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Humphreyisapuppet
19-02-2012, 08:47
Is there such a thing as too much poo-ing going on?
My 12mth old does 3-4 poos a day: wether tiny, huge, sloppy, pellet it seems to be ALWAYS there almost at EVERY change! am i feeding her too much? She feeds her self with her hands and only eats as much as SHE wants. She's not a big baby rather petite and laways has been. I just dont understand why so much poo comes out of this little girl!
I still offer 3 cups of milk a day and she sinks the 1st but the other two vary with how much she has, sometimes none. Esp the middle cup.
Id like to grop this iddle milk but what tpye of snack do i replace it with?
The other thing is, because of all this poo, her nappy rash never gets a chance to heal. i have been to GP and got an antiseptic cream. She is in MCN's and we change to dispaoable when it's really bad. She scratchs at her bum at every change - it's annoying her like crazy i just dont know what to do now :(
One other thing - My DD eats her poo.......is this dangerous?
Any help please i am sik of poo and itchy bums and my DD constantly smelling like a poo machine.
Humphreyisapuppet
19-02-2012, 10:22
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I would suggest trying her on different milk. My dd is breast fed, but whenever we have attempted formula or cows milk, she has ended up with severe nappy rash, and loads of poo. Once a week she is at day care, I send along goats milk and that seems to be fine
And yes, eating poo is undesirable, how you stop it? I dont know!
Hth
**Mum, Dad, Big boy (Dec 08) and Baby girl (Feb 11)**
You could try goats milk, soy, or even a2 cows milk can be easier to digest. Soy/goat/ha formula is another option
**Mum, Dad, Big boy (Dec 08) and Baby girl (Feb 11)**
Oh, and dd defiantly scratches down there when shes got a nasty poo rash
**Mum, Dad, Big boy (Dec 08) and Baby girl (Feb 11)**
Humphreyisapuppet
19-02-2012, 11:06
You could try goats milk, soy, or even a2 cows milk can be easier to digest. Soy/goat/ha formula is another option
**Mum, Dad, Big boy (Dec 08) and Baby girl (Feb 11)**
....do you think cow's milk is doing it? she has been having cow's milk for about 2mths. The poos have been happening this last week.......
My LO poos all the time too, but to be honest, and I know it's TMI - but her Mummy is just as regular - we poo as many times as we eat (when I was in naturopathy class [Australian College of Natural Medicine], we were taught that this is actually great and a sign of good digestive health). She is 8 months and she isn't a very big eater and is quite small (25th percentile at birth and could draw a straight line along her growth charts)
I always make sure I go & change her the minute I see the 'poo face' so go through a lot of disposables (sorry environment), but haven't had any problems with rash (apart from an issue with a particular brand of wipees), so I'm not much help there. I did suggest pawpaw ointment for a friends bub's poor bum bum and that cleared up overnight however.
The poo eating thing is a doosy, I'm crossing my fingers mine doesn't figure out how to do that when she's a bit older
Could you occupy her with a toy at change time to stop her from scratching her bum? Or am I just showing my complete naivity here at being 4 months behind you? LOL sorry if that's the case - it's just that I have to let mine play with 'nappy dog' every change now as she always wants to flip over and take off from the table if I don't distract her.
Anyway - good luck!!!!:fingerscrossed:
Is she having more now than months ago? Sometimes it can take a while to react to things. I'm of the mindset 'anything is worth a try' when it comes to problems with my kids... Sometimes you find a solution, most times you don't lol
We get the same thing when teething? Could be that?
While the op suggests its good to poo frequently, I would imagine the fact its causing a rash and it's bothering her that there may be an underlying issue. Changing frequently will help as the poo reacts with urine to cause rashes too
I'm just wondering what is happening when she is eating it? Is it just happening when you change her? If so distracting will help. If it's sleep time a grow bag may help
**Mum, Dad, Big boy (Dec 08) and Baby girl (Feb 11)**
Humphreyisapuppet
19-02-2012, 12:47
My LO poos all the time too, but to be honest, and I know it's TMI - but her Mummy is just as regular - we poo as many times as we eat (when I was in naturopathy class [Australian College of Natural Medicine], we were taught that this is actually great and a sign of good digestive health). She is 8 months and she isn't a very big eater and is quite small (25th percentile at birth and could draw a straight line along her growth charts)
I always make sure I go & change her the minute I see the 'poo face' so go through a lot of disposables (sorry environment), but haven't had any problems with rash (apart from an issue with a particular brand of wipees), so I'm not much help there. I did suggest pawpaw ointment for a friends bub's poor bum bum and that cleared up overnight however.
The poo eating thing is a doosy, I'm crossing my fingers mine doesn't figure out how to do that when she's a bit older
Could you occupy her with a toy at change time to stop her from scratching her bum? Or am I just showing my complete naivity here at being 4 months behind you? LOL sorry if that's the case - it's just that I have to let mine play with 'nappy dog' every change now as she always wants to flip over and take off from the table if I don't distract her.
