**Calling all Adelaide ART/IVF ladies - Thread 13** [Archive] - Page 2

Marzi

21-02-2011, 07:51

Hi girls, not a great one from me today....
I was off all week after trying to return to work....but was sent home after another anxiety attach not even an hour into shift. Took them 2 hours to calm me down enough for me to drive home (I didn't want to be driven home again).
Lucky the manager has been thro this before but needed 4 months and Prozac to help her out.
I'm trying to do it with no drugs.
I'm going to go in tomorrow after a relaxing massage. Work offered me as long as I wanted off, but I'd rather go in earlier so it dosnt build to an irrational response.
Did any of that make sense?

Anyway, that seems like nothing now....

Early sunday morning, I get a phone call.
Dad says he has bad news
My cousin was shot and killed in afghanastan.
My family is (I can't seem to find words here)

I can only begin to imagine what his sisters and parents are going thro.

He loved what he did, and always beloved that with their help, the local people would have a betterr life. One free from random suicide bombers striking while they shopped at the market.
He was truly a great kid, 10 years my junior, what a waste.

laurie7

21-02-2011, 09:10

Oh my gosh Marzi I am soooo sorry for your families loss. I can not imagine what you all must be going through :hugs: :hugs: :hugs: :hugs: I feel terrible writing my good news now......

Ill come back later today. That news is so sad :hugs:

Livvyloo

21-02-2011, 09:54

Marzi, that is so incredibly sad, so so sorry to hear it :( :hugs:

Livvyloo

21-02-2011, 09:56

morning all, welcome to another week!

had my first acupuncture session with lea this morning, everyone was right, she is lovely.

I don't know if i'm just being a sceptic but even though i KNOW there have been lots of studies linking ivf success with acupuncture i'm finding it REALLY hard not to think to myself "this is just kooky hocus pocus". I want to continue with it because I don't think it can hurt, but with so many money going to IVF already and so much time spent out of work because of it.. it's hard to justify doing additional therapies if you're not 100% sure they're going to be beneficial. Can sommmmeone give me a pep talk about acupuncture and reassure me I'm not throwing our money down the drain??? :)

jayemkayare

21-02-2011, 12:22

Marzi - I am truly sorry to hear about your day. Please take the time you need to work through everyting. Take care of yourself. I am deeply sadened by the news of your cousin. What our troops are doing and trying to achieve over there is inspirational. What they give up to fight for us and the rights of others is just inconcievable to me. My thoughts are with yourself and the fine young mans family.

Livvy - I felt exactly the same about accupuncture, what the hell are needles placed in my skin going to do. But the cycle I had it was my best cycle. I had a patient once that did accupuncture for very bad chronic back pain, they were on so many pain killers they could barely function, accupuncture really helped them, they were able to take much less medication and managed to regain some independence. I know this is completely different but it's an example of a measurable outcome from accupuncture. Measuring efficacy of accupuncture in ivf is near impossible because you can't simulate two cycles that are identicle, but I do think that it has it's place. Not sure if this helps or not????

MLZH

21-02-2011, 13:14

Hi all a quick note to let everyone know i had epu this morning with a result of 19 eggs.. Just home recovering.. Not in pain so hope to stay that way. Keep you all posted and good luck to evryone cycling this month:babydust1::babydust1::babydust1::fingerscros sed:

laurie7

21-02-2011, 13:34

Livvy I guess its one of those things where you just never know but it cant hurt. I think I have told you before how 2 friends of mine did an IVF cycle for the first time and it didnt work then they both saw Lea (they dont know each other) and both had success, thats enough for me! Try to relax though when she is doing it and leaves you there for awhile as the more you relax the better of it will be....apparently....even if you fall alseep! :laughing: I have my ET appointments booked in for Wednesday, one before and one after!

MLZH 19 eggs thats a huge amount!! :smiliedance: rest up, yesturday was the worst pain for me and my ET was on Friday so it could take a couple of days to fully show. :fingerscrossed:

AFM we had the call this morning that all 5 fertilised eggies are doing well so they will take us out to blastocyst, which means Wednesday is transfer day!! Im trying to be prepared by saying stage 1 was the injecting, stage 2 was the egg collection and now stage 3 is the transfer. Anything could still happen as I have never ever been pregnant before after all these years of trying so my body may reject it, but also trying to be positive and put posivite vibes out there, its our turn surely, we just needed a bit of help from medical science! :hyper::freakingout::goodvibes::smiliedance:

:babydust1::babydust1::babydust1: and :fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed: to us all as always! xx

Livvyloo

21-02-2011, 15:02

Livvy - I felt exactly the same about accupuncture, what the hell are needles placed in my skin going to do. But the cycle I had it was my best cycle. I had a patient once that did accupuncture for very bad chronic back pain, they were on so many pain killers they could barely function, accupuncture really helped them, they were able to take much less medication and managed to regain some independence. I know this is completely different but it's an example of a measurable outcome from accupuncture. Measuring efficacy of accupuncture in ivf is near impossible because you can't simulate two cycles that are identicle, but I do think that it has it's place. Not sure if this helps or not????

Thanks for your response :) it IS helpful! I find that even though I'm a person who is totally open to new things and the "chance" that something might help, I can also be really sceptical. This morning while I was there I honestly felt a bit stupid, thinking.. this can't possibly help. I'm of course willing to give it the benefit of the doubt because I've certainly read studies about it helping and lots of people have only good things to say about using it as a complementary therapy, but I just feel a little bit like im lying there having someone slap a fish over my abdomen and expecting it will help me get pregnant. Lol!!

Livvyloo

21-02-2011, 15:08

MLZH - BRILLIANT result, 19 eggs is a great amount!! I remember being super pleased on my first stim cycle when I got 14 and heard the person next to me say she got 3. You are just an egg making machine!! hehe

Laurie - You're totally right, it is a case of 'you never know' I think with this acupuncture thing for me. I'm not doing it because i fervently believe it will be the difference between a BFN and a BFP for me (although it would be nice if did work out to be that simple!) but I do feel like a little extra time and money spent on something that COULD help is worth it if I see results. I have to admit, I did struggle to relax while I was there this morning, I could hear trains going past and phones ringing and her talking to the person in the other room and my mind was going a million miles an hour! Lol. She seemed lovely though and to really know her stuff. I've got another appointment on Friday next week, all going well by then I should have started a bleed from going off the pill and should be on the meds to build up my lining for my next FET. Great news about your five blasties!!! Bet you can't WAIT until your transfer and to be officially PUPO!!! So exciting. It's a good way to break it down into stages like you're doing, one step at a time :)

MLZH

21-02-2011, 15:29

Livvyloo

21-02-2011, 15:36

Thankyou Livvy yes well i had thought that was standard those numbers BUT maybe not yes is pretty exciting.. yes am lucky have a great ovarian reserve they said so that is also not too common.. yes we are hoping for one at least if not two as having two embies put bak prob on fri or satur even they won't know til tommor or wed.... Good luck with the fet cycle.. i also go to lea prob agree not most relaxing place with trains etc going past, but nothing to lose out of it but agree its pricey and just feels like you are continually paying out money doesn't it.. Its all worth it when you hold that gorgeous little person at the end of it all.:):babydust1:..

Definitely would be all worth it in the end with the right result absolutely!!

19 is definitely a great number. Like I said, I was stoked with my 14 from my stim cycle and felt like the biggest egg producer in the world lol, but you have me beat ;) ;) Hopefully you get LOTS that fertilise!! I ended up with 10 out of the 14 fertilise which I was pretty happy with, I imagine you'll get over 15 probably!! :) YAY! Not long til your transfer, so exciting :)

Thanks for the luck, really dying to get back into it, hate this 2 weeks on the pill, seems like such a waste of time!!

digbyleigh

21-02-2011, 17:17

Marzi.....I'm so sorry to hear about your cousin. My thoughts & prayers are with you & your family xxx

patsgirl

21-02-2011, 17:43

Marzi, that's terrible news, I'm so sorry for you and your family.

MLZH- Wow, 19! I'm surprised you're not sore! Fingers crossed for lots of embies :fingerscrossed:

Laurie- Great news on your embies, sounds good for Wed.

AFM- I'm going stir crazy during my first ever IVF TWW. I really don't feel any different, not pregnant at all. The only thing I have is bigger, sore boobs, but I know this is the progesterone as it started before the transfer. Oh well, time will tell. I've actually decided to take some annual leave this week, as I find that I can cope better when I'm at home. My job is very boring, and it gives me way too much time to think about things, whereas at home I have lots of things to occupy me. Looking forward to seeing DH a bit; he works night shift including over the weekend, so I generally only see him for one day and one night per week.

laurie7

21-02-2011, 19:15

Oh I have just heard another bit of interesting information...apparently it was in the papers!? 2 people have told me about it so I thought I would pass on...it said that for those doing IVF, to watch funny movies/shows after their ET and there is evidence to show that those who did the chances of the embie sticking is far greater than those who didnt watch a funny movie/show.

Hmmmm this is another acupunture thing I think, although its free! haha

Maybe Im just loopy but we have come this far so Ill be watching nothing but funny stuff on Wednesday afternoon! haha

:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing: :laughing::laughing::laughing:

Winzy

21-02-2011, 21:40

Marzi: sending you a massive hug my dear I'm really sad to hear about your cousin and feel for you and your family at this time. Horrible news to hear of a someone taken so young and clearly such a lovely guy.

I'm also thinking if you as you battle anxiety - make sure u take the time you need - have u heard of the linden method? My dh had quite debilitating anxiety and it helped him. Ssometimes drugs can help just break the anxiety chemical circle too.. Good on u for going the natural method but don't be afraid to use drugs if u have to they helped me and my best mate get out of a massive black hole and we're both off them now. I think you are one amazing girl who has been through so much hard stuff. With time you will get through this and things will get better. Sending you lots and lots of love xxxxx

Livvyloo

22-02-2011, 08:01

AFM- I'm going stir crazy during my first ever IVF TWW. I really don't feel any different, not pregnant at all. The only thing I have is bigger, sore boobs, but I know this is the progesterone as it started before the transfer. Oh well, time will tell. I've actually decided to take some annual leave this week, as I find that I can cope better when I'm at home. My job is very boring, and it gives me way too much time to think about things, whereas at home I have lots of things to occupy me. Looking forward to seeing DH a bit; he works night shift including over the weekend, so I generally only see him for one day and one night per week.

Oh the TWW is so hard!! Don't worry about feeling normal though, honestly in my last cycle where I got a BFP but had the m/c I was worried the whole time that I felt too "normal" to be pregnant even though I was! It was truly only in hindsight that I thought, hang on, this happened and that happened.. I even started a post here in one of the forums called "no symptoms but BFP??" lol. The only thing I had was cramping 2 days after the transfer and sore boobs from about 5 or 6 days afterwards.. but like you, my boobs did start getting a bit sore when I started on the progesterone so I discounted it.

Good idea taking some annual leave though, it's worth doing. When I next get to my transfer I'm going to take a couple of days off work straight afterwards to give myself some relaxing time.

jayemkayare

22-02-2011, 08:37

MLZH - 19 Eggs!!!!!! That's amazing:yelclap:. Fingers crossed for many wonderful good quality embies. I'm dying to hear how many you get.

Laurie - 5 great embies. That is wonderful :cheerleader2:

Patsgirl - I found the TWW easier when I wasn't at work. My easiest moments were when I was reading or watching telly. If I was doing anything else, even at work, it consumed me. I just couldn't concentrate at work. I'm a chemo nurse so not concentrating really scared me. I think getting the annual leave was a good idea. I hope the rest of it goes a bit quicker for you. Sending you lost of sticky :goodvibes: and :babydust1::babydust1::babydust1:

Livvyloo

22-02-2011, 09:58

Ugh - i feel really depressed today. I'm just feeling really down about this whole IVF process and how long I have to wait until I have another FET (if my frosties even survive the thaw!!). I just don't know how to get through all this waiting without being miserable! :(

MLZH

22-02-2011, 13:39

Livvyloo

22-02-2011, 13:59

Hi everyone an update.. We did split insemination for something new. 7 out 10 fert by icsi and the remaining ones well 5 must've been immature and 4 were done ivf with 1 taking which we did as a test really to see if we could do the ivf instead of icsi.. so 8 to play around with and fri for et at this stage so as long as 2 good embies thats all we ask.. good result we thought.:cheerleader2:don't know how others see this or how is comparable to others.. good luck all hope all cyclists going well..:fingerscrossed::babydust1::babydust1:

That's a great result I think! I'd be happy with that if I were you. Good idea to do half ICSI and half IVF just to see what happens. We did that too, my FS said it was standard at repromed to do that, but i dont know if it's just standard with HIS regimes specificially or whether it's standard with all the doctors there.

In terms of comparisons, like I said the other day, my first stim cycle I got 14 eggs and 9 fertilised.. so only slightly different from your result, a few less eggs to begin with but one more fertilising initially. Out of that 9 though 3 ended up not being good enough to use or freeze so out of the original 14 from EPU there were 6 usable embryos. At the time I was told that was excellent and a really good sign for us going forward that we could produce excellent embryo's, so if I were you, I'd be really happy so far.

YAY for friday! GL!!! :highfive:

Noodling

23-02-2011, 10:53

Livvyloo

23-02-2011, 12:38

Hi Guys, I've been on puregon 150 since sat and start orgalutron on thurs, needles are not something I am getting used to...I've always looked away when I've ever had blood or needles now I'm jabbing. Sigh, it's going to be hard to get through this. Dh can't help as he's very likely to pass out...he's a lovely supportive husband but doesn't respond well to medical things. I'm looking forward to my scan/blood test on fri as I'd like to have the et done on the 28th rather then the second...my 32 birthday. Had planned to have a pedicure-massage on the second with mum, crossing fingers et is the 28th!

Well done getting through the needles - I can't imagine what it must be like for those who are a bit needle-phobic! I'm so glad that needles have never bothered me, I felt like the jabbing stage was a total breeze - and I loved how proactive I felt the whole time, always something to do!

Hope you get lucky and don't have to have your ET on your birthday, although it could be a good luck sign if you do :)

Livvyloo

23-02-2011, 12:39

AHHHH another friend announced a pregnancy today!!! Will it ever stop!!??! :(

Noodling

23-02-2011, 13:35

Livvyloo.......Send you a hug,:hugs: maybe a shedded tear too as I feel like this road is a tough one. I really wish that there was a magic pill that would help us.....

Noodling

23-02-2011, 13:40

Could I ask who here is going through Repromed? Which doctor? What meds on cycle? Doing anything else which may help....which does not involve needles?:eek:

laurie7

23-02-2011, 13:50

Hi Girls,
Well we had our transfer today and I cried.....haha as soon as I saw the embie on the screen the waterworks started! The nurses were good and supportive though.

So out of the 5 - 2 were in great condition and far advanced for day 5 so they put the best one in and the other will be frozen. The other 3 are lagging behind a bit so we got told to call tomorrow afternoon to see how they are doing and if they are able to freeze.

So very happy with happy tears! :goodvibes:

Noodling we are with Flinders sorry and I am doing acupuncture along with the cycle, sorry that involves needles though.

Livvy Im so sorry :hugs: :hugs:try to look for the positives for you.

MLZH that is great news! :fingerscrossed: and :babydust1: for Friday!

:wave: to everyone else I hope you are all well.

:babydust1::babydust1::babydust1: and :fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed: to us all as always xx

Livvyloo

23-02-2011, 14:38

Could I ask who here is going through Repromed? Which doctor? What meds on cycle? Doing anything else which may help....which does not involve needles?:eek:

I'm with repromed, seeing dr radesic. In my antagonist stim cycle I used the gonal F pen and orgalutran for the trigger (if memory serves) but i can't remember what else. Not doing anything else (aside from acupuncture but that's needles!!) to help really aside from regular healthy lifestyle.

Livvyloo

23-02-2011, 14:41

Laurie - congrats for being PUPO! So exciting :) It is a really emotional thing when you finally have a transfer, it feels so good that you're in with a chance! YAY! Fingers crossed for you hun. Thanks for the hugs too, having a rough day, so many ppl pregnant around me, it's really starting to weigh me down and make me feel terrible.

Noodling - thanks for the hugs, it is such a tough road, i wish there was a magic pill too! I'm so sick of being the only one out of all my friends and family that can't seem to get pregnant :(

MLZH

23-02-2011, 17:03

Livvyloo

23-02-2011, 18:13

Hi everyone i just had a call our ET is at 10:15am Friday so will be exciting... Anyone have suggestions or stories about what they have done or heard is proven for helping after... I am seeing Lea Papworth before and after transfer ..... I also have a pineapple to eat which i have heard is good.... Let hope 9th March is a good day with bfp for me and everyone else cycling.... I have said the daily St Gerard prayer which has helped in lots of other ways thru peoples' lives i know..:fingerscrossed::babydust1::babydust1::babyd ust1::babydust1::babydust1:to me and you all out there for lots of bfp in 2011.....

YAY! WOOHOO congratulations!!

Last month when I got my (short lived) BFP I ate a few slices of fresh pineapple every day for the first three days (including the core - important!!), and also ate walnuts which are rich in omega 3 which is apparently vital for implantation, I also took omega 3 tablets (i don't eat fish so I'm probably lacking in it and wanted extra as I thought it might help!). I ate lots of other fresh fruit and veg too every day, I upped my intake more than I ever had in other cycles. It was the first time I'd tried the pineapples and walnuts though and my first ever BFP so I kind of think they might have contributed. Maybe it's just a coincidence, I'm not sure. Good luck with your acupuncture on the day too :) I plan to do the same for my next transfer as I just started seeing Lea too :)

Good luuuckkkk

moomechanic

23-02-2011, 18:31

Yay Laurie on PUPO!!! welcome to the 2ww (pssst it really drags!!!!)

digbyleigh

23-02-2011, 18:34

Laurie.....congratulations & YAY for being PUPO!! :) have everything crossed for you xxx

Lily..great to hear it's all fInally happening!! Yay for jabbing, keeping everything crossed with Dr T's new protocol you hit the jackpot this cycle. Keeping everything crossed & lots of baby dust & prayers coming your way xxxxx

Hi to everyone else, wishing you all success with your current cycle (or upcoming if on a break) hanging out for you ALL to join us in the other ad thread VERY soon xxxx

Ps just a quick one to Rell if you happen to be reading. Hope all is going well. By memory I'm guessing your only a few weeks away from meeting your babies?? Wishing you & babies all the best xxxx

rell27

23-02-2011, 22:27

Hello Ladies

and Hi Digby!!! you get a gold star for remembering!!!

i just want to apologise that this post is about being preg/birth, i hope it doesn't upset anyone too much

officially i have 4 weeks to go, BUT I found out today that it is not that long for me to wait now, to be precise we are getting induced on monday night, and get to meet my babies on TUESDAY!!!!!!!!!

unfortunately they are coming early(36+5) because I have got Cholestasis - I am taking tablets for it, and it was working but my last test showed that my levels were rising again, also have got gestational diabetes but that is under control, but had an internal today and i am 2cm dilated already

so girls when(not if WHEN) you get your BFP's and later on in your preg about 3rd trimester if you get really itchy(and it doesn't just have to be your hands and feet, cause that is what you will find on google when you go searching Cholestasis, trust me i am talking from experience HA HA HA!!!) make sure you tell your doc!!!! it may not just be a part of being pregnant.
When we had that hot sticky spell, i thought it was just a combo of the weather and skin stretching and clothes annoying me - so mentioned it they did a simple blood test and my levels came back at 79, so right there and then i got hospitalised for 4 nights as your levels should be under 8!!!!!!!!!!!!
not trying to scare anyone, just something else to be aware of.

so as soon as i can, i will let you know what our little bundles of joy are, they are non identical twins - so any combination is possible
when we told Joshy this afternoon he said "Mummy when you go to hospital for a sleep over again to get our babies - can you get me some more little butters and jams?" the things that are important to a 3.5yr old!!!!!!!!!!!

good luck to everyone who is PUPO at the moment, stay strong to everyone in the dreaded 2WW, and :babydust1::babydust1::babydust1::babydust1: to all :fingerscrossed:

Lily - Best of luck with this cycle - i hope the new strategy is the right way for you.
Winzy hope all is going well and you are having a problem free pregnancy
Mummy Again - think of you often and good luck for 2 weeks time!!
Digby - make sure you keep getting your nanna naps in before work

take care and wish everyone the best of luck on their journeys :)

narelle

MummyAgain

24-02-2011, 14:53

Hi Rell - nice to hear from you!! Next week, how exciting. All the best - don't forget to let us know :hyper:

Best of luck to all those cycling - we are sure to get a few BFP's!!

Another thing "they" say is having eating kiwi fruit - I saw pineapple cores mentioned. I must admit I did the kiwi fruit thing only because I like them, not that I though they would do anything, but you never know. I did ask my FS about it and she said it was a lot of crap, but I figured it wouldn't hurt at least!! Intact Colostum is the other thing you can take (bovine, not human!). Some FS's and Lea think it is fab. I have no idea if it does anything, and it is a little bit pricey but both DH and I did go on it for a while.

AFM, well my placenta previa means I can't now deliver at Burnside and have to go to Calvary as they have an adult ICU there. Mine is all happening on the 16th March so not long now. I'll be nearly 39wks then :hyper::freakingout:- unless of course things start happening earlier!!

lilybaby

24-02-2011, 19:23

:computerprobs::computerprobs::computerprobs:, I just wrote a really long post and then it disappeared into computer land. In short,
Laurie - congrats and good luck :fingerscrossed:

Rell - lovely to hear from you, I cant wait for your announcement next week :smiliedance:

Digby and Mummyagain - lovely to hear from you both. Would love to catch up really soon. :) MA good luck on the 16th, 2 of my friends have had bubs at Calvary and were happy there. I hope you are too :fingerscrossed: :goodvibes: Digby thank you for your well wishes. You're very sweet. :hugs:

laurie7

24-02-2011, 20:01

Hi Girls,

Lilybaby I hate it when that happens!:freakingout:

MLZH how did you go today?! Lea really settled my nerves before we went in for the transfer, thank goodness! :fingerscrossed:

Livvy and Mummyagain I actually went out and bought walnuts and pineapple today at lunch time. Am yet to actually eat any but its there! Ill start tomorrow. I have read elsewhere that it is also good so why not! I might get some kiwi fruit now too haha!

