SEPTEMBER 2006 Springtime Mum'n'bubs

[Wondermum]

:wave: Welcome September 2006 mummies! Oh, I'm just so excited :smiliedance: .....and I haven't even popped it out yet!

:fingerscrossed: Hope to be chatting with you all VERY soon :)

[DellaWellaWoman]

Not long to go now though Wondermum!!!

I think I'll stick with the September group even though Brylee decided to arrive early on the 28th of August...

[Wondermum]

:wave: Debbie,

How are things going with you and little Brylee, you know the sleeping/ feeding etc? BTW I luuurrve the name you chose :thumbsup:

See you around here soon :hugs:

Take care,
Jess

[Sassy]

How is everyone going with their new babies? Jasmine is my first and is now 3 days old. I'm breastfeeding and she seems to be going well however, she is throwing up quite a lot of milk after each feed. Does anyone have any ideas on how long I should hold her after she comes off my breast before I put her in the bassinet?

Cathryn

[DellaWellaWoman]

Jess - we're doing well - Brylee's back to her birth weight, and we're off to the hospital's post-natal clinic for a weigh tomorrow, so hopefully she'll have gained a bit more weight (she's a small baby so they wanted to make sure she was gaining).

We're still breastfeeding and then expressing to top her up (I never thought I'd be buying so many syringes!!), so feed time is rather involved - b/f, top up, then express :eek: so it all takes about an hour and a half which sometimes doesn't leave much time for sleep. Speaking of which she's asleep in my arms right now - I think I'm going to be a gun one-handed typist :thumbsup:

Cathryn - I'm afraid I can't really help with the throwing up, but we "burp" Brylee for a few minutes or until she has a good burp or two - I hope things improve for you soon.

I think I'd better go and express now - I have to wait until she's asleep now as DP has gone back to work today - two sets of hands is definitely easier!

[ElizaDee]

Hiya I will move over to this thread now, didn't see it before but then again Spencer was being a bit painful the last few days. All he wants to do it eat and my boobies are so sore. But last night we slept together in our bed and we both got a good sleep. :yes: Has made him a different bubba!

He is now alseep again and has been since 10am! Hope he wakes soon my boobies are just about busting. Going to have to express so he can latch!

At least they are getting some good healing time while he sleeps, I just hope this doesn't mean that now he will not sleep tonight! I am hoping that he will sleep in his cot tonight, as much as I love being with him my sleep isnt as good when I am watching out for him too. :rolleyes:

[wattle]

Hi September mummies. Just thought I'd pop in and say hi. Dd was born on 27th August so she only just missed out on being a september bub.

The first two weeks were great, but she's starting to be a lot harder to settle now, and is very windy. (poor little thing) She's a real night owl, so I haven't had much sleep since she was born. Life is very very busy with a newborn and a toddler!!

Lovely to have these supportive threads.

[DellaWellaWoman]

Wattle, our DD decided to put in an early appearance too, but I'm sticking with the September group anyway - I haven't even looked at the August threads so don't know anyone there!

Sleep - it's something I vaguely remember - our LO has decided sleeping during the day and being awake at night is the way to go :gloomy: I'm just hoping she changes her mind soon!

Eliza, I know what you mean re the bursting boobies - I'm about to go & wake Brylee up as I can't wait any longer (and it's been about 4 hours anyway - why did she have to sleep through dinner? I'm sure it means she'll be wide awake about 2am :no: )

Hope everyone else is doing well...

[jessi]

Hi September Mummies! I only just missed out too!! Elsha came 2 weeks early!! (originally due Sept 9th) She is 3 weeks old today :smiliedance: although- im definatly not coping with the lack of sleep!! She just wont sleep for me.. but as soon as she gets put in Daddys arms, off she goes!
Cant wait to see all the Sept Mummies here with their bubs... :) Best of luck to those who havent had the bubs yet and congrats to those who have! :D

[ElizaDee]

Well it would appear that my little man is no different sleeps well during the day but not at night!:banghead: All night long all he wants is boobie:eek: Had to take him to bed with me the other night just to get some sleep! I was overtired and crying!

[DellaWellaWoman]

Eliza, you're not the only one!!

Just about every night since we got home from hospital I've slept in the spare room with Brylee. It got a bit better after I figured out how to feed her in bed lying down tho - at least I can doze while she sucks away...

It's a pity the little ones seem to have their body clocks out by about 12 hours - I can get her to sleep in her cot (we've got a pillow under one end to raise it a little, and she has her Barbie radio on, LOL) or the pram (supervised) during the day but she won't have a bar of it come night time...

Jessi - I think we're all in the same boat - I just keep telling myself it HAS to get better (PLEASE let it get better!!!!) - and I'll have hubby home all day over the weekend, so I'm going to try to catch up on an hour or two then - plus I'll get him to give me a hand at night trying to get Brylee to sleep in her cot - I figure with 2 of us it has to be easier (I've been trying to let him sleep during the week as he has to be able to function at work).

Hang in there everyone!!

Sorry, couldn't resist editing to say I now have an avatar :)

[*butterflykisses*]

hey sept. mummies

i totally forogt this was here :laughing:

how are all the little bubbas doing ???there are all so cute

i hear on the lack of sleep part
my bed has been the lounge room since being home i cant sleep in my bed for some reason but last night Amelia decided to be a pain and keep me up all night which is unusal for her she was sleeping 6 hours overnight

Amelia is breast feeding great ive had no troubles with her thank god with the boys it was hell

Amelia is now 2 weeks and 1 day old :D

anyway i better go she is crying (i think she needs a bum change AGAIN)

[busylizzy]

How is everyone going with their new babies? Jasmine is my first and is now 3 days old. I'm breastfeeding and she seems to be going well however, she is throwing up quite a lot of milk after each feed. Does anyone have any ideas on how long I should hold her after she comes off my breast before I put her in the bassinet?

Cathryn

Have you tried changing her nappy before a feed instead of after & tried raising the top end of her bassinet? Just some ideas to help keep the milk down, hope it helps. Oh, & congrats on the new bub.:)
P.S. Always looks like they've thrown up more than they actually have.

[busylizzy]

Debbie - LOVE the new avatar, soooo cute!!!:yelclap:

[DellaWellaWoman]

anyway i better go she is crying (i think she needs a bum change AGAIN)

Ohhh how I hear you on the nappy change thing!!!

Brylee's an eating, pooing and sometimes sleeping machine - we went through a box (108) of nappies in abput 10 days :eek:

[*butterflykisses*]

LOL

Amelia Loves to have her bum changed then 1 minute later does a nice big one for me LOL
oh and she loves to stop half way through a fed just to do one

Brian has just taken the 2 boys to the beach, i was asleep on the lounge with Amelia so i think they got bored LOL, nah its nice now he houe is quiet and i dont have to stress about anyone but her right now

[DellaWellaWoman]

Well not much news for me lately - we're still breastfeeding (I'm getting breastfeeding elbow I think - sorta like tennis elbow, but you get the picture :) ), Brylee's still pooping (before, during and after feeds it sometimes seems!) and sleeping less during the day now :confused: but not seeming to sleep more at night?? She's generally awake-ish from about midday through to 6pm - has snoozes at the milk bar, but as soon as you try to move her to her bed (or anywhere else for that matter) she starts doing her baby sparrow impersonation wanting more food, so I'm starting to feel like Daisy the cow :crying:

Oh well, she's 3 weeks old tomorrow :yelclap: so hopefully things will start improving soon, and apparently there's a 3 week growth spurt so that might explain all the extra eating she seems to want to do!

Hope everyone else is going well...

[*butterflykisses*]

just a little update

i am going to the Dr's later to get my blood results back
im so nervous i really hope they are OK
i also need to get my scar checked out its hurting me ATM
im also getting Amelia's tongue checked yesterday i noticed its is shaped strangely and im not too happy about it my aunt thinks its the skin under the tongue being to short and pulling the tongue back to make a weird shape

yes so that's my exciting news for today LOL

Amelia had a bad morning got up for her 3:30am feed and everytime i lied her back down she would scream im pretty sure she is still having trouble with bringing up wind so this sound s like it caused that this morning she finally went to sleep though

anyway i better go get ready
today is the first day i drive since having me c/s wish me luck LOL

[DellaWellaWoman]

Hope everything went well BFK!

That first drive post baby (and I didn't have a c/s) is a bit daunting isn't it?

[DellaWellaWoman]

Helloooooooooooooooooooo anyone home??

I don't really have much to report, other than we've had the MIL & FIL staying, so I haven't been online much in the last couple of days - and was surprised to see there are no new posts here!!

Brylee's been sleeping better (and longer - I had to express milk at 3am so she could attach!), which means I'm sleeping better too :yelclap: - the mumma's almost feeling human!! I even managed to colour my hair (more to cover grey than anything else) today! Possibly off to the hairdresser's next week for the trim I was going to have "in the week off before the baby arrives" that never eventuated 'cos she came 2 weeks early :rolleyes:

Hope everyone's well...

[ElizaDee]

We are sorting out our sleeping issues too Della, Spencer still wants to wake during the dinner time and prime time telly! :eek: Doesn't the boy know that you can't be awake during TV time :laughing: Oh well at least it is rating season!

We had our second outing today went to the shops again! Mummy loves the shops. He slept most of the time then awoke for boobie just as we hit the check out at Big W luckily daddy was with us and he paid for the goodies while Spencer and I headed to the parents room. He got his boobie and nappy changed and back to sleep so we could continue.

Just hope he doesn't wake from this nap and not want to go to sleep again during dinner, its so hard to make and eat dinner with a baby that just screams! :shame:

[DellaWellaWoman]

Our bubs must be on the same wavelength - Brylee slept most of our trip around Pac Fair (it was a quick trip mind you), and started screaming for boobie just as we were driving out - the poor thing cried for food the whole trip home - lucky it's only a short trip for us!

And the dinner time awake thing? Hubby's been doing a LOT of cooking at our place lately while I sit feeding... and feeding... and feeding...

Fingers crossed she sleeps well tonight - last night I managed to sleep in "our" bed, as opposed to sleeping in the spare room - our bed is much nicer I must say!

[Tamryn]

My little baby girl was born a week early (I was induced cos of high bp and protein) on the 6th September weighing 2.98kg and measuring 50cm.
Her name is Jennifer and she is a very good baby who feeds every 4hrs sleeps well after feeds and doesn't cry much.
There has been a few times though when she had a growth spurt where I've let her sleep in bed with me so I don't have to get out of bed. We tried getting her to sleep in her camp cot next to the bed at night and sleep in her pram during the day but now she sleeps in her pram at night aswell. I think maybe the cot is too big and not as cosy as the pram.
Also in the hospital the elevated her bed I can't do that in the cot but the pram I can that's probably the other reason why she prefers it.

[ElizaDee]

And the dinner time awake thing? Hubby's been doing a LOT of cooking at our place lately while I sit feeding... and feeding... and feeding...


Yep same here, hubby is getting good at cooking :) I can get through the dinner feeding by holding him while he sleeps, as soon as I put him in his bassinett he screams. So I sit holding him while DH cooks. :thumbsup:

[*butterflykisses*]

hey everyone:wave:

Amelia is doing well
she is sleeping 7pm til midnight than again til 4am then again til 7am (roughly)
im so happy with that right now
she has bad reflux though which is driving me a bit insane i have to changer both of us a million times a day ATM
im taking her to the nurse again on Monday to see how much she has gained:D

starting expressing today to get into practice for when i go out and eventually go back to work (Ive never been good at expressing milk)

oh Amelia also has a blocked nose i went to the chemist and bought the Fess little noses one to help her so hopefully this works and she can breathe easier when she feeds

im so tired i wish my levels would go up faster, im so weak and im so sick of it
i feel like im 60 years old :(
im a little down ATM but im hoping it passes and it doesn't turn into PND again
its my bday in a few weeks and i cant get excited about it
Brian keeps asking me what i want to do but all i want to do is sit at home and have a big fat yummy cake that's it
all i want for my bday is a hair cut and dyed and a new outfit for my night out and that's it

anyway i better get to bed before Amelia wakes for her midnight feed:rolleyes:

PS. sorry for goin on and on and on LOL

[*butterflykisses*]

nah she is putting on plenty of weight so they said i will just have to ride it out if she was bottle feed they could put her on a thicker formula ( had to for Bj for a month or 2)

she did great last night slept til 2am but than it took me til 3:30am to get her to sleep (thanks to her blocked nose and she has bad wind atm im praying it doesnt turn into colic ) then she slept til 6:30am but i fell alseep feeding her LOL so she woke me up at 7:30 for more

she is asleep on me atm poor thing everytime i lye her down she sceams thanks to her wind atm so i dont mind holding her till she is in a deeper sleep

how are all your bubbas doing ???
hows everyones bub taking to the weather??
Amelia doesnt mind it thank goodness she can sleep unwrapped sometimes she isnt to fussed about being tightly wrapped either

god i talk alot LOL better go and finish gettin Brian ready for work

[*butterflykisses*]

:smiliedance: to Logan on his feeding
once he starts eating more i bet he sleeps more
my boys where on the clock eaters
Bj every 3 hours and Cameron was every 2 hours
its a nice break to have Amelia she feeds when she wants to LOL usually every 3 hours during the day then 4-6 hours over night
but it changes so much with her (she likes to have top ups alot )

gotta go bj and cameron want a movie on in my room

[DellaWellaWoman]

Kylie-ann I hope you start to feel better soon :hugs: and Amelia too - it's no fun being sick :no:

Cassie - I've got Kaz Cooke's Kid Wrangling too - I had to get it after reading her Up The Duff while I was pregnant. I shouldn't read it while I'm feeding Brylee tho - it hurts when I laugh too hard :eek: - nipples should be elasticised for this purpose. And yep, I know everyone's talking in the Pregnant group at the moment - I try to keep up but yikes when you put us all together can we talk!!

Tamryn - Brylee also seems to like having her head higher than her bum too - one of the midwives suggested putting a pillow under one end of the cot mattress and it seems to have done the trick (alomg with her Barbie radio for background noise)

Brylee seems to have started her cluster feeding early today *sigh* so you can guess what I'll be doing for the next 4-6 hours...

[*butterflykisses*]

Why is it they always have that decent nap at the wrong time

LOL im always sayin that about Amelia
someone will come to visit us and she will sleep the whole time they are there :laughing: cheeky thing she is

Amelia just had a bath and her hair has gone all fluffy its so cute

ohoh Amelia smiled yesterday :D but she hasnt done it again

DellaWellaWoman- whats cluster feeding?? is that where they feed alot in a small amout of time instead of having one big feed (sorry i have no brains atm)

Cassie i hope your nurse visit goes well and Logan goes back to sleep after she leaves
Amelia wants a feed after seeing the nurse for some reason LOL even if she just had one


Tamryn - we had to use the pillow trick for Bj it worked wonders i hope it workls for you as well

well i better go im meant to be gettin dressed
we are going out for dinner for Brians brothers 30th
this will be my first time breast feeding in public (they dont have a baby room where we are going) gotta remember to take an extra blanket LOL

[ElizaDee]

oh my gosh we had a great day yesterday, went shopping and only woke once for boobie and a nappy change, came home and continued to sleep. Then we watched a movie downstairs in the media room, where we woke for a boobie and went back to sleep. Then at 11:30pm we woke and didn't sleep until 4am and then only got 2.5hrs sleep!:banghead: Then we had a nap at about 12 - 3pm and we are still awake and daddy is trying to get us to sleep!

I have heard about this 3 week change in habbits, and growth spurt anyone else heard about this or is experiencing this? He is officially 3 weeks at 9:23pm tonight!

:sleeping: :sleeping: How I miss you!

We even had a bath this morning in an attempt to sleep but that didin't work. :(

[DellaWellaWoman]

Hi Kylie-anne - yep, cluster feeding's where they feed, feed, feed for what can be hours on end (left, right, left, right, etc). Brylee generally cluster feeds from about lunchtime to 4/5pm with the occasional catnap in between. The rest of the time she feeds "normally" - last night it was 10, 2 and 7.

Eliza, Brylee went through the 3 week growth spurt last week - unsettled and cluster feeding more than usual :eek: (my poor boobies - I'm thinking of changing my name to Daisy the MooCow). I don't think there's a guarantee all babies go through it at exactly 3 weeks, but we did, and I guess some bubs might skip it?

At this stage I don't think I'll be leaving the house much this week - I try to sleep when she sleeps in the mornings, and we seem to be constantly feeding in the afternoons which sorta makes going anywhere more of a chore than anything... Might go to Coles just up the road in the pram if I get bored (how exciting, lol)

[fruitjuice]

I didn't realise how elated you feel after the birth - I'm still on a high! I am so much closer to my whole family, and it feels as if DP's family is my family now too. And I didn't think I could love DF more than I already did, but he is soooooooo amazing!!! I am so thankful for all the support we've got, i. I'm going to have to get a start on those thankyou cards!!

Adelaide has been awake since 9am this morning, and only just fell asleep at 2pm. She fed all morning. I'm trying to do an essay with only one hand!

I don't know why people don't use cloth nappies more, it's so easy, I prefer them to disposables. There's no stinky rubbish and you just put them in a bucket. I'm using disposables when we leave the house though.

Kaz cooke is great isn't she? She writes in a way that I can remember the information.

[ElizaDee]

fruitjuice - we decided on disposables as it was easier, plus that is what he was in while in hospital. We find it works great. mind you he is being breastfed and they say that breastfeeding poo doesn't really stink! its going to be bad when he starts solids! :thumbsdown:

Spencer has been awake since 7am as well with only a few 20mins naps and has just gone to sleep now at 3pm lets hope it lasts longer than 20mins! :fingerscrossed:

We were cluster feeding all morning as well. So it is normal. My boobies are finally starting to not hurt as much, and the attachment is getting much better, I can see that by the 6 week mark we will have it all sorted! :smiliedance:

Della - does Bryle sleep any less now that she is older? I have heard that they start to interact a bit from now on, have you noticed anything?

