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beesnees
12-10-2006, 19:45
It is with a heavy heart that I am considering finding a new home for my kelpie collie Max who is 12 months old. I am finding that I don't have enough time to spend with him (my bubba is 3 months old) and he is not getting enough attention. Whenever someone comes up the driveway or walks past he appears very aggressive, I think he is just looking after his territory because he is very placid with the people he knows. I am also starting a business from home where people would have to come onto the property which means Max would have to be locked up all the time. I sometimes think he would be better off on a farm or with someone who would take him to work everyday. It makes me sad to think about giving him away but I do want what is best for him. :crying: Has anyone else had to make this decision?
AquaDevil78
12-10-2006, 19:50
My mum is actually taking my second addition to the family ( a second cat, also 12mths old) as he is just to aggressive and naughty, no matter what i try he wont leave my baby (cat #1 7 years old alone) as much as i love him, he does have his good moments, i have gotten to the point where i have a baby on the way and i he is just too much of a handleful both for myself and my other cat, so mum has kindly offered to take him.. so i can still see him.
I will be sad to see him go but i have to do whats right for my existing cat and for the future of when i have a newborn in march.
I know how you feel though it is a hard choice, but as long as he goes to a nice home then all will be fine :thumbsup: :hugs:
ThreePinkFaireez
12-10-2006, 21:06
Hi!
I to had to give away my Kelpie pup...she was just too much to handle and became hard to handle and slightly aggressive...but more so bored and destructive as I had my 2nd baby and had even less time to spend with her..... I found her a nice home on acreage where she is now a fully trained cattle herder (spelling?) (or sheep? can't remember! sorry!) but last time I seen the guy who took her he said she was very healthy and very happy and loves being there.... so I didn't feel so bad.....so if you advertise certain criteria as to where you want ur pup to go (that's what I did) someone will come along :) It might be the best thing for the dog... Hope you come to a decision soon!
Lizzie0808
13-10-2006, 08:20
It's a sad decision to have to make but good on you for putting the welfare of the dog first. It might be worth getting in touch with a rescue group if you can who can help you try and rehome your boy.
we have two miniture poodles whom are extremely spoilt. before i gave birth they slept in our bed every night and recieved our undivided attention. when bub was born it took us all a while to to get used to the new addition to our family includung the dogs. we have made a huge effort to make sure that the dogs get the attention that they need. my dh walks them every morning and instead of sleeping in our bed we have put a gate up into our walk in robe and they sleep in there. that way they are still in the room but out of the way. it is a very hard decision for you to make but i do believe if you manage your time you will be able to give your dog the attention that it needs.
good luck
mumslilspunks
13-10-2006, 13:49
Big :hugs: for you.
I too know what its like to give up a pet. We had 2 large dogs but when ds1 came along, for some reason they started to get aggresive with each other. So for the saftey of our son and dogs we had to put one of them down. (He couldnt be rehomed).:crying:
Smurfette
13-10-2006, 14:01
I know exactly how you feel. Around the time we conceived our baby ( unexpectedly) we also bought a rottwieller (sp?) puppy as we weren't expecting to have a baby for a few years.
Liv was around 6 months when we decided to give our beautiful puppy away. My husband had just got a new job which meant he didn't have time to walk her and me with a baby, well it was just impossible. Also I knew I could never relax with Keesha ( our puppy) around Liv as dogs are just so unpredictable, even though Keesha was the most gentle, well natured dog you could come across.
She went to a great home with owners who just adore rottys and Keesha is now probably more spoilt with them then she was with us, if thats possible.
As much as we miss her terribly, we know we did the right thing, both for our peice of mind and for Keesha who now gets the attention she deserves.
Good luck with your decision, its not an easy one. I hope I have helped in some way :hugs: .
Mamaduke
13-10-2006, 15:21
We too had to find a new home for our beautiful German Shepherd "Santino". He never showed any signs of aggression and was actually fantastic with the boys but our lifestyle changed so dramatically with 2 children that we found the period between walks for poor San were getting longer and longer.
