6th miscarriage...

[nicki_mara]

I don't really know what to write. Yesterday I had my 6th miscarriage in a row. My DH and I have no children yet and we have been trying for a baby for the last 5 years. I am just so tired. It's what we want more than anything else but it's so hard when we just can't seem to get there. We have had heaps of tests done and are currently going to the Recurrent Miscarriage Clinic at the Royal Women's in Melbourne. I had a medium positive ANA reading so I am on 100mg of aspirin daily but I guess it wasn't enough. We are going back on Thursday to speak to our doctor so hopefully he will talk us through the next step. 1 miscarriage is a nightmare and bad enough but 6 seems to be pushing the boundaries of sanity. Is there anyone out there who has had a similar number of miscarriages and finally been successful? Everyone around us assures us that it will happen and I want to believe them but...will it be next year or in 4 years time...or ever??

In the meantime it seems like everyone around us is moving on with their lives and having babies and we just seem stuck in this no-man's land. We want to be happy for friends and family but it's like a dagger in the heart every time we hear someone has reached that magic 3 months mark (the closest we have gotten is 11 weeks). It's frustrating because we can fall pregnant without too much trouble - the problem is just keeping the pregnancy alive.

Sorry if this is too depressing but it's the day after and I'm still in a bit of shock and very hormonal. At least I don't think I will need a D&C as I'm pretty sure my body took care of things.

If anyone has any success stories they would like to share I would really appreciate reading them. I think I need a little bit of hope at the moment.

Nicki :crying:

[bronny-jane]

:hugs: wow 6, i had 2 my first pg's and it was hard to have faith......but it will happen:)

i took some herbal remidies, to increase my fertility and strengthen my uterus...i fell pg with in 2 months of my 2nd mc...and all went well.

i hope they can find out why, but dont give up, i believe in positive thinking, sending that vibe out into the universe......i hope next time it goes well:thumbsup:

[shorty_851]

:hugs: :hugs: :hugs: :hugs:

All for you.

[JuniorMinime]

Nicki_mara, my heart and prayers go out to you honey!! I am sending you lots of :hugs: to you and your DH.

My close friend had 6 M/C (same as you) had to go on the Asprin obviously. Then they seemed ready to give up hope but then thought right we aren't going to let in run our lives and we will carry on and if we fall then we fall. Then out of the blue they found out they were preg and ended up having a healthy baby boy!!! They have just had their second child (a healthy girl) 6 years after.

If you believe in god he does really work in myesterious ways. She never thought that she would have these two beautiful kids. When I feel down (as I have had 3 M/C) I think about her and it lifts my spirits up.

When we decide to try again I will be on the Asprin but my dr also said to go on Vitamin E as it's a natural healer and it also stregthens the uterus and the heart. I would suggest you try it or even ask your local health food store.

But if you ever want to talk please feel free to PM me and I would be happy too. I am thinking about you and hope your ok.

[WeloveHarriet]

Nicki_Mara - no advice but sending lots of hugs and sticky baby dust for your next angel.

[Roopee]

These :hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs: are for you.

I hope you get to the bottom of this and go on to have the family you dream about.

[Milliner]

:crying:

I am sending you lots of :hugs: I hope that they can find and fix whatever is happening with your special little bubs.

[HollyHotLips]

Just wanted to give you one of these :hugs:

[nicki_mara]

Thanks for all of your kind thoughts and support!! :hugs:

Bronny-Jane, I’m on Chinese herbs as well. I started them around two years ago and they have greatly improved my cycles. I also believe they helped us get to 11 weeks in our 5th pregnancy. Unfortunately it wasn't quite enough but I am still taking them as I really believe they help.

Becs, thanks for the advice about vitamin E. I will definitely run it past our doctor tomorrow and see what he thinks.

Ladies, thanks again for all of your support. I know I'll get through but it's just so heartbreaking to go through it again.

[*Sparkles*]

Just wanted to say how sorry I am to hear your story and I hope your dream comes true for you soon :hugs:

[M O P]

:hugs: Nicki,
I have no words of wisdom but I was touched by your story.

:fingerscrossed: and baby dust headed your way :kiss:

[natasha]

Aw nicki...my heart goes out to you......Im so sorry you had to go through this.....:hugs:

I cant even begin to understand how you feel, but i just wanted to let you know im thinking of you, and praying a baby your way.:hugs:

[nut]

:hugs: I'm so sorry for your losses.