Rell and Digby good to hear from you both. I hope you are both well!

:wave: to everyone else.

Has anyone else who has seen Lea received an information sheet with recommendations for do's and dont's with foods etc etc and on it it says to have "special cuddles" so the body wont see the embie as a foreign thing and get rid of it? Has anyone tried this, we are kind of a bit scared to as the clinic didnt say to? :confused:

:babydust1::babydust1::babydust1: and :fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed: for us all! xx

Winzy

24-02-2011, 21:34

Laurie: Hi there girly! Go for it on the kiwi and walnuts they have heaps of good vitamins for the emby and are some of the foods you should eat when preggie so sounds wonderful to me! Congrats on the PUPO again, and in terms of the recommendations to DTD we got that same sheet from Lea but decided not to - just too paranoid (and sore from the OHSS) so didnt end up getting back into the rudey dudey till about 12 weeks!!! That being said I know of other ladies who did follow this advice and got their BFPs so I guess if you feel the need go for it! :hoponbed: Also thought Id send you some more of this stuff ... hoping and praying for you matey! :babydust1::babydust1::babydust1::goodvibes::babyd ust1::fingerscrossed::babydust1:

Lily: Hi there! Great to see you have started cycling again on this new regime have everything crossed for you too my dear :fingerscrossed::babydust1::babydust1::goodvibes:: babydust1::babydust1::babydust1: will be sending lots of sticky vibes, prayers and baby dust your way xxx

Rell: Hi there! How exciting that you get to meet your bubbies on monday! Thats great that they caught that condition. Good to know that there are lots of Drs and nurses who are on the ball. Best wishes for Monday :smiliedance: Had my 25.3 week checkup today and all is well so far.

patsgirl

24-02-2011, 22:10

Hi everyone,

Firstly, thanks to everyone that has offered their support and positive vibes, although I haven't always responded personally, please know that it really does mean a lot.

Well......my news is not good I'm afraid. I started spotting on Tuesday, and that has slowly progressed to AF late this afternoon. This has truly been the hardest and most devastating TWW ever. DH and I are shattered to say the least. Of course I knew that it was only a 50:50 chance that it would work the first time, but I was really hoping that the gods were smiling on us; not this time :no:
I have to have next month off to give my body time to recover, and because we didn't have any embryos to freeze I have to do another full cycle in April.

Best of luck to everyone else in the TWW, I really hope you get a better result than me, especially my cycle buddy Moo. I hope this is the one part of the cycle where our results will be different :)

moomechanic

25-02-2011, 05:18

Big hugs Patsgirl, I'm so sorry xx

Livvyloo

25-02-2011, 08:36

Livvy and Mummyagain I actually went out and bought walnuts and pineapple today at lunch time. Am yet to actually eat any but its there! Ill start tomorrow. I have read elsewhere that it is also good so why not! I might get some kiwi fruit now too haha!

Has anyone else who has seen Lea received an information sheet with recommendations for do's and dont's with foods etc etc and on it it says to have "special cuddles" so the body wont see the embie as a foreign thing and get rid of it? Has anyone tried this, we are kind of a bit scared to as the clinic didnt say to? :confused:

Good work - I honestly don't know if it makes a difference but last cycle was the first time I'd given that a go and I did get a BFP so you just never know! As it turns out I was eating kiwifruit too, but that's just a coincidence, I hadn't heard the thing about kiwifruit possibly helping! :) GOOD LUCK!

Re "special cuddles" (lol) the brochure I have from repromed and the embryologist that I discussed it with there both say it's fine to have sex after your transfer, and the brochure says "it may even be beneficial". Both of my previous transfers DH and I had sex at some point during the TWW and one was a BFN and the other was a BFP so I'm not sure that it makes a difference :) I've never seen one of lea's brochures cos this is the first time I've had acupuncture but I suppose that makes sense!!

Livvyloo

25-02-2011, 08:42

jayemkayare

25-02-2011, 09:04

Noodling – Well done with your injections. Have a needle phobia and still doing them yourself, very brave!

Laurie – PUPO, congratulations. I got a little teary on my first transfer too, so your not alone. 2 Great embies, that is wonderful. And LOL about the “special cuddles” you know it actually took me a while to figure out what you were on a about, I was thinking cuddling up on the couch or something. But I get it now. I’m not sure if it is good or bad though, have read so much on both sides. So if you feel like it then why not.

MLZH – Thinking of you for your transfer on Friday. My Accupuncturist said to eat blueberries. Could she suggest a more expensive fruit????

Rell – it is always great to hear success stories. Congratulations, I can’t imagine how exciting it would be. Getting tingles down my back thinking of you holding your new babies J

Patsgirl – I’ve been thinking about you girls in your TWW. Sending you lots of cyber hugs. Make sure you and DH do something nice together, cry lots and then look forward. Despite the outcome it was a very positive first cycle. You got great embies and quality is so important. Take care of yourself hon.

MLZH

25-02-2011, 14:48

Livvyloo

25-02-2011, 14:53

Hi all well i had 2 embies put back this morning, had acupuncture with Lea before and after... At this stage may have 1 or 2 frozen but we don't mind as we prefer the fresh cycles so here we go on the 2ww ,, yay:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::babydust1: good luck to you all going along with me.. Have had funny twinges but sure its too early.. never know haha

Congrats on being PUPO!! YAYYY!

Don't totally discount those early twinges by the way. I had twinges starting on the day of and the night of my last transfer and I did end up with a BFP so it could be a good sign :) :)

jayemkayare

25-02-2011, 15:09

MLZH - :smiliedance: Sending you lots and lots of :babydust1::babydust1::babydust1::babydust1: and sticky :goodvibes: Keeping those:fingerscrossed: for you.

lilybaby

25-02-2011, 17:21

MLZH - congrats on being PUPO, wishing you lots of luck. :babydust1::fingerscrossed::goodvibes::babydust1:

Patsgirl - I'm so sorry, it sucks big time. I hope that you and your DH take care of each other this weekend. :hugs::hugs:

laurie7

26-02-2011, 13:58

Patgirl Im so sorry :hugs::hugs::hugs: to you xx

MLZH congratson being PUPO!! :fingerscrossed:

Rell its great to hear success stories, it makes it far more real!

:wave: to everyone else I hope you're all well!

AFM I have been getting pains in my lower stomach this morning and on and off this arvo. I had to sit down this morning because of them, I wasnt in agony but there was a pain, have been lying down ever since. Has anyone else had a pain around their lower stomach about 3 days after a transfer? Its only on my right side too....I hope its nothing to be worried about. Im also sooo tired so have been sleeping on and off but that could just be because Im knackered from everything happening this week.

As always :babydust1::babydust1::babydust1: and :fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed: to us all! xx

digbyleigh

26-02-2011, 18:37

Laurie.....sorry I can't really help you as far as symptoms go. As you had a stim cycle that maybe why as probably too early for pregnancy signs. Keeping everything crossed for you xxxx

Pat.....Im so so sorry AF came. It totally SUX when that happens no other way to describe it!! Unfortunatly it sometimes takes a few or more cycles for us to reach our BFP's. In the meantime please know where all here for you to get you through this tough period & will continue to hang around until we hear the good news of your BFP!! (which will happen, it's just unfortunate none of us ever know how long) sending hugs your way xxxx

Rell.....oh I'm so glad you were reading :) how exciting Monday hey!! Wishing you the best & looking forward to hearing your news! If u like send me a pm on f/bk & I can pass on the news to everyone on here!!

Mummyagain......your booked in 2 days before DD's 12th birthday so I will definatly have no trouble remembering the date! Calvery is lovely (if I was going private would be my choice of hospitals)

Oh & to all who are interested about the whole kiwi thing!! During my TWW with our successful cycle we happened to have heaps of kiwi fruit at home at the time. DH is the food shopper in our family & last year for a while they were going really cheap & DH bought heaps of them & my mum who goes to the gepps cross markets gave us a heap also. Anyway, not sure if a coincidence or not but this spurt of kiwis in our household was round the same time as TWW & I remember everytime I went past the fruit bowl I would grab one and gobble it up! Lol! (not the skin though) I then read somewhere on b/hub how someone had reccomended eating LOTS of kiwi fruit whilst on the TWW so.......I just kept on eating em' & it worked :)
On previous cycles I ate a few here & there but no way near as many as this cycle!! May have been just a coincidence or maybe it really did help implantation??? Well, worth a try anyway girls & full of vitamin c so good for us in any case :)

AFM......had a bad day in a way but also very thankful. DD & I were going to a friends to pick her up & go out to lunch. Well, I parked the car on the street & Approx 2 mins after we got out the car & were walking to my friends we heard a terrible crash. Going back to see what it was he'd hit my car! Thank goodness we weren't in the car. I'd hate to think if anything happened to DD or if it may have put me into early labour as the impact was very strong. So I can really thank our lucky stars!! It looks like the car will be written off although DH & I hope they can fix it. Now it's just an inconvinience as I don't hv a loan car & insurance comp doesn't think I'll get one! Still need to somehow get DD to school & after school sports & I need to get to work??? Ah well, at least where all ok though that's the main thing.

lilybaby

26-02-2011, 20:37

Laurie - fingerscrossed that the cramps are a good sign. Unfortunately or fortunately :confused: cramps can be a good or a bad sign depending on who you talk to. Also, if you are taking crinone it can give you cramping, aches and pains. The 2ww certainly is a confusing time and we all tend to analyse every twinge. Unfortunately as I just mentionned the crinone (if you are on it) and also pregnyl give you symptoms that mimic early pregnancy - it really does your head in. :fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed: that your cramps are a good sign and that you'll be celebrating when you have your bt in a week or so. :babydust1::goodvibes::babydust1: Wishing you lots of luck for a lovely BFP.

Digby - OMG hun, I read about your accident on fb. I'm so glad that you and DD are safe. :hugs::hugs: Thank goodness you had already gotten out of the car. Did the d1ckhead who hit your car leave their details? I so hope that their insurance covers it and you arent out of pocket. Take care hun and once again I'm so glad you are ok. xxxx :hugs:

digbyleigh

26-02-2011, 21:41

Thanks Lilly.....I do feel very fortunate we weren't still in the car. Yes I got all the details off the guy & thankfully he's got full comp cover phew!! He said his seat belt came undone & had to reclip & that's how he hit my car. Yeah right lol!! I think the only problem where going to have is if the car is to get written off getting a loan car until the payout is through & we can buy another. Lucky DD has a pupil free day mon & I'm off so will see what I can sort out then but don't like our chances :(
Anyway, eneough of me, how long until you start having scans to see how your eggies are going?? Hope all is going well this cycle mate, I think about you often & I know when we hear the news of your BFP finally I'm pretty sure I'll be jumping up & down in excitement for you xxxx

jaytee

27-02-2011, 16:23

Hi ladies,

I am new to this thread but not new to bubhub. long story but i used to be on here as 'jussi'. anyway, we have just been referred to the FS last thursday after 2 1/2 years since we started our journey. We have been told IUI or IVF are our only options, but i guess the appointment with the FS on 9th march will confirm exactly what we are looking at going through.

Anyway, my story is this: started TTC sep 2008, in Dec 2008 we saw the GP and she ordered an ultrasound and a semen analysis for my DH. Results came back and there was something foreign growing on what appeared to be my ovary. DH came back with poor morphology of his sperm. I was referred to GC, who performed a laparoscopy and discovered i had a fibroid tumour, which was growing on the outside of my uterus, as well as endometriosis. I was put on Zoladex for 4 months to shrink the tumour, which was operated on at the end of the Zoladex treatment. 3 months after that, another laparoscopy to remove adhesions from the fibroid removal surgery and more endometriosis removed. 6 months later we are still not pregnant and have been referred to the IVF people. We will be seeing Fertility SA. And so our IVF journey begins...

So that's me...guess I'll go read this thread from the beginning now...

Livvyloo

28-02-2011, 08:45

Laurie - sounds a little like the pains I had at about 2 days past transfer in my BFP cycle. Promising!!! Could be implantation!

jayemkayare

28-02-2011, 11:57

Laurie – Hopefully those cramps/twinges are a good sign :fingerscrossed:. Unfortunately we’ll have to wait and see :freakingout:. Sending you lots of sticky :goodvibes: I drove myself crazy in the TWW noticing every twinge, it is awful!!

Digby – Really glad that you are o.k. Hopefully you don’t have too many problems getting the loan car. It would make things awfully difficult without one.

Jaytee – welcome to this thread :wave:, It’s a shame you have to join us but hopefully we can make your journey a little better.

MLZH – thinking of you too in your TWW. :babydust1::babydust2::babydust1:

As Always, I'm thinking of you all whatever you are all up to.

digbyleigh

28-02-2011, 14:07

Jaytee.....hi & a warm welcome to this thread. Hope you managed to cope ok whilst on Zoladex. I was on it for a while (not the best side effects) but it's a very good drug I think!! We took it for our fourth stim cycle being a long long down reg & although we were unsuccessful we did get great results & our frosties from that cycle is what gave us our long awaited BFP!!
Do you know if you will be using zoladex again whilst cycling?? I do hope your stay here is a short one for all the right reasons. We didn't go through FSA as such we were with Repro but after 3 failed cycles we did get a 2nd opinion with Alex H from FSA who is lovely & I thank him for our BFP as it was him who diagnosed the major issue for us which was endo. So if your seeing him at FSA your in good hands but also I'm sure whoever your seeing from FSA will look after you just as well. Many girls on this thread have give through FSA and have success stories. Do hope you will too & soon xxxx

How is everyone else going? Hope all on the TWW have good news to share this week. Thinking & praying for you all always xxx

digbyleigh

28-02-2011, 20:10

Welcome back catgirl.....the lovely girls & there support on here definatly helped me get through our IVF journey :)
I do hope your stay this time is short & sweet for all the right reasons!! I do believe chatting and supporting each other definatly helps & if anyone truley understands what where going through it's the girls on here :)

Maybebaby74

28-02-2011, 21:05

hi all,

Welcome Jaytee and welcome back Cat girl.
Digby - glad you are okay after your accident:)

Laurie I hope all is going okay and the TWW is not driving you too crazy!!

I just saw Stphen Lane today to follow up from our BFN last stim cycle. I had an MRI this morning to check for Adenomyosis and this came back all clear although apparently I have a torn muscle in my pubic area consistent with a child birth injury??? :confused: - both SL and my DH were looking at me as if I hadnt told them everything lol:laughing::laughing:

Anyway once again it seems to be just a numbers game for us as I have no endo, no adenomyosis, no anything else to explain our inability to conceive except DH's sperm.

We are booking in for an antagonist cycle again this month so hopefully will be jabbing come 8/9th March and maybe it will be 3rd Stim cycle lucky for us but I was so devastated in Jan that I am not going to invest to much emotionally this month. We are very lucky in that DH's parents are paying for our IVF so we dont have to worry about the money side of things but sometimes that makes it harder as well as I feel we are disappointing more people.

Anyway that was a bit more of a me rant than I planned but once again I am wishing :babydust1::babydust1::babydust1: for everyone and hoping that you are all keeping your sanity during this trying time :goodvibes::goodvibes::wave:

jaytee

28-02-2011, 21:54

Hi ladies & thanks for the warm welcome to the thread :)

Jaytee.....hi & a warm welcome to this thread. Hope you managed to cope ok whilst on Zoladex. I was on it for a while (not the best side effects) but it's a very good drug I think!! We took it for our fourth stim cycle being a long long down reg & although we were unsuccessful we did get great results & our frosties from that cycle is what gave us our long awaited BFP!!
Do you know if you will be using zoladex again whilst cycling?? I do hope your stay here is a short one for all the right reasons. We didn't go through FSA as such we were with Repro but after 3 failed cycles we did get a 2nd opinion with Alex H from FSA who is lovely & I thank him for our BFP as it was him who diagnosed the major issue for us which was endo. So if your seeing him at FSA your in good hands but also I'm sure whoever your seeing from FSA will look after you just as well. Many girls on this thread have give through FSA and have success stories. Do hope you will too & soon xxxx

How is everyone else going? Hope all on the TWW have good news to share this week. Thinking & praying for you all always xxx

Digbyleigh - not sure whether they will put me on zoladex or not as my first appointment is not for another week, but i hope if they do that this time will be easier. The first time was to shrink a fibroid tumour and so they were not counteracting it with any cycle stimulating hormones and i had horrific menopausal symptoms and as far as my husband was concerned i was a horrible b**** to live with. But if they do put me on it for IVF it probably won't be as bad because it will be accompanied by other stuff from what i understand.

jayemkayare

01-03-2011, 06:35

Catgirl - Wishing you all the best for your next journey. Hopefully we can provide the extra support your needing.:wave:

Laurit - I hope you are keeping sane in your TWW. Any more pains?

Maybe - :thumbsdown: for having to go through another cycle. It's good that you can do another cycle so soon :yes:. I can imagine the extra pressure you would feel with DH's parents paying for your IVF. Yay for your MRI being clear :smiliedance:, that is great news. Definately weird about the child birth injury too much :hoponbed: durning you TTC journey?????? :laughing: Did they say if this might have anything to do with your difficulty? Well :fingerscrossed: for next cycle.

Moo - You must be getting to the end of you TWW. How is everything?

:babydust1::babydust2::babydust1::babydust2::babyd ust1::babydust2::babydust1::babydust2: To all of these in their TWW.

moomechanic

01-03-2011, 09:13

Hi yup BT tomorrow :) had all neg hpts but sill no af so who knows?!

Livvyloo

01-03-2011, 10:03

moo - fingers crossed you have a BFP but it's just not showing up on HPT's :)

jaytee - welcome - hope this journey leads to success for you :)

jaykay - just wanted to say that I hope you're good hun.

maybebaby - good news on your clear MRI, that's great! Good luck with your antagonist cycle, i hope you end up with the result we are all after! I know just want you mean about how emotionally draining this can be.. it's so devastating when we go through so much and then end up with a BFN. I find it really hard not to be totally emotionally invested in the process the whole way through.. I'm struggling with that at the moment. You're very lucky DH's parents are helping you with the money side of things, that must be a huuuge burden lifted. I know I'm constantly worried by the expense of it. My DH's parents recently gave us a little bit of money towards our next cycle too, so I feel very fortunate because we've spent so much already. I hope this next one will be our last one and the money woes can be over soon, not to mention finallly being pregnant which is the ultimate dream!

catgirl - welcome back. hope this next cycle goes quickly for you and ends up with a BFP!

AFM - well i'm on a complete low at the moment and feeling really emotional. Nothing seems to be going right at the moment. I've been on the pill for 2 weeks to "reset" my cycle after the m/c (and because I dont regularly ovulate so we can't guarantee that I'd get a period otherwise) but since going off the pill have not had a bleed still. I went in to repromed this morning for a BT because they want to see what my levels are doing to suss out why my lining hasn't shed. There are a few different scenarios.. one of which i'm just not happy with. Basically if my levels are low and i have not had a bleed it might just mean the pill didn't cause my lining to build up and I didn't have anything to shed. So if my lining is thin (which i guess they will ascertain from a scan at some point) i could go ahead and start preparation for my FET cycle.. but depending on the BT results.. and if they do a scan and it's thick, they'll need to make it shed somehow. Apparently there's a drug that you can take for 12 days and afterwards your lining should shed. I just can't believe it, another 2 weeks on top of the 2 weeks i had on the pill, plus the 2 and a bit weeks i had to wait for my HCG levels to drop after my m/c.. it's just turning into the longest amount of time imaginable. I feel like I can't move on until i can start a new cycle, and the fact that it's proving so difficult is really upsetting me. I am praying that my levels will be low and my lining will be thin if they do a scan... but i just don't understand what's going on and why the pill hasn't worked to give me a bleed :( it just feels like everything is going wrong and I'm never going to get to another transfer!!

laurie7

01-03-2011, 11:13

Good Morning Girls,

How are you all?

Moo Im so scared of HPT's! :fingerscrossed: for your BT!

Welcome back Catsgirl :wave: and welcome Jaytee! :wave:

Maybebaby good luck with your cycle! Not long now! :goodvibes:

Livvyloo you poor thing that is just so confusing and the worst place to be when you just dont know what is going on. :hugs: and i hope something can be found soon so you can get on with it again. :hugs:

Digby Im so glad you are ok after your accident, its sounds terrible. :hugs:

How is everyone else in the TWW doing? Im starting to feel it now and we have a week to go! We had our transfer last Wednesday (which was blastocyst) so we would be 11 days DPO today and I am feeling a little bit periody, so I dont know what that means. Im still on the pesseries but I hope this feeling is normal! Does anyone know with Flinders when you go in for your blood test do they ring you later in the day with the results or do you know fairly soon afterwards? Im trying to work out if I should have the day off or not next Tuesday :confused:

As always :babydust1::babydust1::babydust1: and :fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed: to all!

LulusMum

01-03-2011, 11:19

Livvyloo

01-03-2011, 11:36

Livvy - i havent been in here for ages but had to reply to your post. I totally get how mach waiting sux. When on my 9th cycle (the one that got us our Max!) i was on stims for over 20 days - i had about 5 scans and soooooooo many BT;s it wasnt even funny. In teh end i just gave up, rang repromed and told them i was stopping all meds and cancelling the cycle myself - it just wasnt going anywhere. They accepted my request to cancel but then rang me later that day saying all levels and scans were perfect and i was going in for EPU on friday. Not expecting a great haul i did get alot (cant remember how many) but up to that cycle it was our best haul, best quality ever, with 6 blastos to choose from - one was max, one his twin who didnt make it past 9 weeks and the other 4 got frozen. I guess what im trying to say is sometimes the longest and most frustrating wait brings the biggest reward. And just for the record, max is totally one of those kids who will only do things in their own time -he makes me wait constantly and has such a defiant attitude - obvioulsy they start developing personality when only half a person;) I hope you get some answers soon so you can feel as though you are working towards achieving your goal:fingerscrossed:

Thank you for posting this - it actually made me a little teary to read it. It means a lot that you'd share your story to help make me feel a little better, I really appreciate it.

