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Now I think the majority of Australian were well aware that Gillard's plan for a processing centre in East Timor was dead. But the Labor government are still in denial.
Will the latest comments from the East Timor President finally put a nail in the coffin of this farce?
"Timor-Leste [East Timor] says that we will not agree to set up an asylum-seeker processing centre in the country," Dr Ramos-Horta told Timorese journalists.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/east-timor-dumps-bilateral-talks-on-refugee-centre-20110428-1dynq.html#ixzz1Ks7QH2E7
It doesn't get any more clear than that. I can't believe how poorly this was constructed. It has made Australia look like a joke.
Pussyfoot
29-04-2011, 22:43
Not dead yet. Only under the radar.
You've only half reported.
President Ramos-Horta has also been quoted as not having turned his back on the plan and is willing to consider "a comprehensive integrated arrangement..." with the Australian government.
Ramos-Horta has been widely quoted as being supportive of further investigation. It's the Prime Minister Xanana Gusmao who has been illustrated as being very anti.
Come on, get it right.
Not dead yet. Only under the radar.
You've only half reported.
President Ramos-Horta has also been quoted as not having turned his back on the plan and is willing to consider "a comprehensive integrated arrangement..." with the Australian government.
Ramos-Horta has been widely quoted as being supportive of further investigation. It's the Prime Minister Xanana Gusmao who has been illustrated as being very anti.
Come on, get it right.
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The denial of the Labor faithful.
That quote was two weeks old and made at a time when he said he hadn't spoken with Australian officials "for months".
I'll provide you with his latest quotes again if you missed them. It's also worth noting, that these were to the Timorese journalists - so they wouldn't have been "diplomatically polite".
Timor-Leste [East Timor] says that we will not agree to set up an asylum-seeker processing centre in the country,
There should be a regional agreement and the agreement should not be made by Timor-Leste and Australia because it is not a bilateral problem.
I don't think it gets much clearer that that. But by all means, keep dreaming.:)
Pussyfoot
29-04-2011, 22:56
Oh so now I'm a Labor party member? Oh for the love of cheese....Zzzzzzz...wake me up when you are able to report accurately.
Or better yet, don't wake me up at all.
Your posts are too damn predictable...and boring.
'Night. xx
Oh so now I'm a Labor party member? Oh for the love of cheese....Zzzzzzz...wake me up when you are able to report accurately.
I never said you were a Labor party member. I said you were faithful.
What may I ask was inaccurate with my posts?
sandy cheeks
29-04-2011, 23:11
I thought this was dead ages ago.
Why should they deal with our problem?
Sadly enough I think we need Howard back (I never even liked him but he knew how to get the job done) Labor pussy foots around and is trying to be nice and please everyone (never gunna happen) and the whole setting alight the detention centre just proves how weak they think our govt is and how little they respect our country.
I know this sounds harsh but do we honestly want people in our country who set our buildings alight? This is vandal behavior and I don’t think it happened anywhere near as much when Howard was in power.
I just wish they would bring in Hockey, theres no way I will ever vote for Abbot.
I know this sounds harsh but do we honestly want people in our country who set our buildings alight? This is vandal behavior and I don’t think it happened anywhere near as much when Howard was in power.
I don't think we want these people either. Bowen has to be tough with these people.
THREE detainees accused of attempting gang-rape of a fellow asylum-seeker last week may become the first test of proposed "character" rules.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/detainee-rape-claim-tests-policy/story-fn59niix-1226047268716
This behaviour it unacceptable.
Atlantic Puffin
30-04-2011, 09:18
Nothing like a good political argument at 9am on a Saturday morning to wake me up!
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Not dead yet. Only under the radar.
You've only half reported.
President Ramos-Horta has also been quoted as not having turned his back on the plan and is willing to consider "a comprehensive integrated arrangement..." with the Australian government.
Ramos-Horta has been widely quoted as being supportive of further investigation. It's the Prime Minister Xanana Gusmao who has been illustrated as being very anti.
Come on, get it right.
And just in case you missed this one from today.
Ramos-Horta's office on Friday clarified Australian media reports that he had rejected Canberra's proposal, saying it was a matter of ongoing regional discussion.
A spokesman for the president told AAP that while East Timor would not agree to a regional centre on a bilateral basis, Dr Ramos-Horta had not rejected the concept altogether.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/timor-pm-cool-on-australia-detention-plan-20110430-1e1u7.html
Is it dead yet pussyfoot?
Phyllis Stein
30-04-2011, 17:15
I don't think we want these people either. Bowen has to be tough with these people.
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This behaviour it unacceptable.
I don't think you'll find anyone of any political persuasion who would disagree. Rape is incomparable to vandalism.
As for processing of asylum seeker claims, I honestly think neither major party is any better than the other on this.
As for processing of asylum seeker claims, I honestly think neither major party is any better than the other on this.
I disagree.
Things will take longer when there are over 6000 people waiting. When you only have a couple of hundred in detention, the processing will be much quicker.
Is the PNG Solution the admission that the East Timor solution is dead? They haven't said it yet, but this is definately an admission of failure.
This commentary sums things up quite nicely.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/commentary/pm-is-dodging-hard-decision-on-refugees/story-e6frgd0x-1226051501510
There should be one very good outcome, however, from the PNG version of the Gillard government's Pacific Solution. And that is that it can finally bury the East Timor proposal.
This is a very important foreign policy development. It is not only that the East Timor proposal has been a growing embarrassment it has also sucked the life out of Australian diplomacy in Southeast Asia in the first year of the Gillard government.
Julia Gillard has been obliged to raise the nonsensical proposal with Southeast Asian leaders, wasting time and energy and convincing those leaders that she is not a serious person.
Now, at least, that can surely be dispensed with.
Sorry to post a third post in a row, but this one also flies in the face of those who say that illegal imigrants "don't throw thier passports away".
New figures obtained from the Department of Immigration and Citizenship revealed that 5213 people arriving illegally between 2008 and 2010 had first flown to Indonesia before boarding a boat to Australia.
But only 21 of those people still had passports with them by the time they were intercepted in Australian waters.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/most-asylum-sekers-to-australia-dump-their-passports/story-e6freuzr-1226051432327
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