biracial babies

[jas]

we have just moved to perth and would like to meet some biracial playmates for my 18 month old daughter my husband is from cameroon and i am australian, we have been living in china for the last year so she dosent have any friends and i would love her to meet some fellow biracial babies

[WeThree]

just wondering why your little girls playmates have to be biracial? :)

[jas]

sorry that does sound bad i was hoping for her to find a few biracial friends as i think its good for her to meet children similar to herself but of course i would like her to have friends of any race/ colour etc... I would like to meet ppl with babies around the same age (18 months) to do things like go to the zoo, park, beach etc

[WeThree]

oh ok just wondering. children dont tend to notice differences like that unless we point it out to them by telling them they are differnet and need to play with 'their own kind' so i was just curious as to why it mattered to you, whether it was a cultural thing or something :)

[Chickadee]

The family daycare we just left in Perth (and SO sad about that :( ) was run by a woman from Sri Lanka with a good ethnic mix among the 4 or 5 kids who regularly attended. It's not a playgroup I'm afraid, but if you were looking for daycare I can recommend her if you're interested. At 18 months your daughter would be youngest I think but all are under 3 or 3.5.

I do know what you mean about mixing with different groups. No offense to anyone, but I did find Perth to be very white with not as much mix as some of the other Aussie cities. But then perhaps that was just because of the areas we chose to live in. <shrugs>

[nemosmum]

I understand where your coming from Jas.
DS is Bi Racial as Im white aussie (with a mix of Italian/protugese/german/english and irish heritage) and DH is Indigenous and also has connection to french canadian Indians, so DS is of very mixed heritage to say the least LOL :D

When bub was first born I was a bit daunted and wanted to try hard to learn about DH's culture in order to help DS embrace his heritage. I also realised that it was much easier for DS to be apart of my heritage as we live in a very white society and live close to my family; we also live hours and hours away from DH's Aboriginal family so DS is not around that side of his family much.

Its not that we want to make a fuss about DS's culture and segregate him from any one but I hate it when people say kids dont see colour.......as I feel its very important for DS to know his black, to connect with his people, his land, his tribe and there spirtitual beliefs. We feel by him being around kids from a similar background he will be able to develop a positive self image and feel like he fits in, that he belongs. Which I think is what all kids want to feel, that they are accepted and fit in.

That said he is around my family all the time and he attends a day care two days a weeks where his around many children from diverse backgrounds (majority being white). So next year I am going to start taking him to an Indigenous playgroup were hopefully he will meet some lovely kids that he can connect with.

Its not about teaching him that his different but more about teaching him he is special, his culture is valued and should be embraced.

I think what your doing is great Jas as your acknowledging your daughters heritage and trying hard to help create a network of friends for later years, Im sure she'll appreciate all your efforts :D

If you ever want to chat PM me :)

[WeThree]

thats what i was asking orlandosmum, whether it was a cultural thing, whether she wanted her child to learn about her culture, background etc, or whether or not it was just because she didnt want her child playing with children who were all white, asian etc, but now i know! :) (dont know unless you ask :) )


Where we live now is wonderful, our playgroup and thomas school is full of children from every religion and country, i love this because it teaches children that although we have different beliefs etc we are all basically one and the same, thomas gets to learn about and to respect people of all races and religious backgrounds, and one of my favourite sites is to see him and his turkish friend playing in our backyard~ the christian and the muslim, children are great at breaking down barriers and showing us that there is no reason why we all just cant get along!

ps orlandos mum i hope you didnt take offense to my post, i think it is wonderful that you are helping your son to embrace his heritage and his families values and belierf, giving our children a sense of pride and belonging is a wonderful thing

[nemosmum]

No I so didnt take offense Erin :) I thought your posts were honest, geniune and in no way offensive.

Your right children are wonderful, they dont have years of inbuilt unconsious and consious prejudices like us LOL :D

[WeThree]

good im glad, i get all panicky and worried when i think i have offended or upset anyone :)

[nemosmum]

I know me too LOL :)

[Kamaikia]

I also have a bi racial child. His father is aboriginal and I am white. '
I think that as parents we do need to make our children see black, white asian etc - teach them that we are all different - but to embrace the difference instead of fearing it.

[nemosmum]

I so agree with you K, differences are great as they make us unique and i dont agree with teaching children were all the same coz um gee were actually NOT. That doesnt mean we need to be negetive about our differences, in fact it should be a positive thing. Thats not to say I teach DS "Hey your different from other kids" but we are open about his heritage and alot of people I know are uncomfortable about that, dont ask me why.

I saw Tom Cruise on Oprah and she mentioned the fact that his adopted son is African American and asked how he deals with that etc Tom's response apalled me he said something like its not an issue we dont see colour!

I just kept thinking yeah but I bet your son does, how can the child not help but notice his different and by ignoring it I feel they're just making it seem irrelevent and invalid. When in actual fact he should be embracing it, he should help his son explore his heritage especially as his adopted as well. Other wise how is this young boy ever going to feel a connection to his past, to his people.........by connecting with our family's background and culture we ourselves feel that we belong that we come from something special. Very sad in my opinon.