Because we bought him from a reputable breeder, who was recognised with the German Shepherd Dog Club of Victoria I gave her a call (after months of agonising over it) and she then got in touch with the club.
One afternoon I received a phone call from a middle aged retired man in Queensland (we're in Victoria) who, along with his wife, were hoping to adopt San. They made the trip from Queensland to Melbourne to meet him and after a few visits at our house started taking San out on trips. They live on acreage in Queensland and they also own a home in Brighton, where they spend the Summers. After a few months of getting to know him it was getting to the stage where San would cry when they left. It was a perfect match! Two wonderful, caring owners with all the time in the world to lavish the affection and love San deserved.
They keep in touch and the last I heard San was the star of the obedience club, a huge hit around the cafes, they've installed an air conditioner in the bedroom because San doesn't like the heat too much, they drive 80kms 3 times a week to take San to the beach and he's very happy.
I couldn't have asked for anything better for our beautiful boy!
lovingmotheract
13-10-2006, 22:01
there is a site that u can go and see it's http://www.doggymates.com/au/ it's the best site i have a little dog and he was my world but i had a baby so i have found someone 4 him to play with and he loves playing with all the dogs now and ppl so have a look it's better then giving him up. DON"T GIVE UP YOUR DOG!!!
Mum2Tyla
14-10-2006, 09:55
Hi,
I cannot understand why anyone buys a kelpie, cattledog etc and then compalins about them being destructive, overactive and aggressive they are a wprking dog ,that is what they are bredd for not to be stuck in a backyard all day doing nothing, they need constant stimulation and exercise, that is why they are called working dogs they need to be on a farm. I think it should be against the law to sell these breeds in suburbia because as a vet nurse I have so many people wanting to rehome them as they are too boisterous and become bored and destructive. It is not the dogs fault it is our fault for trying to make them live in a suburban enviroment.
kelly:)
We decided to give away our 2yo beagle when I was 6 months pregnant. He didn't cope when we moved house and would bark all day even with a 'no-bark' collar (the only way to keep him quiet was to sedate him :( ). All the neighbours were complaining and council was threatening us with $600 fines. We rang the kennel where we put him when we went away and they put us in contact with a professional dog trainer.
He is now a working dog and sniffs out termites for a pest control company. We've seen him in their TV commercials and he looks really happy. It was a hard decision to make, but I know he is much happier and doing what he was ment to be doing - working. The only thing that annoyed us is that they changed his name from Kubrick to Sherlock. :banghead:
SailorMoon
16-10-2006, 13:10
I agree with kelly renton
have u considered all options before you decide to rehome your dog?
What about a dog walker? Pay a local 13 or 14 year old to walk your dog once a day.
Doggy Daycare?
Have you provided your dog with toys that keep him occupied, like a Kong?
If you take your dog to a shelter it will more than likely be put down, seeing as he is already showing signs of agression and destruction.
Im sorry, I am going against the grain here but when people buy animals .... doesnt anyone ever do any research?:confused:
Kelpies, border collies etc etc are all working dogs which need A LOT of your time. They are cute when they are little but they need constant exercise and activities.
I wish buyers would research the animal before giving in to the cute puppy in the window eyes!
These animals are pack animals and see you as their family.
Giving the dog away to a person who is experienced in working dogs is a fantastic idea ( if you can actually find someone ) but think about the stress it will go through when it is sep from you.
Sorry, I KNOW that you would not have wanted to do this when you bought it, and its JMO, so no abuse to me please :hugs: but it just frustrates me. This is why the pounds etc are full of animals.
If you are local to me Ill take him. Just PM me.:thumbsup:
GirlGerms
17-10-2006, 11:15
My family previously lived on acreage, where we had two cross-bred working dogs. They didn't do any work as such, but they ran around and played a lot all day. When my parents split up and the dogs came with my mum and I to suburbia, they went stir crazy. After a while, we put them in the Weekend Shopper as give-away to a good home.
