M/S is in your head!

[TJ]

I've come to the conclusion that M/S is in your head!
Well it sure makes it worse.

i have been preg twice before and was feeling a little off colour before i realised i was pregnant. Once it was finally confirmed that i was UTD, omg the m/s got 100 times worse..........

This time around i have started of this pregnancy saying to my self that its all in my head and that i will NOT suffer from it, and so far so good.
Every now and then i feel a little queazy, but certainly not to the extent of what i would call m/s.

Sure there are woman who end up really really sick for what ever reason it may be.

But does anyone else think that it might be all in the mind?

[kymmy]

I don't think so. Cos i certainly don't wanted to feel rotten. i felt different each time I was pregnant. With my girl I thought I had cancer. With my boy I had very m ild m s which felt lke hayfever! And then with my bub it just went on and on and I was so sure it should have disipated at 12 weeks.

[TabouliRasta]

It was not in my mind....it was in my toilet:p

[Melo]

It was not in my mind....it was in my toilet:p

Oh me too, every morning I would get up telling my self I felt good.. My toilet enjoyed our regular dates though.

[Roopee]

Yeah so that explains why everyday i vomit 4 to 6 times- coz i want to? Nope i dont think so. Everday i get up saying "i wont feel gros today" and i feel gross as i say it. I have suffered all thru my pregnancies and i think if one more person tells me that its all in my head i will slap theres for them:laughing:.

If its physcological (sp?) i wonder how it is that i have been in hosptial on IV fluids, take cancer medication, and have lost a total of 5 kilos so far with this pregnancy.

[reAllytee]

You have got to be kidding me :thumbsdown:

Then tell me how i lost 15kgs in 6mths while pg, ended up at the doctors many times with them trying to drag me to hospital because i couldnt even keep water down & why i lived in my bathroom meaning i even had cushions & a blanket to stay comfy.
I couldnt keep the water down for any of my u/s & that was 4 of them.
I would vomit anywhere & couldnt stop myself so try being the pg woman vomitting in shopping centres, on trains or buses, in the street & in cars.

If i couldve stopped myself i wouldve because i hate being sick but there wasnt a damn thing i could do no drugs or remedies help me one bit !

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[ShadyCharacter]

I have a friend who earlier this year was forced to terminate a much wanted pregnancy at 17 weeks due to such chronic morning sickness that some of her organs were failing. I don't think it was all in her head :no:

[Mamaduke]

If it was all in my head how would you explain the acid damage to my back teeth?

[reAllytee]

If it was all in my head how would you explain the acid damage to my back teeth?


Oh yes & thats another thing i have too !
Just had two of my teeth filled due to this & ive been warned next time to pretty much have monthly visits with the dentist !

[Mamaduke]

Oh yes & thats another thing i have too !
Just had two of my teeth filled due to this & ive been warned next time to pretty much have monthly visits with the dentist !

So it is in our heads literally allyoo!! ;)

[CurlyG]

You know what, it's comments like this regarding m/s that really p!ss me off. Because I copped 15 weeks of morning sickness (basically had it from three days post conception :eek: ) and I approached EVERY day with the attitude of "I'll overcome it today!" and yet, that horrible nauseoous feeling haunted me day and night 24/7! I certainly didn't want to spend 3+months surviving on a handful of water crackers and water every day, but it is what it is. And every woman's inidividual pregnancies are different. Just because I had it for #1 doesn't mean I'll have it for #2.

Yes, this is a sore point for me. I've (repeatedly) heard all these comments before and I just think they're smug and insensitive :no:

[jamb]

You know what, it's comments like this regarding m/s that really p!ss me off. Because I copped 15 weeks of morning sickness (basically had it from three days post conception :eek: ) and I approached EVERY day with the attitude of "I'll overcome it today!" and yet, that horrible nauseoous feeling haunted me day and night 24/7! I certainly didn't want to spend 3+months surviving on a handful of water crackers and water every day, but it is what it is. And every woman's inidividual pregnancies are different. Just because I had it for #1 doesn't mean I'll have it for #2.

Yes, this is a sore point for me. I've (repeatedly) heard all these comments before and I just think they're smug and insensitive :no:

well said!

only i had it right thru to labour, and i certainly did not sit thru my pregnancy going - gee i am enjoying this sickness. please let me spew in public again, cause that aint humiliating at all:rolleyes:

i have friends who have had completely different pregnancies and think that is part of life- sore point for me to, maybe i will get a different journey next time:fingerscrossed: .