[kiara]

My partner is part Indigenous and he was always going on how big his family is, the funnier part to that is his last name is Smith. Anyway he was talking about his daughter one day and pointed out this boy and said that he was his daughters Uncle. I wasn't sure how this worked as I know that her mum only has 1 sister. He explained that if you are in the same blood line that you address them as Aunty or Unlce. I never knew this. It also amazed me how we can all live in one society and know so little about each other.

I'm just generalising this, not saying everyone is as culturally naive as I am. Probably up until this moment I thought I was very culturally diverse due to planning many activities for the children in my care

Kiara

[nemosmum]

Hey Kiara I just PM you about your last post I hope you dont mind, just wanted to ask you a Q. LOL :D

[kiara]

Hi orlandosmum,

I have replied to your PM. I did find it all a little amusing. :)

Kiara

[nemosmum]

Hey Kiara ,

Thanks and I cant wait to see if it ruly is small world after all LOL :D

[Kamaikia]

Hi orlandosmum I'm really curious about something. Your son has so much different blood in him what does he look like. Is he dark, light, have aboriginal, white or indian features? Hope you don't mind my asking. My son is pretty dark skinned and I can't count the times people have looked at him then at me and asked if I am babysitting. :)

[nemosmum]

Hi K,

Yeah DS comes from a mixed bunch alright LOL :D

DS looks so much like both of us its actually very funny! when his with his dad he looks exactly like him (my family joke that we cloned Orlando from his dad) coz they have the same mannerisms and the exact same smile and sense of humour. The only difference is DS is a very light coffee colour(like an iced coffee) and Dh is lets say a dark chocolate lol :D

But then when DS and I are together without DH people stop us in the street to comment how much we look alike as DS has my chubby cheeks and were both brunettes so its funny when people say "oh he looks so much like you" and then they see DH and go "WOW he looks so much like his dad!"

DS has gotten the best of both of us I think.......his just so darn beautiful even if I do say so myself :)

Before DS was born everyone always asked the Q. I wonder if he'll be white like me or black like DH........it did cross our minds too and when he came out he was just this perfect mixture of both of us.

Does your DS have any of your features or is he a clone of his daddy too?

Can I ask you a personal Q.do you find it hard when people make the babysitting comment? As I dont know how I would react to that, I think I'd be offended.

[Kamaikia]

I would love to say that it doesn't bother me but it does. They would never know that though. I know it's all ignorance so most of the time I can smile and say that no he is mine. Then I rub it in a bit with a little "he's beautiful isn't he - just has the best skin colour". You would honestly think people would be getting used to bi racial children by now.
It funny I came back to my home town half way through pregnancy so hadn't seen alot of old faces for years. After my son was born you could see the shock on their faces when they saw this little dark skinned baby in the pram. That I found hilarious.

As for feature he is a real mix. Dad is night sky black - he is probably chocolate. Dads nose, ears, feet and face shape. My eye shape, but his eyes are almost black they are that dark (have been since birth, I thought all babies were born with blue eyes?) My big lips.
Its the same with my boy, some people say he is all me, others say he is his father. I can see both. He has his father facial expressions though - the frown in identical.
Then there are stupid things - he is impatient like me, quiet like his father and laughs at nothing like his father. A real charmer he is - its quite cute - lately when we have been out he has been telling girls they are pretty. He is only 1 but knows how to work the ladies already.

[nemosmum]

Hey K,

Your little man sounds so cute :p Your gonna have your hands full when he hits the teen years LOL I dont know how Im gonna deal with DS having girlfriends :eek:

I dont know how I would handle it if people were always commenting on Orlando's "Skin" etc I'd probably bite their heads off LOL

This is a very personal area and a sensitive issue but I too have thought how it would feel to have a baby that basically doesnt look anything like me(skin colour).

I have a friend whose white and her hubby is samoan, their first bub was coffee coloured like DS and their 2nd child was very dark just like her daddy. I always wondered if that feels different? I know crazy but the human mind does wonder.

Orlando went through a stage were he was very light (when he was about 4 months old) and I always wondered are people staring at DH and DS together becoz they look cute or becoz they're wondering why this black guy's holding a white baby LOL :D Now that DS is older and a little darker we no longer have that problem.

DH is always saying Orlando will "darken up" in summer time I dont know if DH is overly concerned with this or not. I know Im not concerned at all, I think as long as he knows and embraces his culture then it wont matter what colour he is.

That said DH has step siblings who are Indigenous on their mums side, they are very fair with red hair and sometimes get hassled about it (people say oh well you only have a splash of black so your not really Aboriginal) which I hate as I think thats a terrible way to view a person (just on what they look like)
But it must be harder for them to feel acceptance from the Indigenous community

Sarah

[Kamaikia]

I went to school with an islander girl. She was very dark skinned with an afro. She was always with this other girl who had bright red afro hair, pale skin and freckles - I found out when I got to know them awhile later that they were twin sisters. I couldn't beleive it. It was hard for both of them at times. They had a problem that I'm sure our sons will face at some point - to some they weren't black enough - to others not white enough. So sad.

When my son was born he was really light skinned. You could tell he was going to get dark though. I was in hospital for 3 days and could see his colour changing straight away. When I decided to go home he was a yellow colour - the arguments I had with the nurses because they sad he was jaundice. I knew it was his skin but they wouldn't beleive me (although they knew he was aboriginal). They ended up doing 2 blood test (leaving lovely bruises on my new baby) before they would agree that it was his skin colour (blood test showed no jaundice).