They now live on a farm in Caboolture and are extremely well looked after. I couldn't have asked for a better outcome.
I now have two 'new' dogs - also both cross-bred working type dogs. Every day, I walk the dogs 20 minutes each way to the dog park where they chase balls and play with other dogs for at least half an hour. That's what you need to do when you have working dogs in suburbia, unless you want your garden destroyed (which ours still is partially).
We plan to keep the walks up if we have a child, but if things don't go as planned, then I'll have no reservations about giving them away.
I wouldn't send your dog to a shelter - put him/her in the paper and see if anyone contacts you. I'd be surprised if they didn't. Either way, don't be selfish. Of course you love your dog, but are you providing the life your dog deserves?
Either way, all the best!
GG
Mum2Tyla
17-10-2006, 12:17
Hi,
it amazes me how easily people will part with their pets I have an alaskan malamute which is high maintenance, i have a snake, a turlte and a cat plus a nine month old daughter and i work full time, it would tear my heart out to have to get rid of any of them, it means I have to plan and my partner walks her at night when our daughter is asleep but I also want to teach my child to be a responsble pet owner, it is extremely stressful for a pet to be rehomed even if it is the best thing for them, if you plan on having children think about this before you get a pet, I always knew I would have children so took that into consideration when getting pets. Pets are a privelege not a god given right and the sooner people realise this the less unwanted animals will be getting put to sleep everyday. Most animals that go to shelters are put to sleep especially if they are not puppies. i could go on all day but I think I have made my point
kelly:)
Mamaduke
17-10-2006, 12:37
It was not easy at all for us to find San another home but the truth of the matter was he was not getting the attention he deserved and I wasn't going to give away my children!
We had another man come to see San who lived in a lovely home and had a job as a pilot. He was very interested in taking San but we decided against it because of the fact that his work took him away from home for extended periods of time, so for people to remark how easily I could give away my dog and insinuate that I must be an uncaring person is unfair.
The fact that we made a real effort (along with the San's new owners) to let San adjust at his own pace, leaves my conscience clear and I have no second thoughts whatsoever with the decision we made.
reAllytee
17-10-2006, 12:44
Kelly i totally agree that many people think of pets as something that can be parted with easily & the likes but also understand that many of us agonise over doing so.
I know i did & it took me 6mths to actually do it. I rang breeders & the likes to find a home for her as i refused to hand my Lab over to a shelter. But i had to she was going back into being aggressive towards other dogs again & was also becoming aggressive towards me & DS. I was actually told by the breeder that she needed a new home as this wasnt good enough. I had done all the training back when she was attacked & worked long & hard with her to curb the aggression but with all the stress of moving & a new baby she lost it. It was better for her to find a new home than stay with the stress she was feeling here.
She has since gone to a fantastic couple & her aggression has all but gone even so they now have her in with their other dog with no problems & they are the best of friends. They take her camping & the guy even takes her to work every single day ( he is a carpenter ).
She is much better off so please understand that while giving away a dog or pet can be a "bad" thing it can also be a good thing when all the owners want is a better life for their animals.
Mum2Tyla
17-10-2006, 15:13
Hi,
I totally understand that sometimes people do try their best but due to things beyond there control they must rehome a dog due to aggression caused by an attack unfortunately in my profession I tend to see the worst side of things so many people want to rehome there pets without even trying to improve the behaviour which is often caused due to inadequate training as a puppy, which is often not the owners fault sometimes the nicest people are the worst pet owners. i just think that anyone that buys a dog should have to go to training classes and socialise them well and sterilise them and we would solve so many problems. I am sorry I sound so harsh sometimes but being a vet nurse you see so many animals that are mistreated and rehomed because people just can't be bothered or buy a breed that does not suit there lifestyle, sorry to those people that have tried everything and have no other option. But this is usually not the case
Kelly;)
Lizzie0808
17-10-2006, 15:14
Please just make sure if you are advertising your dog in the local paper as a give away or free to good home (actually, even if you are asking people to pay) that he or she is desexed so that he or she is of no use to puppy farmers.