I just feel really emotionally drained at the moment and like absolutely nothing can go right. I didn't think anything could go worse than my last cycle but this one from the get go has just been stuffed completely - even moreso than my last one! I can't believe that the pill doesn't even do what it should for my body now. Last time I was on it for 2 weeks I had no problems whatsoever coming off and having a bleed, but this time, when i'm so desperate to begin a new cycle because of the trauma of my recent m/c.. it's just NOT happening. All I want is to start a new FET cycle so I can feel like there is some hope again, but it feels like I'm being denied that! I'm so bad at the waiting, I just hate it.

You're right, the waiting would all be worth it if I got my little bundle in the end, so so true.. but I just feel so empty at the moment and like it's never going to happen :( I know I need to keep positive, but all these things going wrong at the moment are making it really hard!

Livvyloo

01-03-2011, 11:38

Livvyloo you poor thing that is just so confusing and the worst place to be when you just dont know what is going on. :hugs: and i hope something can be found soon so you can get on with it again. :hugs:

Thanks for the hugs babe. it's just agonising at times this journey!! :( :(

GL, not long for you to wait now! Feeling periody could be a good thing! Lots of people say early pg feels just like the onset of AF!!

jayemkayare

01-03-2011, 12:21

Livvyloo

01-03-2011, 12:44

Livvy – How are you concentrating on work at all at the moment :hugs: The thin lining scenario sounds like the best outcome, getting on with things and actually doing something proactive will be the best thing for you. It must even be a long wait until this arvo to get you BT results back. :hugs:

AFM - Just hanging out, waiting for April to hurry up along for my next cycle. Have been feeling much more positive lately. My acupuncturist said from her point of view I was doing really well. She could sense some changes when she checked my pulsey thingy at our last session. My goal for next cycle is to get at least 3 eggs and at least 1 good quality emby, it isn’t too much to ask is it?

I am reallllly struggling to concentrate on work at the moment to be honest, it's a real battle. I have a big meeting to host in 15 minutes and I'm not even focused on it at all.. it's almost as if I don't care! I am just so preoccupied with everything else that's happening (and not happening!!). Im also scared my phone call from repromed with my results and action plan will come during the meeting and I won't be able to answer. I know they'll call back, but more waiting will drive me even more bonkers!! I just want to know what might be going on. I have resolved I may have to have a scan this week at some stage anyway, but it would be nice to just KNOW what's going on :(

I bet you're dying for April to come, I know the feeling so well! Stupid waiting game. Im so glad you're feeling positive though, that's great! I hope you do get the result you're hoping for with your next round, I don't three eggs and 1 emby is too much to ask for at all!!! :)

Livvyloo

01-03-2011, 16:05

oh goodness.. huge sigh of relief from me this afternoon - got the call from repromed to tell me I can start preparing for my FET afterall. My BT showed my levels were all very low, as if I'd had a period even though I haven't.. so they've said I can start my cycle after all! It doesn't really make sense to me as I thought the whole point of going on the pill in the first place was specifically so i could have a bleed, but that hasn't happened.. who knows, I'm hardly going to jump up and down and make a fuss about it now that I finally know I can continue!!

So since I have a medicated FET i start my drugs tomorrow, 3 progynova per day, and then in one week I put on an estradot patch, changing it every 3 days, as well as the progynova. Then I'll have my scan on 14th of March (adelaide cup day public holiday - they're open!) and if everything looks good I guess Id have my transfer perhaps that saturday the 19th (I'm guessing). That's just a rough guide because of course I don't set the dates but I like to figure out in my head when it MIGHT be. I'm so relieved I can go forward now, but now the nerves begin wondering if my frozen embies will survive the thaw!! :fingerscrossed:

OneDayTheBabyWillCome

01-03-2011, 19:52

hi everyone,

I've finally had a moment to join this thread, it seems like ART sucks not only your money but all your spare time too :) No time for anything! I'm at Flinders, BTW.

My story is that after 2 years ttc we've started on IVF as we are firmly in the "unexplained" category of IF (I ovulate normally, and 6 rounds of Clomid did nothing for us). Like most people I knew that IVF wasn't the magic bullet and that sometimes it takes a few go-rounds before it works (and sometimes not at all) so during our first cycle I was pretty laid back about it. Cautiously optimistic maybe. I was thrilled with the cycle, everything was textbook, the gonal-f 150 pens and other injections were bearable, my follicles were good (11 at scan) and at EPU we got 9 eggs. Our FS had decided to do 1/2 and 1/2 IVF/ICSI, just to be sure. I thought we were going to be one of the lucky ones and that maybe, just maybe on the first cycle the transfer would take, we'd get our BFP and it would rain kittens and rainbows.

Well.

EPU was last Friday. On Saturday I got the call: none of our eggs had fertilized. None. :eek: To say we were completely shocked is an understatement. I was prepared to overstim (didn't). I was prepared for implantation to fail (well I was right in a way, we never got there!). I was not prepared for zero fertilisation. That's $3k for a big fat nothing at all. No embies, no transfer.

To make matters worse, I am feeling as though I need to give this another shot, to really say we tried. It makes me feel better to have a plan. But I'm told they won't let me: I have to take a month off between stim cycles. This hurts more than the zero fertilization, to be honest. How on earth am I going to get through what could be almost 2 months of waiting?

So here I am. Something went horribly, horribly wrong. I am googling like a fiend trying to find out how common this is. It's either common or uncommon, depending on which forums you read or which FS you talk to. I'm hoping one of you ladies can shed some light.? Anyone had this and had a "normal" fertilization rate in their next cycle/s? Were we just horribly unlucky?

I promise future posts won't be all me me me :) I appreciate you reading, and I'm glad to be here. Well, not glad but... you know ;)

MLZH

01-03-2011, 20:34

Hi Laurie i see you only have 1ww now so how are you feeling i have had light cramping since ET well on and off , feeling flat but could be due to chasing a 2 year old around. We are with Fert Sa and test 9th March. Good luck to you for a nice bfp to. (positive vibes):fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed:

moomechanic

01-03-2011, 21:06

Nervous :s

hill04

01-03-2011, 21:41

patsgirl

01-03-2011, 22:44

Hi Catgirl :wave:

Livvy- I totally understand where you're coming from. It feels like while you're waiting around for things to happen, you just can't really move on. I'm glad to hear that you can start afterall, that's great! :fingerscrossed: for you.

One Day- I'm sorry to hear about your first cycle, that would be absolutely heartbreaking. I'm sorry I can't help answer any of your questions, but I really hope that things turn out better for you next time.

Moo- Good luck tomorrow hun, will be looking out for your news; I'm nervous for you too!

AFM- My FS appointment to review my last cycle wasn't meant to be until 18th March, but I rang yesterday to see if they had any earlier appointments. Surprisingly they said they had one available this morning. Dr T said that the reason for our fairly poor result seems to be a sperm issue. We already knew that DH had low count and morphology (around 2% normal), but once they washed the sample, he said they struggled to find enough good sperm to fertilise the eggs! That is why our fertilization rate was quite poor, and also why the quality of all the embryos apart from the one we implanted was really bad.
I have started on the pill again today (due to my non existant cycles without it), so will be starting stims again in late March. He suggested that it may just have been a bad sample, and that we should just try again without changes for this cycle. The only change will be that we will add Pregnyl due to my low estrogen last time. If the result is no better next time, they will try surgically extracting the sperm, as this sometimes yields a better quality sample. I'm a bit afraid after that we might be having the donor talk, but I know I'm probably getting ahead of myself :(. I'm really not sure how we feel about this though. Oh well, hopefully I won't have to worry.

moomechanic

02-03-2011, 07:17

Waiting for blood test and the nurse hasn't even shown up for work :s

Livvyloo

02-03-2011, 08:22

OneDay - oh gosh, I'm so sorry to hear about your story.. that's absolutely heartbreaking, I can only imagine how that would feel. You went in with a great attitude, and I can't blame you for not anticipating zero fertilisation - I don't think anyone would!! I know for myself, when I had my stim cycle it was like yours, text book, everything was working well, had 14 follicles, 14 eggs, and then 9 fertilised. I didn't end up with a BFP or anything, but like you the start of my cycle was really normal and I in NO way anticipated that none of our eggs would fertilise, so you're not alone therek, I don't think anyone would! I'm sorry I can't offer any advice or a similar story but there will be people here who can I'm sure, that's why this is such a great place. One thing I can really relate to is the anguish over the enforced month off. After my first stim cycle in October/November 2010 I had to have a total of 9 weeks off, the usual month, and then the next month too because the lab at repromed was closed over xmas. It ended up stretching out for what felt like an eternity and I didn't get to my next transfer until almost 12 weeks had gone past. It was hell. I totally get where you're coming from. To get over it and feel like there's hope on the horizon you need to move on quickly, and a month of languishing around doing nothing just doesn't give you that option. *hugs* I really hope you have better luck in your next round of stim - did your FS tell you any reason this might have happened??

moo - Good luck!!!!

patsgirl - yeah massively relieved that I can finally start my next FET. Of course there's always SOMETHING to worry about in this journey, now lingering at the back of my mind is 'will my embies survive the thaw' lol.. but I'm trying to put that aside for now. Randomly, AF showed up this morning too.. so I guess I am getting a lining shed after all which is a bit of a relief to me, since it's the whole reason i went on the pill to begin with. Anyway, that's great news you could get an earlier appointment at your FS clinic, and it sounds like your doctor has given you some reassuring information too, it's always good when it seems like they are really onto it and understand exactly what's going on and have a protocol in mind for you. It's frustrating about the sperm issue but here's hoping that next time yields a better result!

AFM - well after all that stressing AF arrived this morning, a bit random.. it's never ever taken that long to come once i've gone off the pill before. But i'm glad anyway because i was a little worried my lining hadn't shed and that there'd be remnants of pregnancy lining that would stop an embryo from implanting next time around. I have called Repromed though and asked if I should still start my progynova today as I know usually you start it on cd2 not cd1.. so I'm waiting for a call back and am holding off taking them until I hear. I hope it doesn't muck up my schedule, having the scan on adel cup day would have been perfect timing for me and i dont want them to move it back a day if i have to start my meds a day later. I'm hoping they just say start today anyway since they know my levels are all low.. or that i start tomorrow but don't change my scan date. Lol.. so many variables! At this point I just want to get on with it and start prepping!!!

digbyleigh

02-03-2011, 10:22

Oneday.....I'm so sorry to read about your cycle. With everything going like clockwork I can imagine the shock to find out none fertilized. The only thing I can really recommend you talking to you FS about for future cycles is whether it would be better to do all ICSI next time, as they do seem to have a better success rate. Also ask the FS what they thought of the quality of your eggs incase they think they may need to give you something also next cycle to improve quality. (not saying there is a problem but just to know for sure so you don't feel like your wasting your money/emotions next cycle) always good to ask these questions just to rule anything out.
I understand totally how you feel about feeling worse about the thought of not being able to cycle again straight away! I always hated that month of waiting. Unfortunatly they will only go again without that months break if it's a FET cycle & even then usually not. I used to just try & keep myself extra busy on my off months, as hard as it was. I also took advantage of having some "drinks" just because I could & also eat soft cheese & all those things which are a big no no whilst on your TWW & pregnancy. I wish you all the best for your next cycle & do hope time goes quick for you xxxxx

Hi to everyone else. I try to check on here as much as possible to see where your all up to. Hoping to read of some BFP's coming up this week. Fingers,toes & everything crossed xxxxx

Rell.....looking forward to hearing of your baby news!!!

AFM.....can't believe I'll be 27 weeks this Sat. Time is certainly speeding up now :) just got the news yesterday that our car is definatly being written off! Ah well, not much you can do. I'm just glad DD & I weren't in the car!phew! So really we have slot to be thankful for :)
Must go, have lots of housework to do & doing a great job procrastinating this morning! Lol!!

moomechanic

02-03-2011, 11:56

Bfn

jayemkayare

02-03-2011, 12:13

Livvyloo

02-03-2011, 13:40

Bfn

:no: :hugs:

so sorry moo

Livvyloo

02-03-2011, 13:52

Livvy – Yes, I am rather impatient, although surprisingly still positive. I have recently been really down emotionally but, I don’t know, I’m just feeling really good at the moment. I may come crashing down in a heap by mid April though. I’ve been really concentrating on the good things I have in my life and that although it sucks to be having to do IVF that I am grateful that we are in a position to be able to afford it. Not that it isn’t putting a huge burden on finances but it would be so heartbreaking not to be able to afford it at all.

Anyway, a huge YAY!!! :smiliedance:For starting off your new FET cycle today. Finally you are able to move on from your last cycle. I have every thing crossed for you Livvy. How many frosties do you have? And AF must have been such a relief, taken a bit of worry out of things, everything starting new. And stop worrying about all those dates hon, no matter where things fall, you will find the time and deal with each appointment as you know when they are.

I think it's fantastic how positive and what a good attitude you have! I wish I could be more like that. When I get into those waiting periods where nothing is happening I just completely slump. I was a nightmare to be around for the last 3 days particularly when AF wasn't showing up when I needed it to, and to a lesser extent for the last 2 weeks on the pill and (understandably) the week or so straight after my m/c while waiting for HCG to drop. It's amazing the change in me since booking on officially and knowing I'm going ahead with my FET this month without any further delay so far. Just knowing that now I can start on my tablets tomorrow and having a date for my scan makes me feel soooo much better and more hopeful. You're so right about looking on the bright side, we are lucky that they even HAVE this technology I suppose, let alone that we can afford to utilise it! You're an absolute trooper waiting for so long and still being in such a good frame of mind - good on you! :highfive:

I have 2 embies in the freezer (feeling a bit panicky that they might not survive to be honest but trying to put it out of my mind) and we're planning to have both transferred this time around (if they both live that is). I couldn't believe it when AF came this morning, I was lying in bed thinking "hmm, I feel periody" but didn't think anything of it considering i'd pretty much given up and then went to the bathroom and BINGO. I honestly didn't expect at this point that it was going to show up, even my fertility clinic nurses didn't think it would. I'm glad it did though because my dr wanted me to go on the pill and then off it specifically to have a bleed so that if there was any remnant of pregnancy lining left it would have another chance to shed before another transfer. Apparently if ANY hint of pregnancy lining was left afterwards it would stop another embryo from implanting.. so to have a bleed makes me feel more confident going forward. Even though they said i'd be fine to proceed yesterday when I wasn't bleeding, I'm a bit happier now knowing there's no chance i'll have any of that pesky pg lining left in there! Now that AF has arrived I don't start my progynova until tomorrow, but lucky for me it didn't change the date of my scan or anything so it's all still all systems go. YIPPEEEE!! :hyper:

Would be so lovely to finally have some good news at the end of this round. I'm hoping hoping hoping! I also hope the time goes quickly for you and you can start again soon!! :)

patsgirl

02-03-2011, 14:05

Moo: I'm so sorry hun, I know exactly what you're feeling right now :hugs:

Jaye: Yep, DH has been on Coenzyme Q10 and Menevit for months now, but he definitely does need supervision!

laurie7

02-03-2011, 15:14

Oh Moo :hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs: I am sooo sorry hun. I have tears for you sweet.

One day I also have tears for you :hugs: :hugs:.

Patsgirl :fingerscrossed: you wont have to worry about donor talk.

Livvy that is great you can start! :hyper:

Digby - 27 weeks already wow that has gone fast!:)

:wave: to everyone else.

AFM I am still trying to distract myself! Feel a little bit periody in the mornings but nothing major, still trying to stay as positive as I can be :freakingout:

As always :babydust1::babydust1: and :fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed: to all (I started this and cant stop as i dont want to jynx anyone!) xx

digbyleigh

02-03-2011, 15:18

Moo.....I'm so sorry :(
It just SUX!!! Hope your ok xxx

jayemkayare

02-03-2011, 16:17

Moo – I missed your post before. Hon I’m so sorry :hugs: Take care of yourself. It is so very hard, but it does get better as you move on to your next cycle. :hugs::hugs::hugs:

Livvy - Don’t be too hard on yourself, you’ve had a rough trott and things haven’t worked out to let you move on emotionally or physically. With your hormones all over the place as well, it’s not just an excuse, it really plays havoc on your emotions. I’ve had so much time and all my cycles, although disasters have finished rather neatly with a defined end. Thank god for your AF, with that info about not having a chance with any trace of pregnancy lining, you would have been so stressed. I think I'd be going for a long jog, makeing sure it is all bounced out!

Laurie - how effective are your diversion tactics :impatient:? I hope you are coping o.k.

moomechanic

02-03-2011, 18:00

Thanks girls was tough at work getting the call at lunch time (I work with an uncle and just looking at him made me tear up) but taking tomorrow off and getting my hair done :) (and possibly a bottle of moscato)
Thing I find hardest is knowing I have two cycles before I try again end of April :( I have to miss the next one, Repromed rules, and then I go overseas right at start of one after but hopefully that will make it all go quicker ( and if work change the trip date on me I'll scream!!! So far I've been told beg of April, which to me isn't that far away so a date would be nice)
Hugs and baby dust to all xx

liv01

02-03-2011, 18:45

Moo : I am so sorry hunny :hugs:

Oneday : hunny welcome to the thread the girls on here are wonderful and very helpfull i have to say the way you have gone into your first cycle is great cause on this roller coaster ride of ivf you do have you highs and lows if you dont have high expectations you will find the journey not as rough as some .

I am so sorry that your first cycle has been a hard one the only bit of advice I can suggest is that you have a karatype test done on yourself and you hubby it checks the genetic that you both carry i had mine after 4 failed cycles and wish it was done first good luck with it all.

For all the girls that are asking why you can not do a cycle back to back it is cause it takes around 30 days for your body to get rid of all the drugs in your system and it also give your body time to heal and also your mind and after you have done many cycles you will understand why they do it :)

Penn how are you going honey ?

Marzi : how are you going ?

OneDayTheBabyWillCome

02-03-2011, 19:11

Ahhh I really wish I had joined the forum sooner, you guys are all so positive and full of good advice. Thank you so much!

moomechanic - so, so sorry babe :( BFN's are hard no matter who you are. Take some time to take care of yourself (I love moscato too! Have you had the pink one? so delish :)) You hang in there and keep posting, on a purely selfish level at least we get to keep you for a little while longer!

hill04 - thanks! will send you a PM!

patsgirl - congrats on the early appointment - I always feel lucky when that happens to me, they are so hard to get hold of these FS's aren't they! (and then they talk like a million miles a minute - oy!) So sorry about the washing outcome, fx the numbers get better. If you start stimming late March then hopefully that will be when I start too so hook me up when the time comes eh!

Livvyloo - thanks for your kind words and sharing of waiting frustration! I was doing my last Clomid cycle over Christmas and they couldn't do my bloods which was frustrating as they almost wouldn't let me do the Clomid on its own and I would have been pushed out another month... not bl00dy likely I said! hah... As for a reason, we are seeing our FS next week, although I had spoken to (well, badgered) the embryologist who was actually quite lovely and patiently answered my dumb questions about sperm calcium and other random stuff I read on the internet. In any case, they don't know why it didn't work :( I definitely share your need to get on with the prep work and I'm excited for you that you may be starting tomorrow (or even have started today!)... hard to believe but I am very jealous! :)

digbyleigh - thanks for your thoughts, I really appreciate you responding. Embryologist says next time we do 100% ICSI so here's hoping it was just a blip and we were really, really unlucky. :fingerscrossed:

jayemkayare - thanks for your kind thoughts also! (you guys are lovely :)) Yep we are both on preg/Menevit vitamins so that's all good. I really hope to get answers from FS next week but I suspect I'm about to find out just how little they really understand about this whole process. I tend to think of the medical profession as some sort of magical pixies who can make dreams come true that I am terrified of one day meeting a doctor who says "I'm sorry but we just don't know"..

laurie7 - thanks for your tears, seems like we all have this crazy journey to go on in our own ways, eh?

liv01 - thanks to you too! I've never heard of a karatype test but thanks to you I am adding it to my list of things to bombard the FS with on Monday.. thanks for the steer!

AFM I am trying to stay busy at work. It's hard because I'm in a job I don't want to be in, but I need to do it to fund IVF and I'm not in a position to change. It was easier to go to work whilst I was doing treatment - you know, I felt like I was at least working towards my goal of being a mum so it was OK. Now I'm having the forced break and that's a tough call... I so want to be a mum and am ready to start that phase of my life that I am completely dissatisfied with anything else. Very childish! Poor hubby is in pieces too, sometimes I forget just how much it affects them. Good luck all!

(sorry for MASSIVE post!)

OneDayTheBabyWillCome

02-03-2011, 19:31

Sorry for the thread crash.

OneDay, I too have lived this almost exact journey. There are alternative advanced fertilisation techniques out there, they just don't seem to be that common. Have you had a chance to speak with your FS yet? (except to find out you need to take a month off!) Feel free to PM me if you like.

Gah sorry Hill.. I tried to PM you but when I click on "send message" nothing happens? maybe cos I'm a new member I can't send PM's yet? Anyway I wanted to ask about your journey so send me a PM if you feel like it :)

lilybaby

02-03-2011, 19:37

Moo - :hugs::hugs::hugs:, I'm so sorry. I've been thinking of you today and hoping it would be good news. I hope you and DH take care of each other. :hugs::hugs::hugs:

One day - welcome :wave:. I felt so bad for you reading your story, it must have been heartbreaking when you got the call. I sort of know how you feel, on my 3rd epu we got the call that only 1 out of 10 eggs fertilised and I just burst into tears on the phone. They couldnt give us a reason why it happened which made it tougher. I hope that swapping to full ICSI next time will give you a perfect fert rate. :fingerscrossed: I understand how stressful it is to wait between cycles too, it really is hard, but as Liv explained they need to let our bodies recover. It doesnt help us emotionally though because we all just want to go, go, go until we get utd. :p Wishing you loads of luck with your next cycle and I hope it is the lucky one! :goodvibes:

:wave: to everyone else. Sorry this is a short one, I've still got work to do tonight.
afm, I start my puregon tonight :smiliedance:, yey it's finally happening!!! My last cycle was Oct last year so it's been a loooonnng wait but it'll be worth it if this new protocol pays off. :fingerscrossed: :goodvibes: :babydust1:

patsgirl

02-03-2011, 20:24

OneDay- Just wanted to let you know that I found some info today re. melatonin helping to increase fertilization rates. If you decide to get some though, don't buy the stuff from the chemist as they are homeopathic preparations that are very very dilute. Apparently you can get a prescription from the chemist for tablets containing 21mg (3mg is what is recommended), so would just need to cut them up into a few pieces. Here's the link, I also have a copy of the study mentioned if you want it http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art29772.asp

Would be great if we're cycle buddies, looking forward to it!