Everyone is always making comment how DS will darken up too. I don't really care what colour he is but I can see he will be very dark if we are in the sun alot.
When he lightened a bit at the end of winter I received many comments on how light he was (like colour makes a difference to my love for him)

I'm paranoid about too much sun - I really don't want my baby with skin cancer or bad skin from too much exposure. When we do go out in the midday son I cover him in sunscreen - The best comment was someone asking me why I put sunscreen on him "he doesn't need it" not realising that dark skin burns just as much as light skin. So many things people don't know.

A good friend of mine who is also a single mum was talking to me about the money she receives on her pension. She was talking about how it wasn't enough etc etc (even though she works for cash in hand every week)

She asked me how much I get - so I told her. (it was the same amount as her) then she asks "so what, do you get an extra pay as well because he is aboriginal or do they add that on every week". Here was someone who has aboriginal friends yet she resented the fact that I got more money because my child is aboriginal. She has always assumed this was the case but never actually asked anyone. Her and her other friends have discussed behind my back how much they thought I got - always assuming s*** - thats ignorance

FOR THE RECORD - I receive not 1 cent more than any other single mother for my child. All payments are the same for black white and asian. I do not receive any more rent assistance or anything. I still have to sit on a list for years for housing commission.
I think the only thing that I got extra was my son received a TB shot when he was a few weeks old for free - thats it!

[nemosmum]

I know exactly how you feel K I get asked the same sort of Q's. The only thing we have gotten due to DS Aboriginality is the menunicocal (sp ) shot for free but now it is offered to everyone any way (it used to cost people $500 to get it done) It wasnt fair but at least they have changed that now.

I think alot of people think the Indigenious community get a free ride in re: to alot of things, like housing etc. But thats not the case and I would like to see some of those people live the life many Aboriginals live and say that.

I know my hubby and his family have never been dependant on the govt. they have always worked and are well educated. We receive minimal family assistance for DS (about $40 a fortnight) which I feel is fair as we earn an average wage.
But alot of people still will have neg. views, thats life.

I do worry though about DS being accepted by both the Indigenious and the white community. I guess I want him to feel like he fits into both but as I have never faced these issues personally it will be a challenge for us to deal with some things.

I feel very lucky that DH has strong connections to his heritage so will be a great role model for DS and I have alot of family and friends who will welcome DS into their lives as well.

Maybe its DS who is the lucky one...........to be so loved and have such an amazing family tree :)

[tyler's mum]

hey, sarah and kamaikia, i havent seen this tread b4 thanks for telling me about it, maybe i will find some people to talk to here

[Kamaikia]

Yeah its nice to have someone to talk to who is going through the same thing or who has already been through some things you are yet to face. Me and orlandos mum check in here pretty often.
And something for you to remember is - all those people who are looking down on you for being a single mum - just laugh at them knowing that you do so much more every day and half of them wouldn't cope in the same position.

[tyler's mum]

i never told tylers dad he is a very controling man, and would not be much of a dad, so i know i did the right thing and can give her a better life on my own

[nemosmum]

K- you are so right about single parents they do deserve all the respect the community can offer, coz I would certainly struggle doing it alone :eek:

T- you are a very brave wise mum to make such a decision. You are doing what is best for your baby and I am sure she will thank you one day and applaud the way your choosing to raise her :)

[tyler's mum]

i hope so, it could go both ways she could love or hate me for it, you never can tell whats some kids will think, but i know in my heat its the right thing

[Kamaikia]

I worry to weather my son will hate me for choosing not to have his father around but I figure I will deal with that when it happens. I hope to be as honest with him as possible without bagging his father.
One day she might go find him and decide you were right. So many possibilities.
I think one important thing is to make sure that as she gets older she has a positive male role model. It may be a uncle, cousin, grandfather, your future partner. This is something all children need and some don't get because there mothers haven't yet worked up the courage to leave there children's dead beat dads.

[tyler's mum]

my dad and my cousin tylers godfather will play a big pat in her life, she will nver be short of a male role figure, i know i have many years before this will become a issue, but im a big thinker and have been thinking of all this since i was preg

[nemosmum]

T you only worry coz you care so much about your baby girl and thats great.
Its not always nice having so much worry and stress in your life believe me I know I am such a worry wort :D but think of it this way if you didnt want the best for bub then you wouldnt worry so much.

Ps When I was pregnant all I could think about was "Oh I hope my baby likes me, I hope he really likes me!" Now all I think about is "Oh I hope he listens to me today" coz he is getting so independant and cheeky LOL :D he can climb on the lounge now and uses it as a trampoline :eek:

[tyler's mum]

tyler is already cheeky she has learn to fake cry and fake cough already, but i just think it's cause she is just so damn smart :p

[nemosmum]

Yah! I finally got a pic for my signature so you no longer have to be curious about what O looks like Kaimaika! HEHEHE

So come on its your turn now, post a pic or avartar as they call them so we can see your beautiful bub too!

Sarah and O

[Kamaikia]

orlando sure is a cutie. Now tell me, the computer idiot - how do I put a photo in?

