sleeping

[alieve]

Hi everyone,
I have a beautiful baby girl called Eve who is 10 months old. She will not under any circumstances go to sleep during the day. The nights are geat with her sleeping through 99% of the time. You name it I have tried it & now that she has a slight cold, it's worse. I hae resorted to going for a drive when the tired signs start & that works sometimes but she is falling into a habbit of waking after only a 1/2 hour kip. If she was coping with this amount of sleep during the day, I wouldn't be concerned but she gets ver irritable & overtired. I have done the CC but she will scream in her cot for upto an agonising hour & I hate this method but had to give it a go. yep done the 3 day pattern too but she seems to be one step ahead of me. Any other suggestions would be welcomed. Thanks PS we live in rural WA so going for a walk isn't an option in the coming months either

[poshBecks]

I feel for you!!

I havn't had that problem with ds, so i can't offer too much advice - CC seems to work here!
Maybe she's teething or something??

I really just wanted to say that we're with you!! :o

I hope somebody can give you some advice that works!!

good luck!!

[Chickadee]

Have you tried Ngala? They run sleep & settling sessions including in some rural WA areas, or you could just phone for some help.

We used patting, a rhythmic naaah naaah sound like a creaky door and a very assertive tone of voice. Not loud, but just not pleading with DD to sleep. It worked for us, but DD was much younger than yours at 4 months and knowing what she was like at 10 months I don't think it would have worked so well then. I can send you a longer description of it, but like I said, I don't know how good it would be for older bubs.

I learnt my technique from a woman in Perth who does individual consulting with families to resolve sleeping issues. I can dig out her info for you if you want to try calling her. I'm not sure how it would work if you're very far from Perth (judging by your post code you are :() but she might be able to support you by phone.

[JanetF]

Have you tried lying down with her?
Slinging?
You don't say if you bf but I have yet to see a baby stay awake when tired and bfing.
A gentle ritual to lead into sleepy times? Watching her cues is really good but sometimes they have cues before their obvious ones, IYKWIM, so maybe watch for those?
You are so right to avoid the CC/CIO.

This is Dr Sears on day sleeps.
http://askdrsears.com/faq/sl11.asp

Fifteen ways to help your baby sleep. (They're about night but easily apply to day)
http://www.pinky-mychild.com/features/baby/sleep.html

Lots of hints and excerpts from Elizabeth Pantley.
http://www.pantley.com/elizabeth/content/books.htm#gbc

Some thoughts on how met needs go away and unmet needs persist.
http://www.mothering.com/articles/body_soul/inspiration/giving_children_more.html

[Kaylene]

I too have a baby that didn’t like to sleep. The only thing that worked was what everyone told me not to do. So I will tell you and you can make up your own mind. Not only did it work , now I have a stable routine at night and day.
First thing you do is get a big old shirt that you can wrap around her mattress and wear it for a day using no deodorants, vacuum, scrub what-ever to make it stink like you. Air it to dry and apply whole shirt around the mattress so it wont bunch up and block her breathing. Now what they say don’t do. I get her up at 6.30am and start preparing her to go down at 11.00. Read a book with her. Make bottle and feed and rock her to sleep against you. Gently put her down and she wont know your not there, if she stirs just lay your hand on her back until she has fallen to sleep. After a week remove T-shirt, then start gently waking her as you put her down i.e. burping etc. Then eventually put her down awake. It took a month but now I’m loving it. It may not work as each baby is different but you never know. Good luck.

>>>Oh yeh importantly, she will wake upset you have gone. Over a period of the month leave her when she wakes longer and longer until you go get her. Max 4-5 mins. Eventually she will wake happier and ready to play.

[wattle]

Good on you Kaylene for posting this. It just goes to show that there is no right or wrong way to parent. It's just a matter of finding what works for each child. Keep trying things alieve and hopefully you will find the answer soon. It is fine to try cc and other techniques - different things work for different babies.

[alieve]

Thank you for your kind reply & support. Great to know that there are other mum's who really do understand. Keep in touch becky.
Ps I used ot live in Breibane & miss it heaps but this WA is a great experience for a few years

[alieve]

[Thank you for your great advice & I will definately try this when hubby gets home. He's been away this week which has magnified the problem. (No support) She's not a rocking girl or cuddly but will adapt this to her type. Great idea with the shirt too....

Cheers
Alieve

Wife to Pat
Yummy Mummy to Eve

[alieve]

Have you tried lying down with her?
Slinging?
You don't say if you bf but I have yet to see a baby stay awake when tired and bfing.
A gentle ritual to lead into sleepy times? Watching her cues is really good but sometimes they have cues before their obvious ones, IYKWIM, so maybe watch for those?
You are so right to avoid the CC/CIO.

This is Dr Sears on day sleeps.
http://askdrsears.com/faq/sl11.asp

Fifteen ways to help your baby sleep. (They're about night but easily apply to day)
http://www.pinky-mychild.com/features/baby/sleep.html

Lots of hints and excerpts from Elizabeth Pantley.
http://www.pantley.com/elizabeth/content/books.htm#gbc

Some thoughts on how met needs go away and unmet needs persist.
http://www.mothering.com/articles/body_soul/inspiration/giving_children_more.html


These are some great web sites & thank you so much for your advice.
I still do breastfeed & have tried the feed, rocking or patting to sleep which used to work really well but she seems to be wising up to the "oh this means sleep & I don't want to, I might miss something" The changing that comes with age is amazing & they are sometimes one step ahead of you I think.
I watches her ques today & did a rock in the pram for 10 mins & that worked & put her to bed still awake & she nodded off but sleep only lasted for 25mins.
Will get into the web sites more & might find something there.

Thanks again Janet