[nicki_mara]

Thanks again for all of your support and happy-ending stories. DH and I went to the Clinic today and spoke with our doctor. He advised us to wait till I have 2 normal cycles before trying again and then one option is to move onto the heparin injections (as well as the aspirin). I'm going to do a bit of research and see if we want to go down that path. Has anyone had any success with the injections?

[wannabemum]

Hi Nicki, just wanted to send some big :hugs: to you and your hubby. Sometimes life isnt fair is it, I am praying for a sticky pregnancy next time (there is a baby waiting in the wings for you both, he is just a bit stubborn :p )!

[hayles86]

HI Nicki, I dont even know where to start. Im sooooo sorry for your loses. I know how it feels. My DH and i had 4 in a row. The longest we could get was only 8 weeks and it ripped me to shreads. I then feel pregnant for the 5th time and i said to my DH that if this doesnt work out then thats it for a few years, until we have a house and etc. I was so depressed and angry. But 5th time lucky. We ended up having a beautiful baby girl. So it will happen for you both. So just hang in there. I know it can be hard but it will happen sweety. If you ever wanna chat just pm me and ill be more then happy to talk to you about the way your feeling, as i know how hard it can be.
Haylee

[Towie]

Hi there,
I am really sorry to hear about your losses, I know how you feel. I had 4 miscarriages and also went through the recurrent miscarriage clinic at the Royal Women's. It is so bloody hard, I can understand why you feel the way you do, after my fourth loss I was really starting to believe that we would never have a child. I also have ANAs and was on low dose aspirin for my last pregnancy (number five, which I miraculously carried to term and my daughter was born 4 weeks ago) so it is very fresh in my mind, the dispair you must be feeling and the anxiety you would have gone through in your pregnancies.

Are they able to do some fetal testing with this loss? My fourth loss was chromosomal so the aspirin wouldn't have helped with that anyway, but if it wasn't chromosomal I was going to try aspirin with heparin injections, so that may be the next step for you if this pregnancy shows itself to be 'normal'.

It is a scary thought, all those injections but I certainly felt that I would do anything if it meant we would get our baby, no doubt you are feeling the same. The outcome on heparin and aspirin goes from 10% success (without) to 70% with the injections, so I guess if that is your next step, there is some hope.

I know how you feel about it seeming like things were working out for every one else. I also got to the stage where I thought that every woman I looked at on the street was pregnant, it is such a trying time.

If you want to PM me to chat more, I'm happy to as I know how dispairing I was.

Hope you are being kind to yourself.

Towie

[cannonk]

Hi Nicki, Sorry to hear about your loss's. I am in the same situation where i have had 4 miscarraiges and have had testing done which all came back normal. I have recently had some more blood tests and have an appointment with a fetal specialist in Westmead hospital on 12.7.07. I will let you know how i get on. It is so frustrating and i know and understand how you would be feeling. My friends, sisters all have children and i am so desperate for me and my fiance to experience parenthood. I have been searching for answers and some days feel i am going crazy as i am so consumed. Please take care and keep in touch xx

[nicki_mara]

Hi cannonk,

Thanks for your thoughts, sorry to hear about your loss's and I hope you have some luck with the specialist. Please let me know how you go.

Today is a bit of a horrible day for my DH and I as we unfortunately have suffered our 7th miscarriage. :crying: We got to 11 weeks and really thought things were going to work out this time but I had some heavy bleeding yesterday and some cramps and when we went for an ultrasound this morning there was no heartbeat. :( I am having a D&C this afternoon.

I think I am still in shock and am at a loss at how we can get so close to 12 weeks and then have everything go wrong. We had an ultrasound only last Thursday which showed a healthy baby at 11 weeks, 2 days with a heartbeat of around 180! There will be testing done on the 'material' (horrible word to use) and we will just have to wait and see what they suggest next. This pregnancy I was on aspirin and heparin (I have a ANA reading of medium positive) and was also taking traditional Chinese herbs. I also have a bicornuate uterus but they don't this should be causing the miscarriages.

Anyway, thanks again for thinking of me and good luck for the 12th!:fingerscrossed:

[Ali Jayne]

What an awfull time for you :gloomy:

I hope you can keep positive for it will all be worth it in the end!!!

Just wondering though, has your thyroid function been tested properly. It seems that if your thyroid isnt working properly it can cause misscariage. I have had an underactive thryroid and I have done so much reading on the subject and its amazing what your thyroid controls and how doc's do not test properly etc. Mine ended up being firstly discovered by my GP when I pushed her 3 times to test it but she still didnt do anything about it so I went to a great GP/ naturopath in Sydney who found the cause and went about fixing it.
For every woman to have a healthy preg and baby your iodine levels need to be right!!!