In fact it made me feel like a failure having it, i truly thought, have sex, make baby, glow, amazing journey. I did not know anyone who had a pregnancy like mine, and there is certainly not very much written bout sever morning sickness- so how could i have even begun to think it would be like it was?????

I had the sex, felt like i was dying for pregnancy, was angry/depressive, could not go ANYWHERE (food smells had me outside reastaurants gagging in bins,
spewed till i clogged sinks (sorry TMI), spewed all over my clothes before my ultrasound.....the journey was not what i expected.

I am glad you are not stuck permanently in the toilet bowl/bucket/street bin/plastic bag, but I do I feel it is a bit rough to say it was all in the person's head.

[FourAngelKisses]

I remember some scientists came up with this theory a couple of years ago....what a crock of s***.

If it is all in the mind, how come I got it before I even know I was pregnant with 2 babies that were so totally unplanned??

[Seekrit]

it makes me so angry when people say this.... good to see if's working for you but it wasn't workign for me. It wasn't pleasent to be throwing up every day for 20 weeks... then to have it come back 6 weeks later.

Then to have someone (usually male or childless) say to me "oh it's all in your head" I wanted to throw my spew bucket at them.

:mad:

[Aquamarine]

The only people that say morning sickness is in your head are MEN!

I wish that was the case as I would have undergone months of councelling before I got pregnant.

Sorry TOTALLY FALSE statement!!!!

I vomitted day and night for 4 1/2 months with all three pregnancies and I can assure you it wasn't in my head.



Me (31)
DH (31)
DS (4)
DS (2)
DS (10 weeks)

[Jenko]

I wish!! If only it were that easy!

It annoys me too. I always feel like people don't believe me when i say i have/am suffering m/s. I'm still nauseous in the mornings at 33 weeks pg. Same as with DD. Believe me...i really don't want to feel this crappy every day.

I vomited in the first trimester, and every now and then in the second. No vomits lately but that yucky feeling makes its self known every morning for about an hour or so.

[Gribel]

well, safe to say that Tara is not male nor child less.
...unless there is "something" she is
not telling me about..........


Sorry that you are suffering morning sickness, I never had any :smiliedance: , some people do some people don't.

I dont think that it was a insensitive comment, just her opinion.....

[Aquamarine]

It does get very annoying when people say that though. If you had suffered ms yourself the comment probably would have annoyed you a litte too.

It is a terrible, terrible feeling. My last pregnancy was especially hard as I had a 2 and 3 year old to look after while I had my head in the toilet nearly all day.:barf:

I understand it is her opinion and I hope that it helps her overcome her morning sickness but it certainly didn't help mine in ANY way unfortunately.:no:

[BlueGin]

Interesting idea TJ, and I can see where you are coming from. I'm sure you're not referring to things like hyperemesis (I think that's what you were saying, sorry if I'm misquoting you :)) but the plain old queasies.

A bit like a headache versus a migraine. I get both (pre-preg) and one day I decided headaches were - you guessed it - all in my head. I can now get rid of 90% of my headaches by mental effort, as I have worked on this. I still need lots of "help" to lessen migraines (read:drugs drugs drugs) but they are a different thing.

I can see why all of you who've suffered severe morning sickness are upset, especially those who've had the lovely comments telling you to get over it while you're currently :barf:
but I think that there is merit in Deevine's comments. The mind is a wonderful tool, and we don't use it to capacity, I sure hope M/S is in the head in case I get it next pregnancy so I can't alleviate it a bit!

[Roopee]

So it is in our heads literally allyoo!! ;)



Yeah i also had to have 7, count 7 fillings after my DD1 was born due to the acid rotting my teeth. This pregnancy is NO different.
I have also vomited in the garbage bins in the shopping centre, on the streets, in the car, on the side of the road while walking my DS1 to school, anywhere and everywhere you can think of.

I guarentee you, any woman that has experienced this will tell you that if they could repeat the mantra "i will not be sick, i will not be sick" and then not to actually feel like sh!t 24/7 would do it. If only it was that easy. Each and every pregnancy is different and i think that you (the OP) just got lucky this time round.It is NOT in our heads.

[shed]

I think that people who don't get morning sickness think that they have somehow done something to contribute to that. Its nice to take the credit for things.

but I had the afternoon queasiness every day although I never threw up. I am dreading the next pregnancy because of this queasiness, so I am a bit of a lightweight really.

I think its been around far too long and is too common to be all in your head. Its hormones, every pregnancy is different so every reaction to it is different. They haven't really figured it all out yet.

PMS is another thing people have different theories on and that's hormonal as well.

