Nappy rash and cloth nappies

[Areca]

Quick question...DD poo'd in her sleep last night and didn't wake up so we have a very red, sore bottom this morning...bleeding and all.

I have Bepanthem cream on it and have given her nappy free time (as much as I'm game...at 1 she hardly sits still) but I put disgustables on her cause I don't want to wreck my fuzzi bunz with the nappy rash cream but hate having something so plasticy on her red sore bottom.

Is Bepanthem safe to use with Fuzzi Bunz or should I stick to the disposables? (I know I should know this, I've been a cloth user since DD was 2 months old but she's never had a bad rash and we just put bi carb soda in her bath when it's a little red and it's gone the next day).

[KarniF00l]

Have you got Curash powder ? That stuff works wonders if you don't want to use a cream and it's safe to use with MCN.

I hope it clears up soon.

[gremily]

I'd try some pawpaw cream, it's a miracle cream for just about anything, but it really helps with nappy rash. It's not a barrier cream so it allows air to still get to the effected area. Plus it won't damage your nappies:thumbsup:
Personally I'd get rid of the sposies as they don't allow air to circulate whereas cloth allows air through.
Maybe spend some time outside without her nappy off if you're worried about her peeing on the floor. We don't have carpet so dd2 spends almost 1/2 the day without a nappy on because it's easy to clean up (I don't do this when it's poo day though;) )

[aardvark]

I'd second the curash.

Also don't use wipes. Use face washers or cotton wool with chamomile tea for cleaning the nappy area.

[Areca]

Thanks..I'll be off to get some curash shortly!!
We don't have an outside...we live in an apartment and poo free days..what are they? :lol: DD poo's at least twice a day!

[pookiesossige]

Have you got Curash powder ? That stuff works wonders if you don't want to use a cream and it's safe to use with MCN.


Just a couple of weeks ago I was soooo sceptical about using powders- I felt like Ariene needed that thick gooey layer of Daktozin to begin to heal up- but I was wrong. That stuff (Curash powder- forget talc-based general baby powders) is great. Allows air to fully circulate around the bum.

Damp facewashers and more nappy free time should help too.. It's heartbreaking when they have a bad bad rash, isn't it :(

[FourAngelKisses]

Use the bepanthen but sprinkle powder over the top of it. It turns the cream into a tough crust and keeps the moisture out better.

[gremily]

Make sure if the rash sticks around too long (like a few days) and just isn't clearing up, take her straight to the Dr. She may need an antibacterial cream that nothing else will clear up. Hopefully it's not though.

[Mummy-2-2]

also try raw silk liners with no cream, they work SO well. Calendula cream and paw paw ointment are good too.

Just be really careful with using barrier creams cos in the even that the rash turns to thrush (My dd did and didnt go away for about 6 months) the barrier creams dont allow air in and it gets worse and worse and worse. DD still has red marks from the sores she had on her bottom. and that is four or five months later now.

Good luck

[kirstenriley]

i definately second the silk liners and paw paw cream:thumbsup:

[waawa]

I'd try some pawpaw cream, it's a miracle cream for just about anything, but it really helps with nappy rash. It's not a barrier cream so it allows air to still get to the effected area.

Pawpaw ointments vary - the commonest one, Lucas Papaw, is about 95% petroleum jelly, so definitely is a barrier ointment.

Lara

[mum33]

Pawpaw ointments vary - the commonest one, Lucas Papaw, is about 95% petroleum jelly, so definitely is a barrier ointment.

Lara

whatever it is, its defenitely better than that bepanthen.. when DS had bad nappy rash where he had red raw broken skin the bepanthen wouldnt even stick to the skin. that lucas pawpaw stuff works miracles. and its more natural than all those other nappy rash creams... the paw paw stuff works on almost anything and can be used as a lip balm too. no i am not a sales rep for them, they just saved me lots of sleepless nights when DS was in pain with his really bad nappy rash.

[sasha]

Whenever my daughter used to get a bit of nappy rash if she was teething, I used Savlon. This always worked really well, and the rash would disappear within a few nappy changes. There is also no risk of it causing build ups on the nappies :)

Good luck, I hope it clears up really soon.

[waawa]

that lucas pawpaw stuff works miracles. and its more natural than all those other nappy rash creams...

Crude oil is naturally occurring, I'll agree with you there. Not sure if petrolatum still qualifies after all the processing, but since there's no legal definition of "natural" in Australia, whatever floats your boat.

