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IndigoJ
06-10-2011, 01:34
My 4.5mth old baby wont sleep.

Thats my vent, I have to do it here so i dont do it elsewhere. Im sleepdeprived, im on the edge. Ive had enough. Ive tried everything apart from letting him CIO.

:crying:

krystallxx
06-10-2011, 03:29
My 4.5mth old baby wont sleep.

Thats my vent, I have to do it here so i dont do it elsewhere. Im sleepdeprived, im on the edge. Ive had enough. Ive tried everything apart from letting him CIO.

:crying:

I hear ya ! No advice but your not alone. Hugs

hopefully2
06-10-2011, 05:07
Did you give him Panadol something might of been hurting?

MsMummy
06-10-2011, 07:37
Hugs.

Have you guys tried co-sleeping. Saved my sanity. Don't think I would have coped otherwise.

mmy2b
06-10-2011, 08:00
Hugs.

Have you guys tried co-sleeping. Saved my sanity. Don't think I would have coped otherwise.

Ditto! i prefer the they'll grow out of not sleeping method....My DS2 would go down in his cot fine at the start of the night, so we contined doing this. But as soon as he woke up he was in bed with us the rest of the night.

Meant we all got sleep and werent getting stresed trying to settle him. About 11.5 months he went from waking around 6+ times a night to one night we didnt have to get him up at all and it continued like that...was a long year but my confident little boy we have now who loves his sleep was well worth it. He will ask to go to bed now when he is tired and go get his sleeping bag and teddy and wait for us to take him in.

Cue
06-10-2011, 08:23
For my 9 week old its all about timing. She would never sleep more than 20 min at a time during the day, she'd just cry all the time.

We spent a week at tresillian and learned about her tired signs, got out of the snacking/napping cycle we were in and bingo - sleeping baby. As soon as we see the tired signs she's wrapped and put to bed. She usually cries a bit when I put her down but I stay with her to calm her and she's asleep within 5-10 mins.

The techniques we got from tresillian work brilliantly.

SalsaMama
06-10-2011, 10:38
No advice as I think you've tried loads of things already.

Sorry to hear that sleep is still cr@p for you :(

IndigoJ
06-10-2011, 13:18
We already co-sleep :(. He goes to sleep at 12am-3am and when he wakes he comes into our bed, from there he wakes 2-3 times in the 6hrs he is in bed with me.

Id love to follow the theory that he will grow out of it, but i have a 3yo and a house to look after, i cant function on so little sleep.

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IndigoJ
06-10-2011, 13:27
No panadol, he does this every night. We already co-sleep. He goes to sleep between 12-3am then when he wakes he comes to bed with me where he wakes 2-3times in the 6hrs he is in there. Id love to think he will sleep eventually, but i have a 3yo, i cant be sleep deprived anymore.


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duckduckgoose
06-10-2011, 13:37
Big hugs. I'm sure if you're anything like me you know all the sleep theory. Some babies just haven't read the books.

Sleep deprivation is pure torture. It cannot be underestimated. I hope you get answers soon.

Is he fed to sleep? Even changing that to rocking to sleep helped my DS.

SalsaMama
06-10-2011, 13:53
Actually we did get a sleep consultant in and she made all the difference.

IndigoJ
06-10-2011, 14:02
Sorry bout the double post tapatalk was being spazzy.

I do feed to sleep, not because thats the only way to make him sleep but because he always falls asleep on the breast. I live on an island so i cant get anybody in to show me anything, i cant even get a night off to sleep. We are trying a routine today and so far its useless

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funnymama
06-10-2011, 14:11
Hi,

Have you looked at any of the clips on baby sleep training on youtube? You may find some of their tips helpful and if you cant get anyone to show you this might be helpful??? They have 'tutorials'.

trishalishous
14-10-2011, 17:06
how are things going?

captainscaptain
31-10-2011, 10:16
So sorry....sleep depreivation is the worst feeling ever and I don't even have a second child to look after!

MothersMilk
31-10-2011, 10:26
I have had two babies who didn't sleep and 4 months was the time when it just seemed to really turn to crud. Something about that age...
It does get better, i can't really tell you how to get him to sleep but i can tell you it will get better.
My method is basically just surviving until it gets better. I just let go of trying so hard to make sleep happen and just went with it - when i got up in the morning i just pretended i had slept all night. I know that sounds so stupid but it actually did help.
Can you catch up on sleep on the weekend while DP looks after bub? Obviously if you are breastfeeding you will need to do that but he could just bring you bub to feed and do everything else?

I know it is such an awful feeling not getting any sleep. :hugs:

IndigoJ
31-10-2011, 12:17
DS isn ow 5.5mths and still does not sleep. It gets better then worse. The night before last he slept 1.5hrs then 5hrs. But last night he slept 30min from115 to 145 then was on my boob until 5, then didnt go back to sleep until 630-830. Dp does take him for a bit, not enough though. His day sleeps are getting better. Some days his non-sleep doesnt bother me but some days im so tired and frustrated. Thank you :)

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doglover
31-10-2011, 12:34
I have a 4 month old that doesn't sleep. GP and pead reckon reflux - reflux formula and infant gaviscon have made no difference. This week I have started him on Brauers sleep medicine and got on the love me baby wrap that keeps his arms up and enclosed (previously he was always getting out of his wraps). This week he has been going down at 730pm and I haven't heard him till 3-4am and then he comes into our bed and goes back to sleep for another couple of hours. Day sleeps are also getting better - at least 2 x 2 hour blocks (previously between 6am and 730pm he was sleeping an hour broken total). Don't know if any of that helps you..

narribri
31-10-2011, 12:45
4-5 month sleep regression is well documented and an absolute nightmare. It will pass, at least a little. Just try not to get TOO entrenched in bad sleep habits like rocking, cosleeping etc as it may come back to bite you in the bum later.

PS - not saying not to do those things! Just keep changing it up so they don't get in a habit and start needing it every time they go to sleep.

Hang in there, I did the sleep deprivation thing for 11 months before it finally started to ease, I know what its like :hugs:

IndigoJ
31-10-2011, 21:48
4-5 month sleep regression is well documented and an absolute nightmare. It will pass, at least a little. Just try not to get TOO entrenched in bad sleep habits like rocking, cosleeping etc as it may come back to bite you in the bum later.

PS - not saying not to do those things! Just keep changing it up so they don't get in a habit and start needing it every time they go to sleep.

Hang in there, I did the sleep deprivation thing for 11 months before it finally started to ease, I know what its like :hugs:

Thank you, its not a regression thing, he has never slept. Co-sleeping and rocking are the *only* way i can get him to sleep.

Ive tried Wrapping, ive got swaddle up, and sleepy wings and stretchy wraps, he only sleeps an hour in them. Ill keep trying though. Thank you xx

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IndigoJ
31-10-2011, 21:49
Also he doesnt have reflux we've been to the dr :)

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SalsaMama
31-10-2011, 22:00
Sorry to hear the sleeping situation is still sh!te. :(

IndigoJ
01-11-2011, 01:42
Well its 1am, baby was swaddled but cracked it. So now he is unswaddled and Ive been trying to get him to sleep for the past two hours. I was at the end of my rope, yet again, so gave him to dp so i can get a drink. Now he thinks i should do Cio. I cant even trust him to look after him now cause he will let him cry. Dont know what to do

Kooglekat
01-11-2011, 01:53
:hugs:

I'm sorry that sucks. I've been in the same position with DH when my DS has been particularly bad. It's awful, I was worried that he would go to him but leave him screaming in the cot so I just did it all myself. I actually don't think he would have done it, it was just frustration talking.

I wish I had the answer for you but sadly I don't know it myself :(
Do you have a glider or rocking chair? I have spent hours just rocking DS in my glider chair, at least I can be sitting back with my eyes shut which helps

Kooglekat
01-11-2011, 08:48
How are you this morning Indigo? :hugs: :hugs:

Hope the rest of your night was a little better

IndigoJ
01-11-2011, 10:24
Thank you xx. He went to sleep at 2am after panadol. He woke at 4am, then slept until 930 with me. Strange child. Dp is particularly sooky this morning. So now i have to listen to him whinge about how tired he is. Baby is happy.

SWandSH
01-11-2011, 14:15
I totally agree with cue. tired signs are critical, as is avoiding snack feeds. After a stint in sleep school we ended up on a perfect 3 hour feeding schedule. Sleep = sleep
Sleep
At that age they cannot be stretched past their sleep time. If you see a tired sign, wrap and put to bed. If they cry, pat shush, in arms or in cot, edepending upon what works best. Bub needs to sleep for at least an hour if they wake after one sleep cycle pat shush back to sleep. Alway out down asleep or drowsy.
Feeding
Bub needs to have regular long feeds. At that age 3 hourly feeds. Always offer both sides and then the first again.
Snack feeds mean that
1. Bub isn't full enough to have a good sleep
2. It isn't good for breast milk supply, breasts are not being drained, therefore they don't produce as much next time.

This worked a treat for us.
Hope you get some sleep soon. I too couldn't subscribe to the this too shall pass philosophy I would have jumped off a bridge.

IndigoJ
02-11-2011, 01:20
Thank you sm, we've been trying all that since he was born, no luck. He will get there. I know he will. I just have to deal with it. This too shall pass. He went to sleep easy tonight, its 1230 but he went to sleep easy. Fingers crossed for more than 2hrs sleep.

captainscaptain
02-11-2011, 06:50
I too couldn't subscribe to the this too shall pass philosophy I would have jumped off a bridge.

I agree with this to SOME extent. Mothers need to look after themselves too!

IndigoJ
02-11-2011, 16:58
We had another night of him going to sleep at 230am, then was in bed with me from 3am-8am