SailorMoon
17-10-2006, 16:25
Hi,
it amazes me how easily people will part with their pets I have an alaskan malamute which is high maintenance, i have a snake, a turlte and a cat plus a nine month old daughter and i work full time, it would tear my heart out to have to get rid of any of them, it means I have to plan and my partner walks her at night when our daughter is asleep but I also want to teach my child to be a responsble pet owner, it is extremely stressful for a pet to be rehomed even if it is the best thing for them, if you plan on having children think about this before you get a pet, I always knew I would have children so took that into consideration when getting pets. Pets are a privelege not a god given right and the sooner people realise this the less unwanted animals will be getting put to sleep everyday. Most animals that go to shelters are put to sleep especially if they are not puppies. i could go on all day but I think I have made my point
kelly:)
Kelly Renton, I could not have said it better myself. :yelclap: :yelclap:
I will never give up my dogs when I have chidlren. In fact there is no reason for me to ever give up my dogs. I dont care if I am living in the gutter, I took on the dogs as a comitment, not something that you can just Get rid of when I have had enough!
I have a mastiff and a staffy, they will play a HUGE part in my childs life, and I look forward to sharing that Special time with them!
Michelle75
20-10-2006, 10:37
Hello there :wave:
I'm going to take this thread in another direction and would be really appreciative of some advice. I have an 8 month old baby girl called Poppy a two year old Bishon Frise cross Lhasa Apso called Ted (imagine a dog that looks like a muppet and that's him) and a seven year old Tonkinese cat called Truffle.
Well just this morning I was sitting on the lounge with Poppy on my lap and Ted was sitting next to us on the lounge and I was looking at something (can't remember what) and I heard Ted snap at Poppy. I quickly turned around and said "What did you just do Ted" and he looked at me with that "I've just done something wrong face" and just to make sure I held Poppy and leaned her (just a little...he couldn't reach her) towards him and his lip went up and he growled at her and she burst into tears!!! Now this has never happened before...well not to my knowledge anyway as he is always inside with Poppy and I (I am a SAHM).
It is very unlike Ted to do this...he may just be having a bad day (I hope so!!!). To say Ted is THE most spoilt dog in the world would be an understatement...he is a part of our family and sleeps on his little bed in our bedroom and we fly him interstate with us on our holidays when we visit family as I couldn't bear to put him in a kennel.
The question I have is am I doing the right thing by giving him so much attention...he gets more attention now than ever before as I am home and he is constantly with me...my DH tells me I have made him into an idiot by spoiling him so much but he does too so we are both probably to blame...we made sure Ted didn't feel left out when we bought Poppy home as he was our four legged baby (as was the cat) before she arrived.
Sorry to bang on but I am really upset and he is sitting outside peering through the glass doors at me with that guilty look on his face. I have absolutely no intention of giving Ted away so any advice re "pack animals" etc or how I can make sure this never happens again would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Michelle
reAllytee
20-10-2006, 11:27
Hi,
I totally understand that sometimes people do try their best but due to things beyond there control they must rehome a dog due to aggression caused by an attack unfortunately in my profession I tend to see the worst side of things so many people want to rehome there pets without even trying to improve the behaviour which is often caused due to inadequate training as a puppy, which is often not the owners fault sometimes the nicest people are the worst pet owners. i just think that anyone that buys a dog should have to go to training classes and socialise them well and sterilise them and we would solve so many problems. I am sorry I sound so harsh sometimes but being a vet nurse you see so many animals that are mistreated and rehomed because people just can't be bothered or buy a breed that does not suit there lifestyle, sorry to those people that have tried everything and have no other option. But this is usually not the case
Kelly;)
Again Kelly i know exactly what your talking about but to put everyone in that same basket i think is totally wrong because the fact of the matter is this lady never said she was going to send her dogs to a shelter she may in fact like myself & Mamaduke spend time & effort finding a suitable owner that can take her dog on !