[*butterflykisses*]

hehe glad i was right LOL

Amelia had her check up today

she is now 3850grams lenght is 54cms and head is 36cms

she has grown 5cms in 2 weeks:eek:
she has been a whingy this afternoon wanting to feed more often than usual
she is 3 wks and 3 days so maybe she is having her growth spurt

Amelia slept from 12:30am til 7:30am this morning
when i woke up i nearly died when i realised the time

oh and she has smiled 3 times now its so beautiful she smiles with her whole face and even had dimples :D

ive always used disposables i fall behind in my washing enough without needed 100 nappies to do a day as well :laughing: Amelia poos more than she feeds atm

i love going out and gettin out of this house
i starting drving only 2 weeks after my c/s LOL and even that long drove me insane and Amelia loves being out doors (got 3 outdoorr babies now hehe) i do want to start taking her for walks but atm my area is a mess with trees down everywhere

well i better go and start dinner Brian gone to do the shopping and he should be back soon i said i would have dinner done but i can hear Amelia waking up
so fingers crossed i get dinner done

[DellaWellaWoman]

Eliza, I think she's sleeping a little bit less than before - when we first came home she had her body clock out of whack so was sleeping during the day and wanted to be awake/cluster feeding all night (or so it seemed) - now she's having feeds (approx) 10pm, 1am, 4am, 7am, 10am and then cluster feeding and/or being awake during the remainder of the day (with snoozes on whoever's holding her of course, but don't try to put her down in the pram/cot!).

Today she had a couple of very awake/alert periods where she wanted to look around and check things out - I even put her on the floor to look at her mobile thingy and she took a couple of swats at it with her hands (probably more accidental than anything, but anyway :thumbsup: ).

Given she didn't cluster feed as much as usual this afternoon I'm now waiting with bated breath to see if she goes to sleep as normal tonight (my poor sore boobies could do with a break *sigh* although if she goes too long I have to express so she can attach!).

Fruitjuice, I will be using cloth nappies (terry squares as well as some modern cloth), but Brylee was only 2.5kg when she was born - the terry squares come up under her armpits at the moment!! So for now it's newborn disposables, with the cloth nappies being used as spew clothes and change mat covers - once she's a bit bigger I'll be switching over to the cloth tho.

[*butterflykisses*]

:D cassie- Amelia was born at 3010grams and went down to 2750grams the day we went home from hospital
length was 48 and h/c was 35 (her h/c was 34 at 1 week old)
she has huge feet and hands i think she is goin to be very tall

so she has grown heaps


im so glad Logan is sleeping better :smiliedance: it will make it easier on you

[ElizaDee]

Della - having the same problem with Spencer at the moment, can't put him down anywhere, but tonight I had to so I could get some sleep :sleeping: put him on his side this seemed to help, he has been having some wind problems lately. Maybe give this a try???

Don't know what Spencer weighs at the moment, need to get his check up done, being in the sticks its hard to find somewhere to do this!

[*butterflykisses*]

i just expressed 70mls

my best ever ive only ever been able to get 45 mls top im so proud of myself :D

[DellaWellaWoman]

Kylie-anne - 70ml wow!! The most I've ever managed is about 45ml *sigh* - if that's all I'm ever going to get it's going to take for ever to express enough to leave her with someone else!

I've got a recipe for milk-supply boosting biscuits but I don't really want to make them before the 6 week mark when our milk's supposed to settle down.... Never know, I might give them a go in a couple of weeks.

Eliza, Brylee was doing her whingey wanna be fed/held cry (just pulled off from a feed) and I put her down in her bouncer while I quickly threw a few dishes in the sink, and she's amusing herself!!! OMG!! I just hope it lasts longer than 2 minutes :yes: And I'll give the side thingy a go too - thanks :)

I need to make a Child Health Centre appt I think - I thought they were supposed to visit you at home with first babies, but obviously not - we're up to the 4 week mark so I figure I'll just ring them & ask what the heck's going on...

[*butterflykisses*]

Debbie- they are meant to ring you and see when they can come out
i didnt want them to come out because i have my own nurse ive used for all my kids and they were happy with that

i love getting babies weighed etc LOL

let me know how the cookies go
dont worry 40 mls is the most i got with all my kids until today i was shocked when i locked down and the bottle was a little fuller LOL

Amelia is sleeping so much today i hope she sleeps tonight

[Pilgrim]

hello ladies! i just found this thread... duh :rolleyes: can i still claim preggie brain?

Got our CHN appt tomorrow so i'll save further thrilling posting times til tomorrow.

How is everyones pets adjusting to having a baby around? my cat is like a different beast!! he used to be so wild and attack without reason and now he just lies close by us purring and guarding the baby. He's turned into a big softie!!

[*butterflykisses*]

Cassie-Logan sound s like his doing great

im slowly showing our dog Amelia though the screen door she gets all excited ans starts jumping around like crazy our dog loves kids but is scared of adults

she is having a sleepy day today maybe cause its so cold here oh well good for the fires we are having near me

[DellaWellaWoman]

I thought they were supposed to come to me for the first visit too, but so far nothing... the clinic can see us at 1pm tomorrow due to a cancellation, so I figure it's easier to go to them - plus it means I'll actually have to get dressed :eek:

Brylee's 4 weeks old now - gosh how time flies - and the clinic usually has a 2 week wait for an appointment - if I'd had to wait the 2 weeks I would have pushed for my home visit,but I'll just tell 'em tomorrow that I missed out :confused: and see what they say.

Our cat can't quite figure out what the small squirming hairless creature residing permanently on my boobies is - she keeps coming over to sniff Brylee's head and seems to be trying to figure out how she can sit on my lap for pats while I'm feeding...

We had a cr@ppy night last night - cluster feeding until midnight (someone pass the toothpicks please), but today we seem to be back on track with cluster feeding in the afternoon/evening, so hopefully she'll go to bed a bit earlier tonight...

Cassie it's hard when the guys have to go back to work - I'm lucky that hubby helps out when he gets home from work, otherwise I'd still be waiting to have my first shower!!

And Pilgrim, I'm calling it baby-brain now - it's worse than any preggy-brain I had!

[ElizaDee]

welcome Pilgrim wondered where you were, just assumed Donovan was giving you grief.

Spencer has settled today, the side sleeping with a slightly elevated bed has helped with the wind heaps. :) He isn't cluster feeding as much either and is sleeping, so hopefully the growth spurt is over for now! :fingerscrossed:

We haven't had a visit or even been told that there was one? Should I call the hospital and find out what I should do? We were told to weigh Spencer once a week, but living in the sticks (kinda) doesn't help with this.

What happens at these checks?

[DellaWellaWoman]

As far as I know they weigh/measure and offer advice on feeding, sleeping, etc.

You should be able to find your nearest clinic here: http://www.health.qld.gov.au/cchs/locator.asp and if there isn't one nearby maybe your local chemist has a midwife/clinic sister visit once a week? I know a lot of the chemists on the gold coast do.

If all else fails I'd definitely give the hospital a call and see what the story is...

[*butterflykisses*]

i had a bad night with Amelia last night im so tired
i have no idea what is wrong with her she just wanted to feed so much
hopefully its that growth spurt thing and she gets back to sleeping through the night

[ElizaDee]

Spencer slept like normal last night up at 2am, 6am and 9am. :) Now if he will only go down for his morning nap!

He has been getting really weird with his feeds, he starts crying at the end and trying to pull my nipple off! :eek: Not sure what that is about but golly it hurts!

BFK - sorry Amelia is playing up, Spencer went through that two nights ago, it was terrible! She is only 2 days older than Spencer so it could be the growth spurt.

[DellaWellaWoman]

He has been getting really weird with his feeds, he starts crying at the end and trying to pull my nipple off! :eek: Not sure what that is about but golly it hurts!

Oh boy do I hear ya on this one - absolute agony!! I've now got grazed nipples from this, so I'm back on the lansinoh - and watching her during feeds to try to catch her before she does it.

I guess it's all a bit of an intro for when they're older and start getting distracted during feeds and/or teething (hmmm maybe I shouldn't have mentioned that :no: )

[*butterflykisses*]

Amelia has been feeding every 2 hours today :eek: she is very unsettled today and hardly sleeping

im praying so bad this is just a grotwth spurt and it will go away in a few days :fingerscrossed:

[ElizaDee]

Amelia has been feeding every 2 hours today :eek: she is very unsettled today and hardly sleeping

im praying so bad this is just a grotwth spurt and it will go away in a few days :fingerscrossed: We have been like that for 3 days so far, I am hoping too that it changes soon! :fingerscrossed:

[SammyD]

Hi guys! Thought I might make an appearance after being AWOL for a couple of weeks! DH has only just gone back to work...we've just been hanging out, blissing out about our new little girl!

Glad to hear everyone & their bubs are doing well - even if they're not sleeping when they're supposed to! I'm almost guilty to say that Abbie is being a model citizen so far - at night she will usually have a 5-hour sleep and a 4-hour sleep and always just nods off straight after her feed - I haven't had to settle her at all - I can even put her in her bassinette awake and she will go to sleep! :thumbsup:

She has made me pay, though, by refusing to breastfeed - I still haven't managed to get her to latch on & she is still being fed EBM by bottle. This means that I'm expressing up to 10 times a day! :eek:

But she's thriving - last week she put on 320g!

[fruitjuice]

:banghead: The hourly feeds!!! GRRR!!! Last night was awful, she usually does cluster feeding in the morning, but she kept me awake early instead! We're trying to get her to hold out for another half hour. They say to demand feed but I just don't know what's the right thing to do!!!

What are the problems with dummies? Will it interrupt breastfeeding?

[*butterflykisses*]

apparently it confuses them but i dont think it does

Amelia doesnt have a dummy but only goes she doesnt want one
i used a dummy with both the boys

her feeding has gone back to 3 hours :fingerscrossed: it stays that way tonight im so tired i couldnt stanbd doin it every 1-2 hours

oh cassie im sorry hubby is goin back to work whenever you feel lonely just come on here

my msn is kahooper82@hotmail.com if you have msn

[ElizaDee]

I tried the dummy out of desperation with Spencer, but he hated it! Daddy was pleased as he does not want to use one. So no dummy for us.

Last evening was terrible, we wouldn't sleep and we wanted was boobie, he would come off (of his own accord) then start screaming for it again, and it had been on for 45mins! Not only that he would pull himself off then suck back on, each time killing my nipples! I was so sore by 10pm. :no:

Luckily he had his night time feed about then and went to sleep. We had 3 3hr bursts of sleep. I think the growth spurt is over at least I hope so :fingerscrossed: We are having our morning sleep right now (we didn't have this one yesterday)

Cassie - 5hrs! Spencer has never done that! You lucky thing!

[fruitjuice]

Yay! a good night of sleep! She woke 4 hourly, and only cried once for a short time. Thank goodness, because I couldn't have handled it. I was crying last night because I was scared she was going to do it again. All rationality goes out the window when you're tired.

Thanks for tips on the dummies. Mum gave it to her last night and it worked for a while, but it only lasted a minute when I tried in the middle of the night. I worry too much about giving it to her anyway.

Cassie - does your hubby have to travel and stay away from home for work or something? That must get so lonely! I get withdrawal symptoms from DF if he's away for the weekend!

[*butterflykisses*]

i think it was a growth spurt for Milly as well
she slept great last night 5 hours than 4 hours and is feeding and sleeping like normal again today

thank god

bbl just having lunch

[DellaWellaWoman]

I ended up taking panadol for my sore boobies - really took the edge off the pain (just attaching really - Brylee's been testing the nipples out to see if they're elasticised :no: - her attachment's good, I just had grazes from the throwing-her-head-back-with-nipple-attached thing)

She's still cluster feeding in the afternoon/evening, but is now having longer catnaps in between :yelclap:

I guess we're lucky - she's a good night sleeper - feed to sleep, transfer to cot, wrap her & tuck her in and she'll generally doze off on her own. I just wish her "night" started before midnight! Oh well, early days yet...

SammyD the expressing is tiring isn't it?? We were expressing after each feed for the first 3 weeks (my milk wasn't in properly) so I sorta know what it's like - luckily we're now just breastfeeding - I hope Abbie gets the hang of breastfeeding soon!!

[DellaWellaWoman]

Oh yeah - our clinic visit was yesterday.

Now weighing 3.18kg (up from birth weight of 2.57kg), nurse is happy with her weight gain, length and head circumfrence, and her cluster feeding and clinginess are "perfectly normal".

As far as the home visit thing goes she said she's never heard of it, so who knows? :confused:

They run a new parents group on Tuesdays starting next month so I'll go along to meet a few other mums since I don't know any.

[SammyD]

Thanks, Debbie. I'm really doubting whether Abbie will ever get the hang of it to be honest! I keep trying every day and she is no closer to doing it!

I'm also starting to get a bit worried that my supply isn't going to keep up. I was really stressing about it last night - I keep comparing how many mls she is drinking each feed with how much I am able to express each time - and I'm starting to fall behind. Especially when she has a big chunder. I had some frozen EBM which I got out last night, but I'm thinking I may have to keep a can of formula on hand - which I really don't want to do but I can't have a hungry baby either. :(

[SammyD]

cassie that must be so hard - not just for you but for hubby too. good that he's not away for the whole 2 weeks now. do you have family/friends nearby to help you out while he's away? from memory your MIL is handy?

[DellaWellaWoman]

I didnt know I was meant to put him into his cot while he was still awake...

This is one way to do it, but it doesn't mean any other ways are "wrong" - it's sort of an extension of the controlled crying v's no cry sleep debate - if putting him in the cot afer he goes to sleep feels right and works best for your family I'd do it.

SammyD have you tried taking things to boost your supply? I've been taking fenugreek (milk thistle is another one), and I'm about to make some 'booby juice boosting bikkies' - not sure if they'll work, but they're choc chip so I figure as long as they taste good :smiliedance:

[fruitjuice]

lol DWW!! That's a great excuse to eat chocolate!! My boobies are too full to risk increasing my milk supply, but I could still go choc chip cookies!

Cassie,I know what you mean about being noise concious, that's why I get so stressed at night sometimes, I don't want to wake anyone up. During the daytime I'm a lot more comfortable when she cries, because no one is here!

Did anyone get tested for pre-eclampsia? If so, how was it done, did you have to do a 24 hour urine test or just a few samples? I'm doing my pathology essay on all those tests pregnant women have to do, but I don't know the practicalities of all of the tests.

[*butterflykisses*]

Did anyone get tested for pre-eclampsia? If so, how was it done, did you have to do a 24 hour urine test or just a few samples? I'm doing my pathology essay on all those tests pregnant women have to do, but I don't know the practicalities of all of the tests.


i did

with DS1- i had to do the 24 hour sample one i did this twice (one at home one at hospital)
with DS2 i had the 24 hour one done once at home
with this pregnancy they just tested every now and then not 24 hours though they where goin to but decided i had pre eclampsia without doing that test

i had blood tests with these tsts as well not sure what they where looking for though

HTH a little

ive still got preggo brains atm

[Pilgrim]

hey ladies..

hope you're evening is going well. milk supply boosting biscuits!? whatever will they think of next...! i thought your body just adjusted its supply to meet babies needs? having said that i have too much milk :( so leaky its not funny.

Baby spews frightened me so much at the start, but i had one of my mums friends come stay with me a few days and she's a midwife who reassured me that they always look bigger than they are and not to worry as they're generally just 'overflow'

fruitjuice i got pre-eclampsia.. had swollen feet and high BP then at the hosp apptment they got me to do the pee in a cup thing for protein. EDIT: will expand a bit more - following pee-in-cup they put the CTG on me to check baby and he was ok. I was admitted to stay overnight and they collected more pee-in-a-cup for 24hrs as well as 3hrly BP readings and another CTG trace in the morning. Got put on Albumen(?) and more 3hrly BP checks. Hope this helps :)

anyway sorry for briefness.. am cooking dinner, doing email, keeping an eye on the boys and juggling some chainsaws all at once.

[Wondermum]

:wave: September mummies and bubbies!

Just a quick drop in to say hello to you all and hope all mummies and bubbies are doing well.

Rylan is 7 days old today :smiliedance: I just can't stop smelling him *sniffs baby smell* Mmmm he smells so beautiful! I had forgotten just how little they are (though I still think they are rather big for where they come from) ..... before I had Rylan I used to see Hayden as my big baby but now he's looking more like a boy to me in comparison.

Rylan is a delightfully calm baby - a lot like his big brother was. Is quite content when he is fed, burped, changed and sleeping. I am BF.... he latched straight onto the breast with no drama's and is on feeding frenzy at the moment! He has given me a few great nights of sleep, about 3 nights ago he slept 4 hrs straight then woke for a feed then back for another 3.5 hours :thumbsup: would love it if he could save that routine in memory :D but I so know that is highly unlikely at this stage!

Well, reality is calling... will be back to post again soon.

take care ladies,
Jess xx

[filmgirlgail]

Ah - so this is where everyone is - I just found this thread.

Know what you mean about dummies - depends on the baby, With Jess I used it twice and both times she screamed with out it so never used it again. With Alex, it works as a comforter, not that he's crying, but it sometimes helps him to get to sleep, tho I am careful not to leave it in in case he vomits so I wait til he's asleep then take it out.

I've only skimmed so HI to everyone.

[fruitjuice]

Thanks BFK and pilgrim for the info - that saved me a lot of research time. They don't make things simple for us!!

Adelaide has been soo good today, she's back to four-hourly feeds and actually enjoyed her bath tonight. I don't know how you're supposed to bath the baby by yourself - it takes mum, my sister and I to bathe her safely.

I'm getting a bit worried, DF still isn't home and it's horrible weather outside. Having a baby has made me paranoid about family safety! Hopefully this will pass.

Oh well, i'm going to bed just in case bubba wakes up too often again.

