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LA62
08-12-2006, 14:16
:confused: what are the pro's and cons of doing this

i feel cruel:crying:

i had a letter from my vet saying tobie was at the right age to do this and im not sure what to do

Any advice and opinions would be much appreciated:thumbsup:

Mamaduke
08-12-2006, 14:20
Someone will correct me if I'm wrong...
but I've heard if your dog is not going to be used for breeding then de-sexing lessens the chance of cancer in future years...:confused:
Then there's the whole 'no chance of unwanted puppies' - and having an undesexed dog contributes to this problem, even if you're not the one left 'holiding the baby/s' so to speak.

MissieK
08-12-2006, 14:21
I think it is a good idea unless you want your puppy for breeding. We have 2 puppies and they are much better behaved since they were desexed.

Melissa

meme
08-12-2006, 14:23
yes. i think if you are not using your dog as a breeding animal they should be de-sexed. how much crueler is it that there are countless animals being euthanised because there are not enough homes for all of them. much better to stop unwanted animals being born and then killed.

MrsMiggins
08-12-2006, 14:25
Don't feel bad! :)

It's a simple operation and it does, as MD said, lessen their chances of cancer in later years.

Also, if your dog is a male, it can significantly decrease behavioural problems such as incessant barking, biting & chewing, general aggressive behaviour & trying to run away.

If you have doubts, speak to your vet, as they will be more than happy to go over the pros & cons with you, I'm sure! :)

bigglet
08-12-2006, 14:26
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

It is NOT a cruel thing to do and having worked in vet clinics and shelters I believe it is cruel(er) to have unwanted puppies and animals put down because homes cannot be found for them.

The benefits of desexing FAR FAR FAR outweighs any risks or disadvantages (which unless you want to breed are pretty much nil).

Here is a list:
Health

* Reduced risk of getting cancer or other diseases of the reproductive organs, such as testicular cancer, prostate cancer/disorders in males, and cystic ovaries, ovarian tumors, acute uterine infections and breast cancer in females, and also other diseases like mammary cancer, perianal tumors and perianal hamias.
* Females can suffer from physical and nutritional exhaustion if continually breeding.
* Pets generally live longer and healthier lives.

Behavioural

* Pets are less prone to wander, fight, and are less likely to get lost or injured.
* Reduces territorial behaviour such as spraying indoors.
* Less likely to suffer from anti-social behaviors. They become more affectionate and become better companions.
* Eliminates "heat" cycles in female cats and their efforts to get outside in search for a mate.
* Eliminates male dogs' urge to "mount" people's legs.

Sarie
08-12-2006, 15:21
Breeding puppies takes a lot of time and hard work, not just in raising them but finding them homes also. Dogs are able to get pregnant from 6 months of age, they should be desexed before this time, usually at around the 5 month mark.

LA62
08-12-2006, 15:27
:hugs: thanks for your replies

i think i will het him done

we are ogg to sydney 2 see the rellos and they have the same dog whos about four months and a girl

would not like them to get upto any funny business and get grandpuppies!

hes already taken to humping soft toys:rolleyes: :laughing:

Squiggles
08-12-2006, 15:27
Yep - our female dog is de sexed and was as a pup. Our male German Shep was not allowed to be desexed as the breeder did not hand over full pedigree to us as she wanted to breed from him... well 4 years on and that hasn't happened and I feel cruel chopping his bits off now as it will have a greater effect on his personality and be a bit more ouch for him!!! Our vet def recommends it as early as they can... and especially in Males it reduces the risk of cancer.

Seekrit
08-12-2006, 15:30
:hugs: thanks for your replies

i think i will het him done

we are ogg to sydney 2 see the rellos and they have the same dog whos about four months and a girl

would not like them to get upto any funny business and get grandpuppies!

hes already taken to humping soft toys:rolleyes: :laughing:

You're not cruel. The cruel people are the backyard breeders!

However, I will warn, the humping is a sign of dominance and might not be fixed when desexing :) My family poodle will still hump new dogs who enter the house, and he was desexed 14 years ago!!

Mum2Tyla
08-12-2006, 16:20
Hi,
I am avet nurse and I agree with most of what has been sais the helath and behavioural benefits far outweigh any cons
Kelly:)

shed
08-12-2006, 16:28
Yes, unless you are thinking of breeding it is far less cruel than to let them have those urges without any form of outlet.

