Dr. made me feel so guilty:(

[chubbasmummy]

Hi. I'm 7 weeks pregnant and suffering severe MS - it's not as bad as in my first pregnancy (nothing could be) but I can't function well enough to do basic chores and look after my toddler and work. My usual GP is on holidays so I went to a different dr. yesterday. I've had maxolon in tablet and injection and neither work at all. I asked him about Zofran and he said it's a last resort. I said I can't work like this and he said "I can't not prescribe it, but this is your baby we are talking about. Which is more important. Zofran CAN affect the baby". I felt like a horrible person and left in tears that I'd consider putting the baby at risk. Now, though I am confused. I have another child to take care of, I need to work and I don't take the decision to use medication in pregnancy lightly. I don't know how I'm going go get through the next few weeks.

[Berrie]

I have a friend who has chronic pain (I do too, actually) and she decided just to try to go without her meds until the baby was 13 weeks.
It was bloody hard, but she felt a lot more comfortable taking the meds she desperately needed for her pain when she knew the most critical parts of her baby's development were done.
Do you think this is something you'd be more comfortable with? Even if you can't last to 13 weeks, every week makes a difference. You can also read online what the risks are for each medication, so you can make an informed choice.
My heart goes out to you, chica.

[wrena]

Oh Chubbamummy, I had severe MS and there is nothing worse. I can't even imagine how tough it would be looking after an older child with it. I think your doctor has a point, though. Could you live with yourself if the Zofran had a long term impact on your child. To be honest, when I had MS I couldn't care less about my baby, I was just trying to survive, but if I'd done anything then that had harmed my bub I would have been absolutely eaten up with guilt now. A friend took something for severe MS that now means her soon has no tooth enamel. That absolutely kills her every day. Please ask for help and go easy on yourself. Big :hugs:

[danielle13]

Have you tried any non-medication things to help with your m/s?
I had it really bad with DD.. It was 24/7 for the first 12 weeks. I didn't have another child to look after but I did have to work. Maxalon did absolutely nothing for me.
I found that eating almonds and ginger biscuits, and drinking ginger beer really helped. It didn't get rid of it, but it took the edge off and kept the acids down so I could at least get some things done.

I hope you start to feel better, and I'm sure the gp wasnt meaning to upset you or give you the guilts :hugs:

[Jay87]

As far as I know zofran has been approved for use for pregnant women. If you can't eat you starve yourself and the baby and put higher risk of hurting you child by not being able to eat or drink.

I suffered hypermesis through this pregnancy up to 15weeks and had zofran until week 13 maxolon was used in the last two weeks.

One doctor told me to drink water and crackers without any meds as it was all in my head and I ended up in hospital severely dehydrated because I threw everything up.

He might say it can harm but my high risk specialist said nothing bad about me taking high doses of it and was giving me rescripts because I don't have shared care.

I'd get a second opinion if I were you.



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[jaesmummy]

I'm so sorry you are going through this and I'm sending you lots of cuddles and good wishes. I have little advice to give on the subject of MS but I would urge you to seek support in every way possible. There must be MS support groups? I would be ringing everyone I could. Though I don't understand MS, I do understand the dilemma of whether or not to take meds during early pregnancy and I think it's important to not feel like you're alone or make a hasty decision that you may regret later. I hope you work something out. Keep ta lking to the ladies on this forum, they will try to help you and they are great listeners. Big cuddles, hang in there honey. :hugs: :hugs:

[Theboys&me]

Honestly my sister was hospitalised every second week - they gave her jsut about every drug under the sun.... With 2 of her 3 pregnancies. Both of those kiddies are fine - but yeah research into it - I had severe morning sickness until 37 weeks... only put on 3 kg the whole pregnancy. It's horrible!! Best of luck :hugs:

[Penny88]

Gosh some healthcare professionals just don't have any bedside manner at all - I've encountered a few myself. A lot of medications say that the risk to the baby needs to be weighed against the benefit to the mother. The benefit you will get from the medication will be huge and the risk small. Not to mention it will reduce your stress and help you eat to get nutrients for your growing bubby. I'd see your usual GP if you can.

[themissingpiece]

Please don't feel guilty :(

I have had HG for each of my three pregnancies, lasting til 20 weeks on average.

All I can say is you know in your heart what you can cope with. When you are finding you cannot cope- that's when you should get help, and if that's in the form of medication then
That's when you weigh up all the pros and cons when you make that decision.

My quality of life was extremely poor, especially for my last pregnancy. I had a four and a one year old to look after, no family support, and a husband who works very long hours. I didn't work because that would have been impossible.

So I was on maxolon and zofran. I took it as sparingly as possible but without it I'm not sure I would have been able to even take my daughter to her kindy five mins away.

I couldn't do groceries, cook, clean and was barely managing to look after my children. No one can imagine how bad it is til they have been through it- and therefore cannot judge my choice to take medication. I had my other children to think of too, not just the one in my belly.

I wish you the best of luck getting through the next few weeks/months. Use the hub as support, and any real life support if you have it. Even if people don't understand, they are still usually happy to help.

Hugs

[chubbasmummy]

Thank you. I have tried every alternative therapy/home remedy etc. but this is beyond that. I don't have HG like with #1 but I'm getting worse daily. I have no family around and hubby helps after work. I've only been back in Aus for 4.5 months so no friends. We moved back after losing a lot in the earthquake in Japan in March so we came back and started from scratch. I have a good job that I need to keep and if I don't perform well, like now, it will hurt my long term prospects there. I will talk to my GP when she gets back in two weeks and weigh up options.

[RmumR]

go back and see your regular gp and have a chat with them about it.

for me zofran was my only option medication wise as im allergic to maxalon.

everytime i went off zofran for a few days id end up dehydrated and get admitted for a few days.