[SammyD]

SammyD have you tried taking things to boost your supply? I've been taking fenugreek (milk thistle is another one), and I'm about to make some 'booby juice boosting bikkies' - not sure if they'll work, but they're choc chip so I figure as long as they taste good

Hehehe. I saw that recipe too! Actually after all my stressing out my supply has built up again :) ! I've been religiously expressing every time Abbie has a feed (even when that's every hour and a half), and it took a few days but I'm now getting up to 200ml each time :eek: . So I've put off buying the can of formula!

And Abbie slept from 8pm to 2am and then 2.30 am to 6am last night!! When I woke up at 2am I thought my boobs were going to pop!

Cassie I'm a big believer in putting bubs down awake and trying to get them to go to sleep in their bed, it does make things easier when they get older. But at the same time I can't leave a newborn to cry - I either rock or pat Abbie to sleep if she starts to cry, and if that doesn't work after a minute or two then I just pick her up and cuddle her! She's a pretty cruisey type though - don't feel that you have to do what the nurse tells you if it makes you feel uncomfortable.

Jess you sound completely blissed out with Rylan (what a gorgeous name too by the way!). So happy for you!

Pilgrim watch out for those chainsaws love - all fun & games until someone loses an arm! Abbie has done some mighty scary projectile spews in the last few days - I've no idea where it all comes from - I'm sure that more comes out than goes in!

Gail glad you found us at last!

[Mon]

Hi,

I have just found this thread, my 3rd one is due on the 28th of sept, but has decided not to put in a appearence as yet, my luck will come on the weekend when all the Grand finals are on...

Congrats to everyone that has had there bubs, anyone got any good ideas one how to encourage it to join the world?

See ya
Monique

[filmgirlgail]

Thanks Sammy

As I usually just skim I don't pick up on all the news. Will now come here first!!

Just off to my nap but last night Alex must have heard me threaten him with embarrassing photos to show future girlfriends as he slept for 4.5 hours in a row instead of 4.5 overall!!! Then we dozed on and off after his 3am feed as he had wind, but that was fine by me. :fingerscrossed: the same or better happens tonight!!

[filmgirlgail]

I'm glad I found this thread - much more at my pace with only a few postings a day! I was getting so behind in the other thread.

Had a kind of lie in today which was nice. Lie in with Alex whilst DH adn DD were downstairs, then they came up at 10 and we all watched Dr Who from last night. So we're still in PJs here :D

Hope everyone is have a lovely weekend. I'm just updating my website, but with building works not baby pics :eek:

[*butterflykisses*]

yes i can keep up with this thread much better im lost on the other thread now

Amelia is getting into a routine now (all by herself as well):smiliedance:

she wakes at 8pm,12am, 4am then7am every night now (last night it was8:30pm 12:30am 4:30am and 7:30am)
during the day she is whenever she wants some days its 3 hourly other days its 4 hourly even 5 hourly but i don't mind the day times

she has a rash over her face its looks like pimples LOL but i think its a heat rash the ECN did tell me she looked like she has a bit of heat rash but its bad today
so i gave her a nice warm bath and dressed her in summery clothes and hopefully it goes down

Cameron has started to get jealous of her as well the past 2 days
screaming for my attention when im feeding her and mucking up all day long
i went to have a shower while she was asleep and they both went in and woke her up :banghead:
guess i wont be having showers during the days ever again

im so tired and i think i know why Ive been forgetting the take my iron tablets, im so busy i just forgot about them so im back on them again and hopefully it doesn't take to long to get some energy back

well im goin to go lie down for a few minutes
chat soon

[filmgirlgail]

BFK - could you put her in her carseat or bouncer and take her into the bathroom with you? I've just been contemplating this for when my MIL leaves.

[*butterflykisses*]

good thinking
i might have to try this :thumbsup:

my breasts are so sore today
she has been feeding on and off all day and now they are really sore they still feel full, its feels like as son as she empties one they become fuller and fuller nearly straight away

[ElizaDee]

Spencer has been terrible lately, the last two days he hasn't sleept! today we were up from 10:30am to 5pm! :no: I attempted to get him down about 5 times, but everytime he squeals! Yesterday it too from 6:30am to 1pm to get him back to sleep. Its not like our nights are long, they are only 3 or 4 hr blocks and usually one two!

My bbs are so very sore as he has been hanging off them when he is awake. He screams bloody murder and demands a feed constantly. I dread him waking up, them my bbs get full and I want him awake to make them feel better! Its a vicious cycle. :(

Not sure why he will not sleep, he might have reflux or something as I now have him in the pram sitting up, and he is still asleep. :yelclap: Mind you it has only been 40mins. He should be good for a couple of hours before he needs a feed.

signed one exhausted, tired, sore boobied mummy. :rolleyes:

[filmgirlgail]

Hi BFK and Elizadee

I don't know your opinions on dummies but you may want to try them. With DD I used it twice and she screamed both times I took it away so never used them again but with DS I use it to calm him and it helps him just drop off sometimes. When I was BF him I discovered that sometimes he was just comfort sucking. May be worth giving it a go?? Good luck. :fingerscrossed:

As for sleeping, the last couple of nights he's gone for 3-4 hour stretches instead of 1.5 so :fingerscrossed: we might start getting into a routine, which I will need when my MIL leaves and I have to cook, wash, fold, etc as well as trying to spend time with both beautiful children :D

[filmgirlgail]

Oh Elizadee, just a quickie to say that I had a coffee morning for my Aquamums with 3 boy bubbas and all had the middle name James!! :yes: Looks like that's always going to be popular - I love it as a good solid name.

[*butterflykisses*]

Amelia hates the dummy and screams when you give it to her
Amelia is good overnight even puts herself to sleep
she is down for her night time sleep now so once i finally get something for dinner LOL i will be off to ed for a nap

my boobs are so sore she isnt feeding as long so they are sore and its under the bobs (if that makes sense) so im not 100% if sh eis gettin the fatty milk atm if she keeps doing it tomorrow i will express after her feeds and see if she is or not

Eliza- im so sorry Spencer is having bad nights you must be exhausted do you have any help around the house atm ?

Gail- i hope your little one is gettin into a routine it makes it a bit more easier to predit sleep,and showers etc

[filmgirlgail]

Thanks I hope so too. Probelm has been that he sleeps all day, even when you wake him for feeds, then is up all night taking 2 hours to have a feed then only sleeping 1.5 hours or so before the next one which leads to one frazelled mummy :yes:

Last couple of nights I haven't been as aware of being up so often, IYKWIM, and he seems to be going 3-4 hours and feeding less at night. Better go - v windy bub

[ElizaDee]

Amelia hates the dummy and screams when you give it to her Spencer is the same! Hates them!



Eliza- im so sorry Spencer is having bad nights you must be exhausted do you have any help around the house atm ? Yes my DH is home at the moment, couldn't survive without him! :yes:

[bronny-jane]

:wave: hello everyone, i still cant believe i have 3 kids:D

my news well i have mastitis, its awful, it hurts and my breast feels like its on fire, i was told to feed her more on it but now its twice the size of my other breast and i look like a freak, i knew my breast would get bigger, but i was hoping it would be both of them:D

other then that things are going well here:yelclap:

[filmgirlgail]

Grrr - you know it's a good thing our babies are so cute, otherwise we'd never forgive them for the sleepless nights - another rough night here. He's :sleeping: now tho :rolleyes:

[ElizaDee]

Man I had a reply all done and hit submit and it went into cyber land! Now I have to do it again. :banghead:

We had a great night Spencer slept as best as has been and he is more settled today! :smiliedance: Having his morning sleep for the first time in 3 days!

[Wondermum]

:wave: everyone!

Signing in while I can! I have to say second time round for me is sooo great. I have been blessed with a truly calm and wonderful baby. My first was quite similar but he feed every 1.5 hours during the night for the first couple of weeks.

I'm getting enough sleep at night. When Rylan wakes for a feed at night/ early morning hours, he feeds and goes straight back to sleep for another 3hrs or so :smiliedance: He does sleep a lot during the day sometimes too, which is extremely common for new babies :yes:

Tip for waking a sleepy baby during the day:
The midwife told me not to let them sleep more than 3 hours at a time during the day... to wake them get a cool face washer and give them a wipe over the head and face, also take any wraps and blankets off and if warm change into something lighter. Also, don't put them straight onto the breast/ bottle, let them wake up and have a squeal for a bit :D

[*butterflykisses*]

BJ-
how did you know you had matitis ?
the ABA think i could have it
what did you get? and how are they helping you?
im in so much pain but the dr's are shut today

[filmgirlgail]

Thanks. Well I do have tomorrow to look forward to - my parents bought me a massage voucher instead of flowers when Alex was born :smiliedance: so tomorrow I'm having a 1 hour massage with 30 min facial followed by an hour in the spa (all massages come with free hour in personal spa or sauna!) Looking forward to that :smiliedance:

[Wondermum]

Thanks. Well I do have tomorrow to look forward to - my parents bought me a massage voucher instead of flowers when Alex was born :smiliedance: so tomorrow I'm having a 1 hour massage with 30 min facial followed by an hour in the spa (all massages come with free hour in personal spa or sauna!) Looking forward to that :smiliedance:

Ooh Gail, that sounds really good :thumbsup: for that idea!

[*butterflykisses*]

oh gail that sounds wonderful can i come :p
i was thinking about having a facial on wed when i get my hair done

[Wondermum]

Glad to hear everything is going so smoothly for you Jessica and that Rylan is being a dream baby :thumbsup: Definately must make it easier the 2nd time round with all that extra mums stuff to do :eek:
Im definately reconsidering having 3 :laughing: problem is, hubby still wants 4

Thanks Cas,

Yep, you're right I do have the extra toddler to take care of and sometimes the extra large toddler (DH) aswell.... Grrrr *snarls* I hate it when I have to pick up after him aswell!

Our magic number was 3 kiddies, as soon as Rylan was born I said.... NOT AGAIN! but :eek: seems I've already changed my mind and will consider number 3 at some stage further down the track.

[missneriss]

Glad I stumbled across you girls in this thread! It was draining just even LOOKING at the other one!

It's so comforting that I'm not alone in the sleepless nights and sore nipples. When Jasper's sleeping or awake and happy I'm loving this, but when he's screaming and won't settle I'm finding it SO hard!

Eliza thanks for replying in my 'feeding' thread. I think our boys have been swapping tips on how to make nighttimes miserable for their mummies!

Gail how are you going to organise those hours of peace? Are you taking Alexander? My hair is DESPERATELY in need of a colour but I can't work out how to organise it around the baby, or whether they'll let my little screamer upset the calm of the salon...

[fruitjuice]

Elizadee - sorry you've been having a rough few nights. Perhaps he's just trying to get your milk supply up in preparation for a growth spurt?

BFK - I'm sure ABA told you, but in case they didn't - try moist heat, massage with oil, feeding baby with the chin pointing towards the sore area, drinking more water, panadol and REST (I know it's hard with toddlers). How are you feeling lately anyway? hope you're feeling better and don't have the baby blues anymore.

[*butterflykisses*]

thanks for the advice

im feeling so tired and sore i just had a 30mins sleep and i feel worse

im thinkning of going back to PND counselling im still down esp. towrds Brian and its taking a toll atm he even left last night
funny thing is i cant say i have PND i had convince myself i was finr and it was everyone else being moody and stuff i still dont kthink i have it

i cant keep up with the other thread its just so much for me right now

im taking Amelia when i get my hair done but im just gettin a cut and foils done

well i just took some panadol hopefully it kicks in soon

[filmgirlgail]

Hi all

Well DD is at daycare tomorrow and MIL is still here hence the pampering.

As for hairdressers, most of them let you have them in tho I have never tried it - always had a babysitter or done it on a weekend.

As for mastitis - :hugs: to everyone. I had that with Jess and mine cleared up with antibiotics. Unfortunately it didn't work for my sister who had to have a lumptectomy?? I forget what it's called now as it was 2 years ago. All healed but left a scar. Have to go now, going to Drs solo this afternoon as I think I have TMI ALERT thrush :(

[*butterflykisses*]

gail big :hugs: on the thursh
hopefully it goes ASAP for you

you guys with MIL's are so so lucky :D

[DellaWellaWoman]

:hugs: to everyone with sore boobies, mastitis, thrush, sleep deprivation and anything else I haven't mentioned.

I can't believe Brylee's 5 weeks old today! How time flies when you're sleep deprived.

Brylee seems to have settled down a bit - she goes to bed around 10:30, and is up for feeds around 1:30, 4:30 and 7:30 - just a pity each feed takes up to an hour and a half! During the day she's more or less awake from 10:30 till bedtime :banghead: with snoozes for about 40 minutes after feeds (but only if I'm holding her) - today I'm going to try putting her down after her feed to see what happens :fingerscrossed:

And then I'm off to pay a parking fine :mad: - maybe I should take her in there screaming for some revenge??

Hope everyone starts feeling better soon...

[bronny-jane]

BJ-
how did you know you had matitis ?
the ABA think i could have it
what did you get? and how are they helping you?
im in so much pain but the dr's are shut today

first my breast was sore, then it was red around the top of my nipple, it got even redder and started to cover almost half my breast, it was sore and a bit lumpy and felt hot as well, im on some antibiotic, its still sore though and was told to massage the lumps with oil as zoe fed.

go to the hospital thats what i did, the doctors were closed, they gave me some antibiotics to get through the first day and a script for the rest.

also take panadol.......you might get a fever too, i got the shakes:( and felt a bit ill, they say it feels like the flu....oh or you might even feel really cold instead of hot.

i hope its not mastitis:fingerscrossed:

[*butterflykisses*]

thanks for the info

im hopeing its not matitis as well
so far all i have is a sore boob underneath the boob the ABA said it could be a few things though (like i slept on it, the bra is hurting me, left over hind milks etc) so i have a few things it could be

i will let you know how i go
got any pics of Zoe on the computer yet BJ ?

[bronny-jane]

oh i should get one on my avatar soon shouldnt i:D

[filmgirlgail]

Well it's a UTI. Also, when I was in the chemist I saw TMI ALERT Anusol haemmoroid wipes! Now that would have made life easier a couple of months ago!!

[missneriss]

You poor things. I'm going to stop complaining about having a couple of tiny blisters on my nipples now. The possible mastitis sounds just horrible.

I thought I had thrush too last week Gail, but I think it was just the tear healing :fingerscrossed: Have you tried that one treatment tablet? My friend told me it works a treat.

I'm getting geared up for 6 o'clock arsenic hour... not too long to go and I'm dreading it :thumbsdown:

Incidentally, is three weeks too early to introduce a dummy? I don't want him to get nipple confusion since he had so much trouble working BF out in the first place.

[filmgirlgail]

Hi there

I introduced a dummy at 3 days when I realised he was comfort sucking!

[DellaWellaWoman]

I think the recommended time to avoid nipple/dummy confusion is 6 weeks, but if you can't wait that long then I guess 3 weeks will have to do? I've had a dummy sterilised twice so far but haven't actually used it...

Apparently not all babies get confused, but some do, which I guess would make the whole breastfeeding thing even more complicated (as well as possibly having to get rid of the dummy).

Brylee's doing her afternoon arsenic hour thingy at the moment (it goes for 4 -6 hours :eek: ) wanting to constantly feed and be held, but isn't really hungry (I think?) so she ends up latching on, then dropping off, then screaming 'cos she can't find the nipple, so gets put back on, then it all starts again *sigh*

[filmgirlgail]

Alex didn't have confusion but it depends on the baby. Worth trying once to see how you go. If they're hungry, they'll let you know by getting rid of it :yes:

[*butterflykisses*]

i used gripe water with DS1
it was great but it dodnt work on DS2
i used to give it to him beofre his bottle i think they say you can out it in there bottle as well (god it was a long time ago)

Amelia is being a pain tonight wants to feed constantly and lye on me to sleep
ive just put her in bed and she keeps crying then goes to sleep than crys

she has a clean bum and should be full

oh my boob feels a little better atm hopefully its just a bruising or something and not matitis

well i better go and see howi can comfor ther she is up again

wish me luck

[DellaWellaWoman]

Amelia is being a pain tonight wants to feed constantly and lye on me to sleep
ive just put her in bed and she keeps crying then goes to sleep than crys

she has a clean bum and should be full

I think our daughters must be communicating with each other - Brylee's been constantly feeding/crying all afternoon - I don't have any breast problems (mastitis, etc) but they still hurt - I think I'm developing boobie-RSI from all this constant feeding :gloomy:

[secondtimearound2]

Hi Ladies :wave:

I've had a pretty good day today with Lachlan. Aaliyah has been the pain. I think she was tired, we had the MIL stay with us for a week then my Sis and her family spent the weekend. We had four kids under 4 and 2 late nights, not a good mix!!! I'm sort of glad everyone has been and gone cause now we can get into some sort of routine!!
:fingerscrossed: Lachlan sleeps well tonight I really need some sleep!! He tends to sleep well for the first part of the night then plays up in the wee hours. I've got a nurse coming to do home visit tomorrow morning at 9.30am:eek: I hope that I get a shower before then!!

Well I hope you all have a great night and our little angels behave!!

[ElizaDee]

Hi ladies, Spencer is now asleep. Managed to get through the witching hours without daddy as he is in Sydney overnight :thumbsdown:

For those who are having clingy babies, it was recomended to me to get a sling for Spence, as they want to be close and it frees up your hands to do things like cook dinner! We are going to go and get one Wednesday will let you know if it works! :yes:

As for Spencer hanging off my bbs, I stoped that. He gets his feeds and if he doesn't go to sleep and he wants to suck he gets my finger (he will not take the dummy) then after two hours he can have boobie again. This way he is full and my boobies get to have a break and now they are not as sore! :yelclap:

[*butterflykisses*]

Amelia went to sleep as well
she had to do a big burp and had done another poo (only took her 5mins LOL)

im just looking up PND even though ive lived it 2 times before i think i need to get some help just in case

im goin over my mums tomorrow so im not alone so hopefully she wil be nice neough to take the boys for a walk so i can nap

ive got a horrid headache right now (just had a shower) so i took some panadol

anyway im better get to bed before Amelia wants another feed

BTW eliza thats great advice let me know how you go

[Pilgrim]

argh!! i did the big personal reply thing and then the laptop battery died :no: i can't be bothered replying in full AGAIN, so i'm sorry.. feel the love from the first post before it vanished. hope all your aches and pains clear up soon ladies.