[nemosmum]

Go to the Avartar Resizer thread and then download the program, its too easy even I can do it and thats saying something LOL :)

I cant wait to see your little guy!!!

[nemosmum]

Just thought Id check in and see how your doing Tylers mum?

Chat to you soon :)

You too K ;)

[tyler's mum]

we are doin well thanks, tyler is getting a bit moody from the heat poor thing... just like her mummy hates the heat.... your bub is very cute :)

[nemosmum]

Thanks T for the compliment :)
I had a photo of O and his daddy up yesterday so you could see the resembalance to your little Tyler but then I had to take it off coz I was getting too many wolf whistles from the ladies on here.......he is rather HOT hehehehe :p Only kidding. Ill put him up again when I get a chance :D
ps Ive put it back up :)

[Kamaikia]

Ok call me dumb but I can't find the avartar resizer thread anywhere? Help, I want to get a picture up to show you guys.

[draught]

Here is the link

Avatar resizer (http://www.jql.co.uk/avatarsizer.htm)

[Kamaikia]

Thanks for that - downloading it now

[nemosmum]

OMG K he is BEAUTIFUL :D you must be one proud mumma bear!

How do you spell his name again, I dont want to write it wrong and insult you lol

[Kamaikia]

Very proud - lookout ladies when Orlando and Naquahn get going - feel sorry for all the mums around here with daughters :D

[nemosmum]

hehehe too cute LOL :p I can just picture it now.........two deadly Indigenous brothers cruzing around! Quick lock up your daughters!!!! :D

[Kamaikia]

Orlando's Mum - have you noticed that there are onlyl a handful of people with bi racial babies around here. Surely there are more mums like us around here. Whats going on?
Its funny when I was going through DS photos earlier I noticed that the change in skin colour and features is really dramatic. In some he looks white others really dark others in between. Do you notice that with orlando - he lightens and darkens?? Or maybe I just had him out in the sun more sometimes :)

[Kamaikia]

Makes me thank god sometimes that I don't have a girl - I think I'd kill any fine young boys who were hanging round.

[Peaceangels]

I'll say lock up the daughters! Sorry for intruding on a thread where I don't really belong, but I just have to comment, Kamaikia your son is absolutely GORGEOUS!

[nemosmum]

Yeah come on everyone - get mixing LOL we need some more bi racial bubs on here!!!! hehehehe

I actually met a women at my mothers group when O was tiny and her bub was beautiful (Mum was white and Indigenous and Dad was chinese) what an amazing mix of cultures :)

Yes I know what you mean about his skin changing, when he was first born he did look darker but then he became really pale(like in my avatar, although DH makes DS look lighter lol) and now his skin is a light coffee colour but he does look white when next to darker skinned people and darker when next to whiter people.

DH was actually very pale when he was born, looked like a white boy LOL no kidding :p but he became darker as he spent more and more time in the sun. In summer DH goes very very dark.

[nemosmum]

Hey Ness your so welcome here lol especially with those gorgeous boys of yours, Im with you K if I had a baby girl I'd be worried who could resist such a adorable bunch of boys! :D

[Kamaikia]

Thanks peaceangels - glad he has a face I can be happy to wake up to every day :)
Oh please everyone is welcome in here - makes us feels like normal humans instead of outcasts. :)
Its funny we laugh about the colour. Next to me DS very dark - then a friends child (both parents are dark skinned) DS looks really white.
What colour eyes does orlando have - and what colour were they when he was born
Naquahn has really dark - almost black eyes (you have to look close to see the pupil) and was born with these eyes - I thought all babies were born blue eyed :confused:
When Naquahn was born I thought he looked white - but when he was put next to the white babies I could see a real difference. You could tell he was going to darken though - the tips of his fingers and knuckles were black - the rest of his hand white. And his *** was black too :rolleyes:
Your husband and Naquahns father look to have about the same skin tone.

[nemosmum]

O has very dark eyes too like his dad, there so deep and beautiful I love his eyes.

I knew he would be born with dark eyes, I already knew that its mainly fair skinned bubs that are born with blue eyes.

Its funny you mentioned your bubs butt coz O's butt was a purplish blue colour very odd but Id read some where that islander/Indigenous bubs are born with a bluish bottom, but dont know if that is true.

[Kamaikia]

Yeah its true that they all have that mark on their bums.
When my best friend had her first baby (she is aboriginal) she was only 16 and pretty immature. Bubs was light skinned with the dark mark on her bottom that no one really noticed (she didn't). When she took bub back to the hospital for a check up or something a few days later the nurses noticed the mark and asked what it was. She had no idea. They called welfare to report an abused child. Here was this young mum being accused of abusing a week old baby. She rang her mum in tears (who happens to work for welfare). Mum came to hospital and abused the nurses and everyone and told them what the mark was. A doctor was called to confirm it and she was sent home. This accusation did alot of damage to my friend though.
I noticed when my son was born the nurses were asking what the mark was - you'd think they would know.
Naquahns is really noticeable - sort of moved down a bit though but is very blue - looks like a brand new bruise.
And besides this mark naquahns bum was just alot darker than the rest of him - weird I know,

[nemosmum]

Yeah I find O's hips, groin area and thighs are alot darker than his arms/legs etc

Thats scary about your friend, but some people obviously arent taught about these things. Like I said I had read about it but didnt know if it was true, I just assumed so coz of O's little bluish butt :p

Im going to start taking him to an Indigenous playgroup next year. My cousin (who is also white Indigenous) used to run it and told me about it. Im looking forward to O getting to learn more about his culture and for him to meet other Indigenous kids (as we live far away from DH's family).

