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Mumma2011
13-09-2011, 10:32
DD wakes often during the night and i suspect its because she doesn't know how to settle herself back to sleep. can i teach her to self settle without crying?
I really need some solutions to this non sleeping house of mine, and i'm ready to try just about anything (crying is my last resort).
i was also considering a comforter of some kind (blanket/teddy) as she likes to snuggle into my shirt or dressing gown when she goes to sleep - but when is it ok to introduce one and how do i know she wont smother herself with it? (she is 6 months).
welcoming all ideas! :fingerscrossed:
Bubbles10
13-09-2011, 14:33
Yep, plenty of babies learn to get back to sleep without being left to cry it out.
Have you read 'the no cry sleep solution' by Elizabeth Pantley? you might be able to get it at the library if you don't want to buy a copy.
6 months is still pretty young to expect a bub to sleep all night by themself, does your bub feed over night? how often does she wake?
you can get safer comforters that would be ok for a 6 month old, breathable fabrics are good cos even if bub has them over her face she can breathe through the fabric
Mumma2011
13-09-2011, 16:55
I did hear about that book... I might try locating one!
She is waking for 3 feeds ( 10, 1, and 4) then waking for the day at 5:30. She will sometimes wake in-between these feeds for settling. And she only naps during the day no matter how hard I try to get her to sleep longer.
I know she is only 6 months and don't really mind if she doesn't sleep through, I'd be happy with once or twice a night.
Mollymoo
13-09-2011, 17:22
Hello,
When I was having truble getting my bubba to sleep around the same age, a nurse showed me something that helped - she took a tshirt I had been wearing all day (so it smelt like 'me'), tied it in a big knot, and gave that to my bubba in his cot. It didn't have any loose bits that could smother him, but he liked to cuddle into that.
Good luck!
Mumma2011
13-09-2011, 17:24
Oooh that's a good idea! I'll try that one tonight!
Ohhh I'm gonna try that too!!
frostymum
28-09-2011, 17:40
Me three :) 6 mo DD has been waking every hour through the night, I hope this works
I second the No Cry Sleep Solution. But I think at 6 months it's probably pretty normal [and definitely exhausting!]. I'd also say she still needs those feeds. My DD is 14 months and has only in the last week started to self soothe. I can hear her fussing and whinging a little then she settles back down.
elleandsam
29-09-2011, 06:14
We did a combination of the No-Cry Sleep Solution and Babybliss. DS has been sleeping better since we got rid of the dummy.
DaisyGal
03-10-2011, 21:19
Hello,
When I was having truble getting my bubba to sleep around the same age, a nurse showed me something that helped - she took a tshirt I had been wearing all day (so it smelt like 'me'), tied it in a big knot, and gave that to my bubba in his cot. It didn't have any loose bits that could smother him, but he liked to cuddle into that.
Good luck!
I'm going to try this, thank you :)
Boobycino
03-10-2011, 21:31
I loved NCSS, but I agree 6 months might still be a little young to sleep through.
'they' say babies can sleep through at 6 months, but not all babies are ready.
marnieNdiesel
03-10-2011, 22:32
I used the babywise books with my DS from 3 weeks to my discretion and by 6 months he was sleeping right through. Now at 20 months he sleeps from 8pm - 730am and still has 2x 1.5 hour naps in the day.
It gives you the basics for first time mums it helped me.
Bubbles10
04-10-2011, 08:24
Babywise would not fit under 'No Cry' Sleeping Solutions.
We don't 'punish' a child for needing help to get around when they can't walk independently yet, even though other children of the same age are walking. The same goes for sleep, some kids need help for longer than others.
elleandsam
04-10-2011, 08:52
Babywise would not fit under 'No Cry' Sleeping Solutions.
We don't 'punish' a child for needing help to get around when they can't walk independently yet, even though other children of the same age are walking. The same goes for sleep, some kids need help for longer than others.
:iagree: this isn't the section to talk Ezzo.
jonnysmama
04-10-2011, 09:16
I've been using the babybliss book, things are slowly getting better.
I use a muslin comforter for DS, it's breathable in case he puts it over his face.
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marnieNdiesel
04-10-2011, 09:40
@ bubbles10 who was talking punishment?
elleandsam
04-10-2011, 09:48
@ bubbles10 who was talking punishment?
The Ezzos encourage biblical chastisement or spanking from 5 months of age in Preparation for Parent courses run through churches, I've read the books and I remember reading that "children learn from natural consequences" and on page 72 he wrote to leave babies to cry for up to an hour. Certainly not appropriate advice for the no-cry section.
:backtotopic:
marnieNdiesel
04-10-2011, 09:58
Well as I stated I used books to "my discretion" as a guide with the ability to use my own intellectual mind.
My baby has been able to self soothe from day one.
As I recall any suggestions were welcome so I offered my experience with how I was able to get my baby to sleep in his routine.
marnieNdiesel
04-10-2011, 10:02
@ mumma2011 - sorry if I gave wrong advice, when you mentioned all ideas welcome, I thought I would just let you know what helped me with my sons sleeping routine. Hope all works out for you :)
ChaCha2011
16-11-2011, 10:37
Perhaps try locating the book "helping your baby to sleep" by anni gethin and Beth mcgregor. It's amazing!
http://www.google.com.au/m/search?site=images&source=mog&hl=en&gl=au&client=safari&q=helping%20uour%20baby%20to%20sleep&sa=N#i=1
Oh wow thank you for this thread :)
My son is 8mths old and is waking every 2-21/2 hours over night, the only thing that settles him is popping him on for a feed, last night he was up till 11:30 then at 2:30, 5, and then 7, he's still asleep now at 8:30, he will sleep during the day however this is starting to be effected.
I'll be trying the knotted t-shirt tonight :).
I have just been to the health nurse for our 8mth check and she has suggested residential sleep school, my only worry with this is they may teach CC and I don't want to do that!!
I tried it for the first time yesterday and it ended up with DS crying for over an hour with me comforting him and I was in tears too, needless to say I will NOT be doing that again.
Busy Bee
17-11-2011, 08:31
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Mumma2011
17-11-2011, 11:48
Wow, thanks everyone for your comments, it's been a while since I've been in here so I've only just noticed alot of them. DD is now 8 months and still sleeping poorly. I'm thinking I may be taking her to a sleep school if it doesn't get better very soon. I've noticed a few extra book recommendations, thankyou- I will be investigating those
We're in pretty much the same situation :( Bubs has been up since 3.30 this morning (used to go back down from 3 til about 5 but its slowly started getting earlier and earlier). He now wakes about every hour and a half.
So exhausting - good luck:hugs:
MothersMilk
22-11-2011, 08:09
subscribing..
Mumma2011
24-11-2011, 17:41
The last few days we have been doing a 9:00 bed time which is making a big difference
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