Eliza, gotta say i LOVE the sling. we got a hug a bub and Donovan thinks its awesome (as do i). He's pretty clingy but i'm just as clingy as he is so we're both happy.

we're going to try leaving him to sleep in the cot tonight. DP isn't down with the co-sleeping thing 'cos he's scared he'll squish the baby.. i think the daddy-paranoia is setting in :D

[ElizaDee]

Eliza, gotta say i LOVE the sling. we got a hug a bub and Donovan thinks its awesome (as do i). He's pretty clingy but i'm just as clingy as he is so we're both happy. Do you find it easy to use? It looks a little too complicated... That is one that is on our list of slings to look at.


we're going to try leaving him to sleep in the cot tonight. DP isn't down with the co-sleeping thing 'cos he's scared he'll squish the baby.. i think the daddy-paranoia is setting in :D Spencer's daddy is the same so when Spence and I co sleep daddy goes to the spare room.

[filmgirlgail]

When we co-sleep, Alex is always snuggled in my arm, plus we have a king size bed.

I have the hug a bub and have only used it once as my MIL is around. My plan is to use it around the house when she's gone and I'll have to carry him more and be able to use 2 hands. It's very comfy.

[SammyD]

:hugs: to all of you guys with mastitis/sore bbs. I had mastitis a few times with DD1 and it's horrible - comes on like a ton of bricks and makes you feel completely cr@p.

I got a blocked duct yesterday...one side of one of my bbs still felt rock-hard after I had expressed (yes Abbie is still refusing the breast & fully bottle fed EBM! :rolleyes: ) and it was so sore. I managed to clear it with a massage in the shower and while I was expressing and today it feels fine, thank goodness.

BFK :hugs: hope you're feeling better soon. Be kind to yourself. Good on you for being wise enough to realise you need some help and asking for it!

Cassie I used gripe water with my DD1, from memory I added it to her bottle. :fingerscrossed: it gives Logan some relief.

[secondtimearound2]

Morning ladies :wave:

Well what a morning!! The health nurse arrived and we had just got out of the shower, Lachlan was crying and the phone was ringing. I broke down and started crying!! Aaliyah has got a cold and has been winging all morning. She slept with her Daddy last night, Lachlan and I slept in the spare room. I am feeling better now that I've let it all out and the health nurse was great to talk to. I'm feeling the sleep deprivation thing and it is hard to control myself to not go off at DD. This day can only get better.

We've got a baby bjon carrier which we've used quite alot with DD. They are really handy to have :yes: .

Well I hope you are all having a better day than me! I was coping really well until today.

Take care
Love Lee

[SammyD]

Oh Lee you poor thing! Never mind, everyone has days like that, occasionally. Everything seems worse when you're tired...

[filmgirlgail]

Lee

I can empathise - when I had Jess, in the UK the midwife visits you every day for the first 10 days home and we had problems with bf and I cried every time she came as I was letting it all out to her. After 10 days of being at home she said - switch to formula as I ahven't seen you smile yet! I had smiled, just I let everything go when she came and smiled when she wasn't there.

This tiem I cry when I think about my MIL leaving next weekand how I"m going to get out of the house in the mornings! Hope your day gets better

[DellaWellaWoman]

...and how I"m going to get out of the house in the mornings!

You mean we're supposed to be able to do this? :eek:

At 6am I was still giving Brylee her 3am feed :banghead: so in the end I gave up and took her into the spare bed (same co-sleeping issues as others - dad scared of rolling on her, and he has to go to work so I try to let him sleep) - we didn't get outta bed until 12:30!!

I've got a hug-a-bub and love it - it's really easy to use - great for shopping (just grab a normal trolley, and no pram to worry about), but I still haven't figured out feeding in it - gotta watch the DVD again I think.

BFK :hugs: I hope you're feeling better soon

[filmgirlgail]

Know what you mean about the feeds. We were still up at 5:15 with the 3:30 feed so I jsut got into bed as I was tired and we dozed until 7. Can't use the spare bed as MIL is there. However I have handed him over to her a couple of times, like when I was whacked at 9 but had wind and we wer up until 3am! Handed him over and he was still up for a couple of hours.

As for getting out of the house, DD goes to daycare twice a week so at least to get out of the house I wouldn't have to have a shower first as I'd just drop her then come back and get on with things, but she starts music class next week but that's 10am and we're giong back to swimming on Friday at 8:30! Just hope Alex sleeps at the right times :D

[SammyD]

just managed to get Abbie to latch on & have a proper breastfeed (albeit with a shield) for the first time! she's 4 weeks old today & I've been expressing & giving her EBM the whole time! Who knows what will happen at her next feed but for now....woohoo!

:smiliedance:

[secondtimearound2]

Thanks Gail and Sammy, the day is nearly over!!
Thats great news Sammy :smiliedance: . You must feel on top of the world. :fingerscrossed: that Abbie keeps up the good work!!!!

[DellaWellaWoman]

Well done SammyD and Abbie!!!!

[ElizaDee]

Well done SammyD and Abbie!!!! yipee! :smiliedance:

[*butterflykisses*]

Sammy that is fantastic news

well after taking ages to get Amelia to sleep last night she slept from 8:30pm til 2am then til 6:30am so she did great

she went to bed easy tonight so im excepting her to wake for her normal 12am feed

i spent the whole day at my mums and spending tomorrow with my sister gettin my hair done

im feeling alot better today (probably cause i was out of the house)

oh my c/s scar is still red, is this normal??? cause the last 2 c/s it seemed to go down alot quicker
i dont have any pain or anything but its really red and swollen (its lumpy for time ever its been lumpy with the last 2 times it was hardly noticable)

oh and the pain in my breast is going away :D i just have to keep an eye on it but im preety sure it was just a build up of milk (at least i can move without screaming now)

well i better go

[bronny-jane]

great news sammy and bfk....i on the other hand am waiting for the chemist to open so i can buy some formula....my nipple is cracked right through the middle from edge to edge, it looks gross on one side too, and my breast that was fine is getting sore, im starting to resent feeds so i think its best for us both to switch.....i hope it doesnt make the mastitis worse:eek:

dh wants me to continue bf but i really cant it hurts way too much:(

[Wondermum]

Congrats on mastering the BF Sammy :thumbsup:

:smiliedance: BFK wow, that's a great sleep routine Amelia had a couple of nights ago...was she able to do it again for you?

B-J - well done you gave it your best shot and a couple of weeks is better than none. You need to do what works for you to be able to function properly and feel good too. How are your other DD's coping with their new little sister?

Lee - I hope you are doing o.k. with your little toddler and bubs. How is she reacting towards her little brother? Are you finding she has changed at all since Lachlan arrived or is it more teething etc for her?

Well I had a little fuss pot this morning. Rylan woke about 5am for a feed and got the cranks while on the breast. This is the first time he has done this. I don't know if it was the taste of my milk or wasn't coming fast enough for him??? He was definately getting milk - I could hear him swallowing but he just kept pulling off and on. His attachment has been great too. I burped him and tried him on both sides aswell. He later fed peacefully for a short time and has now gone back to sleep...hmmm :detective:

[*butterflykisses*]

well she sorta did her routine last night

she went to bed at 8pm woke at 2am then 4:30am then 7:30am so she slept passed her 12am feed but the other feeds stayed the same anyway
i like this routine im gettin planty of sleep and its good i know when she will wake up(roughly)

BJ- big hugs to you for sticking it out so bad
when i had the sore breast for a week last week i nearly quit and you do get to a point when the baby starts to cry you tihnk oh no just go back to sleep i undrstand completly:hugs:

Amelia has been crying during her feeds last night
but i tihnk she has a cold :mad: as lovely as visitors are i wish they wouldnt visit a newborn while they have a cold

hehe i turned the vobrating thing on her bouncer and she fell asleep

since the pain has started to go my milk supply seems to have gone down as well

well im having my hair done today :D so i better go and get ready it will take me that long to get ready with bathing and feeding etc etc lol

[filmgirlgail]

Oh BJ :hugs: I think you need to keep pumping though as the mastitis is blocked milk ducts so I think it gets worse if you do nothing - check with your dr first though.

Congrats on the sleep BFK. I got about that but it was because MIL took him so I slept from 9-1:30. Unfortunatly we then had a 2 hours feeding, then dozed then DD decided she wanted her Weetbix at 5:15 :eek: so have been up since then :sleeping: I hope that doesn't turn into her normal time.

But for some reason, as I was up so early I cleared out the shelf in the pantyr I've been meaning to and have written down the ingredietns for a date loaf I found in a magazine and am off to the shops now and hopefully will make it today! Can't remember the last time I baked as when I did (about 5 months ago??) I put the plastic mixer jug in the dishwasher and didn't realise it was on a hot cycle and it's all bent out of shape now Can you tell that I'm not the home baking motherly type?? :D

[AnnaT]

Hi ladies! So sorry its taken me ages to find my way here but I just struggle to find the time in between feeds, chores and trying to stay awake to actually get on the comp for more than a quick read through.

We are going great, apart from the tiny issue of still being tired even with regular naps. The breastfeeding is getting better, although we still have lazy times where he just wont latch on no matter what. He has gained about 200g though so I must be doing something right. I sometimes worry he isnt feeding enough, is that normal? On a good note we got 4.5hrs straight sleep last night :eek:

I have a ? about PP bleeding. When is it supposed to stop? I am 1w1d PP and my bleeding seems to have stopped, now I just have the usual cm discharge?

[filmgirlgail]

Hi AnnaT

My PP bleeding stopped after about 10 days, going to normal discharge, then returned at 3 weeks PP for a few days. I went to the hospital for a checkup and they couldn't rule out an infection so I was on anti-biotics just in case.

:hugs: on the sleep and bf issues. I know where you're at :yes:

Hope this helps

[bronny-jane]

:D i have to keep massaging my breast to make sure i dont get mastitis back while im waiting to dry up:o

my dd's are so good with zoe, poor girl gets smothered in love:D they love doing little jobs to help with her too, like getting nappies and clothes and watching her have a bath:yelclap: ......oh life is brilliant

[*butterflykisses*]

how did you all go with the slings,wraps etc for carrying your bubbas

i really want one but im not sure whicih one to buy

any help???

[filmgirlgail]

Hi all :wave:

:hugs: to those with pains of all kinds.

Well, I made the date loaf yesterday after dinner and it tastes great - espcially hot out the oven with icecream!! Very simple recipie if you want me to PM it - do'nt need a food mixer.

BFK Ive got the Hug a Bub and have only used it once but it was quite comfy to wear. I'll be wearing it more from next week as MIL is going

As MIL is going I'm going to have to learn how to spend whole days with 2 children whilst doing the washing, cooking, etc :eek:

As for my UTI I'm going back to the dr now as I'm having more pain than I did before :no:

[DellaWellaWoman]

how did you all go with the slings,wraps etc for carrying your bubbas

i really want one but im not sure whicih one to buy

any help???

I've also got the hug-a-bub - it's great - easy to put on and soooo comfortable you can hardly feel it. Of course I'm only carrying a 3 and a bit kg baby at the moment....

[filmgirlgail]

Hi

Well it's just my ovaries kicking back into action. Just had my first internal ultrasound :eek: to find that out.

[ElizaDee]

how did you all go with the slings,wraps etc for carrying your bubbas

i really want one but im not sure whicih one to buy

any help???
We bought the Baby Bjorn, its really comfy and makes carrying baby around so much easier. :D

[*butterflykisses*]

Gail thank goodness it isnt anything serous

thanks for the advice im keeping my eye out on ebay to see what they all go for before i buy one
i took Milly shopping again today and i differently need one she is ok for awhile but then wants me to hold her to get back to sleep so if i have the sling just incase it would help

[filmgirlgail]

Hiya

Yeah - I'm thankful for that. As for Hug a bubs, I bought mine off ebay. You can do a search on recently finished auctions so you can see what they went for. I got mine for about $85 including postage and they'd only used it once or twice so a good bargain as it came with the packaging and CD. Youl want to try and make sure it comes with the CD as it explains the different ways to wear it, although it's done in pictoral form on their website.

Just about to update my avatar with a piccie taken this morning.

[filmgirlgail]

:( Grrrr - our scanner/printer has decided to not "see" the PC at the moment. It's a great picture of me and Alex so will try again later after my :sleeping:

[SammyD]

Hi all!

BFK we have a tomy safari baby sling (I think!) which is just an el-cheapo KMart brand...no complaints with it. Has a nice wide waist strap which seems to distribute the weight nice & evenly, and it has enough adjustment in it to fit both me & my dh.

Gail can't wait to see your new av...hope you get your scanner sorted out (they can be real pains in the butt hey?).

Thought I was going to be in for a difficult night last night. Abbie only catnapped during the day yesterday and got really overtired & was screaming the place down by about 7pm. But then she slept from 8pm to 2.30, and 3.00 to 5.30!

[DellaWellaWoman]

Well it's 5pm and I'm still in my PJ's :o

Brylee slept well last night - went to bed at 9:30 and didn't wake for a feed until 2am, but I couldn't get to sleep!!!

So I guess I'm waaaaaaay over tired and can't wait for hubby to get home from work so he can hold her (she still wants to be held while she sleeps in the afternoons, although the feeding has settled down a bit - no longer doing the constaant cluster feeding, just more regular feeds in the afternoon).

Oh well, I just hope topnight's a better night...especially since we're supposed to be going to the MIL's tomorrow - apparently that's supposed to "give me a break" - not sure how since I'm the only one who can feed her, and feeding her's easier here than at someone else's house (plus I can't wander around ith my boobies hanging out), but anyway, whinge over....

Hope everyone has a good weekend...

[Jenster]

Hey Everyone! :wave:

Found ya! How are we all? Hope you're all getting at least some sleep and coping with the torrent of dirty nappies etc!

Lauren and I are doing well - she's had a few really unsettled days and I finally resorted to the dummy yesterday, which seems to have done the trick. Breastfeeding is going better than I could have expected though - it always takes about 5-10 minutes to attach her, but we get there in the end! (I was told at the hospital that my nipples are a bit flat - how embarrassing!! :o ).

I've been spending most of my days in my PJs too - but I've been assured this in entirely normal!! :D

Hope everyone is doing well and that your little bubs are being little angels!

Love n hugs,

Jen xxx :hugs:

[*butterflykisses*]

hi all just a quick one before i give Milly a feed and go to bed

we had a up and down night last night so i am so tired and tomorrow night is my girls night out so im goin to bed early tonight

Milly is doing well, still sleeping great and is so easy to handle

she has a horrid rash all over her face atm (apparently its heat rash) it looks bad but theres nothing i can do about

im taking her on monday for her ECH check up I wonder how much she has grown now :D

[*butterflykisses*]

oh Cassie hows Logan doing now? wot r u using for him?
i used infacol (sp?) on Milly the other day and it worked great on her ive only used it twice though
i hope he gets rid of his colic Bj had it and it drove me insane

well Milly went to bed early last night she wouldnt take her 8pm feed so last night was all earlier instead of 12,4,7 it was 10:45,2:45 and 5:45am in not used to being up this early

hopefully i get a nap in today as im goin out tonight and im goin to be buggered if i dont

oppps gotta go Milly is wanting my attention

[bronny-jane]

:D morning everyone, i cant believe zoe's still being an angel, she went to be at 9pm and woke up at 4am for a feed this is what she does every night then goes straight back to sleep.....every one said that because of the bad pg i might have a good baby:smiliedance:

im going out for the day and the kids are being babysat from 1:30pm today until tomorrow morning:D im going to try and pace myself, i really dont want to get trashed....and then tomorrow im quitting smoking:eek:

[secondtimearound2]

Kylie sounds like Milly has settled in nicely:yes: I hope you get that nanna nap this afternoon!!

BJ GL with the giving up smoking and how lucky are you with Zoe sleeping so well at night!! Does she sleep well during the day? Are you still BF? How did you go with the mastitus(spelling??)?

Hey Jessica DD is coping O.K with Lachlan. We have kept her rutine the same and have involved her has much as possible looking after Lachlan. It's hard work tho, she can't be trusted to be left alone with him so I'm forever making sure she can't hurt him accidently. I guess things will get easier.

Hey Jen welcome back!! Lauren's the same age as Lachlan. How you going with it all?

Cassie I totally agree with the dummy's they are a quick fix but in the long run can create alot of hard work!! I'm glad the drops have helped with Logan and he is alot happier!!

Lachlan had his 2 week check up yesturday and he has put on 510gm since birth!! They grow so fast!!

Well I hope everyone has a great day!!
Talk Soon
Lee

[busylizzy]

:wave: Hi Guys! I am only just starting to feel back to normal so I haven't been around much. Had massive blood loss during c/s b/c my uterus wouldn't contract so have been very weak. Was given the option of a blood transfusion but decided to try rest & ^ my iron. Also had major breast engorgement which was absolute agony. I swear I could have given Anna Nicole Smith a run for her money. And if milk was water I could have filled all the dams in the country & ended the drought:laughing:! Things have settled down a bit now. Breastfeeding is still a bit painful after 2 & 1/2 weeks but bearable. I can't believe I've lasted this long. I've wanted to quit so many times b/c of the pain but have perservered (sp?) & things are finally getting easier. I've been very lucky to have lots of help with my MIL & mum staying here the last couple of weeks & my sister is coming today. I don't know how I'll survive once everyone leaves:crying:. DS has reverted back to being a baby & mimicking DD's cry when he wants something instead of asking for it & just generally mucking up & trying to get attention. We try & give him lots of attention & +ve re-enforcement as well as including him with the baby but I think it will take time & lots of energy (he has never been an "easy" child). So far Chloe has been an angel. She sleeps & eats well & barely cries but can't wait till she sleeps through the night. She generally feeds every 2 & 1/2 - 3 hrs in the day & 4 hrs at night.
I'll stop :ecomcity: now just thought I'd catch you all up on how we're going.
Hope you're all well. I can't believe some of you are actually getting out & about. I've barely left the house since I got home from the hospital.