Marzi

02-03-2011, 21:41

One day, hi and welcome. All the best for your journey.

Lily, I have everything crossed for you this cycle xx

Liv, I'm doing way better! Feeling much more normal :)

OneDayTheBabyWillCome

03-03-2011, 07:01

patsgirl - isn't that weird... melatonin! I am adding this to the list of ideas for my talk with FS on Friday. The list has gotten quite long now, maybe I should email it ahead of time lol I am thinking that the melatonin can't hurt, although it is likely to be one of those you have to take for 3 months before you see any effect. Who knows how long this journey is going to be anyway so it's well worth trying (plus I sometimes have difficulty getting to sleep at night - could solve that too!)

I'll let you know what the FS says. Is your FS open to ideas you've heard about outside his/her office? I get the feeling mine doesn't hold much respect for patients who Google....

jayemkayare

03-03-2011, 08:21

Moo – Enjoy yourself today. I love getting my hair done. Hopefully it makes you feel a bit better. I’ll be cycling in April (FINALLY) it isn’t too far away, hopefully March goes quickly.

OneDay – I think work is low on all of our priorities. Like you I just go so I can hand the paycheck over to repromed. I should still be on maternity leave if my plans worked out.

Lillybaby – YAY for starting :hyper:. :fingerscross: your body likes the new protocol. Is the long down reg your doing?

Moo – thanks for that link, I’ve printed it and will get to reading it. I wouldn’t mind reading the article you have either. Is it bad that I’m planning for if this cycle doesn’t work???? I keep researching and then feeling guilty.

Marzi – so good to hear from you and to hear that you are doing better :hugs:

Penn - I've been thinking about you. How are you going?

digbyleigh

03-03-2011, 08:46

Lilly.....yay for jabbing!! Sooooo excited for you & DP!! Can't wait to crack the oj in 2.5 weeks time :)

Penn......how are things going? Been thinking about u often, hope all is going super well xxx

Marzi.....so glad to hear your feeling much better xxxx

I'm guessing the catchup is this Sat? If so Unfortunatly I'll be working. Will definatly start going once I stop work if that's ok?
Just had yummy hotcakes from maccas for brekky!! I know not very healthy but yummy!! :) Now to get nails done, then run a few errands before starting work this arvo!! Have a lovely day girls xxx

Livvyloo

03-03-2011, 09:43

Laurie - oooh feeling periody could be good! I had days feeling so periody in my last FET cycle and it ended up being a BFP! Fingers crossed! Not too long to go now!

Jayemkay - Thanks hun, much appreciated.. you're probably right, the hormones probably do play more havoc with me than I even realise. I go on about how I'm quite lucky in this process because I don't realllllly have that many symptoms along the way, even when I was jabbing I felt pretty normal apart from bloating.. i never feel nauseated or anything..well I haven't YET anyway (touch wood).. but probably my moods and emotions are actually more up and down than i even think when I'm taking all these meds! You're right, sooo relieved to have a period just because it means I won't have ANY lingering doubt that any remnants of pregnancy lining could be left! Funnily enough I AM going to the gym tonight and was planning a run.. lol so hopefully that encourages it all to bounce out hehehehe

Livvyloo

03-03-2011, 09:58

moo - it's sooo hard getting that news at work isn't it? I've got ALL my news whilst being at work. The first BFN stim cycle I had to go outside because I was crying, but I managed to reign it in and stay at work for the rest of the day and then just cried my eyes out as soon as I got into the car. My FET where I had the BFP but with low progesterone and bleeding I couldn't focus that whole day.. it was a friday and I found out I was pregnant at about 1pm and I couldn't help but be happy and excited but also terrified and worried that I could have a miscarriage (which I did). I remember looking at my boss that afternoon (who doesn't know what im going through) and she was talking to me and all I was thinking in my mind was "i'm pregnant omg i'm pregnant i'm pregnant" as she was talking lol.. I didn't hear a word she said! I probably actually seemed really happy that afternoon because even though I had a feeling it wasn't going right, I was still so thrilled I was finally pregnant!! Anyway, enough about me, just wanted to say.. have a looovely day today, try to relax and rest up, enjoy pampering yourself and be good to yourself. It really does suck that you might have to wait 2 whole months to try again, believe me I feel your pain, been there done that too! I've basically told my work now that I cant travel due to medical issues and they have just accepted it. My work doesn't require much travel though, if ever, so it's a bit easier for me. I'm skipping an interstate conference in April though because i know there's a chance i may have just found out i'm not pg or might be starting a fresh stim cycle and will need to be home to do my injections. Big hugs anyway and feel better soon.. your time will come!!!

lilybaby - YAY for starting your injections!! October last year is a LOOOONG wait! That's when I had my first stim cycle, then I had to have 2 and a half months off (stupid lab closing over christmas) .. THAT wait was long enough..I can only imagine how it feels for you!! You must be stoked!

oneday - Lol i've totally badgered the embryologist that's looked after our embies too. She remembered me from my first stim cycle when we did our first FET even though it was nearly 3 months later! That's so frustrating that they can't tell you what happened though, I really hope you have better luck next time.. it's such a devastating thing when it doesn't go the way we'd hoped. I totally understand your jealousy that I'm getting to start a new treatment cycle today, lol I feel jealous of all the girls who are about to have their ET's or have just had them/in their TWW's! I just want to be there myself, and even though it's only a couple of weeks away it feels like an ETERNITY!!

AFM - Taking my progynova 3 times a day, starting today! Wahoo! So happy to finally be back on the wagon and also that I had a bleed in the end to get rid of ANY chance of leftover pregnancy lining. I really want the next 11 days to go quickly so I can get to my scan and find out when my FET might be! SOOOO nervous about the embryos surviving the thaw, i'm just praying they both do so i can do my first double transfer. But Im also praying even ONE does.. because it would suck to get that far and not even do a transfer at all! AHH fingers crossed - a long way to go yet!!!

hill04

03-03-2011, 10:07

OneDay it seems the PM function is missing when I click on your username... maybe check your user set up?? It may be blocked in your privacy settings or something?? The 2 things suggested to us were double injection or assisted activation both using 100% ICSI. Both of these are techniques which kind of wake up the egg. I got the impression that it is usually the sperms job to do this and DH went on to have lots more investigations. We also did karyotype testing done straight away. I can't remember if this was our or FS suggestion. It will be interseting to hear what your doc has to say tomorrow. I am happy to chat at anytime about my experience if you work out how to unblock your PM!! Good luck.

kellijh

03-03-2011, 12:28

moomechanic

03-03-2011, 12:49

OneDayTheBabyWillCome

03-03-2011, 14:08

Welcome Kell, hopefully your stay here won't be too long! ;)

I can't say about Repromed as I'm at Flinders (PITA other side of town, but no way could we afford Repromed I reckon!) but I'm sure one of the ladies will be along soon to give you the lowdown :)

OneDayTheBabyWillCome

03-03-2011, 14:11

Hrm Hill not sure what is going on there, I messed about with a few settings to see if that would fix it. Either way I haven't heard of double injection or assisted activation so I am writing those down definitely! Makes you wonder why they don't just do these things anyway, right? :)

FS appointment is Monday, I will definitely let you all know what happened (whether you like it or not ;))

Livvyloo

03-03-2011, 14:19

thought i might joing u if thats ok!

Here we go .... now the rollercoaster REALLY starts

background: i'm 100+kg - new lifestyle adopted a while back and LOVING it!

I Have mild/borderline pcos (no symptoms apart from overweight/annovulation). Hubby has great sperm count and morph but poor motility. thats it!

We are booked in for ICSI Cycle #1 in June at Repromed (FS is the lovely Dr. Lisa Bedson) and will be on a Clomid/Metformin combo till then!

I live in the South East - anyone else?

I look forward to hearing from anyone else going through similar things or anyone with success stories!!

Luv,
Kell
xx

Hi Kell, and welcome :)

I'm with Repromed, but I'm with Dr Bruno Radesic, he's pretty good and he doesn't put up with my **** which is probably the kind of doctor I need, haha.

Glad to hear that you're loving the new lifestyle and hope it helps with your PCOS. I had a friend with PCOS who recently got pg on her first round of clomid, so there's a lot of hope there!!

No success story for me though yet, i'm just one of the many with unexplained infertility hoping IVF will fix whatever problem there seems to be!

I live in the South/Eastern suburbs of Adelaide.. but not sure if you actually meant you live in the South East as in AGGGES away or city fringe :)

Livvyloo

03-03-2011, 14:36

Thanks Livy
It will be the only time i really travel for work and I won the trip by beating the boys so will be nice to go overseas again :) we go to syd occasionally for training for 3 days but that is completely optional so no too bad

Well that's pretty cool! At least you really want to go and it isn't something that you're doing under sufference :) we've booked a trip to hawaii in august, and I can't wait, although im sooo scared i won't be pregnant by then and that it'll interfere with a cycle. We're going for 10 days and it does freak me out slightly that it might push back a cycle, but I'm just praying praying that we're pregnant by then already and I don't hvae to worry about it!

moomechanic

03-03-2011, 15:11

Fingers crossed Livy howeer if I does push back a cycle it may be the perfect way to relax beforehand

digbyleigh

03-03-2011, 18:20

Welcome Kelly, the ladies on this thread are all so lovely & supportive. I wish you all the best on your journey to motherhood. May hit happen sooner rather than later. Just know where all here for you at anytime you need to chat/vent. We also have monthly catchups which you may like to attend :)
AFM....I also went through repromed, it took us 5 cycles as well as 9 cycles of clomid & 4 years in total. Where now 27 weeks pregnant. Just takes a bit of time for some of us. Goodluck on the clomid, TBH I found that harder than the IVF medication but that's just me. I guess the ivf medication was slightly easier as we could see we were getting somewhere (slowly but surely) IYKWIM. Im not from the south but I think there's a few on here who are but it does sound like your in good hands at repromed :) The nurses there are all soooo lovely also.

jayemkayare

03-03-2011, 18:21

Hi Kellijh :wave:, Welcome to the thread, I hope we can help you through your 1st IVF cycle. I'm with Repromed, I've found them very good. They explained the process step by step and went through it all again when I forgot :p The nurses are lovely, even the famous jelly bean nurse that is really bad at taking blood but gives you a jelly bean for your trouble. My FS is Dr Whittle, who I've found to be wonderful. Good luck with your, hopefully short :fingerscrossed: journey.

Winzy

03-03-2011, 18:59

Hi Kellijh! Welcome to a lovely supportive thread :) I am with Flinders too we got lucky on our second cycle of ICSI after only 1 of 9 fertilised the first go, ICSI helped and we got 2 embies, one of which is still growing inside me. I thought it would never happen to me but hey it has and chances are it will for you too! I hope that your stay here is short with a very happy ending

Oneday: Hi there! I went through Flinders too. Hey just a thought about the PM thing I think you need to post 10 posts before you 'unlock' the PM button. I was saddened to hear your news re your fert rate - I had a similar story first round to, but ICSI helped us somewhat in the second round. I really hope that your FS has some ideas / answers / things to try on Monday. Whcih FS are you with? Best wishes for your app on Monday

:babydust1::babydust1::babydust1::babydust1::babyd ust1::fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fingerscross ed::fingerscrossed: for all those cycling / about to start especially Laurie and Lilybaby :babydust1::babydust1::babydust1:

MLZH

03-03-2011, 20:39

Hi everyone i don;t update too often but just need some views on this 2 ww business... now i am 7dp5dt and just wondered how everyone else felt, i do feel light cramping and have done for past 6 days on and off all day, extremely tired in mornings by 10am this morn i could easily hopped back to bed, but with a 2 yr old is impossible haha, soooo just need anyones opinions. Would it be too early to test, i only had pregnyl on tuesday morning so just wondered how others felt at this stage,, so hping one of the 2 embies has stuck,, good luck to all cycling,,
:babydust1::babydust1::babydust1::babydust1::babyd ust1::babydust1::babydust1::)

patsgirl

03-03-2011, 20:49

One Day- In the study partcipants took melatonin from CD 5 of the cycle before IVF. Same as you, I figure it's worth trying, and it's quite harmless (don't give it to DH though, as it appears to make semen worse!)
I haven't been seeing my FS long, so haven't really had the chance to bring up many alernative ideas with him, not sure what his reaction would be. I know that some of them roll their eyes, but I don't think there's any harm as long as you know how to filter the rubbish from what's actually reputable.

jayemkayare- just send me your email address by PM and I'll email the article to you if you like.

OneDayTheBabyWillCome

03-03-2011, 21:25

Winzy - I'm with Dr Scroggs... someone on another forum referred to him as Dr Sprog hahahahaha (here's hoping!)

kellijh

04-03-2011, 08:26

eeeep - go to pick up my Metformin and Clomid today! We're not expecting the clomid to work due to DH issues but figure we may as well do it to fill in time as we are BOOKED IN FOR OUR FIRST ICSI CYCLE IN JUNE! arrghhh - so nervous and excited! :fingerscrossed:

I hope you are all well!!

:babydust1::babydust1:

Luv,
Kell
x

laurie7

04-03-2011, 09:21

Hi Girls,

Im feeling abit low this morning, on my way home from work yesterday I got really bad pains in my tummy so I went straight to lie down, they carried on for awhile. Felt like AF pains. This morning I have had some light spotting so I have had a few cries and DH has called the hospital to ask but they said it could be AF or it could be ok.

Ive had a few cries but trying to stay strong, I know this is only our first time and chances are very slim but I cant help but to cry. i just hope its a good thing but luck is not something that comes along very often at all for DH and I.

:( :confused: :heywhat: :( :crying::crying::crying:

Livvyloo

04-03-2011, 10:03

Laurie - oh you poor little love. Don't get too upset just yet, spotting is common in early pregnancy and it doesn't necessarily mean you're out of the game just yet. It could be leftovers from implantation. I understand how you feel, every time i have any spotting I assume it's all over too, but be reassured that lots of people have some spotting and go on to be pg after all. Just know, you're early in the game yet, and if it doesn't work this time you're just one step closer to the time when it does. :hugs:

kelli - Good luck on clomid and metformin. I had no luck with clomid but I do have a friend who went on clomid one time as a last ditch effort before resorting to IVF, expecting it not to work as she had PCOS and her DH had swimmer issues, and she got pregnant! so it can happen!!

MLZH - all those symptoms sound promising! I had cramping on and off throughout my BFP tww, and had moments (fleeting) of feeling exhausted. Don't forget though if you're on pregnyl it can mimic pregnancy symptoms. Doesn't mean you're NOT of course, but just something to keep in mind :)

AFM - Had my second acupuncture appointment this morning with lea, it went well. I did want to ask everyone here who has been doing acupuncture though, with lea or someone else doesnt matter.. has anyone had chinese herbs suggested to them, have they accepted...and if they said no - HOW did you say no? Lol. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the idea of taking chinese herbs but I dont know how to say no without sound really narrow minded. If anyone can tell me anything about their experience, either with taking chinese herbs or saying no to it, that'd be really helpful! I've got one more acu appt before my scan and blood test and then it won't be again until the day of my transfer. 10 days now until my scan - woohoo!

laurie7

04-03-2011, 11:14

Definately out......af has begun........what can you do.......

:no: :( :confused: :heywhat: :crying::crying::crying: :no: :( :confused: :heywhat:

colenso

04-03-2011, 11:39

On day 5 of my needles start the Orgalutran needles tomorrow, which I'm very nervous about the look miry scarry than the gonal f which I still only just manage to give myself! Was very teary yesturady but seem ok today, does anyone else get tired? I'm working all weekend so had Thus and fri off and I just want to sleep not like mr at all! My overies do feel like they are aching a little might be in my head not sure hopefully making loads and loads of eggs. Go back to Repromed early Monday for scan and blood test fingers crossed all this is working! You ladies are all so brave this is my first go and I don't feel so brave :(

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Livvyloo

04-03-2011, 11:45

Definately out......af has begun........what can you do.......

:no: :( :confused: :heywhat: :crying::crying::crying: :no: :( :confused: :heywhat:

Huge huge huge hugs honey, so so sorry :( :( :( rest up and be good to yourself, most of us here know exactly how you're feeling right now so if you need to talk, we're here! xoxoxox

moomechanic

04-03-2011, 11:51

Oh Laurie that sucks :( big hugs Hun

jayemkayare

04-03-2011, 12:18

Laurie – I’m sorry. Sending you lots of :hugs: And you can’t do anything, just cry all the tears you need to, lean on DH, have a glass of wine, some cheese, book in to a salon and move on to your next cycle with the same positive attitude you had for the previous one. It gets better, especially as you start planning for your next cycle, all the excitement comes back again. But for now, allow yourself time and space to grieve.

Livvy – I haven’t been offered chinese herbs, I know that my clinic is against them. It isn’t something I have been interested in so haven’t looked into it. If I needed to say no I would just say that I’ve asked my FS and they have advised not to take them, and ask them for some info so that it looks like I am not just dismissing on account that I think they are crazy :D

MLZH – Hang in there, it is a good sign that your tired.

Colenso – I get so tired while on the injections (gonal – F 300 and orgalutran) that I have fallen asleep at work (more than once). DH took me to the pictures – I fell asleep. Went to visit my parents – I fell asleep. So yes, feeling tired is very normal, unless I’m not normal………. Then your just a strange as me then. Good luck with your scan hon!!!!

colenso

04-03-2011, 12:49

Big big hugs and luv 2u Laurie :(

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colenso

04-03-2011, 12:50

Livvyloo

04-03-2011, 12:58

Livvy – I haven’t been offered chinese herbs, I know that my clinic is against them. It isn’t something I have been interested in so haven’t looked into it. If I needed to say no I would just say that I’ve asked my FS and they have advised not to take them, and ask them for some info so that it looks like I am not just dismissing on account that I think they are crazy :D

yeah it's tricky, my acupuncture lady prefaced the whole thing with "some of the doctors at repromed (my fertility clinic) have been warning their patients against using chinese herbs but I can assure you that mine are all tested and safe" blahblahblah.. she even went on to say that my specific doctor and several others were indoctrinated against chinese herbs but I should just ignore it. I feel a bit uncomfortable about it, I'm more than happy to have acupuncture as a complemetary therapy but I'm not happy with taking something that my clinic is against no matter how safe it might be. She hasn't even really offered it as a "you could buy this if you wanted to" it's more "Im going to have you take some chinese herbs" as if I don't really have a choice in the matter. She's really lovely and great at the acupuncture and definitely seems to know what she's talking about but I'm not convinced by the herbs situation and am not sure I want to do it.

I was thinking of saying I couldn't fit it into the budget with everything else.. but I'm not sure.. i just feel really awkward about it and am not sure what to say!! :eek:

Noodling

04-03-2011, 13:11

Laurie-much love to you and many hugs!! Grab that glass of wine which you have refrained from drinking and that yummy soft cheese this weekend, relax with DH as next cycle you might just need to wait 9 months for this indulgence.
I have a bottle of champagne Moet which I am looking forward to, it's something I look forward to everytime I open the fridge ;)

colenso

04-03-2011, 14:00

digbyleigh

04-03-2011, 14:03

Oh Laurie, I'm so so sorry. Like I have said to other girls on here & have said in relation to our own journey when the cycle doesn't work it just SUX!! There's no other word for it. Cry your eyes out if you need & give yourself time to grieve over your loss. When feeling up to it spoil yourself with all the naughty things you can't have when pregnant knowing your BFP is just around the corner. One other thing I used to do is once I'd got over the shock of it not working I would try & reflect on all the positive things that came out of my cycle. For me even though we got 4 x bfn cycles I would like at the positives each time. Alot of which were pointed out to us from our FS. He reassured us many times our cycles went well each time (although they were still unsuccessful) & how it's all a step towards it finally working. Unfortunatly we just don't know how many times it will take before it does finally work, so just try & hold onto the positives as much as you can to help get you through & keep you strong & ready for when it's time to go again. I hope these words help. Another thing that used to help me when I was at my lowest was definatly chatting to the girls on here & also hearing all the wonderful success stories of others, especially knowing they had done many many cycles before getting there BFP's. Take care mate & know where all here for you xxxx

patsgirl

04-03-2011, 15:48

Laurie- I'm so so sorry hun. I know exactly how you feel. That horrible feeling of going to the toilet and seeing AF during my first cycle is still very fresh in my mind. The emotional side of IVF is definitely much much worse than the physical, or even the financial aspects. I can't remember, did you have any frosties love?