Sorry for the babble just really feel bad for you and I think everything is worth a look into!!

Good luck honey :fingerscrossed:

[Femme la Phoenix]

Hi Niki I am so sorry to hear about your 6th miscarriage I really feel for you and know what's it's like to have more than a couple of miscarriages too. I've hit double figures and it doesn't get any easier to deal with; it feels raw somedays. We find within ourselves from all the pain and anguish unbelievable strength and resilience to keep going and striving for what we know in hearts to be the right course of action; and just like the Phoenix, rise from the ashes.

I hope that your appointment goes well and that they can work with you to find your right dose to bring a little bub into the world one day soon. Please, as hard as it is, don't give up ... your getting closer too, it sure doesn't feel like it at the moment but your in a better position now with medical support - I am really confident that help is right there Niki :hugs: :hugs: :hugs:
~ thinking of you ~

[cannonk]

Hi Nicki, That news is shocking and i feel so much for you. 7 Miscarriages and being at 11wks close to the time they say is the safe period. My thoughts are with you and your partner. This is a sad time for you both and you must feel so frustrated and at a loss. Please dont give up, the time will be right soon for you both im sure. They may have to do more blood testing. Have they done all checks for antibodies, factor 5 leidon, hormone checks. I have also heard that if someone has a problem with their blood sugar and their insulin is high this can be a factor in miscarriages. I am going to ask my doctor about it. My date 12.7.07 has been cancelled and rebooked for 19.7.07 so i will let you know how i get on sweetie. My email address if easier to speak with me is kim.cannon@housing.nsw.gov.au. Thanks for replying to my message and sharing your experience with me as its feels good to talk to someone else going through it. xx

[No2WhereAreYou]

I feel so awful for you. I have just had my first m/c (1st pregnancy) and I felt I had a let down. Six miscarriages, you must be so strong to do that. A couple like you who really wants a child and has gone through all this really deserves a few children.

[nicki_mara]

Thanks for all of your kind thoughts.

BellesBabyDream, so sorry to hear about your miscarriage. Hopefully there will only ever be one and that your next pregnancy will be successful. :fingerscrossed:

Femme la Phoenix - thank you so much for your thoughts. Double figures? I have been called strong but you must be amazingly strong. I hope you don't think this rude but can I ask if you have any children? That has been one of the hardest things for us - we have not had any successful pregnancies - we can't go home incredibly sad but able to hold the baby or child we do have in our arms. I don't know if that makes sense - sorry if it doesn't.

Ali Jayne and cannonk - thanks for your kind thoughts and suggestions. I am making a list of things we may not have considered yet and am going to run through them with my doctor when I see him on Thursday.

The D&C went ok last night (The staff at Frances Perry were very kind and full of compassion) but today has been hard as the shock starts to wear off but the hormones kick in. Even though it's our 7th and we know what to expect it doesn't make it any easier.

Thanks again for all of your support - I really appreciate it. :hugs:

[forbetoel]

A friend of mine went through 9 miscarriages and then went on to have 3 kids!!!! I don't know what to tell you about why or how this happened, but I think the important thing is that it did. Hope-without it, there is no reason to smile. Dream- without it, there is no reason to hope. Good luck, I will say a prayer for you tonight.

[nut]

:hugs: :hugs: :hugs:
Lots of love and support your way Niki-mara.

[cannonk]

Hi Nicki,
All the best with your doctors visits and stay in touch. Rest and be good to yourself you will be going through a lot of emotions and feel like a basket case but as you know its all nautural and you will get through this. Talk it out, have a little break and get more investigation done. Im not sure how old you are Nicki but like myself i am 38 at the end of the year and i keep putting presure on myself like oh my god please let me have a baby before its too late. I guess theres no rushing these things. My thoughts are with you.:angel: xxoo

[tybella]

It saddens me to read what you have been thru please stay strong and keep having faith. Love to your partner as well. Raz :hugs:

[Tea Lady]

I"m so sorry to hear your sad news Nicki_mara :hugs:

[smallone]

lots of hugsxxxx:kiss:

[shereejoy]

Wow nicki-mara so sorry for all your losses, you must be so strong to go through all this. I feel for you. A friend of mine went thru 7 m/c's and then got a healthy bubba. I am hoping your next bubba is a sticker, you have to be close surely!

[Katcha]

Nicki, I'm so sorry to hear of your recurrent m/cs. :hugs: My 1st pregnancy was successful, although they discovered I also had ANA (but that wasn't discovered until after I'd given birth). Anyway, I had a m/c 5 weeks ago (well, am still in the process....probably will have a D & C). I was only 8 weeks, but had been told beforehand that I didn't need to take aspirin until I got to 10 weeks therefore had not been taking it....is it normal for women with ANA to start taking aspirin as soon as or before they get pregnant?