[reAllytee]

only i had it right thru to labour, and i certainly did not sit thru my pregnancy going - gee i am enjoying this sickness. please let me spew in public again, cause that aint humiliating at all

i have friends who have had completely different pregnancies and think that is part of life- sore point for me to, maybe i will get a different journey next time.

In fact it made me feel like a failure having it, i truly thought, have sex, make baby, glow, amazing journey. I did not know anyone who had a pregnancy like mine, and there is certainly not very much written bout sever morning sickness- so how could i have even begun to think it would be like it was?????

I had the sex, felt like i was dying for pregnancy, was angry/depressive, could not go ANYWHERE (food smells had me outside reastaurants gagging in bins,
spewed till i clogged sinks (sorry TMI), spewed all over my clothes before my ultrasound.....the journey was not what i expected.

I am glad you are not stuck permanently in the toilet bowl/bucket/street bin/plastic bag, but I do I feel it is a bit rough to say it was all in the person's head.

You are not a failure ! :hugs:

I even vomitted my way through my entire labour was ever so much fun !


Interesting idea TJ, and I can see where you are coming from. I'm sure you're not referring to things like hyperemesis (I think that's what you were saying, sorry if I'm misquoting you :)) but the plain old queasies.

A bit like a headache versus a migraine. I get both (pre-preg) and one day I decided headaches were - you guessed it - all in my head. I can now get rid of 90% of my headaches by mental effort, as I have worked on this. I still need lots of "help" to lessen migraines (read:drugs drugs drugs) but they are a different thing.

I can see why all of you who've suffered severe morning sickness are upset, especially those who've had the lovely comments telling you to get over it while you're currently :barf:
but I think that there is merit in Deevine's comments. The mind is a wonderful tool, and we don't use it to capacity, I sure hope M/S is in the head in case I get it next pregnancy so I can't alleviate it a bit!

Yes possibly she isnt talking about hyperemesis but i can tell you that it all sounds nice & well to put it out of your mind etc but it doesnt always work like that.
I even had my mums friend who used to be a midwife say to be to begin with when noone dreamed of me getting hyperemesis that it was no use resisting feeling sick or the urge to be sick. Having a baby growing inside you does various things to your body they are a parasite after all !
Even "normal" m/s is not just in your head there is a reason you have it.

[BlueGin]

Yes possibly she isnt talking about hyperemesis but i can tell you that it all sounds nice & well to put it out of your mind etc but it doesnt always work like that.
I even had my mums friend who used to be a midwife say to be to begin with when noone dreamed of me getting hyperemesis that it was no use resisting feeling sick or the urge to be sick. Having a baby growing inside you does various things to your body they are a parasite after all !
Even "normal" m/s is not just in your head there is a reason you have it.

Fair enough, and as someone who has experienced it first hand, I'll take your word over my theory any day :hugs:

[annsam]

If m/s is supposed to be just in our heads then how can it be explained that its the first telling sign for many women who dont know they are pg?

[Chub Chub]

I STRONGLY disagree! And quite frankly it makes me really angry.:mad:

I didn't get M/S until 9-10 weeks but it well and truly stayed until 36 weeks. Not just feeling ill but vomiting EVERY day. I work in the corporate arena and it is definately not flattering run out of a meeting to throw up in a pot plant because it was all in my head!

My morning sickness is the strongest form of contraception for me. I yearn for another baby and it isn't the birth or the first few weeks with a newborn that send shivers up my spine, it is the "self imposed" morning sickness:thumbsdown: .

Here is one for you.......Bad pregnancy= good baby, Good pregnancy = bad baby. I don't believe this one but I am sure the same person who stated Morning sickness is in your head also stated this one!:gloomy:

Congratulations those who didn't get morning sickness but I think has a lot more to do with luck than any thing else.

[BlueGin]

I don't think anyone is trying to say that morning sickness is fictitious, or anyone's fault, or fun.
It is a real reaction that the body has to the hormones or whatever. That is why you don't need to know you're pregnant to get sick. However, nausea, like pain, is the body's way of protecting ourselves against further harm (like feeling sick when you eat off food so that you throw it up, or it hurting to hit your head against a wall, so you'll stop damaging your brain).

So the theory would be, that like the TENS machine interrupting pain signals (or the power of concentration doing the same thing), that there may be some way to interrupt the nausea signals (as there is no off food or poison in our tummies that needs to come up). Maybe in the future there will be a way to stop morning sickness, which I'm sure we'd all love, but it takes that person stepping up with the idea and risking being shot down first.