A lot of people choose not to use petrolatum on their babies or themselves, and it's a shame that companies don't label their ingredients on their products so these people can readily make an informed choice.

Lara

[gremily]

Pawpaw ointments vary - the commonest one, Lucas Papaw, is about 95% petroleum jelly, so definitely is a barrier ointment.

Lara

Yeah, I know, I don't use the Lucas because of that. I have one from Healthy Habitat that's fantastic. Has a totally different texture to the Lucas pawpaw.

[KarniF00l]

Lucas' paw paw ointment is awesome for just about anything and everything.. boils, burns cracked skin, cuts, chaffings, insect bites, open wounds aswell as nappy rash so it's good to have it laying around.
The only time i use it is when Dakota is having nappy free time and wait for it to soak in a little before putting her nappy on but if she isn't having any nappy free time that's where the Curash powder comes in. Both Lucas' paw paw ointment and Curash powder are magical and i would never use anything else but them two. I don't even use normal talc (like J&J's ect) on my kids after a bath, always Curash. Yeah it may not smell as nice as J&J's but the Curash powder is alot safer to use on them.

[waawa]

Yeah, I know, I don't use the Lucas because of that. I have one from Healthy Habitat that's fantastic. Has a totally different texture to the Lucas pawpaw.

They sell the Simmons veg oil/beeswax one, don't they? Ah, yes, here it is:
http://www.healthyhabitat.com.au/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=397

Lara

[gremily]

They sell the Simmons veg oil/beeswax one, don't they? Ah, yes, here it is:
http://www.healthyhabitat.com.au/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=397

Lara

Yep, that's it:thumbsup: . Compared to the Lucas pawpaw that is quite thick (I'm assuming to the high volume of petroleum jelly) the Simmons Pawpaw it extremely smooth and you only need the smallest amount that glides on beautifully. Super dooperly recommended:yes:

[pookiesossige]

They sell the Simmons veg oil/beeswax one, don't they? Ah, yes, here it is:
http://www.healthyhabitat.com.au/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=397

Lara

Thanks stacks for that link- I've tried the Lucas' one but felt that it was as if it were just a tub of vaseline (which it mostly is). But aren't the oils- petrochemical based or derived from other sources- all bad for mcn's?
I was under the impression that the Cruash/other powders was the only thing we could use?

[Areca]

I went and bought the curash...DD's rash is looking a lot better today!!!

[~Alicia]

I went and bought the curash...DD's rash is looking a lot better today!!!

I went and got curash today too! LOL only just used it though, so fingers crossed it works quickly. (thank Lauren)

Congrats on the engagement btw Carmen :smiliedance: :party:

[waawa]

Thanks stacks for that link- I've tried the Lucas' one but felt that it was as if it were just a tub of vaseline (which it mostly is). But aren't the oils- petrochemical based or derived from other sources- all bad for mcn's?

In my experience it depends on the base and on washing methods. I personally avoided waxes, but I used a butter base (mango butter and calendula infused olive oil) without any problems. I have found a hot wash with a modicum of detergent to get this out easily, but then I never needed to use it all the time, and didn't slather it on like some people do a paste. It was just for a little moisturisation and for soothing any chapped skin if a rash was threatening.

The people who object to petroleum products generally do so out of concern for the potential effects on the baby, not on the nappies.

Lara

[Percy]

DS had this problem alot when i first started cloth, but not so much now.

We have the sudocream that works really well for him. We have the curash powder though.

[gremily]

Thanks stacks for that link- I've tried the Lucas' one but felt that it was as if it were just a tub of vaseline (which it mostly is). But aren't the oils- petrochemical based or derived from other sources- all bad for mcn's?

dd2's spent so much time un-nappied so she hasn't really had bad nappy rash. But on occasions where she's done a poo overnight (not very often) she's had redness that I've put the Simmons pawpaw salve on. Clears it up in a day. It almost completely rubs in, and I've never had a prob with it on the nappies. I use liners so it would go on that before the nappy anyway.
She also used to have a full-body massage with Apricot Kernal oil, lavender and chamomile, which I'm sure probably went on the nappy afterwards, but it has never affected them.
If you were using oil based salves/creams/etc at every nappy change it may have some effect on the MCN, but I'd still prefer to use that over a chemical laden alternative (just imo though.).