Livvy- I know Lea quite well as I actually work in the same rooms she does at Ashford, and go to her myself. She is very straight up, and knows that the herbs aren't something everyone feels comfortable with. If you're just honest with her she will be fine. I have used them in the past, but not while doing IVF, and I don't think I would either. She will respect this :)

Livvyloo

04-03-2011, 15:54

Livvy- I know Lea quite well as I actually work in the same rooms she does at Ashford, and go to her myself. She is very straight up, and knows that the herbs aren't something everyone feels comfortable with. If you're just honest with her she will be fine. I have used them in the past, but not while doing IVF, and I don't think I would either. She will respect this :)

Thanks for this patsgirl, I really appreciate your advice. I think Lea is great and really respect her opinion, I just don't want her to think that I'm ignoring her advice or being closed minded by not wanting to venture into the chinese herb side of things. I am really open to complementary/alternative therapies (hence the fact that I'm having acupuncture at all) but I just don't know that I'm 100% sure on taking chinese herbs at all, whether my IVF doctors are against it or not. I guess my worry is offending her, it's not that I don't believe that they would help, it's more that I just don't want to be putting too many foreign things into my body right now when I'm on all sorts of IVF drugs + vitamins of all kinds for conception/pregnancy.. one more thing seems like it might tip the delicate balance! and to be honest i'm a little bit frightened by the thought of herbs brought in all the way from china.. i would hate to risk my health or the health of my potential child. I know she would never advocate something that could be potentially harmful but you just never know when something is coming from so far away... so it's got me a bit worried! I've never been a person who is good at saying no, but she hasn't really asked the question yet, she's just sort of suggested that she might have me take them.. so I haven't had the chance to say whether i'm happy to do it yet :)

lilybaby

04-03-2011, 16:32

Laurie - :hugs::hugs::hugs:. I'm so sorry, it is just awful. As others have said have a good cry and let it all out, have some wine and cheeses and do all the things you couldnt do if you were utd. I normally have a day or 2 of feeling very upset and p1ssed off after a bfn and then I start planning my next cycle. I find having my next cycle to think about gets me back to feeling positvie and hopeful again.
We all understand how you are feeling and are here for you anytime you need to vent. Take care of yourself over the next few days :hugs::hugs:

Livvy - I was also seeing Lea for about 9 months and also found her fantastic. As others have said she would not be offended if you just said no thanks to the herbs. I totally understand where you are coming from though with not wanting to put anything else into your body at such an important time, especially when the FS is against it. (Nothing against Lea because I also trust her, but still agree that the herbs made me unconfortable too) Good luck with your next ET. :goodvibes:

Sorry I've been so slack with my posts lately, for those that dont know I'm a teacher and I've moved to a new school this year after 11 years at my previous site. :eek: I'm just finding it all so busy at the moment and spending hours every night doing prep. So much of my gear is still in boxes in the shed since moving in the hols and until I get time to go through it all and find the things I need I'm having to start again from scratch, hence why I cant seem to find the time to post much these days. I do read each night still and I'm cheering you all on and wishing you the best. I'll try to do a proper catch up with personals over the weekend. :D

liv01

04-03-2011, 21:26

Livvy: lea is fantastic and i trust her when i first saw her i had been seeing a guy in mile end before who also was good but lea is just the bee's knees I can not wait to see her on tuesday i am one who did the herbs and would do it again in a heartbeat I was recommended to a lady in sydney called lilly lou and she helped some high profile stars get pregnant like Nicole Kidman and when i called to see if they new anyone in adl who would do treatment like her they recommend lea I went and saw lea every week for over six months and I had a little miracle and fell pregnant naturally after 4 failed cycles and I also have a low amh and Recipical balanced translocation of chromsomes 2 and 15 .

Sorry i don't comment on here very often but the long termers will know me and my story

AdelaideAli

05-03-2011, 06:56

Livvy, I guess it's up to you and I very much see where you are coming from about not wanting to put more forgeign things in your body. I'm very much the same. I just want to stay as natural as possible - with the exception of ivf of course!
I saw Lea for a while and took some herbs, I wouldn't take them again for my body as I didn't have a very good reaction to them, they slowed things down in the bowel dept significantly if you get my drift and also messed my cycles up taking them from 28 to 35 days. So I personally, for me, wouldn't use herbs during IVF. Had my body had a different reaction to them then maybe I would use them during IVF. I think because it's often such a long and heartbreaking journey to get to this point we're afraid to do anything that could possibly affect us. And that's understandable and Lea knows that so just let her know. One day I cried for like 5 minutes pre acupuncture treatment because I was so scared about the possibility of doing IVF and it not working and Lea was great! I felt bad/embarrassed afterwards though!

AFM: I had my repromed scans and bloods done and have my follow up appointment on Tuesday where :fingerscrossed: we can book in for our first cycle! I'm slightly worried about my scan results as the woman doing the scan called another person into the room to have a look at something they found and was asking me all sorts of questions like when my last abdo surgery was, if I'd ever been told I had an oddly shaped uterus etc, I went home and cried but pulled myself together and told myself not to worry unless the doctor says there is something to worry about. I've had heaps of scans and they've never found this before, it was pretty noticeable too, possibly endo? I'll find out Tuesday! I'm excited about booking in our first cycle but know this will be a difficult and possibly long journey!

Livvyloo

05-03-2011, 12:36

Hi all!

Thanks so much to AdelaideAli, liv01, and lilybaby for the thoughtful advice on acupuncture/chinese herbs/lea, it's much appreciated! :) I do think that I'm going to decline the chinese herbs this time around, I don't want to make TOO many changes from our last FET cycle considering it was ultimately successful aside from the m/c. I just want to mimise the variables and see if just a few small changes will bring about a different outcome instead of doing things totally differently and adding in all sorts of other factors. I do trust Lea implicitly and perhaps in future rounds if I don't have success I'll try the herbs but I'll just have to find a way to say no this round because I'm not ready for it yet. Not sure if I ever will be! I do have absolute faith that the acupuncture itself could really help, so I'm going to start with that. Truth be told, it's so much money doing all this stuff already, that I am also loathe to spend more if I don't absolutely need to.

Anyhoo, just a waiting game for me now, pill popping and killing time until my scan next monday. 3 progynova per day and I'm already feeling slightly bloated and a bit fatter than usual. I'm quite slight so even a tiny bit of weight gain i will notice! It's so annoying! After my last cycle i lost about 4kgs just being off all the meds for awhile.. now it'll all come back I bet! Not that it's not for a good cause, but still :) hehe. I want to be fat from being pregnant not fat from just trying!! Does anyone find the drugs DON'T have weight gain as a side effect?

AdelaideAli - good luck with your first cycle!!! Very exciting! If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask :) I can't blame you for a being a bit worried with what happened during your scan :( :hugs: hope it's nothing to worry about. I think endo has to be pretty darn severe to be seen on a scan though, so perhaps it's something else? Let us know how you go!

LadySchnitzel

05-03-2011, 13:08

Hi all

Sorry haven't posted in here for a long time......but I just wanted to pop in and see if Rell still reads this thread and if there's any new from you and the birth of your twins??

To those of you with recent BFNs i'm sorry to hear of that and here's some :hugs: for you. I remember how devastating my first BFN was and i left work in tears, i had never cried so much in my life. DH had to take me home and i cried all day and night.
We got our beautiful boy after 2 ICSIs and 1 FET.

To those who are thinking of acupuncture, it really is a personal choice too. i found it didn't work for us. both DH and I were doing it. we did it for our 2nd ICSI and we ended up having a worse fertility rate than our first cycle. Our first cycle we got 14 eggs, 9 fertilised, 1 transferred and 1 frozen. Our 2nd cycle we got 21 eggs, 9 fertilised, pretty much told that none were good enough for transfer (yet they still transferred one) and none were frozen. So we didn't go back to acu - and we were seeing lea. However, that's just our situation and it works for some and not for others so give it a go if you want to explore that option.

So with the 1 frozen we had from the first cycle we used that and got our beautiful boy. We obviously only had the one transferred and it worked.

I really hope that you all get your precious gifts very very soon as i know how incredibly frustrating and upsetting the IVF game is.

:goodluck:

Marzi

05-03-2011, 13:54

Livvy, if your not comfortable with the herbs, just say that they are not in your budget. I never took any as they are ridiculously expensive. Acc is really good and although many DES say it docent help, there is loads of evidence that it does. ...and it can't hurt right?

Laurie, so sorry it didn't work out for you this time Hun. Just know that you did everything right and this is not your fault at all. Crying is good, don't let it build up in you. Allow yourself to greive we are all here for you xx

I think I've missed welcoming in some newbies, there seems to be a few new commers. So hi and welcome xx I'm glad you have found us here, it's so great to be able to talk to others who understand what you are going thro.

Liv, how is little Cooper? What did he give you for your birthday?
My DH has decided that I'm giving him an ipad2 for his birthday late this month! His is going to be better than mine now! Grrr. 2 cameras, a better screen. Boys and their toys ay?!

Lily, how you traveling my love?

Winzy, I hope your putting your feet up a lot and enjoying your pregnancy! Xx

Enjoy your weekend girls xx

Marzi

05-03-2011, 14:05

Ali, I have a heart shaped uterus and have been told that it won't make too much of a difference. Pearl, who was on here a while back, had a daughter naturally and she has the same shaped one as me. If you didn't need ivf, you wouldn't even notice. It's natural to worry, as we tend to over analyze things but it shouldn't make any difference to the outcome. Wait to see what the dr says, but I'm sure you'll be fine xx

liv01

06-03-2011, 08:37

Marzi : :hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs: ah the ipad 2 i want one for cooper (but Really me lol) i thought of you guys when they were released chris just loves new tech as mat does .

Cooper is doing much better now thanks the new reflux meds have really helped I do feel for him after his feeds as he seams to be in so much pain poor lil cherub he has grown so much we have to do coffee next weekend no matter how much pain i went through to get him it has all been worth it all I can say to everyone going through it all is keep going when they give you a smile it is worth a million dollars and i know you and chris will get their babe you are one of my closest friends and i know you have been doing it tough lately just remember i am always her for you and cooper is hear to put a smile on your face love ya :hugs:

MLZH

06-03-2011, 12:14

Hi everyone still hanging in here, i haven't posted for a while, can barely stay awake some days, my lower back all along has ached for days now, funny feeling its now my right side, but it'll change, anyone else had these feelings and got a bfp, looking forward to Wed the big BT!!!! sorry for everyones bfn this week and :fingerscrossed::babydust1: for all still in the 2ww

Livvyloo

07-03-2011, 08:54

Winzy

07-03-2011, 16:57

Marzi: HI! Thanks for the shout out I missed our catch up this month ah well have to do it next month for sure. How are you doing? I really hope that you are feeling a bit better lately have been thinking of you my dear :hugs::hugs: have you been indulging in mad March festivities with DH? I have a little bit but Ive been too lazy to get off the couch much!

Livvy: Re the herbs - I had the same dilemma. I think I took the herbs in both my successful and unsucessful cycles from memory, but felt a bit dodgy lying to my FS! Though the second time the herbs I was taking stopped the day before I started jabbing so I wasnt too worried about them interfering (and they mustnt have cos that was the bfp cycle). I do think that the herbs might have helped 'clear out' my old lining by giving me a bit more of a decent AF but who knows really! I had so many variables in my last cycle... i was on the pill for 2 months straight and missed a period cos I had a cyst, then was surprised to find that the cyst had gone so I went straight into a cycle after 2 months of eating crap and drinking far too much red wine (cos I didnt think Id be cycling for a while) AND I had broken my foot so had to take clexane to make sure that I didnt get DVT in my immobilised leg and I was off work with my feet up all day... who knows what helped!!

Laurie: :hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs: to you and DH hope you are feeling OK hun have been thinking of you guys heaps this week. I hope that you are going to treat yourselves to a nice trip or weekend away in the barossa with red wine, soft cheese etc before your next cycle. (Cos fingers crossed after the next one you wont be able to drink or go to destinations like Bali for another 9 months or more!) I hope the wait between cycles goes quickly. Last time for me it went far quicker than I had imagined. Forgive me if I overlooked this but did you guys get any frosties this time? If so you might be able to go again after your next period with a FET if you bug them? :hugs::hugs: thinking of you sweets xxx

Andi1234

07-03-2011, 20:54

Hi ladies,

I've been offline for a while and am saddened to read about quite a few failed attempts the last few weeks. Hugs to all of you who didn't get the desired result this time round.

I'm about to embark on our next cycle,well I hope to anyway.
Have been taking Synarel in prep for our long long down reg cycle and went to a routine blood test two weeks ago. Nurses gave me my drug pack and told me I should be ready to start jabbing that night.
Then.... I get a phone call later that day telling me my oestrogen levels are sky high which means I have an egg growing inside...??I thought the whole point of a long down was that your body down regulated and you don't ovulate??
I went back the next morning for a scan which confirmed something on my left ovary. The nurse gave me an injection to speed up the release of the egg and told me to come back in two weeks..What? So, two weeks was today. Went in for another blood test this morning expecting all levels to be back to normal only to get a call this afternoon to advise now my progesterone is too high. I'm feeling like this cycle is going bad before I even started it. Am booked in again for another blood test on Wednesday and hopefully my levels will be ok to start my cycle.
Anyone else about to get started?

moomechanic

07-03-2011, 20:56

Goodluck for wed MLZH!!!

Had a bad day today, wanted to cry all day :( felt worse than when we got our BT results, I think cause af finished today it hit me our beautiful little emby is gone :(

Want to start next cycle already but at the same time nervous, it was alot harder to take a failed cycle then I thought

OneDayTheBabyWillCome

07-03-2011, 21:17

Oh moomechanic, you poor thing... I really feel for you :( Was this the first cancelled cycle? I've had one cancelled but we never got to BT so I guess we were spared the agonising TWW so that's something. I really hope your next cycle comes around quickly and this cycle was just a stepping stone to your BFP.

As for me and my 9 eggs-none-fertilized cycle, we had our appointment with FS today. He told us that they allocated 4 of the 9 to ICSI, (all 5 IVF failed) but of those 4 only 2 were mature. So basically, 2 mature eggs not fertilizing is not enough information for them to tell us if we have a real problem or not. As my response to the drugs was textbook he wants me to repeat the cycle again, exactly the same doses, but this time eggs would be 100% ICSI. I am at a loss so I guess I will go with this.

The hardest part though, was just getting my head around the whole "you need a cycle off from the drugs before you start again" thing. You guys in this forum helped a lot with that - isn't it funny how advice from your friends is so much easier to take than from a stuffy old doctor? lol. Anyway, what I was not prepared for was what he told me today - he wants us to take 2 months off. I swear to God I pitched a fit and couldn't believe the unfairness of it all. I know logically what he's saying is his experience talking but dammit - 2 months? That means 3 months really until a BFN or BFP - or even an answer as to whether we'll need to consider donor egg/sperm. That's hell in my book, I've no idea how I'm going to survive it.

I managed to talk him into giving me a scan at the end of this cycle to see if I'd recovered enough to make it a 1 month break only, but I think he was just blowing smoke up my butt to get me out of his office. Honestly, DH and I are thinking that life couldn't get any worse, but you know what happens when people think that....

jaytee

07-03-2011, 21:24

Hi everyone,

been a bit busy in the last week so haven't really been on here. Big hugs to all the ladies who have had a failed cycle this month :( Hope your bfp will happen in not too long a wait.

As for me, I am seeing the ivf clinic for the first time on Wednesday. i guess after that i will find out what our course of action is exactly. I'm feeling a bit apprehensive about it all, but I'm sure I will feel better about things when I at least know what is happening and have a timeline to pin my first cycle on.

Wishing you all a lovely rest of the week, will keep you posted.

rell27

07-03-2011, 22:42

Livvyloo

08-03-2011, 08:05

Oneday - Boy do I know how you feel! Our first failed IVF attempt was in October/November 2010 and after that my doctor said I needed to obligatory month off to recover from the stimulation, and that took us to early-mid decemeber, problem being that the lab closed there over christmas/new year so they couldn't do a transfer in that time even if I did have time to prepare for it. So that was an enforced 2 month break and I was absolutely DESPONDANT. I was soooo upset about it, verging on hysterical.. I went to see the counsellor at the clinic I was so upset. In the end it ended up being closer to 3 months too until BT day.. it was tough waiting. The only thing that got me through it was something the counsellor said to me. She basically told me I had to have the break, there was no choice, so did I want to spend that whole time over christmas and new year being upset and angry and not enjoying myself (particularly given the season!) only to come back in January and possibly get a BFP and realise all that heartache was for nothing.. or did I want to go away, enjoy time with my husband, enjoy the festive season.. and just forget about it all, and possibly go back in january and get a BFP. She said think of all the time wasted being miserable if you come back only to get a BFP straight away. OK so that's not exaccctly what happened given I DID get a BFP but had a M/C but it was that advice that got me through xmas/new year and the big 8-12 week wait between cycles without going totally insane. Not saying that I didn't get fed up and frustrated and tired of waiting in that time, I certainly did, but I tried to keep in mind what she had said and enjoy the time with my hubby hoping that the next go we had was a BFP and I hadn't wasted months being miserable. Hope that helps somewhat anyway :)

Winzy - hehe wow you had a couple of variables there didn't you!!? Thanks for sharing your story. If I end up having the guts to say no, I'm going to say no to the chinese herbs this time around and keep them in mind for next time if we have a BFN this time.

AFM - Still taking progynova, been taking it for 6 days now, started on an estradot patch today as well as the progynova.. scan and BT is 6 days away :smiliedance: the time isn't going that quickly but it's not going too slowly either, somewhere in the middle. I really can't wait to have my FET scheduled in, I'm so ready for another go.

Livvyloo

08-03-2011, 08:07

Hello Ladies

I have managed to find a spare 5 minutes so just wanted to pop in and share some good news with you:

last tues I gave birth to 2 gorgeous little boys!!!

Benjamin William was born at 2:45pm and James Henry at 3:05pm both weighing 6lb 7oz :)

we are all doing really well and came home on saturday.

i won't be able to get a chance tonight to read what is happening with you lovely ladies - but hopefully there has been some good results, and if not i am sorry that it hasn't worked this time but keep trying for as long as you can and always think of it as getting one step closer to your baby, i know it is tough but the happiness totally outweighs the heartache :babydust1::babydust1::babydust1: to all

take care

Congratulations!!!! :cheerleader2::cheerleader2: That's wonderful news, and what lovely names! Anyway I didn't post here yet when you were around but it's so lovely to see such a wonderful success story! I'm having a double FET this cycle (if they both survive the thaw) and secretly i would love to get twin boys out of it! Hehe. Good luck with it all!!

LadySchnitzel

08-03-2011, 09:06

Congratulations Rell!! that's fantastic news!!! Now you have to watch for double the squirts! ;):cheerleader2::cheerleader2:! lovely names and I can't believe they were 6lb 7oz each! i only had one bubba and he was 6lb even! nice work!!
Did you deliver them naturally (as far as i remember you were going to?).

Enjoy your new bubbies! They're little treasures!

digbyleigh

08-03-2011, 09:20

Congratulations Rell & family on the birth of your twin boys!! Fantastic news!! I'm guessing by the time difference it was a natural delivery! Fantastic weight for twins also :) Enjoy every minute with your boys & let us know how things are going when you have more time!! I can imagine how busy you are now with 3 little ones, do hope you get the time to rest yourself. Take care xxxx

laurie7

08-03-2011, 17:59

Congratulations Rell, cute names for you lil bubbas :D

A few of you have mentioned the 2 month wait, I have to agree that part SUCKS :freakingout: Im trying to find myself something to do to take up the nights rather than just work (boring) and come home. I think I might go to the gym but who knows! Im glad to have you girls on here to talk to though, that certainly helps me alot.

:hugs::hugs::hugs: to those who need them.

:babydust1::babydust1::babydust1: to those who want it!

xx

lilybaby

08-03-2011, 18:41

Congratulations Rell, that is such lovely news. I've been waiting to hear from you. :celebrate: Welcome to your 2 beautiful boys. (I love their names too.) Take care and I hope you are managing to get some sleep. :p

afm, I've got a date with the dildo cam tomorrow morning, :fingerscrossed: there are lots of good sized, healthy follies growing there.

Andi1234

08-03-2011, 20:47

Lilibaby - I :laughing:love:laughing: that:laughing: description:laughing: dildo Cam! That's hilarious.:laughing::laughing:
Good luck tommorrow morning.

I'm off to Repro in the morning for a bloodtest and fingers crossed that tomorrow I'll be ready to start my cycle. AF arrived tonight which I wasn't expecting while on Synarel but happy it came in a strange way cause that should be a natural sign that my body is ready:fingerscrossed:
Rell - BIG congratulations. It's lovely to get some nice news on here from time to time and it puts a warm feeling in my heart that somebody's dreamhas come true at last.
I hope we all get to experience this feeling soon too:babydust1::babydust1:

jayemkayare

09-03-2011, 07:02

Rell – Congratulations :smiledance: Two beautiful boys, that is just wonderful. Hope your managing to get some sleep between everything :yes:

Lillybaby - :fingerscrossed: for same good follie numbers and sizes. Good luck today.

Andi – sounds promising for you to start your cycle today :cheerleader1: That’s a long cycle isn’t it? So how long till all the ‘real stuff’ starts?

AdelaideAli – have you heard from your FS about those scans you had?

Penn – How are you going?

Sorry if I missed you out. Always thinking about you all. Of course extra :goodvibes: to all those currently on a cycle. :babydust2::babydust1: :babydust2::babydust1: :babydust2::babydust1:

lilybaby

09-03-2011, 08:23

Andi - I'm glad I gave you a laugh, :laughing: I cracked up the 1st time I heard that description too. I hope your BT went well today :fingerscrossed: and you can begin your cycle ASAP. What time were you at Repro this morning? I was there at 7:30. Thank you for your well wishes.

Jayemkayare - Thank you also for your well wishes. :)

Penn - How are you? I hope everything is going well. :goodvibes:

Laurie - I hope you are doing okay. :hugs: Sorry if you've said already, but when do you see FS for your review and to make your next plan?

Hi and :babydust1: to everyone else.

afm, I took the morning off work for my scan because I didnt want to be stressing out if traffic was bad and get to school late so I've got until 12 now until I head in. Turns out I would have made it there in time but so glad I can sit at home instead. I'm feeling really flat at the moment. :( My scan wasn't what I was hoping for. There is 1 follie ready now, 2 almost ready (both the same size) and 4 which are similar size but really lagging behind. Both the FN who did my scan and the one who did my BT didnt know what would end up happening. Obviously my FS will have to decide which one(s) to try for but I'm so disappointed. My previous 4 EPU's I've had 10, 10, 10 & 5 so this is a huge drop in numbers. We've signed paperwork to put back 2 blasties this time and now I've got to pray that we'll actually have 2 to put back. Pease, please let us get at least 2 perfect little embryos this time. :fingerscrossed::goodvibes::babydust1:

MLZH

09-03-2011, 09:23

Well blood test done now to wait for the result, sometime in afternoon ,:fingerscrossed: for a bfp, i have only made bt once before and that resulted in ds. Will update later:)

waitinghoping

09-03-2011, 10:13

Congrats Rell on the birth of your 2 little boys!! :cheerleader2::cheerleader2:

I know I dont pop in here very often anymore but I still read along and am thinking of you all xx

Ps - Good luck with the BT today MLZH!!:babydust1:

MLZH

09-03-2011, 13:39

Well everyone we finally go the bfp result an hour ago, seems surreal still, can't believe it really, stay tuned for progress, Hcg level 252 i think i got teary and couldn't speak much so will need to call Paula back soon. Thanks for the good luck sent:celebrate::celebrate::celebrate:

digbyleigh

09-03-2011, 15:13

MLZH........congratulations that's fantastic news :) :) wishing you & your family well that bubs stays put for the next 8 months xxxx
Hoping MLZH's news is just the start of many more BFP's to come for you all!!! We want a flood of pregnancys here!!! Thinking of you all always & hoping your dreams become a reality xxxxxx

Livvyloo

09-03-2011, 15:16

MLZH - congratulations!!!! I just love hearing about BFP's in here because it makes me think it can be possible for me too!