Do you get positive or negetive feedback from other Indigenous mums about your bub's bi racial heritage?

[Kamaikia]

Its all been positive so far - its funny if there is a dark skinned person around he really sticks to them - its like he knows something already. Naquahn has the ability to charm people with his smile, all different people and its sounds stupid but I swear to god he flirts with women. He tells alot of women that they are pretty.

I would love a playgroup like that but unfortunatly there isn't one in my area. The only playgroup here is got 5 very rich older married mums who tend to look down on anyone who isn't as rich as them.

While DS aboriginal family isn't close by I have alot of aboriginal friends and a few white friends with dark children for him to be around which is important I think. Its confusing for one friends bi racial child though - he is white but he knows he is aboriginal (he is 5) but can't seem to understand that he and Naquahn are the same when they look so different.

[nemosmum]

Hmmm yes I guess when they get to the age when they are learning about 'differences' it would be difficult for a young child to comprehend.

O has a little friend at day care whose dad is white Indigenous( we should think up a better word?) and mum is white so the little boy has blue eyes and red hair (very cute!) and O and him are the best of mates, they follow each other around and copy each other......very sweet.I always joke that it must be a 'Koori thing' they just must feel it.

Thats great that you have a network of friends who are Indigenous or have Indigenous children. I think DH misses not being able to see his family coz they live so far away.

[Kamaikia]

How far away are his family? Do you ever get to see them?
I am having a big problem though - can you help?
I have met this guy who is white who I really like - but besides the whole getting with someone when I have a child thing - I am freaked out by the thought of my son being eventually raised by a white guy. This is getting way ahead of myself but - do you think a white guy could love his white babies the same as he would love my black baby?

I told him I am not interested and he knows I was lying when I said I am just not ready for it etc etc.
Its so stupid - I have never been the person who would discriminate when it comes to who I want to be with but I feel like I have to now.
I would love to hear your husbands opinion - you know if you guys ever split would it worry him more if you were with a black guy or white guy?

[nemosmum]

Hi K,

Just read your post but DH is at work again today! its sunday for goodness sake, he should be at home with us huh :mad:
Any way I will ask him about your concerns but to be perfectly honest I think he would be peed off if any man white or black got to raise his son!

That said I think its wonderful that you've met somebody, he must be pretty special for you to be considering him as I know how picky you are (as you should be ;) )

I think it takes a very special man to love children (his own and someone elses) equally. But there are many blended families out there who have wonderful loving homes. I know its different in your case, but I think if you get to know this guy and give him a chance to see if his up to the challenge.

You deserve to be in a happy, healthy, loving relationship!

Friends of ours are in kind of the same situation. The mum is white and has two daughters from a previous relationship, her boyfriend is Koori and they have a son together. He has raised those two little girls since they were 4 and 7 and they call him dad and he loves them to bits!

So it can work. But you are right to be concerned, bringing a man into your sons life is a huge thing, something you need to think about carefully (as you are)coz this person needs to understand its a package deal LOL if you know what I mean!

Keep us posted on this blossoming romance ;) and Ill let you know what hubby thinks LOL his going to think Im odd asking him this :p hehehehe

[Kamaikia]

So did you ask your husband his thoughts - did he think you were crazy? (oh and has hubby got a name? :) ).
Well while I am still interested in his thoughts I'm afraid its over before it even began. I have happily decided that for the time being I want to concentrate on my son and myself. I really don't think I have the energy to put into a relationship at the moment - really don't need the drama in my life.
Maybe that sounds stupid but I'm happy to wait some more.
I think my son's father sort of killed my desire to be in a relationship for awhile. I thought I would love to be with someone but when the time came I couldn't help but think back and remember all the drama with him and think its not really worth it at the moment. One day I know it will be though.

Anyway how have you and Orlando been. Naquahn has been running amok lately - all of a sudden he has developed major attitude - he has started to yell at people and slap across the face - I just don't know what to do with him. Ignoring him doesn't seem to be working.
He isn't doing it constantly but I'm still going nuts. I have to admit though his laughter certainly makes up for his bad moods. He still won't walk though - too damm lazy. 13 months old - 14kg - how much longer till my back gets a break :)

[nemosmum]

Well I asked DH (aka Mike, Mick, Michael whatever you prefer, he comes to all three :p hehehe I prefer Michael)

DH, as I predicted said he would prefer "No one" and he did think I was strange lol I said what if you died tomorrow would you want me to get together with someone else and he said "No if I die, thats it for you. I'd prefer you be single forever" :eek: as if LOL

Any way Im sorry to hear your flirtation didnt work out, but like you said the imimg isnt right. I think its wonderful that you are putting Naquahn and yourself first, when the time is right you will know :)

O used to do the slapping thing (I think I might have mentioned that in the "Smacking" thread. Any way we tried the ignoring thing, whenever he hit me, I would just walk away from him. After a while he stopped doing it. But now his started head butting the table!