[reAllytee]

I don't think anyone is trying to say that morning sickness is fictitious, or anyone's fault, or fun.
It is a real reaction that the body has to the hormones or whatever. That is why you don't need to know you're pregnant to get sick. However, nausea, like pain, is the body's way of protecting ourselves against further harm (like feeling sick when you eat off food so that you throw it up, or it hurting to hit your head against a wall, so you'll stop damaging your brain).

So the theory would be, that like the TENS machine interrupting pain signals (or the power of concentration doing the same thing), that there may be some way to interrupt the nausea signals (as there is no off food or poison in our tummies that needs to come up). Maybe in the future there will be a way to stop morning sickness, which I'm sure we'd all love, but it takes that person stepping up with the idea and risking being shot down first.

Yes it does take someone to find a cure or the likes but even the likes of a TENS machine doesnt always work for everyone. My DP is currently using it as part of his pain management program now while it does work 90% of the time there is 10% where it doesnt. So to say to someone just get your head into gear & think positively & it will go away is a little silly. Different things work for different people & sometimes nothing works.
So for someone to stand up & have an idea is all good & well but to come across like this gets you nowhere.

[BlueGin]

Yes it does take someone to find a cure or the likes but even the likes of a TENS machine doesnt always work for everyone. My DP is currently using it as part of his pain management program now while it does work 90% of the time there is 10% where it doesnt. So to say to someone just get your head into gear & think positively & it will go away is a little silly. Different things work for different people & sometimes nothing works.

Those people who do get relief from the TENS machine would probably still be glad it is working for them, and glad that it exists. I know of no infallible cure-alls in this world, I guess that why medical research scientists still have jobs.

[Aquamarine]

I really don't think people who haven't suffered severe morning sickness have any idea what it is like.

Every hour of every day you are feeling sick all day (and I mean every minute) the only time I didn't feel sick was when I was asleep and it wasn't easy to sleep.

You can't keep a thing down, including water.

You lose weight and the smell or look of food is enough to make you vomit.

You end up on IV at the hospital for dehydration.

People who haven't suffered any of this and make comments about it being in our heads or visualising that your not sick are very naive.

I felt like I was dying with last pregnancy.

However the only thing that kept me going was the wonderous gift of a beautiful baby at the end.

Please don't even try to realise the impact that SEVERE morning sickness has on a person unless you have been through it yourself.

Feeling a little bit nauseous is nothing compared to full on sickness!



Me (31)
DH (31)
DS (4)
DS (2)
DS (11 weeks)

[cmd'smum]

Actually this is a little off the topic, but apparently scientists don't know exactly what does cause m/s. They have three theories, firstly, hormonal, or digestive probs as a result of pgcy or blood pressure. It may even be all three, who knows!

After reading all your m/s stories I'm soooooooooooo grateful that I don't have it much, just a little queasiness now and again.........:fingerscrossed: it stays that way!

:wave:

[Lirael]

I've come to the conclusion that M/S is in your head!
Well it sure makes it worse.

I believe that most headaches can be stopped by 'thinking' them away- it works for me!
In anything in life, being negative does nothing for you. some people believe in being positive and visualising/thinking things and what is so wrong with that? What about ppl being told they will never do something, believing so strongly they will and it actually happens?


But does anyone else think that it might be all in the mind?

yes I do to a certain extent. I think you can make things seem worse if youre negative about it. I had SEVERE sickness with my DS for 5 months. with DD there was none. I was much more positive and really enjoyed my pregnancy.

I am not saying being sick is in your mind, I am saying if you convince yourself enough you can make yourself sick. not just pregnancy related.

[cmd'smum]

I believe that most headaches can be stopped by 'thinking' them away- it works for me!
In anything in life, being negative does nothing for you. some people believe in being positive and visualising/thinking things and what is so wrong with that? What about ppl being told they will never do something, believing so strongly they will and it actually happens?



I think you can make things seem worse if youre negative about it. I had SEVERE sickness with my DS for 5 months. with DD there was none. I was much more positive and really enjoyed my pregnancy.

I am not saying being sick is in your mind, I am saying if you convince yourself enough you can make yourself sick. not just pregnancy related.

good point :thumbsup:

[melfunction]

I hope it's not in my mind :eek:

I know my first pregnancy it wasn't. I didn't know I was even pg for weeks.
I lost 14kgs in the first 9 weeks, was in and out of hospital on drips and anti-nauseants for god knows how long. I puked right through labour, but that was most probably the amount of gas I was sucking in and the pain....