Yes many people see animals as disposable & it makes me very angry i have been involved in the fostering system for dogs so ive seen some of the worst things.
But again to say that someone on here asking for help & advice is one of them i think is a hard call because i think if someone is agonising over it then it shows what sort of owner they truly are.
Kelly Renton, I could not have said it better myself. :yelclap: :yelclap:
I will never give up my dogs when I have chidlren. In fact there is no reason for me to ever give up my dogs. I dont care if I am living in the gutter, I took on the dogs as a comitment, not something that you can just Get rid of when I have had enough!
I have a mastiff and a staffy, they will play a HUGE part in my childs life, and I look forward to sharing that Special time with them!
SailorMoon - I can tell you i have said those exact words time & time again when it came to my Lab. When she was first attacked & became inter dog aggressive she was a lot of hard work but i buckled down because " I will never give up my dogs they are family " we went through intensive training it took many hard long months to be able to walk her without her freaking out but we got there & i was ecstatic ! We then moved next door to two feral dogs who of a day would try to get into our backyard by actually ramming the colorbond fencing i only found this out when i lost my job & was at home. I had wondered where i was going wrong. So again she lost her confidence & again she reverted. Again with hard work we calmed her somewhat but being a dominant dog & seeing me as a push over she started to ignore me & would often try to push me over. I was pg by this stage but again with the above statement in my head i refused to give up. My dog trainer was actually quite astounded because as he said sometimes we have to face the facts that we cant always help or save our animals.
We ended up buying this house, now we thought that all would be fine i would have the baby soon & things would settle down. Again my dog was very pushy towards me while pg. I ignored this because i knew we could get her back "normal" then bubs was born. Not only did she become more dominant she would try & bite me when i turned my back.
I spoke with my dog trainer & breeders again for help/advice they all advised that she had to go because if she was like this towards me she was going to be like that towards DS. So with a heavy heart i started looking for a new home for her but as they advised this might not even happen & i would have to put her down. I was devastated but i knew whatever happened it would be better for her. It took 3mths to find the couple she finally went to & im glad we did find them as i said before she is much happier now & content.
So im sorry but i have to say there has to be a line where your family comes first & if that seems like it wouldnt happen for you then i really hope you never come across any of the problems ive had because i know i never thought this could happen to me.
reAllytee
20-10-2006, 11:32
Hello there :wave:
I'm going to take this thread in another direction and would be really appreciative of some advice. I have an 8 month old baby girl called Poppy a two year old Bishon Frise cross Lhasa Apso called Ted (imagine a dog that looks like a muppet and that's him) and a seven year old Tonkinese cat called Truffle.
Well just this morning I was sitting on the lounge with Poppy on my lap and Ted was sitting next to us on the lounge and I was looking at something (can't remember what) and I heard Ted snap at Poppy. I quickly turned around and said "What did you just do Ted" and he looked at me with that "I've just done something wrong face" and just to make sure I held Poppy and leaned her (just a little...he couldn't reach her) towards him and his lip went up and he growled at her and she burst into tears!!! Now this has never happened before...well not to my knowledge anyway as he is always inside with Poppy and I (I am a SAHM).
It is very unlike Ted to do this...he may just be having a bad day (I hope so!!!). To say Ted is THE most spoilt dog in the world would be an understatement...he is a part of our family and sleeps on his little bed in our bedroom and we fly him interstate with us on our holidays when we visit family as I couldn't bear to put him in a kennel.
The question I have is am I doing the right thing by giving him so much attention...he gets more attention now than ever before as I am home and he is constantly with me...my DH tells me I have made him into an idiot by spoiling him so much but he does too so we are both probably to blame...we made sure Ted didn't feel left out when we bought Poppy home as he was our four legged baby (as was the cat) before she arrived.
Sorry to bang on but I am really upset and he is sitting outside peering through the glass doors at me with that guilty look on his face. I have absolutely no intention of giving Ted away so any advice re "pack animals" etc or how I can make sure this never happens again would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Michelle
Hi Michelle !