Anyway - good luck!!!!:fingerscrossed:
......yep, percentile was the 20 somethings with my DD at birth too! and yes, she also does a straight line lol
TMI - yes i am regular to the point i can time it lol but im once a day.
DD does poo pretty much after every meal...and then again
I'm relieved it could be a sign of good digestion , thankyou fo mentioning this.
You are not being naive - DD has change table toys and a mobile. If DH is home i call him to hold her hands lol ive even tried putting sox on her hands hahaha the second time i did that she scratched with the sox on - pooey sox! not as bad, but then she worked out to take them off! ggrrrr!
I have a pump bottle of detol antiseptic i rup on her hands. What worries me is when she does it in her cot lol. i dont catch her doing it. poo prints all over her sheets! Going thru THAT many cot sheets :freakingout:
Thanks for you advice:)
Humphreyisapuppet
19-02-2012, 12:53
Is she having more now than months ago? Sometimes it can take a while to react to things. I'm of the mindset 'anything is worth a try' when it comes to problems with my kids... Sometimes you find a solution, most times you don't lol
We get the same thing when teething? Could be that?
While the op suggests its good to poo frequently, I would imagine the fact its causing a rash and it's bothering her that there may be an underlying issue. Changing frequently will help as the poo reacts with urine to cause rashes too
I'm just wondering what is happening when she is eating it? Is it just happening when you change her? If so distracting will help. If it's sleep time a grow bag may help
**Mum, Dad, Big boy (Dec 08) and Baby girl (Feb 11)**
Yes, she is doing more poo than a couple months ago. But she is also eating more than she did a couple mths ago.
Yes, i believe she could be teething - she only has 2 bottom teeth and her top gums are VERY firm. She has a runny nose too. Last time she was teething - she had a nappy rash. But this time im noticing more poo as well.
I dont know why she eat's it. hungry? lol she does it in her cot where i cant catch her to stop it and also at a nappy change, where i fight her to stop it. She is more distracted by the itching.
Grow bag during summer??? what about a short sleve onesie? ....stupid me i just thought to try a onesie.....loosing my mind.
Thanks for your reply :highfive:
stcatherineofsiena
19-02-2012, 13:00
Mother of 7, pregnant with number 8. Some children poop a lot, others once a day at the same time. There all different. I think the best thing to do is check their nappy regularly. If the nappy rash is bad, wash there bottoms after every change throughout the day, "very important"! Also apply nappy rash cream. I've found that Amolin takes the sting out of a rash, within 24 hours. Apply cream between nappy changes. You should see a big improvement!!! If not, see you GP again.Eating the poo, If the child isn't sick, that's great, but don't let it happen again.Hopes this helps
Humphreyisapuppet
19-02-2012, 14:04
Mother of 7, pregnant with number 8. Some children poop a lot, others once a day at the same time. There all different. I think the best thing to do is check their nappy regularly. If the nappy rash is bad, wash there bottoms after every change throughout the day, "very important"! Also apply nappy rash cream. I've found that Amolin takes the sting out of a rash, within 24 hours. Apply cream between nappy changes. You should see a big improvement!!! If not, see you GP again.Eating the poo, If the child isn't sick, that's great, but don't let it happen again.Hopes this helps
....Thankyou very much, you sound very experienced as a mummy of 7:) i try not to let the poo eating happen but sometimes i dont even see her doing it (in her cot at night) i will try a onesie outfit when i put her to bed.
Will deffs try the Amolin cream. Thankyou and good luck with bub's numer 8 wow! how wonderful!!!! :)
BaronessM
19-02-2012, 14:27
Hey there, I was going to suggest a onesie- restrict her access to nappy. Try a tight pilcher over nappy: bright bots make long ones that go halfway up the torso. This amount of poo is considered 'normal' tho could be formula related. As you suggest, she'll eat as much as she wants, not likely an overfeeding thing. The nappy rash thing could be related to teething or something caustic in her poos~ we've found the greatest solution for nappy rash is Sudocrem (basically a zinc cream) spread thickly to buttocks every change. We do this at first sign of any redness and so far, fingers crossed, no nappy rash.
Good luck with your nappy woes, hope it all works out soon!
Humphreyisapuppet
19-02-2012, 14:33
Hey there, I was going to suggest a onesie- restrict her access to nappy. Try a tight pilcher over nappy: bright bots make long ones that go halfway up the torso. This amount of poo is considered 'normal' tho could be formula related. As you suggest, she'll eat as much as she wants, not likely an overfeeding thing. The nappy rash thing could be related to teething or something caustic in her poos~ we've found the greatest solution for nappy rash is Sudocrem (basically a zinc cream) spread thickly to buttocks every change. We do this at first sign of any redness and so far, fingers crossed, no nappy rash.