This time is completely different. I can hold food down and eating actually makes me feel better :smiliedance: Speaking of which, time for ice cream :D

[charlis_mum]

I believe that the mind is one powerful organ & can achieve amazing things! I had m/s when pg with DD& was certain that it was not going to happen this time. I had heard of heaps of people who didn't have it in subsequent pregnancies & a friend who was pg with no2 & was nowhere near as sick, just the odd morning :barf: . So i was surrounded with positive thoughts & feelings about how it was not going to happen, it was all in my head & having DD to 'take my mind of it' was my solution. :fingerscrossed:

Which is why I ended up on a drip & maxalon at 7weeks, took a month off work as i couldn't be too far away from a toilet or bucket. I had to lay in the bedroom when DH cooked dinner or the smell would set me off puking again and couldn't changed DD's nappy for several months (i still have a bucket handy just in case.)

Oh and i also forgot to metion that i spent the weekend back in hospital again on a drip with 8mg morning & night of Zofran being pumped into me to keep everything under control. At 17weeks i am really enjoying the pregnancy so far - it's really good to realise that the sickness i experienced with DD was all in my head & by controlling it this time - i am able to overcome it all. :D :D

[Lil X-men]

Wow I am sooooooooooooooo sorry for those of you that suffer so badly!! I will not complain about my nausea any more because I haven't :barf: once yet, nor did I last pregnancy.
I just feel like :barf: all the time, but I can still function throughout the day.
I have a friend who is fellow bubhubber too and she was on the cancer medication that some of you were talking about too, because she was so incredibly ill.
Apparently those tablets cost something like $33 a tablet:eek: besides the point but anyhoo.

I had gastro last week and felt like dying as I hated :barf: so much and I lost two kilos in two days, so I can't imagine what it is like to put up with feeling like that for months on end!!
Power to you girls that go through it and come out the other side very happy (and relieved) mummas!!

I don't personally believe that morning sickness is in your head, I think it is an actual physical condition that some of us suffer more than others.
But I know that for people like me who don't suffer it chronically, it is possible to keep positive/busy and put it out of your mind and not feel so bad.
For eg: on days where I am out and about working and at playgroup etc I dont feel as bad as when I am at home and have time to notice it.
But I am one of the lucky ones, that is not possible for many other women.

[TJ]

I myself have suffered morning sickness quite badly.... not once twice!!
And let me tell you it was horrible.
I would wake up every morning expecting to be sick, and low and behold i was.
So this time around im taking a different approach and so far its working.

So its not like my comments are coming second hand.
These were MY opinions and MY thoughts......

Your brain controls nausea and vomiting through the autonomic nervous system, which regulates involuntary functions such as heartbeat and breathing. Different irritants such as smells, tastes, anxiety, pain, motion or chemicals can trigger the vomiting centre in the brain to initiate the vomit reflex.
So really at the end of the day m/s does come from your brain/mind...... if your brain didnt send the trigger you wouldn't be sick in the first place.
So to a certain degree my statement is true!!


No one has to agree with them, i never said it was 100% true for every woman.
Hence the reason i said "Sure there are woman who end up really really sick for what ever reason it may be."


This wasnt intended as a personal attack on any of you, it was purely my opinion and my thoughts.

[Chub Chub]

I really don't think that you were being nasty in your OP but maybe a bit of wordsmithing may of resulted in a different response. :detective:

Many women suffer morning sickness extremely aggressively throughout their entire pregnancies. It can effect all aspects of their lives. Where they can go, when they can go and it can be as extreme to result in hospitalisation and severe depression. So I can understand why some responses were sticking up for themselves and trying to get an understanding of the flip side.

My pregnancy was much wanted but at the time I would of given it all up just to feel sane and well. Obviously my DD was well worth the sickness but lucky someone didn't ask me at the time.

It is horrible to ask someone not to eat around you for fear of throwing up. My OB refused to medicate me as I was gaining weight, I had to ride it out. I stopped throwing up at 36 weeks and stopped feeling ill the moment my DD was born via C sect.

Yep....things blown out of proportion, maybe, but live a day in a womans shoes who has morning sickness and then you'll understand and only then will you understand the extent that morning sickness can impact on someones life.

[Lila]

sorry- i do disagree, too.....
it was in the toilet and i have lost 5 kg..
if it was in my head only- why can´t i loose those b=?§W/"%R)"§%UZ 5kg NOW :laughing:

[Seekrit]

Tara - I shoudl note that I wasn't trying to attack, just telling you how I felt about the situation..

