Should i report them

[Melissa1983]

Today a builder from the units that my landlord is fixing up came into me and told me that he had to walk away from the units yesterday afternoon and this morning because tenants were yelling at their kids.. like f**king shut up or i will tie you the hell up... The builder is normally a strong person and doesn't walk away from things but he had to this time or he would have said something.. I have written them a letter saying that a complaint came in regarding the language that is being used at the property.

The children are only 4 and 19 months. Should i report them to children services? i hate to imagine what they are doing to these poor children.

[grubindi]

i would approach it carefully because if you didnt hear they will say it is hear say iykwim also what if the parents swear in there normal everyday conversations with friends too?as long as they arent doing it all the time infront of the kids etc maybe they are people whose every second word is f iykwim. as long as the kids arent saying this as well maybe he or whoever was having a bad day perhaps the kids wouldnt listen. seriously who knows the whole situation and what had happened etc to the family that day. do the kids walk around with bruises etc or are they healthy looking and always happy? if they are always happy and healty etc then really there is no need for docs to be involved as the local police will inform (i have worked for 2 police stations in qld and have heard of this before)

[Melissa1983]

i have never seen the children as he always comes in on his own.

[grubindi]

oh ok odd that you havent even seen the kids but anyway, why would he tie them up surely they have their own rooms to go to and he shouldnt be tying the kids up anyway. as for the swearing really legally there is nothing that can be done due to the fact that alot of people swear in front of there kids and it has become more used language in the past few years but however if he is actually tying the kids up the police will look at that but then they need proof as in you or another witness has actually seen this occuring otherwise it is hear say and the police hands are tied they can do sfa about hear say. who always comes in on his own?is he a friend of yours? what did he say about the letter?

[cenasangel]

You can report them if you want........... and if your willing to bear the consequenses of thast action.

[mythreelittlemonkeys]

Evryone is right you have to have proof...even if a child being abused/neglected without proof as deemed by DCD/DOCS etc they wont intervene and often decide in best interests of child not to intervene. I dont think you should feel bad if you do decide to report them - wouldnt it be awful if there was abuse and noone looked into it...if they have nothing to hide there wont be a problem...and as I said a child literally has to die before they get involved...(sorry they are useless in WA and children have died because they wont intervene).
I couldnt personally stand by if I knew abuse going on or even pretty sure it was happening...

[Melissa1983]

one of the girls at work, her sister works for children services.

I went there today to do an inspection on the house next door, and they were all home and there wasn't any yelling or anything, so i think they might have been having a bad day.

Thanks for the input though!

[B-belle]

Hmmmm i only jus found this thread.

How many of you say to your children your going to "tie them the f up" when your having a bad day.

I think it is more then that....it is emotional abuse. Ive done heaps of classes on child abuse, and reporting it and this is definatly something worth reporting!

Report them...at least you would have done the right thing by those children. Its not like child protection will barge in and remove them...they will just investigate it. Better to be safe then sorry.

Too many children in this world get abused, because people do not believe it is their place to say anything. If they dont, who will?

[cenasangel]

Hmmmm i only jus found this thread.

How many of you say to your children your going to "tie them the f up" when your having a bad day.

I think it is more then that....it is emotional abuse. Ive done heaps of classes on child abuse, and reporting it and this is definatly something worth reporting!

Report them...at least you would have done the right thing by those children. Its not like child protection will barge in and remove them...they will just investigate it. Better to be safe then sorry.

Too many children in this world get abused, because people do not believe it is their place to say anything. If they dont, who will?


Ok....... the first thing i want to know is how many child abuse classes have you done where they have taught you the consequenses of your actions and taking responsability for a notification. Do you honestly belive the BS they give you that that the person you notify on will never find out who done it ?? Do they also teach you how to deal with it when the person you just dobbede in confronts you about the issue (without a blunt object if they are taking it pretty well)

Secondly i'm wondering if anyone has thought that prahaps the child in question might be Autistic or suffering from ADHD. Quite often in these cases during a tantrum things could very easily be construded as so9mething they are not e.g having to physicaly restraqin the child to prevent him from hurting himself or locking him/her in their room to prevent them from furthur harm to themself or othersw until such time as the tantrum has ceased.[/quote]

[Lirael]

Secondly i'm wondering if anyone has thought that prahaps the child in question might be Autistic or suffering from ADHD. Quite often in these cases during a tantrum things could very easily be construded as so9mething they are not e.g having to physicaly restraqin the child to prevent him from hurting himself or locking him/her in their room to prevent them from furthur harm to themself or othersw until such time as the tantrum has ceased.[/quote]

are you F*****G kidding me?? NOONE should tie up or restrain a child!!! I have a son on the autism spectrum scale and no way in hell would I EVER do something like that. why is it ok to you to do it to a child with autism or ADHD???:thumbsdown::banghead:

[Whispers]

are you F*****G kidding me?? NOONE should tie up or restrain a child!!! I have a son on the autism spectrum scale and no way in hell would I EVER do something like that. why is it ok to you to do it to a child with autism or ADHD???:thumbsdown::banghead:[/quote]

i really dont think they mean that 2come out the way they did i think what they were trying to say is taht a child of this nature may be prone to hurting themselves and having to restrain them (but certainly not tieing them up ) may be nessacary to protect there well being. However i dont think this would of been the case becasue you cartainly wouldnt speak to your child that way if you knew the child could not know what they were doing,you should never speak to your child like that but i dont think taht this is something taht should be reported becasue for all you know really they could be loving parents but havig a bad day it happens to the best of us and becasue there is actually no proof you really dont know by all means if you really beleave taht abuse is happening it may be worth mentioning to someone but if the swearing at the child is all that you heard and havnt heard anything since i think it is best to let it go just my opinion

[cenasangel]

are you F*****G kidding me?? NOONE should tie up or restrain a child!!! I have a son on the autism spectrum scale and no way in hell would I EVER do something like that. why is it ok to you to do it to a child with autism or ADHD???:thumbsdown::banghead:

Funny coincidence i do have a son that's been diagnosed as having classical Autism and i DO restrain him in full flight of a tantrum and i HAVE locked him in his room until his calmed down. Far better he be kept safe than end up in an emergency room because his hurt himself in an hysterical fit.

[mum2bubba]

Yeah report them and hopefully they get the help they need.

[JnA]

I had to edit this post because I don't want to get into a whole thing here.. suffice to say there is a couple of comments in this thread that are highly offensive to people who work very hard to provide children with safer, more stable environments, yet must do so within the confines of DOCS guidelines.

[Melissa1983]

Thanks for the replies


I am going to close this thread, as i don't want people attacked for their input. I have been to the house, and the children actually seem fine, so if i get another complaint i will be talking to children services.