Sunrise Mothers group, the other side of it!

[our little treasures]

Hi all

I for one did think that the show only showed the positives of Bottle feeding, I was shocked at how there was nothing mentioned about the bond you get from bf..

I also noticed the mum who had bf quickly ran through her success at bf and it was really all about how FF's shouldn't feel guilty etc..

I am disgusted that the show only really represented one side of feeding your baby.. No information was given about bf and where you can get help if you are experiencing all the negatives that they went on about!!

I tried to find a link but failed:banghead: So if you can get one let us know

I want to know what you all thought about it.

I am sick and tired of people assuming that I BF so it was easy for me and I have never had the pain the emotional rollercoaster, the baby that won't get off the boob spending every wakeing hour on the boob etc...:mad:

What do you guys think of it!!

[rachdent]

here here - I'm sorry I missed this as I generally love Sunrise and am hugely disappointed to read this!! Let's email our disgust!!! I too hate the wat if you bf it means it came easily....

[Mum&bubs]

I agree with you even though I missed the show. Breastfeeding didn't come easy for me :no: and still now I have troubles with it!
Would love to see what others think also.

[CrazyBeautiful]

2 out of the 3 women on the show BF. What's the problem???? I think you're being a bit sensetive to some of the comments. BF is hard, no lie in that. I fed my 2 for 6 months each after major breast surgery. It was no picnic I'll tell you.

[Billy]

Well I am now FF (not by choice) but would hate to think that they would have only mentioned positives of bottle feeding:shame: ... I didn't see it, but by not mentioning all the positives of breastfeeding aswell I think that will just persuade more people to FF without even trying to BF... How very sad. :(

They had a very real opportunity to mention all the benefits of BOTH sides plus where people could get help if they were having trouble breastfeeding... We all know its not the easiest thing in the world to do :thumbsdown:

[our little treasures]

I have contacted Sunrise and I am talking about the fatc that it didn't cover breast feeding nor did it give any information if you are having troubles..

[littleboyblue]

I was listening to bits of it while walking around the house ans I thought the question for the day was on bottle feeding that's why they didn't mention breatfeeding much.

[xkwzit]

The first thing I will say is that I didn't see it. But - being the Sunrise Mother's Group, I guess the point is to have a bunch of MOTHER's talking about their experiences, not experts providing technical assistance. I don't think the point was to provide any real information about BFing, it was about how MOTHER's deal with the issues they have had feeding babies - not nec about how to solve these issues.

Otherwise it would be all about the experts and not about the mothers IYKWIM.

Cheers

Edited to add: I have deleted one off topic post and this thread looks confrontational already, so try to remember to stick to the OP and not bagging each other's opinions. Otherwise it will be closed.

[DQ]

I watched it and thought they represented both ways of feeding equally. They basically said that if you can BF then great, but if you can't it's not the end of the world.

In fact, in the closing comments on the topic, Mel actually said with BF you didn't need to take a suitcase full of bottle feeding supplies. You didn't need to warm up milk etc etc, because BF you had everything you need already with you.

The last woman that spoke said how tough she had it whilst trying to BF, however she made the comment about herself that she may have given up too early, but she did what she did that was right for her at the time.

Don't turn the segment into something that it wasn't.

If you want to BF and can, then do it. Good on you, the benefits are highly advertised. If you can't BF or don't want to, then so be it. No need to make those feel like crapola.:no:

[Goosie22]

I dont watch the show, too plastic for me.

[SamanthaJane]

I didn't watch the show, but from what i have read it seems as though the program was focusing a little more on bottle feeding, because they were talking about the issues of mums having problems with breast feeding and also feeling guilty about switching over due to problems with breast feeding.

If they were talking about feeding your baby (as a whole), then yes the positives and negatives of all sides should have been discussed. But if they were focusing on a particular issue (e.g. feeling guilty about bottle feeding) then i don't think it was really necessary to disucss all the pros of breast feeding. I think it was just different people talking about their different experiences.

But like i said, i didn't watch it, but thats just the message i got from the posts i have read about it.

If it was a documentary on some other program about feeding your baby, then yeah i'd expect them to talk about all the pros and cons of all of it. But not on Sunrise, it's just a laid back discussion about different issues.

IMO there is so much support out there for Breastfeeding mothers already, there's so many groups and different organisations that can help you. However, there is very little support for Bottlefeeding mothers, so to have Sunrise just discuss the issue was a great idea. But that's just my opinion.