LulusMum

09-03-2011, 18:01

Lily - dont worry too much about numbers yet (even though i know its not what you were hoping for) Dont forget that even though you had bigger hauls in the past none of them resulted in a bub, i know that was due to other issues but please dont get upset or disheartened this early in the game. I think you made the wisest of decisions in trusting KT to work his magic on you (im sure many people here will agree.....), lets just see what he comes up with. I have everything crossed still that this is it -im sure you will get your two:goodvibes::goodvibes::yes:

lilybaby

09-03-2011, 18:39

MLZH - Congratulations, that is awesome news. :cheerleader1: :smiliedance: :cheerleader2: You must be over the moon. It's lovely to hear BFP news, hopefully some more of us will join you soon. :goodvibes:

Lulusmum - Thank you for your message, it was very sweet of you :hugs:. I'm feeling much better tonight than I did this morning, I think it was just a shock. My DP said basically the same thing (as you) when he got in from work. Since implantation has been our problem hopefully our new protocol with KT will be the answer. I heard from the FN and although I'm having another BT on Friday it's really just to check levels are still ok cos my lining is already spot on. They said today that my epu will be on Monday so they will go for the 2 that are just behind the lead follie and with any luck a few of the others will catch up too. I told DP we'll have to dtd on saturday so we dont waste our 1st follie which'll prob be gone by Monday. :laughing:
How are you feeling? I hope the twins and Max are treating you well. I read that Max hasn't been well, I hope you've been able to get some rest. I'd love to catch up before you have the twins but we might be running out of time. If not, I'll have to come visit when they are born. How exciting - not long now. :cheerleader1::cheerleader2:, take care xxx

MLZH

09-03-2011, 19:39

Hi Everyone thankyou all so much for kind words it is so surreal atm i can't believe it is me this time not someone else, i thought we would take a lot more then 3 times so both hcg and prog levels were excellent Paula said, so now a scan at 7 weeks is next step, i hope to hear of everyones' bfp from now. I did acupuncture with Lea, ate pineapple, said the St Gerard prayer daily which i will continue and took Blackmores Conceive well so this combination worked for me so if i can help anyone in anyway pls ask, i can't thank Prof Norman and his team enough, especially my favourite nurse Paula who is just so reassuring and positive and they were so good as i had to take ds everytime. :babydust1::babydust1: to everyone cycling, i will keep you all updated,
off to bed i am exhausted,:cheerleader1:

Noodling

09-03-2011, 20:16

Mlzh :) whooohooooooooooo!!!!! :) 
Such wonderful news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So happy for you & your partner
xxx

Question:
Are many of us on facebook?
Would be nice to see gals here :)
Also heard that there is Repromed on facebook but I can't seem to find it?

Tww and trying to push time along, please little 'millie' (as in millimeter) stay in there and dig in deep into your new home. From 27 eggs I just need a special one to give it all they've got!

Tonight I heavily suggested to dh that if we have a next cycle ;) that I would like two ebbies put back in. Would be our second cycle so I think fs would not be appoving but heck it's my body :) See how this one goes first I suppose, I just don't want to be so positive that naivety sets in.....fingers crossed bt will be a good result.

MLZH

09-03-2011, 20:56

patsgirl

09-03-2011, 21:46

Congrats MLZH!!!:smiliedance:

laurie7

10-03-2011, 08:03

:celebrate: Congrats MLZH! What wonderful news!!

Noodling Im on facebook too :yes:

:wave: to everyone else :babydust1: and :fingerscrossed: to all!

xx

LadySchnitzel

10-03-2011, 10:55

MLZH.....just wanted to pop in here and say congratulations to you!! such great news! We too went through Prof Rob Norman and Paula and they were the bees knees! I can't wait to see them again for bub#2 altho that probably wont be til next year. Hope you have a smooth next 8 months! Congratulations to you and DH! :celebrate:

Lilybaby....sorry to hear that you dont have as many follies as you're used to but i hope the ones that are there are the winning ones for you! still thinking about you and hoping you get your gold soon! Goodluck for EPU on Monday. hope there's a few nice surprise juicy fruits for you! :hugs:

jayemkayare

10-03-2011, 13:55

Andi – I hope your BT on Wednesday went well and it is full steam ahead for you.

Moo – How are you going hon? I hope you are starting to feel better and looking towards your next cycle. You will always have those down days though.

Onedaythebabywillcome – hopefully 100% ICSI makes the difference with your fertilization rates. Waiting is so hard, I’ve been waiting since Oct last year :freakingout: I find the best way to deal with it is to keep busy, give myself things to look forward to like massages, hair appointments, lunch dates. Something else to focus on I guess.

Jaytee – How did your FS appointment go? I hope things are a lot clearer for you now.

MLZH - :congratulations: You must be over the moon. What did it feel like to hear them say you were pregnant? It was so frustrating, I was checking all day to see your update, when I saw you had posted I got excited and the stupid page didn’t load!! So I had to wait. All the best for the next 9 months hon. :goodvibes: I’m definitely going follow suit with the pinapple, already doing acupuncture and I’m even going to throw in the St Gerard prayer. I havn’t been doing too much praying lately so it may be just what I need. Will I find it if I google?

Lillybaby – Wishing you the best of luck for EPU on Monday. Quality before Quantity hon, just one good embie at transfer will put you in the same position as you were on the cylcles you got the 10 eggs :fingerscrossed: I do understand low egg numbers, it is so hard. :goodluck:

Noodling – I love your name for your little embie. I’m on facebook J

MLZH

10-03-2011, 15:19

Hi Jayemkare, thankyou very much, well i had got in first and said to paula oh its good news isn't it, don't ask me why i said it but when she said, "YES" i just cried and passed the phone to my dh was funny looking back,,, now with St Gerard if you go to facebook, and put in IVF there is a site called Help keep the cost of ivf down, if you click on the discussion board you will find that someone else has put it up already, i always have prayed to st gerard so it was reassuring to know along with a combination of things that this was our lucky week, i hope you have luck with the next cycle, i am not very good at keeping up like all those wonderful people do i have no idea how they do it, but babydust to everyone thru Australia and the world,. sorry i will stop rambling now:smiliedance::babydust1::babydust1::babydust1:: celebrate::celebrate:

jaytee

10-03-2011, 21:26

Congrats to MLZH on your pregnancy :) must be so surreal when it actually happens! there is hope for the rest of us yet :)

Lilybaby wish you all the best for your EPU *good luck*

Thanks Jayemkare for asking abour our appointment. Well we have a really nice specialist, so that always helps. she has recommended ivf as our course of action, but first there are blood tests and semen analysis tests to do in the next month. We have another consultation in 5 weeks where we tell her what we have decided to do, and before that we will do the blood tests etc. We are thinking we will start the ivf in about 3 months time so we can get the money together. also we have to finish enclosing the hallway in our house which we have been renovating. Shouldn't take us too long though but that will give us enough time to get it done before i am no longer able to do any of the heavy work!

Oh and I am on facebook too :) just under my real name

AdelaideAli

12-03-2011, 06:32

Hi everyone

I feel like such a slacker in here. I've been so busy at work this week, I have marking coming out of my ears! I briefly read my email updates from this thread but never have time to respond!

I can't even remember if I said we have booked in for our first cycle in the week starting the 21st, so not long at all to go! I'm seeing the nurse next week about injecting etc. I'm excited but also at the same time don't want to let myself get too excited because then I just give myself further to fall if things don't work. I don't know whether that's optimistic or pessimistic! I like to think I'm realistic!

Speaking of Facebook, I'd love some help to win a competition. You just have to vote for my dog in an online dog show! I don't know if I can paste the link so I wont but if you go to Facebook, type Radley in your search box and click the 'company' link - there's a photo of a black dog. Click contests on the left hand menu, then vote now and then you can 'show all entries' by the most votes. My dog is named Freddie, I think he's currently about 10th.

Any support would be awesome!

I hope everyone is well and fingers crossed I have time next week to do personals, although I am meant to be picking up a Japanese exchange student from Tokyo tomorrow, I don't think she'll be coming anymore. Have to wait for news on that!

sassmata

12-03-2011, 09:25

Hey Adelaidans,

I am very new to this. ;) I am mid way through my 1st IVF cycle and really don't know what to epect. I have been reading like mad and the doctors and nurses at Repromed have been fantastic, but it is still difficult to understand everything until you actually go through it.

I have been on Puregon (200) for the last 5 days and have my scan and blood test in 2 days. I am on a high dose because I have low AMH levels for my age (9.0 and then second test 11.8) and I am only 28.

I was just wondering, what number of follicles do I want to see at my scan? I know I don't want heaps because can be a cancelled cycle and I don't want to see hardly any because less chance of them taking. So can anyone give me a range of what I want to see.

I am really appreciative to have other people's opinions, especially people who have been going through the same thing I am.:wave:

Sticky dust to everyone. Best Wishes xo:fingerscrossed:

jayemkayare

12-03-2011, 09:46

Jaytee – :fingerscrossed: all the testing goes well and nothing unexpected pops up. It is so exciting when all that is finally over and you get into it :goodluck:

AdelaideAli – Under 2 weeks to go before starting :smiliedance: I hope I voted for the correct “Freddie”, is he a cute white fluffy thing?

Sassmata – Welcome, you have found the right place for support. The first cycle is hard, not knowing what to expect. Everything makes sense AFTER you’ve been through it :D

I was 28 when my AMH came back at <3 (they repeated it twice cause they didn’t believe it) :eek:. So you still have good chances with your AMH. A good number of follies is between 7 and 12. Any more and they say the quality isn’t good. My first cycle I got 7 eggs which surprised every one, my FS told me I would be lucky to get 1 egg.

When is your scan? :goodluck:

sassmata

12-03-2011, 09:56

Thanks Jaye for your message. I am hopeful but am reminded that I have to be realistic at the same time. I is so hard not knowing what to expect but your message really helped me. It is hard talking to friends about this stuff, because of course they are supoportive and do their best to help you, but until you are stuck smack bang in the middle of it, you really don't understand.

I am interested in you finding out that you had a low AMH result too. They don't seem to understand why mine was low. Did you get a reason or it was a "we are not sure why those numbers came back like that?". I thought I was the only one... well that is what it felt like.

Anyway, thank you for replying (and so fast). I already love this forum and feel it will help me a great deal in the weeks to come. I think it will help keep me grounded when I am :freakingout:! :fingerscrossed: for everyone in here.

sassmata

12-03-2011, 09:57

oh and Jaye - my scan in Monday! :):fingerscrossed:

hoping4asticky1

12-03-2011, 10:40

I have been on Puregon (200) for the last 5 days and have my scan and blood test in 2 days. I am on a high dose because I have low AMH levels for my age (9.0 and then second test 11.8) and I am only 28.

I was just wondering, what number of follicles do I want to see at my scan? I know I don't want heaps because can be a cancelled cycle and I don't want to see hardly any because less chance of them taking. So can anyone give me a range of what I want to see.

I am really appreciative to have other people's opinions, especially people who have been going through the same thing I am.:wave:

Sticky dust to everyone. Best Wishes xo:fingerscrossed:

Hi Sass - It really depends, as lily said most FS like between 7 -12. My AMH come back between 8&9 so we really didn't expect much. On my 3 stim cycles (300 puregon) I got 13, 27, 24 eggs with fertilisation of 7, 24, 13. I ended up with a total of 12 frosties in all and had fresh transfer on each one. My FS never expected me to get so many eggs from my AMH levels and the majority of my embryos made it to day 4 or 5 before a decision needed to be made on if they were of good enough quality to freeze.

I don't know if I was one of the lucky one's or not but the majority of our eggs were good quality & I was 38 and 39yo when doing my stims.

Everybody is going to be different & until your first EPU has happened noone will really be able to tell you what your egg quality is like, even your FS but you will find out very soon.

Good luck

patsgirl

12-03-2011, 21:03

Since I haven't been posting much lately I thought I would give a bit of an update on my situation.
After AF arrived, we had a follow up appointment with our FS to discuss our cycle. Just when we thought our situation couldn't get any worse, it did. He said that the reason why our fertilization rate was quite a bit lower than expected, and only 1 of our 10 embryos lasted the distance, was because of DH's poor sperm. We already knew he had low count, motility, and morphology, but we didn't realise how bad. Once the sample had been washed DH's morphology was 0%. The FS said that they struggled to find enough normal sperm to fertilize my 10 eggs.
He said that there is not really a lot that can be done to improve the situation, and that we should follow exactly the same protocol next time. He said if that doesn't work, then we can try surgically extracting a sperm sample from the testicles, as sometimes it produces a better sample if you go straight to the source.
Anyway, the only change he did suggest was to give me low dose Pregnyl from day 8 this time, due to my extremely low E2 levels last cycle. Now from my research I know that if eggs are doing what they are meant to, they will be secreting estrogen, and mine weren't, so they had to give me some Pregnyl late in the peace last cycle to help things along. I asked the FS straight out if the lack of this hormone earlier in my cycle could have affected my egg quality, and therefore fertilization and development of the embryos. He said absolutely not.
By the time I came out of the FS I was feeling a bit uneasy about things, it just didn't seem to add up. Why would he decide to give me LH from day 8 next time, if he said that it didn't make any difference to my outcome when I didn't have it last time, and why would we do everything the same in regards to DH next time? Why not just go straight to surgical extraction? It just didn't sit right.
I decided to get a second opinion from my old FS. I only left this FS, as his clinic is still very new, and he is still waiting for his paperwork so that he can start doing IVF (he has worked at other clinics for years though). He looked extremely shocked as I recounted the happenings of my cycle to him. In short, he said that not having LH at that vital time definitely would have made a difference to egg quality. He also said that going from 3 eggs on day 8, to 12 eggs on day 11 was physically impossible, and that there must have been a mistake with the scans. I then remembered that the nurse that did my scan on day 8 was training with someone looking over her shoulder, so I think a mistake is very likely. The reason this is significant though, is that if the scan had have been done properly on day 8, they would have seen then that my estrogen level didn't correlate with my follicle number, and could have given me the Pregnyl then, instead of 3 days later. So basically, they stuffed up, and they wouldn't admit it. They just tried to rescue a situation when it was already probably too late, just so they could get me to egg pick up and get their money. To say we were livid would be an understatement!
He also said that there is no point doing surgical extraction of the sperm unless we have Tunel test first to see if there is DNA fregmentation. If there is, then surgical extraction can help, as it is along the course from the testicles, to when it is ejaculated when fragmentation usually happens. But if not, then it is a waste of time and money. None of this had been mentioned to us by the other FS either!
I am so glad that I got the second opinion, but I really can't figure out why this has happened. The clinic I am going to has success rates in the top 5 % in the world, and the FS is very well regarded in this field. So what's going on!
To further complicate the situation, my accupuncturist has put DH on a variety of antioxidants/supplements as well as accupuncture to try and help the situation, but she says we should wait 3 months (from now, cos he only just started them) until we do another cycle, because of the 3 month lifecycle of the sperm. I know what she's saying is probably right, but we don't want to wait, having a month off has been bad enough!
So, since we now know that it may have been more than just DH's sperm that affected our last attempt, we have decided to go ahead as soon as we can (around the end of March). I have asked my clinic to do the Tunel test and if there are high levels of DNA fragmentation we will insist on surgical extraction this time. If that doesn't work, we will do another fresh cycle in 3 months from now, when hopefully the supplements/accupuncture may have improved things.
The only problem with this is, I don't really want to go with my current clinic after what they have done, but I have no choice since my old FS is still not operating. The only reason I am going to, is that they do have the success rates to back them up. I have been told by people that know my FS that he is very good, and although his ego means he won't admit to what went wrong last time, he will definitely take note of what happened, and rectify it this time around; let's hope so hey!

sassmata

13-03-2011, 08:45

Thanks for your post "hoping for a sticky 1"! Thanks for taking the time out to answer my question. I'll post and let you know what I find out at my scan tomorrow :)

I am a bit concerned with my responses to puregon and orgalutron. Since my first puregon injection I have had diarrhea every morning (sorry to be so disgusting). I haven't felt sick at all or had any other side effects. I rang FS and they said it wouldn't be anything to do with OHSS coz of my low AMH count. Has anyone else had this issue? I've been looking on the net and can't seem to find any answers or any complaints of anyone who has had a similar response to puregon. Also the ogralutron made me very tired and dizzy. Anyone had that response? I guess everyone's body reacts differently but was just wondering what other side effects people have had?

moomechanic

13-03-2011, 09:20

Wow patsgirl what a lot of information to try and deal with! We have our follow up appt on wed, will be interesting to see what they say, dh has poor morphology too I don't know if I could cope hearing it's worse as I am going on my own this time :s

AdelaideAli

14-03-2011, 07:16

Patsgirl, I'm so sorry you were mucked around. That's a pretty large oversight on behalf of the person doing your scan. Are you with Repromed? We had to have the Tunel and DNA tests done before we could even start so it does make me question what went on. Maybe some FS's are more thorough than others.

I'd wait and give the acupuncture a try, what have you got to lose? I know it sucks going through cycles and not trying, we've been doing it for the past 3 months as DH has low morphology which in the past has led to three miscarriages. We haven't wanted to risk getting pregnant and miscarrying again when the chances of a normal pregnancy are so low.

Best of luck with everything!

Penn

14-03-2011, 08:06

Lilybaby - just wanted to wish you lots of luck for epu today. I hope they are beautiful quality eggs. Fingers crossed for a great fert rate too. Throwing lots of baby dust your way xo

second baby not so easy

14-03-2011, 12:19

Afternoon guys,

So have had my month off and now back on IVF bandwagon - :smiliedance: and :hair:, still same levels as before but apprentatly there is a wide world shortage of Orgalutran? So they have to do a scan on cd 7 to check when to start?

To the ones that have gotten BFN :hugs::hugs: sometimes words cant describe the awful feeling

Rell - congrats on the twins :hyper:

MLZH - Congrats im so happy for you and the next 7 or so months

:wave: to all the newies - wow!!!

Lilybaby - hope EPU goes well today

AFM - still busy at work which is good but there is always TTC in your back mind. Started needles and very blaise about the needles now lol.

patsgirl

14-03-2011, 13:57

Ali: Yes, we're with Repromed, I'd better not name the FS though, although I have mentioned who I am seeing previously. I think we will decide whether to go ahead this month based on the results of the Tunel test.

Noodling

14-03-2011, 15:20

Had ET (5day ebbie)on the 2.3.11 at 2.15pm at Repromed. Blood test due on the 21st march but I couldn't wait to poas....two lines since yesterday...three sticks later and two lines there still. I pray that this is true! I'm taking crinone nightly and morning/night progynova 2mg. Heard that they don't interfer with hcg levels so praying that this might mean good news??
I'm working on mon 21st so will call tomorrow to ask if I can get the blood test done on Friday??
Do you think that this would be ok?

laurie7

14-03-2011, 16:18

Hi Girls,

Sorry I havnt been around for a bit, just having some time off to try and find things to distract myself from the 2 month break.

Noodling :fingerscrossed: for you!!

Patsgirl wow what a lot to take in you poor thing. I really hope things start to improve for you guys really soon :hugs:

Second good luck with new new cycle! A world wide shortage of Orgalutran?! :babydust1:

Lily I hope your EPU went well :fingerscrossed:

Sassmata sorry I cant help you as I didnt have any reactions like that at all. Definately give the Nurse, let us know what they say. :)

:wave::wave: to everyone else, I hope things are going well for everyone!

:babydust1: and :fingerscrossed: to all. xx

Livvyloo

14-03-2011, 17:04

Hi all :wave:

Well finally made it to March 14 where I had my scan to check my lining and hormones with the plan to schedule my FET. Things went well, lining over 8mm and a triple stripe which is apparently great according to the sonographer (who was super lovely). FET is booked in for March 21, so a week from today - WAHOO! Start my crinone on Thursday (2 per day, ack!!) and sooo looking forward to this time next week where (hopefully) I'll be PUPO again! I'm praying and hoping and praying and hoping that my two embies both survive the thaw and we get to do a 2 embie transfer, or at the very least one. FINGERS firmly crossed!!

Patsgirl - your story is just awful, talk about getting messed around! I'd be lying if I said I wasn't curious which Dr yours is from repromed, now I'm worried it's the same dr i have!! I mean, I know every case is different, but if a doc dropped the ball that badly in one situation.. then it's likely he could in another. I'm sorry that happened to you though, but glad you managed to get answers from someone else. We do put so much faith in what we're told by the doctors at these clinics, I have a suspiscion that a bit of a stuff up caused my M/C last month to be honest, but I've tried not to dwell on it. I really hope that going forward you get some proper answers though and have some good luck coming your way. :hugs:

Noodling - congrats on your double lines!!! :cheerleader1::cheerleader2: Totally awesome. Certainly sounds like it's the real thing, none of those drugs would produce a false positive!!

laurie - hope you're coping okay with your wait. THe waiting is just the absolute worst :(

patsgirl

14-03-2011, 20:09

PM'ed you Livvy, I think it worked!

MLZH

14-03-2011, 20:49

Thankyou very much secondbaby, yes we are so so happy, 5 weeks today, so really exciting, DS be just 3 months shy of 3 so perfect age, we are so very grateful to the fantastic staff of Fertility SA, good luck for your travels with IVF and fingers crossed to all cycling, i will try to update more regularly,
:):)

Andi1234

14-03-2011, 21:49

Jay - thanks for your message. Yep, finally got the go-ahead on Wednesday so started jabbing on Thursday. Our last cycle was in December so it is nice to be cycling again. Woo hoo!
Lilibaby - I was at Repro on Wednesday morning at around 7.30am too! Now I'm trying to remember back that far if I can recall who was sitting in the waiting room. I often wonder when I'm sitting there if any of the girls are from here:)

MLZH- wowee BIG CONGRATS to you :celebrate:

AFM - am feeling really tired and all round crap for some reason this cycle.The only thing I can think of is that my dosage has doubled to 300mg, whereas in the past I have only taken 150mg so maybe the stronger dose is making me a little more tired etc.
Am booked in for the first scan on Friday and possible EPU on the following Monday or else Wednesday. YAY.