I was talking to Rynosmum(Katrina) and she was saying she stopped giving her son the preservative 288 (found in breads to make them stay fresher longer) and she noticed a massive change in his behaviour. Im going to start doing the same and see what happens.

O and I went to the mums meet on tuesday and it was great to meet everyone!
I had a migraine but got through it ok lol poor O was so over tired as he missed his sleep so when we got home he slept for about three and a half hours!

Sarah

[Kamaikia]

The bread thing could be worth a try - Naquahn eats alot of bread. Because he is lactose intolerant its hard to find food he likes that have no dairy in them - sometime sandwhiches are all he will eat. Maybe its the terrible twos a year early :)
The newest is the bath tub - as soon as he gets in he pulls the plug - if I try and stop him he goes nuts. Not great as we are on rain water only.
Typical male response - lovely to see he would love you to be lonely :)
Seriously though can you ask him - if you broke up and you decided you were ready for a relationship would it be better to him if the guy was black or white? would that even be an issue? Poor fella is gonna think that you about to leave him or something :p

[nemosmum]

LOL K I dont think DH will ever answer that Q. his got too much pride to even consider another man raising his son!

Hey Naquahn looks lighter in your new photo, but that could be because the pics turned out a bit blurry on my screen. I can see what you mean about changing colour lol some photos of O are so dark and others he is much much lighter.

[Kamaikia]

Yeah its funny but he changes so much all the time. Looking at his newborn pics you would never know it was him. He goes through major changes with colour. Really dark then really light then back to dark. Orlando looks like another little chubby bubba like Naquahn. I'll get a new photo up to show you naquahn when he was real fat :)

[nemosmum]

awww too cute, I love the pot belly O has one of those too after he eats a meal his one sticks out!

[Kamaikia]

Lol naquahn's always sticks out. Hopefully it won't be that way forever though.

[nemosmum]

Dont fret, they usually lose the pot belly when they grow out of their bubba bodies and become preschoolers :( then its time for another bub ;) Im so clucky!

I didnt see your pic on the "what do you look like?" thread LOL come on post one up so I can take a squeeze at ya :D

Let me take a guess at what you look like:

ok here goes............Petite, slim build (from lugging around your big boy LOL) blondey brown hair just below the shoulders, blue eyes and a tan, no freckles and your about 5'5 hmmmmm am I close?????

[Kamaikia]

So far from it!! :) It more like - bout 175cm (whatever that is in feet), at the moment I have browny red hair (that changes about every fortnight) thats half way down my back, slim? - I WISH!! Since havin Naquahn and the depression and all that afterwards I have put about 20kg on (disgusting isn't it) - am on my way to losing it and getting back to normal (which is a happy size 14). Yes I tan well - although my legs haven't seen the sun in awhile (I try not to go out in the sun during the hottest part of the day cause I don't want Naquahn to burn), a few freckles on my arms (about 5) but none anywhere else. What else..... green eyes that change depending on my mood, my labrets peirced (thats my chin), my tongue peirced.
I never got to see your pic - I only jump on here when I get a chance - you should leave it up for a day so I can catch it.

[nemosmum]

Ha only if you post a pic of yourself too lol ;)

WOW I was so off base here I was thinking you were a little short *** and really your this Xena warrior princess type :D

I know what you mean about the weightt and getting depressed I put on 20 with O too and havent lost a thing...............DH has been great and is still keen iykwim but Im so grossed out by the weight gain (I used to be a size 10 and very happy!). I am trying everything to lose it lol had my first hypnotherapy session on thurs so hopefully this will help me.

Come on let me know when your about to post your pic and I will post mine again(for a limited timeLOL)

[Kamaikia]

I wish!!
Its funny - I fully have a picture of you in my mind - I don't even know how old you are but in my head you are in your 30's, short and dark featured????
Size 10 I didn't imagine . I'm afraid I would look dead if I were that small. I'm pretty big boned so size 14 looks healthy on me. 14 years of intense swimming has given me pretty broad shoulders - which I hate.
I think that looking at me and Naquahn together you would never know he is my son as we look nothing alike. He has alot of my feature and a few of his fathers but doesn't acutally look like us. He looked alot like his father when he was small.
Hypnotherapy sounds good - my mother quit smoking years ago with that. I'm thinking of starting the protein shake diet - just not sure which one to start with.

[nemosmum]

No where near thirty LOL well ok im 27 so Im coming up to 30 but OMG I dont want to think about it :eek:

How old are you hmmmmm let me think are you about 22/23ish am I close? :D

Im posting a pic now, ha Im not scared LOL are you?????

[Kamaikia]

Well I'm hoping you are around cause I have just put a horrible photo up. I never got to see the one you put yesterday. This is me about an hour before Naquahn decided to pop his head out and say hi :) That gas was so good!!
And you guessed close - I'm 24, 25 in March - feelin very old somedays :) Lets hope you see this pic in the short time its up!!!

[nemosmum]

Hi Tanuch and welcome to the BB club :D The more the merrier, K and I were just saying there has got to be more mums and bubs out there like us :p

It was very interesting reading your experiences, and wow what a mixture of cultutes you have going on in your family! :)



K- I didnt see your photo, I cant believe we keep missing each other LOL
and I so want to see you after birth shot! I am going to check out when your on here next and we can post a pic at the same time!