[bootiful]

i am very sorry for your loses :hugs:

sounds like you need a rest for a bit.

i hope all goes well and you have a baby in the near future.

[nicki_mara]

Thanks for all of your kind thoughts. It's been around 2 months since we lost number 7 and life is starting to get back to normal although it still hurts. DH and I have just spent a week up in Noosa which was lovely but goodness, there are so many young families and pregnant women up there!! A bit hard to see at times but we still had a good time.

Katelyn's Mum - I was told to take aspirin during my 4th pregnancy once I realised I was pregnant but when I went to the Recurrent Miscarriage Clinic (after my 5th) I was told by the doctors to take aspirin immediately because it needs to be in your system at conception. Maybe the best idea is to double check with your Doctor and see what they say.

[KatieKitten]

wanted to send my hugs...
and also say i know a friend of a friend who had 6 also, and on her 7th try she was successful, it wasnt until she was diagnosed properley with some sort of blood condition, which was too thick for the baby, that she was sucessful, so i hope your doctors can shed some light for you and you dont give up hope

xoooxoxoox

[Flicka]

My heart goes out to you nicki_mara. I just wanted to let you know that I understand what you are going thru. I have had 4 m/c. It gets to the point that you have no joy in seeing a positive preg test. However, I was lucky as I now have 2 gorgeous kids - a boy and a girl.

Have you considered something other than chinese herbs? What about Sharky's healing centre??? The only way I was able to keep a preg was to use their herbs, take good omega 3/fish oil capsules (must be with the mercury removed) and progesterone pessaries. I had 3 m/c before using this regime and then fell preg with our son. I had another m/c and realised the only way I was going to have another bub was to go back on the herbs, omega 3 and hormones and then we were lucky enough to have our daughter.

I found Sharky's healing centre to be helpful, supportive, compassionate and best of all they helped give me my kids.

Goodluck and I hope it all works out for you.

[shikha77]

Hi Everybody,
Iam new to this forum. I have had 6 Miscarriages so far and do not have children. I have been through a battery of tests both in Melbourne and overseas (India), bit can't seem to find the cause. After reading through a number of messages in this forum I have decided to contact the Recurrent miscarriage clinic at the RWH Melbourne. Hopefully we will get some info. Good luck to all.

[nicki_mara]

Hi shikha77,

So sorry to hear about all your loses, I know how heartbreaking and painful they can be. I think you are doing the right thing by contacting the Recurrent Miscarriage Clinic at the RWH. I can highly recommend them. I started going there after my 5th miscarriage and even though I had 2 more miscarriages my 8th pregnancy was a success and now I have a beautiful, healthy little girl. I saw Prof Shaun Brennecke and he was wonderful. Very professional and compassionate. Di McGreal is a counsellor there as well and she really helped both me and my husband through some very dark times.

They ran all the tests they could and I was on heparin injections and aspirin throughout the pregnancy. I had a medium positive reading for ANAs (anti-nuclear antibodies). Even though in the end the most likely reason I had so many miscarriages was a septum uterus (the doctors discovered it when Grace was born via c-section - she was breech, previously they thought my uterus was only bicornuate) the support I received from the clinic was invaulable.

Although 7 miscarriages were hell to go through and they have changed me forever it was worth it to have my little girl now.

Good luck and huge hugs. I hope they can give you some answers and that you get your baby!

Nicki :hugs::hugs:

[CrazyJ]

Hi shikha77 -

I am so very sorry to hear about your losses as well. I agree with Nicki (who I have had the distinct pleasure of getting to know in real life!! And her daughter is just beautiful!) about the recurrent miscarriage clinic at Royal Women's.

I had 5 losses and then went to see them. Like Nicki, I saw Prof Brenneke. Through tests it was discovered that I had both lupus anticoagulant and Prothrombin Gene Mutation - 2 blood clotting disorders. I started low dose aspirin while ttc, and after BFP, I continued the aspirin but also started clexane injections (a type of heparin). I was able to get free weekly scans at the clinic for peace of mind, and one extra time when I was just panicky. Everyone there is so supportive and wonderful.

I am now 28 weeks pregnant and all is well so far. If it weren't for the recurrent m/c clinic, I know I would not be looking forward to finally bringing a baby home.

I wish you all the luck in the world. It's such a devastating thing to experience and like Nicki, it has changed me forever.

Please keep us posted if you can and take care.

:hugs: