Support Thread for Circumcision [Archive] - Bub Hub Pregnancy & Parenting Forum

jkate

05-10-2006, 07:43

This is offtopic (but I can't PM everyone :D): anyone who wants to start a thread specifically for ppl who have chosen to circ, with some ground rules about it not being a debating thread is more than welcome to.

This thread was not explicitly started for that purpose, but you are most welcome to create one similar to the bottle feeding support thread and the women who have had electives thread, both of which are very positive, very supportive and very popular.

Cheers All

:smiliedance: Thanks xkwzit

As stated in the quote this thread is for members who wish discuss circumcision without it being debated. Although we may discuss why we chose to circumcised our sons, it is not for other members to question why. There are many threads already started where all members can express their opinions.

I hope this thread does stay positive, and help support all those who have or will circumcise their sons. Thank you. :)

Mods, I hope I have started this out ok, please add or delete anything that is necessary.

jkate

05-10-2006, 07:53

Ok, I will start.....

Both DH and I decided before we had children that any sons would be circumsised. In both our familys any male that had not be done, had then health problems some when they were a child others when they were older. I am a big believer in prevention is better then cure in some cases (and this is definitely one). I also suffer from recurring uti's, and I wouldn't want any of my children to go through pain similar to this.

With DS1 we waited till he was 14mths, because at the time we were advised by our local doctor that the ped perfer if the children were over 1 year of age. We did find out later, that he would and could do the procedure for babies under 6 weeks.

When DS2 was born we had moved to a new area, the doctor I saw to get a referral was not very helpful, I had to ring around surgeons to ask if they do circumcision for non health reasons. Thankfully my SIL knew someone in Newcastle that does only circumcision using the bell method. He was wonderful, and if we are to have another son I will definitely be going back to him.

Well that's my story, I do hope this thread stays positive. I know it is a emotional topic, and that everyone has there own strong views.

tweedledee*tweedledum

05-10-2006, 08:04

Firstly, well done for starting a thread on this topic that hopefully :fingerscrossed: stays true to your original post! I have not circumcised my son, although it could be on the cards. My husband is currently in the process of organising a circumcision for himself as he has had years and years of pain. He tried everything he could, even the "stretching" method, which he found at times to be even more painful than the problem itself and also it can take years to do. After very careful consideration and research he has decided to get a circ and it was not an easy choice believe me! As for our son, he has mentioned he hopes that he doesn't go through the pain he went through, although we already know that it is most likely he has the same issue. At this stage, we are putting it off, but no doubt we will probably be needing to do it as I do not want my son to suffer like my husband did.

rval

05-10-2006, 12:53

:yelclap: Well done for your post!!!
I have very recently had my son circumcised in Melbourne. We researched the pros and cons very carefully and strongly believe we would be doing the wrong thing if we did not have him circumcised. I wish people would read all the recent research being done about circumcision. Most of their arguments are about 10 years out of date.
Anyway, we had him done using the plastibell and are thrilled with the procedure and the result.
The clinic was absolutely wonderful and if anyone would like their details please let me know.

bigglet

05-10-2006, 13:01

Thanks for this thread :thumbsup:

I don't know where I stand at this point and if I were to have a son I don't know what I would choose as yet - my DH and most of my guy friends are circ'd and have no problem should I want to choose this for my son (they in turn are open minded or believe in it themselves) but my father, brother and some other friends are not - I don't know what they think of this to be honest.

But I'm looking forward to reading why you have chosen to do so - it helps people like me make the choice should I need to in the future! :)

nemosmum

05-10-2006, 13:49

Firstly just wanted to send this to Jkat:yelclap:

Well as some people know already we did have our son circumsized.

It is culturally acceptable in both our families (especially dh's as he has some cousins who have had major health problems and needed surgery later on in life)

I really wasnt really fussed as i couldnt see the benefit to getting it done......BUT dh felt very strongly about it so I allowed him to organise the procedure.

Our GP refused to give us a referal as she didnt think it was a necessary procedure, so we organized one through the doctor that did the circ.

DH went in with ds (he was about 5 weeks old)
I waited in the waiting room and as soon as i heard my sons cries of pain my milk let down and i started crying uncontrollably:crying:

When dh bought our son out to me he was so worked up he wouldnt even latch on to the breast.......he finally fell asleep out of exhaustion and pain.

The next 7 days were horrific for both ds and I (dh didnt seem at all fazed by it) ds was on panadol for at least 4-5 days after the procedure.

I have had alot of guilt since that day and it has taken me a long time to just be able to look at my sons penis without feeling overwhelmed by guilt, when ever I nappy changed i would always look away coz i was so ashamed.

Im not writing this to deter any would be circumsizers....just sharing my own experience.

I really regret having my son done but only because i have alot of guilt as a mum I feel like i let my son down by consenting to this procedure.
I feel it is his body and i have taken something from him that he can never get back again........:crying:

I am pg again and have a real fear of having another son as i know dh will again insist on having him circumsized and i just dont even want to think about it.

I know some friends who have sons(not circ.) my ds's age and they are already experiencing some problems, they have expressed their regret over not getting their sons done..............two sides to every story

I hope that this thread stays peaceful and positive.....hope my post wasnt too much of a downer:o

Thanks again to Jkat for giving us a safe place to post our stories.

05-10-2006, 14:03

Thanks Jkat, a nice place to share our experiences without being judged and berrated for it.

I have 2 sons and they both have been circ. My DS#1 was done when he was over 12 months as the local doctor (the only one) that did circ, did them under a local after they were 12 months. He had absolutely no trouble, even at that age.

My DS#2 was done at 2.5 weeks, which I must admit I was feeling pretty darn bad about. There are no doctors in our local area that do the procedure anymore so we had to travel to Sydney to get it done. The doctor and nurses were wonderful and very comforting (to both me and bub). If I were to have another son, I would again have him circ.

My DH grew up with his best mate who is not circ. All through their childhood he can remember his mate having terrible infections and uti even into his adult life. I know that not every man who is not circ gets infections, but this was the reasoning behind my DH (and my) decision to have our sons circ.

CrazyBeautiful

05-10-2006, 15:06

Cool thread JKAT!!!!!!:thumbsup: I didn't circ my DS as the response and reaction I got from some Midwives at the hospital was that of utter horror and shock!!!:eek: DH is done, I wouldn't have it any other way (wink, wink)!!! So good on you JKAT!!!!:yelclap:

jkate

05-10-2006, 15:20

Thank you everyone for you stories. I am glad I started the thread, I wasn't sure how it would go. But when I read xkzwit post in the previous thread, I was so excited and I thought well I did make two posts whinging that we didn't have any place to go with out the debate, so I should be the one to start it :o

Nemosmum :hugs: I am sorry that it had to be traumatic for you and DS, especially when I know it doesn't have to be like that. I have also sent you a pm.

After having one son have the procedure done at 14 months and another at 4 weeks old (and knowing a 60 yr old man having go through it) I believe the earlier its done the easier it is for all involved. But I also understand that there are many reasons that some wait.

tweedledee*tweedledum all the best for you DH, the 60 yr old man I mention that had to get the procedure done, found the hardest thing was people reactions. A lot of people laugh thinking it was funny that a 60 yr old was getting an circumcision, yet he was in so much pain.

Thank you again for all the replies, keep them coming :smiliedance:

twolittlegirls

05-10-2006, 15:20

Good idea JKAT. I've never really posted in the circ thread always in fear of getting shot down. We don't have a son but if we do have one we WILL be having him done. There isn't a person in mine or my husbands family who isn't done. I think its really nice to have some supportive people to talk to about this issue!!

Just a quick story. When I was pregnant with DD and I was talking to my doc about it, he said to me that he could give me 5 good reasons for and 5 good reasons against. He then said that one of the best reasons he could give me for was to take me up to the old folks (so politically correct I know!!) part of the hospital and I could make my mind up from there!! It was very nice talking to a doctor who was so helpful!

almond eyes

05-10-2006, 17:04

Hi everyone,

I am so glad I am now able to post in the circumcision thread without the fear of feeling like I'm being interrogated. The good thing about being part of a parenting forum is having the opportunity to learn and share ideas and information with other parents to help you make the best decisions for your children.

Yes, my son is circumcised. I have read a lot of posts in here about the various reasons why other parents have done it, mostly medical, religious or aesthetic. My reason is cultural.

I come from the Philippines. Circumcision is not only accepted in my country, it is expected. All males in my family are circumcised. All my male friends are too. 90 percent, if not a hundred percent of the male population is circumcised. Now, I'm sure some will say that a practice may not be right just because it is widely done and prevalent. This is correct. However, if you grow up in a certain environment and go against the norm, this can also leave you psychologically or emotionally damaged or traumatized. It is so easy to comment and criticise when you are an observer but not if you are an actual member of the community. It takes one that shares the same field of experience to actually understand this from a cultural point of view.

Boys in my country line up every summer to have it done. They are excited to have it done. Why summer? Well, so that when school starts and they have to undress during gym class, they wouldn't feel different. My sister refused to have her sons circumcised but when her eldest turned 13, he asked this to be his birthday gift because he was being teased too much. Boys who are uncircumcised are called wusses or "supot", which directly translates to uncut and in my language, figuratively means, " a coward."

I asked my male bestfriend once, if he would have his son circumcised and he replied with, "yes. it is a rite of passage." I told him I was having my son done as a newborn and he vehemently said, "why rob him off an experience which he should be sharing with his peers." Apparently, he had it done with a bunch of his friends the summer of their 12th birthday. Well, I told him, I'm having my son done as a baby to avoid all the psychological trauma a young Filipino boy has to go through. I think a young child has to face enough day to day challenges.

I hope this gives you an insight on how things are in other parts of the world. My husband and I moved to Australia because of work related reasons. I am actually glad I am currently in a country that will openly discuss the issue so parents can make the decisions they feel are the right ones for their family. I made the decision to have my boy circumcised because I felt it was the right one, given my family's cultural background. It would help him cope so much better in a critical environment (Philippines)-as far as circumcision is concerned. It would also help him in the hygienic department, if only to make it a few steps easier to clean.

We are a nomadic family and we will, I have no doubt, see many more countries and experience different cultures but my family will go home one day. I am not ethnocentric, in fact, I am very accepting of other cultures. I may not always agree but I try to understand. I hope my story gives you a look into a different cultural perspective, just like a Discovery channel special, without the lights and sound show.

Thanks for reading. :)

lukaelmo

05-10-2006, 17:11

Hey Almond Eyes, I just read your post, and just wanted to let you know that I thought you really showed another side of the issue. I have never understood why people have their boys circumsized, in your case however, it certainly makes sense.

I am sure that if I were in your position, I would be doing the same thing.

almond eyes

05-10-2006, 17:20

Thanks lukaelmo :)

I just wanted people to know that the world is incredibly huge and there are many reasons why a certain group will do things a different way. Although, I also see how some practices may seem really horrifying to people who grew up in an environment that does not share the same practices.

I hope :fingerscrossed: no one posts and asks me about "female circumcision" because I have no idea first hand what that is like and it certainly is not part of my culture. (sorry if am paranoid and am jumping the gun :laughing: )

libandneo

05-10-2006, 17:23

Thanks for starting this thread.. it is nice to be able to discuss this issue calmly and rationally without being name called or guilted out by others who have strong opposing opinions.

OK, with our son, now 17 months, we had decided to get it done even before he was born. My cautionary tale relates to the topic of who performs it. We asked out **** paediatrician (we didn't know how **** he was at the time.. he treats at the Mater in Brisbane if anyone is curious) for a referral and he gave us the name of a local GP who was one of few people in Brisbane doing these procedures.

Later on thanks to the amazing Chris *yay - love that girl* at Labrador child health on the Gold Coast that there was a fantastic paediatric surgeon there named Dr Bailey. We went to see her and had counselling (i.e. they try to talk you out of it) and booked bubby in for after he turned 6 months old).

On the big day I was feeling pretty upset and wished my husband had been there to look after him, as getting the op done was really his idea but I was dealing with the aftermath (typical). Baby came back covered in blood and very upset and for that whole day and week afterwards I felt like the worst mother in the world. With pain relief and using nappy liners he recovered quickly and was not traumatised.. at least these days they get pain relief!

The reasons in favour as we are concerned are religious but also I know of several teenage boys who have had this surgery as adolescents because their foreskins got infected or the skin became inelastic and hurt them when they had erections. Also many nurses will tell you lots of men in nursing homes have them done for the same reasons.

That's my 2cents, thanks for the opportunity

Libby
DH: Jard
DS: Neo Xavier born 26.05.05
DS: expected 11.12.06

jkate

05-10-2006, 18:07

Amond Eyes I will admit, I never thought of cultral reasons. Thank you for sharing your story, and helping more of us understand.

Libby, can I ask will DS2 be done as well? If so is there anywhere else you can go, maybe have it done earlier? I hope I haven't offended you with these questions, I just know that it can be done much more simpler.

almond eyes

05-10-2006, 19:59

Thank you Jkat for opening the thread. I feel now that parents who have decided to have their boys done can openly express their reasons. I don't think any responsible parent makes such serious decisions, such as circumcision on a whim.

Lolo

10-10-2006, 21:09

My husband wanted to circumcise baby Chris because he and his brither both had some problems with infections, and he felt it was cleaner. I didn't really know much about it, but we talked to my obs/gyn when I was pregnant and he said definitely go for it, and he will do the cut when the baby is about 2 or 3 days old in the hospital. We live in Lebanon, and here not everyone does it in the Christian community, but I think it is more common than in Australia.

After baby was born I was so worried that he would hurt and be in pain and cry (he is our first baby), I wanted to tell my husband to call it off. Each time I asked the nurse when the doctor would come to do it, she would say, I'll let you know when he comes.

On the 2nd night in the hospital, they brought Chris to me so I could feed him and he slept peacefully all night in my room. I asked the nurse at about 2am when the doctor was coming because I was leaving in the morning. She said he already circumsiced Chris at 10pm! I said "he's not crying!"

I still don't know if he was in pain, but the nurse showed me how to bathe him carefully and he didn't seem to notice, or flinch, or cry. I don't regret this decision, although we heard so many comments from the pediatrician, family, even my in-laws. Previously I didn't have anything for or against circumcision, I just didn't want him to feel pain. So my experience is comforting in this sense.

jkate

10-10-2006, 21:19

:hugs: Lolo thankyou for sharing your story.

mumtok&z

11-10-2006, 00:11

Great thread jkat! We will be getting our boys done. We are muslim so our reason is religious. I am currently locating a DR to perform the procedure and am hoping to get the boys done together. once it is done there will be a big gathering with my family for the boys. Prayers will be offered and the boys will recieve gifts and money!

becca74

18-10-2006, 19:25

I cant judge when it comes to circ, as I used to be anti-circ, despite phimosis being rampant in my family and being warned by my parents, and my brothers who experienced it, that I should do it, I ended up having to get my boys done anyway (Aged 5 and 3 at the time). (I still have to get my DS3 done). My DS4 was circ'd at 8 days by a Rabbi, and my eldest commented on how he was happy that his baby brother would never have to remember being 'fixed' like he so vividly remembers. (despite the general, both boys were in agony for about 2-3 hours afterward).

My gorgeous DH :kiss: got himself done a few months before our sons were done out of sympathy and so he'd look the same as them....

I just wish I'd not been so arrogant about doing my sons at birth - would have prevented a lot of unnecessary trauma!

SalTheGal

18-10-2006, 19:52

Just a quick story. When I was pregnant with DD and I was talking to my doc about it, he said to me that he could give me 5 good reasons for and 5 good reasons against. He then said that one of the best reasons he could give me for was to take me up to the old folks (so politically correct I know!!) part of the hospital and I could make my mind up from there!! It was very nice talking to a doctor who was so helpful!

I'm sorry to sound ignorant but I don't get the bit bout the old folks?

If our bub is a boy we will be having him circ'd. I have come across so many guys who have had problems later on in life from not being done.

In my own personal exp an ex boyfriend tore his foreskin during intercourse and had to be circ'd as an adult- it was an extremely traumatic experience for both of us at the time, I felt guilty like it was my fault and he felt like a failure or a freak because it happened (and thats not even starting on the blood). I wouldn't wish that upon anyone!

bigglet

18-10-2006, 21:44

I'm sorry to sound ignorant but I don't get the bit bout the old folks?

I think what this means is that there can be a high(er) incidence of elderly men who get infections because they are unable to clean themselves properly and unfortunately they may not get the attention of nursing home staff or other carers to clean it for them resulting in painful infections. If they were circ'd then the chances of infection would be much lower.

SalTheGal

19-10-2006, 06:57

Thanks Bigglet- that makes perfect sense!!! :thumbsup:

Shajbm

19-10-2006, 16:54

Finally a thread where it's okay to say you have circ'd your son.

We too did it for religious reasons. Our son was circ'd at 8 days old by we call them Mohels. They are not quite rabbis but are religious and able to perform the circ from a religious perspective. He is also and GP with minor surgical experience.

We didn't have a choice, but like many other parents had to deal with all the negativity from midwives and the like at the hospital etc. My DS was fine throughout and wouldn't have a clue about the procedure.

We're expecting identical twin boys in Feb and they will be circ'd as well.

Thanks for starting the thread and may we all be allowed to express our rights.

kristi001

19-10-2006, 21:50

Me and my Partner wanted to get our son circumcised but because of the pressure i was put under to not do it i held off and now when i went to book it in they say my son is too old and i have to wait untill he is 12 months. I feel bad because it was me, not my partner, that put it off for this long and now we have to wait till his 12 months. I think it will be more upsetting for me now we have to wait. Any advice

jkate

20-10-2006, 20:08

Thanks for your storys ladies.

kristi001 if you live in Sydney, I think I know a doctor who does it after 6 months (but I can't be 100% sure:o )..with DS1 we didn't have him done till he was 14 mths because of being advise to wait by our GP, so with that and including waiting time he was older then I would have like, one reason that DS2 was done quiet young. It does get harder as they get older, but with a good doctor and can also be done without too much stress on you and bubs. DS1 was up and walking (and eating :laughing: ) only 1/2 hour later, and he wasn't in too much pain the days after either. I wont say its not hard, I cried when they took DS1 in and couldn't get there fast enough when I was allowed to see him - one of the hardest things I have ever had to do as a parent, but I also knew that it was for the best (my reasons for circ are in the first post:o ) HTH PM if you need too :hugs:

CaseyorMarshall

22-10-2006, 22:47

Hi
I am currently 5 weeks pregnant and my partner and I have discussed the issue and both agreed that if we have a son he will be circumsised. I think it would be alot easier for them when they are a baby as they wont know the pain as much. I know a boy I went to school with his mother didnt have him done as a baby and he had to have it done when he was 15 due to an infection and he had told us he didnt speak to his mother for weeks because there was so much pain and embarrassment, knowing that other kids would find out and got teased so bad. I would hate for my son to be in that situation at that age and feel that way towards me. I know most men if they had it done say in their 20's they would be whinging for weeks like they have a knife in their back. I know a guy who 'tore' his foreskin during sex and then claimed for a week that he couldnt even fold clothes because it was too painful for him to move.
Well thats all from me atm :ecomcity: :laughing:
Sarah
:bfp:

SairBear

07-11-2006, 11:05

if we have a boy and get him circ. when is it usually done? age wise?

Sarie

07-11-2006, 11:58

Hey Sarah, there's a great doc at MacGregor who did our boys they were done a bit older 3 months plus where the younger the better. I'll dig out his details if you'd like.

~Candy~

07-11-2006, 13:48

M O P

07-11-2006, 13:55

I'm not going to tell anyone to have it done or not- personal choice, as with all parenting decisions but
our son was circumcised in hospital on day 3 with no problems what so ever.
It was a very simple op, my husband went with him and the Dr while I filled in the paperwork. They were back in our room in about 10 minutes and Hugh pretty much went to sleep.
The Dr was very good and showed my husband what to do if something was to go wrong and how to tell if something wasn't right.
A day or day after we got home the plastic fell off in his nappy with no infection or complications.

SairBear

07-11-2006, 21:08

Hi Sarah :)

As sarie posted, his name is Dr Terry Russell. I have his details right here, not sure if I'm allowed to post his ph number?? I have a 6 week old bub who was ment to be done tomorrow!, but he has jaundice that's slowly going away, so I had to make it for another cpl of weeks now.

p.s....I'm at Alex Hills too :)

Cool.. im new to all this and i know DP would really like to have it done if we have a boy (find out next week at 19wk scan)
i know its early still. but i wanna sort it all out, so we are organised if it goes this way. the details would be great. Did u need a appt b4 the circ was done? would i need to make one soon? is there much of a wait? sooo many questions!

COOL! 1st alex hills person ive met on here :)

~Candy~

08-11-2006, 12:28

Cool.. im new to all this and i know DP would really like to have it done if we have a boy (find out next week at 19wk scan)
i know its early still. but i wanna sort it all out, so we are organised if it goes this way. the details would be great. Did u need a appt b4 the circ was done? would i need to make one soon? is there much of a wait? sooo many questions!

COOL! 1st alex hills person ive met on here :)

Ok..here's the web site, you'll find his contact details, procedure ect on this :) www.circumcision.com.au (http://www.circumcision.com.au)
You don't need to make an appoinment untill he's born. Not really a much of a waiting list, I got in within 2 weeks. You'll go in for a consultation first, then he'll be circumcised the next day or close to.
Where abouts are you going for your scan? The place next to mcdonalds is really good, she's very thorough, took her time and didn't rush though it.

maybebaby

08-11-2006, 14:29

My 4 yr old nephew will be getting circumcised soon as he is in a lot of pain he cant clean himself as the foreskin wont pull back he has been on the hospital waiting list 1 yr so far the dr said it will be painful (i imagine it would be)he will have to wee in the bath but it has to be done I am not against it at all both my brothers are done .

OscarTheGrouch

08-11-2006, 16:07

I didn't get my DS circumsised. DH had the final say and he said 'no'. Which surprised me as he has never had any issues with being circed himself. But anyway, I just wanted to say that I'm glad you guys have got a positive thread to discuss your support for circumcism without being criticised for your decision. Well done JKAT!!

SairBear

09-11-2006, 18:02

Ok..here's the web site, you'll find his contact details, procedure ect on this :) www.circumcision.com.au (http://www.circumcision.com.au)
You don't need to make an appoinment untill he's born. Not really a much of a waiting list, I got in within 2 weeks. You'll go in for a consultation first, then he'll be circumcised the next day or close to.
Where abouts are you going for your scan? The place next to mcdonalds is really good, she's very thorough, took her time and didn't rush though it.

thanks for that website!
and for the info! :)

goin for scan at qld xray on the cnr behind the chemist warehouse in capalaba.. they are good and mums and middie and she likes the techs/docs there.

MotherNurture

10-11-2006, 05:45

Ok..here's the web site, you'll find his contact details, procedure ect on this :) www.circumcision.com.au (http://www.circumcision.com.au)

In another thread ("Circumcision in Melbourne (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=38712&page=2)"), someone mentioned (and provided documentation) that he's had complaints & diciplinary action taken against him for unethical behavior. He was reprimanded, counseled, and fined thousands of dollars.

Make sure you really research providers before choosing one.

Best Wishes,

Jen

OscarTheGrouch

10-11-2006, 06:34

In another thread ("Circumcision in Melbourne (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=38712&page=2)"), someone mentioned (and provided documentation) that he's had complaints & diciplinary action taken against him for unethical behavior. He was reprimanded, counseled, and fined thousands of dollars.

Make sure you really research providers before choosing one.

Best Wishes,

Jen
This is actually a support thread for people who choose to circumcise.

xkwzit

10-11-2006, 14:13

The moderators have discussed MN's post, and as it is not negative of the circumcision procedure, we have decided it is appropriate for this thread.

We want all parents to be as informed as possible when making this important decision and we don't think it is in anyone's interest to suppress relevant information.

Cheers

~Candy~

10-11-2006, 17:05

In another thread ("Circumcision in Melbourne (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=38712&page=2)"), someone mentioned (and provided documentation) that he's had complaints & diciplinary action taken against him for unethical behavior. He was reprimanded, counseled, and fined thousands of dollars.

Make sure you really research providers before choosing one.

Best Wishes,

Jen

From what I just read on that thread ( a post by "Olddad"...it has to do with TONGUE TIE.....NOT CIRCUMCISION :)

OscarTheGrouch

11-11-2006, 07:40

From what I just read on that thread ( a post by "Olddad"...it has to do with TONGUE TIE.....NOT CIRCUMCISION :)
The information has also been repeated and posted several times from another BH member. Yes, from what I have read it is in referal to TONGUE TIE and NOT CIRCUMCISM.:yes:

SalTheGal

11-11-2006, 11:14

Hi mums (and dads),

we are off to get our son Nedd circ'd on monday, bit scared!!!!

he is having the plastibell method, anyone got any pearls of wisdom on what to expect bub wise (and me emotionally!!) And if anyone as any little tips on how to cope with the day they will be most appreciated!!

Thanks:)

Briannabear

11-11-2006, 12:31

Good luck Sal. :hugs: to little Nedd. We're having Lachlan done on Tuesday. Very not looking forward to it, but Im happy with our decision to get it done.

OscarTheGrouch

11-11-2006, 12:51

A bit of research to share with you all.:D

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/118/5/1971

Sarie

11-11-2006, 13:00

CONCLUSIONS. These findings suggest that uncircumcised males are at greater risk of acquiring sexually transmitted infection than circumcised males. Male circumcision may reduce the risk of sexually transmitted infection acquisition and transmission by up to one half, suggesting substantial benefits accruing from routine neonatal circumcision

Interesting article, though that wasn't really a reason for circ'ing, I hope both boys will be careful about that when they are old enough but thanks for posting!

OscarTheGrouch

11-11-2006, 13:06

Sarie

11-11-2006, 13:11

Good stuff it's great to see!

jkate

11-11-2006, 13:42

Best of luck for Tuesday sal :hugs.

Thanks for the link OTG - interesting read :yes:

SalTheGal

11-11-2006, 20:47

Hey Becca, :hugs: to you and Lachlan too. Good luck for tuesday! I'll be thinking of you:) .

BobBuilder

16-11-2006, 09:59

Hi all,
Just wanted to give a blokes perspective, as I see this topic mainly being discussed by women - not only on this site, but across most - no offence ladies :wave:

Glad to see a positive and considered thread, on a topic, that often gets very heated.

To be honest, I am suprised at the current trend to not circ boys. I think it is mainly modivated by:
- mothers not wanting to cause their infant pain
- doctors not wanting to 'recommend' a procedure that is not medicaly required (potential legal implications).

Both arguments are sound, in isolation, but I think they miss the big picture...

When an infant is done, which I was, it is not an issue for the person, who later becomes a man. I have never once thought that I am 'missing' something and, in addition, I have never had the embaresment of having 'interference' by others, (being that my parents or doctor), with an infection.

Sure, this may sound non-pc, but hey, these are the facts, as I see it.

Reasons why I support circ, and will be having my boy done as an infant are:
- Minimal pain if done as an infant. Infants are in so much pain, with bones still soft, stomach getting used to contents (wind) etc, this extra cut - relatively speaking - is minimal.
- No potential health problems later in life
- Women, now be honest here, prefer a circ penis in a partner
- More convinient as a male. Don't need to be worrying about cleaning it twice a day, let alone after sex, I can just roll-over, without being worried of build-up' under a foreskin.