(wanna catch my spew bucket) ;)

[TJ]

Yep....things blown out of proportion, maybe, but live a day in a womans shoes who has morning sickness and then you'll understand and only then will you understand the extent that morning sickness can impact on someones life.

The thing is IT IS MIND CONTROLLED!!!
Your whole body is controlled by the mind!!!
People who have all sorts of illnesses are able to cure them selves with a little positive thinking.
Not ALL, but definitly SOME!!

And trust me, like i have already posted, I HAVE had morning sickness previously, i know exactly what impact it can have on a person.
But if this is working for me, im sure if others were willing to believe and willing to give it a go, they MAY find it could help them. Not nessecarily CURE it, but it could certainly help


And Nikki..... i tell ya, i have done away with my spew bucket for this pregnancy, but hey if i need one, ill sure come and borrow yours if thats ok!! :p

[Chub Chub]

I am glad it is working for you but I think we will have to agree to disagree.

Good luck with your pregnancy...I know it was very much wanted. You are very lucky not to have experienced the full blown extent that morning sickness can unleash on the body, hopefully it stays that way.

[melfunction]

I am glad it is working for you but I think we will have to agree to disagree.


I'm with you Chub...I'm glad I know now that it is not in my mind or me and every other woman who has suffered ms would be all in the loony bin.

[TJ]

I'm with you Chub...I'm glad I know now that it is not in my mind or me and every other woman who has suffered ms would be all in the loony bin.

Maybe all preg women should be in the looney bin anyway!! With all the "m/s" tiredness, cravings and the moods I think thats where most of us should belong ;)

[tickle]

I'm just going to close this for a bit while I clean it out. Just a reminder if you find a post offensive please report it.

Open again for posting. Please keep it nice everyone.

[reAllytee]

The thing is IT IS MIND CONTROLLED!!!
Your whole body is controlled by the mind!!!
People who have all sorts of illnesses are able to cure them selves with a little positive thinking.
Not ALL, but definitly SOME!!

And trust me, like i have already posted, I HAVE had morning sickness previously, i know exactly what impact it can have on a person.
But if this is working for me, im sure if others were willing to believe and willing to give it a go, they MAY find it could help them. Not nessecarily CURE it, but it could certainly help


And Nikki..... i tell ya, i have done away with my spew bucket for this pregnancy, but hey if i need one, ill sure come and borrow yours if thats ok!! :p



Yes it can be but when a parasite is in your body things change.
I tried everything to stop mine & tried all the postive thinking etc in the world. I can usually do this no dramas but while pg its not possible.
I really do hope for your sake that you dont suffer from m/s through this pg at any stage because it can kick in later but hey then maybe that is in your head then.

Good luck

[TJ]

Trust me if i get "m/s" that badly and am unable to stop it, or end up in hospital etc, I will be the first to come and apologize to you all who have been offended.
But until then Im going to continue thinking the way I am and continue to be positive.

[WitchHazel]

I hope you don't get m/s TJ! Congrats on getting through so far - you should be out of the danger zone soon. It's not as common to get m/s after the first trimester (I think) so you may be one of the lucky ones!:thumbsup:

Good luck with everything. :fingerscrossed: you continue to feel great!!

[WeThree]

I've come to the conclusion that M/S is in your head!
Well it sure makes it worse.

i have been preg twice before and was feeling a little off colour before i realised i was pregnant. Once it was finally confirmed that i was UTD, omg the m/s got 100 times worse..........

This time around i have started of this pregnancy saying to my self that its all in my head and that i will NOT suffer from it, and so far so good.
Every now and then i feel a little queazy, but certainly not to the extent of what i would call m/s.



I havent read all of this thread yet, so my apologies if this has already been bought up, but how do you explain woman suffering morning sickness before even knowing they are pregnant? I was BF my 9 mth old and had not AF in about 2 years when I fell pregnant with my third, and without any missed periods to make me suss, do you know how I knew? That old familiar morning sickness feeling, there is no other feeling quite like it.
It really is not just in anyones head, and whilst I agree that positive thinking can occassionally in very mild M/S cases help improve ones feeling of well being, it has to do with the rise of hormones in your body, that is why woman pregnant with twins for instance will often suffer worse, because they have a higher level of the pregnancy hormones.
I suffered hyperemisis with my first and spent nearly the whole 40 weeks in hospital, you have no idea what I suffered, so to read that I apparently made it up kinda gets my nose a bit out of joint. You are entitled to your opinion of course, but I imagine the fact that you are not suffering any M/S this time is down to coincidence more than anything else.