Look how white O looks in my avatar LOL his actually tanner in real life but you wouldnt know it from that photo!

Chat to you soon!

Sarah

[nemosmum]

Ok K come on post a quick pic of yourself and then put your bub back up on the screen coz he is sooooo cute :D

[nemosmum]

Ok K I just missed you again LOL I give up!!!

[Kamaikia]

Hey are you still here?? I always seem to walk away at the wrong time. The labour shot is bad enough as it is the after is just terrifying!! 19 hours of labour - stuff all drugs - air con that breaks down - so not pretty!
Oh and its a great photo - really sets of his eyes.
We spent 5 days at the beach last week - I was so careful with sunscreen and not going out through middle of the day but Naquahn still caught alot more colour - his legs are so dark - not quite the same as the rest of him :) still cute though.
My aunty was telling me that I should be very careful with his skin as more dark than white people get skin cancer - do you know if this is true?

[nemosmum]

I dont know if more people with dark skin get cancer but I do know that they are just as likely to get skin cancer, just like anybody else.

I just love that photo! Did you get any more done, put up a link next time your on so I can have a look :)

[Kamaikia]

Well I'm back - haven't spent much time in here lately. First was the holiday - went to coolum - was lovely. N just went crazy at the beach - trying to crawl out into the waves. So hot at the moment it would be perfect there now.
Then he had his 12 month needles (a bit late) they were bad. Had a bit of a reaction - just very painful lumps where they put the needles and really sooky. Finally that was better and now I notice there are teeth coming. I have to admit thats one thing I hate about this mother job - teething time. He is terrible with pain. Teeth guarentee me at least a few days of no sleep and no time at all to myself.
I'm here at the moment only because he is asleep.
Got heaps of photos done. I am slowly getting them all up.
I am completly computer illiterate though - put up a link? :) What the?
So hows the christmas shopping going. I'm almost done - very organised this year. Haven't got N a great deal - Is O getting spoiled?

[nemosmum]

Hey K,

Poor N, teething is the worst :(

Link? yeah Im the same totally hopeless LOL I have been on the baby web site thread trying to work out how to do that!

Why not email me a pic instead Ill pm you my email address.

O is not getting spoiled by us lol but the rellies are a different story :D

We just bought him a cricket set and the toy story toys (buzz, woody, Bullseye and Jessie soft doll type toys) he is going to love them!

How about N? whats he getting from Santa?

Do you do santa? I dont think Ill actually tell O santa brings the pressies I might just not say anything at all and let him think what he wants???? maybe I dont know yet, havent decided.

Glad to have you back

S

[Kamaikia]

Yeah santa definetly comes here. I remember as a kid I loved santa. I loved the tree, all the lights and putting out milk for santa and trying to stay awake to see him is a great memory of mine.
He was involved with decorating the tree - well trying to pull the decorations off the tree. We painted the windows with santa scenes. He loved it, only things though for some strange reason he is s*** scared of reindeers - I've never seen him freak out like it before.

I got N this small pool for his birthday and santa is bringing his a really small slide to go in it. I've just bought his a couple matchbox cars (his favourite thing at the moment) and some books. I have found alot of aboriginal tales on ebay that I have bought.
I think all up his presents have cost me around $50.
My family have gone crazy though. I had to tell mum she wasn't allowed to give him everything she has bought him - its way too much. And my sister has spent a forture - my than me anyway on him.
Yeah I'll email some pics to you def.

[nemosmum]

Hmmm our tree only has chrissy lights coz of O's fetish with BALLS LOL he thought the chrissy ornaments would be great to play cricket with!!!!

Isnt it funny what kinds of stuff they are interested in?

O loves balls and sporty stuff, but cars and stuff dont interest him at all!

Yes I too loved chrissy but I was a very sensitive little soul and was crushed when I found out santa was a fraud and that my parents had scammed me LOL

I think Ill just let O make up his own mind and not tell him anything, DH on the other hand will probably fill his head with santa stories!

Where did you find Dreaming story books? and what types of books? please am very interested.

We have a great collection of Indigenous childrens books but could always use more , O's fave is "Big rain coming!".

S

[Kamaikia]

Yeah N thinks the balls on the tree are wonderful too.
Look on ebay for the books - go to childrens books and type in aboriginal. Sometimes there isn't much but at times there are heaps. I have been having trouble finding any new ones in the shops.
I got your email - sorry I haven't replied yet - I have just started a new job and things have been hectic. I'm just a casual but this week I am doing 6 8hr days. Its alot and I know I'll miss N but I need the money at the moment - rego due and cars playing up.
They are great photos - I can see both of you in N. Love O's big cheeks, you just want to squeeze them don't you. And you and Mick look good together - you know looking at him I would never be able to pick his nationality if I didn't know.
I'll get some to you soon - this is just a quick play on computer between loads of washing while N is sleep. He is feeling a big off today, I think its the bloody teeth again.
I've heard you talk about O's allergies around here. What exactly does he react to?

[Kamaikia]

Ok I might try and get this thread going again. There have been lots of new mums joining latley so any of you with biracial babies feel free to talk to us.

[Pixie]

hmm At what point is a baby bi-racial? excuse my ignorance!
Eliza is half Turkish half English me being the english side!