At the end of the day, doing this to my son, seems like the most responsible thing to do - and if I didn't do it, I'd feel I was letting my son down.

I'd hate to have my son go through that oppertation later in life, with added pain and humiliation. If I can take away that risk, early on, without him ever knowing anything different - that is offering a better life to my boy.

:hugs:

misskittyfantastico

16-11-2006, 11:44

I'd just like to remind everyone that this thread is pro-circumcision

We have many active threads that have information about the cons of circumcision.

~Candy~

17-11-2006, 10:11

That was a great read bobthebuilder :) My dh says the same thing too! Well said :thumbsup:

FunkyMonkey

17-11-2006, 11:45

We had DS circ at 10 weeks as i was unsure at first and canceled his first appointment when he was 1wk. I wish i had kept that first appointment as we had a pretty tough time of it for almost a month afterwards.
He was circ by Dr Terry Russell using the plastibell but if we have another i think we will insist on a traditional circ due to problems DS had.
I had quite a lot of guilt after but I'm sure we made the right decision. I'm just glad he won't remember.
Jaime.

Sarie

18-11-2006, 06:51

Thanks for the post bobthebuilder my DH says much the same as you.

Shajbm

18-11-2006, 23:10

Sairbear, my son was done at 8 days old. We had no problems afterwards and he is fine today. Will be doing it again soon. Good luck

defaipe

20-11-2006, 23:35

i used to be really against the idea... one of those people who said "why remove something that is MEANT to be there" :rolleyes: :laughing: :o
anyway!! my sis has 4 boys, 13 10 & almost 2yrold twins.. her two older boys had to be circumcised due to the skin not stretching as they grew. the pain they went through was not nice. thankfully they had no problems with their ops(which they had at the same time, aged 10 & 7). my sis has not had the twins done as she does feel its unnecessary but should they have the same prob(which odds are they will) they'll be getting theirs done too once they're a little older..

oh and bobbuilder cant comment on circed men as never been with a guy whos been been done! however if i have a son i wont be getting him circumcised.. and i wont feel guilty about it or that i've let him down. but i do like your post and its nice to see a males perspective.

ImSethsMum

22-11-2006, 10:24

I agree Bob the builder! well said. I have to say that over my single years I have experience both non-circ and circ'd men and yes a circ'd is prefered LOL.

We had our son done at 3 weeks old by Dr Terry Russell (who's website is fantastic with tons of info and testemonials, medical reviews etc) using the platibel method. Seth didnt cry at all and wasnt in any discomfort or distress.

We chose to have it done for medical issues (due to family history of complications later in life) and we are very happy with our decision. My nephew was done at 3 wks old also for the same reason.

Lucky for me I had a partner to ask his point of view and let him make the final decision, but recently I was talking with a single mum who doesnt have any male influences to ask and was unsure what to do - Im glad there is a place like this where single mums can get info without the negative comments found on alot of forums.

~V&M~

24-11-2006, 10:48

Sal and Becca, how did your little boys go with the procedure?

DH and I have decided (well Dh did and I'm warming to it) that if we have a boy he'll be getting circ'd and being in Brisbane, we're looking at Dr Terry Russell.

Would love some feedback from parents who have had their boys done with the plastibell method, just to put my mind at ease! What ages were they done? I'm thinking the younger the better :confused:

Loving this thread by the way. It's fantastic to be able to come somewhere and not have to put up with the emotional rubbish the other threads dish out! Keep up the great work :thumbsup:

Briannabear

24-11-2006, 11:22

Hi V&M!
Lachlan's circ went well thanks. Its nearly all healed up. He was 4 weeks when we got it done, and I wouldnt have wanted to get it done any later.
Very pleased with the plastibell method.
Feel free to PM me if you want to know more about it.
:)

~Candy~

25-11-2006, 07:05

Hi V&M,

We just had our ds done on Thursday by Dr Terry Russell. Everything went well and it seems to be healing nicely. I also had my other ds done there almost 8 yrs ago, all went well with him to :) I had my 1st ds done when he was about 1 week old, but Corey was 8 1/2 weeks, we had to wait as he had jaundice and he was also born 4 weeks early, so I wasn't going to get him done till he was "full term" anyway as his penis would have been too small (he's a tiny baby). I do think it's best they get done asap though..within the first few weeks. There is usually a 2 week waiting list, so as soon as he is born..book an appointment, you go for a consultation first, to make sure everything is all good and you get all the info, then the circ is done within the next few days after that. :)

maybebaby

25-11-2006, 12:40

My 4 yr old nephew was done last week for medical reasons he was very sore for 2 days but now he is great he is also very proud of his new willy(AS HE CALLS IT)nothing wrong with having it done at all he also has 2 brothers and no they are not done.

SalTheGal

26-11-2006, 12:32

Hi everyone,

Nedd got through the plastibell procedure fantastically. He even slept through the whole thing, then straight home for a feed.

Although I don't think I was prepared for how 'yucky' it would look, I hadn't really thought about what to expect and I felt horrible for a few days thinking I had put him through such pain, but he wasn't the slightest bit concerned!!!

And he is all fine now- it dropped of no probs and personally I am so glad we had it done. Wouldn't change the decision at all.:yes:

Mummyrik

28-11-2006, 21:44

Hi,
My son is a week old, and we are looking at having him circumcised. I was wondering if anyone knows of a doctor who uses the plastibell method in Sydney?

Thanks

SairBear

29-11-2006, 09:58

Well we found out the sex and its a BOY! so we are gonna organise for circ after afew weeks after hes born...

bubbasmum

29-11-2006, 17:17

Thanks for starting this thread! I have to admit reading through some of the other threads on this topic, i was starting to feel very guilty and unsure about our decision to have our son (if thats what we are having lol) circumcised. After reading all of your reasons and thoughts i now feel confident with our decision and feel it is the right thing to do for us. So thank you once again people!:hugs:

Also just wondering if it is covered by medicare? Im guessing its probably not.

SalTheGal

29-11-2006, 21:29

Hi bubbasmum, where we had the procedure done we could have gone onto the public waiting list which would have been free, however the wiat was about 12mnths at which time general anaesthetic is introduced increasing risks.

So we opted to go privately- however we do get some money back from medicare on the initial consult and the procedure, not much, but better than nothing!

~V&M~

11-12-2006, 16:34

Thanks for the updates girls! It makes the rest of us feel more confident in our decisions hearing it all went so well :yes: :thumbsup:

jkate

14-02-2007, 07:26

I just wanted to "bump" this up. As I know there are a few parents out there making some decisions.
All the best with what ever decision you make :hugs:

theycallmemum

14-02-2007, 08:28

Thanks so much everyone for your posts, it helps to read them. I have 3 sons, all uncircumcised. My middle son will be circumcised soon as he has too many problems that are getting worse (he's 8) as he gets older. He is actually looking forward to it, not the surgery of course, but not having a sore swollen penis anymore. He will have it done under a general aenesthetic.

viperpt

17-02-2007, 08:27

Thank god for this thread. I was starting to get very upset with alot of members. All Ive seen in every thread is Bad bad, baby dies from cardiac arrest due to circumsion. Im sick of it, its easy to base your opinion on something you have never actually been through. either as a parent or as the actual person. Im so glad I was starting to feel like I was the only one who believed in it anymore

jkate

17-02-2007, 08:45

Samarinda

18-02-2007, 02:41

My sister who lives in Australia just told me about this board and I've found it really helpful to read. I've taken a peep at some of the other threads on this subject and think it is a good thing to have this support thread where you can be away from all the anti circumcision stuff.

I live in London, England with DH and (so far!) two sons aged two and four. They are unusual because they are both circumcised and it is not popular over here as it was years ago. It pretty much only ends up being done if it's your religion or if you have a problem. Neither of those reasons are ours. I just wanted it done because DH is, and I really like him that way. It's cleaner and neater and looks better. Both DH and his brother were cut as babies because his father (who is not done!) had a job in Bermuda and the family lived there for a few years. Their doctor recommended it because of the heat and humidity. At times it's sweaty and sticky and so he said it's healthier to have it done so infection can't develop under the foreskin.

Before I met DH I had uncircumcised boyfriends. Although one was particular about his personal hygiene his penis sometimes had odour if he hadn't had chance to wash before lovemaking. Like when we had nowhere to have it except in the car after a night out. My first intimacy with DH was a shock and quite funny. I didn't really know anything about circumcision. It was in the dark and and I remember vainly searching for his foreskin! It was two or three dates afterwards before I had the courage to ask him about it and so I became educated.

When our first son was born I was the one who pushed for him to be circumcised. DH shrugged and said do what I thought best. He had no problems with being done but he did get teased slightly at school when they came back to live in England. He said he and his brother were the minority in the school showers although there were one or two others without foreskins.

Getting my first boy cut was quite difficult. My doctor was against it and my midwife really tried to talk me out of it. After I'd had him done I didn't mention it but when she undressed him at check up a week later she wasn't pleased. She lectured me all over again about how unnecessary it was and how permanently exposing the tip 'damages' it. I pointed out my DH wasn't 'damaged' and that ended the conversation. Needless to say I didn't see her much again after that but I have had other experiences of disapproval which I'll tell you about later as this post is rather long.

For now I'll just say don't be put off if you want it done.

Sam.

bumps

19-02-2007, 13:46

Great thread.
My husband and I had always figured that if we had a son he would be circumcised...not questions asked. However, now that we are pregnant with a son, the questions never stop. Although we're still pretty sure that we are going to every once in a while we are both filled with doubt.
I would probably feel a lot better if I knew a bit more about the doctor who was going to perform it. My Obstetrician recommended a dr. at the SAN (I'm in Sydney) but now nothing about him. For those of you who have had your DS' circumcised and had as a good as an experience as you can and are in the Sydney area could you tell me who performed it?

Thanks!

jkate

20-02-2007, 07:34

I have sent you a pm bumps, Hope it helps.:)

Samarinda

22-02-2007, 18:14

I feel sorry for moms who circumcise their sons for whatever reason and then start on a guilt trip and begin to regret it.

I'm the mother of two circumcised boys done without any regrets, but a few thoughts from "the other side" might help those who are struggling with this. (guilt over having circumcised).

It helped me that my happily circumcised at birth DH was willing to leave the choice to me. He had no "want it to look like him" issues (whereas I had!). I can sympathise with those who have been bullied into doing it, but don't feel bad because you gave in. Sometimes to concede is strength not weakness. A difference of opinion over this can go way out of proportion and if you saved acrimony agreeing to it you might well have saved your relationship. That has to be better long term for your son. Whether he's circumcised or not is not important compared to bringing him up in a loving home with two parents.

It might help to get used to the idea that what's done is done and move on. Focus on the good things to come. Your boy won't be hampered in achieving in this life because he doesn't have a foreskin.

Regret can last too long if we nurture it. Lots of times we say things because we feel justified and angry and maybe we seriously upset someone unintentionally. That realisation can pain us for years whenever we recall it. Words cannot be taken back any more than a circumcision can be undone. We may have the chance to apologise for them and that helps our hurt if accepted. You can decide to apologise to your son when the time comes to explain his circumcision to him. If you have brought him up with love he'll surely forgive you. For now, let it go.

As soon as I was pregnant I pretty much knew I was going to have my first son done, but I started to research it and found a lot on both sides. The medical profession is no more in agreement on circumcision than ordinary folk on the streets. The argument has been raging for centuries and the jury is still out. Looking for support for my opinion, I found plenty in favour it. I also discounted a lot of disagreeable stuff which I knew from my experience with a circumcised DH just wasn't true. He's happy, I'm happy, so chances are son and future DW will be.

If you are depressed about what you did, start researching all over again. There's a mass of material on the internet. Most of it is anti from people with an agenda, but if you look hard enough you'll find good articles from the other side. People who say there are no medical benefits are trying to tell you black is white. Comfort yourself from knowing that your son will never have foreskin retraction problems or suffer infections under it. And he'll never have to face the prospect of needing it done when he is older. If he is silly enough to ignore your advice to practice safe sex, it helps to know he is quite a bit less likely to become infected with or transmit STDs. Nor is he as likely to develop penile cancer or cause cervical cancer in his SO. What I'm saying is you've probably taken all the negative stuff on board, now set it aside and look for the positive.

I found three very supportive parental paperbacks during my research and I'll give details to anyone who wants to mail me.

Sam

kristi001

27-02-2007, 20:32

:wave: OK Dr Terry Russell he Does the PLastibell Method but does he do it at 6 months....

I have been told 6 months 8 months and 12 months. So im not actually sure???

I am from Sydney but he has been HIghly reccomended so we are going to fly up there and get it done.

Thanks :D

jkate

27-02-2007, 20:38

Kristi - I know a really good doctor in Sydney if you want me to pm the details?

kristi001

28-02-2007, 15:07

:wave: Thanx Jkat That would be Great.. :)

Icky78

02-03-2007, 08:19

rennie

02-03-2007, 10:05

Hi, I am just looking for anyone who might of had the same problem, my son had a plastibell put on last wednesday and it got infected, they then had to remove the plastibell after 7 days and finish the circ the old way, he has stitches there. Just wondering if this has happened to anyone else and how long it took to get better and was the result the same? The reason it got infected was because he is 3 1/2 and his penis was too big for the plastibell as a result of nocternal erections. I now know it is best to get them done 6m and under for the next one, but due to so many people sticking their noses in I felt guilty for a long time for wanting to get it done and kept putting it off. I am a bit disappointed in myself for not just going and doing it when I wanted to. Any help or advice appriciated.

jkate

02-03-2007, 12:53

Excellent thread girls :thumbsup: . Nice to be able to receive information and support without having
the emotionally charged personal opinions of others forced upon you, and being shot down in flames for having your own beliefs, opinions and knowledge.

Yes it is an important decision to make, and no it is not as clear cut as some like to make out - thanks girls and in particular jkat, for providing a resource that is refreshingly positive in nature .

Thanks Icky, and thanks to everyone who contributes :yelclap:

Hi, I am just looking for anyone who might of had the same problem, my son had a plastibell put on last wednesday and it got infected, they then had to remove the plastibell after 7 days and finish the circ the old way, he has stitches there. Just wondering if this has happened to anyone else and how long it took to get better and was the result the same? The reason it got infected was because he is 3 1/2 and his penis was too big for the plastibell as a result of nocternal erections. I now know it is best to get them done 6m and under for the next one, but due to so many people sticking their noses in I felt guilty for a long time for wanting to get it done and kept putting it off. I am a bit disappointed in myself for not just going and doing it when I wanted to. Any help or advice appriciated.

Rennie :hugs:, hope someone can help you. Is your DS on antibiotics to clear up the infection? The only advice I can give is if you are ever worried go and see the doctor who did the stitches or your local GP. I remember when I was worried with DS1 (14mths when done) I took him to the pediatrician who did circumcision, and he was so nice about it, even though there was nothing to worry about. Hope your little boy gets better soon, and everything is ok.:hugs:

Trumpet

02-03-2007, 13:20

Good on you Jkat for starting this thread. I must admit I get quite cranky at the other threads and when I am in a bad mood tend to enter into arguments or support thepoor soul that has been honest and game enough to post in the other ones. I have found that unless you agree with them or question them then you get ignored so from today I am not going to bother with the others.

I also just wanted to say that don't ever let someone guilt you into feeling you have done something wrong. We make choices for our children that we believe are the most beneficial to their long term well being and as mothers' we do have a right to make this choice.

Just so you know my son was done at 8wks old and I was in the next room getting his bottle ready and I was crying just as much as he was but when Dr Terrence came out he said that most of it was because he was being held down. As soon as he was put into my arms he stopped crying and I knew he was ok and we haven't looked back since.

Even though my main reason was because he was born with a sizable difference in his renal pelvis and circumcising reduced the chances of him getting painful UTI's, I still would have chosen to do it if he was born without any problems.

SalTheGal

02-03-2007, 18:51

Mr. Big

02-03-2007, 18:52

Great thread:smiliedance:

kristi001

06-03-2007, 20:38

Me too!! I have also given up.....was getting tired of justifying my actions for my son to others!!

I am so glad this thread is available for other bubhubbers, and that those of us who have chosen to circumcise our own sons can offer support to others thinking bout it!

Totally Agree thou i am one of those Brave or extreamy stupid ones who Just has to POst! :rolleyes:

shannysmum

06-03-2007, 22:07

yep me too! I was drilled big time and repeatedly. never new this was here. i feel like:banghead::banghead::banghead:. its all about human rights and the rest of it really. what a calm thread this is:)

it is right, i've been told, they mainly get upset because they are being held down, but it is quick. my bub went in asleep i heard him cry for a couple of minutes then he came out asleep. he healed within 3 maybe 4 days, i just kept pouring the betadine on to prevent infection and help it heal. I think my bub was 5 or 6 weeks when his was done, next time i'd have it booked and ready within the first week or two. it would be so much better if they did it straight up like they used to. when choosing a dr to do the procedure my gp just firmly recommended to make sure they do them on a very regular basis. i've heard of a fantastic one in melb if anyone there, just would have to get name.

elmar's_mummy22

14-03-2007, 14:30

Unfortunately I've kept it aside for too long and my lil angel is getting his done in May. He will be 18 months old by then. I'm a lil scared for him. He will have to go under local anaesthetic for the procedure. We're definitely doing it earlier if and when we have more boys. It is difficult enough to make the decision to do it and to be attacked for it as well by others is an unnecessary pain, I'm so glad I found this thread.

SalTheGal

14-03-2007, 14:53

Good luck Elmars mummy.........I am sure both you and your little man will come through it all fine. :hugs:

kristi001

25-03-2007, 08:55

:wave: Hey Guys

My 7yr old nephew has to be circumcised in a few weeks... :(

I feel really bad because he is going through alot of pain and i am kicking myself that i didnt get harrison done when he was first born!

I have been running around like a chiken with its head cut off trying to find someone that will do a 6 month old.. But most wont do it unless its medical!

Oh and my other nephew.. ( his younger brother) may have the same problem.. he is 3 1/2.. Poor little mites!

So with them Luck Guys!:fingerscrossed:

~rambox~

25-03-2007, 08:58

:hugs: Good luck to your nephews :fingerscrossed:

jkate

25-03-2007, 09:09

:hugs: Hugs for your nephews....Are you in Sydney? I know and a great dr there. You might have to wait till 12 mths though. Pm me if you want the details.

Trumpet

25-03-2007, 09:21

Goodluck elmar's_mummy22 I hope all goes well and the same for your nephew kristi001.

:hugs:

kristi001

25-03-2007, 09:25

Thanks Guys :)

I know they are going to be fine..

Being the loving Aunty that i am... :p I just hate to think they are in any pain!

OJandMe

25-03-2007, 09:51

OOh. Great thread!!

Well we've just found out that we're having another BOY:thumbsup: so that will mean another cicumcision for our growing family. Thankfully I found a great doctor with the boys, so we'll go back to him... and I know the ropes having done it twice, so none of the anxiety I had with the boys:D

SalTheGal

03-05-2007, 08:11

Just bumping this up so that it can be viewed by those looking for an unbiased (and unattacked) positive opinion on circ'ing:thumbsup:

secondtimearound2

03-05-2007, 08:16

Good work :thumbsup:

dreamer80

03-05-2007, 09:29

Love seeing a supported thread about circumcision…:yelclap: We are planning on having our son circumcisied when he is born!:yes:

SalTheGal

03-05-2007, 09:53

dreamer80

03-05-2007, 10:08

Yeah we tend to get drowned out by all the anti circ bubhubbers.

This is a thread that people can ask q's and get the "other" side of the opinions.........it is a waste of time responding to a circ q's in general threads!

Oh yes, I found that out the hard way the other day...I got attaked:(

Did alot of you who choose to Circ was you DP or DH circ as well??:confused:

My DH was done at birth, and that personally was a major ressons as to why, I want it...

SalTheGal

03-05-2007, 10:15

My DH was, as were my brothers, and my nephews.

SO I guess this made me more comfortable with the idea, however I know of several guys who had to have circ's due to medical reasons in late teen years, and some as children and I wouldn't wish that pain and suffering upon anyone.

My mum also worked in aged care and the amount of infections she had to deal with in elderly men who were not circ'ed was disturbing.

I know the arugment gets shot down time and time again but I choose prevention.:yes:

mom2jake

04-05-2007, 17:55

Thank god I found this thread...I've been to scared to mention the fact that if we have a son we will be getting him circumcised:yes:

I have 3months to go til bubs is born..At what stage would you start inquiring about circumcision with our dr?

hayleylea

04-05-2007, 18:00

I didnt look into until DS was born - I think most docs will do it up to the age of 5 weeks so its good to get in early :D

:smiliedance: for this thread. Nice to have a positive spin on things for once!

dreamer80

04-05-2007, 18:21

I asked my Dr about getting our son done before we leave the hospital, and he has recommend a Dr who has lots of experience in doing circumcisions. We have a meeting with him in about 10 weeks, to discuss things and go through the procedure with us.

mom2jake

04-05-2007, 18:29

Thanks girls...
I have OB appointment on Tuesday, so will inquire then:thumbsup:

It's good to be able to talk about it...YAY for this thread:yelclap:

dreamer80

04-05-2007, 18:33

Also something to ask about is a Dr that uses the plastic circumcision device.

Check out for info on the product: russelmedical.com.au

mom2jake

04-05-2007, 18:54

Also something to ask about is a Dr that uses the plastic circumcision device.

Check out for info on the product: russelmedical.com.au

Thankyou for that, Df and I just checked out the site and we're very interested, I'm sure someone in Sydney would do this procedure?

SalTheGal

04-05-2007, 19:03

Most do this procedure these days. We went through a local uroligist down here, he was fantastic.

Just be aware that many OB's/GP's will push onto you their own beliefs........it happened to us in the hossie, we got an ob who was very reluctant to give us the name of someone!!! If you have q's or concerns, ask them of someone who does the procedure so you can get informed answers...... our uroligist gave us all the facts, both for and against and let us make our own decision, he was never pushy and we felt very comfortable with him.

Good luck!

Trumpet

04-05-2007, 19:26

Also something to ask about is a Dr that uses the plastic circumcision device.

Check out for info on the product: russelmedical.com.au

My son was done by him and he was fantastic.

Trumpet

04-05-2007, 19:28

Thankyou for that, Df and I just checked out the site and we're very interested, I'm sure someone in Sydney would do this procedure?

If you check out that website I think you will find he has an office in sydney.

Kizmet

10-05-2007, 14:22

I just found this thread! :smiliedance: :smiliedance:

We dont know what we're having at the moment but if it is a boy we will be circumcising him. I want to get it done as soon as possible after his birth to limit the pain after. Should I look around now? well after I find out the sex of course :p

Our reasons:
*Easier for him to clean and keep hygenic meaning less chance of infections
*Prevention is better than a cure
*It is a family tradition on my DH's side and whilst he would support whatever decision we make ie to circ or not to circ we both ideally would like to have him circed.

I have been reading up about the plastibell method and it looks really good!

Can i just ask, how long after your sons had their circ were they completely healed? What type of special treatment did you need to give that area afterwards?

Thanks for this thread its brilliant :D

Kizmet

10-05-2007, 14:28

Just spoken to a close friend of mine who has booked in to see the doctor who will do her sons circumcision in july. She said that he only does them under general anaesthetic as bubs will be 12 months when it gets done. She is a bit worried as she has heard there are risks with doing it under general at such a young age. Is anyone able to shed some light on this for us? ie. what the risks are and if it is something she should be worried about?

She's in Sydney and her son is 8 months at the moment is it too late for local?

SalTheGal

10-05-2007, 16:37

I am not expert on the topic, however.......

From my research if you are going to circ then you can either get it done very early (ie, usually before 8wks of age), this is done with a local anaesthetic gel applied to the area

Otherwise you need to wait unti lthey are over 12mnths to get a general.

Personally we had our son done when he was 3wks, the procedure was very quick, he slept through the whole thing (I was right next door and could hear everything- didn't hear a peep from him, went in sleeping and came out sleeping:yes: )

I was told it can be a lot more traumatic at an older age.

Also it took about a little over a week for it to heal completely.........and if you have a boy be prepared for a shock when you take off his nappy for the first time afterwards, I think I suffered more from how it looked than he did from how it felt!!!!

Good luck with your pregnancy and enjoy your little bubba!!!:)

becsbub

10-05-2007, 19:26

I had my DS circumcised at 4 weeks old. He also went in sleeping and the only thing that really seemed to bother him was that he was hungry so the doctor allowed me to sit in the room and feed him for as long as I needed.

I was not allowed in the room with him when they were doing the procedure and I was a little apprehensive about that but I really think it was for the best not only for me but for my son. It literally only took about 10 minutes. Then after a week he was fully healed.

For anyone thinking about getting it done you should really check out this website www.russellmedical.com.au (http://www.russellmedical.com.au). Although they are in Brisbane it is still a really informative website.

hayleylea

10-05-2007, 19:36

becsbub - i actually went in with my DS while he got it done. I think this option varies alot with different doctors. I had a choice whether to go in or not and I choose to stay as did DF. Like you said though the only real problem was my son was hungry - he barely cried while getting it done just sucked on my finger, I didnt look at the what the doctor was going i just stayed focused on DS. 10 minutes later (if that) i had him in my arms feeding him. We had to stay at the surgery for 1hr just to keep an eye on the bleeding and then we were allowed home. :D No real dramas after the op either...about a week the bandaged fell off..but everything was fine.

Thanks for the website too it will really help people with their decsion!

Did i mention i love this thread~?:thumbsup:

jkate

10-05-2007, 19:47

Kizmet - I had DS1 done when he was 14 mths, he had a general anaesthetic . We did have any problems with healing, and he was up walking around wanting something to eat not long after. DS2 was done with the plastibell and was about 5 weeks old. Back on page 1, I have gone into more detail.

Who is your close friend going to? If its the same doctor DS1 one went to he is lovely and did a great job!!! The reason DS2 didn't go to him, was because we moved!!

HTH's

kristi001

11-05-2007, 11:11

Hey Ladies...

Well We Have Made the Appointment. :yelclap:

Just a Conseltation thou.... They Will Book The actually circumcision from there!!

On the 9th Of July!!!

I Am Very nervous About it!! :o

I think I need a Little bit Of Reasurance here Ladies!!!

I Know we are Doing the right thing but Gawd I am Freaking out about it... :(

Ok Cheers Ladies i will Let You know How it went!

Oh Jkat... Its with the same Doctor You went to!!

jkate

11-05-2007, 15:35

kristi - if you believe you are doing the right thing then go ahead!! Every parent believes in something different when it comes to circumcision.

You are going to a wonderful doctor, even about a week after the procedure with Aden I was worried about something (I can't even remember what now :o), but the doctor saw me the same day I rang him and was so understanding.

:hugs:

jlrjyeboah

17-05-2007, 14:27

I am in Melbourne and was wondering if anyone knew any doctors here who use the plastibell method. So far I have only come across doctors who use general anesthetic and I am not too keen on that.

kristi001

25-05-2007, 09:25

Do you (yes, just us, the "procircs") believe it is so bad to want DS done just because his dad is? This is our main reason and I am so sick to death of justifying myself to people on here.

No darling I Dont Belive There is anything wrong with feeling that way! :hugs:

That Is one of Our Big Reasons too... :yes:

I Just Dont feel the need to Justify Myself anymore!

So If anyone asks i Just say its My Choce and its been made and I dont Wont to go anymore ino that subject :D

Kizmet

25-05-2007, 09:35

we are having ds done (he is 3) in a month.
We wanted it done when he was little but we were in a country town and no one would do it.

I have a question for you all!!
Do you (yes, just us, the "procircs") believe it is so bad to want DS done just because his dad is? This is our main reason and I am so sick to death of justifying myself to people on here.

dont bother about justifying yourself hun. Your reasons are yours alone dont let anyone make you feel bad about doing it for your reasons :thumbsup:

SalTheGal

25-05-2007, 10:02

Hey fellow pro circers.......I am asking for your help with a little bit of net research!

Often when anti circ posts are made they suggest the person do a bit of research- in particular watch a video of a circumcision being performed. Which is fine- nothing against people doing research.

HOWEVER- after doing some of my own research I have not been able to find any video footage of the Plastibell method- only the older style circumcision (which TBH I wouldn't go near).:no:

So I was wondering if any of you have ever found video of plastibell? Or maybe know where might be a good place to look.

I htink it would be great if we could offer a link to this type of procedure so that people can get accurate information.

Thanks in advance!:)

Ange&Seth

25-05-2007, 10:08

WeloveHarriet

08-06-2007, 13:43

Hi Bub-Hubbers, we have our consultation booked for two weeks time and then if we are going ahead with DS's procedure it would be done two weeks later.

DH and I were always pro-circumcision but I must say looking at the "warning" literature from the doctors it has shaken me a little. Not against the procedure but only from the perspective of pain afterwards.

So I suppose I am really after reassurance that my darling baby is not going to suffer horrendous amounts of pain and be in agony. The operation is done at our private hospital and is a plastibell operation. Our doctor uses Emla and then a local anaesethic during the operation.

Thanks for any advice you can offer.

jlrjyeboah

08-06-2007, 15:32

My son was done when he was 3 weeks old using the plastibell method. His dad went in with him, and said he whimpered a little during the initial insertion of the plastibell, but went back to sleep straight after. When he came back to me, he was perfectly fine, he didn't seem to be in any pain or discomfort. Even in the days after, he was fine, after about 4 days the plastibell fell off by itself, and he didn't react to that either. Both DH and I were extremely happy with how the whole thing went.

Ange&Seth

13-06-2007, 10:16

Weloveharriet - My boy didn't seem to be in any pain whatsoever. I was with him while the procedure was done (by plastibell also) and he cried when his nappy was removed (he was 5wks old) and stopped when it was put back on. He used to cry everytime his nappy was removed, so it was no different this time.

Good luck with your decision :thumbsup:

Lolo

05-07-2007, 00:10

Hi guys,
I wrote at the beginning of this thread, and now am in Australia. I am 7 mths pregnant and have another boy on the way :smiliedance:
We would like to get him circumcised, like his brother, shortly after birth. Is this possible? Can they do it while I am still in hospital (this is what happened when Chris was born; my obs did the procedure with no probs)?
Sorry if this was discussed elsewhere.
Thanks for the support guys.

jkate

05-07-2007, 06:22

Hi Lolo

Welcome to Australia :). From what I have heard not many (if any) ob's will do it while your in hospital, and that is done by a pediatrician after you go home. Where abouts are you living? Someone may be able to refer you to a good doctor.

All the best for the rest of your pregnancy.

jacks mum

05-07-2007, 19:51

we've just had our 2nd son done and couldn't be happier. It had no effect on him what so ever.

Kizmet

06-07-2007, 06:00

i'm having a boy so will be looking around to get him circ'd asap after the birth. I think they do it 3-6 weeks after is that right? is that the soonest you can get it done?

WeloveHarriet

06-07-2007, 08:08

Our son was 4wks and 1 day old when he was done (two weeks ago today). We were lucky we had an counselling appt with the doctor on the Tuesday and when we decided to proceed he could fit us in the same week on the Friday.

Maybe phone around and see if you can book your counselling / initial appointment with the Doctor even prior to having your bub.

WizzFizz

12-07-2007, 11:20

Kizmet - I had my little boy done by Anthoney Dilley (the saying goes.."Dr Dilley for the willy!") and he was really great. He consoled Thomas after he was finished, gave him cuddles and made sure my husband was ok whilst he was in there with him (I would have been too but I was getting operated on myself - gallbladder!!)

I would highly reccommend. He did a great job, my bub has a good looking little doodle if I do say so myself!

Kangaskippy

14-07-2007, 13:42

We had Jack done at 6wks...I was told this was the latest that they would do him, otherwise he had to wait till he was over 1...(it just took me a while to find a dr to do it otherwise I would have had it done earlier)

Due to my son being Chubby we did have a bit of a problem with his "Fat pad" around his Penis being so chubby that the Penis went back in close to the bone, which made it difficult to heal properly...not that this was a problem...just took a bit longer than normal...I took him back to the same dr 2 times to get this checked and the last time due to bub losing a bit of the chubbiness, it has now fully healed properly with no problems..

Just thought I would share (as I didn't know that this could happen)...I am glad to finally find a thread that doesn't judge me harshly for what is mine and my husbands decision only...

Well done to the originator of this discussion..thank you.:yes:

Kizmet

31-07-2007, 09:48

kanga skippy was the procedure a lot more difficult for your son? Thanks for bringing it to our attention that that could potentially be an issue to be honest I had no idea! and I totally agree it is great for a thread like this to be going so smoothly! Love to have a place of no judgement!!

SAHM's who had their sons done and already had another child how did you go the week after the procedure? My DH and I are talking now about whether he should take the week off work after DS (when born) is circed. We will have a 21 month old so im just a bit weary about how I will go with the two little ones if DS needs lots of extra attention. Basically am now just stressing about how i will go with two children under two circ or no circ :laughing: bit late to stress now i know!

DH can only take about a week and a half off after DS is born so we were tossing up whether it is better for him to take that time straight after DS is born or after the circumcision. Can you let me know your experiences please? I am such a worry wart! :laughing:

Kizmet

31-07-2007, 11:08

very true, DS will be done before he is 6 weeks old and DD will be 21 months at the time just thought I would add that as I left it out originally

rennie

31-07-2007, 11:26

If there is anyone areound Echuca Vic area needing the name of a doc that circs PM me.

Maybe we should try and get some kind of directory happening and PM people who want names of docs in their local areas. Does that make sense? :confused:

Ange&Seth

31-07-2007, 11:39

Hey Rennie :wave:

I think that's a good idea, maybe you could PM Hilary or a mod about getting it set up?

Otherwise there is a member called circangel who has a thread around here somewhere - if people PM him he will provide names of doctors in their area who will perform circ's. He's not necessarily recommending these doctors - just providing their details as they do perform the procedure. It's up to each individual person to do their own research on each doctor.

:thumbsup:

Kangaskippy

31-07-2007, 12:57

BaDaBing

31-07-2007, 13:21

Freya

31-07-2007, 15:28

hello does anyone know of any places that do circumcision on the gold coast?

viperpt

31-07-2007, 21:12

My DS was circumcised when he was a few weeks old. It was simply painless and he had no complications. There was no question in my mind about getting him done.

viperpt

31-07-2007, 21:13

hello does anyone know of any places that do circumcision on the gold coast?

there is a really good place in Macgregor not to far from Goldie thats where we got our sone done. He is very good and has been there for years. If you PM me I can give you his details.

Ange&Seth

31-07-2007, 22:07

hello does anyone know of any places that do circumcision on the gold coast?

You could PM 'circangel' and get the names of doctors in your area :thumbsup:

~Candy~

01-08-2007, 08:38

Hi girls, I am new to this thread.

I have been wanting to post on this topic for awhile.

We had DS1 done with no probs and then when DS2 was born we also had him done but the doc didn't take enough skin off. Most ppl don't even realised he is done. I feel inclined to leave it this way but DH is really at me to make an appt to have it done again as it gets red and looks a bit sore.

DS2 is so sooky and he is such a mummys boy, I can't bare the thought of him having to go under a general to have it finished. I just don't know what to do as I don't want my boys to look different but :confused: .

xo

Hi :),

I have both my boys done...1st son was fine, no probs at all, but with ds#2...like you said, he didn't look the same as his brother and I thought the dr didn't take enough skin off...he'd also get a bit red every now and then. Well....I took him back to the dr who done him, and basically what had happened was...ds got chubby real fast just after his circ which caused a "fat pad" or "puppy fat" and that made his penis go in (inverted), everytime I changed his nappy I'd push down and it pops out easily (and Corey laugh's..lol, doesn't hurt him at all as it's what you are supposed to do), but I didn't do it "good" enough and the skin stuck to the head so only half the head was exposed and not the rim (iykwim). When I took him back to the dr, he simply pulled the skin back and exposed it all and it look "right" again. There was some smegma building up which is why he got a bit red every now and then. It was red that night....I had to bathe it twice a day and make sure the skin was dry before I put his nappy back on. It's been 1 week now since I took him back to the dr and everything is looking great :thumbsup: I too, was sooo worried he'd have to meet the scaple or something horrible like that!

secondtimearound2

06-08-2007, 17:39

I founds some info for us ladies.

http://www.circinfo.com/benefits/bmc.html

http://www.circinfo.com/parents_guide/gfp.html

workin'mumof2

07-08-2007, 15:12

Hello there, i got my DS done just after 6months because we went sure of a doc close who did it b4 that time. He had it done under general and was fine after, if we have another boy we have found a place on the coast which uses the platic bell technique so could get it done very soon after birth making it less travling time going to brissy as thats were we ended up. however does anyone know if it would look different to one done under general. not that it matters but incase the 2 boys (if i did have 2 boys) were to compare when they were older. Sorry if this seams like a silly question too

secondtimearound2

12-08-2007, 15:56

*bump*

blairsmum

13-08-2007, 23:30

My 11 week old was circumcised at 4 weeks using the plastibell method in Brisbane. I received a lot of negative comments starting from midwives at the Mater hospital who made comments such as 'Now, you're not going to get him circumcised now are you'.

My husband and I did all the research and basically the literature shows that there are more positives than negatives. I have also had a close friend who had to be done at age 25 who has a bad scar and is quite embarassed. My baby didn't feel a thing with the use of the numbing cream and I think it is important to note that nowadays there is no cutting.

I can honestly say that he displayed absolutely no signs of discomfort. I am definitely all for it (I definitely felt guilt etc at the time) and woul have another child done. Also, the literature shows that about 50% of boys in Brisbane are getting done. I'm all for choice and have lots of friends on both sides of the fence. All you can do is do your own research and talk about it to as many people as you can on both sides.

circangel

29-08-2007, 18:10

Does anyone know of a Dr or Dr's in Tasmania that perform circumcisions?

kristi001

30-08-2007, 22:24

Well We have Decided That we are Going to wait till we have this baby incase its another Lil Boy so we Can get them Both Done at The Same time.

Two Birds with One stone Kind of thing!

We are Going to have it done at Liverpool Private Hospital which is Great Cause its Not too Far away from us!

Ange&Seth

31-08-2007, 00:52

Does anyone know of a Dr or Dr's in Tasmania that perform circumcisions?

Apparently there is a Dr Russell on the NW coast,though I am not entirely sure I got his name right

talia11

31-08-2007, 17:16

Great post guys - and I especially love BobtheBuilders response _ it was really starting to annoy me the way some anti-c hubbers attck the pro's - I think that he is right in saying alot of it has to do with emotions and not the facts - after the Current Affair report hubby and I discussed it - he is adamant we will be doing our son (when/if we have one) - he is done and DSS is too....great posting guys....

Proudmom

31-08-2007, 20:40

hey! New to bubhub and really support circumcision. :thumbsup:

But I was just wondering if anyone knows any places in brisbane that performt besides in Mt Gravatt. I went to a DR that told me that my son is too old to have it done the plastibell method, but I just read Dr Terry Russell's website and he said that he does newborns to 12 year olds. My son is two in a month, but I went about 6 months ago and the DR that bulkbilled said he couldnt do it. I dont think that he really supported our decision and I didnt think he gave us any option or references or anything.

but, I would appreciate any help anyone can give me. thanks. ;)

IAdoreYou

01-09-2007, 21:24

Excellent thread :thumbsup:
If I'm blessed with a son next, which I'm pretty sure I will be, it will be no questions
asked, Dh and I are getting him done very early. Thankyou for the Qld site also, Terry Russell looks good, now we just need to get pregnant again and have BLUE!! ;)

Kangaskippy

04-09-2007, 14:25

Apparently there is a Dr Russell on the NW coast,though I am not entirely sure I got his name right

I had Dr Terry Russell do my son and he was wonderful...

AliyahBlake

05-09-2007, 13:06

Hi all! I'm expecting my little boy in November, and DH and I are planning on getting him circumcised - I have done research on it, plus am a nurse myself and have seen these procedures done, so I know what I'm getting into! I have pm'd Circangel who was very helpful in giving me some names of surgeons in Sydney who still do the procedure. We have heard that Dr Dilley in Randwick is very good - has anyone here had any experiences with him? Feel free to PM me if you'd rather discuss it that way. Thanks!

sueliz

05-09-2007, 13:13

While we chose not to circ our DS, I just wanted to pop my head in a give a big :thumbsup: for this thread. (I hope no one minds) It is so clear how often you must get attacked or looked down upon for your decisions and it must be reassuring to have a place to come to for support, advice and important information.

Kizmet

05-09-2007, 14:32

Great post Sueliz!! thanks for the support! :thumbsup:

Aliyahsmum welcome :wave: We will be getting our son done by a doc we were referred to by a friend. He is in Campbelltown. Not sure exactly where in Syd you are but if you want the details I am happy to pm you:thumbsup:

nemosmum

05-09-2007, 14:38

Ange&Seth

05-09-2007, 14:39

xkwzit

05-09-2007, 19:59

Dear TJ

Sometimes it does take the mods some time to get around to cleaning out off topic posts, but it does happen...just not instantly. We aren't on here all the time to take action immediately, but eventually we get around to keeping all threads on track. :thumbsup: (or try to :p)

Cheers

circangel

06-09-2007, 00:25

Considering this is a support site for circumcision anyone is welcome to contact me if they need contacts to perform the procedure almost no mater where you are.

secondtimearound2

12-09-2007, 14:58

Woohoo how good is this section now :yelclap:

Thanks BubHub and Mods.

Ange&Seth

12-09-2007, 15:04

Yeah it's nice to have somewhere to go without being attacked isn't it :D

Thanks Mods :thumbsup:

Kizmet

12-09-2007, 15:07

i didnt notice we had a section! woohoo!!!:smiliedance: :smiliedance:

mom2jake

12-09-2007, 15:09

mum2derekandmia

12-09-2007, 17:27

We got our boy done at 4 months. Our Doctor encouaged earlier rather than later. I think at 6-12 months little boys are more penile aware and would be more inclined to touch after the procedure. The procedure is distressing for U and Bub but it is painless. The only pain our little boy felt was after the procedure and it was the first few wee's after the local wore off on the first day. I think I would approach your doc about your concerns of waiting too long. I do know they like them to be a good weight, to help come with any side effects that mite be experienced from local. I hope all goes well for you.

Freya

12-09-2007, 17:32

I know this may sound very silly BUT I have decided that I will book into Dr Terry Russel, however I do not have a referral does this matter?

And do I just ring and book? Or go there? I am confused

BabyLs

12-09-2007, 18:21

I know this may sound very silly BUT I have decided that I will book into Dr Terry Russel, however I do not have a referral does this matter?

And do I just ring and book? Or go there? I am confused
My friend rang and made an appointment over the phone, no referral. There was an initial consultation where everything was discussed and then the appointment for the proceedure then a follow up.

SalTheGal

12-09-2007, 18:33

Hi Guys:wave:

Our little man was born almost 4 weeks ago and hubby and I are getting him circed:yes:
We spoke to our doc about it and she has talked us out of doing it until he is 6-12 months...I've read up on some of your posts and it seems to be done in the first few months...

Has anyone else done between 6-12months and were you happy with your decision?

Any positive feedback is very welcome...Thanks x

Hi Kelly, we got our son done when he was about 6wks old so I can't give you any feedback on the ages you mention, sorry!

However I would recommend actually going to speak to a specialist about your options now- as a GP may not necessarily have the most correct information....we went for an initial consultation with the specialist and asked him all our questions- he was very helpful and definitely knew much more than the GP!

Good luck. :hugs:

workin'mumof2

12-09-2007, 18:37

We got it done at just over 6months and yes we found it a bit hard as when he did accedently touch his penis he would cry so we had to stop him and distract him and as soon as it was healed he was ok. Even though we know what we went through we will still wait till about the 6 month mark.

workin'mumof2

12-09-2007, 18:46

I rang Dr Terry Russel, ellefraya and they dont need a referal. u have to ring and make an appointment though

Freya

12-09-2007, 18:48

Thanks, I will call him first thing in the morning.:thumbsup:

mum2derekandmia

09-10-2007, 16:25

This is great. No more feeling like a bad parent for doing something you believe should be done. Thanks. I recently waded into a debate on the general circ thread. The reply I got back walked a dangerously fine line between giving me their opinion and insulting my parenting skills and inteligence. I stated it was a general FYI comment and recieved a sledging. all the way :thumbsup: from me.

EsSjAy

18-10-2007, 12:19

Ange&Seth

18-10-2007, 12:27

Eventhough I have had my son circumcised, there isn't any real medical reason TO have it done. Your opinion should count, yes, but so should DPs.

You stated that the reason you had the first 3 boys done was so that they were like their dad, so shouldn't this boy be like his dad too?

SalTheGal

18-10-2007, 12:36

Here's my dilemma....

My three eldest sons from my first marriage were circumcised at 12 months... The reasoning was that their dad was circumcised as the men in my family were and personally we thought it was cleaner and less likely of infections later (our opinion)...
Hubby to be and I have had our first son who is 4 months DF is not circumcised or is his son from a previous marriage... I really want ds to be circumcised however DF is absolutely against it and can not find one good reason for it...
I understand that because he's not circumcised he feels his sons should be the same just as my ex wanted his sons the same as him, but what should it really boil down to.... Should my opinion count?
Am i wrong to be annoyed?

:banghead:

Yeah thats a tricky one- my thoughts would be that your youngest DS would be more inclined to wonder why he is different to his brothers that different to his father IYKWIM? So if you want him to feel 'the same' then I would think getting him done to be like his brothers would make more sense.

However, it really needs to be a mutual decision, so if your partner is dead against it then I think his feelings would probably prevail as there is no medical reason for him to be done in this instance.

Hmmm- tough one! Good luck.

suemp

18-10-2007, 13:18

i didnt do my boys. not because im against it. i just couldnt be bothered. its a bit of a stuff around where im from but if it were back in the day wen they did boys at birth id prob say yeah take it off lol.
i just wanted to say in regard to getting it done to avoid being different to dad/brothers, i dont really think this is an issue. as i said my boys arent done and daddy is and my 6 yr old has never brought it up. also dp is dark skinned from being islander and ds's inherited my very white skin. this is plainly obvious and even that has never been brought up by my 6 yr old. my dp could have 10 heads and ds1 wouldnt care that he was different to him as he's his dad and he loves him. its easy to explain not everyones the same

EsSjAy

18-10-2007, 14:40

Yeah thats a tricky one- my thoughts would be that your youngest DS would be more inclined to wonder why he is different to his brothers that different to his father IYKWIM? So if you want him to feel 'the same' then I would think getting him done to be like his brothers would make more sense.

This was my thinking as well but after thinking more about it, this will never be a mutual decision because i think daddy has more pull on this topic...:laughing:...
I aint' winnin' this one....

Thanks for your replies.... They're appreciated!!!

x x:wave:

SweetAngels

20-10-2007, 18:44

Hi there ladies, I am neither against or for Circ, but would love to offer you ladies and your families my surpport!!

I love that you have a thread to open up in!! And I think you are all brave and wonderful woman for choosing to parent your way :hugs:

kat82

09-02-2008, 15:52

Ange&Seth

12-02-2008, 08:30

Hi kat,

I'm not sure any of us can comment on the pain factor because none of us have had the procedure performed on ourselves, but I can tell you that my boy was given pain relief - panadol orally and emla numbing agent direct to the site. He never cried while pee'ing afterwards and directly after the procedure he wasn't screaming, just had a hungry cry as he was due for a feed, and he calmed as soon as he started feeding.

Just please don't let the vehement anti-circer's on this site make you feel bad about the decision - ultimately it's a decision that you and your husband need to be happy with and eventually your son as well.

I'm not pro-circ or anti-circ, I just believe that we're all doing what we feel is best for our kids and that that should be respected. I never realised how controversial the topic was before I joined Bubhub.

I will say this though - the procedure isn't medically necessary in most cases and and uncirc'd penis takes no more effort in cleaning until the child is around 3-4 years I think because before this age the foreskin doesn't retract and so can't really get 'dirty'. I would urge you to do research on both circing and not circing so that you don't get overwhelmed by the opinions expressed on this forum.

Good luck chic :thumbsup:

AliyahBlake

23-02-2008, 15:45

I really don't want it done, (the pain). i'm due in june but hubby wants it done. So he'll get his way. he said that he did't get his son done now 15 and he had a really hard time keeping it clean. So he said he would't not get it done this time. So our boy if bubs is a boy will be getting done. How much pain is there? I was told its hard to get a dr that will do it
I personally don't think pain is an issue - my 3 month old DS was circed about a month ago, and I expected him to scream while it was being done. All that happened was that he winced slightly when the local anaesthetic was given, then he smiled and gurgled at the nurse the whole time it was being done! I kept the panadol up to him for 24 hrs afterwards (even though he didn't really look like he had pain), then he was fine.:thumbsup: There aren't too many doctors that do it, but try sending a PM to Circangel (who has a list of doctors who perform them).

delirium

27-02-2008, 07:46

I really don't want it done, (the pain). I'm due in june but hubby wants it done. So he'll get his way. he said that he did't get his son done now 15 and he had a really hard time keeping it clean. So he said he would't not get it done this time. So our boy if bubs is a boy will be getting done. How much pain is there? I was told its hard to get a dr that will do it

Our boy had a numbing cream then a local. I've heard it argued that they feel pain from the local, but if you use cream, they probably won't feel the needle.

As for not wanting to get it done - then maybe you shouldn't. Clearly I'm pro circ but if you feel strongly about not getting it done, maybe you should push this with your DH.

I didn't find it difficult find a dr to do it, but I live out bush. Statistically circs are more common in rural areas. All I can tell you pain wise, is that with the local and the ring (or Plastibell which is the most common method) that it's much more humane than how they did it when my DH was born. They used no anesthetic and used stitches. :(

Good luck with coming to a decision you feel comfortable with.

petalbum

02-03-2008, 10:32

Hi,

We found out Monday that we are having a boy :smiliedance:and straight away my DH was on the net doing research into Circ. Once he had read the procedure he was a bit unsure on whether we should have our son done as it looked very painful.:confused: I asked him the question "if he could remember being done?" of course his answer was no.:no: So we have decided that yes we will be having our son done.

SalTheGal

02-03-2008, 11:03

hi petalbum (cute username!) welcome to bubhub! Good luck with your baby, and good luck with your choice to circ....glad to hear that your hubby is doing his research, just make sure he is looking at the plastibell method- not the traditionally cutting method- it is harder to find plastibell info on the net- alot of the images are from the old way of doing a circ.

my_lot

02-03-2008, 14:48

hi petal bum- everyone i know whos had their son/s circd using plastibell method were very happy with their choice and the healing.

My cousin had her premmie twins circd at 6 weeks and they healed very quickly and were not distressed afterwards.

good luck with your pregnancy and new bubby.

3kiddies

09-03-2008, 12:08

I have 2 boys and both are circ'd. We always knew we would circ them and both times we did it was done in hospital. The boys were born in America and you decide in hospital and it is done before you leave, so before they are a week old. Both times they didnt cry when it was done and other than giving them panadol for a couple of hours there was no pain for them. I have never regretted it.

BellyBean

10-03-2008, 07:53

I have not read through all the posts in this thread only because there are so many lol. I have two boys and they are both circumcised. I think personly it is cleaner and more hygenic. Seeing my boys in pain for the first few days after having it done was horrible, but now i would not take it back for the world as i know me as a mother will not have any probs with there genital health. My dp is circumsised, only because when he was a baby they had probs with his foreskin, so getting our two boys done was a must anyway just in case anything was to happen to theirs. So here i am, very Pro- Circumcision :).

StellasMummy

24-03-2008, 20:45

I just want to say, its so great to have a thread where parents and parents to be can come here and get non judgemental advice before deciding their decisions whether or not to have their sons circumcised.
I have experienced some horrible responses to this topic and its just lovely to be able to come here and freely express how we feel without being judged.

SalTheGal

25-03-2008, 11:04

HI! Yep it is a bit hard for other bubhubbers to get unbaised advice from "the other side" regarding Circumcision...I don't think any one of us here would try to convince anyone to get their child circ'ed (unlike the gungho attitudes of the non-circers who can be very very forceful with their opinions), however it is nice that people have somewhere "safe" to come when they are looking for advice and support once they have made that decision.

ennenna

05-04-2008, 22:28

hi everyone

just want to say that we had our circd at 5wks using the plastibell method and were very happy and surprised that he didn't seem to be in any pain even hours after the surgery.
they don't let you feed the baby a couple of hours before the procedure, so he cried a little bit afterwards, and was fast asleep after a feed.
for us it was for cultural, hygienic as well as religious reasons. and we have absolutely no regrets. I think it is wise to inform yourself as much as possible before making a decision, that way you won't feel guilty for having or even not having it done.

fito05

17-11-2008, 11:58

Could you please forward who in newcastle used for the circumcision. I am trying to find someone in the area and I am having no luck. Like you i can only find people who will do up to 6 weeks of age and he is now going on to 10 weeks. Please help me with this
Ok, I will start.....

Both DH and I decided before we had children that any sons would be circumsised. In both our familys any male that had not be done, had then health problems some when they were a child others when they were older. I am a big believer in prevention is better then cure in some cases (and this is definitely one). I also suffer from recurring uti's, and I wouldn't want any of my children to go through pain similar to this.

With DS1 we waited till he was 14mths, because at the time we were advised by our local doctor that the ped perfer if the children were over 1 year of age. We did find out later, that he would and could do the procedure for babies under 6 weeks.

When DS2 was born we had moved to a new area, the doctor I saw to get a referral was not very helpful, I had to ring around surgeons to ask if they do circumcision for non health reasons. Thankfully my SIL knew someone in Newcastle that does only circumcision using the bell method. He was wonderful, and if we are to have another son I will definitely be going back to him.

Well that's my story, I do hope this thread stays positive. I know it is a emotional topic, and that everyone has there own strong views.

kamb1403

20-11-2008, 20:57

We have had our 4th son circumcised last week. All went well and he was fine afterwards.

I think it is wonderful that there is a place to talk with other mums that have had their sons circumcised. I am very careful who I speak to about it due to criticsm and comments that have been made towards me.

Samarinda

20-11-2008, 22:14

I'm so glad that a few of us are still doing what we know is best for our boys. It is really ridiculous that we can't even discuss this with our family and friends without them raising eyebrows. My mother was horrified when she changed her grandson - even though he was completely healed and looked fine by the time she did. My son and two other little boys who'd been cut were also a subject of negative discussion at our playgroup. One or two did come up to me privately afterwards and say they wished they'd had it done.

kamb1403

21-11-2008, 07:54

One of my husband's work collegues has made comments about us having Cameron done. My husband responded that he was done as a baby and dosen't remember it being done.

It makes me wonder what the people against circumcision think of their parents and grandparents especially since in their days boys were circumcised before they left the hospital.

twinkleprincess

21-11-2008, 16:10

Hi Everyone,

I have decided to post in pro thread as i did not want the negative opinions of others in any other thread, i read through your entire post start to finish and was really pleased everyone could give there side of the story....

My dilemma is we are having a boy DD 31/12/08

DP is circed. I have always preferred circed and thought we were 100% going to get this done only problem is DP is very protective and does not want to hand child over and inflict pain on him, but says he cannot recall any pain issues etc he turned out fine, Also said it matters as to what i think and what females prefer.

I have always been of belief that it is DP decision as he is the male and has the penis not me i asked him what he wants and leans towards yes but does not get a definite, i have bought it up numerous times over the pregnancy with no definitive answer, DR has said bubs will make early arrival and that will mean before xmas so i wanted to have all appts sorted etc....

So i am in two minds as i am a little bit nervous but want DS to be like Dad and after the horror stories from nursing homes etc i just think that " prevention is better than the cure"

Am looking for what was your main reason for doing so that we can ultamitely make the right decision for "US"

Thanks

:babydust2:Twinkle:babydust2:

twinkleprincess

22-11-2008, 14:40

Also was just wondering how many people used Dr Terry Russell and approx cost? I have reached my safety net so wanted to find out price so i can ring Medicare and find out what rebate i could be entitled too?

twinkleprincess

23-11-2008, 17:57

Bump

shockinamillion

06-12-2008, 23:33

DP and I have already decided to circ if we have boys or a boy, DP feels very strongly about it as he has had infections and tears and things as a young man. He hates his foreskin and wishes his parents had circ'd him ( I found out they didnt as thier doctor told them it was useless and unesseccary). I told him it was his choice, but I totally agree with him 100%, the only thing that makes me consider otherwise is some of what I read in the anti-circ section. WOWEE!!

I haven't mentioned it to my mother yet, she didn't circ my little brother but they may have been her XH's doing.

FCBB

03-05-2009, 13:10

Im so glad there is a thread that is positive towards circumcision ! the last post i seen was an absolute joke and was all about ganging up on the woman that choose to do it....

i myself am totally for having our sons/sons circumcised if we have one ! my husband agrees with me 100% not only because he is done himself, but he also knows of people having to get it done later in life & knows of the pain it can cause !!

i need to speak to my ob about this the next time we are in, as i want my son to be done ASAP and if he will not do it, i will have to start looking around for someone that will !

:thumbsup: for this great thread ! :D

talia11

03-05-2009, 16:46

great thread chicks - I am having a girl but if we had of been having a boy we would of had it done for our own reasons. Good to see a place where you can chat freely about it without being ganged up on - which so frequently happens at this place.:)

mummy2Luca

03-05-2009, 19:36

Great thread!!

I circumcised my son and it upset me more than him! I think was a good thing for his health etc.

nataliaandreecesmummy

06-05-2009, 11:35

Hi, Great Thread :)

DH and i have made the choice to have our son circumcised. Our one big issue is that we have found out we are being posted to Townsville and in Darwin they will not do it untill they are 12months old.. But we will end up in Townsville before he turns one.. I would like any info on who you have used or seen in Townsville?

Thank you for your help...

2lovelyboys

25-05-2009, 10:24

Leeny

25-05-2009, 13:12

Ladies, I just want you to all know, we're getting all you're report's and I'm dealing with it as quickly as I can, so please bare with me. It's hard to keep up sometimes :thumbsup:

Trix

25-05-2009, 16:10

Hi,

this is my first post, I just realised I probably have to find the intro area lol but I am so stressed so I will get this off my mind first!
We never got our boys circumcised even though we always said we would. We also always regretted it. Now I have a 2.5yr old who always gets infections (YES we are clean!) and the doctor has said we should get it done. I'm so worried!
Does anyone have experience in getting done at that age? What does it involve? My first appointment is tomorrow but I just can't stop thinking about it,. and I'm kicking myself for never doing it. Of course if he gets done then we will do my almost 1yr old as well. Will that be stitches too????
So stressed.....

Your poor boy.

Dr Terry Russell the principal of circumcision australia has a website www.russellmedical.com.au which says they can use the plastic circumcision device up to 12 year olds. All the details on how its done is there.

I'm not expert, just came across his name on the Sunday Night program on Channel 7 last night - they did a story on the pros & cons of circumcision and he was interviewed.

Hope it helps.

2lovelyboys

25-05-2009, 16:57

Your poor boy.

Dr Terry Russell the principal of circumcision australia has a website www.russellmedical.com.au (http://www.russellmedical.com.au) which says they can use the plastic circumcision device up to 12 year olds. All the details on how its done is there.

I'm not expert, just came across his name on the Sunday Night program on Channel 7 last night - they did a story on the pros & cons of circumcision and he was interviewed.

Hope it helps.

Yeah I was looking at that website earlier but they don't seem to be in Sydney. I'll definately enquire about it at the appointment tomorrow though, gosh it would be a much nicer option!
I watched that show too, made me feel alot more settled about going through with it, but it was more aimed at doing babies - I missed that boat!

danemwalker

25-05-2009, 17:53

My baby boy is due in June and we will be circumcising him at 6-8 weeks. Our DR has already been referred and is in Sydney.

Our reasons are FACTS relating to Stds, Cervical Cancer,AIDS, infections, ect ect and the fact that I believe it is cleaner and easier for my son.

Yes his father is done but thats not important in our decision.

GReat thread !!!

2lovelyboys

25-05-2009, 18:20

Good on you, better to do it young than be faced with having to do a toddler like I am.
Hope it all goes well...

Gribel

06-06-2009, 22:48

mumo1

23-06-2009, 14:16

thank god there are people wh support this procedure, my partner and i have recently had our first child, a boy now 8 weeks old, as soon as we got home from hospital we decussed if to get him circ or not, my partner is the only one in both familys to be done due to medical issues, he was done at 12. i left it up to my partner to make the decission because i was in 2 minds about it, we had a lot of heated arguements abou the issue with his family, i stood by my partner on the issue that prevention is better than cure. my son was sniped with a local not like newer methods but i am still happy with the result and if our next child is a boy he WILL be done to.

Samarinda

24-06-2009, 15:31

mumo1 I just wanted to say how good it was you supported your partner in this! It's really none of the family's business and quite rightly his call considering why he had to be cut at 12. My DH was circumcised when he was 8 and wanted our boys done too. It's sensible to want to avoid problems before they arise and sacrificing a small piece of skin is no big deal when you see the benefits it brings. I really can't understand why there is so much opposition to dong it. In every other area of healthcare we say prevention is better than cure.:iagree:

Samarinda

24-06-2009, 15:39

:wave: Hi all
I have a 4 year, we have no issues with infections or anything, but I'm seriously considering to get him circumcised. A bit late, i know, just need re-assurance i guess that its a good thing to get done, especially now that he's this age......

Any advice is appreciated

Hi Belinda

I would get it done because once they start these things can trouble a guy on and off all his life. Some foreskins are just made that way and it runs in families. Whilst it is best to have them cut as babies it's far better to have your boy done at 4 than like my hubby at 8 or older. Has your doctor suggested it?

UmmInayah

26-06-2009, 17:51

:wave: Hi all
I have a 4 year, we have no issues with infections or anything, but I'm seriously considering to get him circumcised. A bit late, i know, just need re-assurance i guess that its a good thing to get done, especially now that he's this age......

Any advice is appreciated

Hi,

I am pro-circ, but can I ask why you think you should get it done (especially considering you have had no problems as yet?)? I think it's can be traumatic for anyone to go through unneccesary surgery..

mum2hazeandorton

29-06-2009, 21:30

We had our son circumcised when he was 2 wks old. I wanted it done as soon as possible. I was going to hold him whilst he got it done however the lovely receptionist (the drs wife) said that she would hold him for me. So I went for a walk outside and not even 10mins later I was back with him and he wasn't even crying..I gave him a bottle and he went to sleep in the car on the way home..We had no problems with him and he really didn't seem bothered by it after the initial cry..

If we have another boy we will be getting him circumcised also and the same thing again - as soon as we can and by the same professional dr.

mamaone

10-07-2009, 22:50

prevention is better than cure

What cure is this prevention better than?

nataliaandreecesmummy

11-07-2009, 12:48

HI All,

We have just moved to Townsville from Darwin and in Darwin they will not circ your son untill they are 12 months old.. My has has just turn 12months and i was woundering if any of you have had the circ done in Townsville.. Thanks Heaps...

bjones12

12-07-2009, 14:49

EcstaticMumToBe

16-07-2009, 14:37

Hi girls, i hope you dont mind if i join..

i am only 8 weeks pregnant and DH & I have discussed many times about circumcision.. we are both definately for circumcision.. unfortunately, we live in a small country town where the doctors and midwifes do not agree with it and they are actually really nasty to mothers who want to have it done.. they refuse to give contact details for people who will do the procedure.

I am a very open person.. and i respect that there are people that dont agree with it, but it annoys me that they dont respect us for our choices.. its just frustrating i guess..

anyway, we have to travel 5 hours to the nearest place to have it done, which isnt too bad i suppose cause we will get a holiday :D

what i wanted to ask was, does anyone know of dr's in Adelaide that do the procedure and does anyone have recommendations on who to see??

big thanks to all you brave parents xx

Mummy2Noah

17-07-2009, 21:54

Hey Riss :hugs: Well when we got Noah done it was through Dr Freeman at Adelaide Day Surgery im pretty sure thats your only option in Adelaide. If you decide you DEF wont to get it done I suggest when you have bubs go see Chappo and get your referral he wont question you or try to talk you out of it ( Thats who Mark seen for Nu aswell) I no it costs $500 im pretty sure ive heard its still the same :thumbsup:

Hi girls, i hope you dont mind if i join..

i am only 8 weeks pregnant and DH & I have discussed many times about circumcision.. we are both definately for circumcision.. unfortunately, we live in a small country town where the doctors and midwifes do not agree with it and they are actually really nasty to mothers who want to have it done.. they refuse to give contact details for people who will do the procedure.

I am a very open person.. and i respect that there are people that dont agree with it, but it annoys me that they dont respect us for our choices.. its just frustrating i guess..

anyway, we have to travel 5 hours to the nearest place to have it done, which isnt too bad i suppose cause we will get a holiday :D

what i wanted to ask was, does anyone know of dr's in Adelaide that do the procedure and does anyone have recommendations on who to see??

big thanks to all you brave parents xx

EcstaticMumToBe

19-07-2009, 09:49

cool.. thanks babe xx

ojmum

12-08-2009, 09:34

Riss - i live in Adelaide and my son was done at 3 weeks (he is 2.5 years old now) with a Dr Sparnon at Adelaide Day Surgery. MummytoNoah is right - it did cost about $500 back then so not sure what it is now! He uses the plastibell method and my son recovered really well and quickly - just cried the first day when he did a wee in his nappy but other than that no real side effects.

I do not regret my decision at all and if we have another boy will do the same! Its nice to see this thread with positive experiences and feed back about circumcision! As a parent, everyone is so different and i think we need to respect each other!

was1

20-08-2009, 13:52

Wondering if anyone has used Dr Campbell at the San. I am due in 2 weeks and we have decided to have our little boy circumcised but want to try find the best doctor for the job. As I am not from Sydney I dont know many docs and my OB wont make a suggestion.

Thanks a million!

Blonde Assassin

26-08-2009, 11:15

Hi all

Just wanted to let those of you who live in Melbourne know that we highly recommend Dr Goldman in the Melbourne Circumcison Centre in Noble Park :thumbsup:

Our son was circ'd at 3 weeks..

It was very quick & easy, & he chats to you for at least 10 minutes prior to getting the procedure done & his after-procedure care is fantastic!

bandy79

26-08-2009, 11:50

Hi Girls,
This is my first post so not sure what I am doing yet...

I am searching for a Doctor in Darwin that performs plastibell circumcision... My son is now 7 weeks old and was told to ask my GP at our 6 week check up but my GP didn't know or didn't want to help ( he was against ) of someone.... We had our first son circumcised in Alice Springs at 7 months under generalanesthesiae and was a horrible experience for myself as I had to watch them put him under and after he had a Vaseline gauze that dried on his new skin and had to be soaked off and removed which bleed... needless to say a lot of tears :crying:... If anyone can help it would be appreciated...

happyluvy

26-08-2009, 12:06

loving6

26-08-2009, 19:25

Hi Happyluvy I was feeling a little bit beaten up in the other threads too. My hubby is not done but both our ds are. We didn't take our decision lightly. For us it's about a covenant.

SammiAnn

26-08-2009, 19:41

Hi girls :wave:,

Nice to see you all! Our son was circ'd at ten days. We had no issues with the procedure and no bleeding. We're happy with our decision.

Best of luck to anyone wishing to have it done. I'll also answer any questions about our son's procedure to help any of you.

Sam :sunshine:

nataliaandreecesmummy

27-08-2009, 05:54

Hi Brandy 79,

I have just moved from Darwin to Townsville.. I know that in Darwin they will not do the circumcision untill they are after 12 months.. Which has made it hard on us as we have moved to Townsville before my son was 12 months old so we now have to try and find some one in Townsville to do it for us... I know the OB at Darwin Private Hospital will do pass you on to a surgeon there that will do the circumcision... I think they do the plastibell But they will put him under to do it.. That why you have to wait till they are after 12 months.. I hope this helps but i know there are not many in Darwin that will do it... I think we will try for Brissey i saw a real good one on the net i can't think of the name but will look it up again that will do the plastibell as we have to go over that way in nov.. I know they have a few around australia.. Sorry i can't help you out anymore i didn't get to much info on this either when i was trying to get it done in Darwin....

bandy79

27-08-2009, 20:53

firsttimemumvmr

11-09-2009, 02:16

yay for this thread! :flowerz:

i know i dont have kids YET, and not even pg YET, so i guess i dont have any experience in any of this.... but i am exploring the option, and asking questions in other threads was kinda scarey!! haha :o

DH is circ - and i would like to circ my future DS.