[reAllytee]

I havent read all of this thread yet, so my apologies if this has already been bought up, but how do you explain woman suffering morning sickness before even knowing they are pregnant? I was BF my 9 mth old and had not AF in about 2 years when I fell pregnant with my third, and without any missed periods to make me suss, do you know how I knew? That old familiar morning sickness feeling, there is no other feeling quite like it.
It really is not just in anyones head, and whilst I agree that positive thinking can occassionally in very mild M/S cases help improve ones feeling of well being, it has to do with the rise of hormones in your body, that is why woman pregnant with twins for instance will often suffer worse, because they have a higher level of the pregnancy hormones.
I suffered hyperemisis with my first and spent nearly the whole 40 weeks in hospital, you have no idea what I suffered, so to read that I apparently made it up kinda gets my nose a bit out of joint. You are entitled to your opinion of course, but I imagine the fact that you are not suffering any M/S this time is down to coincidence more than anything else.

Coops this is where i need a hi-five emoticon lol !
:yelclap: :hugs:

[TJ]

I havent read all of this thread yet, so my apologies if this has already been bought up, but how do you explain woman suffering morning sickness before even knowing they are pregnant?

You are entitled to your opinion of course, but I imagine the fact that you are not suffering any M/S this time is down to coincidence more than anything else.

Yep already been brought up!
Like i said i think that women feel "off colour" or "queazy" giving them suspicions that they are pregnant, this is EXACTLY what happend to me with my first 2 pregnancies. And BANG as soon as it was confirmed it got sooo much worse.
But like i have said previously, this is my opinion, obviously i can only be speaking from MY experiences.

Well if its coincidence that i dont have it this time around then im truely grateful, although i really dont think thats the case. I personally dont believe in coinsidence, but maybe its more soo karma?? As i had it bad previously and now that i have wanted and tried to be preg for so long, this is now karma's way of "repaying" me possibly??

If it was entirely due to the pregnancy hormones alone i would have thought that i of all ppl would have experienced it right away, as in from date of conception, due to all of the HCG shots i was having due to the IVF this time around.
How do any of you explain this??

[WeThree]

If it was entirely due to the pregnancy hormones alone i would have thought that i of all ppl would have experienced it right away, as in from date of conception, due to all of the HCG shots i was having due to the IVF this time around.
How do any of you explain this??



Because its just luck of the draw TJ, different peoples bodies respond to the levels of hormones differently.

[Tam-I-Am]

I explain it by saying every person (not to mention, every baby, every body and every placenta!) is different - so react differently to hormones. That's like saying that if this medication is made for this reason, then every person would react the same way - but sometimes medications just DON'T WORK for some people.....

I imagine its much the same for any chemical, hormone or drug - some people react some ways, others in others.

I'm happy for you that you're not sick, TJ. But I think that there are a lot of people in this world who are, who are in a positive frame of mind, and I truely believe its just luck of the draw. You got lucky this time. Enjoy it! But perhaps don't make sweeping generalisations, especially ones that are prone to insult and hurt a multitude of other women.....;)

[TJ]

Certainly wasnt my intent to insult/offend/upset sooo many.
Just my opinion......

People are obviously meaning to insult/offend/upset me for voicing the way i feel and think. :rolleyes:

Of course everyone is different and everyone has different opinions, so why cant everyone "play nice" instead of attacking those who you dont agree with.
Thats what I think is plain rude!!!

[reAllytee]

There is also the theory that having m/s means you are carrying a certain sex & i agree with this to a point in that its strange that some women only have it when they have boys yet have had girls with no dramas.
My aunty cant actually carry girls to full term due to her hormones playing havoc so due to this she only has 5 boys.
Our bodies do strange things.

[mim1]

TJ morning sickness rarely kicks in full force from conception and tends to instead gradually increase and really become an issue from 6 weeks on. For me it got really bad by 8 weeks. Yes, you've had some extra HCG around, but we don't actually know what causes m/s, so it's not as simple as saying it's cause of the HCG.

Yes, the fact that nausea comes from the brain and the brain signals you to vomit is true. Assuming however that you can stop this signal is not correct, especially in pregnancy. When I wasn't pregnant if I felt sick (eg smelt something that was off) I could usually walk away and take some deep breaths and tell myself I wasn't going to be sick. It usually worked. The issue with pregnancy is that the reflex to vomit is extremely strong and despite all my positive talk in similar situations I vomit despite my best efforts. What smells or tastes will set women off vary at different times in the pregnancy and vary from woman to woman. For me, this morning it was off milk. I haven't vomited in over 7 weeks and I couldn't believe that it was going to happen again, but before I knew it I was vomiting.