I would say you need to reassert the "pack" in your family.
I would suggest looking up "The Dog Whisperer" Mr John Richardson, i have dealt with him many times with my Lab & he is fantastic. Even if you just look up his website you will find some training ideas on there but if you can get your hands on his book titled as above. He is fantastic & only uses gentle methods unlike many companies out there as well as often solving the problem in 2 sessions in your home if you choose to have him or one of his trainers come out to you.
Basically you need to start making Ted realise that he is below your little girl because at this stage it seems like he is fighting for dominance over her.
If you can PM one of our users shed she is a dog trainer & would give you some great advice !
Good luck
Ally
xxx
Michelle75
20-10-2006, 12:02
Hello Ally,
Thank you so much for your great advice and responding so quickly. You are right when you say I need to reassert the "Pack" of the family but I am just not sure how to do this so I will certainly look up the Dog Whisperer website you mentioned and try and get my hands on his book. I have never had to deal with this kind of behaviour from Ted before so it is all new and we don't believe in smacking or yelling at our animals so the Dog Whisperer or one of his trainers sounds like a perfect solution.
I'm sorry but I didnt understand your last line when you refer to "one of our users shed" ...I'm not really sure what you mean as I am fairly new to Bub Hub and still trying to work my way around. Did you mean there is a lady that is a dog trainer and I can private message her and if so would you mind letting me know her name or private mail address.
Thank you again so much Ally...I really appreciate it.
I hope you have a lovely day!
Michelle and Poppy (and Ted)
reAllytee
20-10-2006, 12:17
If you send a private message to shed she is ony bubhub & is a dog trainer who does puppy pre-schools so can offer great informative advice.
If you go into private messages on the top right hand side of the screen then type in "shed" for who you want to recieve the message then write out your message & send !
A few ground rules need to be set to assert dominance that means training so that Ted understands when you give a command he follows it. I would also suggest to stop having him up on the lounge especially when Poppy is around this means her being up higher is showing her dominance. All the humans get fed before him is also a good thing even if its just you having a biscuit before giving him his food but try to do it where you all sit down & eat then once your all finished he gets his meal. But usually the main thing is training once they start learning all the new commands etc they settle down because they can see where their role in the family is !
Good luck :)
Ally
xxx
Michelle75
20-10-2006, 15:37
Hello Ally,
Oh my god...You are fabulous!! I looked up the Dog Whisperer website and it lead me to another one called DogTech and I spoke to a guy called Justin and he is one of the Dog Whisperer trainers and he said (like you) to firstly get him off the lounge and a few other things which I am going to implement straight away so Ted knows where he fits in to the family. He is such a gorgeous lilltle boy but he's just gotten a bit too big for his boots. Thank you for explaining about Shed...I will pm her this afternoon.
I hope you have a lovely weekend.
Michelle and Poppy
reAllytee
20-10-2006, 16:24
Whoops i forgot about writing DogTech !! D'Oh !
Hehehehe glad you got some great advice :thumbsup:
Harlequin
20-10-2006, 19:38
beesnees, check out Dogz Online. (http://forums.dogzonline.com.au/index.php)
The posters on there will help you find your doggie a new home, plus the forum is full of rescue groups, one of those may be able to take him or help you.
Some shelters are 'no kill' shelters, if you go with a shelter make sure he wont be put down because he's been surrendered. Same goes for pounds, most of those are under no obligation to keep a surrendered dog for any amount of time and those dogs will be pts as soon as the pound wants.
I wouldnt suggest putting an ad in the paper, you have no idea who is taking the dog, unless you plan on investigating / questioning the interested parties. He could end up with horrid owners.
If you are happy to give him away, then a rescue group would be the best bet.