Hi to everyone:wave::wave:

Andi

Winzy

14-03-2011, 22:09

Hi all on my phone so sorry if I miss anyone...
Mlzh yay on that elusive bfp! How exciting!! Wishing you all the best for the next 9 months xxx
Lily I hope that u got some nice follies today and they fertilize well everything is crossed for you xoxoxo
Patsgirl far out what a saga u have been put thru! U sound like a very intelligent person to be able to figure all that stuff out and as u say ur fs will now know u r on to it and hopefully be a bit more careful next time. I guess they have to train their drs some time it sucks when it's on our shift though. That being said a trainee did my successful transfer with the boss supervising and was sooo careful I think it helped it stick ;) best wishes for the tunel test and ur next cye xx
Sass I know I had diarhoeA mild at the start of my cycle not sure if it was when I was injecting or not but yeah I had it for a while even after I got my bfp
Noodling ooo sounds very promising! If those lines keep getting darker u could be on a winner hun xxx (just be a little wary if they get lighter cos it can sometimes mean a Chemical pregnancy (as it was for me) have a look at the poas pics in my profile if interested) but more than likely it's a bfp though esp if its getting darker! I have everything crossed for u!!!
Laurie hi there! Hope u r traveling okay and spoiling yourself a bit in the wait between cycles xx
Livvyloo best wishes for your fet this cycle let's hope this is the one xx

second baby not so easy

15-03-2011, 07:41

Noodling - :fingerscrossed: it gets darker, im the same with Winzy its a bit scary when you POAS to early

Livvy - Crionie is awesome lol

Andi - 300 wow, no wonder your not feeling the best, I have 125 and I feel yucky on that

MummyAgain

15-03-2011, 07:42

Mlzh - big congrats - enjoy every minute!

Lily - your scan sounds like mine - not many and of different sizes - always hard to know when to do epu - I like to think less is better quality so hope u had a good haul but more importantly good fert call today. Fingers crossed for you xxx

Patsgirl - oh goodness me. I'd suggest changing your FS but stay at clinic. People do it all the time so don't feel bad. Would love to know which FS you had! Also I always started asking for Anthea to do my scans - in fact I insisted and I pretty much got her each time. Once someone else had to do it and they came out and said they know I like anthea to do them but she was away that day so I must have had a reputation!! I normally had at least 2 scans so got her for at least 1 but mostly both so that was good. She is a proper scan person (yes whatever that is called) instead of just the nurse (sorry no offence if any of them read this - but it is MY FUTURE). You also might want to consider going to the repro support group - there is one girl still going that is fab and a wealth of knowledge and great to bounce ideas off! Good luck

On phone so hi to eveyone else!

AFM, all booked in for csect tomorrow. Placenta never moved enough so sticking with the plan! Having a relaxing "me" day today!

Livvyloo

15-03-2011, 08:53

Mummyagain - GL with your csect - hope it all goes well, I'm sure it will. Enjoy meeting your bubba!!

secondbaby - lol soooo hate crinone. 2 per day, can you imagine it!!? Not only is it going to cost me $170 a week (not exactly easy when IVF is so expensive in the first place) but it's just going to be disgusting in general! OOK! It's all for a good cause, let's just hope it works. What sucks is that i'll go through a whole box before i even get to my FET.. and if in the horrible event neither of my embies survive the thaw then that's $170 down the drain. Sometimes the financial side of IVF is so crap.

winzy - thanks for the luck! Right now trying to stay relaxed and hoping like nothing on earth that both our embies survive the defrost!! It's so nerve wracking!!!

Andi - good luck with your scan, hopefully you can book in your EPU - exciting!!

MLZH - you must be still bouncing off the walls with excitement :)

Patsgirl - Got your PM and pm'd you back :)

lilybaby

15-03-2011, 09:13

Hi everyone, thank you so much for your well wishes. I stayed home today cos I'm a bit sore after epu yesterday. I'll switch to my desktop in a bit so I can catch up properly with personals. (I hate doing personals on the laptop - guaranteed to drop out or fail somehow just as I get to the end :eek:).

Well as I said I'm a bit sore but it was so worth it, we ended up getting 8 eggs!!! I was totally stoked. :smiliedance: Obviously leaving them alone for the extra time gave all the small ones time to catch up. I just got the call from the lab and from our 8 we had 5 mature ones which they injected and out of the 5 of them 4 fertilised. I am so over the moon cos surely from 4 we'll end up with the 2 perfect ones we want for friday. Jeez a lot can change in a few days when ivf is involved. I was so upset last wednesday but now I'm so happy. :babydust1: :cheerleader2: :cheerleader1: :babydust1:

I hope everyone else is having a lovely day today. Be back soon with personals. :D

lilybaby

15-03-2011, 10:19

Mummyagain – it was lovely to hear from you, I think about you often. Thank you for your lovely words. I’m so excited that you get to meet your beautiful little bub tomorrow. I can’t wait to hear his name and all of the measurements. I bet DS is so excited. Enjoy your “me” day today and relax, relax, relax. Take care and good luck. :cheerleader2: :goodvibes: :cheerleader2:

Winzy – it was lovely to hear from you too and thank you also for your well wishes. I hope everything is still going really well for you and you are enjoying your pregnancy. We’ll have to try to catch up in the next few weeks so I can see your bump. Take care of yourself. :wave:

Andi – Yay for jabbing, it’s exciting isn’t it to feel like it’s all happening. It is prob the dosage making you tired, I was always on 350 prior to this cycle and then dropped to 300 this time and I always feel exhausted when I’m jabbing. Good luck for awesome results at your scan on Friday, I hope you get great numbers. :babydust1:

Livvyloo – excellent news on your scan yesterday, you must be sooo thrilled. March 21st is my Mum’s birthday so hopefully it’ll be a lucky FET day for you and both of your embies will thaw perfectly. Good luck. :goodvibes:

Laurie – I hope you are doing ok. The 2 month break is really hard. I hope you find a lot of distractions, I was never that good at distracting myself previously but this time around because I’d started a new job I didn’t have as much time to dwell on ivf. I hope the time passes quickly for you and you have good news to celebrate with your next cycle. :fingerscrossed:

Noodling – it is sounding VERY positive. Good luck, I hope your 2 lines stay put and you have a BFP to celebrate when you have your BT. :smiliedance:

2ndbaby – congrats on starting your jabbing. I hope that this is the lucky cycle for you. :fingerscrossed:

Penn - thank you for thinking of me. How are you doing? I hope your pregnancy is going well. How long until your 12 week scan? Good luck hun, I hope you have a stress free pregnancy. :goodvibes:
Sassmata – I’m always a bit “loose” in the morning too when I’ve been jabbing. I’m fairly sure it is mentioned as one of the possible side effects for puregon. Perhaps ring your FS again if you are still concerned. :D

Patsgirl – wow, that is such an awful stuff up. It makes you just feel sick inside when you realise your FS has made such a monumental mistake with our lives that way. I really hope that your next cycle works out perfectly for you, as you said they’ll definitely be double checking everything this time around. Good luck and big hugs. :hugs:

Thank you and hello to all of the other ladies who wished me well. Sorry I haven’t replied to everyone. I’m starting to feel a bit sore sitting at the computer (the panadeine hasn’t touched the sides) so I’m going to make a cup of tea and relax for a bit and then maybe go and lie down. :D

Livvyloo

15-03-2011, 10:40

Ugh a rant here ladies – I’m in struggle town this morning. After the long weekend I couldn’t believe how relaxed I was during that time, it was almost like I was a new person. I felt really calm about everything, even the IVF stuff, I had a good scan, scheduled in my FET like I’ve mentioned, and I felt really NORMAL about it all (which is altogether rare for me because I’m quite a worrier and a stress head by nature). But this morning coming to work has undone all those good feelings and I’m wound up like a tight little ball again, and it’s dawned on me what’s really and truly officially causing it (I’ve had my suspicions but this has clinched it). It’s absolutely being caused by my boss. She’s been ranting about the fact that she and her husband are “not trying” but “not trying not” to get pregnant since around about September last year, but it’s just started ramping up a notch in the last few months and she talks about it incessantly. It’s just CONSTANT and every time she mentions it I can feel myself tensing up. One of the first things she said to me this morning was that they’re now planning a trip away in July and how if she’s pregnant then she won’t be able to eat seafood. I just don’t see how that’s in any way relevant, why do I need to hear about it? She’s since brought up pregnancy, getting pregnant and working after pregnancy no less than 5 times in the space of 2 hours. It’s KILLING me. It’s hard enough being surrounded by pregnant people constantly but to have to hear about the fact that they’re trying, day in day out, and potentially within mere weeks have to find out that she’s had success (which I feel is inevitably going to happen soon) when 14 months down the track I’m still not pregnant, it’s just torture. She talks about it so often I even know when her period is due every month.. it’s just ridiculous. My workplace don’t know about my IVF situation so it’s not like I can confront her about it, and I’m not a confrontational person anyway so it’s not like I’d do that, what am I going to say “can you please stop talking about potentially getting pregnant as it’s stressing me out”?? It would sound ridiculous! But it’s driving me insane and really putting me on edge. I can only imagine how incessantly she’ll talk about BEING pregnant if she talks about TRYING to be pregnant (or “not trying not to”) this much. Sigh. :hair:
Anyway, enough about me me me.

Lilybaby - such great news about your eggs and your fertilisation rate, you have every reason to feel happy! :) Bet you can't wait until ET!! Thanks for the luck for my FET on monday, I have a feeling I'll need it, I'm starting to feel nervous!!! I can't believe it's 6 days away, it feels like that time is going to go soooo slowly!!!

Laurie - hope youre doing okay hun, feeling your pain about all the waiting, it truly sucks :(

Hi to everyone else!! :wave:

moomechanic

15-03-2011, 11:44

Lilybaby great news!!!!

Hugs Livy I think it's harder sometimes when people don't know, I curse stupid comments all the time!!!

AFM need some help!!!!! I win a trip through work to go overseas, thought wa going to be beg of April and so would skip this cycle (end march) and do the next one end of April, but this morning it's all been confirmed for beg of may. So I prob will have to skip 2 cycles and try end of may :(

What do u think my chances are of getting my fs to still let me do my next cycle this month, if I wasn't going away it would naturally happen then, only thing is if it all goes to same time line my BT for end of tww would be around same time I go overseas, so either do it few days early or try get one when I get to the uk, it's just if they will let me when I'm due to fly?!

Andi1234

15-03-2011, 11:59

Lily - well done on a great result yesterday:smiliedance::smiliedance: Good luck for ET. Have they told you when that might be yet?

Livvyloo - I think sometimes the events that take place around us can play such a big part to our daily frame of mind. I feel for you, that would be a really difficult situation to be in on a daily basis. I really don't know what advice to offer you.The only thing I could say is that I kept IVF a secret at work too until I suffered my ectopic pregnancy last year and then had to tell my bosses. Things have been so much easier since I've told them. Not sure if this is even a possbility for you but it might make a huge difference at work.

LulusMum

15-03-2011, 12:08

Lily - well done:smiliedance: surely out of the 4 there has to be a set of twinnies in there - i'll be keeping everything crossed - and yes, i would love to catch up but we're now down to 3 weekends till the twins will be here so might be hard to schedule - driving gets harder by the day too - maybe we can meet up after the bubbas come - we can cuddle one each:yes:

Livvyloo

15-03-2011, 13:14

Andi - in some ways I do think it could help confiding in work about my situation but then in others I actually don't think it would change much. I really can't tell them anyway because I'm in a contract role and if they even got a whiff of me wanting to get pregnant let alone actively trying, they'd never extend my contract come June and I'd really like to avoid that happening if I can. And at the same time, I actually think my boss would still talk about the stuff she does regardless, she's just kind of.. self absorbed. She knows I'm dealing with some sort of medical issue to do with my cycle (i had to tell her something to explain my constant doctors appointments and need for time off) and I have confessed that it may hinder our chances of having children "in the future" but have not said more than that. So she actually does know that I'm dealing with some reproductive type issues and she still does this, so it makes me think that if she did know we were doing IVF it still wouldn't matter and it'd still happen. That said, I will admit, it was the hardest thing in the world to have to suffer a miscarriage and pretend I was fine at work afterwards. Thanks for your advice, it's really tough, such varied factors in your day can affect your mood and how you cope with things in this IVF business. It's not easy!!

moo - I think you should go ahead and do the cycle, just have your pg BT a few days early, it couldn't hurt!! And that'd be super awesome too cos it means you don't have to have time off after all :) best of both worlds!

second baby not so easy

15-03-2011, 14:14

Mummy Again - wow one more day and then your holding your little one :celebrate:, enjoy this special time!

Livvy - cost of IVF is ridiculous its not the actual cycle, its the little things like FS appt, blood tests etc that are for ever coming. I made a spreadsheet so we could keep track of costing and what we paid and we are near $10,000 :eek: it will be worth it in the end, but its not knowing how much its going to cost to get it!.

Some people are really self absorbed and I have found people that have not been on IVF or have issue TTC or been close to a person that has gone through it has really no idea. It still gets me angry when I hear people whinging they cant eat seafood, cheese, wine etc - its just for a few months while you are growing something precious. I work in an enviroment with so many different people I have found the only way I deal with some of the comments its re-directing the conversation or just walking away. Sometimes life sucks :(

Lilybaby - :highfive: for EPU and :fingerscrossed:

Moo - Speak to your FS and see what they think it wont hurt to ask. I know mine is very on the whole month off :no:, but due to you going away he/she may be a bit more flexiable or they may not but at least you tried!.
I was supposed to be having a FET this month and spoke to my FS and advised I didnt want to, wanted fresh cycle as we only have 1 frostie when we had 2 frosties last time and neither survived the thaw, it was a total of 2 cycles wasted and he said I could get a more frosties before I did another FET, so she was fine with that. I also said this would be our 3rd fresh cycle and wanted 2 have 2 embies transfered back in. As we have tried a few times with only 1 and it hasnt worked so now lets go to 2. He gave me forms on the side affects of multiple pregnancy but agreed to it now.

lilybaby

15-03-2011, 14:20

Lulusmum - I sent you a PM. I cant believe you meet your 2 little bubs in just a few weeks. I am so excited for you and I cant wait to have lots of cuddles with them. :cheerleader1: :cheerleader2: :cheerleader1:

Livvy - :hugs::hugs:, some people are just so self absosrbed and thoughtless. Is there any chance you could listen to an ipad at work. (Not sure what your job is so might not be practical). Take care :hugs:

Moomechanic - I'd definitely be going on holiday even if it means bringing your BT forward. We put so much on hold with ivf so I'd be going on holidays and enjoying every minute. With any luck you'll have BFP to celebrate. :smiliedance: Good luck with your decision. :)

moomechanic

15-03-2011, 16:27

hey guys thanks!

second id still be having a month off, i think, had my first cycle got AF beg of march, so this is my month off, and then next AF at beg of april i can cycle again? or do i have that wrong, so confused at times lol

Livy if i can i will do cycle, i know some people wouldnt fly etc, but how many times do people do it without knowing? its more wether FS will let me, when we first met him and i mentioned the trip but not knowing when he mentioned something about not travelling cause problems are more likely at the beginning, but i had a pretty easy first cycle, and i know it could be different but it could also go as smoothly surely?!

and Lily thanks, but ill def be going its more about wether i do a cycle too haha! its funny i want bubs so much but i also know it is a opportunity i ownt get again for a while, and possibly going to be able to extened trip by a week, so i can go visit families i use to nanny for and also an old aunt who is like 95 (i celebrated her 90th with her) so for her it is probably my last opportunity :D

ahh the decisions hey?! well my follow up with FS tomorrow so will see what he says :)

also Livy i have to say i work in a male dominated industry and was worried about saying anything because i work my a$$ off to prove im as good as them (or better hence my trip haha!!!) but our boss started questioning supervisors about my health and a friend in a nother department who has known him for years told me to just tell him, so i did, and OMG what a relief, he was so great about it, told me i dont need to worry they have put me in the budget already for when im signed off (doing apprenticeship) so i dont need to worry about my job, he commented on how expensive it was (hope he thinks of that when revising my pay hehe), and was just really good about it, any problems just see him etc, it surprised me alot but on the other hand he has kids, and our main boss' wife just had no two, and he knows i love my job and will def be back (made sure i told him that) it made my tww a whole less stressful
i know its not that easy for everyone, but if your in a permanent position, what can they do, theyd get intoo much trouble for discrimination:gl:

digbyleigh

15-03-2011, 20:09

Lily......congratulations on having 4 perfect lil embies!! I'm feeling sooooo confident for you THIS is your cycle!!! What does is ET? Keeping everything crossed for you xxxx

digbyleigh

15-03-2011, 20:11

Sorry day* damn spellcheck!!

Maybebaby74

15-03-2011, 20:25

Maybe - :thumbsdown: for having to go through another cycle. It's good that you can do another cycle so soon :yes:. I can imagine the extra pressure you would feel with DH's parents paying for your IVF. Yay for your MRI being clear :smiliedance:, that is great news. Definately weird about the child birth injury too much :hoponbed::laughing: Did they say if this might have anything to do with your difficulty? Well :fingerscrossed: for next cycle. durning you TTC journey??????

Jaye, I realised I never responded to this question - no the torn muscle should have no impact on us getting pregnant, it is purely a numbers game for us now as I have had every test there is and all are clear. We just have to hope DH's swimmers come thru. I have him on lots of vitamins at the moment!!

I will do personals in a moment but just wanted to post this - Well AF finally arrived so I am jabbing as of sunday with EPU likely to be Wednesday 23rd but have bloods and scan next Mon so will find out then. I really hope that this will be our turn!

Winzy

15-03-2011, 21:01

Lily WOOHOO!! Stoked on your egg haul and fert rate that is just awesome :) same numbers as me in our bfp cycle have everything crossed for u and will be putting in some words with the big guy upstairs for u too ;) it would be lovely to catch up will have to do another brekkie soon!
Moo hi there tough call I had the same decision to make as to whether to go to os for work and I think it was the same timing bt whilst os. I decided not to cycle and in a way it was good cos I could relax have a few drinks and not worry about the food or the 2ww. On the other hand for me it turned into a massive wait cos I got a cyst and had to wait 5 months before I could cycle again! The fs and accu guy both tried to dissuade me from cycling before going os as apparently long distnacs air travel can get ur cycle out of whack and he stress and lack of sleep isnt really helpful either that being said i think the ultimate decision will loe with u - good luck with your decision x
Ma best wishes for your caeser wow o wow what an awesome day it is tomorrow!!
Livvyloo ah u poor thing there's nothing worse I have some letters / etiquette guides designed to help u tell ppl how to be sensitive around u that I used as ammo for a few
Convos I had with people that were really insensitive (usually well meaning but just not very emotionally intelligent people) pm if u want em xx

Maybebaby74

15-03-2011, 21:32

Limbo land

Waiting for AF

Pill Popping
Livvyloo (Progynova)

Sniffing

Jabbing
Maybebaby74
Second baby not so easy

Sniffing&Jabbing

EPU
Lilybaby 14th March

ET

FET
LivvyLoo

TWW

:cheerleader2: GRADUATES:cheerleader1:

MLZH

Hugs Needed :hugs::hugs:
Laurie

Hi all, I thought we needed an update, about to do personals so a very long post as there are so many of us!!

Livvy - seems you are having a really hard time at the moment, no advice but just be good to yourself and do what is best for you!!
Laurie - so sorry that this wasn't your month, hope you have cried all you need to and can go forward being positive and yes waiting two months really sux!!
Lilly - great rate well done, really hope that this time is your magic one!!! and all your emby's keep dividing.
Kellijh - goodluck and welcome
Catgirl - how are you going?
Oneday - hopefully you will get a better fert rate with ICSI and this will give you your BFP!
Rell - Congrats on your twin boys, one of my really good friends has twin boys about to turn 1 and they are absolutely delightful!!
MZLH - such good news on your BFP!!
Noodling - good luck with having 2 next time - remember it is our bodies and our money and we should be able to do what we want within reason!!
AdelaideAli - good luck for 21st, hope it all goes well!!
Sassmata - welcome! I cannot say about diarrhoea, normally I get really constipated (TMI) :p
Patsgirl - what an ordeal you have been through, I really hope that next time works for you. I think my FET with repromed was done too late and that is why I got a BFN but you never know. I agree with the other ladies, everyone will be much more careful this time!
2nd - Goodluck, world wide shortage of orgalutran sux! I was lucky and have 3 left over from Feb and managed to pick 2 up at last FS appt so will be fine but if this time fails could be an issue. I really hope this is our month and we are cycle buddies again!
Adi - good luck!! We will be cycle buddies too, really hope this is our time!
Mummyagain - hope you had a fantastic day and that tomorrow goes really well and you have a great delivery
Moo - I agree with everyone else, ask your FS and although flying should be fine make an informed decision after talking with FS.
Coleso - how are you going?

Well that was a lot so I really hope I didn't miss anyone, baby dust for us all :babydust1::babydust1::babydust1:

Maybebaby74

15-03-2011, 21:33

Oops, meant to say hi to Digby and Winzy - so good to hear you are both going well!! :cloud9:

jayemkayare

15-03-2011, 21:42

Limbo land

jayemkayare (still taking DHEA, next cycle Early April)

Waiting for AF

Pill Popping
Livvyloo (Progynova)

Sniffing

Jabbing
Maybebaby74
Second baby not so easy

Sniffing&Jabbing

EPU
Lilybaby 14th March

ET

FET
LivvyLoo

TWW

:cheerleader2: GRADUATES:cheerleader1:

MLZH

Hugs Needed :hugs::hugs:
Laurie

Patsgirl – I’m sorry to hear about how many mistakes were made in your cycle. It’s really bad that you find all this out at the end. Your old FS sounds like he knows his stuff. I know how hard waiting is (I’ve been waiting since oct for DHEA to kick it) but It might be worth the wait, to make sure everything is the best it can be, this process is expensive and draining.