[*butterflykisses*]

OMG Liz that is exactly what happened to my with my c/s and they told me its rare wow
how are you goin not having the blood transfusion??
they said i could refuse but i would be very ill for a very long time
do you know how much you lost??
im so glad i have someone who understands what i went through with it and i know what you mean about feeling normal again
im just glad i can now walk and breathe at the same time

BJ_ im so glad Zoe is a good bub
are you BF still ? how is the matitis going?
and wheres the pic ? :p
GL with the quitting smoking

Cassie- hehe silly me
Bj had colic for about 3 months and if i remember rightly his actually came back for awhile after he didnt have it for a few months


Lee-thats a great weight gain

wwo your bubs seem so young now Milly is a whole 5 WEEKS OLD :eek: where does the time go

well Milly is in a bad mood today
she is screaming in her sleep i think she has wind im goin to giver her another hour and give her some infacol poor little bubba
i tryed to give her some EBM from a bottle and she wouldnt take it :fingerscrossed: she takes it from Brian when im out tonight otherwise i will have to come home (lucky im just down the road)

Jen welcome back to us :D hows everything going??

[secondtimearound2]

Liz I'm glad your feeling better Hun, DS will settle down soon for you, I think with family staying and everything in thier little world has been turned upside down they play up a bit!! DD played up whilst we had family staying then when things were back to normal she settled again!! I was told to let them behave like babies again, it's normal for them to do that so don't stress he will be back to normal before you know it!!

Thanks BFK he loves his boobies and I've got enough milk to feed more babies.

[*butterflykisses*]

Thanks BFK he loves his boobies and I've got enough milk to feed more babies.


hehe he sounds like Milly


i was shocked at her weight gain (esp. the cms ) she grew 5 cms in less than 2 weeks :eek:

i cant wait til monday to have her weight and length done again

[secondtimearound2]

hehe he sounds like Milly


i was shocked at her weight gain (esp. the cms ) she grew 5 cms in less than 2 weeks :eek:

i cant wait til monday to have her weight and length done again

Lachlan has grown 2.5cm I thought that was pretty good but 5cm:eek: thats great well done Kylie-Anne:thumbsup:

[*butterflykisses*]

she is long but has no waist or butt so she is still in 0000 outfit (000 for long jumpsuits etc)

the 000 outfits like pants etc fall off her :laughing:

she has huge feet and fingers as well so im guessing she is going to be one tall gal (doesnt get that from me)

[Wondermum]

Morning mummies and bubbies :wave:

How are we all surviving?

Rylan had his first child health check last Thursday (2 weeks old) and he has put on 370gms and has grown 5.5cm in length :eek: Rylan has just outdone your little one's measurements Kylie-anne and he is only 2 weeks. I'm wondering if they got his measurements right at birth? Mainly his length and HC as his head seems to have gotten smaller by 0.5cm - though this could be due to swelling at birth.

Rylan is also smiling :) at us (open mouth) when we are talking to him and tickling his cheeks. In the last week he has started following us with his eye's and is becoming more alert. I had to check this with the health nurse and she asked me if he was late and I said yep, 10 days and she said :yes: his development is like a 3 week old baby now at 2 weeks.

How did your night out go B-J? ... if it were me I'd need another night to myself to recover and get some much needed sleep. Brave woman!!

[busylizzy]

[QUOTE=*butterflykisses*;707656]OMG Liz that is exactly what happened to my with my c/s and they told me its rare wow
how are you goin not having the blood transfusion??
they said i could refuse but i would be very ill for a very long time
do you know how much you lost??
im so glad i have someone who understands what i went through with it and i know what you mean about feeling normal again
im just glad i can now walk and breathe at the same time

I lost about a litre & 1/2 of blood. I'm doing alot better now despite not having the transfusion. Still very tired but ob said it would take about a month to get back to normal (It's been 2 & 1/2 wks). I know what you mean about being glad to be able to walk & breath at the same time. It took me almost a week to be able to do that. I also had pains all through my back that felt like air pockets (or knives) & were apparently a lack of oxygen in my body. My tummy is still bruised inside & out from where they had to try & push everything back inside, aparently they had to be quite forceful. But to tell you the truth my boobs are more painful from breastfeeding than my tummy. I'm trying to wean myself off the panadeine still. How much blood did you lose BFK? I'm glad you're feeling a little better & it does help to know that someone else has been through the same thing, doesn't it?

Well DH & my sis have taken DS out in the boat for the morning so I'm enjoying a little quiet time. Think I'll go bake my nipples in the sun.
Hope you're all having a good w/e & BJ hope you're recovering ok from your big night out. Oh what I would give for a glass of wine...or ten!

[*butterflykisses*]

after my first day off blood loss i had lost 1750grams but i had 3 more huge bleds after that so i lost more overall
i was so scared i had no idea what was going on and i really thought they had cut something they shouldnt have (i had my tubes done as well)
i had 2 units of blood with the transfusion and im so glad i had it now i feel great my levels are still only at 94 but thats great compared to 65

i wasnt allowed out of my bed til day 3 and i ended up with blod clots which took 2 days to come out and also bed sores (even though i was moving in the bed and they changed my sheets every couple of hours)
and OMG doesnt it kill when they push on your stomach i dont think ive ever screamed as loud

i also got a bladder infection which i didnt know i had til the day i went home (they didnt tell me)

but its funny cause i went through all this but yet i had a great physical recovery (strange i know)

what do you have to do now to help get better ???
i have to take the iron and Vitium c tablets and eat iron high foods and no carbs
the dr said i should be 100% by xmas :fingerscrossed:


well i had my night out last night and i loved it
i havnt been out in 6 years so it was so nice to relax
excpet my boobs are huge now and killing me but lucky Milly is feeding heaps and has drunk most of the milk

i better go the boys are fighting like usual

[busylizzy]

OMG BFK, that sounds much worse than what I went thru. I had no idea what was going on at the time & didn't find out until a couple of days later. Silly me had also donated bubs umbilical cord so I had to give about 5 tubes of blood for testing the night after my c/s. Ob just advised I take more iron & get planty of rest - easier said than done! I just had a shower & I am exhausted from that. The only other complication I had was that b/c of my major breast engorgment I had to wear ice packs in my bra for a couple of days & as a result of that & the air con I ended up with a really bad cough. Every time I coughed it felt like my stomach was going to split open & my insides pop out :eek: - so painful! It has only just cleared up so that has probably slowed my recovery too. It's great that you are now out & about, sounds like you had a great time. I also don't know how you are coping with 2 little boys on top of the baby, I am finding it hard enough with one!

[filmgirlgail]

:wave: hi

just a quick question after skimming - am I meant to taking him to appts? his 1st one is with the paed this thurs at 7 weeks. i know he's growing but nobody told me of any weekly checup. 7& hes still gorgeous but no routine

i have 2 solo days starting 2moro as MIL has gone away :eek:

will try a small trip 2 the shops :fingerscrossed:
have 2 go

[filmgirlgail]

Actually, they might have told me in hospital but I can't remember much of that first week detail wise :o IYKWIM

[filmgirlgail]

:hugs: to BFK & Lizzy. don't knowe how you're coping with 3 bfk :hugs:as 2 is hard enough at the moment

[DellaWellaWoman]

filmgirlgail, you can use this link to find your nearest child health clinic - give them a ring and you can make an appointment - on the gold coast it's about a 2 week wait for an appt :eek: http://www.health.qld.gov.au/cchs/locator.asp

the other option if you just want a weigh is check out your local chemists - a lot of them have clinic sisters for half a day a week or something.

I went shopping by myself today!! Had to leave expressed milk for hubby, but I didn't think I'd manage clothes shopping (maternity stuff's too big, pre-pregnancy stuff doesn't fit yet :crying: ) and a pram.

And we went for a walk tonight (after Bathurst of course) - I managed to not pass out, and Brylee slept in the pram the whole way :yelclap:

Hope everyone has a good evening...

[Wondermum]

I signed up about a week ago for a photobucket account and I thought I'd try posting some pics here to see if it works for me...... ;)

Jess 40 weeks pregnant with Rylan
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n153/Jessath/home2006038.jpg

My boys Hayden 3 1/2 yrs and Rylan under 24 hrs old
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n153/Jessath/rylan018.jpg

My bubba Rylan in my avatar
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n153/Jessath/rylan.jpg

Look at my muscles! I'm 2 weeks old now
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n153/Jessath/home2006064.jpg

My little prince sleeping
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n153/Jessath/home2006062.jpg


I'd love to see everyone else's pics..... come on mummies show your beautiful babeh's :yes:

[MrsTwith3]

Hi Ladies Im fianlly on the other side:smiliedance:
What a ride the past 2 days have been. I cant believe its over (well the pregnancy anyway). Im like the majority of you and seriously sleep deprived, I think Ive had about 4 hours all up in the past couple of days.
My little boy is gorgeous in my eyes and everyone just loves him. His big brother has been quite a bit of a handful though, he is either wanting to hold him, kiss him, touch him or trying to get him away from me...ahhh.
I knew it was going to be hard Im just hoping he settles in to having his new brother sooner rather then later. His big sister is a great help though.

Mel

[Wondermum]

Yay.... good to see you over here Mel ;)

:yes: Sleep deprivation is bad for a little while. Hopefully it all gets a little better for you within the next few days or so :fingerscrossed:

New bubs bring lots of excitment to the house... hopefully your DS1 adjusts soon. It's great that you have your DD to help out ;)

Can't wait to read your birth story. Hey, did the caster oil do it's job?

[busylizzy]

His big brother has been quite a bit of a handful though, he is either wanting to hold him, kiss him, touch him or trying to get him away from me...ahhh.
I knew it was going to be hard Im just hoping he settles in to having his new brother sooner rather then later.
Mel

I know exactly how you feel Mel. Don't know how we're going to survive but I guess many people find a way...let me know if you do.
I am incredibly sleep deprived. I think Chloe is going through her 3wk growth spurt. She fed constantly last night & I barely got 3hrs sleep. But of course she is sleeping soundly now. I'm procrastinating about waking her for another feed as my nipples are red raw!

[Teto]

I'd love to see everyone else's pics..... come on mummies show your beautiful babeh's :yes: Here is Ripley! :)
http://whippet.actewagl.net.au/singlet1.jpg
http://whippet.actewagl.net.au/Ripley.jpg
http://whippet.actewagl.net.au/Rip and Rick.jpg (http://whippet.actewagl.net.au/Rip%20and%20Rick.jpg)

I am having a few dramas with the breastfeeding thing. He seems to MUNCH on me and most feeds are painful, despite midwives giving the attachment and my nipple condition the thumbs up. So this is causing me grief. Our first night at home went very well but last night was pretty awful - a 1am feed pretty much lasted until 4am :( and then there was more at 5am and 6.45am. Nooooo!

[ElizaDee]

Spencer's photos are on his website :)

http://www.rubybutterfly.com/myfamily

We are having some troubles all we want to do is suck on my nipples all day long and not sleep! :banghead: If we aren't sucking we are screaming! We are not latching properly all the time either so a LC is coming over this afternoon to help, she is also a midwife and the midwife I had at Spencer's birth so we already know her. :)

[busylizzy]

I've decided to give up breastfeeding! I can't handle the pain any longer & I've got the bottles in the sterilizer as I write. I was trying to make it to the magic one month mark but it is all getting too much. I remeber that it was when I stopped trying to b/f DS that things started to get so much better. I feel a little guilty & also jelous of all the mums that can do it or have made it through the pain but it's just not working. I only hope now that Chloe will accept the bottle as I have been exclusively b/f her.

Cassie - how much formula is Logan taking?

[DellaWellaWoman]

Liz, if Chloe has trouble accepting a formula bottle (hopefully she won't) it might be worth expressing some milk (if you can) to give in a bottle first? and/or try mixing expressed milk with formula so it's not as much of a complete change all at once?

If that doesn't work you could also trycup feeding (http://www.breastfeeding.asn.au/bfinfo/cupfeeding.html) or syringe feeding - it's a bit time consuming but might work until the bottle's accepted.

Good luck!!

[MrsTwith3]

Afternoon ladies
We just got back from our 1st trip out to the shops. Thank goodness I had my DH with me, there is no way I could of handled DS1 and the baby on my own today. My milk is coming in already and Im soo emotional I'll cry at the drop of a hat.
Sorry to hear about you all having trouble breastfeeding. It is not an easy thing to do, I dont know why some people just assume it will happen naturally as its a learned skill. My nipples are really sore with a few blisters on them and I seem to cringe everytime Noah latches on. Im hoping that it settles down in the next day or 2.
Well off to sit and cringe as its feed time again.
Take care all.

Mel

[*butterflykisses*]

HEY EVERYONE

:hugs: Mel im glad its finally over for you (the pregnancy)
im sure you will all be settled in soon as

took Milly to her check up and she now weighs 4.3kgs and has grown half a cm both in lenght and h/c -she is finally starting to slow down LOL

i will post some pics of Milly for you

just born
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/kaspics/100_1574.jpg

2days old
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/kaspics/100_1666.jpg
4 weeks
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http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/kaspics/100_1820.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/kaspics/100_1813.jpg
5weeks
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/kaspics/100_1884.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/kaspics/100_1881.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/kaspics/100_1886.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/kaspics/100_1893.jpg

[Wondermum]

Well my DH had his first day back at work today after 2.5 weeks off with us. Everything seemed to go oakeedokee today. I seemed to be straped to the arm chair from 6:45am to 1:00pm with a few short breaks in between. Rylan was on feeding frenzy all morning.... must be approaching the 3 week growth spurt? He then went down for a nap for 2.5 hrs and Hayden and I got to do some baking.... choc chip cookies :D

Mel - know what you mean with the sore nipples (ouchy) my nipples were grazed in the first 4-5 days of having Rylan. He latched on as soon as he came out and was constantly feeding until my milk came in - it was absolute torture having to feed him. The first day I came home from hospital they got really bad toward the arvo and I ended up sending DH out to the chemist to get some nipple shields.... :confused: didn't know what else to resort to as I didn't experience this with DS. When the midi came for the home visit she told me they weren't any good to use if my milk wasn't fully in yet and told me to get some cream :o anyway they made my nipples feel a bit better in the short term :p

[Wondermum]

Mia and BFK.... lovely pics :thumbsup: beautiful babes. You can really see a change in Milly kylie-anne... they grow so fast! Mia - what was Ripley's birth length?

Keep em coming ladies :)

[filmgirlgail]

LIz :hugs:

I know where you're at. But at the end of the day you need to do what works for you and your baby as if you are unhappy with the feeding, the baby will know that and you will feed off eachother, IYKWIM. I only made it to 3.5 weeks with DS and 2.5 weeks with DD and both times we'd been mixing BF and bottle and the BF just wasn't working, it was taking hours which isn't right and is exhausting for both. Have you tried expressing some, then started with the bottle to satiate the hunger, then going onto the breast? Just an idea.

:fingerscrossed: that it all goes well with the bottle :hugs:

[busylizzy]

Thanks for all you support guys, I can always count on you. Well we tried the bottle for the first time this afternoon & Chloe took to it like a pro:smiliedance:.
Cassie - I'm an old pro @ formula. I was just curious. Only just got DS off formula a couple of months ago when he decided to tip the entire container of formula over his head. He had bad reflux when he was a baby & was on a thickened formula at first.
Also had our first trip to the shops today with the help of my sis & weighed Chloe at the chemist. She weighs 3.47kg - she's put on 450gms in 1 week - no wonder my boobs were so sore!
Big :hugs: to the rest of you with painful breasts. Mine feel like they are about to explode!
BJ - How are you going about drying your milk up? Did you go cold turkey, medication or expressing for a while? I used medication last time but want to try & avoid that this time.

[filmgirlgail]

hi all :wave:

:fingerscrossed: 4 2nite. Alex has spent more time awake today & yesterday than ever b4 so hoping more sleep 2nite,

hope eberyone is well :hugs:

[Wondermum]

:fingerscrossed: for you Gail.

I'm hoping for the same tonight too :yes: Over the last two days Rylan's sleep pattern has changed from sleeping most of the day in between feeding to only having one main sleep in the middle of the day for about 2.5 - 3 hours. We've actually got to see his eye's a lot more.... following us as we move about and smiling at us when we cute talk him :p I just can't wait for that night where he starts sleeping through :D With my first he started to sleep through from 9 weeks... Oh, it was sooo good!

[Teto]

Mia and BFK.... lovely pics :thumbsup: beautiful babes. You can really see a change in Milly kylie-anne... they grow so fast! Mia - what was Ripley's birth length?

Keep em coming ladies :) He was 51cm long and 34cm head circumference. He hardly lost any weight at all in hospital - 100g or so. The nurse asked if we had been comp feeding him! DP reckons he's growing already.

My boobs are still suffering, but I am focusing on a few tips I got from people yesterday and trying to get him to slow down his choppers and take more boob in. He comes at me like a snapping crocodile sometimes lol. He loves the bath.

He is one week old today!