GirlGerms
24-10-2006, 16:47
it amazes me how easily people will part with their pets I have an alaskan malamute which is high maintenance, i have a snake, a turlte and a cat plus a nine month old daughter and i work full time, it would tear my heart out to have to get rid of any of them, it means I have to plan and my partner walks her at night when our daughter is asleep but I also want to teach my child to be a responsble pet owner, it is extremely stressful for a pet to be rehomed even if it is the best thing for them, if you plan on having children think about this before you get a pet, I always knew I would have children so took that into consideration when getting pets. Pets are a privelege not a god given right and the sooner people realise this the less unwanted animals will be getting put to sleep everyday. Most animals that go to shelters are put to sleep especially if they are not puppies. i could go on all day but I think I have made my point
kelly:)
I know exactly what you're saying, but in my situation, my partner and I could only afford a unit and my mum had a tiny back yard in which to keep two big dogs (who were used to 5 acres to run around on).
In a lot of cases, it's just plain selfish not to give dogs away.
I know exactly what you mean about thinking before you buy a dog, about whether you have plans for kids etc. That said, what if you end up with a child with special needs, or even twins? You may very well not have the time required to spend with a dog. Currently I spend a lot of time with my dogs. They're outside dogs, but we allow them to lie in front of the TV in the evenings and we also walk them for 1.5 hours every day. Like I said, I plan to keep it up if we have a child, but you can't always plan everything to a tee.
Anyway, I'm happy with my decision to give my old dogs away - they're on a farm and happy as can be. It was a selfless decision to make.
GG
I just have to say that I could never, EVER give away my two dogs... I would even get rid of my DF before my dogs !!! They have been a part of my life for nearly ten years and it would kill me to live without them.
I have a baby due in February and both parties will just have to learn to live with each other regardless (I don't think there will be any trouble anyway). If a problem arose, then I would take the time and effort to deal with it, and not just cast aside the animal.. which is what seems to happen.
I just wish that people would do more research into the animals that they are buying. For example, if people buy working type dogs and try to assimilate them into a suburban backyard without adequate stimulation and exercise, then trouble will always ensue. This problem is the owners fault... not the dogs... and yet it is the dog who is the one to suffer as a result.
It makes me so angry. Pets are for life... if you make the committment to buy them... you have to make the effort to deal with them, even when they become troublesome.
Would you rehome your kids if they became too much trouble???? Something to think about.
reAllytee
24-10-2006, 18:18
I just have to say that I could never, EVER give away my two dogs... I would even get rid of my DF before my dogs !!! They have been a part of my life for nearly ten years and it would kill me to live without them.
I have a baby due in February and both parties will just have to learn to live with each other regardless (I don't think there will be any trouble anyway). If a problem arose, then I would take the time and effort to deal with it, and not just cast aside the animal.. which is what seems to happen.
I just wish that people would do more research into the animals that they are buying. For example, if people buy working type dogs and try to assimilate them into a suburban backyard without adequate stimulation and exercise, then trouble will always ensue. This problem is the owners fault... not the dogs... and yet it is the dog who is the one to suffer as a result.
It makes me so angry. Pets are for life... if you make the committment to buy them... you have to make the effort to deal with them, even when they become troublesome.
Would you rehome your kids if they became too much trouble???? Something to think about.
Again have you even read what half of us have wrote on this thread :confused:
Honestly i spoke exactly like you before my DS was born but when the time came & there was going to be a chance he would get bitten ummm sorry but my DS comes first & sorry but i cant even comprehend why you cant understand this !
I had breeders & my dog trainer advise to rehome her so errr yeah sometimes it is the best thing for them especially when in my case the choice would have been had she bit myself or DS she wouldve been put to sleep. So sorry whats the better solution again :confused: :rolleyes:
I will concede that if the children are at risk of harm from a pet, then rehoming the pet is probably the only option.
I will also say that even though I disagree with giving up a pet in general, it is good to see that some posters here have a made a very big effort to find new homes for their dogs... unfortunately not a lot of people do.
I guess what just gets me angry is people who get rid of a dog purely because it no longer suits their lifestyle... well maybe more research should have been done prior to getting the animal.
Anyways, I'm too old and ugly to start arguing about this stuff on a message board. I've had my say... and people are entitled to respond... but it's probably best if I just keep my mouth shut now because I don't want Bubhub becoming a nasty place.