Second – wishing you all the best for this cycle

Noodling - :fingerscrossed: those two lines stay for you

Livvy - :goodluck: for the FET next week. Sounds like everything is on track after the slightly rocky start. It’s all up to those little embies now :yes:
Sorry about your boss hon. It is hard to stop comparing your journey with everyone else, when I get into that my DH is wonderful. He says that it doesn’t matter, the only journey that matters is the one we are taking together, it’s between us and us alone. YOUR journey is special, who cares about anyone else. It really does sound like your boss is having a little (if not alot) trouble of her own though, maybe a little denial from her at the moment.

Andi – Wishing you all the best for your scan on Friday :fingerscrossed: for some good mature follicules.

Moo – would flying be too much of a concern on or at the end of a TWW. If you get that BFP, would it be playing on your mind? You may find it more relaxing and less stressful to go on your trip and then come back to IVF all fresh with now hurdles.

MummyAgain – How exciting. Sending you tonnes of :goodvibes: for tomorrow.

Lilybaby – 4 fertilised eggs – wonderful!!!!! :hyper:

Maybe – A new cycle, feels good doesn’t it. Wishing you all the best and lots of :goodvibes: :babydust1::babydust2:

Sorry if I’ve forgotten anything important, I had soooo much to catch up on. I’ve had a bad few days but getting back on track now. As always, wishing everyone well and sending lots of :babydust1: and sticky :goodvibes:

Maybebaby74

15-03-2011, 21:51

Noodling

16-03-2011, 08:51

Limbo land

jayemkayare (still taking DHEA, next cycle Early April)

Waiting for AF

Pill Popping
Livvyloo (Progynova)

Sniffing

Jabbing
Maybebaby74
Second baby not so easy

Sniffing&Jabbing

EPU
Lilybaby 14th March
Noodling 2nd March

ET
Noodling 7th March

FET
LivvyLoo

TWW
Noodling BT (19/3)

:cheerleader2: GRADUATES:cheerleader1:

Winzy

Digby

MLZH

Hugs Needed :hugs::hugs:
Laurie

Winzie and everyone who has been so positive, thankyou! I called the clinic and am very thankful to them as I couldn't make my scheduled blood test on Monday 21st so now it's on Saturday. I have had the most awful sleep this last week, awake and walking around the house from 12am to after 2am then up at 6.30am. I am concerned with the fact that this maybe a chemical pregnancy.......I am just praying that the lines don't fade. I even POAS in the middle of last night as I keep hoping the line is there. Winzie I did look at you photos (thankyou) then I shot off to the bathroom to try to compare. The things we do in the tww!:confused:

Can I ask you did you POAS all the way through the tww as I noticed you had written the dates on the sticks?

Was it a 5dt?

On egg collection were you given PREGYNL and how much was administered?

Oh I am searching for all the reasons as I now wish that I hadn't peed so early. My transfer was on the 7th of March and it was a 5dt so today is day 9 since the transfer. My egg pick up was on the 2nd of March and was given PREGYNL 1500 IU.

:( Would this still be in my system? I am hoping not :eek:

I am sorry if it seems like there has been a lack of personals, I am trying to get my head around this.......

Thanks again for all the support and well wishes:babydust1::babydust1::babydust1:
Noodling

Livvyloo

16-03-2011, 08:59

Limbo land

jayemkayare (still taking DHEA, next cycle Early April)

Waiting for AF

Pill Popping
Livvyloo (Progynova)

Sniffing

Jabbing
Maybebaby74
Second baby not so easy

Sniffing&Jabbing

EPU
Lilybaby 14th March
Noodling 2nd March

ET
Noodling 7th March

FET
LivvyLoo - 21 March

TWW
Noodling BT (19/3)

:cheerleader2: GRADUATES:cheerleader1:
Winzy

Digby

MLZH

:hugs:Hugs Needed:hugs:
Laurie

Just updating my FET date. :fingerscrossed:

patsgirl

16-03-2011, 09:02

Just updating myself on the list!

Limbo land

jayemkayare (still taking DHEA, next cycle Early April)

Waiting for AF

Pill Popping
Livvyloo (Progynova)
Patsgirl

Sniffing

Jabbing
Maybebaby74
Second baby not so easy

Sniffing&Jabbing

EPU
Lilybaby 14th March
Noodling 2nd March

ET
Noodling 7th March

FET
LivvyLoo

TWW
Noodling BT (19/3)

:cheerleader2: GRADUATES:cheerleader1:

Winzy

Digby

MLZH

Hugs Needed :hugs::hugs:
Laurie

Livvyloo

16-03-2011, 09:16

Noodling - oh you poor love, sounds like you are stressing :( :hugs: I'm glad you could get your BT moved up because it sounds like you need to know either way. Don't worry too much about HPT's, they're not the be all and end all. When I had a BFP last month which was confirmed by a BT I went out and bought a HPT just because I finally wanted to see double lines.. I KNEW my HCG levels were at 500 because the nurse had told me so, but the second line on the test which I was expecting to be SOOOO dark, was visible, but was very faint. And this was with first response too!! Don't worry too much, fingers crossed for you love.

JayKay - Thanks so much for the luck, I feel like I'll need it. For some reason I feel really blue about the whole thing today. I have this awful feeling that my embies won't survive or I just won't get pregnant. I know the negative thoughts are helping but I just can't seem to let them go today :( I love what your DH says to you about the only journey mattering is your own. Thanks for telling me that, I think I'm going to take that around with me today and hopefully it might make me feel a bit better about things. I'm hoping my boss doesn't start gadding on about her "imminent" pregnancy today.. I need a break from it :( I was wondering if perhaps she might be having some trouble considering they've been "not trying not" to get pregnant for around 6 months now it seems.. but she's so loud and full of gusto about how she'll be pregnant soon it seems impossible that they can be experiencing any difficulty.. surely if they were she'd stop talking about it!?!

Maybe - Thanks for the thoughts and advice. I'm certainly going to try and be good to myself, even if that involves eating something delicious and chocolatey to cheer myself up hhehe

Winzy - thanks hun, I PM'd you!

Hi to everyone else :wave:

AFM - Feeling a bit blue today.. just like there's no chance that my fet will happen monday cos my embies will probably not survive or if it does that it won't work and i won't get pregnant. Stupid negative thoughts :( wish i could get rid of them!!

Shy1

16-03-2011, 10:17

Her little boy!!!

Charlie Jay arrived into the world at 7.30am this morning weighing 3.2kg!

Mummy and bubs and DH and H doing well!

Congratulations to you all, I hope you enjoy your little bundle of joy! Can't wait to meet Charlie xxxx

second baby not so easy

16-03-2011, 11:37

Mummyagain - yeah!!! defiantly a mummy again lol

Livvy - :hugs: IVF is defiantly a roller coaster I sometimes feel biopolar with it all. One minute im really positive its going to work, the next minute feel like crying and its never going to happan. The one thing that keeps me pushing through is seeing so many girls on here what they have done to get there babies is amazing and there is hope that it will happan one day! (just hurry the f*7ck up lol) another :hugs:

Noodling - :hugs: the 2ww is awful and you cant sleep as soooo many things are running in your mind. I normally have a 31 day cycle, so i only POAS on cd31 so that meant no medication would have been left in my system by then. It was positive and resulted in early m/c :( in one way it was good to actually see a second line after 2.5 yrs with only 1 line ttc. A lot of the girls just POAs everyday and aslong as it doesnt fade that is a good sign? I think?

moomechanic

16-03-2011, 16:30

had our follow up meeting today, DH couldnt make it due to to work, but FS said it all went well 10 eggs was good, would have expected 8 not 4 to fertilise and increase chance of frosties, but that that was the only down side, the rest went well, said he was still waiting on further Sperm analysis results that they do, but wanted DH to go in and sign some stuff (but it has me thinking maybe there is something he didnt want to tell me :S)

Booked next cycle for end of May, decided against trying to rush one in before my trip, as too hectic if i have to try carry crinone around with me, so a bit longer wait, but joined weight watchers to see if i can lose %10 before the next one :)

Livvyloo

16-03-2011, 17:47

secondbaby - that's soooo it, IVF is totally bringing out the bipolar in me lol. You're right though, this place does give hope that it can happen for all of us.. but hurry the frick up is right!!! lol.

moo - good on you for making the decision not to rush the next cycle, just go away and enjoy your amazing holiday without having to worry about medications or doing anything but enjoying yourself! Good news that your FS was positive about the outcome of your cycle too. Don't worry though I'm sure he doesn't have anything to tell your hubby that he wouldn't be telling you.

AFM - not feeling AS depressed as this morn.. just about half as depressed. Not as good as the weekend though.. bummer. Today my boss started talking about how her hubby wants to take naked photos of her before she gets all fat and pregnant. I just hate the way she talks about pregnancy like it's a foregone conclusion and like it happens so easily. It just comes across as so ignorant and arrogant. But it's people like that that DON'T have troubles conceiving and people who are more cautious and quiet about things that end up with the struggle :( seems unfair!

lilybaby

16-03-2011, 17:59

:celebrate: Congratulations MummyAgain, DH and DS on the safe arrival of Charlie. :celebrate: I hope you are enjoying this special time with your family of 4. xxx

jayemkayare

16-03-2011, 19:05

Noodling - :fingerscrossed: for that BT. Another BFP would be so wonderful. As longs as that second line doesn’t fade, you would have to be hopeful. I think I read somewhere that the Pregnyl is out of your system in 7 days.

Moo – that FS appointment sounds really positive. Don’t look for things hon, I’m sure he would have told you. Enjoy your trip and then come back and get UTD :hyper:

Livvy – Your bosses DH wants to take photos before she gets “fat” what a gerk. My DH talks about getting photos while I’m pregnant, I think it’s nice that guys find pregnant bodies attractive. Not sexually, oh, you know what I mean.

Andi1234

16-03-2011, 19:12

Firstly - Mummyagain CONGRATULATIONS on the birth of Charlie:cheerleader2::cheerleader2:. It's a cute name. Your news has put a smile on my face today and I'm sure on others too:)

Thought I'd add myself to the roll call:

Limbo land

jayemkayare (still taking DHEA, next cycle Early April)

Waiting for AF

Pill Popping
Livvyloo (Progynova)

Sniffing

Jabbing
Maybebaby74
Second baby not so easy

Sniffing&Jabbing

Andi-sniffing,jabbing & taking pregniselrone tablets

EPU
Lilybaby 14th March
Noodling 2nd March

ET
Noodling 7th March

FET
LivvyLoo - 21 March

TWW
Noodling BT (19/3)

:cheerleader2: GRADUATES:cheerleader1:
Winzy

Digby

MLZH

:hugs:Hugs Needed:hugs:
Laurie

Maybebaby74 -looks like we are cycle buddies this month;) I'm hoping EPU will be on Monday but scan and blood test this Friday will confirm this. If not,it will be on Wednesday. Did you say EPU might be Wednesday for you too?

MummyAgain

16-03-2011, 20:13

Thanks ladies!! All good here now - not the smoothest of births due to placenta previa - lost a third of my blood and needed transfusion and then Charlie lost some too so he is on drip in nursery but I am able to get wheeled in for cuddles!
Love to you all and sending lots of baby dust your way. Xxxx

Winzy

16-03-2011, 21:26

Noodling hi there! The 2ww is soooo hard!! Having 2 lines is definately a good sign girl! I think it's a 3 in 4 chance that it will be a positive BT and a 1 in 4 of a chem. I think I stopped poas for a cuppla days then did it again and it had faded heaps then I had some spotting and it all started to crumble BUT it's a good sign that your bod is producing all the right chemicals at the moment and odds are on your side that it will be a bfp at bt so I have everything crossed for u!!!
Livvyloo will email u that stuff when I can get on the pooter dh is hogging it tonight grrr I think a subtle word with your boss is definatley in order and these letters might help x

second baby not so easy

16-03-2011, 21:36

Livvy- ur boss just sounds lile a real treat!
Moo- enjoy ur holiday and being on ww will definatly help

Mummyagain - rest up amd enjoy ur little man. Keep us updated on how it is all going.

laurie7

17-03-2011, 15:41

Sorry girls this is going to be all about me as I have limited time on my computer at the moment - sorry!

Question - I got my period a couple of weeks ago after our antagnist short cycle, got af on Sat 5th to be exact (definately af no questions about it). I have period like pains today and have had some bleeding, not heavy but not spotting either. It has slowly dwindled as the day has gone on, it will be interesting to see if it gets any heavier as it is very similar to when I normally get af, I would get this type of bleeding beforehand.

Has anyone else had this, is it just the drugs leaving my system so its still a bit out of whack?

Thankyou so much and sorry again! :wave: :wave: :wave:

xx

Andi1234

17-03-2011, 17:48

Laurie7 - Sorry, can't help much. This hasn't happened to me before on any previous cycles, both short and long down reg.
Are you with Repro?? The after hours mobile phone is being answer by Dr Henshaw tonight. He's one of the owners of Repro and really experienced so maybe call through to that phone and you might get some free expert advice. Not often we get it for free!! I was really shocked when I called about an hour ago and he answered... I blabbered through my question nervously like I was talking to god or something:laughing::laughing:
Stupid me forgot to take my steriod tablets this morning for my Ademyosis and I couldn't get home during the day to take them. Luckily he tells me it's no problem and I took them when I got home tonight. Phew:eek:

Maybebaby74

17-03-2011, 22:07

Hey Andi, we will be cycle buddies but I will be a couple of days behind you. I have bloods and scan on Mon with EPU either Wed or Fri really tired at the moment though!

Livvyloo

18-03-2011, 08:33

Wow, I had no idea Repromed even HAD an after hours phone service!! How do you even get through to it?

jayemkayare

18-03-2011, 09:12

Oh oh, now there in trouble Livvy knows they have an after hours number :laughing: !!!! Livvy, if you have issues after hours then I'm pretty sure if you call the clinic the after hours number is on the message. It is also on the paperwork they give you when you start a cycle (I think). They should have told you about it, it is really important that everyone knows.

Andi - I had Henshaw for my ET, and I assure you, he is NOT god. Just a very rich man.

MLZH

18-03-2011, 11:29

HaHa Jayem i like your last comment i agree just a rich man. I would be switching to Fertility Sa as quick as you could they are all very good but i can only speak from our experience with Prof Norman, just a fantastic man to deal with, so so very genuine, anyone out there looking for a new FS please go to him (thats my rant for the day)
All is good 6 weeks on Monday and feel great. Makes easy with our little man who is soo so good:wave:

kellijh

18-03-2011, 13:15

Hi All,

Just thought i'd stick my head in and say hello - its been a while!

Firstly, congrats to everyone on their BFP's! What wonderful news. For those who didnt get the greatest news THIS TIME, Big hugs to you.

I'm feeling really down myself at the moment. I am trying so hard on my weightloss, have started metformin and Clomid 2 weeks ago and I'm just all over the place. At 129kg i know i need to continue the weighloss fight but due to this, i've convinced myself that not in a million years will IVF work and that i will never get that BFP i'm after.

We're booked in for ICSI in June. One minute i think - yep this can work and the next i think - nope, stats are all against obese women falling pregnant so of course it wont work.

To be honest, you BH girls keep me going and i do draw inspiration from your stories.

I know that PCOS is partly to blame for my weight etc, but really, can this be the one thing to stand in my way - the fact that i did stack on so much weight!?

Sorry to rant but i really needed too!

Hugs and baby dust to all!! Lets keep up the good fight - even when it does drag us down......

K

:babydust1::babydust1:

Livvyloo

18-03-2011, 14:01

Kellijh - sorry to hear that you're not feeling too great about everything :hugs: it's such a tough time this IVF process, it's hard not to doubt everything. I don't know much about the stats of being overweight and it affecting pregnancy but what I can say is that don't let it get to you too much, you're doing everything you can, it's even harder on fertility treatment to keep weight down (I'm small but I definitely notice a difference when I'm on the drugs!!!) and you're in the best position you can to get pregnant at least with the help of your fertility specialist. Don't give up, it can happen, and I see bigger pregnant women all the time, so there's absolutely hope!!! Just do everything you can to be happy and healthy and try to be as stress free as possible (not easy I know!!)

jaykay - i can't believe I didn't know about the after hours number. Ill have to call after hours at some point and write down the number. I always just assumed if anything went wrong after hours I'd just have to wait until working hours to call!

lilybaby

18-03-2011, 18:09

Hi ladies,
Just a quick one to say that I am now PUPO with twins :highfive: and feeling so happy at the moment. Both embies were the right number of cells for 4 dayers and were looking really good. One was slightly ahead of the other but the embryologist said both were great. They are leaving the other 2 for another day or 2 before they decide if they'll freeze them or not. They are both a bit slower but may still make it to the freezer, I'll find out on Tuesday. All in all it has been a fantastic day for me and DP. Now the 2ww begins - our BT isn't until Saturday fortnight so :fingerscrossed: :goodvibes: :fingerscrossed: that I finally get my BFP this time. I have to say for the 1st time in a long time I'm feeling really good about my ET and the prospect of this cycle actually working. Anyway, enough of my rambling - take care everyone and here's some :babydust1::babydust1::babydust1: for all of us.

jayemkayare

18-03-2011, 18:26

Kellijh – I wish you all the best with your weight loss. And it is definitely still possible for you to get a BFP. Weight is not the only factor, you’ve been doing all the right things and I think a healthy diet at the time is just as important as weight, if not more. Don’t give up :cheerleader1: Bring on June!!!!

Lillybaby – Congratulations on being PUPO :celebrate: Hopefully the other two will make it :fingerscrossed: and that you won’t need them for a while :babydust1::babydust2::goodluck:

moomechanic

18-03-2011, 19:22

Hi Kellijh
Good luck with the weight loss, I've just started before my next cycle end of may so will see u in June :)

Andi1234

18-03-2011, 19:35

Livvyloo - YEAH definitely an after hours service. The doctors must take it in turns to take the mobile phone home each night cause I've needed to phone a few times now and get a different person each time.
Jayem- Hhhmm Dr Henshaw, he freaked me out but I agree... one rich rich rich man.
Maybebaby74 - YAY cycle buddies. I had my bloods and scan this morning. 9 mature folliesand afew more immature ones. I'm bookedin for egg pickup on Monday.Good luck for your scan on Monday xx
Lillibaby -good luck with your tww
Kellijh - sorry to hear you are feeling down ATM. I wish you all the best with the weightloss goals. At least this is something that is within your control to some degree. Good luck with everything:hugs:And, feel freeto rant anytime !

Hope everyone ha a nice weekend. I'll be taking it easy in preparation for EPU on Monday. I've had such a bad cold all week and have taken 3 days off work trying to get rid of it before EPU. I really don't want to be sick next week and especially for ET.
:babydust1: to all xx

jaytee

19-03-2011, 08:36

Hi ladies, this is only going to be quick...
Well I was waiting fOr af to arrive so I could book in a blood test for the fs. Well this morning I had a strange feelIng, so took a hot and guess what???? BFP!!!!!!!!!!!! It still hasn't sunk in! Period was only due today so fingers crossed this one sticks and stays there!!! OMG can't bel

jayemkayare

19-03-2011, 09:16

OMG jaytee :highfive: I'm lost for words. That is absolutely amazing. Enjoy the next 9 months on :Cloud9Blue: luv.

:smiliedance: Congratulations :smiliedance:

jaytee

19-03-2011, 09:25

I know!!! Thanks:) I'm still not really sure if I should get too excited because it is very early days still but just can't help myself! I rang dh straight away and he was so shocked he almost cried from joy!!!

Maybebaby74

19-03-2011, 11:20

Yay Jaytee, that is the news we all want to hear! Congratulations and hope to hear more news in the future. Yay!!!!
Andi - things are looking good for you EPU I think you will get some good eggies! I will let you know how i go on Monday

Noodling

19-03-2011, 11:45

Woohooo blood test hcg 419 or 490 I am not too sure as I was crying.....will call the clinic back to confirm.:smiliedance::smiliedance:

So very excited, can't believe it!! Just arrived home, I am not sure what I am typing as I just am too excited. Thank you to everyone for the support and advice, :babydust1::babydust1: to all

xxx
Nattie:smiliedance::smiliedance::smiliedance::smil iedance:

Andi1234

19-03-2011, 13:55

Noodling - that is a lovely phone call isn't it!! Enjoy the moment. :cheerleader1::cheerleader2::cheerleader1::cheerle ader2::hyper::hyper:CONGRATS:cheerleader1::cheerle ader2::cheerleader1::cheerleader2::hyper::hyper:

Livvyloo

19-03-2011, 15:14

Big congrats to Noodling and Jaytee on their BFP's! WOW Jaytee, getting a natural BFP while you're just waiting to book in with your FS is like the DREAM! Lol congratulations :) :)

laurie7

19-03-2011, 15:51

Congratulations Jaytee and Noodling :hyper: :smiliedance: :goodvibes: :celebrate:

moomechanic

19-03-2011, 18:09

Congrats to noodling and jayteeon their BFP's! :smiliedance::smiliedance:

:cheerleader2:how exciting!!!!:cheerleader1:

AFM just got home from seeing a precious little ICSI pixie, still in the special care section as he was 5 weeks prem, but oh it was such a beautiful thing to see, proof it can happen :hyper:

digbyleigh

19-03-2011, 19:13

Congratulations Jaytee & Noodling that's fantastic news & just what we all like to hear! Be sure to come & say g'day at the Adelaide bumps to babies thread :)

Lilybaby......congrats again in being PUPO with two beautiful embies. Fingerscrossed the other 2 make it to the freezer for more babies in the future! For now stick lil embies stick, your mummy has been sooooo strong & determined for so long now. As you may have guessed I've spoken to the man up top & everythings crossed sooooo tight for you it has to work xxxxx

Hi to everyone else & a big hello to the newbies! For those who mentioned the after hours no at Repro it's a great service which I've used a few times in the past. Once a few days after EPU as it was the weekend & I was feeling very crampy & sick & wanted to get it all sorted before Monday's ET. I can't remember which dr I had but the great thing is whoever is on "after hours call duty" has access to look up all your details straight away so it's DEFINATLY the next best thing to speaking to your own specialist. As for RH yes he most certainly is a rich man but also a VERY nice one. He was our specialist for five cycles & we always found him very easy to talk too & we always felt he was the right specialist for us. We can't wait to catchup with him once bubs is born & thank him again :)

Sending babydust to all those who need it, & good sticky vibes for all in the TWW. It's great to hear we have some more BFP's this week, let's hope we have MANY more over the next few weeks xxxx