Good luck with your nappy woes, hope it all works out soon!
.....hi sorry, what did you mean by formula related? She is not on formula.
Thanks for the info :)
Little Crow
19-02-2012, 15:04
I'm thinking food allergy/intollerance could be the cause of all the problems.
The frequency of poo is not a worry. But the different types of poo thru out the day (pellets, runny, regular, etc) suggests that some things are not being processed properly.
Constant nappy rash - if she is getting changed regularly and suffuciently cleaned, then rash would not normally occur - the poo must be rather acidic to cause such trouble. Higher levels of digestive acids still present in poo can be a symptom of food allergy/intollerance.
Eating poo - reminds me of Pica (when pregnant women crave inedible substances such as dirt, rubber, glass, even poo) and that is caused by malnutrition - which in turn is yet another common symptom of a digestive system which is inflamed and unable to absorb nutrients sufficiently, due to allergy/intollerance.
What have you introduced into her diet within the past few weeks? More cereals (wheat and/or gluten)? New seasonal fruits?
Ask your GP for a referral to a Paediatric Allergist.
BaronessM
20-02-2012, 02:49
Hey, sorry about the formula ref- I thought she was on formula but I prob got confused, reading and replying to too many threads at once! As she's on breastmilk I def agree with the last post about her poos being so inconsistent and may be some stomach acid undigested~ that's what I meant by caustic poos. I don't think Pica is a cause of the poo eating, Pica tends to arise far later in life and is usually put down to trace mineral deficiency. should imagine it's just experimentation or learning experience. Hope you sort it all out soon. What wonderful advice some of the other mums have given!:smiliedance:
EmmyJane
20-02-2012, 05:30
My DD's poo was a constant source of worry for me from a couple of months old until she was toilet trained (about 30 months).
I used to stress, wondering how on earth she'd ever be able to be toilet trained when her poos seem to be too runny for her to control.
She used to do very loose ones 3-4 times a day. I took her to MCHN, Dr and even hospital one weekend as I noticed a tiny amount of blood in her poo!! I was convinced something was wrong but kept getting told all was fine and normal for her age.
She suffered a little from nappy rash here and there but she recovered from it quickly, I found bepanthen to work the best for us.
She was also 35th percentile and is still on that curve now at 3 years old.
She loves her fruit, I think possibly the sugars in the fruit caused it at times, we tried lowering her intake. We cut out dairy.....nothing changed though.
Then, as if by magic, when the time came to toilet train everything settled. Just like that. Regular, formed poos, yay!
Google 'Toddler Tummy' - after everything we've been through that's all I can put my DD's situation down to.
As for the eating poo, I was lucky my DD never once tried to get into her nappy on her own or show any interest down there during nappy change time so I can't answer that one. It could just be curiosity? Something ends up in her hands do she puts her hand in her mouth? I dont know?
:)
Humphreyisapuppet
20-02-2012, 09:46
I'm thinking food allergy/intollerance could be the cause of all the problems.
The frequency of poo is not a worry. But the different types of poo thru out the day (pellets, runny, regular, etc) suggests that some things are not being processed properly.
Constant nappy rash - if she is getting changed regularly and suffuciently cleaned, then rash would not normally occur - the poo must be rather acidic to cause such trouble. Higher levels of digestive acids still present in poo can be a symptom of food allergy/intollerance.
Eating poo - reminds me of Pica (when pregnant women crave inedible substances such as dirt, rubber, glass, even poo) and that is caused by malnutrition - which in turn is yet another common symptom of a digestive system which is inflamed and unable to absorb nutrients sufficiently, due to allergy/intollerance.
What have you introduced into her diet within the past few weeks? More cereals (wheat and/or gluten)? New seasonal fruits?
Ask your GP for a referral to a Paediatric Allergist.
......:freakingout: calling my MCHN today. Did not think it would be something this complicated. She eats her poo cos its on her hands and she puts her hands in her mouth.
......yep, percentile was the 20 somethings with my DD at birth too! and yes, she also does a straight line lol
TMI - yes i am regular to the point i can time it lol but im once a day.
DD does poo pretty much after every meal...and then again
I'm relieved it could be a sign of good digestion , thankyou fo mentioning this.
You are not being naive - DD has change table toys and a mobile. If DH is home i call him to hold her hands lol ive even tried putting sox on her hands hahaha the second time i did that she scratched with the sox on - pooey sox! not as bad, but then she worked out to take them off! ggrrrr!
I have a pump bottle of detol antiseptic i rup on her hands. What worries me is when she does it in her cot lol. i dont catch her doing it. poo prints all over her sheets! Going thru THAT many cot sheets :freakingout:
Thanks for you advice:)
... a mobile on the change table! Great idea - I must do that, she has been completely impossible today (must be teething)... how these little babies can be sooooo strong is beyond me LOL
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