To the original poster, I sincerely hope that you can find a good home for your dog.
reAllytee
25-10-2006, 00:34
No one has a problem with you voicing your opinion its just a case of when you lump everyone in the same "neglectful" owners category its a bit harsh thats all i was trying to say.
There is no need to fear " bubhub becoming a nasty place ".
I just wish that people would do more research into the animals that they are buying. For example, if people buy working type dogs and try to assimilate them into a suburban backyard without adequate stimulation and exercise, then trouble will always ensue. This problem is the owners fault... not the dogs... and yet it is the dog who is the one to suffer as a result.
It makes me so angry. Pets are for life... if you make the committment to buy them... you have to make the effort to deal with them, even when they become troublesome.
Actually I completely agree with you for the most. Yesterday changed my opinion a bit though.
We have a 3.5yr old deaf cattle dog X (yes a working dog in a suburban back yard albeit a quarter acre) but we only got him because he was going to be put down because he was deaf. I was actually looking for a smaller more appropriate dog when I found him.
Yesterday he attacked our postman unprovoked. Completely out of his nature though he has tried to nip or herd people before. The first time he tried to bite someone I was pregnant with DS and it was in the days when he was getting walked daily, taken to the beach and trained professionally weekly. Anyway, he actually pushed past DH at the door which he as never done before just so he could bite him. So what do I do? Knowing full well hes nipped before (once our son on the head but food was involved so we took steps to correct that) and now actually bitten a hole in someones leg do we still take the risk with our own young family or have we had enough warning signs?
This dog has been trained through puppy and dog training classes and though doesn't get the exercise and training now that he should - it still should never have happened. He is our family dog, he spends his days with the family, he is not neglected in the least but I do acknowledge he is not treated as a working dog should be however our current lifestyle does not allow for hours of walks dailiy or regular beach trips that he once had and I have serious fears about him being unpredictable when in an environment with other dogs or strangers....... and now my own young children.
I dont believe in getting rid of a dog just because a baby is on its way but if the dog poses a risk to the family be it their own nature or the owners negligence in getting a dog not suited for their lifestyle then I agree with you but lifestyles do change out of necessity - ours certainly has.
P.S. If we do decide to send him to a better home, it will probably be my fathers small farm in NZ - my father loves the dog so at least my heart will be easy that hes probably actually gone to a better life than we can offer him at this point. We are not considering getting him put down or sent to the RSPCA.
Mum2Tyla
25-10-2006, 08:54
Hi,
I have been preetty clear in my feelings on this topic but as I have said soemtimes you do not have a choice, some dogs no matter how good the training are not suited to be in certain environments and if the postie makes a complaint you may not have choices in what happens to him, in this in stance I can understand why you would be looking at a new home, I don't think a childs safety should ever be put at risk for a dog. Hopefully your postie does not make a complaint as your dog will be euthanased if he does. Good luck with it all.
Kelly:ecomcity:
Gruffalo
25-10-2006, 11:24
I agree both sides of the debate.
But its not that hard to find half an hour everyday to put bubs in the pram and take Max for a walk.
Hi,
I have been preetty clear in my feelings on this topic but as I have said soemtimes you do not have a choice, some dogs no matter how good the training are not suited to be in certain environments and if the postie makes a complaint you may not have choices in what happens to him, in this in stance I can understand why you would be looking at a new home, I don't think a childs safety should ever be put at risk for a dog. Hopefully your postie does not make a complaint as your dog will be euthanased if he does. Good luck with it all.
Kelly:ecomcity:
Thanks. Unfortunately a complaint has to be made for the posties workcover as he requires a tetnis (sp?) shot. We called the council dog control to see what would happen and they said it will be investigated and he will likely either be classed as a nuscience dog on a 6 month good behaviour bond or a dangerous dog but if the second is the case then he wont be allowed to live in a house with children under the age of 18 years. We will just have to see what happens and take it as it comes.
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