I really hope this thread stays positive too! .... coz i would like to come back for a read, and advice, and find a doc in my area later if needed.

:wave:

I'm relatevely new here and have been thinking about this topic on and off. DH was done as an infant. He's mother was Jewish and never gave the issue much thought until we were expecting. In the end we decided that perhaps we ought to let the child decides when he grows up. However, after a lot of reading, I have almost come to the opposite decision, purely to prevent possible future medical problems. Like many of you, I feel that the anti lobby is very vocal and tend to make people feel guilty. Another thing I have found is that they are going to traumatise some poor otherwise happily circumcised teenage male with their dronning as to how much they are missing out. DH is far too strong personality-wise to let these comments affect him. Okay, he will never find out what it feels like to have sex with an intact penis but then again, he has never had a reason to complain about lack of enjoyment, so he's happy but he pointed this out to me; that the anti pressure groups may manage to get our boy to feel deprived of something later in life.This thread is definitely very helpful since no one is allowed to jump on our throats and tell us that we're shallow, selfish or whatever. I worry a little that if we go with this, our kid may resent us later on. I'm glad that DH doesn't feel that way about what his parents decided for him, especially since they die in a car accident when he was a young child and resenting them now would not be a very positive psychological experience but as I said, he doesn't at all.To wrap this up, we both think they are advantages to circumcision but fear that little one may feel robbed of something later in life, not so much because he would really be missing out but because other people might make him feel that way.Has anybody had these thoughts?

happyluvy

11-09-2009, 09:46

Has anybody had these thoughts?

Heya... i never had these thoughts untill i came here, and have to admit they lasted all of two seconds. One ear out the other. My DH is also circ, has no prob whatsoever (infact he is kinda proud of his umm package :laughing: ) My Dh and I are both very confident and strong so it thats how we would raise our children. Its depends on the environment they grown in that makes their personalities. Which in turn effects weather they would even care or not. (iYKWIM? hehe)

Its completly up to each parent to make that choice, and i def think we have made our choice, despite all the negative throwbacks, and im not going to feel guilty for doing something for my child that i think is in their best interest.

All the best darl! :goodvibes:

firsttimemumvmr

11-09-2009, 11:37

Heya... i never had these thoughts untill i came here, and have to admit they lasted all of two seconds. One ear out the other. My DH is also circ, has no prob whatsoever (infact he is kinda proud of his umm package :laughing: ) My Dh and I are both very confident and strong so it thats how we would raise our children. Its depends on the environment they grown in that makes their personalities. Which in turn effects weather they would even care or not. (iYKWIM? hehe)

Its completly up to each parent to make that choice, and i def think we have made our choice, despite all the negative throwbacks, and im not going to feel guilty for doing something for my child that i think is in their best interest.

All the best darl! :goodvibes:

Thanks for your support again. We're pretty strong people also and have already coped with people judging us on other issues. We come from different faith backgrounds and this never bothered us for instance. People sometimes just have to point out that there is something wrong in other people's lifes. When we first got together some people even insinuated to me (a work colleague at the time) that I was with him because he inherited a substantial amount which is completely wrong. In fact, I had known him as a friend of my brothers since we were teenagers. I certainly dismissed that one but still felt a little upset. Then there were people judging me for having a c-section although the baby was breeched. I had friends who got stick for not breastfeeding. I guess it never ends whatever one decides to do.It seems very likely that we're going ahead anyhow. We are basing our decision on medical grounds so I guess if little one decides to complain when he gets older we can explain why we thought it best. Also, if this is the only thing he can whinge about, I guess we would have done a pretty good job as parents!

Samarinda

21-09-2009, 17:20

I'm relatevely new here and have been thinking about this topic on and off. DH was done as an infant. He's mother was Jewish and never gave the issue much thought until we were expecting. In the end we decided that perhaps we ought to let the child decides when he grows up. However, after a lot of reading, I have almost come to the opposite decision, purely to prevent possible future medical problems. Like many of you, I feel that the anti lobby is very vocal and tend to make people feel guilty. Another thing I have found is that they are going to traumatise some poor otherwise happily circumcised teenage male with their dronning as to how much they are missing out. DH is far too strong personality-wise to let these comments affect him. Okay, he will never find out what it feels like to have sex with an intact penis but then again, he has never had a reason to complain about lack of enjoyment, so he's happy but he pointed this out to me; that the anti pressure groups may manage to get our boy to feel deprived of something later in life.This thread is definitely very helpful since no one is allowed to jump on our throats and tell us that we're shallow, selfish or whatever. I worry a little that if we go with this, our kid may resent us later on. I'm glad that DH doesn't feel that way about what his parents decided for him, especially since they die in a car accident when he was a young child and resenting them now would not be a very positive psychological experience but as I said, he doesn't at all.To wrap this up, we both think they are advantages to circumcision but fear that little one may feel robbed of something later in life, not so much because he would really be missing out but because other people might make him feel that way.Has anybody had these thoughts?

You really don't need to worry about your son resenting his circumcision IF you get in first and explain it early on as soon as he is old enough to understand. Point out that that when he was born you asked the doctor to "make him look like daddy".

All young boys worship their dads so he's not going to wish he looks like the other uncut kids. I have heard of parents writing a letter carefully explaining their reasons for circumcising their son on the day it is done. They then seal it and give it to him when he's a teenager. Another idea is to buy a book like that of Australian Dr Brian Morris' "In Favour of Circumcision" and give that to him to read when he asks about it.

You can read reviews of other suitable books and get publishers details here:

http://www.gilgalsoc.org/b_reviews.html

IndigoJ

21-09-2009, 23:25

Thanks nataliaandreecesmummy

More info than anyone else has given me... We are heading over your way next month to visit my sister in law and have heard of a doctor in Cairns that does it Dr Waterfield but yeah I have been recommended to Dr Terry Russell in Brisbane or Dr Michael Read on the Gold Coast

Not sure if your info is correct there, i had to travel from Cairns to Townsville as there was no doctor closer that could do it for me. I went to Dr H Stalewski in Townsville, he uses the plastibel method, my son was 4wks when he had his done. I was very happy with the results.

firsttimemumvmr

24-09-2009, 04:55

Can I ask how many of you have lost sensation by using a condom? Sure, necessary evil. I am in my right mind and if I split up with Dan, definitely condoms for me! Yet, how many of us have trusted a partner after a month? I'm one of them! We can all teach our outspring but what's the reality??? I'm certainly not promiscous in my mind and I'm married and still... bottom line is than Dan and I still do it without, after 5 years that might be safe. When we first did it, not sure...
On my honeymoon I did itt without it! and tbe fact that he was done was comforting!
The only reason i went on sensation is because they hate me for it! My DH I said before is good; then I get a book saying that crcumcised males are rubbish in bed, I laughed but then I took her to task, just like the people who think I'm inferior because I had a c-section! I can certainly say that my greatest achievements in life don't involve escaping surgery! I so not feel a lesser woman because I gave birth by c-section, yet even my own mother was roo proud of her natural birthNever mind, I have a lovely boy and that;s what matter!!!

firsttimemumvmr

28-09-2009, 13:25

Sorry, I posted that when I was pretty angry!My boy was done back in England, when we went to a wedding.Rowan, my boy is fine. I'm sorry I was so angry in my last post. I do not believe I have taken over his human rigths. I'll explain when he's old enough.Religion-wise we want him to decide for himself. Dh is Jewish and I'm Protestant but I have in fact Wiccan leanings...It's done now and I have even less patience for some of the crowd who thing we are not better than mass muirderers!

Father

28-09-2009, 13:37

Firsttimemumvmr, don't let them get to you. You had the courage to make your own decision which was in your boys best interest.
Nothing anybody says can change that - and don't let them.
If they want to repeatedly post on here in the vain attempt at scaring off new parents - there is not much we can do.
I'm sure that people in the real world will be able to see through these scare tactics and still be able to make their own educated decisions.

Hanna88

28-09-2009, 13:43

Not sure if your info is correct there, i had to travel from Cairns to Townsville as there was no doctor closer that could do it for me. I went to Dr H Stalewski in Townsville, he uses the plastibel method, my son was 4wks when he had his done. I was very happy with the results.

My sister also had to travel to Townsville to get her son circumcised 2months ago as there were no doctors in Cairns that would do it...

nataliaandreecesmummy

29-09-2009, 11:05

Not sure if your info is correct there, i had to travel from Cairns to Townsville as there was no doctor closer that could do it for me. I went to Dr H Stalewski in Townsville, he uses the plastibel method, my son was 4wks when he had his done. I was very happy with the results.

Hi i am in townsville now and i am having heaps of trouble trying to find someone here that will do my son as in Darwin they will not do the circ untill they are one and we moved to Townsville just before we could do the circ..Because of my sons age all though only 15months i am finding it hard to find someone..

Dot

29-09-2009, 19:16

:wave:Ladies,

I am so glad I found this thread, I have been dreading asking this question on here as I have seen the horrible remarks in previous threads.

I am currently pregnant and my partner and I have decided to circ if we have a boy.

The problem is I am having great difficulty finding any info on Dr's in Sydney who do the procedure. I would like him (if its a him) to be done as close to birth as possible, days or weeks. Can anyone provide me with any dr's in Sydney and where they practice? Oh and how was your experience with this person?

Thankyou so much in advance. :thumbsup:

SalTheGal

29-09-2009, 20:23

Hi Dot, I don't know of anyone specifically....but just a thought that in our town the urologist performs the procedure..so maybe ring around some urology clinics? Might be a good place to start.

29-09-2009, 20:39

firsttimemumvmr

30-09-2009, 07:10

You really don't need to worry about your son resenting his circumcision IF you get in first and explain it early on as soon as he is old enough to understand. Point out that that when he was born you asked the doctor to "make him look like daddy".

All young boys worship their dads so he's not going to wish he looks like the other uncut kids. I have heard of parents writing a letter carefully explaining their reasons for circumcising their son on the day it is done. They then seal it and give it to him when he's a teenager. Another idea is to buy a book like that of Australian Dr Brian Morris' "In Favour of Circumcision" and give that to him to read when he asks about it.

You can read reviews of other suitable books and get publishers details here:

http://www.gilgalsoc.org/b_reviews.html

Thanks hun! Our reason for doing it wasn't looking like daddy but I can see how this may make him feel better if he decides that we made the wrong decision. Now, I'm English and neither my dad or my brothers, apart from one who had problems, have been done. We're a close-knit family so Rowan will know. Dan, DH is Jewish but not practising, so why do it? Well, again health after much deliberation.About the doctor you mention, very interesting because his credentials are those of a genious, his work on cancer and stuff... now everyone wants him ostracised! The guy has made many important, unrelated contributions to the medical world. A lot of people even said plainly that he's into 'circumfetish'. If that is the case, I want him expose, but evidence please!I read Law in the UK and DH is and FBI officer (for his young age - 29- his career is interesting, pretty high for his each in anti-terrorism before we moved to NY state). Many people attempt to say I'm 'naive' when making my choices. I have made trillions of spelling mistakes here because I'm dislesxyc (is that right?) but I do have a brain. I studied at Manchester and DH at Oxford for crying out loud! We aren't stupid or naive! I got the same banter when I had my baby by c-section! I was supposed to feel 'robbed' etc. I felt over the moon to have my little boy safe and sound with me! Now, I mean no disrespect to my sisters who had depression after birth; that's a serious matter and unfortunately very common. In England we have a say: 'if it's not broken, don't fix it'. I guess that goes in the 'anti' favour but then again, if you're done and nothing is wrong, don't fix it either. Sick and tired or hearing about how much people like Dan are missing. I doubt it very much. Either that or I'm a sex goddess! lol

firsttimemumvmr

30-09-2009, 07:15

Thanks hun! Our reason for doing it wasn't looking like daddy but I can see how this may make him feel better if he decides that we made the wrong decision. Now, I'm English and neither my dad or my brothers, apart from one who had problems, have been done. We're a close-knit family so Rowan will know. Dan, DH is Jewish but not practising, so why do it? Well, again health after much deliberation.About the doctor you mention, very interesting because his credentials are those of a genious, his work on cancer and stuff... now everyone wants him ostracised! The guy has made many important, unrelated contributions to the medical world. A lot of people even said plainly that he's into 'circumfetish'. If that is the case, I want him expose, but evidence please!I read Law in the UK and DH is and FBI officer (for his young age - 29- his career is interesting, pretty high for his each in anti-terrorism before we moved to NY state). Many people attempt to say I'm 'naive' when making my choices. I have made trillions of spelling mistakes here because I'm dislesxyc (is that right?) but I do have a brain. I studied at Manchester and DH at Oxford for crying out loud! We aren't stupid or naive! I got the same banter when I had my baby by c-section! I was supposed to feel 'robbed' etc. I felt over the moon to have my little boy safe and sound with me! Now, I mean no disrespect to my sisters who had depression after birth; that's a serious matter and unfortunately very common. In England we have a say: 'if it's not broken, don't fix it'. I guess that goes in the 'anti' favour but then again, if you're done and nothing is wrong, don't fix it either. Sick and tired or hearing about how much people like Dan are missing. I doubt it very much. Either that or I'm a sex goddess! lol

Sorry, got side-tracked, Brian yeah, my husband and I decided that any 'material info' re him being well... would be FBI investigated, without any solid proof other than a website with a facility for contacts, nothing he can do. One can be sued on defamation, so some of these people owe to be a little careful (not my threat, I will never do it but someone might).This is not a theat of any kind, no action has been brought against anyone (at least not from my quarters) just letting you know what can happen without proof. Patronising, I guess so.