well. As far as I know, they are dairy free (and soy too I believe). I have had these a few times because of that.

Also, most rice crackers are plain as are the corn and rice wafers from Sunblest. Just get the plain ones.

I must check out the Spelt bread too. I have been after a soy & dairy free bread and was wondering what other options we have other than Pita bread.

21-01-2007, 10:11

I was the same as a bub - I outgrew it though... mum just had me on goats milk too

becstar

21-01-2007, 20:42

Also, most rice crackers are plain as are the corn and rice wafers from Sunblest. Just get the plain ones.

My son's was supposed to avoid food "with traces" of milk and soy listed. I found that most of the rice crackers had traces listed so he couldn't have them.......so it just depends on how strict you have to be with your allergy food. If you have to avoid traces then its a lot harder, the only rice crackers I have found so far are the COLES PLAIN ones. SAKATA plain used to be free from traces but are not anymore, they must have changed their production line......

Bec
xx

PunkyDiva

21-01-2007, 20:48

Have you tried a lactose free milk as this may be the problem rather then the protein.

I think it was a homebrand bread from IGA that has no dairy products in it.

jessgray

21-01-2007, 20:50

my ds1 and i are lactose intolerant so its a bit different to an allergy to dairy. we cant eat or drink much dairy with out being affected by it. my ds1 has only started to be able to handle soy milk in small amounts. but before this i know how hard it is to find dairy and soy free things, its a nightmare to go shopping.
my mum gave me a good tip: try to only buy food that remembers where it came from.
which means the less processed the better:thumbsup: by eating fresh stuff you can ussually avoid traces of allergens:D