[*butterflykisses*]

i just put Milly to bed hopefully she stays there

she has been up for all but 1 hour today adn screaming and vomiting (i tihnk she has a bit of colic) and infacol isnt helping

her ECN appointment went well she is now 4.3kgs :D
and her rash is just a heat/hormonal rash that will go away in time

anyway im off to have a shower and bed im sooooooooo tired

[Wondermum]

yay... Ripley's one week today :smiliedance:

Mia your DP is probably right about his growth :yes:

oh.... yeah the boobies (ouchi)! :( one of mine still sort of feel like needles are poking through the nipples when I'm feeding :eek: I find laying down in bed to feed at night is much more comfortable. It takes that pulling feeling away and you can relax without the strain on your neck, soulders and arms.

One of the midi's gave me a good technique to help bubs attach with a wider mouth.... for a right breast feed hold the back of their neck (not their head) with your left hand and with your right hand guide your breast towards bubs mouth touching your nipple on their top lip then kick your right hand wrist between their shoulders which in turn pulls their chin and mouth outward to achieve optimum sucking and attachment.

[MrsTwith3]

Hi Ladies
How is everyone going?
The midwife came out this afternoon and did the guthries test on Noah. He was such a good boy and only cried at the end after having his poor little heel squeezed so much.
She asked how everything was going and the only thing I could say was wrong was the state of my poor nipples. She ttok a look and said it looks like he has chewed the ends off (big ouchies I tell you). They dont feel as bad today considering all Noah has done is feed all afternoon.
Well I really should get to bed considering everyone else in the house is asleep, DH included....lol
Night all.

Mel

[secondtimearound2]

Morning Ladies :wave:

We've had a few dramas. Lachlan was great until the 2 week mark. In the last four days he is staying awake throu-out the morning then sleeping 4.5 hours in the afternoon. We had 1 night he was awake from 12am till 4am. I took him to the doctor thinking that he had reflux or colic due to when he was awake he would feed and power :barf: then want another feed :rolleyes: and also seemed to be in pain. Anyway there's nothing wrong with him, his just working out his pattern. We've resorted to the dummy when he is awake for hours and is using me like his personal dummy which has helped with the over filling and spuwing. My DD never had a dummy but you've gotta do what works. Well gotta go get things organised before DD wakes up!!

Have a great day!!

Love Lee

[SammyD]

:wave: Hi everyone

Mel - congratulations on the birth of Noah! Must be a relief to not be pregnant anymore! How long did you stay in hospital? Must've only been a few hours?

BFK Abbie has a hormone rash too...poor little thing (not that it has worried her at all)! It looked awful for a few days but is settling down now. So frustrating that there's nothing you can do for it but wait!

Abbie was 5 weeks old yesterday :eek: . Man that has gone sooo quickly! She's grinning and gurgling at us now, and the night before last she slept from 8pm to 3.30am (7.5hours!). I'm just stunned at how easy going she is - has a short unsettled period in the early evening (usually just as we are having dinner :rolleyes: ) when she is over-tired, but other than that I barely hear from her. Have to take her to the ECHN next week & see how much she has grown!

[missneriss]

Hey everyone.

BIG CONGRATS MEL! What a relief! So glad it finally happened.

I've had hardly any time to log on - Jasper's a bit demanding! I spend a lot of time pushing him around in his pram or driving him around in the car to settle him. Yesterday I drove 70km to Geelong, had a coffee and fed him, then drove back!

Sammy Jasper has been much more awake over the last couple of days as well. It's great to see his eyes following me around (when he's not crying!)

Which brings me to a STUPID new mum question - when he's awake like that, should I be entertaining him (singing, playing etc)? Or will he be ok to just lie there and look around at stuff? After I feed him we usually have a play and then I put him down.

I know you'll all think I'm a moron for asking that, but I haven't had much to do with babies before!! :confused:

[Jenster]

Hey there all you Yummy Mummies & Gorgeous Bubbies!

Well - today is mine and Lauren's first day home alone!! The in-laws have gone home now (god love em, they did so much cooking, shopping etc. for us but step-MIL drove me nuts when it came to Lauren!) and DH has gone back to work today...so far so good though. The only thing I'm really sad about is that our house is quite high up off the street and I have no one around now to help me get out for a walk (still can't lift the pram up and down the steps b/c of c/s). So we'll have to resort to doing laps of the garden to get some fresh air!! :D

B/F is still going ok - using the dummy hasn't really helped attachment issues (AND you are so right Cassie, she wakes and screams when it falls out!), but she's such a sucky baby, I had to do it for the sake of my poor nipples!!! DH went out and got me a breast pump the other day, and have managed to express a couple of bags for the freezer - am hoping that DH can help with the night feed on weekends and give me a break!

Does anyone else's bub absolutely HATE bathtime?! Lauren screams the house down - I thought babies were supposed to find them relaxing?!? We got a bath thermometre, so we know we're drawing it at the right temp so I'm stumped! I'm only doing baths every other night at the moment, I just don't see the point in upsetting her so much, poor little thing.

Tried out the routine for the first time yesterday - based on four hourly feeds. Went reasonably well yesterday, but am sure will be much better today now that the in-laws have gone and she doesn't have to be wheeled out for show and tell before each feed/change (seemed to make her over-tired a lot of the time!).

Anyway, hope you're all doing really well and that your bubs are too. Aren't we lucky that all the September/early October mummies have such gorgeous babies?!?!?!

Nerissa - re: your question, not stupid at all!!! I'm a newbie to all this too and keep consulting a book called "The Baby Book - how to enjoy year one". According to the book and the routine that I'm trying to get Lauren into, once they get to 4 weeks onwards, they should have 15-20 mins playtime at each feed/change session (except bedtime). Before that, if they're very wakeful when they're supposed to be sleeping, it recommends that you don't stimulate them and leave them to settle/fall asleep themselves. But, I'm finding that Lauren is very alert at times when she's supposed to be sleeping and sometimes just wants to be picked up so that she can have a good look around! Not sure if I've helped or just confused matters!! :o

Lee - How funny our bubs were born on the same day!

Take care all and big hugs, :hugs:

Jen xxx

[*butterflykisses*]

well after having the worst day ever with Amelia yesterday she decided that last night she only woke up for one feed at 2am and thats it :D what a little darl

well when Amelia is up alot i play with her and leave her in her gym, swing etc it depends on her mood i basicaly just go with the flow with her babies dont like to be over or under stimulated (that probably doesnt help does it )

Amelia sometimes like her baths but other times doesnt so her baths are very quick i make sure i have everything prepared and lyed out so it all quick and easy just in case we have a screaming match on our hands LOL

Our bubbas are all growing up so fast
Amelia is 6 weeks on friday and i cant beleive it where is my newborn :crying: i even went shopping yesterday and bought her a new outfit silly me bought a size 0000 even though she still fits into 0000 it will only last another week or 2 i felt so silly but im still getting used to the fact she is growing up i think im tryin to hang on more to her because she is my last :(

[DellaWellaWoman]

This thread's starting to pick up now that most of us have had our bubs :)

Brylee's 6 weeks old - how time flies. She's sorted out her body clock now - sleeps well at night (last feed around 10:30-11, sleeps till 2/3am, has a feed, goes back to sleep & wakes at 6/7am for another feed), and the cluster feeding during the day seems to be easing up - I can actually put her into her cot for a sleep during the day, which is something I couldn't do a week ago - in fact, she's up there now!! And my boobies are finally feeling okay during feeding - no pain any more :yelclap:

As far as clothes go, she started in 00000's, has passed through 0000's and is now in 000's, some of which don't see to have much more room in them - gotta hate the variation between brands *sigh*

I'm almost at the stage where I'm thinking I might have to start doing the housework (or at least some of it) again - poor hubby's been doing about 95% of it so far because I've been tied to the feeding chair for the last 6 weeks, but on the other hand....maybe I should just tell him she's still feeding all day every day?? :devil6:

Oh well, I'd better go & fold the washing before it develops creases

Hope everyone has a great day...

[Teto]

yay... Ripley's one week today

Mia your DP is probably right about his growth

oh.... yeah the boobies (ouchi)! :( one of mine still sort of feel like needles are poking through the nipples when I'm feeding :eek: I find laying down in bed to feed at night is much more comfortable. It takes that pulling feeling away and you can relax without the strain on your neck, soulders and arms.

One of the midi's gave me a good technique to help bubs attach with a wider mouth.... for a right breast feed hold the back of their neck (not their head) with your left hand and with your right hand guide your breast towards bubs mouth touching your nipple on their top lip then kick your right hand wrist between their shoulders which in turn pulls their chin and mouth outward to achieve optimum sucking and attachment.
You mean left hand wrist I think (?) Anyway thanks! I'm trying so hard to stop it hurting and hope it settles in soon. I don't think my nipples have any serious damage so :fingerscrossed:

We have had an average day today, the 9.15am feed became an on again off again thing that lasted for 4+ hours, including squawking through our first family trip to the grocery store. Cripes.
But mostly he is pretty good and doesn't seem to have any health issues. Lots of poo and wee coming out, no vomiting, and some 4 hour sleeps. His times for peaceful wakefulness are SO short though, you have to be feeding him pretty fast if he is not asleep.

Oh and my horror story so far is forgetting to clip him into the capsule on the (short) drive home from the shops. Don't tell the authorities ! :eek:

[*butterflykisses*]

Mia i did this to Cameron the other night from shopping didnt realise until he stood up in the back seat :banghead:

[MrsTwith3]

Evening all
We had a huge day out today so Im absolutely buggered. I didnt think it would take that much out of me. Guess I shouldnt think Im superwoman after giving birth only 4 days ago....lol
I must say I have really been blessed with my little man. He is just so contented majority of the time. We had quite an unsettled afternoon and evening yesterday but he fell asleep at 7pm and didnt wake up till 1am. Needless to say I was hanging for him to wake up as I thought my boobs were going to explode. My nipples are still really sore, cracked, grazed etc but we are just breathing through the pain when he latches on. They will get better when they toughen up.
Nerissa thanks for the congrats. Your question wasnt stupid. I find that with new bubs it is very easy to overstimulate them. They will usually give you signs that they have had enough stimulation such as more squirming around, crying/grizzling etc. It doesnt hurt them to be fed and talked to for a little while then wrap them and put them into bed. Hope things get better soon.
Sammy thanks for your congrats too. I am sooo glad that it is over. Im sooo in love with Noah its unbelievable. He was born at 4:03am and we were walking out of the birth centre at 8am. It was an amazing experience I must say.
Jen- Noah doesnt much like bathtime just yet. He likes to be wrapped so having his clothes off is a big shock to him. They do get used to it eventually.
I really need to get my birth story written soon as I am looking forward to sharing my amazing experience with you all. Well time to go and have a rest before the next round of feeding. Take care all.

Mel

[*butterflykisses*]

dont worry Mel Amelia is nearly 6 weeks old and i still havnt written her birthday story LOL its just too long

[Wondermum]

You mean left hand wrist I think (?)

Oops, YES.... it was meant to be LEFT. You get the picture though :yes: Sometimes I do a bit of my typing using one hand while juggling BF and responding to a 3 yr old too, so there may be a few mistakes here and there.

Well, I actually ventured out today by myself with a newborn and a 3.5 yr old. It went better than I expected! I was very surprised. We went to Target and K-Mart. I feed Rylan up before and took a dummy for him just in case and I also gave Hayden a good talking to before we left the house "Mummy wants you to be a good boy when we go out today". Suprise.... it all worked :smiliedance:

Jen - Rylan hated having his clothes off in the first week - bathing included. Now he quite enjoys a nice relaxing bath. BTW how are your cats dealing with the new addition to the household?

BFK - SS to hear your day didn't go to well today. Would be lovely if they could be perfect little angels all the time hey :p At least you got a decent nights sleep last night.

Mel - Good to hear things are going well with your little one. I can relate to your outing today.... my DH dragged me out shopping on day 3 :eek: I was bloody buggered! It took so much effort and was totally draining - we we're only out for about 1.5 hrs.

[ikis84]

Hi Ladies :wave:

I had my little girl, Olivia, on the 3rd of October... as there is no-one in the October thread I thought I would come introduce myself here :D The chat in the pregnancy thread is just going to quickly for me! Hopefully I can keep up with you guys!

My name is Pam, and so far :fingerscrossed: I love being a new mummy. I am handling the sleep deprivation pretty well, and love gazing at my beautiful daughter. I can't believe it has been over a week already! I can imagine already that they grow up very quickly!

Alright, I must go.... Bub is calling for the boob!

[SammyD]

hi pam! the girls in the pregnancy threads can really chat, hey? too much for us poor sleep deprived new mums :D

mel can't wait to hear your birth story - sounds like you had an awesome experience! the four hour stay would've been great - i'm trying to convince dh that we should have a home birth next time...

i don't think that newborns need a lot of entertaining...they just like to be talked to and cuddled, and lying on the floor checking stuff out is good for them too because it's all so new to them - and helps them to work out their bodies. the worst thing for a newborn is to be overstimulated.

abbie is starting to enjoy her baths. at first she screamed the place down (although i found having the bath a little bit hotter than the thermometer recommended helped her to settle), then she was ok except for getting in and out, but now she's pretty content the whole time.

she was extremely unsettled yesterday afternoon! just would not settle down for a sleep, fed constantly and screamed when she wasn't on the boob. i was so over it by the time DH got home from work (thankfully he happily took her off my hands so i could have a shower and calm down). but she ended up settling down and slept from 8.30 to 3am!

[Wondermum]

Hi Pam - congratulations and welcome.

Wow Sammy - what a lovely little sleeper you have. Can't wait for Rylan to do that.

Hi Cassie - I'm with you on the sleep thing. I just keep telling myself... it won't last forever. I just made myself an extra strong coffee as my eye's are feeling really dry/ tired. Is it just you and Logan home?

O.k. I have a question for you all!

Who actually gets to sleep during the day when your bubs is asleep? I don't sleep at all during the day. Even if I didn't have a 3.5 yr old I wouldn't be able to sleep - my mind just doesn't let me for some reason. Sometimes I get to lay down and relax for about an hour as DS1 usually joins me.

[MrsTwith3]

Hi Pam, congratualtions and welcome. Yes the pregnancy thread is moving way to fast for us who try to function on very little sleep. Your little girl is gorgeous by the way.
Cassie you poor thing. Does Logan like to be held all the time? Maybe try wrapping him in muslin nice and snug. Maybe that might help.
Sammy a home birth:eek: . I myself wouldnt be that keen but all the best if thats what you decide for next time. By the way how can you be thinking of next time already???LOL
Jess I dont get a sleep during the day. I know its hard with a toddler at home as well but I have other things that have to get done during the day and sleeping isnt a priority(although sometimes it would be nice).
I find once the kids are in bed at night and I sit down to relax and watch a bit of TV is when I get really tired. Last night I sat down to watch House then made the mistake of lying down and fell fast asleep for just over 2 hours. I did that the night before too...lol. Get some sleep when you can I say.
We have been out and about again today. No rest for the wicked I say. Had a family get together at my auntys for lunch then went to the local shops. I had to buy myself a new maternity bra and a new outfit as I had only 1 thing that fitted me well enough to wear out of the house.
I had bought the T-shirt maternity bras before I had Noah but I wouldnt recommend them as they dont hold you in at all when your lying on your side in bed. Not a good look or feel.
Well its feeding time at the zoo here so I had better get a move on.
Catch you all later.
Mel

[filmgirlgail]

Hi all :wave:

No time for personals, just wanted to say that we had our check up today and from 6lbs 7oz, Alex is now 10lbs at 6.5 weeks!!! And he's grown 8cm - he must do it when I'm not looking as he still looks tiny to me :yes: And he's having little smiling sessions now :D

Still trying to get a routine but he seems to be better at night although we are still up for quite a while. He seems to be in windy pain a lot more this week :gloomy: poot bubba - luckily I still think he's cute when he's crying and the chin starts wobbling!!

Hope all is well with you guys. I'm off to put DD to bath and bed, then off to bed myself as I didn't get my nap today. MIL is almost finished here then I'm not sure how many naps I'll get.

Chat later lovelies

[DellaWellaWoman]

Brylee's finally sleeping more during the day (in her cot, not on me!!!!), but I haven't been able to take advantage & sleep myself so far - hopefully next week while mum & dad are here (that way some housework will get done while I sleep :) ).

She doesn't mind baths, and also seems to have pretty much given up the cluster feeding thing, apart from a couple of hours at night (I don't generally get to bed until 11:30 :eek: ).

I think we're slowly developing a vague routine, so fingers crossed nothing changes!

[fruitjuice]

Phew!! has it only been 3 weeks??? i've never gone out so often!! we get invited to something everyday, plus appointments and uni classes. All i want to do instead is study for exams and cuddle DD.

we have to cosleep - she just won't go down by herself! i often fall asleep with her anyway and only realise when I wake up hours later. anyone else finding this?

I found that i was getting a bit agitated at the night feeds so i got a really good book that i only read during feeds - so now i look forward to them! plus she gets read to, so i kill two birds with one stone!

[ElizaDee]

what a great idea fruitjuice, I have been watching DVD's but that is getting boring as I have seen all our movies several times...

I should get a book out and read that while feeding, will certainly make the feeds go faster as I love to read. :yes: Will try that out tonight. :thumbsup:

[ikis84]

thats a great idea about the book - only problem is thatt dd only takes 15 mins to feed... very fast let down - so every couple of mins she comes off spluttering :o ..

re: sleeping, i make sure i nap or rest for at least one of her day sleeps.

fruitjuice, we end up cosleeping in the morning... it helps her sleep a longer stretch when mummys sleepy!

Cassie, I put dd in a hug a bub when shes fussy during the day... she loves it and i think its nice too :D Poor thing :hugs: it wont last forever!

bubs is sleeping now, i better go do the same!