[meme]

i didn't watch the segment..i still have an opinion though:rolleyes: :D


I guess the point is to have a bunch of MOTHER's talking about their experiences, not experts providing technical assistance.
i think that if mums are going to discuss the problems they had with breastfeeding though , that there needs to be a mention of where to get help, not so it will become about the experts, but for mothers watching the program who may have simiilar issues and not realise that there is help and that with help many women who want to breastfeed do.
support groups are often mentioned linked into segments like this. breastfeeding is an important issue and something that nearly all mothers want to do, yet statistics show that breastfeeding rates fall significantly in the 3-6mths after birth. as a community we need better breastfeeding support and information getting out to the public.

television is such a huge medium to be able to put positive messages out there. supporting all mums equally is a really positive thing, and illustrating that breastfeeding is a learned skill and can be problematic, but that many problems can be overcome would be a great message to put out there as well.

I watched it and thought they represented both ways of feeding equally.
breastfeeding and formula feeding aren't equal and imo it's important that mothers know this. how to get this information into society without it being seen as a personal judgement is the issue.

she did what was right for her at the time. i think that this is a great comment :thumbsup: perhaps if she knows where to get good help and support she will have a better chance of fulfilling her desires to breastfeed her next baby.

[Wish_Bear]

breastfeeding and formula feeding aren't equal and imo it's important that mothers know this. how to get this information into society without it being seen as a personal judgement is the issue.


Can you please re phrase meme! BF and FF aren't equal?!! Aren't we all doing all we humanly can to feed our babies? Aren't we all struggling with the decisions we make about feeding our babies? I have BF and FF and I have to say IMO there are a lot of BF women who do act and feel superior to those of us that FF.

I know BF is not easy and I would never claim it was but to say that BFing is not equal to FFing is just not on. By making that comment you are casting a personal judgement.

[Jo_Jo]

I dont watch the show, too plastic for me.Ahhhhh goosie22 you said it again, just what i was thinking too!!...........:thumbsup: jo

[DQ]

In saying that they represented BF and FF equally was meant in the context of, they spent the same amount of time discussing both ways of feeding.

And about the comment that BF and FF aren't equal as in one is better than the other, here we go again opening that same old can of worms. I am sick of it.:thumbsdown:

[Seekrit]

In saying that they represented BF and FF equally was meant in the context of, they spent the same amount of time discussing both ways of feeding.

are we watching the same show here, or what?

Or if you meant that they spent the same amount speaking about how hard breastfeeding is and how easy bottle feeding is, you'd be right.

I understand that it was just mothers chatting, but on an influential TV show such as that, I think that there does need to be rehearsed, expert input. Especially when one claimed that it took her friend a 6 day hospital stay to "wake up to herself" (paraphrasing here guys!!) and stop breastfeeding. Why not talk about lactation consultants and the ABA? :/

[WeloveHarriet]

I watched it and am amazed that people missed the main point that the women made.....they all said that they know how important it is to breastfeed - that it is the best thing for babies BUT if for some reason you are unable to do it then you shouldn't be made feel bad about that decision. That childbirth and childraising is hard enough without people making judgement calls about you. As an earlier poster said they are not experts they are a mothers' group. They never profess to knowing all the answers - only their own experiences.

[~mia&ryan~]

Especially when one claimed that it took her friend a 6 day hospital stay to "wake up to herself" (paraphrasing here guys!!) and stop breastfeeding. Why not talk about lactation consultants and the ABA? :/

I actually just watched it again (taped the end of sunrise so I didn't forget to tape raggs for dd :rolleyes: ) and the person who had a 6 day hospital stay was actually very sick in hospital for 6 days due to infection/mastitis and other complications. It wasn't just 6 days after the birth.:no: I think the idea of the segment was to say all mothers should support each other and not be so critical of one another (yes they actually say this:yes: ). Not an in depth discussion of pro's and con's. I think it's a valid point.

They also do say that if you have any comments, things you want them to discuss to email them.

[~mia&ryan~]

I watched it and am amazed that people missed the main point that the women made.....they all said that they know how important it is to breastfeed - that it is the best thing for babies BUT if for some reason you are unable to do it then you shouldn't be made feel bad about that decision. That childbirth and childraising is hard enough without people making judgement calls about you. As an earlier poster said they are not experts they are a mothers' group. They never profess to knowing all the answers - only their own experiences.

:yes: :yes: Couldn't have said it better myself!

[Oscar's mum]

However, there is very little support for Bottlefeeding mothers [/COLOR]

The ABA also supports bottlefeeding mothers;)

[shed]

I don't think anyone said that the mothers aren't equal.

[Ana Gram]

Now FF girls, you all know we aren't supposed to come into this section :shame:

I think the point of the "equal" thing is that breastmilk is not equal to formula in it's makeup. that's all she was trying to say, no one is better than anyone else just the milk.

[Chickadee]

I'm saddened that instead of supporting each other, this has degenerated into a ff versus bf argument. Thanks to everyone for contributing, warnings and/or infractions may follow later. This thread is closed.