We have two dogs, a male german shepherd who got desexed when I starting going out with DP (it took a while to wear him down to agree to it, I think he thought it was him getting de-knackered LOL and then I had to pay for it!) and a female West Highland White terrier who is not desexed because I am going to breed her when she comes into season next time.

Its taken me ages (two and a half years) to find the right dog to breed my Westie with and I have to send her away to Taree. Its going to cost a thousand bucks, eek, but it something I have always wanted to do.

reAllytee
08-12-2006, 16:35
Its taken me ages (two and a half years) to find the right dog to breed my Westie with and I have to send her away to Taree. Its going to cost a thousand bucks, eek, but it something I have always wanted to do.

Oh yeah !
Being a breeder is not the way to make money thats for sure !!!!
I planned to do this with my Labrador but when i looked into all the costs i was starting to second guess the idea but thought no its my passion so i shouldnt be looking at it in terms of making me $$$ but then she was attacked so it ended that idea :(

What makes me angry is backyard breeders who do, do it for $$$ with little knowledge, information & with little care to the welfare of the animals :mad:

I dont think i can add anymore on the de-sexing front everyone has given great advice !
Its not cruel but the fact you are worried shows you are a great owner :hugs:

Ryan&RileysMum
08-12-2006, 16:48
:confused: what are the pro's and cons of doing this

i feel cruel:crying:

i had a letter from my vet saying tobie was at the right age to do this and im not sure what to do

Any advice and opinions would be much appreciated:thumbsup:
well not only have i been studying vet nursing
but i have a friend who does animal rescue
she isnt attatched to any sort of organisation
and she does it all out of her own money
its very sad listening to the lateset arrivals story
ie tied to the clothes line tied to a front fence
i found one tied to the council fence he would of been put to sleep if i hadnt of taken him home these are the things you SHOULD worry about if you dog ever had pups
imo de-sexing is the only way to go there are too many unwanted animals out there already letting a dog have more puppies is just making the situation worse unless i had a 110% pure bred animal and were using them to breed more purebreds i wouldnt dare let my pet run round not spayed

LA62
08-12-2006, 17:38
I dont think i can add anymore on the de-sexing front everyone has given great advice !
Its not cruel but the fact you are worried shows you are a great owner :hugs:[/quote]

Oh yes only cause i dont want to hurt him...and no it was never my intention to breed him just wanted a doggie to love and boy do we love him:yes:

but i will do whats best for him and have him de-sexed :( do they suffer any pain:confused:

Ryan&RileysMum
08-12-2006, 18:00
i think its like having a normal c/s
you can opt for your dog to be given pain killers
i always have said yes to this
apart from that they seem to be fine
just be careful as they will be tender

reAllytee
08-12-2006, 18:12
but i will do whats best for him and have him de-sexed :( do they suffer any pain:confused:


No not at all with a male the procedure is so easy & quick its done in like 15mins !!!!
They make such a small incision it shouldnt even require stitches !
They are always a little sad & sorry for themselves the following day but it doesnt take them long to bounce back.
All of mine who were done at 6mths have had no dramas at all. My Labrador was done at 18mths & being an older female it was more expensive etc but being the typical Lab she didnt even bat an eyelid we were the ones trying to keep her calm so she didnt split her stitches !!!!!

LA62
08-12-2006, 18:49
No not at all with a male the procedure is so easy & quick its done in like 15mins !!!!
They make such a small incision it shouldnt even require stitches !
They are always a little sad & sorry for themselves the following day but it doesnt take them long to bounce back.
All of mine who were done at 6mths have had no dramas at all. My Labrador was done at 18mths & being an older female it was more expensive etc but being the typical Lab she didnt even bat an eyelid we were the ones trying to keep her calm so she didnt split her
stitches !!!!!

:hugs: Thankyou hon!

i feel heaps better now

On the day i wont let the kids near him :devil6: :no:

snd mummy will give extra loves...just hop i dont smother him:rolleyes:

bubbasmum
08-12-2006, 19:49
We just got our puppy desexed on Monday and he was absoulutely fine when i picked him up. He was a little out of it but he was still hypo as normal. He didnt seem like he was in any pain either. Im glad we got him done.

reAllytee
08-12-2006, 22:18
Thankyou hon!

i feel heaps better now

On the day i wont let the kids near him :devil6: :no:

snd mummy will give extra loves...just hop i dont smother him:rolleyes:

Oh lotsa extra love will do no harm hehe.
He will lap it up :D