That's the issue with morning sickness for me. It's not necessarily associated with nausea. Quite a few times I go from completely fine to having nausea and within moments I'm vomiting. There simply isn't time to tell myself I'm not going to be sick.

I tried for weeks just to survive the nausea of the first trimester (which was overnight for me and stopped me sleeping). I told myself I wasn't going to be sick and it rarely worked. I told myself I could go back to sleep (and often I would lay awake for hours fighting nausea) and then finally I talked to my GP and went on maxolon and it made such a huge difference.

[WeThree]

Certainly wasnt my intent to insult/offend/upset sooo many.
Just my opinion......



TJ, you cannot expect to say something that is so insulting to so many woman, whether it is 'just your opinion' or not, and not expect some sort of retaliation. To be honest I think people have been extroadinarily polite, gracious and restrained.
No one is attacking you, so please do not accuse others of being rude when they are politely pointing out that your opinion has been proven to be incorrect or if they share with you that you have hurt their feelings.

[Roopee]

I for one am pretty ofended by the Op's statemnts.
I still throw up all the time and let me tell you-if i could stop thse signals going to my brain i would.
Can you imagine how hard it is to carry on with my day to day life, look after my 3 other children, go to work, unable to slepp due to vomitting thru the night and feel like dying at the same time? My Dh has had to come home from work on numerous occasions to help at home as i have been physically unable to do it.

[cmd'smum]

There is also the theory that having m/s means you are carrying a certain sex & i agree with this to a point in that its strange that some women only have it when they have boys yet have had girls with no dramas.
My aunty cant actually carry girls to full term due to her hormones playing havoc so due to this she only has 5 boys.
Our bodies do strange things.

Actually, I was more sick whilst pg with DD, but 2nd pgcy wasn't and after m/c found out it was a boy. This pg is exactly like my last one, so will be interesting to see whether its a girl or boy, but my feelings say boy!

I personally think that that is just an old wives tale, and that you can have m/s carrying either sex I guess.

[WeThree]

TJ morning sickness rarely kicks in full force from conception and tends to instead gradually increase and really become an issue from 6 weeks on. For me it got really bad by 8 weeks. Yes, you've had some extra HCG around, but we don't actually know what causes m/s, so it's not as simple as saying it's cause of the HCG.


That's such a good point.
My M/S always started to kick in around the 3 week mark, increasing in intensity at around 8 weeks, now 5 or 6 weeks is usually just after most of us find out, so that is probably why you seem to think that most woman seem to get worse after they find out :)

[Worm'sMum]

I haven't read all the posts on here, but I'm guessing some people have become heated about this topic...I must admit I would have to disagree too, about it being all in your head. When I was pregnant with DD I thought I wouldn't get m/s as my mum didn't get it with any of us girls, so imagine my suprise when it kicked in full swing at about 7weeks - yep throwing up everyday until about 17weeks, it was horrible. But with this preg I assumed I'd get it again and have only had nausea and that's it :fingerscrossed: it stays that way!!
Also with the high levels of HCG thing, my mum's friend who had twins (and high HCG levels) didn't get any morning sickness other than slight nausea!

[TJ]

I dont think you have suffered EXTREME m/s at all- if you had, the thought that m/s was in our heads would not have entered yours.

I sincerely hope you never have to experience it- you will eat your words.

I never said i have suffered EXTREME morning sicknes..... hence the reason i am stating my opinions based on my experiences.

Like i have said a few posts back, if i do end up suffering from "m/s" and i am unable to stop/control it i will come back and apologize for what i have said.

But right now i dont apologize for what i have said, i do however aplogize if you have been offended by it.

I could go around and around defending myself here, but i dont see the point.
I think ill leave it at this.

Maybe my comments are naive.......... but i suppose ill never think differently until i have experienced it first hand.

Womens ideas of m/s and the extremes of it can vary widly.
So i suppoe vomiting 3-4 times a day doesnt classify as extreme to me, being hospitalised on the other hand does.

Women will tend to perceive symptom severity according to how they are feeling overall and how other aspects of their life are affected, other factors, such as the support women receive from their family, how understanding their doctors are and their diet influence how they feel.

I have suffered a clogged intestine previously so i am very well aware of the vomiting constantly saga and not being able to keep food down.


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[TabouliRasta]

I think that this thread has run it's course. It's a good idea for all of us to really think about how we word certain thoughts and ideas, especially over the internet - intentions can easily be mis interpreted.