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faroutbrusselsprout
30-06-2011, 21:07
I have literally just fallen over with what I have been researching over the last few days.
I have always been pretty passionate about preservative free and kept DS1 pretty much "number free" until he was about 18 months.
He also had lots of intolerances and allergies. Egg, dairy, wheat, citrus and nuts. He seemed to grow out of everything except nuts, which he has an epi pen for.
He still show slight intolerances to eggs and dairy.
He STILL wets the bed (he's 7). I have been reading about the link between intolerances and bed wetting and I so excited to give it a go! He also sniffs alot which also points to dairy.
I cannot imagine how happy we all will be if this shows any improvement.

I began researching all of this becasue I was actually wanting to get familiar with Sue Dengates failsafe diet for DS2! He is 2 and is absolutely out of control atm. I am at my wits end with his behaviour and am willing to give anything a go to see if I can get on top of it.

I was reading about Salicylates and I have come to the conclusion that he is ADDCITED to them. He literally screams for either sultanas, vegemite and toothpaste every day.... It's exhausting and ridiculous.
I am convinced!
I know he's also testing boundaries and is jealous of his baby sister but I am going failsafe, dairy, egg and wheat free!

Hopefully be back next week reporting my results.
Feeling so overwhelmed with it but I know I am bound to see some improvements with them both.

parentingrocks
30-06-2011, 21:14
Wow very interesting thanks for the info hood luck!

Jewels111
30-06-2011, 21:27
My cousin put her kids on a failsafe diet. Huge difference! Good luck.

Sheer Bliss
30-06-2011, 21:30
My DS1 is intolerant to salicylates, the change on him is amazing. Don't be caught out by honey or salicylates in some veges.

Good Luck.

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faroutbrusselsprout
30-06-2011, 21:37
My DS1 is intolerant to salicylates, the change on him is amazing. Don't be caught out by honey or salicylates in some veges.

Good Luck.

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Going with golden syrup, brown sugar and homemade pear jam etc..
Is there a post on the hub anywhere discussing failsafe..?
Would love to know how others cope.

Sheer Bliss
30-06-2011, 22:13
Yup. They are my staples for cooking! The butterscotch biccies in the failsafe cookbook are yummy, do a double batch.
There was a sticky I think, either in recipes or health section. Not too many eliminate salicylates though.

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Pregnor
30-06-2011, 22:20
My ds was uncontrollable at around 1, I would cry as he was uncontrollable so I tried him on it ... it turned out it be 1 food in his diet! But failsafe is definitely the way to go... I am intolerant of gluten and salicylates, but I can't give up my coffee! Ahh, ill get there one day!

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mmy2b
01-07-2011, 08:53
Can I hi-jack quickly? How quickly would a reaction to Salicylates be obvious. I just ask because my DS1 went from being a little angel yesterday to having the biggest melt down after having some chocolate dipped strawberries but it happened very quickly (like maybe an hour after having the strawberries). It was very uncharateristic of him, but he is battling a virus too so that may be it...

faroutbrusselsprout
01-07-2011, 08:58
Can I hi-jack quickly? How quickly would a reaction to Salicylates be obvious. I just ask because my DS1 went from being a little angel yesterday to having the biggest melt down after having some chocolate dipped strawberries but it happened very quickly (like maybe an hour after having the strawberries). It was very uncharateristic of him, but he is battling a virus too so that may be it...

It really varies.. A food diary is really useful to see if there is any correlation. But strawberries are very high in salicylates and an hour would be enough for a reaction.

Pregnor
01-07-2011, 10:00
Chocolate is often the cause of poor behaviour... my ds is also very sensitive to it, as little as one easter egg sent him off very quickly

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mmy2b
01-07-2011, 10:17
Thankyou for the replies, thats very interesting. I will have to look into doing a food diary for him. Thanks!

misskittyfantastico
01-07-2011, 23:20
It's a total info overload - and I've just had experience with failsafe (no dairy/gluten intolerances)

DD (nearly 6) has been failsafe for nearly three years. She now handles small amounts of moderate sals food, but amines send her batty (cocoa, cheese, pork products, bananas), plus nasty numbers. It amazes me how her reactions vary, depending on what she's had, but her biggest reactive symptoms are dreadful thrush, general rashes, pale skin, dark circles, she wets her bed, cannot concentrate, violence, huge mood swings.

White chocolate is fine for DD...actually, I've got a couple of online places that I get failsafe treats from. I'm fairly sure that linking them is okay (?) if not, sorry mods!

http://www.littlelollyshop.com/oscatalog/index.php?cPath=36&osCsid=jm4jv1erp1majm8n4l4plbf2l0
(great for easter and christmas - go the soy carob bilby:smiliedance:

http://www.hullabaloofood.com/store/index.php?_a=viewCat&catId=4
The dried pears are great for lunch boxes.

http://www.allergytrain.com.au/Home/tabid/40/List/1/Default.aspx

FOBS, I wish you the best on your journey and hope things improve for your DS.

Merla
02-07-2011, 20:01
Yep, salicylates are the nightmare in my house too.

DD was melt down toddler, everyone commented on how "intense" she was, spirited I use to call it until I realized it was actually reactive.

My 2 year old is intolerant to crap in food (additives, preservatives, colours, flavors, etc), she is also sensitive to salicylates especially in higher forms/doses. She can handle a moderate amount, but we need to limit her especially in the fruit department.

Were not full failsafe as she doesn't seem to have an issue with amides or gultimes (sp) that were aware of.

Iow sal's goes against everything I know about nutrition, so its really a struggle for me to balance her intolerance with a healthy diet.

I've created a few lists for DD. A "never" list (juice, honey, licorice, tomato paste, vinegar, dried fruit except sulfur free pears etc), "in very small amounts" (max 0.5-1 serve a day) of high fruits, high veg, herbs and spices, "in moderate amounts" of moderate sal foods, and healthy foods (like spinach) that I still want her to eat, and "unlimited" foods that contain low or neg sal's that she can eat as much as she likes. Still needs some tweeking but so far so good.