[kimmariee]

Hi everyone and congrats on the birth of your babies, well i finally thought i'd join the thread, it's been 3 weeks 1 day since Kori's birth.
Everythings going well, He's feeding really well around every 3 to 4 hours.
During the day he is starting to stay awake for longer periods and he loves to look around especially when hes up on my shoulder.
I can't believe how good things are going, i know this is my 4th and it should be easier but with my last baby, he was so fussy aand we had problems feeding, which ended up him having bad reflux and having to go on thickened formula.
My older two boys are handling having a new brother well but my 2 and a half year old is having alittle trouble. Eversince we brought Kori home he has become more demanding and wants me to do everything for him especially when i'm feeding.
Anyway gotta go as can hear Kori now, hope everyone else is doing well

[Valosgirls]

Hi Girls:wave:

Sorry I have been a little awol! DH is on his last week of holidays and we have been out tripping all over the countryside having breakfast by the beach, shopping, doing little kiddie things and having a ball. Im so exhausted by the end of the day though:sleeping:

Harrison is doing really well. Settling into a 3hr feed/wake/sleep routine and only getting me up once at night. He has seen more of Perth city this week than Im sure I ever saw the second week of my life!!

Hey Sammy and Cass - I agree with you about the hot water. Bubs usually screams blue murder at bath time and last night I made the water a lot warmer and he never made a peep - just laid there and kicked his legs. Was so much more relaxing.

I'll be around a lot more once DH goes back to work and the girls back to school - Ive missed you all heaps!

Well - gotta shoot through now - we are off on another outing and then hopefully tomorrow will be a day of rest. I dont think I can keep this pace up much more! LOL:)

[filmgirlgail]

Hi all

Just a quickie about baths - we found the thermometers are too cautious - the good old elbow test never fails!!

Also, just come back from our photo session at Portrait Place and both kids did really well!! I had decided not to be in the piccies due to flabby tummy but the photographer said she could hide it!! So we did solo piccies, kid piccies and one of me with the kids but I was behind the crib which held Alex so all you saw was my head shoulders and arms!! Have to go back in 2 weeks to pick them out but hopefully the 3 hander should be good so will get it for DH desk and for grandparents, godparents for Christmas.

[Tulp]

Ah a Sep 06 moms thread. Have not been on the board for a while. What with little bub and getting used to routine and all.

He is just a joy to have around. Yes we have our sleepless nights but it's getting a little better now. DH has been excellent. I am usually off to bed at about 8:30pm and DH looks after the feeds before he hits the sack at 11pm. Then bub wakes up at 2am and 5am for his feeds. I do the 2 & 5 am feeds. We are getting used to the routine now.

Bub is back to his 3 hourly feeds now. He was on a 2 hour feed the past few days. That drained me.

Had an emergency C-section done after 17 hours of labour so the first few weeks was a little hard for me. But thank goodness mom is here from Singapore. She leaves end of this month after we move to our new place. So many things happening.

Breastfeeding was rather stressful and I had blood infection. Doc reckons it's from my left cracked nipple. Anyway... I am slowly getting the hang of things now. Still a little tired but I have excellent support at home. DH and mom.

Ok feeding time for little bubba.

[AnnaT]

Quick check in while the munchkin is asleep then Im off for a shower if Dh hasnt used up all the hot water.

We've been a bit unsettled the last 2 days, dont know why but last night he slept 5.5 hours which was fantastic! Im hoping its starting to become a trend as 3 out of the last 5 days he's slept 5+hrs at a time.
The breastfeeding is going ok but I constantly feel like I dont have enough for him and thats why he is always wanting booby. After last nights marathon sleep my boobs were HUGE so he's pretty content today but I cant go denying him feeds just so there is enough for the next one and him to be full :banghead: Ive considered complimentary feeding with formula but the reactions Ive got from people Ive asked have been awful so I guess I'll just slug it out a bit longer.
We have finally got the confirmation from the Army that we are def moving to Albury in a few weeks time so Dh can start his new course. So Im going to be a NUTCASE and apologise in advance if I go MIA. Apart from the fact that our dog just had pups and we have to palm them off on inlaws until she's weaned them and can fly over, I have to get the Army to organise removal, clean and semi-pack the house, organise what I need for bub, tie up all the loose ends here and Dh gets to leave early and miss out on helping me *sigh*

Oh GAIL - how much are your piccies costing you from Portrait Place? I have a voucher for a free sitting and 1 portrait but Im curious as to whether they are reasonably priced for buying other piccies?

[ElizaDee]

Hiya ladies, sorry I have been mia as well. Spencer and I are starting to get the hang of each other. He is moving into his cot tonight! He is getting to long for the bassinet now, but he is still a little bit sooky, so we moved the cot into our room so he can still sleep next to me. But gee the room is getting crowded! :yes:

We never sleep more than 4hrs at a time, and are still mostly doing 3hrs. :( I wish my bubba would sleep more especially at night!

I don't get much of a break and my boobies are quite sore from all the sucking. But we are getting there.

I agree with you ladies that said it, Spencer likes his bath hotter too, and I use the elbow method it does work better. Are you ladies using any soap? They told me at hospital you don't need to just yet. Also how often are you bathing bubba?

Here's to hoping that tonight is a good one in our cot! :fingerscrossed:

[bronny-jane]

eliza you must be tired.....zoe only wakes once during the night, and this morning it was an hour before i usually get up anyway:smiliedance:

we have another baby....dh bought home a cockatiel that hatched the same day zoe was born....guess who's stuck with feeding it:rolleyes:

[SammyD]

Wow Sammy - what a lovely little sleeper you have. Can't wait for Rylan to do that.

be careful what you wish for - it might just come true! i've just discovered two huge problems with a 5 week old breastfed baby that sleeps for 7 hours! first - engorged boobs and mastitis - they have been so very tender from engorgement, and last night i thought i was getting full-blown mastitis, achey and feverish, but thankfully ok this morning. second - because she is a poo machine she woke up this morning with a nasty nappy rash :( . i'm using sudocrem on it which was helpful a few weeks ago when she got a little red, and leaving her nappy off as much as possible during the day, but if anyone has any tried & true remedies i'd love to hear them!

cassie must be so hard for you with logan waking so often. all i can say is hang in there chook, it doesn't last forever.

fruitjuice i often bring abbie into our bed about 5.30am - she tends to sleep very lightly around that time and is really noisy! but quieter in our bed.

rik great to hear from you! harrison is gorgeous! glad you're having fun hanging out with your man.

eliza i bath abbie every night (part of her night-time routine, which will become more important as she gets older) and generally use johnsons bedtime bath liquid, which doesn't really foam up but smells nice. i soap up her hair (she has lots!) with baby shampoo.

[AnnaT]

Eliza - I use special baby body wash thats soap and chemical free etc etc (Gaia baby is the brand) because Jett does some super poo's that gets into odd places and I worry about germs.......... I only use a tiny amount as it lathers quite nicely. He was also peeling something fierce until I stopped using Huggies and Johnsons washes and started the organic one.

Jett doesnt really have baths now anyway, he loves showering with me or Dh :thumbsup:

[Wondermum]

Oh Sammy - I hope you don't have mastitis :fingerscrossed: I remember the engorged feeling with DS1 when he started sleeping through at 9 weeks - it feels like the skin around your breasts is about to split :eek: I just use to express a little and then go back to sleep.

B-J lovely pic of Zoe.... about time we got to see her! You are so lucky to have a newborn that sleeps like that.... what's your secret??? You slipping something in that bottle :detective:

Eliza - don't worry too much hun... I'm sure Spencer will be sleeping longer for you very soon. 3 hrs stints aren't too bad.

Anna - good to hear your little dude is letting you get some much needed sleep. With the BF and your feelings of thinking you don't have enough... it is extremely common to feel this way, a lot of BF mum's do. It's because we can't see by measure what is actually going into their mouths. It is also very common for them to be feeding very frequently in the early weeks.... keep in mind by them doing this they are building up your supply to cater for their needs. They will also feed more regularly when they are heading into a growth spurt too. Also, they tend to feed more when the weather is hotter - quenching their thirst. With the comp feeding - honestly it is your choice and you should not feel bad if you decide to offer a comp feed to your bubby. I comp feed DS1 every now and then and I have also comp fed Rylan on a few occasions where my nipples were extremely sore and I needed to get a bit of extra :sleeping:

[AnnaT]

Wondermum - how much formula do you give the boys and have you had any issues with BF/Bottle feeding confusion??? Im not planning on comp feeding regularly just at the times when I am super tired and cannot function enough to be of any use or if i absolutely have to leave him over feed time.

[Wondermum]

Wondermum - how much formula do you give the boys and have you had any issues with BF/Bottle feeding confusion??? Im not planning on comp feeding regularly just at the times when I am super tired and cannot function enough to be of any use or if i absolutely have to leave him over feed time.


Anna - I usually offer Rylan a top up bottle after I have BF him, offering both sides and only when he doesn't settle (late night) one of the last feeds before I hit the sack. I just do up a 50ml bottle and he takes whatever he wants from that. Sometimes he will scoff the lot and other times he will only have a bit. I haven't come into any major problems with the comp feeds other than sometimes when I put the bottle in Rylan's mouth he will pull a face like he knows it isn't the real deal (booby).... but once he gets to taste a bit more he will happily start sucking away :) It hasn't caused any issues with BF as I still BF at frequent regular intervals as usual.

[AnnaT]

Thats a relief to hear Jessica, its been my main concern the confusion with bottle and breast, I would still like to keep breastfeeding. He has already had a bottle a couple of times, once in hospital about 6hrs after he was born (with formula) because he wasnt sucking and then once with EBM and a few times with boiled water for his wind. Havent had any nipple confusion so I dont think giving him formula occasionally will kill the need for BF. Thanks for the info :) Is there any particular brand formula you'd recommend??

[*Kimmy*]

Hi guys! :wave:
It's the first time I've posted here - it's been a busy 4 days since we got home!
Routine is no longer a part of my vocab!
I must say though I couldn't have asked for a better baby - Alexander is very content, and sleeps from feed to feed. The only thing he's not overly keen on is having his nappy changed - he's modest like his dad!!
I'm breastfeeding him, and have done the occassional top-up as that was what I was doing in the hospital as per the advise from the Doctors to boost his blood sguar, after he was born with low blood sugar levels... I'm loving the breastfeeding I must say, and have been extremely lucky so far to have no problems with nipple pain. I had a few problems on Wednesday where I thought he was showing signs of lactose intolerance (I saw my nephew go through it), as he seemed to cry the minute the milk hit his belly, and was doing some really interesting poo's! He was also quite unsettled in between feeds which was unlike him. But a visit from a midwife helped - she suggested expressing and discarding the first 'letdown' of milk which is apparently full of lactose, and then feeding him the rest which is full of the fat stores. This worked a treat, although has been rather inconvenient to pump away that first 10mls or so, and then put him to the breast, as he screams in the mean time wanting his feed! I am going to try and introduce him back to a normal feed soon and see how he goes.

Other than that, he is a little gem. So happy, and the apple of his dad's eye! And his mum's for that matter!

I am going to go back and try and catch up on some of the posts I've missed now....could be a while....!!!!

Hope everyone is well and all the bubba's are healthy and thriving.

xxxx

[*butterflykisses*]

hey everyone

wow so many posts its hard for me to ctach up atm im just so tired

Well Milly is in bed fast asleep even in this heat

has anyone had there 6 week check up yet??
milly is 6 weeks today and i need to have mine but i cant remember what they do can anyone let me know

well Milly is a little angel i couldnt ask for a better kid
she only wakes for one feed at night now (4am) she is whinging from about 5-8 pm but then she goes straight to bed
we tryed giving her a dummy today when she was whingy but no go she hates them (and im so glad so does LOL)

well its my bday tomorrow :D
not that im doing anything special all i have requested is a nice big fat cake LOL

well i better get some shut eye this heat had really taken it out of me right now and im so buggered

BJ> Zoe is adorable :yelclap:

[bronny-jane]

:D how cute are all our babies, when i look at the avatars i start getting really clucky..:laughing:

OMG zoe decided that she wanted to play at 2am...no what is she doing she was sleeping so well.... i admit i was so p!ssed off though, im so tired i need as much sleep as i can get:D

dh still hasnt fed her at night:rolleyes: so i am running the house on my own, cooking meals, washing clothes and kids, tidying the house, and feeding the baby bird....i get so snappy, and still he just sits on the computer and drinks beer....FFS...give me a hand instead of complaining about cr@p that i dont want to hear.........

oh well i have next saturday night off......im going to try to get into the finals of the karaoke comp......ahhh drinking and singing, what a country

[Wondermum]

Is there any particular brand formula you'd recommend??

Anna - I use Karicare :) I used it with my first and he thrived well and had no problems, so I am sticking with the same brand with this bub. S26 is also another good formula too. You already may know this but I'll just mention it anyway because I didn't do this with my first bubby... when you measure the formula scoop don't pack it in against the side of the tin (I did this with my first bub). Either level it off with a knife or use the lip near the top of the tin to brush the excess formula off and put your water in the bottle before you put the formula in. If you pack too much formula in your scoop or don't put enough water in bubs may get constipated and also put on extra weight. Breast milk is much easier for their little tummies to digest, therefore they tend to poo more frequently, so you may find if you introduce a top up every now and then they may not be as regular as they were. If you want to you could ask your CHN - regarding the best formula for your little dude too :)

[AnnaT]

Thanks for the tip Jessica :)

BJ - can I come to Karioke with you???? I can sympathise on the hubby front, mine is exactly like yours, his world revolves around computer and beer right now. Dont know why he decided to take time off. Oh yeah right to "help" me. What go insane????

[*butterflykisses*]

when i bottle fed the boys i always used S26gold

well im having a not so relaxing birthday at home
its hot and the kids are going insane because i wont let them outside
Bj is crying right now he wants winter pjs on :banghead:
i hope brian brings a nice big fat chocolate cake home for me :D

[busylizzy]

Wow Mel how on earth do you do so much! I might not sleep, but im too lazy to do anything else even if I did have the time lol. As for wrapping him up... he hates being wrapped tighly, if he cant put his hands above his head and kick his legs out full length he screams lol. The nurses were shocked at how he kicked everything off when he was in the hospital... now they know how my ribs felt and why I wanted to be induced early :laughing:

I know exactly what you mean Cass. Ben hated being swaddled too, & would manage to wriggle free no matter what. Watch out, Ben was also very active in my belly & hasn't stopped since, he is now an incredibly spirited toddler.:laughing:

[*butterflykisses*]

thanks Cassie
the boys are still insane atm LOL
i think its hard this year because im fighting with my mum (long story but she doesnt respect what i want for my kids) so this is the first year im alone (besides the kids) and no one in my family has bothered to say happy bday not even my dad

oh well tomorrow is another day

[busylizzy]

when i look at the avatars i start getting really clucky..:laughing:



BJ - are you insane?! Silly question:rolleyes:. DH is thinking about getting a vasectomy. I love being a mum but the whole birth & breastfeeding thing just does not agree with me! I haven't been around in a few days b/c I have been in complete & utter agony. I developed engorgement & blocked milk ducts all the way round both nipples & mastitis on top of that! I am now on anti-biotics for the mastitis & medication to stop my milk production & things are slowly getting better & more bearable.

Anna - I use Karicare Gold for Chloe. Although she does get a bit windy, but apparently it takes about 2wks for them to get used to it & things should settle down (only been on formula for 6 days). She has also been alot more alert since we started on formula & I think it has to do with my low iron levels.

EM2B - Chloe hates getting her nappy changed too. It's the only time she really cries & she screams the house down - she's very modest.

[SammyD]

happybirthday kylie-anne!

And congratulations Kim! At least your 'morning' sickness should ease up now! :D

BJ - just when they thought it was safe to go back to the karaoke bar - you're non-pregnant and on the loose again! Hope you have fun!

Liz sorry to hear about your sore boobs. I had this problem when I weaned my DD1 at 3 weeks and it is just so painful.

[busylizzy]

happybirthday Kylie-Anne!!! Sorry I meant to write it earlier but got torn away from the computer!

[busylizzy]

Thanks Cassie & Sammy. Still in pain but no longer considering chopping my breasts off. Will be nice though when I can hold Chloe over my shoulder again & give Ben lots of proper hugs.

[MrsTwith3]

Hi everyone
A big happybirthday to you Kylie-Anne. I hope your DH bought you home the big cake you wanted.
Liz sorry to hear about the mastitis. It isnt a nice thing to have I must say. I had it when I stopped bf my DD.
Cassie glad to hear Logan has started to settle for you.
Sammy how are things going?
Bj you lucky thing with going out for the night. Shame your DH is being a selfish git.
Well Im absolutely exhausted today. We have been out and about just about everyday. I should really be taking the time to have a rest during the day....lol yeah right. Noah has been unsettled today for the first time. He usually will be fed and burped and is happy to just lie in his bed and put himself off to sleep. He is a week old already today. I cant believe how quick the week has gone.
I posted my birth story last night if anyone is interested in a long read. Sorry I dont know how to post a link to it but its in the birth story thread.
Hope everyone is doing well and there bubbas are behaving themselves.

Mel

[bronny-jane]

Thanks Cassie & Sammy. Still in pain but no longer considering chopping my breasts off. Will be nice though when I can hold Chloe over my shoulder again & give Ben lots of proper hugs.

it takes only a few days and you'll be right, i hated mastitis:mad:
i feel normal now...although i had forgotten how small my breasts really are:D

zoe's starting to get demanding now......no longer feeling clucky:rolleyes:

dh is going away for work for a week.........perhaps i should get a job so i can have a rest too........im on the go all the time, even when i sit down im thinking about what i have to do next......still i guess im surviving it though, must have more determination and patience then i thought;)

[filmgirlgail]

HI all

Just done a skim. Hope all is OK with everyone besides sleep deprivation, madness, insomnia, etc :D

happybirthday BFK and I hope your boys settle down a bit for you.

Been out the last two nights so was shattered as Alex is still up in the night but it's more to do with wind than feed so once that sorts itself :fingerscrossed: he should sleep thru the night. Like someone else typed, once we've done the 3ish feed, I bring him into bed with me and we doze on and off as he gets a windy tummy and once I rub it he dozes off again.