We have been speaking to her in Turkish well MIL and DP I can only say a bit I feel it very important for her to understand her background etc.

Anyway perhaps I don't belong here lol

[Kamaikia]

Well to be honest I have never actually thought what the actual meaning of biracial means. Where you draw the lines. In my mind though I take biracial child to mean a child of parents from different cultures. So in my mind yes that would make your child biracial.

[nemosmum]

Hey girls,

Great to see this threads been revived, good work K:thumbsup:

DM- Welcome and of course you belong:wave:

To me I have always thought the meaning of Biracial was a child with parents from different races iykwim (caucasian, asian, hispanic etc etc):)

chat more later as my keyboard is playing up again, it takes me half an hour to type one short post:banghead:

[nemosmum]

*:wave: *Am I a Thread Killer or what:eek: :D :laughing:

[Kamaikia]

You certainly are.
Its amazing though isn't it no matter how many times we get this thread moving it still seems to be just us doesn't it.
Your avater - is it an old one?
N is at daycare so I'm just trying to catch up on some housework - obviously not getting very far :shame:
We are moving soon - can't wait. Its been so hard trying to find somewhere reasonably cheap. I got a house through a friend for $150 a week which will be tight but we'll manage.
After not hearing from N's father for a few months he has suddenly turned up. Can't figure out why I am not impressed. MEN!!!

[bootiful]

Hi Everyone

Just came across this thread today, thought I would say hi! :smiliedance:

My daughter is biracial too. I am Australian and my husband is Mauritian. But then if you look into our parents and grandparents races she is a bit of everything.

Me - Australia
Husband - Mauritian
My Mum - Austrian
My Dad - German
My Nana - German
My Baba - Hungarian
My Oma - Yugoslavian
My Opa - Austrian
My Papau (2nd grandfather)- Greek
His Family - mauritian parents with indian heritage

As you can see see has quite a mix in her :p

As to the meaning of biracial it is a child whose parents come from 2 different races. It has little to do with culture in the first intances. Culture can be percieved from different angles.

I hope this helps answer some of your previous questions.

Cya! :thumbsup:

[nemosmum]

Howdy all:wave:

Sentara- wow what a mix:D
Your family sound very multicultural indeed, do you speak any of the languages represented in your families?:)

K- If Im a thread killer then you must be an Ambo officer, reviving it all the time:laughing:

[Pixie]

I read just not much time 2 post right now!

[bootiful]

Howdy all:wave:

Sentara- wow what a mix:D
Your family sound very multicultural indeed, do you speak any of the languages represented in your families?:)

K- If Im a thread killer then you must be an Ambo officer, reviving it all the time:laughing:


Hi Nemosmum

Our family is very multicultural,yes. I learnt german when I was younger but cant remember much now. I am learning French and teaching my daughter too.

I think that being multicultural is a great thing for a child..they can learn about so many things and get to understand about a few different cultures not just 1.

[nemosmum]

Ohh I learnt german in High school (as my paternal grandma, who passed away before I was born was German, her parents migrated to Oz in the early 1920's I think:) )

My Paternal great grandfather migrated from Italy and spoke 6 different languages, unfortunately for me lol my grandfather refused to learn anything but english (he didnt want to be labelled iykwim)

So even though we have a history of German, Italian and Portugese in my family it was never really spoken due to assimilation I guess. I think my family tried very hard to fit in once they immigrated and as such we have a very anglo saxon culture in my family (not that thats a bad thing but it is kind of sad too)
Especially considering our name is very European lol:laughing: so everyone expects me to speak another language!

My sis however is a flighty and speaks fluent french, Italian and spanish:D

She is going to teach ds some French when he is a little older as his daddy has some French Canadian heritage too :)

I agree with your view on M.Culturalism, I know that ds will have the best of both his cultures and hopefully this will give him some unique life experience and make him a well rounded young man.

have a great day everyone

sxx

[Pixie]

Well I am sure I should be doing something else right now like eating food!!!! Hard with a baby constantly hanging off my boobs :D

I am trying to learn Turkish (should be trying harder) I do think it's so important for our kids to learn about their language etc..I just want to learn so my MIL can't speak about me without me understanding + what ever she is saying to Eliza lol

[jas]

hello all
i am trying to learn french as my dhs family dont speak any english and i dont want to go to cameroon and be the stupid white girl who cant understand anything lol, i keep delaying going as my french is so bad, i seem to only remember the bad words!!! So at least ill be able to swear at everyone:D

[bootiful]

hello all
i am trying to learn french as my dhs family dont speak any english and i dont want to go to cameroon and be the stupid white girl who cant understand anything lol, i keep delaying going as my french is so bad, i seem to only remember the bad words!!! So at least ill be able to swear at everyone:D

Im studying french at 'Alliance Francais de Perth' academy. It is really good. They have great teachers and you learn quite quickly. First I did the 10wk beginners course. At the end of it i felt confident to go to any french speaking country and be able to get by.:thumbsup:

I have started the next 10wks of the Intermediate course and its still great.

Maybe you could look into doing a course. I find their courses are better than the tafe because they are native french people not aussies who learnt french.

Good luck and stick with it...i wish i could learn some swear words :p but no one will teach me :laughing:

Sentara

[jas]

merci beaucoup! that sounds great, i will defiently look into it!