[lonni]

Have you tried Stematil? I have had it for nausea before.

I had severe ms the whole pregnancy with my first and im only 5 weeks and its already started, but i am allergic to maxalon, so i was given stematil, it didnt fix it every day, but i got some relief, and i was never told it would have an impact on my baby.

[CottonCandy]

Slightly off topic- sorry- but interested to hear more from those who are allergic to maxalon! I am too and have never heard of anyone else. Have been told will be hard if/when I get MS as there aren't any other options? Reading here suggests otherwise??

What reaction did you get to the maxalon if u don't mind me asking?

[RmumR]

i had a reaction to maxalon at 21yrs old. about an hour after my first dose i started feeling funny but couldnt put my finger on what was wrong.
over the next hour it progressed to me not being able to control my facial muscles and my breathing along with some swelling in my tongue and lips.
my boyfriend called an ambulance and i spent the night in the ER

[RmumR]

cottoncandy if you are unfortunante enought to suffer bad MS your options are stemitil, phenergan, or zofran.

for me stemitil is out as i have had a minor reaction to it also.

i took zofran in the daytime to function and phenergan at night (as it makes u drowsy)

[lonni]

I had a reaction to maxalon at 16, I had a stomach bug that would not go away, on my 16 th birthday I was talking to my best friend and my jaw started clenching, a little later my foot started twitching, then my arm would just raise in the air and stay there, I could not stop it, and my mum and the doc got the giggles, cause is stood there raining my arm and stomping my foot, and clenching , my jaw.

They gave me the drug to counteract then,Avalon but it sent me weird, I passed out and had trouble,talking and remembering things, could not stand or sit up was dizzy etc. When I started to get better my right hand side was hard to control, they said I was like a stroke victim.

I spent 5 days in hospital recovering and had multiple head scans and tests, even to this day when I am very tired and run down my right hand side is weak.

Maxalon is known to affect young women for some reason, older women don't seem to have a problem with it, that's what the doc said anyway.

[RachHasArrived]

I'm so so sorry. I don't have any advice, but so so many :hugs::hugs::hugs:

[becandabub]

Slightly off topic- sorry- but interested to hear more from those who are allergic to maxalon! I am too and have never heard of anyone else. Have been told will be hard if/when I get MS as there aren't any other options? Reading here suggests otherwise??

What reaction did you get to the maxalon if u don't mind me asking?

I had a similar lock-jaw type reaction to maxalon.

Stematil is class c - I thought this was not proven safe during pregnancy? I think your doctor is harsh OP. MS is punishing when it's out of control. As a pp said, if you're not getting any nutrition, what is worse for your bub? It's not like you're insisting they hook it up to your veins for a constant supply! Zofran is widely used to assist with severe MS. Maxalon does nothing for a lot of people. I think under necessary circumstances, the sparing use of class a drugs is suitable. I think it's very unfair for anyone to judge or guilt you about this - they've no idea what it's like to live in your body currently. You poor bugger!! xx

[Lollie1990]

I had a reaction to maxalon at 16, I had a stomach bug that would not go away, on my 16 th birthday I was talking to my best friend and my jaw started clenching, a little later my foot started twitching, then my arm would just raise in the air and stay there, I could not stop it, and my mum and the doc got the giggles, cause is stood there raining my arm and stomping my foot, and clenching , my jaw.

They gave me the drug to counteract then,Avalon but it sent me weird, I passed out and had trouble,talking and remembering things, could not stand or sit up was dizzy etc. When I started to get better my right hand side was hard to control, they said I was like a stroke victim.

I spent 5 days in hospital recovering and had multiple head scans and tests, even to this day when I am very tired and run down my right hand side is weak.

Maxalon is known to affect young women for some reason, older women don't seem to have a problem with it, that's what the doc said anyway.

I had the same reaction to maxalon and stematil. Severe lock jaw to the point where I cracked 1 of my teeth and they also make me have a panic attack. So the only thing for nausea they are allowed to give me is zofran. Because they know what will happen if they give me maxalon or stematil and yes it is very hard to get prescribed zofran because it is only suppose to be given to people under going chemo or radiation treatment and I have seen 3 dr's 1 of them being my gynae and they all told me zofran was safe to take during pregnancy. I am currently ttc-ing for my first and I dont cope to well with nausea. I suffer from chronic migraines that put me in hospital. So I will deff need something for nausea and I am not allowed to take anything else except for zofran.

[CottonCandy]

Thank you everyone!!

Yes- same reaction here for me. All my muscles started clenching uncontrollably more and more over a 12 hour period- including poking my tongue out uncontrollably- until I was curled in a ball and my face barely recognizable. Went to a pharmacist and two GP but none could tell me what was wrong until I went into the ER and doc knew straight away. Within minutes I was 100% fine.

The reaction was to the active ingredient Metaclopramide- does anyone know if this is present in Stematil? It wasn't actually Maxalon that I had been taking, but Pramin, commonly given for migraines (I had a kidney infection- well UTI which was misdiagnosed but thats a whole other story).
I was told later that the reaction causes a Parkinson's-like reaction in your brain- hence the strange incontrolable muscle spasms. I was lucky to not suffer any long term effects, I am sorry to hear that you did lonni :(

Sorry OP for sidetracking- I don't know much about Zofran, but some doc have terrible bedside manner- not nice at all :( I hope you feel better soon!

[happygirl1982]

Prochlorperazine for stemtil

[happygirl1982]

Pramin and maxolon same drug different brand. PrAmin is the generic

[CottonCandy]

Pramin and maxolon same drug different brand. PrAmin is the generic

Yup- Metaclopramide is the drug.