My DD has always been a good entertainer. Very happy to entertain herself which was great when she decided not to have naps anymore for a while she still went to her room and played until I came and got her!!:smiliedance:

Yes mastitis kills - I was lucky and mine cleared up with anti-b. Hugs to everyone who has it.

[ElizaDee]

OK ladies how do you get your babies to sleep? I can get Spencer to sleep on my shoulder and as soon as I put him in his cot he is awake again! So basically he will only sleep when on me or in my arms, this makes sleep at night difficult (I do co-sleep but this isn't helping, he wakes every hour on the hour and asks for boobie)

And what is this self settling? Spencer can't be put into his cot until he completely asleep and doesn't realise you have done it.

At the moment I think he has had about 7hrs sleep in two days, and I have had even less.........:banghead:

What am I doing wrong? Should you hold them everytime they cry?

What is everyones bubba's doing?

[SammyD]

OK ladies how do you get your babies to sleep?

Abbie will generally drift off to sleep in her bassinette provided that she has just been changed and had a feed - and often I rock her bassinette if she needs any more help. But I don't think there's much point in leaving a new baby to cry - a gentle whinge is one thing, but if she starts to really cry I pick her up, settle her, and then try again. Sometimes I need to give her a top-up feed before she will go down. I think it's a good idea to try to get them to go to sleep in their own bed if you can - but that's just not always possible.

I'm a real stickler for making daytime and nighttime sleeps different. Our bassinette is on wheels so I keep it in the family room (light and noisy) during the day, but in our room (dark and quiet) at night. I also only wrap her at night. I think this has helped her to sleep longer at night (8 hours straight last night :) ) . During the day she will only sleep for around an hour or two at a time, with long wakeful periods between - which can be a bit draining, and she does get really cranky by the afternoon, but I'll accept all that if she's sleeping so well at night. When it's time for her to move into her cot I plan to keep her day sleeps in the bassinette for a few weeks until she's used to her cot at night.

Eliza that's my theory, works for me, may not work for you! But I hope you can find something that will give you some more sleep, poor thing.

[filmgirlgail]

Hi Eliza

I agree with Sammy, at this age if they are really crying then there is a reason for it. Like Sammy, if Alex is just whimpering, I let him do that for a minute or two and sometimes he just settles back by himself, but, today for instance, he's been screaming and going almost breathless so I pick him up ASAP. You're not going to spoil them at this age as crying is their only means of communication and it means something is wrong. Usually the top four - hunger, tired, wet/dirty, wind. Sometimes it might even be boredom.

A tip for putting them into hte cot once they're asleep on you, is to put them down, then keep your hand on their tummy for a minute and gently take it away. That way you're not taking away all their warmth in one go. I find it worked for Jessica. Haven't really had to use it for Alex as, up until this week, all he did was sleep and eat.

Anybody got any advice for wind? I've tried Infacol which did nothing and am now trying Marina Infant Mixture. The chemist did mention that their digestive systems are still maturing for the first 8 weeks (longer if premmie) so hopefully it should sort itself out. But today he was screaming and Jess started crying over nothing and I shouted at her :( . I apologised a minute later but that's where his screaming today has got me :crying: . I'll take any advice that's given at the moment.

[busylizzy]

Gail - I read in another thread to try a teaspoon of cooled black tea for wind. I'm yet to test the theory but let me know if you do. Hopefully it will ease up by 8wks, I've got my fingers crossed too.

[AnnaT]

Well I started giving bub a top up after every BF with formula but he's been feeding off both boobs, still crying and wanting to feed so then taking 60-100ml of formula :eek: What a piglet lol He seems much more content on formula but Im not going to stop BF just yet. If I can keep doing both I'll be happy. My supply is still crappy though, the only time it was anywhere near decent was after a 8hr period between BF's *sigh* I feel like such a bad mummy for comp feeding :gloomy:

[busylizzy]

Anna - sounds like he's going through his 3wk growth spurt. You are not a bad mummy, your breasts just need time to catch up.

[Wondermum]

Kylie-Anne happybirthday for yesterday!! Hope you enjoyed something special on the day.

Eliza - all babies are different. Some require being close to mum at all times while others are easily pleased. You just need to try a few things and see what works best for you and your baby. As others have suggested, try placing him down in his bassinet with your hand on his chest. Another good settling method which I do and only just realized today on Dr. Phil why babies calm to this method is.... Shhh, Shhh with a bit of gentle rocking or patting. The (Shhh, Shhh) sounds a lot like the blood flow through the babies umbilical cord in the womb :) .... interesting!

Gail - sorry haven't got any wind remedies. I have noticed Rylan is getting some nasty wind pains too. He often gets really cranky while in the middle of a BF and starts pulling on and off crying and wriggling about - I know he has plenty of milk left in the breast as his mouth is full of it and it's squirting him in the face when he pulls off :D

That reminds me.... I expressed some milk today 100mls as we were out driving around today while Rylan was having a good old :sleeping: so I'll be using that during the night for a quick and easy feed.

Anna - You are not a bad mummy for comp feeding at all. You are a wonderful mummy who is taking good care of her baby! It's not as if you're offering bubs a bottle of poison! You're doing what works best for you both.

[secondtimearound2]

Hi all :wave:

Happy B'day for yesturday BFK, I hope you got that rich choc cake!!

Lara I put Lachlan to bed awake. We do the feed, play, sleep routine. When he shows signs of being tired I wrap him and give him a cuddle then put him down. If he starts to get worked up I pick him up settle him then put him back down awake.
Ben and I took in turns last night and it took 8 times attending him but he ended up sleeping 5 hours:smiliedance: . He has been great tonight, I didn't have to go in to him at all. I think the hard work is paying off now!!
There is a great book called "baby love" by Robin Baker and she gives you the pros and cons to all the different settling methods. I used it like a bible with my first!! I highly recommend it!!

Anyway Ladies I hope you are all well and your all enjoying your precious little Bubbas.

Love Lee

[*butterflykisses*]

just a quickie im buggered

thanks for your bday wishes i actually got my cake today because we got to the cake shop to late LOL

Cassie im so glad logan is starting to behave i hope you get some rest soon

Amelia is like an angel atm :D
she is going to bed around8-9pm and waking for her next feed at 4-5 am and today she slept from 5am til 9am (usually she wakes at 7am no amtter what time he rlast feed was)
i put my foot down yesterday and decided she needed to sleep in her cot durin the day as well as night and today she had 3 naps the first one was 1hour long the second was 2 hours long and the third was 4 hours long (i think she thought it was night being so dark)
so changing her curtains to thicker ones has made a huge difference with her
im worried when she has her next growth spurt this will change though

oh god i said i quickie and look at my post :p

anywyai better go to bed got to get the boys to daycare tomorrow so me and milly can have a nice big long sleep tomorrow and rest (boys have been pains all weekend) thank god for mondays :laughing:

catch all tomorrow

[filmgirlgail]

just a 1 handed quickie. After Alex screaming from wind all day, he had a feed at 8:30, went to sleep at 10:00 and has slept with me until 3:15!!!:smiliedance: just had a quick feed and has dozecd off.

Anna - liz is probably right - sounds like a growth spurt. just remember that you're doing really well and that a top up is just that. you're doing better than i managed with the breast but the b ottle is working for us - whatever works for you is best :hugs:

[busylizzy]

:smiliedance: Gail & Cassie - glad things are getting better for you. It does get easier as you get to know your baby.
BFK - Amelia sounds like an absolute dream child & you deserve it after all you've been through.

[ikis84]

Anna - Just what everyone else has said - you are not a bad mum for giving a bottle - be it for a top up or fully ff. I forgot who said it, but it is probably a growth spurt - your breasts will catch up if they get enough stimulation.

I think I have the most spewy baby... it is so gross, everything smells like vomit! (okay, it's only breast milk vomit, so not THAT stinky, but still!) I just finished my shower this morning (cleaning off all the vomit from last night) and then fed DD... as I was burping her there was no vomit, just as I thought it was safe to move the burping cloth, what do you know, she projectile vomited all over me :o Fun times!

I am almost jelouse hearing about all the bubbas who sleep for long stretches... DD feeds mostly 2 hourly... the longest stretch has been 5 hours between feeds... that happened once! I find that as long as I get a nap in the day then I don't feel too insane... I don't know how you do it Cassie :hugs:

Sleepy baby vibes to all who want them :p - Pam

[ikis84]

Just a quick question... when did you start to give tummy time, or time laying under an activity gym thing... I don't want to overstimulate her, but don't know when to start :confused:

[DellaWellaWoman]

One handed typing so I apologise in advance for any typo's I miss...

So sorry to hear some of you are having dramas with sleep (or lack of sleep), wind, etc :hugs: to you all.

Brylee's 7 weeks old today and seems to be settling down now - last feed and into her cot between 11 and 12, and a big sleep until a feed at about 5 (I had to express this morning 'cs she slept till 5:45, I thought boobies were going to explode :eek: ) then back to bed until about 8. She then gets up and eats/snoozes/plays through the day, with a couple of sleeps in her cot.

I've realised she's feeding more often 'cos the weather's warming up too!

She's starting to get more mobile now too - I don't think it'll be too long before she's rolling - she's already wriggling out of her wrap at night on a semi-regular basis, and is liking tummy time now she can lift her head up.

Hope everyone gets some sleep soon!!

[SammyD]

Anna don't ever feel bad about comp feeds. I know it is easy to do when you believe strongly in breastfeeding - formula seems like such a compromise - but if the alternative is a hungry baby - then you're doing the only sane thing! And while she's still getting some breastmilk she's still getting all the benefits!

[Teto]

HULLO ALL!

Just a quick one as I'm tired and I think :fingerscrossed: baby is finally asleep (took 3 goes) so I should nap too.
It's so encouraging to read everyone's stories here, it makes me realise that we are all having various issues and are not alone! We have ups and downs. He is often hard to settle - doesn't really tolerate much awake time really - he has to be sleeping or feeding? Jealous of you mummies with babies that will sit and "play"!

But he does sleep decently once he goes down - 3-5 hours sometimes. Last night's feeds were 11.30pm, 3.30am and 6.30am as an example. One night (after a horror 4 hour session) he slept from 10.30pm to 4.30am.

Still exclusively breasfeeding and finding it sore, but hoping we can nail it. I have signed up for some ABA/community health type day visits and meetings for additional checks and support. Am planning to try and express enough for a feed for DP, and have sterilised things but nervous about going for it, and when?

[filmgirlgail]

Hi Mia

I wouldn't worry about playtime just yet. When he's more awake and alert during the day, then that's the time to start it. Also just walking around the house or garden with him so he can see things - that quiets Alex sometimes. Good luck with the BF :fingerscrossed:

[Wondermum]

Just a quick question... when did you start to give tummy time, or time laying under an activity gym thing... I don't want to overstimulate her, but don't know when to start :confused:

Hi Pam,

It was mentioned in hospital and also when I had my first CHN visit to give baby a little bit of tummy time when you're dressing them - if you have some buttons to do up at the back just turn them over do the buttons up and let them have a few minutes on their tummy. Also during the day you can spend some time together on your bed - pop them on their tummy and talk to them - they will often lift their head up to hear and see where you are.

With the play gym - when bubs is calm and awake (not tired) you can pop them under a play gym any time/ age. DH put Rylan's one together yesterday afternoon. He is 3 weeks old and he loved it! His little legs were moving up and down and he was getting all excited (breathing fastly) giving little grins while looking at the musical toys moving around above his head. You will know when they have had enough - usually doesn't take long before they need to be picked up for a cuddle, feed, change of nappy or sleep again ;)

[bronny-jane]

zoe loves tummy time too, although she wants to sleep on her stomach:eek: ...so i let her during the day if she falls asleep while on her tummy:D

ok brag feast.........last night zoe slept from 9pm until 4:50 am this morning:smiliedance: ....i wake up at 5 anyway....
she did wake during the night and made some little noises, but i decided i'd only get her if she started to cry.....thank god she slept:D

[Wondermum]

You are soooo lucky with Zoe's sleep patterns B-J! How much of a bottle does she take before she sleeps? You must be feeling great - almost no different to how you were feeling before you had her!

It's funny. Rylan is a great sleeper at night although he wakes either 2.5 - 3.5 hours. He will just feed and fall asleep straight away. I don't have to settle him at all - I'm just loving that :D I know when it's feeding time for him.... he doesn't cry/ scream he just has a little whine/ moan and moves his head side to side with his mouth wide open in his bassinet searching for boob - cause before he fell asleep last time booby was in his mouth :p I just get him straight away and feed him/ change him and he's :sleeping: again.

[*Kimmy*]

I've been giving Alexander kick time on a playmat for the past 2 days and he LOVES it!! Doesn't want to stay there for too long, but even a few minutes makes him happy! He also likes his vibrating chair! :yes:

All these stories of routine are making me wonder what stage your bubbas began them?? Alex is 11 days old, and feeds and sleeps really well, but doesn't really have much of a routine. Sometimes he's a bit unsettled after a feed, othertimes he goes right to sleep... I assume this is normal for this stage??? :confused:

Anna I was doing top up formula feeds few days as well, and felt guilty, and then came to the realisation that we have to do whatever works, and whatever settles bubs! You're doing a great job to persevere with the BF, but if it doesn't work out - FF bubs are just as healthy!

Ok - slight over-reaction moment here....The other night I went to bed about midnight and Alex was in his dads arms sleeping peacefully, so I told DH to bring him up and put him in his bassinett when he came to bed. I then woke next at 6am in a panic as Alex was nowhere to be seen. I came down to the lounge and DH was still lying on the couch with him - he'd stayed up all night with him, giving him the EBM I had in the fridge at the 2 feeds during that time. DH had decided I needed to sleep as was looking a bit like a zombie. Well I completely flipped out and cried hysterically for 2 hours because I had slept without waking to check my son, and hadn't even realised he wasn't with me. I also hated the fact that I'd missed 2 feeds! I told DH I'd never forgive him (yes - minor exaggeration!), and was out of sorts for a day after that! Poor DH - he was only trying to help out, but he is now VERY aware never to take matters into his own hands again, without running it by me first!! I would rather not sleep for a year than have that feeling of waking up without him again!!!:o

Quick question, to the mums who exclusively BF, how long does your bub feed for??ATM, Alex takes anything from 45 mins to 1 hr to feed. Makes for very little time in between when he feeds 3 hourly from the start of each feed!

Hope everyone's well!
xxxx

[Wondermum]

Aww Kim.... what a lovely thing your DH did for you! I'd love it if my DH thought of something like that without me having to persuade him IYKWIM. I can understand how you may have felt in the morning :hugs: but you were obviously in need of a good nights sleep to be out like a light until 6am, hey. I remember when my first DS slept through the night at 9 weeks I woke up in a panic through the night just to check on him cause I was so use to getting up to him all of the time :o

With you're BF question.... Rylan feeds can vary in time from 20 mins to 40mins atm. I have noticed I now have a faster 'let down' and especially now that I have been expressing with a breast pump. You are only at day 11 so your mechanical side (breasts) are still developing as your babies needs develop. Feeds will get shorter over time. Also, it's good that your baby is feeding for so long as it means he is getting the GOOD FATTY MILK (hind milk) which they have to work a lot harder for :D

BTW who are the mummies who have got a routine with a newborn??? Babies routines change all the time! I don't have a routine, I just go with the flow and do things that work best for me and bubs.

[ikis84]

Kim... I can understand you flipping out a little, but I think that was a lovely thing for your DH to do... He probably knew that if he ran it by you you would say no, but he knew you needed sleep iykwim. I exclusivly bf, atm feeds take about 10mins - 30 mins (but I have a fast let down, poor thing comes off spluttering sometimes)... although today she has had a few 40 minute feeds.

I am with you wondermum, I just go with the flow, otherwise I think I would go a little loopy :o

Thanks for all the replys regarding tummy time/ activity gyms. Bub was awake contently for about 2 hours today, I probably should have done it then!

Bub is 2 weeks old tomorrow :eek: Gosh, it has flown by! DH goes back to work tomorrow also. I am a little nervous - I don't know why - I think it's cause I will be a little lonely. I think I have gotten used to having him around! Did anyone else feel the same?

[MrsTwith3]

Hi ladies:wave:

Kim I wish my nipples werent so sore so I could express a bottle for my DH to get up to Noah for atleast 1 feed during the night. Last night he was awake every 2 hours for a feed. He is having a growth spurt ATM and in the evening feeds constantly but gets cranky cause the flow isnt as fast as he is draining so much. Dont feel like you over reacted Im sure we have all been there before. I know I have:yes:

BJ you lucky thing. Im happy if Noah gives me longer then 3-4hours at the moment.

Pam with the tummy time for bubs my midi said to do it from birth for up to 20minutes a day to not just strengthen there neck but there spines as well. You can tell when they are getting tired and had enough of "play time" as there movements become alot more jerkier and they clench there fists and start to whinge/cry.

Gail how are you going?

Jess you are always giving out such wonderful advice/tips for the first time mummies. Its great!

Mia I hear you on the sore front. My nipples are just so sore and raw that I sometimes cringe for a good 20secs till the pain eases after Noah has latched on. I thought that I musnt of had him attached properly but the midi has checked it out and says its perfect and my nipples just need to toughen up and get used to it again.

Debbie,Cassie and Sammy- you all sound like you are doing well. Take care and I hope you are getting a bit more sleep now.

Well I had my first day today with just me and the 2 little ones as DH went back to work:crying: and DD went back to school. We had an appt to get Noah hips checked by the physio (they are perfect) and an appt with the my midi to weigh him and have a quick check. He is 150gms above his birth weight already at 9 days old. He is such a little piggy.
Both of the boys behaved themselves really well. I dont know why I was in such a panic about taking them out on my own....lol
Well best be going and cooking some dinner.

Mel

P.S. Riki where are you? I thought you were going to be back today to catch up with us all. We miss you.